The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss the potential of the Notre Dame & USC Rivalry returning in the next few years. Plus, the guys ponder the White House proposal to help change some of the financial aspects of College Football, chat with Pete Prisco, and much more!!

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get past? It was the third time they're gonna bring
this and they're going to try and get it passed.
Nick Saban was brought in to try and help come
up with solutions on how to fix college sports and
what this could look like. And I think May eighteenth
is a day they're going to present this to the
House to try and see if this can get passed again.

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And so there were some details that came out yesterday
about some of the elements inside this proposal to fix
college sports. And the following is from Dan Ferman, who
broke this down on X yesterday. So there will be
a new College Sports Reform Task Force, which would replace

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the NCAAA with real authority. There's an anti trust exemption
for the task force, the legal protection everyone has been
asking for, salary caps for coaches and administrators, the most
direct federal intervention into athletics spending ever proposed. There's a
crackdown on cap circumvention, pooled media rights across conferences, a

(03:08):
group of six playoff, separate postseason from mid majors, and
rewritten eligibility and transfer rules. The portal gets its first
real federal framework. So that is sort of the idea
behind this. That is what they've come up with, and
they'll present it on May teenth to try and get
this passed and we'll see what happens from there.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
So it's a really interesting time in the world of
sports because in one instance, you've got the Score Act,
if you're kind of touching on here, and the proposal
that President Trump as well as Congress is trying to
take on in regards.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
To college sports, and then you find.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yourself with the NFL and some of the broadcast networks
and the battle that they're in right now in regards
to the nineteen sixty one Sports Broadcasting Act, and they're
almost like completely different in sense of that nineteen sixty
one Act allowed professional sports leagues to you know, pull

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together their assets, which were the teams to then you know,
broadly have their media rights, and in college football we
don't have that. Now they're trying to get to that.
I just don't know if that is like the best
suited way of moving forward with this approach. And the
reason why I say that is, you know, there's in

(04:33):
this proposal seventy five plus schools would opt in for this, Like,
are there seventy five schools that ultimately are that competitive
and it makes sense to share those resources with even
though it could generate more money. You're going to see
what has been at least in recent years for the

(04:54):
Big Ten or the SEC where they've pulled away from
the rest of the conferences. You'll see other teams take
hit and they're not gonna be able to generate quite
as much when you're starting to pull it with a
bigger pool of teams. I also don't know how I
feel about the coaches having a cap on their earnings.
If I am a coach, and I want to make

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as much as I possibly can, which I think we're
all naive to think that. As much as there's goodwill
in coaching and wanting to invest into young people, there's
also an element of I want to be paid too,
and if I want to make if I want to
be the best, I want to make the most. I'm
not gonna be able to make a lot of money
at the college football level if it's capped. So maybe
some people are okay with that. I'm not saying that,

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I'm not even okay with it. I'm just saying I
think there's gonna be some people who said, give me
the NFL level where it's not capped, where I don't
have to deal with that, where I can make more money.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I mean, one of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Why Ohio State has Matt Patricia is he's not capped
as what he's making as a defensive coordinator, and so
he's able to make a boatload of money. Now, some
people could would argue that this is going to create
an unlevel playing field because some schools have more money
to pay their coaching staff. But the truth is it's

(06:07):
like this in other ways too, Even in the NFL
where we think there's a lot of parody if you
have an owner who has a lot of cash he
can pay and create a roster that's designed with a
lot of signing bonuses that are pro rated over avoidable
years that just get extended past the actual life of
that player on the.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Team, and we've seen that at times.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And by the way, if you're a player and you
have the opportunity to go to a bigger market, are
you not going to make more money off the field
in those marketing deals. So there's all sorts of different
incentives or attractions to even at the pro level, those things,
and it's almost like we're trying to like overcorrect with
some of these proposals in the way we're governing this now.

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There are some good things to take away from him,
like I would love to see a group of six
playoffs and again no disrespect to James Madison or Tulane
who are part of the playoff last year, but we
saw the end result and I think a lot of
people would agree there's just it's different in football. There's
not gonna be that Cinderella team that finds its way

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to win. And you might argue and say Hey, Indiana,
was that Cinderella team? I don't know. They played in
the Big Ten. They had a lot of money, you
had Mark Cuban helping them. You know, go get Fernando Mendoza, Like,
I wouldn't call that a Cinderella team. With the money
that was thrown around, it's drastically different than when you
look at the payroll of what James Madison was making
or Tulane's making. And just because you you know, provide

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them some greater resources, it doesn't mean that they're all
of a sudden going to be able to compete for
a national championship. If you put them in a group
of six playoff, no doubt, you know you're gonna get
those teams able to kind of maybe pave their way
through or at least have a much more fun playoff.
And by the way, that'd be awesome to see, you know,
two different levels of that sort of playoff. So there's
some good to some of this. My concern is there's

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there's really not anything that discusses education, you know, which
is I keep going back to this. We are like
in this world where we're experimenting with young people and
saying it's all about money. It's all about sports. It's
all about we're trying to kind of create these rules
because we're worried about this. There's not really an educational component.
And with the exception of this player retention incentive where

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it allows schools to offer financial rewards to athletes who
stay multiple consecutive years, and that's just in an effort
to slow the transfer portal process or chaos. So I
just I look at this and I'm like, what is
happening to the educational component?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Do we just not care anymore? Is that where we're
at with all this?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
No one cares enough about their higher education and what
may happen to them down the road, and we just
only care about the money.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I think the business of it, the business of it
says no, they don't care about the educational component of it.
I think internally that that's still a part of it,
because if you're not doing well academically, you won't it's
another reason for.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
You to be cut.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Now that cutting is a real thing, like you will
be sent away, you will be told to go into
the transfer portal, and you're not going to be able
to get through the portal because you're not going to
have the grades to go somewhere else. So you're going
to end up on your couch at home, community college,
or or somewhere where your grades are suitable to the

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institution that you're enrolling in, and most likely your opportunity
to play major college football is dwindling away very quickly.
That's what the trend is right now. So No, on
a larger level, on a larger scale, no, the educational
component of it is not being taken into consideration. It's

(09:54):
not something that's being put in the proposals that are
being voted on. But with that being said, these are
things that are being put out there to be voted on.
This isn't a law, This hasn't been passed, This isn't
you know, this hasn't happened. It still has to be
voted on and agreed upon. I think, both by by

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government and by the NCAA. I believe Q. You could
correct me if I'm wrong, But I do think that
you're going to see these these major schools, these power
force schools, they're going to fight this, and and I
would assume that they're going to fight it just based

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upon the competitive ad you're able to get when you
have a spoil of riches and resources to be able
to invest into your programs. And and that's what you're
going to you know, that's what you see now. I
mean you see the top coaches they're going to be
at a place like at Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
You saw what just happened.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
We just talked about Lane Kiffin in the last segment
Lane Kiff, and all he did was reinvent himself, go
turn a power for school into a competitive power for school,
and a whole entire state pulls out the stops for
him to come coach their school. If you put these

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limitations on those schools, you can't do that. And in fact,
you'd have to assume that it works in favor of
mid major mid major schools.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Is that right? Am I saying that right? Mid majors? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
So's it's like you guys love the match and stuff
like that, Like hell yeah, I mean I would assume
this now would give them an opportunity to have a
pathway to success, because in some regards, it takes away
the ability to say power. There's a reason why you

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call them the power conferences. And so I don't know
how much that would cripple that that terminology if if
this bill is passed, we're.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Only five months away from getting geared up for a
Bowling Green game on a Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
I enjoyed playing against Bowling Green, and I'm a big
fan of Bowling Green. I might go visit them on
campus and hang out at Bowling Green for a week
or so.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Really yeah, okay, yeah, Bowling Green. Yeah, I got you
hell of a head coach man.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
That's right, one and only any George Man. So long
story short here we voiced concerns about it. It it
is an effort to move the ball, you know, down
the field, to try to get to a better spot
in college sports, where I do think we're all looking
at the transfer portal as something.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's that's been a bit abused. We do.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I do think there's some other things that are including
in this that are going to become necessary, and that
is making sir, you sure.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
You have these agents to be certified.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oftentimes we have people who are representing young people who
are tying them into deals in perpetuity that are bad
for their future, or they don't really know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And there's some bad actors and it'd be nice to have.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Some sort of certification process either by state or even
you know, through whatever's created in this to allow these
people representing these kids to have someone who's educated on
this topic and not just again some guy who's you know,
looking to make some money off of them at a
very young age where they're naive, or even the family

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for that matter. So that's that's one thing too that
really hasn't been discussed or talked about, but it's probably necessary.
And again that could get sorted out if there was
a collective bargaining agreement, but we're not really that close
to it because again this is still just proposed policy
and it will probably be challenged in court.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I mean, look, if I was a coach.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
And I was one of the thirteen other coaches right
now that are making you know, however, many of them
are making over ten million bucks, I might challenge this
and say, like, we're gonna put the cap at because
I've got this contract and if it goes over, you know,
if I win a national championship and I win all
these games, here are my bonuses. Here's my total conversation.
You're gonna cap what I can make now, Like, why
should you get.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
To say that?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So there will be challenges to a lot of this,
I would say, honestly, you know, outside of the five
years to play five, which apparently everyone's pushing four again,
which goes to show you why none of this is
about education, because it used to be you would have
four years to graduate in four right.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That was why the eligibility rules were what they were.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And if you got hurt, if you had an issue,
you know, there was that additional year to red shirt
if there was a developmental portion of it. You know,
part of that red shirting was a safety issue. You
were deemed that, hey you could red shirt, have that
additional year.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
But at some schools you don't. Just you're not just
awarded that fifth year.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
You might be eligible, but the school had to invite
you back, like they have to say, hey, we want you.
Because once you graduate, you've done exactly what you signed
up for. The university has provided you what you signed
up for. You know, now all that stuff's kind of
got out the window. So yeah, that that looks like
it's going to stick though, And then you look at
the group of six playoffs, I find that highly entertaining.

(15:18):
I would love to see what that would look like. Fun, man,
it'd be awesome. It'd be awesome, and it obviously it'd
be more competitive than you know, what we've seen from
at least the lesser teams that have made it into
the college football playoffs.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
And you a showcase as well too, not a not
a dismantling against a power for and on a big stage.
That'd be fun. I'd be into that.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I would like it. Again.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I know there's gonna be some people who are who
don't really care, you know, don't.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Want to watch it, but I think it'd be a
ton of fun.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Let me on the educational component, what would be the
solution if you wanted to make education great again? How
about that?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You see, well, again, I prioritize it. I don't know
that everyone else feels this way. So one of the
things that I loved about the rule. One of the
things I loved about the rule initially was when you
got a free transfer once you graduated, because what that
did is it forced young people to say, Okay, I
need to take this seriously and as much as I

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can stay up at school, taking summer school classes and
as many credits as possible.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like players wanted to get their degree.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Asap because as soon as they got it, then they
could transfer as much as they wanted. So some kids
between what they came in with from high school and
then once they got there, because they just stayed there
the whole time taking classes, they were able to get
their degree in some cases in three years, maybe like
two and a half years because they came in with
almost a year of credits. So I look at that

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and say, like, that to me, is a better way
of doing it, because then once you get them to
a degree, like Okay, you're good, You've got your degree,
you probably got it from one institution because you can't
really transfer in that amount of time and have all
those credits sync up, as LeVar talked about. So I
like that, like, if we really want to be serious
about education, we care about young people and how they
develop and then what their long term life looks like

(17:10):
once sports is done and they have something to hang
their hat on, that to be made the most sense.
But unfortunately, again that's got out the window. So I
don't think we're coming back to that age type.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So I mean, I don't I don't blame because I
sometimes I'll put myself in their shoes and be like,
all right, if I was eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old
and all of a sudden I had that type of money. Yeah,
I'd probably let some things slip, you know, I probably would,
and I would look at it and go, I don't
know if I'm ever going to get the opportunity to

(17:41):
make this money again, So that would be my priority.
And it just does feel like that's sort of where.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I think that's a tremendously large misconception, but that.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
I think that's a reality.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Though I think it's not a reality because at that age,
at that age, you have to take into reality that
won your grades have to be good enough for you
to qualify to play in the first place, to get
the scholarship to go there in the first place. Two,
I'm pretty certain it's made abundantly clear behind closed doors
by these coaches that if you don't get your grades,

(18:17):
you're not going to be on the team. So if
you're not on the team, you can't earn that money. So,
while it's not a public conversation in terms of which
it should be a larger public conversation, behind closed doors,
these coaches still have to maintain that standard of educational
accomplishment for their guys. Just one stay eligible to play

(18:41):
and for two whatever. It is the standard that they're
creating as a coaching staff. If the grades go down,
and or the grades are already down, it still has
to be grades that are acceptable for them to qualify
and be eligible to play. So it's not like I'm
not going to class at all. Yeah, it's it's not.

(19:03):
That's overstated. I'm not I'm not going to Yes, you're
not going to be a two point eight three point zero,
you know, three point.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Five deansless student.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
That should be what you're pushing guys to want to
be is be academic all Americans, just like you want
to be an athletic all American. But to say that
grades are going to go away all together, that to
to that to where we are right now, that's not
that's not accurate, and that's not accurate for to say

(19:34):
that a player is thinking, I want to be able
to make more money and I'm focused in on making
more money than I am even getting my grades.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
By the way, the the eligibility minimum for division like
two to oh, it's two point three two three two three,
which essentially comes out to like a C plus average.
So you're taking five courses you'd have give or takes
a C plus.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
And that's to me, that's all always been the conversation
is are you just going to be what what makes it?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Are you just going to be the guy that makes it?
Or is there a standard of you wanting to be
an academic? You know you are a student athlete. I
think student athlete is in jeopardy. Yes, you're right, But
to say at that age, like my son gets better

(20:27):
grades now and he was good in college, I mean
in high school and he graduated early.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
And my daughter but all of.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Them, but they all of them got all My kids
are pretty brain anyway, he gets better grades now and
and and people that go to college should get better
grades because you have more resources in a lot of
situations to be able to do better. It's just the
matter of are you going to put the effort in?

(20:57):
Are you going to put the time in? And I
think that that's where it comes back to your conversational point.
If I'm making money, I'm replacing things that I would
be doing that's going to lead to me making money,
versus I'm making a lot of money, so I can
go do this, I can go do that because I
have the resources to be able to spend and I

(21:19):
would venture to say, yes, they are thinking about how
are they going to make more money? But if your
grades aren't where they're supposed to be, you can find
yourself in the doghouse with the coaching staff. Now that's
not something that gets discussed a lot, but that is
a part of it.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
You do have to get grades.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, it's a part of it now, and again I
don't know how much of it is a part of
it in the future, which is a little concerning I think.
More than anything else, I just I don't want there
to be this gap of time where we look back
and we say, hey, there was a lot of decision
makers who are in the room and they didn't care
enough to look out for the well being of a

(21:57):
lot of these kids because of money. And I do
get the concept that a lot of people go to
college to figure out what they want to do in
life to make money. And so if you're already making
that as an athlete, then you know, what's the point. Well,
the point is is it's a very short lived lifespan.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I mean I was on a car ride back when
I was talking about club soccer, for example, with my daughters,
and they're probably too young to hear this, but this
is just my perspective. You know, when you look across
those soccer fields and you see all these kids and
all these parents, the truth of the matter is less

(22:32):
than one percent even have a chance of ever playing
pro that are on those fields. And so I'm trying
to like paint it to visualize for my kids so
they understand the type of work they got to put
in if they want to achieve that. Because I'm like,
if for every one hundred kids there are, I was like,
maybe one, maybe one one day we'll be able to
get to play that in pro. And I said, and
maybe three we'll get to play D one. I said,

(22:55):
So if you want to be one of those that
want or those three, I go, you got to work
your tailoffs. So anytime someone walks by that field, they
look and they say, oh, that girl's unbelievable, like that
like that's the one, Like that's the girl who's special,
because I said, otherwise, you get caught in the mix,
you know, you get kind of lost in the shuffle.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
And that's just the truth of it.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And so I look at a proposal, you know, like
this and I just I feel like there's so much
more to life after sport.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Sport teaches you so much.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
But at the same time, you know, we can't just
make it about the short term for these kids in
college because.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
They are making good money. You know it's not going
to last them. It's not.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So we've got to prepare them for the future and
for whatever that next thing would be.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
And there's and none of this doesn't really talk about.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
That education really creates that that level of accomplishment, It
creates a level of prestige. It's very real. Being educated
is very it's a very real thing. And if you're
not educated, you find out, you find out give it

(24:02):
a little bit of time. Once you're done playing the game,
and you find out that your relevance subsides very quickly,
you start to like for me, I'd say, and I
know we're up against it, but I just say, it
is a false sense of self worth to think that
your worth is purely rooted in the idea that you

(24:26):
can throw a ball, you can catch a ball, you
can make a tackle, you can run routes, you can
pass rush. It's a very, very false sense of identity
of who you are. Education is something that allows for
you to be able to navigate this world in a

(24:47):
way where you can go in the rooms and you
can have the confidence and you can have the understanding
of how it is you're supposed to handle yourself in
those moments. That's what the education is about. And I
think that that's something again within our conversation, it's very
important to understand that me being able to body slam

(25:08):
somebody on the football field is not going to necessarily
translate into the rooms that I go into.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Now, so tell me about it. I left a kneecap
on the ground in Illinois, you know in a basketball game.
You have to learn that lesson. Yeah, Yeah, that's right.

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historic rivalry between Notre Dame and USC was played, you know,
every single year for like two hundred years, one of
the great rivalries in all of college football sports, and
then all of a sudden it just kind of vanished,
and everyone and said, well, you know, twenty thirty, maybe
we'll revisit it. But a lot of conversation back and forth. Well,
apparently Ryan Karcy of the LA Times reports that negotiations

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to continue the rivalry are back on between the schools. Quote,
it's not clear yet when the rivalry series will return
or what the terms will be. A person familiar with
the discussions not authorized to talk about them publicly, told
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playing the game earlier in the season, which had previously
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that the two schools still won't meet again on a
football field until the twenty thirty season, but at least
they're back at the bargaining table, and a person familiar
with the discussions told The Times that they were optimistic
a deal could be reached. So there we go, some
positive momentum in the.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Direct Yeah, finally back all the donors and alums that
were displeased with sc.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And their approach to all this.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
They finally got to the athletic director and started to
kind of push this forward a little bit more.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
So.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
That's good. That's good.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
That's the god's honest truth. Again, this was a unilateral decision.
People can try to throw it on Notre Dame all
they want, but they did pretty much all they could
to try to make it work, with the exception of
SC trying to throw a hail Mary and making what
wouldn't have been possible trying to make it possible for

(29:23):
this season. So the earliest we can hope for is
twenty thirty. And it feels, I don't know, a bit
odd that now we get all this momentum for a
twenty four team playoff, that SC would think it's okay
to reschedule that matchup.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Now I wonder why that would be. Oh, there we go, okay,
all right.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
So it seems like the dots are being connected now
that since this game can't be played until probably around
twenty thirty, and most likely the playoff will expand in
twenty four teams by then, that it would only be
appropriate the rivalry comes back. And then again, it's okay
if Lincoln Riley can drop a few more games in
Notre Dame. So that's how this all came about. There

(30:08):
was a lot of pressure from people who just could
not understand it. Honestly, we get a round of applause
for the one then the only Petros Papadekas, who is
an SC alum. He was one of the first people
who called this chicken crap by SC in the first place,
as well as Keishawn Johnson, many other alums who felt the.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Same way, and again, just to reiterate.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
SC's timeline was Hey, we're gonna win championships in the
Pac twelve until we're not.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
We're gonna move everything to the Big ten. And then
once we moved to the Big.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Ten, we realized that, oh no, we can't really handle
all of this, So why don't we drop the Notre
Dame game because we already made a mistake by moving
to the Big ten. So we're just gonna keep doing
that because we're getting paid so much from the Big ten.
That's all this all came about. Like, that's the reality
of where we're at. It's that simple.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Well, I'm glad it's coming back. If it is coming back,
it does make sense to say that twenty thirty because
that is quite a ways away. But obviously redoing a
scheduling contract with BYU, Yeah, I mean, somebody was avoiding
the smoke in and well, by the amount of success

(31:20):
we've been watching Notre Dame have, I don't see why
anyone would would look at Notre Dame and think that
they were ducking the game.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
I don't find that to be feasible.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Is there any chance it can come back before twenty thirty?
Like any I don't.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Believe so, No, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And just so people understand, again, Notre Dame. Because they're independent,
they still get five games a year from the ACC
which are are obviously out of their control in regards
to like who those opponents are. But it's not like
they're ducking folks. They brought back Michigan, they brought back Texas.
I believe they've got a home at home with them
coming up here in two years. You know, Clemson obviously

(32:02):
is who are going to play through that. There's some
other SEC opponents. I mean, it's some of these schedules
have done ten years out in advance. So for you
to sit there and say, like, for example, Michigan State,
where Michigan State is now, where were they at ten
years ago? Like where were they at in twenty sixteen?
I bet they were more competitive in the Big ten.

(32:22):
Like that's just my suspicion, but I bet if you
looked it up, they were probably more competitive about ten
years ago. When you're an independent, you have to schedule
out that far because there's a lot of moving and
change that could happen, so you have to do your
best to keep as many of those those games schedule
as you can because you end up being a non
conference opponent or some of them. Like one of the
things you're saying changes, and we talked about this earlier,

(32:45):
the SEC has has teams dropping one of their non
conference games because they're playing nine conference games this year,
so some of those non con games.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
They had scheduled they're going away.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And that's a little bit of the difficulty as an
independent program is that now you've got five at least,
but you're still trying to figure out those other seven
within your schedule and how they can work for the
other people because they've got to play a conference schedule,
so it's tougher to mix a match and that's why
they do it so.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Far out in advance.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
The part that bothers me about it is there's just
some and I get the whole look, Adapter Die. Things changed,
we evolve in everything. Totally understand it's a different college
football than it was, you know, back when we were
all watching or we were growing up. Totally get that understood.
But there are some traditions that should be protected. There

(33:34):
are certain things with every sport that should be protected.
This should have been one of them. The fact that
you're going to have entire recruiting classes that will never
know this rivalry who played for both schools is kind
of wild, Like it's kind of crazy to think about,
because if it is twenty thirty, anybody starting their journey

(33:56):
at either school between now and then just won't get
to part it and won't get to experience it. And
that sucks because that's something that you're known by, that's
something that's that's become a big growing up out here
in southern California. It's a big deal. Like that was
a big deal for years and years and years. You
would hear it was you know, the U C l

(34:17):
A rivalry was kind of there, but it was really USC,
Like UCLA USC did not have the same gravity that
Notre Dame USC did. Then there's just gonna be a
whole bunch of people who will just never know what
that world is like.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Playing well and even looking from it from the other
side of it, you know, for the standpoint of SC
guys who were like, okay with this happening, I can
never relate to that only because it's it's how some
of those guys build up their legacy.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I mean, whether it's.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Liner or Reggie Bush or Carson Palmer who had a
great game ended up winning a Heisman off that, you know,
you'd think that they would want that for other players
at SC two. By taking that away, it makes it
again one of those rivalries that you say, all right,
like this, this used to be that st April in
the season we all looked forward to and when you

(35:03):
had a guy, for example, this year, CJ. Carr, you know,
up for the highs like this would be one of
his moments. If Jordan Maaba has a big year, this
would be one of those moments, one of those games
you talk about. So that's the thing I can never understand,
either from the SC side, for guys who had played
there and made their legacy off it, but then didn't
want to act like SC was backing out of this
or that they weren't at fault for this and that

(35:25):
it's okay, Like they know it's not okay. And this
game has made it through world wars like you can't
make it through the changing landscape in college football. Might
I add that you were a part of you made
that decision to go to another conference.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
It's ah, I think it's pretty self explanatory. It is
very competitive in the Big Ten. They did can't get
a deal. I mean, they're making more money by being
in the Big Ten, their historical brand, blue blood football team,
but it does. I mean, the information that that is

(36:04):
connected to the story is one hundred to me more
skewed towards damning in the direction of USC than it
is Notre Dame. And regardless of who is the blame here,
I think college football and college sports and sports as

(36:25):
a whole loses in these types of moments. You know,
I feel like Pitt Pitt and Penn State should always
be a game, that should always be a game. Certain
games just should always be a game, you know, and
USC USC and Notre Dame should always be a game.

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Ohio State and Michigan that should always be a game.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Now, the Big Ten, the way they're scheduling and all
those things, there's actually I would assume, don't I don't
know this for fact. I would assume that there's the
possibilities that there actually could be a season where the
rotation could potentially not have Michigan play Ohio State during
the course of the year, unless they were to meet

(37:11):
in the championship round, unless there's a contract that says
there's absolutely no way that can happen. I mean, the
way you rotate rotate through the teams within the conference,
that could actually end up potentially happening. I would assume
maybe not. But regardless, there are certain games that should

(37:33):
always take place, that should always be able to be
put on the calendar, and.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
This is one of them. So I hope they do
figure out out.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Well, it's just the tradition, and it helped build the sport,
whatever the sport is now, those traditions helped get it here.
And so just because things have changed and there's a
playoff and there's all these other elements that have been
added into it, you don't just forget where you came from.
You don't just dismiss that to no. No, no, we
want an easier path to get here. We're trying to

(38:02):
finagle our way around this or that. That's that's the
part of it that I that that bothers me the most.
I don't want to live in a world where these
rivalry games just aren't a part of what we discuss
every week man, Rivalry weekend is a fun weekend. I mean,
I can't say it right, I struggle with that every time,
but Rivalry weekend is a fun weekend. I don't know

(38:25):
what it is on our weekends. Man, it's a real
pain in the ass for me.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
It just shows you that the bottom line again means
more than anything else.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
But that's certain, But it can't like there's certain things
that need to be protected. They just they just need
to be for it. In my mind, I don't want
to say the health of the sport, but just the
reputation of the sport to where we go. Yeah, this
is really the foundation of all this, and it feels like,
you know, there's there's more and more of this that

(38:54):
that comes out that's not so Hey, hopefully we'll get
it back. Can't wait to hear what Petro says about
it tomorrow. He's going to he's gonna.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Lie, he'll he'll dive into.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
What other people have said is there's been a lot
of pressure on the side for some of the big
money donors who you know, hate what I mean again,
think about it. A lot of the people who are
propping up the collectives at these programs are people who
live through those eras of either success or maybe not
as much at SC, but either way, they took pride
in knowing that they were gonna if they were gonna

(39:23):
go on one road game trip a year, it was
probably to South bed I mean, like, if you can
go talk to some of the restaurants in South Bend,
they will say that every single year, you know, when
they get the when they've got the host SC, you know,
usually that was the time when like they got cleared
out from all the wine, Like all the wine drinkers
from California would come out and they knew they had

(39:45):
to stock up because that was the game they would
try to come out to Notre Dame Stadium for and
for that venue to get a taste to fall before
they go back to southern California.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Like it was just like that kind of stop for them.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
So I think there's enough people who are frustrated with,
you know how the university taking away probably what was,
you know, one of their more fun trips or favorite trips.
It's part of the tradition series everything else, and they
had enough because ultimately, you can only bend so much.
And I feel like sc has been doing a lot

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(41:48):
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CBS and he's kind enough to join us here again
in this morning. Pete, how are you?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah? What's up?

Speaker 8 (42:05):
You good?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:06):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Pete?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
What's uh? What the hell is Aaron Rodgers waiting for
to sile with Pittsburgh.

Speaker 8 (42:12):
I don't know, I mean, come on, the whole theatics
of it get out of control. I mean, give me
a break. Like I said, I told you guys last week,
he's gonna play. I don't understand the whole process of
going there and not seeing them and not signing his contract.
I don't. I don't get it. Just just come on,
you're gonna play football. Just sign the contract and get
out there and start playing.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Do you think it's there's any thing about money or
because one of the reports that was you know, they've
talked to his agent, but they haven't really talked to him.
So is this a money thing? Is he trying to
get more cash out of them? Well, what do you like?
Have you have you heard anything talking to anybody?

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Is this?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Is that an element that's not being brought up here?

Speaker 8 (42:56):
I had not heard that. And to be honest with you, look,
there's only so much to get to give him on
a one year deal, and how much money is the
guy made. Either you play or you don't. Look, let's
just say he wants five million more, meet in the
middle and sign the contract. That's basically what you need
to do. And look, is he going to play? They

(43:17):
think he's going to play. It sounds like he's going
to play. Just sign it and go play. I mean
every year, and I've been one that's been actually a
little bit in his corner saying, Okay, he has a
right to make a decision on whether you're going to
play or not that much. You can take your time
deciding that it's a big decision. But once you make
that decision, and it sounds like he has and I

(43:38):
thought he had all along, go in there and sign
the contract and get to work.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Can you talk to me about your Bowl claims and
proclamations for the Dallas Cowboys?

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Please?

Speaker 4 (43:49):
What is leading you down the lane of thinking that
this is not only a team that's going to win
this year, but you think they're going to win it all.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
That's your prediction.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
Well, here's why. First of all, I think the Eagles
are going I don't think they're gonna win at all.
I think they have a chance to win it all.
The Eagles are going in the wrong direction. I believe
that you mushed the Commanders when you went on the
sideline for a game.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
So they're done.

Speaker 8 (44:17):
You did Penn State last year. You did the command.

Speaker 5 (44:24):
Damn, it's not funny laughing at my misery.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I'm not laughing for the record, LeVar.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
I'm not laugh appreciated.

Speaker 8 (44:30):
I'm laughing at my own joke. I'm laughing at my
own joke. It's so funny.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Well, but I was the punchline of your your joke.
But that's fine, Pierre.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
You're you're very hard.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
You're being very mean to me right now. Man good.

Speaker 8 (44:43):
And then I think I think the Giants are a
year or so away. So I think what the Cowboys
have done in the offseason has been really revamped their defense,
which once you revamp the defense, which they've done a
good job of doing that, I think they're going to
be really good and I think they're going to score points.
We know that they're gonna be good on the offensive
side of the ball, and I think defensively, they're going

(45:03):
to change the way they play on that side of
the ball and they're going to be much more talented
on that side of the ball. And that's the biggest difference.
So I think the Cowboys are ready to push for
I think they win the division and I think they
push for a lot more.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Oh wow, is there any now or never to connect
it to this? Like I feel like as far as
where they're at with Dak Prescott at this point in
his career. I mean, do you feel like this is
a now or never time with this with Dak Prescott
as the quarterback of this team.

Speaker 8 (45:34):
Well, I think there's an urgency to it. Yeah, and
not just not just to get there, like you're pointing out,
but to win in the postseason. I mean that they
haven't had success with him in the postseason, and that's
something you're concerned about. So if they do, let's just
say they won the division, played really well during the season.
There's a lot of pressure on Dak Prescott and that

(45:55):
offense and that team to win in the postseason. Yes,
And is there an urgency to it? You bet. And
in fact, some people have already started speculating that maybe
it's time they start trying to look for his replacement.
And so, yeah, I think there is an urgency to it,
and I think this is the year they respond to
it now. Fairness to him, there's been a ton of injuries,
he's had some the lines had plenty. When he's been healthy,

(46:17):
he's been on the fields, he's got up big numbers,
has been very productive. But it's all about what you
do in the postseason when you're a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Hey, Pete, this is one of my favorite times a
year because you oftentimes get a lot of those videos
that are coming out of rookie mini camps and they're like,
you know, someone's raving about him. You get to see
some of their ability and everything else. I mean, tell me,
you're on the same page with me.

Speaker 8 (46:38):
Here, you saw my tweet from yesterday.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I don't know what you're talking about. Yes you did,
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (46:46):
Everybody raving it. I call him the Boys of Summer.
That's what I call him. Every year it's the same.
These rookies show up, they start playing, you know, taking
part in rookie mini camps. There's no veterans there, there's
no pads there. There's about maybe ten of them are
going to be on the team at the most. And

(47:07):
then you look at it and you go, oh my gosh,
this guy looks great. Look at this video. Look at
them catching passes against air. And it's the same thing
over and over again. And look, there's been many a
time you can go back in your history of the
Bark and go back in his where a guy showed
up at early no pad mini camp and you go,
oh my gosh, this guy might have something right, and

(47:28):
then you put the pads on and the veterans come
in and next thing you know, you go, oh, we
were wrong about him. And that's why you got to
kind of really be a little more wary of what
you're sending out there on these videos, because the reality
is they mean nothing.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
What is the off season by the way, Pete Prisco
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, what is the
off season storyline yearly that gets made a big deal
of that you scoff at and go, this is just
this is ridiculous, is it? That is it? You know,
players threatening to not show up and are holding out

(48:07):
for new contracts, which one people make a big deal
of that you look at every year and go, why
are we doing this?

Speaker 8 (48:13):
Still holdouts, holdouts? It's all you know, why what do
I always say? They all show up and they all
will and nobody holds out, so you can hold oh,
he's holding out. And it used to be way worse
without the slotting in the draft order and everything else.
But he's still you see these veterans all he's not
going to play. I mean, my gosh, how dare he
He's not going to play? Yes he is, He's not

(48:34):
going to sit out. He's going to find a way
to work out a contract situation, or he's going to
play for what he has because he's not leaving that
money on the table. And it just doesn't work when
you sit out. So that's the most overblown story. And
it's been that way for it used to be worse,
but it's you know, it's still that way. We get
closer to camp. Oh, I don't think he's going to

(48:55):
show up, and eventually, you know what, he's going to
show up when the ball kicks off for real, he'll
show up because he's gonna get paid.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
That's why, Pete, you only gave out one A A
plus four for the draft. But you said the dynasty
is over. It's done. So you're saying if a dynasty ends,
but a team could be better than what they were
when they built an original dynasty. You're saying that the

(49:21):
Kansassee Chiefs could potentially create and start another, a different dynasty.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
How did that work?

Speaker 8 (49:28):
Was I didn't say it was done. I didn't say
I said people said it was done. I never said
it was done.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Yeah, if they were to be better than what they
were before, is that still a singular dynasty? Or have
they started a new dynasty because of all of the changes,
they're so.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
Close to being a singular dynasty. If that happens again,
Let's just say they went out and they were pushing
forward again and maybe even wanted again, there's would still
be a Signalar Testee, I think, I mean, like, how
do we look at New England's dynasty? It was two different.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Two different errors, right, I mean, I guess I don't know.
I guess people see it differently. I was curious as
to what your take on it was because I never
looked at it. I never thought about it that way.
I just figured if it's the same, if it's the
same coach in the same quarterback, then I would be
more prone to say, maybe it's the same.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
You know, it's a dynasty.

Speaker 8 (50:18):
I would agree with you, LeVar, And I think that's why,
you know, a lot of people say New England had
two different dynasties in that grouping one one when they
were offensive team and one early in the thing when
they were a defensive team. But still it was Belichick
and Brady, and so I think it's it's to me,
it's the greatest dynasty we've ever seen, and the reason
I say that, Look, the Steelers had a great dynasty,

(50:40):
no question about it, but they kept them together.

Speaker 5 (50:42):
There was no yeah, there was no free agency, right.

Speaker 8 (50:46):
And that's why this is the greatest dynasty and maybe
in the history of sports, because of the way they
navigated through all the things they had to do. So,
you know, some people will say it's tainted. I don't
necessarily agree with that, but I will say it's the
greatest dynast the industry sport. Pete.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I've been lucky enough to have so many different conversations
with you about life.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Michael Pennix Junior just got married.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
What kind of marriage advice would you give to any
player who's decided to get married this summer?

Speaker 8 (51:14):
Wow, Brady, getting some serious deep talk in here. Laugh laugh, laugh, laugh,
don't don't ever, don't ever not start don't ever, let
you know, stop laughing, because if you stop laughing, I
think that's the end of it. Everything, whether it's I mean, seriously,
everybody takes everything so serious in life nowadays, across the board,

(51:37):
whether it's like you said, your marriage or your work
or whatever. And you know me, Brady, I'm gonna laugh
all the time. And I think it's.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Funny you think that that's how people would perceive you.
But I also think there's a there's a get off
my lawn, Pete Bristo persona that you portray.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So that's interesting I portray.

Speaker 8 (51:57):
I portray that. But you've been around me. I laugh
all the time, and I make people laugh all the time,
and so.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
You like having a good time.

Speaker 8 (52:04):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta laugh, you know that. I mean
if people don't have step back and laugh at things
and other people laugh at themselves, then I think I
think we have a problem. So I think that's that
to me is first and foremost. How long you been
married for, Pete twenty six years?

Speaker 4 (52:21):
Twenty six? You do know that they can turn that
laugh around on you, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (52:27):
Like, I'm just saying you, you.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Gotta give a little bit in your house.

Speaker 8 (52:31):
I bet that happens a lot.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
No, you gotta give you got to give a little
bit more context to the laugh part, because that can
be turned against you too, you know.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
No, not if you're both laughing the same thing at
each other. No, not at all. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
Okay, you're you're choosing, You're picking and choosing. See that's
the easy stuff, you got it, like choose asking you
about the hard stuff. Michael Pennick's going like like if
if he loses his starting job or something like that,
are they gonna laugh at that?

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Like how do they hand?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Like what what's the advice that he should take if
things don't pan out the way that he would like
at that quarterback's position? Because you know, I don't know.
I just watched Any Given Sunday on my flight the
other day and it just kind of reminded me that,
you know, wives like like the one on that that
movie they do exist cap Rooney and they and they

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they pop up once you say I do you know?

Speaker 5 (53:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
I just heard this before, but I heard they p
You know that that different approach to are you okay?
Is very different from when it's the girlfriend to when
you're the wife.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
You know, here's the other part of it. Don't sweat
the little stuff, you know what I mean? That's that's
the other thing. Don't sweat a little stuff. And I'm
not talking about it.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
What's to find his little stuff? Is that like leaving
twilet's see up or down like that sort of thing,
Like what are.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You talking about?

Speaker 8 (53:54):
I mean, that's that's ridiculous. I mean, that's the argument
over the toilet s head.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Give me a r I'm just asking, like people do
some people do.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Let's connect it to a bigger discussion of yourself or.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Like, hey, every time I walk in, you got to
get a new, you know, new roll of toilet paper.
It's like going be nice if someone replaced it and
knowing that the next person who uses it is going
to need it.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Right or plunge it, you know when it needs plunging.
Don't just leave and don't plunge it.

Speaker 8 (54:22):
If you go in there and the toilet papers not
in there, do you get mad about it? Or you
just go get it and put it in there? What
do you do?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah, well that's that's the hill that you're not willing
to die on. So you just go get new toilet paper.
The problem is Pete and Pete, and you know this
at your age. Sometimes Pete, sometimes you're rushing to get
in there and you don't have time to look and
then go back and get it. Like you might be
in there and you might have to text like, hey,
then we need some toilet paper.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
Oh believe me, I know all about Russia. To get
in there believe. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, Pete. But yeah,
here's the other thing about not just in marriage, but
in life period. Things that you think are really really
important at this point in your life. When you get
to be older, you look back and you go, why
the hell did I worry about that? And I go

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back to I work with Damian Harris, who you know,
was running back in the NFL play at Alabama, and
he was talking about when he fumbled once and how
he was down for three weeks and his head was down,
and Belichick came up, basically came over to him and
told him to get his head out of his ass.
And I said, Damien, if funneling of football is the
worst thing that happens in your life, you've had one

(55:32):
hell of a life when you look back on it,
when you're an old man sitting on your deathbed, I
can tell you that. So you don't sweat the little stuff,
just you know, deal with it, let it roll off
and move on. Because what you think is important when
you're twenty five, thirty five, forty five and fifty five
ain't important when you're sixty five and seventy five. And

(55:53):
I think that if you took that attitude, and I
believe me, I was as guilty as anybody of that.
You know, where am I going in my career? What
am I doing? What am I you know, what's what's
the what's so important to me? And then you get
back and people see it when you get older, and
I look, I can see it with my dad now
he's ninety years old. He looks back and he and
he says, look, I can go do whatever I want,

(56:14):
but I can't. So that's that's the message for the day.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Oh yeah, Pete, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
That's good stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Pete, well done, Pete well Pete Prisco with this yere
on Fox Sports Radio. Speaking of marriage. Let me ask
you about the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Oh wow, wow, yeah, what do you think they're No.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I'm just I mean, you know, I'm just wondering, all right.
And again, you know the schedules coming out this week
and all that we can do the you know, what's
a win once, what's a loss. But as many teams
have proven over the past several years, the Super Bowl
hangover is a real hangover, and the Patriots had a
very easy schedule last year. The Patriots got seem only

(57:00):
a lot of things to go their way. They get
to a Super Bowl, they get wiped out, and then,
I don't know if you've heard, their offseason has been
a little awkward for certain members of the organization, most
notably the coach. So I wonder, are you as down
on New England next year as you are high on
Dallas next year.

Speaker 8 (57:20):
Before all that stuff came out, the answer to that
question was still yes, because look, that's all aside distraction.
Let him deal with it. It's his family. The players,
you guys know, they'll make some guys around the team
will make jokes to each other about it, maybe even
to him, who knows. But the reality is, I don't

(57:41):
think they were as good as their record was a
year ago, and I think that's what was going to
show up they want. Like you said, they played a
relatively easy schedule, they won a lot of close games.
They weren't great in the playoffs, and I think that
that's something to be concerned about. So to answer your question,
I would say, yeah, I'm as bullish as I am
on the Cowboys, I'm not on the New England Patriots,

(58:03):
and I think they take a step back this year.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Geez, Sorry, I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
I'm just saying, but don't agree with me.

Speaker 8 (58:12):
You don't agree with I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
We'll see, we'll say.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I don't have It's okay, but no question, I don't
agree with you because I think the Dolphins are in
a rebuilding phase. I have no idea what to make
of the Jets, but that could turn into dumpster fire quick.
So again, the only competition you have in your own
division is going to be Buffalo, and then if you
come through kind of the rest of their schedule, it's like,
all right, Like I understand what you're saying. Maybe not

(58:39):
getting back to the super Bowl, but I still think
they'll be very competitive.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Like I still think.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
They're still win nine games. Maybe I think I don't think,
you know, I don't think they're gonna win more than that.
That's you know, they'll beat the Dolphins twice because they
are Dosa far. Maybe they split with the Jets.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
It's one of those deals too, where how they start
the season could matter a lot, because if they start
and get on a hot streak and and ever gonna
be like, well, they're not distracted by all the stuff,
none of that matters.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Then I think the momentum carries.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
If they get off to a slow start, then I
think the storyline keeps like drumming up over and over
and over again, and you do start getting some of that. Well,
maybe it is about that. Maybe there's you know, all
those questions.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
But if you look at it, you look at who
they play though, I mean at Detroit against Denver, against
the Packers at Jacksonville, at Chicago.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
But Denver's Denver's do for a regression to the mean,
like they can't win that many close homes.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
At Kansas City at the Chargers against the Vikings, against
the Steelers at Seattle. Good luck with navigating that schedule, Buddy.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
It's a tough schedule. But that's why we play the games.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Pete, Why do y'all say buddy when y'all like talk
down to other people?

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Buddy, it's a tough schedule.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
That's why you play the games.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
Brady was Betty Buddy. I mean the whole group of
Patriots is Buddy. I'm not a buddy guy, I believe you.
That's not me. That's like the guy at the bar
who calls the bartender pal, hey can I get you
a drink? He cheap, Can I get a drink?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I don't understand, like when when that became a negative,
you know, like if you say bud, like, is that
all of a sudden you'll call me bud pal guy.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
It's the context, the context of the tone.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Yes, at the tone that could be a context or tone.

Speaker 8 (01:00:19):
Yeah, it's yeah, I agree, LeVar. I think it's it's
it could be condescending.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Oh super, hey Bud, ridiculous, Hey.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Buddy, you know, like if you get it that way,
look buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
So as long as you smile and say hey, look buddy, like,
everything's good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
If it comes if it feels like it's coming from
a genuine place, it's good. And if it's coming from
the place like hey, look man like, well like you're
talking to Pete, you know, and we say, hey, buddy,
I was actually.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Gonna ask you about something completely separate name.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
Why wouldn't you just call me by my name? You
called me, you know, if you call me buddy. I
agree with you, LeVar. I think it's fun. Hey, budd, Hey,
budd Hey, pal beef chief. When you're calling for the bartender,
if you're in a crowded bar, Brady, what do you.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
Say to them, Hey bar, excuse me, ma'am or sir hmm.
I'm trucross the bar.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
And you're in a crowded bar. You put your hand up.
What do you say?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I don't say. I just try to get their attention.
You try to like wave out them or make eye contact.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
See I've actually said, hey chief.

Speaker 5 (01:01:32):
Oh no crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Yeah, but you're that type of guy that has their
back to the bar with their elbow on it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Right, you throw your hand up like, hey chief, that's
no good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
Another round, Another round, barkie.

Speaker 8 (01:01:48):
I like my space. I like my space. If I'm
not a bar, I don't like people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
What I wanted to ask you about was Fernanda Mendoza
and your I guess optimism or concern for them this year,
But what do you think is rookie year.

Speaker 8 (01:02:01):
Is going to look like, Well, they're gonna be They're
gonna be patient with him. You know that they're gonna
not play him right away, and I hate that they'll
play They'll play the other smiley face and let him
play and then uh and then when Mendoza is ready
to when they think he's ready to go, to put
him in. So I don't know if he plays until
week seven or something like that. But I put him

(01:02:22):
right in there and go find out what you got.
That's what I would do. And so but I think
Kirk Cousins is going to be the starting quarterback to
open the season, and then I think as the season
moves along, we look it over his shoulder the entire
first seven games, which is never a good thing. And
then they'll put Mendoze in, which the reality is, putman
Doze in and let him go play. Find out what
you have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So you don't you're not into the whole Kirk Cousins starting,
and then eventually you bring in Fernana Mendoza.

Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
Why what's the point? What's the point of it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:51):
Yeah, already sink so so what.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
So okay, so right that you're right, LeVar.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Ius, you're good. And see if you're like, okay, we
took him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
We think he's going to be a really good quarterback
for our future, you know, but we're gonna we're gonna
develop them. You stink like there's no reason all like, oh,
we got to preserve, like we may have a chance
to make it to the playoffs. We don't want to
like ruin our kid for he developed. We don't want
to lose games unnecessarily like that. Ain't the situation there?

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
How did twenty nine interceptions for twenty eight interceptions that
uh Peyton Manning through when he went three and thirteen
impact his career? No, because he was Peyton Manning. If
you get the right guy, it's not gonna matter. So
throw him in there. Find out what you got. If
you go through the season and he stinks, then you
go through next year and he stinks, then you know
what you're doing. You're spending year three thinking you're gonna

(01:03:44):
have to find yourself a day have quarterback. If he
doesn't play this year and then he plays next year
and he stinks, then you're gonna have to let him
play the next year to let him stink, and then
you go through your fortifind yourself a quarterback, So get
on with it. Find out what you got. Roll him
in there. There's nothing to be gained by playing Kirk Cousins. Nothing.
If they play Kirk Cousins the entire season, are the

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Raiders going to the postseason?

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
Probably not?

Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
No, definitely not not not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
There's always a chance, Pete, Now how low that chance is? Look, buddy,
look chief that that's that's another conversation. But there's always.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Bub bub gets people going. No one likes to be U. B.

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
Brady. By the way, you know what they would do
if you're playing he played the whole season. What are
the other teams gonna tell us start talking about every
week when they're getting ready to play the Raiders if
the Kirk Cousins is starting.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I'm not doing this. I'm a Kirk Cousins fan. He's
made a ton of money. Go ahead and say it,
Go ahead and say it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
They just don't tell him it's a big game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
It'll be a big man.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
Oh wow.

Speaker 8 (01:04:57):
And by the way, I love I think what Kirk
Cousins is done has been one of the greatest stories
in NFL history. For all the money he's made. I'm
with your Brady, kudos to him. He's the patron saint.
But you know reality, reality is it's such.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
A backheaded compliment. You're I just come on, he's gonna
make three undred million dollars in his career, Like you
just can't give him his flowers and let him have it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:21):
He's been at times he's been a really good quarterback.
But there's no denying there's been moments in the big game, not.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Respond to it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
My uncle has always told me nothing matters until the butt,
and that's what you really want to say.

Speaker 8 (01:05:36):
So but it's always the butt, you know that, Brady?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Come on, oh man, you can't just be happy for
that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
He's a good family guy who's still out there competing,
trying to play at a.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
High level, put his body on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
That you can't just respect him for all the money
he's made, all the success he's had.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
I no, I do. I respect him greatly for I
told you at times he's been a very good quarterback.
But in this situation, he would be the backup quarter
He'd be the best in this situation, would be the
backup quarterback for me. That's what he would be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Uh, Pete, you mean you handed out marriage advice, you
gave out life lessons, and then you made sure to
get in a couple of digs at Kirk Cousins at
the end. Job well done. Another incredible performance by the
great p Prisco. Let's do it again next week. You
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