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Wrapping up this juicy Aaron Rodgers story, there's a couple
of layers to Aaron Rodgers. We started by saying, should
this guy be taking snaps in the preseason or is
it just a worthless risk when you're talking about you know,
what is the preseason? A bunch of young dudes trying
to make the team. They're trying to be, you know,
player number fifty one, fifty two, fifty three on the roster,
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and here's a guy who doesn't need to practice to
play book.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
It's Aaron Rodgers. But do you want his first action
in over a year to be against.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
The forty nine ers week one on Monday Night football?
That just seems like a big, daunting second.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
But nobody knows better than him and the team.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And then the other juicy Aaron Rodgers nugget is a
book is coming out where they talk about the decade
where he didn't talk to his parents and his parents
ed and Darla Rogers.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I made you know, I'm Darla, uh.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Blaming it on Olivia Munn, his ex girlfriend, saying that
she got in the middle of the family.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's it's sticky and unfortunate.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The story was that she would talk about their sex
life publicly, and you know, it wasn't like like I said,
in great detail, there's references. It's not like she was
on call her daddy right exactly. It's like I'm gonna
tell you said like my bow. They also had issues
because they're very religious, and that's fine and we respect that,
but come on, Olivia would make references or talk about
(02:15):
how they shared a bed because it was public knowledge
they'd be sharing a bed, they'd be staying in hotels together,
and the family had an issue with that. So, even
though they're entitled to having their beliefs and their views,
it's a little unrealistic for a professional NFL player in
today's world, you can't share a room with his girlfriend.
(02:38):
I think problem on the parents. What's up, Joel?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I want to hear Rich finish the sentence, always says
a young lady who doesn't get along with his mother
or sisters. How long before Rich cuts them off? And
how many more visits?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I'll tell you what. My dad only one time in
my life?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh my dad, Oh, Rich's father, Hey, Joel, nice to
meet you. My dad, Greg, my dad only one time
in my life. Rich's dad looks like Mick Jagger by
the way my dad looks. My dad looks like Mick
Jagger and Vince mick Man like sort of all me.
So my dad one time came up to me and
he goes, oh, Richie, I go, Yeah, Dad, listen, I'm
(03:22):
not saying I don't like the girl you're with, but
if you marry her, your life's going to be difficult.
Just know she's very good looking. But if you marry
this girl, I promise you, it's a pain in the ass.
You need to dance your way into life. Like your father.
So Rich's dad's a big party guy, so of course
you know he doesn't want anyone telling him what to do.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, my dad's like this.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I don't let anybody tell me I can't party and
play ping pong whenever I want.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Think every holiday, every get together, whether it's your parents
live in your neighborhood or across the country, what you
don't want is your family and the woman you love
to hate each other. And Aaron Rodgers, you know he
didn't end up with a living What is Aaron Rodgers
supposed to do in that situation? Find someone to appease
his mom who has crazy expectations and like I said,
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they're entitled to them. They're nice, whatever, but it's just
not conducive. It doesn't fit into today's world, especially when
you're dating a Hollywood person who is a public figure
and you're a professional NFL player. And like I said,
it's just chalking up to generational differences and it's never
ever easy. Like I was married to a woman who
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had today expectations, right, and I had my parents who
were just being good grandparents.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And what do grandparents do?
Speaker 3 (04:43):
They love to spoil little kids, right, So when I
became a dad, my grandf my dad, my daughter's grandfather, Hey, hey,
give us some give her a nice pop. And they
would give her like flavor ice or something stupid from
the fridge that we would eat growing up. But my
modern day ex wife, ex wife ex is important in
the story. Wouldn't be like, hey, tell your parents to
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stop giving my kid all this trash. And I'm the
idiot in the middle, like Aaron Rodgers thinking, oh, my
parents are just being nice grandparents, but they're giving them
like you know, what do they call those rocket pops?
You know, Hey, my daughter's two years old, they're giving
her rocket pops. She doesn't eat rocket pops. She eats
foofy all natural organic ice pops because we live in LA,
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you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Like, so when you're dating a new age.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Girl who survived that, who survived that situation. Yeah, my parents,
because they're my parents. But if you want to be realistic,
if it was up to my mother and I went
by my mother's standards, I'd be dating a woman who
wore a bonnet every day.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, I met this woman from the prairie. Mom, Are
you happy? You know, like, come on.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
The little house on the prairie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And meanwhile, my mom wants to give the kid, you know,
flavor ice and and all the crap sugar that we
had growing up. And again, I don't chunk that up
to who's right or who's wrong. You see what I'm saying.
I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong. I think people
need to respect each other and and just accept that
there's going to be generational differences. And the gap between
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an Olivia Munn and ed in Darla give me a break,
edon Darla. I haven't met at Darla since nineteen twenty something.
And in Darla, the generational differences are just too much.
So the parents are at fault because they're pointing fingers
at Olivia. Aaron chose to not talk to his parents
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for ten more years. I'm not trying to take sides here,
But it seems to me that the parents were more
difficult than Lilivia.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I'm on edon Darla's side. Really, in my family, they
were to pulled up. What do you mean calling my
mama house? Yeah, oh no, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
But for all we know, Aaron Rodgers told her to.
We don't know. Hey, they would have put it up
on him too. It's good juice. Yeah, hey, And again,
don't blame us, blame the parents. We didn't write this
supid book. You know what.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Let's go to your feedback Terry in Mississippi. What's up, Terry?
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Okay, I promise not to curse. Okay, Well, your guys
are on their man cave, my man cave.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Anyway, I had to reverse and there was a good
seg but that came into this. Uh my parents, my mother,
and my sister, and my brother's wife and my best
friend and his wife. Those all hated my girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
But then guess what.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
If you just need but I found out I found
out afterwards, I broke up with her and now married
to the girl that I broke up with her for.
But uh, anyway, you know, after the fact, they're like Dade,
we hated her.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I mean sometimes people just you know, you know, fake
the funk to make you happy.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But I think a lot of times, have everyone in
your life.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
If if I was a single guy and I brought
someone new around, and Cavino, Danny, my parents, my friends
didn't like the girl, eventually you'd be like, you know,
it's probably not.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
The right person.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
But hey, that's for Aaron Rodgers to decide, and he did.
They're not together the end. And again the other layer
is should he play in the preseason, And I think
that's also up to him, But I I can't see
it being the wisest idea to take your first snap
looking across the line of scrimmage into the eyes of
Fred Warner and then you look to your right and
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you're like, oh, there's Nick Bosa, and it's it's gonna
be wild to think that that's the first snap he
takes on the road San Francisco week one.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So Aaron Rodgers all over the.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
News today, and I have one last thing to say
about it too. I wished them both greatness. You know,
we're happy for Olivia. I mean that, you know, you
awkward because you know, through the years you get to
know these people. I wished him greatness. She's a happy
mom now she's in a great place. I wish you're
the best. Same with Aaron Rodgers's.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Jama Laney Ah, Jama Lanney.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I'm not talking smack about Rogers's parents, but who's
the one exploiting their son with this story in the
book right now? Just saying, you know, if that doesn't
sound right to me, kind of parents do that? So
it sounds like a like a again generational difference there
that tore the family apartment.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
They're blaming Olivia.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I had another thought, and you know what we're talking
about being with the right person. Perfect segue, like your
favorite mode of transportation, segue, lamest, perfect segue into marriages
in the NFL, not with women. I guess you gotta
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look at a coach and a quarterback as the ultimate
marriage in sports. I can't think of another relationship in
any sport that is more important than head coach quarterback.
Think of it Baseball, best one. You can't say Brady Belichick.
They had a good run, but they ended.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Up, but you know, success ended up breaking up.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
You can't even say Bill Walshmontan And because towards the
end he favored Steve Young.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Listen, they won together. That's the way you gotta look.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You could say, Andy Reid, Mahomes, nothing's gone wrong yet,
But think of every other sport. Yeah, NBA coach and
star players important, pitching coach with a staff in Major
League Baseball, there's important relationships. But I think nothing is
more important than the chemistry and being on the same
page and the same game plan as a head coach
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in the NFL and his quarterback. In fact, you could argue,
not even argue, you can make it a solid fact
that a coach will live and die based on what
quarterback he quote marries. Andy Reid was with Donovan McNabb
never quite got there. You looked at that as a
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solid matchup, solid marriage, so to say, didn't go anywhere.
Alex Smith, Yeah, they were pretty good together. But he
then said, Mahomes, Alex Smith, I'm sorry, you don't get
a row a second. So, based on your analogy, if
Andy Reid is now married to Mahomes, right.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, Andy, you're stealing all the covers. Marren to
put the seat down when you're done.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That means that McNabb was just a piece of ace
along the way I mean, until.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You five that one, maybe you can look at it
that way.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
My point is, when you look around the NFL, there
was one marriage that stood out to me because if
you're gonna call every head coach in the quarterback of.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Marriage, it is I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
You gotta look at the Miami Dolphins as a ooh,
is this the marriage that Mike McDaniel anticipated. He seems
to like to I feel like the Dolphins gave two
of the contracts. McDaniel and Tua seem like they're on
the same page. You got Waddle, you got Tyreek, Kelly
got the weapons, and you could say, Mike McDaniel will be.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, when all said and done, how he is
as a head coach will be remembered based on the
success of Tua.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, but there's two ways to look at this. I'm
waiting for you to get at it. If they win,
it clearly was the right choice. But if you marry
the wrong person in the NFL, let's say you're you're
a head coach, you take on, you take on a job,
and you never truly have that franchise quarterback. I don't
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know if that's a reflection of who you really are
as a coach because you never found the one. If
you find the one and can't win, then that's sort
of on you. But Mike McDaniel I respect a lot.
I'm a Niners fan, as you know, so I liked
watching him come up under Shanahan and I like his vibe,
his sarcasms. Sort of a peculiar guy. But who doesn't
like Mike McDaniel. Danny G you're an AFC guy, a
(12:52):
Raiders fan, but you gotta even respect Mike McDaniel is fun.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And yeah, in season Hard Knocks last year was an
awesome watch.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
You're you're questioning if Mike McDaniel married the wrong preser,
possibly have made a mistake by marrying quote unquote marrying Tua,
because I ask you if if you're Mike McDaniel and
you have Tyreek Hill. But then again, you're placing blame
all on the quarterback and you're putting no accountability on
the coach here. Who's to say that coach was the
greatest coach just because the quarterback didn't seem to deliver.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It goes both ways. It takes two to tango or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I agreed, but it takes two to make a thing
go right. I know the song. So from your perspective,
you're like, oh, Andy Reid married the wrong Maybe Andy
Reid wasn't coaching that great back then, Oh Mike McDaniel
married the wrong quarterback. Maybe Mike McDaniel's not that great
of a cop. I mean, look at I mean you
don't know that. I said football is the number one example,
but look at the NBA. You know, Phil Jackson look
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like a genius when he had Michael Jordan. Yeah, but
Phil Jackson looked like a genius when he had Kobe
and Shack when he was like heading up the Knicks
later on. That's what Dave Portnoy was saying about Steve
Kerr recently. Did you hear that he went off on
Steve Kerr because he wasn't playing Tatum and all that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
He like, think about it, who hit gold harder than
this guy?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
So all of his winning had to do with someone
quote unquote greater or greater leading the way. So when
you talk about marriages in the NFL, yeah, like Danny,
you your team's dealing with this right now, Like Antonio
Pierce is getting a real shot if the leash is short,
so to speak, and Gardner Minshew doesn't, you know, live
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up to what you're thinking he could do and keep
them competitive. If that goes on for too many years,
Antonio Pierce ends up not being the guy. Like you
almost want to walk into a situation where you find
your match. Now it's not your match. What you're describing
is like a gold digging coach. If you want to
compare to a relationshiphip.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
In your analogy, he's dating Gardner Minshew, who's like a
wild you know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Man that maybe you don't marry that type of person.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
No, no, but Rich isn't really giving credit to the
balance of the relationship. He's saying that a coach needs
to marry a quarterback who's going to make the coach
look good like the trophy coach, like Trophy White.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Rich.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Maybe the partner that everybody around that person is questioning
turns out to be the one.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Listen, it very well could be.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
But I want to go through just meaning is easy
to look like a good coach when you have a
superstar quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
That doesn't mean you're a great coach.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
No, it does, because it means you're a great coach
if you could turn someone average into a great quarterback.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And as mister the great mister Miyagi said, no such
thing as bad's student, bad teacher. It's you gotta you're
not being fair to you know, toward the quarterback here.
I can never argue a Miyagi quote, how dare you?
But there there is something to be said about whether
it's true or not. Coaches are remembered and it's not
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because of who they were tied to. I just said
the Phil Jackson thing. No one ever says, oh Phil
Jackson stunk. He just had Jordan Lebron and Kobe people
like Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, these guys, you know they
married the right people. I'm gonna go around the league.
Just appease me for a second. I want you to
tell me. I'll name a quarterback. You tell me, would
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Mike McDaniel be better off with this quarterback or to Yeah,
but all you're saying is is this quarterback better Did
Mike mcdanids use a greater quarter Well? Hey, how about
he worked with the talents that he's given and make something.
They decided to pay to it because Mike McDaniel said,
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I believe they wouldn't have given two of the money
they gave him if they didn't think and Mike McDaniel
didn't say, yeah, I could win with this guy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I know that. But if you say Mike McDaniel, all
right now, Joe Burrow, you're like, yeah, well, Joe Burrow's great.
Of course he's gonna make Mike McDaniel look good.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, but I'm saying he Mike McDaniel went to management,
I'm sure, and said I could do it with you.
I could do it with too. I liked I like
what he has, right, Yeah, so by doing that, I
could work with this. By doing that, you're pretty much
saying he's my guy, I'm quote marrying him. Now, let
me let me hit you up with some teams and quarterbacks.
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It's really do you think that they invested in the
wrong quarterback here? That's what we're asking eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Let's let's go.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Let's go through the AFC first, and it's gonna be
two or this guy. Would Mike McDaniel be better off
Aaron Rodgers? No, you would take two over Aaron Rodgers today. Yeah,
because of the longevity. You want a franchise guy. I think,
so what would you go? Josh, And he's a major
question mark. You just spent the whole hour like we
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have new You need him to take a snap Josh Allen. No, yeah, Josh,
you're taking Josh. Of course, you're not taking Drake May.
You're not the Patriots off their dared Joe Burrow. Yeah,
you take Joe Burrow. Lamar Jackson, Yeah, take Lamar Jackson.
Sean Watson, Yes, yeah, I don't know about that. Well, okay,
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I mean I heard he's lighting it up. Let's uh,
let's Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, Will Levis, and that probably not.
I saw me, Lawrence. I saw something. You're gonna not
be able to unsee this. Trevor Lawrence. Looks like the
love child. This is like a real early two thousands reference.
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So bear with me, Trevor Lawrence, early two thousands. Let
me put on my von Dutch hat, put on your
bron Dutch hat, and picture this. E Founco Oka of
the Sopranos and Furio remember Furio from the Sopranos. Oh yeah, Trevor,
Laura would be there if they had a ma if
Furio had an affair with Tony Soprano's wife. You would
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get Trevor Lawrence. Right, So we hit up the AFC North.
They were up to four teams Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence, that's five,
C J Stroud six. I'm taking Richardson over toa.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Are you that's questionable? Small sample size?
Speaker 3 (19:25):
But yeah, not Denver, even though you know, looking good
out there, all right, Mahomes obviously eight Justin Herbert nine.
Sorry Danny Raiders not so you're talking about nine guys
in the AFC you would take over to.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's just the AFC.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Did Mike McDaniels marry the wrong person, Your thoughts, your feedback.
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seven ninety nine on Fox, Rich is tying Mike McDaniels
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and to into a marriage analogy. Did he choose the
wrong woman? Did he choose the wrong quarterback? Did he
make a mistake? You pulled the Griffin Griffith, Oh, I
said McDaniels. McDaniel, I always have to think about Griffin
and Griffith the same way.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's like, is it Peter Griffith Griffin? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:42):
And you guys gotta remember Josh McDaniels with an ash
and Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
No, no, s at the end, Dy, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Even joking you ever before I say Mike McDaniel every time,
for a split second, I say in my head Josh McDaniels,
because I know he's the opposite. Honestly, it's like, is
it Kathy Griffin or Griffith Griffith, Yeah, Kathy Griffith. No,
it's Peter Griffin, Blake Griffinth grif No, it's Blake Griffin.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Blake Griffin.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Well, you and you want to talk about somebody who
chose the wrong marriage partner, Josh McDaniels GM. At the time,
Dave Ziggler wanted to trade up, had to trade in
place to go up to number two to take CJ. Stroud,
who overruled it Josh McDaniels AH instead spent all that
money on Jimmy Garoppola.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I think it's too early, man, the whole story's not
written yet, and I think it's unfair. You know, did
Don Shula marry the wrong quarterback. I would say, no,
what because they never won?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Like you're talking greats here. I'm not saying Tua's Dan Marino,
but I'm saying it's too early to say. And if
you're that great of a coach, you make something out
of this dude and you can't put it all on
he married the wrong guy. Maybe this quarterback married the
wrong coach. Also, he's saying it goes two ways. What
city and situation, which quarterback is in rich? The chemistry?
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How much control?
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Like with a powers chart, if you take a coach
and a quarterback, maybe that coach needs x amount of
power in the relationship or decision making. And you don't
know if that coach would work well with another quarterback
just because he's a star in another series.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You're absolutely right, Like that's the big Brock Party argument, right,
like he works with Shanahan. Well, now, if Brock Party
was playing under you know McCarthy in Dallas, would.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Brock Purty be the Brock Party?
Speaker 3 (23:29):
We know, I don't know, But you got a question,
did Mike McDaniel make the right decision? We'll see this
year because you know they were a team that. I'm
pretty sure the Dolphins were three games up in that
division and ended up becoming a wild card.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They got hit with a lot of injuries. How would
you apply to the Jim Kelly.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I mean Jim Kelly and Levy with you know, they
just they fell shot four times just playing better teams.
I'm saying when you look at Tua and Mike McDaniel,
I think it's the problem with with the expectations in
the NFL. It's like super bowler bus a super bowler
bust mentality. You're not letting players in chemistry with coaches
and quarterbacks time to develop, you know. It's that uh,
(24:14):
it's that old adage of the guy's a loser until
the band makes it. Hey if and when too it
makes it. Yeah, you don't know, the story's.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Not over yet.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's too premature. That's just the mindset we have now
because you're like, oh, he's terrible, he's over getting at it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean, I mean, you say, what is how old
is he?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's an interesting like Doug Peterson now could say, yeah,
if I can't get anything done, I have Trevor Lawrence,
which at one point was considered a generational guy, so
you US twenty six, you could look at certain combos
of head coach, quarterback and you could say to yourself,
did they partner up with the right person.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I'll pay you a compliment, dude.
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We've been doing the show for almost twenty years between
Serious X and ESPN now here at Fox Sports. Like
you and I complimented each other's co hosts. If you
had some other co hosts might have fell flat after
like two years. You need that right without Rich.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You need that right chemists to compliment to me.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
He just said, if I had another right, I'm gonna
compliment you if you had another co.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Host because again, because again Rich Covino can ride with you.
You guys balance each other out. There's a good chance, though,
that you could have got paired up with somebody where
there was a power struggle that happens with a lot
of duos and teams on the radio, where they're fighting
over ideas and creativity and all that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What's kept your longevity going.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, honestly the fact that we have the same silence,
Daniel side the balance, and we have the same goals,
and honestly we agree that neither one of us ever
makes more money than the other like we we do
our contract together.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
You're right, there's a lot of radio or TV duos
that fall apart, and you could compare that the balance.
But we already said there are nine quarterbacks in the
AFC that you would take over to. So Mike McDaniel
better see something that maybe we all don't see.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Maybe he's I.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Think he's this grand guru of the NFL, this this
wise coach, and I'm sure he made a pretty good
decision that suits him. I mean, so by by questioning this,
you're really questioning his decision making.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And isn't that what coaching is all about? Who is
a winner?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Alabama guy, Mike McDaniel came from the Kyle Shanahan school,
So I you know what, I'm not talking out of
both sides of my mouth.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I'm just saying, perhaps you're speculating. I'm just not buying it.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I'm just speculating, saying it's you can't put it all
on Tua. Maybe Mike McDaniel really believes that Tua is
the guy to orchestrate the system he has with Waddle
and Tyreek Kill and all that, and he's saying he's
the guy because if we just said, well, there's nine
quarterbacks just alone in the AFC D have we not
seen ready, just for the sake of argument, have we
not seen coaches do a hell of a lot more
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with a lot less? Didn't Nick Foles just retire? Would
you take Nick Foles or Tua? On paper? Hear you
say on pay per NFC is a little more scarcer quarterback.
So that was a little leading because in the NFC East,
I would take two over.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
That.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Now I want to take them over DK, but I
would you take them over John Jaylen can't say Mike
McDaniel made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Hey, maybe maybe Tua is thinking I made a mistake
with McDaniel.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That's my point, Like, we've seen coaches do more with
less and the guys twenty six and for all we
know they will find.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
This magic together.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Just to say it's a mistake, it's just a way
of thinking that we have today. Whereas grand opening grand clothes,
you know, I let it develop a bit, believe it
or not. Other than my forty nine ers, I don't
root against the Dolphins. I have a bunch of friends
that are Dolphins fans, and I like Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't dislike to or.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
So you know, as far as AFC teams, I don't
mind the Dolphins doing good. I think when the Dolphins
are good, it's good for football. But if you go
to the NFC, now you could just keep piling on
the quarterbacks that you would take over to it. And
I'm not trying to be rude, but I go to
the North. Would you take Jordan Love Yes? Would you
take Jared Goff?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Then again your question, well, how much time do you
give it? And time is a flying Would you take
Caleb Williams Yes, this is his fifth year. You wouldn't
take well jj JJ McCarthy's out. Now you want to
you want to take well he leaves, he leaves the
forty nine.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
I for Fred his name, oh Sam Darney Donald, I
mean the Viking starter.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Viking star. You want to take? You want to take Baker,
make Kirk Cousins coming off an injury. So I think
I just feel like Rich with the Dolphins to his
definition of the middle of the pack is what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
But their imbalance right now, you could argue is the
salary cap reasons they had to let go of some
of their main defensive pieces, some of their stars or yeah,
Christian Wilkins, Raiders, Robert Hunt Panthers, Xavian Howard. They lost
a free agent. He's a free agent out right now.
I think Baker free agent. So the Dolphins right now,
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the imbalance is their defense. They're they're loaded on offense.
They have weapons, all.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Right, Listen, I know we have conversations every day the
same like Dan or Colin or Rob Parker or Doug.
And by the way, you're saying about the balance. Look,
Tua took a lot of big hits. Blame the line.
I'm just gonna say one thing and we'll move on.
We'll take some feedback. I'm not saying I'm breaking at
the receipts. But hold on. Actually I know where to
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find the receipt Let me go to my wife's car.
Let me go to your girlfriend's car. There's somebody ever
seats some water bottles everywhere. If you go to my
kitchen counter right now, you'll find eight hundred receipts.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Here's one that.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
My girlfriend's collecting for some reason, next to her box collection.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Rich What makes that? What makes that marriage work? In
your in your.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Winning, that's it's here's what in Rich's analogy, and I'm
not saying he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
It's great speculation right in his analogy.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
What makes his relationship work is if Tua was the
trophy wife, if he was such a superstar, are that
he won and just made McDaniel look good? You know,
said the team effort instead of accountability on both ends.
You It's like, uh no, now I'm gonna sound vain.
I was gonna say. It's like it's like marrying someone
and then you fast forward, it's like, yo, do they
still look good?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Are they successful? Are they a good wife or husband? Like?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
You know, it's like, you got to see how this
works out long term. I'm gonna say one thing and
we'll move on. I don't need to, don't. I'm not
trying to trash the Dolphins. I don't hate on them,
but I do believe. A week ago, on our afternoon
show here in Fox Sports Ready, we talked about what
NFL teams that made the playoffs this year won't make
it this year, teams that made it last year that
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won't make it this year. And the first team you,
Steve Cavino said, was the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I said, too many questions marks you said, you
said the Jets will take a step forward.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Buffalo still got Josh Allen or for someone said Donalds.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, there's a major turnover, and who makes it? Who
does it? In order for someone to step up, someone's
gonna have to step down.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, So you make the playoffs a couple of years
in a row, then then you're on the hot seat.
But I'm not saying that all the blame goes to
the quarterback, you know what I mean. I'm saying that
the coach has to take accountability. But like Danny said,
you lost a lot of key defensive guys. Why because
you didn't have the money? Because you paid to.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And by the way, Jerome Baker, I thought it was Seattle.
He wound up signing with the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Okay, okay, let's go to Jason in Alabama. We'll wrap
it up with him and then we'll talk some flag football.
And I do want to talk about Vince Vaughan. Today's
what's going on, man, Jason?
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Hey, how you guys are doing. We're good, all right,
So I'll start right. I am a Dolphin fan, so
to get a little biased, but there's a lot of
Tua hate over here. I mean made a little too
much for me.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Let's try it. Man, you know honestly convinced me. Go ahead,
let's hear it.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
The guy led the league past the yards. Okay, and
we're gonna take Trevor Lawrence who lost the last five
games of the season, and Baker Mayfield, who I mean,
he's a bigger, decent quarterback. They didn't leave the league
in passing yards. I mean everyone, you could take some guys.
I'll think maybe Burrow I think might be a better
than to a I'll say that as a Dolphins fan,
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I think Burrow might be better than to do it.
I mean, obviously Mahomes is going to be better. I
think Lamar Jackson is better. And also I think another
thing I want to point out is that the Mike
McDaniel offense is it's even though it's true he's you know,
he's very smart than all that, but he's done a
lot of like he needs that type of guy to
fit to fit the fit the bill, I guess you
could say, and even if maybe a different quarterback might
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be better than to insurance talents, but to run the
Mike McDaniel offense, I think he felt he needed a
guy who was very accurate.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You know what, Right, you could compare a guy. You
could compare it to Purdy and Kyle Shanahan. Where where
Party is a really smart quarterback and he's accurate, and
that might fit Kyle Shanahan's system more than a genuinely
talented guy, right Rock Party might fit you know, there's
your analogy.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Sell. I think that guy was calling from the halls
of the Dolphins. Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
On the house phone, Jason, that was I mean, aside
from the quality of your crappy phone, it was a
great call.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I appreciate it. No, thank you, buddy, thank you, appreciate you.
All right, So we'll talk some Gilbert Arenas in a
little bit. I'm very curious what you think of this.
It has to do with men giving up something that
they've had the control over forever, that men have lost
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all control and everything flag football. There's a Vince Vaughn
story I want to get to. So and of course
midweek major your big headlines in the world of sports
and entertainment, that's all coming up coming on rich In
for the Great Dan Patrick Live from the Mercedes Benz Studio.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I wanna thank you guys for all the feedback. Shout
out to the Dan Patrick listeners. Appreciate you guys embracing
us that Dan Patrick Hatrick always a pleasure and Rich
anything you miss at Covino and Rich always uh hit
us up. In fact, you know what, go to Instagram
(34:14):
right now, give us a follow, say what's up?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, bitch Davis at Steve Cavino very interactive. Have you
hit us up? I promise you.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, I'm responding right now. Hold on to Max Axel,
who really loves us right now.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
Hey, Rich, I hope you had a Will Smith kind
of night three for four for the Dodgers who are
suddenly hot after you know something there for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Feel like I did it, Danny g. I feel like
I lit a little fire into the kind of did yeah,
because I came in last week and I'm like, yo,
right before our very eyes, the Padres and Diamondbacks are
both right on your tail. And then the Dodgers like, no, no,
I'm not so fast. We're the Dodgers. They're getting a
little healthier day by day. And listen, come September October,
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that's all that matters anyway, Right, you could win eighty
five games or a hund in five games, and.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
Yeah, you see all those smiles when Bets came back.
Contagious type player, Mookie Bets.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I was listening to Colin on my way home yesterday,
and he makes a pretty convincing argument. Stars stars, stars
attract other stars.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Colin made a great point, and you can't argue that
trust your eye.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, oh Tani, Aaron Judge, these guys are your m
VT MVP type of guys. But you could argue that
Mooki Bets is the best player in Major League Baseball,
like athletically, everything about He said that Mookie Bets and
he could bowl his ass off. I got to give
the herd credit. He's just an all around great ass.
He's a great fellow.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Our dude.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Colin called Mookie Bets a six tool player because if
you include his personality and smile, like, the guy just
brings it all. Seriously, you know, it's when you get
a good player. And this sort of goes along with
the Mike McDaniel to a thing. It's really a matter
of who you permanently link yourself to, right who you've
given that big contract to. The Bust and Red Sox,
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who were not only competitive, they they were winning World
Series every it felt like every four to five years
in the two thousands, they were winning one. They dropped
the ball by not committing to Mookie Bets, like if
you had an option opportunity, like the fact that they
let him slip away in a trade for really nothing.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's not like he was some troublemaker. Who Yeah, I mean,
he's the guy you want to build a team around.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, they got Devers and other stars, but you could stars,
but you could argue by letting Mookie Bets get away,
the Red Sox set themselves back a while that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, that was the superstar they needed for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, that's why when I was again talking to one
of our other buddies here at Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker,
he was saying, how Mets fans that don't like Pete Alonzo,
there's something to be said about do Mets fans really
think that it's easy to just snag a guy that
hits forty to fifty home runs? Every year, like they
just grow on trees, like yo, Pete Alonzo unless he's
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gonna break the bank, don't grow on trees. It's it's true, though,
you're right, like every Mets fan is. I have met
fan friends that are like, yeah, get rid of them.
It's like, get rid of pet A Lonzo.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Yeah for who? And then get who? Serious?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I get it he bats two forty two fifty, But
who doesn't in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Right? If you really good in twenty twenty thirty, you know,
and you're hitting bombs like him.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I remember when we were kids, if you batted under
two seventy, it was like, ugh, scrub.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Now it's like that didn't even want your baseball card.
I said, under two eighty.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
You don't bet it like that in the eighties, like
Rich bad in two seventy in the softball league.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Oh I'm bad.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I bat it seven seventy, y'all. When you hope so
of those lollipop pitches you.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
When you were in the if you bat it.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I remember met shortstop Rafael Santana. He was the scrub
in my mind because he batted like two thirty six
or two forty, and he barely hit home runs. And
again he never hit a whole run, so he was
he was more of a defensive guy. Yeah, sick fielder.
But now if you got a home run hitter and
he hits over two fifty, hold Imson you can yeah,
that's a treasure. Did you see Kyle Schwarber who last
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year I found didn't he aboul like one ninety.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
He's bad, He's you know, hitting better this year. I
think he's hitting like two days.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Just how the game is playing, that's just how it is.
Batting average doesn't matter anymore, it's outdated. Now we've been
talking a lot about relationships today, I mean all hand
in hand and you know, sports relationships. Mike McDaniel, did
he choose the right quarterback? Did he make a mistake?
Is this a good marriage? Well, speaking of marriage, Gilbert Arenas,
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Oh boy, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
His fiance? Well? Yes, now, well, you know what, here's
the part of the story.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Don't buy into the headline, because the headline is his
fiance proposed to him, and he said it got him
feeling like a battye. He made him feel like the man. Yo,
I'm such the man. I'm such a catch. He proposed
to me, but it was weeks after he proposed to her,
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so she sort of returned the gesture like, Yo, you know,
I get to do this too, But do you have
a problem in that?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Does that water down?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
You know, the original gesture? Here here's my thoughts, Yes,
here's my thoughts. He Joe says, yes, old school Like, yo, man,
I already asked to perhaps listen. I'm all about everyone
having equality. I'm about everyone getting the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I try to adapt to every change. Really, you know,
reason to adapt every change. I just want to hear
out the reasoning I just said reasonable. You're open to
I am open to reasonable change, right, right? You have
to be right, yes, or else you get left behind,
You become a dinosaur, you become obsolete. Not not every
not every quote. Not every change is good. Not every
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change in the quote. Well, culture is a good one, right,
but but you try to make the adjustment sure when
it's you know, based in this and love and all
the right things.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Right. I want everyone, let me make this clear, to
have the same opportunities at work and in life. Men.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Women, I feel like a big butt gay straight whatever
you whatever your deal is, I feel like there's a
big butt.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I love big, but Kardashian butt coming here right now.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
There's a Kardashian butt, but there's some Kardashian back it up,
Back up, juvenile, back that thing up.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
The big butt is.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
There's one thing I can't get behind, and that is
women proposing to men. If that enters our society, you're
gonna see the weirdest relationship dynamics. It's like the one
old school thing that has that touch or tradition that
I enjoy, which is which is, I'll accept it.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
How would you feel?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
How would you feel if you went home today, Yeah,
and your girlfriend of seven years.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Was like, Steve, will you marry me? I feel like
she's taking control of the situation.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
You know what I'm going to tell you, said that
Steve is waiting for you, you know, which I feel
like because we're not used to being in that.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Side of the dynamic.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
You know, where the where the where the aggressors, the hunters,
the predators.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
That's just us by nature. So it's not a good watch,
you know, Yeah, it's not. That's not what I meant.
You know, I hate this conversation.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
I hate you your thoughts about women proposing to men.
We'll get to that, and of course some NFL fun next.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
See you on