August 7, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they discuss Hard Knocks and the NFL merging with ESPN and what the two have in common. Dan and Monse share what a sports team could provide to get them to stay after a sporting event to watch. Dan and Monse share their concerns about the Dodgers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Trust me, you're gonna want to stick with us for
two hours even though CNR aren't here. You want to
know why I know this in the fiber of my
being Monty, because we're gonna talk about something that nobody
is talking about. Welcome in Happy Thursday here on Fox
Sports Radio. Yes, even Dan Patrick is saying, I don't
(00:41):
know if people care about this or not. We're gonna
tell you why you should care about this and why
what Dan Patrick was saying is absolutely spot on, and
why it's already been happening in your NFL world and
you didn't even know it. Wow, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean, that was a great tease. I'm into I'm
into it. I can't wait for here.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You gotta stay for two year. So does Jason Stewart. Yeah,
hanging out with us today. Hello, everybody, Iowa. Sam is here, Yeah,
he's not on Cavino and Rich Duty because the guys
are just off today. Cavino Birthday week here on Fox
Sports Radio. So Iowa was Sam's here and Isaac Low
and Crown is at the news desk giving us the
latest and our uh you not with APP. That's Ryan
(01:23):
Bershinger in the back. That's right, Yeah, yeah, you know me.
We're down with APP. Our associate producer Paul Ryan Bershinger
also in the studio. The topic that nobody is talking about,
that we have to be talking about is Hard Knocks
in the Buffalo Bills. Do we It has been amazing, Manzi,
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because the NFL machine usually turns out information promos, hype
everything that they can do to hype you up for
the training camp version of Hard Knocks, and this year
was very different. It was very different, and it ties
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into a topic of conversation that is taking place over
the last forty eight hours with the partnership with ESPN
and the NFL network now and ESPN taking over the
NFL network with the league having a stake in ESPN,
and I mentioned Dan Patrick earlier and Dan Patrick has
brought it up. We're going to hear what Dan had
to say from a show earlier today because some took
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offense to what he is saying. But what Dan Patrick
is saying is correct. And what Dan Patrick is saying
is how you cover the NFL now is going to
be different. If one of your biggest entities is now
in bed with that other entity, that's the way it is.
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And if you don't believe me, look at the way
that Hard Knocks has been portrayed. Now. HBO doesn't air
any games, but HBO has been the home of Hard Knocks,
home of Hard Knocks in season for one great summer
last year, the home of Hard Knocks off season. That
was amazing television with the New York Giants, and it
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actually gave us too much that we didn't even have
won this past year because teams weren't willing to do it.
But there is no doubt that Hard Knocks has been
watered down. And I believe that the NFL likes it
that way. I don't think the viewers do, but I
believe that the NFL likes it that way. And now
what you have seen in the most recent episode of
Hard Knocks, which, by my account, no one yesterday Manzi said,
(03:32):
did you watch Hard Knocks last night?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No, Did you see the viral clip that was circulating
on social media yesterday about Hard Knocks?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
No?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I did not.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No you didn't because there was nothing. There was nothing
about it at all. And so, in a roundabout way,
this is the point that I get to when I
start the show. This is the NFL that you are
looking at. It's not the NFL that we had twenty
years ago, when Hard Knocks was a full review of
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what it's like to go through training camp. It's now
dressed up and wrapping paper and bows and ribbons and
the whole deal, trying to get you to fall in
love with this beautiful game of football. And we all
know that that is not the NFL. But that's what
the NFL wants to portray. So when you hear this conversation,
when you hear Dan Patrick saying what he's got to
(04:22):
be saying, it was on full display on Tuesday Night's
episode of Hard Knocks that no one thought was important
enough to talk about. The next day, You've said.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
A lot here. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I feel that there is Hard Knocks here, Hard Knocks there,
Hard Knocks everywhere. I forgot about this new season of
Hard Knocks. Like you said, the advertisement was not there.
I had heard of it completely forgot about it. Haven't
watched it. But I just feel like I have access
to this already. I can watch quarterback, I can watch receiver.
There's just so much content that if I'm going to
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tune in, you better give me something juicy that I
can't get unless I want Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
What did I miss?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You missed?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Give me give me like one or two things?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
What I mean for Davious White going to an ice
cream shop trying to get a Sunday named after himself.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Let me tell you don't care.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Next you missed Dion Dawkins drifting in his car with
his kids.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Really don't care about that one.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Did anything football happen on Hard Knocks about the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Didn't you talk about James Cook?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Hey? Did not?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Okay, So we've got ice cream and we've got drifting
to cover a Buffalo Bill's team that went pretty down
to the wires against in Jim Yes, against the Kansas
City Chiefs. And that's what you're showing me, so I
didn't miss anything. That's why they didn't advertise it, because
they're like, hey, don't tell anybody to watch it, because
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once people watch this show, they're gonna start talking about
how bad it is and what a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
By the way, you're right, I did go a little long.
Jay Drews agrees with you, tweets in yea more monzy.
Good luck getting a word in today. Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna step back a little.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I was fired up. And by the way, by the way,
we're on a bit of a delay, so Jay only
heard half of me before he complained already, Sorry about that, Jay,
But you're right about the James Cook thing. We talked
so much about Micah Parsons and so much about Terry McLaurin,
specifically MICHAEH. Parsons as somewhat of Terry McLaurin. And you
have a Buffalo Bill's holdout that Brandon Bean told the
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local radio station told WGR and Buffalo that they didn't
know that he was going to do the sit in,
if you will, until a few hours before their actual
workout on Sunday at the stadium, and so Tuesday night's
episode at the Stadium or of the Family Day, of
the Fan Day, that the practice that they had there
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had zero, a big fat zero about James Cook and
his holdout in right now. And I think that's that's negligence.
And that's exactly what Dan Patrick is talking about. And
so while ESPN can say what they want to, you know, say,
and Don Van Not can say what he wants about
investigative journalist, HBO even being watered down and they're not
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broadcasting actual games with the National Football League, HBO is
not gonna have it features super Bowl on ABC and ESPN,
those things aren't happening, and you're getting a watered down version.
What's going to happen as this continues with this partnership
with the NFL now having a stake in that network.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I don't know if the word is negligence, because negligence
implies that you missed an opportunity and you should have
taken advantage. You weren't prepared for a moment, you did
not prepare for that. This is I think on purpose.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You're right, yes, So that's.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Why I don't know if it's negligence.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I think this is this is on purpose the whole
watering down it is because I think teams don't want
to expose the real stuff that we want to see,
because this whole thing about ice cream and drifting, It's like, Okay,
is this a movie or am I watching a team
prepare for the upcoming season, a team that is looking
to get to the super Bowl and actually win it? Like,
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that's what I want to see if I'm tuning in
to watch the Buffalo Bills, and I'm not a fan
of the Bills, but you have to bring in football
fans for a football show on a team that's not
your team.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
So what is this?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yes, you're right, it's awesome for Buffalo bill.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Yeah, if you're a part of the mafia, you probably
love it. But if you're just a football fan, you
have to bring me in with the football stories and
James Cook has to have been mentioned, and the fact
that it's not negligence. They just don't want to show that.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It was glaring to me because it starts out and
the episode starts out with Josh Allen, as it probably should.
He's the face of it, where he talks about and
he has this exchange with a reporter and they talk
a little bit about his wedding. You know this this
past offseason, and Josh Allen has this pleasant exchange with
the camera producer and then you know, then the donner,
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you know, after he says, you know, like all right,
let's go, you know, like and that's the start of it,
and it gets you all hyped up, and then there's
nothing of actual excitement or drama. The first round pick
Maxwell Harriston got injured. They touched on that a little bit.
They did a tour of the new stadium.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think, yes, yes, there was that. That's in the guys,
like how you put together your dorm room at camp.
But there was nothing of this wide receiver isn't cutting it,
this linebacker is not where he needs to be. There
was Joey Bosa was a little bit like they showed
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a couple of Joey Bosa clips. He's new to the team.
Ajpanessa went to the Everglades and caught a python this offseason.
All of that stuff that you probably could have seen
on social media that isn't relevant to the actual training
camp of what is going on, And I just feel
that it's it's representative to what people are worried about
with this new partnership. Is I grew up in a
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time manzi this In the nineteen eighties, they would come
out with things like NFL films would have football follies.
I know Isaac Longkhan remembers and Jason Stewart. It was
forty minutes of bloopers of balls hitting guys in the helmet,
guys falling down backwards.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
Really well done, really well done too.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And it was kind of a laugh at yourself moment.
It was actually one of the better things of my
childhood growing up. And now the NFL isn't even able
to laugh at itself. Like you can't have the good,
you can't have the bad. You have to have this
prepackaged sort of meal that is just delivered right to
your door and how they want it. And that's that's
what dan Patrick is getting to. I want to bring
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on Jason Stewart in a second. But Dan Patrick did
defend his name earlier today after Don Van Nadas said
that he does investigative journalism for ESPN and didn't take
kindly to dan Patrick's response to him. Here's DP talking
about this whole ESPN NFL deal.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The NFL was buying ten percent of ESPN. There's a
merger between NFL Network and ESPN, and the point that
I made and want to continue to there is a
conflict of interest. I think we can all agree to
that now if you don't care about it, and maybe
you don't, but for me, I worry about that. But
(11:11):
you know, this is the old school in me that
you know with ESPN and having been there eighteen years,
and I mentioned that, you know, are they going to
have journalism? Are they going to cover the NFL? And
I didn't mention any names, but there was one person
at the mothership, Don ven Natta, who is a senior
writer who's been on the show. I think last time
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he was on five years ago to talk about a
deep dive he did on the Decision with Lebron James,
and he's been on the show a couple of times.
He's a very good journalist.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
He took it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Personally when I was saying I don't know if they
did a deep dive on the NFL Players Association mess
and once again, this is live radio and I'm saying
I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Know, and this is Dan I think trying to play nice,
but I think what Dan originally said in the comments
a couple of days ago that made don van Out
so mad was that from this point on, what is
going to happen? So they may have done investigative pieces before,
like they did with the NFLPA and how it affects,
we want to know what is happened, what is going
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to happen now that you have this partnership together.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Right, because when money is involved in a partnership like
this is involved, there's a clear conflict of interest. And
what Dan's asking is is a great question. Are you
still covering the NFL or are you just now representing
the NFL because it's very different. Are you going to
be giving me pr statements now or are you actually
covering the team whether it's good or bad. And it's
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gonna be hard to believe that they are going to
keep everything the same, It's not it.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Things are gonna change.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm surprised ESPN wants to do this because I feel
like people tune into ESPN knowing that they cover kind
of eight umbrella of sports, and I wonder if this
is going to discourage people from trusting them in other sports,
not just NFL, Like, if you're doing this, then how
can I really rely on you for the other ones.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I want to get to Jason Stewart in his thought.
I'll just say this. I think what the NFL sees
is how ESPN handles the NBA. Sure, and I feel
that times they do it with kid gloves that that's
what they want for their product. And so now with
this partnership, and it's the NFL having their ownership stake,
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ESPN getting more access to what is the most popular
sport by far in this country. I think that's why
they do this deal. But you could just look at
how ESPN covers the NBA and hopefully like there's NBA
live shows going on today that talk about the WNBA,
but they'll just make up NBA topics that are out
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of nowhere because you need to talk about the league.
I think that's probably appealing to the NFL that you
would have more of an NFL angle with that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean clearly not listening to fans though, because fans
hate how the NBA covers how the NBA is covered
by ESPN. They're clearly not paying attention because TNT NBA
on TNT literally everyone talked about it for days of
it not existing anymore. To cover the NBA because ABC
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sucks when covering the NBA.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
There's too many commercials. They don't say anything.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
They literally say one line, Steven A say's two lies
and then they go to commercial.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
It's a waste of time. And so that's what they're
wanting ESPN to do with their NFL product.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, they don't talk about the drama, that's for sure,
just like they didn't talk about drama and hard knocks
with the Buffalo Bills, the loan, big story that is
prevalent throughout the NFL, they didn't touch it on Tuesday Night.
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So yesterday you told me that the Bills training camp
had started on HBO and it was what Tuesday, Monday
or Tuesday Night? And my reaction was, how did I
not know this? Because all I do when I of
the Morning is just combed through content and something would
have dinged my radar. I had no idea that it aired,
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and I had to watch it and it is such
a snorefest it's almost laughable. It's like they went out
of their way to be uninteresting, Like it's almost like
they're going through the motions. They're not trying to provide
interesting content. They're just going through the motions, maybe to
keep the relationship with the NFL, I don't know. And
how it ties into the ESPN thing, is this when
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we watch CNN Now or NBC News or anything like this,
all of us watch if you're smart with this prism
of I'm getting my news in a fairly biased way,
and I need to decipher for myself if I believe
it or I trust in it. And I think that
moving forward, any news that is presented to us by
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ESPN needs to be seen through that prism now and
you need to kind of do your due diligence. ESPN
used to always be that that source that you go
through for news, and I don't think that it is anymore.
And I think that they're making it pretty loud and clear.
They're like, we're gonna kind of we're going to compromise
our news department by getting in bed with these major
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sports entities, including the wrestling this week. So yeah, I
think that we've just seen the end of journalism in
ESPN as we know it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And there used to be such a wide ranging area
within ESPN of that, and like a lot of places,
there are cuts and cuts happen and stuff gets dwindled,
and now it's gotten dwindled to a point again, who
knows that they're gonna need investigative journalists like Don van
Not you know, in the future if this is what
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the league wants. And so that's where it's it's nothing personal,
and so you know, Dan Patrick's defending his name. Don
Van Not is protecting his name and doing what he does.
But all of that doesn't necessarily matter if the NFL
has their way, and they've had their way within Hard
knocks into Jason's point, Now we expect it to happen
throughout ESPN And to Montsi's point, what do we get
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as a viewer?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Are we just suckers in all of this?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (17:12):
We suffer? Yeah, we suffer from all this?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes? Am I a sucker? Like we didn't We stopped
HBO Max I think in April, just like we're not
watching it as much, there's not as many shows, so
we ended it. Guess who signed up for HBO Max
this week? This sucker right here because I felt like
I needed to watch Hard Not sure. Now I gotta
get everything that we need to watch in HBO Max
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done in the next four weeks, so I can then
cancel it again because I don't know there's gonna be
anything after that that I want to watch. And I
already feel like buyer's remorse already for buying it this
week and having nothing happen in episode one.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
It's so disappointing because again a team that went down
to the wire AFC Championship against the Chiefs, like, there's
so much there, There's so much there right now in
training him for that team. We're not covering a team
that is kind of figuring it out right, like you said,
going through the motions, because there are teams figuring it out.
The Bills are not figuring it out, they're fine tuning it.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
That's what I want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think that your point, and I disagree with you
here is we want to see teams trying to figure
it out. We want to see that struggle. We want
to see the ups and downs. And in fact, the
NFL previously had criteria for teams that needed to be
met where because there was a point within the last
five years where we didn't know if we were going
to have hard knocks because teams weren't willing to do it.
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But the NFL felt it was such an important vehicle
for their brand that you had criteria like, if you
had a first year head coach, you didn't have to
be on it. If you made the playoffs the year before,
you didn't have to be on it. In fact, there
was a list of about four or five teams heading
into this offseason. The Seahawks were one of them because
I'm like, oh, that would be awesome. I'm a Seahawks fan.
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I love to see what they've got beyond the scenes.
The Seahawks fell in the criteria of possible hard knocks
candidates because they didn't make the playoffs last year. Mike
McDonald's now in his second years, is head coach, and
they fit the They flit the script, not the team
that made it to the AFC Championship Game. The Bills
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previously were exempt, so if the Bills get the NOD,
two things had to happen. The Bills had to say
we'll do it, but we need certain things to not covered,
and the NFL says, well, honestly, people are sick of
the Chiefs right now. Nobody's gonna jump on the Eagles
bandwagon because they're in the NFC East, Like like you're
entrenched with those teams. Who's our darling of the NFL right.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Now, the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Ah, it's the Buffalo Bills. And in fact, I actually
think this could backfire in a way if the NFL
is making us bend over backwards to be interested in
the Buffalo Bills. And that's why so I think that
it flies in the face of what hard knocks is.
We want to find teams figuring it out. We don't
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want The Bills aren't cruise control, Like they've got their plan,
they've got everything set up, so there isn't that conflict.
So the NFL not providing that and saying like, oh,
the Bills, let's just let the Bills do it because
they're awesome and they're one of the more popular teams
and we'll get ratings that way. That doesn't really, you know,
tell you on how winning is made in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Totally. I hear what you're saying. I think we're getting
to the same thing.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I just said it differently because I agree they are
in cruise control, but they're fine tuning in order to win.
They're they're getting down to the They're not you know,
the Panthers right now.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
They aren't they they're not the Browns right now.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That is interesting. You're right, that stuff is interesting. But
for the Bills, I just feel like, if you're gonna
show me, I want to I want to know what
is it that's changing this year from last year? Because
you want to win it this year? What is different
this year for the Bills? That's what I wish they
were showing. But it sounds like they're just having a
good time.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, I'd rather see Bryce Young and try to take
that leap that find out guys that you know are
going to and not going to make the team. Plus,
the Bills are so veteran leyden Moncey, you know, you
have a you have a fifty three man roster. Forty
of those pieces are just set. Last night, they didn't
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highlight any person that wasn't going to automatically be on
the team, So there wasn't necessarily was Josh Allen again,
it was Tredevius White, who the veteran comes back after
a couple of years with the away with the Rams
and Ravens. You had as it mentioned, aj Epanessa, like
that's who was there wasn't like seventh round pick out
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of so and so is trying to make the team.
It's just very contrived and disappointing. But it ties all
back to what this topic is this week and why
why someone like Dan Patrick is worried about how we
view the NFL. Because there's old guys like me, Moncey,
and old guys like Jason and I won't call Isaac cold,
but he's right there with us in the banning circle
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that loved what the NFL was in the eighties and nineties.
And it's just different than what it was now because
it's prepackaged.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Yes, and it really is.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
It's not authentic, and now you're taking away this as
they have been for the past few years. I think
it gets us frustrated.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
This is the future and I'll be there Tuesday night,
when episode two of a Trading Camp with the Buffalo
Bills premieres on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Tell me all about it.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
She's Moncey Blagos, I'm Dan Byer. Find her at Moncey Bellagios.
You can find me at Dan Buyer on Fox. Oh,
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
One thing our listeners don't know is that you did
sign up for Max this week for the Bills, and
by Bills, I mean uh Buffalo Bills and Bill Joel,
and I will take credit for this. I know The
Bills was a snorefest, but at least I spoiled the
best part of the Billy Joel documentary that you were.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Looking for you No, we were talking during the break.
Jason comes in and is like, did you watch the
Billy Joel documentary? This is within the past week. I said, no,
we don't have We don't have HBO Max anymore. And
I go, I'm not a huge Billy Joel fan anyway.
And then his way of selling it was telling Sam
and I one of the most like surprising parts of
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the documentary and then he thought it was common knowledge.
But I'm like, well, why would it be common knowledge
if I told you that I'm not even a really
big Billy Joel fan, Like, how would I know that?
So it completely ruined it.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
So spoiler, So are you gonna watch it or not?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I will because my wife will probably want to watch it.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Would you tell your wife the spoiler?
Speaker 9 (23:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I did not. There you go, Okay, I'm a good
husband in that one.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
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Speaker 7 (23:47):
What's Up Everybody? Happy Thursday? Thank you for tuning in
to Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
The guys are off, so you get me Monty Belanos
and Dan Byer.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Filling in a little on air B and B PAT.
This past week or like was it last week.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
The Milwaukee Brewers did a little some special for their
fans an alumni.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
It was on the twenty fifth, and they were celebrating
twenty five years of the ballpark, which was previously Miller
Park now American Family Field. They played an earlier game
on a Friday, which allowed fans to stick around later,
so they're not there at ten ten thirty at night
to watch an alumni home run derby.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
I mean that sounds great.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It does sound great. You brought a lot of old
faces from the past, and it sure seemed to be
No pun intended quite a hit.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Yeah, he's waiting to say that so much.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Wrote that down.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
No, No, I didn't. It just happens. Yeah, it just
happens like that. Trust me, as a punster in a
college like Iowa, Sam, it's really something you don't write
down puns. They just come to you. Right, it's improvised. Yeah, yeah,
I know some people have it. I know it is
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people don't.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I don't have it. I would have to write it
down and make sure I don't forget to use it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, the Brewers have. It's in a way where other
teams are actually calling them being like this is amazing,
this is like how do you what did you guys do?
Is there more ways to do it? And what I think?
I kind of think this is much ado about nothing.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was a special day, right, honoring twenty five years.
You had an earlier start time. It allowed them to
bring everybody back and you can't do that next week.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's like one of those questions where it's like, no
matter how I answer, I'm gonna make you sound stupid, mean,
like how did you do that?
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Well?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
It was an anniversary of our ballpark, and so we
celebrated them. Yes, Like when people come to Dodger Stadium
and they're like, can I use.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Where's the restroom? Right there it says women, giant sign
says it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
A club for women. It's not.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
And it's like, no matter how you kind of make
the person sound stupid. No, they obviously that was a special,
one off thing. I think there are things teams can
do that would make me stick around, and that is
definitely one of them.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
But that's a special thing.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
That's mac that's trying to maximize your dollars as a
franchise totally, which I don't necessarily understand, Mancy, because you're
trying to get us out of the ballpark quicker, not
that day, well just not that day. Maybe they're trying
to get you off the television a little quicker. But
isn't that what the pitch clock is all about. It's
to not have these guests, to speed up the game,
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to not have these lulls, to get things moving through.
And I know when the pitch clock first came about,
even Cavino and Rich talked about it. Guys were complaining, Hey,
I got three hours. I don't want to be out
of the ballpark in two hours and ten minutes. Like
I want to be there and enjoy it, but I
also don't think people want to be there for four
or five hours. And that's why I'm curious that other
teams are trying to pick the Brewer's brain, trying to
(26:52):
do that more often, but.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
It breaks up your evening. You feel like you're not
doing the same thing for four or five hours because
you're right when the pitch clock came in. I was
not super for it because going to a game was
a casual fun, not oh, I have to hurry up
and get a drink or go get a hot dog
because now it's already inning five.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
When before I was like, it's only the second inning.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
We've got time, you guys, relax, We're good now. It
feels like a sped up process when you're there.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Now, when you're at home watching the game, it's the
greatest thing because it does go by a lot faster.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I am for it now, even in person, but it
did speed up that process. I feel like when you
do have an event, a special event like that, it
breaks it up, like you don't feel like you're doing
the same thing for four or five hours.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
And this is I think a one off, like.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You couldn't have success like this if you did it
even once a month.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
I think you have to do it every few months,
something special like this to get the fans to stay.
Dodger Stadium does fireworks shows, drone shows. I have said
it I could not care less about fireworks. I'm not
sticking around for fireworks.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I may stick around for a drone show if, like Shakira,
music is a part of it.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Can I say what you told me during the break?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
What did I say? Hold on a second, what did
I say?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wait?
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Wait? Should should you say? What am I saying? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, you better keep those concession stands open?
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Oh no, no, yes you better.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I better have an alcoholic beverage absolutely, and a snack.
If you're telling me to stick around and you're not
offering me another beer, I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And I think that's that's the whole point of it.
I think that what was a neat one off teams.
I think that that was the reason that the home
run derby was the reason that people came Because as
part of this this article that was passed along to
us by Jason Stewart, the the option came up, or
an idea, a brainstorming point was other teams could do this,
(28:46):
and then you could compete against each other. You could
have the Brewers alumni taking on the Cubs alumni in
a home run derby contest. See Manti's looking at this,
does this appeal to you at all?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
James, I, I'm interested.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
I'd be interested.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Keon Broxton won it for the Brewers, not Prince Fielder,
not Ryan Brawn, Keon Broxton who played three years for him.
So there's also the point of it's not like Barry
Bonds is going to show up in San Francisco and
lead Team Giants to a victory over Matt Kemp and
other Dodger players of ten to twenty years ago.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I will say, let's hypothetically say, Jason, see if you
agree with me on here on this one. Let's say
this is at Dodger Stadium and they're doing some event,
and let's even say it is fireworks, but it was
only half can stay and the other half couldn't. Right,
Let's just say it's a bit more of an exclusive
event after and then I get to avoid traffic.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I'm staying.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
No, No, the traffic thing at Dodger Stadium is a.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Whole horrible That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
But it is a factor in your consideration.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yes, it would. If I stay for something, then they'd
be like going to clear it. I'd be out. I'm
sticking around, no problem.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And I think that when you throw in the alcohol part,
if concessions are staying open, I guess I guess that
changes that widens the things that would entice you. But
I was just thinking, because I think about this all
the time. I'm never gonna be the guy that stays
for fireworks. But I think Dodger Stadium has also had
movie night they where you get to sit on the
field and watch a movie after the game. Again, that's
(30:27):
more I think if you're with your kids, totally different thing.
But I'm not going to watch a movie on on
the grass at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
This home run derby probably wouldn't entice me either, but
I have beers will get me there.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I guess I think it was a complete one off,
and I think it was the twenty five years to
see everybody get together, just like you're not going to
a family reunion every weekend. You see them once every
ten years, and then you catch up at that point
and then you all go your second way, separate ways
and move on. It's also a deal, like I think
we're looking at it from the ass BC of how
(31:01):
do you get fans to stay longer when these events
are more of how do you get fans into the ballpark?
That's the original, Like, that's the basis of it. You
just had Hello Kiddy Night, right, that was that was
absolutely bonkers at Dodger.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Stadium in a week of busy giveaways.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Then there's also like four different show Hey Bobblehead nights, right,
So that's to try to get fans to the to
the ballpark. This alumni home run derby, it makes you
stay longer, but it's also well, let's stick around, we'll
be able to see the alumni home run derby. It's
trying to get you into the ballpark. I just don't
know how many times you can go back to that.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Well, what about a concert? Dan?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
If I said a Dodger game on Wednesday night, you'd
probably like, probably not. But if I said, but Toto
is pointing, does that get you to stay?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It helps? And minor league hockey teams do this. I
think minor league baseball teams do this sort of thing.
NBA teams actually have people performing at halftime, yeah yeah,
and stay afterwards, so something to that effect. I don't
know where Toto would actually play though, because then you
would you just wheel in a stage from center field.
(32:09):
You could do that and then everybody gather around.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
No, you would stay in your seats. They wouldn't like
they would on the field.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Well then what's the point right then?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, I'm if there was a concert, I would just
show up in the fourth inning and then stay for
the concert.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
And then it feels like I'm not there as long.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
If you shortened the game to six innings and then
I had a concert like perfect. Guess Ryan bursching Or
and I were talking about how much we love the
Little League because I'm like, six innings amazing. Now he
doesn't mind the nine. He's good with the nine, but
six amazing.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Oh hang on, guys, I got to read a quick promo. Okay,
all right, here we.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Go this week, God Hard, not josh yall It and
his offensive lineman go miniature golfing. Sean McDermott has a
dentist appointment and team mascot Billy Buffalo performs at a
(33:09):
ninety year old's birthday party. It's a next Tuesday on
Hard Knocks.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I am so I am so tuning in for that
dentist appointment.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
That was incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I bet you a great job, Isaac. It would only
be a cleaning, because that's what episode was. One was
great job, Isaac, great job, great job. Hit him up
at Isaac Lowankron. Find her at Monte Vellanos. You can
find me at Dan Buyer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here,
as is Iowa Sam. One championship fan base. Yes, they
(33:45):
have a championship within the last twelve years. Is complaining,
They're complaining, bunch of cry babies. This Camino would say,
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Speaker 9 (34:06):
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Speaker 4 (34:07):
Rich Here on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Belaanio. So
I'm Dan Byer in for the guys. This is today's
Cavino's birthday. It's his birthday week. It's the ninth. Okay,
it's Saturday coming up.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
It's his week. He gets the whole week.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He does get the whole week. Jason Stewart's here, as
is Iowa Sam and Isaac Lowenkron at the news desk.
People loving his NFL film's preview of Hard Knocks. We'll
get to that in a second, but first Monzi, it's
time for our tire rack play of the day. Here's
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
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Speaker 7 (35:17):
Yeah, it's Dan Brewers man.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
So you and I iron for Covino and Rich tomorrow
and for the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're in for four
hours tomorrow, So we're gonna have to talk about how
the Brewers came to be because it is a unique
story and I think one that would get people behind them. Yes,
I'm not sure how many casual fans are turning for
the Dodgers to go back to back. I don't think many.
(35:42):
But right now, even the Dodger fans aren't happy with
their organization. It's except Joan. They love.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Thing ever. He's the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
I every single time he does it again, I just
can't believe how good he is Dan, how good he
is in the moment he delivers. Every single time there
is a giveaway. Yesterday it was the World Series O
Tawny giveaway, and he hits a home run thirty nine
on the season, his thousandth career hit. He also pitches
(36:13):
four such good innings eight strikeouts, season high for him.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And then the Dodgers lose. It's like poor guy is
back in Anaheim. That poor poor guy is back in Anaheim.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You've got the second best record in the National I
don't care. Excuse me, thus, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
You lose to the Saint Louis Cardinals, who basically have
a half game above the Marlins for the final Wald
card spot. Cardinals and Marlins are not teams that the
Dodgers should be losing too.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well, the Marlins playing good ball. No, they only play.
I called it a month ago, look out for the
Marlins because they were screwing me in our survivor pool.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
I know they be all the good teams they do.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
They're kind of in the think of it. They're probably
not going to catch anybody in the NL.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
But they're not even trying. Marlins. But this isn't how
they won their World Series without trying.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
World Series without trying, So maybe this is the Marlins
here again.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
No one actually show hate producing and no one else
doing their part for the Dodgers at least right now.
I think is what all other baseball fans love.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
Because do you think they like good point?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I do you think they like to see the spectacle that, yes,
But then if it comes with the Dodgers loss, I
think it's a win win.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
I think you hit it right on the head.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
People want to see a Tani he did great and
then the Dodgers lose. It's a win win for a
lot of people besides us Dodger fans.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Thank you, Donald, President, Donald.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Trump, thank you so much, Jason. Another wasted effort by Otani.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Uh remember I remember at the trade deadline, right there
are those people that said that our trade deadline is
people coming off the il right, Yes, that has worked
for like a two and a half hour window two
nights ago when Monthly got four hits, had two home runs.
Everything else has just been continued misery since the trade deadline.
(38:09):
Something's broken with this team, something's broken with Mookie.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
I don't know. I don't know what's going on. It's frustrating.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Do they call you Munseys, you know, like at at
Doctor Stadium, like as a little joke.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I hear Muncy and I'm like who, and like no, no,
no Moncy. I was like, oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It's Monsy, not Monsey. Yes, Manzi that's what they should
call him. Max Monzimancy to the Max. She's Manzi. I'm
Dan Byer. We are in for Cavino and Rich here
on Fox Sports Radio coming up next. We know the
future of a future star in the NFL, at least
(38:46):
we think we do.
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 4 (00:19):
Don't do it, don't change the dial, don't do it.
Trust me, you're gonna want to stick with us for
two hours even though CNR aren't here. You want to
know why I know this in the fiber of my
being Monty, because we're gonna talk about something that nobody
is talking about. Welcome in Happy Thursday here on Fox
Sports Radio. Yes, even Dan Patrick is saying, I don't
(00:41):
know if people care about this or not. We're gonna
tell you why you should care about this and why
what Dan Patrick was saying is absolutely spot on, and
why it's already been happening in your NFL world and
you didn't even know it. Wow, that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
I mean, that was a great tease. I'm into I'm
into it. I can't wait for here.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You gotta stay for two year. So does Jason Stewart. Yeah,
hanging out with us today. Hello, everybody, Iowa. Sam is here, Yeah,
he's not on Cavino and Rich Duty because the guys
are just off today. Cavino Birthday week here on Fox
Sports Radio. So Iowa was Sam's here and Isaac Low
and Crown is at the news desk giving us the
latest and our uh you not with APP. That's Ryan
(01:23):
Bershinger in the back. That's right, Yeah, yeah, you know me.
We're down with APP. Our associate producer Paul Ryan Bershinger
also in the studio. The topic that nobody is talking about,
that we have to be talking about is Hard Knocks
in the Buffalo Bills. Do we It has been amazing, Manzi,
(01:44):
because the NFL machine usually turns out information promos, hype
everything that they can do to hype you up for
the training camp version of Hard Knocks, and this year
was very different. It was very different, and it ties
(02:05):
into a topic of conversation that is taking place over
the last forty eight hours with the partnership with ESPN
and the NFL network now and ESPN taking over the
NFL network with the league having a stake in ESPN,
and I mentioned Dan Patrick earlier and Dan Patrick has
brought it up. We're going to hear what Dan had
to say from a show earlier today because some took
(02:28):
offense to what he is saying. But what Dan Patrick
is saying is correct. And what Dan Patrick is saying
is how you cover the NFL now is going to
be different. If one of your biggest entities is now
in bed with that other entity, that's the way it is.
(02:49):
And if you don't believe me, look at the way
that Hard Knocks has been portrayed. Now. HBO doesn't air
any games, but HBO has been the home of Hard Knocks,
home of Hard Knocks in season for one great summer
last year, the home of Hard Knocks off season. That
was amazing television with the New York Giants, and it
(03:10):
actually gave us too much that we didn't even have
won this past year because teams weren't willing to do it.
But there is no doubt that Hard Knocks has been
watered down. And I believe that the NFL likes it
that way. I don't think the viewers do, but I
believe that the NFL likes it that way. And now
what you have seen in the most recent episode of
Hard Knocks, which, by my account, no one yesterday Manzi said,
(03:32):
did you watch Hard Knocks last night?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No, Did you see the viral clip that was circulating
on social media yesterday about Hard Knocks?
Speaker 6 (03:38):
No?
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I did not.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
No you didn't because there was nothing. There was nothing
about it at all. And so, in a roundabout way,
this is the point that I get to when I
start the show. This is the NFL that you are
looking at. It's not the NFL that we had twenty
years ago, when Hard Knocks was a full review of
(04:00):
what it's like to go through training camp. It's now
dressed up and wrapping paper and bows and ribbons and
the whole deal, trying to get you to fall in
love with this beautiful game of football. And we all
know that that is not the NFL. But that's what
the NFL wants to portray. So when you hear this conversation,
when you hear Dan Patrick saying what he's got to
(04:22):
be saying, it was on full display on Tuesday Night's
episode of Hard Knocks that no one thought was important
enough to talk about. The next day, You've said.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
A lot here. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I feel that there is Hard Knocks here, Hard Knocks there,
Hard Knocks everywhere. I forgot about this new season of
Hard Knocks. Like you said, the advertisement was not there.
I had heard of it completely forgot about it. Haven't
watched it. But I just feel like I have access
to this already. I can watch quarterback, I can watch receiver.
There's just so much content that if I'm going to
(04:55):
tune in, you better give me something juicy that I
can't get unless I want Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
What did I miss?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You missed?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Give me give me like one or two things?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
What I mean for Davious White going to an ice
cream shop trying to get a Sunday named after himself.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Let me tell you don't care.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Next you missed Dion Dawkins drifting in his car with
his kids.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Really don't care about that one.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Did anything football happen on Hard Knocks about the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Didn't you talk about James Cook?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
They?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Hey? Did not?
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Okay, So we've got ice cream and we've got drifting
to cover a Buffalo Bill's team that went pretty down
to the wires against in Jim Yes, against the Kansas
City Chiefs. And that's what you're showing me, so I
didn't miss anything. That's why they didn't advertise it, because
they're like, hey, don't tell anybody to watch it, because
(05:44):
once people watch this show, they're gonna start talking about
how bad it is and what a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
By the way, you're right, I did go a little long.
Jay Drews agrees with you, tweets in yea more monzy.
Good luck getting a word in today. Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna step back a little.
Speaker 7 (05:58):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I was fired up. And by the way, by the way,
we're on a bit of a delay, so Jay only
heard half of me before he complained already, Sorry about that, Jay,
But you're right about the James Cook thing. We talked
so much about Micah Parsons and so much about Terry McLaurin,
specifically MICHAEH. Parsons as somewhat of Terry McLaurin. And you
have a Buffalo Bill's holdout that Brandon Bean told the
(06:20):
local radio station told WGR and Buffalo that they didn't
know that he was going to do the sit in,
if you will, until a few hours before their actual
workout on Sunday at the stadium, and so Tuesday night's
episode at the Stadium or of the Family Day, of
the Fan Day, that the practice that they had there
(06:41):
had zero, a big fat zero about James Cook and
his holdout in right now. And I think that's that's negligence.
And that's exactly what Dan Patrick is talking about. And
so while ESPN can say what they want to, you know, say,
and Don Van Not can say what he wants about
investigative journalist, HBO even being watered down and they're not
(07:01):
broadcasting actual games with the National Football League, HBO is
not gonna have it features super Bowl on ABC and ESPN,
those things aren't happening, and you're getting a watered down version.
What's going to happen as this continues with this partnership
with the NFL now having a stake in that network.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I don't know if the word is negligence, because negligence
implies that you missed an opportunity and you should have
taken advantage. You weren't prepared for a moment, you did
not prepare for that. This is I think on purpose.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
You're right, yes, So that's.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
Why I don't know if it's negligence.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I think this is this is on purpose the whole
watering down it is because I think teams don't want
to expose the real stuff that we want to see,
because this whole thing about ice cream and drifting, It's like, Okay,
is this a movie or am I watching a team
prepare for the upcoming season, a team that is looking
to get to the super Bowl and actually win it? Like,
(07:55):
that's what I want to see if I'm tuning in
to watch the Buffalo Bills, and I'm not a fan
of the Bills, but you have to bring in football
fans for a football show on a team that's not
your team.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
So what is this?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yes, you're right, it's awesome for Buffalo bill.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
Yeah, if you're a part of the mafia, you probably
love it. But if you're just a football fan, you
have to bring me in with the football stories and
James Cook has to have been mentioned, and the fact
that it's not negligence. They just don't want to show that.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It was glaring to me because it starts out and
the episode starts out with Josh Allen, as it probably should.
He's the face of it, where he talks about and
he has this exchange with a reporter and they talk
a little bit about his wedding. You know this this
past offseason, and Josh Allen has this pleasant exchange with
the camera producer and then you know, then the donner,
(08:51):
you know, after he says, you know, like all right,
let's go, you know, like and that's the start of it,
and it gets you all hyped up, and then there's
nothing of actual excitement or drama. The first round pick
Maxwell Harriston got injured. They touched on that a little bit.
They did a tour of the new stadium.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I think, yes, yes, there was that. That's in the guys,
like how you put together your dorm room at camp.
But there was nothing of this wide receiver isn't cutting it,
this linebacker is not where he needs to be. There
was Joey Bosa was a little bit like they showed
(09:29):
a couple of Joey Bosa clips. He's new to the team.
Ajpanessa went to the Everglades and caught a python this offseason.
All of that stuff that you probably could have seen
on social media that isn't relevant to the actual training
camp of what is going on, And I just feel
that it's it's representative to what people are worried about
with this new partnership. Is I grew up in a
(09:52):
time manzi this In the nineteen eighties, they would come
out with things like NFL films would have football follies.
I know Isaac Longkhan remembers and Jason Stewart. It was
forty minutes of bloopers of balls hitting guys in the helmet,
guys falling down backwards.
Speaker 9 (10:11):
Really well done, really well done too.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And it was kind of a laugh at yourself moment.
It was actually one of the better things of my
childhood growing up. And now the NFL isn't even able
to laugh at itself. Like you can't have the good,
you can't have the bad. You have to have this
prepackaged sort of meal that is just delivered right to
your door and how they want it. And that's that's
what dan Patrick is getting to. I want to bring
(10:35):
on Jason Stewart in a second. But Dan Patrick did
defend his name earlier today after Don Van Nadas said
that he does investigative journalism for ESPN and didn't take
kindly to dan Patrick's response to him. Here's DP talking
about this whole ESPN NFL deal.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
The NFL was buying ten percent of ESPN. There's a
merger between NFL Network and ESPN, and the point that
I made and want to continue to there is a
conflict of interest. I think we can all agree to
that now if you don't care about it, and maybe
you don't, but for me, I worry about that. But
(11:11):
you know, this is the old school in me that
you know with ESPN and having been there eighteen years,
and I mentioned that, you know, are they going to
have journalism? Are they going to cover the NFL? And
I didn't mention any names, but there was one person
at the mothership, Don ven Natta, who is a senior
writer who's been on the show. I think last time
(11:34):
he was on five years ago to talk about a
deep dive he did on the Decision with Lebron James,
and he's been on the show a couple of times.
He's a very good journalist.
Speaker 9 (11:43):
He took it.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Personally when I was saying I don't know if they
did a deep dive on the NFL Players Association mess
and once again, this is live radio and I'm saying
I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Know, and this is Dan I think trying to play nice,
but I think what Dan originally said in the comments
a couple of days ago that made don van Out
so mad was that from this point on, what is
going to happen? So they may have done investigative pieces before,
like they did with the NFLPA and how it affects,
we want to know what is happened, what is going
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to happen now that you have this partnership together.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Right, because when money is involved in a partnership like
this is involved, there's a clear conflict of interest. And
what Dan's asking is is a great question. Are you
still covering the NFL or are you just now representing
the NFL because it's very different. Are you going to
be giving me pr statements now or are you actually
covering the team whether it's good or bad. And it's
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gonna be hard to believe that they are going to
keep everything the same, It's not it.
Speaker 7 (12:50):
Things are gonna change.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I'm surprised ESPN wants to do this because I feel
like people tune into ESPN knowing that they cover kind
of eight umbrella of sports, and I wonder if this
is going to discourage people from trusting them in other sports,
not just NFL, Like, if you're doing this, then how
can I really rely on you for the other ones.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I want to get to Jason Stewart in his thought.
I'll just say this. I think what the NFL sees
is how ESPN handles the NBA. Sure, and I feel
that times they do it with kid gloves that that's
what they want for their product. And so now with
this partnership, and it's the NFL having their ownership stake,
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ESPN getting more access to what is the most popular
sport by far in this country. I think that's why
they do this deal. But you could just look at
how ESPN covers the NBA and hopefully like there's NBA
live shows going on today that talk about the WNBA,
but they'll just make up NBA topics that are out
(13:51):
of nowhere because you need to talk about the league.
I think that's probably appealing to the NFL that you
would have more of an NFL angle with that.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I mean clearly not listening to fans though, because fans
hate how the NBA covers how the NBA is covered
by ESPN. They're clearly not paying attention because TNT NBA
on TNT literally everyone talked about it for days of
it not existing anymore. To cover the NBA because ABC
(14:19):
sucks when covering the NBA.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
There's too many commercials. They don't say anything.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
They literally say one line, Steven A say's two lies
and then they go to commercial.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
It's a waste of time. And so that's what they're
wanting ESPN to do with their NFL product.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, they don't talk about the drama, that's for sure,
just like they didn't talk about drama and hard knocks
with the Buffalo Bills, the loan, big story that is
prevalent throughout the NFL, they didn't touch it on Tuesday Night.
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So yesterday you told me that the Bills training camp
had started on HBO and it was what Tuesday, Monday
or Tuesday Night? And my reaction was, how did I
not know this? Because all I do when I of
the Morning is just combed through content and something would
have dinged my radar. I had no idea that it aired,
(15:08):
and I had to watch it and it is such
a snorefest it's almost laughable. It's like they went out
of their way to be uninteresting, Like it's almost like
they're going through the motions. They're not trying to provide
interesting content. They're just going through the motions, maybe to
keep the relationship with the NFL, I don't know. And
how it ties into the ESPN thing, is this when
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we watch CNN Now or NBC News or anything like this,
all of us watch if you're smart with this prism
of I'm getting my news in a fairly biased way,
and I need to decipher for myself if I believe
it or I trust in it. And I think that
moving forward, any news that is presented to us by
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ESPN needs to be seen through that prism now and
you need to kind of do your due diligence. ESPN
used to always be that that source that you go
through for news, and I don't think that it is anymore.
And I think that they're making it pretty loud and clear.
They're like, we're gonna kind of we're going to compromise
our news department by getting in bed with these major
(16:15):
sports entities, including the wrestling this week. So yeah, I
think that we've just seen the end of journalism in
ESPN as we know it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And there used to be such a wide ranging area
within ESPN of that, and like a lot of places,
there are cuts and cuts happen and stuff gets dwindled,
and now it's gotten dwindled to a point again, who
knows that they're gonna need investigative journalists like Don van
Not you know, in the future if this is what
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the league wants. And so that's where it's it's nothing personal,
and so you know, Dan Patrick's defending his name. Don
Van Not is protecting his name and doing what he does.
But all of that doesn't necessarily matter if the NFL
has their way, and they've had their way within Hard
knocks into Jason's point, Now we expect it to happen
throughout ESPN And to Montsi's point, what do we get
(17:08):
as a viewer?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Are we just suckers in all of this?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (17:12):
We suffer? Yeah, we suffer from all this?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Yes? Am I a sucker? Like we didn't We stopped
HBO Max I think in April, just like we're not
watching it as much, there's not as many shows, so
we ended it. Guess who signed up for HBO Max
this week? This sucker right here because I felt like
I needed to watch Hard Not sure. Now I gotta
get everything that we need to watch in HBO Max
(17:36):
done in the next four weeks, so I can then
cancel it again because I don't know there's gonna be
anything after that that I want to watch. And I
already feel like buyer's remorse already for buying it this
week and having nothing happen in episode one.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
It's so disappointing because again a team that went down
to the wire AFC Championship against the Chiefs, like, there's
so much there, There's so much there right now in
training him for that team. We're not covering a team
that is kind of figuring it out right, like you said,
going through the motions, because there are teams figuring it out.
The Bills are not figuring it out, they're fine tuning it.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
That's what I want to see.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I think that your point, and I disagree with you
here is we want to see teams trying to figure
it out. We want to see that struggle. We want
to see the ups and downs. And in fact, the
NFL previously had criteria for teams that needed to be
met where because there was a point within the last
five years where we didn't know if we were going
to have hard knocks because teams weren't willing to do it.
(18:31):
But the NFL felt it was such an important vehicle
for their brand that you had criteria like, if you
had a first year head coach, you didn't have to
be on it. If you made the playoffs the year before,
you didn't have to be on it. In fact, there
was a list of about four or five teams heading
into this offseason. The Seahawks were one of them because
I'm like, oh, that would be awesome. I'm a Seahawks fan.
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I love to see what they've got beyond the scenes.
The Seahawks fell in the criteria of possible hard knocks
candidates because they didn't make the playoffs last year. Mike
McDonald's now in his second years, is head coach, and
they fit the They flit the script, not the team
that made it to the AFC Championship Game. The Bills
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previously were exempt, so if the Bills get the NOD,
two things had to happen. The Bills had to say
we'll do it, but we need certain things to not covered,
and the NFL says, well, honestly, people are sick of
the Chiefs right now. Nobody's gonna jump on the Eagles
bandwagon because they're in the NFC East, Like like you're
entrenched with those teams. Who's our darling of the NFL right.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Now, the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Ah, it's the Buffalo Bills. And in fact, I actually
think this could backfire in a way if the NFL
is making us bend over backwards to be interested in
the Buffalo Bills. And that's why so I think that
it flies in the face of what hard knocks is.
We want to find teams figuring it out. We don't
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want The Bills aren't cruise control, Like they've got their plan,
they've got everything set up, so there isn't that conflict.
So the NFL not providing that and saying like, oh,
the Bills, let's just let the Bills do it because
they're awesome and they're one of the more popular teams
and we'll get ratings that way. That doesn't really, you know,
tell you on how winning is made in the NFL.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Totally. I hear what you're saying. I think we're getting
to the same thing.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I just said it differently because I agree they are
in cruise control, but they're fine tuning in order to win.
They're they're getting down to the They're not you know,
the Panthers right now.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
They aren't they they're not the Browns right now.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
That is interesting. You're right, that stuff is interesting. But
for the Bills, I just feel like, if you're gonna
show me, I want to I want to know what
is it that's changing this year from last year? Because
you want to win it this year? What is different
this year for the Bills? That's what I wish they
were showing. But it sounds like they're just having a
good time.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, I'd rather see Bryce Young and try to take
that leap that find out guys that you know are
going to and not going to make the team. Plus,
the Bills are so veteran leyden Moncey, you know, you
have a you have a fifty three man roster. Forty
of those pieces are just set. Last night, they didn't
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highlight any person that wasn't going to automatically be on
the team, So there wasn't necessarily was Josh Allen again,
it was Tredevius White, who the veteran comes back after
a couple of years with the away with the Rams
and Ravens. You had as it mentioned, aj Epanessa, like
that's who was there wasn't like seventh round pick out
(21:39):
of so and so is trying to make the team.
It's just very contrived and disappointing. But it ties all
back to what this topic is this week and why
why someone like Dan Patrick is worried about how we
view the NFL. Because there's old guys like me, Moncey,
and old guys like Jason and I won't call Isaac cold,
but he's right there with us in the banning circle
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that loved what the NFL was in the eighties and nineties.
And it's just different than what it was now because
it's prepackaged.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Yes, and it really is.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
It's not authentic, and now you're taking away this as
they have been for the past few years. I think
it gets us frustrated.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You're not wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
This is the future and I'll be there Tuesday night,
when episode two of a Trading Camp with the Buffalo
Bills premieres on Hard Knocks.
Speaker 7 (22:24):
Tell me all about it.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
She's Moncey Blagos, I'm Dan Byer. Find her at Moncey Bellagios.
You can find me at Dan Buyer on Fox. Oh,
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
One thing our listeners don't know is that you did
sign up for Max this week for the Bills, and
by Bills, I mean uh Buffalo Bills and Bill Joel,
and I will take credit for this. I know The
Bills was a snorefest, but at least I spoiled the
best part of the Billy Joel documentary that you were.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Looking for you No, we were talking during the break.
Jason comes in and is like, did you watch the
Billy Joel documentary? This is within the past week. I said, no,
we don't have We don't have HBO Max anymore. And
I go, I'm not a huge Billy Joel fan anyway.
And then his way of selling it was telling Sam
and I one of the most like surprising parts of
(23:15):
the documentary and then he thought it was common knowledge.
But I'm like, well, why would it be common knowledge
if I told you that I'm not even a really
big Billy Joel fan, Like, how would I know that?
So it completely ruined it.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
So spoiler, So are you gonna watch it or not?
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
I will because my wife will probably want to watch it.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Would you tell your wife the spoiler?
Speaker 9 (23:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I did not. There you go, Okay, I'm a good
husband in that one.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
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Speaker 7 (23:47):
What's Up Everybody? Happy Thursday? Thank you for tuning in
to Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
The guys are off, so you get me Monty Belanos
and Dan Byer.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Filling in a little on air B and B PAT.
This past week or like was it last week.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
The Milwaukee Brewers did a little some special for their
fans an alumni.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
It was on the twenty fifth, and they were celebrating
twenty five years of the ballpark, which was previously Miller
Park now American Family Field. They played an earlier game
on a Friday, which allowed fans to stick around later,
so they're not there at ten ten thirty at night
to watch an alumni home run derby.
Speaker 7 (24:25):
I mean that sounds great.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
It does sound great. You brought a lot of old
faces from the past, and it sure seemed to be
No pun intended quite a hit.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Yeah, he's waiting to say that so much.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Wrote that down.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
No, No, I didn't. It just happens. Yeah, it just
happens like that. Trust me, as a punster in a
college like Iowa, Sam, it's really something you don't write
down puns. They just come to you. Right, it's improvised. Yeah, yeah,
I know some people have it. I know it is
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people don't.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
I don't have it. I would have to write it
down and make sure I don't forget to use it.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Well, the Brewers have. It's in a way where other
teams are actually calling them being like this is amazing,
this is like how do you what did you guys do?
Is there more ways to do it? And what I think?
I kind of think this is much ado about nothing.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It was a special day, right, honoring twenty five years.
You had an earlier start time. It allowed them to
bring everybody back and you can't do that next week.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's like one of those questions where it's like, no
matter how I answer, I'm gonna make you sound stupid, mean,
like how did you do that?
Speaker 10 (25:37):
Well?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
It was an anniversary of our ballpark, and so we
celebrated them. Yes, Like when people come to Dodger Stadium
and they're like, can I use.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Where's the restroom? Right there it says women, giant sign
says it's not.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
A club for women. It's not.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
And it's like, no matter how you kind of make
the person sound stupid. No, they obviously that was a special,
one off thing. I think there are things teams can
do that would make me stick around, and that is
definitely one of them.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
But that's a special thing.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
That's mac that's trying to maximize your dollars as a
franchise totally, which I don't necessarily understand, Mancy, because you're
trying to get us out of the ballpark quicker, not
that day, well just not that day. Maybe they're trying
to get you off the television a little quicker. But
isn't that what the pitch clock is all about. It's
to not have these guests, to speed up the game,
(26:31):
to not have these lulls, to get things moving through.
And I know when the pitch clock first came about,
even Cavino and Rich talked about it. Guys were complaining, Hey,
I got three hours. I don't want to be out
of the ballpark in two hours and ten minutes. Like
I want to be there and enjoy it, but I
also don't think people want to be there for four
or five hours. And that's why I'm curious that other
teams are trying to pick the Brewer's brain, trying to
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do that more often, but.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
It breaks up your evening. You feel like you're not
doing the same thing for four or five hours because
you're right when the pitch clock came in. I was
not super for it because going to a game was
a casual fun, not oh, I have to hurry up
and get a drink or go get a hot dog
because now it's already inning five.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
When before I was like, it's only the second inning.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
We've got time, you guys, relax, We're good now. It
feels like a sped up process when you're there.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Now, when you're at home watching the game, it's the
greatest thing because it does go by a lot faster.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I am for it now, even in person, but it
did speed up that process. I feel like when you
do have an event, a special event like that, it
breaks it up, like you don't feel like you're doing
the same thing for four or five hours.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
And this is I think a one off, like.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You couldn't have success like this if you did it
even once a month.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
I think you have to do it every few months,
something special like this to get the fans to stay.
Dodger Stadium does fireworks shows, drone shows. I have said
it I could not care less about fireworks. I'm not
sticking around for fireworks.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
I may stick around for a drone show if, like Shakira,
music is a part of it.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Can I say what you told me during the break?
Speaker 7 (28:03):
What did I say? Hold on a second, what did
I say?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Wait?
Speaker 7 (28:05):
Wait? Should should you say? What am I saying? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah, you better keep those concession stands open?
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Oh no, no, yes you better.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I better have an alcoholic beverage absolutely, and a snack.
If you're telling me to stick around and you're not
offering me another beer, I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And I think that's that's the whole point of it.
I think that what was a neat one off teams.
I think that that was the reason that the home
run derby was the reason that people came Because as
part of this this article that was passed along to
us by Jason Stewart, the the option came up, or
an idea, a brainstorming point was other teams could do this,
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and then you could compete against each other. You could
have the Brewers alumni taking on the Cubs alumni in
a home run derby contest. See Manti's looking at this,
does this appeal to you at all?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
James, I, I'm interested.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
I'd be interested.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Keon Broxton won it for the Brewers, not Prince Fielder,
not Ryan Brawn, Keon Broxton who played three years for him.
So there's also the point of it's not like Barry
Bonds is going to show up in San Francisco and
lead Team Giants to a victory over Matt Kemp and
other Dodger players of ten to twenty years ago.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I will say, let's hypothetically say, Jason, see if you
agree with me on here on this one. Let's say
this is at Dodger Stadium and they're doing some event,
and let's even say it is fireworks, but it was
only half can stay and the other half couldn't. Right,
Let's just say it's a bit more of an exclusive
event after and then I get to avoid traffic.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I'm staying.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
No, No, the traffic thing at Dodger Stadium is a.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Whole horrible That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
But it is a factor in your consideration.
Speaker 7 (29:58):
Yes, it would. If I stay for something, then they'd
be like going to clear it. I'd be out. I'm
sticking around, no problem.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
And I think that when you throw in the alcohol part,
if concessions are staying open, I guess I guess that
changes that widens the things that would entice you. But
I was just thinking, because I think about this all
the time. I'm never gonna be the guy that stays
for fireworks. But I think Dodger Stadium has also had
movie night they where you get to sit on the
field and watch a movie after the game. Again, that's
(30:27):
more I think if you're with your kids, totally different thing.
But I'm not going to watch a movie on on
the grass at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 9 (30:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
This home run derby probably wouldn't entice me either, but
I have beers will get me there.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I guess I think it was a complete one off,
and I think it was the twenty five years to
see everybody get together, just like you're not going to
a family reunion every weekend. You see them once every
ten years, and then you catch up at that point
and then you all go your second way, separate ways
and move on. It's also a deal, like I think
we're looking at it from the ass BC of how
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do you get fans to stay longer when these events
are more of how do you get fans into the ballpark?
That's the original, Like, that's the basis of it. You
just had Hello Kiddy Night, right, that was that was
absolutely bonkers at Dodger.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Stadium in a week of busy giveaways.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Then there's also like four different show Hey Bobblehead nights, right,
So that's to try to get fans to the to
the ballpark. This alumni home run derby, it makes you
stay longer, but it's also well, let's stick around, we'll
be able to see the alumni home run derby. It's
trying to get you into the ballpark. I just don't
know how many times you can go back to that.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Well, what about a concert? Dan?
Speaker 6 (31:36):
If I said a Dodger game on Wednesday night, you'd
probably like, probably not. But if I said, but Toto
is pointing, does that get you to stay?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
It helps? And minor league hockey teams do this. I
think minor league baseball teams do this sort of thing.
NBA teams actually have people performing at halftime, yeah yeah,
and stay afterwards, so something to that effect. I don't
know where Toto would actually play though, because then you
would you just wheel in a stage from center field.
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You could do that and then everybody gather around.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
No, you would stay in your seats. They wouldn't like
they would on the field.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Well then what's the point right then?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
Yeah, I'm if there was a concert, I would just
show up in the fourth inning and then stay for
the concert.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
And then it feels like I'm not there as long.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
If you shortened the game to six innings and then
I had a concert like perfect. Guess Ryan bursching Or
and I were talking about how much we love the
Little League because I'm like, six innings amazing. Now he
doesn't mind the nine. He's good with the nine, but
six amazing.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Oh hang on, guys, I got to read a quick promo. Okay,
all right, here we.
Speaker 10 (32:46):
Go this week, God Hard, not josh yall It and
his offensive lineman go miniature golfing. Sean McDermott has a
dentist appointment and team mascot Billy Buffalo performs at a
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ninety year old's birthday party. It's a next Tuesday on
Hard Knocks.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I am so I am so tuning in for that
dentist appointment.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
That was incredible.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I bet you a great job, Isaac. It would only
be a cleaning, because that's what episode was. One was
great job, Isaac, great job, great job. Hit him up
at Isaac Lowankron. Find her at Monte Vellanos. You can
find me at Dan Buyer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here,
as is Iowa Sam. One championship fan base. Yes, they
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They're complaining, bunch of cry babies. This Camino would say,
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Speaker 9 (34:06):
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Speaker 4 (34:07):
Rich Here on Fox Sports Radio. She's Monty Belaanio. So
I'm Dan Byer in for the guys. This is today's
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it's Saturday coming up.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
It's his week. He gets the whole week.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
He does get the whole week. Jason Stewart's here, as
is Iowa Sam and Isaac Lowenkron at the news desk.
People loving his NFL film's preview of Hard Knocks. We'll
get to that in a second, but first Monzi, it's
time for our tire rack play of the day. Here's
the pitch, swinging a mess. He struck him out.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Trevor McGill slams the door and the Brewers have won
six in a row. It's a six and zero road
trip for the crew and they are the first team
in Major League Baseball to reach seventy wins. It's the
fastest to seventy wins in franchise history.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
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Speaker 7 (35:17):
Yeah, it's Dan Brewers man.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
So you and I iron for Covino and Rich tomorrow
and for the Doug Gottlieb Show. We're in for four
hours tomorrow, So we're gonna have to talk about how
the Brewers came to be because it is a unique
story and I think one that would get people behind them. Yes,
I'm not sure how many casual fans are turning for
the Dodgers to go back to back. I don't think many.
(35:42):
But right now, even the Dodger fans aren't happy with
their organization. It's except Joan. They love.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Thing ever. He's the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
I every single time he does it again, I just
can't believe how good he is Dan, how good he
is in the moment he delivers. Every single time there
is a giveaway. Yesterday it was the World Series O
Tawny giveaway, and he hits a home run thirty nine
on the season, his thousandth career hit. He also pitches
(36:13):
four such good innings eight strikeouts, season high for him.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And then the Dodgers lose. It's like poor guy is
back in Anaheim. That poor poor guy is back in Anaheim.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You've got the second best record in the National I
don't care. Excuse me, thus, I don't care.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
You lose to the Saint Louis Cardinals, who basically have
a half game above the Marlins for the final Wald
card spot. Cardinals and Marlins are not teams that the
Dodgers should be losing too.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Well, the Marlins playing good ball. No, they only play.
I called it a month ago, look out for the
Marlins because they were screwing me in our survivor pool.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
I know they be all the good teams they do.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
They're kind of in the think of it. They're probably
not going to catch anybody in the NL.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
But they're not even trying. Marlins. But this isn't how
they won their World Series without trying.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
World Series without trying, So maybe this is the Marlins
here again.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
No one actually show hate producing and no one else
doing their part for the Dodgers at least right now.
I think is what all other baseball fans love.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
Because do you think they like good point?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I do you think they like to see the spectacle that, yes,
But then if it comes with the Dodgers loss, I
think it's a win win.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
I think you hit it right on the head.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
People want to see a Tani he did great and
then the Dodgers lose. It's a win win for a
lot of people besides us Dodger fans.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
Thank you, Donald, President, Donald.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Trump, thank you so much, Jason. Another wasted effort by Otani.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Uh remember I remember at the trade deadline, right there
are those people that said that our trade deadline is
people coming off the il right, Yes, that has worked
for like a two and a half hour window two
nights ago when Monthly got four hits, had two home runs.
Everything else has just been continued misery since the trade deadline.
(38:09):
Something's broken with this team, something's broken with Mookie.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
I don't know. I don't know what's going on. It's frustrating.
Speaker 7 (38:15):
It's frustrating.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Do they call you Munseys, you know, like at at
Doctor Stadium, like as a little joke.
Speaker 7 (38:20):
I hear Muncy and I'm like who, and like no, no,
no Moncy. I was like, oh my god, Okay.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
It's Monsy, not Monsey. Yes, Manzi that's what they should
call him. Max Monzimancy to the Max. She's Manzi. I'm
Dan Byer. We are in for Cavino and Rich here
on Fox Sports Radio coming up next. We know the
future of a future star in the NFL, at least
(38:46):
we think we do.
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