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May 14, 2026 61 mins

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington discuss the potential 24 team bracket for College Football Playoffs. Plus, the guys make their PGA Championship picks, Albert Breer stops by, and much more!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
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(00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hey Q, let them know. Yeah, the Calves right now?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know, huh sounds like those Cleveland Cavaliers right now?

Speaker 4 (00:42):
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Sports Mediaway VARs drop on repeat. By the way, what
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Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't know. I think we got it from earlier
in the show.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, I should be cued up with
yours cavaliers. When the series, I will get a sex change.
Oh gosh, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
You almost whispered it like you didn't want to say it, but.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
Because because you know, I knew what I was doing,
what I was doing, I knew I shouldn't have said it.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I'm the mush I knew I was the mush. Well,
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(01:45):
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Speaker 6 (02:02):
Hello, you're gonna leave it at that, No background on
that at all.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Well, he didn't buy into the Calves winning the series
when they were down oh two, and now it's a
three to two series.

Speaker 7 (02:14):
No, No, did he did he make a promise that
that that he might be help to But it's the
other two people.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
In the room right here. Well, it really was a bit.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Ab It was a bit because obviously Jonas Knox is
a degenerate better and never never wins, so he doesn't want.

Speaker 8 (02:34):
To get it.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Would be LeVar like, we got to think of a name,
like right, Like that's true.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Lavarro doesn't bet. Yeah, Loveita sounds like one of my
in laws.

Speaker 9 (02:49):
What about this one, Lvarella Lovarella?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I like that, Yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Well, you know I'm not taking the bet literally, you know,
because that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hey, get to the one more game, baby.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
This is what game. This is what Jonas and Q
do to me.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Ab They start cutting me off, and they start double
teaming me, all messing with me.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Jonas told man, I.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
Don't know, man, it sounds like there's a lot on
the line in Cleveland, Ohio tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Jonas was supposed to do it on a bet that
he made years ago, and that was where the.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Whole bit came from.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
By the way, Tony Romo gets ten million dollars a year,
I'm getting a sex try no, al fort, let me
explain myself. This is this is outrageous, all right, all right,
So years ago, when Brady and I were doing our
Sunday night show, there was a report that when Tony
Romo was going to re up his deal with CBS.
He was going to get over ten million dollars a year,
you know, I think he got eighteen million, and I
thought there was no way anybody was going to give

(03:49):
him that amount of money. So that's why I said
this when the when the topic came up about Tony
Romo and the ten million dollars.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
The difference is Jonas said it and meant it. I
said it joking around based on what what Joanas.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It when he did it. So but anyway, I did
not believe.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
You're Jonas's character in the question.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Now it is it is.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Called it is called in the character or called into question.
And I did not believe that the Calves would win
this series.

Speaker 9 (04:20):
We should point this out to Jonas on that Sunday
Night show would say some of the most ridiculous things
you've ever heard, because he knew no one, no one
would remember a week later what he had said.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
The prior so hared to there was that too.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
So but he would say things like this and think
no one would ever hold him accountable.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
For advice studio and yank my nipples.

Speaker 8 (04:45):
But if he was right, he could take the victory lap.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, that's right, I did things exactly. That's how we
do it.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yank your nipples.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Huh. I'm curious when the NFL schedule comes out and
we're like, oh, the a big release date is going
to be Thursday and they'll do the International Games Wednesday. Well,
if that's the case, how can we know so many
of these games already? And just now they're starting to like,
what is the process like when when insiders like yourself

(05:16):
are given the schedule of games to where you can
feel comfortable about releasing that information.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
I mean, I don't like, this isn't like one of
these that I really pursue much, to be honest with you,
you know, I think it's like like I don't really
treat it as new, like quote unquote news, but some
people do, you know, And so you see that out
there and I and look like I think there's like
a big difference between a leak and an announcement.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
Like compare this to the draft, Right.

Speaker 7 (05:45):
The NFL does not want the draft picks getting out
before the commissioner gets to the podium. They flat out
do not want that.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
Right, in this case, they do.

Speaker 7 (05:54):
Want this information out there because they do want it
to be a big deal that the schedule is coming
out this week, and you know, all.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
The different networks have their upfronts this.

Speaker 7 (06:02):
Week, so that's part of it too, and selling all
this stuff to.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Advertisers and all that, and you know, so they want
what the NFL wants is not just people to tune
in at eight o'clock tonight.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
They want people.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
Paying attention to them all week, you know.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
And so like that's why that's.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Why I always laugh when I see you know, I
think and.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
I love I love Pat, but like you.

Speaker 7 (06:26):
Know, McAfee headed on his show like schedule leaks, Like
they're not leaks, dude, Like these aren't leaks at all,
Like these are these are coordinator and announcements when something is.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
On the Today Show and you have like you.

Speaker 8 (06:39):
Know, whoever Savannah.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Gotthory reading it as not a leak, that is a
that is an announcement, you know, and that's something in
the NFL wants out there.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
And so you know, I I like, I think that
it's just.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
Sort of a way for them of bringing excitement to
the idea.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
That the season isn't that far off and all of that.
You know, look like I know this like going back.

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Like ten to fifteen years, they wanted to try to
create like the different events you know, over the course
of the off season, so everybody's talking football NonStop, right,
and that was like if you guys remember there was
one year where they actually moved the draft into May
and it didn't really work, but they did that because
they wanted to stretch out the amount of time people

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were talking football, and so they knew the draft was
a big talker and so like, let's move the draft
into May and maybe that'll work.

Speaker 8 (07:31):
And now it's evolved to the point.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
Where you know, Okay, you got the combine, which is
sort of the introduction to the draft in February, two
weeks after the Super Bowl, you got the free agency.
In March, you had all the rules changes and that
stuff happening. Later that month, you got the Draft, which
kind of encompasses all of April, and then you have
this in May. And so you know, again, like I
think the idea that the greater idea for the for
the NFL was to create discussion around football, you know,

(07:55):
around the clock and around the calendar. And so you know,
they've sort of taken this week and tried to turn
it into a way to get people excited about you
know it's gonna happen in September and October November.

Speaker 9 (08:09):
Can I admit something, I don't really find the whole
schedule releas thing like entertaining at all.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I mean, we know.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Who, yeah, teams are playing, you know, yeah, but no,
but I'm saying we know who the teams are playing
at the end of the regular season, like we've known
who they're playing in January, we just don't know when
they're playing them, which, to be quite honestly, it doesn't
matter to me.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I can probably give you a prediction.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
You know what's interesting? So here I think what's most
interesting in seeing who got screwed, you know what I mean,
like who's got.

Speaker 9 (08:39):
To play like with with what my weeks or like
the string of weeks like it.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
Was going to pull some outrageous travel trick like you remember,
do you guys remember what happened to the Jets a
couple of years ago where they had to play Monday
night in San Francisco, then come home from San Francisco
and you guys know what time you get home if
you're playing in New York right from a San Francisco
Monday night game, then they had to turn around and

(09:04):
play in Tennessee, which isn't that isn't that far away,
but still time zone away the following Sunday, and then
the following Thursday. After that they finally had their home opener.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
And so it's Monday, Sunday, Thursday.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
You know, you have the teams that were playing that
Christmas Wednesday?

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Was that two years ago?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Now? Yeah? Right?

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Like, so all those teams had to play at the
end of the season Sunday, Saturday Wednesday. There's one team
I know this year that I think we're all going
to be talking about later.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Today that's going to have to play on six of.

Speaker 8 (09:36):
The seven days the week.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
You know, Oh, can you tell us or no?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Is that z I.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Can't tell you no, But like I mean, it's it's
six of the seven days of the week, which is
like and there's gonna be some outrageous traveling there too,
you know.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
So it's like.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I mean, here's the problem with the travel.

Speaker 9 (09:54):
It's like, we know the Rams, we know the Seahawks,
we know like those NFC West teams, did we travel anyway?
And then you you factor in a couple of the things.
So it's just I don't know, I've never.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Been in Niners.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
For example, the.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
Niners go to Australia and Mexico this year.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
And people are like, well, Mexico, that's not that.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Big a deal. Well that was supposed to be a
home game, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Like, so so they're losing a home So the Australia
game is a road game, right, Like that's that's a
RAMS home game. But but then they but then they
lose them. They're losing a home game to go to Mexico,
and like that is a game at like at rate,
Like people don't realize the altitude thing there.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I think it's like it it's it's like three or.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
Four thousand feet higher above sea level than Denver is.
You know, yeah, there's all the complications that like come.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
With playing in Mexico.

Speaker 6 (10:48):
So like like that's always like to me, like that's always.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
The most interesting thing because I do think like, and
you know, I have no way to like quantify this,
but you know, I think if you talk to enough
people like damn these.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's seven and fifty feet above sea level by the way.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, so they I mean like you
look alike a lot of these like a lot of
these teams to tell you the ones that have that
sort of thing like where they're playing constantly Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Sat, all that different stuff. You know, like that takes
a toll on you, you know what I mean, like
that that like and like by the end of the year,
sometimes those teams are worn out, Like the Chiefs have
had to do.

Speaker 8 (11:29):
That two years in a row. And I think of
like that.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
If you talk to Chiefs people off the record, they
will tell you, like, like last year, like a lot
of it caught up with them where they were sort
of a dead ass.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Team by the end of the year. And I do
think it takes a toll on a.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Team when you know, like again, like you don't want
to be the team that's playing Sunday at one every
week because that probably means you're not very good. But
there is a toll the better teams, you know, have
to pay for for having for being just sort of
you know, shoehorned into all these different broadcast windows.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
AB we were asking the question, was there any connection
or relevance to naming.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
New England in the game.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
You know, it's there a sensational lives factor, is there?
You said, you want people talking, They want people talking
about the NFL. I mean, is there any is there
any type of connection there.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
You want me to put on my my my cynics
at like I can be.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Be please please if you want.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Me to be the cynic here, Okay, I would tell
you just look at the super.

Speaker 7 (12:45):
Bowl, right And I always tell people like when they
announce the halftime act for the super Bowl or whatever
like that, like whoever that is like all the answer
or stuff they're doing around the super Bowl that ain't
for me or you, you know what I mean, Like
they have us, Like they don't need to worry about
people like me or you tuning into the super Bowl, right,
Like that's not their concern. What gets you from sixty

(13:08):
to seventy million watching or eighty to ninety million watching
or one hundred to one hundred and ten million watching
is like getting the fringe person who could take it
or leave it, you know what I mean, Like the
person who wouldn't normally be watching the game, Like how
do you pull that person in?

Speaker 6 (13:24):
And if you wanted to really be a cynic here.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
And what's the biggest story, Like what's the story that's
captured the attention what's the football story?

Speaker 8 (13:32):
This offseason has captured the attention of the non football fan.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Oh bree saw signing.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
That wasn't that funny? That was not that funny by Jones.
Don't give him the pity.

Speaker 7 (13:49):
I thought that was good.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
I thought that was good.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
No, but but but but, like if I wanted to
be a cynic, like there's going to be like there
might be still some morbid curiosity like oh, like this
is interesting, you.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (14:03):
And you know, like so.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
That after the Diana Rassini stuff broke is the first
game of the year. That's that's right, that's the word.
Let's let's put it out there and address it the
way that that.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
They were because it's because it can't be the game.
The game was awful in the Super Bowl, right and
I and.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
I would actually argue, I would say, from.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
A football perspective, putting the Bears in that slot might
be more interesting.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
You know, because I just think.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Caleb Williams coming back second like his third year now,
they were really they were an exciting team last year.

Speaker 8 (14:40):
You know, like I I sort of look at the
Bears as I think the Bears are a really interesting team.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
And I think you could make the argument.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
That the Bears, like Bears Seahawks has got as much
or more curb appeal from a football perspective, just football
than than than than Seahawks Patriots would But but.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
You know, like I do think you have that like
a little element.

Speaker 8 (15:02):
So if I'm being.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Cynical about it, and I'm looking at.

Speaker 7 (15:05):
Like the actions of the league in the past, and
I'm saying, like, okay, like there's a focus on bringing
in like the non football fan or maybe the person
who could take it or leave it, Like maybe that
gives the game a little bit extra juice, you know,
where people.

Speaker 6 (15:18):
Are circling back, people who don't pay much attention to
football are circling back at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
It's like, oh, yeah, you remember that story back in,
you know, in April, and may like that guy is
coaching in the opener night, you know, and maybe they
tune in and watch.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Get him
on x at Albert Breer. So I did want to
ask you about Devon Aitchen and sort of the deal
that he got, because there's been there was some speculation
would he be the next to go because they've traded
away everybody. They're clearly in a rebuild, yet they give

(15:51):
them a contract like that in Miami. Do you find
that a little confusing If you're planning a rebuild and
that's sort of where they're headed, why would you invest
that much money into a running back?

Speaker 8 (16:04):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
I mean, I you know, I I go back and
forth in this because I think, first of all, like
Jale and Waddell have more trade value.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Right, And like I do think that.

Speaker 8 (16:17):
To a large degree.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
This is a this is a teardown, and I don't think, like,
I don't think I'm treading on any new ground by
saying that they went into the draft with seven picks
in the first three rounds. They're going to be, you know,
I think I think they're gonna be very They're gonna
be very much like you know, building to towards twenty

(16:39):
twenty seven and twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 8 (16:41):
This year.

Speaker 7 (16:41):
However, they do have a new head coach and Jeff Afflee,
and like they're gonna have to build some belief with
the people in that locker room, you know, And if
Jeff Affley and Johnny Sullivan want to get their their
their program off off on the right foot, they're gonna
have to get guys to buy in.

Speaker 6 (17:00):
And so, like you know, it's going to take having
some players that can make competitive And that's sort of
what I think Malik willis is. I think Devin han
is that way too, and.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Maybe allowing you to manage games a certain way because
you're not going to be the offense that you were
with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle over the last few years.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
It's going to allow you to manage.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
Games a different way, play games a certain way, and
just give yourself a chance to be competitive on a
week to week basis. And I say that mostly because
I do know, and you know, Brady and LeVar, you
guys know it's better than me. They're the players in
that locker room don't care about your three year plan
or your four year plan. Like they want to know
what you can do for them right now. And what
they want is a chance to be competitive and a

(17:42):
chance to succeed individually. And you know, so you can't
like strip the team all the way down and just
have nothing for them as far as giving them a
chance to win.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
And I do think a chen gives them a chance
to at least play a certain way and maybe maybe
win a couple of games.

Speaker 8 (17:59):
Say yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
I could see that.

Speaker 9 (18:02):
Look, he's twenty four, right, He's a building block not
just for right now but for the future too, So
I could see how that makes a lot of sense.
And honestly, I had the chance to listen to Jeff
Affley at a conference he was speaking at, and one
of the things that he referenced was the way they're
building this roster is similar to his experience being around

(18:22):
Kyle Shanahan in San fran and just the manner of understanding, like, hey,
let's get really young, let's like build this culture of
competitiveness where there's not a lot of guys who are
those like consummate pros or veterans that have been here
that they're spots solidified, Like we want everyone to compete,
everyone to you know, realize there are plenty of jobs

(18:45):
at stake, and that's why they signed a bunch of
undrafted free agents. They drafted a lot of players, and
he's trying to kind of flip the culture there in
that manner, and I think it might work in a
place like Miami where there's a lot of instractions. But
you know, if you're not a paid player, you can't
really feel comfortable enjoying many of those distractions because if

(19:08):
you do, you're either gonna you know, slip up and
not be as good as you can be in some
of those competitions, or you know, you're gonna end up
slipping up where something's gonna happen and they can move
on from.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
You, right, right, And I think San Francisco is like a.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Good example because of how many guys they hit on
outside of the first round, you know, I mean, people
forget like that first draft. The two first round picks
for John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan that year were Solomon
Thomas and Ruben Foster. I mean one was just a
decent player and he's still kicking around, but decent player

(19:40):
but not worthy of being the third overall pick.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
And the other one was just an abject disaster, right
And but like, you know, doing things that way, they
were able to dig guys out of you know that
dig guys.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
Out of the later rounde of the draft, like George Kittle,
like you know, like like Fred Warner, you know, and yeah,
you had your highly drafted guys like your Nick Fosa's
and you're DeForest Buckner's and your Eric Armstead. But they
obviously have done a phenomenal job, you know, just drafting
and developing and getting guys and you know, outside of

(20:14):
the first round.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
And I could see.

Speaker 7 (20:15):
Where Jeff would would would see that as a model
for what he wants to do in Miami, especially with
the number of draft picks they had this year.

Speaker 9 (20:23):
All right, Albert, I got to ask you something about
the media rights deals because there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Of things going around right now.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
I think CBS has already opened up their negotiation window
with the NFL. But you know, Netflix has said that
they don't want a full Slater package. I'm sure because
of their deep pockets, the NFL wasn't the case yet
Netflix is going to do at the NFL Honors show
for them. You know, where do you kind of foresee
this all shaking out? Because it feels like the NFL

(20:50):
wants to hit that twenty five billion a year and
the best way to do it is through media rights
and really with these streaming platforms.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
But we're just not there yet.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
I think Netflix is a great example of it, Brady. Like,
I think part of the reason they want to go
to eighteen games obviously is to create more inventory.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
And so like I think, you.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Know, what they were able to do with Netflix is.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
They like, okay, like we're going to sell them like
an event package, right, So they have week.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
One week eighteen Thanksgiving even two on Christmas Day. That's
five games, and like that's going to be how Netflix
is going to brand them, right like that, you know,
we are there, we're event television, you know, and we're
going to hold you know, special event NFL.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Games on our air, right, And you know, I think.

Speaker 7 (21:35):
The same thing is, you know, true of the international package.
So they want to go to sixteen games, and you know,
I think the way you do that is you say, okay,
like if you're playing an eighteen game season, everybody has
one international game every year, and then you play alternating
nine home.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Games, eight road games, one neutral.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
Site, and then the next year it's eight home games,
one neutral site, nine road games, right, and so then
you can create like your Sunday Morning package that you're
selling that off, you know, And so you know, I
think what they're trying to do now is is create
like different sorts of packages beyond just like what we've

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all you know, grown up watching, which is Sunday Sunday afternoon,
Sunday night, Monday night. They created Thursday night, you know,
and then then I think, like you get this event
package with Netflix.

Speaker 8 (22:30):
I think the next one would.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Be the international package, you know, which would be the
Sunday morning games, you know, at least the ones that
are in Europe. I think, with different time zones and
everything else. You know, like we'll see how all of
that goes.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
But that's how they're growing it. You know.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
It's just you know, they came to this determination Brady,
fifteen twenty years ago, whatever it was, where you know,
we only have so much more room to grow domestically up,
so we need to grow out, and we're growing out
means is growing inventory, is creating new inventory. So that's
been going on for a long time.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
That's two teams in.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
LA, that's you know, going to Europe, that's going to
seventeen games, that's expanding the playoffs. That's creating new inventory
that you can sell. And certainly, you know, what they're
doing with the television packages is the best example of it.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Get them on x at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the MMQB and a Thursday tradition
here on this show. AB always appreciate it. Let's do
it again next week.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Thanks guys, good luck tomorrow night. LeVar, I'm rooting for you.
Maybe I want to do it.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Go your way, Go Chavs, Baby, go Javs. I've got
two games to work with. I feel very confident that
the Lovarella is going.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
To get.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
Lorette lovarette.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
When this series, I will get a sex chain.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
So stupid, man, we're only forty eight minutes to I.

Speaker 10 (24:02):
Know.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Oh my god. All right, well, Abe, well done, and
we'll talk next week. There is the great Albert Breer
here on Fox Sports Radio. So listen, man, you know
you got to own up to.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
These bets, all right, Jonas, relax, You pay up first
and then I'll think about it.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
How about that.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Yeah, we see what kind of arrangements we could make.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
You guys can get a discount if you do it together.

Speaker 9 (24:33):
You know, just sure, I mean, you guys are both
over forty I'm sure there's some sort of discount. Speaking
of over forty, are you guys still working hard, still competing,
but your energy is starting to drop, the weight starting
to stick. That's not discipline, that's just biology, guys, doesn't
mean you have to accept it. I take M Drive
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men who still show up.

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Speaker 11 (25:05):
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Speaker 4 (25:54):
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them know. Try to tell you.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Let those non believers know.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, I just figured i'd get y'all the first segment.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, that's what we thought.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
That's what we are we Yeah, nowvars well yeah, alvar
all right, where y'all want to be?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, damn straight, we are win a game six, moving
on now. It might end in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
But you know you called it though, I mean, good
for you. You called it two games in a row.
I mean, whether they win it or not, you did
say they will run two games and two games off.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
In a row.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's three in a row.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Yeah, they're up three to two. I know they're up three.
I thought they already had one down.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
No, they're down to oh dang.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (27:34):
Well, uh, you don't seem to be as excited as
I am.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, i'mna say I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I'm gonna say this. I have road with the Cavaliers.
I picked them as the team last year and they
let me down. I believe I picked them as the
team the year before and they let me down.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
So this doesn't sound true. Your track rereck with Cleveland's
not good.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
No, no, no, no, I was. I was high on them.
I was high on them, and I know that the injury.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But not more than one.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Not more than one.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
I think there was Maybe it was Spider Mitchell maybe
maybe more than one year with Spidey and not just
maybe not Cleveland was Utah.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
I think they call him Spider, not mistaken, not Spider.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Okay, I used I used Spider with with with with
with the y. I didn't go hardy or and but
I didn't go soft day either, So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I do know this. They showed up, he showed up.
He played a hell of a game.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Jeez, James Harden must have been listening to our show.
I mean, people saying that he was using Zest's body wash,
you know what I mean? He might have been clean?
What what wasn't whatn't wasn't James Harten. But you know,
I showed up last night.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
I think Harden probably, you know, in all seriousness, I
think he probably does listen to this show because he
is a big strip club guy. And you know, when
you're walking out and it's you know, six twenty seven
in the morning Eastern time. You know you're getting an
uber to get home. You know, listen to that guy's
got us on the iHeart radio. For sure.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
I wasn't speaking very highly of him, but he showed
up last night. They showed up last night. And listen,
Kay Cunningham, he went cold in the second quarter. You know,
they still look like they were about to kind of
cruise to a pretty good victory. Their second half team.

(29:38):
Cleveland appears to be a second half team and Detroit
has not adjusted. This is two games in a row
now that in the second half Detroit wasn't able to
answer the adjustments that in Cleveland were able to adapt
and adjust to what it was that they needed to
do and overtook, overtook Detroit. I was when it went

(30:02):
to overtime, I was like, they're gonna lose. Like I was, like,
they're gonna lose.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Also a little bit of a shout out here to
uh Max Strus up top Brady talking about right there,
little Max.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Little ice cold shots shot uh Ice cold blood.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
In his veins. You know, they they did good, they did.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Well, But I do not I do not see anybody
beating the Knicks I don't. I don't see anybody beating
the Knicks, but they look good. I mean, Detroit has
been this team since the playoffs has started. For some reason,
they're not playing at a high level consistently. It's almost

(30:47):
like they had like in that third quarter, they had
like a really really long spurt of just lacks of
daisical shots, like almost like they were in a shoot around.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
But in the game and.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
The way they were like taking their shots, the the
missed shots, and and you know, in Cleveland kept playing
hard and they were able to get boards, and I
mean even even James Harden getting his own rebound on
the missed free throw. It just didn't it just didn't
seem like as as professional ball. At some points during

(31:26):
that game that that Detroit realized that they were still
professionals in a playoff game. It just I don't know. So,
I mean, they got to tighten up if they're going,
if they're going to have any chance of trying to
climb back, they got to tighten up.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I mean I would say this, Uh, that's no way
to handle being a favorite in an NBA playoff game
at home. And speaking of which, the PGA Championship is
this weekend and it starts to.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Another segment. I took a.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
LeVar, happy You're back. The PGA Championship is this week
next segment, And let me just say this. I don't
know that people are aware of this, but Scottie Scheffler
is the favorite to win the PGA Championship. He's been
the favorite to win the last fourteen majors. That's the

(32:22):
run that he's on, pure dominance by Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
He's that good. I mean, that's that's how he's been.
Rory's right behind him at number two by a sizable marching.
And there was a little talk yesterday in regards to
like course conditions, everything else. But one of the conversations
I started was on Rory's best day and Scotty's best day.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Who wins?

Speaker 9 (32:44):
And you know, there's there's a thought out there by
some folks that it's Scotty Scheffler, you know, even when
Rory plays at his best.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
And I think.

Speaker 9 (32:51):
The the outright winning betting odds would give you a
sense of that.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Scotty Scheffler plus three eighty.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
Five right now according to our friends at DraftKings as
compared to Rory, So uh, are we.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Gonna pick some names from the hat though probably should. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean, listen, I'm in.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You know, you know I'm always.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
I'm out Patty. Patty always gives the winner.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, but here's can I I could care less.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
About if I would or if I lose, So I don't.
I'm out.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I would like to, guy, I think we should have play.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
I would like to. I would like to say this.
If I get Rory McElroy again, I'm out too, because
I cannot deal with the fact that ry McElroy got
a blister and needed to be carted off yesterday a practice. Okay, well,
come on, man, that's one of those injuries. Don't say anything. Okay,

(33:47):
don't say anything until afterwards and see how the tournament goes.
I mean, he's checking his blister, you know, like he
just walked off Gettysburg. It's not like, come on, man, like,
we don't need to make this a big production. We
get it. You're you're you feel like you're overwhelmed by
Scottie Scheffler. You feel like you're not You don't have
a great opportunity here. You just won the Masters. We

(34:08):
got it, man. You don't need to look down at
your foot, like what happened? Okay, Like you didn't step
in a bear trap, you got a blister? Like, let's
let's just calm down here with some of this stuff.

Speaker 9 (34:18):
As bad as that was, nothing equates to Michael Block.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I mean, it's just can we move on from this?
Can we stop like the.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
Whole let's have the Block parties back, like, can we
get can we get over this? And he pops up
every once in a while, and he always does something
that makes you be like, I cannot believe there are
people out there who.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Are condoning this.

Speaker 9 (34:45):
So before he was saying a t shot, I don't
want to say it was yesterday, maybe the day before.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then look, these.

Speaker 9 (34:50):
Are their practice rounds, right in some cases they're pro ams.
He's talking to the crowd, you know exactly how he's
gonna hit it, and he needs a little more crowd
noise and whatnot that he blocks it right.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
And misses the fair way to.

Speaker 9 (35:02):
The rough and people start booing them, which he then
got a little bit defensive about. But I just, I mean,
I don't know what it is with the fascination with
Michael Block.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I really don't.

Speaker 9 (35:13):
And for people out there who like think his story
just started when he got invited to one of the
major events.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
He'd been trying to get his tour card forever.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
And yeah, it's just it's a tough storyline in golf, man,
it really is.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
What I know what don't talking about something? What you're
talking about on radio show man.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Yeah, this is the problem. I mean, you got a
mixture of blowhards in golf that are gonna love this.
It's to get in the hole, guys. You know, it's
the guys that you have the whole, during the whole.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
The guy's read golf spikes to the Can we pick
some names of the hat yet?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Can we get this done? And we've got We've got
the list. We've got.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Is he Brady Quinn on tell you?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Oh, I don't say anything. First off, wait.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
He go bed on the green.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You got to understand.

Speaker 9 (36:10):
I grew up in an area that had an annual
golf PGA Tour event, and so that was that was
the spot where people would get loose. They would have
house parties and they were there would be sponsored house
parties and they would get absolutely hammered. So that was
my first introduction to golf. Whereas most people were like,

(36:31):
oh yeah, it's it's like a very proper etiquette. I
was like, no, it's not not. From what I've seen.
Everyone seems to just go and watch a little bit
of golf and can get hammered. I was like, that's
that's what I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
You grew up in waste management before the waste management
event basic.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
I mean it wasn't like that on the course, but
off the course at the house parties. Oh yeah, I
mean it was definitely like that. And and that's where
like people come back from college and be like, hey man,
it's tournament Time'm gonna stop by the house parties.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
And you're like, all right, let's try to stick what's going
on there?

Speaker 9 (37:02):
And that was that was like the whole deal is
if you can parking, you want to stop over.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
There was there was a turn I think it was
Tigers tournament that was at Lake Sherwood and my brother
uh managed a restaurant that was up the road. And
after you know, like there'd be a lot of celebrities like.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Called Lakes Sherwood back then.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah it's Lake Sherwood, Sherwood country Club, you know.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
It was Sherwood Country Club, right, Yeah, but it was
in like it was in Lake Sherwood and so in
Lake Sherwood.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
But it was called Sherwood. That's what.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
It's the real ritty area. It's called Sherwood country Club,
but it's in the lake.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is that because they shot Sherwood there?

Speaker 13 (37:42):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Wasn't that the story behind it?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
You think I get in the gates there?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
They shot uh Robin Hood? Yeah, yeah, Robin Hood. They
shot Robin Hood. If I trouble, said Peter, by the.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Way, if I got near the gates of Sheod, if
I got near the.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Gates of Sherwood in my truck, I would be arrested
and escorted out. Like there was just just it's not
a place for me.

Speaker 9 (38:04):
I will say this. I went to that place once,
and you are not lying. Like when we went in there,
that was a nice aass neighborhood. Oh my god, it's crazy. Yes,
the homes were ridiculous and the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
But yeah, I remember those like some of those golfers
after the event, and they would go into the place
my brother worked at and they get after it. Man
like it was not like there was and they had fans.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
We did the super Bowl or Waste Management.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
I went to Mastro. I went to Mastros, and.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
You could clearly see the difference between the demographics of
people in one place.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
You saw who were in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
You saw who the Super Bowl fans were, You saw
who waste management fans, and the waste Management fans were
clearly winning the I'm faded content between two.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
It's great though. At the when we when Fox had
the US Open, it was at Oakmont in Pennsylvania, and
we went out there to cover the event. And so
we go out there and there's a few of the
shows that are there, and I remember walking around the course.
The Penguins had just won the Stanley Cup. They had
just had their parade, and so some of the Penguin

(39:17):
players and Oakmont's a really nice course in a really
really nice area. Hard so you could tell which ones
for the hockey players because these guys walked in drinking beers,
in shorts and flip flops, didn't give a rip, and
nobody said a thing to them. They just they had
carte blanche to do whatever they wanted there on the court.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Were you producing at that point?

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yeah, producing and hosting a little Yeah, it was okay,
well I was saying that was for j Moore.

Speaker 9 (39:41):
Yeah yeah, okay, come on, I was.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I'm trying to track that back to when that was Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
I think there's the biggest misconception that there's not a
ton of boozing that goes on around golf tournaments. That's
that's basically how you have to watch other people play
golf is you have to be you if you are
a dead sober watching another person play golf. And this
is obviously referring to people who are, you know, within
the drinking age. I'm just saying, no, you're a psycho.

(40:13):
For forget.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Forget you.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
You are a psycho.

Speaker 9 (40:19):
If you can watch golf, if you walk around a
course dead sober watching golf, man, you were a guy.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
By the way, I was unaware. I was unaware until
you just mentioned that. So some of these tools where
golf spikes to go, I.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Don't think they'd do as much anymore.

Speaker 9 (40:38):
But there are definitely some golf traditionalists that would dress
up with the proper attire, almost like if one of
the players went down, they'd get tapped in, you know.
I'd like maybe like a w W wrestling event, it's like, oh, oh.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Man, I can't do it. I got a blister. What's
your name?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Phil? Phil? Okay, Phil? Come on, and you got to
take my place like it.

Speaker 9 (40:57):
It was almost like they thought, maybe there's a shot
if someone sees me dressed like a golfer, I will
get tapped in to come finish the rest.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Of this round.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
All right, So we do have the names ready to draw.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
The names.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
They are all inside Patty's hat. Patrick Sweek has got
a giant hat, giant.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Yeah bucket Patty's.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
By the way, Patty's hat was used on Mount Rushmore
to stop rain from getting on me. I think you
could fit one hundred poy fish in there.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
I told you we're not friends anymore.

Speaker 9 (41:35):
Man's nothing, absolutely nothing to do.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
I don't condone that with We've noticed a change in Leda,
like she's not coming to the office anymore. She won't
talk me to us, like that was very.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Mean ever since she got back from Oregon.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
Man.

Speaker 9 (41:52):
Yeah, it was like just a little bit before then
someone turned to switch around.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You flipped the switch. They or turned it off, click
the switch. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
They clicked that switch, all right, Patty, I got all.

Speaker 13 (42:13):
Right, Well, I'm gonna pick who gets to go first,
and we'll do it kind of on a fast win
between Jonas Brady var Any meaning miney. You know what, Brady,
you get to go first. I'mnna let you go, and
I I'm gonna pick it from the hat right now.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Let's say big Bucks, No whamis big Bucks?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
And O whamis Scotti Scheffler.

Speaker 13 (42:31):
Please, and the winner as the hat has chosen Ludwig Oberg.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Yeah, he's got a sweet swing, isn't it Aberg or
Auburg whatever whatever it was Aberg? He might win all right?

Speaker 13 (42:48):
The next maybe if he wins, we'll know that's fair
between Jonas var Jonas var.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
Of course for next so that I could, you know,
should we should we skip the picks?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Should you do that again? We'll skip the pick giving
Brooks Kopka.

Speaker 13 (43:08):
You know, I'm just fine, let's give it, but you
get Brooks kemk all right, way to.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Go, Patty, that big as out of yours?

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I do when you're just going to give me.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Hey, b one one linebacker just like another man. There,
you get two linebackers, you and Brooks.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Just two linebackers, one support and the other. That lb baby.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
By the way, By the way, Wemby could cold plunge
in Patty's hat?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
All right, let's give who is Rey Raygatton?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
I can put my own give me that.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
All right, here's the hat.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
My arm is long enough. Hold on a second coldd here? Okay, okay,
here take.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
It hof help, I got Matt Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Oh that doesn't sound you don't actually guarantee he's fine.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
I don't think he's gonna win, but he's fine.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
All right, you go first. I won the Masters, so
I'll let all.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Right, I have chosen Cameron Young.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Okay, alright, bring you the hot Jonas. All right, no,
I can. I can reach through their my arms long enough.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
They're not.

Speaker 13 (44:27):
She's actually going in folks. Hold on the bucket is
being delivered to one, and.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
So are we doing snake draft. I'll grab two and
we just go back and revert to you that yes, yes,
just grab you too. All right, Okay, here we go.
You know I'm into this John Ram who doesn't answer
questions about live and Tommy Fleetwood. All right, that'll work.

Speaker 9 (44:48):
Oh, Tommy Fleetwood to Tommy Fleetwood.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You selected Tommy.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Food patty snake draft, so you're it's now your turney,
all right, I have cho was in Bryce, Indy Shamboo.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Good Ray, Ray, you're up. Snake draft, Okay.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
Draft second, second name, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
Let's go. Who do I get? I get?

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Don't get Shuffler?

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Rory, you could have it.

Speaker 9 (45:18):
You'd be into it, all right, let's go far No,
come on, no, I already got VARs lined up.

Speaker 13 (45:27):
He has Xander cho Oh nice, let's go one, two, three,
Scottie Scheffler to Brady Quinn.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
When's whens?

Speaker 3 (45:44):
I don't I don't.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
See how we do this. Why don't you just pick
who you guys want. I'm not gonna pick anybody because
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Wait a second, LaVar you guys Xander Shoffley, you know
what that means.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
That's gonna give it to you.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
He Hey, we.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
Gotta take a break when we come back. Can I
tell Can I tell a story? I'm not gonna name
names the story, but can I tell a story?

Speaker 8 (46:07):
Yeah? Sure?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Would cut your clear?

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
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Speaker 4 (46:52):
All Right, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox
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Coming up at about twenty minutes from now, We're going
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Speaker 3 (47:00):
On this show.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
This is a Thursday tradition here on this show. That'll
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(47:24):
YouTube and subscribe. By the way, did you guys see
this Matt Rule nil deal that's going on at Nebraska?
This apparently this according to the Omaha World Herald, that
Nebraska's paid five million dollars to Rules LLC for the

(47:45):
rights to his intellectual property, as well as his name,
image and likeness. Said the funds provided through a donor
now give Nebraska the contractual right to monetize Rules House
Rules podcast, as well as the right to sell memorabilia
with Rule's face on it. So, hey, everybody's getting a
getting a piece of this whole pie.

Speaker 8 (48:06):
Good.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
Well, yeah, if you can find an outside entity to
pay a coach or compensate the coach, it circumvents any
cap they would potentially put in a way I would
assimilessly got challenged. But also it saves more money from
the university having to pay him and goes someone else
doing it.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
So kind of works out if you think about it.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
I mean, we say nil, and it's it's become synonymous
with college athletics. But nil is everything, you know, in
anything really, you know, you create, create a brand value
to any name, any image, or likeness.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
You know, it's monetizable.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
So he clearly has a monetizable asset in his podcast,
and and so they're there investing in it.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
But again that's.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
You know, I feel like that's almost code for washing,
like you know, you're you're taking care of them, well
you know, I mean, it's it's legit, but you know,
I mean that is interesting. I mean, do you have
are there any real conversations on what coaches are able

(49:26):
to do outside of their coaching coaching responsibilities. I mean,
if you have a podcast, which coaches should have a podcast?
Coaches should have a show. I've always said that. In fact,
I you know what I've done in the last three
years at Penn State is try to create a personal

(49:47):
a personal podcast or show. I mean, everything is about content,
Everything is about communication. The best thing that a coach
can do is have an open line of communication that
isn't you know, altered by any you know, reporters or
any type of questioning that is going to come their
way and actually just have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You know.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
That's to me, I think that that's a It would
be a big bonus. I know some coaches may not
be comfortable with that or be good enough to do it,
but it is the wave of the future and it
certainly would be smart for brand building, for the coach
themselves to build a rapport with their their community. But
it would also be strategically. It would be sound because

(50:33):
you can, you know, you can do what like a
lot of athletes are doing these days, which is leveraging
content to push your agenda.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I mean shots out to Matt rule for what it's worth.
I mean, I'm an assistant coach of my son's little
league team, and I've got this show, the Jonas Knox Show,
which you can hear Saturdays here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
And you're joking around. But the funny thing is is
that you could actually create a movement in a following
off of coaching your little league, your son's little league.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
We did it was called piss poor umpiring yesterday. Yeah
we yeah, we talked about them. That's fair yesterday. Yeah, shops,
there's no joke there. You saw the call guy butchered it.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
It was horrible, It was a horrible. But but those
are things you could create. You could create, Like podcasts
only have to be like fifteen minutes long. You know,
sometimes on the on the longer side, it's like forty minutes.
But you could do a fifteen minute segment on just
that video of that dude throwing a calling a strike
with ball over the kids.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Just wearing out of fourteen.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Would be interested in it. They would be interested because
you know how many other people. It's like it's like
with anything else, right, a person comes out he says.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Oh, he you know, he did this to me.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Next thing, you know, twenty other people come out saying, oh,
he did the same exact thing to me. Well you
do that with baseball or with your kid. You're like,
you know, there was an umpire that did that to me,
this and that. Then you start getting a following, Yeah,
well they have whatever, you know, lost opportunity. You just
don't put that type of work in though. That's all
I know, lazy man, I know. And then you go

(52:09):
home and you know, tell me about it. Just stay
at home, mom, tell me about it. That's what I
do try to shame you. Yeah, is what it is.
I do know this that Jim.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Fill out of money though, I'll tell you that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Jim's Philip. Jim Phillips, the ACC Commissioner, was speaking about
some changes potentially to the college Football Playoff and apparently
there's momentum building a lot of people in favor, including
him and other coaches in the ACC, for a twenty
four team playoff model. And he spoke yesterday, when you're.

Speaker 10 (52:46):
Leaving national championship contending teams the university schools out of
the playoff, you don't have the right number.

Speaker 6 (52:55):
We lived through it.

Speaker 10 (52:56):
We suffered through it with Florida State when the field
was for and I know other schools have suffered for it.
And I've said this, you know, very directly, Notre Dame
was a CFP worthy team this year.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
If they just were there.

Speaker 10 (53:15):
And if you're going to ask presents and chancellors and
boards to continue to invest in their football programs, it's
really important that they have hope that they have an
opportunity at the beginning of the season to get into
the playoff.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
So that's the key right there.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
What he said, the last part, that's the key, Well good, yeah, go.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
Well, so then what if that's the case, because it
feels like there's momentum building there. I think the SEC
is pushing for a sixteen team playoff. The Big Ten,
the ACC air in favor for the most part of
twenty four. I know Mario Christobal has said, you know,
he doesn't like it, you know, and he's got his
reasons because he says, you know, what are we doing
with the regular season conference championships? That's what I wonder

(53:59):
if this is the direction we're going, what does happen
to the regular season?

Speaker 9 (54:03):
Yeah, so's there's some interesting thoughts about this because if
you look at the cause.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
And effect of Notre Dame USC, for.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
Example, with the playoff as it currently stands, SE doesn't
want to play that game. They don't want to have
to put another tough opponent on their schedule. Already have
to deal with the Big Ten schedule, so now they
want to expend it twenty four.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
It's like whoa.

Speaker 9 (54:23):
By the way, those talks never died about this rival.
We're trying to bring it back. But the earliest week
and bring it back is twenty thirty, which I think
most people believe there will be expansion probably to twenty
four teams for the playoff by that point in time,
and so it makes it more feasible to drop a
game to Notre Dame and still be able to make
it in as one of those twenty four at large bids,
which is one of the things that's been proposed. So

(54:47):
in one thought, people think, well, it kind of takes
away from the meaning or value of the regular season,
but in reality it doesn't, because what it actually does
is allow teams to have those big time matchups and
not be scared of creating a schedule with some of
those tough non conference opponents, because ultimately, if you drop

(55:08):
a game or two or three, especially in this case
if it's twenty four, you'll still be able to make
the playoff, which is ultimately the goal. So in actuality,
it will create better matchups during the course of the
regular season. Now, doesn't make the outcome of those games
as meaningful, no, But if you incentivize, depending on how

(55:30):
they structure the twenty four team playoff, if you incentivize
the teams that excel you know, by for example, creating buys,
which we have now you know that means you're playing
one less game, you have extra time to prepare to recover.
You know you're looking at it then saying, okay, there
is a prize to all this. Now what gets sacrificed.
It be the conference championships. Those are the games because

(55:52):
of the way the calendar would work that would get
sacrificed where we would no longer have those. We would
have to have conferences figure out how they want to
deem their teams as conference champions. And honestly, I would
be in favor of a world where we went to
ten conference games and only two non conference schedules.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Now, in saying that, who does that hurt the most?

Speaker 9 (56:14):
Probably Notre Dame because now you're working with less opportunities
to play some of those non conference games that their
name has to figure out how they're gonna schedule aside
from the five acc.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Per their agreement.

Speaker 9 (56:26):
But the reason why I like ten is I think
it gives you a more truer indication of what those teams.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Are doing within their conference.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
It still continues to build on the current media rights
the way they stand at this time, and I think
you're allowed to then have a truer champion for those
conferences because they've played more games within conference, because otherwise
as big as than these conferences are, there's gonna be
teams that really didn't have as many you know, crossover
games or you know, similar opponents. So I don't even

(56:55):
know if they fall within the same record, how you
can even compare the two.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
But again, does it matter, Like if.

Speaker 9 (57:02):
We go to a twenty fourteen playoff, I mean, all
we're really talking about is trying to put enough really
good teams in there to be able to go play.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
For a national championship. And we look at the.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
NCAA tournament, does anyone remember who won the ACC last year,
whether that's the regular season the tournament, like, or do
we remember that or do we remember who the.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
National champion was?

Speaker 4 (57:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (57:24):
I mean that's the hard part about this is to me,
if it dilutes anything, it's not actually the regular season,
because the regular season is going to set up the
seating and positioning for those teams in the playoff. What
it dilutes is and pushes away is the conference championships
like those now become meaningless, which then leads to the

(57:46):
question of what are the conferences really matter?

Speaker 5 (57:50):
If that's the case, I think he said it super
clearly at the end of his statement is that you
have to give the people that are within you or
within your ecosystem hope. I think sometimes that kind of
becomes tainted by some of these the how the success

(58:11):
that some.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Of these schools have, and it's just it's just, you know,
it's a given.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Like if you're in the SEC, if you're at the
top of the SEC, fans know that we're most.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Likely going to make it to the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
At least we have a great chance of making it
to the playoffs. But then you go into these you know,
the ACC, that's not the reality. You know, you go
into the lower parts or the mid parts of the
SEC and the Big Ten, that's not the reality, let
alone any other conference that's out there. There's no real

(58:50):
You gotta sell some type of hope if there's a
college playoff and you go into the season. Just imagine
if you're one of these schools, you go into the
college season and it's like, you know, we have no
shot at making this field none. It just to me,
I think that's what probably programs are are facing. This

(59:16):
is what conferences are facing, is that there is no
real opportunity to win a national title. If there's no
real opportunity to win a national title. And I'm this school,
I'm chairing my team on, but I'm just cheering them
on from a casual standpoint, I'm not really cheering them on.
Maybe it's a conference title an appearance. You're happy about

(59:39):
that if you're if you got a chance to go
to your conference championship. But if you're not going into
the college football playoff, what is the real investment going
to be from your community if you can't sell that
hope at least in the off season going into the
into the regular season, how do you sell tickets?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
How do you sell hope? How do you sell buy in.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
And support financially and participation wise. I think it's a
very very real challenge that some of these schools and
some of these conferences are facing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
So there is some thoughts on that as well too,
as far as what how that's different from from other
years in the past and how it's always been. But
I know we're up against it here, so let's we'll
continue the conversation. It is two pros and a cup
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