March 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres, in for Covino and Rich, react to the latest in NFL free agency and explain why the writing is on the wall for Russell Wilson. The guys give a thumbs up to the NBA and Tyrese Halliburton, but a big thumbs down to Shaq after last night!
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throughout the show at various times. North Carolina getting a
win there on the bubble. Not that a win against
Notre Dame helps your cause, but if you don't win
that game, any hope of getting to the NCAA tournament
would be lost. That is very accurate. Busy day.
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North Carolina's probably the headliner, but you know, we're watching
a Texas Vandy game. Texas has to win some games
at the SEC tournament. Vandy felt like they were in.
We don't need to nerd out on bracketology at this
exact moment, but this would be a third straight loss,
which would make things interesting. So fun time a year
for college hoops and fun time a year to your point,
really across sportsmanu factor in the NFL news, Bursch was
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just at some spring training stuff.
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It's a really fun time year. The greatest sports day
on the calendar of all three sixty five will be
determined coming up in an hour from now, so in
sixty minutes, we're gonna want to hear from you. There's
three hundred and sixty five days, sometimes three hundred and
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the absolute best sports day. Aaron Torres has one in mind.
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We're gonna find out what that is in an hour.
But you heard Isaac Loowin Kron at the news desk,
who at the bottom of the hour will let us
know what's happening in some of these conference tournament games.
Give us the headlines of the day, and there are
a lot of headlines in the National Football League, and
the headline right now is Russell Wilson is going to
meet with the Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants.
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And I think on the surface that sounds like it's
great news for Russell Wilson. Erin Torres that two teams
are interested in Russell Wilson's services, But when you look
at the list of free agents in the NFL and
you look at those that have signed in those that haven't,
there are far more players that have signed and found
teams than haven't. We're actually in the new league year,
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so that two day window where you can sign where
it's legal, but it's not really official yet. That's over.
Everything is now fair game, it's good to go. And
Russell Wilson still hasn't found a home and to me,
that is not a good sign for Russell Wilson. And
when you also see that Aaron Rodgers' name is out
there at this point, I think it's an even worse
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sign for Russell Wilson. I know that Russell Wilson's gonna
have meetings later this week with Cleveland and the New
York Giants, but in my heart of hearts, I think
it's over for Russell Wilson. I think it is done
for Russell Wilson as a starting quarterback in the National
Football League. And I'm not even sure of his value
as a backup considering some of the other circumstances we
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see in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, and I know this is a little bit off
topic to start, but you covered his career for so
long as a Seahawks fan, you probably paid closer attention
than most. I was gonna ask you, like, if there
is no starting spot or if this is the last
year where he even has an opportunity to earn a
starting spot, is this just a guy that immediately transfers
or translation into TV or to the private business world.
(04:03):
Because to your point, yes, maybe he will get one
more shot this year, because there's way more teams than
quarterbacks that are good enough to be starting in this league.
But I don't see, you know, he certainly isn't like
a Chase Daniel type that's gonna stay till whatever mentor
younger guys and stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So I was just curious. I mean, I don't think
he's gonna be with an internet startup or a new
web based hot Twitter handle that breaks down film. I
don't think it's gonna be. I don't think Aaron Torres,
you're gonna expand and bring Russell Wilson in for newfound
NFL coverage. I don't think that's going to happen at all.
Not filling in on the weekends on Fox Sports, not
filling in on the weekends. And you want to know why,
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you want to know why he's not gonna be on
CBS and he's not gonna be on Fox or shouldn't
be because he can't criticize anyone interesting, to criticize any
anything and say that like the everything that we hear
out of Russell Wilson's mouth, I don't know if we
really believe. So if you put him on a TV
set at some point in his career, I'm not sure
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if that's even gonna work for him because I don't
know if he can be even critical, and if he was,
if you'd actually believe what he was saying, because he
seems to be so positive and seems to put on
this front when speaking to anybody.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So when James Brown throws the highlight to him and
the Jags are down forty one to ten, JAG's country,
Let's ride.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's that's kind of him. It's gonna be if there's
a pick six, he'd be like a tough, tough job
for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You know, thought he had the guy, but sometimes the
DV just makes a better play. It's nothing you can
do about it, but that's what that's what you would get.
That would be like a big shout out to Trevor Lawrence.
I love the guy. That's what the analyst, the analysis
would be. If Russell Wilson, you're wanted to be in TV.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
You're a Seahawks fan who's watched way too many Russell
Wilson press conferences in your life, Oh, over.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And over and over. But the whole free agency process
and what has gone on over the last couple of
years is the writing that's on the wall for Russell Wilson.
When you look at free agency right now and we
see the spots that have been filled, We're going to
just start with his most recent spot. This is why
Russell Wilson's career is likely over. The narrative out of
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Pittsburgh throughout this offseason has been, we're not going to
bring it back both quarterbacks. We're going to bring back one,
or we could bring back one, we could bring back none,
but we I'll tell you one thing we're not going
to do. We're not going to bring back two. They
were not going to bring back both Justin Fields and
Russell Wilson. Well, Justin Fields is no longer available. He
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is not able to go back to the Pittsburgh Steelers
because he signed a twenty million dollars a year contract
with the New York Jets. So the narrative out of
Pittsburgh is we're not going to bring both back, but
we may bring one back. We've bet in communication with
Justin Fields people. We've been in communication with Russell Wilson's people.
Justin Fields is now out of the equation. Guess what,
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Russell Wilson is still there. You just trade it for
DK Metcalf who is familiar with Russell Wilson totally. So
why isn't a deal done yet? Well, they would rather
speak to Aaron Rodgers, who's forty one again, still trying
to come back from an Achilles' injury, in a place
where you have no idea if he'd even work in
the locker room and how much gas he actually has
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left in the tank. Russell Wilson's, you know, five years
younger than Aaron Rodgers. You would think that would be
in his wheelhouse, but it's not. And you want to
talk about locker room. I think there's just as much
risk of putting Aaron Rodgers in a locker room than
there is with Russell Wilson. I'm not sure on how
much Russell Wilson fits in a locker room, especially now
being in his mid thirties. It's one thing when you're
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a young guy and still trying to do your thing.
Everybody else is your peers, but there's not a lot
of thirty something's in that locker room as well. But yeah,
the Pittsburgh Steelers may feel it be more valuable to
have Aaron Rodgers who plays better right now than Russell
Wilson actually plays. That tells you something. And the Steelers
had a full look for an entire year at Russell
Wilson and not bringing him back. That's just one of
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the reasons why I think it's done for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Well, that last part to me is the most important,
right because you know, first of all, the on the
field when lost records speaks for herself, starts four to zero,
loses six of his final eight what is it five
in a row to end the regular season? But what
was the narrative when things were actually going good for
Russell Wilson, Oh, this is Mike Tomlin's hand pick Successor
what did Mike Tomlin say when Russell Wilson started out hot?
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This is why they pay me the big bucks, you know.
And the one thing that was kind of hammered home
again and again and again and again during last season
through the ups and of course the eventual downs, was
that the two of them, Mike Tomlin and Russell Wilson,
had a great working relationship. And so to me, that
speaks to if the one guy in the league that
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you seemingly had the trust of, because we know Sean
Payton didn't trust him. We know that Pete Carroll and
trust him. If now Mike Tomlin is saying, either I've
seen enough on film where you're not the guy, or
I've lost trust in you as a dude. When I
was putting it out there for two straight months, how
much I liked it, how much we got along, we
met privately, That's the part that would concern me, because
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Mike Tomlin very publicly appeared to be in his corner
when things were going well for Russell.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Will And think of the caliber of names that you
just mentioned. Not only did Pete Carroll pass on Russell Wilson,
He's actually passed on him twice. The first time they
allowed him to leave Seattle to get that deal with
the Denver Broncos and they turned it over to Gino Smith.
Pete Carroll now is another decision with the Raiders. Do
I sign Russell Wilson or do I trade for Gino
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Smith and pay him more than I would pay Russell Wilson.
Guess what I'm going to go with Gino Smith on
this one. I'm not going to go on Russell Wilson.
So that's twice Pete Carroll has turned away from Russell
Wilson and Sean Payton. We know how that went. And
like him or not, Sean Payton showed his worth with
the Denver Broncos this past season with the growth of
Bonnicks the staff that he puts together and makes it
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one of the better defenses in the National Football League.
The right is on the wall. I would even say
Aaron in his meeting with the Cleveland Browns. I don't
know if it's a courtesy meeting, but this team just
traded for Kenny Pickett and sits there at number two,
where we think they have a really decent shot at
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drafting cam Ward as their starting quarterback. If he doesn't
go number one to Tennessee, it could be an option there.
So what's the point of even meeting with Russell Wilson.
If you've brought in Kenny Pickett, you're likely to take
a quarterback not convinced, but that could be a possible ability.
And you still have Deshaun Watson sitting there in that
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locker like this is there doesn't seem to make any
sense or any room for him to even go to Cleveland.
I don't know if he's just getting a courtesy interview,
but there doesn't even seem to be a possible fit
for him to go to Cleveland. And if it's between
Kenny Pickett, let's say Deshaun Watson is not going to
come back in twenty twenty five at all, and they
can wash the hands and do whatever with Deshaun Watson,
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and you don't take cam Ward second overall, you take
Travis Hunter or someone else. You're gonna have a battle
between Kenny Pickett and Russell Wilson. Who do you really
want to win that quarterback battle? You probably want Kenny Pickett,
the younger quarterback, the one who's maybe getting a second chance,
not the guy that's been around the league. And toss
now between super Bowl winning head coaches for the past
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five seasons.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I'll say this, you know one, I would never
push our audience to one of our competitors. But we
have four screens on in studio right now, and one
of them has a topic bar that says are the
Browns done adding quarterbacks this offseason? So we're not the
only ones that don't really know what this meeting is about.
Right now, I think everybody that cares about football, cares
about the NFL is asking the same question. And I
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think the other thing too, Dan, is you know you
asked in theory who you would want to win a
Kenny Pickett versus a Russell Wilson quarterback derby if you will.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I mean, here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
If you're the Browns and assuming it's not just a
throwaway season, is the issue becomes. You know, Kenny Pickett,
I know, was in the division left and was at
least with Philly, you know, kind of in that winning culture.
Russell Wilson was just in this division. We just saw
it after a couple games when people figured things out.
He was not very good, had no answers for Baltimore,
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struggled late, struggled against the best, you know, in the
biggest games of his season. So now you're going to
in theory, if you are the Browns, bring him in,
and to your point, the best case scenario, I guess
would be that he wins the starting quarterback job. And
we kind of saw what he looked like in meaningful
late December early January AFC North Games.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The Indianapolis Colts would rather pay Daniel Jones fourteen million
dollars to compete with Anthony Richardson. Russell Wilson was viewed
by the Indianapolis Colts. This is what this is what
they're telling you. They viewed him like they viewed Gardner
Minshew and Joe Flacco, not as a yes, as a
backup quarterback in case something went wrong, because that was
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the planning with Anthony richards in these last two years.
Let's bring in a veteran to back them up and
if something goes wrong, the veteran could come in or
if Richardson gets hurt. I never understood the Flacco or
Gardner Minshew scenarios with the Colts because they were just
completely different than who Anthony Richardson was. But now the
Colts say we want competition. They would rather pay Daniel
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Jones fourteen million dollars a year to see if he
can push Anthony Richardson. Russell Wilson is not getting fourteen
million dollars a year and it is not happening. And
the Indianapolis Colts went away from their veteran ways over
the last two years. Otherwise, once you bring in Russell
Wilson to try to compete for that spot in a
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lesser spot, or at least be in consideration. He wasn't,
never was, never was thought to be. And maybe the
Colts are looking for big picture and a longer run
if Daniel Jones works out under Shane Steiken. But that
still goes back to the point is they didn't look
at Russell Wilson legit competition for Anthony Richardson in the
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starting quarterback gig. It's all of these decisions that other
teams have made that didn't include Russell Wilson that tell
us what Russell Wilson's future is. And aside from the
fact Aaron Rodgers is still out there for all of
these quarterback needing teams to be able to or quarterback
need needing teams to grab Steelers, Giants, Browns, Aaron Rodgers
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is ahead of Russell Wilson in all of those spots
if he wanted to be. And that's where I think
Russell Wilson has to look at it and say, all right,
what's my career? Am I really even good enough to
be the backup sort of guy? Is that in my
DNA to support a young quarterback if I'm going to
be the number two, Well, how about this.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
The one team you didn't mention that added a quarterback
this week was the team that added the guy who
backed Russell Wilson up this year. And so the Jets now, Listen,
the Jets don't have a lot of good options with
where they're drafting, they're not going to be in a
position to take a quarterback. But they just said we'd
rather take the guy that was benched for Russell Wilson.
And I know Justin Fields is younger, and he's certainly
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more athletic, and he can do some things that Russell
Wilson can't. But again, if the Jets were just looking
for you know, the Jets clearly were limited in their
options and took the guy that Russell Wilson beat out
for a job last year.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Probably not a great sign either. The funny thing is
as well, with Justin Fields again gets twenty million dollars.
Twenty million dollars a season for the New York Jets
two years, forty million was the contract. I don't think
Russell Wilson's going to get close to any of that
by no means. And that's that's where you see it.
I didn't think Aaron Rodgers was going to play in
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twenty twenty five. I think that the information now that
we've seen through free agency and what he's doing, I
think that that I think my assessment is probably wrong.
I think we're going to see him on the field
and see him either in one of the three spots
that we told us Pittsburgh and with the Giants seemingly
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like the let you know, the most recent ones. But
if Pittsburgh really wanted to bring him back a Ken,
they had a full season with him, I know, and
they would rather roll the dice on what forty one
year old Aaron Rodgers wishy washy Aaron Rodgers in terms
of what is going to happen, not necessarily knowing where
his mind is. They would rather roll the dice on
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that than to bring the guy that they had in
their locker room for a year. That tells you all
you need to know about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
So one calendar year from now, Russell Wilson's completely out
of the public eye in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I I don't. I don't see how he can be
a backup. I agree, you know, I was thinking about
this really quick to lead the shot. I'm mean to
cut you off. That's all right? Remember was it?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I forget when, but it must have been after this
season with the New England Patriots. But it was like
a big sports radio topic of like Cam Newton can't
be a backup because he's too famous to be a backup,
And of course it became a oh what is that
supposed to mean? And oh what's the hidden coded light? No,
you can't have Cam Newton as your backup. In Cam
Newton's case, it's because if things go haywire with the starter,
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people are gonna demand for the back. But there's just
something about having like a super famous dude that really
can't do the job as your backup. We say the
same thing about Tim Tebow, like having him as a backup,
And I would put Russell Wilson in that same category
if you just you can't have him in the building
because you know, if you're just let's just you know whatever,
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say say the Giants are bad, they draft a quarterback
next year. Well, every time there's an open locker room
after a game, people are gonna go to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So I'm I know, I cut you off. Before you
could even answer. But I'm with you. I don't think
he can be back. Remember when Carmela and Anthony laughed
about coming off the bench when he was in Oklahoma case,
you know, like yeah, like he's like, they want me
to call off the bench, Like that's that's it's the
same thing. I actually thought that Russell Wilson needed the
opportunity to be the guy to come to the rescue,
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and I thought that opportunity presented itself in Pittsburgh this
past season. The problem was is the Steelers fared pretty
well with Justin Fields early. Then to your point about
the comment that Tomlin made when Russell Wilson did take
over and made plays mid season, it looked, oh, there
it is. That was here's Russell Wilson to the rescue,
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adding a dynamic. But that bloom is now off that flower.
Considering how the end of the season transpired, and so
even to go into that spot Aaron of the role
of saving the day, He's already tried it in Pittsburgh's
and it didn't work as well as they would have hoped.
So all of this stuff that we hear of the
Giants and the Browns, He's planned b for all of them.
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The Browns just really doesn't make sense, especially after the
Kenny Pickett deal, where they're drafting what they're looking at.
I don't understand it, but I just think that the
writing is on the wall for everything that's happened so
far in free agency and what could be happening with
Aaron Rodgers should tell Russell Wilson everything that he needs
to know.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Last, last, last point for me is it wasn't a
perfect situation in Pittsburgh because Tomlin's a defensive coach. They've
never been super dynamic offensively, They've gone through ocs, but
veteran head coach has your back really good defense. There
were a lot of things working in Russell Wilson's favor
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in Pittsburgh that won't be working in his favor in
New York, that won't be working in his favor anywhere
that in theory he could still go. So under the
assumption there's even a landing spot for him, I don't
think the situation that he's going to fall to is
going to be better than what he just had him.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Pitched, then just drafted and just traded for a wide
receiver who had his best career year with Russell Wilson
and he's not coming back. I think that tells you
all you need to know. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer,
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keeping our tabs on college shoops and whatnot. With the
NBA last night put on quite a show, at least
in one NBA market. I'm sitting back Aaron watching the
Bucks gonna lock up a huge win on the road
in Indianapolis against the Pacers. Pacers unable to tie the
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game on free throws. Bucks have a one point lead.
Bucks are gonna shoot their own free throws, extend at
the three. You're gonna leave Indianapolis with a victory. And
then this happened. Here comes a three.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And a foul a foul, a foul as Halliburton, floating
at a bounds in front of the Milwaukee fence, hits
a three and drows a foul.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
A four point play dooms the Bucks in a one
fifteen to one to fourteen win over the Indiana Pacers.
In this run of good will coming from the NBA,
ever since Nico Harrison traded Luka Dancic to the Lakers,
I think has continued. We'd seen some great games from
Nicola Jokic. Halliburton shot last night. This is this is
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how I rate it. Adam Schefter actually tweeted the highlight
of the Halliburton four point play, and the game was
not on ESPN. It was it's a TNT game, so
it was enough for Adam Schefter, the ESPN employee. Usually
if it's an ESPN game, you're like, okay, that's an
in house deal. This was not an awful late game
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situation with the Bucks. Yannis with the foul on Tyre's Halliburton.
Doc Rivers then challenges to play to see if Halliburton's
foot was out of bounds or if Jannis didn't foul them.
Challenge failed, so the Bucks lost their time out and
couldn't advance the ball after Halliburton completed the four point play,
and then Jannis missed a twenty foot runner with no
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time left and game was over. And it's just a
spread of goodwill through the NBA last night, continuing as now,
we took three months of the season and we rained
on the product. But even Tyre's Halliburton's play last night
and had people talking outside of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I'll say this is that, you know, obviously, look, I
like a lot of people have been critical of the
NBA three or you know, the previous couple of years,
but one I do think the Luca trade pumped some
juice into the league, and obviously Jimmy Butler as well.
And I'll say this too is sometimes you catch some
bad sometimes. Like for as much as we want to
criticize the NBA, like they've gotten some bad breaks right,
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jaws off the court situation, Ben Simmons' mental health, whatever
you want to call it, NB can't stay healthy, whatever,
but sometimes you need some breaks along the way. And
I think that not only has have there been interesting storylines,
but they've caught some breaks, right. So the Lakers that
I know, Lebron's out, but the Lakers not only get hot,
they happen to play the Knicks and the Celtics and
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you know Zion when Zion's playing. So I just bring
it up because it feels like, you know, it just
feels like things are finally starting to break their way.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Not only is their.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Marquee trades to marquee teams that seem to have rejuvenated
both the Warriors and the Lakers. I know the Lakers
are without Lebron for the time being, but then you
happen to get them in signature games, signature moments. We
all kind of we're paying attention to that Lakers Knicks game.
We're all paying attention to Celtics Lakers on Saturday. So
I think, overall, again with the third caveat that Lebron
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is a little bit banged up. I think they've gotten
some good luck along with some with everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I think, you know, Jimmy Butler's success with Golden State,
as you perk up your ears a little bit, I
think that has not been a huge thing, but it's
made it a more positive conversation. And one of the
conversations that you have is about the positive or negative
coverage of the NBA that you have through its principal partners,
and it's something that the players have complained about. We've
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heard this the top players complaining about what I felt
was inside the NBA. You've pointed out stephen A Smith
being critical. These players of the NBA have said, well,
we're getting negativity from all of these points about our game.
How is that going to help our game? Well, last
night was a great moment, and it wasn't a great
moment because the Bucks lost and the Pacers won and
(25:58):
it made a log jam for the four, five and
six spot on the East. None of that mattered. It
was a four point play. That was a crazy shot
by Tyrese Haliburton. That happened at the end of the
game when he kind of felt all hope was lost.
That's common in every sport. But then the one eighty
happened on the TNT broadcast. Shaquille O'Neal talking about that
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Detroit Pistons team that is now currently tied essentially with
the Bucks and Pacers for that fourth spot in the East.
Shaquille O'Neal talking about what he likes with the Detroit
Pistons last night, I will be interested.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
You said something very interesting about kay Gunningham. Great player
now this day. She plays at his own pace. Anybody
that can consistently play of their own place and put
up numbers, it's a great player. I like the way
he's playing. I like what Chelse he is doing. Those
guys play hard. My favorite player on that team was
Isaiah Stuart. Big body, hard guy, liked to knock people
out of.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Pushing Who's doing it?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He said, Chauncey, Okay, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
That's what I'm man. You know. First of all, I
don't watch Detroit. How about that boom boot?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
No, but I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I think you would enjoy watching the Detroit Pistols.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I don't want to get played hard.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Kate is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Jalen Durwans, you're kind of big. Okay Stewart, Uh, kudos
to left Go for trying to save Shack there who
was drowning in deep water. I loved the absolute one
eighty No tell it wasn't ten seconds or my love
kid cunning am in Isaiah Stewart too. I don't watch
Detroit play at all. I don't know who they are.
(27:40):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
What do we think was he trying to Was he
trying to look cool? Was he trying because like Chuck
has pulled off the like fun ribbing. Yeah, I don't
really watch this league half the time.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Anyway. Do you think he was just embarrassed and that
was Yeah? It has to be that right. It was
pretty incredible. I've said stupid stuff. I said a tweet
out the other night that I knew exactly what I was.
I type the wrong thing and then somebody called me
a dumb a. So I just deleted it because I
had the wrong thing. Instead of writing Las Vegas, I
wrote New Orleans because it was a West Coast Conference
thing at Orleans Arena. In my mind, yeah, you can
(28:13):
make you can make that Messa. Yeah, but but it
doesn't translate. And so to Shack's point, there the problem
is is the criticism that all the NBA players have
been saying of you don't watch the game and everything
is negative. Here is Shaq praising a team he hasn't watched,
and then it gets mad about because he gets the
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coach and doesn't know. There's so much with that. It's
the inadvertent telling on yourself. So if you're an NBA
player and saying, not only are you being critical of
our game, you're not even paying attention to our game.
But yet their voices are so powerful that if you're
a casual viewer of the NBA and you're dropping in,
(28:54):
you're taking what Shaquille O'Neil says and then using that
as truth. And so so there's it's it's really heavy
in the spot of I don't know if Candas Parker
should have outed him at that point, because I don't
think it did any good. But to her point, she
thinks it's ribbing, but it unveiled the curtain that I
think NBA players have been complaining about a long time
(29:15):
and kind of proves their point of Listen, you could
rip on the league all you want, but if you
don't know the league, maybe you shouldn't be talking about
the league.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well, I'll say this, what's you know? Frustrating is at
the right word. I don't know that any of us
care enough to be frustrated. But there was a very
easy correction there without saying, oh, I don't even I
don't watch Detroit. I'm shack. I gottat watch the Troit.
You could have just said, oh, man, Chauncey Phillips, brain fart.
Obviously he's a piston leg. You know he's a piston.
He's a pistons.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Let you don't have to do the whole. I don't
watch the team.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And by the way, Shack, I know you watch the
team because Isaiah Stewart isn't the first name that rolls
off your tongue when you're just pulling stuff out of
the air.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Oh yeah, I watch I watched the NFL. That Mahomes
guy's good.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Oh, Tennis Yokovic, he's still doing stuf right, Like Isaiah Stewart,
isn't the name that you pull out of the air
unless you are actually watching that team.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
So Shaq just own it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Own that.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Oh, Billip Chauncey, of course he's not the coach of
the Pistons. He played in the Pistons. What am I thinking?
Instead he defaults to the YAH to watch the Pistons,
which is just absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And I don't want to sit there and say I'm
throwing stones in a glasshouse. If we did a Baseball
Manager's List, I'd probably go ten for thirty like that's
that's where we would go. Also, not hosting inside the MBA.
That's the point. Yes, that's exactly the point. The same
thing for the NBA.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
GO.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I think I could do pretty well with the NBA,
but I don't know if i'd go thirty for thirty.
But that's that's the other portion of it of when
you're the voice of the league and have that much power.
It was just a unique spot. Shaq could have saved it.
I don't think Cannice Parker did him any help. I
think Leftgo tried to save it at the end, but
at that point the cat was out of the bag
(30:55):
on SHAQ was like, well, I don't care. I don't
watch Detroit anyway. I think that's part of the problem
is as well that we aren't seeing or we aren't
paying attention to stuff like that. Last night, people were
paying attention to the Pacers and Bucks because they love
the Halliburton shot. But the Shack comment sure said a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
As somebody who fancies himself a guy who loves college hoops,
he'd be like me being like, oh, yeah, Florida Gators
in position to get a number one seed.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Billy Dottovan's doing really good with that.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh oh, Billy Donovan doesn't go I don't even watch
the Gators.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
What are you talking about? Dan Byer? It's like, come on, man,
git about vete air and underscore tores. You can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox and trust me, I've
said plenty wrong. So that's why I don't want to
throw these stones in the glass South.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
But have you ever any claim that you don't actually
watch the sport that you admittedly know?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
No, I try to stay in my lanes as much
as possible, agreed me. So I'm like, in terms of
I even watched the we were talking about the Celtics
documentary on HBO Max, and I was like, why do
we need a Celtics docuseries? And it was a topic
of conversation yesterday. I'm like, we've We've had tons about
the Red Sox. There's been Patriot once, there's another Boston one.
(32:01):
But I wanted to watch it. I only watched the
first half of the first episode because it comes out
in episodes. There were two episodes that were released, and
I watched the second half last night, and I felt
a little guilty because I didn't watch the whole episode
to be able to talk about it like I did
yesterday after seeing the second thirty minutes. I don't know
if I'm gonna go back and watch the second episode.
But that's where I try to try to stay in
(32:22):
my lane, and if I veer too far off of it,
it's it's not good for anybody. He's eron Torres. I'm
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Speaker 3 (33:05):
We do love Shack. He appears every week here on
Cavino and Rich. Just a rough night last night, it
happens He's erin Torres. I'm dan Byer, Isaac loh and
Kronez here, Ryan Berschinger, executive producer, Iowa Sam on the
Ones and two's next question, Shaq telling us so much
he loves Kid Cunningham and Isaiah Stewart, and then forgetting
(33:25):
that Chauncey Phillips isn't the Pistons head coach, Episton's great
but the Trailblazer's head coach. That immediately goes to the well,
don't I don't watch the Pistons card, which again, was
it quite turned around? I felt like the landing could
have been a lot softer, and then truly, what just
happened unbeknownst to you? Erin torres H in our commercial break.
(33:51):
I made a mistake with something, and my first inkling
was to make an excuse like Shack, just I don't care.
I should have said that. Did you call burshbow Bens
in by accident? He did not. I did not, but
I wanted to see where I went wrong. And then
I understood where I went wrong and said, okay, all right,
(34:11):
I gotta I gotta just correct that the for the
next time that we do it, so so I don't
make that mistake twice. And now I know what that
mistake is. But I do understand Shack immediately going to
the well. I don't care about the bisiness anyway. I've
done the same thing. I've loading the dishwasher just you know,
(34:32):
my wife tells me, and I don't don't put the
dishes there. I'm like, I don't even do the dishes anyway.
I slam the door and leave it.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's like being on a first date. Wow, that went
really well. I can't wait to see you again. Yeah
the other person. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna work. Yeah,
what are you talking? I didn't want to see you anyway,
what are you talking about? I had an awful time,
she was awful.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You pick up the check like that it is, and
I felt that I felt his teammates could have helped
him out in that situation, but they did not.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I will say Candas Parker's defense, she she didn't have to.
You know, no, no, we all make verbal mistakes sometimes,
and uh, you know you you you know this as
a co host is I'm sure there's something that I've
said over the course of this show or in past
shows where it's like, yeah, that's that's not correct. But
i know where you were going with it, so I'm
just gonna keep my mouth shut. So Cannis Parker, you know,
(35:21):
I'm not a I'm not blaming it on Candas Parker,
but it was a easy mistake to make.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're you're in sports. But anybody who's listening probably loves
sports and they're talking with a buddy Like I had
a buddy who I played fantasy football with, and he
kept on calling Rashad White Rishard White. Sure, and it's
not a big deal. It's not at all like it's
he could go his entire life in calling him Rishard White.
(35:49):
But there were a couple of things. Number One, his
team was better than I was. This wasn't the last year,
it was the year before. So Rashad White was doing
great for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and so I'm like, well,
you don't even know your own players on your team's name,
and you have a better record than I do. That's
what I was saying in my head. I did not
(36:11):
verbalize it to the person, but for the sake of
the one on one argument, I let it slide. If
you are if we're talking about NFL running backs and
you say Richard White, what I would do in that
case is I would continue talking about Rischard White and
just call him Rashad White. So then if you didn't
(36:32):
realize that you'd said it wrong, or he didn't realize
that was his name, then you would know it would
be Rashad and nothing would be It could have just
been a brain fart or whatever. But that's the part
where Candas Parker then calls him out and then all
hell breaks loose and completely blows the cover. So I
don't know she. I don't think she was being a
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great teammate. I know that show is built on funny moments,
but when you look at the bigger narrative in the
NBA this year, and it's been one of the problems
that the players have been talking about. I think Kennice
Parker should have just let that slide. Yeah, it just
said JB. Bickerstaff's been doing a great job. It's why
he's one of the candidates for Coach of the Year.
I'll actually give you a great example this. I'll be quick,
(37:14):
but you mentioned last night Orleans Arena against Zaga Saint Mary's.
At one point, Saint Mary's was OH for fourteen from
three The broadcaster, who we know the analyst on the
game says, oh, you know, they haven't made a free
throw the whole game. On the way back down, the
play by play commentator said, yep, Saint Mary's oh for
fourteen from behind the three point line, and the other
(37:36):
broadcaster corrected himself on air, I said free throws, I
met three pointers? Yeah, yeah, easy. Simply people must speak
all the time, especially in this medium or if you're
talking with friends. It's just the choice of do you
let it slide? Is it really worth it in that case?
And I don't know if it was worth it in
that situation, if it's not highlighted, if the whole thing
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doesn't happen. Maybe it goes out to a blog here
or there, but I don't think it becomes something that
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buying should be. We're gonna talk some college hoops today
throughout the show at various times. North Carolina getting a
win there on the bubble. Not that a win against
Notre Dame helps your cause, but if you don't win
that game, any hope of getting to the NCAA tournament
would be lost. That is very accurate. Busy day.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
North Carolina's probably the headliner, but you know, we're watching
a Texas Vandy game. Texas has to win some games
at the SEC tournament. Vandy felt like they were in.
We don't need to nerd out on bracketology at this
exact moment, but this would be a third straight loss,
which would make things interesting. So fun time a year
for college hoops and fun time a year to your point,
really across sportsmanu factor in the NFL news, Bursch was
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just at some spring training stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's a really fun time year. The greatest sports day
on the calendar of all three sixty five will be
determined coming up in an hour from now, so in
sixty minutes, we're gonna want to hear from you. There's
three hundred and sixty five days, sometimes three hundred and
sixty six to choose from, but only one can be
the absolute best sports day. Aaron Torres has one in mind.
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We're gonna find out what that is in an hour.
But you heard Isaac Loowin Kron at the news desk,
who at the bottom of the hour will let us
know what's happening in some of these conference tournament games.
Give us the headlines of the day, and there are
a lot of headlines in the National Football League, and
the headline right now is Russell Wilson is going to
meet with the Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants.
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And I think on the surface that sounds like it's
great news for Russell Wilson. Erin Torres that two teams
are interested in Russell Wilson's services, But when you look
at the list of free agents in the NFL and
you look at those that have signed in those that haven't,
there are far more players that have signed and found
teams than haven't. We're actually in the new league year,
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so that two day window where you can sign where
it's legal, but it's not really official yet. That's over.
Everything is now fair game, it's good to go. And
Russell Wilson still hasn't found a home and to me,
that is not a good sign for Russell Wilson. And
when you also see that Aaron Rodgers' name is out
there at this point, I think it's an even worse
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sign for Russell Wilson. I know that Russell Wilson's gonna
have meetings later this week with Cleveland and the New
York Giants, but in my heart of hearts, I think
it's over for Russell Wilson. I think it is done
for Russell Wilson as a starting quarterback in the National
Football League. And I'm not even sure of his value
as a backup considering some of the other circumstances we
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see in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, and I know this is a little bit off
topic to start, but you covered his career for so
long as a Seahawks fan, you probably paid closer attention
than most. I was gonna ask you, like, if there
is no starting spot or if this is the last
year where he even has an opportunity to earn a
starting spot, is this just a guy that immediately transfers
or translation into TV or to the private business world.
(04:03):
Because to your point, yes, maybe he will get one
more shot this year, because there's way more teams than
quarterbacks that are good enough to be starting in this league.
But I don't see, you know, he certainly isn't like
a Chase Daniel type that's gonna stay till whatever mentor
younger guys and stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So I was just curious. I mean, I don't think
he's gonna be with an internet startup or a new
web based hot Twitter handle that breaks down film. I
don't think it's gonna be. I don't think Aaron Torres,
you're gonna expand and bring Russell Wilson in for newfound
NFL coverage. I don't think that's going to happen at all.
Not filling in on the weekends on Fox Sports, not
filling in on the weekends. And you want to know why,
(04:41):
you want to know why he's not gonna be on
CBS and he's not gonna be on Fox or shouldn't
be because he can't criticize anyone interesting, to criticize any
anything and say that like the everything that we hear
out of Russell Wilson's mouth, I don't know if we
really believe. So if you put him on a TV
set at some point in his career, I'm not sure
(05:03):
if that's even gonna work for him because I don't
know if he can be even critical, and if he was,
if you'd actually believe what he was saying, because he
seems to be so positive and seems to put on
this front when speaking to anybody.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
So when James Brown throws the highlight to him and
the Jags are down forty one to ten, JAG's country,
Let's ride.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's that's kind of him. It's gonna be if there's
a pick six, he'd be like a tough, tough job
for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
There.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You know, thought he had the guy, but sometimes the
DV just makes a better play. It's nothing you can
do about it, but that's what that's what you would get.
That would be like a big shout out to Trevor Lawrence.
I love the guy. That's what the analyst, the analysis
would be. If Russell Wilson, you're wanted to be in TV.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
You're a Seahawks fan who's watched way too many Russell
Wilson press conferences in your life, Oh, over.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And over and over. But the whole free agency process
and what has gone on over the last couple of
years is the writing that's on the wall for Russell Wilson.
When you look at free agency right now and we
see the spots that have been filled, We're going to
just start with his most recent spot. This is why
Russell Wilson's career is likely over. The narrative out of
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Pittsburgh throughout this offseason has been, we're not going to
bring it back both quarterbacks. We're going to bring back one,
or we could bring back one, we could bring back none,
but we I'll tell you one thing we're not going
to do. We're not going to bring back two. They
were not going to bring back both Justin Fields and
Russell Wilson. Well, Justin Fields is no longer available. He
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is not able to go back to the Pittsburgh Steelers
because he signed a twenty million dollars a year contract
with the New York Jets. So the narrative out of
Pittsburgh is we're not going to bring both back, but
we may bring one back. We've bet in communication with
Justin Fields people. We've been in communication with Russell Wilson's people.
Justin Fields is now out of the equation. Guess what,
(07:00):
Russell Wilson is still there. You just trade it for
DK Metcalf who is familiar with Russell Wilson totally. So
why isn't a deal done yet? Well, they would rather
speak to Aaron Rodgers, who's forty one again, still trying
to come back from an Achilles' injury, in a place
where you have no idea if he'd even work in
the locker room and how much gas he actually has
(07:22):
left in the tank. Russell Wilson's, you know, five years
younger than Aaron Rodgers. You would think that would be
in his wheelhouse, but it's not. And you want to
talk about locker room. I think there's just as much
risk of putting Aaron Rodgers in a locker room than
there is with Russell Wilson. I'm not sure on how
much Russell Wilson fits in a locker room, especially now
being in his mid thirties. It's one thing when you're
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a young guy and still trying to do your thing.
Everybody else is your peers, but there's not a lot
of thirty something's in that locker room as well. But yeah,
the Pittsburgh Steelers may feel it be more valuable to
have Aaron Rodgers who plays better right now than Russell
Wilson actually plays. That tells you something. And the Steelers
had a full look for an entire year at Russell
Wilson and not bringing him back. That's just one of
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the reasons why I think it's done for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Well, that last part to me is the most important,
right because you know, first of all, the on the
field when lost records speaks for herself, starts four to zero,
loses six of his final eight what is it five
in a row to end the regular season? But what
was the narrative when things were actually going good for
Russell Wilson, Oh, this is Mike Tomlin's hand pick Successor
what did Mike Tomlin say when Russell Wilson started out hot?
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This is why they pay me the big bucks, you know.
And the one thing that was kind of hammered home
again and again and again and again during last season
through the ups and of course the eventual downs, was
that the two of them, Mike Tomlin and Russell Wilson,
had a great working relationship. And so to me, that
speaks to if the one guy in the league that
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you seemingly had the trust of, because we know Sean
Payton didn't trust him. We know that Pete Carroll and
trust him. If now Mike Tomlin is saying, either I've
seen enough on film where you're not the guy, or
I've lost trust in you as a dude. When I
was putting it out there for two straight months, how
much I liked it, how much we got along, we
met privately, That's the part that would concern me, because
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Mike Tomlin very publicly appeared to be in his corner
when things were going well for Russell.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Will And think of the caliber of names that you
just mentioned. Not only did Pete Carroll pass on Russell Wilson,
He's actually passed on him twice. The first time they
allowed him to leave Seattle to get that deal with
the Denver Broncos and they turned it over to Gino Smith.
Pete Carroll now is another decision with the Raiders. Do
I sign Russell Wilson or do I trade for Gino
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Smith and pay him more than I would pay Russell Wilson.
Guess what I'm going to go with Gino Smith on
this one. I'm not going to go on Russell Wilson.
So that's twice Pete Carroll has turned away from Russell
Wilson and Sean Payton. We know how that went. And
like him or not, Sean Payton showed his worth with
the Denver Broncos this past season with the growth of
Bonnicks the staff that he puts together and makes it
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one of the better defenses in the National Football League.
The right is on the wall. I would even say
Aaron in his meeting with the Cleveland Browns. I don't
know if it's a courtesy meeting, but this team just
traded for Kenny Pickett and sits there at number two,
where we think they have a really decent shot at
(10:18):
drafting cam Ward as their starting quarterback. If he doesn't
go number one to Tennessee, it could be an option there.
So what's the point of even meeting with Russell Wilson.
If you've brought in Kenny Pickett, you're likely to take
a quarterback not convinced, but that could be a possible ability.
And you still have Deshaun Watson sitting there in that
(10:40):
locker like this is there doesn't seem to make any
sense or any room for him to even go to Cleveland.
I don't know if he's just getting a courtesy interview,
but there doesn't even seem to be a possible fit
for him to go to Cleveland. And if it's between
Kenny Pickett, let's say Deshaun Watson is not going to
come back in twenty twenty five at all, and they
can wash the hands and do whatever with Deshaun Watson,
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and you don't take cam Ward second overall, you take
Travis Hunter or someone else. You're gonna have a battle
between Kenny Pickett and Russell Wilson. Who do you really
want to win that quarterback battle? You probably want Kenny Pickett,
the younger quarterback, the one who's maybe getting a second chance,
not the guy that's been around the league. And toss
now between super Bowl winning head coaches for the past
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five seasons.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I'll say this, you know one, I would never
push our audience to one of our competitors. But we
have four screens on in studio right now, and one
of them has a topic bar that says are the
Browns done adding quarterbacks this offseason? So we're not the
only ones that don't really know what this meeting is about.
Right now, I think everybody that cares about football, cares
about the NFL is asking the same question. And I
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think the other thing too, Dan, is you know you
asked in theory who you would want to win a
Kenny Pickett versus a Russell Wilson quarterback derby if you will.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I mean, here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
If you're the Browns and assuming it's not just a
throwaway season, is the issue becomes. You know, Kenny Pickett,
I know, was in the division left and was at
least with Philly, you know, kind of in that winning culture.
Russell Wilson was just in this division. We just saw
it after a couple games when people figured things out.
He was not very good, had no answers for Baltimore,
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struggled late, struggled against the best, you know, in the
biggest games of his season. So now you're going to
in theory, if you are the Browns, bring him in,
and to your point, the best case scenario, I guess
would be that he wins the starting quarterback job. And
we kind of saw what he looked like in meaningful
late December early January AFC North Games.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
The Indianapolis Colts would rather pay Daniel Jones fourteen million
dollars to compete with Anthony Richardson. Russell Wilson was viewed
by the Indianapolis Colts. This is what this is what
they're telling you. They viewed him like they viewed Gardner
Minshew and Joe Flacco, not as a yes, as a
backup quarterback in case something went wrong, because that was
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the planning with Anthony richards in these last two years.
Let's bring in a veteran to back them up and
if something goes wrong, the veteran could come in or
if Richardson gets hurt. I never understood the Flacco or
Gardner Minshew scenarios with the Colts because they were just
completely different than who Anthony Richardson was. But now the
Colts say we want competition. They would rather pay Daniel
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Jones fourteen million dollars a year to see if he
can push Anthony Richardson. Russell Wilson is not getting fourteen
million dollars a year and it is not happening. And
the Indianapolis Colts went away from their veteran ways over
the last two years. Otherwise, once you bring in Russell
Wilson to try to compete for that spot in a
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lesser spot, or at least be in consideration. He wasn't,
never was, never was thought to be. And maybe the
Colts are looking for big picture and a longer run
if Daniel Jones works out under Shane Steiken. But that
still goes back to the point is they didn't look
at Russell Wilson legit competition for Anthony Richardson in the
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starting quarterback gig. It's all of these decisions that other
teams have made that didn't include Russell Wilson that tell
us what Russell Wilson's future is. And aside from the
fact Aaron Rodgers is still out there for all of
these quarterback needing teams to be able to or quarterback
need needing teams to grab Steelers, Giants, Browns, Aaron Rodgers
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is ahead of Russell Wilson in all of those spots
if he wanted to be. And that's where I think
Russell Wilson has to look at it and say, all right,
what's my career? Am I really even good enough to
be the backup sort of guy? Is that in my
DNA to support a young quarterback if I'm going to
be the number two, Well, how about this.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
The one team you didn't mention that added a quarterback
this week was the team that added the guy who
backed Russell Wilson up this year. And so the Jets now, Listen,
the Jets don't have a lot of good options with
where they're drafting, they're not going to be in a
position to take a quarterback. But they just said we'd
rather take the guy that was benched for Russell Wilson.
And I know Justin Fields is younger, and he's certainly
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more athletic, and he can do some things that Russell
Wilson can't. But again, if the Jets were just looking
for you know, the Jets clearly were limited in their
options and took the guy that Russell Wilson beat out
for a job last year.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Probably not a great sign either. The funny thing is
as well, with Justin Fields again gets twenty million dollars.
Twenty million dollars a season for the New York Jets
two years, forty million was the contract. I don't think
Russell Wilson's going to get close to any of that
by no means. And that's that's where you see it.
I didn't think Aaron Rodgers was going to play in
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twenty twenty five. I think that the information now that
we've seen through free agency and what he's doing, I
think that that I think my assessment is probably wrong.
I think we're going to see him on the field
and see him either in one of the three spots
that we told us Pittsburgh and with the Giants seemingly
(15:59):
like the let you know, the most recent ones. But
if Pittsburgh really wanted to bring him back a Ken,
they had a full season with him, I know, and
they would rather roll the dice on what forty one
year old Aaron Rodgers wishy washy Aaron Rodgers in terms
of what is going to happen, not necessarily knowing where
his mind is. They would rather roll the dice on
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that than to bring the guy that they had in
their locker room for a year. That tells you all
you need to know about Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
So one calendar year from now, Russell Wilson's completely out
of the public eye in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I I don't. I don't see how he can be
a backup. I agree, you know, I was thinking about
this really quick to lead the shot. I'm mean to
cut you off. That's all right? Remember was it?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
I forget when, but it must have been after this
season with the New England Patriots. But it was like
a big sports radio topic of like Cam Newton can't
be a backup because he's too famous to be a backup,
And of course it became a oh what is that
supposed to mean? And oh what's the hidden coded light? No,
you can't have Cam Newton as your backup. In Cam
Newton's case, it's because if things go haywire with the starter,
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people are gonna demand for the back. But there's just
something about having like a super famous dude that really
can't do the job as your backup. We say the
same thing about Tim Tebow, like having him as a backup,
And I would put Russell Wilson in that same category
if you just you can't have him in the building
because you know, if you're just let's just you know whatever,
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say say the Giants are bad, they draft a quarterback
next year. Well, every time there's an open locker room
after a game, people are gonna go to Russell Wilson.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
So I'm I know, I cut you off. Before you
could even answer. But I'm with you. I don't think
he can be back. Remember when Carmela and Anthony laughed
about coming off the bench when he was in Oklahoma case,
you know, like yeah, like he's like, they want me
to call off the bench, Like that's that's it's the
same thing. I actually thought that Russell Wilson needed the
opportunity to be the guy to come to the rescue,
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and I thought that opportunity presented itself in Pittsburgh this
past season. The problem was is the Steelers fared pretty
well with Justin Fields early. Then to your point about
the comment that Tomlin made when Russell Wilson did take
over and made plays mid season, it looked, oh, there
it is. That was here's Russell Wilson to the rescue,
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adding a dynamic. But that bloom is now off that flower.
Considering how the end of the season transpired, and so
even to go into that spot Aaron of the role
of saving the day, He's already tried it in Pittsburgh's
and it didn't work as well as they would have hoped.
So all of this stuff that we hear of the
Giants and the Browns, He's planned b for all of them.
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The Browns just really doesn't make sense, especially after the
Kenny Pickett deal, where they're drafting what they're looking at.
I don't understand it, but I just think that the
writing is on the wall for everything that's happened so
far in free agency and what could be happening with
Aaron Rodgers should tell Russell Wilson everything that he needs
to know.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Last, last, last point for me is it wasn't a
perfect situation in Pittsburgh because Tomlin's a defensive coach. They've
never been super dynamic offensively, They've gone through ocs, but
veteran head coach has your back really good defense. There
were a lot of things working in Russell Wilson's favor
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in Pittsburgh that won't be working in his favor in
New York, that won't be working in his favor anywhere
that in theory he could still go. So under the
assumption there's even a landing spot for him, I don't
think the situation that he's going to fall to is
going to be better than what he just had him.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Pitched, then just drafted and just traded for a wide
receiver who had his best career year with Russell Wilson
and he's not coming back. I think that tells you
all you need to know. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer,
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keeping our tabs on college shoops and whatnot. With the
NBA last night put on quite a show, at least
in one NBA market. I'm sitting back Aaron watching the
Bucks gonna lock up a huge win on the road
in Indianapolis against the Pacers. Pacers unable to tie the
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game on free throws. Bucks have a one point lead.
Bucks are gonna shoot their own free throws, extend at
the three. You're gonna leave Indianapolis with a victory. And
then this happened. Here comes a three.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
And a foul a foul, a foul as Halliburton, floating
at a bounds in front of the Milwaukee fence, hits
a three and drows a foul.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
A four point play dooms the Bucks in a one
fifteen to one to fourteen win over the Indiana Pacers.
In this run of good will coming from the NBA,
ever since Nico Harrison traded Luka Dancic to the Lakers,
I think has continued. We'd seen some great games from
Nicola Jokic. Halliburton shot last night. This is this is
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how I rate it. Adam Schefter actually tweeted the highlight
of the Halliburton four point play, and the game was
not on ESPN. It was it's a TNT game, so
it was enough for Adam Schefter, the ESPN employee. Usually
if it's an ESPN game, you're like, okay, that's an
in house deal. This was not an awful late game
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situation with the Bucks. Yannis with the foul on Tyre's Halliburton.
Doc Rivers then challenges to play to see if Halliburton's
foot was out of bounds or if Jannis didn't foul them.
Challenge failed, so the Bucks lost their time out and
couldn't advance the ball after Halliburton completed the four point play,
and then Jannis missed a twenty foot runner with no
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time left and game was over. And it's just a
spread of goodwill through the NBA last night, continuing as now,
we took three months of the season and we rained
on the product. But even Tyre's Halliburton's play last night
and had people talking outside of the NBA.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I'll say this is that, you know, obviously, look, I
like a lot of people have been critical of the
NBA three or you know, the previous couple of years,
but one I do think the Luca trade pumped some
juice into the league, and obviously Jimmy Butler as well.
And I'll say this too is sometimes you catch some
bad sometimes. Like for as much as we want to
criticize the NBA, like they've gotten some bad breaks right,
(24:17):
jaws off the court situation, Ben Simmons' mental health, whatever
you want to call it, NB can't stay healthy, whatever,
but sometimes you need some breaks along the way. And
I think that not only has have there been interesting storylines,
but they've caught some breaks, right. So the Lakers that
I know, Lebron's out, but the Lakers not only get hot,
they happen to play the Knicks and the Celtics and
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you know Zion when Zion's playing. So I just bring
it up because it feels like, you know, it just
feels like things are finally starting to break their way.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Not only is their.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Marquee trades to marquee teams that seem to have rejuvenated
both the Warriors and the Lakers. I know the Lakers
are without Lebron for the time being, but then you
happen to get them in signature games, signature moments. We
all kind of we're paying attention to that Lakers Knicks game.
We're all paying attention to Celtics Lakers on Saturday. So
I think, overall, again with the third caveat that Lebron
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is a little bit banged up. I think they've gotten
some good luck along with some with everything that's happening.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And I think, you know, Jimmy Butler's success with Golden State,
as you perk up your ears a little bit, I
think that has not been a huge thing, but it's
made it a more positive conversation. And one of the
conversations that you have is about the positive or negative
coverage of the NBA that you have through its principal partners,
and it's something that the players have complained about. We've
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heard this the top players complaining about what I felt
was inside the NBA. You've pointed out stephen A Smith
being critical. These players of the NBA have said, well,
we're getting negativity from all of these points about our game.
How is that going to help our game? Well, last
night was a great moment, and it wasn't a great
moment because the Bucks lost and the Pacers won and
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it made a log jam for the four, five and
six spot on the East. None of that mattered. It
was a four point play. That was a crazy shot
by Tyrese Haliburton. That happened at the end of the
game when he kind of felt all hope was lost.
That's common in every sport. But then the one eighty
happened on the TNT broadcast. Shaquille O'Neal talking about that
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Detroit Pistons team that is now currently tied essentially with
the Bucks and Pacers for that fourth spot in the East.
Shaquille O'Neal talking about what he likes with the Detroit
Pistons last night, I will be interested.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
You said something very interesting about kay Gunningham. Great player
now this day. She plays at his own pace. Anybody
that can consistently play of their own place and put
up numbers, it's a great player. I like the way
he's playing. I like what Chelse he is doing. Those
guys play hard. My favorite player on that team was
Isaiah Stuart. Big body, hard guy, liked to knock people
out of.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Pushing Who's doing it?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
He said, Chauncey, Okay, Jamie.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
That's what I'm man. You know. First of all, I
don't watch Detroit. How about that boom boot?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
No, but I mean that sincerely.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I think you would enjoy watching the Detroit Pistols.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I don't want to get played hard.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Kate is phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Jalen Durwans, you're kind of big. Okay Stewart, Uh, kudos
to left Go for trying to save Shack there who
was drowning in deep water. I loved the absolute one
eighty No tell it wasn't ten seconds or my love
kid cunning am in Isaiah Stewart too. I don't watch
Detroit play at all. I don't know who they are.
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How about that?
Speaker 5 (27:41):
What do we think was he trying to Was he
trying to look cool? Was he trying because like Chuck
has pulled off the like fun ribbing. Yeah, I don't
really watch this league half the time.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Anyway. Do you think he was just embarrassed and that
was Yeah? It has to be that right. It was
pretty incredible. I've said stupid stuff. I said a tweet
out the other night that I knew exactly what I was.
I type the wrong thing and then somebody called me
a dumb a. So I just deleted it because I
had the wrong thing. Instead of writing Las Vegas, I
wrote New Orleans because it was a West Coast Conference
thing at Orleans Arena. In my mind, yeah, you can
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make you can make that Messa. Yeah, but but it
doesn't translate. And so to Shack's point, there the problem
is is the criticism that all the NBA players have
been saying of you don't watch the game and everything
is negative. Here is Shaq praising a team he hasn't watched,
and then it gets mad about because he gets the
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coach and doesn't know. There's so much with that. It's
the inadvertent telling on yourself. So if you're an NBA
player and saying, not only are you being critical of
our game, you're not even paying attention to our game.
But yet their voices are so powerful that if you're
a casual viewer of the NBA and you're dropping in,
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you're taking what Shaquille O'Neil says and then using that
as truth. And so so there's it's it's really heavy
in the spot of I don't know if Candas Parker
should have outed him at that point, because I don't
think it did any good. But to her point, she
thinks it's ribbing, but it unveiled the curtain that I
think NBA players have been complaining about a long time
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and kind of proves their point of Listen, you could
rip on the league all you want, but if you
don't know the league, maybe you shouldn't be talking about
the league.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Well, I'll say this, what's you know? Frustrating is at
the right word. I don't know that any of us
care enough to be frustrated. But there was a very
easy correction there without saying, oh, I don't even I
don't watch Detroit. I'm shack. I gottat watch the Troit.
You could have just said, oh, man, Chauncey Phillips, brain fart.
Obviously he's a piston leg. You know he's a piston.
He's a pistons.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Let you don't have to do the whole. I don't
watch the team.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
And by the way, Shack, I know you watch the
team because Isaiah Stewart isn't the first name that rolls
off your tongue when you're just pulling stuff out of
the air.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Oh yeah, I watch I watched the NFL. That Mahomes
guy's good.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Oh, Tennis Yokovic, he's still doing stuf right, Like Isaiah Stewart,
isn't the name that you pull out of the air
unless you are actually watching that team.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
So Shaq just own it.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Own that.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Oh, Billip Chauncey, of course he's not the coach of
the Pistons. He played in the Pistons. What am I thinking?
Instead he defaults to the YAH to watch the Pistons,
which is just absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And I don't want to sit there and say I'm
throwing stones in a glasshouse. If we did a Baseball
Manager's List, I'd probably go ten for thirty like that's
that's where we would go. Also, not hosting inside the MBA.
That's the point. Yes, that's exactly the point. The same
thing for the NBA.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
GO.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I think I could do pretty well with the NBA,
but I don't know if i'd go thirty for thirty.
But that's that's the other portion of it of when
you're the voice of the league and have that much power.
It was just a unique spot. Shaq could have saved it.
I don't think Cannice Parker did him any help. I
think Leftgo tried to save it at the end, but
at that point the cat was out of the bag
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on SHAQ was like, well, I don't care. I don't
watch Detroit anyway. I think that's part of the problem
is as well that we aren't seeing or we aren't
paying attention to stuff like that. Last night, people were
paying attention to the Pacers and Bucks because they love
the Halliburton shot. But the Shack comment sure said a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
As somebody who fancies himself a guy who loves college hoops,
he'd be like me being like, oh, yeah, Florida Gators
in position to get a number one seed.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Billy Dottovan's doing really good with that.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Oh oh, Billy Donovan doesn't go I don't even watch
the Gators.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
What are you talking about? Dan Byer? It's like, come on, man,
git about vete air and underscore tores. You can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox and trust me, I've
said plenty wrong. So that's why I don't want to
throw these stones in the glass South.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
But have you ever any claim that you don't actually
watch the sport that you admittedly know?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
No, I try to stay in my lanes as much
as possible, agreed me. So I'm like, in terms of
I even watched the we were talking about the Celtics
documentary on HBO Max, and I was like, why do
we need a Celtics docuseries? And it was a topic
of conversation yesterday. I'm like, we've We've had tons about
the Red Sox. There's been Patriot once, there's another Boston one.
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But I wanted to watch it. I only watched the
first half of the first episode because it comes out
in episodes. There were two episodes that were released, and
I watched the second half last night, and I felt
a little guilty because I didn't watch the whole episode
to be able to talk about it like I did
yesterday after seeing the second thirty minutes. I don't know
if I'm gonna go back and watch the second episode.
But that's where I try to try to stay in
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my lane, and if I veer too far off of it,
it's it's not good for anybody. He's eron Torres. I'm
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Speaker 3 (33:05):
We do love Shack. He appears every week here on
Cavino and Rich. Just a rough night last night, it
happens He's erin Torres. I'm dan Byer, Isaac loh and
Kronez here, Ryan Berschinger, executive producer, Iowa Sam on the
Ones and two's next question, Shaq telling us so much
he loves Kid Cunningham and Isaiah Stewart, and then forgetting
(33:25):
that Chauncey Phillips isn't the Pistons head coach, Episton's great
but the Trailblazer's head coach. That immediately goes to the well,
don't I don't watch the Pistons card, which again, was
it quite turned around? I felt like the landing could
have been a lot softer, and then truly, what just
happened unbeknownst to you? Erin torres H in our commercial break.
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I made a mistake with something, and my first inkling
was to make an excuse like Shack, just I don't care.
I should have said that. Did you call burshbow Bens
in by accident? He did not. I did not, but
I wanted to see where I went wrong. And then
I understood where I went wrong and said, okay, all right,
(34:11):
I gotta I gotta just correct that the for the
next time that we do it, so so I don't
make that mistake twice. And now I know what that
mistake is. But I do understand Shack immediately going to
the well. I don't care about the bisiness anyway. I've
done the same thing. I've loading the dishwasher just you know,
(34:32):
my wife tells me, and I don't don't put the
dishes there. I'm like, I don't even do the dishes anyway.
I slam the door and leave it.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's like being on a first date. Wow, that went
really well. I can't wait to see you again. Yeah
the other person. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna work. Yeah,
what are you talking? I didn't want to see you anyway,
what are you talking about? I had an awful time,
she was awful.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
You pick up the check like that it is, and
I felt that I felt his teammates could have helped
him out in that situation, but they did not.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
I will say Candas Parker's defense, she she didn't have to.
You know, no, no, we all make verbal mistakes sometimes,
and uh, you know you you you know this as
a co host is I'm sure there's something that I've
said over the course of this show or in past
shows where it's like, yeah, that's that's not correct. But
i know where you were going with it, so I'm
just gonna keep my mouth shut. So Cannis Parker, you know,
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I'm not a I'm not blaming it on Candas Parker,
but it was a easy mistake to make.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
You're you're in sports. But anybody who's listening probably loves
sports and they're talking with a buddy Like I had
a buddy who I played fantasy football with, and he
kept on calling Rashad White Rishard White. Sure, and it's
not a big deal. It's not at all like it's
he could go his entire life in calling him Rishard White.
(35:49):
But there were a couple of things. Number One, his
team was better than I was. This wasn't the last year,
it was the year before. So Rashad White was doing
great for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and so I'm like, well,
you don't even know your own players on your team's name,
and you have a better record than I do. That's
what I was saying in my head. I did not
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verbalize it to the person, but for the sake of
the one on one argument, I let it slide. If
you are if we're talking about NFL running backs and
you say Richard White, what I would do in that
case is I would continue talking about Rischard White and
just call him Rashad White. So then if you didn't
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realize that you'd said it wrong, or he didn't realize
that was his name, then you would know it would
be Rashad and nothing would be It could have just
been a brain fart or whatever. But that's the part
where Candas Parker then calls him out and then all
hell breaks loose and completely blows the cover. So I
don't know she. I don't think she was being a
(36:53):
great teammate. I know that show is built on funny moments,
but when you look at the bigger narrative in the
NBA this year, and it's been one of the problems
that the players have been talking about. I think Kennice
Parker should have just let that slide. Yeah, it just
said JB. Bickerstaff's been doing a great job. It's why
he's one of the candidates for Coach of the Year.
I'll actually give you a great example this. I'll be quick,
(37:14):
but you mentioned last night Orleans Arena against Zaga Saint Mary's.
At one point, Saint Mary's was OH for fourteen from
three The broadcaster, who we know the analyst on the
game says, oh, you know, they haven't made a free
throw the whole game. On the way back down, the
play by play commentator said, yep, Saint Mary's oh for
fourteen from behind the three point line, and the other
(37:36):
broadcaster corrected himself on air, I said free throws, I
met three pointers? Yeah, yeah, easy. Simply people must speak
all the time, especially in this medium or if you're
talking with friends. It's just the choice of do you
let it slide? Is it really worth it in that case?
And I don't know if it was worth it in
that situation, if it's not highlighted, if the whole thing
(37:56):
doesn't happen. Maybe it goes out to a blog here
or there, but I don't think it becomes something that
we're talking about the next day. He's Aaron Torres. I'm
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