The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Brady Quinn & LaVar Arrington go in depth on the new NFL coaching challenge ruling which allows sideline staff to use the challenge flag instead of the Head Coach. Plus, the guys discuss the Bills news stadium, Highmark Stadium, and how it has seats with obstructed views in some areas, chat with Pete Prisco, and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
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This you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I love Mark.
How you've kept this thing pretty funky. Huh. Just keep
with the Players Club. Yeah, I'm Brady Quinn, He's LeVar Arrington.
We're two pros. That's right. No Jonas this week and

(00:43):
at least the rest of the week, but we'll bringing
you tuesday. P d that Las.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
You know, we had to put him on ice. Too
many fines, you know what I mean. People are getting
upset about me saying ten dollars, But Jonas is just
a he's just a crew. Too many, too many fine,
so we have to sitting down, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like just so just so our listeners know, Jonas
is approaching about two hundred dollars in fines, which is
well above anyone else in the show besides Patty, which
Patty did take a couple on the chin of late,
but that is over three thousand Mexican pesos. As we
want to make sure we do the currency exchange right there.

(01:23):
But yes, Jonas has put himself in quite the whole.
He will he might be buying an entire dinner himself
when it comes to Super Bowl this year in LA,
speaking of the Super Bowl in LA, speaking of the NFL,
the NFL Coaches Challenge, They've added a little wrinkle into
this LeVar, and I'm kind of I'm wondering what you
think the origin of this is, but also just what

(01:44):
you think about it. So, the NFL is changing up
its replay challenges in the sense that it will allow
head coaches now designate a sideline staffer a member to
initiate a replay challenge by throwing in the red flag.
But the officials must know which member, who it is
uh and who or who's been designated for this task

(02:06):
before the start of the game. So I'm thinking to myself,
is this purely because we've had so many coaches who've
had an issue just grabbing the red flag out of
their sock or out of their sweatshirt or jacket or
whatever it is. Or do you think this always should
have been the case, that it's maybe too much for
a head coach's calling plays to manage that wherever the
hell that little red beanie bag you know thing is.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's exactly what it is, right, and let's take it
a step further. I would I would most certainly have
them on hit set where they're spotters watching, Like how
you know when we're in the booth, you do the gang.
You got spotter watching for the small details of what happens.
I might have more than one, and if something goes wrong,

(02:53):
that guy needs to grab that red flag and he
needs to go the people that are making the decision
they should have like you know, like how we got
all these AI agents being made these days. Now they
need to have an AI agent, you know, maybe like
I don't know, four or five agents that are taking
the footage real time because the feed can come through

(03:15):
real time at the game here you throw red flag, boom,
send it down to that quick. I took away too complicated,
But the point I'm making is, yes, I think it's
a good move because the head coach should be focusing
in on whatever their duties, you know what they are.
Some coaches are calling plays, some coaches, I don't know

(03:39):
what some coaches are doing on the sideline. I'm not sure,
but I will say, can they have the best vantage
point a replay situation, in the situation or in the
position that they're in. Maybe sometimes maybe sometimes they'll see
it and they go But for the most part, don't
they throw the red flag after people run up to

(04:01):
them and tell them to throw throw the red flag?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Or they hear it and like, oh.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Right, so why not just designate somebody else to do
that and then go from there. I mean, obviously the
head coach is going to hear it in his headphones
that they're going to challenge it anyway, so it's not
like he's going to be in the dark about it.
So I don't I don't find I don't have any
issues what it will you think?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I don't have any issues with it. I'm wondering why
it always wasn't this way, you know, why they wanted
to just purely put this on the head coach if
they feel like this is something that they didn't want
you know something to do it by accident or the
head coach to I mean, because here's what I could
foresee happening, is it gets thrown out there because maybe
it's communicated from the booth. Hey, you should you should
review this, we should, you know, make sure we challenge this,

(04:48):
and and then you end up having a situation where
the head coach I told him not to throw it
at that dropped out or if you know, you make
some sort of excuse because you come to find out
maybe maybe you should have thrown the flag in the
first place. I just I feel like that sort of
scenario could present itself a little bit. I'm not against it.
I think I think it's be funny, like, what are

(05:08):
the qualifications for that guy being the guy to throw
the red fly? Red?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Little like this would be like a perfect Connor Stallions
type of jobs have, right, Like you're a professional at
being able to look across and see things and collect
the data on it and accurate enough where your team
could win a national title.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
So I think the criteria is somebody who has.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
A really really keen eye to where the red flag
situations may take place, like from pre snap to the
snapping of the ball to Okay, this is the play.
It's a run play. I'm going to be more focused in.
I'm first of all, I'm gonna be focused in on
the line of scrimmage period, all right. But secondly, if

(05:52):
I know it's a pass, then from the time like now,
I got to figure out, am I watching for holts
or or whatever it may be from the defense line
or the offensive line? Am I looking for pass interference
both offensively and defensively. That's why to me, I feel
like you got to have a team, right. You gotta
have guys like not a fall guy, a spotter guy.

(06:14):
You gotta have guys that can look at multiple things.
I would have one group or one guy designated to
watching the receivers. I have one guy designated to watching
the box and watching what's going on inside of there.
And if something were to happen egregious, like a receiver
gets thrown down to the ground, they didn't make the

(06:34):
call red flag it, you.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Know what I mean, Like one of those type things.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
But I don't know that this is a singular person
that could actually do it. I almost feel like you
have to have a team of spotters that are connected
to this one person. That has the It's almost like
he doesn't even have the autonomy to throw the red flag.
You're just basically saying he's the designated person that's going
to throw the flag when they say the flag.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, it's it's like a dees dated hitter, like you know,
here there, he's being told when to go in and hits.
He's not like just stepping up there and walking out
there and doing it. I do wonder what the qualifications are.
I'm like, do you need somebody who actually can sling
it out there pretty good or throw it at the
official and to get his attention.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
They gotta have no fear. They gotta have zero fear,
you know what I mean. They got to be a
fearless person. They should most likely be a former quarterback
so that the form they spin it, like you start
spinning that red flag out there, you know what I mean,
and get style points for it. Like we look at
like the what is it called the Banana League, like
the Banana Hannahs or what what's it called?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Savannah bananas? The Savannah bananas. You say banana hammers, but
the banana Hannah's. I think you're watching some other league,
but I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't know, but I think they should be dressed
up in a very colorful Neon color type outfit so
that you can see them.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
They're very easily sounds like he's down under baseball. There
you go. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I think there should be like a backflip or a
cartwheel of some sort of summer sault, something that gets
the attention of everybody, and then they throw that rear
flag and let it, let it, let it real quick.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
On that note, I want Patty and Mark to coming
for a second here because I do feel like it
should be recognized we have been on radio for over
an hour. Jonas nor Loraina are here today and there
hasn't been one piece of explicit content in our radio show.
So if there's any blame to go around, it should
go on Loraina and Jonas. Yeah, is that fair? Pat

(08:35):
and Mark? Honestly not valid? I think so. There you go?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well up at this time, do you hear anything? So
I'm not sure what other content of events somebody getting to.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
This is the time when I run this show.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But but Mark, this is the time for that type
of content, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's for me the law just venture there by accident.
But you know, it feels Jonas would have jerked me
onto a day I could still be talking about. I
didn't say hammer. I said banana Hannah.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I always think that the East Coast people are up
so's it's not really any kind of safetime because they're
just getting up. So if you're going to break their
ears by hearing something, that's you know, that's on everybody.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, Okay, all I'll say is I said banana Hannah.
I was trying to have to rhyme banana with something else,
that's all. I almost said hammock to your point, but
I did not. I did not venture to banana hammock.
I did banana Hannah.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, not away. For the record, we've been able to
stand the straight and narrow and part because neither Lorena
or Jonas is here. I want you to clip this off, Patty.
You can sentence it both of them if you'd like.
But that is where the explicit rating comes from if
you listen to our podcast. I'm taking no part in
this whatsoever. For the record. For the record, the influence

(10:00):
is real. One you hear it. I'm off here to
put a cap on the conversation. Regards to this NFL
coach challenge, I do feel like this does open it
up for a little bit of controversy. I'm just saying.
I mean, if something happens to that guy, that designated guy,
there's any miscommunication that you know, the flag falls out,

(10:21):
the officials like, ah, did you throw it? He's like yeah,
no maybe. Like I just I feel like, if it's
not the head coach, you know, is this person going
to be subject to interviews after the game, you know,
if something controversial does have I don't know, but I'm
not sure why they felt this was needed outside of
coaches being like dude, I don't want to have to
find this thing wherever I put it, you know, whether

(10:42):
it's on my hip or in a pocket or you know,
around my ankle, like some of the coaches would use. No,
I just give it to someone else. Lets someone else.
Do someone have to deal with this. You mentioned Connor Stallions,
by the way, I feel like that would be more
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mention that came up in the news was Seattle has
now opened the door for potentially putting in grass there luminfield.

(11:25):
For those of you that are Seattle Seahawks fans, it's turf.
It's actually a good turf field. It's an incredible stadium. However,
following the World Cup, there was a lot of push
from NFL players who looked at their NFL owners and said,
wait a second, you're willing to sell out these stadiums
and go ahead and throw in grass because that's what
FIFA wants, but you won't do it for us. So

(11:46):
it looks like maybe the new Seattle Seahawks owner, vanad Kosla,
he's left the door open for permanently converting Lumenfield from
artificial turf to natural grass, which would be awesome for
the dudes in Seattle. Uh. And I'm just I'm kind
of curious. Do you care about this at this point?
Do you listen to the players complain about it and
just say this is something you should have negotiated to

(12:08):
CBA or do you or is this is this a
real thing where you're like happy to see progress?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I think it's progress.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I think it's I mean the fact that an owner
would come out and just say it out out loud.
I think it's progress because you you you got to
acknowledge it before you can come up with, you know,
a plan or a solution, and it just takes one. Now,
it's it's interesting because it's the new owner, right, so
you're coming into a league where it's a very very

(12:40):
established and very uh, family driven, if at least historically speaking,
it's getting a little bit away from that now, but
it's been a very very uh and I don't want
to say in session was what what am I going for?
When the whole family is is part part of something?
What's the word for that? I mean, I mean there's nepotism,

(13:02):
but nepotism there we go. It's a whole lot of
nepotism that's connected to Thank you. My mind is a
little gone today and so to me, for it to
be a new owner to do it, I think it's
interesting because then it makes you ask the question like huh,
Like if a new owner could come in and see
it to say we should think about doing it, and

(13:23):
I'm open to doing it. Why aren't these other owners
saying the same exact thing, and why aren't they Why
haven't they already led the way? I mean, I can
remember when we were doing the reeds for grass, and
that's been what two years or so ago. I mean,
at some point an owner needed to step up and

(13:43):
be like, the welfare and the safety of the players
is super crazy important. If we don't have the players,
we don't have what we have, We don't have the
game the way.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
That it is. Of course we're going to put grass in.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Somebody should have been a trailblazer or stand up and
say this is the right thing to do. I don't
think that you should let this one fall on deaf airs.
I think it's certainly one of those those one things
in terms of the work environment, you would want you
would want to make sure that you're giving them the
best surface and the best opportunities to have success.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
So I don't think.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I do think that it has the potential of people,
especially you know, internally, getting tone deaf to it. But
I mean, when something like this happens and then it
hits the you know it hits the media circuit, it
brings it back to everybody's frontal lobe and it becomes
something that's front of mind, and it's like, oh, yeah,
the World Cup was a big deal and they did

(14:38):
and make all not one game was played on field turf,
And you got to ask yourself the question, if if
you could do that for this tournament that came into town,
why can't you do that for the guys that are
filling the stadium up, you know, eight nine times out
of the year.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Just seems a little strange. So here's but never understand
about these conversations is aren't the owners in like hand
in hand with players on this? And I say that
in the sense of wouldn't you want them to play
on a service that eliminates their injury risk? I mean
you're giving them millions of dollars in guarantees. I mean
you're paying I mean, so if a guy ends up injured,

(15:18):
you know, yes, there could be a salary split with
this and his contract. You might even say, well, hey,
I have an insurance policy to protect against that. I
would imagine there's some degree and insurance. These insurance policies
are different if you're playing on grass versus on turf.
Maybe not, you know, maybe it's just one overarching but
if I.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Would get one, we would get you would get I
know you knowing you, I mean, I know I would
I would get extra insurance based off of especially with
all the information that's connected to it. An insurance broker
would take that personal a person.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, And look, teams will do it too, because they're
shilling out a lot of guaranteed dollars into these contracts
that they would to be protected from the downside of
that as well. My point is, if you're playing on
artificial turf versus grass, I would assume there's going to
be probably a greater likelihood of eventually an injury happening
on turf before grass. So that's more of what I'm

(16:12):
saying is it may even be more expensive for you.
So even though it's more expensive to maintain grass, if
it's in the best interest of your players, keep them healthy,
giving you a chance to win, you giving me a
chance for them to stay healthy. Meanwhile, you're investing all
this money into them. Wouldn't you think that would be
smart to go ahead and say, why don't we do
what's in the best interest of our players, our employees.

(16:33):
I mean, if you were at the top of any company,
isn't that what you're always trying to do. I mean,
I know you want to cut costs and be more
efficient and optimize, but you know that's not the way
most corporations would try to handle their business if they
felt like they were doing something that would subject their
employees to not be able to produce at the highest

(16:55):
level or put them in harm's way. Like It's always
an interesting discussion because when you take get out of
these the context of sport and you say, well, would
any any owner of any business say no, no, no,
I want my employees to work in a more dangerous environment,
or I want them to have a greater likelihood of
getting injured just so I can save a little bit here,

(17:15):
and then on top of that, you know, maybe I
can do some more events things like that around it.
It's like maybe, I mean, maybe, maybe there are some
guys out there who don't care about their employees, aren't
as ethical, and there's a world for them to live
in that. But I'd sit there and say, I think
most owners would like to see their company thrive, their
employees thrive. They love to work there, and this kind

(17:35):
of falls in that category of yeah, go to grass then,
like you just showcased the ability for all these NFL
stadiums to do it, so why not appease the players.
But again, this probably goes back to the negotiations of
a lot of the owners in saying, hey, you collectively
bargain it so that way, when we want to go
to eighteen games, this can be one of the ways

(17:56):
we get there. We give you, guys all grass fields,
you get eighteen game games, and that way we can
make even more money. In the bottom line, it all
comes back to the CBA in the end.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Then the Cardinals get it, right, I mean, don't they
wheel it in or don't they like yeah, like pull
it outside, get it some nice sun and some draft
apps from that Arizona air and then then roll it
right on back into the stadium and play like why
when every stadium think of doing it that way?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Right? Like, why not? I don't. I don't get it.
I think it's more difficult than people think. And just
even on that note, it's not like having a grass
field doesn't come with some you know issues, like people
have talked about how the turf can be slicked sometimes
depending on the venue. I like the humidity of of
that that specific stadium inside, Like there are guys who

(18:45):
have to put on different cleats and whatnot. So again,
I'm just more for all grass. I know you're for grass.
I've seen you celebrate a variety of ways.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, I'll roll it up. You ain't live, I'll roll
it up.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'll grab some of them them blades up and grind
them up and roll them up, light them up.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
That's what I'm saying. I mean, in a variety of ways.
You're all for grass.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I mean, hey, hey man, nature natural, be natural man.
That thing was put here, That grass was put here
for you and for me. Was there field turf back
in the day. Imagine that like field turf. Come on, man,
there wasn't no field turf back in the day. There
was grass. So so stick the grass. That's all I'm saying,

(19:31):
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in the iHeart app, so we always pop up right
there on the top of your screen. Easy enough. Somehow, LeVar,
it's not easy enough to build a stadium where you're
able to provide views to every single seat in the stadium. Hi,
mark the Bill's new stadium, Harmark Stadium. I'm not sure

(21:51):
if you've seen some of the photos on social media
from the obstructed views by fans, But how in twenty
six how with the millions upon millions of dollars that
are spent on these stadiums, is every single seat not
able to see the entire field?

Speaker 6 (22:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Is that just? Is it just a message to fans?
Like that's how little the owners care about you is
like you sit in that seat, You're not the same
as the other guys. You're not the same as the
guys in the suites. Is that what we've gotten to
or is this just like oversight or is this one
of those architects that lives in his own world and
then he creates this beautiful stadium where he walks out

(22:34):
and goes, oh, yeah, that guy can only see what
one half of this end zone. Oh well, I guess
it won't bother that guy. You know, that doesn't matter
that much, does it. He is the architect and the
people involved just so out of touch with being able
to view what a football game and everything you need
to see.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh, when you get into the size of these these
massive structures that are just for a viewing spectacle, I
always find it to be a tab bit curious when
you talk about the upper deck.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I just always have felt that way.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Now, obstructed views, that's what what what that's like one
of those how did you miss that in the planning
type deals?

Speaker 1 (23:21):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Like I could understand being in the like I was
out a seat in uh and so far where we
were so high, I could see the top of the
stadium like in the stadiums like a little covering over it.
I felt like I could touch the top of the
stadium with my hand. I was so high up right,
And I just feel like the viewing, the viewing experience

(23:46):
the further away is to me, it's just you're there
for the spectacle of it more so than kind of
the details of how the game goes, because it's.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Just so hard to see.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But when you talk about I mean, obviously, if it's
obstructive views, they're going to have to do away with
those seats, right. You can't sell seats to somebody that
the views are obstructed if I if I haven't seen
a photo of it, but just if I read it correctly, Yeah,
obstructive views, you just you got to do away with

(24:19):
the You got to cover them seats up, or I
take them out. I take the seats out because I
just woul want to have the continued pressure of the
fact that we actually bolted down seats that have an
out obstructive view.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I just it wouldn't be a good look.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
But I would, however, auction off those seats and call
them the obscure seats of the new stadium.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's what I would do. So here's what's really interesting
about this. The official fixed seating capacity of the of
Heimar Citium is like sixty eight which actually makes the
smallest venue in the NFL by a fixed seat count.
Now with standing room areas, and I believe they can
expand capacity from what reports are saying, it can get

(25:07):
up to somewhere around sixty six thousand, which I believe
puts in the category still able to host a Super
Bowl if they'd want for that. But the old stadium
held about seventy one thousand, so they're actually dropping about
ten thousand seats for this new stadium. And I sit

(25:28):
there and go, well, how do you not have great
viewing capacity from every seat? Then it's not like it's bigger.
You just found ways of obstructing the views with what
you have. And I only draw this comparison to Northwestern's
new Field because they have a relatively new stadium too,
Ryan Field, And if you saw the reports about that,

(25:49):
they also actually went from a forty seven thousand, five
hundred seat stadium in the old place back in the
old Brianfield, to thirty five thousand, so they also decreased
in size that happens to be the smallest seating capacity
to big ten. There is not one bad seat in
that entire place. Like they figured out how to do it,
and if you've seen the renderings of it, every single

(26:12):
seat and its view of the actual field itself is incredible.
I don't know why more NFL teams don't look at
at least some of the models that you know Ryan
Field used at Northwestern, which was based on more of
the soccer stadiums. But when you see it, you go, oh,
this is perfect, Like there's not a bad seat in
the house. And then meanwhile, we've gotten buffalo somehow, you know,

(26:34):
ramps and entrances, things that are obstructing it. We've got
other seating that are uncombing views of the end zone.
It's just it's wild to me. And I don't know
how you justify it as an NFL fan when you
purchase a ticket like this and this is the respect
that gets thrown back your way. How did they unfold?

Speaker 6 (26:54):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:54):
How did this unfold? Do you have the details on
how it like for me? All right?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
They maybe it seems as though the reports say they
maybe made a mistake when they were looking at the
virtual rendings or renderings of the stadium.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
But the stadium is now complete.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Right they got six weeks before, and the seats are sold.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
So the whole idea of it is is did.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Y'all not have somebody making sure that all of these
seats were what they were supposed to be, every view
was what I mean. I would think that the people
who built it would have made sure that they sat
in every seat and then went back to the people
who paid for it and said you know what, or

(27:40):
well the owners of the team and said, you know,
we had to make a few adjustments here, we had
to make a few adjustments there when you put the
seat in. I just don't understand how did it get
to this point before it was understood that this was
an obscured, you know, druck the corner of the stadium.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
That seems change to me. The first is there's most
likely some oversight of the safety regulations needed, whether it's
you know, coming up the stairs and I just said,
you a photo where you've got four different looks at him,
But I just I look at it and say it's
because ultimately they don't care. I mean, they want to
get this thing opening and rolling and if it ends up,

(28:25):
you know, providing poor seating for a handful of fans
or twenty fans or so where these seats look like
they're located. They're not the fans they're ultimately concerned about.
They'll find someone else a breezeway. They're like getting the
walkway to get to the seats. That's what I'm saying.
It's like we could have just done without some of them,
you know, I like this is and look, Buffalo fans

(28:47):
are incredible fans. They're amazing fans in my opinion, they
deserve better. Like there shouldn't be any one of them
that's jumping through a table before the game to tailgate
that doesn't get a good view of the field, or
shouldn't for that matter. I mean, again, this is a
brand new stadium. It blows my mind there still can happen.
And I hope whoever bought those tickets, I hope they

(29:09):
get a discount, they get a refund, they get something.
I mean, maybe it's a maybe a football I take
to Josh Allen signed Jersey. They got to move them.
You can't. You can't lose being in the stadium that way.
I mean, by the way, what was I wrong in
how I described it for you. I mean, the one
you can barely see half the end zone. The other

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one you're missing probably about twenty percent of the field.
The other one's blocked by a clear railing. That's the
nearest stairway that you're really not able to see really
much of the field at all, as far as in
plain view. I mean, this is not just one folks,
this is multiple views, multiple spots where you're saying, like,

(29:53):
how did then I think about this?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
You got to move them and you got to give
them an upgraded experience. It's because you don't want it
to turn into a pr thing. It's already being discussed, obviously,
we're discussing it. But I think you got to move them.
You got to upgrade their experience so that you can
get a very nice review from from those particular fans

(30:16):
that had the obscure seats.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
In some way, form or fashion, you'd have to assume
that their misfortune of purchasing the wrong seats actually turned
out to be an investment in most likely getting a
better upgraded experience and going to see a Bill's game.
So sorry that you went through it, but I'm hoping
that on the flip side of it, it worked out

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for all of you fans that got tickets in the
obscure seats.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I will actually say this though, I actually wanted to
be a PR campaign. I want one of those great
wing places. I don't care if it's anchor bar, I
don't care who you are. Just offer them, in exchange
for that seat, lifetime wings. That would be InCred Like,
there's got to be some PR move out of this
where someone can capitalize some again, it could be the

(31:07):
Buffalo Wings, one of those bars somewhere. Someone's got to
take the bullet and actually take these tickets, but in
exchange give them something back that they'll truly be able
to enjoy the rest of their life. Like that is
that is where I think we make out good here.
I don't think it's just like a signed jersey from
Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Where about that they gotta give them. They got to
give them better seats too, though, That's the thing about
That's what I'm thinking. They got to give them better seats.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
And well, I would assume they're they're all sold out,
they're all sold up. They got it.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
They they got to have an allotment that that they
can do some stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
They got it. How how many seats do you think
it is? It's what would you are that are? You know?
From the one photo it looks like almost that whole
row that that's missing half the end zone, Like I
don't know, there's a wall there, Like I don't know
how any of them are people to see the one
half of the end zone. I mean, could you imagine,

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just imagine the Buffalo Bills are hosting the AFC Championship
game and there's a pass down the right sideline Kean
Coleman side whoever pick your favorite Bills receiver tied on
running back and they catch the ball in the corner
of the end zone. It looks like from this photo
there's like five or six fans who are up against
the wall will have no clue what happened. And also

(32:23):
not trying to disparage the Jumbo Trons, a little underwhelming,
like for a stadium of that size of being this
new little underwhelming. I mean again, I know Dallas is
inside everything else, you still could come out with a
gigantic screen of some sort that more people could see
in the stadium. Maybe that was where they made the concession.

(32:43):
They're worried about the screen blocking people's view, and so
they went with it. We'll just have, you know, some
of the walls, some of the structures blocked the view.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hey, look at it this way. Maybe it just serves
as a warning shot for the other teams. Aren't there
a few other teams? I know Washington's trying to move
back into DC, Chicago's trying to move out of Chicago
to get their new.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Stadium, or maybe they will get it in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And I believe Tennessee is planning on on building a
new one as well. I mean, just look at it.
You live and you learn, right, Like Pagoula, he's one
of my guys. So I don't want to go too deep,
but I was just gonna say, this is a friendly
territory for you. You can't be too critical here.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Oh my god, I can't. I can't.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, his hand doesn't feed me. We're we shake hands,
we're hand in hands, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, we've got some other news to get back to,
some other former players joining some of some college teams.
But uh, speaking of this sting in the world of football,
let's let's go to the college football world for a moment. Uh.
Coming up next on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Uh,
we got a national champion. We have a national champion

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crowned earlier this week. You're not gonna believe who it is, though.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Be sure to catch live edition and some Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington
and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
And we're right back to its mark there, Yeah, Martin
money More, It's two Pros, no Cup of Joe this week.
Jonas is out the rest of the week. We'll be
missing him, but he's enjoying some time off. Well deserved too,
I might add. And as much as I wanted the

(34:34):
song to continue to play, it's time to welcome in
our guest, the one and only Pete Prisco. He's a
senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst
as well, and Pete has been traveling around the NFL.
He was in Green Bay most recently. He's got some
trips coming up soon as well. But Pete, thanks for

(34:57):
joining us today. How you doing hi, Pete?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
What's up, guys? How are you Jonas on vacation? I
took a little time off little R and R.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Did he Yeah, yeah, it's good for him. He's trying
to create memories with the kids. Yeah, I forget that'd
be part time. See that's LeVar is like, he's got
one left. So he's like, I'm over this. I've done
it with four others. I'm over this now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
But he's only got one, so he gets no twes,
he gets no he gets no love from.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Me, Pete. You know what I mean? Well, he's only
got one, just like you. You don't get any love either,
Pete Prisco.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
And you never give me a love, LeVar.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That is true. There's a lot of back and forth
going on here, Pete. We were talking earlier about the
high Mark Stadium. Not only one, it's the smallest venue
for fixed seating. But then, how do you possibly have
obstructed views in a stadium that's built in twenty twenty six?
I don't get it. Can you help me understand it?
Are you going to Buffalo at some point soon?

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Well? I was actually in Rochester because they trained in
Rochester for a couple of days last week, and I
didn't see the new They were going there to practice
the next day on have that you know, first little
whatever they do that nighttime thing they do the next night,
and everybody's excited about it. They were nervous, but clearly,
what the hell did the architecture do? I mean the

(36:15):
architect I mean, what what.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Did he do?

Speaker 6 (36:17):
How do you how do you think?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
We can't think he jumped he jumped through a table
at some point, maybe hit his head and forgot that
they should make sure all all the fans were able
to actually see the entire field, and it just it
seems like that maybe got overlooked at some point here,
you know what, Brady.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
Somebody told me, And this surprised me a little bit.
Somebody out there, I asked, because they have personal seat
licenses and they sold them, which I thought that would
be a tough sell for them because of you know,
it's not actually a huge city, but I guess people
come from Toronto and all over.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
But they sold them.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
And they're making a lot of money on those seat licenses,
and you pay those and then you got to pay
for the tickets. So look, they needed a new stadium.
The stadium looks beautiful. Other than the obstructed views. And
can you imagine if you paid a bunch of money
to get an obstructed view seat, I would just absolutely
go back and say, look, I'm not sitting in the seat.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
No way they got they gotta do something to correct it.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
I just think that that's a bad look if if
they don't, what's your idea about Let me.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
Ask you this because I haven't been like upsitting in
the stadium in a long time. What do they do
now in the new stadiums with the like when they
put the railings in, because you got to have the railings.
It's clear you gotta have railings, So what do you do?
Put clear glass on them?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Is that what they do? Well?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I do have clear glass railings in the photos that
that that Q sent out to me. This clear glass
like windows, but no state metal.

Speaker 6 (37:39):
That holds the glass up. It looks like that's why
they can't see. But what do you do? How do
you I mean for safety reasons, you might have to
have that depth, So what do you do?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
How about not put a seat behind something where if
you sit down you can't see over it?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like that would be what I would think.

Speaker 6 (37:54):
This sort you guys have gone to a concert venue
where they sell it and it says obstructed.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
View seat, right, Yeah, yeah, I've seen that before.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Yeah yeah, So I mean maybe, you know, maybe that's
what they do with that. I don't know. Look, it
looked terrible. Can you imagine paying that money to sit
there and watch that. It's awful. And everybody always says, well,
you can watch the boards when you go to game
to watch the game. You don't go to watch the boards,
you go to watch the game. So I sympathize those people.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I will say this Dallas the Stadium, that that's fricking
screens so big, man, it's hard not to It's like
it actually kind of catches your eye more than the
field does. And that's a massive when you're doing a
game there.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
There's no question about that.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Brady.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
I agree with you one hundred percent. You kind of,
you know, you kind of catch yourself looking up and down.
You're going like, you know, okay, I want to look
at the field. I want to see it the up
all twenty two vision version of it. But I also
look at that and you go, oh my gosh, that
thing is so clear and so big. You do find
yourself looking at it.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
That was The other thing people will bring attention to
is how small, how small the scoreboards are that the
new stadium. Did you hear that or notice that out there?

Speaker 6 (39:00):
Well, no, they're not very big. I was because most
people most stadiums now have gone to those, you know,
massive scoreboards, and that one did not Those two on
the end did not look very big. Now I couldn't tell.
Is there another one in there somewhere? I couldn't tell that.
But you do not look very big.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I think if you can't tell that, that's probably telling
enough if that's the Jason.

Speaker 6 (39:19):
But you know, I thought different angles of it. You know,
it was more and more of the people complaining about
their obstructed views at this scoreboard.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
What did you see? What did you see from Buffalo
when when you were there, when you were watching them.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
More aggression, more aggressive on defense. Yeah, And I think
Jim Leonard is going to do that. I mean, he's
going to throw a bunch of different looks at you.
He's going to attack you a bunch of different ways.
But Sean McDermott really did a hell of a job
in Buffalo. You can't take that away from him. And
he's going to be a good coach at his next stop.
But the reality is it probably got stale and things

(39:52):
needed to change a little bit. You go back to
that Denver playoff game. You're in third and ten, late
in the game, you got to get a stop. What
do they do? They play off coverage. The guy says,
down to the dun boom twelve yards first down. Drive continues,
and I think that frustrated a lot of people. So
now you bring in Jim Leonard and Bretty. You know
that from the college game, he's going to come. He's
going to attack you a little more. He's spent time
with in Denver, He's learned that defense a little bit more,

(40:14):
and I think he's going to get after it. And
I think they're going to be better on the defense
a lot better. You look at the size that's always
been a problem for them. You know, Dion Walker and
DJ Sanders take the next step. They're going to be
much more physical upfront. Getting Chubb he's a pro. They
follow him around. They're big russo rushing the passer, and
you know guys like Michael Hoyt getting back off injury.

(40:35):
And I think they're going to be much better on defense,
much more aggressive. They're not going to just sit back
and allow teams to dictate to them, which I think
something they have to do.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah, I get the impression he's just going to play
to the defensive scheme. To his talent, you know, he
strikes me as one of those where you know, he
obviously played in a Rex Ryan scheme, so he understands that.
But you talked about just his experience being in Denver too,
and how that's packed at him. I remember talking to
him back when he was that Wisconsin and just the
way they wanted to play, you know, their defense and

(41:07):
how their defensive structure, and even on as he took
over as interim head coach for a bit, you know,
you could kind of see some of that. So I
think it's going to play a lot to some of
the guys you're talking about. I want to talk about
the Dallas Cowboys. We opened up the show talking about
the Quinn Williams deal, but I just want to go back.
I mean, if you look at the Smith deal and
the old line, they're on bland now Quinn Williams, it's

(41:29):
like everyone besides Micah Parsons was business as usual, and
it feels like that was the one outlier, and it's
been one of those offseasons for Dallas that kind of
feels like Philly, like they're just getting deals done, getting
their roster set and potentially for a big year. Like
how do you view not only the signing of Quinn
and Williams, but just even the prospects of what Dallas

(41:50):
has done this offseason to bolster their defense and what
that could mean this year.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
I love what they've done. I think they're the best
team in the division, and I think they're going.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
To win it.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Vision I'm you know, I'm you know, Brady. I'm big
on Dak Prescott. I Thinkdak Prescott's underrated. I think he's
done a great job. I think when he gets protected,
he's gonna put up big numbers. And I think the
offensive line pretty good. Now. Left tackle's kind of in
a competition, although, uh, you know the kids winning that,
the second year players winning it. But the reality is
is if they can protect him, he's going to score

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a lot of points and I think they'll run the ball.
I think they're gonna be much better. They got to
stay healthy, but they'll be much better on offense. And
they've been good on offense but they've been forced to
be good. That flips it over to the other side.
I think defensively, they're going to be so much improved.
I mean, they're gonna get after it. Uh you know,
they're gonna they're gonna play. They got guys who can
rush the passer. Now, you know, now they need some

(42:42):
young players to step up, and I think they will.
But I think you look at their draft. You look
what they added. They got some good corner pieces. They
were decimated by injuries on that side of the ball.
Obrashawn's back, I mean, I think that's big. My guy
Barsham from Michigan's been really good so far playing linebacker
for him, and so I think you add that all up,
they're going to be so much better on defense and

(43:03):
combine it with the offense that can score a ton
of points. I think there's a team to be in
that division and I think they're going to push for
a lot more than that.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
By the way, wow, the team to beat.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
So you're you're not maintaining faith in Philadelphia to deliver.
I mean, you know, obviously they've done such a great
job of being able to maintain the talent even when
they do lose some guys. I mean, I'm skeptical, but
I still say Philly's got to be considered the toast

(43:34):
of the East right now. Still they got to be dethroned,
right or do you not look at it that way? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (43:40):
I mean, look, you've got to take him out. You
got to go get them, and they come in as
probably the favorite of the division. But I think Dallas
will get them this year.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I do.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
I think that Philly has some issues, you know, the
quarterback situation. How's that going to play out? I mean,
he's been good in big games. He's been fantastic in
big games because there's moments where he has him been great.
And you know, now with AJ Brown not there, what
happens to the passing game? And do they get back
running the football? Now you hear Lane Johnson's talking about
retiring after the season. Is the offensive lineback healthy? You know?

(44:10):
Is Jalen Carter now that he got paid, Is he
going to become the force that they thought he would
become last year because he didn't play that well and
I know he was banged up a little bit, but
he didn't play that well last year. So there are
a lot of questions with that team more so maybe
than even in the Cowboys. So and when I look
at it, look, I go straight to the quarterback position.
And people don't want to hear this, but I take
Dak Prescott over Jalen Hurts all day.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Wow. I mean, I think he's outside of the Super
Bowl win. I think you'd say, like Dak's been really,
really good and really consistent in particular throwing the football,
So I can understand why you'd say that. I was
going to transition to talk kind of more about where
the Giants are. We've been talking a little bit about
the NFC's division and really Washington. We talked about how

(44:54):
like Washington's that team that they could be improved this
year to some degree, but also if they get off
to a bad start, they could be that team that
falls victim to maybe dan Quinn being on the hot seat.
And I always say that because the ownership group, how
the first season went, and then kind of where it
feels like they've regressed to, like, how do you view
those other two teams within the division if you feel
like it's really Dallas and Philly maybe playoff teams or

(45:17):
are fighting for the top of division. And then what's
the other half look like to you?

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Yeah, I'm not I think the Giants are a year away.
I think you got a new coach taking over, and
Hardball has done a good job in Baltimore, and that
got a little stale down there too. But I think
you know, see how dark takes the next step where
Neighbors looks good, but where is the all season? I
think the offensive line will be bigger and stronger. Defensively,
they're going to get after the quarterback on the front end,

(45:42):
but the back end has some concerns, So I think
they'll be better. I just think watch out for them
next year. I think the next year is their year.
You know, you go to Washington, it'll lose your left tackle.
That's a brutal hit to start the season. I mean,
you lose your best offensive lineman in Tunsel and now
you've got to play Coleman back over there again, and
that's a worry. And I think anytime you change coordinators,

(46:05):
when a coach changes both of them, you know that
usually says okay, this year, the spotlight's on me. And look,
I've known Dan Quinn for a long time and he'd
probably be the first one to tell you he hasd
to win this year. I think there's gonna be a
lot of pressure on him to win. If he doesn't,
I don't know if they make a change, depending on
how it goes. I mean, if you missed the playoffs
by one game or something, that probably not. But if

(46:27):
they went, you know, if they had four or five wins,
then there's gonna be a lot of pressure in that organization.
You know, after you change both coordinators, it goes the
spotlight clearly goes straight on the head coach.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
What other storylines are developing for you that's percolating as
you travel around, Pete.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
I think the injuries all over the league, I mean,
and we say that every year. I mean, training camp
isn't what it used to be, as you guys know,
but you're still getting all these injuries, and that's you know,
that's always concerning to me to see who can make
it through without suffering the injuries. It's a survival test.
You guys know that if it's the team that you
know doesn't get just killed with injuries is going to

(47:09):
be the one at the end that you know, it's
probably they're playing for a super Bowl or you know,
at least competing for it, because you look at teams
that look at the forty nine ers already, they're just
banged up again and over and over again. You see
guys going down, and so I think it's the teams
that can, you know, navigate through the training camp and
the preseason without suffering the major injuries and hope you

(47:32):
don't have any during the regular season that are going
to be the ones that are in the end, they're
the ones that are going to be competing for the
Super Bowl and maybe even winning it. It health matters,
you know that. But I think when we see these
injuries and guys go down, you go, oh no, not
again again. I mean you see Walker go down in Atlanta,
and now they're all of a sudden, that team's dynamic
has totally changed. You got probably a suspension coming for Pierce,

(47:55):
You got Walker now out for the year, and all
of a sudden, the team that you thought was going
to be really good rushing the passer going to have
major problems rushing the passer, And so it changes the
whole feeling of that team just because of one injury
and one suspension.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Pete, I do want to climb down that rabbit hole
of conspiracy theories because we were looking at this yesterday,
Was that right, LeVar? We were looking at the when
Levi's stadiums was built, and I think they are based
on what research we've been able to find, the forty
nine ers have been one of the most, if not
the most injured team during that period of time. At

(48:31):
what point do you start drawing some conclusions from that?
Maybe there is something about the substation that's right next
to those stateium in practice field, Like maybe there is
something to that considering how banged up they have been
since they've gotten to Levi's.

Speaker 6 (48:48):
Well, I mean you can do a study on it.
Have they done any study on who knows?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I mean it could be I'm telling you, but based
on just the injury rate, they have been one of
the top teams, if not the most, since twenty fourteen
when they opened up there Levi's.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
Yeah. I mean, but Brady, is it coincidence or is
it I mean, you know what I mean? Or is
it just a conspiracy? Is it a conspiracy theory?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
It's it's like what twelve years of data? I mean,
you tell me, like, what would you drive from that?

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Or do they have to? Now I'm talking to people.
Hear the training program is. I hear the training program
is fantastic. It really is. But but I guess why
to get hurt? Who knows this?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Is it fantastically so fantastic that they're they're getting injured?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Come on, Pete taking a side on that man.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
And I told you this last week.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
I thought.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I think I said this last week or the week before.
I think guys overtrained now, and I think that leads
to problems.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I think were guys over twenty twelve years ago, No,
they were not.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
You know, it's different now, Brady. I'm going going to
go pay it's fifteen thousand dollars to go work out
from January, you know, thirtieth to April first. Then I'm
going to go to the facility and work out from
April first until you know, ju June or whatever they
break from ani camp, and then I'm gonna go back
to the facility for another ten grand to work out

(50:10):
until I get to training camp. And then I'm gonna
go to training camp. Where's your body resting?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
But you do know Q hit you with twelve years
for a reason though, so going and hitting with the
punchline que.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying that it's you're saying of late,
Like twelve years ago you said they weren't. Okay, Well,
now we're back twelve years ago, and then how about
another three or four years after that? Like they have,
they have faced these injuries time and time again. I mean,
are you are you in on the conspiracy theory or
are you not? Because like it's enough to give a study.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
I don't buy I don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I don't okay. I think he's worried about I think
I know what this is too, he's worried about. I'm
not worried about anything.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
I just don't say. I don't buy this. I mean
it's coincidence more than anything. Now they go out, okay,
find out that what Brady? What from?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
How about this? Noal, I know how we can prove this.
We get you to go out there and for a
week stand next to the substation of practice as close
as you can. Let's see, let's see how you feel
like every day. We're gonna have your journal. Then we're
gonna we're gonna then compile all of your experience after
that week, and then and then and Bowie, you still

(51:12):
have to work out you still have to do your
biking and stuff, you become subject to injury.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
So let me ask you this, what do you think
the substation is doing?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I don't know, dude. I mean, can you hear people
talk about how there's like the electric magnetic field, how
that impacts soft tissue injuries and that sort of thing.
I mean, that's that's at least the base basic description
of what I've read is that it makes more to.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
That because it's it's right there next to the stadium,
right the more are the more visiting players being hurt
in that.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Stadium, Well, they're not closed to it long enough.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Oh oh, I see, Now we find out that it's
got to be long term exposure to the subject.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I mean, isn't that what it would be consistent? I mean,
I would assume that's what it would consist of. Is
not how that around you get the slow drip every day,
you know.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
And what if you go to the actually and what
is actually contributing to it? What do they get? What's
what's happening to their bodies?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
The soft tissue gets weakened because of it makes it
injury from what though? From the electromatics, the electromagne net
field from the substation.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
Yeah, I mean we really really really have crossed over.
We start thinking that.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
By the way, Okay, that's fine if that's if that's
the stance you take. It's just we're gonna have to
wait until you know, you you know, get off there.
Then we' we talk about it.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Let me ask you this too. When you go, when
you go like get treatment, don't you get electric stimulation
on your muscles? At times?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Stem is different electric stimulation, Yeah, definitely get electra.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
It's different though. Yeah, you put on it.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
Well, maybe maybe they're over there, maybe you on the substance.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
What do you proposingly you want someone just be hooked
up to the substations? That what you want? You want
all those players just to be like just shocked by
the substation. Is that you'd rather happen go to the substation?

Speaker 6 (53:04):
You become superman? How about that? You become the Superman. Look,
I just think it's freak injuries that happened. I don't
think it has me personally. I don't think it has
anything to do with the substation. We just love to
blame things and you know, oh my gosh, there's a
substation over there.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Let me break what about what about the substation and then.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
Where the air is terrible? Are they going to get asthma?
I mean, come on, what.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
About the magnet magnetic field making a tesla like cross
lanes and stuck? Is that possible that the potential of
that could have led to, you know, a fender bender
of sorts.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
You know, well how close was he to the field?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I mean, but but how do you Brady hates this story,
by the way, but since we're on it, I mean, okay,
hold on, do you have any Do you have any
can I chime in on?

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I don't need the story? Here's my thing. I don't
know where we go from here with the story like
it was. It was only a story because of how
it was not reported right away. And now that we've
got like whatever it was, whether it's he was on
autopilot and he clicked it off, or autopilot malfunctioned, or
it was his fought or his reaching for his fault,

(54:19):
he was reaching for his phone, like whatever the case is,
I'm just like, all right, where do we go from here?

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Like?

Speaker 6 (54:24):
Like?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
What more is there? That way? We got? What am
I missing? Pete? What more? Where is left? Well?

Speaker 6 (54:31):
Again, I thought they handled it poorly. I said that
on the show. I said, I've said it time and again.
I think they handled it poorly. When that happens, you
have to come out.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
And say it.

Speaker 6 (54:41):
Once you know he's fine and there's no danger of him,
you know, suffering, you know, getting killed or anything. I
think you've got to come out and say, our head
coach at an accident, he will be on the sidelines
for a while. This is what happened. D da da
da dah. And they didn't do it, so they enabled
the story to continue and it's still continuing. So you're

(55:01):
you know, you're not wrong about that. I think you know,
at some point people are going to go deeper diving
into it, and and what are they.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Deeper diving for? Yeah, but what are the kiddings? You Like,
that's what diving? Where is this going? Like if you've
got a car accident and then someone reported it, it's like, okay,
like do we need to dive into Yeah, Pete was
reaching for his diet coke, Like it's just like okay,
like what are we what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
And and even if it were a person another person
in the car, let's just say it came out later
another person was in the car. Is that worth continuing?
I mean the deep dive based on like what what is?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Can you just say.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
What is the ultimate? No Levara Jonas have Jonas Jonas
speculated it. I didn't you were you co sign that?
All I said was I've been in enough Tesla's to
know that it is hard to wreck a Tesla.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
That's all I know.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
And and let's and maybe cow Shanahan was in the
one car that malfunctioned while was an autopilot.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
But if I were to lose control of my car,
it would probably be because it was worth losing control of.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
The car in that moment. And you know, I'm just saying,
I'm a man.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
You know, so who you're saying in the Tesla, if
you and Brady had to test it, if you lean down,
you can't the car will will stay in autopilot.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
It'll bro you could go to sleep. So here's what
I'd say, that's not true about this one. All teslas
aren't like that. You have to have a certain autonomous
mode for it, for the autopilot. There are some that
are lesser where you have to have your hands in
the wheel. It will even track your facing if you're
not like facing towards you know, the like the road,
if you're not looking towards the road. There's guys, there's

(56:52):
guys who actually have invented this little figure that can
clip on the like right in front of the camerasn't
have to be on the wheel, well, no, it just
has their face has to be looking forward because because
it's filming their face in the movement, so it.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Makes it look like it makes it look like your
face is looking forward.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Exactly exactly exactly. So there's all types of different ways
they've messed with the Jerry Riggitt. But my point is
when I had one, it actually got a little funky
at times, Like if a car on the highway in
particular started to get close to you, it would like
immediately shut off autopilot. It would like jerk the car.

(57:31):
It was. It was actually rather like at times scary
because you're like, damn, like I don't like have as
much control in this moment because I'm not actually controlling it.
The car was and it wasn't a great experience. So
I think they happened you like you would literally like
it would like start to swerve like it really would
like kind of like the car would freak out.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
It would basically one of them. Maybe I had one
of them all once. Here's my thing, then why not
say that? Yeah, I'm not say that.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Well, why here's the other part of it. What happened
to the police cameras, the body cam? I mean, that's
that's an interesting part of it.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
And the fact that there was clerical errors there were
there were errors made and what.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Was reported was blamed for it.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
Yeah, and who.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Was going for and correct it?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
See, And my question is why do you make it
a point to come out and say it and then
come out and explain it again and detail again. Just
it's just I don't know, maybe I'll watched too many
crime shows. I just it just kind of came across
as one of them those alibis that you could poke
holes in it, but too I don't, I don't really care.

Speaker 6 (58:43):
Okay, But if it happened the way they said it happened, okay,
and it actually he was reaching for his phone, he swoved,
he hit them. But whatever, even having that happened the
way it did, you still can't wait as long as
you did to allow it to come out. You just can't.
You've got to put that out there, and they sure,
and so standpoint. I thought they handled it.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Poorly and that's the story. But I still am just like,
like where do we what we keep talking about? Like
I'm a surprised LeVar has not gotten in a diner
SENI like Vrabel reference because he's always trying to get well.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I mean, it does come across as the standard of
how you know they call it what what Whitner call it?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Access media.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
If they would have not did what the forty nine
ers wanted them to do as local media reporters, they
would have not had access. And I'm not so sure
that isn't true. You get the situation with the Racini
and the Vrabel deal. It's like it went away.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
It just went away, like you're saying. You're saying that
if the local forty nine ers reporters knew about it,
didn't report it because they wouldn't get access to the team.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I mean, that's the possibility, that's that that was that,
that is what what was put out there.

Speaker 6 (59:56):
You'll have to have that they would still have access. Now,
there could be a lot of people that wouldn't w
to talk to him, and that's their right, but you
still have to have the access to be able to
go into the facility, go into the locker room, go
into that because you're just doing your job. That would
be that would be one of the worst things that
could ever happen. I don't think it could happen, to
be honest with you, So no, Lamar, that can not happen. Now,
you could have a bunch of people in your organization decide, okay,

(01:00:18):
maybe there was a guy in the organization, a guy
who covered a team who got some time with Shanahan
on the side, you know, talking to him, getting details,
and and then.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
That we're getting cut off. We'll get cut off. Yeah, Pete,
they're they're we're pulling you off stage. We gotta go.
We gotta get a break, Pete. We always appreciate the insight,
always appreciate your time much. Well, we gotta get to break,
and we gotta get to break. I love thank you
so much. We'll talk to you next week. That's Pete Prisco,

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