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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Two down and two more months to go. That's what
we've got for postseason basketball in the NBA. This isn't
the playoffs, Manzi, but it is the postseason. If that
makes any sense.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
It's kicking off the postseason. That's what it's doing.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Chipping off there you go. Yeah, there's a buzz in
the air. Trails are being blazed. We could have used
that for playing tournament. Yeah, is off. The sun has
at least a little bit. Phoenix at least has a
chance to get into the postseason. We'll dive into that
and so much more as we are in for Covino
(00:55):
run Rich here on a Wednesday. We're not the only
ones here, Mansey. You know else is here. Ryan Berschinger,
our executive producer, Ryan, our technical producer is Chris Purfett.
Oh that was a new one. And Isaac Longcron has
already left the show.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
He's already over it.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Ninety seconds. He has had enough. See you later, Isaac,
He'll be back to give us the latest. I did
not see. Tyler Heroes outfit from this postgame press conference
last night still doesn't top what Nick Chubb war or
excuse me, Damian Lillard wore, because he looked like Nick
Chubb last night in Phoenix crazy. But Tyler Heroes wearing.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
This might be slightly worse.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Nike Grazer blade sunglasses. Yes, Timothy shallow.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
May, that's Timothy's shallow May. That's so good, Ryan, That's
exactly who that looked like.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Actually, Tyler hero got bailed out because of the free
throws that allowed them to take the lead. He had
a great three to pull the heat within two in overtime,
and then they got the steal. Then he had a
bad three, but Lamel ball was called. The follow was
called on ball. Hero makes three free throws, the hornets
come down score on the LaMelo ball basket, which you
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have a problem with.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean, I know we don't call travel, but guys,
we got to call travel when there's a little hop there.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
He makes, he makes the bucket, then he'd unable to score,
Davian Mitchell unable to cash in at the end, and
the Hornets survive. And it was pandemonium in Charlotte. But
you know what else it was, Monty, It was fun
entertaining NBA basketball. And we talked about this around Christmas
time when the Christmas games tipped off, that the NBA
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teams that were playing on Christmas Day put on a show.
They had something to play for, They put on a
great product. And last night it may not be playoff basketball,
but it was different from anything that we had seen
in the previous eighty two games of the season. And
I'm ready to give the NBA some leeway on this.
This is the topic we continue to talk about. Last
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night's game in Charlotte and last night's game in Phoenix.
They just have a different feel. And if the NBA
wants to come to terms with them being now a
two month out of the year sport, I think that
could be better for everyone. But I thoroughly enjoyed that
lipstick on a pig last night, Manzi, I told you this,
I was making out with the pig last night. I
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loved what I saw in Charlotte. It was magnificent. I
loved what I saw in Phoenix between two teams that
we really don't think are going to go anywhere once
the actual playoffs do start. But I like the play
in tournament. The basketball we got last night was different
than anything else, and for that, I say thumbs up, NBA.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
It is a thumbs up, but it paints a bigger
picture of you guys. It's gotta be frustrating to the
fans because it's like, we know that there can be
good product on the court. We know that there can
be and last night prove that, but it's is it
a bit of fools gold? Once we get past this
play in the first two rounds between an eight seed
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and a one seed in both conferences, it may not
beat fun, It might not be might not be fun.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But then you know, you don't have the Bucks playing
the Heat this year, so they.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
You know, the Heat, who always make it fun. The
Heat do make it interesting every single time. I I
love watching the Heat, and I'm bum they didn't, you know,
do what they usually do is win the playing game.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You love the NBA more than I do, and you've
got your team in the mix with the Clippers playing.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Nobody talked to me after she's got got her.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Kawhi Leonard shirt on, she's ready to go write it out.
Sit back and watch this game and hopefully they can,
for your sake, beat Golden State, maybe end Steve cursed
ten year with the Warriors, and then see what they
do against Phoenix on Friday.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, it's gonna be a calling sick tomorrow with you
if they lose. You know what I mean. Really, I'm
just kidding, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I'm just kidding, just kidding. I'm just getting well. Playing
tournament MONI would be so ill, so ill, But at
least it means.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Something absolutely and that no, no, And I'm totally kidding
because after the start to the season and everything that's happened,
just to be in the play in is cool because
I didn't think it was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
What I find interesting comparing the play in games is
the NBA has tried to make a lot of changes.
They're going to be changing the lottery to try to
avoid tanking. But this is again, fresh off of a
month where we had thirty point blowouts seemingly every night
in the NBA teams that didn't care. We've now moved
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some of them aside and all of them aside and
started this postseason and you had a competitive game. There
are times when you have back to backs. I was
singing about the NFL, like, how do we compare this
to the NFL, And to go on just a little
bit of a tangent the NBA when we talk about
playing hard and playing for something, I don't think guys
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don't try during the regular season. I don't think that's
the case. You're just not seeing the effort that was
put forth last night when your season is on the
line in those sort of crunch time situations, and you
can't replicate that in the regular season. In the NFL,
you can a little because you only play seventeen games.
But Manzi, even in that window, if you have a
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Thursday night game and you're playing on Sunday and you
have an injured player that is coming back from injury,
what you usually do is you say, I'm going to
hold out this guy and keep them from next week.
Keep them from next week. Then he'll have more rest,
he'll be able to come back. That decision is not
unlike the decisions that we get night in, night out
in the NBA of guys playing or not. You're trying
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to decipher what is our best opportunity with people on
load management now players trying to get their sixty five
games in for their postseason awards, but you're trying to
decipher when do we play this guy? And sometimes for teams,
if you're actually looking at how the standings break down,
it's better to have your star players against the worst teams,
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so then you get your automatic win. And if you
don't play them against the better team, then guess what.
You may have lost that game with your best player anyway,
and at least you didn't have the wear and tear.
It's all it's all a math gaming. You're trying to
figure things out. So I'm actually giving the NBA a
little bit of a pass. But last night just showed
the urgency of the play in and of the playoff,
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and comparing it to the NBA Cup, like, last night
was one hundred times better. Like it actually showed that
there was something on the line. Your season was on
the line, and that's that's what I just I took
away from last night. Season wasn't on the line for Phoenix,
but it's gonna be on Friday night, and they really
wanted to win, so they didn't have to play on Friday,
So there were stakes at stake last night, and that's
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different than anything that you can get in the previous
eighty two games.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
It's really difficult to compare, I feel like the NFL
to any sport because the stakes are high Week one
of the NFL for every team, and it's every game
feels like they are desperate to win, like it's it's
quite incredible how the NFL makes you feel like that
from Week one all the way through, and an NBA
season it's not. It's almost like, well, stay with me here,
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let's think outside of the box here. I know that
the playing tournament with the one off games are great,
and I the NBA Cup has had good games right
at this point, why don't we just make this eighty
two game season four different tournaments throughout the NBA in
that year, there's four different tournaments. If you win one
of the tournaments, you get a top seed in the playoffs,
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and then the rest can be figured out. Go away
with the conferences that's already been played with. You know,
the idea of getting rid of the conferences and just
make the top teams, But every you know, every month
and a half it's a tournament and then you move
on and there's four winners by the end of it. Theoretically,
maybe it's the same winner all the time. But if
you want to if it's showing to these players that
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having just like a little bit of stake to win something,
if this is what it's gonna lead to, then like
maybe you won't have tanking. Maybe they'll be a month
and a half where the Portland Trailblazers get really hot
and win one of those tournaments.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Oh then what so you would have, say the first quarter,
Oklahoma City finishes eighteen and two in their twenty games,
it's the best record of anybody in the West. They
are automatically in the playoffs, and there.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Is like a championship game for that first tournament.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Let's say, Okay, and then so they would end up
playing something you are you huh or someone else in
the West to.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
It doesn't even have to be Yeah, it doesn't have
to be East West. But I feel like this could
work four different tournaments within the NBA calendar year.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Your idea isn't crazy because what used to happen in
minor league baseball and I don't know if it still
does today. Maybe Isaac or Ryan Bersching or knows. You'd
have a first half champion of a season, and then
you would have a second half champion of the season
and that would be your final Isaac, is that correct?
Speaker 5 (09:47):
I mean it is correct, And it actually happened once
in Major League Baseball in nineteen eighty one. Applicable because
of the current threat of a workstopage in Major League Baseball.
But in eighty one there was a long strike right
in the middle the season. So when they resolved to strike,
they declared whatever teams were in first place the champions
of the first half, and they would play the champions
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of the second half in the postseason that year, and
it actually turned out to work out really well and
was actually very exciting. So it actually has happened before.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
When you end up putting something on the line, I
think is your goal of like, let's have something.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Put the line more times throughout the season, Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
But have something of value to that line. Now, Listen,
there are ways too, and I'm not saying that yours
is imperfect. I think there's ways to poke holes in everything.
You would say, what would happen if you won the
first one. What's the team supposed to do for the
rest of the sixty games. There's things to work out.
But what last night again proved is that postseason basketball
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is just a different game than regular season basketball. There
is a decent chance we see the Charlotte Hornets play
forty eight more minutes of basketball this season and then
they're done. But last night didn't matter. Maybe last night
didn't matter because of what the Charlotte Hornets have gone through,
but it's your seem Phoenix was playing their heart out
and the fans wanted that win for a team that
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not a lot was expected of heading into the season.
And here they are the seven seed, and here's Portland
coming in having their own troubles just like Charlotte has
had in the past, and Portland goes in and steals
a game and now solidifies. There was just there was
so much at stake and so much weight to it
that I just I don't know how you can replicate
that in other spots, and maybe your idea works, it
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would put some sort of weight at different points of
the season as a build up to those spots, but
it was just it felt like we compare men's and
women's basketball. They're two different games, very different. You know,
college baseball and college softball are two different sports. They're
just they're not even the same. And it almost feels
like regular season NBA and postseason NBA are just two
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different sports.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
And it's frustrating, especially this year where you and I
have sat here and discussed how early the tanking came
about from so many teams, and it's like, they're not tanking.
You mentioned this a couple of minutes ago. They're not
taking the whole game, but they'll take their foot off
the gas, and it's evident going into the fourth quarter,
like they may have kept it close, but clearly we're
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actually we're not trying to win. We're trying to see
what we've got here and play some good basketball. But
we're not trying you see it.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And that's why changes are being made because I don't
think the problem is with the teams. I think it's
the environment that you end up playing in. And the
NBA has basically told teams that the best way to
get better is to accumulate young talent. I mean, look
at Charlotte last night. Yeah, for the lineup like that
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they had, And I know that different pieces have been
brought in, But you're talking about LaMelo Ball who was
a top three pick, talking about Brandon Miller, yeah, who
was a top pick, and kon Kin Eppel top five pick.
So you've got all of these guys playing roles. But
that also means you've been picking in the top five
of the lottery and right now, Charlotte, it was good
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enough for ninth in the Eastern Conference. Yeah, and that
you know, that to me is a fault of the
NBA and trying to build it and how it's it's constructed,
and so that's something that they have to work around.
But also it's just like the NFL. Like I think
the NFL has probably about sixteen good gms, there's about
sixteen others that aren't good. Some they are saved by
good players on their teams. I don't think that the
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NBAS has thirty great general managers. I think there's probably
about ten. And figuring out ways to do it. So
you're trying to navigate all of that as well to
try to make your team a competitor. But when it
comes down to it, Matzi, last night was fun and
last at a drama. I mean, I don't think LaMelo
Ball should be penalized for the follow on bam Anebayo,
but in a way like this, this conversation. Eric Spolstro
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was ticked off about it last night, Like these are
conversations now that will carry out throughout the week of
the season.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Penalized like in the sense of being suspended for this
upcoming game. Absolutely not, or no or some sort with
you in the moment, you could have given him a
flavorant in that moment that was not a basketball play,
you know what I'm saying. But he didn't get anything,
and it just it sucks because we've seen other players
do it. And I'm stop speaking about you, Draymond Green.
(14:13):
It takes forever for you to get suspended and you
do stuff left and right. So no, you can't suspend
LaMelo Ball because other players have had similar moments. Whether
he did it on purpose or not, I don't know
if it was dirty in the sense that he was
like I am going to purposely hurt bam out of Bio.
I don't think that's what he was doing. But you
do have to be aware of what you're on the floor.
Don't go for a leg thinking like you're gonna get
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up like, I just don't move for a second. There's
commotion going above. You protect your head. He said, he
hit his head. Did you after the game? He was like,
I hit my head. I'm sorry I didn't know. So
wait a second, did you have a concussion going on?
Should we have checked on you at that point for that?
Like he said it twice, I hit my head. All right, Well,
you still need to be fully aware of what you're doing.
And so I think a flagrant foul in the moment
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was right, but he should not be suspended for the Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Think that it's a freak play. It's unfortunate that Bam
got injured. Have you ever bruised your tailbone?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It is awful, It sounds awful, it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Stinks, it's it's it hurts. It happened to me in
high school. I had to sit at a forty five
degree angle at my desk because you could not sit
down on it. Like it's it's it's super painful. And
I'm talking as a fifteen year old. I can't imagine
what falling on the on the on your back, if
that's what it ended up being for Bam and Abio.
But that's what it looked like. To me, and I'm like, oh,
if you did that like that, that's a pain that
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some people have never experienced. But I don't think the
action of Lamello was completely vicious. Donovan Klinging got a
flagrant follow last night with a hook around Dylan Brooks's
neck that I didn't even think that was bad, and
they reviewed it and said he followed through, and but
I don't think that Lamello's intense was there. And I
think the worst thing about it is that Bam got hurt,
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because there could have been a way he felt and
didn't get hurt and just up and then it's not
that big of a deal. But because Bam wasn't available
and got hurt on the play, I think we're making
the action much worse than it actually was.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Or just how he felt like right if he would
it looked like a hard fall, but it could have
been that he just trips. In fact, now everybody's pulling
up the video of him doing this to Bam two
three years ago where he was running and kind of
like went for his legs and Bam just like a
little trip and keeps going. Had that been this situation,
we wouldn't be talking about it. It's just like it
looked like a bad fall and like you said, he
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was taken out of the game. That's not what you want.
It's it's almost like the perfect storm and like the
worst way for the Heat. Also losing in overtime by
a point, you know what, Like it's you you're you
cannot not think about that. You lost your best player
and then you went literally down to the wire and
you lost it in the final second on a travel layup.
He traveled, he hopped.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Oh that allows discussion. Yes, this would have happened Tuesday,
not in a regular season. We're not caring about it.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
We're not caring about it. Absolutely. And it's also like
I think we're just also so to the Heat being
in this situation, winning, advancing, going into the postseason, Charlotte's
coming out of nowhere, and so people that adds to
the story I'm telling it was a perfect storm in
a bad way for the Heat.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
What did you think of Damian Lillard's outfit last night
on the bench.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
He looked real comfy, Like when I saw me.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
That is a great point.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
He looked real comfy.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It was a sweatsuit. Yes, Ryan Bursching, are you liked
the digs from All dameon Lillard last night.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
It is interesting when you say he looks real comfy,
because now suddenly it looks kind of like pajamas when
you think about oh.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
One thousand percent. When I saw this, I was like,
why does you look too comfy? Like you're about to
take a nap on the side.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You look like you're about to take a handoff from
a Cleveland Browns quarterback and run for eight yards. I
tweeted that he looked exactly like Nick Chubb in a
full Brown's uniform. It did. I don't know, Isaac. I
don't know if you saw it. Chris Purfett, did you
see Damian Lillard's outfit that he wore last night? I
did not, well, go tot Dan Bayer on Fox. You
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can take a look at it.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Let's go see it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's not that he wore a Nick Chubb jersey because
it didn't say Chubb twenty four on the back. I'm
sure the outfit is eight thousand dollars and it's probably
by what Valenciaga was that what you could say, you
could say something like this is uh, this is dult
jay and aaban. I don't know, it's probably thousands of dollars.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Looks more like van Housen to.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
No, it doesn't. This is high end stuff. You don't
wear a pretend football jersey and try to pull it
a uniform, not even a jersey, a uniform. It was
full set Browns and then even the stripes on the
sleeves were similar to what the Browns wore. Look.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Shake comes in here, one of our produced Shake comes.
He comes to Browns, but he comes into Browns jersey
all the time. What Dame's wearing right now? That does
not look like the Browns jerseys that Shaye wears. There's
no orange jo Are.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You kidding me? What did you want an exact replica?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
No, No, that's what I mean. But that that makes
it any want of the mouth guard as well, I'm
just saying that makes it more boutique. It's not a
Mitchell and ness here.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
On a related note, is.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
He chose to go to the game in a full
Cleveland Browns uniform or, as Monzi put it, pajamas. I
think a sweatsuit would have been worked out as well.
This was a crazy look from Damian Lillard last night.
You could see it at Dan Byron Fox.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Unfortunately, if if Shador Sanders should happen to get injured
during the course of this next season, would he show
up to a Cleveland Browns game wearing a Portland Trailblazers jersey.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Just to attract He should, he really should.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Look at this. Chris is left. Chris is out protesting.
He is leaving the studio. We can't even go to
commercial because Chris is now leaving. He is out of here.
He's called Shaye down.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, he's right here, Shay go over there.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
This is this is I'm telling you.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
When you see that does not look like Dame's jersey
at all.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But he has stripes you're talking about. Look at.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
This, it's a Cleveland like yes, and it's it's brown.
What what did you want? You wanted the NFL logo
on the neckline is that's what's missing for you? My goodness,
that is on.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
The same jersey. But it is like the comfy version.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
It looks like it's Color Rush Thursday Night Football with
the Browns.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
It might be Color Rush.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
It's got the same stripe pattern on the sleeves.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's yes, Dame Liar's Dame Lillard's been holding onto Color
Rush Jerseys, I think is the bigger story.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
So and I are coming around instead of like completely
shooting down the idea.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
No, No, I didn't say it wasn't a Cleveland one.
I think I'm saying. I'm saying, to your point, it's
a hot boutique Cleveland, Jersey.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah yeah, I know, I know. But he looks like
a Browns player. He looks like he could line up
and face the Steelers in minutes.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
He does, He's ready to go.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
I don't think he wants to fae play the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Like, uh, you know, and Nick Chubbs you know, spent
last year with the Houston Texans. But so it was
maybe throwback. I waited for camera angle to see if
there was a back number on that outfit Monci.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah name, there's a video of him getting there to
the game, Like that's the video I saw him walking.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
There wasn't. It was just it was blank on the back.
There was no name, there was no Lillard, there was
no Chubb, there was none of that on the back,
but just a and he could have worn. He could
have worn a lot of different numbers. But Nick Chubb
is someone that we've seen and that we've watched and
watched throughout the years. I mean, if he wore number six,
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maybe I would have said Brian Hoyer of the Brons,
But this just worked out so well. If he wore
seventy three, it would have been Joe Thomas. If he
would have worn ninety five, you would have known it
was Miles Garrett. Nick Chubb falls into that category. And
that's what Damian Lillard looked like last night.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
My brother Gus just said, I have to look up
what Damian Lillard wore. Yeah, that's literally what he says.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
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I had someone tell me who's in Mexico City, that
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four years later, who actually won? Who actually benefited in
all of this? And I think that the list is very,
very small. Yeah, Rory McElroy, I think that is a
great answer. I think that is a magnificent answer from
Monty Bilanos because I think you would default, well, let's
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see who benefited from Live, But I think it's the
other way around that it's Rory McElroy. And as a whole,
I would add to that the PGA Tour absolutely. Now
there is a way that you could say Phil Mickelson
in a way benefited, whether it be with the financial
that he got for playing Live. I also think that
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Phil Mickelson in a way got what he wanted, but
I don't know if he really wanted this. And by
saying that is changes were made to the PGA Tour.
And one of the comments that film made to Alan
Chipknook which kind of started this whole, you know, wildfire
of Live taking over where the comments about how Phil
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wanted the PGA Tour to make certain changes and Live
scared the PGA Tour into making changes. It is a
different looking tour than it was four years ago when
Live started, but the PGA tours survived through this, and
so Phil Mickelson in saying that changes needed to be
made to the PGA Tour were fine. You can take
that as a win. But I think ultimately we don't
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look at Phil Mickleson anywhere near like we had him
revered prior to four years ago. I mean, he was
fresh off of winning a PGA Championship in May of
twenty twenty one at Kiowa in South Carolina in his fifties,
became the oldest player to ever win a major, and
now he's kind of persona on Grada like there's he
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didn't participate in the Masters because of a family issue,
but even when he was competing in the Masters a
couple of years ago, he wasn't the focus of competition,
kind of rode off to the sunset and I think
that is reputation was damaged. So it's tough for me
to say that Phil Mickelson, well maybe right on some
of his premises, was actually a enter in all of this.
Brooks Koepka maybe could have looked at a winner. But
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there's a guy that looked at Live Golf at a
time when he needed, when he was dealing with injuries,
and then ultimately left and is now happier back on
the PGA Tour, Bryce and the Shamble maybe in a
way because he was allowed to do a lot of
other things outside of golf and he was Live's biggest star.
But I would say Rory McElroy, the PGA Tour, Anthony
Kim who revitalized his career, and for a moment, Taylor Gootch,
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she would say some crazy things, but played really golf,
are really good golf. But that was really about it.
I don't think any of the other players truly won
or benefited by joining liv Golf. Their bank accounts may
have maybe yeah, maybe they got it. Sure that's and
I'm sure there could be money still outstanding. And if
there is, I don't think you're going to see that money.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, no, no, I think you're right about Phil Michelson
is kind of like an afterthought, And he wasn't at
before this, Before all of this went down, he wasn't
an afterthought. He was one of those golfers. It's definitely
going to be discussed if you're having a discussion.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
People love that film exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
He was going to be talked about. Now he's like
an afterthought. But this whole thing, I'm not surprised this
didn't work out. I guess I thought it would last
maybe five years, so I'm a little surprised at how
quickly it all just fell apart. But they were just
trying to create something with just money. They were like,
we're gonna throw money and bring all of these top
golfers to our league, and we're gonna show you that
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just because we have the money, we can do exactly
what you've been doing over there, meaning the PGA over there.
And it's like, no, are a little bit putting lipstick
on a pig, and it just it finally came off.
It took a while, it took four years, but it's like,
none of them this isn't real. This is all fabricated.
You bought this fancy stuff, put it together, but it's
still just scotch tape.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yes, yes, that's what that.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Was with money.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That was the quality of the courses exactly like there
were some spots where Live hit in Australia, which is
a country and a continent that loves golf. There is
a strong Australian contingent that joined Live Golf. Greg Norman
obviously was one of the leaders of that. But you
got cam Smith, you got Mark Leishman, you had others
from Australia. When they would play in Australia, there would
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be great crowds. That was a bonus for them, But
anywhere here in the States, I don't think it was
a bonus at all. The quality of courses that they
played is not a bonus. John Rahm I think severely
and maybe permanently damaged his career for making the switch,
and he was one of the later switches. It was
just a couple of years ago. Then he ended up
making the switch. He was one of those who stood
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against it and then succumb to taking the money. Didn't
It was going to be a part of the TGL,
which is the indoor simulator golf that we see on
ESPN dropped out of that, and then there were rumors
always probably going to go to Live and he ultimately did,
but his game hasn't been anywhere near the same. I
don't know his pathway back to the PGA Tour. The
good thing with Cam Smith and John Rahm is that
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their games are good enough that the PGA Tour may
figure out a window to allow them back because they're
great players. But that's not going to happen to everybody.
They allowed a window for those players to come back
earlier this year if they were to agree to some
of the stipulations that Brooks Koepka agreed to, and those
players didn't, and now you're gonna be stuck in a
spot where you didn't accept that offer previously. And I
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don't know what's gonna happen with John Rahman and Cameron Smith.
Dustin Johnson still had miles in his game for how
good he was. I think Dustin Johnson's got paid handsomely,
but I don't know if we're going to see Dustin
Johnson be a factor anymore. And then there's just a
whole group of players, and a lot of them are
European players of Ian Poulter, Sergio Garcia, Lee Westwood, Graat McDonnell,
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Paul Casey, Martin Kaimer, just some of the names that
I wrote down that were guys who kind of just
went for the money because they were later in their careers,
but so their way back to the PGA Tour, the
you know, Champions Tour, if they want to play. I
don't think it's it's going to be there. So I
don't know what's going to happen to those guys. Maybe
it was all worth it for the money, but there
are very few people who actually benefited from golf or
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from live golf, and your point, Monzi, with Rory McElroy
and then the PGA Tour as a whole, that list
is very short, and it's even and shorter for the
people who are actually in live that actually benefited from
live golf.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
You said something right now that I'm still stuck on.
So you think some of these golfers went to live
the ones that were maybe thriving at one point that
their golf game went down because of the courses, the
quality of the courses that they were going.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Through, quality of the courses, quality of the play.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Around themtive, the competitive nature.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yes, the format I mean just the format. They tried
to do a bunch of different things. They tried to
formulate team golf, so you had each group having at
their own team. You would play what is a shotgun start.
Now for those that play golf know exactly what a
shotgun start is, but that's when you have a group
on every one of the eighteen holes starting at this
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right time, not at nine nine thirty, it's everybody at
noon network. Well, you just go around in a circle.
So you start at the sixteenth hole. Your last hole
of the day will be fifteen, so you'd play sixteen,
seventeen and eighteen come around, which, by the way, is
difficult to watch it. Yeah, Like from a standpoint of
you would just probably follow around the stars because they
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whereas if you were to go to a golf tournament,
you sit at eighteen, you wait for groups to play through,
watch them finish. Just very funky, very funky format.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Yeah, I don't like any of that.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
They just changed the format this year from fifty four
holes to seventy two holes. There just wasn't it wasn't there.
It didn't provide that competition that you needed, and someone
like John Ramua I think thrived off of it severely
had his game fall apart. Cam Smith won the Open
Championship in twenty twenty one, was rumored to be leaving
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for Live and ultimately did. And he really hasn't been
in contention in majors and he was a great young
talent guy who could win multiple majors. So there are
very few winners in this if you take out what
these guys got in their wallets, and it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Was and again hoping that it's already in the wallet, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, for their for their sake, they hope it is.
And a lot of them don't have a road back
because of what they did to the PGA Tour. And
so now it'll be interesting to see what the PGA
Tour accepts back and what they don't. But the life
of Live is likely soon over. She's Monty Belanhos, I'm
Dan Byer. It is Cavino and Rich here on Fox
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For the sake of whoever this gentleman is. They can't
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But save your voice.
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It's just, you know, awesome call, awesome call, but it's
like could be game one of many.
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game right now. We don't have NBA TV on, but
we do have in the studio. This has been a
(35:36):
crazy day, Manzi. I don't know if this is like
you and if your boyfriend Sean is the last one
to watch, maybe you go to bed early and you
turned the TV on to see and you see what
he was watching. Last We had at one point in here,
we had Fox Sports one, ESPN, QBC in masson On.
(35:56):
We've updated it to FS one ESPN. We've got MLB
Network and Chris, why are we watching ESPN two and
Standard DEF?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
What is the don't know where the remote is and
channels find this because sometimes when you just plug in
what is a two o nine on direct TV, it
just goes to the standard DEFF just right away instead
of doing the HDV.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We have a TV that is bracketed by two gray
bars on the side and then the picture is smaller.
Parkens back to the days of two thousand and one, like,
I don't.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Need I literally do not know where the remote is
right now.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
That was the best was when we had QVC on
for like three hours and the question is how does
it land on QVC. I know how it very carefully.
I'm guessing what happened was someone was trying to punch
into something and like maybe I don't know if QVC
is twenty two or whatever, but it was gave up. Yes,
(36:54):
but we had we could have had cheeseburger egg rolls.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
I was gonna say, maybe Chris was buying the egg rolls.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Maybe I do like egg rolls.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
You can also make a cheeseburger one as well with
an apple pie egg roll, just all egg rolls of
different flavors. You didn't think it was a great deal, though,
Ryan Bershing, or you thought you thought that some of
it was a ripoff. Sixteen eggrolls for eighty dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
That's what's in those eggs, add.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
Some Williams Sonoma Christmas catalog stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
I did take a picture of the screen earlier on
when it was cookies and you could get eighty count
of one ounce pre formed ready to bake cookie dough
for sixty dollars. That was a little bit better. Yeah,
that's a better deal.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I would say better per unit price than the sixty.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
It still sounds like a lot for a cookie that
I'm going.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
To bake out right, I will I will turn the
TV on to my son's cartoon shows that he watches,
like PBS Kids in the morming. I never want to
leave it on like Bravo, or or like Destination America,
or even just like a sports like I want. I
want if he's going to school and he's gonna eat
his breakfast and maybe watch a little cartoons before the start,
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I want it to be there, and I think that's
always important in getting the right channel.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I share YouTube TV with my mom back home in Ohio,
and sometimes when I turn it on, it's the usually
last thing they had on, So I'll get blasted with
HGTV all the time.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Hey, there's nothing wrong with that, though, there's nothing loving
some HGTV.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
I know Sean leaves it to Rick and Morty. That's
what I get to do, and not for Brody yet.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, Manzi had it on golf all weekend. She talks
about her experience with the sticks next on Fox Sports
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