The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington go into depth on Kyler Murray's release which sets up his free agency journey. Plus, the guys discuss who has and who has not been tagged in the NFL, chat with Petros Papadakis, and more!!

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the hell we feel in here on this Wednesday morning? Jonas, Yeah,
feel good? Why do you feel good? Because I finally

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got some acknowledgment from Coop on the new Banger that
I chose for the for the open of the show.
About time, Coop, Hey some respects.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, it wasn't very good.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Damn wait to start off the show today, Jonas, is.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
That a new commando's hat? It's a commanders there you go?
All right, we're back, We are back, all right. So
so with that being said, how are you guys doing?
Everybody good? All feeling good here on this on this Wednesday?
Everybody fired up?

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I can't catch a breake traveling man, It's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Delays are one thing with flights, but then as I
as I'm heading out getting into the car to head
up to where I'm staying, I tell the driver's like, hey,
there's just a road shut down. You're going to have
to go a certain route. She didn't want to listen, man,
didn't want to listen. That trip that should have been

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forty minutes forty five minutes turned into an hour and
a half. She was very surprised when we hit a
whole lot of traffic. I'm going, this is why they're
going to replace y' all with robots. I was like,
I'm just talking right now.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was. I was open with her.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
I said, they're gonna They're gonna replace y'all with driverless cars.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I'm just telling you right now, I've already witnessed it.
Bro we were a part of it. I saw the future.
I was there, we were all there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
I kept thinking to myself that Waimo would have taken
the right way.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
She did. She didn't listen.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, and then you find out it's some part time
or in the Philippines with a remote control.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't grant that.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
If he's the right way, he's.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
He's so he swapped out some homeless guy on drugs
for hey, you know, let me let me install a uh,
you know, a legendary quarterback as my as my guy
in the car, and let me go ahead and to
throw a couple of employees as well too, And let
me just go ahead and kind of steer him around
the streets of San Francisco and nobody's going to notice anything.
And you just drop off and they miraculously just pull

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off and disappear. And everyone says, oh my god, it's
just the greatest invention in the world, only to find
out it's some dude in Manila who's sitting there operating
the entire thing from a shack, and everybody's it's a
con job that everybody believed and it.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Would have been better than what I had last night.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
But I will say this, that day was very revealing
for me LeVar with Jonas because the second he got
to attack something that couldn't attack him back, he took
that opportunity, and then we thought that was that was
very revealing talking trash.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
To a wavebout that that's that's a bunch of bs.
Because then we find out there is somebody to attack,
and it's some guy controlling the car from the Philippines.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Okay, I guy who's also probably you know, you know,
a buck thirty five foot two, you know, just trying
to do his job over there.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
He's bigger than that.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I mean him and Kyler Murray probably about the same height.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
That is uh, that is a fair points both done.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
It is both both need a job.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Not the.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You ain't got a job, you ain't got no job.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
The uh speaking speaking of jobs, whoa you those Twitter trolls.
I bet you they had what they if they thought
they knew today, I bet you things would change, all right.
Damn Enough with the blame game, right hand.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I wish people actually did the truth of what you
just said. That would be amazing. That is so vicious.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Oh yeah, it is. Sometimes you get blamed for stuff
that you had nothing to do with. Hey, yeah, and
then there's a reprieve. And then there's a reprieve. You know.
I don't know that there will be a public reprieve,
but there definitely was a reprieve. I'm sure somebody in
the Arizona Cardinals organization feels the same exact way.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, moving forward, they might. Kyler will be released by
the Arizona Cardinals when the new league year opens up
next Wednesday. Wednesday, is reported yesterday, which was, according to
these reports, Murray's preferred outcome. He wanted to be released.
He's already guaranteed just under thirty seven million dollars for

(06:10):
next year. Mike Floyer reporting there are two teams he'd
prefer to go to the vague The Raiders and the
Vikings were teams that he would have been interested in
to me, Minnesota feels like option A, and that seems
like the one that would make the most sense. We
talked about it earlier this week that you got quarterbacks

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around the league that look at that situation and set
up and go, that's one I want to be a
part of, and it might financially make sense from Minnesota
standpoint to where Look, Russell Wilson did this with the Steelers,
where the former team was on the hook for most
of the bill. He assign a small deal that the
new team has to pay out and cost effective wise,

(06:53):
you basically just run it for a year with Kyler,
get your competition for JJ McCarthy, and then go from there.
It seems like it would make the most sense.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
I have. I have thoughts on a bogoie a Q.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Well, no, I was just say, you know, he's already
earned over one hundred and seventy million in this career
so far.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I mean, that's that's pretty darn good.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
And I wonder we talk about numbers oftentimes about how
much guys have made at this point, because I always
wonder what are they going to be most attracted to
with this next opportunity For him, it might just be
an opportunity because of how things have worked out so.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Far in Arizona. But you know, is it money or
is it the best situation possible.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
You know, we've heard a lot of ties to the
potential of Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
That'd be really intriguing to see.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
You have Kevin O'Connell's the play caller, you have Justin Jefferson,
who's arguably the best receiver in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
I could see that that could make a lot of sense.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know, we talked about, you know, the New York
Jets yesterday with Pete Prisco.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
What are they gonna do? I mean, do they go
that route?

Speaker 5 (07:53):
It feels like there's a number of organizations that are
positioned themselves to tag maybe for your next year's draft
class while they rebuild around the quarterback position, and maybe
there's something that feel like they're more.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
In a window to compete and win right now.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
He's just such a unique talent, and in saying that,
there's definitely some drawbacks. But he's a player that you know,
if he's healthy, he could run, he could hurt you
with his legs.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
He can make all the throws.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
But I do think the offense if you looked at
primarily what they did in Arizona. You're going to be
in shotgun a lot. You're not gonna be under center.
That matters for some coaches versus others. I told you
guys a little bit just doing some of the Falcons
games last year. You know the conversations they had with
about Bejon Robinson when the quarterback was under center, how
much better of a running back he was.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
He was averaging almost two.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
More yards per attempt when quarterbacks were under center a
center in.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Atlanta last year when they were running the football.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
And so if you're in oc and you're seeing this, dad,
and you're looking at it and saying, man, we're actually
averaging two more yards of carry with our player arguably
the best running back in the league, it's hard not
to want to say we need to do more stuff
from under center. We need to do more play action
from under center too. Off of that and and boots
and everything else that goes with it. Well, when you

(09:12):
have a quarterback that's the size of Kyler Murray, you
can make that work. But it's a lot more obvious
that you're not gonna be doing as much drop back
pass because you can't see I mean there's it's just
hard to define throwing lanes unless he's getting out of
the pocket or setting deep deep back into the pocket.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
So that's the that's the one drawback to Kyler.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Murray is even though he's a talent's experienced that I
think he's, you know, one of those guys it's it's
worth bringing him if you want to try to win
some football games.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
There's gonna be some things that are gonna change.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
And if you look at Minnesota specifically, I look at
that pairing and say, yeah, that'd be it'd be great
to see what.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
He'd looked like in that system.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
But I don't know that that would help justin Jefferson
get more attempts, you know, we're excuse me, more targets
during the course of a game. I'd I feel like
they might be somewhat more limited with his ability just
sheerly from his size. I mean, I know we joke
about it sometimes, but in all honesty, it does play
a factor.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
And everything well, it plays a factor because he has
an injury history as well. Right like he dealt with
the foot the list Frank injury this this past season,
He's gone through an ACL repair and I mean he's
He's not old by any stretch of the imagination, but

(10:29):
he's certainly not young. So his size and his health
certainly needs to to play play a part. And if
you take a chance, I think this is a Boom
or Bush set up. I wonder what him being released.
I wonder what his price tag will be from him

(10:53):
and his representation. That could play a major part in it.
He may demand and command a franchise quarterbacks contract. How
will the franchises respond to that? Or there could be
the possibility that he wants to go somewhere where he
can get some get back for the way. You know,

(11:14):
players always feel like they were treated a certain way
when relationships. In this way, you can assume that he's
happy about the situation with Arizona. Thus the report saying
that this is the outcome that he wanted was to
get out of there. I heard you mentioned a team
yesterday when we were talking about potential destinations of quarterbacks

(11:39):
going and one of the teams that was thrown out
there was pretty interesting. And the first thing I thought
about when I heard this was this could be a potential,
very very big, big opportunity to everybody to get something
that they would want out of it. Could be the Rams.

(12:00):
The Rams could be an interesting landing place. He's familiar
with the division. It's it's a division that was, you know,
it was top heavy with two teams and the Rams
being the second team to Seattle Seahawks. And he get
an opportunity to play against the team that in some
type you know, in some ways threw shade at him.

(12:24):
I mean the whole video game and in the in
the contract, the constant badgering and conversations that played out
in the public and in the media about his his
you know, questioning his his dedication or his maturity level.
Get off of the video games, get into playbook things
like that. I mean, he could more often than not,

(12:47):
high level competitive guys would love to get an opportunity
to get back at their team. I know I did,
you know I had an opportunity to go to Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I chose the too far from there, right.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, right city, right, Yeah, you're wrong, Now that I'm
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
A round of a bloss for Brady point that way
to appeal to gamers.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
It would be interesting to see what Mike McCarthy wants
to do in Pittsburgh. You know that could be an
interesting destination. If I'm him, I probably want to stay
away from the Jets, and I probably don't want to
touch that. There's a little bit, but there's This makes
it a very interesting situation that it's a release. Else

(13:40):
you know, well, it's a it's a release, not a trade.
So this will make for an interesting scenario as to
how it plays out. One, where does Kyler Murray want
to play?

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Two?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Who wants them? And three are they going to be
able to meet halfway in terms of what what they're
going to want to give or what they're going to
want to take?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Can I can I read the.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Real quick go ahead.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
One of the reasons why he wanted the release too
is I don't believe he had no trade clause in
this contract, so he didn't want to leave it up
to Arizona to send him to whichever team was the
highest bidder via trade.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
So I think that had something to do with it.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Two and just the fact that if you looked at
the structure of the contract, you know it was going
to be a significant cap hit. And I don't know
that he wanted to put himself in a situation where
he didn't have any you know, guaranteed monies you know,
left on that deal, so that most likely was why
he opted for said it was like the scenario that

(14:42):
he wanted. I think I think it works for both parties.
You know, at the end of the day too, wherever
he signs, like they could get some competitory draft picks
that come their way, and so it probably works out
in the end if you really think about it, like
that's kind of likesory.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, when he goes and why is that if they're
releasing him, he's released, right? How does that work? That's
correct because.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
When you have when you move on and they have
a guy signed somewhere else, there will oftentimes be you know,
depending on what they bring in and what they let go,
they'll be rewarded compensatory picks, like a third round compensatory pick.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I wish I could explain the formula to you, but
it's like the most vague thing ever, And it's just
it's how it works, right.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Because I was confused as to why you would release
him if he has trade value.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Why would probably felt like they'll get a compensatory pick
out of it based on where he'll sign, but probably
a third rounder. And because that's probably what they could
get anyway. But again it's a very confusing process. If
you look at, for example, the fact that, uh, the
Atlanta Falcons, you know, get a general manager who comes
from the Chicago Bears, and you know, you think falls

(15:57):
into a certain category, and the Bears they.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Get some you know, drafted he's black.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, but of course they they say Matt Riens the
whole decision maker. So however that works, you know, the
Bears don't get any convent store packs.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
So by I heard that Kyler Murray actually that was
part of the concessions made in his contract with the
No Trade. He'd be given the ability to play call
of duty four nights a week. So that was part
of the get back on some of the feelings that
they had there. I'm just listen, I'm just reading what
what I was towing.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
He Actually he did have a good tweet like his
was a very tweet and I was gonna get to
that because LeVar makes it out like the guy.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Might have some venom in his in his body. Ready
to get back at.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
The card in there?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
All right, So this is this is from Kyler Murray.
This sounds like a very humble and gracious human being.
All right, from Kyler Murray to everyone that supported me
and showed kindness to my family and during my time
in Arizona, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
I wanted nothing more than to be the one to
end the seventy seven year drought for this organization. I'm
sorry I failed us. I wish this community and my

(17:02):
brother is nothing but the best. I am no stranger
to adversity. I'm prepared for whatever's next. I trust in
God and my work ethic. I truly believe my best
ball is in front of me, and I look forward
to proving it. God speed. That sounds like that didn't
sound like somebody's who's ready for some get back on
the Cardinals, all right? That sounds like somebody's who's appreciative.
And then he's going to go somewhere else now and

(17:25):
try and pursue his dream of winning a super Bowl.
That's what it reads.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
That's a good approach to to the rules of the
of engagement. So he learned a little bit more than
just switching weapons on duty.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I can't believe.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It, Yeah, do you?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
I mean?

Speaker 5 (17:47):
I have a been a gamer for a while. Is
it mostly called duty? You think because it wasn't that
what it's SYNCD up with, where like his useless time
and all that kind of syncd up with the call
of duty release.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I think, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm a chess guy.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
But you like them.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
He's taking shots of you know far you like them,
big or small bag?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah? Whatever?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, so hey, we'll get to see, uh because if
you look around, there's I don't know that there are
many as many options as maybe there might seem on
the surface for him, he's going to be.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
The most desired of all the potential quarterbacks you'd bring in.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Is that a fair way of putting it.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
But Pittsburgh I could I could see, if you know,
if they decide, Although if you're Pittsburgh, would you wait
around for Rogers to make the decision or would you
try and get the suspend with Kyler Murray and say, hey,
thank you?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Can I throw this out there?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I think everyone's waiting on Minnesota. I don't think it's.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
About Pittsburgh because I even think Rogers falls in that category,
you know, with the sniffing around that's been done in
the past by both sides. I mean, I think the
only thing that could be holding back Aaron Rodgers for
wanting to go to Minnesota and finish his career there
is the whole playing the Packers twice a year, but
also the fact that, like that's what Brett did.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I mean, they didn't follow the exact same path.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
But it's pretty damn close, you know, like there was
a Pittsburgh stop in between, and that's been the only difference.
But could you imagine if Rogers went to Minnesota to
and finished his career there. I mean, that's with that
team around him and Justin Jefferson to throw to him.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
My goodness. But I do think that's the domino.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
I think whatever Minnesota decides to do, it's that desirable
of an organization from every capacity.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
They look at the NFL PA report.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Cards or the ones excuse me that got elaked without
the PAS or whoever they're defining them. It's one of
the best organizations. They take care of the players. Kevin
o'conle's got an incredible relationship with his players and reputation
amongst players. I can't understate how good Justin Jefferson is,
and for a quarterback like that is, you know, if

(20:08):
you're going to try to leave and go to You
want a guy who can separate, you can make contested catches,
who could do it all.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
He's that.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
So I look at it and say, that to me
is the dominoes.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
And it's not even what quarter that's not what quarterback necessarily,
it's just what they decide to do, and then I
think everything else falls falls into place.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's got to be an awkward feeling for nine looking
around all these guys getting hit in the open damn
thing ever, and they and they all, they all want
his gig, and the Vikings all want somebody else other
than him.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
And he put it on a platter thang.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's just that's got to be ah got to be
a miserable existence. Because if the Vikings do end up
signing Kyler Murray, he's your starter. It's not even not
even a thought that that you would that you would
consider calling this an open competition like that, that would
be your starter, that you're that you're that you're looking
at and he's just gonna have to. It almost feels

(21:07):
like JJ McCarthy's entering Anthony Richardson territory to where they're like,
hey man, we spent a high draft pick on you,
but sorry, we got we got to move in a
different direction. And and it feels like the days are
number there. So it's too bad, too bad for UH,
for him and UH and everybody involved that went out

(21:28):
and spent money on a jersey and really supported him
coming out because it seems like the end is near
for JJ McCarthy. You know, we'll see the world.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Look, I mean, just like every the quarter we talked about,
he's got the opportunity and opportunity to revamp his career
and get that start of that process.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
So you know, who knows.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
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Speaker 4 (23:08):
He is on fire.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Here comes Jonas's hate.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Oh no, this is a banger. If Jonas hates on this,
then I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Hey bruh, Hey bruh.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
There's no hate on Soundgarden. Yeah, they got better songs
than this, but it's fine. It is what is this
killer bro get it far Black Owl Sun, Won't you Come?
Watch Way Rain, Won't you Come? Won't you Come? Easy? Yeah?

(24:07):
Just take it easy there. Uh it is two pros
and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Uh, there's
some sound Guards get some good songs.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
That one.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, it's a good song. No, it's a good song.
Good album too, by your song? Uh spoon I think
spoon Man is on that album as well, two of them,
not mistaken spoon Man, Pretty Noose? All right, No, but
what's what's the is it pretty Noose? I think it's
one of their songs. You have, but they've got They've
had some good hits, you know, one of the the

(24:45):
core four of the grunge era. There so good for
sound Guard. I was surprised. I thought you were gonna
stay with the Karate Kid for for a little while.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Hey man, you know, just keep you on y'all toes
that's all you know.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm into it.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
What's happened to hear it?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's a good song.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I like that song. I didn't change.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
I feel like after the last one that shout the
Isley Brothers really hasn't done it for you.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
M M.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I'm all right. I love the Isley Brothers. I was
giving you a hard time. Yeah, and that's you know,
and that's that it does for me because I'm a
duck dad, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
So so you get it.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, Oh I definitely. It definitely hits me. Yeah right,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I don't want to like it, but I mean, you know, yeah,
every time I go to a game that's you know,
play the duck.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, the fourth quarter. It's cool.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
But they do it for for the other sports too,
so like volleyball, they do it going into I believe
the last set of volleyballs.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
By the way, speaking of ducks, there's two ducks that
fly into the community quack quack mother the community pool
at the place I live at or yeah, black ducks
do or their mallards and they drink the chlorine pool water.

(26:12):
And I'm just looking at it, going there's no way
that's gonna end.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Well, look, that can't be good for ut the stool
up a little bit, you know what I mean? All Right,
they might not consume enough. Maybe over time and it'll.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Be I see some of the filth and the scumbags
that go into that pool. And I can't imagine those
those ducks are gonna last very long. I don't know
if the life expectancy is of a duck, but if
you're if you're somebody out there looking to, you know,
get a cheap meal, I'd look elsewhere. It's not gonna
not gonna go well. So, by the way, with the

(26:47):
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(27:07):
that were making moves and making decisions on the subject
yesterday around the league. All right, first and foremost, Daniel Jones.
The Colts are placing the transition tag on DJ, meaning
they can match any competing offer sheet the Jones may get.
If he gets one, he'll make thirty if he gets none.

(27:27):
He'll make thirty seven point eight million dollars this next year, right,
so if nobody signs him doing offer sheet, he's gonna
get almost it saves them.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
What's six million?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Right?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
He would have been paid forty three ish on the tag,
on the franchise tag.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's a good move for him.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's a good move for him, but I think it's
a good move for the organization too. Even though we
haven't seen this year since nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
I believe it was what the Falcons used. It was
on Jeff George, Is that right? Something along those lines.
But the last time it was used, there's only thirty
two games in the NFL and the Super Bowl champion
Seattle Seahawks they were playing the AFC, So it's been
a while since we've seen the transition tag used like this.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
I didn'ty I never even heard of a transition tag,
So go figure.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
You thought it applied to Jonas.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Didn't you. Yeah, Well he didn't pay up on his
his wager, so that's right. But yes, I would have
thought that it would have been based off man.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I don't even know if I can I don't know
if I can tell this story on the air of
this you can.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
And by the way, that isn't even I mean, that's
that probably makes you not a man of the people
more than anything else. When you lay a bet the
way you did about Tony Broum look getting the TV contract,
that now, by.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
The way, is so old that it's completely.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Reversed course for people like don't want to pay him
and don't want them to be on TV anymore.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Yeah. So that's that's how old that bet is, that
you never paid up.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, but that that is the ultimate on the right side,
wrong result bet. That's the one. Pete Prisco would be
proud of that one because I said there was no
way Tony Romo is getting that money, and he did.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
But hindsight is in your favor.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
But still there's a lot of people out there who
wanted to see you, you know, yeah, pay with the bet.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, I was every time I hear about it,
I want to I want to see if you're going
to pay it off. I mean, you know, it's never
too late.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
For the for the new audience. Lorena, do you have
that prediction on Tony Romo's contract that I made years
ago that if this sounds like it's ai generated, but
me Gander, they're they're claiming this is a real quote
from me. Regarding Tony Romo's second contract with CBS to
call games, there was some rumblings at the time that

(29:43):
he was going to get ten million dollars. As it
turns out, what did he get, like eighteen million a year.
I think that's what he ended up getting or something
along those lines. But he got paid, and there was
a debate about whether or not he was going to
get paid, and there's some.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
You're very adamant he was not going to get paid
I think over ten million, and by the way, he
almost doubled that.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I think Troy Aikman also thanked him for the money.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Well, everyone's just I mean, you could you could make
the case for Tom Brady, like even though tom Brady's
Tom Brady. I don't know that that number gets as
astronomical if not for Romo's money, because there there was
an element of looking at what those guys are making
and saying, well, this needs to blow that out of
the water. But if they never jumped from the you know, seven,

(30:32):
eight nine million a year numbers, it never doubles into
an eighteen nineteen, twenty million a year whatever they're bear making.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, I don't think we have the sound. I can't
find it.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
It is so someone did away with that.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
No, it's probably there, probably here somewhere. I looked under Tony,
I looked under Romo. I looked under Jonas Knox, Tony Romo,
Tony Romo knocks knocks locks.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I feel like Iowa Samo. I'm trying to thank you
he did.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I'm not sure we've got there's another folder that might
be deleted at this point based on you know, recent.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Happening fair point. Uh yeah, so, uh so Daniel Jones,
uh heuh he got the transition tag. So there's that
Trey Hendrickson of the Cincinnati Bengals. He will not get tagged.
There will be no franchise tag for Trey Hendrickson. He's
going to be an unrestricted free agent. He posted a

(31:28):
goodbye message on social media. Hopefully it just was a
little bit different than the driving away message he posted
last year, only to return to camp in Cincinnati. But
he's a goner and most likely get.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
To end up show a whole lot of Trey in today.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
There'll be a market for Tran Henderson. He's going to
be a Hall of Famer too, He got a he
got banged up last year. But Trey Henderson's gonna have
some options out there. Get to the quarterback. You got
got problems, man. What is the what's the market looking

(32:09):
like for Trey Hendrickson now in his thirties early thirties,
coming off an injury season, But somebody who's put up
numbers as far as getting to the quarterback, what do
we what do we think about?

Speaker 5 (32:20):
When he's healthy, he's he's effective. The problem is, I'm
not sure he ever cashed in on the big deal
he was, you know, looking to get so does he
go the mercenary route where he's taking it a one
year deal at a time to the highest bidder. Does
he try to go to a place where he feels
like he has a chance to win a Super Bowl?
You know, at this stage of your career, you know,

(32:40):
some guys have made enough money. Some guys want to
make more. It's basically one of those two decisions. Usually
they don't both work hand in hand. So that's that's
how I see it. But I would think that like
Buffalo would be a really interesting fit, New Englan would
be a very interesting fit, and something that LeVar talked about.
I kind of feel like Trey hendricks probably has a

(33:00):
red ass and he wouldn't mind staying in the AFC
and going back up against the Bengals. And those are
both teams too, in Buffalo and New England that I
think they're trying to improve and build back on that
side of the ball, especially with some edge rushers. And
I think he'd be a scheme fit for both those guys.
So that's that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Do you think that if he does get like if
he signed somewhere else, he'll be shocked to walk in
and go, wow, you guys have like running water, Like
I'm not used to this.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
He played, He played somewhere before he went to Senci, Right, you.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Guys, have you guys have a practice facility New Orleans,
New Orleans? Yeah, I don't. I don't know their facility,
but well we know the city. We were there last year. Yes,
So he went from here, New Orleans to Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
There is a market for mister Hendrickson and he should
be a pretty well sought after guy. I would obviously
make it contingent upon how he grates out on his
on his physical but in terms of recruitment of getting

(34:06):
him onto the onto my team and getting him to
the point of where it's like I'd rather have to
tell Trey Hendrickson, Yeah, your your physical show this, it
came back, these are red flags. We want to sign you,
but we probably can't give you what it is that

(34:28):
you're seeking, but we would love to have you. I
would rather do that than to go and lead with
that or or pass up, pass up on him altogether.
I think if he I think he still has an
upside for at least one to two seasons, like high
upside if if if he can stay healthy and if

(34:51):
if things you know, kind of shake out the right
way with with his his physical But I would I
would assume that there is a strong market, especially considering
that there isn't a ton of marquee talent that's going
to be set to be free agents this year's cycle,
As Pete Prisco has mentioned in his you know his articles.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, all right, so somebody else who also got.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Would you guys do it? Would you guys? Would you
guys take it? Like, do you feel like there would
be a legitimate market on him on.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
A two maybe three year deal?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah? I think so we've made the point he's the
same age as TJ. Watt. If TJ. Watt was available
on the market with people go after him. He's dealt
with ines too.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, you know what I mean, he got one punctured.
Let me think about that.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, you get you a dope pass rusher of that caliber.
There's going to be a market for him. The question is,
is can again, same thing and we talked about with
Kyler is within that market? Is Trey Hendrickson going to
look at it and say there's a premium on my
position and and so I want this amount or is

(36:00):
he going to be like, yeah, I get it. You know,
I've delt with injuries whatever, bla bla, let me get
it on a play a contract. I'm used to that anyway,
with what I've done in since he's so let's let's
let's play it out and see what happens better on yourself.
But then they're going to say you're a year older,
you're a year a hit. Like you know, maybe they're
not going to want to do that, but I mean
there's a market for Trey Hendrickson for.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Certain Yeah, And it puts to bed the long drawn
out drama that was his fiasco with Cincinnati over the
past couple of years. Somebody else who also is not
going to be tagged. Maybe this one comes iss a
little bit of a surprise. You guys familiar with the
name Kenneth Walker just won MVP in the Super Bowl.

(36:42):
The Seahawks not going to franchise tag as he's referred
to Kenny Walker by Patrick Sweeka. But he's going to
be an unrestricted free agent. Not a bad time to
hit the market after that run. He had to close
out last year into the postseason in the Super Bowl.
But now the Seahawks, you know, we figure out what
the plan is as Kenny Walker is going to be

(37:02):
on his way elsewhere if they don't come to terms
on a deal. So no, no tag for Kenny Walker there.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I mean, I hate to say it, but you know,
running backs in this league, man, it's it's tough sledding
for them. And I had these talented He showcased it, especially,
you know, having to be the bell cow two for
the final, you know, the postseason run for a Super Bowl.
But the reality is there is always a number of
guys coming in the league that can can do your job,

(37:32):
and that's the tough part is it's just it's hard
to capitalize nowadays a running back unless you are one
of those guys who's extremely dynamic. You know, we talked
about that with Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery. You know,
Beijon Robinson, sakwon like throw your name in that category
unless you're one of those guys who is a mismatch
in the passing game and also is that dynamic of

(37:53):
the backfield.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
It's just hard.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
And I'm not saying I mean, I think we do
all agree he's not any of those guys. He's a
damn good running back and he's capable. He's a capable catcher.
I remember coming out of college when he was at
Michigan State, like that was one of the knocks on
him as you'really don't catch many footballs, you know, could
he do it?

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And then he's he showcased the ability to do it.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
But it just it feels like, you know, he hasn't
really been the guy who's been highlighted in that spot.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
He's very capable. So I again, I think he'll he'll
find a home. It's just I don't think it's going
to be for a huge deal.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
And you know, maybe he'll get close to the tag
number as far as his average annual value, but I
can't imagine it's it's gonna be too much above that.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
He's going to be a seahawk. But at least they,
you know, maybe they explained to him why they don't
want to play the tag game with him. You know,
you could easily spin that conversation into a conversation of respect.
So could he be offended, Sure, you could be offended
because you want a new contract, But could you possibly

(38:56):
look at it from the standpoint of, you know, you
just played your hardt. We just want a championship, and
if there's someone out there that wants to offer you
more money, we're not going to make it a point to,
you know, penalize you, you know, in a way where
you could get somewhere, go somewhere else, make make the

(39:16):
money that you might want that might be more than here.
By trying to put the tag on you and and
them having to give us picks, and it could make
it go go wrong. Then you got to come back
and you feel like you weren't wanted. We want you,
but this is what we can pay. And and so

(39:37):
I just feel like he's a likable guy, and I
think there's a strong possibility that he ends up being
back with the Seahawks after this anyway.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I mean, if he's not, what's their planet? Running back
Charbona is injured. Yeah, you've got on the roster Kenny
McIntosh and George Hallani. I don't Maybe they just address
it in the draft to Brady's Maybe they just look
at and go, we'll take our chances with somebody in
the draft and and go that direction. But yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Thirty one old for running back. That's super old, isn't it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I mean I think most organizations would say that's old
for any player.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Any player. Yeah, yeah, I mean, what's.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
Think about it?

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Like, guys are they usually their contracts because and the
teams will do it this way, those guarantees run out
with that second contract around twenty nine, and they make
that decision head into thirty.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah, you know he's most likely, he's the most I mean,
do you think that maybe they're going to go after briefs?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Well, no, he got he got tagged.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
He got tagged.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, he was next up on the tag or not
to tag. He got to tag. So he's gonna make
a little over fourteen next year, and uh probably thrilled
about the idea of sticking around in New York.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
But the Jets, there's there's really no other etn Like
that's there's really no other running back. JK. Dobbins is
going to potentially I think he's going. Is he going
to be available? I think he'll be. He'll be. He's
an interesting back that if he you know, if he

(41:17):
performs up to to standard, you know, he just never
really got going in the two steps that he's been
at thus far, like all the way. But I don't know, man,
it seems like a risky, a risky move on Seattle's
part because their running game was such a major part

(41:37):
of what they have going on.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Can I let me ask you as this as longtime
football fans, because I feel this way, does it kind
of bum you out that the running back position is
where it's at that it's almost one of.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
The most prestigious It was the most prestigious outside of
the quarterback that.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Was that was the star position outside of quarter Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Absolutely, And it's just and some would say they were
like right there, like neck and neck. Like if you
think about the historical you know, names that are connected
to our game. You know, I bet you there's more
people that know about historical running backs than they do quarterbacks.
I mean, if we're being honest, like you go back

(42:21):
to the days, I don't know about that. Oh yeah,
oh yeah. Name a bigger quarterback name in the Jim
Brown era. There is none. There is none.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
I'd say, what why is his name escape right now?

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Because because it ain't. It ain't well because I have.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
To think of the years he was there. But like
Johnny Uniteds was a pretty big deal back then.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
It's a big deal, not even close to Jim Brown.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I mean, that's your opinion. There's people who might not
feel that way, like I'm not. Like Jim Brown was
obviously a monumental figure for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
It wasn't just what.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
He did in the field, you know, his acting is
that's fair, push for civil rights like he was. He
was one of those athletes that transcended just being an athlete.
So I think that's He's an interesting one to bring up.
But I do think there's a lot of other really
really well known like quarterbacks. I mean, and I know
the league wasn't always about quarterbacks, but it's still they're

(43:21):
still kind of looked at it that way, and you
could call me biased for saying it, but I would
say at a certain point in time, there's no doubt
there are much more.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Even I don't. It hasn't been viewed that way for
a long time, and I'm not sure it ever will
go back. Now the way the game is, especially the
way they're pushing seven on seven in flag.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
You know well that it's a quarterback. It is all
the way quarterback. Now it's not even close. But in
those days, at one hundred percent was the running back. Again.
I know we had the debate on how many times
the percentage of throwing the ball, but keep in mind
the only time that we were at fifty percent fifty

(44:00):
to fifty for running the ball was like in the
nineteen forties. The percentage has always been higher to throw
the ball. But the importance look it up on your
spare time, the yeah, look it up the time right now?

Speaker 4 (44:15):
The important AI, buddy, This stuff happens fast.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Well, go ahead, check it out way moment. The bottom
line here is that the game was driven by backs.
That's why you're called a quarterback. It was running like
quarterbacks were backs, So you had half backs, you had
full backs, you had you had, you had quarterbacks. So

(44:39):
it was a it was a game of triple options.
It was a games of you know, stutent body left,
stutent body rights. It was all about running. The game
was truly built off of the trenches and the runners.
It wasn't the ball was shaped differently. It wasn't about
throwing the ball. It was about handing it off, pitching it,

(45:03):
and running it. So there was a time where the
back who carried and ran the ball was the most
critical important piece to the offense in football. And so
it just is what it is, and it has evolved
and has continued to evolve, and people love seeing the
deep ball being thrown and people running catch it and

(45:24):
do those things. That's what turned into the entertainment value
of it.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
How far back do you want to go as far
as the run pass split percentages in the NFL or
with NFL franchise, I should say, obviously, you know the.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
NFL far back.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We got to get to break and we tease it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Come on, let's go to break.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah, we get to break, and we'll let's go to bread.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Let me, let me, let me tease it this way
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(46:45):
Unlike any other. He is Petros Papadakis. He is the
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can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seventy LA
Sports Fox college football analysts and get them on X
at the Old p Petro's good morning, good morning, Hello.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Good morning, good morning.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
Hello everybody, Hello, Hello, good morning.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
All right, Petro's. I was listening yesterday and I caught
the tail end of the conversation.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
By the radio show I work on it the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Petro's some Money, and I heard you mention that you're
not a big fan of Nike, and I was just
where that where that started?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
And why that?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Why that's the case.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Well, it's not because they're making a Bronnie James shoe
with like a little lowercase B with a nine or
a nine in it, because it's Brownie and nine.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
But uh yeah, doesn't JJ McCarthy have that trademark at
this point.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
No, there's a trademark for Bronnie.

Speaker 6 (47:49):
It's a bee, a lowercase B with a nine in it,
and you can buy it now on the Nike website
under the lebron shoe and they only come in pink.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
All right?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Is it not kidding? Is it for breast awareness? No?

Speaker 5 (48:07):
It's for Bronnie, but I called Brontober breast cancer Awareness.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Well I do. I'm aware. I'm aware, like I'm not blind.
I see it. But so you're gonna get a pair?
I mean, where are we going with this? I don't know.
But Jonas asked me about it.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Well, no, I asked, what we do?

Speaker 6 (48:29):
We don't call Bronnie James Bronnie James on our show.
We call him Johnny Braims.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Because I'm just wondering because you kind of swore off.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
And brown Lames.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
You kind of swore off Nike as a whole, and
I was just wondering why that was.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Well, I'm legally crippled, Jonas.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
I have a I have a cadaver bone in about
seven or eight uh screws and pins in my right foot. Actually,
I've had the bad foot longer than I've had the
good foot, because I broke it in my early.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Twenties and I that was in.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
A Nike, one of those Nike cleats that we would
wear back then, and so ever since then, I've never
worn another.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
I never liked Nikes anywhere.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
They're too skinny on my wide feet.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
And so and now I can't even wear shoes that
have an arch because I have.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
No arch in my right foot and I'm in a
lot of pain. So I wear Chucks and.

Speaker 6 (49:23):
Vans that are just flat, and I walk around like
a flat foot hustler. Now, when I had to play
one more year with the badfoot, after a year of
surgery and infection, I wore one Nike on my left
foot and which is still a size thirteen, and my
right foot, which is now an eleven and a half

(49:45):
I wear I wore an Adidas with the logo removed
and a Nike logo sewn onto it. So, yes, was
that the story you.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Wanted, Joe, I had no idea that.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
And so your foot shrink a size and a half
following the surgery, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Well, which surgery, jonas it was? It was kind of
an ordeal.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Well the uh yeah, I'm assuming you know it would
have been an ordeal for to shrink that much.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
And I blame Nike and Phil Knight and the Swoosh
and the Organ Ducks and Tracktown USA and Kaepernick and everybody.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
All right, there's that one.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Anybody who's ever worked for Nike blame the moment.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Steve Free Fontane can get it too.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Howard Slusher, the guy that helped start it.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
He used to come in my dad's restaurant all the
time to hell with you.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
He was a really nice guy.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
What what are your feelings about the Lakers right now
and where they're currently You know where they're sitting right now.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Well, I think it's the same as it always is.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
They're going to beat really bad teams like they barely
did last night, and then there's going to be an
argument on the twenty four hour shows that the Lakers
are fine and look at Lebron's numbers and blah blah blah,
and Lucas scored forty and then they're going to play
decent teams or teams that are good, and they're going

(51:17):
to lose, and they're going to lose badly. So that's
kind of where they are. That's not where you want
to be as an NBA team is in the middle.
You either want to be contending or loading up to contend,
and they're not there, and they don't seem to like
each other very much. Almost everything Lebron says or does
is a terrible contradiction of his past. And we just

(51:41):
live in the world it really does feel and I'm
sure I said this on your show, but the Lakers
kind of feel like a parent who's got a kid
who they're trying to get to leave the house, and
that kid is Lebron, and they can't do anything. They
can't create any of their dreams or execute their plans

(52:06):
for the guest room making it a gym or an
office or whatever when Lebron is still there. So everybody
knows Lebron is the problem. Lebron's salary, Lebron's contract, Lebron's
attitude and playing with Lebron, all the stuff that we've
seen over the years, people getting fired, people getting moved,
all the contradiction, dictory stuff that comes along with getting

(52:30):
nailed by the King. It's just going to happen until
the end of the season, and the Lakers can't really
move until then. So I think it's just they're in
a very, very awkward position, and whenever they win, all
the Lebron media minions go out and talk about how
awesome everything. Whenever they lose, they run for the hills

(52:51):
or blame somebody else. Now everybody's getting after Luka Doncic
in town because I guess he is kind of a
bitch complaining.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Yeah, he complains a lot, I guess, and he's like lost.

Speaker 6 (53:02):
His mind complaining. He can't even control himself anymore. He
got a technical complaining after missing a free throw last
night when they actually did call the foul for him
and he was still complaining. He missed the free throw
that he went over and started complaining and they called
him tech.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
So it is.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
It's a pretty amazing thing to watch develop, but it's
more like always, like pretty much every year other than
the Bubble Championship, which we can argue about forever, it
feels like the same as every other Laker team that
Lebron's been on. Something that's going to be over soon,
but everybody's going to talk about it all the time

(53:41):
until it's over and after it's over, and Lebron's gonna
make it all about himself and his legacy and Johnny
Braims and his pink shoes, and it's never gonna end.
Once the year's over, we'll see what the Lakers can
do trying to build around Luka, Doncicch and Austin Reeves.

Speaker 4 (53:58):
Every time you see Neil the King, you're getting nailed
by the King.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
I just I keep thinking this is gonna be some
sort of docuseries that comes out in Elvis Presley that's
not gonna be too favorable to him.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
I don't know why that just flashes in my my brain.
It was the colonel's fault. What happened to Elvis?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Okay, it was the colonel's fault.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
I'm just saying, I want to trans.

Speaker 5 (54:23):
I'm sure you saw that the state of Mississippi has
apparently done away with Standingham tax on ANIO law which
was you know, put forth and prompted because other surrounding
states like Tennessee and Florida and Texas, so they're competing
with within the SEC, are doing the same thing. Which,
mind you, those states don't have standinghum tax for anyone,

(54:45):
let alone in i ol money. I know there's I
know there's some issues in the state of California, like,
for example, that lax rail connection.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
That's still four years late. That's not gonna be ready
for the World Cup. Do you think there's a chance, Brady,
here's a here's.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
A newsflash for you.

Speaker 4 (55:03):
That thing ain't never going to be ready.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
Breather to get the World Cup, forget the Olympics, forget
the Olympics in thirty forty four.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
That thing ain't getting ready. I'm just wielding that.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
If UCLA USC Stafford, if those schools can lobby Gavin
Newsom to do it the Sittingham tax in the state
of California for the nil.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
So that California can be more competitive in that nature.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
Well, I think they have a lot more to weigh
through here when it comes to anything, and I do.
I don't think it's going to happen in California. I
think we tax people just for breathing here in California.
If you own a house and stuff like that, they'll
tax the hell out of you that on the other hand,
or nil, you know.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah, well I don't know.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
Yeah, But in Louisiana, I think that's pretty funny.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
So we will not allow these young.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
Workers to be declare oh my wife, young miss lady Anna,
she created the beautiful chandelier that hangs here in the groove.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
And we will not allow these young men to be
exploited and tasked by the state of Mississippi. That's a
wonderful thing.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I think.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
I think it's hilarious. What's happening at some judge who
literally has like Lane Kiffen T shirt on an old
miss T shirt under his robe probably made that decision.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
But yeah, like.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
It is kind of funny because college football is a
government thing in a lot of states.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
I mean it really is.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
The highest paid person in this state or that state
is either the football coach or the men's basketball coach generally, and.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
So states are involved.

Speaker 6 (56:53):
I remember Louisiana, the governor when they fired Brian Kelly
came out and had all this stuff to say, and
it's the guy or the state. Like everybody's saying, like,
don't you have better things to worry about?

Speaker 4 (57:03):
And the answer is no.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Football is a huge deal, uh in these places, and
their identity is through Ole miss Or or Mississippi State,
probably to a lesser degree. And I it's just because
somebody is a judge doesn't mean that they don't have
blood running through their veins and they're not a human
being and you don't.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Have those kind of biases.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
And I do love the fact that, like, like Leonardo
DiCaprio's character and Django unchained Mississippi's like.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Oh, come downhill, now you know.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Things guys, Okay, I like Samuel.

Speaker 9 (57:45):
Jango, you black son of a bit you can't let
him sleep in the house dango.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Eating.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Hey, you do you think Lancido had an agenda back
in the day?

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Was he a big lance Edo?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Was he a big usc honk?

Speaker 6 (58:11):
All I know is that Lancito loved the Ovgo lemano
soup at my father's restaurant, made with lemon, chicken, broth
and rice.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Sounds good. That sounds really good and egg. Hmmm, it's
very good. Actually, it's a good site at the ivy yesterdays.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
What up?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Nine? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:34):
That tracks that?

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Yeah, it does. You won't tell you you won't come
meet me downtown and Rodondo's.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
I went out. I had dinner in Redondo the other
night with my wife.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Where we go?

Speaker 6 (58:49):
We went to the new Italian restaurant that's over there,
ill posto.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Thanks, thanks for the invite.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
I should have invited you, sweetheart. Have you ever heard?

Speaker 6 (58:59):
I know it's our only together and a lot of
the but the kids are in Catalina camp. Let's let's
let you do you remember a linebacker named Lear.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Don't even have to leave with that, just say I'm
coming to hang Let's.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
He's coming down to meet us. He lives in the
Hollywood River.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Ea, damn that sucks. Petros. You don't you don't love me?

Speaker 4 (59:24):
No, I should have done it. I should have.

Speaker 8 (59:27):
Know.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
You used a whole lot of sarcasm there, and you
know what, you've been picking on me all show. Now
you get on that.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Why what did you know?

Speaker 6 (59:35):
Me?

Speaker 3 (59:36):
And I just get he's a hater.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
And he's just as they said about it.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
They did an easy target for you. Guys, have no
idea why I do not have Young.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
First of all, let's start this out.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Let's start that's funny. It's not it's not funny at all.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
Number one, number one Jodas Man, he'll sit out. I
enjoyed the restaurant. But they did charge me for bread.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Oh man, that's what they do these days. Five bucks.
I mean they charge you for for sauces two condiments
like you know, catch up and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
What kind of bread are we talking about, Just like
your standard run of the mill.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
Yeah, they toasted it. They served him with some vinegary stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
They toasted it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Uh. You know, it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Is Trey Young a hall of famer?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
That well, first will be a Hall of famer? Will
he be a Hall of famer?

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
Do you think what I noticed about him the other
day is his hair is really filled in, like whatever
whatever he did, Like, you know, he had a bad lid.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
He's that Beijing what do they call it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
He didn't get that, but that's paint. That's I don't
know that he has the type of architexture where Beijing
would help him, Like yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
He almost looked like one of those guys from the
eighties who had a curl and he was losing his hair.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
In fact, that's exactly what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
He looks at.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
That is what it looks like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
For a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
And now I on the other night, kid kicked out
of the game when he wasn't really even in the
game or wasn't dressed, I wasn't playing, and he hasn't
played yet for the Whiz.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
I think he's coming back soon.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
But he got kicked out of a game the other
day and I saw his lid and I was like, wow,
that is really filled it in.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Like somebody's bound to figure it out. I mean, yeah,
Lebron hasn't figured it out. He was fighting it now,
he was fighting it with the Beijing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
He figured it out.

Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
Whatever, whatever Lebron has done over the years, he has
figured out his hair not lately.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Have you seen his head lately? Not lately.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
Maybe that's because of his furious postgame skull brushing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
But what is LaVar? What is he brushing exactly? He
doesn't have much hair up there, Like what.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
You got to stimulate the follicles, man, That's why you
brush it. If you brush it, you're stimulating the follicles,
which could some way, somehow potentially have your hair start
to sprout. It has to be like a tad bit
of a like sometimes you have to have firmer bristles.

(01:02:07):
It can't be super soft so that it can kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Looks like scratching off.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
His skull was doing that well, because you got to
really really stimulated, you know, like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
The X route, the X F foul is gonna come
back before.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Lebron Tommy Maddick's statue, Knight, They're gonna bring it all back.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
I was playing with him the La Street team.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Well they called me run over and oh yeah it was.
Our whole offensive line went too. But I'm crippled. I
can't do anything. Remember we talked about my foot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
How long did it take for you to give up
on football? Like? You know how guys are done with football.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
But that was when I kept playing for a year
with my one skinny leg.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Okay, dang the mersa leg.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
I had to get a shot in the bottom of
the foot before every game my last year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
So that was I could dig the nectar of the
gods shot. Bruh, I get that. That's what it was
with me the last too. Yeah, no doubt who's lined
up there? Oh that there's the key trade. Everybody h
like you was getting free food.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Anyway. I don't know why you hate Trey Young so much.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
I don't. I don't, But you never answered the question
is he a Hall of Famer? Do you think he's
a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I don't know. Like I don't work.

Speaker 6 (01:03:30):
I don't work with Steve, I don't work with Steve
Brussard and Squidward, I don't either answer that question.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Chris Chris Broussard, Nick Wright good Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Steve Broussard was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
A running back for Washington State. Yeah he was. Anyway,
his brother coaches a valley.

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Yeah, they both got into coaching. I think the Bruard
brothers I hate talk about lid that Bruceard guy's got
an interesting lid.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
G So I'm glad you went there because our producer
Patty Sweet He's he's got a pretty big dome too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
He says that the guy that text me every Tuesday.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
Yeah yeah, let me tell you about the way this
guy text me, Hey, Petros.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Oh wait, hold on, I got it. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:04:15):
He's always like he was wondering if you could join
the guys tomorrow morning for the show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
And I always right back, okay when I've done for you.
They did this for six years with Klay Travis, same thing,
and uh and he writes back, great, I'll tell the
guys every time. I'll tell the guy like and I
always imagine him like going back, like to the center
of the neighborhood where you guys are playing like stickball

(01:04:44):
or something, and going like, hey, guys, guess what could
you do that rambunctious rascal the old piece coming on?

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
He says, I mean, you've never told us that Petros
confirmed for the show.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You just you just assume.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
I guess you always you never tell us.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Wow, No, no, he tells one person in particular, que
So just but I'm glad you brought that to life,
you know, I'll tell the guys. Yeah, he tells one person.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Right, it's almost like great, I can't wait to tell
the guys like you know something like you know, like
it's like we made the championship game in the stickball League.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
You know, wait till the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Patty's too nice for this business. He really is. He's
too He's too innocent for this business.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I'm gonna change my style next text, trust me.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
I'll switch it up with you next week.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
Pet No, no, no, no, you don't have to text
at all, like I'm coming on.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Don't worry. I'll let you know if there's a problem.
Just like the sun.

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
You know, on Wednesdays, you're gonna get a dose of
Petress in the morning.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
We used to have this guy who's like a stack.
We still have him, Chris, a stat guy for everybody.
But he works every once in a while with play
by play guys I work with a long time, like
even the guy worked with when I was in my
mid twenties early twenties, Barry Tompkins.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
And it's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Great boxing announcer by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
Yes, combat sports, but it's very interesting because usually, you know,
when you call a game, you stat guy or the
spotter or something mal materialize at a certain point at
dinner with you or or somewhere or driving you guys somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
They're around, as Brady can attest to.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
But this guy's like the Phantom of the Opera and
he never shows up until like right before the game,
he like spins into existence. You're like, where are you
coming from? He's like, Wow, I just did a Tuskegee
game down to the Like You're like, damn, you know
where are you going from here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:53):
Wow? I'm gonna drive myself to Boise.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
I got two women's games, like damn, And he just
like appears like the Phantom the Opera. And I'd like,
I'd like, uh, the young producer to think of me
as that guys when I listen, when I get like
an excited when I get like an excited text from

(01:07:15):
like somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Like hey, brother, do you think you committed?

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
Like I think like it's going to be something else,
not something that's already built into my life, which is
this show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
So Patty stopped hitting Petro.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
I mean, you could do whatever tell you, But he
doesn't need to act all hard like you know that
the next one, like, hey, hey the old bitch, come on,
hey big nose.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Yeah, listen, Petros once did the show while his house
was flooding, you know, so.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
They the house the room that I do the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
He was in the standing water. I'm doing talking Lebron.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
I probably shouldn't. What's up with the Lakers?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Same as last year. They're gonna lose to the first round.
Lebron's an a hole.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Petro's always a good time. We appreciate it. He is
the great Petros Papadegas money show on the Blowtorch Am
five to seventy.

Speaker 6 (01:08:20):
I feel like it's in an episode of our game, like, hey,
you guys coming out today to party.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Fox caltim Pol analysts get him on X at the
old p Petros will do it again next week. All
right there he is, all right there he is now,
you know Patty, See yeah, I knew. Hey, it's more
feedback than you get from some guests on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:08:43):
I know that.

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