March 6, 2026 • 42 mins
Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington fill in for Colin as they discuss the inevitable return of Jayson Tatum to the Boston Celtics after his devastating knee injury last year. Plus, the guys react to the news of Geno Smith being released by the Raiders, talk about the potential of Fernando Mendoza in Las Vegas, we have JJ Redick's comments on Herdline News, and more!!
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hey, hey, and away we go on a Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
It's the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, but no Colin.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
It is LeVar Arrington and Jonas Knox sitting in for
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so and.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
We are off and running on this Friday. What up? Sticks, Hey,
we're awake?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeh?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
What I'm talking about doing a show in the daylights?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And man, you you wrap bastards in. You're six to
seven hours sleep a night. You guys got a good
real good. You've got a good no. One am wake
up call for us. A little bit of traffic on
the one to one slash four h five, but we
are rocking and rolling here and ready to go. And
since we're back in this chair and it's been a
little while, it's appropriate we talk about somebody who.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Was also back.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Jason Tatum, less than ten months after suffering the achilles
tear in the playoff game against the New York Knicks,
will be in the lineup for the Boston Celtics coming
up later on tonight against the Dallas Mavericks. I know, LaVar,
you've dealt with the achilles issue before. I'm kind of
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surprised that he's back this soon. But here we go
with return to Jason Tatum to an already really good
Boston Celtics team who probably didn't expect they were going
to be in this spot at this point in the year.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
A really good Jalen Brown led Boston Celtics team, we
should add and listen, I look at it like this.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
The.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Professional even just any type of competition, right college, pro,
even high school.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
When you've established.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Yourself as the guy, you're the franchise, things are handled
a certain type of way, you do things, a certain
type of way, you're treated a certain type of way.
The respect factor is very different. When you get injured,
there's a moment of truth. Right, it either solidifies further
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solidifies your efforts that you've put forth as a healthy
player and how the team has been able to accomplish.
And when that that that participation is gone due to
an injury, it either shows yep, Jason Tatum is the
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reason why we are able to win. We got a championship,
world title. We were set for.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The future.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Right, you got a sidekick in Jalen Brown, But Jason
Tatum is the guy. Jason Tatum goes down. But yet
this team is second in the Eastern Conference. They're seventy
forty one and twenty one on the season, and they're
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in great position to make a deep run in the
NBA playoffs. It has emerged that Jalen Brown could be
in the conversation of being the new face and franchise
player for this Celtics team. So now Jason Tatum is
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tasked with not only coming back and playing, but now
he may be saddled with the pressure of coming back
as quickly as he possibly can. Before you realize that
the value of you being the franchise guy all but
dissipates fully from the situation.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's a really interesting call by Boston by Tatum, because
if they weren't this good, I wonder if this is
even a conversation, because if you look at two other
examples around the league, Damian Lillard and Tyrese Haliburton both
tore their achilles in the playoffs last year, there's not
even a thought that they're going to come back because
those two teams are awful. Okay, the highlight of the
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Blazer season thus far was a guy with the ruptured
achilles winning the three point Contest.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Which, by the way, he went back to the Blazer right,
considering that he tore it somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, they didn't need him there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So the two highlights for the Blazers this year, not
not to call out the Blazers fan base, but your
two highlights are an injured guy winning the three point
contest and your coach involved in some poker scheme.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, so like you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Got card counters and three point shootout winners, you don't
have a good team, all right, Maybe maybe a little
bit better and expected and then Indiana is awful. Okay,
whatever happened last year in Indiana, they are the diaper
fire of the East. They might finish with the worst
record in the league. And so the Pacers and Blazers
are like, hey, guys, take your time. Take does take
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your time. You know, we've got a legitimate excuse this year.
We're terrible. All of a sudden, Boston starts out the
year and it's like, whoa Nobody thought this was gonna happen.
There was the feeling was, hey man, it's a throwaway year.
And it's not even just the Jason Tatum stuff. Al
Horford gone, Drew Holiday gone, Chris SOPs porzingis gone. Those
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were all key members of the title team just a
couple of years ago. But they were trying to get
below the second apron. So they just said, hey man,
these are salary cap casualties, is what it is. This
isn't our year, Our best players gone. We'll just roll out.
We'll try and compete as hard as we can. Maybe
we'll sneak in and be a seven or an eight team,
will be in the play in tournament, whatever, but we're
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just going to roll this season. Then we're really going
to focus on twenty twenty seven, and then all of
a sudden, they're this through sixty plus games, and I
just wonder, are you making this decision if not for
the fact that this team's a legitimate title contender, especially
with Tatum back.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's again, the points you make are accurate points, right,
the teams that you're discussing, they aren't competitive teams. You
look at the Celtics team and where they were at,
and the conversations that were were ensuing were taking place
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in real time. It was always Jason Tatum and Jaylen
Brown and being in second place. Jason Tatum is not
available all season long, and Jalen Brown is averaging what
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is it, twenty nine points seven rebounds per game, and
they're a top the Eastern Eastern Conference. So there's second
second place. If you're looking at where things go from
here on out, does it go back to Jason Tatum
and Jalen Brown or does it stay Jalen Brown and
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Jason Tatum and insert Jason Tatum that I think that
that is a very real conversation. I think the Celtics
feel confident about where they're at outside of there being
some really, really big names like SGA is in pole
position to get MVP again.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You're seeing what if.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't know if y'all watched Winby last night, but
Wemby is balling.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I saw him hanging out outside of a car dealership.
There's some sale going on.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
As long as this desk, his foot is, as long
as this desk would sitting there doing.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
This, Him and chet Holmren should just go as win
puppets for Halloween the next seventy years. Just do that
costume covered cheap, inexpensive, throw some drapes on and let it.
Let's call it a day. Wemby takes two steps his foot.
The tip of his toe from getting a rebound is
at mid court and two steps. Oh yeah, the tip
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of his toe is at mid court and two steps.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, he doesn't have one.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
They're talking about Michael Jordan and Doctor j doing dunks
from from the free throw line. Wemby's toe he in
his reach. He could probably move it back to I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, we're gonna start seeing Winby take off and he's
gonna do the dunk contest. He's gonna take off ford
court and dunk the ball like that. Never seen before
on his ass hit long brouh and and his foot
still gonna be on the ground at big court when
he takes off.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He's just a super stretch. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Outside of these high profile guys being up for the MVP,
Jalen Brown's name is in the conversation for league MVP
this year, some of them as high as two.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
DeMarcus Cousins has gone on.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Record says he's as high as the second best player
in the NBA all the way up to six to eight,
where his name falls in terms of best Player MVP.
But if we're being real, if we're being real, does
Jalen Brown have the same supporting cast that SGA does?
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Does he have the same supporting cast as what wim
Bin Yama has. I would say, No, you just mentioned
some Orford's gone on, Jason Tatum hasn't been around. There's
a different group of people. It's a new group of
people this season for the Celtics, and yet they're playing
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at a high level, which would lead to the conversation
of is he the most valuable player to his team?
Maybe they're not the best team, but they're certainly up
there with the best teams. So you can use the
criteria that they have a really competitive team, a good
team that's ranked high because you have to win for
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them to consider you an MVP. And now you see
Jason Tatum sitting back watching like, I can't let the
ship get too far. He's swimming, bro, it ain't it's
not boarding the ship. That ship has sailed. But can
he catch it and ken he board this ship and
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and re establish himself for what it was that he
wanted was before the injury.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And that's what I wonder is does he feel like
like if they were, you know, a five hundred team,
is he in any rush to get back?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Na?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Na, take your time, take your time, take your time.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I can understand the approach of well, if you're
doing this good without him, why would you even force
the issue? But I wonder how much of this is him?
How much of this is Tatum going? Man, I want
back in like I. And that's why I asked, because
you went through the Achilles what I was retired?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like? What does that look like?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
That thing had a grown man in tears, bruh. And
I got a pretty high paying threshold and I limped.
I limped for like two three years after I got
that surgery, like it was.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
A very painful.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I've been through some painful things both, yeah, you know,
both both a lean and a limp, you know, because
when you when you yeah, when you're moving around with
that hammer, sometimes you lean and sometimes you limp. But
this one in particular was based off of me limping
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because my achilles tendant was really tight, it was really sore,
and it just felt like you if you don't know
what it feels like to injure a part as important
as your achilles, you realize it after. And I likened
it to like air and attire. I didn't realize you
could say, okay, air and attire for your feet and
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for your legs. But it really felt like the bounce
and the reactiveness of my foot was gone. It was gone.
Like the movement of how you pop off of your
toes and on your foot, and that torque that goes
through the bottom of your leg into your calf muscle
and then shoots up into your quads and then back
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into the glutes.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was gone.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It was gone, and so you have to figure out
many have done it. I mean, it's very commonplace to
come back from that type of injury and that type
of procedure. Many have done it, but it is very
difficult and it is time consuming. It's almost as time
consuming and it's almost I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The biggest I believe it's the biggest.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Ligament in your body, your acl I mean, you're you're
achilles tendon. It's the biggest tendon in your body. And
it's just that's a difficult injury to come back from
and be effective like you once were, let alone come
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back in an abbreviated amount of time to do.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So we're gonna catch up with doctor David Chow coming
up later on as soon as he gets done sparring
Ryan Leaf at an octagon somewhere, whenever that gets gets
figured out. But but I bring that up because Reggie
Miller was on the Dan Patrick Show, which you can
hear on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates, and
he sort of explained the reasoning why some feel that
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Tatum is also coming back sooner than a Tyrese Haliburton
and a Dame Lillard.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
The best thing if there was knock on Wood, the
best thing when he tore his achilles in Game five,
I believe in New York that the doctor was right there,
that they attached it right away, and the thinking was
the body didn't even know that it had that traumatic experience.
That's how quickly within twenty four hours they had the
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surgery on the achilles. So that's why he is so
far ahead of schedule versus a Damian Lillard or Tyrese
Halliburton is because they had the surgery within twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
You're not buying that. What you hell now? You know,
Reggie Miller MT. You're not going to buy his thought
process there.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
First of all, the body is way more intelligent than
any doctor that will ever work on you.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, and look at it, Jason Tatum. After the injury,
it sure seemed like his body knew it was going on.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Don't give it time to know that it's torn like
uh like, then then just finish the game.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
He looked like the guy going through the wood chipper
on Fargo.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
How many how much time is that that you have
that to to elapse before your body knew that that's
your dad? You know, like that they just give him
some mouth to mouth before he realized that he died.
You know, it's a theory I love Reggie Miller, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Not in on this one. I'm not you heard dad, like,
oh really, huh?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Like I go to break Reggie is he's officially lost,
you know, and he's passing the message on from whatever
you know was said on the documentary. I just look,
and people heal differently and people heal faster.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That is true. I mean people heal different.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Adrian Peterson came back from that knee injury in what
and was like there was no difference between when he
came back from knee injury and when he didn't, other
than you know, not being able to keep his left
hand up in a scuffle after a poker game. But
that again, we're not bringing up the old stuff. But
so there's different people healed differently. I understand that timelines
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can be a little different. It just feels like a
lot of this was sped up because of how the
team is done without him. If they were five hundred,
if they were below five hundred, I don't think there's
a shot in hell he could.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
That would have been a better question to ask Reggie Miller.
That would have been a better question, like did not
happen with Clay and Steph Curry. Wasn't Clay Thompson the
main dude? And then in some way, somehow, I don't
know if injury was connected to it, but didn't Steph
Curry like take the reins like they you know, like
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became the main guy and it never changed, never turned back.
He became the franchise guy. He became the face of
the franchise, legend, hall of fame. Er, goat, there's not
going to be a better player that has ever played
for the Golden State Warriors then Golden State.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Then Steph Curry. So I think this is a necessity move.
Whether that's the entirety of it. It doesn't have to
be untrue that he wants to come back and he
wants to play, of course, but if you're not going
to add into the equation the amount of pressure mounting
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on Jason Tatum looking at this Jalen Brown led team,
Like imagine if Michael Jordan went out and was injured
due to acl or achilles tendon injury and while he's out,
Scottie Pippen is just going nuts.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Look at look at the Nick Foles, Carson Wentz stuff.
Carson Wentz was never the same. It was never the same,
and like hell, he don't have a he don't have
a statue, and he was on that team. That knee
injury that he he suffered against the Rams at the Coliseum,
which by the way, is an outhouse, or at least
it was back then, But that injury he suffered at
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the Coliseum that changed the course of his career because
where's he?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Where's he now? I think he's in Minnesota? Is he
he's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think there it is because I think he always
felt like, wow, I was on track to be an
MVP and potentially a super Bowl champion as a starter
and maybe a Super Bowl MVP, and instead my backup
went in there and did it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
He was I don't think he ever got over there.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
They call the place went win Sylvania.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, there was a moment in time where they said Winsylvania.
That's how well he was doing that season. You couldn't
grow any more hype and excitement around the players. So
you're one hundred percent spot on in that that that reference.
And need I say, Jay Brown is a number one
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guy on of the NBA teams and also, by the way,
when they won their title. Who is the MVP of
those finals?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Salen Brown?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So like it's not it's not as if you know
this is a real surprise, but it does. It does
bring up an interesting dynamic of Amen, what does that?
What does that look like?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I'm the captain of his ship? Now player, Hey my ship,
I'm the captain. Now I'm the captain.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
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We're going to get his thoughts on the situation involving
Jason Tate and some other stuff around uh the NFL
as well too, some injured stars, what their value really
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LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin and Crewe. In
about twenty minutes from now, we are going to have
another edition of The herdline news that'll be yours right
here on FSR. But we do have some news out
of the NFL and what a run it was. Gino
Smith's been released by the Las Vegas Raiders. Highlights for
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Geno Smith include LeVar go ahead, there you go?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
All right on this season? Uh Okay, there you go.
You know, I get the.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Look Sam Donald winning Sam Donald because I want to
be I want to be kind of about this because I
like Geno Smith, all right, he seems like he seems
like a good guy from everything I've heard.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
But you know, maybe not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Maybe you know, he had something to do with Chip
Kelly getting clipped and blamed for everybody had.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Something to do with getting clipped. I mean, you know, there.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Could be that too, but I think everybody deserved probably
a little bit of blame there. But the Geno Smith
Pete Carroll decision by the Raiders ill advised based on
based on what happened last year. And I know that
I get the thought process behind it. It was, you know,
Geno Smith and Pete Carroll have a great relationship. Pete
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Carroll helped revitalized Geno Smith's career when he got to Seattle.
They did some really good things, and the thought was,
all right, well let's bring him here and let's pair
these guys back up together. And if you just look
at what happened to Seattle this year, where there was
a clear decision to move on from Pete Carroll, there
was a clear decision to move on from Geno Smith,
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and I said at the time, I didn't really understand
what the difference was between Geno Smith and Sam Darnold.
And just to see the way that this turned out
in Las Vegas, just a brutal experience for everybody involved
to where they looked like they got worse every year,
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and the thought was, well, you can't do worse than
Antonio Pierce. No, upon further review, that wasn't Antonio piers problem,
all right. There was just issues there because that team stunk.
And so now Gino Smith finds himself, you know, on
the market. You know, we'll probably get picked up somewhere else.
Made a good amount of cash there in Las Vegas
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with the Raiders. But the Geno Smith era in Las
Vegas ends as he is released by the Raiders earlier today.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Uh eleven years. How long has he been in the league?
Has been in the league a long time?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, Uh, listen, he got comeback Player of the Year,
he was able to make a Pro Bowl, and I
believe twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty three
he has done well for himself as a player. A
lot of a lot of players who enter the NFL
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entered the league and played for a disfunction organization. It's
very rare that you see them have great careers. In fact,
most of them disappear and you never hear of the
go to football purgatory or find themselves in the abyss
of a failing NFL career. I'll raise my hand, I'm
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one of them. So when you look at what Geno
Smith was able to do and resurrecting his career, getting
to Seattle and being a part of the resurgence and
the setup of where the Seattle Seahawks would eventually get
to a year removed from him and going and winning
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a Super Bowl, I don't think he has anything to
be ashamed of. And when you look at the success
they were able to have, jeez, what they were able
to do in Seattle together him and Pete Carroll again,
Pee Carroll had a horrible season as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Geno Smith did.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Not have a great year as a QB. Both are
now gone from the team. And then I would say, again,
what's next for Geno Smith? Is it is it a rap?
Does it go somewhere and be a backup? Does he
still have an opportunity to be a starter? In this league,
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it's potentially maybe through injury. I don't think he goes
to another team as the starter of the team. You're
not going into the market place, even as poor of
a free agency class as this is this year, You're
not going into the marketplace as being sought after as
a starting quarterback. I would I would assume that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Again, I mean, where it's just me and you today,
maybe it's safe.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
For me to assume and not get reprimanded for assuming
with my opinion that that would be what it is.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Okay, Now, I mean, what do you take?
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So do you think, I mean, well, are you are
you looking at him as a starter on a free him?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But but if you're Geno Smith, I mean, you know,
maybe not the worst experience in the world. Just I mean, listen,
the team was awful. I mean, just a dreadful, dreadful
team to watch. But you know, he got a two year,
seventy five million dollar extension when he when he got there,
so the Raiders, you know, he made he made some
good money, as I mentioned, and he's going to be
out there and and he's he's, at least to this
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point in his career, a solid veteran backup who man
those guys in the NFL you can cash checks for years.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Sure, and he's not.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Let's be clear, he is not the focal point blame
of the Raiders and they're and they're lack of success.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, it was a real group effort you gave.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You gave the examples of the coaching staffs and and
the people have come through. There's also a litany of
players that have also come through there that could have
made them better, a better team. Again, I say this
on our show. You listen to Pros and Cup of
Joe when you get the opportunity too. It's a little early,
but on the East Coast, it's right on time for
you getting into work. I always say, you cannot expect
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talent to outperform. Dysfunction can happen. Some people say, like
some people have stated and given examples of Okay, this
was a dysfunctional team, they were able to win data.
I do not subscribe to the fact or idea that
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talent can outperform dysfunction, and the Las Vegas Raiders are
one of the best examples of that statement.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
It's why you never hear of a golfer who grew
up poor, you know what I mean? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, what golfer's growing up poor? You know they've been
in country clubs or whole life.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That much money, you know. I mean there's two different golfers.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
There's those guys and then there's like me and my
son who we just do mini punt.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So John, y'all aren't poor. So there's there's that.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Well, your your son isn't growing up poor? Well, I mean,
it depends, it depends.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
It just made. It depends. You saw what I drove
in this morning with that's by choice.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
The grills falling off, but that's by choice one side,
one side is falling apart much.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Your wife is driving, Your wife is driving. Well, there's
a lawnmore in the back right now. I can't bring
it out here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So with that being said, still that's a solid joke
that the four people got. But with that being said,
there was an update to the Raiders Planet quarterback because
it clearly doesn't involve Geno Smith, who's going to be released.
As we mentioned, Diana Rossini of The Athletic reports that
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if the Raiders continue to lean toward drafting Fernanda Mendoza
with the number one pick, in April's draft. Their preference
is to not start him immediately, look for Vegas to
bring in a veteran quarterback and free agency, and.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Who would that be that would be better than Geno Smith?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well not probably cheaper than Geno Smith. I say, okay,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Garoppolo, but maybe that might be a little too expensive.
I don't. I mean, look, they they can go down
this road that is.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean, look, I'm just bringing like I don't know,
I'm just throwing out that's what we're going. Well, think
about it this way. If they're saying we're not starting,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It's too good looking. Well, I mean he's been there
before exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, he's probably got still too good looking, probably got
some tabs.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Maybe his habits are still bad habits.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
You gotta gotta.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Develop, break bake, break bad habits developed. But if there's
a place to go to to kind of blend in,
that's the spot. If you're going to take a certain
somebody out there, because you're gonna lose anyway, but so
you might as well have other things to do while
you're there. So I wonder this if they're if their preferences,
we don't want Fernanda Mendoza starting right away, which is
kind of wild considering he'll be the.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Number one pick.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
If that's the case, then this really is a full
blown tear down build up. This is a rebuild. So
if that's the case.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Am I am I missing something here? If you're going
to draft Fernando Mendoza number one overall.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Your team stinks.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
You just got rid of the court of the quarterback,
you just got rid of the coaching staff, you just
added new ownership, you got uh the new ownership of
Juggernaut and Tom Brady his guy is running things personnel
wise there, Why would you not start your number one
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overall draft pick at quarterback day one? So what they're saying,
give me some give me some clarity on and so
why would your plan not You're preserving him for when
and so for what? And that's why my thought on
it goes, all right, if this is the case and
you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, then save
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that man's career. Draft somebody, draft somebody else. Let somebody
else know.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So what I'm saying is, if this is the case
and you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, why
are you haggling over dealing Max Crosby, Like, what's what's
the point if if you were if you're taking this
approach and you're acknowledging value you can get. Yeah, and
maybe you don't get what you would get for Micah Parsons,
which you shouldn't because he's twenty nine and coming off
(31:30):
an injury. If it's a one and a mid round
pick and maybe a player somebody wants to part with,
take the deal and move on, man, Like, if this
is the approach, you're going to be awful. You're gonna
suck for a year at least. Again, If that's the case,
what's with this wall?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
We really want?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I get, I get you want to play it out
in the media and kind of create a market for him.
But the idea that they would want to bring him
back and hope that he's a part of all this,
Why would.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Max Crosby want to be a part of all this?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Like, this is the quarterback's supposed to provide hope and
you're telling me we're gonna get a veteran and we're
gonna let him sit and watch as a number one pick.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Let's first start with what you initially said, and then
we'll move from there. You said this initiates or this,
this spells out rebuild. You have to lose the r
in this. There's no what are you rebuilding? You have
to build this this, this organization has been broken and
(32:26):
dysfunctional for so long. There's you're not rebuilding from anything.
You have to start over. Foundationally speaking, build your foundation,
build your your framework onto that foundation. Then finish building out.
You know the interior, the exterior. Are you going stucco?
(32:46):
Are you going brick? What are I don't know?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I mean they got there in Vegas. They build quick
out there. If they were the Palisades Raiders, no shot.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Well, I'll say this, if you build too quickly, it
might be broken. It might not be what you need
it to be. Sometimes it takes time. Now again now
moving to the next topic of it. It does take
time to build something. If you're building something, why would
I not put my number one overall draft pick in
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there to get meaningful reps, to get meaningful experience as
the starting quarterback that we're hoping to be the franchise guy.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Please don't give me the excuse because we don't want
to ruin him.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Because the bottom line is is that is year two
going to be the perfect time to put him in?
Is year three the perfect time to put him in?
And give me the reasoning why you're going to magically
get better in year one of his tenure of his
rookie contract. You're going to be that much better dramatically
(33:51):
with him on the bench in year two. And not
to mention, you're setting him up for all kinds of
screw knee and bust conversation. If your number one draft pick,
you're being drafted to play right away. Yes, if your
top draft pick, you're being drafted to play right away.
So if you're not putting him in, then you're saying
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he's not good enough to play day one. If you're
saying he's not good enough to play day one, then
the media is going to jump all on that and
put that out there, and then the fan base are
going to jump on that, and it's going to be
all out there.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Let's go live to our I have a thought on
Fernanda Mendoza walking the streets of Las Vegas Insider Greg
two for the latest.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I do have a thought, and Lamar, you just nailed it,
because what was Troykman's record his rookie year in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Don't remember? Oh one eleven? Wow?
Speaker 9 (34:41):
You know what Peyton Manning's record was in Indy his
first year.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
He struggled three and thirteen. Yeahmer So guess what.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
The Raiders are probably going to be very similar. But
if you have the guy that you want and he's
the franchise quarterback, you take them in. They worry about
next year, next.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Year, that's correct, Kayleb Williams, like you do this like
that's and also if there's going to be growing pay,
I'd rather get him out of the way early and
and look, worst case scenario, he's not good, Yes, Like.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
What are you going to waste two three years time
to find out?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (35:11):
And it might be you that ruined him, But so
what you still found out that, Yes.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
We're still consistently ruining people's careers. Like moving on.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It's like our plan is we're gonna we're gonna draft
Mendoza one. We're gonna sit him and let Charlie Whitehurst
start defining the black hole as a as a Raiders
a D plus. I'd also say this for for somebody
who seems I don't I don't know if naive is
the right word. But to uh, the real world, he's
(35:44):
do you think so, I don't know that I would
want him with some extra time on his hands, cruising
the streets. I mean by your parents, by your parents,
and you're right VI your parents.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Uh, he comes across.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
As as even more I don't know, I mean innocent
then then our boy from Florida. I would He's like, like,
who's our guy? Come on from Florida. We're never going
to lose ever again after this Tibo. Yeah, he comes across.
(36:17):
There's more innocent. It's Tim Diebo, a meathead. That's there's something.
There's something there. You don't get that something there with.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I think if you if you let him sit and
he's and he's not getting ready for the next game,
you know, next thing, you know, he's you know, with
carrot top and they've got a coffee table full of
you know, ajeax and they're trying to figure out what
to do with this stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I just I don't know, man, you gotta play them.
If you're not, if you're not playing on playing you
got then don't draft him.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You gotta play them. Don't take that back. It is the.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
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Yeah. Great two yeah, what let's get to it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Man, that's the first time I've ever gotten this standing
ovation for anything in my life.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
How you doing, guy?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Hey, guy, hey Hey, The WBC is underway. Guys, World
Baseball Classic. Jonas is fired up. I'm hoping LaVar is too.
But while many of.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Us were sleeping, why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Well,
many of us were sleeping.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Earlier today show, Hey, Otani showed he's already admits his
informed jump starting Japan's opening thirteen Nothing Mercy opening went
over Taiwan earlier today on Fox that you want to know?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Oh Tani?
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Like up?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It is good Old Tony Oh, Corydon's.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Own fire.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Grand Slam for Otani. Listen.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
I love the WBC Jonas like you, I think it's
added another level of excitement for baseball. My only little
issue is worrying about guys getting hurt like Jeremy Pan
You got hurt bo his finger this week. For me,
that stinks. But but how are we feeling about it?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well? You remember Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, so there was exactly yeah, celebrating and the Mets
lost them for the year, So yeah, I mean there's
there's always you run the risk of that. I also wonder,
you know how many of these players from like Chinese
Taipei are you going to see on a little league
team come up here in.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Man, there was a classic that took place in the
Dominican Republic where Penn State had a dramatic comeback victory
over Indiana State. Mind you pay attention to baseball, no kid,
I know you laugh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like a.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
No.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
You posted a picture on your social media of a
Penn State Rawlings baseball glove.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
That was sweet, right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Come on, man, all things sports, baby, especially Penn State.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
All right, wrap it up with this, guys. What you got?
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Lebron hit another big milestone last night and there lost
of the Nuggets. He surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar. When you
get to page two on a book most Mayfield goals
in NBA history. Here was jj redd on Lebron passing Kareem.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan, and uh I would
probably say his his like early albums, really really get
me going. There's a there's a youthfulness to him, you know,
an energy. You get to the end and you're like, holy,
this guy's greatest hits are like insane and Lebron's greatest hits.
(40:25):
I mean it just keeps adding to him. He just
plays and plays and plays, and the greatest hits he
just he's got to He's got a hell of a catalog.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
So many records for Lebron, regular season, playoffs, all Star games, selections,
things like that.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
But it feels like when he was that, we're kind
that was that coherent?
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Huh what are we going to just breeze over that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Like me, what, No, I'm just saying, like, did we
not listen to what J. J Reddick just said? And
how it.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Absolutely may a lot of energy from jj Reddick.
Speaker 9 (40:59):
There a lot of energy, Like he breaks so many records.
Are we just numbed his his greatness at.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
This point people will not recognize and acknowledge how great
he is until he's long gone and he go, yeah,
like I was pretty good. I mean he was kind
of a pain in the ass to cover for a
lot of people, and and you know, he did things
differently and moved around and you know, maybe I got
players traded and whatnot. There's a lot that people can
criticize his durability and his production unmatched completely.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
I'm still trying to understand what we may have to
bring this bite back to on his next hour.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
So yeah, like I am, I've heard Bruce springsting songs.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I've even heard how he composed the music. Like I
just didn't understand, like from beginning to end. That's I
was confused.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Huhm.
Speaker 9 (41:46):
Sorry to apologize for anything on this.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
You're filling in, you're doing You're doing God's work today,
all right.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
God's work springste god Man. Yeah, whatever the wrong with that?
That's j J Reddick. That is okay.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
He just I mean, he seems thrilled to be there,
like he always seems like he's in a chipper mood
and uh and really really happy about having a deal with.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
The chaos and Lebron James got it. I'm clean, I'm clear.
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
We are off and running on this Friday. What up? Sticks, Hey,
we're awake?
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeh?
Speaker 6 (01:07):
What I'm talking about doing a show in the daylights?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
And man, you you wrap bastards in. You're six to
seven hours sleep a night. You guys got a good
real good. You've got a good no. One am wake
up call for us. A little bit of traffic on
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are rocking and rolling here and ready to go. And
since we're back in this chair and it's been a
little while, it's appropriate we talk about somebody who.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Was also back.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Jason Tatum, less than ten months after suffering the achilles
tear in the playoff game against the New York Knicks,
will be in the lineup for the Boston Celtics coming
up later on tonight against the Dallas Mavericks. I know, LaVar,
you've dealt with the achilles issue before. I'm kind of
(01:56):
surprised that he's back this soon. But here we go
with return to Jason Tatum to an already really good
Boston Celtics team who probably didn't expect they were going
to be in this spot at this point in the year.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
A really good Jalen Brown led Boston Celtics team, we
should add and listen, I look at it like this.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
The.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Professional even just any type of competition, right college, pro,
even high school.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
When you've established.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
Yourself as the guy, you're the franchise, things are handled
a certain type of way, you do things, a certain
type of way, you're treated a certain type of way.
The respect factor is very different. When you get injured,
there's a moment of truth. Right, it either solidifies further
(02:52):
solidifies your efforts that you've put forth as a healthy
player and how the team has been able to accomplish.
And when that that that participation is gone due to
an injury, it either shows yep, Jason Tatum is the
(03:13):
reason why we are able to win. We got a championship,
world title. We were set for.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The future.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Right, you got a sidekick in Jalen Brown, But Jason
Tatum is the guy. Jason Tatum goes down. But yet
this team is second in the Eastern Conference. They're seventy
forty one and twenty one on the season, and they're
(03:44):
in great position to make a deep run in the
NBA playoffs. It has emerged that Jalen Brown could be
in the conversation of being the new face and franchise
player for this Celtics team. So now Jason Tatum is
(04:07):
tasked with not only coming back and playing, but now
he may be saddled with the pressure of coming back
as quickly as he possibly can. Before you realize that
the value of you being the franchise guy all but
dissipates fully from the situation.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's a really interesting call by Boston by Tatum, because
if they weren't this good, I wonder if this is
even a conversation, because if you look at two other
examples around the league, Damian Lillard and Tyrese Haliburton both
tore their achilles in the playoffs last year, there's not
even a thought that they're going to come back because
those two teams are awful. Okay, the highlight of the
(04:53):
Blazer season thus far was a guy with the ruptured
achilles winning the three point Contest.
Speaker 6 (04:58):
Which, by the way, he went back to the Blazer right,
considering that he tore it somewhere else.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, they didn't need him there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So the two highlights for the Blazers this year, not
not to call out the Blazers fan base, but your
two highlights are an injured guy winning the three point
contest and your coach involved in some poker scheme.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Okay, so like you.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Got card counters and three point shootout winners, you don't
have a good team, all right, Maybe maybe a little
bit better and expected and then Indiana is awful. Okay,
whatever happened last year in Indiana, they are the diaper
fire of the East. They might finish with the worst
record in the league. And so the Pacers and Blazers
are like, hey, guys, take your time. Take does take
(05:38):
your time. You know, we've got a legitimate excuse this year.
We're terrible. All of a sudden, Boston starts out the
year and it's like, whoa Nobody thought this was gonna happen.
There was the feeling was, hey man, it's a throwaway year.
And it's not even just the Jason Tatum stuff. Al
Horford gone, Drew Holiday gone, Chris SOPs porzingis gone. Those
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were all key members of the title team just a
couple of years ago. But they were trying to get
below the second apron. So they just said, hey man,
these are salary cap casualties, is what it is. This
isn't our year, Our best players gone. We'll just roll out.
We'll try and compete as hard as we can. Maybe
we'll sneak in and be a seven or an eight team,
will be in the play in tournament, whatever, but we're
(06:21):
just going to roll this season. Then we're really going
to focus on twenty twenty seven, and then all of
a sudden, they're this through sixty plus games, and I
just wonder, are you making this decision if not for
the fact that this team's a legitimate title contender, especially
with Tatum back.
Speaker 6 (06:40):
It's again, the points you make are accurate points, right,
the teams that you're discussing, they aren't competitive teams. You
look at the Celtics team and where they were at,
and the conversations that were were ensuing were taking place
(07:01):
in real time. It was always Jason Tatum and Jaylen
Brown and being in second place. Jason Tatum is not
available all season long, and Jalen Brown is averaging what
(07:24):
is it, twenty nine points seven rebounds per game, and
they're a top the Eastern Eastern Conference. So there's second
second place. If you're looking at where things go from
here on out, does it go back to Jason Tatum
and Jalen Brown or does it stay Jalen Brown and
(07:46):
Jason Tatum and insert Jason Tatum that I think that
that is a very real conversation. I think the Celtics
feel confident about where they're at outside of there being
some really, really big names like SGA is in pole
position to get MVP again.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
You're seeing what if.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't know if y'all watched Winby last night, but
Wemby is balling.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I saw him hanging out outside of a car dealership.
There's some sale going on.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
As long as this desk, his foot is, as long
as this desk would sitting there doing.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
This, Him and chet Holmren should just go as win
puppets for Halloween the next seventy years. Just do that
costume covered cheap, inexpensive, throw some drapes on and let it.
Let's call it a day. Wemby takes two steps his foot.
The tip of his toe from getting a rebound is
at mid court and two steps. Oh yeah, the tip
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of his toe is at mid court and two steps.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, he doesn't have one.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
They're talking about Michael Jordan and Doctor j doing dunks
from from the free throw line. Wemby's toe he in
his reach. He could probably move it back to I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Of course.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Yeah, we're gonna start seeing Winby take off and he's
gonna do the dunk contest. He's gonna take off ford
court and dunk the ball like that. Never seen before
on his ass hit long brouh and and his foot
still gonna be on the ground at big court when
he takes off.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
He's just a super stretch. Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Outside of these high profile guys being up for the MVP,
Jalen Brown's name is in the conversation for league MVP
this year, some of them as high as two.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
DeMarcus Cousins has gone on.
Speaker 6 (09:30):
Record says he's as high as the second best player
in the NBA all the way up to six to eight,
where his name falls in terms of best Player MVP.
But if we're being real, if we're being real, does
Jalen Brown have the same supporting cast that SGA does?
(09:51):
Does he have the same supporting cast as what wim
Bin Yama has. I would say, No, you just mentioned
some Orford's gone on, Jason Tatum hasn't been around. There's
a different group of people. It's a new group of
people this season for the Celtics, and yet they're playing
(10:11):
at a high level, which would lead to the conversation
of is he the most valuable player to his team?
Maybe they're not the best team, but they're certainly up
there with the best teams. So you can use the
criteria that they have a really competitive team, a good
team that's ranked high because you have to win for
(10:32):
them to consider you an MVP. And now you see
Jason Tatum sitting back watching like, I can't let the
ship get too far. He's swimming, bro, it ain't it's
not boarding the ship. That ship has sailed. But can
he catch it and ken he board this ship and
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and re establish himself for what it was that he
wanted was before the injury.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And that's what I wonder is does he feel like
like if they were, you know, a five hundred team,
is he in any rush to get back?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Na?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Na, take your time, take your time, take your time.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And I can understand the approach of well, if you're
doing this good without him, why would you even force
the issue? But I wonder how much of this is him?
How much of this is Tatum going? Man, I want
back in like I. And that's why I asked, because
you went through the Achilles what I was retired?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Like? What does that look like?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
That thing had a grown man in tears, bruh. And
I got a pretty high paying threshold and I limped.
I limped for like two three years after I got
that surgery, like it was.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
A very painful.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I've been through some painful things both, yeah, you know,
both both a lean and a limp, you know, because
when you when you yeah, when you're moving around with
that hammer, sometimes you lean and sometimes you limp. But
this one in particular was based off of me limping
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because my achilles tendant was really tight, it was really sore,
and it just felt like you if you don't know
what it feels like to injure a part as important
as your achilles, you realize it after. And I likened
it to like air and attire. I didn't realize you
could say, okay, air and attire for your feet and
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for your legs. But it really felt like the bounce
and the reactiveness of my foot was gone. It was gone.
Like the movement of how you pop off of your
toes and on your foot, and that torque that goes
through the bottom of your leg into your calf muscle
and then shoots up into your quads and then back
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into the glutes.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
It was gone.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
It was gone, and so you have to figure out
many have done it. I mean, it's very commonplace to
come back from that type of injury and that type
of procedure. Many have done it, but it is very
difficult and it is time consuming. It's almost as time
consuming and it's almost I mean, it's.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
The biggest I believe it's the biggest.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Ligament in your body, your acl I mean, you're you're
achilles tendon. It's the biggest tendon in your body. And
it's just that's a difficult injury to come back from
and be effective like you once were, let alone come
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back in an abbreviated amount of time to do.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
So we're gonna catch up with doctor David Chow coming
up later on as soon as he gets done sparring
Ryan Leaf at an octagon somewhere, whenever that gets gets
figured out. But but I bring that up because Reggie
Miller was on the Dan Patrick Show, which you can
hear on many of these Fox Sports radio affiliates, and
he sort of explained the reasoning why some feel that
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Tatum is also coming back sooner than a Tyrese Haliburton
and a Dame Lillard.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
The best thing if there was knock on Wood, the
best thing when he tore his achilles in Game five,
I believe in New York that the doctor was right there,
that they attached it right away, and the thinking was
the body didn't even know that it had that traumatic experience.
That's how quickly within twenty four hours they had the
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surgery on the achilles. So that's why he is so
far ahead of schedule versus a Damian Lillard or Tyrese
Halliburton is because they had the surgery within twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
You're not buying that. What you hell now? You know,
Reggie Miller MT. You're not going to buy his thought
process there.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
First of all, the body is way more intelligent than
any doctor that will ever work on you.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, and look at it, Jason Tatum. After the injury,
it sure seemed like his body knew it was going on.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Don't give it time to know that it's torn like
uh like, then then just finish the game.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
He looked like the guy going through the wood chipper
on Fargo.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
How many how much time is that that you have
that to to elapse before your body knew that that's
your dad? You know, like that they just give him
some mouth to mouth before he realized that he died.
You know, it's a theory I love Reggie Miller, but I'm.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Not in on this one. I'm not you heard dad, like,
oh really, huh?
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Like I go to break Reggie is he's officially lost,
you know, and he's passing the message on from whatever
you know was said on the documentary. I just look,
and people heal differently and people heal faster.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That is true. I mean people heal different.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Adrian Peterson came back from that knee injury in what
and was like there was no difference between when he
came back from knee injury and when he didn't, other
than you know, not being able to keep his left
hand up in a scuffle after a poker game. But
that again, we're not bringing up the old stuff. But
so there's different people healed differently. I understand that timelines
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can be a little different. It just feels like a
lot of this was sped up because of how the
team is done without him. If they were five hundred,
if they were below five hundred, I don't think there's
a shot in hell he could.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
That would have been a better question to ask Reggie Miller.
That would have been a better question, like did not
happen with Clay and Steph Curry. Wasn't Clay Thompson the
main dude? And then in some way, somehow, I don't
know if injury was connected to it, but didn't Steph
Curry like take the reins like they you know, like
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became the main guy and it never changed, never turned back.
He became the franchise guy. He became the face of
the franchise, legend, hall of fame. Er, goat, there's not
going to be a better player that has ever played
for the Golden State Warriors then Golden State.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Then Steph Curry. So I think this is a necessity move.
Whether that's the entirety of it. It doesn't have to
be untrue that he wants to come back and he
wants to play, of course, but if you're not going
to add into the equation the amount of pressure mounting
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on Jason Tatum looking at this Jalen Brown led team,
Like imagine if Michael Jordan went out and was injured
due to acl or achilles tendon injury and while he's out,
Scottie Pippen is just going nuts.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Look at look at the Nick Foles, Carson Wentz stuff.
Carson Wentz was never the same. It was never the same,
and like hell, he don't have a he don't have
a statue, and he was on that team. That knee
injury that he he suffered against the Rams at the Coliseum,
which by the way, is an outhouse, or at least
it was back then, But that injury he suffered at
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the Coliseum that changed the course of his career because
where's he?
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Where's he now? I think he's in Minnesota? Is he
he's still in the league.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think there it is because I think he always
felt like, wow, I was on track to be an
MVP and potentially a super Bowl champion as a starter
and maybe a Super Bowl MVP, and instead my backup
went in there and did it.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
He was I don't think he ever got over there.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
They call the place went win Sylvania.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, there was a moment in time where they said Winsylvania.
That's how well he was doing that season. You couldn't
grow any more hype and excitement around the players. So
you're one hundred percent spot on in that that that reference.
And need I say, Jay Brown is a number one
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guy on of the NBA teams and also, by the way,
when they won their title. Who is the MVP of
those finals?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Salen Brown?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So like it's not it's not as if you know
this is a real surprise, but it does. It does
bring up an interesting dynamic of Amen, what does that?
What does that look like?
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I'm the captain of his ship? Now player, Hey my ship,
I'm the captain. Now I'm the captain.
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Coming up here it is The Herd on Sports Radio.
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Colin and Crewe. In
about twenty minutes from now, we are going to have
another edition of The herdline news that'll be yours right
here on FSR. But we do have some news out
of the NFL and what a run it was. Gino
Smith's been released by the Las Vegas Raiders. Highlights for
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Geno Smith include LeVar go ahead, there you go?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
All right on this season? Uh Okay, there you go.
You know, I get the.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Look Sam Donald winning Sam Donald because I want to
be I want to be kind of about this because I
like Geno Smith, all right, he seems like he seems
like a good guy from everything I've heard.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
But you know, maybe not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Maybe you know, he had something to do with Chip
Kelly getting clipped and blamed for everybody had.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Something to do with getting clipped. I mean, you know, there.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Could be that too, but I think everybody deserved probably
a little bit of blame there. But the Geno Smith
Pete Carroll decision by the Raiders ill advised based on
based on what happened last year. And I know that
I get the thought process behind it. It was, you know,
Geno Smith and Pete Carroll have a great relationship. Pete
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Carroll helped revitalized Geno Smith's career when he got to Seattle.
They did some really good things, and the thought was,
all right, well let's bring him here and let's pair
these guys back up together. And if you just look
at what happened to Seattle this year, where there was
a clear decision to move on from Pete Carroll, there
was a clear decision to move on from Geno Smith,
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and I said at the time, I didn't really understand
what the difference was between Geno Smith and Sam Darnold.
And just to see the way that this turned out
in Las Vegas, just a brutal experience for everybody involved
to where they looked like they got worse every year,
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and the thought was, well, you can't do worse than
Antonio Pierce. No, upon further review, that wasn't Antonio piers problem,
all right. There was just issues there because that team stunk.
And so now Gino Smith finds himself, you know, on
the market. You know, we'll probably get picked up somewhere else.
Made a good amount of cash there in Las Vegas
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with the Raiders. But the Geno Smith era in Las
Vegas ends as he is released by the Raiders earlier today.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Uh eleven years. How long has he been in the league?
Has been in the league a long time?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Yeah, Uh, listen, he got comeback Player of the Year,
he was able to make a Pro Bowl, and I
believe twenty three, twenty twenty two, twenty three, twenty three
he has done well for himself as a player. A
lot of a lot of players who enter the NFL
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entered the league and played for a disfunction organization. It's
very rare that you see them have great careers. In fact,
most of them disappear and you never hear of the
go to football purgatory or find themselves in the abyss
of a failing NFL career. I'll raise my hand, I'm
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one of them. So when you look at what Geno
Smith was able to do and resurrecting his career, getting
to Seattle and being a part of the resurgence and
the setup of where the Seattle Seahawks would eventually get
to a year removed from him and going and winning
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a Super Bowl, I don't think he has anything to
be ashamed of. And when you look at the success
they were able to have, jeez, what they were able
to do in Seattle together him and Pete Carroll again,
Pee Carroll had a horrible season as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Geno Smith did.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Not have a great year as a QB. Both are
now gone from the team. And then I would say, again,
what's next for Geno Smith? Is it is it a rap?
Does it go somewhere and be a backup? Does he
still have an opportunity to be a starter? In this league,
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it's potentially maybe through injury. I don't think he goes
to another team as the starter of the team. You're
not going into the market place, even as poor of
a free agency class as this is this year, You're
not going into the marketplace as being sought after as
a starting quarterback. I would I would assume that.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Again, I mean, where it's just me and you today,
maybe it's safe.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
For me to assume and not get reprimanded for assuming
with my opinion that that would be what it is.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Okay, Now, I mean, what do you take?
Speaker 6 (26:00):
So do you think, I mean, well, are you are
you looking at him as a starter on a free him?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
But but if you're Geno Smith, I mean, you know,
maybe not the worst experience in the world. Just I mean, listen,
the team was awful. I mean, just a dreadful, dreadful
team to watch. But you know, he got a two year,
seventy five million dollar extension when he when he got there,
so the Raiders, you know, he made he made some
good money, as I mentioned, and he's going to be
out there and and he's he's, at least to this
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point in his career, a solid veteran backup who man
those guys in the NFL you can cash checks for years.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Sure, and he's not.
Speaker 6 (26:37):
Let's be clear, he is not the focal point blame
of the Raiders and they're and they're lack of success.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, it was a real group effort you gave.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You gave the examples of the coaching staffs and and
the people have come through. There's also a litany of
players that have also come through there that could have
made them better, a better team. Again, I say this
on our show. You listen to Pros and Cup of
Joe when you get the opportunity too. It's a little early,
but on the East Coast, it's right on time for
you getting into work. I always say, you cannot expect
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talent to outperform. Dysfunction can happen. Some people say, like
some people have stated and given examples of Okay, this
was a dysfunctional team, they were able to win data.
I do not subscribe to the fact or idea that
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talent can outperform dysfunction, and the Las Vegas Raiders are
one of the best examples of that statement.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
It's why you never hear of a golfer who grew
up poor, you know what I mean? Really?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, what golfer's growing up poor? You know they've been
in country clubs or whole life.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
That much money, you know. I mean there's two different golfers.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
There's those guys and then there's like me and my
son who we just do mini punt.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
So John, y'all aren't poor. So there's there's that.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
Well, your your son isn't growing up poor? Well, I mean,
it depends, it depends.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
It just made. It depends. You saw what I drove
in this morning with that's by choice.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
The grills falling off, but that's by choice one side,
one side is falling apart much.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Your wife is driving, Your wife is driving. Well, there's
a lawnmore in the back right now. I can't bring
it out here.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
So with that being said, still that's a solid joke
that the four people got. But with that being said,
there was an update to the Raiders Planet quarterback because
it clearly doesn't involve Geno Smith, who's going to be released.
As we mentioned, Diana Rossini of The Athletic reports that
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if the Raiders continue to lean toward drafting Fernanda Mendoza
with the number one pick, in April's draft. Their preference
is to not start him immediately, look for Vegas to
bring in a veteran quarterback and free agency, and.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Who would that be that would be better than Geno Smith?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well not probably cheaper than Geno Smith. I say, okay,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Garoppolo, but maybe that might be a little too expensive.
I don't. I mean, look, they they can go down
this road that is.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I mean, look, I'm just bringing like I don't know,
I'm just throwing out that's what we're going. Well, think
about it this way. If they're saying we're not starting,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It's too good looking. Well, I mean he's been there
before exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, he's probably got still too good looking, probably got
some tabs.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Maybe his habits are still bad habits.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
You gotta gotta.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Develop, break bake, break bad habits developed. But if there's
a place to go to to kind of blend in,
that's the spot. If you're going to take a certain
somebody out there, because you're gonna lose anyway, but so
you might as well have other things to do while
you're there. So I wonder this if they're if their preferences,
we don't want Fernanda Mendoza starting right away, which is
kind of wild considering he'll be the.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Number one pick.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
If that's the case, then this really is a full
blown tear down build up. This is a rebuild. So
if that's the case.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Am I am I missing something here? If you're going
to draft Fernando Mendoza number one overall.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Your team stinks.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
You just got rid of the court of the quarterback,
you just got rid of the coaching staff, you just
added new ownership, you got uh the new ownership of
Juggernaut and Tom Brady his guy is running things personnel
wise there, Why would you not start your number one
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overall draft pick at quarterback day one? So what they're saying,
give me some give me some clarity on and so
why would your plan not You're preserving him for when
and so for what? And that's why my thought on
it goes, all right, if this is the case and
you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, then save
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that man's career. Draft somebody, draft somebody else. Let somebody
else know.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
So what I'm saying is, if this is the case
and you're acknowledging this is a full blown rebuild, why
are you haggling over dealing Max Crosby, Like, what's what's
the point if if you were if you're taking this
approach and you're acknowledging value you can get. Yeah, and
maybe you don't get what you would get for Micah Parsons,
which you shouldn't because he's twenty nine and coming off
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an injury. If it's a one and a mid round
pick and maybe a player somebody wants to part with,
take the deal and move on, man, Like, if this
is the approach, you're going to be awful. You're gonna
suck for a year at least. Again, If that's the case,
what's with this wall?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
We really want?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I get, I get you want to play it out
in the media and kind of create a market for him.
But the idea that they would want to bring him
back and hope that he's a part of all this,
Why would.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Max Crosby want to be a part of all this?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Like, this is the quarterback's supposed to provide hope and
you're telling me we're gonna get a veteran and we're
gonna let him sit and watch as a number one pick.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Let's first start with what you initially said, and then
we'll move from there. You said this initiates or this,
this spells out rebuild. You have to lose the r
in this. There's no what are you rebuilding? You have
to build this this, this organization has been broken and
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dysfunctional for so long. There's you're not rebuilding from anything.
You have to start over. Foundationally speaking, build your foundation,
build your your framework onto that foundation. Then finish building out.
You know the interior, the exterior. Are you going stucco?
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Are you going brick? What are I don't know?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
I mean they got there in Vegas. They build quick
out there. If they were the Palisades Raiders, no shot.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Well, I'll say this, if you build too quickly, it
might be broken. It might not be what you need
it to be. Sometimes it takes time. Now again now
moving to the next topic of it. It does take
time to build something. If you're building something, why would
I not put my number one overall draft pick in
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there to get meaningful reps, to get meaningful experience as
the starting quarterback that we're hoping to be the franchise guy.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Please don't give me the excuse because we don't want
to ruin him.
Speaker 6 (33:30):
Because the bottom line is is that is year two
going to be the perfect time to put him in?
Is year three the perfect time to put him in?
And give me the reasoning why you're going to magically
get better in year one of his tenure of his
rookie contract. You're going to be that much better dramatically
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with him on the bench in year two. And not
to mention, you're setting him up for all kinds of
screw knee and bust conversation. If your number one draft pick,
you're being drafted to play right away. Yes, if your
top draft pick, you're being drafted to play right away.
So if you're not putting him in, then you're saying
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he's not good enough to play day one. If you're
saying he's not good enough to play day one, then
the media is going to jump all on that and
put that out there, and then the fan base are
going to jump on that, and it's going to be
all out there.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Let's go live to our I have a thought on
Fernanda Mendoza walking the streets of Las Vegas Insider Greg
two for the latest.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I do have a thought, and Lamar, you just nailed it,
because what was Troykman's record his rookie year in Dallas.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Don't remember? Oh one eleven? Wow?
Speaker 9 (34:41):
You know what Peyton Manning's record was in Indy his
first year.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
He struggled three and thirteen. Yeahmer So guess what.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
The Raiders are probably going to be very similar. But
if you have the guy that you want and he's
the franchise quarterback, you take them in. They worry about
next year, next.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Year, that's correct, Kayleb Williams, like you do this like
that's and also if there's going to be growing pay,
I'd rather get him out of the way early and
and look, worst case scenario, he's not good, Yes, Like.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
What are you going to waste two three years time
to find out?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know?
Speaker 6 (35:11):
And it might be you that ruined him, But so
what you still found out that, Yes.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
We're still consistently ruining people's careers. Like moving on.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It's like our plan is we're gonna we're gonna draft
Mendoza one. We're gonna sit him and let Charlie Whitehurst
start defining the black hole as a as a Raiders
a D plus. I'd also say this for for somebody
who seems I don't I don't know if naive is
the right word. But to uh, the real world, he's
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do you think so, I don't know that I would
want him with some extra time on his hands, cruising
the streets. I mean by your parents, by your parents,
and you're right VI your parents.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
Uh, he comes across.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
As as even more I don't know, I mean innocent
then then our boy from Florida. I would He's like, like,
who's our guy? Come on from Florida. We're never going
to lose ever again after this Tibo. Yeah, he comes across.
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There's more innocent. It's Tim Diebo, a meathead. That's there's something.
There's something there. You don't get that something there with.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I think if you if you let him sit and
he's and he's not getting ready for the next game,
you know, next thing, you know, he's you know, with
carrot top and they've got a coffee table full of
you know, ajeax and they're trying to figure out what
to do with this stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I just I don't know, man, you gotta play them.
If you're not, if you're not playing on playing you
got then don't draft him.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
You gotta play them. Don't take that back. It is the.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
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Speaker 5 (37:45):
No no, no, turn on the news.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
This is the herd Line News.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah. Great two yeah, what let's get to it. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:55):
Man, that's the first time I've ever gotten this standing
ovation for anything in my life.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
How you doing, guy?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Hey, guy, hey Hey, The WBC is underway. Guys, World
Baseball Classic. Jonas is fired up. I'm hoping LaVar is too.
But while many of.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Us were sleeping, why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Well,
many of us were sleeping.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Earlier today show, Hey, Otani showed he's already admits his
informed jump starting Japan's opening thirteen Nothing Mercy opening went
over Taiwan earlier today on Fox that you want to know?
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Oh Tani?
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Like up?
Speaker 4 (38:30):
It is good Old Tony Oh, Corydon's.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Own fire.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Grand Slam for Otani. Listen.
Speaker 9 (38:46):
I love the WBC Jonas like you, I think it's
added another level of excitement for baseball. My only little
issue is worrying about guys getting hurt like Jeremy Pan
You got hurt bo his finger this week. For me,
that stinks. But but how are we feeling about it?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Well? You remember Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, so there was exactly yeah, celebrating and the Mets
lost them for the year, So yeah, I mean there's
there's always you run the risk of that. I also wonder,
you know how many of these players from like Chinese
Taipei are you going to see on a little league
team come up here in.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Man, there was a classic that took place in the
Dominican Republic where Penn State had a dramatic comeback victory
over Indiana State. Mind you pay attention to baseball, no kid,
I know you laugh.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Like a.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
No.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
You posted a picture on your social media of a
Penn State Rawlings baseball glove.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
That was sweet, right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Come on, man, all things sports, baby, especially Penn State.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
All right, wrap it up with this, guys. What you got?
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Lebron hit another big milestone last night and there lost
of the Nuggets. He surpassed Kareem Abdul Jabbar. When you
get to page two on a book most Mayfield goals
in NBA history. Here was jj redd on Lebron passing Kareem.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan, and uh I would
probably say his his like early albums, really really get
me going. There's a there's a youthfulness to him, you know,
an energy. You get to the end and you're like, holy,
this guy's greatest hits are like insane and Lebron's greatest hits.
(40:25):
I mean it just keeps adding to him. He just
plays and plays and plays, and the greatest hits he
just he's got to He's got a hell of a catalog.
Speaker 9 (40:33):
So many records for Lebron, regular season, playoffs, all Star games, selections,
things like that.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
But it feels like when he was that, we're kind
that was that coherent?
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Huh what are we going to just breeze over that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Like me, what, No, I'm just saying, like, did we
not listen to what J. J Reddick just said? And
how it.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Absolutely may a lot of energy from jj Reddick.
Speaker 9 (40:59):
There a lot of energy, Like he breaks so many records.
Are we just numbed his his greatness at.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
This point people will not recognize and acknowledge how great
he is until he's long gone and he go, yeah,
like I was pretty good. I mean he was kind
of a pain in the ass to cover for a
lot of people, and and you know, he did things
differently and moved around and you know, maybe I got
players traded and whatnot. There's a lot that people can
criticize his durability and his production unmatched completely.
Speaker 9 (41:27):
I'm still trying to understand what we may have to
bring this bite back to on his next hour.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
So yeah, like I am, I've heard Bruce springsting songs.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I've even heard how he composed the music. Like I
just didn't understand, like from beginning to end. That's I
was confused.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Huhm.
Speaker 9 (41:46):
Sorry to apologize for anything on this.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (41:54):
You're filling in, you're doing You're doing God's work today,
all right.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
God's work springste god Man. Yeah, whatever the wrong with that?
That's j J Reddick. That is okay.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
He just I mean, he seems thrilled to be there,
like he always seems like he's in a chipper mood
and uh and really really happy about having a deal with.
Speaker 6 (42:11):
The chaos and Lebron James got it. I'm clean, I'm clear.
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