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November 11, 2025 40 mins

To wrap up the last hour, the guys discuss Texas Tech’s head coach Joey McGuire calling out Notre Dame, FOX Sports Football Rules Analyst Dean Blandino stops by + a LeBron James update in the Leftovers! 

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and subscribe. So we were talking obviously a little bit
about Monday Night football last night for those of you
that could watch it. I'm not sure exactly when the
YouTube TV ESPN Disney crap is going to get solved.
Is there any progress, any momentum, anybody heard anything about

(01:44):
whether or not this is going to get fixed anytime soon?
Here are we just gonna keep playing this game and
do the whole song and dance up until the weekend
with more people trying to tell you to go click
a link and file a complain against YouTube. Anybody? Anybody
you know anything? Anybody got any inside information? Anybody got anything?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Uose the inside information? Guy, I don't know anything about anything.
I just go with the flow.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
You know, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I just go with the flow?

Speaker 5 (02:14):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
What do you what do you mean by that? I
just you know, I went to a sports bar and
watched it.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Brady, do you have any intel YouTube TV ESPN is
the thing going to get sorted out or are we
going to be kicked in the nuts for another few
days between these another few days.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
I mean you have to look at like what would
be I'm trying to think, let's take a look at
their programming schedule for this upcoming weekend. Here's the interesting
thing about it is there's no doubt they take a
ratings hit they I mean that the Monday night football announcement.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
They made that was ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
They keep trying to act like, you know, the ten
million that sign up through YouTube TV aren't impacting anything.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
They one hundred percent and are so.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
I just there's gonna be a big event at some
point where they have to come to the negotiating table
and figure this out. I mean, for example, uh, Notre
Dame plays Pittsburgh on at noon this weekend, So that's
gonna be a relatively big game because it's you know,
two top twenty five teams. Pit's still in the race

(03:21):
for the ACC So there's there's a lot of like
going on from that perspective.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oklahoma is playing Alabama.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
You're like, that's another one that you look at and say,
all right, it's a huge matchup. That's a three point
thirty on ABC. Ten million people are not gonna be
able to watch that, you go, I mean, just there
has to come at a certain point.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Maybe it's in Georgia, Texas.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Is there is there seven o'clock seven thirty prime time game,
So I would say Saturday or like Friday, Saturday is
when they can figure this out, or leading into Monday
Night football, which I'm not sure in the NFL schedule
who's playing Monday night next week, But like, those are
the two points where you say, this is where you
know they would want to have a big ratings like
they someone would.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Section Georgia, you know, also noteworthy.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, I just said that ology.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, way to pay attention to what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
But Dallas again on Monday night November seventeenth, which is
will be twice now they've had Dallas, and their ratings
most likely will not equate to what we're normally used
to saying.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
So there you go.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
It'll either be before Monday night, I would assume if
it happens, or Friday into Saturday, because there's not really
a ton of programming otherwise that they care that much about.
But that's usually when this thing.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Will get done. Though, there's some sort of fictitious deadline.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
At the NBA.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Who needs to TONBA, what side needs to give in
for this to take place?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Is this like it's esp Disney? Like like, no, it's
it's Disney. I mean what Google, who owns YouTube TV,
is doing. They're just redistributing content, and so they're obviously
passing on, you know, whatever whatever they incur for paying
for those rights onto the consumer. But if Disney keeps

(05:06):
ratching this up, and I think the other thing you
have to remind yourself of is it's not exclusive content.
So from YouTube's perspective, it's not like you can only
find ESPN, ABC that you know, Disney programming for sports
on YouTube TV. There's other platforms too, and obviously their
own platform. So that kind of makes a difference in

(05:27):
how you go about some of those negotiations because, you know,
YouTube TV or Google in this case is competing against
Disney in a way of trying to get you to
not sign up with with their streaming service or and
sign up for for you know, YouTube TV. So it's
a lot more intricate than that. But the reality is
it's more on ESPN. They've made some poor financial decisions.

(05:49):
They overpaid for the NBA. Some would say they've overpaid
for what they've done in college football. Is the amount
they've paid for the additional playoff games and the expansion,
and really just in general that it's hard to be
able to make and turn profits off of that.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Now.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Disney is a huge corporation that has more than just
you know, the ABC ESPNS. You know, and they obviously
have their you know, resorts and like the cruises and
everything else that goes along with it. But I mean
as far as the TV aspect of it goes, they're struggling.
You know, Ratings are down, people aren't a fan of

(06:24):
some of the content they're putting out during the week,
and now you're taking away the one thing people would
tune in for for appointment television. I mean, think about this, like,
we grew up with highlights, which I still to this
day find it hilarious that ESPN thought, well, let's go
away from highlights. Let's go with this argument and debate. Like,

(06:44):
instead of watching dudes dunking or last second shots or
home runs or touchdowns, we want to listen to two
dudes yell at each other debate about some stupid argument
like when has that ever been attractive? And then if
you look on social media, like what do you see?
You see a lot of high highlights and they're like, well,
that's where a lot of young people consume it. Well,
there was still a huge demographic of people who wanted

(07:05):
to watch highlights and they still consumed ESPN and you
know whoever it was in that way, it's like their
habits didn't necessarily change, they just grew a little older,
and so ESPN made this pivot and now it's like
they're trying to almost get out of it and get
back to what made them popular in the first place,
is celebrating sports, not all the other bs they throw

(07:28):
into the conversation that you get people to talk about
who're probably talking on TV about right now, like crap,
that doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know, you guys remember NFL Primetime Chris burn and
Tomer Jackson, Like that used to be if you wanted
to know what was going on with game, and those
guys were phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
They would go through every game.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
They'd give you about two minutes of highlights on each game,
and you knew every detail of every single game. They
did every NFL game, and that used to be the way,
and it's just that no longer exists. You do the
fastest three minutes or two minutes, whatever they do during
halftime with Chris Berman.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
But it's just you know, that's not the case anymore.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
So.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
But you know, I listen for anybody that has YouTube TV,
and you couldn't watch the game last night. You didn't
miss much. The game sucked. The Green Bay Packers have
an awful offense, and because of that, I now have
a losing record in our picks. So that's the storyline,
and there's your recap of money Night football. One of
the games that you can see if you have YouTube
TV coming up this weekend college football wise, is you

(08:28):
can see Texas Tech and UCF and you can see
that because it's on Fox. Joey McGuire, the head coach
at Texas Tech, took time from instructing students to throw
tortillas at each other to instead discuss his respect for BYU,
who they just beat, and took time to maybe take

(08:50):
a shot at another program in college football.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
I was really excited whenever they joined the Big Twelve
because I think that they carry a lot of weight
and a lot of respect.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
I think that.

Speaker 7 (09:02):
I have a lot of respect for them entering a
conference and not playing an independent schedule like other people.
Y'all already know who that is, so I have a
lot of respect for that. I mean, they're earning their
right just like everybody.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
But a couple of.

Speaker 7 (09:14):
People in the nation are earning their right through conference play,
you know, and playing in some really tough places.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Who's he talking about.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
I mean, there's there could be Yukon, Yukon seven and
three right now. They're independent, You're said, Jim Moore has
done a hell of a job. Maybe it's not about Yukon.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
You know what I don't get about this.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
I don't understand why, like just because they just played
BYU who has now been in the conference for a
couple of years, a few years. And the other thing
is Notre Dame plays a more difficult schedule. Their strength
of schedule is thirtieth, So that independent schedule he's referring
to is more difficult than the path that you're talking about,

(09:55):
which Texas Tech their strength of schedule ranks forty eighth.
You know, if you go buy the Football Power Index,
you know, if you're into the really let's geek it
out gett into a lot of the analytics of it.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Their names Fifth, Texas, Texas, eleventh.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
So I'm not really sure why he's choosing to pick
this fight, especially in a day and age, in a
world where we're looking at what's happening in the Big Ten.
I mentioned this to you guys the other day. They're
looking at an infusion of capital from private equity, and
there's two schools that are not on board with this,
that's Michigan and Southern Cal. And it appears that the

(10:31):
Big Ten is going to move forward with this potentially
without Michigan and Southern Cal.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Now what that.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Means for their membership to the Big Ten, I don't know.
You know, they obviously wouldn't be able to accept whatever
infusion of capital is coming into the Big Ten. So
as eighteen teams will be sixteen teams, divide that up
instead of Michigan and you know, Southern Cal sharing that.
But who knows what that means for their membership as

(10:59):
part of the Big Ten in general and the media
rights that come along with that, because this infusion of
capital is tied to the media rights of the Big
Ten conference, which I believe exhaust itself in like twenty
thirty six. So there's all sorts of people who are
looking at the current model and college sports and like, well,
wait a second, if you're Michigan or Southern Cal, Like,

(11:20):
why do we want to be a part of a
conference that's getting this you know, two point four billion,
whatever the number is of capital. Yet we're pulling more weight,
Like Southern Cal joined the Big Ten conference and we're
going to same revenue split as Rutgers. Doesn't make any sense,
doesn't We've got to travel more, We've got you know,

(11:41):
a more a lot of Olympic sports, We've got a
lot of other expenses we've got to pay for. You know,
maybe it'd be better off we went independent and we
don't have to share all of this, and that way,
if we make it to the College Football Playoff, we
get to keep all the money, so we're not sharing
it with the rest of the conference every single win,
every single round we go through. Look at the way
college football is set up right now, in college sports,

(12:03):
for that matter, you're gonna start saying some fractures created
because there's a lot of the there's a lot of
blue bloods and some of the bigger schools that I
don't think they look at the deal they're signing up
for and they feel like it's fair. And that's why
they keep trying to reshape the media rights where if
you're one of the top schools in viewership, you're getting
an unequal portion of that revenue from the media rights

(12:24):
because you've earned it, you deserve it.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
If Notre Dame or if Texas Tech could be independent,
wouldn't they rather be independent if they could sustain that?

Speaker 5 (12:34):
That tell probably?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
I mean they The reality is when Cody Campbell, who's
a billionaire who's off, you know, on commercials, talking about
all sorts of different.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Legislation he's trying to work on. I mean, that's the
that's let's be real.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
They're eight and five before Cody Campbell, you know, put
in thirty million dollars or whatever the number is for
the loss of this year. That has been the most
dramatic turnaround for Texas Tech to help them become.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
A winning football team.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
So you know, Joey McGuire can talk about their schedule conferences,
you had to have thirty million dollars infused in your
roster in order to be able to be where you're at.
Their defense is what I mean. It's they bought their
entire defensive line, and that's the day and age we
live in college football.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
I'm not just complaining about it.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Let's just be real about how they got to where
they're at.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know, wealthy guy oil money.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Okay, great, there were eight and five football team that
was the high mark under Joey McGuire before.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Then, and now that looks like they can be playing
about that stuff anymore.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
And if you nobody, well, I'm not complaining about it,
but let's let's also be real.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
I'm not saying your different sound like I'm saying how
they got to where they got.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Sure, what I'm saying is no one gets there only
to me. The only people that get to complain about
what you just said are those who don't have resources
at their disposal like an, A and M. That's that's it. Like,
if you're talking about some like most of these major programs,

(14:02):
you have the resources to be able to get behind
it if you really find a way to get behind it.
And I know fundraising isn't as cut and dry or
super simple as I just made it sound. But with
that being said, the day and age that we're in
right now you can openly have these conversations and all

(14:24):
these these different schools. You know what we won't have
a problem saying is these fans complaining and booing and
throwing articles at the coaches and at their families and
heckling them and then they get fired and stuff like that.
But you got a problem with contributing where you have

(14:45):
the type of money that can build the type of
team that you're talking about that that oil billionaire is
putting into a and m So to me, you can't
have your cake and eat it too in those situations,
which I hate that statement, but you can't like you
if you're going to be a person a fan, if

(15:05):
you're going to be a school that holds your your
program to that highest and highest standard and expectation, then
you know when you can throw things and be mad
and cut a fit and snap out when you're that
billionaire that puts their money behind making this a championship
caliber team, and that doesn't happen if you're not that person,

(15:30):
Shut your face, sit your ass in a corner, and
hope that your team can win, and chair because you're
a fan or you're from there, or you went there,
just chair and be a fan and hope they win
and be supportive, because otherwise you're not doing anything to
fix the issue. You're not putting resources behind the programs
to help make them be better. All you do is

(15:51):
sit there, bitch, complain, complain, moan and groan about what
you don't see and how that person stinks and how
the team sucks and how that person should be fire.
And if you're one of those people that's sitting on
their hands complaining like that, you really don't have anything
to say. It's not valid. Even if it were, it's
not because you did nothing to contribute. That's that's the

(16:13):
that's the truth of the matter.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Why did Penn State join a conference because they were independent?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Why did they decide to independent?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Liked because financially, financially it made more sense. I think
I've read that. It's, you know, the non revenue sports.
It was going to help be able to sustain the
non revenue sports. And it's like, okay, so if Joey
Maguire and these other programs take shots at a Notre
dame because they're independent, dude, what do you want them
to do? Like, hey, we can we can afford to

(16:43):
do this on our own, but let's join your conference
to help elevate you guys. Oh, kiss my ass, Like,
why should we be punished or why should we get heat?
Because we can do it and you can't. Like that,
that's the part of this. I don't and I remember.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
We can do it and you won't. Yeah, I mean,
however you want to put it right.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
They're they're a brand.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
They've been a brand for you know, decades now, And
I don't if I was, if I was Texas tech
in like I would, any conversation about Notre Dame to
me elevates every like it's one of those programs to
where if that's in the conversation, it's going to raise
more awareness and more eyeballs for your program. So why
take a shot at it? Like like, why why try

(17:24):
and dismiss it or passive aggressively you take a swipe
at it when you know you would do the exact
same thing if you could.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
We're gonna find them ten dollars.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Joey maguire, Can I get ten dollars on the board?

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yeah, I think I think he can cover that.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, one hundred dollars falls pocket. Hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4 (18:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
One of the things that I find interesting too about
Joey maguire saying this is like they're in a good
position to obviously play for the Big twelve championship and win.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I think one of the issues he's he's I mean,
if you look at.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
Their their you know, current resume, They've beat Utah, they've
beat BYU, and I would assume they're probably gonna play
BYU again in the conference championship game. Off the wait
and see if they lose that game, you know, and they
end up being a two loss non conference champ. I
think there's a little bit of a concern or worry
about whether or not they get in, Like how their

(18:39):
two losses compared to the SEC teams, how their record
compares to a Notre Dame. I think that's in part
why you hear some of these coaches now politicking.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
I don't think they get in if they don't win. Yeah,
two losses without winning a conference title, I don't think
they get in.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Well, there's there's gonna be a number of two lost
teams who do get in. But what's interesting is.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
But from what conference?

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Well it could be you know, it could be the
Big Twelve, could be SEC, it could be Big Ten.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
But they get Big ten SEC.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
The point to that is is like they've got Utah
ranked where they have in the rank. Utah's beat really
literally no one like outside of Cincinnati who they just
just beat, Like you kind of look at it and
go right, like, who else have they beat on their
schedule that you're like really impressed by Arizona State.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
They've kind of fallen by the wayside of late. So
it's just it's.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Gonna be interesting to see like how the Big Twelve
is viewed because outside of BYU text SEC in Utah,
that's really all you've got.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
They var what you eating? Man, what you got?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
How do you know I'm eeting? It sounds like you're
eating I hit mute. We could hear when.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Man, we worked together like a protein bar, peanut butter
or something.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, is it one of those Reese pieces of buttercup
you had last time.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I got a sausage, egg and cheese McMuffin. Hell yeah,
and I take the the the muffin part of not muffin.
But what is it called?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
What is this called the English muffin?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
English? Yeah, English muffin. And I replaced that with a
hash brown that's like my my muffin. So it is. Yeah,
it's pretty good, but I'm mad that you hurt me
eating it. I was hitting mute. That's I can't believe.
I can't believe I eat that loud. That's so what

(20:38):
you're saying is is I smacked my lips when I eat.
No ridiculous And thank you for calling me out to
the entire listening macking lip ass Like all right.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Damn all right.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Coming up next here, we are going to have a
We are going to have a conversation with somebody who
knows why things are the way they are in the
world of football when it comes to officiating. He's the
one and only Dean Blandino, and he's yours.

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Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and College football rules analyst,

(22:19):
and you can get him.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
On X The show Welcome into the show at.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
Dean Blandino Dean. Good morning, a Dean, welcome into.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
Good morning guys, good morning, good.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Morning, good morning being welcome Dean Dean.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
If you were a betting man, what would you guess
one of the first questions would be about following last
night's game between the Packers on the If you're a
betting man, if you were to place a wager on.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
That wager, Yeah, well, I wish I would have known
that these guys were thrown pitches ten feet in the
dirt and on prop bets and based ball.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
No kidding, I didn't even know that was a thing.

Speaker 9 (23:07):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I mean, you didn't get suspicious after you saw that
thing land ten feet in front of the plate.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
The best part is, you know, I'm a Dodgers fan
and Andy Pie is like a free swinger.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
And they showed the only they didn't didn't.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
He ruined his parlay.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
He ruined it.

Speaker 8 (23:26):
Because he sung at a pitch the bounced three feet
from so good.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
And it's like, oh my god, that guy, what an
awful swing.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, but you don't know. It was worse for the
guys that had the parlay going. They thought that was
going to pay out.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I feel like.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
We're gonna talk about our favorite play there it is.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't have to do my little bit,
But how you feel about that? I mean, they're going
it seems like they're going earlier and earlier about the
day one.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
The one last night. I mean, I know the Packers
had that was kind of a little bit of a
different not really to push, but the Eagles.

Speaker 9 (24:05):
I mean that was like you watch that live and you.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
Go, wait, wait a minute, like that's not I mean
that was a full felt like like a full second early.
And at this point, at this point, I'm like, Okay,
they're telling the officials we want this play out, just
don't call it. Just just we're just going to put
all this this tape on on on a reel at
the end of the year and show it to the
competition committee and say this is too hard. And that's

(24:29):
going to be their strategy to get rid of it.
Because that was that was about as obvious as it's been.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
So they're gonna they're going to go back to that
we can't officiate it properly, so we're just not going
to officiate it.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
That's how we're going to get out of this.

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Thing exactly now we're going to get out of this thing,
which is crazy.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Well, why can't you just say, like you can't push
a runner like I don't understand why that's so difficult
to bring that rule back like you used to have.
We have how many cameras on any given game, Dan, like,
we can associate that, but we have to make it revealable.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
We can officiate it, no question, and they just and
look when we took it out, we weren't the replay
process and technology wasn't where it is today. So then
you you certainly can make it like if the official
throw a flag, just have replay look at it and
go okay, yeah, there's the guy pushed them.

Speaker 9 (25:15):
And it was you could put it.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
Once you put in that rule, the toach push goes
away because it's just too obvious. The one downfield is
where they feel like they have the issues and it's harder,
but you know it, or just blow the whistle, blow
the when the pile starts is kill the play and
then you don't have any of it.

Speaker 9 (25:33):
And and that's it. And I don't think it. I
think it can be done.

Speaker 8 (25:37):
They just they just got to figure you know.

Speaker 9 (25:39):
They'll do it.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
I want to follow up though, in the college football
world because the next most controversial play Friday night Southern
Cal Northwestern. They run out their punter, but it's not
their punt, it's the third string quarterback. He's wearing a
different number. They throw a pass completion for the first down.
Just take me through a couple of things. One, why

(26:02):
are multiple numbers allowed at the college football level? And
then on top of that, just the you know, the
rule itself in that particular play, because I believe the
Big Ten came out and said was illegal.

Speaker 8 (26:15):
Yeah, so multiple numbers are because of the roster sizes, right,
NFL it's much easier. You have smaller roster sizes. College
it's you know, I don't think there's even the smaller
programs have have more than one hundred, one hundred kids.
And it used to be you guys remember used to
have you could have like six number threes, and and

(26:37):
then you had teams that were you know, that were
that were taking you know, that had three different quarterbacks
with three different styles, and we're to put them in
the same number. And then it's going to be tough
to watch film and it's going to be tough to
know who's in the game. And so, okay, you can
only have two of the same number, but that has
to be on your that has to be on your.

Speaker 9 (26:56):
Roster sheet, that is shared with the official the opponent.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
You cannot have number eighty who's a punter and another
number eighty who's a punter. Now, this was I mean,
it was awesomely diabolical. I mean, this was down to
they dressed that. They dressed them the same. I mean,
the only way you know the difference between these two.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
Guys is one guy has a has a ginger.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
Mustache and the other guy's clean shave.

Speaker 9 (27:23):
And it's incredible.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
He was wearing I think you was wearing was wearing
kicking shoes and so. But once they had you were
listened as a quarterback. They had the other kid, Johnson
whatever his name is listed as the punter. But you
can't play them both at punter and that has to
be the officials. And it's really hard on officials. But
how are they going to know? So there's procedures in place,

(27:45):
it's not legal, you can't do it. Obviously they got
away with it, but I think this will be something
that they'll probably put a little more, you know, teeth
into the protocol to make sure it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Dan, know, every week we you come on and you
have to answer questions that are specific to one topic,
and it's obviously about officiating and rules and stuff like that.
I kind of feel like that gets a little redundant,
so I kind of want to hit you with something

(28:18):
a little different. Like at one point you were doing
stand up comedy, like yeah, are you funny? Bro? Like
what what type of comedian? Like what type of comedian
are you? Like? Like what like can you like just
jump into it and make a person? Is it a
rehearse bit?

Speaker 8 (28:36):
Like what do you mean funny?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Like?

Speaker 8 (28:39):
What am I like?

Speaker 9 (28:39):
I'm a clown?

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Like what?

Speaker 8 (28:42):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (28:42):
Not like no, no, no, no, no, you know you know
what you said.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
You're a big boy.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
What I see what you're doing. I see what you're
doing right now. But I'm just really curious, are you
can you make can you make us laugh?

Speaker 8 (28:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Are you good at or were you? Or where you
short lived? As a comedian would stand up because you
might not have been as funny, And then that led
to you then getting into officiating.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
Yes, as a normal the normal transition.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, you know, I couldn't make people laugh. So I
want to started calling games, you know, and how and
how did you enroll? By the way, like how did
you enroll into officiating? Like how do you get into
Like I'm not going to be a stand up comedian.
I'm just going to go into officiating, like I'm acquiring
minds want to know.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
So I wasn't. I didn't.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
I didn't know anything about officiating.

Speaker 9 (29:38):
I didn't. It wasn't like a dream of mine.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
I've played sports my whole life.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
I loved I love sports.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
I wanted to get involved when I got out of school, graduated,
I want to get involved in sports, like, you know,
I didn't know what that looked like. Set my resume
to the NFL Major League Baseball.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
You know, growing up in New York.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
All the offices are in New York City, NFL call
and just had a co full of internship opportunities.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
I went in interviewed.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
One was in officiating, and and I got that position
and that was it. And then I just learned officiating
from a lot of good people and looking at film
and breaking down film that kind of thing. And then
I started doing stand up comedy because somebody I met
at the NFL was also doing comedy and said, hey,
you should try it, and.

Speaker 9 (30:21):
I liked it. It was never it was never a career.

Speaker 8 (30:23):
Path for me. It was never something I said, oh,
I want to do this. I always knew that my
path was at the NFL and what I was doing there.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Who was.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
Oh so it wasn't even a mentor. It was a girl.
Her name and you can look her up. Her name
is val Gamble. She's awesome.

Speaker 8 (30:41):
She was actually in you remember the movie house Party.

Speaker 9 (30:44):
Hid and Play he was.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
She was in House Party, had a couple of lines
in House Parties. She was doing stand up acting and
was part.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Of like a friend group when I first started. We
would all hang out and she and and Labar. If
you will get.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Its, Brady knows we'll get a chance to hang out
like in a social setting. I'm not a I'm not
a walk in the room. I gotta be the center
of attention.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
I'm like sneaky, funny like he'll.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Just okay, he's low key, like really good.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Like quality over quantity, Okay, witty, you're a witty, com
comedic guy.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
I can I can whatever whatever you want.

Speaker 9 (31:22):
You want witty you want, you know, whatever, whatever you're.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
He's got a quick wit.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
He understands like what needs to be said, what's appropriate
to the only thing I regret is at the Fox
seminar and Petres talks about this all the time, Dean.
Everyone's kind of talking, but like most people are kind
of talking but looking.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
To see, like, all right, who else is here?

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Like losses do have to avoid like that, you know
that whole thing are like, oh who I have to
say hello to? It's like a lot of that going
on too, So I feel like I only get about
I don't know, two three, four minutes of like really
good like con tent from Dean before he has to
move on and he has to talk to other people,
probably his new best friend Tom Brady.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Whoever else is there?

Speaker 9 (32:08):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
So he's too good for you now, is what you're
trying to say?

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah she was Tom joined team. I was the number
one Brady until Tom joined?

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Actually were you were?

Speaker 6 (32:18):
But now yes, that's true, And we go back to
a four hour radio show on satellite radio where Dean
would have to go through a list of twelve different
plays every single week. We bring him on and he
will have to decipher this and it's usually the same thing,
like the same as I'm doing.

Speaker 8 (32:36):
That again in about five hours.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Was in Juice too, Huh. She was like in some
movies like she she did a few things.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I remember from House Party.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
No, you don't do not.

Speaker 6 (32:50):
Can I ask a serious question about appreciating? Can I
go back to officiating because I don't get much of
Dean's attention anymore. Dean, I've got a call game this week?
There was a rough in the passers? Can you go
through like what needs to constitute a rough in the
passer either how they're landing on them or like low
on them, contact to the helmet, because there was one

(33:10):
of the in the Saints Panthers game on Bryce Young
and I was like, all right, like that seems like it.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Was a little bit incidental. Is there even room for
incidental in that regard.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
And the Dallas Turner there is I thought actually was
rough in the passer on Dallas Turner and people were
outraged by that too.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Yes, the Dallas Turner won. That's more of what we're
looking for.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
That's more.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
Look he you watch him leave his feet and kind
of stuff them into the ground. That that's the foul
versus like Jack Campbell two weeks ago, you know, against
on JJ McCarthy where he just tackled him. There is
room for incidental contact. I mean, that's a judgment call.
It's not any contact in the head neck area. It's

(33:50):
got to be forcible contact. So if it's like a glance, uh,
it's not a foul. But that's subjective and that in
the officials trying to make that decision in real time.
And then the only part replay can get involved in
is if there is contact, and if there is to
the headneck area, that replay can't pick it up. They
can't get involved in the severity of the contact.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I have a quick one for you because this has
always confused me. When the play clock goes to zero,
how come sometimes they'll blow it dead for a delay
a game, And sometimes they'll just let the play go
even though it's clearly at zero and they haven't snapped
the ball yet.

Speaker 9 (34:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (34:27):
I mean there was one last night where I thought
it was clearly that should have been a foul. The
clock was at zero, and I think it was a
big play, third down or whatever it was. But the
mechanic is the back judge in the deep official that
mat official is like twenty five yards in water scrimmage
in the middle of.

Speaker 9 (34:44):
The field, is responsible for the play clock.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
When the clock get now they have pre snap, they
have pre snap responsibilities. They're looking at the formation, reading
the formation, looking where their key has you know, they
start with an eligible receiver where they have to go,
and then the play clock gets under ten, they start
to focus on that. Once the clock hits zero, they
look to see what the ball is doing. If the
ball has started to move, it's it's not a foul.

(35:10):
If the ball is still on the ground and the
snapper hasn't begun the snaps, it's it's it's delayed game.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
So there is a people talk about there's a delay.

Speaker 8 (35:18):
It shouldn't be. It's we're talking about split second, not
not a long delay, And it could be something with
official just doesn't doesn't focus or doesn't get their eyes
down where they need to be a lot of times
when they missed the delay game and so that that's
kind of how that works.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Uh, Dean, always a good time Fox Sports, NFL college
football rules analysts get them on x at Dean Blandino.
We appreciate it and uh, hey, I think you're funny.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (35:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So passive.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
That is that's a guest suck up. Fine, that is
ten dollars.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah up, well I don't agree. That is horrible.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Some people call it a guest suck for sure, but
that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know what, Brady, that you're all in on that one.
That was really really on point accurate, like.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
This is you want to be in the locker room.
Jona's this is this is how it works, Buddy, wait to.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Jack up an interview. Jonah's like, got leave, Bro said,
here's the thing is is so funny to me?

Speaker 6 (36:22):
Dane like, I don't wanted to disturb your sleep though,
And by the way, do you know if you want
to understurb sleep, let mattress for a match you with
a temper Pete shot mattress from.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
His Black Friday sale and said five hundred dollars.

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On Select temp Repetic Adjustable registraction supply. I mean during
a read really next day to say it like Jonas
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store for more details.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
This was locker room giving their money back for that one.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
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Speaker 5 (37:11):
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Speaker 4 (38:07):
Time to find out what's left Town's incredible.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Here's the left.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
Over all, Right, larray, ray, what do we got?

Speaker 10 (38:15):
Oh, we're going back to the NBA section of our
fridge today. I noticed we've been missing the King himself,
Lebron James for the past few Lakers games. Don't get
too excited, but according to Kobe Price, the Los Angeles
Lakers beat reporter, he said that King James will be
practicing with the South Bay Lakers this week, preparing for

(38:36):
his return, right.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, playing in games with them, just practices, because that's
probably beneath the k you think so brag.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Help me understand. Why can't you just
practice with the normal Lakers, like the team he's on.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Right, it's a great question.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Why did we go into this?

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Maybe because they're traveling.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
I would say they traveled the whole week.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
They might be. I don't know, I don't I don't
follow it like that.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
But Charlotte, Charlotte last night. They played Charlotte last night.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, where are they at tomorrow? When are they back home.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Who cares to practice?

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, it matters because of the theory of why he's
practicing with the South Bay South Bay Breakers.

Speaker 4 (39:30):
I think it has to do with Luca.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Luca don't want him around. That could be because he's black.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
They are on the road untill Saturday, November fifteenth. They
come back Tuesday the eighteenth to play Utah at home,
so they're basically gone starting yeah Monday.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
They've already been gone.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
Right, they've been gone. They've been they've actually they've been
gone since November.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Eighth, So there you go. That's why he's practicing with
the G League. Yeah, okay, wrong.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
When do you all ever go support the G League?
I mean, you guys live.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I've been to a South I've been to a South
Day Lakers game.

Speaker 10 (40:11):
I have that might be fun to go to.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, what do they even play? A very long time
ago though, what do they play? Uh, it's like writing, yeah,
Elsea Gundo, he could.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Play on my patio and I'd go run errands.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Oh crap, well there you go. Oh man, that'll be
ten dollars ten. I'm they could be on my patio.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
And you are up for thirty. Though, for the guests, suck.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Appeal here Friday, that appeal hearing Friday, good luck.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I'm not getting anything from that

Speaker 1 (40:46):
You think Jonus
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