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May 13, 2026 41 mins

In Hour 3 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington chat with Petros Papadakis on the USC & Notre Dame rivalry. Plus, the guys go for a weird evolution conversation that somehow ties into LeBron vs MJ, we have an all-vacancy edition of The Leftovers, and more!!

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Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's an awful, awful, terrible, It's terrible. It is I
mean that that's not only not in the strike zone,
it's above his head.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, of course, who is this?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Who is this?

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Help?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I don't know, I didn't I knew it was bad
in real time, but then he was so My son
was so pissed that he started it was like tears
of frustration, and I had to go talk to him
and kind of console.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Him a little bit. And then I looked at the
video afterwards, like, oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
God, But did you say to him, Look, you're a
OX and we get dealt.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh yeah, he already knows that used to.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, swing and everything, So you're an OX.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
He's already got one that was too tall and whatever.
Whenever we play baseball. He's got the habit now to
where if he strikes out or anything, he'll go to
his ears to check the review, like, hey, let's check
the headset, like that's his thing.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm like, hey, man, you know you're a OX that
the headset doesn't exist for us. You're just gonna lose,
and God forbid you start gambling. You're really gonna have
a problem. I'm still so bad for him. He was
standing there like there's no way that was like he
was waiting on his ball. Yeah that's sad. Yeah, I
mean right though, Now, would you have been wrong if

(02:16):
you has suplex that that that empire empower. No, I
mean you could you know, if you get to take
care of business man, you know, bad calls man, literally
get here.

Speaker 7 (02:26):
Are you the type of dad that, like, for me,
I can handle. I can handle you screwing my kid once,
Like I can handle it, like, Okay, that's a bad
call or whatever. You let somebody you know, fallum or whatever,
non call. I could let it go. But if it persists,

(02:48):
it's got there's got to there's there's gotta be a conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I just I don't want to be that that parent
that's going to do that. I'd rather just talk to
my son and be like, hey, you know, sometimes things
aren't going to go your way and you got to
move on man, Like you can't worry.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
About it, you know. I subscribe to that.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
I like that perseverance and focus and overcome all all
of the odds. But I just think at that age,
at that little league young level age, you know, you
just gotta you gotta, you gotta advocate for your kid.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
I bet you Petros thread yeah, and I bet you
Petros kick him right in the mouth.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
We welcome in the Great Petros Papadaekus, the co host
of the Petros and Money Show, which you can get
on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA sports Fox college
football analysts get him on Exit the Old p Petro's
good morning.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Petros, Morning, Hello the Old pe. How's it going?

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Hey, if somebody was if there was a referee or
of some sort harassing your kid while they're competing, and
it was clear harassing, yeah, I would call it harassing.
I mean, it probably isn't harassing. Like like, for an instance,
there there was a pitch, the pitch was over to
child's head. Clearly was over to child's head.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I just sent it to you, Petros on your phone,
so I know that'd be tough to see while we're
doing the show.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
But just to give you context, imagine if they just
kept calling strikes on your kid. Your kid is taught
to wait for the strike zone and they're giving you
strikes and you're striking out and if you swung out
that that that type of pitch, you're not going to
hit it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
So the kid is set up. How would you handle that?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Get in the car and leave as soon as possible.
There is there is no like, there is absolutely zero
winning and fighting with umpires and littlely now that's a
very small kid.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Let's see here. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
That's the worst strike call I've ever seen. And if that,
if that kind of thing persists, I guess you you
go to the guy who runs the league and complain
about the umpire. But there is no winning. Whether you
do sports talk radio or you're an ex All American
football player or any there's no winning in saying anything

(05:13):
to anybody in Little League. One of the great things
about Little League, though, when you do sports talk radio
is if some dad or somebody acts like a jackass,
you go and talk on the radio about that person. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about, and humiliates that person when
their behavior is called out because if they hear it,

(05:35):
they're young, well they will because the thirst is real too.
You know, these people are all out there thinking that
their kid is getting a scholarship.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
When he's eight years old. It's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
And baseball is the worst, especially in affluent areas. Yeah,
with white people it's the worst. And I'll tell you why.
I hate to make it racial, but I know when
you walk through the door or I tell you guys
this stuff all the time. If you tell me your
kid is the best football player or a basketball player

(06:06):
from the area, and by the time they get to
be thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, when they walk in the door,
you'd better look the part to a certain degree. You
can't walk in looking just like a normal white kid
and be like, yeah, I bet that kid's the best
football player or basketball player god forbid. Where they only
look normal on a basketball court with other basketball players,

(06:29):
then you better look like you can do it. Baseball
is the one sport where you might not look like
you can do it. You could be a normal like
if you stand neck to Mookie Betts, who's one of
the great athletes, he looks kind of like a normal guy.

(06:49):
Trey Turner, Guys like that, you know, David x Stein.
We think about guys throughout our lives who if not
that Mookie Bets is as small as David x Stein
or anything, but just normal looking guys. Now Freddie Freeman
who I've stood next to, or Otani or guys like
that that you see Puppy, they're huge, Like, those are
big guys. And the competition in baseball is crazier than

(07:13):
even the other sports. People don't realize there's a guy
and the Dominican with no shoes and literally a milk
carton for a glove. Who's one hundred times better than
your white kid. But when you're twelve or eleven, these
dads look at their kid and say, well, he's going
to be like a normal looking kid. But that doesn't
mean he can't be a pro baseball player, because look

(07:35):
at all these other pro baseball players. And in an
affluent area, it's something that you can throw money at. Right.
You can buy the crazy bats, you can get the
bat calibrated, you can shake them to the.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Four hundred dollar bat for a five.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Exactly, and you can do the thing where you like
the bat on fire and take a picture of the kid.
You know, just the stupidest stuff that you could ever imagine.
And it's fun, you know, for the kids, and they
have a good time. I don't have a problem with
it unless the dads go crazy, and then that burns
out the kids by the time they're thirteen. Normally, the
best players when you're really younger are not even close

(08:14):
to being that when they get older, unless it's some
guy with really super hand eye coordination. My point is, yes,
it's a it's as clearly a ball, but and the
only thing you can do is go on the radio
and make people look stupid if you do something in public,
Like I'm in sports and I'm gonna use my sports

(08:34):
voice to say something against this umpire who is obviously
a loser adult hanging around with children in the afternoon,
doesn't have a job. Who's getting you know? I mean,
just leave it alone. That would be mine.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
You said a lot there, Petros, Yeah, please said a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I will say this. I would say soccer's up there
and only for the interest of like the worldwide that
will coup everything else. Like it's it's tough.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's one of the only sports where like the parents
are like, football is like that too, But football you
expect everybody to act like an idiot because in a
lot of.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
Ways it's football.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, but I've had to explain that to a few
of the parents up here in Palas Verdes, California, when
the kids are playing football, like, well, you know, the
other parents are like, yes, this is football, these are
not You're not going to expect the same decorum in football.
But in soccer. It's funny because you know, there's there's
etiquette and all this stuff, and the parents are pretty

(09:30):
far from each other, you know, like on one side
of the field and the other and and they get riled,
like they get get up and they screened.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, you said baseball soccer's pretty intense. And I'll say this,
there's a few weeks ago we played in the tournament
and it was one of those deals where like one
of the dads it was had of been the dad
I can't imagine. This is actually just a guy who
didn't have an actual child playing on the field that
I was coaching, that was this amped up.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
But he was one of those dudes too where he was.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Kind of like wearing all the tight you know, kind
of quarter zip up, you know, tight pants, probably on TRT,
maybe some peptides as well, but just absolutely like yoked
and wanted to walk out there like he just got
done deadlifting.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Five hundred pounds.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And I'm not saying there's other sports where.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
But every time they'd score, he'd go yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
He sounded like the Kool aid man, and yeah, I
bet that people on his side told him that was cool, you.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Know, which, I'm like, this has to be the worst
form of humanity there is. I understand this greater atrocity atrocities.
This has to be close to it, though, if we're
really being honest about it.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, I think people lose, you know, and a lot
of people and even some that do. I mean, when
you're we grew up competing and probably competing longer than
most people playing college football and doing stuff like that.
So hopefully when that happens in your life, you have
a certain amount of perspective when it comes to youth sports,

(11:06):
which was what I'm asking for Jonas to have here
on the strikeout. You want to have perspective and just
kind of, you know, let things go and teach your
kid that, you know, there's always another day to play,
and we can't emotionally make a clown out of ourselves
because something didn't go our way, even though you're a
Knox and this and that. That's fine. But I think

(11:29):
I've noticed a lot of people who have a lot
of respect for who didn't play sports in high school
or maybe really understand that much about sports, and when
their kids start competing, they can't find the perspective that
they could normally find in other avenues of life because

(11:50):
they don't have that experience, and they end up trying
to compete through the kids in a certain way, as
we've seen so much in our lives. I think that's
where that guttural.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know, yeah, it's listen, there's a learning lesson there, So.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Let's all forgiven. I don't like the emphatic strikeout call
when the when the pitch was so bad. There's a
lot to unpacked there, but you can't you can't make
a public thing out of it in the moment on
the radio show where you could attack them.

Speaker 7 (12:27):
I'm gonna handle it there or not, I'm handling it.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Do you feel like maybe there's some sc fence in
Oh yeah, after the news of maybe the rivalry coming
back around in four years from now.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
But do you think maybe they're excited about it?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Uh? You know, I talked about this yesterday a little bit,
and I know I've said a lot about the USC.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Notre Dame thing.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And I mean, speaking of perspective, right, I mean you
are a pretty big representative. I mean you introduced the
coach when he got hired for Notre Dame. Obviously LeVar
the same with Penn State. And I do think I'm
not just washing sack here are scouring balls. But I

(13:11):
do think that you guys both handle yourselves really well
when it comes to criticizing your program, right, I mean,
and pretty well. I mean, you have a pretty good
sense of humor about it. You know. Obviously Penn State
hasn't been able to break through the Notre Dame or
excuse me, the Michigan Ohio State kind of wall in

(13:34):
the Big ten. I think Levar's handled that well. You
can't be on the radio really daily and not be
able to handle it well, I guess. But Brady, you
handle it really well with Notre Dame and have a
good perspective. Obviously you like Notre Dame and support Notre Dame.
But if there's something you don't like, you say that. Now.

(13:55):
I'm not you know, I'm not an x USC Heisman
winner and anything like that, so I have more of
a luxury of saying almost exactly, and it's hurt my
career probably for decades, but I've always pretty much said
exactly how I feel about whatever's happening, especially when it
comes to my alma mater. And I didn't pull any

(14:17):
punches with this Notre Dame thing because I found it
to be so egregious. And it started with Lincoln Riley,
and I don't think if Lincoln Riley was the coach
at USC it would have ever been brought up. He
brought it up, and it was in a moment of
leadership transfer, even the president of the university, in a
moment of change where they're moving to the Big ten,

(14:40):
and their leadership was so weak, and no one was
able to stand up and say, no, this is crazy,
We're not considering this. Leave it exactly like it is,
which would have been my preference. But because that happened,
now we have a situation and I think Notre Dame
is to blame here too to a certain degree, because
these athletic directors, these are buttoned up people's supposed to

(15:03):
be buttoned up people who are in charge of keeping
things under wraps and copasetic. The fact that both sides
are using their media lapdogs. US gets Colin Cowherd to
run out there and say Notre Dame came, call it
crawling back. Notre Dame gets forty to come out there
and say that USC came crawling back. Clearly, it's because

(15:25):
the playoffs are expanding and it's not as scary for
USC to play Notre Dame. It's just sad. It's sad
and embarrassing and a black mark on both sides that
they could not get this done. And I understand that
traditions change, that the sport has changed in our lifetimes rapidly,

(15:46):
and we cover it very closely. I get that you
don't have to tell me that the TV networks own
the rights, and they own the rights to change the sport.
I'm part of that. I've seen it happen. I've been
I've been here for a while. That's fine, all of
that stuff can be true, but this is still a

(16:09):
terribly handled situation on both sides. And yes, I lean
more towards Notre Dame being in the right here. But
this Pete Bavakua guy who got all butt heard about
the and did a whole giant parade about how he
got upset about the Twitter guy for the acc Like,

(16:29):
I mean, how petty is this guy? You know? I mean,
he's the one going back and forth with USC. It's embarrassing.
It should have never gotten this far. And I'm glad
they're talking about it, because you can't have a game
if you don't talk about it. But it's still ridiculous,
and it's still It's still a terrible embarrassment for both sides,
but more so for USC.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I think, good jot.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, do you think that there is Why do
you think all of a sudden they've come is?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I told you because the playoffs are going to expand,
and because of people like me, right or my ilk. Look,
every time USC tweets anything, fifty or sixty people tweet,
you guys are peace you know what I mean? Like
you scared to play? You guys are cowards? Right, I

(17:22):
would say it, but I don't want to wake everybody
up in the control room right now, Okay, I think
USC got tired of being called scared. I think that
the backlash was a little bit more than they expected.
And I think an expanding playoff. I mean, what bothers
me so much about it is nobody at USC who

(17:43):
is anything that anybody remembers, all the way back to
Craig Ferdig Marcus Allen, Anthony Munioz, like any of these people,
They're not the same football legend if they didn't play
Notre Dame and all the way to people that are
carrying the university's water. Right now, Matt Liiner, people like

(18:07):
that you are who you are because you had the
opportunity to play Notre Dame. And the fact that you'll
so easily dismiss that for a whole future generation, I
think says a lot about how malleable these people are
when they get called out on maybe having to lose
their access to the university real quick before. USC should

(18:32):
be about and always has been about national championships and
Heisman trophies, and the bronze medal on that podium is
playing Notre Dame. It's the third most important thing about
USC football. And so it's a true travesty that this
has gone as far as it has.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Those are my feelings.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
I'm sorry, no, and I think we're making the point
this week to where when you have people who are
legends of USC coming out defending the program, thought it
was Look, I know that you've got to adapt when
it comes to sports in general, that traditions, you know,
some traditions just aren't the same anymore.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
It's adapt or die.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I get all that, but there are some traditions that
you've got to protect. You just have to because that's
what the sport is built on. And so to think
that there's going to be entire recruiting classes. If this
doesn't come back till twenty thirty th the earliest, there's
going to be entire recruiting classes that have no idea
what this rivalry is, don't won't know anything about it.

(19:29):
And I can say this, and Patricks, you know this
growing up out here. The USC UCLA rivalry, it's cool.
It's not even close to the USC Notre Dame rivalry.
Not even close.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean, I wouldn't say playing in it, I wouldn't
say that. I'd say it's not the same. It's just
not the same. There's a totally different vibe. There's space
for both of them, and that's what makes USC so great,
or what made USC football so special in town. I
know a lot of stuff has changed, but I agree

(20:02):
with you. If you're the athletic director at Notre Dame,
I don't care what else you accomplished. It's a terrible
thing if under your watch the USC.

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Rivalry ended for four years, and.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
The same thing for for USC. Even more so, I
believe for USC because they have more of a responsibility
to uphold it, because they're the one that's in a
conference and they're the ones that have to sacrifice and
the whole thing bothers me, as you guys can tell
to no end. But the fact that USC people would

(20:37):
defend this at all is only because they've been asked
to defend it by USC, and if they don't, they're
scared that they'll lose their access or their royal status.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
It feels like a pr campaign. It feels a bought behavior.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
On the correct and now we have that on both sides,
with everybody pointing fingers and until they stop doing that, Like, guys,
the only guarantee is that they're not going to play
for the next four years or at least this year.
Like that's the only guarantee. There's no guarantee this is
coming back.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I can see.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
I honestly understand the arguments for both sides.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Like in today's day and asia college football, everyone kind
of says, well, hey, everything's changed, Why can't Notre Dame
join a conference?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
And I've tried to give people the historical reason as to.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Why why Because they don't have to That's why.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
There's there's that simple answer.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
There's also somebody will pay you not to be in
a conference and give you your own TV deal. Not
one of these other teams would say no, no, we
want to still be in our conference. It's the dumbest
thing in the world. It's like saying, well, I live
in this giant mansion, but just because everybody else lives
in a tenement, I'm going to leave the mansion. Why.

(21:46):
That's who they are. And so they've always been they
had their own TV deal.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And you're right, and there's other reasons to it. But
but that for the most part plays a role. And look,
we've been a changing landscape where maybe you're going to
see depend on how these the media rights and it
being pulled together.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
If they're not how that all handles itself, it's just
it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
We got to transition to the Lakers being swept in
four Uh, you don't have to talk about Lebron at
least for the time being.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
For the foreseeable future.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's going to do all kinds of different stuff to
get himself involved.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
He I was gonna say, how do.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
You feel to not be bent over a barrel at
least for the meantime until you have to talk about
something else.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Being nailed by the king.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
We do have now a Lebron Watch sounder where it
has the nailed by the King sound and where the
end of it goes. You know, it's like a real
It's very exciting.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Look, I think that. I think the Lakers last year
in the summer without Lebron right took Luka Doncic on
a special date to the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere,
which is the equivalent of like taking.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
Your girlfriend to Paris.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Right, And what most people believe is in that meeting,
they told him one more year with.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Lebron and then that's it.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Trust us, and he agreed and signed the extension and
all that, and that's what a lot of people believe happened.
I don't know if that happened or not. I mean,
the future will tell its tail. But I mean whether
Lebron you think he's spectacular at forty one, or you're
annoyed by him, or you think he's a terrible example

(23:28):
for their professional sports maybe like I do. Either way,
the Lakers can't really compete with him on the roster.
He cost fifty million bucks, he doesn't take discounts, he can't.
It just doesn't work. We've seen it for years and
it just doesn't work. I'm glad that they beat Houston

(23:48):
and that there was a media campaign to talk about
how great he was because they beat Houston and they
got something out of that. But I do think it's
over unless he takes some kind of discounter. But I
don't think Luca Daunchitz would go for that.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I think everybody is over it and they need to
find a way to save face and get him to
move on. But it'll be very awkward in a very
interesting summer. But I my guess is that somewhere in between,
you know, I never want to hear you say, somewhere
in there, they told Luca that he's not going to

(24:26):
have to deal with Lebron past twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
Six, get him on X the old Get That Way.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Money Show.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I never felt I've never felt there. And we were
walking warming up at Washington State and Pull and Pullman
on Martin at Martin Stadium, and they were playing Backstreets back,
back Streets back, all right, and I know I just
remember like dance and around, you know, doing warm up,
and I was like, oh my god, I'm dancing to

(25:04):
the Backstreet Boys? Am I gay? Already? Greek?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
That's what you'll have a statue up next?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah? Did they did? They say, you guys invented sex.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Right, We're just the first to write down sodomy. Just
because of our literacy, we get tagged when well, it's
not always great to be the smartest guys out there,
you know.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
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Speaker 2 (26:39):
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Speaker 10 (26:40):
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Speaker 3 (27:02):
You have that to look forward to as they get bigger.
That was a lot going on there.

Speaker 7 (27:09):
Hey, my son's talking like a dummy right now, and
I had to let him know, don't be a dummy.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
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Speaker 7 (27:24):
No, Yeah, just guys being guys, and he just happens
to be my son.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I think the conversation turned with the t rex got
brought in.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
It's so dumb. It was such a dumb argument. It's
such a dumb argument.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
But Grady, I can't explain it. I don't know what happened.
I don't know what even what it was about. They
just started arguing. He's arguing evolution, Like it wasn't you
It was not very complicated. It's just he's arguing evolution.
He's basically saying evolution.

Speaker 7 (27:57):
Says that Lebron James is better than Michael Jordan and
it's not even close, like it's not even up for debate,
and Wimby is better than better than all of them.
I said, you're a dummy, And he said, it's law
of evolution, and and and he makes good points, like
it's a valid point, but it's still you know, he's

(28:17):
still a dummy for saying it. That's all I'll say.
He said, if you have a t Rex and a
stealth bomber blows away a t Rex's what's crazier the
t Rex being a t Rex you see in a
t Rex, or the stealth bomber blowing the t Rex away.
And I said, that's a dumb argument. Isn't that a
dumb argument?

Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yeah, I'm not really sure when I was do with
the other.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
I mean, well, he's basically saying evolution leads to there
being a person that made a stealth bomber that would
destroy a t I.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Would also say that also as a t Rex. YEP,
I get it, but that also highlights Free while the
argument is stupid in the first place, because those are
two different eras of you know, history if you will
or whatever.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
So if you're looking.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
At the most dominant apex preda at that time, yeah,
it was a t rex to say that, like, you know, again,
the stealth bombers the most dominant. Okay, like I get
it to humans of all, et cetera. But it just
highlights the fact that you really can't compare the two.
And that's the whole point is whenever we have these
arguments about who's better, Jordan or Lebron, it's like, dude,
they played in different eras of basketball, Like, it's just

(29:23):
it is what it is. Like, if you want to
waste time arguing about it, so be it. You know,
I heard an argument, dude, if you go down the
rabbit hole, you'll find so many crazy things out there.
And I believe it was Rich Paul making an argument
that both Kobe and Jordan.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
Came from two parent homes, so.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's why they have this like like killer gene or
selfish gene in them though, it's why they want to
shot all the stuff, and that Lebron didn't and so
his perspective and his the way he plays is different
because he came from a single parent home and that's
played a role in even how he plays basketball. And
that could all well and be true, But again I

(30:06):
go back to the initial point of what are we
doing here?

Speaker 7 (30:10):
Why are we arguing two parent home? Did you Magic
grew up in a two two parent home? He definitely
played the same type of game he wanted to do
this this this continues.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
To highlight, like why the argument is so dumb is
people are just gonna use whatever they have at their
disposable to try to make their point. What in reality
they just you can't compare the two. It's different eras
different players. Like why are we wasting our time on this?
This is just smart people? If smart people, especially with

(30:42):
the access you have to information and technology and everything else,
like figure out a cure for cancer, like figure out
other stuff? Why are we wasting time on a debate
about Lebron and Jordan?

Speaker 4 (30:52):
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Speaker 7 (31:07):
There are some things that are just not explainable, and
it transcends time, It transcends.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Evolution.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
A guy like Bo Jackson, it's transcend, It transcends errors.
His fast and his athleticism, it's like one of the
most gifted and amazing athletes. That's not going to change,
not today, tomorrow or yesterday. It's just not It's just
not going to change. Dion Sanders, that's not going to change.

(31:38):
You're not going to see what those guys were Michael
Jackson as a performer, You're not going to see that talent.
Like I don't care how good like people get or
how good technology gets.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
There's just Mike Tyson.

Speaker 7 (31:52):
You're not going to see a boxer house that that
was able to do the things that he did when
he was in his prime. There's just certain there are
certain guys that they just transcend time. And Michael Jordan
is one of those guys. I'm not I wasn't even
making the discussion point that he's like better than Lebron.

(32:14):
I was just basically saying, like mj is the goats.
That's why I hit him with it.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You know what it was? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
Yeah, I did, because I sent that that video of
MJ throwing Lebron James in the trash like I sent
him that. I thought it was funny, but it erupted,
and it erupted into him going into defense mode and
saying that all old people emotionally support Michael Jordan. They
don't use logic and sound reasoning, they use emotions. And

(32:44):
I'm like, I'm I don't see it as being emotions
because there are other guys from the past that you
could debate are the greatest basketball players of all time
if we're just talking taking emotion out of it, looking
at what what the accomplishments were, you could look at
other players and say greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
If that's what the argument was.

Speaker 7 (33:05):
I'm just saying MJ transcends time and evolution.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
It just is.

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Yeah, it's different times, different era, but Michael Jordan would
still be Michael Jordan today. That's like to me, that's
and if you never got the opportunity to see the
man play, it's sad like if you didn't get an
opportunity to see Barry Sanders play, Barry Sanders would be
just as good in today's NFL as he was, and

(33:33):
he might be better. He might be better just based
on how the offensive sets are and different things like that.
I just there's certain guys that you just can't. You
got to take logic out of it, and you just
have to look at it as they were blessed by
the hand of God himself and they just happened to
be the person that was chosen.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Like, you can't use evolution for it. You just can't.
Not from my assumation, you can't do it. That's all
the songs. By the way, there's a follow up to this.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
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(34:22):
program a couple of days ago. And who's the artist?
It's reggae, right, but who's the art? Okay, I believe,
so I said, And I wasn't trying to be a
wise ass. I said, hey, for anybody listening in Jamaica
right now, we appreciate you, and kind of give him.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
A shout out.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Michelle reached out on social media she listens to the
show every day in Jamaica.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
She heard the shout out.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
So we are represented globally here, all right, this is
not just all right, So we got to be ki Yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:58):
Oh gosh, that's a funny thing. It's like certain places,
like if you hear London England, like you got to
start trying to speak London like London England type of deal.
When you hear Jamaica, the first thing people do is
start trying to speak like a Jamaican. It's kind of
interesting if they're both, because Leon Edwards. It's interesting because

(35:20):
a lot of them, a lot of yeah, yeah, British Jamaican. Yeah, well,
it's from the Crown. You know, it wasn't Jamaica under
the Crown. I believe they were a part of the Crown.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Patrickson know that, not me. Yeah, well, I think I
would know it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Well.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Vic darchinyan former boxer, he is Armenian but lived in Australia.
So imagine getting an Armo and an Aussi all in one.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
So there's a lot of I want to say, the
Caribbean as a whole was under the rule of the
roy of the British Crown. I want to say, what.

Speaker 6 (35:57):
Do I know?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
I mean my wife's mix again, I have no idea
I'll put.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
It in all right, so wrong Pa, coming up next here,
coming up next here.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
That wouldn't be the first time you heard me say that.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Ave on Mexico.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, coming up next here, we are going to close
up shop with another edition of The Leftovers right here
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
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Speaker 4 (36:31):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We're
gonna be back on there tomorrow, same time, same place,
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific for a Thursday
edition of the show.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Before we get to The Leftover Zoe.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
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Speaker 2 (37:02):
Time to find out what's left Town's incredible. Here's the
left Open.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Sorry, Laray Ray, what we got?

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Well?

Speaker 11 (37:11):
I just saw this on the news this morning. The
World Cup is coming to the United States and to
La specifically, but we're not sure if the fans are
because hotels are not filling up as expected. Eighty percent
of the hotels are reporting low bookings. Initial turnout expectations
were super high, and the hotels were raising the prices
by three hundred percent, so a lot of rooms were

(37:32):
going for over one thousand dollars apiece. They have dropped
by over three hundred percent, by over forty percent now
from their peak, just trying to fill rooms.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
It's called price gouging.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's ridiculous, man Like I understand it's a big time
world event. There's high expectations, but as Jonah said, sometimes
it's not so bad just to be sit back on
your couch, open up a beer, and kick your feet up,
man and watch the game.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
There one thousand dollars a night, a night for didn't
watch soccer.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
It's a greater sport in the world. Yeah, yeah, sure.

Speaker 11 (38:13):
I mean people aren't even booking concert tickets right now.
Did you guys see all the different concerts that have
been canceled?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Well one hundred, yeah, I mean there's a lot of people.

Speaker 11 (38:20):
No one spending money, just no one spending money right now.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
Spending money because it's too damn expensive.

Speaker 10 (38:27):
Me.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Hell, you guys put it over the other night. It's like,
and I hate to call it Chappole. I'm a huge
Chapole fan, but you're expensive, dude. When I was young,
and this is like back in high school, so like
early two thousands, you're telling me twenty years of brito
goes from costing five bucks to like twenty two dollars?
Is it twenty two dollars for burrito bro for the
same burrito I used to get back then, if you

(38:50):
get extra chicken or extra meat, on that stuff in
a little little guak which they add on throwing an
extra on the price.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Yeah, it's expensive as hell.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
I've been trying to tell you a little walk.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Hey, you want some Daddy's walk.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
It's free. Almost sounds great. I almost didn't bring that
up because I was afraid that.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Right now, listen, now, I'll go to Dublin. Right now, Daddy,
you must got some Greek.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Jonah, you've got some Greek in you, man.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Dad, Daddy, splat what he's talking about? That chili was that?
That looked like splat? Incredible.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
You need like a better bass. It looked almost like
a soup.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
It was a splat.

Speaker 11 (39:35):
Come okay, we got some more news here. Congratulations to
Lamello Ball and his partner Anna Montana Hannah. Yeah, they're
not married, they're just partners. Anna Montana con star. No,
I don't think so. Anyways, they welcomed their first baby
to the world, and with a new baby, they also

(39:56):
welcomed a new nonprofit initiative called I Am Fertility, an
organization whose goal is to support women navigating IVF and
fertility issues, and it's including a financial aid opportunity called
the Hope Grant and they're taking applications for you know,
moms who are attempting to conceive until yeah, good.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
Okay, they're helping people out. It's good. Okay, did you
want us to go more and death on that?

Speaker 11 (40:23):
Because I know I can move on to the next
one too. You're gonna love this one. I know how
much you guys love bananas, and you know banana ball,
it's my thing.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Well, dancing with the stars, don't tell me dance with
the stars doing this now too?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Well.

Speaker 11 (40:39):
They they've announced their third star that they're taking and
they are taking Savannah Bananas infield.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Jackson to be selected.

Speaker 11 (40:49):
So that's exciting.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
This is the baseball version of the WWE. It really is,
It really is.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
There's so many good baseball players out there right now, and.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yes they're absolute stars, like talented.

Speaker 11 (41:02):
But they have two million followers on TikTok exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
That's there. You go, right there, right there.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
I'm gonna impose a ten dollars fine of myself. I'm out.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I feel like this should have been good bet and
the ugly too. Oh
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