July 20, 2026 • 56 mins
On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington discuss the newest gambling scandal that is now plaguing the NFL with Cardinals Director of College Scouting Ryan Gold and his wife being involved in sports gambling. Plus, the guys hear from Robert Kraft defending Mike Vrabel at Fan Fest, the ticket prices for the World Cup final, and much more!!
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we got another potential scandal going on in the world
of sports involving.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Gambling betting, the evil sports books that are out there
on your phone that are going to come out and
get everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It's the boogeyman that everybody's scared of, the gambling virgins
who see sports betting and go, oh my god, it's
time to panic.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The latest is.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Ryan Gold, who was the director of college scouting for
the Arizona Cardinals. So the way this whole thing shakes out,
we'll have the initial details and then we'll have the
appeal going on because the NFL suspended Gold indefinitely for
violating the league's gambling policy. The league said Friday it's
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investigation determined that Gold provided confidential, non public inside information
regarding twenty twenty six draft selections by the Cardinals before
the picks were announced. And that Gold also participated in
parlay bets on NFL and college games. The league didn't
say to whom Gold had provided the information. Should be
noted he's in his thirteenth season with the Cardinals. He
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was promoted to a director of college scouting in June
of twenty twenty five, and he's been with the organization
in various roles over the past number of years. Now,
his attorney has decided to let everybody know we're going
to appeal this band. We're gonna go ahead and appeal
this quote. Ryan Gold has been an outstanding NFL executive
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for over a decade. The accusations made by the league
regarding his participation in prohibited gambling activities are blatantly false.
We have demanded an appeal and we look forward to
clearing his good name. This is what the claim is.
According to Gold's representatives are saying that the gambling activity
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was Gold's wife making ten dollars weekly bets with a
group of high school friends on parlays, and that Gold
was not involved. He also said Gold could not have
divulged the Cardinals draft picks because he didn't know who
they were picking, and that only team owner Michael Bidwell
and general manager in Monte ausin.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Ford did so.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
The fact that the league would step in and unish
the guy the way they did and would lead me
to believe there's gotta be something there for them to
feel like, look, man, we're not going to take any
chances this is this is funny enough or shady enough
to where we're gonna step in and punish somebody because
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we know the optics are bad. If this guy's sharing
information with people who are placing wagers on.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
It, I mean, was there a bet that was directly
connected to the draft picks?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
So that's that's what I think is going to be
the next detail to come out, because that's.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
If there were bets that were placed on the device
that is in question, then I mean, it's a no
brainer for a lifetime ban.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's a no brainer. And there's no way around that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Even if it was his wife doing it with her friends,
there's no way around that. Now, if there's anything else
outside of that, if it's defensible that he did not
know the draft picks and that that is confirmed by
the organization, if it is defensible that he did not
bet on draft picks of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
This is defensible.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
But other than that, if if it comes up that
he there were bets that were placed from that device
that had to do with the Arizona Cardinals and their
draft picks.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
As you know.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So the NFL's review included interviews with relevant people and
an examine examination of electronic records. So they've talked to
enough people, They've gone and done their due diligence on
sort of where where the evidence would be that they
could find electronically, whether it was a wager placed, uh,
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you know whose whose you know, account it was from?
Like who knows?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think what what tower in the when the right
was made?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So I almost look at it and I go, what
is the next piece of information to come out? Because
the NFL released this statement and it was kind of
vague in the sense that he's being punished for this,
but they don't really have details.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
With the Brendan Soorsby stuff. We knew everything.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
We knew the amount of money he was gambling, we
knew what events he was gambling on. You knew all
of that stuff. So they released sort of a broad
statement and detail of what was happening. We didn't really
get into the weeds on exactly what the bets were
that would make them concern to the point to where
they would hand down a punishment like this and they
would ban him. I think that's the next thing to
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come out, because you know, the lawyer is going to say, look,
this is through his wife, his wife's friends, his you know,
and we've heard that before to where you know, Brendan
Soresby was gambling through friends and all. I think there's
going to be more to come out. And but it
was his device. That's I mean, that's what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Because here's the thing, right, if somebody were to take
your firearm and go out and commit a murder, you
gotta you have a culpability connected to what took place.
So even though it's yours, if something goes wrong with
that firearm, that's on you.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And also when they mentioned that his wife, you know,
was was part of you know, placing bets through friends.
I mean, if she's the wife of the guy who
works with the organization.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
She's helping them like, hey, let's get some of this cash,
Like I know who the picts on put this in,
make you some dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Let's go shopping and It could.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Be something innocuous, like, you know, he comes home and says, oh, man,
we're really up against it because we got this, this.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And this and anyway, how is your day? I was good?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And then she talks to a friend later in the
week who said, got it thinking about putting money on
the on the cardinals?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
It doesn't absolve you from exactly, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
If it's your wife. It doesn't mean that you're you're
not guilty because that that's just that's the reality of it.
Some of these guys think that they are outsmarting the
system and oh, I'll have a friend place to the
wager or different things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Still ways of figuring out if it's the person that
that's in question that's really doing it. I mean, whether
it's like if it's connected to a bank account, whatever
it may be, and and for what it's worth, if
you're going to go to the lengths, which I'm sure
some people are successfully doing it. I mean, you know,
guys successfully stayed ahead of drug testing and and stay
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ahead of drugs that are yeah right, yeah, people, people
stayed ahead of the curve on on that. There always
are going to be the ones that choose choose that that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Way, and they're going to stay ahead. Is it worth it?
I just feel like doing things like that.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Where you know it could pop up on you at
any given point in time, Like, I don't know, man, gambling,
it just doesn't seem like that's the right that's the
right chance to take. But that's just my own personal
deal because I have gambled, just not in gambling, and
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have lost, you know, And so listen, we all have
our we all have our personal battles that we deal with.
I'm not casting a stone from from a glass building.
I'm just saying, at what point do you take a
real good heart look at yourself if you're doing things
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in the gambling field and and say I just can't.
This is not something I can be a part of.
While I'm active in sports, whether it's pro, whether it's college,
At what point, as an administrator, you know, coach, staff, player, training, equipment, man,
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at what point do you say I can't have anything
to do with this.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And and and at what point?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I don't know, because there's no way the organization can
stop it. There's no way the league can stop it.
Those who are going to mess it up and jack
it up. They're going to mess it up and they're
going to jack it up. And the part that I
guess I and I know people go down this road
and it doesn't make any sense is when you get
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the people and the crew that say, well, you know,
this is exactly why you know, when you get involved
with these gambling companies, when when you bring them into
sports and you bring them and get them involved, I mean,
you know, this is what happens. It was a bad
idea from the get go. No understand that even if
there were no gambling companies involved with the NFL, Ryan
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Gold's wife could still open up a gambling account and
place a wager on Cardinals games or draft picks. This
has nothing to do with gambling companies being involved. This
has everything to do with accountability and taking ownership for
the fact that this is a tentacle that is attached
to the job that we have to my career and
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if I proceed down that road, it could cost me.
And I think that you're and you know some of
these early issues of this, since gambling is so front
and center nowadays when it comes to sports, some of
these some of these are just examples that are being
made of to let people know you can't go down
(12:03):
this road like Brendan Soresby. It's unfortunate for Brendan Soresby,
but there's going to be a lot of people that
look at that and go, oh, so that's what happens
if I go down this road. There's going to be
a lot of executives who are going to have conversations
with their family members saying, hey, don't involve me in
any of this crap. If you guys are taking that
approach and you want to gamble on some games, take
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it somewhere else. Don't leave me completely out of this
because I can't take it somewhere else. Take it somewhere
listening to to like you are working in the National
Football League.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, yeah, do not gamble.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But there's you know how they play slots, but you
want to get a fixed they got slots on your phone.
Now the sports gambling.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is out, it's out. But the problem is there are
people that can't stop. Okay, do you want to go?
So then that's not a problem. It's course you can't
have it both ways. So that's so if you can't have.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Enough control for your loved one to maintain their job,
your your spouse to maintain their job. Gambling means that
much to you. We can't be married. We can't. It
can't mean more than than our welfare. That that impacts everything.
And I could use for you that that wager, that
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wager was worth your financial stability.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
No, it's ten bucks and it's a parley. Man, those
pain out.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Hey man, listen, if you got to have that deep
of a conversation, you guys are fighting a losing battle.
That's that's whether it's him, whether it's her, whether it's
both of them. And shame on him. If if this somehow,
some way becomes a part of if this is indeed true,
that he is using his wife as a shield, and
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that isn't true, shame on him.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Shame on him for doing.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That as well, because to me, that is one that
that is not a wife you want to have. And
I feel fully confident in saying that if I have
a wife that is compromising my job, my ability to
earn What does she do?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Does she have a job, do we know? Does she
have a what do you mean? What does she do?
Kind of question? Is that she's cambling, was trying to
pay bills.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Oh god, by the way, they didn't they make a
movie about that with Will Ferrell.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And somebody else was e Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
With Will Ferrell. Maybe, I just you know this stuff.
They turned the house into a casino. You remember they turned.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Their boys, Yeah that was Will Ferrell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
If not Will Will Ferrell, yeah, I forget. But yeah,
I just I think that people are starting to realize that, yeah,
this this is one of the potential downfalls of sports gambling.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And when you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Bring it into the conversation and you bring it into
the sports world, there's gonna be stuff like this that
pops up. But I don't look at it as an
over overarching issue for sports. I look at it as
an individual problem, like take some accountability. This idea that
you know, this is you know, we've got to throw
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everything away. We've got the you know, get rid of
gambling altogether. These sponsorships, I mean, this is this is
damaging to the sport. The Black Sox scandal, WHOA with
shoeless Joe Jackson. Like if you watch the movie Field
of Dreams, those dead bodies walking out of the corn
to play. The reason they have to do that is
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because they were gambling on games, and I got news
for you that wasn't when a DraftKings app was on
their phone. That was a long time ago. Gambling's always
been here, This is always been There's been potential of
this throughout decades upon decades upon decades of professional sports.
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There's always been the potential that this thing could go
sideways if the person had the wrong motives and they
got their hands on it. And it's the same thing
with peds. Ninety nine percent of athletes do things the
honest way, and then you get the select few that
get on the gas and they want to cut corners.
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I just I don't think this is a gambling problem.
I think this is a human being problem. And some
people like to take shortcuts, just like some people like
to speed, some people like to steal, some people like
to do bad things. And what's the old adage, if
you give somebody a hammer, it's a weapon or a tool,
how do you use it?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Like a lot of these are choices.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
That everybody gets to make, and unfortunately, when it comes
to gambling, people are making bad choices, and the ones
that are making those bad choices, it's gonna cost them dearly.
And this seems like it might be another example of that.
It was called the House. It was Will Ferrell that
that was in that movie. It is a it's a
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problem when it's a problem, and it's just like it's
just like anything else. So like, are you going to
take fast cars away from pros? They speed? Pro speed
all the time, their cars speed. You gonna take their
cars away because they can be I mean, listen, And
all I'm saying is because people will say, oh, well,
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that doesn't compromise the integrity of the game, and you're right,
it doesn't. Gambling does if I can gamble and tell
you who's getting drafted. Here's what's funny. I could I one,
of course, I'm sitting with Jay Glazer. I'd be having
the whole lineup like I could. I could, I mean,
I could easily be on something like I could get an.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Easy come up. Yeah do you no? It doesn't even
cross my mind right Like, and we.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Were sitting in Vegas the one year we did it
because you're not a scumbag, like this is a you
can't scumbag proof life.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Scumbags are going to exist.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
What do you want people to do? This every walk
of life? And I think that. That's the point.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You can't You can't say, oh, the problem, the problem,
the problem. It's something that the person wants to do,
and it's like anything. If if it's not positive and
you're trying to get them to see it from a
different perspective and they don't want to do it, it's because
they chose to not want to do it. This is
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about choices, decisions, and consequences, and if that's not in
your if that's not in your periphery, if that's not
in front of mine, when you're making decisions, like if
I'm a player, I'm thinking about my welfare, I'm thinking
about job security, I'm thinking about my family, I'm whatever
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it is that I have in front. I'm thinking about
all of those things. Because it's interesting whenever you see
the person get caught, whatever that reaction that you see
getting reported, you should have had that reaction before you
place the bet. I always say, like you see the
people like when the judge says you've been sentenced to
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two consecutive lives and then the dude just falls out.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Right can't handle it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You should have had before you did what led to
you getting that conviction, the way you felt in that moment.
If a person could ultimately figure out how to feel
those feelings before they do what led to you actually
being in the situation you found yourself in where you
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felt that way at the end.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Then we'd have a better world. We have a better
place to be a better.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
World, man.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
But people only react when they get cot.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
That's the problem with people is that it's always always
someone else until it becomes you. Yeah, the consequences don't
become a reality until after the fact. And like, so
the perfect example, we get done with this show at
six in the morning, you go straight home, right straight home. Yeah,
I go home too. They start serving alcohol six in
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the morning. If we wanted to, we'd be like, hey, bro,
you want to go get some dress, let's go get
let's go because we're done. Yes, like y'all just getting up, y'all,
we woke you up, we got you through your cup
of coffee.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We're done.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, we worked our shift, we're doing we can go.
That's our happy hour, six in the morning. But we don't.
We don't ever we have the choice, we have options.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
We're hitting on six during this show. We ain't never
hung out after this show. Yeah, I mean we barely
get goodbyes when it show's over.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Where's the gone out of there? Like that? The party?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
The parting words from LeVar every morning is a bro
And then if he sees Mark walking through here, he
goes more bar and then the door opens, So that's
it's not running over to the liquor straight. It goes
bye bar. He goes bye bar. It's just out of
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the But like you know, if we wanted to, if
we wanted to, could go right to that seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right right around all of us, like get a forty
all of what two?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I mean, we could be I mean, think about it,
and then our business unless it plays out on air
and and it isn't what it's supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
What what?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
What's stopping us?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We could go throw throw some up in the air,
go hot box, get get one of them, one of
them boxes y'all be talking about, or the little grenades
at the seven balls.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I mean, or the beat box, the beat box, the
buzz balls. We could go. I mean, we could be.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I mean, because there if there's an industry where you could.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Be weird like that, it's ours. Yeah, it's ours we
could be weirdos if we want to, like most of
us are, and that's cool. But yeah, I mean it's
just yeah, you got choices, man, and some people make
bad choices.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I mean that. That's not just.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Writing a book. Yeah, I'm writing a book. What's it called.
I don't want to release it? Yeah, okay, I got you.
It's called equity. That's what it's called. Equity. Yeah, there
you go. It's pretty dope too. You should make two
eyes like an eleven, you know, sticks equity with two
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eyes in it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's right. Yeah, yeah, see, that's what we're doing here.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
That's what I spend my time doing. I'll be writing
writing stuff stuff. I mean again, that's seven eleven opens
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You know who's who talking and speaking about various topics,
one of which was Robert Kraft, the owner of the
New England Patriots, who was on first take at Fanatics Fest,
and he was asked about, sort of how.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Are things going with old Mike Rable with the offseason
he's had.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
We're privileged to have Mike as our head coach. You know,
no one is infallible. And what's great about Mike is
he has great intellectual knowledge about football, all the technical skills.
He relates the players beautifully, and he's someone I have
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a strong belief in faith. And then I hope he's
going to be our head coach for many years to come.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So Robert Kraft, I was thinking about this. He really
needs this Vrabel experiment to work, Like he really needs
it to work.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And he's not in a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Position to do anything other than support Mike Rabel for
a couple of reasons. One, from a football standpoint, he
was the one who said we got to move on
from Bill Belichick. His time as ran its course, you know,
he's not the leader for this organization any longer. They
brought in girod Mayo. It was a disaster, an absolute disaster.
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There's also the reality that he was infallible. There's also
the reality that's where you were going about that, because
that's a reality too. So that was the second part
of this. So from a football standpoint, Robert Kraft, like
he knows that he's the one who made the decision
to move on, you know, since Tom Brady has left
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and now Belichick has left, Robert Kraft's the one left over.
And and if there's still struggles or issues, that's on him.
And then also, yeah, what's he going to do or
say to Mike Rabel when he's got his track record
as well too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Like he used that word like he was used to
using it, and he finally got to use it for
somebody else other than himself.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I mean, you know he would you know he was.
Ropert Kraft is a cool dude too.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I had an opportunity to hang out with him for
a little bit at at Super Bowl one year. We
had him on stage and we spent some time with him.
And then I was at the owners meetings one year,
you know, when I was really deep with the NFL
network and we were covering live from the from the
owners meetings, really really down to.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Earth, cool dude.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Did he seem pretty relaxed? Pretty? Uh? I mean we
were in Florida, we were in.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
So he may have just gotten back. Never in the handhouse,
it was relaxed.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I don't judge dudes for for their infallibilities for going
to the handhouse.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't judge them, and for what it's worth. Uh,
it must be safe to say things now. It must
be the investigation, because you notice the investigation just went quiet,
like are you.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Still waiting for the findings?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Because I kind of got to a point of where
it's like out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
By the way, what's the uh they're doing a spin
off of the Billy Bob thoughteh oh Landman, Yeah, but
it's called handmned. I walked right into it. Oh, I
walked right. I walked right and that was so dumb.
And I walked right into your hand land now land
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of hand, that too, all right? Uh so yeah, it's
it has quieted down, and I you know, I can't
imagine because people have brought this up that you know,
Diana Rassini's entire career is done. And I mean she
was just on a cruise. Wasn't like family cruise. It's
like business as usual, and and people have pointed out
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the fact that her career is over. But you know,
Mike Rabel just can operate, you know, business as usual.
It's like, I think that's.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
The biggest thing that that turns this into a conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But go official.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well, it should be pointed out that she was the
one who decided to resign. You know, she decided to uh,
I'm going to resign.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You don't think they were going to fire her. I
think they would have fired her.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well, I think that I do think that the investigation
would be a bigger deal if she said y'all gotta
fire me with cause I'm not making any sort of
claim on this. I'm not saying that this happened, but
it wouldn't be surprising to me if they paid her off,
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you know, and she was already making really good money
for a really long time anyway. I mean, she's she's
probably I mean, if she did well with her money,
I mean and got a little little bump, you know
what I mean. And I ain't talking booger sugar bump.
I'm talking a little bump from from from the Craft family.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know, something line of duty, something to soften the blow.
Line of duty. Man. You know you got to go.
You got that line of duty work. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You gotta believe that Robert Kraft is being as calculated
and as caring about this scenario because of how high
the stakes are if he were to lose Mike Vrabel
to this a non football related happening after going to
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the Super Bowl. I mean, he's already justified himself with
everything he's done by Mike Rabel being the coach that
he was last season. I don't think he has anything
else to prove. You were able to build a team
with a new coach post Tom Brady post Bill Belichick.
Bill Belichick is like he's slowly kind of making it
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seem like it was Tom Brady. Tom Brady's out here
doing flickoff matches with one of the Paul brothers. I mean,
he's kind of crashing out a little bit. Robert Kraft
has placed this New England Patriots organization and himself in
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prime position to be looked at as Yes, it is
the New England organization that is the.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Reason why we win at a high level.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes, it's me, the owner, Robert Kraft, that is the
main ingredient and the main reason why. So give me
my bust, give me my gold jacket, and respect the
fact that I'm one of the greatest owners of all
time in all the professional sports, most certainly in the
National Football League. I've been thinking a lot about this
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as well, too. The Super Bowl hangover is a real thing.
We've seen it. There's a couple of organizations. The Patriots
in their dynasty, they were the exception of the rule,
the Chiefs the exception of the rule. But usually the
team that loses the Super Bowl struggles the next year.
If you just look at the fact that New England
last year their strength to schedule in comparison to everybody
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else in the league, was by far and away the easiest.
I mean, I think there was like a three to
ninety winning percentage or something crazy like that, but by
far and away the easiest. And you factor that in
with the Super Bowl hangover, with the offseason that's happened,
and if they go out and they struggle this next year,
you know, people are going to go back to what
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has happened this offseason as part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I said, I've said that plenty of time, and I just.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I think this whole idea that you know, Robert Kraft,
you know, defend I just think he's in a position
where he has to defend him like he needs this
to work, like for his reputation, for you know, his past,
for you know, the the Girodmeo disaster, for the fact
that they haven't won anything since Brady left, since Belichick left,
and they got to a super Bowl last year, and
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that's all good and well, but it feels like a
lot of this stuff this offseason is kind of undone.
The momentum they had last year and if they got
on gut so I don't think it's undone. The momentum.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
And the reason why I'll say that is because Mike
Rabel is a very real dude.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
He's not a flake dude. He's a real dude.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
And maybe maybe I'll go with you on that. In
terms of the public image of it, like I could
see that, But in terms of the team and their momentum,
nah nah, I don't think that this killed their momentum.
In fact, it might have humanized Rabel even more. Mean,
he's one of us and he ain't.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He didn't hang that up when he hung up the
cleats and dealing with multiple women did not mess up
the way that we're playing.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It just didn't. That wasn't the reason why we didn't
play well.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Then, on the flip side, if they go back out
and win a Super Bowl this year, hey man, stick
to what you're doing, okay, don't forget what brought you
to where you forget what got you here, you know,
and if you were going to get there, what are
you driving in to get there? I'm just telling you
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because if you try to get there, well, I respect
to pick up that's built to do the job.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Without no fuss. That's what we was just talking about.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
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conversation about the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I thought you were going to go somewhere else. No, no,
I will not. I want to, but let's keep his sports.
But I mean that is sport. Dating is the sport.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
About the World Cup, and congratulations to Spain who wins it.
A big time win one nothing an extra time over Argentina.
By the way, do we have the Telemundo call again?
This south sounded on on Telemundo. I'll get first of
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all to do.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
There's something about the way he says goal that is
pretty it's pretty awesome. It's kind of funny. It's kind
of like lazy but kind of not. And then it's
like he's holding it. But you got to listen real closely.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
As you get deeper into him saying goal, you'll start
hearing someone in the background, and I mean they are
spitting out one word ten words per second.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let's hear it. Can we talk about this?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I heard go Telemundo on the call. It's yeah, it's
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a pretty simplistic way to go about announcing a goal.
It's pretty uh, not a lot of real creativity there.
But he's he's cornered the market man andres Cantor is
the guy when it comes to uh to make it known.
That that Spain scored the game winner yesterday in the
World Cup final.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I do in the world? Can we can we.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Just get into a one topic here. The ticket prices
all right to get into this event. I saw ten
grand cheapest seat like nosebleeds at Medmoir Stadium, ten thousand
dollars to get in like seven to ten thousand dollars.
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And look, I don't want to. Like, there's a couple
of issues that I've had with the World Cup. The
other the other thing is this, The fact that guys
get punished when they cover their mouth when they're talking
to a player on the opposing team is one of
the wildest punishments that I've heard. You can't cover your
mouth and talk trash like you can't. You can't say
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because they you know, they they're it's frowned upon, So
you get an automatic red card. That's crazy, like that
should be? Is it better if you say it without
covering your mouth like that?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
The idea that you.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Get punished for that never made any sense to me.
And you'll see they were talking.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why they penalize you for them?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I guess it's called the is it the press Prestiani law?
It's from hiding abuse or discriminatory language.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But that's sports. Sports.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
What are we talking about here, Like that's I mean,
I don't like that's smart. Like people talk trash. Did
you hear did you hear people say bad things on
the field? Did you say bad things on the field
of people of orse? So I just of course I
told you. I told people I didn't care about their lives.
So you if you were to come to dude, I'm trying,
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like I've told dudes, I'm trying to kill you like
I've Yeah, So if you would have covered your mouth
of the World Cup, you would have gotten around I'm
trying to kill you, bro, you would have gotten a
red card.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Get the f up about your life. Mother. It's just weird. Well,
there you go. It's just odd.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
But now that I'm thinking about it, I wish I
would have did that because it would have been way
more sinister, you know, because because instead of me sounding
like this, a saw like this, so folks covered it up.
I might sound like I'm kind of tougher. Just I
sound like a sissy. Now man, God ready, card, it's
not tough anymore. I'm just not tough anymore.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Jonas so let me ask you, this, is there something
because these people that paid, you know, ten thousand dollars
to get into this game a lot of money. I
think you got to get a grip on life. That's
one ticket or two tickets? One yeah, ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So let me and look.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
The prices might have dropped a little bit before the
game to a reasonable seven thousand dollars, But is there
anything that you spend your money on that Some people
would be like, really you spent you.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Spent that on that?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Some might say my marriage, that's like, you.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Know, you stole my answer that, yeah, there's that has
been what it's been? How much? I just don't I
look at it.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I go, man, seven to ten thousand dollars could pay
for a lot, and I know, look, I know, you know, housing,
everything's got up in prices. But I just feel like
that money could be invested elsewhere.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
And experiences are priceless though always you know that that
car commercial where they're like, oh this costs one hundred dollars,
this costs one thousand dollars. This might cost a million dollars,
But an experience is priceless. Bro A real experience, a
memorable experience that's priceless. So you know, if you felt
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like this was that moment in time for you to
get that experience, whether it was pre game like what
you did before the game, the night before the trip altogether,
then you get there and it's the game itself, and
then what the game was like, and then you get
out of the game, and it's what it was like
after the game, and even the day after, the whole
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entire trip, the whole entire experience. Maybe to them was
I mean obviously not. Maybe it was worth ten grand
to them. I mean that's a lot of money for
a nosebleed tings.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Look, and maybe I don't have a good grasp on this,
just because if you were to describe, hey, you want
to go watch people play soccer and speak Spanish, I'd
be like, yeah, that's you know, my wife's cousin's house.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
We'll be over there and at three orty stupid they'd
be right in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
And guess what, it doesn't cost me seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
He's so stupid.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
I guess I'm desensitized to it because I've stood on
so many sidelines. It's like, I think I'm just desensitized
to it.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yeah, to were like if you're not, if it's not free,
you're not, Like, why would you why would you want
to go it wasn't free. I earn't that. Hell yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (43:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
But with that being said, I mean I've been on
a lot of different sidelines and been at different sporting events,
even music events. It's just always I don't know, I've
just never For me, I've never been into spending money though,
So I don't know. We're the same mess every day.
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I do the same stuff every day. I don't really
do much of anything at all except work.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm a workaholic. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
But I will say this, if it's something that I
wanted to do, I want to be able to do it.
So if I did want to go fly to New
York and go or go to Jersey and see the game,
I would have found a way to go. If my
wife and my kids, if they wanted to do it,
we would have found a way to go.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I mean, what would you be willing to pay? All right?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Well, like, what would the most you would be willing
to pay to go to the game yesterday to watch
Spain versus Argentina.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't want to do it
at all. What would I have to pay is different
than what would I be willing to buy.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
I look at it like.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
This, look at it, and this is some wild stuff,
because this could this is the type of stuff that
happens in my life. You want to know why a
guy like me would go broke? You want to know
how I would go bankrupt. Okay, you're saying, those are
ten thousand dollars. If my daughters wanted to go to
the game and they talked their mother into wanting to
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go to the game, or my son and his girlfriend
was like, oh, they want to go to the game,
and then that meant that my other son wants to
go to the game.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Did you do the counting here?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
So three daughters, one wife, two sons, and a girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
How many is that seven? Okay? Is that seven? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Okay, seventy thousand dollars? And I have to go, and
I have to go, and I have to go eighty
thousand dollars, and.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Not just on tickets. Yeah, so, but everybody has to
fly in.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
So now you're talking plane tickets, you're talking hotel rooms,
you're talking food, Yeah, that's my reality. It's just that
that's why. And we've talked about this before. The TV
viewing experience at home is so good. Now to leave
me the hell alone experience is the best thing. Yeah.
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I just look, I don't I don't see any sporting
event and think to myself, I gotta be there, live, bro,
I be stressed out.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Penn State, outside of Penn State, because everybody knows me.
So I get my I get my shuttle right up
to the stadium, I get out, I go to my tailgate,
I do my tailgate. My tailgate's right there, I walk
right in. Everybody knows me. We're all family. It's simple.
But for some strange reason, when people are with you,
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that acts as stressful from day one to being finished.
So my wife and kids are there, it's stressful the
whole entire time. If it's any other sporting event where
I don't have that type of familiarity and set up,
the whole thing is stressful.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Hot like, and I say high level is high level anxiety, dude? Yeah? Like,
it's just trying to get in they bro.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
That's why my favorite sports venue is Wriggley Field where
the Cubs play, because the public transportation, you can.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I know the Red Line, I know where to get on.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
It drops you off literally right across the street from
the from the stadium.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And if you have, you.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Know, anything with you, if you if you have a kid,
and we took my son when he was real young,
we had a stroller with us. Literally, there's a stroller
check right around the corner from the ballpark. Because it's
in Wrigley Fields in a community, like it's in like
a neighborhood, so it's so easy to get to to
navigate around. You go to some of these other giant
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stadiums like so far, like some of these massive stadiums.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, man, it is. It is anxiety.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Anxiety and being at your tailgate, don't nobody care, and
being at your tailgate. That was easy because it's right
across the streetcross the street, and like literally right across
from the main And when we had to leave early
to go back to the airport, right there on the
road to the straight, the shuttle took us right there.
So that's ideal. But those my people that I had
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that came and got you, Yeah, yeah, bruh, they went straight,
they came. They because it's there's a barricade, like the
ground raises like you can't get past this unless you're.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
With the school.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
And then that barricade comes down and they'll come in
and they'll get you.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So you're welcome, But there's up with us that thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
It took you straight straight to the Airport's super easy,
easy button. That's why I don't do not nowhere else.
I don't do nothing anywhere else. I love my people, man,
they love me. But the problem with a lot of
these new stadiums is they're so difficult to get in
and out that I think that that that's the other
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part that people don't factor in is Man, there was
a preseason game a Niners, was it not? It was Rams?
I forget who they were playing in a preseason game.
Parking was one hundred dollars for a preseason football game.
And that's not including what it is to get into
the stadium, to be able to navigate through La in traffic,
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and it's just the whole thing's a pain in the aird.
That's why when they see these prices, people are paying.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
I went to a Rams game when Jay Loketto was
playing for Arizona, and he invited us and I was.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
It was.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Super stressful. Yeah, it's just just crazy stressful.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
So when you bring up the point that, yeah, you're
talking ten thousand dollars a ticket, you're not factoring in
how many other people are going with you, the flight
to get in all of I don't understand when these
stadiums continue to get built. I don't understand how there
isn't more of an emphasis on, Hey, how can we
make this an easier experience for people to get in
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and out of them. Look, Dodger Stadium's awesome, Dodger Stadium
is a pain in the ass to get in and
out of. Like, and that's why when people criticize Dodger
fans and they say, well, you know you you arrive
late and you leave early.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
You kind of have to.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Like if you if you're working or you're trying to
get something done, by the time you get on the
road and you're stuck in traffic to try and battle
stadium way to get to the get to the ballpark,
it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And then to get.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
Through it, they should build it in the sky, just
less traffic. Build it in the sky, or build it underground,
you know what I mean? Build it and then you
can part, you know, and then it's like you got
to go into it.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
So it's kind of not the same.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
But that's why people stay home and watch games. That's
why if you have a good TV setup, if you
have if you work it through my head right now,
if you have a good if it was in the sky,
they it wouldn't be able to breathe. It'd be like
playing in male high if it was underground. Does it
really make it easier to get into it? Probably not,
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by the way. You know, the older I get, the
more I understand the man cave because there's something so
safe about it. Yeah, and comfortable, and it's exactly how
you want it.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
And it doesn't matter where it is.
Speaker 6 (51:25):
Like you say man cave, like you could turn your
garage into a man cave. Like my next door neighbor
has a man cave where he's got his weights in there,
he's got his music in there, and he's got his
TV in there, and he's got this thing. We ended
up going and getting some because you seem I drive by,
I see him.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
He just sits in his driveway just rocking.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
They got these like beach seats that are like rocking chairs.
So now I got I got me a couple like,
I'd go down to the beach. I'd just be rocking
like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Rocking. See you pray.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
You probably tell your grandparents or your man like, why
isn't rock?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Then you do it now?
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Man, When I be watching the games, I'd be watching there,
watching them games.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I'd be rocking like crazy. Bruh.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
There's something about rocking yourself that totally like satisfies whatever
it is I got going on.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Your baby rock them, Yeah, there's something about it.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Man. I'd be sitting there rocking like a son of
a gun bro, just rocking. But you go to a game.
Can't do that in the game. Just you're cramped here.
It's said that you're seeing your grand your needs be
up in your chest.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Man. They gotta make they gotta make the uh.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
The stadium experience as good as the at home or
close to as good as the at home experience. When
you do that, you got a shot. Until then, I
just it blows my mind. People pay the prices they
do to go to some of these games. I just
I don't understand it. But anyway, congratulations to all involved. Also,
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I don't know if you did if you saw this.
But the nfl PA they have figured out a solution
because you know, they're not happy about the fact that
the World Cup had all these great grass surfaces that
they were playing in on the conversation, So the nfl
PA they launched a social media campaign with the hashtag
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worth the cost, with numerous players calling for natural grass
to be installed in all stadiums instead of turf. So
I'm sure that's going to get it done. I'm sure
that'll that'll be the one that convinces owners. It's that
that big social media campaign they came up with.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Sure he'll be the one.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Okay, it's all right man, All right, guys, how about
the next time you're you're trying to get a new
CBA or you're trying to you know, argue for something,
how about you do it then and don't take to
social media before then, you know, like, if they're going
to stand your ground, stand your ground with the negotiations,
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not on social media, because the owners don't give a crap.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
They're not they're not reading your social media thinking, you
know what, we've got to go ahead and put natural
grass in because those guys took to Instagram and TikTok
to let us know they're not happy like it. Just
it feels like you're you're you continue to go down
this road and it's not going to fix anything. But
you know, we'll see I mean, and if you got
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to complain about it, you know, then then then drive
over and do something about it, you know, take a drive,
take a commute over there.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
He want us to take a drive over there?
Speaker 4 (54:44):
All right, well then we'll take We'll take a drive then,
I mean, if you take us the break, well or
do you want me to just do a Menson?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
You want me to do a mention?
Speaker 4 (54:54):
That's not.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
See it?
Speaker 4 (54:57):
I do see it. I got a big one next
next break, y'all. I thought I was waiting on the
next break to do this. But let me let give
you a little Let me give you a little little appetizer.
Speaker 6 (55:08):
And speaking of it's a respect appetizer. And then if
you want to pick up that's built to do the
job without making a fuss.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
That's the song Frontier.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
It's built for the work weekend. Ready to load up
that tailgate on the weekends. The twenty twenty six Nissan
Frontier not bad, I thought, I had the big one.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I was I was waiting to do the big read.
The new friend was all warm. I was all warmed up.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Hey, you see the homie on on on the joint
right here right like now, they trying to confuse you,
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we got another potential scandal going on in the world
of sports involving.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Gambling betting, the evil sports books that are out there
on your phone that are going to come out and
get everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It's the boogeyman that everybody's scared of, the gambling virgins
who see sports betting and go, oh my god, it's
time to panic.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
The latest is.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Ryan Gold, who was the director of college scouting for
the Arizona Cardinals. So the way this whole thing shakes out,
we'll have the initial details and then we'll have the
appeal going on because the NFL suspended Gold indefinitely for
violating the league's gambling policy. The league said Friday it's
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investigation determined that Gold provided confidential, non public inside information
regarding twenty twenty six draft selections by the Cardinals before
the picks were announced. And that Gold also participated in
parlay bets on NFL and college games. The league didn't
say to whom Gold had provided the information. Should be
noted he's in his thirteenth season with the Cardinals. He
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was promoted to a director of college scouting in June
of twenty twenty five, and he's been with the organization
in various roles over the past number of years. Now,
his attorney has decided to let everybody know we're going
to appeal this band. We're gonna go ahead and appeal
this quote. Ryan Gold has been an outstanding NFL executive
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for over a decade. The accusations made by the league
regarding his participation in prohibited gambling activities are blatantly false.
We have demanded an appeal and we look forward to
clearing his good name. This is what the claim is.
According to Gold's representatives are saying that the gambling activity
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was Gold's wife making ten dollars weekly bets with a
group of high school friends on parlays, and that Gold
was not involved. He also said Gold could not have
divulged the Cardinals draft picks because he didn't know who
they were picking, and that only team owner Michael Bidwell
and general manager in Monte ausin.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Ford did so.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
The fact that the league would step in and unish
the guy the way they did and would lead me
to believe there's gotta be something there for them to
feel like, look, man, we're not going to take any
chances this is this is funny enough or shady enough
to where we're gonna step in and punish somebody because
(04:18):
we know the optics are bad. If this guy's sharing
information with people who are placing wagers on.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
It, I mean, was there a bet that was directly
connected to the draft picks?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
So that's that's what I think is going to be
the next detail to come out, because that's.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
If there were bets that were placed on the device
that is in question, then I mean, it's a no
brainer for a lifetime ban.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's a no brainer. And there's no way around that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Even if it was his wife doing it with her friends,
there's no way around that. Now, if there's anything else
outside of that, if it's defensible that he did not
know the draft picks and that that is confirmed by
the organization, if it is defensible that he did not
bet on draft picks of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
This is defensible.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
But other than that, if if it comes up that
he there were bets that were placed from that device
that had to do with the Arizona Cardinals and their
draft picks.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
As you know.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
So the NFL's review included interviews with relevant people and
an examine examination of electronic records. So they've talked to
enough people, They've gone and done their due diligence on
sort of where where the evidence would be that they
could find electronically, whether it was a wager placed, uh,
(05:53):
you know whose whose you know, account it was from?
Like who knows?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I think what what tower in the when the right
was made?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So I almost look at it and I go, what
is the next piece of information to come out? Because
the NFL released this statement and it was kind of
vague in the sense that he's being punished for this,
but they don't really have details.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
With the Brendan Soorsby stuff. We knew everything.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
We knew the amount of money he was gambling, we
knew what events he was gambling on. You knew all
of that stuff. So they released sort of a broad
statement and detail of what was happening. We didn't really
get into the weeds on exactly what the bets were
that would make them concern to the point to where
they would hand down a punishment like this and they
would ban him. I think that's the next thing to
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come out, because you know, the lawyer is going to say, look,
this is through his wife, his wife's friends, his you know,
and we've heard that before to where you know, Brendan
Soresby was gambling through friends and all. I think there's
going to be more to come out. And but it
was his device. That's I mean, that's what it looks like.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Because here's the thing, right, if somebody were to take
your firearm and go out and commit a murder, you
gotta you have a culpability connected to what took place.
So even though it's yours, if something goes wrong with
that firearm, that's on you.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And also when they mentioned that his wife, you know,
was was part of you know, placing bets through friends.
I mean, if she's the wife of the guy who
works with the organization.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
She's helping them like, hey, let's get some of this cash,
Like I know who the picts on put this in,
make you some dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Let's go shopping and It could.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Be something innocuous, like, you know, he comes home and says, oh, man,
we're really up against it because we got this, this.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
And this and anyway, how is your day? I was good?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And then she talks to a friend later in the
week who said, got it thinking about putting money on
the on the cardinals?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
It doesn't absolve you from exactly, Yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
If it's your wife. It doesn't mean that you're you're
not guilty because that that's just that's the reality of it.
Some of these guys think that they are outsmarting the
system and oh, I'll have a friend place to the
wager or different things like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I mean, there's.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Still ways of figuring out if it's the person that
that's in question that's really doing it. I mean, whether
it's like if it's connected to a bank account, whatever
it may be, and and for what it's worth, if
you're going to go to the lengths, which I'm sure
some people are successfully doing it. I mean, you know,
guys successfully stayed ahead of drug testing and and stay
(08:46):
ahead of drugs that are yeah right, yeah, people, people
stayed ahead of the curve on on that. There always
are going to be the ones that choose choose that that.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Way, and they're going to stay ahead. Is it worth it?
I just feel like doing things like that.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
Where you know it could pop up on you at
any given point in time, Like, I don't know, man, gambling,
it just doesn't seem like that's the right that's the
right chance to take. But that's just my own personal
deal because I have gambled, just not in gambling, and
(09:35):
have lost, you know, And so listen, we all have
our we all have our personal battles that we deal with.
I'm not casting a stone from from a glass building.
I'm just saying, at what point do you take a
real good heart look at yourself if you're doing things
(09:57):
in the gambling field and and say I just can't.
This is not something I can be a part of.
While I'm active in sports, whether it's pro, whether it's college,
At what point, as an administrator, you know, coach, staff, player, training, equipment, man,
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at what point do you say I can't have anything
to do with this.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And and and at what point?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I don't know, because there's no way the organization can
stop it. There's no way the league can stop it.
Those who are going to mess it up and jack
it up. They're going to mess it up and they're
going to jack it up. And the part that I
guess I and I know people go down this road
and it doesn't make any sense is when you get
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the people and the crew that say, well, you know,
this is exactly why you know, when you get involved
with these gambling companies, when when you bring them into
sports and you bring them and get them involved, I mean,
you know, this is what happens. It was a bad
idea from the get go. No understand that even if
there were no gambling companies involved with the NFL, Ryan
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Gold's wife could still open up a gambling account and
place a wager on Cardinals games or draft picks. This
has nothing to do with gambling companies being involved. This
has everything to do with accountability and taking ownership for
the fact that this is a tentacle that is attached
to the job that we have to my career and
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if I proceed down that road, it could cost me.
And I think that you're and you know some of
these early issues of this, since gambling is so front
and center nowadays when it comes to sports, some of
these some of these are just examples that are being
made of to let people know you can't go down
(12:03):
this road like Brendan Soresby. It's unfortunate for Brendan Soresby,
but there's going to be a lot of people that
look at that and go, oh, so that's what happens
if I go down this road. There's going to be
a lot of executives who are going to have conversations
with their family members saying, hey, don't involve me in
any of this crap. If you guys are taking that
approach and you want to gamble on some games, take
(12:25):
it somewhere else. Don't leave me completely out of this
because I can't take it somewhere else. Take it somewhere
listening to to like you are working in the National
Football League.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, yeah, do not gamble.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But there's you know how they play slots, but you
want to get a fixed they got slots on your phone.
Now the sports gambling.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Is out, it's out. But the problem is there are
people that can't stop. Okay, do you want to go?
So then that's not a problem. It's course you can't
have it both ways. So that's so if you can't have.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Enough control for your loved one to maintain their job,
your your spouse to maintain their job. Gambling means that
much to you. We can't be married. We can't. It
can't mean more than than our welfare. That that impacts everything.
And I could use for you that that wager, that
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wager was worth your financial stability.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
No, it's ten bucks and it's a parley. Man, those
pain out.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Hey man, listen, if you got to have that deep
of a conversation, you guys are fighting a losing battle.
That's that's whether it's him, whether it's her, whether it's
both of them. And shame on him. If if this somehow,
some way becomes a part of if this is indeed true,
that he is using his wife as a shield, and
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that isn't true, shame on him.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Shame on him for doing.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
That as well, because to me, that is one that
that is not a wife you want to have. And
I feel fully confident in saying that if I have
a wife that is compromising my job, my ability to
earn What does she do?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Does she have a job, do we know? Does she
have a what do you mean? What does she do?
Kind of question? Is that she's cambling, was trying to
pay bills.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
Oh god, by the way, they didn't they make a
movie about that with Will Ferrell.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
And somebody else was e Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
With Will Ferrell. Maybe, I just you know this stuff.
They turned the house into a casino. You remember they turned.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Their boys, Yeah that was Will Ferrell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
If not Will Will Ferrell, yeah, I forget. But yeah,
I just I think that people are starting to realize that, yeah,
this this is one of the potential downfalls of sports gambling.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And when you.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Bring it into the conversation and you bring it into
the sports world, there's gonna be stuff like this that
pops up. But I don't look at it as an
over overarching issue for sports. I look at it as
an individual problem, like take some accountability. This idea that
you know, this is you know, we've got to throw
(15:26):
everything away. We've got the you know, get rid of
gambling altogether. These sponsorships, I mean, this is this is
damaging to the sport. The Black Sox scandal, WHOA with
shoeless Joe Jackson. Like if you watch the movie Field
of Dreams, those dead bodies walking out of the corn
to play. The reason they have to do that is
(15:47):
because they were gambling on games, and I got news
for you that wasn't when a DraftKings app was on
their phone. That was a long time ago. Gambling's always
been here, This is always been There's been potential of
this throughout decades upon decades upon decades of professional sports.
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There's always been the potential that this thing could go
sideways if the person had the wrong motives and they
got their hands on it. And it's the same thing
with peds. Ninety nine percent of athletes do things the
honest way, and then you get the select few that
get on the gas and they want to cut corners.
(16:30):
I just I don't think this is a gambling problem.
I think this is a human being problem. And some
people like to take shortcuts, just like some people like
to speed, some people like to steal, some people like
to do bad things. And what's the old adage, if
you give somebody a hammer, it's a weapon or a tool,
how do you use it?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Like a lot of these are choices.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
That everybody gets to make, and unfortunately, when it comes
to gambling, people are making bad choices, and the ones
that are making those bad choices, it's gonna cost them dearly.
And this seems like it might be another example of that.
It was called the House. It was Will Ferrell that
that was in that movie. It is a it's a
(17:13):
problem when it's a problem, and it's just like it's
just like anything else. So like, are you going to
take fast cars away from pros? They speed? Pro speed
all the time, their cars speed. You gonna take their
cars away because they can be I mean, listen, And
all I'm saying is because people will say, oh, well,
(17:35):
that doesn't compromise the integrity of the game, and you're right,
it doesn't. Gambling does if I can gamble and tell
you who's getting drafted. Here's what's funny. I could I one,
of course, I'm sitting with Jay Glazer. I'd be having
the whole lineup like I could. I could, I mean,
I could easily be on something like I could get an.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Easy come up. Yeah do you no? It doesn't even
cross my mind right Like, and we.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Were sitting in Vegas the one year we did it
because you're not a scumbag, like this is a you
can't scumbag proof life.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Scumbags are going to exist.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
What do you want people to do? This every walk
of life? And I think that. That's the point.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
You can't You can't say, oh, the problem, the problem,
the problem. It's something that the person wants to do,
and it's like anything. If if it's not positive and
you're trying to get them to see it from a
different perspective and they don't want to do it, it's because
they chose to not want to do it. This is
(18:37):
about choices, decisions, and consequences, and if that's not in
your if that's not in your periphery, if that's not
in front of mine, when you're making decisions, like if
I'm a player, I'm thinking about my welfare, I'm thinking
about job security, I'm thinking about my family, I'm whatever
(18:57):
it is that I have in front. I'm thinking about
all of those things. Because it's interesting whenever you see
the person get caught, whatever that reaction that you see
getting reported, you should have had that reaction before you
place the bet. I always say, like you see the
people like when the judge says you've been sentenced to
(19:19):
two consecutive lives and then the dude just falls out.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Right can't handle it.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
You should have had before you did what led to
you getting that conviction, the way you felt in that moment.
If a person could ultimately figure out how to feel
those feelings before they do what led to you actually
being in the situation you found yourself in where you
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felt that way at the end.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Then we'd have a better world. We have a better
place to be a better.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
World, man.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
But people only react when they get cot.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
That's the problem with people is that it's always always
someone else until it becomes you. Yeah, the consequences don't
become a reality until after the fact. And like, so
the perfect example, we get done with this show at
six in the morning, you go straight home, right straight home. Yeah,
I go home too. They start serving alcohol six in
(20:26):
the morning. If we wanted to, we'd be like, hey, bro,
you want to go get some dress, let's go get
let's go because we're done. Yes, like y'all just getting up, y'all,
we woke you up, we got you through your cup
of coffee.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
We're done.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah, we worked our shift, we're doing we can go.
That's our happy hour, six in the morning. But we don't.
We don't ever we have the choice, we have options.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We don't.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
We're hitting on six during this show. We ain't never
hung out after this show. Yeah, I mean we barely
get goodbyes when it show's over.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Where's the gone out of there? Like that? The party?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
The parting words from LeVar every morning is a bro
And then if he sees Mark walking through here, he
goes more bar and then the door opens, So that's
it's not running over to the liquor straight. It goes
bye bar. He goes bye bar. It's just out of
(21:27):
the But like you know, if we wanted to, if
we wanted to, could go right to that seven eleven.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right right around all of us, like get a forty
all of what two?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
I mean, we could be I mean, think about it,
and then our business unless it plays out on air
and and it isn't what it's supposed to be?
Speaker 3 (21:46):
What what?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
What's stopping us?
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We could go throw throw some up in the air,
go hot box, get get one of them, one of
them boxes y'all be talking about, or the little grenades
at the seven balls.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
I mean, or the beat box, the beat box, the
buzz balls. We could go. I mean, we could be.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
I mean, because there if there's an industry where you could.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Be weird like that, it's ours. Yeah, it's ours we
could be weirdos if we want to, like most of
us are, and that's cool. But yeah, I mean it's
just yeah, you got choices, man, and some people make
bad choices.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I mean that. That's not just.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Writing a book. Yeah, I'm writing a book. What's it called.
I don't want to release it? Yeah, okay, I got you.
It's called equity. That's what it's called. Equity. Yeah, there
you go. It's pretty dope too. You should make two
eyes like an eleven, you know, sticks equity with two
(22:47):
eyes in it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's right. Yeah, yeah, see, that's what we're doing here.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
That's what I spend my time doing. I'll be writing
writing stuff stuff. I mean again, that's seven eleven opens
up at six. That's by the way, I didn't go there.
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You know who's who talking and speaking about various topics,
one of which was Robert Kraft, the owner of the
New England Patriots, who was on first take at Fanatics Fest,
and he was asked about, sort of how.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Are things going with old Mike Rable with the offseason
he's had.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
We're privileged to have Mike as our head coach. You know,
no one is infallible. And what's great about Mike is
he has great intellectual knowledge about football, all the technical skills.
He relates the players beautifully, and he's someone I have
(25:52):
a strong belief in faith. And then I hope he's
going to be our head coach for many years to come.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
So Robert Kraft, I was thinking about this. He really
needs this Vrabel experiment to work, Like he really needs
it to work.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And he's not in a.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Position to do anything other than support Mike Rabel for
a couple of reasons. One, from a football standpoint, he
was the one who said we got to move on
from Bill Belichick. His time as ran its course, you know,
he's not the leader for this organization any longer. They
brought in girod Mayo. It was a disaster, an absolute disaster.
(26:34):
There's also the reality that he was infallible. There's also
the reality that's where you were going about that, because
that's a reality too. So that was the second part
of this. So from a football standpoint, Robert Kraft, like
he knows that he's the one who made the decision
to move on, you know, since Tom Brady has left
(26:55):
and now Belichick has left, Robert Kraft's the one left over.
And and if there's still struggles or issues, that's on him.
And then also, yeah, what's he going to do or
say to Mike Rabel when he's got his track record
as well too, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Like he used that word like he was used to
using it, and he finally got to use it for
somebody else other than himself.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I mean, you know he would you know he was.
Ropert Kraft is a cool dude too.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
By the way.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I had an opportunity to hang out with him for
a little bit at at Super Bowl one year. We
had him on stage and we spent some time with him.
And then I was at the owners meetings one year,
you know, when I was really deep with the NFL
network and we were covering live from the from the
owners meetings, really really down to.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Earth, cool dude.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Man.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Did he seem pretty relaxed? Pretty? Uh? I mean we
were in Florida, we were in.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
So he may have just gotten back. Never in the handhouse,
it was relaxed.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I don't judge dudes for for their infallibilities for going
to the handhouse.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I don't judge them, and for what it's worth. Uh,
it must be safe to say things now. It must
be the investigation, because you notice the investigation just went quiet,
like are you.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Still waiting for the findings?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Because I kind of got to a point of where
it's like out of sight, out of mind.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
By the way, what's the uh they're doing a spin
off of the Billy Bob thoughteh oh Landman, Yeah, but
it's called handmned. I walked right into it. Oh, I
walked right. I walked right and that was so dumb.
And I walked right into your hand land now land
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of hand, that too, all right? Uh so yeah, it's
it has quieted down, and I you know, I can't
imagine because people have brought this up that you know,
Diana Rassini's entire career is done. And I mean she
was just on a cruise. Wasn't like family cruise. It's
like business as usual, and and people have pointed out
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the fact that her career is over. But you know,
Mike Rabel just can operate, you know, business as usual.
It's like, I think that's.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
The biggest thing that that turns this into a conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But go official.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Well, it should be pointed out that she was the
one who decided to resign. You know, she decided to uh,
I'm going to resign.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
You don't think they were going to fire her. I
think they would have fired her.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Well, I think that I do think that the investigation
would be a bigger deal if she said y'all gotta
fire me with cause I'm not making any sort of
claim on this. I'm not saying that this happened, but
it wouldn't be surprising to me if they paid her off,
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you know, and she was already making really good money
for a really long time anyway. I mean, she's she's
probably I mean, if she did well with her money,
I mean and got a little little bump, you know
what I mean. And I ain't talking booger sugar bump.
I'm talking a little bump from from from the Craft family.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know, something line of duty, something to soften the blow.
Line of duty. Man. You know you got to go.
You got that line of duty work. But here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
You gotta believe that Robert Kraft is being as calculated
and as caring about this scenario because of how high
the stakes are if he were to lose Mike Vrabel
to this a non football related happening after going to
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the Super Bowl. I mean, he's already justified himself with
everything he's done by Mike Rabel being the coach that
he was last season. I don't think he has anything
else to prove. You were able to build a team
with a new coach post Tom Brady post Bill Belichick.
Bill Belichick is like he's slowly kind of making it
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seem like it was Tom Brady. Tom Brady's out here
doing flickoff matches with one of the Paul brothers. I mean,
he's kind of crashing out a little bit. Robert Kraft
has placed this New England Patriots organization and himself in
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prime position to be looked at as Yes, it is
the New England organization that is the.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Reason why we win at a high level.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes, it's me, the owner, Robert Kraft, that is the
main ingredient and the main reason why. So give me
my bust, give me my gold jacket, and respect the
fact that I'm one of the greatest owners of all
time in all the professional sports, most certainly in the
National Football League. I've been thinking a lot about this
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as well, too. The Super Bowl hangover is a real thing.
We've seen it. There's a couple of organizations. The Patriots
in their dynasty, they were the exception of the rule,
the Chiefs the exception of the rule. But usually the
team that loses the Super Bowl struggles the next year.
If you just look at the fact that New England
last year their strength to schedule in comparison to everybody
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else in the league, was by far and away the easiest.
I mean, I think there was like a three to
ninety winning percentage or something crazy like that, but by
far and away the easiest. And you factor that in
with the Super Bowl hangover, with the offseason that's happened,
and if they go out and they struggle this next year,
you know, people are going to go back to what
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has happened this offseason as part of the problem.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I said, I've said that plenty of time, and I just.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I think this whole idea that you know, Robert Kraft,
you know, defend I just think he's in a position
where he has to defend him like he needs this
to work, like for his reputation, for you know, his past,
for you know, the the Girodmeo disaster, for the fact
that they haven't won anything since Brady left, since Belichick left,
and they got to a super Bowl last year, and
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that's all good and well, but it feels like a
lot of this stuff this offseason is kind of undone.
The momentum they had last year and if they got
on gut so I don't think it's undone. The momentum.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
And the reason why I'll say that is because Mike
Rabel is a very real dude.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
He's not a flake dude. He's a real dude.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
And maybe maybe I'll go with you on that. In
terms of the public image of it, like I could
see that, But in terms of the team and their momentum,
nah nah, I don't think that this killed their momentum.
In fact, it might have humanized Rabel even more. Mean,
he's one of us and he ain't.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He didn't hang that up when he hung up the
cleats and dealing with multiple women did not mess up
the way that we're playing.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
It just didn't. That wasn't the reason why we didn't
play well.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Then, on the flip side, if they go back out
and win a Super Bowl this year, hey man, stick
to what you're doing, okay, don't forget what brought you
to where you forget what got you here, you know,
and if you were going to get there, what are
you driving in to get there? I'm just telling you
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because if you try to get there, well, I respect
to pick up that's built to do the job.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Without no fuss. That's what we was just talking about.
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conversation about the World Cup.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I thought you were going to go somewhere else. No, no,
I will not. I want to, but let's keep his sports.
But I mean that is sport. Dating is the sport.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
About the World Cup, and congratulations to Spain who wins it.
A big time win one nothing an extra time over Argentina.
By the way, do we have the Telemundo call again?
This south sounded on on Telemundo. I'll get first of
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all to do.
Speaker 6 (36:45):
There's something about the way he says goal that is
pretty it's pretty awesome. It's kind of funny. It's kind
of like lazy but kind of not. And then it's
like he's holding it. But you got to listen real closely.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
As you get deeper into him saying goal, you'll start
hearing someone in the background, and I mean they are
spitting out one word ten words per second.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let's hear it. Can we talk about this?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I heard go Telemundo on the call. It's yeah, it's
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a pretty simplistic way to go about announcing a goal.
It's pretty uh, not a lot of real creativity there.
But he's he's cornered the market man andres Cantor is
the guy when it comes to uh to make it known.
That that Spain scored the game winner yesterday in the
World Cup final.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I do in the world? Can we can we.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Just get into a one topic here. The ticket prices
all right to get into this event. I saw ten
grand cheapest seat like nosebleeds at Medmoir Stadium, ten thousand
dollars to get in like seven to ten thousand dollars.
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And look, I don't want to. Like, there's a couple
of issues that I've had with the World Cup. The
other the other thing is this, The fact that guys
get punished when they cover their mouth when they're talking
to a player on the opposing team is one of
the wildest punishments that I've heard. You can't cover your
mouth and talk trash like you can't. You can't say
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because they you know, they they're it's frowned upon, So
you get an automatic red card. That's crazy, like that
should be? Is it better if you say it without
covering your mouth like that?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
The idea that you.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Get punished for that never made any sense to me.
And you'll see they were talking.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why they penalize you for them?
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I guess it's called the is it the press Prestiani law?
It's from hiding abuse or discriminatory language.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
But that's sports. Sports.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
What are we talking about here, Like that's I mean,
I don't like that's smart. Like people talk trash. Did
you hear did you hear people say bad things on
the field? Did you say bad things on the field
of people of orse? So I just of course I
told you. I told people I didn't care about their lives.
So you if you were to come to dude, I'm trying,
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like I've told dudes, I'm trying to kill you like
I've Yeah, So if you would have covered your mouth
of the World Cup, you would have gotten around I'm
trying to kill you, bro, you would have gotten a
red card.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Get the f up about your life. Mother. It's just weird. Well,
there you go. It's just odd.
Speaker 6 (40:35):
But now that I'm thinking about it, I wish I
would have did that because it would have been way
more sinister, you know, because because instead of me sounding
like this, a saw like this, so folks covered it up.
I might sound like I'm kind of tougher. Just I
sound like a sissy. Now man, God ready, card, it's
not tough anymore. I'm just not tough anymore.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Jonas so let me ask you, this, is there something
because these people that paid, you know, ten thousand dollars
to get into this game a lot of money. I
think you got to get a grip on life. That's
one ticket or two tickets? One yeah, ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
So let me and look.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
The prices might have dropped a little bit before the
game to a reasonable seven thousand dollars, But is there
anything that you spend your money on that Some people
would be like, really you spent you.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Spent that on that?
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Some might say my marriage, that's like, you.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Know, you stole my answer that, yeah, there's that has
been what it's been? How much? I just don't I
look at it.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I go, man, seven to ten thousand dollars could pay
for a lot, and I know, look, I know, you know, housing,
everything's got up in prices. But I just feel like
that money could be invested elsewhere.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
And experiences are priceless though always you know that that
car commercial where they're like, oh this costs one hundred dollars,
this costs one thousand dollars. This might cost a million dollars,
But an experience is priceless. Bro A real experience, a
memorable experience that's priceless. So you know, if you felt
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like this was that moment in time for you to
get that experience, whether it was pre game like what
you did before the game, the night before the trip altogether,
then you get there and it's the game itself, and
then what the game was like, and then you get
out of the game, and it's what it was like
after the game, and even the day after, the whole
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entire trip, the whole entire experience. Maybe to them was
I mean obviously not. Maybe it was worth ten grand
to them. I mean that's a lot of money for
a nosebleed tings.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
Look, and maybe I don't have a good grasp on this,
just because if you were to describe, hey, you want
to go watch people play soccer and speak Spanish, I'd
be like, yeah, that's you know, my wife's cousin's house.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
We'll be over there and at three orty stupid they'd
be right in the backyard.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
And guess what, it doesn't cost me seven thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
He's so stupid.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
I guess I'm desensitized to it because I've stood on
so many sidelines. It's like, I think I'm just desensitized
to it.
Speaker 4 (43:26):
Yeah, to were like if you're not, if it's not free,
you're not, Like, why would you why would you want
to go it wasn't free. I earn't that. Hell yeah,
thank you.
Speaker 7 (43:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
But with that being said, I mean I've been on
a lot of different sidelines and been at different sporting events,
even music events. It's just always I don't know, I've
just never For me, I've never been into spending money though,
So I don't know. We're the same mess every day.
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I do the same stuff every day. I don't really
do much of anything at all except work.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm a workaholic. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
But I will say this, if it's something that I
wanted to do, I want to be able to do it.
So if I did want to go fly to New
York and go or go to Jersey and see the game,
I would have found a way to go. If my
wife and my kids, if they wanted to do it,
we would have found a way to go.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
I mean, what would you be willing to pay? All right?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Well, like, what would the most you would be willing
to pay to go to the game yesterday to watch
Spain versus Argentina.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't want to do it
at all. What would I have to pay is different
than what would I be willing to buy.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
I look at it like.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
This, look at it, and this is some wild stuff,
because this could this is the type of stuff that
happens in my life. You want to know why a
guy like me would go broke? You want to know
how I would go bankrupt. Okay, you're saying, those are
ten thousand dollars. If my daughters wanted to go to
the game and they talked their mother into wanting to
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go to the game, or my son and his girlfriend
was like, oh, they want to go to the game,
and then that meant that my other son wants to
go to the game.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Did you do the counting here?
Speaker 6 (45:18):
So three daughters, one wife, two sons, and a girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
How many is that seven? Okay? Is that seven? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Okay, seventy thousand dollars? And I have to go, and
I have to go, and I have to go eighty
thousand dollars, and.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Not just on tickets. Yeah, so, but everybody has to
fly in.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
So now you're talking plane tickets, you're talking hotel rooms,
you're talking food, Yeah, that's my reality. It's just that
that's why. And we've talked about this before. The TV
viewing experience at home is so good. Now to leave
me the hell alone experience is the best thing. Yeah.
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I just look, I don't I don't see any sporting
event and think to myself, I gotta be there, live, bro,
I be stressed out.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Penn State, outside of Penn State, because everybody knows me.
So I get my I get my shuttle right up
to the stadium, I get out, I go to my tailgate,
I do my tailgate. My tailgate's right there, I walk
right in. Everybody knows me. We're all family. It's simple.
But for some strange reason, when people are with you,
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that acts as stressful from day one to being finished.
So my wife and kids are there, it's stressful the
whole entire time. If it's any other sporting event where
I don't have that type of familiarity and set up,
the whole thing is stressful.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Hot like, and I say high level is high level anxiety, dude? Yeah? Like,
it's just trying to get in they bro.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
That's why my favorite sports venue is Wriggley Field where
the Cubs play, because the public transportation, you can.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
I know the Red Line, I know where to get on.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
It drops you off literally right across the street from
the from the stadium.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
And if you have, you.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
Know, anything with you, if you if you have a kid,
and we took my son when he was real young,
we had a stroller with us. Literally, there's a stroller
check right around the corner from the ballpark. Because it's
in Wrigley Fields in a community, like it's in like
a neighborhood, so it's so easy to get to to
navigate around. You go to some of these other giant
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stadiums like so far, like some of these massive stadiums.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Yeah, man, it is. It is anxiety.
Speaker 4 (47:56):
Anxiety and being at your tailgate, don't nobody care, and
being at your tailgate. That was easy because it's right
across the streetcross the street, and like literally right across
from the main And when we had to leave early
to go back to the airport, right there on the
road to the straight, the shuttle took us right there.
So that's ideal. But those my people that I had
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that came and got you, Yeah, yeah, bruh, they went straight,
they came. They because it's there's a barricade, like the
ground raises like you can't get past this unless you're.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
With the school.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
And then that barricade comes down and they'll come in
and they'll get you.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
So you're welcome, But there's up with us that thank you.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
It took you straight straight to the Airport's super easy,
easy button. That's why I don't do not nowhere else.
I don't do nothing anywhere else. I love my people, man,
they love me. But the problem with a lot of
these new stadiums is they're so difficult to get in
and out that I think that that that's the other
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part that people don't factor in is Man, there was
a preseason game a Niners, was it not? It was Rams?
I forget who they were playing in a preseason game.
Parking was one hundred dollars for a preseason football game.
And that's not including what it is to get into
the stadium, to be able to navigate through La in traffic,
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and it's just the whole thing's a pain in the aird.
That's why when they see these prices, people are paying.
Speaker 6 (49:30):
I went to a Rams game when Jay Loketto was
playing for Arizona, and he invited us and I was.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
It was.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Super stressful. Yeah, it's just just crazy stressful.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
So when you bring up the point that, yeah, you're
talking ten thousand dollars a ticket, you're not factoring in
how many other people are going with you, the flight
to get in all of I don't understand when these
stadiums continue to get built. I don't understand how there
isn't more of an emphasis on, Hey, how can we
make this an easier experience for people to get in
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and out of them. Look, Dodger Stadium's awesome, Dodger Stadium
is a pain in the ass to get in and
out of. Like, and that's why when people criticize Dodger
fans and they say, well, you know you you arrive
late and you leave early.
Speaker 3 (50:16):
You kind of have to.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Like if you if you're working or you're trying to
get something done, by the time you get on the
road and you're stuck in traffic to try and battle
stadium way to get to the get to the ballpark,
it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And then to get.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
Through it, they should build it in the sky, just
less traffic. Build it in the sky, or build it underground,
you know what I mean? Build it and then you
can part, you know, and then it's like you got
to go into it.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
So it's kind of not the same.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
But that's why people stay home and watch games. That's
why if you have a good TV setup, if you
have if you work it through my head right now,
if you have a good if it was in the sky,
they it wouldn't be able to breathe. It'd be like
playing in male high if it was underground. Does it
really make it easier to get into it? Probably not,
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by the way. You know, the older I get, the
more I understand the man cave because there's something so
safe about it. Yeah, and comfortable, and it's exactly how
you want it.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
And it doesn't matter where it is.
Speaker 6 (51:25):
Like you say man cave, like you could turn your
garage into a man cave. Like my next door neighbor
has a man cave where he's got his weights in there,
he's got his music in there, and he's got his
TV in there, and he's got this thing. We ended
up going and getting some because you seem I drive by,
I see him.
Speaker 3 (51:43):
He just sits in his driveway just rocking.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
They got these like beach seats that are like rocking chairs.
So now I got I got me a couple like,
I'd go down to the beach. I'd just be rocking
like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Rocking. See you pray.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
You probably tell your grandparents or your man like, why
isn't rock?
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Then you do it now?
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Man, When I be watching the games, I'd be watching there,
watching them games.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I'd be rocking like crazy. Bruh.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
There's something about rocking yourself that totally like satisfies whatever
it is I got going on.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Your baby rock them, Yeah, there's something about it.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Man. I'd be sitting there rocking like a son of
a gun bro, just rocking. But you go to a game.
Can't do that in the game. Just you're cramped here.
It's said that you're seeing your grand your needs be
up in your chest.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Man. They gotta make they gotta make the uh.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
The stadium experience as good as the at home or
close to as good as the at home experience. When
you do that, you got a shot. Until then, I
just it blows my mind. People pay the prices they
do to go to some of these games. I just
I don't understand it. But anyway, congratulations to all involved. Also,
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I don't know if you did if you saw this.
But the nfl PA they have figured out a solution
because you know, they're not happy about the fact that
the World Cup had all these great grass surfaces that
they were playing in on the conversation, So the nfl
PA they launched a social media campaign with the hashtag
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worth the cost, with numerous players calling for natural grass
to be installed in all stadiums instead of turf. So
I'm sure that's going to get it done. I'm sure
that'll that'll be the one that convinces owners. It's that
that big social media campaign they came up with.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Sure he'll be the one.
Speaker 4 (53:50):
Okay, it's all right man, All right, guys, how about
the next time you're you're trying to get a new
CBA or you're trying to you know, argue for something,
how about you do it then and don't take to
social media before then, you know, like, if they're going
to stand your ground, stand your ground with the negotiations,
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not on social media, because the owners don't give a crap.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
They don't care.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
They're not they're not reading your social media thinking, you
know what, we've got to go ahead and put natural
grass in because those guys took to Instagram and TikTok
to let us know they're not happy like it. Just
it feels like you're you're you continue to go down
this road and it's not going to fix anything. But
you know, we'll see I mean, and if you got
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to complain about it, you know, then then then drive
over and do something about it, you know, take a drive,
take a commute over there.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
He want us to take a drive over there?
Speaker 4 (54:44):
All right, well then we'll take We'll take a drive then,
I mean, if you take us the break, well or
do you want me to just do a Menson?
Speaker 3 (54:52):
You want me to do a mention?
Speaker 4 (54:54):
That's not.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
See it?
Speaker 4 (54:57):
I do see it. I got a big one next
next break, y'all. I thought I was waiting on the
next break to do this. But let me let give
you a little Let me give you a little little appetizer.
Speaker 6 (55:08):
And speaking of it's a respect appetizer. And then if
you want to pick up that's built to do the
job without making a fuss.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
That's the song Frontier.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
It's built for the work weekend. Ready to load up
that tailgate on the weekends. The twenty twenty six Nissan
Frontier not bad, I thought, I had the big one.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
I was I was waiting to do the big read.
The new friend was all warm. I was all warmed up.
Speaker 4 (55:38):
Hey, you see the homie on on on the joint
right here right like now, they trying to confuse you,
like they switching things up, Like what do you mean
they should be over here on this one, but they
are over here on this one.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
You know what I mean? What are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (55:50):
Now?
Speaker 4 (55:50):
I ain't gonna get into no new got him down
here in the lower corner right there, like they like
they little cross promote.
Speaker 3 (55:58):
They share it. Yeah, they share it. It's that old
ESPN NFL network split.
Speaker 4 (56:03):
Yeah, using past Yeah, dang like Lorena and Lee No No, I.
Speaker 3 (56:13):
Just I just I just had to do it, loren No.
Speaker 4 (56:17):
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