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Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos filling in for C&R this week as they discuss the exchange between Draymond Green and Charles Barkley on Inside the NBA. Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for C&R as they discuss the comments Lebron James made after the Lakers' game one loss to the Thunder, and Charles Barkley responds to Draymond!

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You were not seen it in a purple bandana.

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know spoilers anybody for Chris on the Office. Sure fine,
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tonight we have two huge game twos in the NBA Playoffs.
But let's be honest, moncie. All games of the NBA
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I don't think I have OCD. I don't think that
that's it, But there are things that I like in
order there's a little bit of OCD. I think at everyone.
One of my favorite OCD things is I love to
look at Curtis Martin, the former Jets and Patriots running
back his Pro Football Reference page because all it is
is just thousand yard seasons. There's not like one with
eight hundred and then one with twelve hundred, and then

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one with nine hundred and then fourteen hundred. It's just
all one thousand yard seasons. I like those things. I
like to go in order of things, So I do
want to start with last night in what transpired. Honestly, Monzi,
nice win for the Pistons, solid win for the thunder
They just gradually pulled away. I'm not gonna say that
you went one in one and I went two and
oh last night. That puts me at four and oh

(02:43):
straight up in the NBA playoffs. You want winners, bring
them here. Well, the guys are on vacation. We make
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(03:06):
recorded voiceline or something about that.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Wow, how many drugs did you practice that?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't even think I looked at the right camera.
I was looking at the one that's right at me,
and then I'm seeing we've got our two shot here,
so I think I was looking at the wrong one.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
So yeah, you were talking to nobody.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
But four and oh straight up, congratulations on your foreigner.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Some people may say that's difficult to do, but it's
what we do here at Fox Sports Radio. The Thunder
beating the Lakers was not a surprise. No, not a surprise,
especially how it played out. Lakers maybe hang around a
little while, have a lead early, then the Thunder kind
of starts to distance themselves. I don't have a huge
takeaway from what happened on the court last night. My

(03:49):
biggest takeaway is what happened in the locker room last night,
where Lebron James ended up speaking on why the Lakers
may have lost Game one to the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Is the Lakers star? Where do you think the offensive
issues are coming from?

Speaker 6 (04:04):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (04:05):
Obviously that's a grantee of issues coming from. Yeah, yeah,
we have a got average thirty seven in the game.
What do you have thirty five this year? Thirty three
and a half?

Speaker 6 (04:17):
What do you love?

Speaker 8 (04:18):
What do you what are you asking?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Okay, well I'm asking.

Speaker 8 (04:20):
I mean, like you guys, there's the issues right there.

Speaker 9 (04:22):
We're playing against the number one defensive team in the
NBA as far as the ratings and everything, and when
you play against great defense, you have to have guys
that can attract multiple defenders on the floor at all time.
Even I felt like we had great shots. We got
some great shots to night, we missed them.

Speaker 8 (04:43):
When you play against the.

Speaker 9 (04:45):
World champions, having a guy that averages thirty four.

Speaker 8 (04:50):
Six and eight and eight and nine wherever the hell,
you know, that's special.

Speaker 6 (04:53):
That's so we have to be better at.

Speaker 9 (04:57):
Finding ways to get to the blender, find ways to
get to the pain. You know, we know they're paint
swarm routine. So we have to be better with, you know, getting.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
To the paint, not turn the ball over and they
shooting no confidence.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
But I feel like we got some really good looks.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
When I went out to eat for an anniversary dinner
last Wednesday, I didn't get a loaded baked potato. I
get some cheese, get some bacon. I'm not a sour
cream fan. That sound it hit sour cream. It had chives,
it had butter, it had cheddar cheese, it had bacon,
It had the full nine yards Monty Beilagios because Lebron
James was telling you everything that he wanted you to

(05:31):
hear without actually saying it. He's throwing Luka Doncic under
the bus. He then wants you to go and look
at the box score and say, Lebron, you were twelve
or seventeen, you had twenty seven points tonight. Could you
do it by yourself? Well apparently not, because Austin Reeves
threw up a stinker last night. There was so much
involved in that SoundBite. He threw everything at you without

(05:52):
saying anything.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Without saying anything, and told me he man explained everything
to me.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Is what he did. I just was like, we know all.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Of this, Lebron, And it was almost like he should
have just been like, yeah, don't we all miss Luca.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
But then it wasn't just that, it was making.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Sure, like you pointed out, we knew what he did,
and he made sure we also knew that nobody else
helped him along the way, that he didn't have his star,
but he did what he could and was alone by
himself trying to be the best team in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's what he told us, and it's just kind of
like we already we knew that you not having Luca
was huge. We knew you were gonna lose to the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
But sometimes it's like the question comes, how how can
you guys get going without We know Luca's not coming,
we know that how can you get going without him?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I just it was so it was honestly like it
was man spin laning.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It's a great way to spin it though, And I
think that's what perked up with Jason Stewart's ears as well.
Right away you thought something was funky with the way
that Lebron was talking.

Speaker 10 (06:53):
So Lebron did his podcast with Steve Nash this past week,
and I'm sure he told Steve to ask him, like,
how how do you do it at forty one?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like?

Speaker 10 (07:01):
Are you surprised that you're playing at this level?

Speaker 6 (07:04):
You know?

Speaker 10 (07:04):
In other words, he was more than happy to take
all of the credit for the Wakers getting beyond that
first round where they weren't supposed to do it, and
he played well, but the second they lose, well, the
other guy's not here. I just think it's a jerk.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Move, right It is, especially when you hear Anthony Edwards,
as we talked about yesterday, in a game where he
wins being asked how he felt, and he was he
was disappointed with himself when he came out and played
in an unexpected game and had a good game, was effective.
He says, I was not myself. I wasn't good enough,
and so it's just kind of was like, Lebron, this

(07:38):
was your chance. You could have just said, like, I
did not do enough, We'll get it better next time.
There were so many different ways to go about it,
but instead you talk.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
You tell me I'm stupid to my face.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
The words that he says because he is. What he
is saying is he's glossing over the and by glossing over,
I'm saying he's highlighting. He's pointing out how much Luca averages.
It sounds like he's praising Luca and being like, man,
what could we do, But in reality he's doing the
exact opposite. He's saying, don't blame me for this. Blame

(08:12):
our star who averages thirty five points a game that
can't be healthy. And that's the reason why the Mavericks
ended up trading him out of a Dallas. That's who
you have to blame. So the numbers that I am
saying aren't saying like, yeah, of course we can't compete
with an NBA champion, but hey, if you're Superstar, the
guy that you love Los Angeles, the guy that you

(08:33):
want to take the crown from me or to carry
the torch, if this is your guy, then why isn't
he here? And he knows that he only has so
many opportunities to say this because the series is probably
not going to go in their favor, and if they're
down three l then it sounds like sour grapes. But
you do it after a game win loss, where you
pick the thunder. I picked the thunder, everyone picked the thunder.

(08:54):
We figured Oklahoma City was going to win, and we
think Oklahoma City's going to win this series. But it's
still competitive. The Lakers had a lead in the first half,
Austin Reeves goes three of sixteen from the floor. Those
are all things that if you're a Lakers fan and
you're not being bamboozled by anything, you look and say, okay,
if Austin Reeves plays better, and maybe we get Luca
later on this series. And we know Lucas spoke today,

(09:16):
but that's not there's nothing to do with anything that
happened necessarily last night, except for maybe Luca trying to
defend his own self. Lebron took the opportunity to try
to throw Luca under the bus, and this was probably
his last time to do it while he was still
in a Lakers' uniform because he's not going to be
back in LA next year. I don't think they want
him back in LA. I don't know where he's going

(09:37):
to be. But this was Lebron doing Luca dirty by saying, yeah,
I know we lost by eighteen. They're the world champs.
We could compete with them if our guy could.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Stay healthy, and I don't know if you could compete
with them if your guys stay holy. By the way,
Lebron and the game, the game itself, like when I
was watching it, you said like the Lakers made it competitive,
you know, And I know at halftime the number said that,
But I think I put it in our pre show
discussion where I was just like you could to me,
I could tell Okac was not really trying.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
They were making sure to keep it close.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
But then they came out in the second half and
you can see the difference in the team.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
At the beginning, I felt like they weren't. They weren't
giving them their all. They took it easy.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
To be honest, that's what That's what I was, you know,
that was my opinion in the first half that OKAYC
was taking it easy because.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
They knew what the Lakers.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
There's no way the Lakers were gonna win that game.
It would require so many wrong and unlocked, unlucky things
to happen to Okac for the Lakers to have pulled
out that way on the road after the thunder, have
had how many days off and are just chilling at
home Like they knew. They were ready for this, They
were ready to step on their throats, and I think
they did it but later on, but they didn't give

(10:46):
it their all.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
From the beginning. They did not do that.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
So Lucas spoke today, I know we have the audio.
It wasn't great. Sam. I'm leaving this on your shoulders.
Do we want to hear Luca from the tunnel where
the sound is bouncing off all of the walls. Do
we want to be able to just I just don't
know if the quality is great. I'll say this, Yeah,
the quality isn't great. Let's not do it. I'll paraphrase

(11:09):
Lucas said, this just Luca doesn't talk loud. There's a
mic far away, the sound bounces. It's just it's not
great audio. Lucas said, the doctor told me, he goes, yeah,
I'm frustrated. It's been more than a month. It was
April second when he heard his hamstring in Oklahoma City,
so now we're past the one month mark. He did say,
the doctor told me this is an eight week injury,
and so what he's saying now is I'm four weeks

(11:32):
maybe five weeks in that if I'm back, it's not
going to be this series, and it would have to
be at best the next series. And I do think
that comment is in response to what Lebron had to
say last night. But Lebron, like Luca, looks at it.
It's like, hey man, what do you want me to do.
I've got a serious injury. That's not Lebron's goal. Lebron

(11:53):
doesn't even want Luca back for this series. What Lebron
wants you to know is they're not going to win
because your star Luca is not available for the playoffs.
I'm here at forty one giving everything I can do,
and the other guy that you love Austin Reeves just
went three of sixteen from the floor. I gave you
twelve of seventeen twenty seven points in thirty six minutes
at forty one years of age. That's what I gave

(12:14):
you against the defending world champions. You get your other
boys in line. That's what Lebron is saying to everyone
right now.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
That's a really good point, and that is what he's saying.
But it's like, this is gonna buy Luca saying that. Now,
what's gonna be? What are you gonna say next? And
I think Luca him saying this, Why is this just
coming out? I feel like the minute he came back
from Spain and he was not ready to go, they
should have just said this dude is out for the

(12:40):
next six to eight weeks, like, don't even entertain the idea.
But they kept kind of playing with us that he
may be coming back sooner rather than later. But aren't
most hamstring injuries about six to eight weeks, yes, so
after Spain. I don't understand why this wasn't the information
from the very beginning. That's just besides the point, I guess,
because your point is right on the money. That is

(13:00):
exactly what Lebron James is doing in this situation. I
still don't agree with you. I think he's going to
be a Laker. I think he doesn't want to go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I don't think that they want him back.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And I agree with you, I really do. I just don't.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
I am not as convinced as most people that he
is not going to be in LA next year.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I'm just not as convinced. And this has been me
I feel for like a while, but most people think that.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I know.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I don't think the Lakers want him, but I don't
think he was to go anywhere.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
He is so good with his words, like he like
he is, like he is giving the message out of
what he wants to do, and I give him credit
for that. Again, if you thought that he was praising Luca,
let's just hear let's hear a little bit from Lebron again,
just of what we just played, because I want you
to hear it now on the years, on how he's
actually throwing Luka Doncic and in a way Austin reeves

(13:48):
under the bus. Listen to this and tell me if
you hear it differently. Now where do you think the
offensive issues are coming?

Speaker 6 (13:54):
From right now.

Speaker 7 (13:55):
Obviously that's a grant takes of issues coming from yeah, well,
well god, thirty seven in the game, what are you ever?

Speaker 6 (14:03):
Thirty five?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
This year thirty.

Speaker 8 (14:05):
Three and ahead? I mean, what are you asking?

Speaker 7 (14:09):
Okay, well I'm asking.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
I mean, like you guy, there's.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
The issues right there?

Speaker 9 (14:12):
Were playing against the number one defensive.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
Team in the NBA.

Speaker 9 (14:16):
When you play against the world champions, having a guy
that averages thirty four, if be't.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Special there it is the question is you, Lebron? You
who you self crown? Who is considered the.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Goat by you? And you're some of your peers?

Speaker 4 (14:32):
How can you help the offense because you don't have
Luka Doncic?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
How can you.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Make everybody else around you better?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
When Austin Reeves is having a bad night? How can you?
That's the question? How can you do it? Lebron?

Speaker 8 (14:45):
But why?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh most time?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
What more do you want him to do? He's forty
one years old. He just won twelve of seventeen for
twenty seven points, six assists and four rebounds.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
How much do you make, Lebron? That would have been
my next one.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's that's what he's trying to tell you.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
But how much do you make It's okay, all right,
but are you not number two? Are you not number two?

Speaker 4 (15:03):
I just we I get it, but it's like there's
so many questions as a reporter, and I know you
don't want to get kicked out, you don't want to
be banned all of that, But it's like like some
I wish someone would just give him some, you know,
more direct questions and not handle him so much with
kid gloves.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
But I know everyone's afraid to be banned from that position.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't think that. I just think that Lebron knows
what he's doing in a way almost disarms because if
you were to do that, manci what he would say?
What are you talking about? I'm just I just told
you that kuy led the league in scoring at thirty
three points per game, thirty five points per game, right,
So that's his way of doing it. So we're gonna
it's almost like he disarms you. I don't know Jason

(15:44):
that way as well, but he's so good with his
words that we then have to really read between the
lines for the meeting because if you do call him
on it, on the surface, everything looks great. On the surface,
he's saying man, we're down my teammate. This is a
teammate here. You know, we need Luca. That's what he's saying.
But in reality, what he is saying is you Laker

(16:04):
fans and your boy Luca, that's the reason why we
didn't win tonight right here.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
No, you're so right.

Speaker 10 (16:10):
It's almost like he said, twenty five years of being
one of the most famous people on the planet and
he has mastered the art of these this wordsman's was
this wordsmith's Yeah, what's the word? No, No, you're right.
He that's a perfect answer for him, Lebron James, and
I know he thought about it even before the game.

(16:30):
This was like a locked and loaded response to something
once something went wrong, and it probably should have been
used last series, but everything went so right that he
just kind of shelved it right.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
It was he could have been a soft launch, but
then Durant wasn't around, so let's and now he knows
time is running out. You couldn't do this when you're
down two oh or down three to zero because then
it just rings hollow. I mean, this is the EMBI
news is huge, and we're gonna get to that because
we're gonna be taking victory laps here. Not not that
jerlmbid is heard. That's not the case. But there was
just so much to this, and my OCD was like,

(17:03):
you know, we have to start with last night. We'll
get to today in just a little bit. But from
what Lebron had to say and and and what he
didn't say by saying it, I think spoke volumes.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Yeah, you're not wrong.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
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Sam is hanging out, as is Chris Prefett. Chris, if
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Will save that for all right, he's doing the work.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
He's please, he's doing work right now. But if you
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Prefett looks like prison Mike from the Office episode. If
you know what we're talking about, hanging out, Camuno and
Rich still on vacation again, Danny g and Rich going
to the same spot. Carino's way far away from everybody else.
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Manci. I'm gonna be honest. This is day four. Is
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the right link for our YouTube. Still don't know the
name of Mike's segment from yesterday.

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That's good, hey, listen. At least you're not moving backwards.
At least you're kind of just in the same spot.
That's never a bad thing. What's up, everybody? Happy Thursday?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
We are going to look backwards a bit of a
throwback Thursday, but not the way that could be in
a and Rich usually do it. It comes up in
about twenty minutes or so. But we are going to
look back at not only something that we said yesterday,
but something that Draymond Green said yesterday.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Oh yeah, Draymond Green had a lot to say about
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Speaker 1 (20:26):
I only say this because when you tweet out the
show stuff, there is this nice graphic yes that shows up.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
When I just tweeted it out, it was a link.
So I think.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I'm not doing anything fancy here. I'm literally just been
pasting it, Dan.

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I know.

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I just think I may have done the wrong one canal.

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On, Yes, you can.

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here on a should we call it a stressed out Thursday.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
No calmed him down at that quickly.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Everything is good. Everything is all good, and we said
goodbye to prison. Mike can say hello to Chris Perffetts
at the news desk. What's going on, Chris?

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Everything is wonderful. Everything is fantastic.

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It is it is, unless you're Draymond Green, who, for
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I think Draymond Green is fine. I think he's fine,
like he thinks he's fine. Yes, do you get what
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I don't think he's losing sleepover any of the things
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Are you sure?

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I really don't think so.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'll tell you what. The inside of the NBA crew
is super professional. And last night, after a dog of
a game between the Timberwolves and Spurs, something that, by
the way, I thought we called in tinder Wolves. Are
you calling it tinder Wolves like Moncey or wolves?

Speaker 10 (21:51):
It depends who's saying it. To Man's Timberwolves.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I think we called last night's tinder Wolves game, yes,
where we thought it was going to be a blowout. Now,
Wendy didn't have thirty, but they didn't need them to
do because they were up by thirty for most of
the second half, if not all of it, so it
was a blowout. After that game he got to do
inside the NBA, and even Ernie made the joke. But
this happened earlier inside the NBA in the program with
Draymond Green sitting in the chair of Shaquille O'Neal talking

(22:16):
about the latter days of the Warriors and as their
raigin is coming to an end, which shouldn't be a
shock to anyone who was a theme throughout the season,
and when he saw them hug on the sidelines, he
kind of knew something was going to happen. Still no
determination on Steve Kerr's future, but Draymond Green, Kenny Smith,
Charles Barkley, Ernie Johnson talking about the demise of the
Warriors and this is how it all started.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
Sports are for young people.

Speaker 14 (22:40):
You hope to have a great, long career, but sports nobody.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Wins when they're thirty seven, thirty eight.

Speaker 15 (22:47):
That you said what you said, I didn't want to
hear if he believes what you're talking, Yeah, I mean
I think the goal is just to not look like
you in the Houston Rockets uniform.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, as artimulated goal for us, like, we don't want.

Speaker 15 (23:00):
To what does that look like?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Did you see it? I'm just asking I saw it.
I mean, so, all right, that's kind of the point.
I don't think Charles heard him. I don't think Charles
was listening to him, because Charles said yeah to that
point where it sounded like it agreed with him, and
I don't think that he did. Because then Kenny stepped
up and was like, well, tell me about it, then, Draymond,
if you're read that, if you're going to go to

(23:23):
that point, Kenny new right away that that was a
low blow. Yes, And then Draymond had the decision to
make do you stick with it or do you apologize
and make a U turn? Well, he's not going to
make an apology and make a U turn. He stuck
with it, said what he had to say, and moved on.
And after that there wasn't a huge back and forth
where Chuck took offense, but everyone else I felt on

(23:45):
social media took offense to what Draymond Green said because
what Draymond Green said not only was a classless monci,
it was factually incorrect. When you look at Charles Barkley's
tenure with the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
Immediately when he said that, I was like, first of all,
did you watch Charles Barkley, Like really watch him? Because
I were around the same age Draymond Green and high,
and I have images of my brothers watching Charles Barkley.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
One of my brothers, Gus, Hey, what's up?

Speaker 4 (24:12):
One of his favorite players, if not his favorite player,
was Charles Barkley. And so I didn't have like images
of him or memories of him being bad.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
As a rocket.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
If anything, I just remember him still carrying a team
and being the guy. And that's what's funny about Draymond Green.
Draymond Green talks a lot like he's the guy when
he just was on a team that had the guys,
and kind of, like Austin Rivers pointed out, like you

(24:42):
got very lucky to be in a situation where you're
surrounded by all of these Hall of famers in different ways.
But he tends to speak like he's the guy, And
I don't know if it's ever gonna be something that
can be corrected in his brain because he's not the guy.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
He's not.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
And we don't need to talk about the championships because
everybody knows Charles Barkley didn't win one.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
But let's talk about the All nbas. Let's talk about
the All Stars, Let's talk about the MVP.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Let's just talk about being a guy who's carrying a team,
not a guy who's number four on a team, a
great part of a team, of a dynasty.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
But you are not the guy Charles Barkley. You mentioned
his resume there. Charles Barkley did things that Draymond Green
will never hear of. And the problem that I see
with Draymond and what is happening is because he's saying
these things trying to be he's trying to be. Draymond
is what he's trying to be, and he is now

(25:39):
doing harm to his own reputation in his own career
because I think that a lot of us would appreciate
what Draymond did in his career as a defensive player,
for what he did for a long time in his career,
and say, you know what, that's a heck of a player.
But now when Draymond is taking shots at everyone else,
and to your point, talking about roles that players played

(26:01):
that Draymond could never dream of, it makes me you
and everyone else then say, okay, all right, let's bring
out the fine tune, fine tooth comb, Draymond. Let's look
at your resume. Let's look at what your Warriors have
done since you won that last title in twenty twenty two.
Chucks teams with the Rockets. Was there four years, They
went to the Western Conference finals twice. They got stocked
in and maloned. That's what they did, like they were,

(26:24):
That's who they ran into. Now, the last year didn't
end right. The next year was the third year was
the lockout season, I believe, but the final year of
his career yet didn't pan out. But when you look
at what's going on, that title for the Warriors was
twenty twenty two. We're in twenty twenty six. This team
made it to the playoffs a couple of times, won

(26:44):
a series against the Kings. Then we're ousted from the playoffs.
They only made it to the conference semifinals twice and
were not competitive. Last year. The Timberwolves made quick work
of them after it took everything for them to just
beat a Houston Rockets team in the first round. And
so when Draymond's starts to say those things about Charles Barkley,
separate of all that, it makes us look at Draymond's

(27:05):
career a little bit more, and that's where Draymond is
doing harm.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
You make a good point because it's like the there's
no reason to believe right now that the Warriors are
going to be a competitive team next year. There's no
reason to believe that they're getting older. They don't have
the money, the cap space, the ability to make moves.
And Jimmy Butler is not going to come back. Love Jimmy,
He's not going to come back to start the season.
So you're you're at the end of a career and

(27:29):
it can even get worse than it is right now.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
So it's why come come at Charles this.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Way because it just it did It made no sense,
like you weren't actually proving any points at all.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Jason Stewart said yesterday, you stick at debate debate shows,
but you do love conflict, and there appeared to be
conflict last night between Draymond Green and Charles Barkley, and
it obviously peaud your interest.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
As well conflict, but I think I like discomfort even more.
And this this exchange had plenty of disc You know,
in our business, we see this all the time, right,
Draymond is kind of half in, half out. He's not
done playing, but he wants to do with what we've
been doing for a long time. And we see it
all the time. We watch a show where we listen

(28:15):
to a show and they're being very chummy and they're
giving it to each other and sometimes they give little
blows to each other, and when you enter that space,
you think, well, I could also give them low blows,
because that's what the nature of the show is. And
I think when Draymond said that, he was expecting for
each of the people on that panel to be like,

(28:35):
oh and like give him props for the line, and
it was crickets, because you don't enter our space. We
can give each other crap, but you can't enter our space.
You haven't earned the right to do this. And I think,
draymro that's just one of my issues with this exchange.
And then he goes on like Charles Barkley. I'm old
enough to remember that Charles Barkley had to do like

(28:58):
either jail time or pay a stiff penalty for throwing
a small person out a window. It's like part of
his story. I wish he had done something in this moment, Like,
would anyone have blamed Charles for like throwing a punch
or like at least saying something, you were right? He demurred,
like he kind of let it go. But I think
everybody thought Charles was well within his right to say

(29:21):
something or do something physical in that moment.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
I want to get to Chris Purfett in a second.
But you talk about the Charles Barkley past. It's something
I mentioned earlier on the network that for those that
don't remember, And by the way, Moncy Year saying you're
around the same age as Draymond Green. I looked it up.
Draymond Green was ten. Yeah, and what would have been
the worst series of Charles Barkley's career. Yeah, so when
you're ten years old, I don't think that you can
grasp really what is going on and what is happening

(29:45):
with the player. But Charles Barkley, there was a time
where he was a bad boy in the NBA. He
wasn't liked, he was maybe a bully and had conflicts
with reporters. That obviously is a complete one eighty to
the Charles Barkley that we know now. And that's the
lesson that I think Draymond Green needs to learn it's
right there in front of you, Charles Barkley and Bill

(30:06):
Lambier and everybody's fighting during the eighties. Charles Barkley's getting fined,
Charles Barkley's on commercials saying I'm not a role model,
and now look, book after book everybody wants Charles Barkley.
Draymond Green sticking to the stick of who he is
as a player, as a menace is not going to
go well for him as he furthers along in his career.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Chris, Yeah, I just in addition to that, I think
I think his time on the inside the NBA has
also duld us to just because Charles is such a
self defacing person, I think we forget sometimes how good
he was just period on the court, not just his attitude,
but like Draymond's like chipping at his time in Houston,

(30:48):
and I'm sorry, Draymond, you you kind of wish you
could have an end of a career like Charles Barkley
had even in Houston, Like the how good Chuck was
as then or as the round amount of rebound is
just completely lost in this kind of fight, when the
Draymond jab was just not only mean, but also anachronistic.

(31:09):
This is one of the greatest players who have ever
played the game of basketball, and just because he doesn't
have a ring on his finger does not take away
for how good of a player he was. And I
think that you should flaunt that a little bit more.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
I don't know if I don't know if what you
said made me just think that he didn't hear it
right in the moment, And you're right, did he not
hear it or.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Did he not process it in time? But his reaction, his.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Lack of reaction only benefited Charles Barkley because imagine if
he would have like snapped back, and then it becomes
a bit of a shouting match. Sometimes Charles can get
animated and also say.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Some things that aren't correct because he's trying to defend himself.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
But the fact that he remained so cool, calm and collected,
and I don't know if that was because he didn't
hear it or he just was like I'm shocked he
said that.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Whatever it was, it made him look so much better.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
And like you pointed out Dan, like Draymond, you're talking
to a former bad boy.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
You're talking to.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
A guy who did it before you who had a
better career as Chris and we have pointed out already
and so as everybody else.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
So if he made you look like a mean guy,
that's that's so bad.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, that's so bad.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
He made you look so much worse when he's also
a former bad boy.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I loved Kenny and singing up. I think that at
the point as well, is to Jason's point of you
think you're going to come in here on our show
and do this. You've been welcomed before. We've welcomed you
in and done all of this. I want to play
it again just so you can. You can tell him
Kenny's voice. He's like, oh, okay, what was that like?
Tell us Kenny wasn't doing that to be like, let's

(32:51):
let's rain on Charles Parade. He's calling Draymond out for
something that he thought was ridiculous. Here was the exchange.

Speaker 14 (32:57):
Again, Sports are for young you hope to have a great,
long career, but sports nobody wins.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
When they're thirty seven, thirty eight.

Speaker 15 (33:07):
That you said what you said, I didn't want to
hear if he believes what you're talking.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think the goal is just to
not look like you in the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah,
its ultimately a goal for us, like we don't want
to what does that look like?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
See? Did you see that?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Right there? Kenny knows Charles wasn't listening. Kenny knows Charles
didn't hear it, so he said yes. So Kenny steps
in talk about Friend of the Year, right, like of
stepping up and having your guys back.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
And very simple question, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Elaborate for us?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I want to I want to run this down. Charles
Barkley's career started in the eighty four to eighty five
season rookie year as a rookie, and he's talked about
his rookie time. I believe you know guys like Moses Malone,
doctor j Andrew Tony. You were on that team. That's
a tough team for a young guy to break in to.
And he talks a lot about how those guys had
such an effect on his career. So year number two,

(34:04):
you ready for this? Sixth in the MVP. The next year,
sixth in the MVP, next year, fourth MVP votes next year,
sixth after that, runner up next year, fourth in nineteen
ninety two, twelfth in the MVP in nineteen ninety three,
won it with the Phoenix Suns MVP, finished tenth in
voting in ninety four ninety five, finished sixth as an MVP,
twelfth in voting for the MVP in ninety six, and

(34:26):
then in his first season with the Rockets that We Hate,
got MVP votes with sixteenth at the age of thirty three.
At that point, Draymond Green once was one time, one
time finished seventh in voting for the MVP in the
twenty fifteen twenty sixteen seventy three win season. Again, now,
you wouldn't trade a season of Charles Barkley's for Draymond Green's. Well,

(34:50):
you talk about individual you can hide behind the rings,
which I think Draymond Green is doing, or hiding behind
Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. But nobody here, nobody in
the right mind, would rather have Draymond Green season or
career than Charles Barkley's.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Nobody, not even Kenny the jet.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh no, I loved it, you know it was, and
called him on it. And again I'm not giving credit
to Draymond, but there was no way he was going
to walk that back. Because that's not who he is,
especially what happened off the heels of the Austin Reeves
sort of thing. He's not in the business of doing that.
But at some point, Moncie, he's got to turn it around.

(35:26):
And it's why I said earlier this week that I
think Austin Reeves is going to have a better media
career than Draymond Green, because Austin Rivers again, Gosh, he
did it again. We needed a jar here. We had
the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce, Dollar, Jarren Cavino, and rich
I need to do it here. I think Austin Rivers
is going to have a better media career because right
now Draymond Green isn't getting it. You don't just rain
on everyone's parade, and at some point it's really going

(35:51):
to come to burn him. Last night may have been
that point. Maybe the backlash he receives, he'll recognize it,
but I don't think he's there at that point to
even understand what he really said last night.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
To wrap it up, because I know we're kind of here,
but I was gonna say his initial response when Kenny
the Jet asks him, he takes a like a breath,
like he almost doesn't know how to respond to Kenny.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Can you play it back, Sam, real quick? Listen to
his reaction right away. You're good. No, yeah, you're fine.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's just his he is kind of taken aback by
Kenny the jet responding in such a very subtle way.
It's not aggressive, it's not loud. He just wants to
ask him.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
I think the goal is just to not look like
you in the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah, as utimulated goal
for us, like we don't want to what does that
look like? Did you see it?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Doesn't know what to say initially, and it was like
you said, you had an opportunity to you turn and say,
oh that came out wrong. That's actually not what I meant,
you know what I and said, took a moment, processed
it and said I'm going to double down on my stupid.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
With nothing, with nothing, zero fax with a who he
was ten? He was ten, He was ten at the time.
It's this is kudos to them. I know some people
have not been fans of Barkley in shack kind of
throwing water on the current players. I think that what

(37:27):
Charles was saying last night was true and in the
current players. You now have this divide. You have these
young players and you have these older players. I feel
the older players in the NBA have actually held back
some of the star possibilities we could have because we're
still talking about Lebron, We're still talking about Kevin Durant,
We're still talking about Steph Curry. I've been in the

(37:47):
league a long time, and with them still in the league,
it means we're going to talk about them. But I
just it's Charles was actually sticking up for the young
players in the league for once and understanding what it
takes to win a championship. Draymon took it personally and
then did what he did.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
Jason Stewart, I want to wrap this up with an analogy,
and I know I'm a fifty three year old white guy,
but I this is what this reminds me of. Ten
years ago. There was a famous rap battle between Meek
Mill and Drake, and the consensus was Meek Miller just
destroyed this guy. And then Drake in the same week,

(38:26):
had this like meme from the Hotline Bling video. I
don't know if you remember the meme. Anyways, he was
having a really rough week on social media and just
by consensus people that follow both both brands. I think
Draymond Green is having that kind of week. I think
Austin Rivers completely ruined him in the battle words earlier
and the reaction even though Charles wasn't defensive at all

(38:48):
last night, the reaction by everybody who covers a sport today,
it's almost running like ninety nine to one for Charles.
So I think is that is an add an apt analogy.
Amon Green's having a Drake kind of week.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Sure, thank you because and I didn't realize that Drake
had it twice done to him because the Kendrick Lamar
one that we right, He's always on the ends of
the but I think he can be an easy target.
You know that that Drake can be. But I think
you're right that he And yeah, he came with that
last night because of what happened with Austin Rivers.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Absolutely absolutely in the show, he still had the fastball.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Draymond Green uniting basketball fans everywhere who would have.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Thought, yeah, she's manci Vellano's, I'm Dan Bayer, Jason Stewart's
here as his Iowa Sam. You heard from Chris Purfed
hanging out on a Thursday, as Cavino and Rich are vacationing,
not together. Rich and Danny kind of are again place
same place, maybe not the same island, but they're at
the same place, and Cavino is just far far away.

(39:51):
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Speaker 1 (41:14):
Welcome in. It is Coveno and Rich. The guys are
on their last day of vacation. That also means monsy.

Speaker 14 (41:20):
It is a.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Friday Friday day. Yeah in near Bow or Isaac. But
that's okay, thanks, Okay. In there, I didn't have Isaac's mike.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, my mouth was filled with the free pizza you
gave us.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
That's true. Still, every mile is two and I'm done eating.
It's everywhere it's everywhere. Welcome in. We are everywhere on
your local affiliate, on the iHeart app, and on YouTube.
Right now, Isaac bow Iowa, Sam Monsey and me, let's
lock it in on a Friday, Moncey, You and I
have been in for Coveno and Rich all week long,

(41:56):
all week as the guys are on vacation again, Danny
G and Rich picking the exact same vacation spot, not
the exact same hotel, but the exact same area.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
How cute.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I wonder if they're gonna be on the same flight back.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
When they do, you think they'll acknowledge each other. They're
just gonna be like, let's walk each other, not yeah,
I'll see you back in La.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
If you saw one of us four on vacation, I'm
not saying not saying pick favorites, but would you acknowledge?
How would you? How would you do it? Because there
would have been an If Rich sees Danny at the bar,
I'm thinking Rich goes up to him and it's like
Danny G. Yeah, hey man, we're just headed over to

(42:39):
the pool.

Speaker 8 (42:40):
Why you know, come join?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Did you grab the kid? Your wife?

Speaker 8 (42:44):
Come out over, Let's go have a good time.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, and I think if Danny g saw Rich, he'd
be like, let's go the other way, you know, like
like Danny would just want to keep it low key.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, it would be like we're gonna go We're gonna
go out this.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Way for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
No.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
If I saw you at a bar or like at
a hotel, I would send you a drink and.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Then you'd be like, who sends me a drink? I
don't even drink, And then I'd.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Wait from you.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I'd wave at you from afar. That's what I would do.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
That's all you wouldn't I would.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Send you a drink. You could be like, why someone,
I don't drink, and then i'd wave from far away.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I would I would approach you guys and be like,
fancy seeing you here? Right?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Whoa, what is going on? Oh that's great? All right, guys,
have a great vacation. I'll see you later and we'll
see you back in that's right the States. Yes, that's
what it'll be. We would go. I would acknowledge, I
would accept, and then I would break.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
I would acknowledge from afar.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
You would send you don't even get that close.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
No, no, buy you a drink from Afar and then wait,
those three guys too, Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Send him a drink. Hey, thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
So that's what Danny, G and Rich are dealing with
are going to have to deal with if they bump
into each other on their vacation locale. They'll be back
on Monday. We are here today. We've been here all week,
and we've been having some fun on social media. Some
people like what we say, some people don't like what
we say. Some people liked what Charles Barkley said other
people's other people liked what Draymond Green said. It's been

(44:07):
a topic of conversation. You can see the clip on Facebook,
you can see it on x you can see it
on TikTok, you can see it on Instagram, all of
those places, and there is quite the conversation still going
on from what happened the other night on Inside the
NBA when Draymond Green said this to Charles Barklay.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
Sports are for young people.

Speaker 14 (44:26):
You hope to have a great, long career, but sports
nobody wins.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
When they're thirty seven, thirty eight.

Speaker 15 (44:33):
That you said what you said, I didn't want to
hear if he believes what you're talking yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
I mean, I think the goal is just to not
look like you in the Houston Rockets uniform. Yeah, it's
ultimately the goal for us, like we don't want to
What does that look like?

Speaker 15 (44:49):
Did you see it?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm just asking I saw it now to recap I
saw it. Charles didn't hear Draymond being disrespectful, Kenny Smith
try to step up for him. Draymond is like, I'm
not going to walk it back and said what he said,
and we knew Charles really didn't hear him because he
just said yeah. But I think Chuck then heard the

(45:12):
comments and Chuck was able to respond. He was on
Dan Patrick earlier today. This is what Charles Barkley had
to say, and in response to what Draymond said to
him on the air the other night and inside the NBA.

Speaker 16 (45:24):
Hey man, I never punched down. Draymond's a good player.
We're not on the same level. So I can hear,
but I don't have to respond to every time somebody
say something about me. Hey this, Draymond's a really good player.
He's had a hell of a career, but we're not
on the same level.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Yes, it's true. Yeah, did he say that twice? Or
did we just play it twice?

Speaker 8 (45:45):
Well?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
That was it was. It seemed like he said the
same exact thing sort of. You know, yeah, I think that.
I think it's difficult now for Chuck to respond, and
I'll say it this way. I in a way, I
believe him. Manzi. There's there's no win in Charles now
saying something because I think you, me and so many

(46:09):
of us and Kenny Smith took to Charles's defense, so
him saying something right now doesn't carry a lot of weight.
He was also on set with Draymond the rest of
the night. And while you wouldn't say, hey, here we
are coming back from the half from San Antonio, it's
by the way, Draymond, you said something to me in
the like that would have been awkward, that wouldn't have

(46:31):
followed the script. I think Chuck's like, I'm going to
be a company player, But I also believe him when
he says I'm not going to punch down and that
Draymond isn't the player. And Draymond didn't have to go
through the things that Charles did as Charles was a
perennial MVP candidate every year. So just him saying I'm
not going to punch down is enough for Charles Barkley
in this situation.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Everything he said was perfect by saying I'm not going
to punch down as saying this is low hanging fruit
for me to attack this man, and.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
He didn't have to because you said it.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Everybody else seems to be on Barkley's side. Everyone seems
to agree that Draymond was out of line, and we
said this, pointed this out yesterday without trying. One bully
made the other old bully look so bad, like they're
both bad boys. But Draymond alone made himself look so

(47:20):
bad because Barkley had such a nonchalant or whether it
was that he didn't hear or he was like brass, whatever,
his lack of response in that moment made Draymond look
even worse.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
So you didn't have to do anything.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Where everybody else is speaking on behalf of Charles, that
must be nice.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
You want to know how I knew Draymond was so wrong?
Is I've never heard anyone in the sports lexicon say
I don't want to look like Barkley in a Rocket's uniform.
That part right, We've never heard that, But we've heard
that from other athletes. I don't want to be Emmitt
Smith in a Cardinals uniform. Ement Smith actually almost had
a thousand yards in the sea in the he played

(48:00):
two seas in the Arizona. One of them, I think
he had like nine hundred and thirty yards rushing. But
even on the Cowboy documentaries, we saw Emmitt didn't even
want to be a Cardinal, Like at that point we
talked about Johnny Unitis in a Chargers uniform, Joe Namath
in a Rams uniform, Jerry Rice in a Seahawks uniform,
like those are things that people don't want to see,

(48:21):
that they just didn't want to see. We have never
though said I don't want to I don't want to
be like Charles Barkley in a Houston Rockets uniform. That
was never said, That was never uttered. And it also
as as you kind of step back and move away
from the situation and we just talk about their roles
in TV and Charles has been such a fixture on
our screens for a couple of decades. Now, when you

(48:44):
see what Draymond tried to do, you realize that Chuck
wasn't doing that to other players. So when we if
you're a fan, of Kevin Durant, you're a fan of
Lebron James, the current stars in the NBA that have
been around for a while. If Chuck is being critical
of you, he's not doing what Draymond's doing. And I
feel that some of the NBA players felt that maybe
he was, maybe he was taking shots being personal, but

(49:07):
I don't think that was the case. If you want
to see how it gets personal, that's what Draymond did
and Chuck had never done that to anybody. Oh, I
think over the last twenty.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Years, Yeah, I think the criticism with Chuck or Shock
and sometimes just like everybody from inside the NBA, was
that they just they were too harsh on the sport,
too harsh on the product, you know, like they kept
wanting to say it wasn't good compared to how it.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Was back in their day.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
And I agree because I feel like when Charles or Shock,
because those are the big guys, you know, Kenny, the
jettis is saying it from a different perspective. When they
critique the big guys, they're critiquing them as their lack
of maybe physicality in today's day and age. But you're right,
it was never like a direct attack or a personal
attack like yeah, or trying to embarrass someone, because I

(49:54):
feel like that's what Draymond in that moment, Like it's
like I don't want to hurt your feelings are embarrassing,
but nobody wants to be you at that point, like
that you were trying to embarrass him in that moment,
pretending that you weren't, but it was like No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Think Shaq or Charles or any of those guys have
done something like that.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
The critique has been that they just they just you know,
talk negatively on the product itself too much.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Bo Benson, you heard, I mean you've edited this audio.
Are you satisfied with what Charles said in response to
Draymond earlier today on DP show, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (50:27):
I feel like he could have been meaner if he
wanted to. Like Sam and I were talking about this
in here, there was never a point at all with
the Warriors where you felt they won a title because
Draymond Green that once was there. Like he's a good
defensive player. I struggle to say he's a good leader
because all he's ever done is drive guys away or
you know, punch guys in practice. I do think that
this is going to kind of be the generational divide though,

(50:50):
because I think they're gonna be kids that think, well,
Draymond has four rings and Chuck doesn't have any. They
never saw Chuck play, so he is the better player.
But like anyone that saw Charles Barkley play, they know
he's better player.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think that's an interesting comment too, because it is
all about ring culture. Now, that's that's all that it is,
and to think that, honestly, I think Draymond's had a
great career in the NBA and for all of his
Defensive Player of the Year and his All Defensive Team
accolades and what he's done, it's been a really good career.

(51:21):
And we said this Manzi earlier in the week. The unfortunate,
the unfortunate downfall or casualty to Draymond's comments is now
we look at his career with a more focused eye,
with a more discerning eye, that we're starting to pick
apart his career. And that's too bad because now we

(51:41):
are saying things and it's fair of well, he did
get to play with Steph Curry and Clay Thompson the
whole time. Look at the supporting gas. He got to
play with Steve Kerr, but Draymond brings it on himself.
Raymond brings it on himself, and he says, Steve Curdin'
draw plays up to me, you know, for me. So
it would maybe benefit Draymond if Draymond would stop saying
these things about other players, because it's putting him under
the microscope and his career, which was a great NBA career,

(52:06):
and now we're the ones that are starting to poke
Coles in it because it doesn't seem that he wants
to play by the rules. I think that's a very
unfortunate circumstance to what's gone on in these world wards,
not only with Charles Barkley, but also with what he
said about Steve Kerr.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Twenty nineteen was the year that Steph heard it broke
his hand right, so he missed majority of the season.
That was twenty nineteen twenty twenty, I believe, and I
just wanted to see because that would.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Be a time where where maybe Draymond had.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
The opportunity to be the guy because Steph.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Curry went down.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
And if I'm looking at this correctly, oh, they were
fifteen and fifty that year.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, well that was if it was twenty nineteen twenty twenty,
this COVID year.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Yeah, so twenty nineteen into twenty twenty, not twenty twenty
into twenty twenty one.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Okay, so I think it was not it was the
year prior.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
To twenty nineteen into twenty twenty was the COVID year.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Was the year COVID? Okay, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
But does it matter, like to your point, if Steph's
not there, if Steph's not playing and Steph has been
out and they were without Klay Thompson, yeah, and it
wasn't like they were having great success until Klay Thompson
came back from all of his injuries. Steph was being
Steph and then they did win the title in twenty
twenty two. So it came back and had that run.
But it had to bring everybody together, not just two

(53:22):
of them and not just one of them. And again
this is us now hiling on Draymond because he had
no regard for anybody else's career. In all of this,
I think it's a great lesson and I don't think
that you would see you Donnis Haslam or Durknovitski or
Blake Griffin or Kremlin Anthony or Tracy Grady, Tracy McGrady
do that on their pregame shows or their postgame shows

(53:45):
like they had. It is a different atmosphere and inside
the NBA. But I don't think of any of the
current or the new school guys that we see in
these crews are going to go down that road. And
so this is also you unique in that aspect where
I think that they're able to learn a lesson. But
I don't think Dirk Novitsky has any desire to go

(54:05):
and tear down anybody else's career. I don't think he
wants to go. And you know, e Donnis Haslam is
not going to sit there and vocals and what Blake
Griffin did or didn't do or vice versa. And it's
just a different I don't say it's a different era
because those players are all in the same era, just
like Draymond is and Charles Barkley's from a different era.
But it's about a TV show as well, and so

(54:28):
it's a different era in broadcasting in that way that
Draymond Green's gonna, you know, have to learn and these
other shows now won't ever make those mistakes.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
It's just like the prime guys, right, those are the
guys you're mentioning. They're operating like if they're on a team.
Now we're on the same team and the inside the
NBA guys are on a team. And Draymond comes in
sometimes and sometimes I actually don't mind Draymond Green being
part of the broadcast. I sometimes think he says really

(54:58):
great stuff. But in that moment, it was just like,
you're not being part of the team. We asked you
to come join us, we invited you to be part
of the team, and you came out one of our own.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Like it just it was bad from top to bottom.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, imagine, let's just say, you know, Isaac goes out yesterday,
Chris purfets in there. You know, Chris Purfet's going to
take a shot. We're not having it like that.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
We're not.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, that's not what this is about.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's not it's not it's not what we do. And
we can rib each other here, but I'm not going
to get personal and take shots at Monty or take
shots at bow or take shots at Sam. And like
there's and and that's what Draymond did. Like if you're
sitting in your car right now, think of your co workers, like,
are you going to really take personal shots at them
in front of millions of people?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Millions of people just to see that when they join us.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
That's the funny thing is the only people that I
see defending Draymond are the ring culture protectors in Golden
State Warrior fans that still feel that, you know, he
represents their team and he hasn't repri he had to them,
great with with some of his actions. Again, great player,
but all of this he's brought on himself to make
us pick apart his career and all Charles Barkley has

(56:09):
to say is I don't punch down or different players
and a story.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Yeah, good on Charles, Good on, Charles.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, when it's gonna happen the next time they get together,
and then we'll be like, like, there's there's not going
to be a fallout. Draymond's going to be back on
in set.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I think so too. I think so.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I think we said this earlier in the week, like
Charles wouldn't want him fired, Charles wouldn't want him off
the set. Charles can handle himself, and until to his
point he's like, you know, what does that mean? I
just don't think he heard him the first time.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And I think Charles may say things off air that
we want to hear to dram on sure, right, do
you want to read all these comments about you in
a dumb.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
You look to look at this. That's all he used
to do.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
I would just constantly send him what people are saying.
I would just send him pictures like what this person said,
Like what this person?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
That's what I would be doing.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
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(57:14):
I don't think we have to defend Charles Barkley. Chuck
was a terror, and he absolutely was.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
He was. He was a bully.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, And yesterday we relisted all the seasons that Chuck
received MVP votes.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
There was too many, Yes, there were pretty much assume
all of them.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
There were a lot. She's Monty Bellaos, I'm Dan Byer
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