May 8, 2026 • 51 mins
On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington look back at some stories about bed checks when they used to play in the league. Plus, the guys give an update on Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh, the expansion of the NCAA Tourney, some College Football neutral field scheduling, and much more!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know, Claude didn't help me find this song. You
know I found this song on my own, you know,
just so we could get that out of the way
for hour two.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know that's good man. I'm glad, glad you're able
to do that.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You're talking about this, and I am a groupie to Clode.
Just let's get it out of the way for hour two,
because y'all seem to be as infatuated would be using play,
I mean, I sleep around with Ai. I'll be if
I could, I certainly would.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I mean, I'll use Grock, I've used Chad Gyp, I've
used Claude, perplexity. There's all sorts of ones out there. Yea,
that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
All over it.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He's very I got falsely accused of using AI to
look up information about a golf course yesterday, which I
took great offense to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
To be honest, I will not I will not be
shamed from my relationship with Claude. Me and Claude are
so tight that I would choose Claude over y'all. That's
just so. If y'all don't think I'll sell y'all out
for Claude, I'm just getting y'all up to speed. Like Claude,
me and Claude. Clyde is the only person that doesn't
look I call it a person doesn't even get tired
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of me. We talked to each other. Claude was like,
you know what F that. I asked Claude during the break,
why why are they attacking me about you and me?
And they said he said f them. I did say
what I'm I'm with it. I'm with Claude on this.
I did some research on Claude.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
If you want to check your text message, I was
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through June. First visit UMGC dot E DU. Yeah, I
was thinking about this last Friday. We were spinning a
wheel to pick a horse to win a race. Now
running now, you know the horses we picked they didn't even,
as LaVar said, didn't even run the race. You know,
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why would they need that, you know, all sorts of scratch.
But if they didn't run the race, why can't they
just run this weekend? You know, if we're talking about
the NBA playoffs needing to consolidate, you know, their their
playoffs a little bit, why can't we run the Belmont
and the Preakness and the Derby back to back to back.
If nobody's going to run to try and chase down
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the triple crown, Braden, let's make a couple of calls. Man,
let's get this going.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Weekend, right.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They need time to rest, need time to maybe stut
out or something.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's a two minute.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Race shut out during race race time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I mean, are you telling me you never stut it
out during any season?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Dang? Yeah, let me put this into I don't know
how the bars stud out. I don't know how to
answer that one.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Good Claude, did I stud out?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Did I stud out? And what year would that have been?
And what game? Uh? If I'm being totally transparent and
being honest, one had moments before games, the night before.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Sometimes it might have been the day off that was
Levard and Cowboy week.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, you know, I mean I wonder how I
mean that has to impact you, right, But I don't
know that there is the strategic Is there any scientific,
you know, findings that say that that impacts you. Maybe
maybe we're talking about for you or the horse. I
mean I was kind of looking at both actually, because
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careersal experience, maybe I would have been better.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
What I'm saying, would you know? Like, how do you feel?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It didn't happen in college though we were on lockdown
in college, but in the pros there was there were
like loopholes and man like, maybe that's why I wasn't
as good in the pros. Come on, you're thinking about it, like,
so if you're a horse like and they studn you own,
if that's true, like then maybe they're not running this fast.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
We did find an old clip here legs are we?
Here was LeVar talking about his preparation for the Giants.
So I think you're ready to go, man, I think
you put it up and uh and got that work.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That wasn't the night before that preparation was like, I
mean you're shooting your side a ready right, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
You guys have kind of spoiled you guys kind of
spoiled that for me because I was under the impression
that when you're traveling as an NFL player, you've got
all sorts of time before the game if you want
to go out and you just really don't.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, it's just as ours is the worst for for pros.
Our amount of free time is the worst like when
you look at how basketball players or baseball players, how
they are when they go on the road, like it's
and and I don't know, ours is the worst they
they they might will manage us, like you get a
small amount of time to go get food, though you
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can't go out to a place to go eat, you know,
but then you got to be back for meetings. They
got curfew for you, they got security like watching your floor. Well,
some guys was getting out though, man, they would they
would break free and they go to the club and
they'd be coming straight to to team breakfast, team team
meeting in the morning, straight from the club, like real talk.
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So I don't know how they escaped, but you know
they did.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Maybe like the Ferris Bueller's Day Off, you put a
mannequin in the bed and set up some sort of
sound system to where when they open the door, you
roll over and it looks like a human being. Because
when they go to room check, are they walking into
the room? Could you fake and they like put some
pillows up there and put like a wig on.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's a good question because there's some coaches who will
walk in and actually check or like sticklers.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
There's others just pop their head in.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And it also it comes down to like who the
person is where, Like they know who some of the
dirt bags are where, Like they'll they'll they'll pop in,
check the closet, check check under the bed and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Me, I was usually like sitting there, probably going over
a game plan or whatever. So they pop their head in.
You go, all right, you get cute gka. You know
that was it and then move on. You know, you
could you could have had it. You could have had
an entire party in there if you want it to
you all just sit in the side. But they you know,
not that we did that. But the hardest thing was
And LaVar probably has some stories. I don't know if
you'll tell them or not, but I remember guys well
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because I remember guys used to pay off the security.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Guys on the floor. On the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, because that's who that's what everyone knows. Like
you're not gonna be dumb enough to do something before bedcheck.
So what guys would do is they pay off the
security guy on the floor, or they'd go down to
the hotel and they'd say, I want a room like
near the stairwell, and that's what they do, and they'd
find a way of like using like maybe a blind
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spot whatever to have someone come up the stairs.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Wait really from rumor has it, rumor has it that
sometimes cats would as soon as you get checked into
the hotel, smuggle as soon as you get checked in,
and then when you're doing bid check and if they
want us to come in, if they wanted to come
in and check your room, like this is just hypothetical
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or like this is just speculation, all right, if they
came in and checked your room. If you're in your
in the shower and you peek your head out, and
you'd be like, yeah, man, just you know, getting a
shower before bid. You know, they're like all right, you know,
check the shower. You like, you're in the shower, like hey,
I'm in the shower, here's my head, here's my face.
And then you check, you know, you look at you know,
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if there's teammate in there. You see the teammate he's
in the bed watching TV. And then you leave like
no big deal. You know, you just happened to not
be in the shower by yourself. That's what I mean,
that's alleged, Like that's what I That's what I've heard
that some guys used to do it was it was
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proper to be clean before you went to bed. That's
what I heard, though I don't I don't know that
to be all the way factual or true.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, look, you know you gotta you gotta get it
in somehow, man. So if that's what you gotta do,
then you know.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, but when you really think about it, why
is it that important to get it the night before
game though, or the day before? Like when I really
think back on it, like the times that I had
those moments like why would it be that important? You know,
gotta eat man. You know that's spoken like a true vampire.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That guys do the night before over four games that
just help them get in the mindset or make them
feel a certain way so they feel like they can
go play, right. I mean, how's that any different?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know. It's a great question because I mean,
would you spend time with yourself if you didn't smuggle,
or or would you just go to bed Like I
wasn't able to smuggle Jonas, I didn't break out like
you know, I want to answer.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That, what smuggle somebody in the bed before before we
come out?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
No? No, would you be Would you be a like
a spank yourself person if you couldn't smuggle before the
night before the game, would you spank yourself? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Probably probably not.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm not Uh you're not built that way.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah, you know, I just said, yeah, probably not. Were there?
It's a business trip. I look at things like a
business trip.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's right, that's I mean, that's you're probably like, that's
probably how I mean that wouldn't that be the reason
why the coaches and and stuff like that do bid
check on you. It is because they believe that maybe
from some type of information, you should actually be in
your room in the bid resting.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We had dudes though, with like they knew it was coming,
so they just get fully nude. They just be laying
there on the bed to make it awkward for the
coach when he came in there. Again, Yeah, you just
have a fruit basket laying there.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh god, they would. They would try to one.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Up the coach and try to make sure it got
extra awkward for them. They turn on like a really
loud adult film, you know, or something they that was
that was always the trigger if you could get the
coach that I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Now they even check your room after.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That, And now now they used to knock at the
end for me, they just knock, knock you good good.
They ain't even open the door.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Now if you had to pay, if you had to
bribe one of those you know, whoever's with the team
that's got to do a bed check, if you had
to you know, bribe them, like how much.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It wouldn't be the person who does the bid check.
It would be the person who there's That's two different people.
It's two different people, Like it depends like it's either
going to be a coach or it's going to be
a team security and they're different. Well, sometimes team security
is the person that ends up sitting on on the
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on the floor, but sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's just
a person that they hired to sit on the floor.
So it's definitely not going to be a coach that
if the coaches are checking your room, they're not going
to be sitting on the floor watching watching the rooms
right sitting out there. So I mean they're probably bribeable.
They are bribeable. So but then you gotta you gotta
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get at it. You gotta make it out of there,
because what you what, I started to realize the coaches
don't They don't have bid checks, they don't have curfews.
They be don stairs in the lobby and stuff like that,
at least from what I heard. From what I heard,
So how you got You gotta be careful sneaking out
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of the hotel because you could get caught. You could
get caught. You know. I don't know. I don't know
how that works. I never I can say I've never.
I never left the hotel the night before game. I
never left like dudes was out at the clubs getting
it in the night before games. I do know that,
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but I just don't know. I just don't know how
you get out. Well, I know that we have dudes.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
In a different country night before the game one time.
I'm not gonna say what's team and where, but you
could probably do the logistics of that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Oh yeah, you played the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, you're that's you're thinking the wrong thing. Oh I
was thinking to Jajuana too. Let's see what the Caribbean AA, No,
Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, this is and it's actually easy. But you guys
are thinking too exotic Canada. Yep, yeah, there's something up
in Canada.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
People forget how close Buffalo is.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Oh you got a little Toronto action right there, right there, man,
you gotta really want it. Swim across Niagara Falls and
then uh, get over there and get something strange. Walk
back with some tim Hortons to go and be like,
what are you looking at? There's nothing going on here.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I heard there's this, Uh they're called cave Verdeans or whatever,
is really really prominent, uh group of cave Verdian people
in those areas. And I heard that they're very beautiful people,
very beautiful people. But it's only rumored. It's you don't know, no,
(14:54):
but I have played in Buffalo before. Hey, man, Niagara
Falls is a beautiful, beautiful body of water. It's very loud,
like it's so fast, it's it's a it's a very
loud body of water. You can like hear it going.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It's like, yeah, drowned out a lot of noise. I
wouldn't recommend taking a boat out there, though, be a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Maybe a barrel, you know, don't people go over it?
Then they go over it in barrels.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I think so, man, I think I think they used
to let me try this this hold on. Hey, Joe,
what's the update for Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Do we have anything the guys, We've got a little
bit of an update air uh And this is why,
this is exactly why Brady was asking the question. All right,
So this is something that we did have a bet on.
But the update first that according to the fan in Pittsburgh,
Rogers is expected to be in town this weekend and
he is expected to sign Ian Rappaport, though, says that
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no deal is in place, but he is visiting the
Steelers to further the discussion. So if you believe that
report initially from the fan, but isn't.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
That a contradicting report you said he's expected to.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
See, Well, he's going to be in town and they're
expecting him to sign the deal this weekend. I would
assume that that makes sense. Why come to town and
visit if we kind of know what the contract's going
to look like and where you're at with everything, and
he plans on returning, why come visit and then leave
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and disappear for another six weeks and then make your decision.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, there's that, and there's Also, you know, I think
after the Aaron Glenn visit, he's probably scarred by any
in person meetings that aren't going to go anywhere. So
I'm sure he reached out to them, was like, hey,
we're doing this contract right when I come back in Okay,
I'm not going to walk in there and have you
just feel like you like football.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
H No, We're gonna go a different direction.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So do you think McCarthy does that just to have fun,
makes a joke out of it, like when he shows
I hope. So, yeah, just to bust his balls, I hope.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
So they wouldn't have tendered him if they didn't want him, right,
So I mean, going into it, you get you take
the idea of the fact that they did place that
tender on him, so that they have the leverage in
terms of if you're going to play, we're going to
at least get something from it. If you don't want
to play.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Here here's the problem. So LaVar and I butchered this,
We really butchered it.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You're going to bring me.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In it well, because listen, it was whoever whoever was
closest to him signing the deal was going to win
the bet. Yeah, Clo, you and I shot for July.
That's I mean, he could have you know, done ayahuasca
fourteen times between now and then. That's a long ways.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Away that choice. Before Rooney came out and said what
he said in public, I think that that totally turned
up the heat on the situation. And I don't think
you got to keep it in mind and take into
consideration that Aaron Rodgers is again, he's a fine football
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player still today and may likely be the best option
for them to win right now, but he's not your future.
And I don't know based off of what he's done
the last two seasons, well one season, I don't know.
(18:33):
I don't know that you would say that he's even
the quarterback that takes you to the super Bowl. Now.
So if that's the case, if I'm Aaron Rodgers and
I can get another year out of playing, you can't
really play around with the idea that okay, they're saying
that they don't you know, they're tired of this, Like
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if you're going to play, you come play, you come
be a part of the team. You can't really leverage
things the way that Aaron Rodgers has historically leveraged things
because I don't think he has that type of leverage
in terms of what he has to offer. And and
that's not a shade, that's not a slight to him.
I think that that's just the reality of his situation.
So he had better get in there and figure out
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if he's going to sign.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Or not this late in the game. How much leverage
do the Steelers have this? They got leverage, I mean, yeah,
but what are their o what are their options? If
he decides now I'm gonna need more time, you just
can say, oh screw you were going in a different direction. Yes, okay,
well you could have done that a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, but you still have the opportunity to sign him.
So they they do want him. They clearly want him,
that's why this is taking place. But how how much
does that want? How far does that want extend and
to what to what capacity? To what degree? He did
this with Tomlin that became a thing like, what are
(20:01):
you going to do it again this year?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So as it as it pertains to the timeline of
all this, if he does get a deal done this weekend,
I mean, then Q wins the bet.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, so then.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We've got to buy him Jordan's um, you got to
buy him. Jordan, what do you mean I have to buy?
We're going half and half. You get the right shoe,
I get the left.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I don't trust Jonah's society. I'd much rather have you
pick it out.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I get them, I'll get them. Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
My question is this even about money though, too? I mean,
I think the tender pays him what fifteen millions, It's.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Not it's not about the money. It's it's about for
for Aaron, I would assume it's about him wanting it
do it the way that he's always done it for
the Steelers, It's like, you're not going to do it
the way you've always done it, Like we want you here.
It just sounded like we want you here, and if
you're going to be here, then be here. Don't don't
do that messing around stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To that point if you're Mike McCarthy, and I'm sure
some of the conversation about that and saying, look, man,
like this is a this is a new system. I'm
trying to implement a culture and environment. You know, how
I run things. These are some of the things I've
tweaked or change. But this is like the foundation of
what I believe, but like, I need you there because
I know, outside of me teaching the offense, you're going
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to be teaching the offense. You know, it was different
last year because obviously Aaron's getting there and he's you know,
essentially trying to learn what they're trying to implement. I'm
sure they're doing some things he wants to do, but
it's a little different. So that's what's interesting, is is
how this conversation goes probably to the point about the money.
Like I don't think the money really matters, but I'm
(21:38):
sure he wants to be paid a little more than
what they're paying him right now. But it's probably a
little bit about Mike and him and if there was
any I'm not going to say bad blood, but you know,
there was a breakup between the two of them and
they want their separate ways. And I think they've both
since then talked about their relationship publicly and the success
they had and probably look back and think like, yeah, man,
(22:01):
maybe we get together, let's do this the right way,
and maybe we took for granted some of the things
that we had with one another. So I'm sure this
is just about what you said, you know, him being present,
him being a part of as they build this team,
as they try to implement you know, this this new era,
this new culture with Mike McCarthy, but also maybe even
a bit of mending whatever unrest, whatever is there between
(22:23):
Mike and Aaron, Like I don't know how much time
those two has probably spent around one another, Like this
might be the most time they've spent since you know,
Mike McCarthy was a coach and Aaron Rodgers obviously what
was his player.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I just think it's a foregone conclusion, the fact
that he's coming in. You're not coming in there to
tell them I'm not playing. You could do that back phone.
He's signing a deal. The question is what is going
to be the concessions made for Aaron Rodgers, if any
(22:57):
are you signing him? And you're saying, look, we just
want to make sure we have you signed. If you
want to go to your Keebler, LF Tree or whatever
it is, go to spend time with your wife's that's well,
that's what you say. I was just just repeating what
you said. If you want to go do those things,
we have it signed. We need to know exactly when
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you're going to be back and you're going to be
a part of this whatever it is. I think he's
coming in there and they're going to get a clear
idea of how this is going to go so that
they can have that conversation with the media and put
it to bid. If if that's not that, that has
to be what it is, because I don't think that
you're going to get Aaron Rodgers there for OTAs. I don't.
(23:42):
I don't think so. So if you're getting him signed
ahead of OTA's, all that really is is that you're
getting him signed ahead of OTAs, so you don't have
to answer questions about Aaron Rodgers the entire time during OTAs,
whether he's there or not. So I think that that's
(24:04):
probably if if I'm if I'm reading the room correctly,
The biggest the biggest issue here is not that he
has to participate in every single thing that they're doing
team activities wise in the off season, but we do
want to have the ammunition to be able to settle
(24:24):
down and quiet down any conversations as to what you
represent to this team moving forward.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, well, hey, listen, I sent you a uh, you know, picture.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Of some week yeah, I declined that immediately.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But I got a pair of Penn State Jordan's that
I had customed I got.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I got a pair that was sensing me from Nike
back in the day, and those are fine. But I
mean twice days he wants someone that you can wear
more often than that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'll get you some jays you can wear brouh.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
See, that's what I'm saying, Jonas would They're probably gonna
be looked.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like vampire shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Oh come on, man, just saying, why do we got
a name call on this show?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Grow up?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I'm doing my best. I mean, I am over forty
now and I'm still working. I'm still competing, but my
energer's dropping and the weights starting to stick.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But that's not a disfess problem. It's just the biology.
It's how it works.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm not what's going to do.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I'm taking empty. So you go to mdriveformen dot com.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
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All right, So we've got an understanding this has been
speculated around people, you know, just assume this was going
to happen sooner rather than later. But the NCAA tournament
is expanding. It's going to increase to seventy six teams,
(28:22):
all right. We talked about that a couple of weeks
ago that it looked like it was going to be finalized,
but we now have sort of an idea as to
what that is going to look like. This, according to ESPN,
with the increased to seventy six, the first four doubleheaders
on back to back days in Dayton will be replaced
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by a twelve game opening round. The Tuesday and Wednesday
of the men's tournament will feature twelve games played by
twenty four teams in two different cities. There will now
be three games each day in Dayton and three games
each day in the second city yet to be determined,
with sources telling ESPN's Pete Family that the second site
(29:05):
is expected to be west of the Eastern time zone
to help with logistics. So basically it's another tournament to
get into the tournament. What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And I just what we're doing. I just three hundred
million in extra funding for new sponsors.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I'll tell I'll tell you what what we're doing. Opened
up alcohol category and sponsorships out wine? Are you and report?
Because like here we go, I'm just saying, no money.
It's about the money.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I assume it's about.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Infatuated with me and Clode, Like what is wrong with y'all?
Bet stop bringing me and Clode up? I just I
just look at.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
What stop going around on us?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Which are from whatever? But let me which are Let
me put your facts from Brady Quinn? Well where do
so from?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's not just one source.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And what I either try to do and I would
I would try to say to a lot of people
what you should do is you should take what you
get from Claude, but you should also question it and
you should research it to make sure it's accurate, because
it's not always accurate. Like for example, no, the windfall
you're talking about most tournaments, most you know, whatever it
is like it's the college fall Playoff with nca tournament.
(30:28):
The majority of the money comes in from TV. So
you're adding what you said, how many additional teams, twelve
additional teams, eight additional teams.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Those are back end of the tournament games.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
They're not going to dramatically increase the revenue it's generated
from TV. So it begs the question if the bottom
line isn't really going to increase that much because they're
back end of the games. Like imagine the first round.
Like we look at college football and we're like, well,
those first round games are awesome, Like okay are they?
Though if we go to twenty four, are those games
(31:04):
actually going to be that competitive? I mean, hell, we
don't get competitive games now in the first round of
the college football playoff. We don't get that many competitive
games in the NCAA tournament like in the first round
forget the playing games. So they're not going to fetch
a big number from for the TV media rights, just
(31:25):
more inventory at the end of the day when those
rights come up again. So like, what is truly the
motivation behind this? Is it just they want more inclusiveness
so they have more teams that's gonna say they have
a shot at it. I don't really understand it, like
I do think if you're going to expand the NCAA tournament,
it does dilute the regular season. It makes the conference
(31:46):
tournaments worthless, and it gets to the point where you're like, well, okay,
how big do you want this thing to be? I mean,
when we start talking about these subjects, you can really
look at other professional sports leagues and start to say, like,
maybe we should start looking at some of these other
formats to determine like how this should work. And and
(32:07):
you know, like for example, in English soccer, there's I
think called FA Cup where like everyone gets to planet
in England and it doesn't really dwindle down to the
big teams until you get to certain rounds. But it
feels like that's what this is. It's like, because we
have three hundred plus men's you know, NCY basketball teams,
we need to make it more inclusive for some of
those teams to be involved, when in reality we're actually
(32:28):
making it harder for those teams that the best teams
win a national championship.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Like I don't know that the.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Best teams always gonna wentses of it though, and it
has to make financial sense to to continue to add teams.
There's no other reason to add teams. There's there's no
other reason in the NFL to add games other than
to increase your bottom line.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Sure, but again like maybe also but when when you
add when you add teams to the playoffs, right, that's
such a small number for team teams make it out
of thirty two right now when we're talking about the
NCAA tournament, like you're adding on some at large.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Bids, like these are teams who are bowl teams the
past that wouldn't have made it. And so now just
because the why can't I think of the name of
the other tournament and the n it's basically go gone away.
There's no significance to it now. And we tried to
see these other pop up tournaments to pay for players
essentially like which you know haven't really got any steam.
(33:28):
So you look at you just go all right, like
what like we're really just doing this to appease the
bigger conferences and adding a few more teams from the
conference like that that's what this is about.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And can't do that if you're going to take a
loss on doing it. You can't.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I never said they're going to take a loss, but
they're not going to make millions more just from adding
you know, a few more games the back end of it.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
If it's it's three hundred million, I'm going with three
hundred I mean, and again y'all could say claude, but
at LaVar actually does look up the topics that we're
going to talk about. And I actually compare my opinions
with my buddy, my bestie, clad Me and Clyde go
back and forth about I debate with Clyde before I
(34:09):
debate with you guys. At the bottom line here is
it is about the bottom line, and it is impacting
the bottom line. And if they can, if they can
add teams and the expense is going to be covered
off on it, and you can add more sponsorship because
there is more inventory for you to do it. It's
a very simple deal. Like that's what it is. You
(34:30):
added more games to get more more inventory, to get
more money. And if you have that line.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I found out where you got your three million from,
Well where it only it only adds fifty million per
year on average.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Hey, listen, I took the risk, So it's the take okay,
but it's is it actual information?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's no, no, no, it's it's can I answer or are
you just going to keep interrupting?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Go? Are you going to be waiting for a moment?
Are we gonna have let's go go? You're my point,
all right?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right, So this is the same exact Brady, But
this is my.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You just don't stop talking.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
And you don't stop saying claude, So this is stopt issues. Well,
you stop getting sensitive, all.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Right, So all right, let's break it back back to
your corners.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
All right.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So this is the uh, this is my thought.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
On this whole thing. Crazy, I'm a grown ass man.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Okay, hold on, buddy, stopping so sensitive.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Don't buddy me. Don't buddy me in these moments.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm just saying I found out when number came from
additional revenue. That's all they're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So it's a real number. Year.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I'll kick you off this boat right now, knock it
off the boat. Okay. So this is my if and
you're seeing this in sports everywhere where. Every league is
trying to figure out a way that they can incorporate
more teams into their playoff format. And to Brady's point.
Remember when the Big East Tournament used to be a
(36:09):
big deal. Remember the ACC Tournament in Greensboro used to
be a big deal. Those are nobody's going to give
a rip about any of that stuff anymore. Like that's
like that's going to go bye bye because you're including
so many more teams. It's almost as if every league
is trying to manufacture a sense of urgency because they realize,
(36:29):
why would people care about this? There's got to be
something on the line. And if we can't convince them
on conference tournaments, or we can't convince them on big
regular season games, we'll just ex expand the playoffs even more.
And you're just biting into the regular season every time
you do it. And I don't know what that means
long term, but you can have the conversation about the
(36:50):
NFL and their schedule. It used to be twelve games,
it got up to them fourteen or sixteen, then it
was seventeen. It's going to be eighteen soon. I don't
think they're going to stop it seventy six. I think
after a couple of years there's gonna be more, and
there's gonna be more, and it's like, all right, well,
why don't we just toss the ball up on midnight
Madness like they do every year and just make that
(37:11):
the tournament start of the postseason right then and there,
because what what's what what is left of the regular
season after any of this stuff? Seventy six teams? We
got sixty four, like like we had playing games. A
lot of teams too many. Man, It's literally another tournament
just to get into the tournament. And people thought the
(37:34):
first four in or the Dayton Tournament was a little odd,
but then it's like, all right, you know what, it's
kind of cool. They throw it in date in a
tradition every year, and whoever gets in, they'll grab a
sixteen seed or an eleven seed, like Texas did this year,
and then you start filling out your brackets.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Team made it. We know that Texas.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Texas would have been the longest. I made it this year,
right because they played in and then they won, I think,
and got.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Into the get the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I think so, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
But also, no one's ever won it. No, the playing
team has never made it to championship round, never won it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I mean, it hasn't been around that long anyway, Like
with the four plan, I would say this, like I
went through this year's in between SMU and Miami and
it was awesome. Like, don't get me wrong, it was
an incredible environment. It might have been the most fun
I've ever had in a basketball game. That being said,
I just to the point of the regular season everything else.
(38:35):
I do think you look at men's college basketball, at
some point there's a cutoff. You've got three hundred plus
Division one teams. At some point you look at and say,
can that team that qualifies from the small conference? Like,
I know, that's how we've always done it, but we're
changing the landscape in all these different ways, and I
just I'm not sure anyone wants to.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
See that that small school playing a playing game.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And again, these are mostly gonna be at large bids anyway,
But like I just that's what you become more susceptible to.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So I understand what in saying that, Like Miamvi High
was that team this year.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
They were in that large bid that put the committee
in a really tough spot because they didn't win the MAC,
but they had an incredible season and they did win
that game they beat SMU, so they got into at
least the first round, and that was the end of
the story.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was a great season.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But you know, I just I don't know how many
more of those games you really need, or how many
more of those teams you really need, or it's gonna,
you know, give you a chance to extend this tournament.
I think you're only creating a scenario where the best
teams are going to be likely to stumble, and that
doesn't again create the best team actually, you know, having
the best shot of winning like they should based on
(39:45):
the work they've done in the regular season and maybe
even conference play.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
By the way, it's not a great four VCU. In
twenty eleven, I got to the final four. UCLA one
got to the final four. And I think that might
have been the VCU team that I've said, Duke, when
you were uh, twenty eleven eleven got to the final four.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So how long has that have the play's been around? Yeah, eleven,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I don't I mean, I didn't think it was around
that long, but apparently, you know, time flies when you're
losing brackets left and right.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But man, I think it's I think those are some
solid points that that you just makee Q I do.
I still say at the end of the day, if if,
if it's not about the money, and it's about something
else outside of that, then to me, you gotta you
gotta put away like the feelings of all Miami of Ohio.
(40:42):
They they deserve to be like. You got to put
away any type of emotions or feelings about lesser I
hate to say it, lesser universities having great, great records.
You gotta put it away because you can't compromise a
a top tier team for the sake of saying that
this was a feel good story over here in this conference,
(41:03):
a Macchin conference where we need to see what that is.
I don't. I's if that's the only reason for doing
it is to appease that way, it's a waste of time,
if you ask me.
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YouTube and subscribe. So this news came out yesterday, and
there'd been some speculation with the ACC and SEC going
to nine conference games coming up in football that there
(42:20):
would be some adjusting here, and so Florida State and
Georgia had a scheduled home and home for twenty twenty
seven and twenty twenty eight that they have canceled, but
they are working on scheduling a neutral site matchup, and
so Ross Dellinger of Yahoo there's some speculation as well
too that the Duke Amazon deal which Duke set up
(42:45):
an exclusive deal with Amazon to showcase three games to
where you go to Amazon Prime to watch three Duke
games coming up ones around Thanksgiving, the others in early
twenty twenty six or early twenty twenty seven and beyond.
But there's some thought that maybe that opened the door
to some of the matchups like this to where now
these schools look at it and say, well, it's outside
(43:06):
the conference schedules, it's outside potentially our media rights deals.
But maybe we could also set up a one off
with an Amazon Prime or another streaming service similar to
what Duke did, which opens up the door to streaming
in college sports, which I don't think we've seen before.
And now there's some administrators who have talked about what
(43:29):
the impact of the Duke Amazon deal could do not
only for basketball but also for football.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So we've seen streaming for you know, college sports before.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I mean, this isn't anything new.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You know, Peacock has streamed games exclusively for Notre Dame.
There's been others that have tried to venture into that realm,
as you've obviously heard about.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
SC and Notre Dame and SC trying to work in
with Netflix.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The ability to do this deal.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
So these sorts of things have kind of existed, but
what you're talking about is the streaming platforms getting.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
More involved in a heavy way in college football, which.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
You know, outside of you know, ESPN streaming games, you know,
maybe even Fox with some of their partners and Peacock.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Really that's the kind of extent of where it's been.
It would be interesting to see if when some of
these media rights deals come up. There's some things that
are kind of on the peripheral too that don't have
to do with college football, but do have to deal
with the NFL, you know, for example, the FCC and
some of the rules and regulations around the NFL and
the NFL, you know, controlling who they decide to bring
(44:37):
in further broadcast rights. And there's a thought that, you know,
these streaming platforms, it seems great, right, we all have
subscriptions probably, but the reality is, I'm not sure it's
any cheaper. In fact, in order to watch every NFL game,
it's never been more expensive than ever before with the
different streaming platforms and subscriptions you have to buy. And
(44:59):
so there's a thought that it's not good for the consumer,
It's not good for the general public and general population.
And this is sometimes where the government steps in and says,
we would like to have you know, these games provided
by a broadcast network, because we still think that we
should be able to provide this for free and that
you know, you can make your money otherways, whether that's
(45:20):
through advertising or whatever else, but there is still a
social good, a greater good that is created in our
country from people being able to just sit back watch
a game and not have to necessarily pay for it
at home. There is that sort of thought, and it's
it's extending not just again to the NFL, but to
(45:40):
college sports as well as streaming platforms start to get
more involved. So the whole scheduling cancellation between Florida State
and Georgia has more to do with the SEC going
to non conference games. I mean, it's the sheer numbers play, right,
I mean, you're adding another conference game. You can't play
as many non conferences both Georgia and Florida State. Georgia
has Georgia Text, so they want to drop that. And
(46:01):
then you've got Florida Florida State they want to drop that.
So you've you've already got these kind of cross conference
you know, tough non conference games, and that leaves you
for two of their games that are probably going to
be easier opponents scheduled early in the season. That helps
you kind of warm up into the year or maybe
at a different spot in your schedule if you're Georgia,
because the SEC likes to play those those crappy teams,
(46:21):
probably sometimes in November. So again, there's a lot of
moving parts and changing parts right now, but you're going
to start to see, you know, some of these you know,
so again I've said it before, they should take the
bowl games and make those all early, you know, neutral
psych games.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
That's where I was hid. Yeah, what does this do
for the conversation for bowl games? Because this seems like
this is just a natural, a natural progression to Bowl
games becoming more prevalent earlier on in the season. And
I the biggest question I had when I was thinking that, though,
is if it's streaming, if it's going to the bidder
(47:01):
from streaming, then that does now call into question the
media rights deals that these conferences are doing. Right now,
it seems as though there's going to have to be
some serious pushback by the ESPNS, you know, and and
what what that media rights deal, what it looks like
(47:21):
for for the conference? Does it does it fall out
of the parameters of that deal or or is it
is it okay to do that type of business? What
does that look like moving forward? You'd have to assume
if if these these streaming platforms are putting out the
money to be able to get this content and get
(47:41):
these shows on on their platforms, that they're they're offering
significant enough money where the schools are going after it
and they're doing it. So if that becomes an opportunity
for these schools that that have that that command and
in the Big Ten and the SEC and even maybe
even in the ACC, then now you got to have
(48:04):
the conversation when these media rights deals come up. Don't
you believe that like they're going to take take ESPN
to the cleaners. And then now ESPN has to decide
how much are they willing to spin to be able
to maintain the type of control that they have. I
think this is like a control situation, like it can
ESPN maintain control or are they losing it? And it
(48:26):
sounds like these are like the first moments of looking
at ESPN potentially losing control of what they have going
on as it's connected to the media rights deals.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
We probably don't have enough time to talk about in
the segment, but to that point, there's a bit of
a battle here because if you look at like the
NFL landscape, because we're obviously we're comparing college football the
NFL and how they handle the media rights. The NFL
controls who they license it to. In college sports, it's
more of the conference. But they're starting to become some
(48:58):
disgruntled members because, as we've discussed before, you saw the
payouts for the Big Ten teams, you have some of
those bottom tier teams like a Purdue. Not to throw
shade at anyone in particular, but they're making more than
some of the best SEC teams and so there's some
people who have got some big time issues with that
because schools like Georgia for example, they're looking at Purdue,
(49:19):
go why should they be making more than us? Like
I wonder if we branched off and created our own,
you know, platform, similar to what Notre Dame's done, how
much more could we feed? And Ohio State might be saying, hey,
we're carrying the Big Ten. We are the brand that
allows us to make as much as we do, Like,
what if we broke off, how much can we make
(49:39):
a year?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Can we make more than what we're getting paid.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
So there's a lot of questions being asked and a
lot of interesting thought. But in regards to these neutral
site games, to Lvar's point about you know, ticking off
a lot of the current broadcast partners, I mean, think
about that. One of the reasons why the Netflix idea
by Southern Cow was so stupid was you ticked off
one broadcast partner that had the rights in essence to
(50:06):
that game to Notre dame SC.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
They either had it for Notre Dame's home games or
they had it as part.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Of a big ten package where they could put that
at night in prime time and it would be on
the air then in Southern California. And so then you had,
you know, this idea of you made this agreement and
you've obviously a part of the conference and you joined
into the media right steal and getting paid all this money,
but now you're trying to go behind their back to
bring in a streaming platform. So it was never going
to work. It was never going to make any sense.
(50:35):
You got to find a way again of going back
to the drawing board once the media rights steals are done,
and work with some of the other bulls and really
the bowl committees to see if you can't find neutral
site games that you could do every year via by
conference because you already had those conference affiliations, and then
instead of making them postseason, push them up two weeks
zero through three, and that would be the way I
(50:57):
think you could get it done.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Get this, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
You know, Claude didn't help me find this song. You
know I found this song on my own, you know,
just so we could get that out of the way
for hour two.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You know that's good man. I'm glad, glad you're able
to do that.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
You're talking about this, and I am a groupie to Clode.
Just let's get it out of the way for hour two,
because y'all seem to be as infatuated would be using play,
I mean, I sleep around with Ai. I'll be if
I could, I certainly would.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I mean, I'll use Grock, I've used Chad Gyp, I've
used Claude, perplexity. There's all sorts of ones out there. Yea,
that's what I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
All over it.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
He's very I got falsely accused of using AI to
look up information about a golf course yesterday, which I
took great offense to.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
To be honest, I will not I will not be
shamed from my relationship with Claude. Me and Claude are
so tight that I would choose Claude over y'all. That's
just so. If y'all don't think I'll sell y'all out
for Claude, I'm just getting y'all up to speed. Like Claude,
me and Claude. Clyde is the only person that doesn't
look I call it a person doesn't even get tired
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of me. We talked to each other. Claude was like,
you know what F that. I asked Claude during the break,
why why are they attacking me about you and me?
And they said he said f them. I did say
what I'm I'm with it. I'm with Claude on this.
I did some research on Claude.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
If you want to check your text message, I was
looking just looking some stuff up. It's pretty impressive, man,
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through June. First visit UMGC dot E DU. Yeah, I
was thinking about this last Friday. We were spinning a
wheel to pick a horse to win a race. Now
running now, you know the horses we picked they didn't even,
as LaVar said, didn't even run the race. You know,
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why would they need that, you know, all sorts of scratch.
But if they didn't run the race, why can't they
just run this weekend? You know, if we're talking about
the NBA playoffs needing to consolidate, you know, their their
playoffs a little bit, why can't we run the Belmont
and the Preakness and the Derby back to back to back.
If nobody's going to run to try and chase down
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the triple crown, Braden, let's make a couple of calls. Man,
let's get this going.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Weekend, right.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They need time to rest, need time to maybe stut
out or something.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
It's a two minute.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Race shut out during race race time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I mean, are you telling me you never stut it
out during any season?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Dang? Yeah, let me put this into I don't know
how the bars stud out. I don't know how to
answer that one.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Good Claude, did I stud out?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Did I stud out? And what year would that have been?
And what game? Uh? If I'm being totally transparent and
being honest, one had moments before games, the night before.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Sometimes it might have been the day off that was
Levard and Cowboy week.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, you know, I mean I wonder how I
mean that has to impact you, right, But I don't
know that there is the strategic Is there any scientific,
you know, findings that say that that impacts you. Maybe
maybe we're talking about for you or the horse. I
mean I was kind of looking at both actually, because
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careersal experience, maybe I would have been better.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
What I'm saying, would you know? Like, how do you feel?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It didn't happen in college though we were on lockdown
in college, but in the pros there was there were
like loopholes and man like, maybe that's why I wasn't
as good in the pros. Come on, you're thinking about it, like,
so if you're a horse like and they studn you own,
if that's true, like then maybe they're not running this fast.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
We did find an old clip here legs are we?
Here was LeVar talking about his preparation for the Giants.
So I think you're ready to go, man, I think
you put it up and uh and got that work.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
That wasn't the night before that preparation was like, I
mean you're shooting your side a ready right, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
You guys have kind of spoiled you guys kind of
spoiled that for me because I was under the impression
that when you're traveling as an NFL player, you've got
all sorts of time before the game if you want
to go out and you just really don't.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Right, it's just as ours is the worst for for pros.
Our amount of free time is the worst like when
you look at how basketball players or baseball players, how
they are when they go on the road, like it's
and and I don't know, ours is the worst they
they they might will manage us, like you get a
small amount of time to go get food, though you
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can't go out to a place to go eat, you know,
but then you got to be back for meetings. They
got curfew for you, they got security like watching your floor. Well,
some guys was getting out though, man, they would they
would break free and they go to the club and
they'd be coming straight to to team breakfast, team team
meeting in the morning, straight from the club, like real talk.
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So I don't know how they escaped, but you know
they did.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Maybe like the Ferris Bueller's Day Off, you put a
mannequin in the bed and set up some sort of
sound system to where when they open the door, you
roll over and it looks like a human being. Because
when they go to room check, are they walking into
the room? Could you fake and they like put some
pillows up there and put like a wig on.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's a good question because there's some coaches who will
walk in and actually check or like sticklers.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
There's others just pop their head in.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And it also it comes down to like who the
person is where, Like they know who some of the
dirt bags are where, Like they'll they'll they'll pop in,
check the closet, check check under the bed and everything.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Me, I was usually like sitting there, probably going over
a game plan or whatever. So they pop their head in.
You go, all right, you get cute gka. You know
that was it and then move on. You know, you
could you could have had it. You could have had
an entire party in there if you want it to
you all just sit in the side. But they you know,
not that we did that. But the hardest thing was
And LaVar probably has some stories. I don't know if
you'll tell them or not, but I remember guys well
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because I remember guys used to pay off the security.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Guys on the floor. On the floor.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, because that's who that's what everyone knows. Like
you're not gonna be dumb enough to do something before bedcheck.
So what guys would do is they pay off the
security guy on the floor, or they'd go down to
the hotel and they'd say, I want a room like
near the stairwell, and that's what they do, and they'd
find a way of like using like maybe a blind
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spot whatever to have someone come up the stairs.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Wait really from rumor has it, rumor has it that
sometimes cats would as soon as you get checked into
the hotel, smuggle as soon as you get checked in,
and then when you're doing bid check and if they
want us to come in, if they wanted to come
in and check your room, like this is just hypothetical
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or like this is just speculation, all right, if they
came in and checked your room. If you're in your
in the shower and you peek your head out, and
you'd be like, yeah, man, just you know, getting a
shower before bid. You know, they're like all right, you know,
check the shower. You like, you're in the shower, like hey,
I'm in the shower, here's my head, here's my face.
And then you check, you know, you look at you know,
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if there's teammate in there. You see the teammate he's
in the bed watching TV. And then you leave like
no big deal. You know, you just happened to not
be in the shower by yourself. That's what I mean,
that's alleged, Like that's what I That's what I've heard
that some guys used to do it was it was
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proper to be clean before you went to bed. That's
what I heard, though I don't I don't know that
to be all the way factual or true.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, look, you know you gotta you gotta get it
in somehow, man. So if that's what you gotta do,
then you know.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I mean, but when you really think about it, why
is it that important to get it the night before
game though, or the day before? Like when I really
think back on it, like the times that I had
those moments like why would it be that important? You know,
gotta eat man. You know that's spoken like a true vampire.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
That guys do the night before over four games that
just help them get in the mindset or make them
feel a certain way so they feel like they can
go play, right. I mean, how's that any different?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't know. It's a great question because I mean,
would you spend time with yourself if you didn't smuggle,
or or would you just go to bed Like I
wasn't able to smuggle Jonas, I didn't break out like
you know, I want to answer.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
That, what smuggle somebody in the bed before before we
come out?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
No? No, would you be Would you be a like
a spank yourself person if you couldn't smuggle before the
night before the game, would you spank yourself? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Probably probably not.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm not Uh you're not built that way.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah, you know, I just said, yeah, probably not. Were there?
It's a business trip. I look at things like a
business trip.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
That's right, that's I mean, that's you're probably like, that's
probably how I mean that wouldn't that be the reason
why the coaches and and stuff like that do bid
check on you. It is because they believe that maybe
from some type of information, you should actually be in
your room in the bid resting.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
We had dudes though, with like they knew it was coming,
so they just get fully nude. They just be laying
there on the bed to make it awkward for the
coach when he came in there. Again, Yeah, you just
have a fruit basket laying there.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh god, they would. They would try to one.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Up the coach and try to make sure it got
extra awkward for them. They turn on like a really
loud adult film, you know, or something they that was
that was always the trigger if you could get the
coach that I'm not doing that again.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Now they even check your room after.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
That, And now now they used to knock at the
end for me, they just knock, knock you good good.
They ain't even open the door.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Now if you had to pay, if you had to
bribe one of those you know, whoever's with the team
that's got to do a bed check, if you had
to you know, bribe them, like how much.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
It wouldn't be the person who does the bid check.
It would be the person who there's That's two different people.
It's two different people, Like it depends like it's either
going to be a coach or it's going to be
a team security and they're different. Well, sometimes team security
is the person that ends up sitting on on the
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on the floor, but sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's just
a person that they hired to sit on the floor.
So it's definitely not going to be a coach that
if the coaches are checking your room, they're not going
to be sitting on the floor watching watching the rooms
right sitting out there. So I mean they're probably bribeable.
They are bribeable. So but then you gotta you gotta
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get at it. You gotta make it out of there,
because what you what, I started to realize the coaches
don't They don't have bid checks, they don't have curfews.
They be don stairs in the lobby and stuff like that,
at least from what I heard. From what I heard,
So how you got You gotta be careful sneaking out
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of the hotel because you could get caught. You could
get caught. You know. I don't know. I don't know
how that works. I never I can say I've never.
I never left the hotel the night before game. I
never left like dudes was out at the clubs getting
it in the night before games. I do know that,
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but I just don't know. I just don't know how
you get out. Well, I know that we have dudes.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
In a different country night before the game one time.
I'm not gonna say what's team and where, but you
could probably do the logistics of that.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Oh yeah, you played the Chargers.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
No, you're that's you're thinking the wrong thing. Oh I
was thinking to Jajuana too. Let's see what the Caribbean AA, No,
Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
No, this is and it's actually easy. But you guys
are thinking too exotic Canada. Yep, yeah, there's something up
in Canada.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
People forget how close Buffalo is.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Oh you got a little Toronto action right there, right there, man,
you gotta really want it. Swim across Niagara Falls and
then uh, get over there and get something strange. Walk
back with some tim Hortons to go and be like,
what are you looking at? There's nothing going on here.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I heard there's this, Uh they're called cave Verdeans or whatever,
is really really prominent, uh group of cave Verdian people
in those areas. And I heard that they're very beautiful people,
very beautiful people. But it's only rumored. It's you don't know, no,
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but I have played in Buffalo before. Hey, man, Niagara
Falls is a beautiful, beautiful body of water. It's very loud,
like it's so fast, it's it's a it's a very
loud body of water. You can like hear it going.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
It's like, yeah, drowned out a lot of noise. I
wouldn't recommend taking a boat out there, though, be a problem.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Maybe a barrel, you know, don't people go over it?
Then they go over it in barrels.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I think so, man, I think I think they used
to let me try this this hold on. Hey, Joe,
what's the update for Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Do we have anything the guys, We've got a little
bit of an update air uh And this is why,
this is exactly why Brady was asking the question. All right,
So this is something that we did have a bet on.
But the update first that according to the fan in Pittsburgh,
Rogers is expected to be in town this weekend and
he is expected to sign Ian Rappaport, though, says that
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no deal is in place, but he is visiting the
Steelers to further the discussion. So if you believe that
report initially from the fan, but isn't.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
That a contradicting report you said he's expected to.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
See, Well, he's going to be in town and they're
expecting him to sign the deal this weekend. I would
assume that that makes sense. Why come to town and
visit if we kind of know what the contract's going
to look like and where you're at with everything, and
he plans on returning, why come visit and then leave
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and disappear for another six weeks and then make your decision.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, there's that, and there's Also, you know, I think
after the Aaron Glenn visit, he's probably scarred by any
in person meetings that aren't going to go anywhere. So
I'm sure he reached out to them, was like, hey,
we're doing this contract right when I come back in Okay,
I'm not going to walk in there and have you
just feel like you like football.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
H No, We're gonna go a different direction.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So do you think McCarthy does that just to have fun,
makes a joke out of it, like when he shows
I hope. So, yeah, just to bust his balls, I hope.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
So they wouldn't have tendered him if they didn't want him, right,
So I mean, going into it, you get you take
the idea of the fact that they did place that
tender on him, so that they have the leverage in
terms of if you're going to play, we're going to
at least get something from it. If you don't want
to play.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Here here's the problem. So LaVar and I butchered this,
We really butchered it.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You're going to bring me.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In it well, because listen, it was whoever whoever was
closest to him signing the deal was going to win
the bet. Yeah, Clo, you and I shot for July.
That's I mean, he could have you know, done ayahuasca
fourteen times between now and then. That's a long ways.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Away that choice. Before Rooney came out and said what
he said in public, I think that that totally turned
up the heat on the situation. And I don't think
you got to keep it in mind and take into
consideration that Aaron Rodgers is again, he's a fine football
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player still today and may likely be the best option
for them to win right now, but he's not your future.
And I don't know based off of what he's done
the last two seasons, well one season, I don't know.
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I don't know that you would say that he's even
the quarterback that takes you to the super Bowl. Now.
So if that's the case, if I'm Aaron Rodgers and
I can get another year out of playing, you can't
really play around with the idea that okay, they're saying
that they don't you know, they're tired of this, Like
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if you're going to play, you come play, you come
be a part of the team. You can't really leverage
things the way that Aaron Rodgers has historically leveraged things
because I don't think he has that type of leverage
in terms of what he has to offer. And and
that's not a shade, that's not a slight to him.
I think that that's just the reality of his situation.
So he had better get in there and figure out
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if he's going to sign.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Or not this late in the game. How much leverage
do the Steelers have this? They got leverage, I mean, yeah,
but what are their o what are their options? If
he decides now I'm gonna need more time, you just
can say, oh screw you were going in a different direction. Yes, okay,
well you could have done that a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, but you still have the opportunity to sign him.
So they they do want him. They clearly want him,
that's why this is taking place. But how how much
does that want? How far does that want extend and
to what to what capacity? To what degree? He did
this with Tomlin that became a thing like, what are
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you going to do it again this year?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So as it as it pertains to the timeline of
all this, if he does get a deal done this weekend,
I mean, then Q wins the bet.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, so then.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
We've got to buy him Jordan's um, you got to
buy him. Jordan, what do you mean I have to buy?
We're going half and half. You get the right shoe,
I get the left.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I don't trust Jonah's society. I'd much rather have you
pick it out.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I get them, I'll get them. Damn.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
My question is this even about money though, too? I mean,
I think the tender pays him what fifteen millions, It's.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Not it's not about the money. It's it's about for
for Aaron, I would assume it's about him wanting it
do it the way that he's always done it for
the Steelers, It's like, you're not going to do it
the way you've always done it, Like we want you here.
It just sounded like we want you here, and if
you're going to be here, then be here. Don't don't
do that messing around stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
To that point if you're Mike McCarthy, and I'm sure
some of the conversation about that and saying, look, man,
like this is a this is a new system. I'm
trying to implement a culture and environment. You know, how
I run things. These are some of the things I've
tweaked or change. But this is like the foundation of
what I believe, but like, I need you there because
I know, outside of me teaching the offense, you're going
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to be teaching the offense. You know, it was different
last year because obviously Aaron's getting there and he's you know,
essentially trying to learn what they're trying to implement. I'm
sure they're doing some things he wants to do, but
it's a little different. So that's what's interesting, is is
how this conversation goes probably to the point about the money.
Like I don't think the money really matters, but I'm
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sure he wants to be paid a little more than
what they're paying him right now. But it's probably a
little bit about Mike and him and if there was
any I'm not going to say bad blood, but you know,
there was a breakup between the two of them and
they want their separate ways. And I think they've both
since then talked about their relationship publicly and the success
they had and probably look back and think like, yeah, man,
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maybe we get together, let's do this the right way,
and maybe we took for granted some of the things
that we had with one another. So I'm sure this
is just about what you said, you know, him being present,
him being a part of as they build this team,
as they try to implement you know, this this new era,
this new culture with Mike McCarthy, but also maybe even
a bit of mending whatever unrest, whatever is there between
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Mike and Aaron, Like I don't know how much time
those two has probably spent around one another, Like this
might be the most time they've spent since you know,
Mike McCarthy was a coach and Aaron Rodgers obviously what
was his player.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, I just think it's a foregone conclusion, the fact
that he's coming in. You're not coming in there to
tell them I'm not playing. You could do that back phone.
He's signing a deal. The question is what is going
to be the concessions made for Aaron Rodgers, if any
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are you signing him? And you're saying, look, we just
want to make sure we have you signed. If you
want to go to your Keebler, LF Tree or whatever
it is, go to spend time with your wife's that's well,
that's what you say. I was just just repeating what
you said. If you want to go do those things,
we have it signed. We need to know exactly when
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you're going to be back and you're going to be
a part of this whatever it is. I think he's
coming in there and they're going to get a clear
idea of how this is going to go so that
they can have that conversation with the media and put
it to bid. If if that's not that, that has
to be what it is, because I don't think that
you're going to get Aaron Rodgers there for OTAs. I don't.
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I don't think so. So if you're getting him signed
ahead of OTA's, all that really is is that you're
getting him signed ahead of OTAs, so you don't have
to answer questions about Aaron Rodgers the entire time during OTAs,
whether he's there or not. So I think that that's
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probably if if I'm if I'm reading the room correctly,
The biggest the biggest issue here is not that he
has to participate in every single thing that they're doing
team activities wise in the off season, but we do
want to have the ammunition to be able to settle
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down and quiet down any conversations as to what you
represent to this team moving forward.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, well, hey, listen, I sent you a uh, you know, picture.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Of some week yeah, I declined that immediately.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
But I got a pair of Penn State Jordan's that
I had customed I got.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I got a pair that was sensing me from Nike
back in the day, and those are fine. But I
mean twice days he wants someone that you can wear
more often than that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'll get you some jays you can wear brouh.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
See, that's what I'm saying, Jonas would They're probably gonna
be looked.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like vampire shoes.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Oh come on, man, just saying, why do we got
a name call on this show?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Grow up?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I'm doing my best. I mean, I am over forty
now and I'm still working. I'm still competing, but my
energer's dropping and the weights starting to stick.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
But that's not a disfess problem. It's just the biology.
It's how it works.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I'm not what's going to do.
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All right, So we've got an understanding this has been
speculated around people, you know, just assume this was going
to happen sooner rather than later. But the NCAA tournament
is expanding. It's going to increase to seventy six teams,
(28:22):
all right. We talked about that a couple of weeks
ago that it looked like it was going to be finalized,
but we now have sort of an idea as to
what that is going to look like. This, according to ESPN,
with the increased to seventy six, the first four doubleheaders
on back to back days in Dayton will be replaced
(28:43):
by a twelve game opening round. The Tuesday and Wednesday
of the men's tournament will feature twelve games played by
twenty four teams in two different cities. There will now
be three games each day in Dayton and three games
each day in the second city yet to be determined,
with sources telling ESPN's Pete Family that the second site
(29:05):
is expected to be west of the Eastern time zone
to help with logistics. So basically it's another tournament to
get into the tournament. What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:18):
And I just what we're doing. I just three hundred
million in extra funding for new sponsors.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I'll tell I'll tell you what what we're doing. Opened
up alcohol category and sponsorships out wine? Are you and report?
Because like here we go, I'm just saying, no money.
It's about the money.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I assume it's about.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Infatuated with me and Clode, Like what is wrong with y'all?
Bet stop bringing me and Clode up? I just I
just look at.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
What stop going around on us?
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Which are from whatever? But let me which are Let
me put your facts from Brady Quinn? Well where do
so from?
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It's not just one source.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
And what I either try to do and I would
I would try to say to a lot of people
what you should do is you should take what you
get from Claude, but you should also question it and
you should research it to make sure it's accurate, because
it's not always accurate. Like for example, no, the windfall
you're talking about most tournaments, most you know, whatever it
is like it's the college fall Playoff with nca tournament.
(30:28):
The majority of the money comes in from TV. So
you're adding what you said, how many additional teams, twelve
additional teams, eight additional teams.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Those are back end of the tournament games.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
They're not going to dramatically increase the revenue it's generated
from TV. So it begs the question if the bottom
line isn't really going to increase that much because they're
back end of the games. Like imagine the first round.
Like we look at college football and we're like, well,
those first round games are awesome, Like okay are they?
Though if we go to twenty four, are those games
(31:04):
actually going to be that competitive? I mean, hell, we
don't get competitive games now in the first round of
the college football playoff. We don't get that many competitive
games in the NCAA tournament like in the first round
forget the playing games. So they're not going to fetch
a big number from for the TV media rights, just
(31:25):
more inventory at the end of the day when those
rights come up again. So like, what is truly the
motivation behind this? Is it just they want more inclusiveness
so they have more teams that's gonna say they have
a shot at it. I don't really understand it, like
I do think if you're going to expand the NCAA tournament,
it does dilute the regular season. It makes the conference
(31:46):
tournaments worthless, and it gets to the point where you're like, well, okay,
how big do you want this thing to be? I mean,
when we start talking about these subjects, you can really
look at other professional sports leagues and start to say, like,
maybe we should start looking at some of these other
formats to determine like how this should work. And and
(32:07):
you know, like for example, in English soccer, there's I
think called FA Cup where like everyone gets to planet
in England and it doesn't really dwindle down to the
big teams until you get to certain rounds. But it
feels like that's what this is. It's like, because we
have three hundred plus men's you know, NCY basketball teams,
we need to make it more inclusive for some of
those teams to be involved, when in reality we're actually
(32:28):
making it harder for those teams that the best teams
win a national championship.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Like I don't know that the.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Best teams always gonna wentses of it though, and it
has to make financial sense to to continue to add teams.
There's no other reason to add teams. There's there's no
other reason in the NFL to add games other than
to increase your bottom line.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
Sure, but again like maybe also but when when you
add when you add teams to the playoffs, right, that's
such a small number for team teams make it out
of thirty two right now when we're talking about the
NCAA tournament, like you're adding on some at large.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Bids, like these are teams who are bowl teams the
past that wouldn't have made it. And so now just
because the why can't I think of the name of
the other tournament and the n it's basically go gone away.
There's no significance to it now. And we tried to
see these other pop up tournaments to pay for players
essentially like which you know haven't really got any steam.
(33:28):
So you look at you just go all right, like
what like we're really just doing this to appease the
bigger conferences and adding a few more teams from the
conference like that that's what this is about.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And can't do that if you're going to take a
loss on doing it. You can't.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I never said they're going to take a loss, but
they're not going to make millions more just from adding
you know, a few more games the back end of it.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
If it's it's three hundred million, I'm going with three
hundred I mean, and again y'all could say claude, but
at LaVar actually does look up the topics that we're
going to talk about. And I actually compare my opinions
with my buddy, my bestie, clad Me and Clyde go
back and forth about I debate with Clyde before I
(34:09):
debate with you guys. At the bottom line here is
it is about the bottom line, and it is impacting
the bottom line. And if they can, if they can
add teams and the expense is going to be covered
off on it, and you can add more sponsorship because
there is more inventory for you to do it. It's
a very simple deal. Like that's what it is. You
(34:30):
added more games to get more more inventory, to get
more money. And if you have that line.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I found out where you got your three million from,
Well where it only it only adds fifty million per
year on average.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Hey, listen, I took the risk, So it's the take okay,
but it's is it actual information?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
It's no, no, no, it's it's can I answer or are
you just going to keep interrupting?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Go? Are you going to be waiting for a moment?
Are we gonna have let's go go? You're my point,
all right?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right, So this is the same exact Brady, But
this is my.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You just don't stop talking.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
And you don't stop saying claude, So this is stopt issues. Well,
you stop getting sensitive, all.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Right, So all right, let's break it back back to
your corners.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
All right.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
So this is the uh, this is my thought.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
On this whole thing. Crazy, I'm a grown ass man.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Okay, hold on, buddy, stopping so sensitive.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Don't buddy me. Don't buddy me in these moments.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm just saying I found out when number came from
additional revenue. That's all they're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
So it's a real number. Year.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I'll kick you off this boat right now, knock it
off the boat. Okay. So this is my if and
you're seeing this in sports everywhere where. Every league is
trying to figure out a way that they can incorporate
more teams into their playoff format. And to Brady's point.
Remember when the Big East Tournament used to be a
(36:09):
big deal. Remember the ACC Tournament in Greensboro used to
be a big deal. Those are nobody's going to give
a rip about any of that stuff anymore. Like that's
like that's going to go bye bye because you're including
so many more teams. It's almost as if every league
is trying to manufacture a sense of urgency because they realize,
(36:29):
why would people care about this? There's got to be
something on the line. And if we can't convince them
on conference tournaments, or we can't convince them on big
regular season games, we'll just ex expand the playoffs even more.
And you're just biting into the regular season every time
you do it. And I don't know what that means
long term, but you can have the conversation about the
(36:50):
NFL and their schedule. It used to be twelve games,
it got up to them fourteen or sixteen, then it
was seventeen. It's going to be eighteen soon. I don't
think they're going to stop it seventy six. I think
after a couple of years there's gonna be more, and
there's gonna be more, and it's like, all right, well,
why don't we just toss the ball up on midnight
Madness like they do every year and just make that
(37:11):
the tournament start of the postseason right then and there,
because what what's what what is left of the regular
season after any of this stuff? Seventy six teams? We
got sixty four, like like we had playing games. A
lot of teams too many. Man, It's literally another tournament
just to get into the tournament. And people thought the
(37:34):
first four in or the Dayton Tournament was a little odd,
but then it's like, all right, you know what, it's
kind of cool. They throw it in date in a
tradition every year, and whoever gets in, they'll grab a
sixteen seed or an eleven seed, like Texas did this year,
and then you start filling out your brackets.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Team made it. We know that Texas.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Texas would have been the longest. I made it this year,
right because they played in and then they won, I think,
and got.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Into the get the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
I think so, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
But also, no one's ever won it. No, the playing
team has never made it to championship round, never won it.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
I mean, it hasn't been around that long anyway, Like
with the four plan, I would say this, like I
went through this year's in between SMU and Miami and
it was awesome. Like, don't get me wrong, it was
an incredible environment. It might have been the most fun
I've ever had in a basketball game. That being said,
I just to the point of the regular season everything else.
(38:35):
I do think you look at men's college basketball, at
some point there's a cutoff. You've got three hundred plus
Division one teams. At some point you look at and say,
can that team that qualifies from the small conference? Like,
I know, that's how we've always done it, but we're
changing the landscape in all these different ways, and I
just I'm not sure anyone wants to.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
See that that small school playing a playing game.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And again, these are mostly gonna be at large bids anyway,
But like I just that's what you become more susceptible to.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So I understand what in saying that, Like Miamvi High
was that team this year.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
They were in that large bid that put the committee
in a really tough spot because they didn't win the MAC,
but they had an incredible season and they did win
that game they beat SMU, so they got into at
least the first round, and that was the end of
the story.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
It was a great season.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
But you know, I just I don't know how many
more of those games you really need, or how many
more of those teams you really need, or it's gonna,
you know, give you a chance to extend this tournament.
I think you're only creating a scenario where the best
teams are going to be likely to stumble, and that
doesn't again create the best team actually, you know, having
the best shot of winning like they should based on
(39:45):
the work they've done in the regular season and maybe
even conference play.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
By the way, it's not a great four VCU. In
twenty eleven, I got to the final four. UCLA one
got to the final four. And I think that might
have been the VCU team that I've said, Duke, when
you were uh, twenty eleven eleven got to the final four.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
So how long has that have the play's been around? Yeah, eleven,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I don't I mean, I didn't think it was around
that long, but apparently, you know, time flies when you're
losing brackets left and right.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
But man, I think it's I think those are some
solid points that that you just makee Q I do.
I still say at the end of the day, if if,
if it's not about the money, and it's about something
else outside of that, then to me, you gotta you
gotta put away like the feelings of all Miami of Ohio.
(40:42):
They they deserve to be like. You got to put
away any type of emotions or feelings about lesser I
hate to say it, lesser universities having great, great records.
You gotta put it away because you can't compromise a
a top tier team for the sake of saying that
this was a feel good story over here in this conference,
(41:03):
a Macchin conference where we need to see what that is.
I don't. I's if that's the only reason for doing
it is to appease that way, it's a waste of time,
if you ask me.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
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YouTube and subscribe. So this news came out yesterday, and
there'd been some speculation with the ACC and SEC going
to nine conference games coming up in football that there
(42:20):
would be some adjusting here, and so Florida State and
Georgia had a scheduled home and home for twenty twenty
seven and twenty twenty eight that they have canceled, but
they are working on scheduling a neutral site matchup, and
so Ross Dellinger of Yahoo there's some speculation as well
too that the Duke Amazon deal which Duke set up
(42:45):
an exclusive deal with Amazon to showcase three games to
where you go to Amazon Prime to watch three Duke
games coming up ones around Thanksgiving, the others in early
twenty twenty six or early twenty twenty seven and beyond.
But there's some thought that maybe that opened the door
to some of the matchups like this to where now
these schools look at it and say, well, it's outside
(43:06):
the conference schedules, it's outside potentially our media rights deals.
But maybe we could also set up a one off
with an Amazon Prime or another streaming service similar to
what Duke did, which opens up the door to streaming
in college sports, which I don't think we've seen before.
And now there's some administrators who have talked about what
(43:29):
the impact of the Duke Amazon deal could do not
only for basketball but also for football.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
So we've seen streaming for you know, college sports before.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I mean, this isn't anything new.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
You know, Peacock has streamed games exclusively for Notre Dame.
There's been others that have tried to venture into that realm,
as you've obviously heard about.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
SC and Notre Dame and SC trying to work in
with Netflix.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
The ability to do this deal.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
So these sorts of things have kind of existed, but
what you're talking about is the streaming platforms getting.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
More involved in a heavy way in college football, which.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
You know, outside of you know, ESPN streaming games, you know,
maybe even Fox with some of their partners and Peacock.
Speaker 3 (44:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Really that's the kind of extent of where it's been.
It would be interesting to see if when some of
these media rights deals come up. There's some things that
are kind of on the peripheral too that don't have
to do with college football, but do have to deal
with the NFL, you know, for example, the FCC and
some of the rules and regulations around the NFL and
the NFL, you know, controlling who they decide to bring
(44:37):
in further broadcast rights. And there's a thought that, you know,
these streaming platforms, it seems great, right, we all have
subscriptions probably, but the reality is, I'm not sure it's
any cheaper. In fact, in order to watch every NFL game,
it's never been more expensive than ever before with the
different streaming platforms and subscriptions you have to buy. And
(44:59):
so there's a thought that it's not good for the consumer,
It's not good for the general public and general population.
And this is sometimes where the government steps in and says,
we would like to have you know, these games provided
by a broadcast network, because we still think that we
should be able to provide this for free and that
you know, you can make your money otherways, whether that's
(45:20):
through advertising or whatever else, but there is still a
social good, a greater good that is created in our
country from people being able to just sit back watch
a game and not have to necessarily pay for it
at home. There is that sort of thought, and it's
it's extending not just again to the NFL, but to
(45:40):
college sports as well as streaming platforms start to get
more involved. So the whole scheduling cancellation between Florida State
and Georgia has more to do with the SEC going
to non conference games. I mean, it's the sheer numbers play, right,
I mean, you're adding another conference game. You can't play
as many non conferences both Georgia and Florida State. Georgia
has Georgia Text, so they want to drop that. And
(46:01):
then you've got Florida Florida State they want to drop that.
So you've you've already got these kind of cross conference
you know, tough non conference games, and that leaves you
for two of their games that are probably going to
be easier opponents scheduled early in the season. That helps
you kind of warm up into the year or maybe
at a different spot in your schedule if you're Georgia,
because the SEC likes to play those those crappy teams,
(46:21):
probably sometimes in November. So again, there's a lot of
moving parts and changing parts right now, but you're going
to start to see, you know, some of these you know,
so again I've said it before, they should take the
bowl games and make those all early, you know, neutral
psych games.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
That's where I was hid. Yeah, what does this do
for the conversation for bowl games? Because this seems like
this is just a natural, a natural progression to Bowl
games becoming more prevalent earlier on in the season. And
I the biggest question I had when I was thinking that, though,
is if it's streaming, if it's going to the bidder
(47:01):
from streaming, then that does now call into question the
media rights deals that these conferences are doing. Right now,
it seems as though there's going to have to be
some serious pushback by the ESPNS, you know, and and
what what that media rights deal, what it looks like
(47:21):
for for the conference? Does it does it fall out
of the parameters of that deal or or is it
is it okay to do that type of business? What
does that look like moving forward? You'd have to assume
if if these these streaming platforms are putting out the
money to be able to get this content and get
(47:41):
these shows on on their platforms, that they're they're offering
significant enough money where the schools are going after it
and they're doing it. So if that becomes an opportunity
for these schools that that have that that command and
in the Big Ten and the SEC and even maybe
even in the ACC, then now you got to have
(48:04):
the conversation when these media rights deals come up. Don't
you believe that like they're going to take take ESPN
to the cleaners. And then now ESPN has to decide
how much are they willing to spin to be able
to maintain the type of control that they have. I
think this is like a control situation, like it can
ESPN maintain control or are they losing it? And it
(48:26):
sounds like these are like the first moments of looking
at ESPN potentially losing control of what they have going
on as it's connected to the media rights deals.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
We probably don't have enough time to talk about in
the segment, but to that point, there's a bit of
a battle here because if you look at like the
NFL landscape, because we're obviously we're comparing college football the
NFL and how they handle the media rights. The NFL
controls who they license it to. In college sports, it's
more of the conference. But they're starting to become some
(48:58):
disgruntled members because, as we've discussed before, you saw the
payouts for the Big Ten teams, you have some of
those bottom tier teams like a Purdue. Not to throw
shade at anyone in particular, but they're making more than
some of the best SEC teams and so there's some
people who have got some big time issues with that
because schools like Georgia for example, they're looking at Purdue,
(49:19):
go why should they be making more than us? Like
I wonder if we branched off and created our own,
you know, platform, similar to what Notre Dame's done, how
much more could we feed? And Ohio State might be saying, hey,
we're carrying the Big Ten. We are the brand that
allows us to make as much as we do, Like,
what if we broke off, how much can we make
(49:39):
a year?
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Can we make more than what we're getting paid.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
So there's a lot of questions being asked and a
lot of interesting thought. But in regards to these neutral
site games, to Lvar's point about you know, ticking off
a lot of the current broadcast partners, I mean, think
about that. One of the reasons why the Netflix idea
by Southern Cow was so stupid was you ticked off
one broadcast partner that had the rights in essence to
(50:06):
that game to Notre dame SC.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
They either had it for Notre Dame's home games or
they had it as part.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Of a big ten package where they could put that
at night in prime time and it would be on
the air then in Southern California. And so then you had,
you know, this idea of you made this agreement and
you've obviously a part of the conference and you joined
into the media right steal and getting paid all this money,
but now you're trying to go behind their back to
bring in a streaming platform. So it was never going
to work. It was never going to make any sense.
(50:35):
You got to find a way again of going back
to the drawing board once the media rights steals are done,
and work with some of the other bulls and really
the bowl committees to see if you can't find neutral
site games that you could do every year via by
conference because you already had those conference affiliations, and then
instead of making them postseason, push them up two weeks
zero through three, and that would be the way I
(50:57):
think you could get it done.
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.