The Best Of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe

On this episode of 2 Pros & A Cup Of Joe, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, & LaVar Arrington react to the Seahawks beating the Patriots in a clunky season opener. Plus, the guys talk about Dianna Russini saying she will reveal her side of the story once she lands a new job, chat with Albert Breer, and more!!

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Much better. You stayed in your genre, but it's football. Listen,
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I might throw one pick. I won't throw three, though.
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
We'll be right back. Well, we're one game in the

(01:45):
books in the NFL season.

Speaker 7 (01:48):
And we got injuries and we got questions about quarterback play.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Quick injury. Just like that, man. And they still won.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
Yeah, it's almost as if, you know, the NFL gods
were like, oh, you had a plan?

Speaker 8 (02:06):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Watch this.

Speaker 7 (02:08):
And Sam Darnold goes out with the hip injury. They've
ruled out a fracture, which I know Dr. Chow had
pointed out would have been very problematic long term. And
so now they're waiting on the MRI to come up
later today to see the significance of it.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
How much did he play in the preseason? Did he
get any reps? I don't remember. Darnold?

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I don't recall him playing at all. Yeah. It's just
so much for.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Oh, we're not going to play them in the preseason
because we're going to preserve them for the regular season.
I mean, isn't there something to be said about getting
a game rep, even as a vet, a game rep,
so you know what.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Especially for a quarterback.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
Because a quarterback is not really, like, you do not
feel the real impact and effects of a real rep
until you're in the game because you always protect it.
I mean, you're protected in the games these days, too.
But it's different. You still can get full contact in

(03:12):
a game. And I don't know. It's a hip injury. Obviously,
injuries happen. Freak things happen. But to me, it's like
if you're getting reps and you know what it feels
like to run away from a defender now, like this season...

(03:33):
this preseason, this regular season, and you understand that speed,
do you jam your hip up? Do you get rolled
up that way where you get hurt? I mean, it's possible, obviously.
I'm not saying that it's not possible to get injured.

(03:55):
I'm just wondering. Again, preseason to me was always to
get yourself ready for game reps. And I don't know.
It kind of defeats the purpose of saying you're not
going to play your guys in preseason, if you ask me.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think the difference here is this is like a
contact injury with the way the guy landed on him.
Like that play could have happened in preseason to Sam Darnold.
You know, it's hard when it's a contact deal. If
you would have said it was a non-contact injury, different story.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
But when a guy is taking.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You to the ground and you jam your knee into
your hip like that, that could happen at any point.
During a preseason game or regular season. So it's, it's
one of those to me where I don't, I don't
know so much that it matters if he plays preseason
or not in that regard. I would generally say this.
I mean, this is one of the realities. of the

(04:44):
NFL game as we currently sit with quarterbacks. Guys are
becoming more mobile than ever. They're moving out of the
pocket more than ever where they're not protected. And that's
where you better have a backup. You better have some
depth at that position. And you try to have depth
at every other position on the field because you know

(05:06):
there's injuries going to happen. It's 100% injury risk. You're
going to get injured. It's just a matter of when.
Or you might have guys that need to take a
series off or something like that. And so you have
enough depth as we play 17 games and eventually in
the 18 games. And that's where I think for some reason,
the backup quarterback position has somewhat been devalued because we

(05:26):
put so much money into our starter. And now, I mean,
we know I have an idea of what's wrong with
Sam Donald, but drew locks going to be the guy
for the foreseeable future. He's got some starting experience. I
thought he came in and did a tremendous job last night.
I mean, it ended up being a better decision-maker as
the backup who probably got no reps before this game
this week. And even throughout camp, since Sam Darnold, there's

(05:49):
no quarterback competition there.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
You know he's the guy. He just won a Super Bowl.
So he probably got barely any reps.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
And yet he comes in and looks like, to me
at least, the better decision-maker of the two quarterbacks last night,
between him and Drake May.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Don't mess it up. That Seattle Seahawks defense... are a
bunch of goblins. The dark side, it's for real. That
New England team is a good New England team. That
last year was not a fluke. And you could see
that very quickly in this game. That's not a fluky

(06:29):
football team. That was two quality football teams matching up
and replaying the Super Bowl. And if you thought for
one moment that the Seattle Seahawks some way, somehow tricked
us into believing that they were a good team, a

(06:53):
better team than, than maybe, or maybe not as good
a team as you thought that, listen, that defense is
for real.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
That kid from Notre Dame, my apologies. My apologies.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
They could do better in the run, but that kid
can run the ball. And he's a load. Pause. He
is a really, really physically gifted back. All Drew Locke
has to do is make those short passes, let his
outside receivers spin when they get it, get that Yakkelberry juice.

(07:38):
And not make any poor decisions because your defense is
going to do the job. You mentioned three interceptions. The
three interceptions came because you have a secondary that is
all up in the passing lanes with a defensive front.
That is creating all kinds of threat.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
They were not on a couple of them.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
The last one?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
The last one was awful. There was no pressure. He
forced it on third and five. Seeing ghosts.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Sam Darnold could have gave him some advice if he
wasn't in the back. By the time it happened.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
His second interception, he threw downfield. There was no pressure.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Man, look here.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
He literally threw it up in the double coverage.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
That defensive front was in his face and pressuring him
all night.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It was awesome to see Will Campbell and the job
he did on the edge. I thought he did a
tremendous job. You don't see a lot of guys cut
block as much as he did last night. Hall wanted
no part of that. And that was it was awesome
to see. But that that to me was a game of,
you know, if you are we're looking for that, that growth,
that jump, that that, hey, this team went to a

(08:51):
Super Bowl last year and, you know, didn't didn't work
out the way you had hoped to.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
But they've got that motivation this year.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
That was about as bad of a performance in regards
to some of those critical moments. You expect more out
of Drake May than what we got. I mean, just
check it down, throw it away, move on to the
next down. On third and five like that, if it's
not there, throw it away.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Just throw it away. Take the field goal. Go into overtime.
See if you can't win there. That made no sense
to me.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
That Seattle Seahawks defense is a problem. And for what
it's worth, New England's defense is going to be a
problem too. They're a problem too. Those were Those were
two supreme superior defenses last night. I mean, y'all may
have seen it the way y'all seen it. I'm going
to stand on what I felt I saw. Their defensive
front was very dominant. Yeah, I think they were dominant.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
But if you saw the interceptions, no one in their
right mind goes, that's a good decision.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
But I think that there's a lot that plays a
part in why quarterbacks start making bad decisions. And I
felt like the presence of that defensive front the blitzes
that came from the secondary, those were things to me
that it took a toll on Drake May.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
It took a toll on him.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
The way they were in his face, the way they
were collapsing the pocket, the way they were moving him around,
I thought the defenses, both sides, played hellified football. But
the Seahawks defense, I mean, they're going to win the
bulk of their games because their defense is as advertised.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's a serious defense. You want to hear a little
Drake May?

Speaker 5 (10:28):
Sure, why not?

Speaker 7 (10:28):
Taking accountability for the performance postgame last night.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Let's take a listen.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, I think we had the game under control.

Speaker 9 (10:34):
You know, I thought we had a good plan to
try to start chipping away and be patient. And, yeah,
lost patience and costed us. I think it just, you know,
decisions that, cost us the game, you know, on my
part and my end. And, you know, I've asked myself
to be better and realize it's, you know, it's a
long season, but at the same time, you can't have those.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
You can't have those.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And it's unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
And I know that.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
They'll get you back to work because, you know, that wasn't,
you know, how I play football and how I want
to represent, you know, my game and, you know, playing
quarterback for the Patriots.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
They were up, what, 10-0 at one point? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
I think.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
Throwing the interception in that spot, that's literally the last
thing you could possibly want. Like, hey, listen, man, if
we get stopped here, if you lose a few yards, whatever,
just keep us in field goal range, still give.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Us an opportunity to tie the game. Yeah, that throw.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
Even Chris Collinsworth, Chris Collinsworth, who doesn't criticize anybody offensively,
immediately after the throw was made, Collinsworth is like, I
can't believe I just saw that throw. Like, I can't
believe he threw that. Like that was, I don't know
how you, how you justify that one. Great play, but,

(11:49):
but yeah, awful decision.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
No, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And tremendous to, to, you know, catch the ball two feet.
So it's app, but again, your coach does a quarterback
in those scenarios. I would be shocked if anyone even
reminded him because they thought it was assumed. And maybe
that's where the mistake comes in. But you can't force
the football in that spot. And I don't know if
he was trying to throw it away off his back foot,
just didn't give it enough. Or sometimes as a quarterback,

(12:13):
you're trying to throw it into a spot where you
feel like, hey, either your guy gets it or no
one gets it. And in that case, it just came
up just kind of short. It was a bad decision.
There's no other way of going about it. And like
I said, even earlier in the game, you look back
and you just go, not sure why he was forcing
balls into certain spots. Maybe when you have a low-scoring

(12:36):
game like that, you feel pressure to want to take
those shots when you get them because it's hard to
go 10 to 12 to 14 plays down the field
and get points. It gets frustrating as a quarterback when
it's like that. If there's a way of defense putting
pressure on you, it's like back in the old day
when Lovie Smith would play the old Tampa 2. And
they would say to you, go ahead. Go have a 10,

(12:56):
12-play drive and not make a mistake. We're going to
force you to basically throw underneath. We're going to force
you to try to be able to run the football
versus our front. And if you can go consistently throughout
the course of a game, 10 to 14 plays every drive,
all right, we'll.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Take our hat off to you. But most teams can't.
Most teams didn't during that era.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
And I'm not saying that this is the exact same
philosophy or strategy because they bring a lot more pressure
than what the Bears did back then. but it's kind
of similar in the sense of they're not giving up
big plays. If there's a play to be made, it's
going to be somewhere underneath. You're going to have to
get yards after the catch or yards after contact and
find a way of working downfield from there.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I think it's comparable.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I think that the defensive front for the Seattle Seahawks
was disruptive, and they were disruptive enough with the coverages
that were out there where I mean, they were able
to get into the passing lanes and that's music to
my ears to hear from an offensive perspective is that's

(14:04):
music to my ears to hear. He made throws he
shouldn't have made. He made mistakes that were critical mistakes.
We heard him say, I wasn't we weren't patient. I
wasn't patient enough. Those are the things that when you
go through your defensive meeting and you go through your
grading system and your coaches meeting, you know, conversations, those

(14:27):
are the things that you want to hear your opponent say.
He made bad decisions. He wasn't patient. Like he lost his,
you know, he lost his nerve. Whatever it was, that's
what a defense wants to hear. A defender wants to
hear because that's called disruption. he was disrupted from having

(14:49):
the ability to make good decisions. He was, their offense
was disrupted from having much success. And for what it's worth,
they didn't have very much success on offense. So to me, again,
this was a very, very defensive heavy game. It was
a very, very, you know, I would say simply game

(15:12):
plan game, run the ball, try not to make any mistakes.
Give your playmakers the opportunity to make plays. Seattle's made
them on offense when they needed, and Jigba made the
big play, had the nice run for the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
He's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
And the clutch. And they were able to, you know,
get on top. These were two good teams. I thought
that if you, you know, maybe– Maybe the score wasn't
indicative to maybe onlookers or fantasy football people to be
excited about. You didn't see crazy explosive plays. But if

(15:52):
a game is being played the way it's supposed to
be played and the defenses are leading the way, that's
what a well-played or well-prepared game looks like.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Now, let me ask you this. Was it a good game?
Because I would say. I thought it was entertaining. I
thought it was brutal.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
I thought it was brutal.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I thought it was a lot of penalties.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Kind of the first game out of the gate. A
lot of penalties.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Turnovers.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Not great execution.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
And also, that's a pretty bad loss for New England.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
I think you guys are being a tad bit critical.
For this to be their first game out and they
don't play in the preseason, I think you guys are like,
don't try to get on no high horse acting like
holier than thou.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm happy to have a back.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
They had 17 penalties.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
You might have had 17 penalties. Don't talk like cats
come out and they got to be perfect. I don't
want to be ungrateful.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Y'all sound like it.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Appreciated defensive slugfest i grew up a bears fan when
they had no.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Offense hey brady you were a player bro don't don't
be a don't sound like don't sound like one of
these non-playing dudes come on man you sound like.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I would tell you if i thought it was good
football was a good football.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
Saying bro like she played bro like don't let me
get dabble on the phone Like, you got to be
one of them dudes in the room, huh? You got
to be that dude that talks about us, and you're
one of us.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Like, how does that work? Hey, by the way, how long?
Tighten up, man. What would be?

Speaker 6 (17:20):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
If you had to guess, how long is Sam Darnold
out for? They said it's not fractured. It's not fractured,
but it's a hip issue.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
It might be a bone bruise. It could be a while, man.
It could be five to six. If it's a bone bruise,
he's going to be out for a little bit.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
Yeah, so then, you know, as you mentioned earlier, Brady,
Drew Locke is going to be the guy sort of
for the foreseeable future, and they'll just run with him.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And he's been in the league long enough, so. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
I mean, look, he's capable, I think, to LeVar's point
about the defense, but also what he brought up in
the running game. Jadarian Price and the way they're able
to take the rock ground, it only depends. 10 rushes
so not a great sample size but they could hang
their hat on that a little bit they got to
be better on third down but they can hang their
hat on that and and they're talented enough at the
wide receiver spot too where it makes things a bit

(18:10):
easier on drew lock because you can find ways of
getting the different playmakers to football you know not just
downfield but quick screens things of that nature you know
jsn you can move around a ton which helps you
know when you've got a guy who's that talented and
he's a guy that can play multiple positions you it
takes so much pressure off you as a quarterback because
you then have play callers that can scheme some things up.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
So let's also.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Not gloss over the fact that you do have a
new OC too, right?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like Clint Kubiak's gone.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And so some of the offensive maybe concerns or some
of the things that weren't working too well, that might
be this offense finding its identity this year with a
new play caller. And that sometimes comes along with the
change that you have with the coaching.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Staff over the course of an offseason.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Damn, man, Sam Darnold. Like, just Super Bowl. One series.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
In and out.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, I don't know how you callous up for that.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
That's just guy fell on him, hip goes, and that's that.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
I'm not saying you callous up. I'm just saying your
reaction time. Like, for what it's worth, if we were
simulating you having to run away from a lion in
the wild... We're simulating what the Serengeti is like. That

(19:30):
is nothing like when that lion is right in front
of you and now you have to do it in
real time.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
It's different. And A.J. Brown got banged up. He made
a couple catches.

Speaker 7 (19:43):
Early.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
Ankle issue.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Not sure.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
He made a couple catches. No more than what he
did when he was in Philly. He's used to that treatment.
Are you going to complain?

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Are you going to start reading a book?

Speaker 7 (20:04):
Underthrown on the flea flicker. Yeah, I got it. He's
used to that treatment. But hey, we're glad to have
the NFL's back. Just hoping for, you know, potentially some
better quality games from time to time.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's ridiculous, bro.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
What?

Speaker 7 (20:23):
That's ridiculous. The game sucked out loud for three and
a half quarters. I thought it was awesome.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
I was entertained. I thought I was entertained. The defenses
did what they needed to.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
Do.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
I am just blown away by the fact that defenses
aren't allowed to be good. Like, can we make football great?
Can we make defense great again?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I think defenses can be good, and you can still
admit it wasn't a great game.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
It was kind of sloppy.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
On the offensive side of the ball, if you guys
are saying sloppy, I didn't see sloppy play from the defenses.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
So if you guys are putting it on offense, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Now, if they had a number of penalties, would you
think those penalties were sloppy?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Well, depending on what the penalties were. You know, depending
on the penalties.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
I mean, what were the penalties? A couple pass interference?
What were they?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, I mean, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I was going through them all.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
They got three 15-yarders for bad play. The officials just said,
this game's awful. Here's a 15-yard penalty. Do better next time.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
The officials just said.

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On the eve, or I guess hours before the New
England Patriots opened up the season in Seattle last night,
A report from the New York Post came out that
Diana Rossini is planning on telling her side of the

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story when she does ultimately.
Obtain her next job opportunity covering the NFL. And she's
apparently got offers. She's mulling over several offers from several outlets.

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She is expected, and it is possible she expects, to
add more than one gig to her resume in the
coming weeks or months or who knows. But pretty soon here,
old Diana Rossini... who stole the show from a scandal
standpoint in the offseason, is expected to be back out

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in the public eye and ready to get back to work.
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Are you surprised?

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh, sorry. Go ahead.

Speaker 7 (25:38):
I don't know if this warrants a round of applause
for LeVar, who called his shot and won the bet.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Not really a win. I mean, it could turn into
a bigger story. I thought it'd be a bigger story
than this.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
So I was going to ask you guys this. It's
two questions for you. The first is, if.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
You are her, given how this has probably impacted your
own family life, personal life, and then obviously your professional career,
are you jumping back into this this season?

Speaker 6 (26:08):
No.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
I told LeVar this yesterday. You'd never hear from me again.
If I've got the financial well-being, and she's like, I
think her husband is a top executive at Shake Shack.
If I've got all of that, knowing what I just
went through, put my family through, I got young kids,

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they're going to hear all about this stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Keep me as far away. I'll go move to a
farm in Iowa. Leave me alone. You would never hear
from me again, ever.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
I think that's a hard one because I feel like
looking at the way Mike Vrabel has handled it, it's like,
what's the big deal?

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Moving on.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Like whatever it was that happened, it happened. And we're just,
you know, we're focused on what's in front of us.
So I think it being so normalized and so marginalized
and its impact and effect on Mike Vrabel probably made
her like, why did I leave my job?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Why am I not doing reports?

Speaker 6 (27:18):
What if some way, somehow, they've gotten far enough away
from this where it's like, you know what? The report
is closed. I got a chance to hear what the
Athletic is going to say. They said there's nothing that
could kind of nail down the idea that something inappropriate
took place, but yet you're going to have an opinion
about it and say, now reading back on them, you're

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a little weirded out or whatever it is. But there's
nothing really tremendously damning about the findings. So understanding that
there's nothing really damning about the findings, she can say
what she wants to say. And she's going to be
the only one that has the account and the credibility

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to say what it is that took place. And I
can 100% tell you, well, I can't tell you 100%,
but I would 100% assume she's going to come out
and she's going to say they didn't do anything inappropriate.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Of course.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
And there's not going to be anyone to hold her
accountable or say that that's incorrect. Everybody's on the same page.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
That was my next question was there's the other side
than this of what is left there for there to
be said.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
And people will say, well, she's going to tell her
side of the story.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I would imagine, though, if you're getting back into all
of this and if you want to try to keep
any sort of credibility. To make people think that moving forward,
when you are talking to another coach, when you are
talking to another player, that something isn't going on. That
she's not going to be able to say exactly what happened.

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And I think regardless of what she says, we all
saw what took place and have an idea of what
took place.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Yeah, you have an idea, but you don't know for
certain if it went any further than them holding hands
and looking at each other in the eyes.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
What do you mean?

Speaker 6 (29:15):
Really?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Really, LeVar? Hey, look here. And think about how many. Hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Hold on now. Listen to me now.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I'm just saying, how many other people is she protecting?
I feel like, and for what it's worth... Hold on,
hold on.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Address what you said first. Do you really think it
stopped at the gazing into each other's eyes and the
hand holding?

Speaker 7 (29:39):
No!

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
But she's going to say it, dude. And how do
you confirm it?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
But that's the other thing is like, hey, hey, hey,
whoever the next employer is, if you are just doing
this to get a bump off of like everyone's going
to want to hear what she has to say for
that initial release of her side of it.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
OK, but then it kind of goes nowhere. Then it's like, OK,
back to.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Her doing what she does and reporting NFL and getting
inside information, all those things.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
And she's still going to get it because of.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
All the people who would give her anything at this point.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Everybody that she didn't tell on.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
There's a lot of wives out there who might be
giving some side eye now.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Who do you do that interview with? You don't think
they were giving her the side eye before? Not as
bad as now.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
If it was like, yeah, if it was a different
side of it now, it's like, no, you don't talk.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
That's why I wonder on the credibility of the publication,
unless she's just this is a setup for her to
do her own podcast. That's what I would assume. Yes,
that's what it is. But it's going to get picked
up by somebody.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Her days of breaking stories as a reporter are done.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (30:57):
Those days ended when she was going to the lumberyard
on that rooftop in Sedona or whatever.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
Her body of work is her body of work. And
she has been accused of being that person before this happened.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, but that was all sort of underground stuff.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
That wasn't mainstream. Yeah, that's like because.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
We're around NFL service.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Nobody knew that.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
No one saw those photos did not show Mike Vrabel
bumping and grinding with Diana Rossini.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
That's why we were so prepared to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
There is no confirmation of the bump and the grind.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I mean, look.

Speaker 7 (31:39):
I find it hard to believe that anybody in the NFL,
a coach or anybody.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I find.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
It hard to believe that the coach or anybody should
be respecting the coach or anybody after getting caught up
doing that with an insider.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
As a reporter. How are you going to take any
report that comes out serious? How are you going to.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Take Mike Vrabel coaching the New England Patriots serious? And
all that's fair, but she comes out with a story,
it's like, well, you know... This is also the same
woman who got throttled by Vrabel. This whole conversation comes
up every time.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
So Vrabel just gets to be the guy that throttled
her and just go on with his life like.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Oh, we're moving on. Maybe this was passionate lovemaking.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
Hey, they held hands.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Name Michael. Throttled.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
They held hands.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Like it didn't have to be NASCAR in there. Listen
to some R & B.

Speaker 11 (32:32):
Dang.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Lorraine, could you set the mood for us?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
Let me see.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
It could be some R & B and some candles.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Dang.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
I just think, and also, she's going to tell her
side of the story. We saw your side of the story, okay?
How did you see her side of the story, Jonas?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
All the pictures.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
What do you think was going on there? Why is
that her side of the story? Why isn't that Mike
Vrabel's side of the story? You sound like a chauvinist, bro.
I'm just saying. You need to stop attacking Diana Rossini.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I like Diana Rossini. I'm just saying. How is he
a chauvinist? Did you see those photos? We know your
side of the story.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
What is she going to tell us?

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Meanwhile, you got Mike Vrabel right here on television right now.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
You know what he's not talking about? Them photos.

Speaker 11 (33:16):
Okay, but what is she going to tell us? What
is his side of the story for the photos? Because
he hasn't told a side of the story. No one's
really told the full story. There is no side. Their sides.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
This was a music I called for like a minute ago.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
had to find the right this would have been great like.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
Two minutes ago we're going to throw on the love
music and love making music and the friendship music you
want to know the.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Truth i'm gonna name my son after you there.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
You go you want to know why diana racine said
you want to know why she said what You want
to know what the wish was?

Speaker 2 (33:54):
What's that? When Mike Vrabel closed his eyes and.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Made the wish, the wish was I can get through
this without losing my job. Either that or I could
get rocked by a cactus patch in Arizona again.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Take your pick.

Speaker 7 (34:07):
Ouch.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I'm telling you, man. What is she going to say?

Speaker 3 (34:11):
We know.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
We saw the pictures. Do you know what she's going
to say, Jonas? Listen to what I'm saying to you, doc.
His wish is her command. He already knows her side
of the story because it's both of their sides of
the story. That's why he's not saying anything. There's no
reason for him to say anything. She set up to

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say the story the way that she wants to say
the story, and they're on the same page of what
the story is.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
There is no sides of the story.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
She's going to deliver a story that is acceptable on
both fronts.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Why would you want to bring this back up? That's
what I don't get.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I would disappear. I think she wants to get back in.
Lorena did. I believe, I believe Diana Rossini.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
And Mike Vrabel understood at some point that Diana Rossini
is not done being a reporter, being a media content creator.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I ain't done winning yet.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
She ain't done winning yet. And let this thing die
down a little bit. I'm going to tell everybody I'm
moving on. Give it a little time. You come out.
Your story is compelling. It's going to get there. Tell
me who isn't going to listen to what she has
to say when she gives her side of it.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
But what do you think she's going to say? It
doesn't matter. Are you going to listen to what she's
got to say? Are we going to talk about what
you're going to get that initial pop? And then afterwards.
All right.

Speaker 8 (35:55):
What?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
But she's got a chance.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
All right.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
She's got a chance. How many people get an initial pop?

Speaker 7 (36:01):
And look, if she ends up working here at Fox
Sports Radio, welcome in. No judgment here. Why would you
judge her?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't. Are you judging Mike Vrabel? She went above
and beyond.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
Why shouldn't she have the opportunity to continue doing her
work at the level that she's done it at if
Mike Vrabel is allowed to continue to do the same?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
What's the difference?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What's the difference?

Speaker 8 (36:25):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm just saying, what is the difference? You know what?
Mike Vrabel then told the whole world.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
They said, what about Diana Rossini?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm moving on.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
That's behind me now. He still ain't came out and said,
I tapped that ass. He said, I'm moving on. It
has been minimized. Why you got to jump to conclusions
like that? Because he didn't say it. I jumped to
a conclusion. You jumped to a conclusion. We all jumped
to a conclusion. No one has ever confirmed that he

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tapped that ass. And she ain't going confirming. And neither
is he. And he's moving on. So why does he
get to move on? We're talking about a game played
last night, the rematch of the Super Bowl. These two
teams look to be two good teams, and we're talking

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about the football game. And you know who the coach
is on one of them sidelines? The guy that was
with Diana Racine.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
And Diana Racine doesn't even have a job now because
she stepped away. She stepped down to go be with
her family because of all of these wild ass aggressive
accusations about what happened. I'm going to set the story straight. Yes,
I was there with him in Sedona. Yes, I did
an interview with him. Yes, we got a little personal

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and he grabbed my hands, but that's just the relationship
we had.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's a playful relationship, people.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Everything doesn't have to be about humping and pumping. I'm
a reporter and I'm an insider. I've held a lot
of coaches in GM's hands and owners. I've held a
lot of their hands in my hands. They've looked at
me and said, Diana, this is what it is. And
I looked at them and said, I'm going to report

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it the right way. She's going to set the record straight.
And she's got the relationships to do it. There's a
lot of people out there that she could probably, just
like she did with that officer.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
You see who's on my phone right here? Hey, who
do you think about the quarterback? I'm sorry. I was
looking at some breaking news. She knows people, bro.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
That also, who would ever give her any bit of
information knowing she would just name.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Drop into a cop?

Speaker 6 (38:43):
The same people, the same people that she protected and
didn't put out there are the same people that are
still going to talk to her, and that's why she's
doing it.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
You don't think she already.

Speaker 6 (38:54):
confirmed that she has her same sources in play before
she does this if she didn't have the sources in
place she didn't have the work that she could put
in right now like after she does this getting the
record straight why would you even do it there's no
reason to do it if you don't already know you
can deliver the goods of what you've been delivering She's

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already had this conversation. Diana, again, if you're with us
here at FSR.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Dirty Diana. No.

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listening on the podcast, we appreciate you doing so. It
is a Thursday tradition here on the show. He is
a man who joins us every single week, and he's
got lots of thoughts on what we saw last night
in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
He is the one and only.

Speaker 7 (40:38):
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB,
and you can get him on X at Albert Breer.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
A.B., good morning.

Speaker 8 (40:48):
Good morning, guys.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
How are we doing?

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Doing well, man.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
How are you doing?

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Good.

Speaker 8 (40:55):
Good, good, good, good. Just got done with some Wednesday
afternoon football, and then I think technically tonight what we
have is Friday morning football, right? Because I think in Melbourne,
I think it's a Friday morning kickoff.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Well, yeah, it's 9-11 there, though, which some people took
issue with.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Major issue.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
9-11 over there, yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:15):
Really?

Speaker 2 (41:16):
People are offended by that? I am.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
Why?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
I'm offended by it. Why are you playing?

Speaker 10 (41:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I'm a patriot, bro.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
What are you doing on 9-11? That's a major happening
during a football season when 9-11 happened, and you're doing
it in a foreign country, a different land.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Do it here in America. Play the game here. That's all.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
We can't. I mean, 9-11, but it's not 9-11 here.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
I know that.

Speaker 8 (41:46):
I know that. I know that.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
You make it so that you can play it here,
not there.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
I'm not a fan of it.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I'm just not a fan of it.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
You probably could have done that.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
A.B., can I ask you, as somebody who lives in
and around the New England area and you've been there
almost your whole life, What was the expectation of Drake
May and the Patriots coming into this season? And I
know it's just one game, but was there optimism that
they were going to be back or was there sort

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of some skepticism that, hey, man, a lot of things
went our way last year and Super Bowl hangovers are
real and the offseason wasn't exactly quiet for a lot
of reasons there?

Speaker 4 (42:37):
I think the.

Speaker 8 (42:37):
Realistic people, yeah, I think there was a good amount
of realistic people around here that looked at it. So
the schedule was very, very favorable last year. Injury luck
went their way. 14 wins was probably a bit of
a mirage. And then, you know, you see obvious in
the playoffs, they've got the Chargers, their tackles are down.

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the Texans Stroud, you know, like had a complete meltdown
in that game. And then the Broncos didn't have their
starting quarterback and they're in the AFC championship game. So
I do think that there was, you know, I, I
think a lot of people took a realistic look at
that and said, you know, like this is probably closer
to a 10 or 11 win team. And maybe that's

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how it manifests this year. So I think like most
people expected a step back. I, I think last night
was a little bit worse than, and just based on
the fact that like Sam Darnold was hurt on the
first series and the way that Drake may play down
the stretch, they're going to probably get beat up pretty

(43:43):
good on the, on the radio here today. Cause I
think like, Even if the expectations were measured, some things
happened last night that maybe would have changed everybody's view
of what a close loss for the Seahawks would have
otherwise been.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
That wasn't my takeaway. I thought they looked pretty good.
I thought their defense looks good. I think their defense
will do a lot for them as the year progresses forward.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
And on offense, there's the potential. I mean, he had
a rough showing. It's their first game.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
I'm not dooming gloom on them. It was a very
hard-fought game. It was a close game, as my cohorts
would say. It was a sloppy game, but it was
game one. I mean, are they supposed to go out
there and be lawless and what goes on and what happens?

Speaker 8 (44:35):
I'm with you, LeVar. Like, I honestly, like, I think...
I think week one is a liar, you know what
I mean? Like I think week one and we see
this every year, right? Like, and it's not, I mean, look,
we all have air time to fill and call them
inches to fill and all that different stuff.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
Right.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
Like, so there's, you know, like I don't blame anybody
for reacting to week one, but I, my experience is
that generally week one lies, you know, and you know,
there's just a different dynamic to that week than any
other week of the season and and, you know, like
you get some funky results in week one that make
you believe things that aren't really true. You know, and then,

(45:15):
like you said, I think there's this element of it
that there's going to be some sloppy play, and, you know,
in certain games, you know, some teams are going to
pay more than others for that sloppy play. I think
you certainly saw that last night. I mean, there was a,
you know, the Patriots' 10 points came off of a,
And the first one was off the pass interference call, right?

(45:37):
And the second one was off the roughing the punter.
You know, and then, you know, the Seahawks score on
a fourth and one, on a throw on a fourth
and one. So it was just kind of a weird
game all the way around.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
The Seahawks couldn't get their offense going too well either.
It felt like both defenses. They knocked him out.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
How much did they say they don't have their quarterback?

Speaker 6 (46:01):
They knocked him out. They didn't come in without their quarterback.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
They sent him out. Goodbye, Sam.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
But again, The next guy didn't even practice the play
through a touchdown pass onto Smith and Jigba. So it's
kind of tough. I want to transition to the game
we're about to see. In regards to the travel, a
lot's been made of San Francisco being there, L.A. taking
as late of a flight possible.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I mean, what are you hearing kind of is supposed
to be the advantage? Like I kind of have an
idea because my wife obviously competed internationally a lot.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
So she has her theory on all this, but I'm
curious to hear yours, Albert.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Well, I'm curious to hear yours after I give you mine.
I would say I think with the Rams, you know,
it's interesting. They've sent players over there for ambassador trips
and that sort of stuff. They're trying to develop the
market from a business standpoint and all of that. So
they did take some feedback that they got from some
guys who've made the trip. And I think doing their research,

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what it came down to for them was not wanting
to make that big a deal of this. And what
I mean by that is... They wanted to prevent it
bleeding into week two. And their theory on this, and, again,
you can argue with this if you want. I'd love
to hear, you know, your wife's feelings on it because

(47:27):
you've got experience with it. But it's like if we
can gut it out and we can go over there
and we can manage our sleep on the plane– and
we can just go play and come back. We won't
have to reacclimate. So we're not, like, compounding the week
one problem with a week two problem, you.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
Know, so to speak.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
And so we'll be able to get back to Los
Angeles on Friday, and then we'll have the extra rest
for week two. and we should be ready to go,
whereas for the Niners, they're taking a full week to acclimate,
which may put them in a better position to play
well in week one, but now you're talking about having

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to sort of do the re-acclimation all over again, or
the acclimation all over again when you get back to
the States.

Speaker 7 (48:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
So I guess, you know, her philosophy was more about
traveling to the international destination, not so much recovering to
come back because when they come back, they're off for
a period of time.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
They're not in the middle of the season.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
So her thing was you just try to avoid competing
on the third day. And obviously, San Francisco will do that.
The Rams will do that because of how tight they're
flying in and out. And I kind of presented the options.
She's like, ah, she's like, I would probably rather acclimated
and been there longer if I'm San Fran than if
I was LA, if.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
It's just for this one game. So take that for
what it's worth.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I do think there's science that backs up both sides.

Speaker 8 (48:50):
The third day theory, I guess it'd be like, that's
when it actually really hits you.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
You know, that's when it's the worst.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It was right.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
And it's funny enough.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Cause I remember she brought this up when we went
over with the Broncos to play San Francisco and London.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
And I said, I told her the schedule and she goes,
that's going to be a disaster. She's like, you guys
are competing on your third day.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
She's like, that's when you guys are going to feel
your worst. And I don't know that our team could
have came out any more flat for a game than
that one in particular.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
So that maybe there's something to that theory. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Maybe they should have just stayed in America and played.

Speaker 8 (49:24):
I mean, this really is unprecedented.

Speaker 10 (49:28):
I mean, I just know from my own experience.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
I've been to that part of the world once.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
It was for my honeymoon.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
We went to Bali.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
We flew New York to Hong Kong.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
And I remember getting off the plane.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
We left on Sunday night late. and arrived Tuesday morning
as the.

Speaker 10 (49:43):
Sun was coming up. It was the most disorienting.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Thing in the world.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
It's just like, holy crap, what just happened?

Speaker 8 (49:50):
It'll be interesting. Look, it's a lot of people on
a football team. You know what I mean? I certainly
think you can leave open the possibility that it's going
to affect some guys more than.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
It is others.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB,
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on
X at Albert Breer. What's next for J.J. McCarthy now
that he's QB3 in Minnesota?

Speaker 8 (50:17):
Yeah, I think probably a redshirt year.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
And a year of development.

Speaker 8 (50:23):
When I was there in the summer, I sort of
got the idea that that was something he really needed.
And that was something that would be really good for him.
And look, I don't know what he's going to be five.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Years from now, ten years from now.

Speaker 10 (50:38):
I do know he's a.

Speaker 12 (50:39):
Good, well-intentioned kid who wants to do right. And I
think is going to embrace the opportunity that he has in.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Front of him.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
And this is a.

Speaker 8 (50:47):
Chance for Kevin O'Connell to put his money where his
mouth is, too.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
Just in that.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
He said over and over again that organizations fail quarterbacks
more than quarterbacks fail organizations.

Speaker 10 (50:59):
Well, here's a good example of a.

Speaker 12 (51:01):
Guy who, you know, has sort of washed out of
his first opportunity. And normally that guy would be going
to get his second opportunity somewhere else. And Kevin said
some of that stuff in reference to guys like Baker
Mayfield and Sam Darnold. Well, you know, what happens if
the guy gets his second.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Opportunity in the same place he got his first? What
does that look like?

Speaker 10 (51:22):
So it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
You know, I think for Kevin, it's, you know, there
is a genuine desire to want to keep working with
him and see where he can take it.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
And, you know, I think the hope.

Speaker 10 (51:33):
Is that whether it's for the Vikings or, or someone else.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
That JJ would be better for having a year of development.
Cause he hasn't really had that. I mean, like last year,
obviously you had the injuries, you had the injury is, is, is,
is rookie year. He's never really had a.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
Chance to develop through a season. So maybe he gets
that now.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I don't know about that, but yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Laquan Treadwell, he, he made it onto a roster. it's,
I know it's a story off of the beating path AB,
but I'm just curious, do you have any insight to it?
Like seven years off didn't, you know, didn't play and
finds his way onto a roster out that he was

(52:20):
a big time, uh, prospect coming out of college, big
time prospect going into college when he went to Ole Miss,
I believe is where he went. Um, Do you have
any intel on, on that story in particular? I know
it's kind of, again, that's not, not a mainstream story,
but I thought it was a pretty cool story.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Seven years. He hasn't been in the league.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Speaker 0 1.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (52:47):
He made, he made it onto the Colts roster and it's,
it's an interesting story in that.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
I mean, what draft class was he?

Speaker 10 (52:54):
And I don't have it in front of me.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
I think it was like, was he 20 19?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Is that right? Or no?

Speaker 8 (53:00):
2016, 2016.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Oh my God. 2016. Wow.

Speaker 10 (53:05):
So, I mean, my first– Am I blanking?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Was he not with the Ravens and Seattle?

Speaker 5 (53:12):
He was drafted by the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Like, yeah, so he was with the Vikings.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yeah, he played for Atlanta, Jacksonville, Seattle, Baltimore, Indianapolis for
the last two years.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
He's been out.

Speaker 10 (53:22):
Yeah, because I was thinking of 16 because.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
The kids– He's played in games.

Speaker 12 (53:26):
Yeah, that's right, though, because he was with Kim Dietschy,
who was.

Speaker 8 (53:30):
Another story altogether at Ole Miss, right?

Speaker 7 (53:34):
That was NIL before NIL.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
Maybe the way the story was framed was incorrect, but
I know he's.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Been in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
He started games for Jacksonville back in 2021.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
He played in games last year for the Colts.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
How many games did he play in? Ten.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
He played special teams.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
Well, maybe it was a misprint of the story, but
I thought it was based off of him being out
of the league for the number I saw was like
seven years.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
LeVar, first of all, I think a lot of credit
to him. There are a lot of guys who say
they love.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Football, but won't go through.

Speaker 8 (54:12):
Well, you have to go through when you're down like that,
you know?

Speaker 10 (54:15):
And so I think you give him a lot of
credit for, for sticking.

Speaker 8 (54:18):
With it and, and, and, and, and finding a place
the way that he's found a place in Indianapolis. And
what's interesting about their situation is they got Alec Pierce
coming back off the injury. Josh towns is banged up
during camp.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
They don't have a lot of depth there. Michael Pittman's
in Pittsburgh now.

Speaker 12 (54:32):
That's why they brought Keenan Allen in Keenan Allen, obviously
had the off field issue.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
So like, you know, I, I think.

Speaker 12 (54:39):
It's, it's a good example of a guy who who's
kept chipping away and, and, you know, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (54:44):
I don't know if I'm expecting big things for.

Speaker 10 (54:46):
Him, but, but yeah, I mean, obviously good for him.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I was just curious.

Speaker 6 (54:49):
I mean, if, if the story's off, the story's off,
but I was just curious as to what, like what
was different, like, how do you, how do you make
it back in or how do you get on a roster?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
But, I guess if he was already playing on the roster.

Speaker 8 (55:03):
Yeah, I would say the other part of it that's important, too,
is being in the right place at the right time.
I mean, the Colts have a real depth issue at receiver,
so they could definitely use the help.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
On the roster.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Yeah, I mean, when I called the game there last year,
he's on the roster. He's playing special teams. He hasn't
played as much as a wide receiver.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Yeah, that was an interesting weekend.

Speaker 4 (55:25):
Yeah, I mean, some guys transition from being that to–
That was. Thank you for bringing that up. Way to go, A.B.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Speaking of interesting weekends, Albert, I think I know where
you're going to go with this, but overall thoughts of Michigan,
Western Michigan.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
In the final. Here we go.

Speaker 5 (55:46):
So, like, as you might.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
Imagine, my tech groups are active.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
In the 11 o'clock hour on Saturday night.

Speaker 10 (55:55):
I would say at first, like, we were all a
little disappointed. And then, like, by Sunday, I think.

Speaker 5 (56:00):
Everybody had landed on, oh, this is even better. because
of the field storming.

Speaker 10 (56:06):
Which, I mean, if you look at like the Michigan student.

Speaker 12 (56:09):
Section, it kind of looks like maybe some people are
attending their first football game, which, you know, might be
why there was a field storming. And then, you know,
like just kind of, I like the, the over the
top reaction back and forth. Look, man, like I think
it sort of, to me, like highlighted the problems that

(56:30):
gambling bring the gambling presents for, for sports too, just
in that, like, you know, you've opened the door now.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
For all kinds of questions on whether something's on the
up and up.

Speaker 12 (56:40):
You know, I, it didn't seem like the, the, the
people officiating the thing had full command over, over what
the actual rules and the protocols were, unless there was
something untoward that happened.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
It's gotta be one or the other. I don't know, man.

Speaker 10 (56:56):
Like, and, and I thought, I mean, I, I don't know, Brady,
what'd you think of how Bryce Underwood looked?

Speaker 4 (57:03):
I thought he looked like he struggled mightily.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
And I don't know if that's a matter of a
new system, a matter of holding some stuff back, thinking
you could be a Mac opponent.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Because you have Oklahoma this week.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
But it looked like to me he struggled to process
and he struggled to see the field.

Speaker 8 (57:19):
Yeah, I mean, it looked to me like Brent Venables
isn't the defensive coach that you want to be going
up against, you know, the week after.

Speaker 10 (57:27):
Something like that.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
So, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (57:32):
I have a lot of respect for Kyle Whittingham.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
I think he's done a great job, but I just...
this was the first time I looked at him on
a sideline.

Speaker 10 (57:40):
I mean, he looks kind of old, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Like, and he looked like such a bad-ass at Utah
and everything else.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
And I was just like, I don't know, maybe it's
my own biases, but I was like, man, like this does.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
Not look right. You know?

Speaker 6 (57:53):
And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:54):
And again, like, I don't know what it is. And
it just, it just kind of hit me.

Speaker 10 (57:58):
And again, I got a ton of respect.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
For what he did at Utah was really incredible 20
year run that he had there, you know, but it, I, um,
I'm not overly worried about late November.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Um, can I.

Speaker 7 (58:11):
Ask you, because you, uh, first of all, you, uh,
you age shamed Kyle Whittingham there.

Speaker 10 (58:15):
I didn't age shame him, but I just.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
It was, it just kind of hit me. Like, it
was just like, wow.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Like it did look different.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
It did look different.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
It'd be like, uh, Kirk Ferentz being somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
You just were so accustomed.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
To seeing him in Utah.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
Maybe that, maybe that's just it. Maybe it's just what
you said.

Speaker 8 (58:35):
If Kirk Ferentz all of a sudden popped up at
USC or something, that's weird.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
But you also mentioned that the people that stormed the field,
it looked like there was a lot of first-time... football
viewers like people that are attending their first game oh
you got that yeah so what what is uh how
would you describe that look for somebody who would storm
the field in ann arbor as i mean i feel.

Speaker 10 (58:59):
Like there's always i feel like there's always been parts
of the michigan.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Student section that looked like a star Wars convention. I
can leave it at that. What is.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
It?

Speaker 8 (59:13):
I mean, I mean, Brady, you've been there a lot.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
I'm just calling it. Like I see it.

Speaker 8 (59:17):
I don't think you disagree. I don't think you disagree
with me.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I'm not going to go that far. I'll say this much.
They have the worst, in my opinion, the worst tradition
in college football going into the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 (59:31):
Playing Mr.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Brightside, which doesn't feel like a football song and has
zero origin to it. They just started playing it. To me,
I cannot stand this.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
But Brady, especially now.

Speaker 10 (59:48):
Especially now.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Well, OK, you can you can dive into that. I'm
just saying it didn't matter if it was then. It
didn't matter if it was last year, three years ago
or this year.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
It is the.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Worst tradition in college sports for a sport that is
known for its tradition, the history, the pageantry. When you
talk about, you know, jump around and Wisconsin and how
that came about. There's a story behind it. It's why
they continue to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Michigan? Oh, no, we just didn't think it was a
good song. Yeah, we all do it at the end
of the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
It is the stupidest thing, one of the stupidest things,
that takes place between the third and fourth.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Quarter in all of college sports.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
And by the way, aren't the Killers Mormon? Shouldn't BYU
have that song?

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Are they mormon i think so yeah i think the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Killers are mormon first off even if they're not jonas
has never been afraid to get out in front of something.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Never at all yeah never at all yeah i will
jump all in on that no.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Problem can you give us an update on cleveland what
what what's the thought process in cleveland with the quarterbacks
obviously it's watson but what you know what are they
gonna do with dylan.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
Gabriel Yeah, I would say, I mean, like, I think
there are, I think it's going to be a process
of management over.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
The course of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Hold on, A.B.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
We haven't moved on from the Mormon thing in Brightside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Hold on, A.B.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
No, it's Jonas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I tried to keep us on track. Albert, you got
to understand, Jonas.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Will say things.

Speaker 10 (01:01:22):
It felt like something just hit.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
The text group that I'm not on.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
No, we actually did our research, and Jonas will always
jump out and say things that he doesn't know if
they're true or not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
And then just blatantly lie.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Like, for example, they're not, but she's not a Christian
rock group.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
The lead singer is the only one that's Mormon.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
All right. So what is your four members in that band?
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I got 25% of that, right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Can I get a little credit here? And it's the
lead singer.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Like he's the most important person. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
See, you're kind of practicing Mormon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
He is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
The point is it doesn't make sense at the big house.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Really?

Speaker 10 (01:02:03):
I played in high school with two Mormons.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
And we had good Mormon, bad Mormon. So I've seen
both sides.

Speaker 10 (01:02:09):
That was actually their nickname too.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Dang.

Speaker 8 (01:02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
So, uh, So I feel a little awkward.

Speaker 8 (01:02:20):
Do we want to go back to the Browns?

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
I would like to know about what's going to happen
with them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
But I mean, clearly.

Speaker 10 (01:02:26):
That I, I, here's where I would say LaVar, I
think Deshaun.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
Watson, I think they, they, they, they want a final
answer on what Deshaun Watson is. as a starting quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
And I, and I think.

Speaker 12 (01:02:41):
They're very cognizant of what it's going to look like
in week three. If he doesn't come, if he doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:02:45):
Play well in the first two weeks, especially.

Speaker 12 (01:02:48):
Because Baker way Mayfield's waiting for them in week two.
So Jacksonville this week, that's.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
A tough opponent.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
You know, then you got the, then you got your
old quarterback, Baker Mayfield, who you, you know, traded away
to make way for Deshaun Watson in 2021. If you
look good, if you look good, if you look bad
against those two teams or as 2022, if you look
bad against those two teams, I think it's probably pretty
tough to bring Deshaun Watson back into that stadium in

(01:03:17):
week three. You know, I think he's got a couple
of weeks to show what he's got and show that
he's still that, that, that, that, that, that something from,
from something, anything from Houston is still there. And you know,
and then I think you see after that, but I
think the whole year is going to be a process
of evaluating that position because obviously they've got resources next

(01:03:38):
year with a couple of.

Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
First round picks to, to, to.

Speaker 12 (01:03:42):
Go and get a quarterback and plug them into what
I think has actually got a chance to to be
a pretty decent young core. If you look at the
guys they drafted the last two years, uh, AB, we.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Got 10 seconds. Uh, you like Ohio state over Texas.
I'm assuming.

Speaker 6 (01:03:55):
Yes.

Speaker 10 (01:03:57):
I hope so.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
I think it's gonna be really close.

Speaker 12 (01:03:59):
Um, I think it's, I think tech Texas is really talented.
So I'm interested to see the way that this one
plays out. Um, I, you know, I, I, I think
there's a lot more pressure on Texas than there is on.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
Ohio state, you know?

Speaker 8 (01:04:11):
And so I think that's, that's part of the dynamic
pressure on arch pressure on Sark.

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
A.V., we appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
The correction, by the way, was it's the first time
he made the initial 53-man roster in seven years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Tread well, that is. There you go. That was the correction,
by the way.

Speaker 6 (01:04:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Maybe he's Mormon, too. Maybe he is Mormon. Maybe he
went on a mission.

Speaker 8 (01:04:46):
Maybe he just found God and that made the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
You know, that happens. That definitely happens. Get him on
X at Albert Breer. AB will do it again next week.
There he is.

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