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store for details. Yeah, man, you know some people don't
require those oh no, no, no, hey, to each their own,
all right. So with that being said, Stephen Jones, who
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is kind of running the show there in Dallas, and
the guy who's making some decisions, the executive vice president
by the way, you hear his other on here. He'll
drop in from time to time and talk about Mexico
and glory holes and things like that.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Jerry's got a direct line.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
He's actually he's got a comraq setup from the Jerry Dome.
Uh yeah, so he'll just he'll just pipe in whatever
he feels like it. It's kind of wild, so I
won't made some glory Jerry. It's a right show for
you pal, so you ain't gonna get Micahs. So Stephen
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Jones was talking with Adam Shine of Serious XM about
the Micah Parsons trade. Now that it's all said and done,
you know, the picks are in, the choices have been made.
Mike is in Green Bay. By the way, I did
get word that he is expected to return early next season.
Uh that according to the Packers who talked about that yesterday.
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But uh coming off the knee injury from Micah that
he suffered in Denver last year. But Stephen Jones talked
about where they stand, how they feel post trade now
that everything the dust is settled, the players are in Dallas,
Mike is in Green Bay, and he said this, we feel.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Really good about it. Obviously much respect for Micah and
what he stands for and what hew he plays and
the caliber player he is. But you know, at the
same time, we feel good about what we've added, you know,
via that trade. And you look at a guy like
Quintain Williams and Kenny Clark, they're you know, they're alpha
players who not only are great players on the field,
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but they're leaders in the meeting rooms. How they go
about their business in the offseason, just bring great leadership
to this team. I just feel very optimistic that we
have the right pieces in place to go out and uh,
you know that ultimately, you know, the decision we made
was you know that multiple player. One player is not
worth you know, four or five good ones. And we
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feel like that's where we're going to end up here
and in a good spot. And uh, you know, we
had that opportunity there and and feel like we were
one player away last year. But I certainly feel like
we're putting the pieces together, you know, to give us
an opportunity to go do what our fans deserve, what
we want, which is to go try and win the
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big trophy.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I know the heat that they feel good about it.
And of course he's going to say that they're not
going to say, man, we really screwed that up. And
I totally get the idea that, hey, you brought in
all of these other pieces. You went out and got
Quinn Williams, you made all these other moves. You like,
you know you're not going to win a super Bowl
because of one player, you feel better about having a
bunch of other players. But I still can't help but
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think that a lot of those moves they made after
the fact are because I think everybody recognizes, yeah, you
kind of screwed that one up, like you kind of
screwed that one up. I know you got a ton
in return, and I know you got a bunch of
other players in return, but it's hard to argue with
the fact that any of those guys that you brought
in is not the caliber of player Michael Parsons, who
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from my understanding, and listen, you know him way better
than I do, LeVar, But from my understanding, it's not
like he wanted to leave. It's not like he didn't
like Dallas, and yet for some reason it felt like
a Jerry Jones Micah Parsons riff, whatever Jerry's issue.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Is, whether it was the agent, whether it was whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Of all the deals that Dallas ultimately ends up getting done,
that felt like the most obvious and it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Respect I think he gave what he felt was his
proper reasoning for the situation. But I always find it
strange when something doesn't go right and doesn't unfold the
way that you wanted to unfold, Like you can still
give the man his props as a person, Like, yeah,
everything he said about him was based off of him
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as a player. Like if you listen to the quote again, like,
do you have a cute up Lorena about his quote? Like,
listen to how he explains Michael Parsons. When he's done
explaining Michael parsons hip pause, I just want to like
illustrate this all right, Listen to the way he talks
about go ahead, hit play.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
We feel really good about it. Obviously much respect for
Micah and what he stands for and what hew he
plays and the caliber player he is. But you know,
at the same time, we feel good about what we
had right.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
There right there.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, like, okay, what he stands for, you gave no context,
you gave no clarity on it, and then it just
went right immediately into the type of player.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
He's a player, player, player, player, right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Now, listen to what he says about the guys that
he brought in after Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Listen what he says, same time, we feel good about
what we've added, you know, via that trade.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And you look at a.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Guy like Quintain Williams and Kenny Clark, they're you know,
they're alpha players who not only are great players on
the field, but they're leaders in the meeting rooms, how
they go about their business in the offseason. Just bring
great leadership to this team.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Now play Michael Parson's part again.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We feel really good about it.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Obviously, much respect for Micah and what he stands for
and what hew he plays and the caliber player he is.
But you know, at the same time, we feel good
about what we've had.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
He's not an alpha man. He's not an alpha.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
He's not a good player on and off the good
person on and off the field. He doesn't bring leadership.
He doesn't prepare well on the off season. What hey,
come on, man, Like you can have your opinion, which
is fine, have your opinion, but don't diminish somebody because
it didn't work out. As good as Kenny Clark and
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Quinn Williams are, they're not Michael Parsons put together. Put
them together, Quinn Kenny Clark equal not Michael. It does
not equal Michael Parsons. So you can say Michael Parsons
is a generational talent. You can say Michael Parsons transformed
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not only our team but the NFL.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
On the defense side of the ball.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Michael Parsons is not what you would consider to be
a prototypical defensive end. But yet this new way of
talking about players that play on the edge or edge edge,
that's your title edge. It's guys like Michael Parsons who
have redefined just like a just like a Lawrence Taylor
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did when he came along. He was so good that
he redefined the position. Reggie White came along, he redefined
the position. You have to mention Michael Parson's name in
the same bread is Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White to
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go along, to go further and say that quantity outweighs quality,
you got to give yourself pause on that moment, and
you have to really think it through. Would you have
said that about Troy Aikman, Would you have said that
about Michael Irvin? Would you have said that about Emmett Smith?
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Would you have said that about Larry Allen? I don't
think so. I do not think that Jerry Jones or
Steven Jones would actually fix their face to say a
player as impactful as they were for that team at
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twenty five years old. I don't care he got hurt
this past year.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't care.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
He's young enough he's actually young enough to recover from
a knee injury that isn't catastrophic anymore. It's just commonplace
to get it, get it fixed, and get back and
play at just as high level. You're telling me, at
twenty five years old, that quantity will always outweigh quality.
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I think that's a I don't think that that's that's
an honest statement. I think that they're they're embarrassed by it.
They're trying to to stay faced on it. Just give
that man his props and say we didn't want to
pay him for one reason or another. We don't want
to pay him. We went this direction. Hopefully we can
get through what we need to get through. Hope he
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gets back healthy and is able to play a game.
But don't don't do that. Let me let me ask
you a question, lightweight Shade. Don't do that.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
If the decision maker, the de facto GM in Dallas
wasn't a Jones, would they still have a job. No,
Because I look at that, And the reason I bring
that up is because you know Messi Ujeri, who just
took over making the decisions for the Mavericks, and he
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made he had a quote talking about the Luca trade
because obviously Nico Harrison made the call.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
He's out of a job. You know, that just didn't
go well for anybody.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And his point was, look, we got to stop thinking
about that. You know, we have Cooper flag now. And
he said, you know, there's an old saying in Africa
that when a king leaves, a king arrives, and so
now we need to focus on the new king that
is in town. And he's saying that because he's taking
over the leftover of a bad decision. And the reason
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why he's taking over is because that bad decision costs
the other guy his job. And I look at it
and I go nobody anywhere thought that trading Micah Parsons
was ay even a possibility. Every inside was saying, yeah, listen, look,
I think ultimately they're going to get it done.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
The deal's going to get done.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
And then as it went on, I was like, wow,
this this feels like it's personal. So if it was personal,
if this wasn't a family tie connection, being the person
who was making the decisions and making the call on
that move, I wonder are they still there? Does it
seem if it's not a family member.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You don't make that decision like, let's stop right there,
let's stop right there. If it's any other GM in
the National Football League, even even if he was in
New York with the Jets. You know what, you know what,
Woody Allen's kids would have said, Oh, his Madden rating
is Audy Johnson.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Woody Johnson, I said, Harrelson, you should Woody Allen.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Allen.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Who's Woody Allen?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
That is it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Weirdough? Okay, his kids would.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Have looked at his his Maden rating and have been like, Dad,
pay him. Matt says, his ratings makes it worth the money.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Pay them. Even if he was with the Jets, they.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Would have paid Michael Parsons, I guess the point I'm
getting at is that football is the ultimate team sport.
It is often related to military, the connection to it,
the strategy, the camaraderie, the suffering to get in to shape,
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the perseverance, the strategize and it's just so many different things.
You have generals, you have different ranking officials, you have
foot soldiers, you have special ops. You have every single
element that is relatable to a military. And when you
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look at how you have to operate within the military,
it's a selfless You have to have selflessness in your heart.
You have to have teamwork and ultimate team goals in
your mind. And it has to be one of the
most difficult ways of balancing self and selfless. It's one
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of it's you have to have the belief that you're
the best, but at the same time you have to
be humble enough to to integrate and to mesh with
the other personalities, not just the players and teammates, but
also coaches and coaches have to do the same thing,
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and so do owners, and so do gms. This strikes
me as it is a significant stench of arrogance that
is going into the decision making and it's most likely
probably the biggest reason why Dallas can't seem to figure
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it out. I'll take a fine. Here we go.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You have, oh the judges in here today. F him.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
You have when I got to Washington. You have North
Turner as as your head coach, offensive guru, great mind.
They bring in Ray Rhodes as a defensive coordinator. Now,
if you remember Ray Rhods, heck of a defensive coordinator.
It didn't work out so well as a head coach,
but he was pretty good as a head coach Philadelphia
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coach Ray Rhodes. You had Terry Rubisky as your offensive coordinator.
Dope mind, amazing mind. You have Brad Johnson Jeff George
as your quarterbacks. You have Stephen Davis, Skip Hicks in
your backfield. You have Albert connolld Irvin Fryar, Michael Westbrook,
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James Thrash at your receiver's position. You have Dion Sanders,
Darryl Green, Champ Bailey, all in the same defensive backfield,
all on the same field, all on the same roster.
You had Big Daddy Wilkinson, You had Dana Stubblefield up front,
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Canard lang In, d Kalou All these are successful football players,
amazing football players. Marco Coleman, you had an amazing roster.
You brought in Chris Samuels in that draft. You brought
in LaVar Arrington in that draft. You had Mark Carrier
as a safety. You brought in Bruce Smith as a
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free agent. This was one of the most loaded teams
from top to bottom, from coaching staff through personnel, and
we still didn't win. What we didn't know at the
time because it was Dan Snyder's first group, that was
his first go at it. What we didn't know at
the time is the arrogance that existed with Daniel Snyder
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and the arrogance in which he ran the organization, and
ultimately it was his undoing. Now, Jerry Jones, they don't
undo themselves. They it seems like they've done things that
they could try to have undone themselves, as him being
the owner of the Dallas Cowboys, but he's too influential
and he makes too many good moves, and it's just
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nothing has been his undoing in terms of him owning
the team. But in terms of winning, I think that
growth of arrogance and that that enduring arrogance that that
they have as ownership in GMS, and how they make
their decisions and how they run the building and how
everybody does their jobs. It is clearly the reason why
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the Dallas Cowboys continue to come up short in trying
to be a Super Bowl winning team.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, it's not They're not short of talent.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean they for what if to say whatever you want,
They've drafted well, they've drafted Hall of famers, They've they've
done well. You know, Dak Prescott's been a really successful
quarterback and he was what a fourth round pick like
they've Dallas has done a good job, Tony Romo had
really good years there. Jason Witten is one of the
all time, you know receivers. Like it's it's not as
if an offensive line of.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Martin like Hall of Famers.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
So it's not as if they haven't drafted well and
haven't done some good things there. I just look at
it and I go, if we're going to talk about
the fact that it's been thirty years since they've advanced
passed the second round of the playoffs, I mean, at
some point you got to find the constant and all that,
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and the constant is Jerry Jones. Jones, like you know,
And that's why I look at it. And I asked
the question, if the decision maker on this deal wasn't
a Jones, would they still have a job or would
there be people calling for their job? And I think
the answer is yes, because I don't know anybody that
would have done that. They would have figured out a
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way if you and I remember talking to Bucky Brooks about
this years ago and he said, man, if if you
draft really well, your next job is to keep your
own don't keep shopping around like that's the goal of
every team build through the draft. You got a guy
like he pretty good guy. He produced every year, you
got the guy. And for whatever reason. And I understand
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negotiations and all that stuff. And there was tough negotiations
with Dak Prescott too, there was tough negotiations with Ceedee Lamb.
You're able to get that deal done, that deal done.
This one you couldn't. And I just don't. It's just
a it's wild to think about it.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
It didn't even it made him the highest paid player
at that moment in time. It didn't even last long
when he went and got his deal done in Green Bay.
That's not even the largest deal for a defender. And
as much as I like the kid in Houston what's
his name, what's the andson and love his game, he's
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not Michael Parsons. He's not Michael Parsons. The only one
that I could sit there and honestly say, and he's
older than Mike. I believe. I'm pretty certain Miles Garrett
is older than but what about three years? Ah, yeah,
something like that. Yeah, Miles Garrett is the only one
that I'd sit there and say, yeah, like he's the best,
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Like he's the Miles Garrett is the best, but Michael Parsons,
you have to keep in mind, has done things that
even Miles Garrett has not done. Only the likes of
a Reggie White, only the likes of a Lawrence Taylor
have done the things that Michael Parsons has done on
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that football field. There's no way you can justify that
being the only way you speak on Michael Parsons. I
like what he stands for. Good ballplayer. Come on, man,
that's it, that's all you have. And also, by the way,
Adam Shined does a great job. The fact that that
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was even a question still at this point should it
should tell you.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That there still needs to be justify If.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You're like, hey, so, could you please explain that one
more time? Now that all the dust is settled, the
picks are in, the players have been drafted, you made
the movie, could you just explain that one?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
And it sounded just as dumb as the first time
it sounded, And it exposes to you why this team
can't win. If your arrogance level is so high that
it clouds your judgment on the type of talent that
you have or how you should be approaching the culture.
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The cultural health of your building. They gave you your answer.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
They gave you.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
All you needed to know, and that that sound bite.
And if I'm a Dallas player, maybe outside of Dak Prescott,
maybe c. D Lamb, if you could say that about
Michael Parsons, then who.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Am I look at? Ceedee Lamb like I think it
went to social media. I think it was Twitter. He
posted something while the while the back and forth the
negotiation was going on with Michael Parsons just said something
along the lines of, all right, can we.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Just stop and get this done? Like this is just
let's it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
We all know it's gonna get Let's just get the
deal done. Enough with the back and forth, and then
you know, a couple of days later he's out the building.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
If that's all, if that's all the accountability you can
have towards your players, like and that's was your that
was their best player, hands down, that's your best football player.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
On that team.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Agreed more than Dak Prescott, more than CD Lamb, more
than anybody else on that Zach Martin, he's your best
football player on that team. And that's how you treat it.
The situation again, that is what you call cultural decay.
Your ego says, quantity is more than quality, which means
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I can pick and choose the players that are going
to make this a winning team, even if they're not good.
Like it's not X's and o's, it's pros and Joe's.
If you got a pro, you got you something special.
I'll tell you what. I'll take one of them frogmen.
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I'll take one of them Special Forces men one. I'll
take one of them, all respect to the other guys
and all the men and women of service. I'll take
one of them frogmen over ten fifteen to twenty infantry.
It's just how it works. It's not personal. You know
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that one frog man right there. I want him, And
let me tell you something that's quality. That's not quantity.
Quantity matters, but quantity should never outweigh quality. Maybe they're
told on himself.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
May George Carlin fan George Carlin said back in the day,
I've never had a ten. I've never slept with a ten,
but I've had five two's.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Because he couldn't because you couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Imagine you didn't sleep with a ten because you couldn't
get a ten.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You slept with twos because that's what you could get. Yeah,
all right, I know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Before I became famous, I was no joking, but I'm
just saying just keep it in mind.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Like if you have a ten, don't mess it up
with that ten.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Don't. Hey, look I met a ten. Yeah, Like let's
get married. Yeah, Like, don't mess around with the ten. Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
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The crown is yours. So this was sort of thrown
out there, and you know, there's it. Just it seems
like every day there's some added detail because people have
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an infatuation with this and look for those that wonder, wall,
don't you guys fall in line with that? Well, no,
we're simply reporting on what the top stories of the
day are. What you know, some interesting aspects to certain
stories are. And the Mic Rabel Diana Rossini saga is
a big deal. I mean, that's a that's a big
(26:51):
deal cost a respected NFL report.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Of their job. It's a coach who was just in
a Super Bowl and the scandal to go along with it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So there's a lot of a discussion about, you know,
how this whole thing is going to play out, And
seemingly every day there's a new report. I think it's
starting to make the rounds. The Daily Mail had a
report about Diana Rossini her husband being heartbroken and whatnot,
that Diana Rossini's in a tough spot because she genuinely
(27:21):
was in love with Mike Rabel. She's dealing with all
so just like all of that is sort of the
the relationship soap opera type stuff to go along with it.
But I know Stu Gotts on our network is good
friends with Diana Rossini and has just said, listen, you know,
when she's ready to tell her story, She'll tell her story,
so on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And you know, all respect there. You know, Mike.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Florio threw this out there that you know, maybe she's
got an ace upper sleeve as she does talk. And
I kind of think what he's getting at is, what
if she just decides I'm just gonna go ahead and
let it fly here, and all of a sudden it
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implicates maybe even more. And I'm not saying more than Vrabel.
I'm just saying more details about that relationship that went
all the way back to Tennessee when a lot of
those stories and reports came out and stuff went publicly,
and then you start to wonder, well, did he violate
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any sort of policies did he violate Was there stuff
going on that now, upon further review, you look at
and go as a coach, if you go through the
details of contractual agreements, you're not allowed to do that.
We're always talking about the integrity of the game, the
integrity of the game. If you come to find out
that there was this going on and it was manipulating
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leverage in negotiations for certain players or trade acquisitions or whatever,
I just I can't help but think that there's going
to continue to be more of this trickling out, and
I know we had the bet going on of hey,
by the time, you know, week one of the NFL
season comes around, is this you know, uh, do you
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guys think this is still going to be a storyline?
And I think by week one things probably would have
quieted down. And then you see stuff like this and
you go, man, we haven't heard from her yet. And
when she does decide that she does want to talk,
whether it is with Stu Gotts or whether it is
on her own or whatnot, then what And she sort
(29:30):
of has all the cards in that where she could
decide she just wants to fire off and have a
conversation about everything on you know, fourth of July, or
she could wait till Labor Day, or she could wait
whatever she wants. And next thing, you know, blows the
lid off some stuff, and then we've got this whole
scandal back back in the headlines.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yet again.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
It's hard to get sometimes it's like what's reality, what's
what's fake, what's phony? I think we all come from
different places, We have different backgrounds, so we have different
life experiences, so we come to different conclusions. I think
that That's why I believe there's the different in opinions
(30:17):
on this topic where I come from, what I've seen,
what I've experienced, the way this unfolded scandals have been sensationalized.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Throughout the ages. I mean, we still.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Haven't gotten over Charles and Diana yet that still comes up,
still a story, still a part of the story. How
long ago was that. All I'm saying is there are
certain things that happen and it's a perfect storm of information.
(30:58):
It's a perfect storm with character. This is a storyline
that does not have any end in sight because Diana
Rassini is one of the most well respected successful insiders.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
In sports.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
In sports, Mike Vrabel is largely considered to be football royalty.
Played at at Ohio State, did well blue blood school
goes to the Steelers, blue Blood Boom like historical landmark
(31:43):
organization goes to the Patriots and is a part of
one of the starts of the greatest dynasties in all
of sports. He's such a well revered, respected, admired person.
It is perfect. It's not only like good or it
(32:04):
fits Jonas. It is the perfect storm of a scandal.
What like what other elements do you need for a
scandal to live up to the building of a scandal.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
There's also, by the way, did you see this stuff
about the accident? So you know how there was the
story that came out that she rescued a guy and
his dogs in the car, and then people started interviewing
witnesses nearby and they said, well, no, she was just standing.
There was actually her husband who reached through to help
him out. First of all, they two people were rescued,
(32:42):
and instead of that being the story, it's yeah, but
who reached through the car to pull him out?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (32:47):
All because of this story?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yes, it's crazy, well buying a blue zip up sports
flat shirt. I'm just telling you the details now matter.
It's it's a large enough scandal. And again, how do
you replace that?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Why? What?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Like in media, why would you replace if there's so
much more meat, like this is a fat hog of
a story. This is not This is not a little
piggy like fat fat hogs get slaughtered. This has so
much meat to it, just because scandals carry that type
(33:35):
of weight relevant scandals, how do you replace that? What
are you replacing the mic Rabel Diana Rassini scandal with?
What are you replacing it with what other news like, oh,
the you guys said the season schedule release and different category. Oh,
(33:56):
they're going to get that work, different category, and it's
going to be related. Anytime something is discussed about Mike,
Mike Rabel, Diana Rossini is immediately going to be brought
up some way, somehow, it's going to happen. How long
did the Shannon Sharp stuff go on for? He's not
even married, and all he was really doing was just
(34:19):
talking bad to to.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The girl, even talking bad to her.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
He was abusive verbally, but some people said she might
have liked it. Regardless, it was the perfect storm for
a scandal, and it ultimately costed.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
That man his job.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
So I just don't I don't understand in reality how
anyone could think that this story is going away, you know,
anytime soon. You know.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
The other part of this that because again and people wondering, well,
you know, what's the latest development. Well, the latest development
is you know, you got people close to her saying, listen,
she's going to talk on her timeline, which which leads
you to under Okay, when is that going to be?
And she's got a lot to say. But I also
I also look at it, and I go. The other
part of this that doesn't get talked about enough is
(35:09):
the fact that Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots,
went to the New York Post to try and get
them to not release the photos. Why, Like I understand, well,
it's your coach, and it's a bad like no, because
I think Robert Craft also.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Knows Hey Man.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Well also that.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
But if they peel back every layer to this onion,
people's eyes are really gonna water like that's and I
think that that was him trying his and he went
and really got on him to don't.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Release these photos. Don't release these photos. Don't release these photos.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I think it's because he knew, Man, there's more here.
There's a lot more here, and this could get real ugly,
real fast. So while everything is calm now and quiet
now the schedule release.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
They're gonna be the butt of the jokes.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yes, it's every everywhere you go, like any any reference comment.
I just so yeah, And I mentioned this before. I
think if I'm a betting man, everything quiets down by
week one. But I also think it would not surprise
me if this would lead to Mike Rabel saying all right,
(36:29):
I gotta I gotta fix some stuff. I can't focus
on this team right now.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
I can only imagine what Diana Rassini is going through
on a day to day basis right now. And with
that being said, she may feel like she needs to
clear some things up. She may feel like, why I'm
not the only one that's getting all down on a
Lench tour. It might not even be revenge. It might
be like exonerating or like I got I got a
(36:57):
salvage something here and you can ultimately turn that into
a a redemption store. It's just it's not over. It's
not over, and it's not over at bout long shot.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And I also think there's probably like when this happens
a lot with people, when a big scandal like this happens,
there are other people that are like, oh boy, don't
come for me. A lot of skeletons in the closet
out there for.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
But they.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
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man himself, the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports.
(39:00):
He is a Fox College football analyst and you can
get him on X at the Old p Petro's Good morning, Hello, Petros.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Morning guys. How are you hello? Hello?
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Hello? How is your sinco?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
To MYO yesterday? Right? Yes, it was pretty uneventful. Do you.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Did no celebration?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
No, you didn't grab a Modello a little delayed to
meet you a lot of Monday and have that a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Or I had a Modelo. My wife and I had
a Modelo. She bought a six pack of Modello and
we had a couple. We are sponsored by Modello, as
you know. Nice Modello meets you a lot of Monday
on the Petros and Money Show because it's a great
Mexican logger with the mark of a fighter hashtag Modelo USA.
(39:50):
Please drink responsibly. We did have a Modello, but nothing
no big, but you know, it is appropriate if you
guys are in it is actually appropriate to celebrate in
California for Cinco de Mayo. You know, a lot of
(40:11):
people say, oh, it's a bigger holiday in the United
States than it is in Mexico and this and that
it's become a commercialized kind of event in the United
States because of you know, Jose Cuerrevo or Modelo or
Corona or patron or what a Don Julio or whatever
(40:34):
brands And maybe that is true. But when the Battle
of Puebla was won by the Mexicans and it was
not against the United States or anything like that. If
the history is known by people, it's French. The Mexicans
beat the French a larger force of French soldiers, and
(40:59):
that the Battle of Puebla. That was a huge deal
all over the United States at the time because a
lot of people thought that the French at eighteen sixty
two wanted a piece of that good Southern cotton. And
that means the Civil War there was a blockade and
(41:21):
all that. So a lot of people thought that France
was going to help the South in the Civil War
to knock out the North or at least to try
to get their secession. And when France got beat in Puebla,
there was a lot of celebration, especially in California because
California was a Union state, so it is appropriate at
(41:46):
the time. And there was not a lot of celebration
in Texas because Texas was a Confederate state. So single
Demaya was very significant at the time in the newspapers
and stuff in the United States. So it's okay to
go to the Cabo Cantina and drink syrupy margarita and
(42:06):
have a chick from sales throw up all over your chest.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
You're gonna say, if you get a little Pinata key
chain as a take home from one of the Modello girls,
you know, feel good about.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Things because at the time of the Battle of Puebla,
that was a big deal here as Wellla. Now, if
people think that it was us that got beat by
the Mexicans in eighteen sixty two, they are sadly mistaken.
Speaker 4 (42:32):
Yeah, taking.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
The the United States knocked out the Mexicans in the
Mexican American War a few years before our own Civil war.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Speaking of wars, the bomb threat, evacuations, what was that
all about?
Speaker 4 (42:52):
I was I was here to get a mill and.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
There is a there's a big there's a big festival
in Redondo. Beat Bar lives and it was started by
a guy I went to high school with and so
I've been involved with it since day one. And it
is pretty you know, for a festival, it's not like
Outside Lands or Coachella or Mona rou or something like that.
(43:18):
It is a bumber shoot, you know, all of these
different festivals around the country and world. It is a
smaller festival, but it's really cool. They get good acts,
you know, Willie Nelson has played it.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
Let's say, Cheryl Crow was there this year.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Cheryl Crow. This is the second time my daughter met
Cheryl Crow. This year. Charl Rall surprised with She showed
me a pick that Cheryl Crow signed and gave her.
I was like, where the hell did you go? But yeah,
there was a swatting, a swatting event where the young
people call the swat team and send the swat team
(43:55):
and they think it's hilarious. The beach life got sho
down for a couple hours or they were delayed, and
they evacuated the Redondo Beach Pier and all of my
people that work at that event and all that were
sequestered on the third day, and who was playing the
third day James Taylor, Sweet Baby James and my Morning Jacket,
(44:19):
who I actually did show up to see. So I
went out there on Sunday despite the swatting event, and
everything ended up okay. But yeah, it was a I
got out a yoga on Sunday and I had all
these texts about a shooting or a mad active shooter
or a bomb thread or something going on on the pier,
and it was obviously very concerning, but it ended up
(44:43):
being okay, and the event went off without a hitch, really,
so that was it was good news. And I was
there in the concert for the third day and I
saw totally Benta Kine. What do you mean thanks.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
For the petrodo in my Morning Jacket fan ticket.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I mean, I'll get a ticket.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
I didn't say invite me for free again.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Well gone, I don't like I don't like doing things
by myself.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Petros she always a peach pit fan.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I thought, there's only a few things I like going
by myself, Petros, and I don't.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I don't want anybody there with me. I ran into
a tolly Banta Caine, remember him, the defensive guy from
Cal played like ten years in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, and he's got like he has. He showed me
that he's got. Like a beach football game coming up
full tackle with guests coaches Deshaun Foster and Marsha Lynch
up in Santa Cruz. There's gonna be like, you know,
like in Point Break where they got and they had
the football game on the beach and they're like, don't
(45:52):
you know that's Johnny Utah beat USC when he played
for Ohio State the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, the wrong way, the wrong way, Jonas Jonas.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
But uh, speaking to the microphone, squid brain, I know.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
The writer really Yeah, I know the guy that wrote
Point Break, Peter Elef it's his name. Is his name?
Really cool guy?
Speaker 1 (46:22):
Uh speaking lax war child seriously of movies and and
scripts and and different.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
Things like that. Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
The Lakers, Okay, I mean this, this this season has
the potential.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
To be movie worthy. Now I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Yeah, all right, so I'm asked you did making it
past Houston because nobody had them. Nobody gave him a
chance to survive against Houston. Making it to this this round.
Is it enough to have made it to this round
and get slaughter or do they have to be competitive
either way? I mean a massacre can end up being
(47:06):
a movie too, But yeah, what type of movie is this?
Is this a horror flick?
Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's really enough, right, It's never enough? No, not for
the Lakers. I mean, when did you move to la.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I mean it's eleven year, it's been eleven years and
now okay, so.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Twelve twelve years. Twelve years.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
So even when Kobe and uh pow Gasol and all
that everything going on back in the day, everybody in town.
Can you remember Jonas had like Laker flags flapping off?
Remember that? Yeah, everywhere and all that, and it's just
(47:46):
not that's not the case anymore.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I worked at a TGI Fridays that was the Laker bar?
Was that the one there?
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (47:54):
The one near the airport.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I used to go to the Magic Johnson one. When
I came out literally was it was like a nightclub,
Magic Johnson's TGI Fridays.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
And like, yeah, I did, You're right it popped off.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
Oh man, Yeah, that was like the place to go.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, you could get like a young core cocktail like
a Lonzo ball. Brandon Jennings.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
No, No, this is back when I was playing like
it was the Magic Johnson Dip. Back when I was
I mean, it was a who's who are people up?
And it was like right down the street from the airport.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I'm saying even when you arrived at La as A
as a resident.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
I didn't do anything. I didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Well, I'm just saying it was the Lakers were a
bigger deal. Yeah, Like I mean, I was out and
about on the weekend, like you said, at Beach Life,
and I go around and I don't see you know,
I just don't see it. I see a Laker hat
every once in a while. It's just not like it
was as far as the excitement goes. Now, they have
(49:00):
a new ownership group, and I believe I watched the
new ownership group many years ago up close, working with
the Dodgers, take over the Dodgers and slowly make all
the changes that they wanted to. Ned Coletti became Andrew Friedman,
who has turned the Dodgers into what they are today,
(49:21):
and so on and so forth. They remember, they didn't
fire Don Mattingly, but they parted ways with him mutually,
which is so weird. I mean, that could even happen
to JJ Reddick, as positive as the coverage has been
of him. So what I think is that there's going
to be major changes. I don't know what exactly that means.
(49:43):
You already see it within the front office. Lon Rosen
has gone there and taken over. He was with the
Dodgers forever, so under this ownership group, so I do
think there'll be a lot of changes for the Lakers.
I don't think be eating the Houston Rockets without Kevin
Durant is really that big of a deal, despite what
(50:05):
the news people or the proxies for Lebron or whoever
else is talking. I mean, that's they make you feel
like the Lakers season is cinematic because no one ever
shuts up about it, whether it's mediocre or halfway there
or I mean, they have to be good enough to
win a championship because they're the Lakers, and just like
(50:28):
the Celtics, right it's supposed to be that way, and
right now it's not. And that's okay, I mean, but
it's been that way for quite some time. Lebron hasn't
really had that much success in the playoffs ever since
he arrived here. Now, that could be for a myriad
of reasons. You don't have to point your finger at
Lebron if you don't want to. But that's just the case.
(50:49):
And it's funny because a lot of people like you said,
Levarn they didn't have I think it was more likely
for the Lakers to get swept, if for Vegas odds,
than it was for them to win this series as
far as Vegas was concerned. And that's not what happened.
They went and beat Houston, but we put like a
Houston ryder on before the series started, like a month ago,
(51:14):
and he said something to the effect of, I don't
know what everybody's thinking. JJ Reddick is going to coach
circles around Udoka and ended up I mean, that's I mean.
And that was a month before and before any of
the games started, and that is actually what ended up happening.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
So other priorities. You know, he's got a.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Look one time the guy slips and falls into a
hot white chick who happened to be somebody's wife. You know,
bad situation.
Speaker 4 (51:44):
Go figure, But what happened.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
They won a couple of game I guess I spoke,
I asked if the white people if they win a
couple of games against okc LeVar, I think you'll get
some heat in town because and everywhere, because obviously it's
a big story. But I mean, I don't think okay
See played particularly well as No.
Speaker 4 (52:07):
It was the first time SG hadn't scored twenty points
all year.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
In the game, he didn't have to, and.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
They looked pretty comfortable. Yeah, and that's what it was.
They were comfortable letting Check get involved. He got developed early.
They didn't adjust to it like you got to adjust
to it.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
They used to work for the Lakers, uh, you know,
and that like he was there with him when Kobe
won the championship and Orlando, and I was actually there
when they with him when they lost to the Celtics
and Paul Pierce got we wheelchaired away and all that
and he pooped himself and I was there that night
(52:43):
and all that. Uh so, Uh, my radio partner, who
likes to break down these things, you know, this time
of year and stuff, his expert analysis was, hey, chet
Holgrin's pretty skinny. Maybe he'll get hurt. Yes, it's I
think it's a tall order for the Lakers to beat
the Thunder. I mean, obviously during the regular season, I
(53:05):
don't think they got within twenty in any of their games.
Maybe one, but it's it's going to be over soon,
and then Lebron will do different things to call attention
to him while the conference finals in the NBA Finals
are going on.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
You know what I think it is that by the way,
Petros Papadek is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
You know what I think it is about the Lakers nowadays,
there's no real connection to the fan base or because
everything feels so you basically just handed the keys over
to Lebron and said, all right, you can take it
up for a yeah, and you.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Know that's a little bit. I mean I could say
that about the Clippers too in town, not that anybody
really care.
Speaker 4 (53:45):
But the Dodgers are a different story.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, Well, we have relationships with the players, right, It's
not like we don't talk to Otani, but Fasse does
and different other people do. And back when when the
Lakers were on our station, and even if they weren't,
like we talked to Kobe, you would come on, we
would talk to pownas all, not every month or every week,
(54:08):
but they would come on a couple times a year.
We would have relationships with different players, and they were
more accessible. And I don't know if it has something
to do with Lebron or the modern NBA, but these
these teams don't even make these players available for their
television stations anymore other than the standard you know, post
(54:29):
game stuff that they have to do or what they're
required to do by the media. The players have become
totally insulated from the fan base and it's more about
a tunnel walk And I mean, they just don't really
feel like they're regular people anymore, not that they ever
really did. I mean, the NBA, there's always been a
separation between the players and the fans because the players
(54:53):
are so weird looking, right, like, they only look normal
to one another on a basketball next to each other,
exactly right, you know, and when they're not, you're like, wow,
Derek Fisher is pretty a lot taller than I.
Speaker 3 (55:05):
Thought, which is crazy, Like, little dude, did you mean
you're like whoa hold on, wait, wait a minute, I
was talking bad about you and you had those two
win puppets, Wemby and Cheded Holmgren.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah, it's the last time they saw each other's outside
of car dealers.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Let's sell some Hyundais avatars. So so I think that
there's an element of that, But you are right, like
there is no like we don't have the same connection.
I mean, there were Asian dudes in this town and
Mexican dudes in this town that would throw themselves on
a funeral pire for Kobe. I mean, I mean they
(55:45):
felt like they knew him. You know, people would run
up on Kobe in a parking lot and talk to him.
I mean, I remember these things from my radio career,
and yeah, I was critical of Kobe. Kobe was a
confounding guy to cover. You know, we've forgotten a lot
of that because of the way he died, and that's
probably fair. But at the same time, it was a
(56:05):
lot different. I think it's a really good question because
it was a lot different. I do think the NBA,
at least in this town. I can't speak for Philadelphia
or Chicago or whatever, but at least in this town
Los Angeles, we've lost our connection with the teams that
we used to that we used to have just doing sports.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That just a symptom, like you said, is that just
a symptom of where we are as a society, because
I've heard that about other fan bases too.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah. Well, but to me, it's like doing sports talk
radio locally, you know, like you really have your fingers
and feet in the ground, like in the dirt we talked.
We have access to everybody, football players, everybody baseball. You know, nobody,
nobody is above coming on the show, whether we have
(56:53):
a sponsored element to it, or they'll come and talk
to us for an hour. You know, they are acceptable
to the fans in that way. The Dodgers do tons
of events. I mean they have an event in a
Hundai in down dealership in Downey tomorrow with David Vasse
and Alex Vesia. He's the Dodgers best reliever. It's his
(57:15):
day off. He's going to a car dealership to do
an interview for an hour with a with a reporter.
That's a connection with the with the with the area
Downey is known as Mexican Beverly Hills. Huh. So that's
you know that that's not even gonna happen with Luke Canard,
you know what I mean, They're not even gonna, said
(57:37):
Dalton connect to do that. So so yeah, I do
think it's It's a problem with the modern NBA that
they've lost a lot of their connection with the fan base,
and the players act like entitled TikTok rappers a little
bit more than they act like basketball players.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
I mean, that's fair. All that makes sense. By the way,
are you anything coming up on the show?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
You got?
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Has got anything to morown? Any special guests, events, any remotes?
Speaker 4 (58:04):
What's going on on Friday?
Speaker 2 (58:06):
A week from Friday? Will be in Downdy at the BJS,
all right for the Dodgers. Before the Dodgers, Angels gave
an Anaheim, so we'll get Mexican Beverly Hills going for me.
Speaker 1 (58:15):
Now, what is your what's your go to? What are
you taking home to the fam when you leave BJS?
Speaker 2 (58:20):
You hopefully just myself?
Speaker 4 (58:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
My days of getting like six meals for everybody and
walk down too bad? Those days are over.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Oldest trick in the book.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Yeah, if you work, if you're doing a remote, you
eat there and then take stuff to go as well too,
so you can get two meals out of the whole deal.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
What do I have lined up for today? I mean
tomorrow later today, gosh, I wrote a whole bunch of
stuff and now I don't even remember. Well, you know
you got the uh oh you can get a Disneyland
license plate now in California all for like one hundred
and thirty bucks.
Speaker 4 (58:59):
Oh it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Eighty bucks a year. You can get a special Disneyland
license plate for all the weird disney head people. You know.
Oh it's great, but show up at the park and
they're in like a different Disney gang, like Geppetto's toy
makers or or some weird people. Man. Yeah, the Disney
types are really weird. Yeah wow, And you know, I'm
(59:22):
very reluctant to talk to You know, we all have
that sixth grader in us that we'll talk for hours
with our friends about an amusement park. You know, we
still have that, even though you get older, you still
do that talk about amusement parks and the rides and
all the different stuff. And whenever we talk about Disneyland,
it's always like some disney head always in You're wrong,
(59:44):
you know, you always get corrected. That's not whats toy
makers do, you know, like they Disney.
Speaker 4 (59:51):
Dorks, Like I know somebody like that.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, I kind I remember I took we took my son.
I think it was two at the time. My wife
and and we're just miserable. I can't stand the place.
And I'm looking around going there are adults walking around
with Chewbacca backpacks on. We got to get out of here, like,
can we get we got it? We gotta leave asav Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
The people that roll there, and they're like, you know,
I'm friends with the guy that operates the train on
Main Street. You know. It's the people, you know. I mean,
it's a place, it's a safe place for for some
very sad people. I'm a very sad guy, like you know,
but Disneyland doesn't do it for me, although I I
do have to admit I took my kids a while
(01:00:36):
back to the Star Wars Land or whatever that you
know that they built there. Yeah, that's you know, well,
just a great attention to detail. Okay, I appreciate that
kind of thing in a run drill and in the
Star Wars Land. Nice. Yeah, And you know, I want
I want attention to detail. You know, hey, why are
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