C&R… BEST OF THE WEEK

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another amazing week with you and Covino and Rich enjoy
the best of the best of the best of the week.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Let's welcome you three you have no no, oh, I have,
but not here.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, not in real life.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
And that doesn't bother me because you never beat me
when it mett.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I know, you're such a big fella, I would never
even go there. Let's welcome three time World Series champion.

Speaker 5 (00:21):
Kurt by the way, a guy that has been part
of so many big moments.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, and that's what I say when I people talk
about my career. I've been blessed. I I you know,
the ninety three World Series sucked, Joe Carter walked us off,
but everybody remembers it.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Oh one, nine to eleven Yankees die, unbelievable. Oh four.
You know, so I was in three of the most
memorable postseason moments in the top ten.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
Couldn't you let New York have the one? One?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh? Come on, dude?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
And it was funny because it happened. As an Arizona fan,
it happened perfectly. We beat Yeah, we win the first two.
We go to New York in three games that energized
that city at a time when everybody was looking for it.
And then we come home and we beat the hell
out of Pettit and then Game seven we walked marian off.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know what, man, You're right, every one of those
so memorable. That really is interesting. Now again he played
nine seasons with the Phillies. So I got to ask
you again, Eagles are here. They're representing the fans around up.
Are Philadelphia fans misunderstood or are they the best?

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Like everybody knows what they are real, They're not misunderstood.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
They are who they are.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Punch you in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
They are their family. To me, they were.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I mean, I spent nine years there and probably wasn't
booed as often as I should have been. But my god,
ninety three we had a parade in Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Losing the World Series.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
One of the most beloved teams that ever played in Philadelphia.
There was a connection there. And like Yankee fans, Philly
fans don't boo players that suck.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
They don't care about you, right, they.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Don't acknowledge you. It's like the worst as an athlete,
Like they don't even know I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Nothing whelse. I think when a woman is like apathetic.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Apathy is the worst thing in a lot of ways,
and that's one of them. But they are smart as
hell when it's sober and uh like Yankee fans, they
they you know, people after I've retired have said, you know,
things to me and they're like, oh, you know, I
hope I didn't offend you. I'm like, dude, nine years
in Philly, five in Boston, uh and like I was

(02:21):
the Red Sox in the Yankee Stadium, so I heard
things you can't even fathom.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So in a way, they prepared you for all these
big moments, right because you were sort of I loved
I loved playing in the Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I love you hated me exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
And I was telling somebody earlier I had my favorite
you know, given like the Yankee fans wouldn't go, oh,
your mother's a whore. They would go, dude, you got
a seventy r a in May you suck right, like
they were Statistically.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
They hit you where it really hurts.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
They hit Yeah, they offended me right and and and
but but and you you know, go back to uh
oh four, I you know, I come out and saying
I can think of anything better than making fifty five
thousand people from New York. Shut up, well, now go
out in Game one, get my butt handed to me.
And they were anything but quiet, and I deserved it.
But then I come back six days later and we

(03:13):
worked them over a little bit, and but they were.
Since I retired, I have not had a larger group
of people reach out to me and say I hated
you like a mofo when you played, but man, I
respect the hell out of you. And and it was
a fan base that whose respect was a big deal.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, that's exactly how I feel talking to you, man,
because you're so many, so so much a part of
all my baseball memories as a fan.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
They were the barrier though, right, I mean, oh one
was magical, But it was also the Yankees. In four
the World Series was Red Sox Yankees. It wasn't Red
Sox Cardinals.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
It was a sweep, right, you swept that.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'll tell you the magical story behind us win. He
eight in a row when if you ask for it,
but we won out and we swept the Cardinals, who
were an unbelievable team, No disrespect, but the win was
the red was the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
That comeback documentary on Netflix, Did you watch it accurate?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Because I felt that was a.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Really that was a really yes in a sense like
there's a lot of guys misremembering how much they how
important they were, things that they said or did. But
for the most part it was spot on.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
When do you enjoy them? Looking back though, at all
the highlights, you enjoy watching those.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's it's hard to explain to people that have never
been in a locker room that's family. During the baseball season,
you spend more time with your teammates than you do
your family.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You become close with these.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
People, and so that's why when we get together after
twenty years, it's like.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
We were the same room yesterday.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
And of all the teams I played twenty two years
of professional baseball, thousands of teammates, so there's twenty four
hours in a day. You kind of pick who you're
gonna still talk to or whatever. Doug Mirabelly is something
I talked to daily, weekly, whatever. It's not a lot,
but once you're in the room, it's a hug and
oh my god, it's great to see you. And that's
why when they you know, David McCarty passed and uh,

(05:01):
he called me from the reunion on the field, uh,
and was like, dude, this is you should be able,
this is great. And then you know, I I go
with his funeral and unfortunately this phase of life. You
guys will someday understand the phone ringing is not always
a good thing.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Looking back at a for Kurk chilling hang with Couvi Rich,
how happy were you that the sock was bloody?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
It just added to the lit story.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
If you go back and look at everything around that,
you're not going to find quotes from me.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
I didn't talk about it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It was a it was the media made it a
sensational thing, and that's fine, But I wasn't there talking
about my ankle and my bloody sock and all the
things that went with that. It's just the irony behind
I played for the Red Sox and my sock was
red and the camera zoomed great, right, And that's why
if the priority for Game two of the World Series
wasn't the sock, I wrote on my on my shoe

(05:55):
strikeout als because I had realized what an unbelievable thing
that was, Like the attention that was drawn to it.
The only thing, and we were talking about this earlier.
The only thing I remember about Game six was two things.
One was my foot was bleeding so bad that the
sock on the bottom was wet, like when you walk
in water.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Right, that's the worst feeling.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
But that's one way to ruin your day. I threw
it away.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I threw the sock away like I took it off
after the I w wasn't thinking about, oh my god,
my sock's bloody. I was like, dude, I historical sock, right,
but yeah, and I'm not thinking like that. So I
threw it on the ground. And somebody earlier was asking
about the original one, and I said, if it's out
there and somebody has it, it's one of the clubhouse
guys from New York, because I just threw it on
the ground, and I.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Want to wow.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Now, when you look back at that oh four season
when you're down three out, I know the right thing
to say is like, we're.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Not out of it yet. But was there, like, yes,
was there you really felt seminal moment. And I always
tell the story when I talked about Terry Francona. So
we had close circuit television in the clubhouse and So
in Boston there was a media room of sticks and
whoever's being interviewed. We could see it downstairs, and I
was standing downstairs and the first question out of one
of the butt clowns in the media was, you know,

(07:09):
what do you what are you gonna do tomorrow? And
Tito's like, what do you mean? He goes, well, what
are you gonna do? And he goes, We're gonna show
up and play our asses off. What else did we do?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
And it clicked me. I'm watching this thinking, well, that's it.
We don't have to beat them for in a row.
We don't have to beat them tomorrow. We have to
beat them in the top of the first inning. And
so we have team meeting and I said, this is
not about winning four games. This is about if you
make it out, make it an out that you win.
You got twelve pitch at bat, every bat as a
pitch or win. And and for eight days we didn't

(07:42):
get beat and it was it was It's what happens
when twenty five supremely talented people are hyper focused. And
the story I was gonna tell you.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Eart least tell us I want to here at eight
So uh oh, in.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Two thousand and one, we're with the Diamondbacks. We're in
the World Series. My wife makes purple scarves for all
the wives. They're a little bonding thing. Flash forward to
two thousand and four. My wife makes these scarves for
the wives. Fast forward to nineteen thousand to two, Game
three loss. We're down three to zero. Johnny Damon's girlfriend,
Michelle walks into the wives on her my wife weren't friends,

(08:15):
and she throws the scarf on my wife's lap and
she goes, nice effing job these scarves did, to which
my wife stands up and says, well, maybe if you
wore your husband wouldn't be Oh for twenty fists. They
had to be broken up way, dude, I get it.
So we just lost by seventeen runs. I hopy in
the car, and that's the story I hear from my wife.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Johnny and I walk into the clubhouse the next day,
we see each other like woh, bust out laughing. Oh like,
oh god, we didn't lose a game there, and so
like I was like, that's the that's why.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's so cool.

Speaker 9 (08:51):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Here with Kurt Schilling, Covino and Rich Can I talk
about Dave Roberts too, because he's a major turning point
of the series. Did you you view him back then
as a guy that could be a leader of a clubhouse?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Oh? Absolutely. I always had to follow his.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Career, you know, as a manager with the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Let's back up to the stolen base goes without one
of the things that I had a one moment in
my career like this. But when you're going to do
something and your opponent knows it, and everybody in the
world knows it, and you still do it.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
That that's that's not talking about enough every human, everybody,
and he went in the game for one reason.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
And everybody thought that was their turning point of this
series until we found out about the fight.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Well, well, you're right, exactly right, Well I and I said,
I had so. Two thousand and two, I'm at the
All Star Game and the day before the All Star Game,
I'm starting and I walked up to Alex Rodriguez, American
League's taking VP, and I said, hey, listen, dude, if
you come up tomorrow with nobody on, I'm throwing you
nothing but fastballs. He's like, what I'm like, I want
to see if I can get the best hitter in

(09:55):
the world out. When he knows what's coming, he's like, Okay,
I had a mic and I was for Fox actually.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
And he comes up nobody on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
First pitch ninety seven, paint away black heat and he
took it, and I think he was thinking, is he lying?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Was he right?

Speaker 10 (10:12):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Now you're in his head right.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Right, Next pitch ninety eight black inside corner, untouchable, Next
pitch ninety nine away, three pitches, sit down.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was like, I was feeling pretty sexy.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah. Yeah, And you always throwing heat like that even
when you were a little kid. I don't know, That's
just something you developed he got older. It came honestly
after I got hurt.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I had solar.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Surgery in ninety five, and I had label surgery, and
I kind of got religion about my arm after that.
My doctor at the time kind of showed me a
cadaver an autopsy, showed me the inside of his shoulder.
I understood how everything worked. So I became hyper focused
on medicine in the sense that you play one hundred
and sixty two games, one hundred and eighty one days
you're sore every day. You know, I don't feel like

(10:56):
I'm eighteen. You never feel like you're eighteen the day
after you're eighteen forever. But there's aches and pains.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Excuse me.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
And there's a difference between being scorn being injured. Yeah,
and so I always knew when I was sore, why
I was sore, where I was sore, what I had
to do. And so I got religion and I came
back the first start I made coming off of my
label surgery.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
But he was like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
I went seven innings, punched out ten, gave up two hits,
and I was throwing ninety six. I was a ninety
two ninety three guy before, and everybody was like, oh
my god. And then it just kind of took off
everything click.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
I was like, I'm I'm coaching my kids and little ly, Yeah,
at what age do you feel like you know that
someone's My dad told.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Me when I was thirteen.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, he said you're gonna get a chance to play something.
And I'm like, okay, dude, everybody's daddy, right whatever you
didn't believe. And he never pushed me to play baseball,
but he pushed me to play the game hard and
play the game right. And you know, one of the
things I would tell you is until a kid, until
a boy's hands stopped growing, you have no idea what
they can do. Hands stopped growing at like nine, exactly right,

(11:55):
breaking ball at nine was your breaking ball today? Yeah,
And I tried to explain that's one of the most
important measurements on the cadde because of what I can
do and not do with the baseball.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Gotta tell us this. We know when you're in the game,
you're in the zone. He told us that a rox story.
Just now, what are the days before, like the night before,
like especially in a World Series game, you know you
gotta win.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
In two thousand and one, so I had a sports
psychologist and just and I'm not lying about this. The
night before I would always do a pregame pre night session,
and it would he would. It was not hypnotized, but
he would talk me through. The night before Game seven
of the two thousand and one World Series, I fell
asleep on the phone and woke up with the phone
next to me.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
I was so relaxed.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Wow, is that is that a normal thing?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Because what was happening that day was no different than
what happened from the first day. I prepared every game
from the first day of spring training like it was
the Game seven of the World Series. So nothing on
the day I pitched was different except the game.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Do you credit that because you learned famously what eleven
and two in the postseason?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
So you just never really changed.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well, I've stepped up. I became somebody else in October.
So then I got to ask you.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Hear people say things like this guy wants it more,
this team is motivated.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Is that I say, that's no, no, no, it is because.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Everyone wants it. Well, well everybody wants it. Some people
don't know how to get it. Like I always looked
at October, I knew I my first start in the postseason,
I struck out the first five guys I faced, and
no one had ever done that before. And I was like, yeah,
I'm feeling sick.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's sort of.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
A damn Shane, the Hall of Fame nonsense, your your politics,
your vibe.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Do people just hold it against you?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
They've said it, right, they But the game owes me nothing.
The game owes me absolutely nothing. And one of the
reason I'm getting back into the game as a coach.
Hopefully I want to teach pitching and coach or or
do color Uh you know, I would love to do
like a Manning broadcast on a baseball game, because there's
some more downtime in baseball than anything, and I have.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Stories for years and personality.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
People don't want to hear me talk about Otani's batting average.
They know that the hey, what are they talking about
on the mound right now? And I'm like ninety percent
of conversations were about the really hot blonde that behind
know Blake. They had nothing to do with the game.
It was the pitchy go was trying to make calm
me down. And and so those are the kind of
things that I feel like I know pitching as well
as anybody's ever lived, and I can teach it and

(14:24):
I can talk it, and so you know, I kind
of want to back into that. But the whole you know,
the political thing and the Hall of Fame thing, my
life's complete. I won't be more of a person if
I suddenly have a plaque in Cooper Sound. What that
will do for me is call out all the people
who got me there, and it's a chance to recognize
I was raised by an amazing man. My father died

(14:45):
eight months for I made my big league debut, but
I left the ticket every game I started in the
big leagues in his name, so there was always an
empty seat.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
In the ballpark.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
And I ended up getting the home seat from the
vet that he's that I allocated for him.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
After the vet.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Oh you got the yeah, no way, that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
But so the game most mean nothing, and if it happens,
it's a way for me to make sure. But my
biggest if I had a problem with it, are the
people that have died since I retired who should be
here and it should have been here for me to
talk about what they meant to me.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Right, So it's shouting at your teammates, your family, family,
for the fans, and just as baseball fans.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Man, you belong there.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Two hundred and sixteen wins, three thousand, one hundred and
sixteen strikeouts, six time All Star, three time champion, a
guy that did it all man, So thank you. Yeah,
we'll see you there, Kurt. We could talk to you
all day time. I feel like we could talk for
two hours. Yes, Oh, I'm a big baseball guys.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Story and you know what, let's do it again, man again,
by the way, real quick. I know you got to
tell us about what's doing here in New Orleans. But
I'm a big Mets fan peed.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
A lonzo sticking around. You think I don't.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
That that's gone weird weird. One gone weird on me.
And apparently the Blue Jays are out, but it's gone
weird on me. I don't see anybody.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Look up. What do you look like a chump going
back to the Mets?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Now?

Speaker 5 (15:58):
No, first of all, no, right, I mean he's still
seventy millions.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
What he's not gonna look like a chump going anywhere.
It his agent made a bet and was wrong. Yeah,
and that's what you I didn't have an agent for
the last eleven years of my career. I did all
my own stuff. I had total no trade clauses and
all the things because I knew what my value was.
It was in the paper. What everybody's making is right there.
I know, Hey, I'm better than him. I should make

(16:21):
more than it. I mean that was easy stuff. But
you have to have confidence to sit in the room
with people like that. And I I want him to
go back to New York. I mean, I don't know
that he's get him over the hump guy. But but
he's a he's clearly a fan favorite. He hits the
ball with a lot of force and having.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
A forty home run guy.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
But they're not as rare as they used to be
because everybody's home running or striking out two hundred times,
which is the game has changed dramatically that way, and
that's not I don't think that's for the better, no doubt, Kurt.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
What are you doing here in New Orleans?

Speaker 7 (16:52):
So?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, twenty five years ago the World War Two Museum
was found. I was on the original board of directors.
Nice all right, And a lot of people don't know
why it was built in New Orleans. You've seen Saving
Private Ryan of opening scene of Saving Private Ryan when
they're riding into the beach. They're riding on Higgins boats,
which were built in New Orleans, and that was a transcedental,

(17:13):
amazingly important thing for the war effort. I was on
the board director. Half my collection resides in the museum,
and I would tell you that it is a true
bucket list thing to go over there.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
I met one hundred year old vet yesterday.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
There's only sixty six thousand left out of the sixteen
and a half million, and they are preserving the ural
history of that generation, which has to happen. We have
to be able to pass that along to future generations
because for all the warts this country has had, and
you know, you can find anybody willing to bring them up,
the fact of the matter is we are a direct

(17:48):
result of good and bad and this was the greatest
generation and we need to remember them, respect them, pay
tribute to them, and keep that memory line.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And see your collection too, the National World War Two Museum,
Kurt Shilling, Thank you, Thank you, guys.

Speaker 7 (18:03):
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Speaker 6 (19:09):
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Speaker 2 (19:10):
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Speaker 11 (19:17):
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Speaker 5 (19:48):
Mountain do that, yo, deebo, I gotta ask you as
a big Niners fan, you got to be anxious to
just run it back. I mean, it's the team is
too good for what happened this year.

Speaker 12 (19:59):
Yeah, feel this way. Yeah, definitely is. But you know,
with this league come injuries.

Speaker 9 (20:04):
For sure.

Speaker 12 (20:05):
We can't sit back and harp on you know, we
lost this game because we didn't have this person. We
lost this game. We didn't have this person. Like I've
sat back and watched this team win win games with
you know, a lot of the stars that we have
on our team hurt. So I mean we can't sit
back and blame that, but it definitely play a part
in it. But overall, you know, definitely anxious to get back.
Definitely anxious to get back to work with all the

(20:26):
guys for sure. Just you know, we got to ship
on our shoulder. Like this is like my real first
year not making a playoffs since I've been a Niner,
and it just feels so weird just to sit back
and just sit back here soon and be like, yo,
yeah this team is playing with normally, you know, we'd
all teams that's always knocking that what are.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
These teams thinking if we were full strength, we'd whoop
all these teams.

Speaker 12 (20:45):
I mean, there's a lot of ifs, but we wasn't there.
So we just we just we just get ready for
this year.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
We're talking to your dude, Fred Warner the other day
and I said, as a fan and as a guy
the team and we were feeling the same thing every week.
It's like, all right, next week is when things turn around.
It just never, it never happened. But next year, with
everyone healthy and Leva is next year.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
It's going to be a homecoming. You're going to do it, y'all.
Seal it is. It fun to work with Devo on
this campaign.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
I've been a fan of this guy since he was
at Carolina, so yeah, you know, He's It's great to
be standing next to someone I've admired. I'm a frustrated
athlete myself, and just to be you know, to finally
meet Debo and and tell him about all of the
great moments that I've enjoyed watching him create is It's

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been special.

Speaker 11 (21:33):
And to do it with Mountain Dew is amazing.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
What we find awesome is the mutual respect. We talked
to a lot of you know, superstars in the music world.
They admire athletes, and athletes admire people in the music world.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
Mutual sport is a sport is an allegory for life.
I think that's why people connect with it so much.
You can see a lot of the daily trials and
tribulations and challenges that we go through in life.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
You can see them being played it out.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
On the football field, you know, or whether it's on
a tennis court.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
It's you.

Speaker 11 (22:04):
You're watching life on fold.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
And to see an athlete try andcend something that has
been holding them back, you know, it's it's a reflection
on life. And so that's my connection with sport.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, see, I can tell you you're probably a great athlete.
You're a big dude.

Speaker 8 (22:19):
No no, no, no, I'm a frustrated, frustrated athlete, like another
great athlete.

Speaker 11 (22:24):
I mean, but I try, you know, and that's that's
important thing.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
But Debo, is there an artist inside?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Man?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Can you sing? Are you any good at any instruments?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (22:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I gotta I got a little
voice on me. You got a little little so.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
So was there a part of you growing up that
you're like, Man, I don't want to know always athlete
from day one.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
When did you realize that at a very young age.

Speaker 12 (22:46):
Yeah, so I kind of started playing tackle when I
was like four years old.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Cool, so that was it. Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 12 (22:51):
My dad was my coach for a long, long, long time,
and you know I always played with the with the
kids that was older than me, for it's like my
brother and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Same question for you Seel, like, did you know I'm
going to be a singer at an early age.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
To be a tennis player tennis before?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, so at first it was I wanted to be
a tennis player, always going to be.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
You know, I had I had a teacher at school,
mister Wren, and I idolized him.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
He was the.

Speaker 8 (23:20):
Cool teaching on all the cool clothes like everyone to
Everyone wanted to be like him. He was different from
all the other teachers and he sang, you know, he
was a singer. But then you know, he got a
real job as a teacher, and uh, I kind of
started singing because I guess I wanted to be like him.
And he put me on stage when I was eleven

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at the Parents and Teachers Association evening to sing a
Johnny Nash song called I Can See clearly. Now you
guys are probably too to remember that. And I remember
going to the stage. It was the scariest thing that
ever happened. He called my name and it was a cappella,
so there were know I had no backing, and he
called my name and said, we got this.

Speaker 11 (24:03):
Young Sill is going to sing a song for you
right now.

Speaker 8 (24:06):
And I walked to the stage and I saw my
parents in the audience and all of these all of
the parents of the other kids and everyone there, and
literally I wanted the stage to just open up and
swallow me. I was frozen, but I closed my eyes
and I sang this song and it was it was
kind of like that scene in the movie you could
hear a pin drop. I sang this song and at

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the end of it, I still had my eyes closed,
and everyone clapped and I saw my parents.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
Going wow, mouth dropped.

Speaker 8 (24:37):
So that place that turned into the scariest place place
on earth. It immediately felt like home, and so I
always knew I would return there. So I guess the
reason that that the real takeaway from that story is
that we all need people to see us.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
We need you know, for you, it was your dad
who who who.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
Saw you, and I saw something great in you when
you were four years old, you know, and you were
playing tackle and at that age, you know, he saw
it in you.

Speaker 11 (25:07):
For me, it was mister Wren.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
He saw me, and you know, whereas other teachers thought
I was going to be a waste of time, you know,
because I have ADHD, so I never paid attention in
school and they thought I was going to be a
waste of time. But he saw me and he brought
out something special.

Speaker 6 (25:25):
It's an amazing story.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Man.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
This is perfect because from up here, I'm missing career
Day at my kids school.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm going to send them this clip. How was that?

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Miss Wagner's class is going to see Seal and deebo
I start coincidentally coaching my son who's four, this weekend,
so I got to keep that eye out.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, maybe my son your next temo, Samuel.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
I got to ask people talking about you rolling up
in an Eagles jersey this week, is that you just
supporting your boy?

Speaker 12 (25:50):
People making a big deal about this for no reason,
just that's definitely me supporting my brother.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
For sure. We locked there for a long time.

Speaker 12 (25:56):
Now, we're going on about eighty eight years of you know,
and my guy, you know, just showing support. You know,
I always say, like, if I'm not in it, I
want one of my peers to win it.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Of course, am I feeling a little ego biased here
because you're supporting your boy and he wants to fly
like an eagle to the seed.

Speaker 11 (26:17):
Into No, no, no, no, no, I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Not gonna let you do fly like any ego.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
That song is that.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
Song that you're just singing that right, is literally the
only association I have with the Eagles.

Speaker 11 (26:30):
It begins and ends there.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Really okay, But but I can't imagine oh and two
against the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
You can't be loving this team. No, no, no, not
at all, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Robert Salaback, is that a big deal for you even
though you're on the offense.

Speaker 12 (26:45):
That seems like such a vibe guy. No, right, man,
this man energy is through the roof. I've seen that
have it. I was like, bro, we got one of
our core guys back because when I got drafted there
he was there.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Yeah, so like you know, he was.

Speaker 12 (26:57):
He was the high energy guy, the to get everybody going.
When things ain't going right, he always there to bring
it back together. Like he's the guy for sure.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Know what always wonder Comino is there is there a
forty nine ers group chat and you are you guys
talking about this while we're learning about it.

Speaker 12 (27:12):
No, no, everybody be cool and just because at the
end of the day, there's nothing that we could control.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
It's just you know, no doubt.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
That's a tough thing about your your your profession. Man,
you're like you for me, I I can can.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
You control everything?

Speaker 11 (27:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Control is what we go out there and put on tape.
That's it.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh see, can you still control those high notes? Kiss
from a rose? That that real high note?

Speaker 11 (27:34):
Which high note?

Speaker 3 (27:35):
You're baby love to go high? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Let me tell you this is wild because I want
to keep going back and forth music sports because those
are two things people love so much. Like, all right,
super Bowl, that's a game a week said about Kendrick
Klamar your.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Fan, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (28:02):
To me, I'm not gonna sit here and lie be
like I'm the biggest kindred fan of the I really
like start listening to him when him and Drake got
the going back and forth, so I'm just like, all right,
but he got some you know, listen to that and
listen to soon he got Drake can't be loving us
Drake Cole though, Oh yeah, man, I agree, Rae one
of the coldest.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Uh. Talking to other forty nine ers, everyone seems sold
on Bronck. I like Brock as a fan, is Brock
your guy?

Speaker 6 (28:29):
No matter what?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
He love them? Yeah, love them? Well, you guys got lucky,
by the way, mister irrelevant. Lucky. No, but I'm saying
the fact that I'll consider it love. No, not lucky,
but mister irrelevant.

Speaker 5 (28:42):
You saw people are saying when the minute he joined
your team in practice, everyone's like this guy, bro this
guy the.

Speaker 12 (28:48):
First free season game I watched him play, we played Houston,
and he showed glimpse of like yo, like this kid
is talented and I'm just like he just get out
the he'd be moving.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'm just like, yo, like who is this guy? Like
you know, he always won.

Speaker 12 (29:06):
The guys that practiced, they stood at the back, like
he used to just throw like he told me a story.
He's like heyd bo man, I used to just I
just think he was just so mean and just this
is funny there. He's like I just throw you the
ball and just turn around before you even catch it
so you don't come back and talk to you.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I love I love what.

Speaker 8 (29:20):
I love what you said, your response to these guys
saying lucky. You know, I heard this great quote by
my brother Tiger Woods one day when somebody accused him
of being lucky, and he said, yeap, how do I
practice the luckier I get?

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Right?

Speaker 11 (29:36):
And I think that's the case with with.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
I once heard I think it was I think it
was my brother Steve Young talking about the quality that
the intangibles of a quarterback that not a lot.

Speaker 11 (29:50):
Of people want to pick up on.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
And he said that what he learned from Montana was
that that it's a game on the line, and you know,
you gotta perform the value in going into the huddle
with your guy, with your leader, and you see that
he's cool and he's not panicking, and he's calm, he

(30:16):
never and he's confident. So I wanted to ask you,
what is it like in those moments when you go
into the huddle and you see your guy Brook It
was calm.

Speaker 12 (30:26):
Sometimes it be crazy because sometimes Kyle get to play
in late and you know them quarterbacks get frustrated here
like I can't hear nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
He was like a brother. Let's get him. I'm about
to ready break.

Speaker 12 (30:36):
So he's like, all right, you have no choice but
to getting this call with this dude, no matter where,
he's going to just sit back and ride with him.

Speaker 11 (30:42):
That is he that come in the huddle.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
He's like when I say like, I mean, it's like
the moment is never too big for him.

Speaker 12 (30:50):
Like see, the only time he gets kind of frustrated
is when Kim and Cale is going back and forth
on the head sitting the time, getting lowered. Cayle saying
one word, but want to change the play. He changed
about four five times. Brock is like, bro like, give
me to play, like give me something. By the way,
for the record debo, I did not say Brock was lucky.
I was saying the Niners lucky was.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
There's no see what he's doing that.

Speaker 11 (31:16):
I see what he's doing the moonwalk.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Man, he's doing his dance moves. So anyway, guys, let
us know what's going on with Baja Fresh. What are
we expecting from Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
And nothing?

Speaker 6 (31:25):
I saw the commercial, man, I saw the good stuff.
Tell us what's going on?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Man?

Speaker 12 (31:28):
It's nothing better than Super Bowl football in a great
mount due especially the Baja Blasted so refresh and I
swear I love it best drink outas.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
In the commercial you turn into a seal.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
They finally got you to turn they got they got
me to do it.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
You know.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
But I honestly, I'm really proud that I'm really fortunate
and happy that I got to make people laugh, and
I'm pretty proud to be doing it with the Mountain dude.

Speaker 11 (31:52):
Baja Blast. You know, it's a it's a it's a
perfect match.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
I think I think you guys are a perfect match.
I love having you both here. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (32:01):
I'm just I mean, I mean, his biggest fun. I've
been watching this guy since he was at Cartage.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's so cool, man. Thank you guys for your time.
We're excited to enjoy some Baja Blast and thank you
guys for me. Thank you are about Samuel. Yes see
Guy Samuel and Deebo Samuel on the Cavino and Rich Show.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
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Speaker 2 (32:30):
Welcome back to Coveno and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
To our left.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's a pleasure to meet and welcome someone we see
on social media all the time.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Over eleven million followers on.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
All social media platforms from Sports Grid give me props.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Let's welcome Paige Sporadic to the show.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Are you please? Are running me?

Speaker 13 (32:49):
I'm super excited and pleasure to.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Have you now. Great to see you in person. We
feel like we see you every day on our phone.

Speaker 13 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
How many people do you feel as though they recognize you?
And I was like, I know, I know her? Where
do I know her from? You get that a lot?

Speaker 13 (33:02):
Yeah, Well people went you look familiar?

Speaker 14 (33:06):
Yeah, oh yeah, if I'm on the golf course, it
makes sense. Yeah, but like walking around here anywhere. But
I have the best job ever because like I can
be invisible in real life because social media fame isn't real.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
So it's like I have that life and then I
have my real life.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
You got to tell us about that again, Page Brannick.
You definitely know her again. Give me Prompts is the
new show on Sports Grit. She's a former pro golfer
turns social media superstar. Tell us about that decision, how
it happened? Was it hard to say? Well, I'm gonna
give up pro golf and focus on this but still golf, Like,
tell us about the journey.

Speaker 14 (33:40):
Yeah, So I was a competitive gymnast before I switched
over to golf, and I really wanted to be a
pro athlete, and I thought that I would just be
really well suited to golf. And so I did junior
golf and then played D one golf and then two
years professionally.

Speaker 13 (33:55):
But that first year it's.

Speaker 14 (33:57):
Financially straining and I didn't have any support and it
just kind of happened to me where someone wrote an
article about me.

Speaker 13 (34:04):
I went viral overnight.

Speaker 14 (34:06):
I went from having five hundred followers two hundred thousand followers,
and companies were reaching out. And at the time, this
is almost ten years ago now, there was no path
to be a social media influencer or content creator, and
especially in golf or in sports, and so I was like, oh,
I can use this to my advantage to finance my
golf career. And that's really how it started. And after

(34:28):
really like a year of trying to balance both, which
was really hard, and I was also dealing with a
lot of criticism of you know, getting a sponsor invite
or just what people said was like special treatment in
the golf industry because of my following or my appearance,
and it was just too hard to handle. And I
was never cut out for pro golf. I had the

(34:50):
physical skills to do it, but oh my god, I'm
such a head case.

Speaker 13 (34:55):
It was bad. It was really bad.

Speaker 6 (34:57):
Way got to the most criticism.

Speaker 14 (35:00):
You know, I think that like coming from a gymnastics
background where you need to be perfect and you're striving
for perfection, and then you go to golf, which is
the exact opposite. There is no such thing as perfect,
and really you look like this throughout your career and
the highs never really outweighed the lows.

Speaker 13 (35:15):
For me, There's just something about golf.

Speaker 14 (35:17):
And I don't know if you've played it, but it
just makes you feel so small, I thought yourself.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
For that reason, yeah, I have.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
Because everyone's like, you're gonna you're gonna love it one day, right,
and then the minute you feel like I'm getting pretty good,
then you feel like you suck.

Speaker 14 (35:31):
It just eats you alive, and especially when you're trying
to do it as a living, which most people like
that's the dream job. And I'm like, well, you know,
especially for the women, and I was playing on the
Mini tours. I played around twenty five tournaments I had
to win and I barely broke even for the year.
And so you're grinding and you don't have support, and
it's just a really hard lifestyle. So there's so much
pressure on you and then me just kind of being

(35:52):
a people pleaser and wanting to do a good job.
And also it's a really unique sport too, where you know,
my parents always told me, if you work hard, you'll
be successful. If you do everything that you need to do,
you will see results. And golf is like, nah, no,
you won't. You can eat right, you can, you know,
do everything, have healthy habits and work hard in the
gym and work hard, you know, on your practice, and

(36:14):
then you know, it could be the first tea and
then it's like you've never held a golf club before.
And I just couldn't ever wrap my head around that,
and so I decided to lean into doing social media
work for just a year or two to be able to,
you know, then maybe take a break of that and
go back to pro golf. In about a year of
just doing social media, I was like, I will never
ever go back to playing golf competitive.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Because that just blew up, blew up for your congrats.

Speaker 13 (36:35):
And I'm just better suited.

Speaker 14 (36:36):
So what helped me back in playing professional golf actually
helped me in my social media career, where I think
I was very vulnerable and you know, competition was hard
for me, and that vulnerability helped me build a really
great community. And so I'm just much better suited to
be doing this and I still get to stay in golf,
which I'm so passionate about. But I just was never
meant to play professional golf.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeah, he Hey, listen, we're here hanging with Page Sperandic.
You know, rich what I love about what you do
is you don't shy away from the obvious. You're good
at golf.

Speaker 13 (37:04):
What are you talking here?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
You're a good looking woman, and like a lot of.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Times, it's like a hesitancy where people like, well, I
don't know if I want to lean in, and You're like, listen,
I was blessed with good looks and I know how
to play sports, and I know sports.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Why not marry the two? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (37:18):
I mean when I first started doing this, I again
had no idea what it would morph into, and I
was taking a more traditional route and it was so funny.
I posted a picture and I was wearing a turtleneck
and someone called me out for my wardrobe and I
was like, this isn't about my wardrobe. You're just putting
me in this box. And I got so sick of them.

(37:38):
I was like, you know what, I'm gonna lean in
and I'm gonna do that the best I possibly can.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Right.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
So, my social media is morphed over the years, and
it's really become this like parody of how people view me,
and if you follow me, you're kind of in on
the bit and it's like if you know, you know.

Speaker 13 (37:53):
And I have so much fun with it and I'm.

Speaker 14 (37:55):
Very self aware, and I just feel like there's so
much negativity online that I want people to come to
my page and have fun and smile and not think
that I'm like trying to preach something or do this
or do that.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
You with the first like, I feel like because of you,
there's so many Like I have buddies that like my
whole algorithm is like hot girls golfing.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
You mean you started sort of like a genre.

Speaker 14 (38:16):
No, I mean I paved a path for so many,
not even just for the women but for also my
male counterparts to be able to do this. I was
the first one to be able to uh monetize your
social media in a way in the golf industry that
no one had ever really done before. And sometimes I
don't always get credit for that because again of like

(38:37):
how I've built my brand in it, because it is
more kind of silly and not as like in your
face golf all the time. But I'm really proud of that,
and it's so cool that so many women now have
an opportunity to make, you know, a career.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Have you met guys that are intimidated that you are
better than them at golf, because there's a lot of
guys that would have a hard time like, gosh, it's
better than me?

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Like is that? Have you encountered many of men that
are insecure about your You know.

Speaker 14 (39:00):
It's funny because a lot of people, because I am
so public and I say, oh, I feel that playing
golf professionally, that they think that I'm a bad golfer.
And so when I meet a lot of people, they're
not nervous that they're playing with me because they think
I'm good. They think that I'm going to be bad
and I'll make contact on the first show and they're like,
oh my gosh, and like that's the fun part. It's like,

(39:23):
I I still can play at a, you know, a
good level, and I'm confident in my skills and but
most people just don't realize that I, you know, can
break seventy.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
You could hustle so many people.

Speaker 13 (39:36):
I'm doing it online.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
I mean that's the whole correct, that's the way hustle.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
By the way, Hi, I'm a Cavino and Rich show
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Uh, show me your tips. You're not shying away for
like I said, everything's like you said, if you're in
on it, you're in on it.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
When you talk about give.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Me props prop bets? Am looking at Super Bowl fifty nine?
Are there bets you're already eyeing up with with people
you're talking about?

Speaker 9 (39:57):
Or No?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Do you like some of the prop I love them.

Speaker 14 (39:59):
They have the national anthem, the gator gade poor is
always my favorite of what color it's going to fish?

Speaker 13 (40:05):
I mean, always the fun prop bets.

Speaker 14 (40:07):
But what we decided to do with Gimme props is
people were writing in prop bets that they want to
see me attempt So the first one. The first episode
that launched on February second. Our YouTube channel under lost
Pages is dirty Balls.

Speaker 13 (40:21):
So again having fun and it's uh.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
By the way, when she said that she looked at you,
she get rich. She said dirty balls and look just
so you know, to clear and so I have to clean.

Speaker 14 (40:35):
Golf balls, dirty golf balls and a certain amount of time.
And then the second one was a double stacked burger
and I have to finish it in under five bytes.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Okay, yeah, I'm supposed to be fun, supposed to be fun.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Do you ever think about how you really just this is?

Speaker 14 (40:53):
I think about my digital footprint, I like shiver sometimes
the times.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
We think like we're faking life, like we talk about
radio in sports and nonsense. Real job ever, you are,
like people are betting on a cheeseburger.

Speaker 14 (41:05):
Bites hundred percent, and it's so funny because you know,
I hear people in my industry and they're like, oh,
my job is so you know, difficult, and I'm like,
we have the best job ever. Like if you talk
to someone in the real world with like an actually
challenging job, it humbles you real quick. And I'm so
blessed to be able to do what I do every
single day, and I never take that for granted. And

(41:26):
I'm so appreciative of my community that allows me to
eat cheeseburgers, like that's job.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
Ever, when you walk around like a media row like
this or a big event like the super Bowl, this
is your demo.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
So do you feel that everyone's looking where you're going? Like, like,
iise to that, but I saw you walk this way
in every radio booth is like hey is that page?

Speaker 13 (41:49):
Like oh really, yeah?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Did you get that vibe? No?

Speaker 13 (41:52):
I think I'm just so desensitized.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It happened on the golf course. It probably happens all
the time.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well, you know.

Speaker 14 (41:59):
It's funny because a lot people think, oh, you must
be like really confident, and I like, at my core,
I'm like deeply insecure. And so sometimes when people look
at me, I'm like, is there is there a makeup
on my teeth? Or like is there something wrong? And
so when people are like looking I'm like, oh my god, wait,
like there's something wrong with me, And I don't think
about it in like ever a positive way in my life.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
They're trying to read your shirt, that's what it says.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
I just hope both teams have fun, Have Fun again,
page blad it.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
I mean it was only that's really tiny print, right,
just you put it on. I gotta ask you this.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
You're talking about how great the career is, right, but
there has to be a weird side or tell us
how you balance out the fact that everybody wants to
know everything about you because everything's so public, right, and
they want to see what you're doing at home, and
they want to see all your videos and everything. How
do you balance any privacy when you're so public all
the time.

Speaker 14 (42:49):
When I first started doing this, I was an open
book and I would say everything that just you know,
popped into my head, and I realized, like, that's probably
not the best thing that you could be doing. And
so I still want to keep my authenticity and be
genuine because that's how you connect with your audience. But
there's just certain things that I decided that I'll never
talk about, which is like friends, family, any relationships.

Speaker 13 (43:11):
It's just not worth it.

Speaker 14 (43:12):
And so when you go on to any of my
social media platforms, it's me and me only because I
signed up for this, But a lot of people in
my life, especially like my best friends, they don't even
have social media and so I don't want to subject
them to There's so much good, but there is also
some bad and I've come to terms with that. But
that's not a life for everyone, and so yeah, there
is a balance, but like keeping that part of my

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life separate, and I think it's also helped with the
hate too, because it's a persona that I play. It's
a character and it's not really me or my real life.
And I think that separation it's my most confident, sexiest,
most playful side of me. The person I want to
be is who I show online. It's who I strive

(43:57):
to be that confident.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
It's like Larry David said, he wants to be who
he is uncurage. Yeah, but in real life he just can't.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
And that platform, the platform allows you expects you to
do that.

Speaker 14 (44:08):
Yeah at this point, Yeah, I mean because at the
end of the day, it needs to be entertaining, right
and so like, if I'm just sitting home in sweats
and doing nothing and like reading, people are not going
to find that interesting.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
How do you handle hate? I mean, it's easy to
say I just ignore it all. But there'll be times
we'll do a show or an event W're like, hey,
that was good. And for every nice person there's an
a hole that's saying some stuff. Do you just totally
block it all out? Or their times where you're like, yeah,
people are pretty mean. Like social media is not a
nice place.

Speaker 14 (44:36):
Again, I'm like so desensitized to it now, but I
will say that, like I've noticed that the things that
people say that bother me the most are insecurities that
I have with myself. And so you do have to
It's gonna be cheesy, but like you have to take
that journey of like self love and like figuring out
why those comments bother you. So for me, like I
feel like I failed at pro golf, and so when

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people criticize my golf gamer early on in my career,
that really ate at me because I was insecure about that.
And now again it's a persona. It's this kind of
character that I play up and being able to separate
like what I do from who I am. And it's
hard because as a content creator, you are the brand
and so when someone is criticizing you, they're criticizing the

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brand or this version that they think they know of you.
But I can't sit down and have an hour long
conversation with every single person I meet, and I feel
if I did, I would change or sway they're Maybe
not maybe I'm just you.

Speaker 13 (45:31):
Know, very unlikable and like everything that people say.

Speaker 14 (45:35):
But like, once you get to know someone, then you
can make a full, you know, judgment on who they
actually are.

Speaker 13 (45:40):
And you just won't get that opportunity with so many people.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Paigeperanic, I'm sure you get a lot of hate, but
you get a lot of love too. You have eleven
million followers across platforms. You're a celebrity, you said, social
media celebrity. However you want to put it encounter do
you put that number though?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
That's a lot of people. Million.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy, Cover Sports, Illustrated you know,
Illustrated Model, all that stuff. I wanted to ask you. Obviously,
a lot of men are reaching out to you all
the time. Let's talk about celebrity guys and athletes. Do
they hit you up constantly? Are you've always seen it?
You don't have to give us names, but it has
to be a constant thing. Yeah, is that fair to assume?

Speaker 14 (46:18):
Yeah, a lot of baseball players and hockey players because
they love golf, and so that's always like a pretty
easy transition, and then some random people sometimes and I'm
like that was really cool that like the right, right, Okay,
it's like I just don't I throughout all of this,

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like I can't believe I'm doing this.

Speaker 13 (46:40):
And so it's so weird to me.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
So you notice that though, right, it's not like you
just see that, dude and you're like yeah, whatever, You
notice it and.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
You're like, okay, interesting.

Speaker 13 (46:48):
I ever respond though, ever, no, cause it's I don't
you don't meet your heroes.

Speaker 14 (46:53):
That's what I've found out in this industry that most
of the time I'm often disappointed, and so I just
want to if I really respect or like them, I
kind of want to keep it as I envisioned.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Them in my You don't want to know that they're
really a creeper.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
No, but maybe they're not. I mean, you got to
respect sometimes people shooting their shot.

Speaker 14 (47:10):
They're a fan and they're like ay, and I'll never
like I I don't like when girls drop names or
make it into a big thing, because that's like it's disrespectful,
Like it takes.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
A lot of like oh, I know what you mean,
Like someone would screenshot and throw it out. Yeah, publicly.

Speaker 13 (47:22):
Yeah, I think that's so cringe shit.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I agree.

Speaker 13 (47:24):
Yeah, I think because it takes a lot of courage.

Speaker 14 (47:26):
To like slide into someone's DMS and then for that
then to be blasted online.

Speaker 13 (47:31):
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (47:33):
I'm actually I'm with you on Matt. Yeah, I think
that's a weak look.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
By the way, when you when you're around here, are
you a big football fan? Are you more like what
besides golf? What are your sports that you actually enjoy?

Speaker 12 (47:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (47:44):
So my aunt played freshial tennis, My dad played football
at pitt when they won the national championship.

Speaker 13 (47:50):
My mom was afecial ballet dancer.

Speaker 14 (47:52):
My sister ran track at Stanford, and so we have
most of the sports covered, big sports family. Both my
parents are from Pittsburgh, so I bleed goal and so
always been a big Pittsburgh fan. But I just love sports.
I it's just it's the best.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Because you have eleven million followers and people know who
Paige Sporanic is. Do you have the ability to be like, hey,
I want to go meet Russell Wilson. I want to
you know, you know, coach Tomlin, Like, have you infiltrated
that world.

Speaker 9 (48:22):
At all or no.

Speaker 14 (48:22):
No, I again, like I just have such imposter syndrome
that I don't even ask or try to do or
facilitate those things. Like I probably could have taken advantage
of like opportunities and I just have never done it.

Speaker 13 (48:36):
But I love Mike Tomlin I so cool.

Speaker 14 (48:40):
I think it maybe it's time the Steelers has done
but like I've always loved.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Him as a coach.

Speaker 6 (48:45):
When he finds out who'll be sligning into your DMS next.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Day, no hateful, Like, hey, wait, before all this happened
for you and the Gulf, what was like your last
regular job.

Speaker 13 (48:57):
Okay, so I this is gonna be crazy.

Speaker 14 (49:00):
My parents always said that if you gave your all
to sports, that you'd never had to work a job,
And so I was able to commit to sports get
a full ride scholarship, and so I never had to work.
And then right out of this no, I worked at
my sister's frozen yogurt shop for like a week and
then I couldn't figure out the cash register, so I

(49:22):
just started like giving people free yogurt and I got
fired by my sister. But I know I've never worked
like a real job, which I'm lucky that I fell
into what I do today. But there are so many
college athletes who are not able to get internships or
not able to get jobs, and they're thrown into the
workforce with really no skills other than what they learned

(49:43):
through athletics.

Speaker 13 (49:44):
And it's actually a pretty big problem.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Wow. I do tell my kids.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
I tell my daughter, I'm like, if you get a scholarship,
all this money dad saving, you could use it for
whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
So scholarships are a big deal.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
That time underprick story.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Because you know, you said you didn't really have to work,
but what you've done is you've built an empire here.
I'm not downplaying that, but she did get fired by
her sisters. Yeah, we can't go past that.

Speaker 14 (50:07):
Yeah, I know, I don't even have a college degree
because this happened in my senior year and so I
wasn't able to graduate, and so I really had to
like fully lean into this or else, like I mean,
would have mount Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
Let me ask you one more thing, Paige Brannick here
with Kevin on Rich Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Let's say you're on a date, hang with friends.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Yeah, you're going mini golf, top golf, any of these
things are you Are you able to check out and
be casual or you like looking at people's grips, people's swings, like,
are you able to step aside from golf?

Speaker 13 (50:38):
Funny enough?

Speaker 14 (50:38):
I am terrible at mini golf, terrible. I am so
bad at it. I don't know why. It's like it's
the same thing. I can't figure it out out of.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
A windmill or clown's mouth, and you're.

Speaker 13 (50:49):
Off, Oh, I just lose it.

Speaker 14 (50:51):
Like my mind goes in wild places and I just
can't figure it out. And They're like, we'll bank it
off here, and I'm like, that's not real golf, Like
I can't do that.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
No.

Speaker 14 (50:58):
I try to have as much fun as possible. But
if someone's asking for, you know, swing tips, I will
always help them.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
And my last question again Pageparanic, you said you like
to have fun aside from golf.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
What's like your perfect night?

Speaker 3 (51:10):
What do you like to do?

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Do you like to binge out on shows? You like
to be lazy? You like, like, what's your thing?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I mean to get home?

Speaker 14 (51:17):
Yeah, it's so funny because I the persona that you
know has kind of been created online is people think
it's like fun party girl, like doing all these cool
events with like a listers and athletes, and my go
to night is home with my dog eating ice cream,
Like what binge watching a show or reading a book,

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and like that is what I love to do.

Speaker 6 (51:38):
At your happy time.

Speaker 14 (51:39):
That's my happy eat your show. Right now, I am
one episode away from finishing Yellowstone.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
Ah, yeah, we're not on it.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
You watch on it. I've been pushing shrinking on him.

Speaker 14 (51:49):
Yeah, okay, I'll check it out because I'm going to
need a new show after a Yellowstone is done.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Tell us about your stuff, Give me props, sports crid.
We got this here, this little nice.

Speaker 14 (52:00):
Yeah, so we we always want to bring give me
props with us everywhere. Last night at opening Night, we
had a couple of fun props. One was how long
it would take for Travis Kelcey to get asked a
question about Taylor Swift over under.

Speaker 13 (52:13):
It was five minutes. I took the under and I won.

Speaker 14 (52:17):
Another one was how long it would take to get
to the front for Saquon Barkley over under forty five minutes.
We did not succeed on that one, but with the
Lost Pages poker chip, today's challenge is you have to
put it on your forearm and then try to catch
it and if you do, you get the belts.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Oh no, I'm no, I gotta do this over here.
I'll stand up for this bad boy. Hold on, here's
the ship. Oh come on, I got it first try first.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Try, I go.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
You get nice?

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Well?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, for ready, I'll take it. Give me props belt
Page Fannic. Thank you, guys, I mean so much. Follow her,
I mean follow us. She's got enough followers, you have plenty.
Can you save some for you know, for us?

Speaker 3 (52:57):
We glab where could be up obviously at Page Sporadic.

Speaker 14 (53:01):
Yeah, on my platforms that are my name, Page Brannick.
On Instagram it's Padrone. And then for the Lost Pages
give me prop show. You can find it on YouTube
under lost Pages.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Perfect a pleasure meeting you.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Thank j Thank you, thanks for being on the show.
You're welcome by any time.

Speaker 11 (53:17):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
We got more commute on Rich.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
listen live.

Speaker 6 (53:32):
Hey is Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio and there he.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Is rams legend What's Up mag with Offensive Tackle NFL
hosts an analyst on Prime, Let's welcome Andrew Whitworthday.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I'll be doing baby dude, okod man.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
First off, I know you're a big dude, but in person,
you're a house people need to understand.

Speaker 6 (53:53):
Six foot seven beefcake.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Pleasure to meet you. Man.

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Hey, mister clean.

Speaker 9 (53:57):
Man, I brought a friend today, can spring a friend day?

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Totally should have ft with him because he was like, so,
Whitworth's He's gonna be playing mister clean in a Super
Bowl out a go, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I should have said yes, that would have been good.
How do we know he's not.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (54:10):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Like the idea though, Yeah right, So hey man, thanks
for your time, Thanks for being here. Obvious thing out
of the way. When we were getting ready this morning,
I really was gonna wear the jacket and the hoodie
and I'm like, no, that's his thing.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
So you kind of ruined it for everybody.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
But is there a partnership in the works here or
what you gotta have people reaching out to you.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Yeah, that's what I keep saying. The biggest thing I've
missed out on is I don't have a hoodie line.
You know, I should. I should have my own brand
of hoodies, that's for sure. Maybe that may we'll work
on that.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
You have to, I have to.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
We got to get that done, that's for sure. Amazon.
Come on, what are we doing. We're wasting time. I
like that, you know, Listen, it's a good I need
to get it done. It's been fun, it's you know,
it's something I always wore hoodies being a big guy.
I was obviously a much bigger human, even bigger than
I am now. When I was playing, you know, you
hate college shirts. College shirt's always like sat out, like
I never the two buttons, no chance, and just like
you never know what, there's always the button. Listen, I

(54:59):
couldn't button. It's because my neck was so big and
my back was so big. So I mean, you know,
I just hated them, And so I got into wearing
hoodies and T shirts like everywhere I went. So I
either wore a jacket and a T shirt or wore
a jacket and a hoodie. And I happened to wear
a hoodie and a jacket to our first dinner at Amazon.
And they're like, you look good in that, Like would
you want to wear that for the game, like with
a suit. I was like, yeah, And it's become such
a thing, and it's a thing like I either people

(55:21):
hate it they love it and it's great. Like people
are like, dude, you're a disgrace to the game of football.
They're like, because you have a hoodie on on TV,
which I think is just like crazy and asinine. And
then there's people who are like constant dms, please dude
the brand. I need the brand, Like I'm getting my
husband something for Christmas, or my wife loves these, I'm
gonna get a bunch because she wants me to wear them,
you know.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
So it's just it's awesome to see how explosive it is.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
People either just absolutely love it hate it, and then
some people have kind of come around over the years
and they're like, hey, dude, I didn't like it at first,
but now I.

Speaker 9 (55:51):
Kind of like it.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
It's refreshing because we've talked for years about how the
sports world it's a bunch of dudes drinking and hanging.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
But yet in the broadcasting world, sports suiting up it's right,
doesn't make sense, Like all the guys that are watching
or we're in T shirts hoodies, just chilling.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
It's like like when you watch teams travel right, like
the reality is dude, like when you're like, oh man,
this team doesn't dress up like the guys who, like
I know, old schools, like you wear a suit when
you travel on the plane land Like, here's the truth.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
We wear T shirts and shorts and.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Probably aren't even wearing underwear to work on most days
with flip flocks, Like, we don't work that kind of job.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
We show up and put on pads and play football.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
So like the whole idea of us wearing business suits
or any of that is like, it's just crazy. So
it is funny like that you're almost just playing a
character to show up to the game. You don't ever
dress like that ever ever, but all of a sudden
you put on a suit to go, put on your pads.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
And your jersey, Yeah, to talk to some guy with
face paint on.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, Andrew Worth hanging with Commito and Rich.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
So the transition to the broadcasting world for you, everyone
seems to love you, which is great because I wanted
to ask, do you think people and fans are more
critical of players or announcers these days, it.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Kind of feels like it's starting to become more about
analyst announcers like wild yeah, and so it's interesting. I
think for me it's one of those things that it's
been fun to kind of figure it out over the
last three years, like who you kind of feel yourself
being and where you want to go with it because
there's so many lanes you could And I think to me,
you look at some guys get in and they want

(57:22):
to have a hot take because they just want to
get people to splash on, you know, coming after them,
and they love the attention, and then they don't like it.
Everybody gets mad at them and then they kind of
back off a little bit and kind of change their tune.
Or other guys maybe don't say enough, and you're like, man,
I'd love you to have something more opinionated.

Speaker 9 (57:35):
I think they try and find themselves.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
I think for me it was like, man, I just
want to be like really good at being true to
who I am and like if whatever's coming out of
my mouth is like just what I feel, and like
it's not about a take, it's not about a like
it's just in my emotion in that moment when I'm
watching this play. This is what I feel like it
needs to be better. This is what I think's awesome.
I don't want to give praise to This is a
guy that I feel like is doing it the right way,

(57:58):
or this is somebody that feel like they really need
to check themselves because I can see the problems they're
gonna come down the road for them if they don't
do X, Y and Z, and so I think, to me,
it's just if I can stay authentically me through that
whole process, that's what's the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, you don't have to question, right, Yeah, when I
get done, Like.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Listen, if people like me or not, are they like
the hoodie or they like my body? Like that's that's
for them, Like they're gonna decide whether they like me
or not. But I think what they'll appreciate is like
this dude's always him. He never needs to be a
character to be himself, Like he is just him. And
that's what I try to say.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Andrew Whitworth here with Cavino and Rich you played most
of your years with the Bengals, then you want with
the Rams.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
What was that transition? Like, what do you think Luca's
going through right now?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
And your boy Cooper Cup who might not be on
the team isn't going to be on the team moving forward.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
What was that like for you? Man?

Speaker 9 (58:43):
Yeah, it was obviously a massive change in life.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I mean, Melissa, I had four kids that were you know,
basically at that time five and under.

Speaker 9 (58:51):
So you know, we were five, five, four, and I
think two when we made that move.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
And so it was a massive move to move across
the country and obviously been in a May blessing and
changed changed our lives for sure, Not that we didn't
enjoy Cincinnati, but just it was just a wild changing adventure, right,
which adventures usually do. But then I look at like
other guys have experienced that, you know, you look at
Luca right now. I mean that's a big, massive change

(59:15):
as well.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
I kind of called it out when he went, you know,
I tweeted out, like, you know, the last time they
got seventy seven in La good things happened, right. I
even realize that actually happened for the Kings too. They
got Jeff Carter and won to Stanley Cups. He was
number seventy seven as well. He used to play for Philadelphia,
So it's actually happened two times in a row. So now,
Luca trifectas, let's go babies. Yeah, seven seven, let's go sevens.

(59:41):
Let's win another one in LA. That would be fantastic.
And talking about Coope, man, listen, unbelievable human. You know
life's been changed just from being around this guy. His
impact on our locker room, his impact on the players,
the coaches, the building. He is a really special human
being and incredible knowledge of the game. I mean, any

(01:00:01):
team that gets him, man, there I would if I
was a team, young quarterback, new coordinator, any of that
type stuff. Man, this is gonna be the smartest guy
in the room, maybe even smarter than the guy who's
calling the plays.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
And you want that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Guy to be able to articulate what it looks like,
the spacing, the time, and the rhythm snap in and
snap out.

Speaker 9 (01:00:18):
What's the vision for how we want to look?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Cooper is going to be like having a Sean McVay,
but as a player on the football field for you,
And I think that's something really I think only for
the Rams it's because they have Pooka.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
It's like, all right, and you've trained Puka. But for
another team, man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I would be saying this is the kind of dude
at whatever I got to do to get me in
my locker room for my young receivers and my young quarterback,
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
We talked to Pooka about it yesterday. He's seen bummed,
not on a flip side on your buddy leaves the team.
That's got to be tough too. And we heard you
reached out to him because you guys are like family.
When you went together, it's a deeper bond.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, And you know, obviously it's raw emotion
when something like that happens, right, and so you're upset.
I mean, no matter what, that's not what you want
to hear. It's gonna happen. Cooper's the kind of guy
like he's gonna respond to that adversity in an amazing way.
But man, you talk about the impact he's had on
Pooka in every second they spend together in so many
ways it don't even have to do with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
A football field.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Pooka will be forever changed and in his mindset, his mentality,
like his daily approach and process to how he chases
greatness because he got to be around Cooper sold with
that entire receiver room and much less that than the
entire locker room. So you know, I think that's why.
I mean, Coop's gonna have a huge impact. But a
guy like Pooka, you've gotten to see what it looks like,
What does that chase look like, what does the work

(01:01:34):
day in and day out look like?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Can you now go be that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
I always say that as a player, when you get
in the league, it's like you get drafted. You get
this opportunity to like show who you are and try
to make a name for yourself, and all right, well,
this guy's gonna move to that next contract. He's a
guy who's gonna make it to a second contract. But
then it becomes all right, you're great. What's your impact
on everybody around you? What's your impact on our offense?
What's your impact on our group? Not just about just you?

(01:01:58):
And you have to take those little steps all throughout
your career. Pucas is just getting accelerated a little bit
with Cooper leaving, but he's got to become a leader
of that group and he's built to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
And you were a leader on the Rams. He's one
of the guys that, even if you're not a Rams fan,
when he won. People are happy for you now. It
was like, man, pretty pretty epic man Witworth, feel good story.
The transition to broadcasting. People love you there, so you're
you're a comfortable guy in who you are as.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
People like you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
But when you get up there and address a stadium
and a country after the wild fire man, First of all,
how early do you find out you're doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
And even a guy like you do the nerves kick in, like,
oh what am I.

Speaker 11 (01:02:37):
Going to end?

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
You know it was wild We were actually doing Thursday
night you are Amazon on Prime. We had our first
NFL playoff games, So we're doing Steelers Ravens and you know,
in in Baltimore, and so I'm you know, I'm going
to that game and I get a text on like
I think it was Friday or something like, hey, the
league's got like a cool opportunity. They think, like it

(01:02:58):
would be awesome if the game's getting moved, you know,
for you to maybe address our fans and blah blah
blah blah, And like I'm thinking in my mind, this
is like oh okay, like sometime way before the game starts,
like just fans that are there, I'm gonna get you know,
and then as I'm realizing, like oh no, no, no,
this is like right before the game kicks off, so
it's like you kind of got get nerds. And I
get to get there to the game and I realize

(01:03:20):
that they've got this Beyonce stage I'm gonna stand on,
as I called it, because.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
It's like this elevated stage.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And then like it's ESPN and they give me my
headset and they're like, oh, Joe Book's gonna say you're
down there. And then there's this guy who's gonna say go,
and I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is live
Monday night football playoff them it's go time. So I
will say that is probably the most nervous I've been
for like something, because that was you have forty seconds. Yeah,

(01:03:48):
we're gonna say go, the national anthem is starting in
forty seconds, get it out whatever it is. Yeah, oh yeah,
because it's like you got forty seconds. He's gonna say
go the national anthem starts. You don't have a clock anywhere,
so you're hoping what you just said, it's forty seconds
that it was real Like I was a little like afterwards,
like all right, that was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Were your kids like that. That was cool. Did you like,
dear kids now sort of understand more of what dad does.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
It was honestly awesome, not just for my family, but
just people really across the country, across sports just in
general that were watching that game and kind of felt
that emotion and probably had some feeling they were feeling
about everything had been going on anyways that reached out
just with love and stuff from that. It was a
really cool, like you try to pull your passion and

(01:04:32):
all out and give it to people and tell them
how much you care about them, but then to also
get it back from people.

Speaker 9 (01:04:37):
It was a really neat moment.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
That's and Drew Whitworth as an analyst and by the way,
you're doing a great job. I have one last question
because it's probably going to be the topic of discussion.
If Mahomes wins four and six years, is that better
than seven and twenty three years?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Is he the go?

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
It's going to be an ongoing got to hit the conversation.
But you know what, if it takes over Lebron MJ,
then not bad.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I would rather not discuss any of them, but that man,
here's what I keep you know, I keep saying, I
do think he is Michael Jordan.

Speaker 9 (01:05:08):
I will say that now.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Whether people think that Michael Jordan's would go to basketball
or not to go to the basketball blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 9 (01:05:14):
I just think that's who he is in our game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
When you look at all the great players that he's
blocking from their opportunity, when you look at Josh Allen,
you look at Lamar Jackson, like yeah, and you think
of Jordan and those eras and all the.

Speaker 9 (01:05:25):
People had a championship if they just didn't have to
face him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
I do think that, But I think it's harder to
argue that the winningness because I think that that probably
says that you have to stay with Tom because of
all the you know, all the trophies, but the best,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
It was having coach the other night with an NFL
head coach and was like, hey, I don't know, he
might be the best though the three he might be
the best it's ever playing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
That's wild.

Speaker 9 (01:05:53):
Even it might not be the winningness, but he is
probably the best.

Speaker 6 (01:05:56):
Now it's never gonna stop.

Speaker 5 (01:05:57):
You're here at mister clean magic eraser. And by the way,
I'm taking these home because these are the best thing
to clean your sneakers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, I'm just about to say sneakers. These are the
wear a lot of white sneakers on the road with
our show. So I have to have you know magic
say not only for like cleaning around the house. I'm
always like I always tell my wife, I'm like, put
one aside from.

Speaker 9 (01:06:16):
My sneakers, always got on right now.

Speaker 5 (01:06:19):
People don't realize the mister clean magic racers the best
thing to use for the little smudges on your white sneakers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
There's no doubt by far. And when you got four
kids and three dogs, I got a lot of things.
Magic erasers are good. Little smudges on the wall too,
But yeah, bouncing on the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Okay, haired dye? How do you think my hair is?
Jeff like this hair dye splashing on the wall. I
got to clean it off with the magic racer.

Speaker 9 (01:06:41):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
Thank you guys, before you go. Andrew Whitworth here con
being on Rich.

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
A couple of weeks ago, Saquon said that touchdown in
the snow was his best moment ever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Was your one touchdown memory you'll never forget because you
have one touchdown?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I do one listen to one for one for one yard,
one touchdown, one route, one catch one that's the way
touchdown on my birthday. Yeah really on on my birthday
twelve twelve, twenty ten in Pittsburgh opening drive of the game.
Fun fact, I actually think that we need to get
the NFL history on this. I need to I need
to get the league to do this. I was the

(01:07:16):
only offensive touchdown scored in that game. So Steelers had
two pick sixes. I think can beat us in a
low scoring game. But I was the only officer. So
I would love to know how many games an offensive
lineman has been the only offensive touchdown in the game
on their birthday.

Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
On the birthday, particularly old a record for that. I'm
just looking for a record.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Thank you ye Andrew continued success. Yeah, I love watching.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Appreciate you guy.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Have we got more Covete on wretch next?

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Thank you, mister Clean.

Speaker 7 (01:07:47):
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
listen live.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Hey is Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio and
we're joined by NFL Legend and Super Bowl Champion, Drew
Brees and Drew You're here with bounty.

Speaker 10 (01:08:09):
You put a big plate of wings in front of me,
and you expect me to focus on this interview. No,
I want you to shout out on these wings. And
then when you get messy and you're like, man, what
do I do to clean this up? I got your
bounty fix right here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
We got us.

Speaker 10 (01:08:23):
Because you can't have football without wings, can't have wings
without bounding. Well, let me start before we talk football
and also all the fun stuff. Blue cheese a ranch.
This is like the debate that never goes away. So
I think if you were asking, like an og buffalo
wing dude, which Rob Gronkowski, Gronk Chris and he's the.

Speaker 11 (01:08:41):
Bounty man and he asked me to be his wing
man in.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
This is I think he would say blue cheese. I'm
a blue cheese guy myself.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
I feel you, yeah, but I'm dairy free, so I
stay away from you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Stay away.

Speaker 5 (01:08:53):
By the way, when you say Gronky, I mean you
had some great tight ends Jimmy grahmmon his prime, and
but I mean would have been fun to play with Gronk.

Speaker 10 (01:09:00):
Gronk's a monster. I don't think you realize how big
that dude is. Yeah, he's hilarious too. He's he's every
yeah yeah, like like I I get it, you know,
he's he's like.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
His person. Here's the thing. He's so much fun to
be around.

Speaker 10 (01:09:17):
Like like you know those dudes that just they're just
having more fun than everybody else. That's wrong, right, Like
just like can we inject that? Like does that injectable?

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
You know people are so subdued and he has the
complete option.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
No, no, yeah, that's how I feel like social media,
Like why is everybody living such a great life? Everyone's
having so much fun? That's Gronk, right, Why is he
having so much fun?

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
What is it? That is?

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
Although he was asked today because we were doing a
bunch of stuff together. They were like, you know, where,
when's the Gronk beach bash that happens at every super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
He's like, you know, I've out grown that.

Speaker 10 (01:09:45):
I've outgrown I've turned the page to a newer, a
newer Gronk mature.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
He only crushes three beat, but.

Speaker 10 (01:09:56):
Then he goes, no, we've actually moved to tape for
twentieth at Wrestle.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
All we've done is just postponed. Hey, Drew Brees hanging
with Covin on Rich. I think super Bowls. I happen
to be at the one that you won, and I
remember it was the first Super Bowl I attended. And
you know, you with your son and the headphones. Is
it a lasting image? And now I pick back, I
had to look at it before you got here. Your
sounds like a grown man that he's sixteen years old.

Speaker 10 (01:10:23):
Man, he's a grown boy dude trying to get his
driver's license.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Is that wild to you? Looking back?

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Like that might be the coolest father son picture. I
got to figure out how to do that with my
kid one day.

Speaker 10 (01:10:35):
Yeah, I can't replicate that, you know, it was It's
crazy because obviously he's a kid. You know, I was
a sports junkie, you know, I wanted to be a
professional athlete, actually want to be a professional baseball player.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Football wasn't really on the radar.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
But once I was kind of on this football path
and I just envisioned, like, you know, what's the what's
the ultimate goal here?

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
What's the ultimate prize? Win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 10 (01:10:55):
And yeah, the Lombardi Trophy, But like, honestly, I just
had this image in my mind of if I ever
get a chance to be up there, like, I hope
that I have a son that I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Able to share that moment with you envision.

Speaker 10 (01:11:07):
Sure enough, all of a sudden, it's a manifestation of
just you know, here it is, you know, and so honestly,
it was like time stood still.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
It was just it was the most amazing moment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Two questions as he grows up and by the way,
such an awesome moment. But he's sixteen. Do you get
in the car with him? He must have his permit?
Are you frightened by this? And do you get him
his first car?

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Look, he's.

Speaker 10 (01:11:30):
I think every sixteen year old boy definitely had like
the connections.

Speaker 11 (01:11:35):
Quite and aren't quite all there, you know what I'm.

Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
Saying, Like it's still you know, like they still do
and say stuff where you're like, what.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
Does he have the broccoli head haircut?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Oh? For sure. Yeah, he's the kind of kid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I'm keeping my fifteen year old daughter away from it,
away from the brock gol.

Speaker 10 (01:11:50):
There's no question. I got a ten year old daughter
and I'm just but yeah, you know, he's he's actually
been pretty good, like not too bad. You know, we
learn how to park, you know, in between cars and
actually drive next to cars and have awareness with changing lanes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
So scary, man, dude, it is, Yeah, it's it's really scary.

Speaker 10 (01:12:10):
I'm not I'm not really excited about the whole driving thing,
other than the fact that, like finally it's you don't
have to drive them everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
You know, right, Hey, I want to go here, great,
drive yourself there?

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
Yeah because here his shot?

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Right, because right, yeah, exactly right. I feel like this
guy every day I'm like where are you? Like I'm
driving my daughter and it's always just somewhere.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Like not close and their friends and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Yeah, now you're talking about Gronk before and his personality type.
You were a great leader man, tell us about that
when you deal with all these different age groups and personalities.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
What was your approach to leadership?

Speaker 10 (01:12:42):
Well, it was It was interesting later in my career
because you know, here, I am, call it thirty seven
to forty two years old, right, and just about everybody
walking in the locker room is twenty two, twenty three,
twenty four years old, right, So huge generational gap. Like
there were moments where I'm in the weight room, like
a song comes on the radio, you or something I'm like, ah,
this was my jam like eighth grade, middle school, like

(01:13:04):
like you're envisioned like a middle school dance or something,
you know, and you're like, oh, this is my and
like you see one of the young bucks and you're like, hey, man,
you remember this song.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
That like like that was important? No, no, no, exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:13:16):
Now my kids call me an unk, like when I
say stuff like that, like, Dad, you're such an unk.
So anyway, but at the end of the day, like
showing these guys that you care about them and showing
these guys man like I want to help you be successful.
Like every at the start of every off season, I
would ask these young guys, I want you to write
down three goals for me, Like I want a professional goal,

(01:13:37):
I want a personal goal, I want a family goal,
and I want to go through those things together and
I want you to know that I'm there to help
support you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Would actually do that, absolute would.

Speaker 10 (01:13:45):
I would write them down for myself and then I
would I was kind of a vulnerable, Hey guys, this
is what I'm trying to accomplish. Man, you'll hold me accountable.
And then they share it to me and like, okay,
I'm gonna hold you accountable. But the end of the day, like, look,
every every guy who comes to the league has these
visions of Man, I'm getting to this this big this
second contract, like I've got these personal goals I'm trying
to achieve. And I always one of those guys to know, Man,

(01:14:05):
I'm right there with you, Like take your role, accept
your role. It may not be the role that you
want right now, this is where you want to be.
Here's what you have to do to get there, and
I'm gonna help you get there every step.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Of the way. Leadership right there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, and he did it for twenty years, so he
had to have a knack of leading all different types
of men.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
And who do you see that leadership in today? Like
who do you admire like that guy?

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
He does it right.

Speaker 10 (01:14:27):
You know, it's hard not to admire these young qbs
right that are coming up right now. In fact, it's
it's I feel like it's fairly unprecedented where literally like
let's kind of start with Mahomes' class. Heartedly he's like
the older statesman a year you know seven as a
starter that Yeah, but like you just kind of go
down the list of guys like Lamar and Josh right,

(01:14:51):
and then kind of that Burrow class, right, and then
these six dudes who came out last year, right, and
they're Jane Daniels, had and bon Nicks and like now
Caleb Williams is getting you know, Ben Johnson, right, and
so like you look at this these these guys and
just going, man like, the future is so bright for
the NFL with all these young qbs. But like there's
something about Jayden Daniels. Obviously sawmon Ls. You actually spend

(01:15:12):
a little time with them at LSU. Right when he
transferred there was really impressed with like his poison composure
and just felt like there was like a focus and
an intentionality and and he kind of man from his
junior year to his senior year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
Man, Like there was just this flip.

Speaker 10 (01:15:25):
And as I watched him this year, I watch if
you want to know about a guy, just watch the
way guys react towards him. You know, Like watch the
way the O line reacts when the dude gets knocked down,
you know, and if they're running over to like like okay,
they love his guys, you know, or like after the
game a touchdown pass or something. Man, everybody, So like
I see these guys, and you know, whatever their style is,

(01:15:46):
just make sure it's authentic. I don't think there's a
lot of raw rod guys. But like, man, sometimes you're fiery.
A lot of times you're poison composed. At the end
of the day. Like, the more that you care about
your guys, man, the more that they're gonna want to
take care of you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Drew Brees hanging with Covino on rich. I just picture.

Speaker 5 (01:16:00):
The last game you played in when you looked back
at on the field, you took that pause by the tunnel,
turned around and looked Was that was that one of
the more emotional moments of your life that didn't involve
maybe your kids or wife.

Speaker 10 (01:16:11):
Yeah, I mean, look, it was obviously it was. It
was tough because you know, it's it's COVID and so
there's no fans in the in the stands, you know, right,
So didn't really feel like got that a great feeling
of closure, you know, and obviously you just lost a
playoff game, and you know, you you hope that you
would have kept going further. But yeah, it was just
I kind of I kind of knew that you know,

(01:16:32):
that was that was probably it, and and so just
that one last glimpse that that would have been home
for so long.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
You ever get that after you retired? Did you ever
get the itch?

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Like I know I could still do it, like like
when you would see like Tom doing it as forty
He's like, I.

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
Could probably, I'll be honest with you, if if if
my right shoulder wasn't you know, I had that really
bad injury in in with with the Chargers, and I
knew I was on a fast track at that point
to like early on set arthritis and just a bunch
of wear and tear, right, I mean, And the doctor
told me that, and he's like, man, you just kind
of hang on as long as you can. I used
to call it prolong my prime, like I'm just gonna prolong,

(01:17:05):
prolong and prolonged. But man, toward the last couple of years,
I could just feel like, man, it was just a
struggle just to kind of throw throughout the week to
get to game day, right, and you function right, You
find ways to survive, and like, man, I couldn't throw
it much past like forty five yards, right, but I'll
freaking rip you up inside of thirty. That's say football,
But that's what I'm saying is like your your mental
your your knowledge, experience, wisdom is in an all the

(01:17:26):
time high, but the physical skills start to diminish. Like
if I could throw the ball like my body, I
could play. I could play right now, I could process again,
I still see the game right, but just the right
shoulder doesn't. Now, maybe he's a lefty, like if the
if the field it maybe Flagg Football Olympic LA twenty
twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
There you go, left handed. Nice. I'm gonna give it
a go, right.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
I know you got to run bounty anything. You gotta
let us know about what's doing here.

Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
Yeah, you know football wings, wings bounty, Like everybody's getting
together on Super Bowl Sunday, like whipping up the chili
and the dogs and the you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
Know cheese dip been you know the blue cheese.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
What do you need you know?

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
And what do you need to clean up?

Speaker 11 (01:18:04):
Do you need bounty?

Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
My mom always yelled at me for using too much
of the paper towels.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Can I waste them?

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
Can I use as many as I want?

Speaker 10 (01:18:10):
Or yeah you can use it, man. I mean like,
don't intentionally make a mess, but like when you do,
you know, we just we just soak it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Up with Bunty. Highly absorb it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
He's a super Bowl champion. Here at super Bowl Week,
NFL legend Drew Brees on the Cavino.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
And d thank you. Absolutely always a pleasure.

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