May 7, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 3 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington chat with Albert Breer on his take of the Mike Vrabel situation and even the upcoming deal with NFL officials. Plus, the guys preview the upcoming NBA Playoff games later today, we have a Preakness edition of The Leftovers, and more!!
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up with our guy Albert Breer coming up here and
just a couple of moments from now a uh, getting
them all set up lined up, you know, we don't
want to take any chances on this show he is,
you know, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, the record, we talked about his appearances
on the show. We did talk about the lack of
cell phone connection, which he was deeming that it's been
much improved, and I said, I don't know that that's
the case. I feel like we still get every single
call a drop at some point where he cuts out
a bit.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I do think my favorite moment with him though, was
that that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, we still have that drop.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
That U was amazing. He was ready.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
He was ready for that hockey tournament, and so was mom.
See people don't really be realizing how ready moms be
for tournament day, competition day with their kids. Man, And
we got an inside look of it in real time.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, the league playoffs tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
She came back in that car ready to go. You
know where to you know where the World Series for
the Little League is right, you know where it is, right?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Do that same thing for five year olds or I
think they're a little older at that point. I mean, listen,
Chinese type. I had a thirty eight year old playing
one year.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So they be having ringers, man. Yeah, Ringers is a
real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
All right, Well, here he is.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, come on, break out the leather pants,
all right, cut off the sleeves of your T shirt,
let your hair go, yeah, and let them rip for
the great Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
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at the MMQB. You can get him on x at
Albert Breer AB.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Good morning, Good morning guys, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
There he is.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So, I mean, LaVar, was you know, making mention of
this earlier? But you know, you and Brady take a
boat out for two three hours.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
There we go and were.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You want to throw Var in there? That's ten dollars
cute group thing.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Var.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
We can have you him when it's linebacker day much right?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah? No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, they're all being jealous, Albert because you happen to
ask me to come on the podcast and and and
I'll be I don't know if you want to let
them know this, but I feel like you're in a
bit of a pinch based on the timming of fun.
We did it when you asked, so I was working.
I felt like I was trying to help you out with.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
It, and you did and I really appreciate Brady and
me and Jonas. Jonas would want to do a media podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'd love to.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah, let's let's we'd have all the answers.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Then, right, we'll rank the top ten douchebags that play
nice guys on the air.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
We'll do that and actually like that.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
That list to ten, right, true?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, that is a that's fair, that's a fair point.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
I feel like cutting from the that'd be like trying
to make cuts in the USA.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
National basketball right, you know, because yeah, there's a lot
of talent that will be left off the roster.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I do want to just ask you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
This, has there been any change in the public perception
locally there of this rable situation there in in and
around New England. I know nationally it's a it's a
different view, But any change is the story develops on
whether or not he's going to be the coach there
week one.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
I mean, I don't really think so. I think it's
I think there's an acceptance that like it's going to
follow them around for a while, and obviously it's still
has it still is with the developments that seemed to
come out every four or five days, you know, and
then you're going to have the schedule release, and then
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you're going to have when the team goes on the road,
and so you know, I think until the games start,
this is going to follow them around. When the game starts,
this will probably follow them around. I'd be I'd still
be stunned if Mike Brable isn't the coach of the
Patriots in twenty twenty six. You know, I do think
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it's one of those things though, where you know, it
can create a situation where a year or two for now,
maybe ownership has a little less patients with you because
of because of what you took the organization through. So
you know, look like there's a twenty five year relationship
there between the Crafts and Mike Brable. You know, I
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think there's a belief in who he is as a
person despite everything that's happened, and I still think, you know,
like there's a good person in there, like despite all this,
and you know, I think for there's also like the
sugar high that they got off of last year's success,
you know, which after they had had to go through
(06:01):
everything at the end that they went to a Bill
Belichick and the one year at your odd Mayo being
right back on the mountaintop. You know, I'm sure it
was intoxicating for the craft. So you know, I don't
doubt that every intention that they have is to go
forward with him as their head coach. And if you
look at their actions, I think all of their actions
have been sort of centered on protecting his employment. Now
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you know, I does does does that last forever?
Speaker 8 (06:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (06:27):
It doesn't last forever, you know, and it might they
have a little less patience with them a year or
two from now as a result of all of this.
I mean, that's that's something I could see.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean, I'm just trying to figure out how they
have time to do all what they're doing. I mean,
you're they're renting boats together, they're going to Sedna on
this these getaway trips, and you see them. It just
it feels like, to Jonas's point what you kind of
touched on that, you know, obviously, if he wasn't forthcoming
about all of this, that could impact the trust and
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credibility he has with the team. But also so you know,
with what he says he's actually doing when he's doing
his job as a head coach, Like, doesn't that come
into question at some point?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah, and I think that that's the thing Brady is like,
I mean, look like here's where it is locally, right,
And I think this is the best way to describe,
like the way that the general public is looking at this,
it's like everything's great now, right they went fourteen and three,
But I mean, you don't think that, like if they
start one and four, there are going to be questions
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about you know, his focus to coach. Of course there is,
you know, that's the way these things work, and that's
the sort of the bet they've made for themselves, you know.
Like so I just I think you're right like that
that piece of it does certainly come into play. What
protects him right now is the success that they had
and a track record that he asked from Tennessee. He's
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obviously a fantastic head coach and it has done a
good job now in two different places. But you know,
if not for that success, there would be a problem
them right now. You know, it would be a bigger
problem I think than it is right now. If if
the success doesn't continue the way we saw in year one,
some of those questions startingly come up.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Abe.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
I would love to continue the line of questioning on
Mike Varibel and the Rassini situation. But due to the
fact that you know what, it's going to continue on
for for a while, I'm going to switch topics and
I'm going to go to a different, a different place,
a different a different space, and I'm going to ask
you about the Aaron Rodgers situation. It seems as though,
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hearing what ownership had to say about the situation, patients
are running thin. And we had the question before, I
think we asked you this. Every week, does he sign that,
does he report in uh for for the mini camps?
Does he come back for the mandatory mini camp that
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are coming up pretty quickly here?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
It seems like that is like the next soft deadline.
Now OTAs do begin before that, and as you guys know,
that's really the start of like foot what you consider
football practice, right, But like last year, I mean, Mike
Tomlin didn't say it ahead of time, but he didn't
concede it afterwards that this was sort of a deadline
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for him. He did want to have, you know, Aaron
Rodgers in place for the mini camp of the veteran
mandatory mini camp. If Rogers was going to play in
twenty twenty five, and so using that as sort of
like a guy I would say, you know, like that
was a coach who had been in place for I mean,
he was going into his nineteenth season. You know, this
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this year, they've got a coach is going into his
first year there. So at least on paper, be even
more important for Mike McCarthy to have Aaron Rodgers in
for that mini camp than it was for Mike Tomlin
last year. So you know, yeah, I think you're right
to point at those dates. Those were the dates last
year for him, and I would I still think that
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he's going to play in twenty twenty six, but I'm
not sure that anyone knows one way or the other
for sure, other than maybe Aaron Rodgers himself. So we're
sort of right back where we were were a year ago,
you know, which I don't think anybody should be.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Blown away by Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content
Strategies at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox Sports Rady.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You can get him on X at Albert Breer. So
you did a deep dive on.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
The process the Raiders went through in selecting Fernanda Mendoza
as their quarterback what stood out to you what was
unique about their process as opposed to maybe others who
have had the same decision to make at the top
of the draft recently.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I mean, I think it was like one thing that
was sort of interesting with the hard pivot right like
where like they had known, I mean, obviously the quarterback
was going to be a need for them, and you know,
like that there could be the opportunity in the twenty
sixth track to get one all the way back in September,
and it was just interesting to look at like the
different guys that they went out and saw. The first
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quarterback that they went out and took a hard look
at was John Mattier, who got off to a nice
started Oklahoma and so the GM his first you know,
live exposure to one of the quarterbacks with Jeometier playing
against Auburn in September as they were on their way
to play Washington the Raiders were and so like they
(11:37):
they spent a lot of the fall, you know, exhausting
resources to try and get eyes on as many guys
as they could, and then you know, I think, you know,
they got to the middle of November and Okay, it's
pretty clear, like Fernando is going to be one of
the guys we're going to be looking at, and Dante
Moore is going to be one of the guys we're
looking at, and so you know, they sort of focused
(11:59):
on those two guys at the very end. Interestingly enough,
like that that Thanksgiving weekend, Jonas they did go see
Fernando Mendoza play at Purdue. They also went and subbigned
and sowersby that weekend he was one of the guys
in their list and going and playing, you know, for
Cincinnati against tcu UH and then after that they got
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another exposure to Mendoza in the semi final against Oregon
and then of course in the championship game against So
I think it was sort of an interesting process in
that they cast a pretty wide net at the beginning
and then by the end. You know, the general manager
got to see Mendoza live three times the span of
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amount month and a half, which is a lot for
a general manager. You know, there's so many other things
that fall unto the general manager's purview. You know, over
the course of the season, that he's going out and
seeing one college player three times, that's a pretty pretty
healthy investment and making sure you're getting the right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Guy, Albert.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I want to switch gears and talk about the NFL officials.
It sounds like they're about ready to agree to something
or at least vote on the current agreement with the
NFL has provided them for their CBA.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Did do you get a sense that this is going.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
To go through?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We're not gonna have to worry about this as a
distraction this season.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, just to update
people who aren't maybe following this is closely, Brady, I
know you've probably read up on it, but like they
had so like an email went out to the officials
earlier this week and it kind of took them through
the key points of what is maybe not quite an
agreement but getting close to it and have a RADI
(13:44):
vacation vote, And I would think they're going to vote
it through now, you know, I remember about the officials.
It's a little different than the players, right, like just
in that they they are they don't need need the
money the same way the players do. In that like,
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this isn't from a lot of those guys, This isn't
their livelihoods. You know, a lot of the guys are
successful doctors, or lawyers or like, this is not their
primary source of income, you know, so like it's not
nothing the money they're making, but they're also okay if
they're not totally satisfyed with the conditions of a deal
(14:26):
to fit out and wait for more, you know, which
is how the lockout happened, and how the lockout carried
into the season back in twenty twelve. Whereas like for
the players, that is their livelihood, that is their primary
source of income, so you take it away, it hits
them a little bit harder. So I would expect like
there to be you know, I think like some healthy
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discussion about this and everything else amongst the officials. But
the fact we've been pushing it to a ratification vote,
the fact that the barging committee has something to put
in front of of the officials themselves, it tells you
that they are closing in on a deal. And that's
go for everybody, you know. I don't think anybody wants
to go through what we want through. In twenty twelve, again.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Speaking on deals, CBA is coming up, eighteen games is
being discussed. I think there was a statement from you
that you you basically said that Craft's arguments for the
eighteen game season come across as disingenuous, can you can
you expand on that?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yeah, So, like what I was saying, and I've heard
a lot of owners use this line, and I think
it's kind of garbage. So, like, you know, they will
treat it like it's like a twenty game aggregate, right,
and so well, it's no big deal if we go
from sixteen and four to seventeen and three or seventeen
and three eighteen and two. I just hate that line
(15:51):
of logic because it's just, I mean, it's it's sort
of insulting to everybody involved, you know, because like look
like if you're a veteran player who's going to be
playing whatever it is, sixty snaps a game in the
regular season, those preseason games are not the same as
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regular season games, you know, like, and it's it's it's
just sort of like I think it's sort of insulting
everybody's intelligence for them to say, oh, well, we're just
changing it so like one preseason games becomes a regular
season game. I mean, it's just it's not a real
way of looking at it. So like let's just call
it what it is, which is it's more damage on guys' bodies.
(16:36):
It could shorten guy's careers. It makes it harder for
guys to make it the free agency healthy. Right, Like,
So now instead of having to make it through seventeen
game seasons, you got to make it through eighteen game seasons. Now,
instead of it being sixty eight games that you got
to make it through to get it to be eligible
to become an unrestricted free agent, it's seventy two games.
(16:58):
You know. There are all those things. They're sort of
a I think there are all those things that are factors,
you know, And like referring to this as just moving
one preseason game and turning it into a regular it's
just for me, it's insulting to the public to present
it that way. But this has been some one of
(17:19):
their talking points. And I'm not singling out Robert Kraft here,
like he's used that line. Jerry Jones and all of
them have used that line. The commissioners use that line.
I just think it's consultant to the public. So if
we're gonna have a real discussion about this, let's call
it what it is and acknowledge that there's going to
be a little more of the players are going to
have to take on here, and that there needs to
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be a giveback for what the players are going to
be going through to make this happen.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Can you one of the things Albert were joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio that Craft points out as
the international aspect. You know, each team will get an
opportunity to play an international game. So let me ask
you how realistic is the possibility because I've heard this
thrown around two maybe Roger Goodell's the one who talked
about it, But how realistic is the possibility that not
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only are we going to get a permanent team in
another country, but we're going to get an entire division.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Over in Europe at some point?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is that a realistic possibility at this point?
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I mean just to tell you, just to give you
the history here. So back in two thousand and seven
they launched the International Series and so that was the
first regular season game in London and they did the
time with the goal of having a team full time
in London within fifteen years, so that would have been
twenty twenty two. So they didn't hit that goal. And
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one of the main reasons why it's actually really interesting
is they figured there would be over that period of
time advances in air travel that would cut through some
of the logistical problems that you have in trying to
put team over there. And you know, I think you can,
you can game it up to a certain degree, but
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it becomes a lot harder when you're talking about Okay,
like now we're talking of teams have to play midweek games. Now,
all right, what happens if Seattle draws London in the
first round of the playoffs and you're talking about, like
the Seahawks having to go play in London in a
one off situation that there's no planning for, no planning around, Like,
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that's hard, you know. So those logistical hurdles have been
I think too difficult to overcome again because some of
the advances and travel that maybe they expected the time
haven't happened. So what they're doing instead is like putting
more games in London and putting more games in other
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cities and trying to grow it that way. I just
I don't know what the answer is Jonas to to
to to a logistical issue. I mean, at one point,
believe it or not, they had actually thought about like
having a UK team with having having like the Atlanta
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be the the US base because you can because that's
such a travel hub. Right when you're doing like Tuesday workouts,
you could fly guys in to Atlanta and work them
out and then fly them over to London if they're
signing with the team. There are so many, so many
of those little logistical things that you have to overcome
that I think at this point it's just more like,
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how can we grow it in different ways other than
putting a team there until those logistical issues are solved,
And maybe one of them is putting a whole division
over there. But I don't know. I don't know that
they feel like putting a whole division over that. Wouldn't
know that wouldn't like that wouldn't solve everything. And like,
you know, to support a whole division over there is
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different than supporting one team, you know. So I don't
know if they're there from a popularity standpoint in that
part of the world either.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What's interesting about that, Albert is when we went in
twenty ten, when I was a part of the Denver
Broncos and we went to play the San Francisco forty
nine ers, that was what someone told me. The vision was,
and that was kind of the only logistical way to
make it work because obviously you've got your six divisional
games that you would be able to play without really
impacting the players, coaching staffs, etc. Too much with the travel.
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But then it would be traveling to the Eastern seaboard.
That wouldn't be that different from for example, the Seattle
Seahawks and when you look at their travel or the Los.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Angeles Rams going from the West coast to the East coast.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that was the idea that was again told to
me way back when, sixteen years ago. But it is
interesting to think that with this push towards these international Games,
there does seem to be a desire or at least
a bit more fandom from really a lot of the
grassroots I think were laid by NFL Europe. So I
(21:56):
think it'd be cool personally, Like I remember talking to
someone about this and I was like, I would have
loved have been one of the first players to go
over there and be a part of a team over there.
I just think it'd be really neat to, you know,
see how that country accepts the sport or adopts it.
And I remember even just going for that game, Like
a lot of the German fans came. They loved American football,
like they thought it was the coolest thing in the world.
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In the scheme and the tactics to it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
They were huge fans. So I look, again, it's a
pipe dream.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't know if it happens anytime soon, but it'd
be really cool to see an entire division in.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
My opinion, Yeah, I would love it, like and I think,
you know again, like I think the logistical issue is
the like if they could overcome that, I think they
would love to do it, like a lot of these
I mean, and it's part of it, like you just
have to. I mean, the NFL fifteen twenty years ago
came to the point where they the the owners felt like,
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it's hard for us to grow much more domestically than
we already have. So how do we grow out? And
the way you grow out is by adding inventory, right,
So that's adding a seventeenth game, adding an eight eighteens game,
that's expanded playoffs, and that that's going back to LA
with not one but two teams, and that's going international,
you know what I mean. And that's where the real
growth is for them. And you know, I think it's
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if you've ever been to one of the games over there,
and and Brady, you know, like you said, you experienced it.
It's a totally different atmosphere. It's a it's a cool thing.
And like I I I love the idea of it.
I just I'm just not sure how they would make
it work logistically. But you know, like again, like it
(23:33):
is it, you know, you see it in Germany. I
mean there's great history there too. I mean Michael Strahan
was born in Germany, and like his story is kind
of the one of how football got popular in Germany
in the first place. Is that post World War Two
you had all of these you know, US military bases
in Germany, and so like it became there there there
(23:55):
became like a grassroots popularity there that carried over into
NFL Europe. So you know, I could think by going
over there and making every team have one international gaming year,
which is what they would go to if they had
eighteen games right where you'd have a full you have
a sixteen game, you know, play sixteen games over there
every year. You'd continue to grow it, you know, and
(24:18):
you continue to try to build the popularity to the
game to a point where maybe someday you could have
teams over there.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Good stuff, Abe always appreciate it. He is Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Get
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Speaker 3 (24:38):
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I'm still trying to get over that video.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Brady said, he knows, Hey, same leg, same shoulder when
you're going into contact.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Man, same leg, same shoulder. Yeah, that is hilarious. He
learned the hard way.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Pooky the crack manh Yeah, there was there's a video
on social media. Some guy on his phone, he's wearing
flips and shorts outside of bar, and he's pointing to somebody,
and all of a sudden, into the camera flies this
drug addict full steam ahead, and this guy just puts
(27:10):
his shoulder right into this dude and sleeps him. I
fell face for a face, planted, legs, crossed over, just
just got annihilated. So you gotta be careful out there
and on his phone the whole time. Yeah, it's real
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NBA Playoffs will continue on later on tonight. I think
everybody sort of has an understanding as to what is
going to happen coming up later on tonight. The Oklahoma
City Thunder are going to take care of business like
they've done for majority of the season. They are a
significant favorite over the Los Angeles Lakers. You've also got
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the Calves and the Pistons. How we feeling here, Brady,
coming into Game two of this series? I mean, what
are we feeling here?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Feeling like?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay see, look, okay see in San Antonio have displayed
to be especially when they play the top of their game.
That the best two in the West, but maybe the
best two in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
What about your calves? What about your calves getting through?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
LeVar has touched on some of the concerns that I
think we all have as Calves fans, And there's often
times with my heart, you know, maybe more so than
my head, and what my eyes are telling me is
that again, okay see in San Antonio, the winner, which
I assume they'll both move through these series, will end
up winning it all when it's all said and done
(28:56):
so and by the way, and that's probably what I'd
like to see. Like those two teams, to mirror are
the best two. I think scaring off would be a
really interesting matchup between those two.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Write off the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I think what Lebron is doing at his age, how
well he's playing at this point in time, and his
career is incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just I do get exhausted and tired of the
MJ Lebron debate.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I mean, it's different errors, they're different players, Like I
don't know that you have to detract from what Lebron
has accomplished.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
In order to make your case for Michael. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I just the longer Lebron plays, the more people keep
trying to use this ah, this is evidence of that.
It's like, well, look, I mean I've been alive to
watch both and I have a ton of respect for both.
But like Jordan at his peak, at his prime, was
the best, Like I'm sorry now he didn't play for
as long, He's not going to have the accumulation of
stats and everything else. And quite frankly, he's a very
(29:52):
different player than Lebron. But you also, at the same
you know, time have to give Lebron his due and
his credit for what he's doing, especially at this age.
It's remarkable. So I'm just tired of that debate and
I feel like, as bad as this is to say,
once this series is over, we're not gonna be talking
about that as much.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I was just gonna mention Luca spoke about his hamstring
issue and you know, said there's still unsure when he's
going to return to the Lakers, and if they needed
to know, I mean I can help him out with that.
That'll be next year, is when he returns to the Lakers.
You've seen the last of them this year. That's over.
So if you're waiting to see what the timeline looks like,
(30:37):
I would say about October as when you can see
Luca back in a Laker uniform because he ain't playing
the rest of the season, it's over.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So come to terms with that and then we can.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Move on with our lives.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I think if they make it a series, he comes
back this series. If it's not a competitive series, like
if they get down three to zero, yeah you could
call it a day. But if they somehow some way
grab this one tied up one to one, there's the
(31:08):
pot to me, there's the possibility that you could get
a Luca sighting in Game three or four, a two
to one series lead, doesn't it still can be a
competitive series. So I just think I think for what
it's where kind of you know, kind of playing off
(31:29):
of what Q had to say about Lebron, Do you
not look at this as a golden opportunity to be
a part of making history. Like I think Luca knows
the magnitude and the gravity of the fact that Lebron
is playing his ass off, is fighting at the age
(31:49):
that he is, and he was brought there to replace
Lebron and be the new face of the team and
be the guy that is the franchise that gets you there.
They pulled off the improbable, even though they were the
higher seed. They make it through Houston to get to
the second round of the playoffs and you're playing against
(32:13):
the Juggernut Sga lad Oka see Thunder. If you're telling
me that Luca is not giving it everything he has
to try to get back and participate and be a
part of this series, then why is he a pro?
(32:33):
Why is why is he playing professional ball if he's
not exhausting every single resource and possibility to try to
get back and be a participant on your team, Like
this is your team, You're the franchise, but one of
the goats is on his swan song and you're just
(32:55):
going to be like like, yeah, maybe next year.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
I don't think that Lucas wired that way, or most
athletes are wired that way.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
But I think that there's also the reality that when
he suffered the injury, initially they told him eight weeks
and I think it's been four or five, so he's
still not close to coming back. And when he talks
about being frustrated and wanting to play, I don't doubt
the fact that he wants to play.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I just don't think he's going to pop.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
And you might be right that that could be as
simple an explanation that he just can't do it. I
don't know if you guys have ever popped a quad
or popped a hamstring. I don't think I have him,
to be honest with you, I popped a hams well,
I pulled a hamstring.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I popped a quad.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
It is a very, very very slow to heal injury. Yeah,
So I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't question the fact
that if he couldn't get back, the relevance of the injury,
I get it. But if you're not trying to get
back with all your might in this moment where you
could be a part of a historical run, I just
(34:03):
don't I don't know why you compete other I mean,
maybe it's just the money.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I don't know, but I don't I don't think that
that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Well, there's a lot of perks that come with being
an NBA player, you know, there certainly are. Yeah, it
is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on
by the way, hitting that shoulder like that is it's
perfect form. Like yeah, if you catch if you catch
a person on that balance zone and they don't really
understand what that balance zone like how important.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
It is, it could go really bad for you. The
guy put his head down, he didn't see the contact point.
The guy kept his cool, maintained composure, hit the contact point,
and put him to bid.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
That is how you do it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And you know what, that wouldn't even get him fined
or penalized because he didn't lead with the head. Shoulder,
that didn't bump heads, didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
He was talking to his girlfriend wife. Friend handed the
phone to the homie. Well, no he didn't, and the
phone he dropped his phone phone. Homie picks the phone up,
hands it back to him. He goes back to the
call like nothing even happened. With the dead body on
the ground.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
In flip flops and flipflops.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
You right, cube, same same leg, same same hand, same leg,
same foot like you right take that drug addicts anchor
that thing down boy, good night.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
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Speaker 3 (36:33):
What's left tons, Incredibles.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Here's the leftover, Kyla Ray Ray what we got all right?
Speaker 9 (36:40):
We got some decent leftovers here Today news in the
horse racing world, the Kentucky Derby winner Golden Tempo's team
released a statement saying, after much thoughtful discussion as a team,
we have decided that Golden Tempo will bypass the Preakness stake.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh a joke, Goodness, no one cares what the Triple
crowd anymore?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Man, Joe.
Speaker 9 (37:01):
Well, that's the thing. A lot of the fans were
hoping that he would get that Triple crown, but the
Sherry devout Racing believes that the best decision for him
is to give him more time after his tremendous efforts,
and his health and happiness and long term future future
will remain the top priority.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No one's gonna argue with that.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
But can we be real about this? So they get
three point one million from the purse. That's that's their winnings.
What they take home. I think the jockey gets ten percent,
the trainer gets ten percent, the owner gets eighty percent.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
What people don't realize though, is that horse will make
probably twenty five million in studfees. It'll make more in
just creating the next Golden Tempo then it will actually racing.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, but I mean, you know who wants to sleep
with a quitter? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
He didn't quit quit what they're managing. They're managing him
after he won.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, I'll manage this. You got two weeks of teen races.
Get in there, lazy ass.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
How long did it used to be between the Derby
and the Preakness? Because they said that they moved it
up and it's gonna make it worse.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Triple Crown is dead.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, just did.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
You're not going to see it again.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I mean, like like there's really no way to have
incentivizing the horses. I mean, even if you made the
purse bigger, it's still not worth it. If it's gonna
impact long term they're ability to stut him ount and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I mean, he only knew how much he was.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
He was bitling for that.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh well, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Maybe the three horses that we picked that were scratches,
maybe they can participate in the in the next race.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Maybe they can pick up their game.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
A little bit here. I think we need to pick
more than one horse than stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, upon further review, we do need to pick more
than one.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah. What else we got right?
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Ray, Well, we did mention Brussel will playing with the
bananas well after Spirit Airlines closed the other day.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Big pause, big banana. Oh hey, anyway, so.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
The banana's owner, Yellow Tugs Jesse, posted a reel on
Instagram pointing out that there is an airline with a
bunch of yellow planes available, and he made like that
sus look on his face and he said, why not,
it is our color.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So now over one.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Hundred and sixty thousand likes on that specific post.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
But people are wanting banana air.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
They're thinking fun ideas like publicly owned with really good
price options and they would be serving banana splits on
the flights. Just an idea, but you know, I like it.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let's not get past the key part. Can we make
sure the thing's operable, and the flat pilots you can
fly it well. Like I know, Savannah Bananas is all
about the entertainment aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
When I'm on a flame, yeah, just give me for
me to be safely, please.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I could care less about a banana split, color of
the plane, some dudes who are wearing cutoffs dancing around
gyrating their junk. I mean, I could care less about
any of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, I bet you are. Of course you are. Wait,
you're out tomorrow. We didn't mean to. You're in onto Bananas.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I don't have to twist your arm. But she's in
for anybody that's, you know, looking to put banana air
into the sky. I just I don't get the whole.
I know, the Savannah Bananas sell out everywhere.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I just.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I good for them.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I'm good with regular baseball, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah,
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up with our guy Albert Breer coming up here and
just a couple of moments from now a uh, getting
them all set up lined up, you know, we don't
want to take any chances on this show he is,
you know, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, the record, we talked about his appearances
on the show. We did talk about the lack of
cell phone connection, which he was deeming that it's been
much improved, and I said, I don't know that that's
the case. I feel like we still get every single
call a drop at some point where he cuts out
a bit.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I do think my favorite moment with him though, was
that that was impressive.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, we still have that drop.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
That U was amazing. He was ready.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
He was ready for that hockey tournament, and so was mom.
See people don't really be realizing how ready moms be
for tournament day, competition day with their kids. Man, And
we got an inside look of it in real time.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay, the league playoffs tonight.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
She came back in that car ready to go. You
know where to you know where the World Series for
the Little League is right, you know where it is, right?
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Do that same thing for five year olds or I
think they're a little older at that point. I mean, listen,
Chinese type. I had a thirty eight year old playing
one year.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So they be having ringers, man. Yeah, Ringers is a
real thing.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
All right, Well, here he is.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, come on, break out the leather pants,
all right, cut off the sleeves of your T shirt,
let your hair go, yeah, and let them rip for
the great Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
(02:48):
at the MMQB. You can get him on x at
Albert Breer AB.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Good morning, Good morning guys, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
There he is.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So, I mean, LaVar, was you know, making mention of
this earlier? But you know, you and Brady take a
boat out for two three hours.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
There we go and were.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You want to throw Var in there? That's ten dollars
cute group thing.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Var.
Speaker 7 (03:13):
We can have you him when it's linebacker day much right?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah? No, No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, they're all being jealous, Albert because you happen to
ask me to come on the podcast and and and
I'll be I don't know if you want to let
them know this, but I feel like you're in a
bit of a pinch based on the timming of fun.
We did it when you asked, so I was working.
I felt like I was trying to help you out with.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
It, and you did and I really appreciate Brady and
me and Jonas. Jonas would want to do a media podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'd love to.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah, let's let's we'd have all the answers.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Then, right, we'll rank the top ten douchebags that play
nice guys on the air.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
We'll do that and actually like that.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
That list to ten, right, true?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, that is a that's fair, that's a fair point.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
I feel like cutting from the that'd be like trying
to make cuts in the USA.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
National basketball right, you know, because yeah, there's a lot
of talent that will be left off the roster.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
I do want to just ask you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
This, has there been any change in the public perception
locally there of this rable situation there in in and
around New England. I know nationally it's a it's a
different view, But any change is the story develops on
whether or not he's going to be the coach there
week one.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
I mean, I don't really think so. I think it's
I think there's an acceptance that like it's going to
follow them around for a while, and obviously it's still
has it still is with the developments that seemed to
come out every four or five days, you know, and
then you're going to have the schedule release, and then
(04:56):
you're going to have when the team goes on the road,
and so you know, I think until the games start,
this is going to follow them around. When the game starts,
this will probably follow them around. I'd be I'd still
be stunned if Mike Brable isn't the coach of the
Patriots in twenty twenty six. You know, I do think
(05:17):
it's one of those things though, where you know, it
can create a situation where a year or two for now,
maybe ownership has a little less patients with you because
of because of what you took the organization through. So
you know, look like there's a twenty five year relationship
there between the Crafts and Mike Brable. You know, I
(05:39):
think there's a belief in who he is as a
person despite everything that's happened, and I still think, you know,
like there's a good person in there, like despite all this,
and you know, I think for there's also like the
sugar high that they got off of last year's success,
you know, which after they had had to go through
(06:01):
everything at the end that they went to a Bill
Belichick and the one year at your odd Mayo being
right back on the mountaintop. You know, I'm sure it
was intoxicating for the craft. So you know, I don't
doubt that every intention that they have is to go
forward with him as their head coach. And if you
look at their actions, I think all of their actions
have been sort of centered on protecting his employment. Now
(06:23):
you know, I does does does that last forever?
Speaker 8 (06:26):
No?
Speaker 7 (06:27):
It doesn't last forever, you know, and it might they
have a little less patience with them a year or
two from now as a result of all of this.
I mean, that's that's something I could see.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I mean, I'm just trying to figure out how they
have time to do all what they're doing. I mean,
you're they're renting boats together, they're going to Sedna on
this these getaway trips, and you see them. It just
it feels like, to Jonas's point what you kind of
touched on that, you know, obviously, if he wasn't forthcoming
about all of this, that could impact the trust and
(06:58):
credibility he has with the team. But also so you know,
with what he says he's actually doing when he's doing
his job as a head coach, Like, doesn't that come
into question at some point?
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah, and I think that that's the thing Brady is like,
I mean, look like here's where it is locally, right,
And I think this is the best way to describe,
like the way that the general public is looking at this,
it's like everything's great now, right they went fourteen and three,
But I mean, you don't think that, like if they
start one and four, there are going to be questions
(07:29):
about you know, his focus to coach. Of course there is,
you know, that's the way these things work, and that's
the sort of the bet they've made for themselves, you know.
Like so I just I think you're right like that
that piece of it does certainly come into play. What
protects him right now is the success that they had
and a track record that he asked from Tennessee. He's
(07:50):
obviously a fantastic head coach and it has done a
good job now in two different places. But you know,
if not for that success, there would be a problem
them right now. You know, it would be a bigger
problem I think than it is right now. If if
the success doesn't continue the way we saw in year one,
some of those questions startingly come up.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Abe.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
I would love to continue the line of questioning on
Mike Varibel and the Rassini situation. But due to the
fact that you know what, it's going to continue on
for for a while, I'm going to switch topics and
I'm going to go to a different, a different place,
a different a different space, and I'm going to ask
you about the Aaron Rodgers situation. It seems as though,
(08:36):
hearing what ownership had to say about the situation, patients
are running thin. And we had the question before, I
think we asked you this. Every week, does he sign that,
does he report in uh for for the mini camps?
Does he come back for the mandatory mini camp that
(09:00):
are coming up pretty quickly here?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
It seems like that is like the next soft deadline.
Now OTAs do begin before that, and as you guys know,
that's really the start of like foot what you consider
football practice, right, But like last year, I mean, Mike
Tomlin didn't say it ahead of time, but he didn't
concede it afterwards that this was sort of a deadline
(09:25):
for him. He did want to have, you know, Aaron
Rodgers in place for the mini camp of the veteran
mandatory mini camp. If Rogers was going to play in
twenty twenty five, and so using that as sort of
like a guy I would say, you know, like that
was a coach who had been in place for I mean,
he was going into his nineteenth season. You know, this
(09:47):
this year, they've got a coach is going into his
first year there. So at least on paper, be even
more important for Mike McCarthy to have Aaron Rodgers in
for that mini camp than it was for Mike Tomlin
last year. So you know, yeah, I think you're right
to point at those dates. Those were the dates last
year for him, and I would I still think that
(10:09):
he's going to play in twenty twenty six, but I'm
not sure that anyone knows one way or the other
for sure, other than maybe Aaron Rodgers himself. So we're
sort of right back where we were were a year ago,
you know, which I don't think anybody should be.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Blown away by Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content
Strategies at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox Sports Rady.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You can get him on X at Albert Breer. So
you did a deep dive on.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
The process the Raiders went through in selecting Fernanda Mendoza
as their quarterback what stood out to you what was
unique about their process as opposed to maybe others who
have had the same decision to make at the top
of the draft recently.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I mean, I think it was like one thing that
was sort of interesting with the hard pivot right like
where like they had known, I mean, obviously the quarterback
was going to be a need for them, and you know,
like that there could be the opportunity in the twenty
sixth track to get one all the way back in September,
and it was just interesting to look at like the
different guys that they went out and saw. The first
(11:16):
quarterback that they went out and took a hard look
at was John Mattier, who got off to a nice
started Oklahoma and so the GM his first you know,
live exposure to one of the quarterbacks with Jeometier playing
against Auburn in September as they were on their way
to play Washington the Raiders were and so like they
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they spent a lot of the fall, you know, exhausting
resources to try and get eyes on as many guys
as they could, and then you know, I think, you know,
they got to the middle of November and Okay, it's
pretty clear, like Fernando is going to be one of
the guys we're going to be looking at, and Dante
Moore is going to be one of the guys we're
looking at, and so you know, they sort of focused
(11:59):
on those two guys at the very end. Interestingly enough,
like that that Thanksgiving weekend, Jonas they did go see
Fernando Mendoza play at Purdue. They also went and subbigned
and sowersby that weekend he was one of the guys
in their list and going and playing, you know, for
Cincinnati against tcu UH and then after that they got
(12:22):
another exposure to Mendoza in the semi final against Oregon
and then of course in the championship game against So
I think it was sort of an interesting process in
that they cast a pretty wide net at the beginning
and then by the end. You know, the general manager
got to see Mendoza live three times the span of
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amount month and a half, which is a lot for
a general manager. You know, there's so many other things
that fall unto the general manager's purview. You know, over
the course of the season, that he's going out and
seeing one college player three times, that's a pretty pretty
healthy investment and making sure you're getting the right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Guy, Albert.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I want to switch gears and talk about the NFL officials.
It sounds like they're about ready to agree to something
or at least vote on the current agreement with the
NFL has provided them for their CBA.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Did do you get a sense that this is going.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
To go through?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
We're not gonna have to worry about this as a
distraction this season.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, just to update
people who aren't maybe following this is closely, Brady, I
know you've probably read up on it, but like they
had so like an email went out to the officials
earlier this week and it kind of took them through
the key points of what is maybe not quite an
agreement but getting close to it and have a RADI
(13:44):
vacation vote, And I would think they're going to vote
it through now, you know, I remember about the officials.
It's a little different than the players, right, like just
in that they they are they don't need need the
money the same way the players do. In that like,
(14:05):
this isn't from a lot of those guys, This isn't
their livelihoods. You know, a lot of the guys are
successful doctors, or lawyers or like, this is not their
primary source of income, you know, so like it's not
nothing the money they're making, but they're also okay if
they're not totally satisfyed with the conditions of a deal
(14:26):
to fit out and wait for more, you know, which
is how the lockout happened, and how the lockout carried
into the season back in twenty twelve. Whereas like for
the players, that is their livelihood, that is their primary
source of income, so you take it away, it hits
them a little bit harder. So I would expect like
there to be you know, I think like some healthy
(14:46):
discussion about this and everything else amongst the officials. But
the fact we've been pushing it to a ratification vote,
the fact that the barging committee has something to put
in front of of the officials themselves, it tells you
that they are closing in on a deal. And that's
go for everybody, you know. I don't think anybody wants
to go through what we want through. In twenty twelve, again.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Speaking on deals, CBA is coming up, eighteen games is
being discussed. I think there was a statement from you
that you you basically said that Craft's arguments for the
eighteen game season come across as disingenuous, can you can
you expand on that?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yeah, So, like what I was saying, and I've heard
a lot of owners use this line, and I think
it's kind of garbage. So, like, you know, they will
treat it like it's like a twenty game aggregate, right,
and so well, it's no big deal if we go
from sixteen and four to seventeen and three or seventeen
and three eighteen and two. I just hate that line
(15:51):
of logic because it's just, I mean, it's it's sort
of insulting to everybody involved, you know, because like look
like if you're a veteran player who's going to be
playing whatever it is, sixty snaps a game in the
regular season, those preseason games are not the same as
(16:12):
regular season games, you know, like, and it's it's it's
just sort of like I think it's sort of insulting
everybody's intelligence for them to say, oh, well, we're just
changing it so like one preseason games becomes a regular
season game. I mean, it's just it's not a real
way of looking at it. So like let's just call
it what it is, which is it's more damage on guys' bodies.
(16:36):
It could shorten guy's careers. It makes it harder for
guys to make it the free agency healthy. Right, Like,
So now instead of having to make it through seventeen
game seasons, you got to make it through eighteen game seasons. Now,
instead of it being sixty eight games that you got
to make it through to get it to be eligible
to become an unrestricted free agent, it's seventy two games.
(16:58):
You know. There are all those things. They're sort of
a I think there are all those things that are factors,
you know, And like referring to this as just moving
one preseason game and turning it into a regular it's
just for me, it's insulting to the public to present
it that way. But this has been some one of
(17:19):
their talking points. And I'm not singling out Robert Kraft here,
like he's used that line. Jerry Jones and all of
them have used that line. The commissioners use that line.
I just think it's consultant to the public. So if
we're gonna have a real discussion about this, let's call
it what it is and acknowledge that there's going to
be a little more of the players are going to
have to take on here, and that there needs to
(17:41):
be a giveback for what the players are going to
be going through to make this happen.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Can you one of the things Albert were joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio that Craft points out as
the international aspect. You know, each team will get an
opportunity to play an international game. So let me ask
you how realistic is the possibility because I've heard this
thrown around two maybe Roger Goodell's the one who talked
about it, But how realistic is the possibility that not
(18:08):
only are we going to get a permanent team in
another country, but we're going to get an entire division.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Over in Europe at some point?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Is that a realistic possibility at this point?
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I mean just to tell you, just to give you
the history here. So back in two thousand and seven
they launched the International Series and so that was the
first regular season game in London and they did the
time with the goal of having a team full time
in London within fifteen years, so that would have been
twenty twenty two. So they didn't hit that goal. And
(18:46):
one of the main reasons why it's actually really interesting
is they figured there would be over that period of
time advances in air travel that would cut through some
of the logistical problems that you have in trying to
put team over there. And you know, I think you can,
you can game it up to a certain degree, but
(19:07):
it becomes a lot harder when you're talking about Okay,
like now we're talking of teams have to play midweek games. Now,
all right, what happens if Seattle draws London in the
first round of the playoffs and you're talking about, like
the Seahawks having to go play in London in a
one off situation that there's no planning for, no planning around, Like,
(19:28):
that's hard, you know. So those logistical hurdles have been
I think too difficult to overcome again because some of
the advances and travel that maybe they expected the time
haven't happened. So what they're doing instead is like putting
more games in London and putting more games in other
(19:48):
cities and trying to grow it that way. I just
I don't know what the answer is Jonas to to
to to a logistical issue. I mean, at one point,
believe it or not, they had actually thought about like
having a UK team with having having like the Atlanta
(20:08):
be the the US base because you can because that's
such a travel hub. Right when you're doing like Tuesday workouts,
you could fly guys in to Atlanta and work them
out and then fly them over to London if they're
signing with the team. There are so many, so many
of those little logistical things that you have to overcome
that I think at this point it's just more like,
(20:30):
how can we grow it in different ways other than
putting a team there until those logistical issues are solved,
And maybe one of them is putting a whole division
over there. But I don't know. I don't know that
they feel like putting a whole division over that. Wouldn't
know that wouldn't like that wouldn't solve everything. And like,
you know, to support a whole division over there is
(20:52):
different than supporting one team, you know. So I don't
know if they're there from a popularity standpoint in that
part of the world either.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
What's interesting about that, Albert is when we went in
twenty ten, when I was a part of the Denver
Broncos and we went to play the San Francisco forty
nine ers, that was what someone told me. The vision was,
and that was kind of the only logistical way to
make it work because obviously you've got your six divisional
games that you would be able to play without really
impacting the players, coaching staffs, etc. Too much with the travel.
(21:23):
But then it would be traveling to the Eastern seaboard.
That wouldn't be that different from for example, the Seattle
Seahawks and when you look at their travel or the Los.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Angeles Rams going from the West coast to the East coast.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So that was the idea that was again told to
me way back when, sixteen years ago. But it is
interesting to think that with this push towards these international Games,
there does seem to be a desire or at least
a bit more fandom from really a lot of the
grassroots I think were laid by NFL Europe. So I
(21:56):
think it'd be cool personally, Like I remember talking to
someone about this and I was like, I would have
loved have been one of the first players to go
over there and be a part of a team over there.
I just think it'd be really neat to, you know,
see how that country accepts the sport or adopts it.
And I remember even just going for that game, Like
a lot of the German fans came. They loved American football,
like they thought it was the coolest thing in the world.
(22:18):
In the scheme and the tactics to it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
They were huge fans. So I look, again, it's a
pipe dream.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't know if it happens anytime soon, but it'd
be really cool to see an entire division in.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
My opinion, Yeah, I would love it, like and I think,
you know again, like I think the logistical issue is
the like if they could overcome that, I think they
would love to do it, like a lot of these
I mean, and it's part of it, like you just
have to. I mean, the NFL fifteen twenty years ago
came to the point where they the the owners felt like,
(22:50):
it's hard for us to grow much more domestically than
we already have. So how do we grow out? And
the way you grow out is by adding inventory, right,
So that's adding a seventeenth game, adding an eight eighteens game,
that's expanded playoffs, and that that's going back to LA
with not one but two teams, and that's going international,
you know what I mean. And that's where the real
growth is for them. And you know, I think it's
(23:13):
if you've ever been to one of the games over there,
and and Brady, you know, like you said, you experienced it.
It's a totally different atmosphere. It's a it's a cool thing.
And like I I I love the idea of it.
I just I'm just not sure how they would make
it work logistically. But you know, like again, like it
(23:33):
is it, you know, you see it in Germany. I
mean there's great history there too. I mean Michael Strahan
was born in Germany, and like his story is kind
of the one of how football got popular in Germany
in the first place. Is that post World War Two
you had all of these you know, US military bases
in Germany, and so like it became there there there
(23:55):
became like a grassroots popularity there that carried over into
NFL Europe. So you know, I could think by going
over there and making every team have one international gaming year,
which is what they would go to if they had
eighteen games right where you'd have a full you have
a sixteen game, you know, play sixteen games over there
every year. You'd continue to grow it, you know, and
(24:18):
you continue to try to build the popularity to the
game to a point where maybe someday you could have
teams over there.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Good stuff, Abe always appreciate it. He is Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Get
him on X at Albert Breer and a Thursday tradition
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Speaker 3 (24:38):
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Speaker 5 (26:04):
They go, var, I mean, why not? You know what
he's said, I have no idea.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Meet me somewhere, Meet me at the Booby Eddie parking lot.
Sure about that, the Booby dy parking lot.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, listen to it again.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I'm still trying to get over that video.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Brady said, he knows, Hey, same leg, same shoulder when
you're going into contact.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Man, same leg, same shoulder. Yeah, that is hilarious. He
learned the hard way.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Pooky the crack manh Yeah, there was there's a video
on social media. Some guy on his phone, he's wearing
flips and shorts outside of bar, and he's pointing to somebody,
and all of a sudden, into the camera flies this
drug addict full steam ahead, and this guy just puts
(27:10):
his shoulder right into this dude and sleeps him. I
fell face for a face, planted, legs, crossed over, just
just got annihilated. So you gotta be careful out there
and on his phone the whole time. Yeah, it's real
(27:30):
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(27:51):
NBA Playoffs will continue on later on tonight. I think
everybody sort of has an understanding as to what is
going to happen coming up later on tonight. The Oklahoma
City Thunder are going to take care of business like
they've done for majority of the season. They are a
significant favorite over the Los Angeles Lakers. You've also got
(28:12):
the Calves and the Pistons. How we feeling here, Brady,
coming into Game two of this series? I mean, what
are we feeling here?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Feeling like?
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay see, look, okay see in San Antonio have displayed
to be especially when they play the top of their game.
That the best two in the West, but maybe the
best two in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
What about your calves? What about your calves getting through?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
LeVar has touched on some of the concerns that I
think we all have as Calves fans, And there's often
times with my heart, you know, maybe more so than
my head, and what my eyes are telling me is
that again, okay see in San Antonio, the winner, which
I assume they'll both move through these series, will end
up winning it all when it's all said and done
(28:56):
so and by the way, and that's probably what I'd
like to see. Like those two teams, to mirror are
the best two. I think scaring off would be a
really interesting matchup between those two.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
So I'm not trying to.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Write off the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I think what Lebron is doing at his age, how
well he's playing at this point in time, and his
career is incredible.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just I do get exhausted and tired of the
MJ Lebron debate.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I mean, it's different errors, they're different players, Like I
don't know that you have to detract from what Lebron
has accomplished.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
In order to make your case for Michael. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
I just the longer Lebron plays, the more people keep
trying to use this ah, this is evidence of that.
It's like, well, look, I mean I've been alive to
watch both and I have a ton of respect for both.
But like Jordan at his peak, at his prime, was
the best, Like I'm sorry now he didn't play for
as long, He's not going to have the accumulation of
stats and everything else. And quite frankly, he's a very
(29:52):
different player than Lebron. But you also, at the same
you know, time have to give Lebron his due and
his credit for what he's doing, especially at this age.
It's remarkable. So I'm just tired of that debate and
I feel like, as bad as this is to say,
once this series is over, we're not gonna be talking
about that as much.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
I was just gonna mention Luca spoke about his hamstring
issue and you know, said there's still unsure when he's
going to return to the Lakers, and if they needed
to know, I mean I can help him out with that.
That'll be next year, is when he returns to the Lakers.
You've seen the last of them this year. That's over.
So if you're waiting to see what the timeline looks like,
(30:37):
I would say about October as when you can see
Luca back in a Laker uniform because he ain't playing
the rest of the season, it's over.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So come to terms with that and then we can.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Move on with our lives.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
I think if they make it a series, he comes
back this series. If it's not a competitive series, like
if they get down three to zero, yeah you could
call it a day. But if they somehow some way
grab this one tied up one to one, there's the
(31:08):
pot to me, there's the possibility that you could get
a Luca sighting in Game three or four, a two
to one series lead, doesn't it still can be a
competitive series. So I just think I think for what
it's where kind of you know, kind of playing off
(31:29):
of what Q had to say about Lebron, Do you
not look at this as a golden opportunity to be
a part of making history. Like I think Luca knows
the magnitude and the gravity of the fact that Lebron
is playing his ass off, is fighting at the age
(31:49):
that he is, and he was brought there to replace
Lebron and be the new face of the team and
be the guy that is the franchise that gets you there.
They pulled off the improbable, even though they were the
higher seed. They make it through Houston to get to
the second round of the playoffs and you're playing against
(32:13):
the Juggernut Sga lad Oka see Thunder. If you're telling
me that Luca is not giving it everything he has
to try to get back and participate and be a
part of this series, then why is he a pro?
(32:33):
Why is why is he playing professional ball if he's
not exhausting every single resource and possibility to try to
get back and be a participant on your team, Like
this is your team, You're the franchise, but one of
the goats is on his swan song and you're just
(32:55):
going to be like like, yeah, maybe next year.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
I don't think that Lucas wired that way, or most
athletes are wired that way.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
But I think that there's also the reality that when
he suffered the injury, initially they told him eight weeks
and I think it's been four or five, so he's
still not close to coming back. And when he talks
about being frustrated and wanting to play, I don't doubt
the fact that he wants to play.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
I just don't think he's going to pop.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
And you might be right that that could be as
simple an explanation that he just can't do it. I
don't know if you guys have ever popped a quad
or popped a hamstring. I don't think I have him,
to be honest with you, I popped a hams well,
I pulled a hamstring.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I popped a quad.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
It is a very, very very slow to heal injury. Yeah,
So I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't question the fact
that if he couldn't get back, the relevance of the injury,
I get it. But if you're not trying to get
back with all your might in this moment where you
could be a part of a historical run, I just
(34:03):
don't I don't know why you compete other I mean,
maybe it's just the money.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I don't know, but I don't I don't think that
that's what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Well, there's a lot of perks that come with being
an NBA player, you know, there certainly are. Yeah, it
is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on
by the way, hitting that shoulder like that is it's
perfect form. Like yeah, if you catch if you catch
a person on that balance zone and they don't really
understand what that balance zone like how important.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
It is, it could go really bad for you. The
guy put his head down, he didn't see the contact point.
The guy kept his cool, maintained composure, hit the contact point,
and put him to bid.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
That is how you do it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
And you know what, that wouldn't even get him fined
or penalized because he didn't lead with the head. Shoulder,
that didn't bump heads, didn't.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
He was talking to his girlfriend wife. Friend handed the
phone to the homie. Well, no he didn't, and the
phone he dropped his phone phone. Homie picks the phone up,
hands it back to him. He goes back to the
call like nothing even happened. With the dead body on
the ground.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
In flip flops and flipflops.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
You right, cube, same same leg, same same hand, same leg,
same foot like you right take that drug addicts anchor
that thing down boy, good night.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Uh.
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
Time to find out.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
What's left tons, Incredibles.
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Here's the leftover, Kyla Ray Ray what we got all right?
Speaker 9 (36:40):
We got some decent leftovers here Today news in the
horse racing world, the Kentucky Derby winner Golden Tempo's team
released a statement saying, after much thoughtful discussion as a team,
we have decided that Golden Tempo will bypass the Preakness stake.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh a joke, Goodness, no one cares what the Triple
crowd anymore?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Man, Joe.
Speaker 9 (37:01):
Well, that's the thing. A lot of the fans were
hoping that he would get that Triple crown, but the
Sherry devout Racing believes that the best decision for him
is to give him more time after his tremendous efforts,
and his health and happiness and long term future future
will remain the top priority.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
No one's gonna argue with that.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
But can we be real about this? So they get
three point one million from the purse. That's that's their winnings.
What they take home. I think the jockey gets ten percent,
the trainer gets ten percent, the owner gets eighty percent.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
What people don't realize though, is that horse will make
probably twenty five million in studfees. It'll make more in
just creating the next Golden Tempo then it will actually racing.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, but I mean, you know who wants to sleep
with a quitter? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
He didn't quit quit what they're managing. They're managing him
after he won.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Yeah, I'll manage this. You got two weeks of teen races.
Get in there, lazy ass.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
How long did it used to be between the Derby
and the Preakness? Because they said that they moved it
up and it's gonna make it worse.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Triple Crown is dead.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, just did.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
You're not going to see it again.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I mean, like like there's really no way to have
incentivizing the horses. I mean, even if you made the
purse bigger, it's still not worth it. If it's gonna
impact long term they're ability to stut him ount and
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
I mean, he only knew how much he was.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
He was bitling for that.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh well, let me let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Maybe the three horses that we picked that were scratches,
maybe they can participate in the in the next race.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Maybe they can pick up their game.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
A little bit here. I think we need to pick
more than one horse than stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, upon further review, we do need to pick more
than one.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Yeah. What else we got right?
Speaker 9 (38:58):
Ray, Well, we did mention Brussel will playing with the
bananas well after Spirit Airlines closed the other day.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Big pause, big banana. Oh hey, anyway, so.
Speaker 9 (39:18):
The banana's owner, Yellow Tugs Jesse, posted a reel on
Instagram pointing out that there is an airline with a
bunch of yellow planes available, and he made like that
sus look on his face and he said, why not,
it is our color.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
So now over one.
Speaker 9 (39:32):
Hundred and sixty thousand likes on that specific post.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
But people are wanting banana air.
Speaker 9 (39:36):
They're thinking fun ideas like publicly owned with really good
price options and they would be serving banana splits on
the flights. Just an idea, but you know, I like it.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let's not get past the key part. Can we make
sure the thing's operable, and the flat pilots you can
fly it well. Like I know, Savannah Bananas is all
about the entertainment aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
When I'm on a flame, yeah, just give me for
me to be safely, please.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I could care less about a banana split, color of
the plane, some dudes who are wearing cutoffs dancing around
gyrating their junk. I mean, I could care less about
any of that stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, I bet you are. Of course you are. Wait,
you're out tomorrow. We didn't mean to. You're in onto Bananas.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
I don't have to twist your arm. But she's in
for anybody that's, you know, looking to put banana air
into the sky. I just I don't get the whole.
I know, the Savannah Bananas sell out everywhere.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
I just.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I good for them.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I'm good with regular baseball, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Yeah, I don't get it. Yeah,
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