The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas, Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington go over the recent report that Diana Russini & Mike Vrabel rented a private boat in 2021 to add more to the story. Plus, the guys discuss Travis Hunter's plan for this year, chat with Albert Breer, and much more!!

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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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up with our guy Albert Breer coming up here and
just a couple of moments from now, ab uh getting
them all set up lined up, you know, we don't
want to take any chances on this show he is,
you know, for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
By the way, the record, we talked about his appearances
on the show. We did talk about the lack of
cell phone connection, which he was deeming that it's been
much improved, and I said, I don't know that that's
the case. I feel like we still get every single
call a drop at some point where he cuts out
a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
I do think my favorite moment with him though, was Yeah,
that was that was impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Okay, we still have that drop.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
That was amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:42):
He was ready.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
He was ready for that hockey tournament, and so was mom.
See people don't really be realizing how ready moms be
for tournament day, competition day with their kids. Man, and
we got an inside look of it in real time.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, the league playoffs start tonight.

Speaker 6 (02:00):
She came back in that car ready to go. You
know where to you know where the World Series for
the Little League is right, you know where it is, right?

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Do that same thing for five year olds or I
think they're a little older at that point. I mean, listen,
Chinese type. I had a thirty eight year old playing
one year, so may be having ringers man. Yeah, Ringers
is a real thing, all right.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well, here he is.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, come on, break out the leather pants,
all right, cut off the sleeves of your T shirt,
let your hair go, yeah, and let them rip for
the great. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist

(02:48):
at the MMQB. You can get him on x at
Albert Breer AB.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Good morning, Good morning, guys, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
There he is.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
So, I mean, LaVar, was you know, making mention of
this earlier, but you know, you and Brady take a
boat out for two three hours.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
There we go and we're there. You want to throw
Var in there. That's ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Cute group thing, LeVar.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
We can have you him when his linebacker.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
Day much right? Yeah, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, they're all being jealous, Albert because you happen to
ask me to come on the podcast and and I'll
be I don't know if you want to let them
know this, but I feel like you're in a bit
of a pinch based on the timing of fun.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
We did it when you asked, so I was working.
I felt like I was trying to help you out with.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
It, and you did, and I really appreciate Brady and
me and Jonas. Jonas, you want to do a media podcast,
I'd love to. Yeah, let's let's we'd have all the
answers then, right, we'll rank the top ten douchebags that
play nice guys on the air.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
We'll do that and.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
Like that that list to ten.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Right, it's true. Yeah, that is a that's fair. That's
a fair point.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
I feel like cutting from the that'd be like trying
to make cuts in the USA National basketball right, you.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Know, because yeah, there's a lot of talent that will
be left off the roster.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I do want to just ask you this, Has.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
There been any change in the public perception locally there
of this vrable situation there in in and around New England.
I know nationally it's a it's a different view. But
any change is the story develops on whether or not
he's going to be the coach there week one.

Speaker 7 (04:36):
I mean, I don't really think so. I think it's
I think there's an acceptance that like it's going to
follow them around for a while, and obviously it's still
has it still is with the developments that seemed to
come out every four or five days, you know, and
then you're going to have the schedule release, and then

(04:56):
you're going to have when the team goes on the road,
and so you know, I think until the games start,
this is going to follow them around. When the game starts,
this will probably follow them around. I'd be I'd still
be stunned if Mike Brable isn't the coach of the
Patriots in twenty twenty six. You know, I do think

(05:17):
it's one of those things though, where you know, it
can create a situation where a year or two for now,
maybe ownership has a little less patience with you because
of because of what you took the organization through. So
you know, look like there's a twenty five year relationship
there between the Crafts and Mike Brable. You know, I

(05:39):
think there's a belief in who he is as a
person despite everything that's happened, and I still think, you know,
like there's a good person in there, like despite all this,
And you know, I think for there's also like the
sugar high that they got off of last year's success,
you know, which after they had like had to go

(06:01):
through everything at the end that they went to a
Bill Belichick and the one year at your odd Mayo
being right back on the mountaintop. You know, I'm sure
it was intoxicating for the craft. So you know, I
don't doubt that every intention that they have is to
go forward with him as their head coach. And if
you look at their actions, I think all of their
actions have been sort of centered on protecting his employment.

(06:22):
Now you know, I does does does that last forever? No,
it doesn't last forever, you know, and it might they
have a little less patience with them a year or
two from now as a result of all of this.
I mean, that's that's something I could see.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I mean, I'm just trying to figure out how they
have time to do all what they were doing. I mean,
you're they're renting boats together, they're going to Sedna on
this these getaway trips, and you see them. It just
it feels like, to Jonas's point what you kind of
touched on that, you know, obviously, if he wasn't forthcoming
about all of this, that could impact the trust and

(06:58):
credibility he has with the team. But also so you know,
with what he says he's actually doing when he's doing
his job as a head coach, Like, doesn't that come
into question at some point.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah, And I think that that's the thing Brady is like,
I mean, look like here's where it is locally, right,
And I think this is the best way to describe,
like the way that the general public is looking at this,
it's like everything's great now, right They went fourteen and three,
But I mean you don't think that, like if they
start one and four, there are going to be questions

(07:29):
about you know, his focus to coach. Of course there is,
you know, that's the way these things work, and that's
the sort of the bet they've made for themselves, you know. Like,
so I just I think you're right, like that piece
of it does certainly come into play. What protects him
right now is the success that they had and a
track record that he asked from Tennessee. He's obviously a

(07:51):
fantastic head coach and it has done a good job
now in two different places. But you know, if not
for that success, there would be a problem right now.
You know, it would be a bigger problem I think
than it is right now. If if the success doesn't
continue the way we saw in year one, some of
those questions certainly come up.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Abe. I would love to continue the line of questioning
on Mike Varibel and the Rassini situation. But due to
the fact that you know what, it's going to continue
on for for a while, I'm going to switch topics
and I'm going to go to a different, a different place,
a different a different space, and I'm going to ask
you about the Aaron Rodgers situation. It seems as though,

(08:36):
hearing what ownership had to say about the situation, patients
are running thin. And we had the question before, I
think we asked you this every week, does he sign that,
does he report in uh for for the mini camps?
Does he come back for the mandatory mini camp that

(09:00):
are coming up pretty quickly here?

Speaker 7 (09:03):
It seems like that is like the next soft deadline.
Now OTAs do begin before that, and as you guys know,
that's really the start of like foot what you consider
football practice, right, But like last year, I mean, Mike
Tomlin didn't say it ahead of time, but he didn't
concede it afterwards that this was sort of a deadline

(09:25):
for him. He did want to have, you know, Aaron
Rodgers in place for the mini camp, of the veteran
mandatory mini camp. If Rogers was going to play in
twenty twenty five, and so using that as sort of
like a guy I would say, you know, like that
was a coach who had been in place for I mean,
he was going into his nineteenth season. You know this

(09:47):
this year, they've got a coach is going into his
first year there. So at least on paper, be even
more important for Mike McCarthy to have Aaron Rodgers in
for that mini camp than it was for Mike Tomlin
last year. So you know, yeah, I think you're right
to point at those dates. Those were the dates last
year for him, and I would I still think that

(10:09):
he's going to play in twenty twenty six, but I'm
not sure that anyone knows one way or the other
for sure, other than maybe Aaron Rodgers himself. So we're
sort of right back where we were were a year ago,
you know, which I don't think anybody should.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Be blown away by Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead
Content Strategies at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox
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Speaker 2 (10:32):
You can get him on X at Albert Breer.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
So you did a deep dive on the process the
Raiders went through in selecting Fernanda Mendoza as their quarterback.
What stood out to you what was unique about their
process as opposed to maybe others who have had the
same decision to make at the top of the draft recently.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
I mean, I think it was like one thing, it
was sort of interesting with the hard pivot, right like
where like they had known, I mean, obviously the quarterback
was going to be a need for them, and you know,
like that there could be the opportunity in the twenty
sixth track to get one all the way back in September,
and it was just interesting to look at like the
different guys that they went out and saw. The first

(11:15):
quarterback that they went out and took a hard look
at was John Mattier, who got off to a nice
started Oklahoma and so the GM his first you know,
live exposure to one of the quarterbacks was Jeometier playing
against Auburn in September as they were on their way
to play Washington, the Raiders were and so like they

(11:37):
they spent a lot of the fall, you know, exhausting
resources to try and get eyes on as many guys
as they could, and then you know, I think, you know,
they got to the middle of November and Okay, it's
pretty clear, like Fernando is going to be one of
the guys we're going to be looking at, and Dante
Moore is going to be one of the guys we're
looking at, and so you know, they sort of focused

(11:59):
on those two guys at the very end. Interestingly enough,
like that that Thanksgiving weekend, Jonas, they did go see
Fernando Mendoza play at Purdue. They also went and subbigned
and sowersby that weekend he was one of the guys
in their list and going and playing, you know, for
Cincinnati against TCU UH and then after that they got

(12:22):
another exposure to Mendoza in the semi final against Oregon
and then of course in the championship game against So
I think it was sort of an interesting process in
that they cast a pretty wide net at the beginning
and then by the end, you know, the general manager
got to see Mendoza live three times the span of

(12:44):
amount month and a half, which is a lot for
a general manager. You know, there's so many other things
that fall into the general manager's purview. You know, over
the course of the season, that he's going out and
seeing one college player three times, it's a pretty pretty
healthy investment. And make sure you're getting the right guy.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Albert, I want to switch gears and talk about the
NFL officials. It sounds like they're about ready to agree
to something or at least vote on the current agreement
the NFL has provided them for their CBA. Do you
get a sense that this is going to go through.
We're not gonna have to worry about this as a
distraction this season.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah, it feels like it. I mean, just to update
people who aren't maybe following this is closely, Brady, I
know you've probably read up on it, but like they
had so like an email went out to the officials
earlier this week and it kind of took them through
the key points of what is maybe not quite an agreement,

(13:39):
but getting close to it and have a RADI vacation vote,
And I would think they're going to vote it through now,
you know, I remember about the officials. It's a little
different than the players, right, like just in that they
they are they don't need need the money the same

(14:02):
way the players do. In that like, this isn't from
a lot of those guys, This isn't their livelihoods. You know,
a lot of the guys are successful doctors, or lawyers
or like, this is not their primary source of income,
you know, so like it's not nothing the money they're making,
but they're also okay if they're not totally satisfyed with

(14:24):
the conditions of a deal to fit out and wait
for more, you know, which is how the lockout happened,
and how the lockout carried into the season back in
twenty twelve. Whereas like for the players, that is their livelihood,
that is their primary source of income, so you take
it away, it hits them a little bit harder. So
I would expect like there to be you know, I think,

(14:45):
like some healthy discussion about this and everything else amongst
the officials. But the fact we've been pushing it to
a ratification vote, the fact that the barging committee has
something to put in front of of the officials themselves,
it tells you that they are closing in on a deal.
And that's good for everybody.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
I don't think anybody wants to go through what we
went through in twenty twelve.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
Again, speaking on deals, CBA is coming up, eighteen games
is being discussed. I think there was a statement from
you that you basically said that Craft's arguments for the
eighteen game season come across as disingenuous? Can you? Can
you expand on that?

Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yeah, So, like what I was saying, and I've heard
a lot of owners use this line, and I think
it's kind of garbage. So like, you know, they will
treat it like it's like a twenty game aggregate, right,
and so well, it's no big deal if we go
from sixteen and four to seventeen and three or seventeen
and three eighteen and two. I just hate that line

(15:50):
of logic because it's just, I mean, it's it's sort
of insulting to everybody involved, you know, because like look
like if you're a veteran player who's going to be
playing whatever it is, sixty snaps a game in the
regular season, those preseason games are not the same as

(16:12):
regular season games, you know, Like and it's it's it's
just sort of like I think it's sort of insulting
everybody's intelligence for them to say, oh, well, we're just
changing it so like one preseason games becomes a regular
season game. I mean, it's just it's not a real
way of looking at it. So like let's just call
it what it is, which is it's more damage on guys' bodies.

(16:36):
It could shorten guy's careers. It makes it harder for
guys to make it the free agency healthy, right, Like,
so now instead of having to make it through seventeen
game seasons, you got to make it through eighteen game seasons. Now,
instead of it being sixty eight games that you got
to make it through to get it to be eligible
to become an unrestricted free agent, it's seventy two games.

Speaker 8 (16:58):
You know.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
There are all those things that sort of a I
think there are all those things that are factors, you know,
And like referring to this as just moving one preseason
game and turning it into a regular it's just for me,
it's insulting to the public to present it that way.
But this has been some more of their talking points.

(17:19):
And I'm not singling out Robert Kraft here, like he's
used that line. Jerry Jones and all of them have
used that line. The commissioners use that line. I just
think it's consultant to the public. So if we're gonna
have a real discussion about this, let's call it what
it is and acknowledge that there's gonna be a little
more of the players are gonna have to take on
here and that there needs to be a giveback for

(17:43):
what the players are going to be going through to
make this happen.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Can you one of the things Albert were joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio that Craft points out as
the international aspect. You know, each team will get to
an opportunity to play an international game. So let me
ask you how realistic is the possibility because I've heard
this thrown around two maybe Roger Goodell's the one who
talked about it, But how realistic is the possibility that

(18:07):
not only are we going to get a permanent team
in another country, but we're going to get an entire division.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Over in Europe at some point? Is that? Is that
a realistic possibility at this point?

Speaker 7 (18:23):
I mean just to tell you, just to give you
the history here. So back in two thousand and seven,
they launched the International Series and so that was the
first regular season game in London, and they did the
time with the goal of having a team full time
in London within fifteen years, so that would have been
twenty twenty two. So they didn't hit that goal. And

(18:46):
one of the main reasons why it's actually really interesting
is they figured there would be over that period of
time advances in air travel that would cut through some
of the logistical problems that you have in trying to
put it team over there. And you know, I think
you can, you can game it up to a certain degree,
but it becomes a lot harder when you're talking about Okay,

(19:10):
like now we're talking teams have to play midweek games. Now,
all right, what happens if Seattle draws London in the
first round of the playoffs and you're talking about like
the Seahawks having to go play in London in a
one off situation that there's no planning for, no planning around, Like,
that's hard, you know. So those logistical hurdles have been

(19:33):
I think too difficult to overcome again because some of
the advances and travel but maybe they expected the time
haven't happened. So what they're doing instead is like putting
more games in London and putting more games in other
cities and trying to grow it that way. I just
I don't know what the answer is Jonas to to

(19:56):
to to a logistical issue. I mean, at one point,
believe it or not, they had actually thought about like
having a UK team with having having like the Atlanta,
the the the US base because you can because that's
such a travel hub. Right when you're doing like Tuesday workouts,
you could fly guys in to Atlanta and work them

(20:18):
out and then fly them over to London if they're
signing with the team. There are so many, so many
of those little logistical things that you have to overcome
that I think at this point is just more like,
how can we grow it in different ways other than
putting a team there until those logistical issues are solved.
And maybe one of them is putting a whole division

(20:38):
over there, But I don't know. I don't know that
they feel like putting a whole division over that. That
wouldn't know, that wouldn't like that wouldn't solve everything. And like,
you know, to support a whole division over there is
different than supporting one team, you know. So I don't
know if they're there from a popularity standpoint in that
part of the world either.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yet what's interesting about that, Albert is when we went
in twenty ten, when I was a part of the
Denver Broncos and we went to play the San Francisco
forty nine ers, that was what someone told me the
vision was, and that was kind of the only logistical
way to make it work because obviously you've got your
six divisional games that you would be able to play
without really impacting the players, coaching staffs, etc. Too much

(21:22):
with the travel. But then it would be traveling to
the Eastern seaboard. That wouldn't be that different from for example,
the Seattle Seahawks and when you look at their travel
or the Los Angeles Rams going from the West coast.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
To the East coast.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
So that was the idea that was again told to
me way back when, sixteen years ago. But it is
interesting to think that with this push towards these international games,
there does seem to be a desire or at least
a bit more fandom from really a lot of the
grassroots I think were laid by NFL Europe. So I

(21:55):
think it'd be cool personally, Like I remember talking to
someone about this and I was like, I would I
loved to have been one of the first players to
go over there.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
And be a part of a team over there.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
I just think it'd be really neat to, you know,
see how that country accepts the sport or adopts it.
And I remember even just going for that game like
a lot of the German fans came. They loved American football,
like they thought it was the coolest thing in the world.
In the scheme and the tactics to it. They were
huge fans. So I look, again, it's a pipe dream.

(22:24):
I don't know if it happens anytime soon, but it'd
be really cool to see an entire division in my.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Opinion, Yeah, I would love it, like and I think,
you know again, like I think the logistical issue is
like if they could overcome that, I think they would
love to do it, like a lot of these I mean,
and it's part of it, like you just have to.
I mean, the NFL fifteen twenty years ago came to
the point where they the the owners felt like, it's

(22:50):
hard for us to grow much more domestically than we
already have. So how do we grow out? And the
way you grow out is by adding inventory? Right, So
that's adding a seventeenth game, adding an eight teams game,
that's expanded playoffs, and that that's going back to LA
with not one but two teams, and that's going international,
you know what I mean. And that's where the real
growth is for them. And you know, I think it's

(23:13):
if you've ever been to one of the games over there,
and and Brady, you know, like you said, you experienced it.
It's a totally different atmosphere. It's a it's a cool thing.
And like I I I love the idea of it.
I just I'm just not sure how they would make
it work logistically. But you know, like again, like it is,

(23:34):
it's you know, you see it in Germany. I mean
there's great history there too. I mean, Michael Strahan was
born in Germany, and like his story is kind of
the one of how football got popular in Germany in
the first place. Is that post World War Two you
had all of these you know, US military bases in Germany,
and so like it became there there. There became like

(23:55):
a grassroots popularity there that carried over into NFL Europe.
So you know, I could pick by going over there
and making every team have one international game of year,
which is what they would go to if they had
eighteen games right where you'd have a full you have
a sixteen game, you know, play a sixteen games over
there every year. You'd continue to grow it, you know,

(24:18):
and you continue to try to build the popularity to
the game, to a point where maybe someday you could
have teams over there.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Abe, always appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB. Get him on x at Albert Breer
and a Thursday tradition here on the show.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 4 (26:47):
LeVar, do you like how that's the like that's the
stereotypical intro And.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Yeah, but he ain't.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
But but do you feel like every R and B
station radio host like doesn't know how to actually start
the segments that they just only.

Speaker 6 (27:05):
A certain demographic of him. How you know, maybe may
approach it that way like big Boy, you know who
he's part of our family, you know, he he definitely
comes in pretty cool, like he knows how to get
a cracking you know, crack a lacking. But yeah, I
mean like Jonas is intro. But they are dope, but.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
They are If you worked when you were in d C,
did you get was it a cluster where there was
a bunch of other stations as part of it?

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, so I was.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
We were in there with all of.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Them, like they are smooth man like it is.

Speaker 6 (27:35):
We had Flex Flex was was our guy, main guy
in DC SO and not funk Master Flex like Flex
DC flex so shouts out to my boy Flex. And
they had l Soul too. Jonas. Every once in a
while you go stroll the hallways, you know, say hello
to everyone, make sure everybody was good and all that stuff,

(27:57):
and you roll past l zoul. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
When I was filling in last time with Petros on
the blowtorch A M five seventy l a sports, Uh,
Spencer Pratt was walking around the hallways, he was doing interviews.
Just started the LA mayoral debate last night, and uh,
you see all sorts of people just kind of roaming
the halls there. You know, a little cluster here at

(28:24):
this time of the morning. We don't get anybody other
than cockroaches.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
When when do you guys vote that?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
By the way, next month, I think it is early June.
I think, yeah, I gonna check.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
But you know, hey, a lot of interesting points were
made during that during that debate there.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Well that stuff went viral.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Yeah, I mean I got I got no dog in
the fight. But just watching I was like, oh, dang,
these get spicy over there.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It did make me want under With three candidates up there,
it was very clear that one of them probably shouldn't
have been there.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Just felt like.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
They were not performing up to the level of the
other two. So hey, have fun with that. Everybody and
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Speaker 2 (29:29):
All right, so this will.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Mark, I believe the third time we've heard what the
plan is for Travis Hunter coming off the injury and
his rookie season that was cut short last year.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
In Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Here was the Jags GM James Gladstone, who was on
with rich Eyes and explaining what they plan on doing
with Travis Hunter going into next season.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Are we done with the two way with him or not?
Absolutely not, No, he is. He is set to play
both sides of the ball.

Speaker 10 (30:02):
That the piece that I think we can expect to
see is actually an uptick in in corner usage. Right
last year it was a higher volume, higher percentage of
wide receiver usage than it was corner I think we
can expect to see that corner percentile and count.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Go up as we move forward.

Speaker 10 (30:20):
That's not to say anything impacts his availability and usage
on offense. It just means that that cornerback usage will increase.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
All right, three hundred and twenty four offensive snaps to
one hundred and sixty two defensive snaps.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
Yeah, it's gonna flip.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
It's gonna flip. And not only is it going to
flip that one hundred and sixty two is going to
be like sixty. It's not going No, let's.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Think about that.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Like you're playing seventeen games, You're talking about one hundred
and sixty snaps.

Speaker 6 (30:52):
You think it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
It's only ten snaps a game on offense.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Think it's going to go to sixty. I think they'll flip.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
I think you could see him in there for ten
twelve snaps on offense and but let him become a
Hall of Fame cornerback.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
I don't really understand. I mean I understand.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I know they gave up a lot to get them,
but let him play the position. In my opinion, he
most naturally was segued into the NFL at and then
let him develop the other skills along the way. But like,
I don't know why they feel like they need to
keep justifying or forcing the two way spot, like go
be great at.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
One and then you can start working on the other.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
And I've always felt like the cornerback position was the
more natural spot for him. Just watching his college tape,
you know, he had all these natural instincts and the
ability to kind of read past concepts and quarterbacks and
whether it was man or zone. It just he's to
me that that was where his highest end is at.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
And I think we'd all agree.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
If he ends up putting on a gold jacket at
the end of his career as a cornerback, no one's
gonna care what they gave up for him. And honestly,
no one's gonna care much how much he even played offense.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
It feels like if he doesn't, if he doesn't put
on a gold jacket, we're gonna sit there and be like,
it's because they tried to force him. Two ways they
tried to force it.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It feels like they're justifying what they gave up for him.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
They have to, and it's the right move back glass though,
but they have to because that's what they sold the
trade on. That's what they sold the pick on.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But a great player at one position should be good enough.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
To justify the pick. I think you're right. I think
that's the best concept to go with. But you're selling
hope this is the time for selling hope. If you're
on a Rich Eisens show, you know that's going to
be a show that that gets picked up. They're gonna
pick it up. They're gonna pick that sound bite up.
People like us are going to talk about it. They're

(32:48):
going to discuss it. This kid was Travis Hunter, was
sold in college as that type of player. It worked out.
They want to they won, He won the Heisman. He's
one of all time greats, maybe one of the most
polarizing Heisman Trophy winners in the history of the the
You know, can I have.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
To pause there and ask you this because part of
the reason why you won the Heisman it's because he
went the snapcounts, he went both ways.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, do you do.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
You feel like like they feel like they're defending it
because that's how I won the Heisman.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
That was the hype, that was the cell.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
And why would you not continue to make that the
hype and make that the sale even if you have
no intentions of doing it. I'm not saying that that's
what they're going that that would be what they're going
to do, but why like, why put that to bid?
Why put that discussion to bid? If I'm the Jacksonville Jaguars.
I'm leaning into it. We're small market team. I'm going

(33:49):
to take the value of what we traded away with
getting him, and I'm going to continue to build on
the hype train that was surrounding him. I mean it,
they're the possibilities were endless until the injury took place.
If there's any trepidation about playing him both ways, it's
what came to fruition last year. Outside of that, what

(34:11):
else is there? You know he can be effective on
both sides of the ball. You know he can be
a star Wars and a face of the league if
it pans out the way that it's supposed to. Names
like Deon Sanders, his former coach, Champ Bailey, my former teammate,
Charles Woodson, these are the guys that you saw able
to do it both ways at Reed did punt returns

(34:34):
and stuff like that. You see special guys do special things,
And I think that there's an intriguing factor, more of
an intriguing factor of being able to market and sell
what you're marketing and sell when you have a player
like that on your team. So I don't have a
problem with them doing it, but I just don't believe
that they're going to risk I don't believe they're going

(34:57):
to risk him by playing him that much on one
side or the other of the ball for the sake
of what to be able to prove that the pick
was the right pick, the compensation that y'all gave up
to get that pick was the right compensation. I feel
like they're trying to justify it. But at the same time,

(35:18):
you know, I think that it's not the wrong way
to approach it. It's not the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I just I don't understand why they can't just be
good with him being a great defensive back and then hey,
maybe when we get that figured out, he needs solidified himself,
then you throw him over at wide receiver. Deon Sanders
I think had sixty catches in his career. It's not
like he was this two way player every time, and
it wasn't until later.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
On his career.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
By the way, none of them work.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
But so then why are they trying to force this
and say, no, no, he's going to be a two
way player.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
He's absolutely going to be a two way player.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
How about you just, hey, he's great on one side
of the ball, and you know, what if we want
to throw in a special package for him here, or
maybe have him return a kick or what that I
could understand. It just feels like they're trying to get
all of it in one right from the jump, and
the guy's already been injured.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
That I don't. I don't.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
It's it's an odd thing to me, But it does
feel like this all goes back to we give up
a certain amount form to do two things. He's going
to do two things, so we can get the return
on our investment based on what we gave up for
him in the draft.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Like I said, man, if they win a Super Bowl,
if they know he's just playing one way, I don't
think people are gonna be going back on Wait a second, he.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Didn't play enough on offense this year. You know. It's
like I just.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
I don't know the transition to the NFL. And by
the way, I'm not saying Travis Hunter isn't capable. He's
obviously capable. But the problem is is there is a transition,
there's a learning curve, there's an adjustment, and it's hard
enough for one position, let alone two, and there's just
not enough hours in the day and the body the

(36:56):
wear and tear that it takes on you.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
And look, maybe even.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Coming up of a rookie season, you know where you
don't really get a break.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, I'll tell you this.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
I'll say this, and I don't want to finish his
point for him, but I will say it's it's interesting
if if you have a guy that is actually able
to go both ways and be that guy both ways
at the pro level, you would have to assume something's wrong,

(37:31):
something is wrong. It's actually exposing the fact that you
have a deficiency at the position, not not that he's
that good. Because we're talking about the pros. What's the
percentage of guys think it's less than a percentage, less
of a percent of guys that play the game and
go pro and play pro. So if you're talking about

(37:55):
there's one guy that belongs in the starting position on
both sides of the ball, both sides, then that could
be more damning to saying what type of what type
of players you have on your team. Somebody should be
good enough to be the starting quarter or somebody should
be stuck good enough to be the starting receiver. Yeah,

(38:17):
I mean to me, I think that that's more damning
if you really were to dissect it that that's where
I would the pros is way different than college. I'll
say that it is very and you can finish your point, Q,
but I think the pros like it is way way
different than college. And by the way, the guys that
get the breaks, the guys that don't don't don't condition

(38:39):
as much because of all of the wear and tear
on their body and all the running that they're during
during the course of a practice. Are what two positions,
the corner the receiver. So it's not even like, oh
I get to stand in one in one place and
not do anything. You're constantly running. Those are the two
positions where you're constantly running. So I just think it's interesting.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Man, No, I think you're right, and I just again
I look at it.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
I just don't know that people are gonna care if
they have a certain success. But the best point you
made is the fact that you know it is a
job that he's trying to fill and wear two hats,
and typically you've got guys compete for the spots and
it's competitive and it's not gonna be the case. I mean,
I know the organization looks at it and feels like, hey,
when we dress forty six on game day, we feel

(39:30):
like we're stealing two roster spots, like we can have
someone else up active because he can go both ways.
I just I don't foresee it working out the way
they think it's going to. If he's gonna be playing
that much both ways. I think he's got to focus
on one play, cornerback, and then sprinkle in on offense,
because that's the easiest way of doing it. I think

(39:52):
it's harder to do it the other way around, like
the way they were trying to do it last year.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
To me, like it just it doesn't work that way.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
I think as a defense, you'd like to have continuity
of who's out.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
There with you.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
I know, you change, you know, from Nickel and Dime
and Big Nickel, et cetera. But like the reality is,
you're out there with your boys and you're you know,
you're on that side of the ball throughout the course
of week preparing and have a very specific, consistent manner
of which you're going about doing it, and so you
need that guy there. And I think offensively, that's the

(40:24):
group where you change up a lot more of what
you do with personnel so why not give him more
of a break. Why not give him those ten twelve
snaps per game on offense, but let him solely be
that guy on defense to figure out other ways he
can help out your offense. It's just it didn't make
sense how they were doing it last year. If this
is the road they want to go.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
On, I mean, if he was just a cornerback or
just a receiver, would they have drafted him as high
as they did or given up as much as they did.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
They it's justified to say you could. You could justify
that he's that talented, he's that gifted, and I don't
think there's any problem with it. I think the problem
with it is that that's what the bill of goods
was being sold with him in his camp and coming out,

(41:16):
and it's sold. It's stuck with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They
saw the potential of it, they saw what it could
be for them, and they jumped at it. So the
answer to your question is it wouldn't be a problem
if they just came out and said, Travis Hunter is
going to play one side of the ball. We're going
to concentrate on him being all the things that we

(41:39):
said there would be no problem with it, but the
fact that they continue to tinker with and mess around
with and play around with the idea and romanticize the
fact that he could be a legit two way player.
It has never happened in the National Football League, and

(42:00):
I will venture to say it most likely will never
happen in the National Football League. This could be potentially
as close as we've ever gotten to a guy being
considered to be a legitimate two way player, a two
way starter, a starter on both sides of the ball
on the depth chart. That would be crazy. It would

(42:22):
be crazy. And I don't see that ever happening in
the National Football League, which is funny because football used
to be an iron man sport. And I don't know
if people realize this, but guys actually went both ways
at some point in time historically in the game. So that's,
you know, kind of a thing iron man football. But

(42:44):
these days modern day football ain't happening. And all love,
all respect, good luck to Travis Hunter, but you're not
No one is going to be that person at the
National Football League level. I feel confident in making that that,
you know, that proclamation that ain't gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Did Charles Woodson Did he just return kicks or did
he play offense as well too?

Speaker 6 (43:08):
He played some offense, He played some offense. He played
a lot of offense and return punts in college. He
was he was a multi I mean he was a
multi position player. Champ Bailey was a multi position player,
played some offense and at the league level two. But again,
he didn't play.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Woodson didn't do as far as offense. I don't think
he did any of it at the NFL. Like he
returned some kicks.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
I think he might have got in maybe a few
times on offense. But again it's not there's a difference
between putting a guy in and saying he can stretch
the field out, or he can give us an extra
weapon in this package, in this set versus you come
out first drive of the game or or or consistently

(43:58):
this guy is out there as a main call to
your your your unit on offense. Nobody's ever done that.
Nobody's ever done that.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Woodson two catches for twenty seven yards in his career.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
So seemed like it worked out when they just stuck
him on one side of the ball.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Hall of Famer out, Yeah, Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Yeah, well that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Man, if if he puts on a gold jacket by
the end of it, if they want a Super Bowl,
no one's gonna question the tactics.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
And by the way, you should question your tactics though,
because if.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You're ever forty and you're still working, still competing, but
your energy starts to drop, no weight to start and stick,
it's not a discipant problem.

Speaker 5 (44:36):
Guys. That's biology. Doesn't mean you have to accept it.

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Speaker 2 (44:45):
By the way, speaking of the heisman, Levar's dog just
gave him the heisman. Wait, I want to know that
he wanted I can see on camera.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
I wanted a huh.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, he wanted nothing to do with you.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
And then he and then he blew hole in my face. Man, like, Oh,
it's it's so bad. It's so bad.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
What kind of diet you got him on? What kind
of food you get?

Speaker 6 (45:06):
Well, every once in a while, will given like if
I cook us steaks, I get him mistake. He had
a steak yesterday, you cook it? Oh raw, it's raw.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Dog oh god.

Speaker 6 (45:24):
I mean, I know, I know you listen to me
do sports talk radio sticks, but I guess he didn't
like this topic.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
By the way, that is, do you really get it?
Like you could actually throw up with with the.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
With all yet what he just did just it's rancid,
very bad.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Because I think people think that you're embellishing when you
when you get sick like that.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But I've seen you, not seen you in studio actually.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Get like almost like ready to go, like got to
run to the to the trash can shah.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
By the way, it is Two Pros and a Cup
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Some people also doing some digging in the world of sports.
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Welp you let TMZ sniff around for a little while.

(47:21):
They're gonna do some digging. They're gonna find some stuff.
And as reported yesterday, Mike Frabele and Diana Rossini rented
a private boat in Tennessee back in twenty twenty one
when he was still then coach of the Tennessee Titans.
She was also pregnant at the time and two months

(47:44):
later had a child named a Michael. You know, just
that's you know, congratulations to them, And apparently they were
really cautious about pictures being taken. He took a group picture,
did Mike Rabel, but he wanted to make sure that
it did not get out publicly. They spent about two

(48:06):
to three hours out there on the boat, and nobody
was with them. And apparently that is the latest dig
and fined by TMZ in this saga and this story
that apparently is not going away anytime soon. I thought
we had about seventy two hours of all right, everything's

(48:28):
calm down, I will feel good about getting ready for
the season.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
And now Drake May's being asked about it again. And
now this.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Story comes out with the boat rental back in Tennessee,
back in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
I'll let you, I'll let you and Q have this topic.
I'm wait, I'm gonna wait until the.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
What week one?

Speaker 6 (48:52):
Yeah, schedule release week one. I'm gonna wait until a
week one to start.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
We're not scheduled to this week one is what we've
talked about.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
I mean, I'm not sure if I mean, you do
this often where you try to take like a victory parade.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
I'm may, we're in May, like this thing will eventually
move on.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Like to me, this is I mean, obviously it's incredibly damning.
It's awful to see the whole sit I mean, I'm
not really sure outside of the additional different ways they've
done things like where this whole thing is headed. But
it's pretty clear I think at this point that we've
got a timeframe of what was happening over that time frame.

(49:36):
I mean, if you want to go down that road,
there was speculation that it might be his child. Now
this does not have anything to do with that, because
she was already pregnant, but the fact that they would
do similar this while she was the whole thing, I mean,
it feels like there was a relationship, a love affair,
whatever you want to call it. I think that's been
well established. So as more and more stuff comes out,

(50:00):
it just gets harder on Dinah's husband, Mike, Brabel's wife,
their families, and that's that's the.

Speaker 5 (50:06):
Toughest part with all of this.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
But again, I think you go back to the initial
resignation by Diana. You know, she obviously knew what was
coming or what potentially could have been out there. It
just keeps going back to, you know, does she ever
find herself in a place where she can work again
in this industry? And for Mike Grabel, you know, has
he been honest with his team? Has he told them

(50:31):
every part of this and and completely come out and
been upfront with it about what has transpired and over
what period of time? Because if he has, I think
they'll they'll look at him and say, okay, like he
owned up to it. But if he hasn't, And as
more comes out, that's where you lose credibility and trust

(50:54):
with the players.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
And that's at the current moment, and it will it will.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It will be the case as even more stories like
this come out. That's the biggest issue, the biggest thing
right now that I'm sure that the Patriots are concerned about,
worried about, or that they're looking at if they were
going to say eventually to Mike.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
A you need to move on.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah. I feel.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Less confident in my stance from earlier this week based
on this, this latest development that came out of this
latest report I just think that there's going to be more.
I think that this goes deeper than was initially thought.

(51:41):
We mentioned it yesterday. The part that I look back
on and go maybe there was more to that is
the fact that Robert Kraft himself went to the New
York Post to try and get them to not release
the photos. And I think it's because maybe he had
an understanding that there was way more to this than

(52:01):
just some photos on a rooftop at some nice fancy
place in Arizona.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And I and I.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Think that the more the TMZ goes and digs around
into this, the more they're gonna find stuff. And I
don't see this ending anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
So it is it safe to say that the more
that's coming out, it's it's it was one of the
worst kept secrets. I mean, it just seems like, and
maybe this works too to Mike Rabels like his advantage.

(52:41):
I think a lot of people were aware of it,
and I wouldn't be surprised if if Robert Kraft was
aware of it, and I just maybe that's working to
his advantage. I And in terms of internally, I think
he'll be fine internally for one reason or another. I
think he'll be fine. I just think the external is

(53:03):
going to be what continues to be perpetuated the fact
that he still has a job. Diana Rassini doesn't. I
think that's a thing. I think that's going to continue
to be a thing. I think the more that these
these stories come out, these peppered stories that come out,
peppering the audience, peppering the and prodding the mob, I

(53:27):
think it goes one or two ways. It either continues
to go and then it catches, it catches some real
momentum and then there's pressure. The public opinion will create
an enormous amount of pressure as it applies to ownership

(53:48):
decision makers for the New England Patriots. It could be
the impact on his personal, you know, relationship with his family.
It could be one of those two things. Or it
could subside and go away. I don't think it will
go away completely, I do not, but it could subside
to to a I guess a level where it's like

(54:12):
move on, move on from it. And maybe some people
are there now. But for for what it's worth, media
just does not give away perfect storm scandals. They just don't.
They don't do it. This one is even bigger. I
think this one is even bigger than the last one
that came out with with Joey Taylor and Charlie Dixon.

(54:33):
This one is bigger. Oh, I just think it's bigger. Yeah,
So it's God.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
If he resigns, the storyline is still going to perpetuate
in the season.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
If he were to resign, Yes, it's still would it
would it would still, it would still continue on because
everything that the pay, just like everything the Patriots are
going to do, something's going to lead to you think
about the scandal.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Yeah, but they don't think TMZ is going to keep
reporting on this stuff unless there's legal issues that that
go into it, Like they can keep putting out these stories,
then people are gonna be like, well, yeah, neither of
them in the positions they're in anymore, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
Yeah, but I think you got to look at it
from the standpoint of it's not really about Diana and
Mike if he were to resign at that point now,
it's about the New England Patriots. So whatever's taking place there.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
They don't I don't think good want to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
They won't want to talk.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
About still just feel like, hey, we've moved on. That's
not the situation represented.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
You know that. But you and I both know that's
not how media works. They don't care if you want
to talk about it or not. There's they're going to
bring up.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
It did always work when Bill Belichick was there, It
really did. I mean how many times did he just
plainly stand there and go, we're honest, Cincinnati, we're on
this and stay they.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Had a murderer on their team, Yeah they did.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
They think about how many things from that spygate to
deflaate Gate to that situation with.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Aaron Hernandez and that was always Ronisin Snati.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Yeah, well, let's see how it works. I'm I'm standing firm.
I don't want to say I shussed out. I mean,
I don't. I don't feel like this is one of
those topics where I'm you know, I'm bodacious and boldly
like laughing and boisterous about it and stuff. It's a

(56:29):
very sombering tale of a situation where two people's private
business was violated by the media and now you know,
there's fallout from it. You know, it is what it is.
Why can't they be friends? You know? I look, you
know why couldn't they have rented a boat because they
were celebrating her pregnancy, Like why can't a guy and

(56:53):
a girl be friends without it being something connected?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Or he needed a sober driver for that boat. I
told you, you know, I just think you know, cocktails?

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Why did he need to co sidne Isn't that how
they found out about all this?

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Like that?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
That's that's the other thing. I'm not really sure it
makes any sense. Because they asked him like, oh, you
guys both gonna be driving? I would be like, yeah, no,
only one's gonna be driving.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
But like, it's just.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I mean there's that element of it too, where you're
kind of looking at going like if they were trying
to hide something they were.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Not good at us.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Yeah, I do know this. If Mike ends up being
a dope ass football player, the story's coming back, Okay,
If he becomes a five star he ends up going over.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
You're saying like eighteen years.

Speaker 6 (57:42):
Ago, Hey man, If Mike end up being a stone
cold baller, I mean there's just going to be questions.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Can we can I throw a a wager at you
a little different spin on whether or not this story
goes away a week one? How about is Mike were
able to coach of the Patriots week one.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Mm hmm. You've said this before.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
I know, I think, and I'm I'm doubting it a
little bit more and more now. That's the one thing
that I think I've changed on. I thought they'd be
able to weather the storm. This I think continues to
make it harder and harder.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
It's hard, man, Optics, Optics are everything. It's hard. This
is a hard one. I would I would venture to say,
I would venture to say it will be. It will
cut deep and it will cut close. But I think

(58:37):
Mike rabel Has and I think Robert Kraft, they they
have the jewels to do it. They'll pull through it.
It's just not going to be void of coverage. That's
all I'm gonna say. But I think they will make
it through. I think he will continue to coach. But
you know that that that leash is a little bit shorter.

(59:00):
You got it. You gotta manage it a whole lot
differently than what you have in the past, just based
off of something that didn't even have anything to do
with football, which is wild, but that is what it is.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
God, they were sloppy, I mean.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
Just I mean, at this point, at some point, you
should just be like, look, I'm leaving him, I'm leaving her,
and let's like let's just let's go ahead and do
this thing. Like yeah, it sounds like that's a full
fledged relationship.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Yeah, Like I don't know, I don't I don't know
how to just look. Just look at it as if
when my wife was pregnant two months from giving birth
to my son, if she said, hey, I'm gonna go
out on a boat for two to three hours with
this guy, I'd be like, huh.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Yeah, but if your wife's but if your wife's job
consisted of her being an insider, you know, you don't
really know what she is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
That's you're too much away from from giving birth and
you're out on a boat on a lake with a
head coach and it's just you two.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
Like that a head coach at some point, it's a coordinator.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
Yeah, coordinator doesn't matter.

Speaker 8 (01:00:15):
Well, clearly, I mean everything, you know, everything in a
different direction.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, I mean, it's all about the title.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
But just if you got the head coach and then
you have your coordinators there.

Speaker 11 (01:00:33):
And got a real team effort going and then if
God forbid, it comes out that you know mentioned this
earlier that the speculation know is that his kid is
that if that comes out, what the f man?

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
This is what you need to just go ahead and
get Yeah, it's it's got too much bone, man, too
much meat on that bone. Is this is and and
it's not you know again like legally speaking, this isn't.
I don't. I don't know that this is a legal
It's not a legal story. This is not gonna be
driven by the legalities of anything unless unless Rabel some way,

(01:01:10):
somehow gets let go or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
Maybe you know, there's that, And even Diana could say,
I know, maybe it's pressure to resign.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I don't know that there's this that's potential. Yeah, that's
that's potential. Yeah, that's a good thought. That's a good thought.
I just I think it's more of a human interest story.
It's just these are the types of stories that feed
gossip hounds. And and if you hadn't noticed, our society

(01:01:41):
is full of bitches like it's full, it's full of
soft serve though as people that all they look for
are stories like this to sit down and be like,
let me go through my story. What's the latest on
Diana and Mike?

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
But we love story. I think it does two things.
This story has highlighted. You know, we have this idea
the head coaches are just sitting in a film room,
sitting in their office or on a field coaching the
whole time. They don't have time for anything else. Clearly
that's not the case here. And then from Narsini, you're
looking like, what does an insider do or how did
they get their information? Well, you're you're getting a little
bit of insight into that, I guess, But those two things.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
But look, we love stories. I was just reading a.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Post the other day about Frank Abagnail to catch Me
if you can, and after doing like a deep dive,
they've basically concured up that they don't know that any
of it's true. Like the only thing he made up
was this entire story that led to him getting all
these speaking engagements and making a movie about it. But
there's something that believed it was completely fabricated, that none

(01:02:45):
of that movie was actually true at all, Which is
you think about it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:50):
It doesn't help that our name is Diana either. I'm
just saying, I mean, yeah, that's I guess Michael Jackson
made a song about Diana. The Princess was Diana's one
of the biggest, maybe the largest scam scam those deals, you.

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