August 7, 2026 • 40 mins
In Hour 3 of the show, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington go in depth on the players in the Hall of Fame Game such as Carson Beck and Haynes King balling out. Plus, the guys delve into Jason Licht's comments on Baker Mayfield and Vita Vea, Odell Beckham Jr impressing at Giants camp, we have a scammer edition of The Leftovers, and more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you
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way up until the end of this hour nine am
Eastern time six o'clock Pacific, and if you're listening on
the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. Obviously, some football
last night, fun little Hall of Fame game. The star
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of the show was Haines King, who delivered the game
winning touchdown run. A lot of people are big fans
of King James. I'm a big chef King Haynes, so
we will we will celebrate him. Carson Beck performed well,
A lot of people big fans.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He was start of the game. Yeah, I guess, you know, yeah,
he's something that's for his strikingly good looks and all that.
I guess, Hey.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Man, coach LaForce said he's been that's what he's been
looking like in practice. He said, what you saw in
the game is what he's been seeing. So you know,
they gave to Kobe Brissett. The deal doesn't mean Carson
Bett can't eventually become the guy.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Is starting to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So, I mean, can I just say this, Jacoby Brissett
was sitting over there on that bench and looking like
somebody's you know, somebody's uncle at the at the family
reunion that was waiting on his plate. Man. But I
just would not I would not be comfortable pulling up.
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I'm a vet starting quarterback card I wouldn't use it.
And that's the first thing I thought. I like saw
him sitting there, and I'm like, man, Bro, like you're
just now getting your extension or whatever, like Bro, get
one series in. Do not allow for yourself to be
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sat out, because in some cases you can look at
it truly as we're resting our vets, were resting our
old heads. In some cases that is very true. They're
protecting their vets. In some cases, it's just it's just
a slight start to a phase out. It's just a
slight understanding or maybe a making it clear that you're
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not the future of this team. And then you have
a player go out there and show out the way
that Beck did. He had to have been sitting there, like, man,
maybe I should have suited up. Maybe I should have
took some reps just to make sure that they know that.
You know, like, I'm the guy for now.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
You ask this, though, what's the up side of that
for him.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Going out there, he's already the guy, maybe maintaining his
job a little bit longer than what he might originally.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I don't I already got paid I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't believe that a team next to a guy
and goes Hey played. You know, Beck played great, Like
the coach came out and said, this is what he's
been doing in practice. So think about that, they've been
watching this in practice.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But you got layers Q, you know that people some
players like, but all Americans.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It doesn't change the point of the game. Okay, but
you're not hearing me. It doesn't change the point of
fact that they've been watching this, they've been seeing this.
They still paid Jacoby, they still did the deal. So
none of what you're saying matters, because whatever you thought
of last night, just because Carson Beck played and played
well and Jacoby didn't play, it doesn't matter. They already
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paid him, like they already made this decision by based
on everything they've saw scene.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It matters what I'm saying. For one, because it's coming
from me. That that makes it matter, like immediately upon
even a point being made is that it just came
from me. So I agree, really right, thank you. Secondly,
I'm going to push back on that because you guys
can say he's already gotten paid, and I understand that.
I agree with you one hundred percent on the fact
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that you know what wind loser draw. He already got paid.
That's fine. But if I'm a competitor, if this thing
means something to me, and just getting paid and sitting
on the sideline, which is something I've had to get
used to doing, and I get an opportunity to be
a starter, maybe starting matters more. Maybe it does. And
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I understand the whole we've been seeing this from Beck.
I get that, but this was the first time they
seen him in a real game situation where he's not
protected by the whistles as much he is, but not
as much, and you get to see if he can
handle the lights and if he can handle being a
quarterback in the National Football League. And for what it's worth,
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in the first preseason game of the year, I think
anybody who watched the game came away with the idea
and the notion that Carson Beck can play in the league.
That to me, if if I'm Jacoby Brissett, if y'all
want to approach it the way y'all say, oh, he's
paid already, Oh, they feel good about it anyway, they
saw him in practice, So it don't matter. I got
my job. I don't think Jacoby Brissette is secure enough
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in a job, in the position of being a starter
to take an approach.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Here's the last stand to point out is now, are
you going to start behind the second offensive line?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Is that what you want him to do?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The starting offensive line for Arizona didn't start, So do
you want him to go out there behind the backups?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean that's a great point. I mean, if you
throw that from if you throw.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
That and then you'll notice that it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like if he's got the starting job already, they've paid
him fifteen point five this week ago guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, all right, all right, it's like that you want
to get to week one.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Week One's what matter is, right, Like, if he's going
to hit what he can earn, like he needs to
get the week one healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I'll take that. I'll take if they sat all the
starters out, they sat his line out and he didn't
go in, I get that.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I also think that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I also think that he's going Carson Beck's going to
get an opportunity to start this year, like if he's
held Because it's similar to the the Chadoor Deshaun Watson discussion.
Where Deshaun Watson's going to get the first go because
they paid him. But at some point, if it goes
sideways and you know there's no long term future with
Jacoby Brissett or Deshaun Watson or filling the blink of
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other veteran quarterback, yeah, they'll let Carson Beck, you know,
run the show for a little bit here.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Why not.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
So hey, he'll get his opportunity and uh and they'll
probably be in the market to draft a quarterback next.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Year anyway, So you know, it's too bad, Bud.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
He had a good first performance, him and Haines King,
you know, balling out on Thursday Night football in the
Hall of.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Fame game Carson Beck. That's all them say. I think
we might have saw something. We might look back on
this performance five six years from now and be like,
y'all remember when y'all was joking around about Well, they've
been saying they've been seeing this, and you know, I mean,
I guess it would lend to the point of him
having a great career if they've been seeing it. But
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sticks picks, Carson Beck might be that guy. Hell, he
might be that guy. Bro. He is fearless as hell,
that dude was slinging that thing. He would deal it down.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Put that bron smoke it, Brady Hey.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
When he when he sat that ball in there on
that on that sideline route and sat it in there
early enough, like on point where the cat catch the
ball and get itself ready to take the big hit
that he took. He didn't just hang him out there
like it wasn't where he had to like go reach
for it. And it became like one of them scary
movement hits, like he put that ball on that man's
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hands with him have enough time to actually take the
big hit that that came his way. I was impressed.
I ain't gonna lie I did. I did not want
to see anything that was entertaining in a preseason game
because I was out. I was getting me a cheese
state and it was good, and I was drinking my
modello and my long Island. I double fisted last night.
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And I'm just trying to say I was not trying
to be as entertained. I'm telling you they had to
sound up on the game. When I heard collins Worth,
I told the owner, because this won my little small
water wait.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Boy, way, what calls it a sound like Jonas.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean, I gotta tell you, watching Carson Beck, you
talk to Mike Lafleur and he speaks glowingly about it,
and then you see like just zips it right in there.
I mean, he's got the arm, he's got the ability.
I'm telling you you gotta watch out for this Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's pretty good. But if you had to turn it
up a little bit. Though. He had the volume up
on his voice last night and I had we had
to turn him down and turn the music up. It
was Line Dan's Thursday yesterday. I just gotta tell you, man,
I just I don't know. He just turned me like.
I was like, you can't be this excited about a
preseason game, man, you can't. I'm sorry, but he was,
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and I ain't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Hey, I commend him, you know, all right, I commend him.
Man's that's somebody who wants to give it the same
treatment you would give a regular season game or a
playoff game.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And he did it. And you're right, and you I mean,
I get it, You're right. I'm probably wrong for my
stance on it. You're You're one hundred percent right. He
should give it the same energy. You're right, and you
know what, I get the same energy, and so does
the Nissan Frontier. Just so y'all know, I just wanted
to make sure y'all understand I respect the pickup. A
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good pickup, A well built pickup that gets the job
done without making the fuss. That's the Nissan Frontier. I
throw my cowboy hat on and go do line dancing
on Thursdays because I can get there for truck that's
built for my work week, but loads me up and
gets me ready for my weekends. That's the Nissan twenty
twenty six front Tier. All right, So let's let's have
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this conversation.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Jason Light, the GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he's
got a couple of issues. One of them is Vita Vea.
The other is Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield wanted a long
term deal done before training camp. It didn't get done,
and so he had comments, I believe last week about
it not getting done and says he's going to ball
out and the price tag is only going to go up,
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so on and so forth. So Jason Light, the GM,
spoke yesterday at training camp and he talked about the
negotiations with Baker and then also the potential of the
franchise tag next year.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Well, I'm not going to get in specifics about the
contract and all that stuff, but yeah, we do think
he is, and we love Baker. Our feelings for Baker
haven't changed.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You know, the franchise tag is a tool.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's an option. It's not you know, some necessarily something
you want to plan on doing, but you have to
in this business. You have to plan on things. You know,
one hundred different things can go one hundred different directions.
But it is an option and we could plan and
we could do it.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So franchise quarterback he thinks he is, and potentially they're
gonna get the franchise tag.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I mean, I don't see him going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, i'd like I think, you know that this
does feel like it's headed towards the potential of you know,
him sticking around, uh maybe next year and they tag him.
I just don't know why they would would turn unless
this year just goes awful and they've got an opportunity
to draft their quarterback of the future. I don't know
why you would go any other direction than try to
keep Baker, you know, for at least another year.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
If go, yeah, go ahead, got got. I was just
going to say, I was just going to say, why
would you make a commitment like that knowing that the
potential of having a nuke staff is looming? I think
that that's what makes it such a tough spot to
be in, is that how do you make a decision
on your quarterback if you don't know what you're going
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to do with your coach? That, to me is the
reason why it's now. The veya part is that's I
don't know, you know, they got to work that one out.
But as it applies to your quarterback, if you're going
into a situation like you just explained Jonas where they're
not having a good season and they're failing, then you
got to assume that they're probably going to go in
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a different direction with a coaching staff. If they're going
to go in a different direction with a coaching staff,
why would you lock a quarterback into a long term
deal when you bring in a different coach? What now
you got to talk to that you have a specific
group of coaches as like, yeah, you know, we can
work with Baker, we can we can try to make
it work with him, versus well, you're at the end
of his contract anyway, So let's just start anew. Let
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him bring in the quarterback he wants to bring in.
I think that that would be the most sensible approach.
And knowing that you're in that position, then you got
to let this season play out to see if you're
going to keep the coaching staff and if now it
becomes a conversation once that falls in place with the coach,
now it falls in place to to do we go
different direction with the quarterback or do we keep keeping
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And that's going to come with the coach and the GM.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I don't know just why you're trying to fire Todd
Bowles all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'm not trying to fire him. I'm not trying to
fire I'm just telling you how I see it.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
No, and I can see that. I definitely can see that.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I just I think it feels like they're holding down
the four because because what's hoteple.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're looking behind the scenes. His ownership and ownership might
be seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Themselves like, look, guys, we've got a great girl draft
class next year.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We we love Baker, we feel good about Baker, but
let's look at where he's at in his career where
we're at, and are we willing to really commit to
him in this major capacity like he wants when we
didn't feel necessarily great about how he played last year,
regardless of the injuries and so forth, because because.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
That's gonna be their argument, and they're just gonna say, look.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like, if we feel like he's we've maybe seen his
ceiling and he's not gonna be able to get back
to those numbers, he's not gonna be able to get
back to that, then we I'm not sure we want to,
you know, exert our ourselves this season. And if he's
gonna take this hard stance that he's kind of giving
us an out like I would be willing to bet
the Glazer families having similar conversations to that. And on
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the flip side, you know, look, Baker's.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
An emotional guy. He plays that way.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think how things have been handled from a business
perspective in the past, whether it's with Cleveland or now Tampa.
He's very upfront, he's very open about it, and you know,
he's the type of guy that that lets that play
a factor. And I was I'm hoping for his sake
that they can still give him the deal he wants
or he'll accept in the next couple of weeks before
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the season, even though he set that fictitious deadline and
now he seems intent on just playing out the year.
It's just odd, like if they if they offered you
what you want ultimately or maybe not as long, but
you know, one hundred million dollars, like you're gonna say
no to a guaranteed one hundred million dollars at signing.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
That just it seems tough to turn out.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So my whole thing is it feels like between his situation,
Vida Veya, Mike Evans moving on, that this team is
in a bit of a state of flux because they're
not sure if they're going to be rebuilding with a
rookie quarterback next year or continuing on with Baker. And
here's the only thing I'd say about this that gets
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lost oftentimes.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
When these negotiations.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Get public and they don't go the way the player
necessarily wants, is there are some teams who will be
happy to have Baker prove them wrong. And I mean,
Jerry Jones did this with Dak Prescott, and he Dak
Prescott was able to cash in on it. But there
are some teams.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And ownership groups that are like, hey, man, go prove
me wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
If you don't like the deal we've offered you what
we thought was fair, go out there, play well, prove
us wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
We'll put the franchise tag.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That will give us more time to negotiate a mega
deal for you, and we'll go from there. Like there
are some organizations that are okay and doing that, or
they have no issue doing that, like we talked earlier
this week about the Bejon Robinson contract, And there's some
teams that don't want to set a precedent of doing
a new deal with two years left on a deal
because they look at that and they say, well, then
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every single agent and every single player that has two
years left on his deal, if he has a good year,
is going to say pay me more and I we'll
go back to what we just did this deal a
couple of years ago or a few years ago, like
you still are under contract, Like I'm really happy for you,
but until we get closer to you actually being able
to leave, like.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
We're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So that's the part part of the conversation is you know,
once you set a precedent from an ownership group or
an agent. It then sets the tone for every other
agent and player after that. And I think I think
the tough part for where Tampa's at is you kind
of already saw the running on the wall with Mike
Evans leaving, and now we're seeing it with the Vida Vay.
In that situation, what is agent set out He doesn't
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see really a path forward, but a trade again could
be just posturing, but at the end of the day,
that's what's becoming public and with Baker something kind of similar.
So I look at this and say, I feel like
this bodes poorly for this upcoming season because if things don't.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Get off to a good start.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
To your point, LeVar, like Todd Bowles, how he's viewed
amongst the fan base, how he's viewed amongst ownership, he
could be on the hot seat. And then obviously Baker,
you know, they might be looking at him saying like, yeah,
we'd just rather start over, and we were going to
be a position to draft someone that we can start
over with. Based on al Tala, the next year's draft
class is going to be at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
My problem is I've got just a bad feeling about
Tampa this year, but in that division, a bad feeling
could still win need a division. So, like, I don't know,
it's just it feels like one of those you could
see an eight, nine, nine and eighteam win the division
there and and I don't know who else would be
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a potential threat, whether it's Carolina or you know, whether
Atlanta figures things out because they've got their own quarterback
issues and whatnot. I just I don't know if something
feels off there with the Bucks, but you know we will.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Uh something feels off about the NFC South, Yeah, sure does, man,
all of it.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That whole division can use some botox. Just like, do
whatever you need to do to pretty it up. There's
enough enough here.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You'll be careful. Sometimes you put too much Botchelo's in
your forehead. Then then you end up looking like a
plastic doll at twenty five.
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Like that, say like that doing it? Both of them.
That's one word, both of them, bo foe, both of them,
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apparently Odell Beckham Junior is performing well in training camp
with the New York Giants, and he spoke about his
(21:32):
development and spoke about where he was at this stage
of his career yesterday.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
I'm just trying to be president. Each and every day,
I prove to myself that I am who I know
I am. Everybody likes to talk about the old is
he going to be this ad? And I'm like, you know,
Levin James used to take off before the free throw line,
and now if he's taking off with his foot right
in front of it, he's still got a different game,
but he's still playing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I believe that I can play at a high level.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I know that there's the popularity from that catch he had,
and he had a really good start to his career.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
But I don't. I don't get the.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Hey man, Obj's back stuff, Like I don't you know,
the Lebron James comparison.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I just don't. It's been a really really long time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That did it for you, Lebron James, it for you.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Like I don't understand why there's still any sort of like, hey,
we'll give it a shot. But it's like you see
these reports come out like OBJ and pressing it camp Obj,
Like why, like is this all just because he was
popular back in the day and this just continues on.
It's like the Josh Gordon discussion years ago, where it's
(22:43):
like man Nate, Josh Gordon, Josh Gor It's like.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, yeah, he had that one year.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But it's been a long time and for whatever reason,
it's still a topic of conversation. I don't understand, like
he hasn't, Like it's been a really long time since
you've seen anything that's even close to what OBJ wants
in his prime, and yet there's still some hope that
he's going to get back to that point, And I
just don't know where that comes from.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well, you have to have that hope, right, you have
to have that like kind of confidence or crazy irrational
thought that people on the outside don't have, otherwise you'll
never go to accomplish it.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I mean, that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Like for all those guys who played last night, there's
probably some people who told them in their life they
would never be able to make the NFL. There's probably
some coaches, people who doubted them, teachers or who knows
opponents who doubted them. They have to think different. You
have to think in a very crazy, unique way that
you're going to be able to beat the odds because
the odds are without a doubt against you. So it
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doesn't matter if it's you know, Odell Beckham Junior, you
know at this point staged in his career, after injuries, everything.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Else, or any of those young guys last night or.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Other guys who are trying to make a team right now.
You know, their mindset is just it's different, Like it
can't be like the normal person who's going to say, well,
you know, like only about three percent of guys we're
able to make Like you can't dive into that stuff
because if you do, you'll be consumed with the negativity.
You'll be consumed with everything that you know, people at
the pro level do and they point out what you
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can do, or what you're not or what you don't
still have anymore. So he's he's got to stay in
this kind of, you know, blinders on mode of not
listening to anything of the noise the outside and and
just focus on how he can get back to the
best version of himself again, because when he was at
his top of his game, he was a hell of
a player.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
He was a difference maker.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
OBJ plays the game and he fits his role within
the reality TV show And sometimes it's not about how
good you are talent wise, it's about how you entertain
the audience. What what audience have you created and what
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what community have you grown during your time? He had
a cult like moment. He had a cult classic moment
in sports history. It made him a cult following hero.
And in a time where being an influencer and leveraging
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social media and using it as a tool, there are
very few people who did it better than Obj. He
captured our imaginations with doing the acrobatics in football. You
want to know how influential OBJ is or was, Imagine
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Chris Carter. Guys like Chris Carter, guys like Randy Moss
were snagging one hand grabs for years, for years, and
we just said they had good hands. Oh that was
a great catch, good catch, Dot da da Obj did it,
and he totally revolutionized, evolutionized how receivers would go about grabbing,
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grabbing catches. It's like you try to find the style
and the pizzazz and and the excitement connected to the
way Obj caught that pass and then after the way
he caught passes after his style points were phenomenal. And
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so to me, when you look at him, it's not
about seeing if he it's you know what it is.
It's like the Mike Tyson effect, Like there ain't no
reason why even if you thought for two seconds he
was going to beat up Jake Paul in that fight
for two seconds the minute he interviewed with his son,
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and that man walked off with a black knee brace
and his ass and a black match in jockstrap with
that ass show, and you should have tuned out. You
should have to. Well, here's the thing, but much like
Mike Tyson, in your mind, you still felt like that
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catch can still happen.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Okay, but well that toe.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Tap swag, that one handed grab, it can still happen,
and you want to watch to see if he can
still do it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Hey. And by the way, by the way, just for
the record, you know who was on the call when
that catch was made.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Chris Collinsworth. I just want to say.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
He's part of this, like he's part of the Hey,
that's the greatest catch I've ever seen. It was Sunday
Night football. It was an incredible catch. At some point, though,
shouldn't production matter more than popularity because I always thought
this when they were with Cleveland together, Jarvis Landry was
a better, more dependable wide receiver than Odell Beckham Junior.
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And it wasn't even close. Jarvis Landry hasn't played in
like three or four years, and his numbers are by
far and away better than Odell Beckham Junior's. And yet
there was no real buzz surrounding Jarvis Landry. And it's
got to be because Odell Beckham had that play on
that stage and in that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Market, and that's Dallas without a it was a perfect storm.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
It was a lightning strike, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It was a lightning strike because you know, if you're
not playing because think about to your point about Randy
Moss and Chris Carter, I mean arguably I when he's
calling the greatest show on turf, But they weren't far
from you know, a version of that.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It was.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They were phenomenal. Like anyone who remembers those vikings back then,
Robert Smith and know there's some of the players who
are part.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Of that offense.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They were some of the most fun football to ever watch.
I mean, hell, honestly, Like that's one of the reasons
that made me so intrigued by Tyrone Willingham to go
to Notre Dame, you know, because he had he had
was running that system from Denny Green and everything else
that they were doing there. So you know, when you
when you think about the impact it had, it was incredible.
But it's the lightning strike of to what Jonas said
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Sunday Night Football. You're you're the New York Giants, You're
playing the Dallas Cowboys. Everyone's seeing it in that moment
in that market and also in a time in our
society and when it could be passed along the way
it could be I mean, Levardo, your point, like if
people could go back and watch all the highlights and
they like that Randy Moss or Chris Carter used to
have back in the.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Day, in particular on those Vikings teams. I mean that
would be going viral all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean like like you still have a seven calls
he got mossed, because like that was a thing back
then that everyone knew about. But now it's become popular
with the young cats because they're like, oh wait, this
is pretty sweet. It's like, yeah, that was like every Sunday.
And it's not to take away from the catcher Odell
Beck in his career because I do again, when he's
healthy and he's capable of it, he could be a
really good player.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But the market he played in and the timing of
all that, it was just.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was one of those unique like probably not once
in a lifetime but maybe once in his lifetime type
plays and how it played out and brought.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Him fandomers or stardom.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And now we find he finds himself like, yeah, I've
got to earn my way back.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Just you know, being a football player.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's clowney in that hit against Michigan.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Yeah, that's a great comparison. It's a great comparison.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Because if you look at like that, that was like
that's the play you remember him from, like that's what
and not.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
To like paste LeVar, But dude, think about some of
your highlights.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If they were doing an era like Jademon Clowney's where
you had social media where they know it was so
much more prevalent and everything else that could spread the
way it would how many times the dudes be jumping
off the line to block kicks? How many times would
guys be jumping off the line to go after the
quarterback running back and doing some of the things you
did and they did, like all that stuff, all that
stuff would be viral all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, it would, But now.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The problem is it wasn't an h D. We didn't
have it able circulated that stuff. So like you know,
it comes around, but like you see it everyone you
know every so often, but it's like they don't understand,
like this game has been played by a lot of
greats before them in a very similar fashion.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, just true story, true words. But people want to
see it. They want to see if the hero, the
dude that created dancing trends and all that stuff like
that was a trend in in New York. Like even
with Victor Cruz. Victor Cruz was a dope football player,
but he became like a more iconic figure because he
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was doing things that hit in in a market where
you could become a social a social cultural icon social
social iconic influencer if you did it in that market
for some reason for what I happened.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
But what if it was the Jets. Uh, it's like
same building, same building.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I'll disagree with that. I mean, think about Joe Namath,
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's no, I'm just I'm just saying Broadway, Joe's Broadway
Joe and everything today.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But what what I'm saying to you is if there
was plays and play like players to that degree where
they had that sort of success, they would I mean,
people don't realize like that Joe Namath had a negative
touch on interception ratio. It's like statistically speaking, it's like
when you really compare his stats to others out there,
(32:18):
Like you know, people used to compare their stats to
Troy aippens It, who's a Hall of Famer, And you
sit there just like, well, okay, let's look at Troy
screen of Joe Namath. I mean, I don't know that
it's fair to compare eras necessarily, but if we want.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
To go down that roll road. You could. You can
go look at like, you know, Base, how.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Joe made his name, you know, making a guarantee right
like like, But if he's not in that market, does
it work out the same?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm trying to think of Curtis Martin, I mean, and
he's not He wasn't even an original New York yet,
but he definitely came in with the swag and the following.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I was gonna say, I actually remember him more.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I know he played pay way longer the jet, Yeah,
just because I rememberhen he first burst out on the
scene and all that, but he had a more successful,
longer cribage.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
If Fred Taylor's a giant Hall of Famer, If Fred
Taylor's a what a giant Hall of Famer? A giant,
A giant, Ye think about that. Not a jet shouldn't
be the case, Like that shouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
But it's part of it.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I mean, even Tony Boselli, Like, look how long it
took for Beselli to get it. If he's a New
York giant, is he in the Hall of Fame way earlier? Yeah?
You know what I mean? We might even be calling
in greatest offensive tackle outside of Orlando Pace or or
Walter Jones right like, but he was in Jacksonville just
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saying markets do matter. But I still think again, OBJ
is a product of right place, right time, And give
him credit. He knew he made the catch, he made
the play. But he also did something that a lot
of young athletes are learning and paying attention to doing now,
which is building and growing your brand in the moment name,
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image and likeness value matters. And he did it before
it was even a legal thing to do in terms
of as an athlete monetizing your brand.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
And I think he did it in crypto, which was
way ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
He did do it in crypto. Yeah, a lot of
people said he was wrong for doing that. You know,
they gave him the blues for it.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It seemed like maybe should have still done it the
old fashioned way. But hey, tZERO And it is Two
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Speaker 6 (35:42):
Hi, Larrayro, what do we got?
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Well, fellas, you need to be watching out for scammers,
and well maybe the scammers should be watching out as well.
A twenty four year old was found unlive in a
swimming pool.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
In New Jersey.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
He was accused of running a million dollar fake e
commerce game that specifically targeted professional professional former athletes. He
was selling steaks in fake online web stores. Three former
NFL players reported losing more than a million dollars combined.
Former Giants linebacker Tay Crowder.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I think is how you say, hey crowded?
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Yeah, he lost his entire five hundred thousand dollars savings.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Geez. And so so this guy.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Ended up unelabbed in the pool.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yeah, yeah, at a home.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
It didn't say his home, it just said a home.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
All that. Some people were speculating basically saying that, you know,
you think twenty twenty six cats would learn how to swim.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
You know well I was gonna say, like all that
money he made, he couldn't afford a snorkel.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, all ye had those swim lessons, you know what
I mean? Like, let's get some lessons, man Jonas.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
When's the last time he snorkeled?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Oh not a big snorkel guy?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah? I never, I guess never.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
No, I've stalked them before.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, you were able to push the water out of
your your your your pipe. Yeah that was real good. Yeah,
you blow hold it. Yeah, Okay, good for you.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Like this guy made all that money, you could go
on Amazon and buy you know, some floaties for like
four bucks. They're not that expensive. Go to a CBS.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm just saying, we're not supposed to be laughing in
a situation where somebody is on alive. But I'm just
saying yes.
Speaker 10 (37:31):
And the man who was found to see previously denied
the allegations. He says that the funds just hadn't come
back yet profit wise, and that there's no criminal activity
and no criminal charges were actually filed before he before
he died, and the authorities are looking into his cause
of death.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
You think they'll figure it out? Do you think somebody
marked things?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Seems a little suspect. Seems a little fishy to me.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
How you figure out it was a some cameras that
nobody was aware of. You know, these ring cameras, they
they all over the place. They're so easy to use.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Block cameras too, now too, the what the flock cameras.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I think that's what they're called.
Speaker 10 (38:09):
They're on the corners now, oh, watching everyone everything, all
that and your.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Cell phone technology like watching where where you're pinging at
the time to do with swimming.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
The problem is they've got all these cameras out now,
but people are still committing crimes.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know what. Yeah, Like, I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I think it's the nature of how they're using it.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I believe in the one case, the guy had traveled
across the state lines in Michigan, where marijuana is legal,
but they tracked him back into Wisconsin then pulled him over.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
That was more of the issue.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It's like, all right, how are we using the flock
cameras and should we be following people like that?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
It feels like big brothers get a little too involved there.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
How do you guys feel about red light cameras?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think they sting. I was living in DC when
all that was taken.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
If we really want to get if we really want
to get into a philosophical conversation, I'm all for rotaries
like roundabouts. I don't know why we need any intersections
like I would rather just have a roundabout, a rotary one.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
It's really hard if you're going.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
To try to speed through their good luck and to
it keeps a consistent flow of traffic without using the electricity.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
And although the bs you have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Oh yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Huh yeah, dude, it's not hard. They do it all
the time in other European cities. There's in other places too.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
You look at you go.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
They don't need a four way stop. This could be
a roundabout. I have no idea why they don't just
do that.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That might be too complicated for some people.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
That's the thing is.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
It's actually it's like we need to make things complicated.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
There's a roundabout that we take it a couple of
times up north and we go to sol Bang.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Every time. I miss it. Every single time. I missed
it because I'm just there. I'm not used to it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I'm probably if.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
You can't figure out a roundabout, you shouldn't have a license. Okay,
that's your big old dummy. It's like the people who
are like, I don't know how to buckle my seatbelt
on an ant rude, let me just come back there.
Then beat you over the head with it because you're
a dummy and you shouldn't be able to fly on
this plane. That's true, big dummy bomb.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
But that's my stupid damn someone's getting smacked.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Really, are we having are we having issues with seatbelts
on airplanes now?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Is that tang only if you need two seatbelts to
get it on? Oh okay, I'm really gonna do. Have
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last night, fun little Hall of Fame game. The star
(01:40):
of the show was Haines King, who delivered the game
winning touchdown run. A lot of people are big fans
of King James. I'm a big chef King Haynes, so
we will we will celebrate him. Carson Beck performed well,
A lot of people big fans.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He was start of the game. Yeah, I guess, you know, yeah,
he's something that's for his strikingly good looks and all that.
I guess, Hey.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Man, coach LaForce said he's been that's what he's been
looking like in practice. He said, what you saw in
the game is what he's been seeing. So you know,
they gave to Kobe Brissett. The deal doesn't mean Carson
Bett can't eventually become the guy.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Is starting to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So, I mean, can I just say this, Jacoby Brissett
was sitting over there on that bench and looking like
somebody's you know, somebody's uncle at the at the family
reunion that was waiting on his plate. Man. But I
just would not I would not be comfortable pulling up.
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I'm a vet starting quarterback card I wouldn't use it.
And that's the first thing I thought. I like saw
him sitting there, and I'm like, man, Bro, like you're
just now getting your extension or whatever, like Bro, get
one series in. Do not allow for yourself to be
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sat out, because in some cases you can look at
it truly as we're resting our vets, were resting our
old heads. In some cases that is very true. They're
protecting their vets. In some cases, it's just it's just
a slight start to a phase out. It's just a
slight understanding or maybe a making it clear that you're
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not the future of this team. And then you have
a player go out there and show out the way
that Beck did. He had to have been sitting there, like, man,
maybe I should have suited up. Maybe I should have
took some reps just to make sure that they know that.
You know, like, I'm the guy for now.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
You ask this, though, what's the up side of that
for him.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Going out there, he's already the guy, maybe maintaining his
job a little bit longer than what he might originally.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I don't I already got paid I don't.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I don't believe that a team next to a guy
and goes Hey played. You know, Beck played great, Like
the coach came out and said, this is what he's
been doing in practice. So think about that, they've been
watching this in practice.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
But you got layers Q, you know that people some
players like, but all Americans.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It doesn't change the point of the game. Okay, but
you're not hearing me. It doesn't change the point of
fact that they've been watching this, they've been seeing this.
They still paid Jacoby, they still did the deal. So
none of what you're saying matters, because whatever you thought
of last night, just because Carson Beck played and played
well and Jacoby didn't play, it doesn't matter. They already
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paid him, like they already made this decision by based
on everything they've saw scene.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It matters what I'm saying. For one, because it's coming
from me. That that makes it matter, like immediately upon
even a point being made is that it just came
from me. So I agree, really right, thank you. Secondly,
I'm going to push back on that because you guys
can say he's already gotten paid, and I understand that.
I agree with you one hundred percent on the fact
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that you know what wind loser draw. He already got paid.
That's fine. But if I'm a competitor, if this thing
means something to me, and just getting paid and sitting
on the sideline, which is something I've had to get
used to doing, and I get an opportunity to be
a starter, maybe starting matters more. Maybe it does. And
(05:33):
I understand the whole we've been seeing this from Beck.
I get that, but this was the first time they
seen him in a real game situation where he's not
protected by the whistles as much he is, but not
as much, and you get to see if he can
handle the lights and if he can handle being a
quarterback in the National Football League. And for what it's worth,
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in the first preseason game of the year, I think
anybody who watched the game came away with the idea
and the notion that Carson Beck can play in the league.
That to me, if if I'm Jacoby Brissett, if y'all
want to approach it the way y'all say, oh, he's
paid already, Oh, they feel good about it anyway, they
saw him in practice, So it don't matter. I got
my job. I don't think Jacoby Brissette is secure enough
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in a job, in the position of being a starter
to take an approach.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Here's the last stand to point out is now, are
you going to start behind the second offensive line?
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Is that what you want him to do?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
The starting offensive line for Arizona didn't start, So do
you want him to go out there behind the backups?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I mean that's a great point. I mean, if you
throw that from if you throw.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
That and then you'll notice that it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like if he's got the starting job already, they've paid
him fifteen point five this week ago guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Okay, all right, all right, it's like that you want
to get to week one.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Week One's what matter is, right, Like, if he's going
to hit what he can earn, like he needs to
get the week one healthy.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I'll take that. I'll take if they sat all the
starters out, they sat his line out and he didn't
go in, I get that.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
I also think that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
I also think that he's going Carson Beck's going to
get an opportunity to start this year, like if he's
held Because it's similar to the the Chadoor Deshaun Watson discussion.
Where Deshaun Watson's going to get the first go because
they paid him. But at some point, if it goes
sideways and you know there's no long term future with
Jacoby Brissett or Deshaun Watson or filling the blink of
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other veteran quarterback, yeah, they'll let Carson Beck, you know,
run the show for a little bit here.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Why not.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
So hey, he'll get his opportunity and uh and they'll
probably be in the market to draft a quarterback next.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Year anyway, So you know, it's too bad, Bud.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
He had a good first performance, him and Haines King,
you know, balling out on Thursday Night football in the
Hall of.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Fame game Carson Beck. That's all them say. I think
we might have saw something. We might look back on
this performance five six years from now and be like,
y'all remember when y'all was joking around about Well, they've
been saying they've been seeing this, and you know, I mean,
I guess it would lend to the point of him
having a great career if they've been seeing it. But
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sticks picks, Carson Beck might be that guy. Hell, he
might be that guy. Bro. He is fearless as hell,
that dude was slinging that thing. He would deal it down.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
Put that bron smoke it, Brady Hey.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
When he when he sat that ball in there on
that on that sideline route and sat it in there
early enough, like on point where the cat catch the
ball and get itself ready to take the big hit
that he took. He didn't just hang him out there
like it wasn't where he had to like go reach
for it. And it became like one of them scary
movement hits, like he put that ball on that man's
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hands with him have enough time to actually take the
big hit that that came his way. I was impressed.
I ain't gonna lie I did. I did not want
to see anything that was entertaining in a preseason game
because I was out. I was getting me a cheese
state and it was good, and I was drinking my
modello and my long Island. I double fisted last night.
(09:06):
And I'm just trying to say I was not trying
to be as entertained. I'm telling you they had to
sound up on the game. When I heard collins Worth,
I told the owner, because this won my little small
water wait.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Boy, way, what calls it a sound like Jonas.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I mean, I gotta tell you, watching Carson Beck, you
talk to Mike Lafleur and he speaks glowingly about it,
and then you see like just zips it right in there.
I mean, he's got the arm, he's got the ability.
I'm telling you you gotta watch out for this Carson Beck.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's pretty good. But if you had to turn it
up a little bit. Though. He had the volume up
on his voice last night and I had we had
to turn him down and turn the music up. It
was Line Dan's Thursday yesterday. I just gotta tell you, man,
I just I don't know. He just turned me like.
I was like, you can't be this excited about a
preseason game, man, you can't. I'm sorry, but he was,
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and I ain't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Hey, I commend him, you know, all right, I commend him.
Man's that's somebody who wants to give it the same
treatment you would give a regular season game or a
playoff game.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
And he did it. And you're right, and you I mean,
I get it, You're right. I'm probably wrong for my
stance on it. You're You're one hundred percent right. He
should give it the same energy. You're right, and you
know what, I get the same energy, and so does
the Nissan Frontier. Just so y'all know, I just wanted
to make sure y'all understand I respect the pickup. A
(10:33):
good pickup, A well built pickup that gets the job
done without making the fuss. That's the Nissan Frontier. I
throw my cowboy hat on and go do line dancing
on Thursdays because I can get there for truck that's
built for my work week, but loads me up and
gets me ready for my weekends. That's the Nissan twenty
twenty six front Tier. All right, So let's let's have
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this conversation.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Jason Light, the GM of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he's
got a couple of issues. One of them is Vita Vea.
The other is Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield wanted a long
term deal done before training camp. It didn't get done,
and so he had comments, I believe last week about
it not getting done and says he's going to ball
out and the price tag is only going to go up,
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so on and so forth. So Jason Light, the GM,
spoke yesterday at training camp and he talked about the
negotiations with Baker and then also the potential of the
franchise tag next year.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Well, I'm not going to get in specifics about the
contract and all that stuff, but yeah, we do think
he is, and we love Baker. Our feelings for Baker
haven't changed.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
You know, the franchise tag is a tool.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
It's an option. It's not you know, some necessarily something
you want to plan on doing, but you have to
in this business. You have to plan on things. You know,
one hundred different things can go one hundred different directions.
But it is an option and we could plan and
we could do it.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So franchise quarterback he thinks he is, and potentially they're
gonna get the franchise tag.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I mean, I don't see him going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I mean, i'd like I think, you know that this
does feel like it's headed towards the potential of you know,
him sticking around, uh maybe next year and they tag him.
I just don't know why they would would turn unless
this year just goes awful and they've got an opportunity
to draft their quarterback of the future. I don't know
why you would go any other direction than try to
keep Baker, you know, for at least another year.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
If go, yeah, go ahead, got got. I was just
going to say, I was just going to say, why
would you make a commitment like that knowing that the
potential of having a nuke staff is looming? I think
that that's what makes it such a tough spot to
be in, is that how do you make a decision
on your quarterback if you don't know what you're going
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to do with your coach? That, to me is the
reason why it's now. The veya part is that's I
don't know, you know, they got to work that one out.
But as it applies to your quarterback, if you're going
into a situation like you just explained Jonas where they're
not having a good season and they're failing, then you
got to assume that they're probably going to go in
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a different direction with a coaching staff. If they're going
to go in a different direction with a coaching staff,
why would you lock a quarterback into a long term
deal when you bring in a different coach? What now
you got to talk to that you have a specific
group of coaches as like, yeah, you know, we can
work with Baker, we can we can try to make
it work with him, versus well, you're at the end
of his contract anyway, So let's just start anew. Let
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him bring in the quarterback he wants to bring in.
I think that that would be the most sensible approach.
And knowing that you're in that position, then you got
to let this season play out to see if you're
going to keep the coaching staff and if now it
becomes a conversation once that falls in place with the coach,
now it falls in place to to do we go
different direction with the quarterback or do we keep keeping
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And that's going to come with the coach and the GM.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I don't know just why you're trying to fire Todd
Bowles all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I'm not trying to fire him. I'm not trying to
fire I'm just telling you how I see it.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
No, and I can see that. I definitely can see that.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I just I think it feels like they're holding down
the four because because what's hoteple.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
We're looking behind the scenes. His ownership and ownership might
be seeing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Themselves like, look, guys, we've got a great girl draft
class next year.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We we love Baker, we feel good about Baker, but
let's look at where he's at in his career where
we're at, and are we willing to really commit to
him in this major capacity like he wants when we
didn't feel necessarily great about how he played last year,
regardless of the injuries and so forth, because because.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
That's gonna be their argument, and they're just gonna say, look.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Like, if we feel like he's we've maybe seen his
ceiling and he's not gonna be able to get back
to those numbers, he's not gonna be able to get
back to that, then we I'm not sure we want to,
you know, exert our ourselves this season. And if he's
gonna take this hard stance that he's kind of giving
us an out like I would be willing to bet
the Glazer families having similar conversations to that. And on
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the flip side, you know, look, Baker's.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
An emotional guy. He plays that way.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I think how things have been handled from a business
perspective in the past, whether it's with Cleveland or now Tampa.
He's very upfront, he's very open about it, and you know,
he's the type of guy that that lets that play
a factor. And I was I'm hoping for his sake
that they can still give him the deal he wants
or he'll accept in the next couple of weeks before
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the season, even though he set that fictitious deadline and
now he seems intent on just playing out the year.
It's just odd, like if they if they offered you
what you want ultimately or maybe not as long, but
you know, one hundred million dollars, like you're gonna say
no to a guaranteed one hundred million dollars at signing.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
That just it seems tough to turn out.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
So my whole thing is it feels like between his situation,
Vida Veya, Mike Evans moving on, that this team is
in a bit of a state of flux because they're
not sure if they're going to be rebuilding with a
rookie quarterback next year or continuing on with Baker. And
here's the only thing I'd say about this that gets
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lost oftentimes.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
When these negotiations.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Get public and they don't go the way the player
necessarily wants, is there are some teams who will be
happy to have Baker prove them wrong. And I mean,
Jerry Jones did this with Dak Prescott, and he Dak
Prescott was able to cash in on it. But there
are some teams.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
And ownership groups that are like, hey, man, go prove
me wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
If you don't like the deal we've offered you what
we thought was fair, go out there, play well, prove
us wrong.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
We'll put the franchise tag.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
That will give us more time to negotiate a mega
deal for you, and we'll go from there. Like there
are some organizations that are okay and doing that, or
they have no issue doing that, like we talked earlier
this week about the Bejon Robinson contract, And there's some
teams that don't want to set a precedent of doing
a new deal with two years left on a deal
because they look at that and they say, well, then
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every single agent and every single player that has two
years left on his deal, if he has a good year,
is going to say pay me more and I we'll
go back to what we just did this deal a
couple of years ago or a few years ago, like
you still are under contract, Like I'm really happy for you,
but until we get closer to you actually being able
to leave, like.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
We're not going to do this.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
So that's the part part of the conversation is you know,
once you set a precedent from an ownership group or
an agent. It then sets the tone for every other
agent and player after that. And I think I think
the tough part for where Tampa's at is you kind
of already saw the running on the wall with Mike
Evans leaving, and now we're seeing it with the Vida Vay.
In that situation, what is agent set out He doesn't
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see really a path forward, but a trade again could
be just posturing, but at the end of the day,
that's what's becoming public and with Baker something kind of similar.
So I look at this and say, I feel like
this bodes poorly for this upcoming season because if things don't.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Get off to a good start.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
To your point, LeVar, like Todd Bowles, how he's viewed
amongst the fan base, how he's viewed amongst ownership, he
could be on the hot seat. And then obviously Baker,
you know, they might be looking at him saying like, yeah,
we'd just rather start over, and we were going to
be a position to draft someone that we can start
over with. Based on al Tala, the next year's draft
class is going to be at quarterback.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
My problem is I've got just a bad feeling about
Tampa this year, but in that division, a bad feeling
could still win need a division. So, like, I don't know,
it's just it feels like one of those you could
see an eight, nine, nine and eighteam win the division
there and and I don't know who else would be
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a potential threat, whether it's Carolina or you know, whether
Atlanta figures things out because they've got their own quarterback
issues and whatnot. I just I don't know if something
feels off there with the Bucks, but you know we will.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Uh something feels off about the NFC South, Yeah, sure does, man,
all of it.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That whole division can use some botox. Just like, do
whatever you need to do to pretty it up. There's
enough enough here.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You'll be careful. Sometimes you put too much Botchelo's in
your forehead. Then then you end up looking like a
plastic doll at twenty five.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
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That's one word, both of them, bo foe, both of them,
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apparently Odell Beckham Junior is performing well in training camp
with the New York Giants, and he spoke about his
(21:32):
development and spoke about where he was at this stage
of his career yesterday.
Speaker 9 (21:37):
I'm just trying to be president. Each and every day,
I prove to myself that I am who I know
I am. Everybody likes to talk about the old is
he going to be this ad? And I'm like, you know,
Levin James used to take off before the free throw line,
and now if he's taking off with his foot right
in front of it, he's still got a different game,
but he's still playing at a high level.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I believe that I can play at a high level.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I know that there's the popularity from that catch he had,
and he had a really good start to his career.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
But I don't. I don't get the.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Hey man, Obj's back stuff, Like I don't you know,
the Lebron James comparison.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I just don't. It's been a really really long time.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That did it for you, Lebron James, it for you.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Like I don't understand why there's still any sort of like, hey,
we'll give it a shot. But it's like you see
these reports come out like OBJ and pressing it camp Obj,
Like why, like is this all just because he was
popular back in the day and this just continues on.
It's like the Josh Gordon discussion years ago, where it's
(22:43):
like man Nate, Josh Gordon, Josh Gor It's like.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Well, yeah, he had that one year.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But it's been a long time and for whatever reason,
it's still a topic of conversation. I don't understand, like
he hasn't, Like it's been a really long time since
you've seen anything that's even close to what OBJ wants
in his prime, and yet there's still some hope that
he's going to get back to that point, And I
just don't know where that comes from.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Well, you have to have that hope, right, you have
to have that like kind of confidence or crazy irrational
thought that people on the outside don't have, otherwise you'll
never go to accomplish it.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I mean, that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Like for all those guys who played last night, there's
probably some people who told them in their life they
would never be able to make the NFL. There's probably
some coaches, people who doubted them, teachers or who knows
opponents who doubted them. They have to think different. You
have to think in a very crazy, unique way that
you're going to be able to beat the odds because
the odds are without a doubt against you. So it
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doesn't matter if it's you know, Odell Beckham Junior, you
know at this point staged in his career, after injuries, everything.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Else, or any of those young guys last night or.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Other guys who are trying to make a team right now.
You know, their mindset is just it's different, Like it
can't be like the normal person who's going to say, well,
you know, like only about three percent of guys we're
able to make Like you can't dive into that stuff
because if you do, you'll be consumed with the negativity.
You'll be consumed with everything that you know, people at
the pro level do and they point out what you
(24:11):
can do, or what you're not or what you don't
still have anymore. So he's he's got to stay in
this kind of, you know, blinders on mode of not
listening to anything of the noise the outside and and
just focus on how he can get back to the
best version of himself again, because when he was at
his top of his game, he was a hell of
a player.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
He was a difference maker.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
OBJ plays the game and he fits his role within
the reality TV show And sometimes it's not about how
good you are talent wise, it's about how you entertain
the audience. What what audience have you created and what
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what community have you grown during your time? He had
a cult like moment. He had a cult classic moment
in sports history. It made him a cult following hero.
And in a time where being an influencer and leveraging
(25:15):
social media and using it as a tool, there are
very few people who did it better than Obj. He
captured our imaginations with doing the acrobatics in football. You
want to know how influential OBJ is or was, Imagine
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Chris Carter. Guys like Chris Carter, guys like Randy Moss
were snagging one hand grabs for years, for years, and
we just said they had good hands. Oh that was
a great catch, good catch, Dot da da Obj did it,
and he totally revolutionized, evolutionized how receivers would go about grabbing,
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grabbing catches. It's like you try to find the style
and the pizzazz and and the excitement connected to the
way Obj caught that pass and then after the way
he caught passes after his style points were phenomenal. And
(26:24):
so to me, when you look at him, it's not
about seeing if he it's you know what it is.
It's like the Mike Tyson effect, Like there ain't no
reason why even if you thought for two seconds he
was going to beat up Jake Paul in that fight
for two seconds the minute he interviewed with his son,
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and that man walked off with a black knee brace
and his ass and a black match in jockstrap with
that ass show, and you should have tuned out. You
should have to. Well, here's the thing, but much like
Mike Tyson, in your mind, you still felt like that
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catch can still happen.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
Okay, but well that toe.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Tap swag, that one handed grab, it can still happen,
and you want to watch to see if he can
still do it.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Hey. And by the way, by the way, just for
the record, you know who was on the call when
that catch was made.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Chris Collinsworth. I just want to say.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
He's part of this, like he's part of the Hey,
that's the greatest catch I've ever seen. It was Sunday
Night football. It was an incredible catch. At some point, though,
shouldn't production matter more than popularity because I always thought
this when they were with Cleveland together, Jarvis Landry was
a better, more dependable wide receiver than Odell Beckham Junior.
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And it wasn't even close. Jarvis Landry hasn't played in
like three or four years, and his numbers are by
far and away better than Odell Beckham Junior's. And yet
there was no real buzz surrounding Jarvis Landry. And it's
got to be because Odell Beckham had that play on
that stage and in that.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Market, and that's Dallas without a it was a perfect storm.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
It was a lightning strike, that's what it was.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It was a lightning strike because you know, if you're
not playing because think about to your point about Randy
Moss and Chris Carter, I mean arguably I when he's
calling the greatest show on turf, But they weren't far
from you know, a version of that.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
It was.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
They were phenomenal. Like anyone who remembers those vikings back then,
Robert Smith and know there's some of the players who
are part.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Of that offense.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
They were some of the most fun football to ever watch.
I mean, hell, honestly, Like that's one of the reasons
that made me so intrigued by Tyrone Willingham to go
to Notre Dame, you know, because he had he had
was running that system from Denny Green and everything else
that they were doing there. So you know, when you
when you think about the impact it had, it was incredible.
But it's the lightning strike of to what Jonas said
(28:55):
Sunday Night Football. You're you're the New York Giants, You're
playing the Dallas Cowboys. Everyone's seeing it in that moment
in that market and also in a time in our
society and when it could be passed along the way
it could be I mean, Levardo, your point, like if
people could go back and watch all the highlights and
they like that Randy Moss or Chris Carter used to
have back in the.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Day, in particular on those Vikings teams. I mean that
would be going viral all the time.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
All the time.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I mean like like you still have a seven calls
he got mossed, because like that was a thing back
then that everyone knew about. But now it's become popular
with the young cats because they're like, oh wait, this
is pretty sweet. It's like, yeah, that was like every Sunday.
And it's not to take away from the catcher Odell
Beck in his career because I do again, when he's
healthy and he's capable of it, he could be a
really good player.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
But the market he played in and the timing of
all that, it was just.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was one of those unique like probably not once
in a lifetime but maybe once in his lifetime type
plays and how it played out and brought.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Him fandomers or stardom.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And now we find he finds himself like, yeah, I've
got to earn my way back.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Just you know, being a football player.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's clowney in that hit against Michigan.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Yeah, that's a great comparison. It's a great comparison.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Because if you look at like that, that was like
that's the play you remember him from, like that's what
and not.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
To like paste LeVar, But dude, think about some of
your highlights.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
If they were doing an era like Jademon Clowney's where
you had social media where they know it was so
much more prevalent and everything else that could spread the
way it would how many times the dudes be jumping
off the line to block kicks? How many times would
guys be jumping off the line to go after the
quarterback running back and doing some of the things you
did and they did, like all that stuff, all that
stuff would be viral all the time.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, it would, But now.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
The problem is it wasn't an h D. We didn't
have it able circulated that stuff. So like you know,
it comes around, but like you see it everyone you
know every so often, but it's like they don't understand,
like this game has been played by a lot of
greats before them in a very similar fashion.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, just true story, true words. But people want to
see it. They want to see if the hero, the
dude that created dancing trends and all that stuff like
that was a trend in in New York. Like even
with Victor Cruz. Victor Cruz was a dope football player,
but he became like a more iconic figure because he
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was doing things that hit in in a market where
you could become a social a social cultural icon social
social iconic influencer if you did it in that market
for some reason for what I happened.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
But what if it was the Jets. Uh, it's like
same building, same building.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I'll disagree with that. I mean, think about Joe Namath,
super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's no, I'm just I'm just saying Broadway, Joe's Broadway
Joe and everything today.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I get that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But what what I'm saying to you is if there
was plays and play like players to that degree where
they had that sort of success, they would I mean,
people don't realize like that Joe Namath had a negative
touch on interception ratio. It's like statistically speaking, it's like
when you really compare his stats to others out there,
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Like you know, people used to compare their stats to
Troy aippens It, who's a Hall of Famer, And you
sit there just like, well, okay, let's look at Troy
screen of Joe Namath. I mean, I don't know that
it's fair to compare eras necessarily, but if we want.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
To go down that roll road. You could. You can
go look at like, you know, Base, how.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Joe made his name, you know, making a guarantee right
like like, But if he's not in that market, does
it work out the same?
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm trying to think of Curtis Martin, I mean, and
he's not He wasn't even an original New York yet,
but he definitely came in with the swag and the following.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
I was gonna say, I actually remember him more.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I know he played pay way longer the jet, Yeah,
just because I rememberhen he first burst out on the
scene and all that, but he had a more successful,
longer cribage.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
If Fred Taylor's a giant Hall of Famer, If Fred
Taylor's a what a giant Hall of Famer? A giant,
A giant, Ye think about that. Not a jet shouldn't
be the case, Like that shouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
But it's part of it.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I mean, even Tony Boselli, Like, look how long it
took for Beselli to get it. If he's a New
York giant, is he in the Hall of Fame way earlier? Yeah?
You know what I mean? We might even be calling
in greatest offensive tackle outside of Orlando Pace or or
Walter Jones right like, but he was in Jacksonville just
(33:43):
saying markets do matter. But I still think again, OBJ
is a product of right place, right time, And give
him credit. He knew he made the catch, he made
the play. But he also did something that a lot
of young athletes are learning and paying attention to doing now,
which is building and growing your brand in the moment name,
(34:05):
image and likeness value matters. And he did it before
it was even a legal thing to do in terms
of as an athlete monetizing your brand.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
And I think he did it in crypto, which was
way ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
He did do it in crypto. Yeah, a lot of
people said he was wrong for doing that. You know,
they gave him the blues for it.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
It seemed like maybe should have still done it the
old fashioned way. But hey, tZERO And it is Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
Radio and Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up
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Speaker 4 (35:05):
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Speaker 5 (35:36):
Time to find out what's left Ton's incredible. Here's the Leftover?
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Hi, Larrayro, what do we got?
Speaker 10 (35:43):
Well, fellas, you need to be watching out for scammers,
and well maybe the scammers should be watching out as well.
A twenty four year old was found unlive in a
swimming pool.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
In New Jersey.
Speaker 10 (35:56):
He was accused of running a million dollar fake e
commerce game that specifically targeted professional professional former athletes. He
was selling steaks in fake online web stores. Three former
NFL players reported losing more than a million dollars combined.
Former Giants linebacker Tay Crowder.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I think is how you say, hey crowded?
Speaker 10 (36:19):
Yeah, he lost his entire five hundred thousand dollars savings.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Geez. And so so this guy.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Ended up unelabbed in the pool.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yeah, yeah, at a home.
Speaker 10 (36:32):
It didn't say his home, it just said a home.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
All that. Some people were speculating basically saying that, you know,
you think twenty twenty six cats would learn how to swim.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
You know well I was gonna say, like all that
money he made, he couldn't afford a snorkel.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, all ye had those swim lessons, you know what
I mean? Like, let's get some lessons, man Jonas.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
When's the last time he snorkeled?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Oh not a big snorkel guy?
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Yeah? I never, I guess never.
Speaker 6 (37:02):
No, I've stalked them before.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, you were able to push the water out of
your your your your pipe. Yeah that was real good. Yeah,
you blow hold it. Yeah, Okay, good for you.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Like this guy made all that money, you could go
on Amazon and buy you know, some floaties for like
four bucks. They're not that expensive. Go to a CBS.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm just saying, we're not supposed to be laughing in
a situation where somebody is on alive. But I'm just
saying yes.
Speaker 10 (37:31):
And the man who was found to see previously denied
the allegations. He says that the funds just hadn't come
back yet profit wise, and that there's no criminal activity
and no criminal charges were actually filed before he before
he died, and the authorities are looking into his cause
of death.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
You think they'll figure it out? Do you think somebody
marked things?
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Seems a little suspect. Seems a little fishy to me.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
How you figure out it was a some cameras that
nobody was aware of. You know, these ring cameras, they
they all over the place. They're so easy to use.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Block cameras too, now too, the what the flock cameras.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I think that's what they're called.
Speaker 10 (38:09):
They're on the corners now, oh, watching everyone everything, all
that and your.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Cell phone technology like watching where where you're pinging at
the time to do with swimming.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
The problem is they've got all these cameras out now,
but people are still committing crimes.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
You know what. Yeah, Like, I don't know why.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I think it's the nature of how they're using it.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I believe in the one case, the guy had traveled
across the state lines in Michigan, where marijuana is legal,
but they tracked him back into Wisconsin then pulled him over.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
That was more of the issue.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
It's like, all right, how are we using the flock
cameras and should we be following people like that?
Speaker 5 (38:48):
It feels like big brothers get a little too involved there.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
How do you guys feel about red light cameras?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think they sting. I was living in DC when
all that was taken.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
If we really want to get if we really want
to get into a philosophical conversation, I'm all for rotaries
like roundabouts. I don't know why we need any intersections
like I would rather just have a roundabout, a rotary one.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
It's really hard if you're going.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
To try to speed through their good luck and to
it keeps a consistent flow of traffic without using the electricity.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
And although the bs you have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Oh yeah, I mean it.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Huh yeah, dude, it's not hard. They do it all
the time in other European cities. There's in other places too.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
You look at you go.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
They don't need a four way stop. This could be
a roundabout. I have no idea why they don't just
do that.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
That might be too complicated for some people.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
That's the thing is.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
It's actually it's like we need to make things complicated.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
There's a roundabout that we take it a couple of
times up north and we go to sol Bang.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
Every time. I miss it. Every single time. I missed
it because I'm just there. I'm not used to it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
I'm probably if.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
You can't figure out a roundabout, you shouldn't have a license. Okay,
that's your big old dummy. It's like the people who
are like, I don't know how to buckle my seatbelt
on an ant rude, let me just come back there.
Then beat you over the head with it because you're
a dummy and you shouldn't be able to fly on
this plane. That's true, big dummy bomb.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
But that's my stupid damn someone's getting smacked.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Really, are we having are we having issues with seatbelts
on airplanes now?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Is that tang only if you need two seatbelts to
get it on? Oh okay, I'm really gonna do. Have
a great weekend everyone. That's ten dollars. Jonas
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