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Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres in for C&R as they cover all of the angles to the magical night at Dodger Stadium where Clayton Kershaw reached career number 3,000 in strikeouts.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
All Right, history of the books. We are on the
eve of the fourth of July. That means erin Torres.
It is July third. Welcome in happy pre independent state
of you. Erin Torres.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Great to be here, Great to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, you know, listen, it's crazy because you know, for
us we're on air, but for so I know how
many hundreds of thousands of people are on the road
right now, if not even more so. Yeah, we're taking
till seven Eastern. Try to keep you entertained, try to
have some fun along the way, and.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
We're gonna have some fun. Iowa Sam is here hanging out.
Hey guys, Hello, Iowa Sam. I am right.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
And that high of that Dodger game last night.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wow, I'll tell you're not the only one. Jason Stewart
is as well. Hello, Everybunday And we know Monty Belanos
is feeling that she was there last night.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, all right, welcome in. It is can be an order.
It's here on Fox Sports Radio. Big thanks to the
camera crew as well, Dave Chuck, Paul Smitty and Timmy
over there. Appreciate you guys. Have a great, great extended weekend.
Number three thousand. Clayton Kershaw a member of the three
thousand strikeout club. It was a bit of history and

(01:34):
last night after the Dodgers coming back and scoring three
runs in the bottom of the ninth to help me
in my survivor pool and help Jason Stewart and his
survivor pool as well. It was a magical night at
Dodger Stadium because it was history and it's now Aaron
Torres being brought into question on how often are we
going to see this history of three thousand strikeouts? But

(01:55):
we saw it last night with Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
We did.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It was a special moment I think makes it obviously
especially special and maybe this is a little bit of
our bias living here in Los Angeles doing it with
one team, you know, I mean third guy, I believe
ever to do it with one team through three thousand strikeouts,
and I think the arc of his career. You know,
obviously young, dynamic superstar into one of the best pitchers

(02:21):
in baseball. We know about the ups and downs in October,
and I think that even going into like last year's postseason,
I didn't realize how much he meant to this city
and that organization until of course that parade ends in
Dodger Stadium, he's welcomed. Do you realize how long he's
been with the organization, You realize how much he's accomplished,
And then, of course maybe the greatest accomplishment individually was

(02:45):
last night.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I also like this about Clayton Kershaw getting strikeout three thousand,
and you're going to be hearing it throughout the show.
You're going to hear it in a second. But I
like it because Clayton Kershaw is a good guy. Sure,
And I know that seems like a general sort of
statement and one that seem a bit phony or maybe
possibly be false, because we don't really know who these

(03:06):
players are because he's been around so much, because of
what we've seen him go through, because we've seen so
much of his career, and you mentioned us being in
southern California, I feel like we do have a sense
of that.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Sure, sometimes at some point.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
You understand, all right, maybe not the greatest dude in
the world, but the guy wins. And we've talked about
that with many different athletes throughout the spectrum, but we've
also talked about other athletes, like we could talk about
Clayton Kershaw and for all intents and purposes, everything that
I know, everything that he's exhibited, what he's done on

(03:42):
the field, what he's done off the field, is a
good guy, a really really good guy, maybe in a
two percenters club of good guys when it comes to
professional athletes. That's what I also loved last night, was
that opportunity for Clayton Kershaw to be celebrated like that,
because we also honestly don't know on how many times

(04:02):
he will be celebrated again. I think last year's World
Series title would be different if they win it again,
even if he has a role in it. This year.
There was something different about the twenty twenty four championship.
Maybe it was coming off COVID, maybe it was because
of his injury history and whatnot, But you said, just
the response of Clayton Kershaw at the parade and rally

(04:24):
of the response that he got from told you everything
you needed to know about him as a Dodger. But if,
even if he has a role in it, I think
there's going to be something different than it was last year.
But last night felt like because it was about him
and him only, it wasn't a Dodgers team thing that
the Dodgers fans got an opportunity to celebrate that. I
do want to bring in Manzi and Jason's here as well,

(04:47):
and I was Sam, but Monzi was at the ballpark
last night. Was it also Yamamoto Bobblehead night? Yes?

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Well yes, so that's the real reason that I needed
to be there was because of how busy it was
going to be. But then the Clayton Kershaw landing on
three strikeouts away made everything extra crazy.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Gates opened early without them making the.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Announcement because of everyone was in their seats like when
the game started. I remember looking at the corners of
the reserve, like where no one sits that are always empty.
Every seat was pretty much filled by the start of
the game.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
Because I mean, not that it was going to happen,
but imagine.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
He got the first three strikeouts in the first setting,
and you missed it right, So.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Everybody was in their seats.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Everybody was gasping every single time he had so many
two strikes on players and then a home run, a
triple of this, Like there were moments where you're like,
this is it, this is it and no, but uh,
he got it.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Can I ask not that I'm interviewing you about last night,
but I am curious about this because he wasn't available
last year in the postseason, he still got the roar
that Aaron talked about when they were celebrating the title.
Did it feel like this is like almost not Clinton
Kershaw Appreciation Night, but this could be one of the

(06:05):
last opportunities that they can really show their love to
Clinton Kershaw. Did you have that sense at all?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
I did, and you hit it perfectly.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
It's like, I don't exactly know what is going to
happen with Kershaw after this season. He does not seem
like the type to do a farewell tour. I think
he's just gonna announce it and be done. And so
I do think there was a little bit of yes,
we may this would might be our only time to
really tell Kershaw how much we appreciate what he has

(06:33):
done for eighteen years with the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
And if I can jump in, we're all watching MATSI
were there. It felt like the hug from Dave Roberts
was like a little extra longs. Yes, some of the
individual players, So I, you know, me not being the
baseball guy that you guys all are, I don't think
I had that full thought process. But now thinking back
on the night, it's like, oh, maybe that was kind
of the unofficial goodbye to the eventual goodbye.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, because even if they win it next year, like
there there's and I think like last year there may
have been a bit of like an absence if he's
available for them. If he's available for them down the stretch,
it'll be great, but it'll still be about the back
to back and it won't necessarily be about him, where
last night was an opportunity for it to be all
about him and then he could make whatever decision that

(07:22):
he wants, which is again, he missed the start of
this season, right, so it takes him a while to
get into to action. And you'd have to think that
the three thousand strikeout goal is a reason on why
you want to come back and pitch again in addition
to getting a ring, in an addition to throwing in
the postseason and getting that. But you know, how many
more boxes do you need to check off the list

(07:43):
if you're Clayton Kershaw? There were very, very few. And
I think last night was a big one. Yeah it was, Yeah,
it was. I just I'm not and I'll just say this.
I think for all of us watching we talk about
the Clayton Kershaw aspect of it, and what a what
an opportunity it was in final time to say goodbye.
I feel that this narrative of this is the only

(08:03):
time we're gonna see it for a long long time
is a bit misguided. And you want to know why.
And if you don't want to know, I don't worry.
I'm still gonna tell you anyway why.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I want to know why.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Person, Yeah, Jason, are you interested in this?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
I'm hanging on every word.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
This is, this is why because it's only happened twenty times,
and so like the thought of like we're not gonna
we're not gonna see it very often, we don't see
it often, even when there is a string of guys
that we think can do it like this is this
is the twentieth time it's happened in baseball history, and

(08:40):
there's a majority of the guys in the last forty
so years I'd maybe say fifty years or so, guys
who started in the late fifties and the nineteen sixties
that pitched into the seventies and eighties. That's where you
get a majority of these twenty strikeout guys. In fact,
only one pitcher had three thousand strikeouts that started his

(09:03):
career didn't pitch like prior to or pitched prior to
nineteen fifty nine, and that was Walter Johnson. So you
have this era where you have like Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan,
Steve Carlton pitched into the early eighties. You have Tom
sever some of those older arms. But then about half
the list is made up of names that we all
know and recognize, including Clayton Kershaw, Max Schurzer, Justin Verlander.

(09:28):
So my whole thing is, I understand that the pitching,
the starting pitching role is different than it has been
in the past, but it's not like this was an
easily accessible mark at some point, like only twenty guys
have gotten it. So to think that there won't be
a Unicorn or someone like a Trek Scouoble or whoever.

(09:50):
Paul Skeens is the name that's thrown around the most
because he's so young and could possibly do it. Just
I kind of want to pump the brakes on that
because I feel it diminished, which is the fact that
there are only twenty guys that have done this, that
have had this accomplishment. It's not like there were eighty
seven guys and now nobody has done it for thirty years.
Like we've had guys recently do this, and they've been

(10:13):
able to do it a bit more frequently than say
they did, you know, sixty seventy years ago, but it's
still only twenty guys in Major League Baseball, and I
feel like there's a little bit almost of like the
record of that we'll ever see this again. Well yeah,
well we actually have only seen it nineteen other times
aside from last night. So that's kind of my takeaway
of it is it's more of like it's a rare

(10:34):
feat that we are kind of trying to normalize to
reflect the state of current baseball, and I just don't
necessarily think that that matches.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Up, So that was gonna be my follow up is
you think if it doesn't happen, it's not because the
role of a starting pitcher or the demands of a
starting pitcher has changed as much as just it doesn't
happen pretty much anytime.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Anyway, I think that I think it also goes and waves.
I don't think that we're gonna end up getting to
baseball twenty five years and now from now where you
just have guys pitch one inning and leave. Like I
think like we're in a certain spot right now. Sure
we're seeing arm injuries, but things change, and I think

(11:17):
at some point things could be different, or you can
get that uniform, that unicorn that leads may the Majors
and leads the AL or NL and strikeouts year after
year after year. And that's the one thing that I'm
waiting to see. Who knows who's going to pitch into
their late thirties and early forties. If Clayton Kershaw is
doing it, and Max Scherzer is doing it, and Justin

(11:40):
Verlander's doing it, who's to say some of these other
guys can't necessarily do it and also reach that mark
at some point. I think it's just easy to say
now when you look at the list and say, well,
this is pitching, this is how pitching's gone, this is
how pitching's going. Well, maybe maybe that's the case. You
have information now, but if you actually look over the past,

(12:00):
it's a difficult feat to to accomplish, and the pitching
waves that you've seen, I think it's it's been more
up and down than in the past.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Now it makes perfect sense, It makes perfect sense, and
it was a cool moment, a rare moment.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I guess I do lean towards it's probably not likely
to happen, and I coming into the show lean more
towards it's probably not gonna happen because of again the
changes of the expectations of a starting pitcher. But I
think you've made me kind of reconsider it from that
perspective as well as it's probably not gonna happen again
anytime soon, simply because it's just a really hard thing
to do.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Manzi.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I mean, you're being logical here, and it makes sense,
but I do think it's more of the Yeah, it
was rare, as it was. I do think we may
not see it again because of the way pitching has
gone lately, Like you have to expect Paul Skeins to
not get injured and miss you know, and then if

(13:01):
he does get injured, to come back and be as
successful as he was. There's like a lot of factors,
but I think the big factor is how we are
utilizing starting pitchers right now.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
And that's, of course, assuming that he pitches.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Like years exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, so interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Jason Stewart, you're a baseball officionado, do you think we'll
see three thousand? And I'm using the air quotes anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I think I was doing the math last night. Right,
if Chris Sale gets healthy and stays healthy, he's got
a shot, he gets a ton of strikeouts and a
short amount of time, he might be the last one.
But I hope he doesn't. I want Kershaw to be
kind of the pitcher that closes the door on this.
And I was looking at this last night. So my
entire lifetime, there have been two benchmarks that guaranteed you

(13:48):
a Hall of Fame induction, three hundred wins and three
thousand strikeouts. Right, there are fewer pitchers with three thousand
strikeouts than three hundred wins.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
I didn't. That's great.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
I didn't know, so that kind of speaks to this accomplishment.
And to Dan's point, it's it's just it's so rare. Anyways,
it will probably be the last one. And I was
talking to Ryan Bersching. Are we all know Ryan? She
actually co hosts. He actually co hosts the sick podcast
The Dodgers Own with Manzi Bonios and Bo Bentson, And

(14:23):
I said, I don't think that the twenty twenty one
or twenty twenty two Dodgers would have done what they
did last night. In other words, the twenty twenty one
Dodgers Kershaw would have left without without his three thousand k.
And he's doing it next week in Milwaukee and then
and the Dodgers would never have won a game like that. Like,
but there's something about the new Dodgers that meets the moment.

(14:44):
Something happened last year, some some page was turned and
maybe it's the show hey thing. But everything happened last
night the way it was supposed to happen, and that's
what kind of made it special too. I don't know
if the three thousandth k is as special without the walkoff.
You know that it was such a cherry on top
of the cake. You know, well, and it's really funny.

(15:05):
So Jay stew and MATSI can hop in like something happened.
So like obviously Dave Roberts was known as like the
buy the book manager. We stay what happened in the
play something happened in the playoffs last year? Was it
the clinching game he kept somebody in or he took
somebody out earlier where it was like, oh, he has
never done this before.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
And I don't know if it.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Was in that moment or since that moment that to
your point, it's like, yes, we understand the analytics of
it's better to take him out after this time as
opposed to this time, but it is this is a
unique situation. I'm just curious, Like it does feel like
I don't know if it was during the playoff run
or because they won the World Series, but it just
does feel like something's a little bit different there.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
Absolutely different. And Dave Roberts, to his credit last night,
and I'm sorry I didn't even hear him afterwards talk
about it, but I'm guessing he was thinking, I have
what a thirty eight year old pitcher and I are,
however old he is, He's thrown ninety one pitch. He's
gotta be gassed. He didn't have his stuff all night.
Watch him anyways. Yeah, and it's like it would have

(16:07):
been so easy to take him out. I think most
of the people watching the game thought he was going
to take him out. So what's surprised all of us
that he brought him out? And thank god he did.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yes, absolutely, I think everybody gasped and cheered when he
came back out for that final sixth inning.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I liked him in that spot. I really did.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
And yeah, Dave Roberts, like he really did make. It
wasn't one move, Aaron, because of the numerous pitchers that
we had on I l the moves that he made.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
It wasn't one too. He made a.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Lot of really good moves, which he maybe had not
in the past.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I just remember as a guy who admittedly is a
casual baseball fan but was also critical of being two
by the books, two analytical in previous World Series runs.
I remember being impressed by him, like I am like
an old school baseball fan of like you go with
the feel of the game, and like it's not to
say that the picture if he doesn't throw one hundred
twenty pitches.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
He's not a real man.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Like, that's not what I'm saying, But like what I
am saying is, you know, we all go back to
the famous you know, Blake Snell, and I know it
wasn't the Dodgers remembered he got taken out like the
fifth inning of a clinching Gate era, you know, losing
go home game of the World Series, and everybody's like,
what are we doing? And I just seem to remember
last year it was the balance of Okay, we understand
the analytics and they are important in our decision making process,

(17:21):
but I'm gonna go a little bit of feel old school.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
This and that. So it's just something that I remembered
that kind of played into last night.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Well it's also, you know, to Manzi's point, even though
it was Yamamoto babblehead night, Kurshaw's next start is scheduled
to be in Milwaukee. You know, do you wanna do
you know what I mean, he could give up nineteen
runs in that inning, but if you know, if he
was gonna get he was gonna get that strikeout at
some point, just leave him on, leave him out there?
Can I quick, just go back to just the numbers

(17:48):
sort of thing, because this is the as I look
at these numbers, Randy Johnson absurd right there. So Randy
Johnson's second all time and strikeouts through about twelve hundred
innings less than Nolan Ryan, and his only nine hundred
strikeouts shy of him all time. So Randy Johnson was

(18:08):
leading the league in strikeouts in the late nineties and
early two thousands with three hundred and sixty four three
hundred and seventy two three hundred and thirty four strikeouts.
To Jason's point about Chris Sale, Chris Sale has led
the league strikeouts before, but only once in his careers
he'd thrown three hundred or more strikeouts. So the question becomes,

(18:31):
I think, is longevity. Yeah, so if you're a pitcher
like Spencer Strider at two hundred and eighty strikeouts a
couple of years ago, it's best in the National League.
He underwent Tommy John surgery. I know he's not having
the greatest year this year, but you would have to
think that Spencer Strider's career is going to last long.
I think that's the true test of time. If you

(18:52):
consistently can be there for your team, which again is
a huge ask because again, only twenty guys have done it.
It's not necessarily just the power pitchers. I don't think
it's necessarily the new way of baseball because you're not
playing the new way of baseball with your horses. I
think it's just it's maybe different early in Schemes's career

(19:15):
because you're trying to all right, let's not burn him
out so quickly. But at some point he's going to
carry a load that's like a Garrett Cole workload, who
again could be close as well. He's got his own
arm injuries and Tommy John surgery to deal with. But
like to sit there and say, like, we're never gonna
see this again, it's tough to say because you don't
know if a twenty two year old is going to

(19:35):
pitch fifteen years in the majors, you know what I mean. So,
and that's just where I go with this of like,
we want to make these these proclamations about the state
of pitching in the Major League Baseball, most of which
are true, But there are different types of guys out there,
and those are the guys that could be number twenty
one or twenty two.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, and I think to your point earlier, sports are cyclical,
and like the reference you made about the game, right,
it was like five years ago, you can't draft a
running back in the first round. It's the dumbest thing
you've ever done. It's like, who are the two most
valuable players in the league last year? I know who
won the award, but it was probably Saquon Barkley and
Derrick Henry. You know, It's like basketball death of the Center.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I watched Joe Yo Kitchen the playoffs this year. He's
pretty good, you know, And it's like, so, you know,
I don't know, you know, I don't know when it
would happen, or how it would happen, or what the
circumstances would be. Where pitchers just in general are kind
of given a longer leash. Maybe maybe at some point
the analytics back up that you don't need to pull

(20:37):
him after you know, seventy five eighty eighty five pitches.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
But to your point, and I do think it is
an important one, is sports are cyclical, and even just
in the time that we've been doing this, how many
things are are etched in stone as certainty again.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Run game, it's dead. The center it's dead.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
The SEC is definitively better than the Big Ten in
color college football. Well, you know, it's a cycle, cyclical.
All of a sudden, we have back to back Big
Ten champions. So I think that's an interesting point as well,
is that I think we do get caught up in
a moment too much, and sometimes things do kind of
revert back to things that we're not necessarily expecting.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
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(21:37):
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Speaker 7 (21:40):
One two pitch, strike threecord Is Big cut them with
a slider strike out number three thousand for Clayton krusha
history at Dodger Stadium.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
They will stop the game. Crusha toffing his cap to
the crown this adoring crowd here at Dodger Stadium as
Clayton Kershaw enters the three thousand club, just the twentieth
member and only the fourth left hander in the history
of the game, with three thousand strikeouts, every one of

(22:18):
them coming in a Dodger uniform.

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Speaker 2 (22:28):
App Appreciate them now because you never know when you're
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I'm Dan Byer in for Covino and Rich here on
a Thursday, a July fourth, even Independence Day eve. It
is July three. Welcome to Fox Sports Radio. Jason Stewarts

(22:49):
our executive producer, Iowa sam Ar, technical producer, and I
thought Manzie Milanio's at the news desk was just a
leading with the Luis Ortiz story earlier so she could
flex or Luis Ortisse pronunciation. However, Aaron, when I saw
this pitch, Oh my goodness, did you see this Luis
Ortiz pitch? Now that is under investigation.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I'm gonna look it up right now. The one thing.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I will say, I don't totally know what those integrity
groups do, but I know that they are, like they're
unbelievable with the things that they can uncover. And when
you hear that one of the integrity firms is involved, yeah,
you probably did something and you're gonna get in a
lot of trouble for it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
So MANSI, I.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Know that you've oh I see it now, but going.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Okay, hey, there's the one against the Mariners that is
kind of like, okay, the one against the Cardinals. My goodness,
like this thing it it one hopped. It one hopped
about fifty two feet from the pitcher's mound. It was

(23:59):
I mean it was it was like halfway to the plate.
Like it wasn't even close. So there's a reason why
Major League Baseball needs to needs to investigate.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Wait, this would be like, this would be like I
need to get fired from Fox Sports Radio because of XYZ.
I'm gonna do it to lead hour two and then
you're just like, Aaron, how are you? And then I
just rip off like eight straight expletives in a row.
It's like, okay, now we have to fire them. It's
like okay, yeah, it's not a perfect analogy. But if
you were betting on yourself to throw a ball, it

(24:32):
doesn't get much more of a ball than that one
right there.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
People think the Malik Beasley late bucket to cover the
spread was obvious. This is one hundred times worse like
this is. It's just I get it now, I absolutely
get it. I thought it was another case of like,
all right, whatever, this thing wasn't even close because the

(24:56):
bet was apparently on a first pitch strike, you could
throw it anywhere. He could throw it to the moon,
and Luis Ortiz may have tried to. It felt like
he tried to throw it to the core of the earth,
like that's how far short it came from home plate.
But that's what major League Baseball is looking into. And
Louis Ortiz, if that's any evidence, I think is going

(25:20):
to be missing some more time in Major League Baseball
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It's crazy to think, but next week is actually the
start of the college football season. And I say that
because you know it. But for those of you that
don't know, media days starting up. Big twelve has their
media availabilities starting on Tuesday of next week. The SEC
will follow in the following week, and then the Big
Ten will have theirs later on in the month of

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July in Las Vegas. Same thing with the ACC. But
next week we're going to be talking college football. And
yesterday on Fox Sports Radio on The Doug Gottlieb Show,
executive producer Jason Stewart, who's hanging out with us, brought
up the topic of the midway and what we were
looking forward to for the rest of the season. For

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the rest of the year, excuse me, and Aaron I
said something in there about college football because I feel
that there's not a lot of buzz with college football
entering this season, and I think one of the reasons
is because there's no Nick Saban And I realize now

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how much college football missus Saban being in the game.
And I think last year we felt well Alabama is
still Alabama? How are they going to respond without Saban?
I didn't believe that Alabama was still Alabama, and it
showed last year. And now we enter this year and

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I don't think Alabama is a part of any major
conversation when talking about college football. And when we're talking
about college football, we're talking about arch Manning, We're talking
about Penn State and maybe little Ohio State, a little
of Ohio State, and what can Dion do now in Colorado.

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Outside of that, I know, conference wise, there's going to
be stuff, but on a national scale, I don't think
that there's a ton for people to latch outo right now.
And I think part of the reason is because a
figure like Nick Saban and what he meant to Alabama
is no longer in the game. And I feel that
college football we're really feeling the effects of no Nick
Saban in the game.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
So two quick thoughts, because I know you want to
open it up to the group. One.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
First of all, even with the arch Manning stuff, it
felt that did this week feel a little manufactured too?
Like it was just nobody there's nothing to talk about. Oh,
let's get Paul Finebaum on and have him say something crazy,
and that was where he said, oh, I think Arch
is gonna be the best quarterback since Tim Tebow, and
then it just became a talking point and it didn't

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feel to me. It didn't feel organic. It felt like
we need somebody to say something crazy so we have
something to talk about. And I don't even think even
with Arch, it's as big as I think. I think
a lot of people are intrigued, but I don't think
it's as big as people think. The other thing too,
Dan that I'm gonna say, and I do think Saban
is a big part of why there's no buzz. I

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am gonna say something extremely unpopular, but I truly believe it.
I think part of the reason there's no buzz is
because individual games do not matter as much anymore, and
so it's like, yeah, Ohio State Texas is gonna be
really cool, but either of those teams can lose, and

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it's like whatever, and I it's a broader conversation for
another day. You and I will probably be filling in
at some point and we can dive into this. But like,
what made college football college football was that every single
Saturday mattered every single year, and that just isn't the
case anymore. So it's like, yeah, we can be excited

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for Ohio State Texas, but ultimately it doesn't have the
stakes that it would have even two, three, four years ago.
And I think that's part of it as well. Maybe
I'm crazy, but I think that's part of it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Well, the only pushback that I would give to that
is last year July third, we were not looking forward
to an Indiana Ohio State game, and then Indiana does
what they do and all of a sudden that becomes
quite the matchup.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I'm not saying there's not individual games that matter over
the course of the year.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I do think that.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
And by the way, it actually didn't end up mattering
because both teams made the playoff.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Sure, so it was the lead up to it, there
there was hype.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Oh yeah, and there there was hype in the lead
up to a lot of games. But I just think
that I don't know, it's just it's just I don't
want to say it's like again, I think individual fan
bases like, yeah, you're excited about your team and you're
worried about this, and you're this and that.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
But as a sport, I think it's harder to.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Like on a week two week basis, feel as invested
when you know the games don't mean as much. And
maybe I'm the only one that feels that way, and
I'm still listening. I'm still excited about Clem's in LSU
in week one. I'm still excited about Michigan and Oklahoma
early in the year, certainly Texas, Ohio State. But I
just I think that's part of it, too, is everybody
knows that any individual result doesn't matter the way that

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it did two years ago, and I think that's part
of why there's probably not as much exciting.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
It will be interesting to see the ramifications, especially with
Ohio State losing to Michigan and then winning the National Championship.
Does that happen in other scenarios as well? Does that
happen in an Iron Bowl? You know? Does that? You know?
Does that happen in an Oregon Washington match up? You
know those sort of things where your team loses and
then you go on to win and you have those

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fan bases bickering over it. But I get what you're saying.
I think that the lack of having in Alabama there
is telling. I felt that Lebron James should have probably
retired two years ago to allow the NBA to breathe,
But at some point I think that the league will
miss him, sure, And so that's kind of so with

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college football. We had great coaches, and Dabo's still at
Clemson with the national championship, but Jim Harbaugh's left Urban
Myers no longer coaching, But I think Saban still brought
it with just who he is and what Alabama is,
so it's not equal to everyone else. And I look

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at the NFL. I don't even know if we miss
anybody from the NFL. I can tell you that we
actually we didn't miss Ben Roethlisberger. We didn't miss Philip Rivers,
we didn't miss Drew Brees. We probably didn't miss Peyton
Manning because Tom Brady just kept on playing. So if
there was any point of years past that we wanted

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to carry on, it was just latched on to Brady
that we're like, okay, well at least Brady's still here
to keep things normal. Then Brady leaves and there wasn't
as much of a shock. And I don't know if
it's because Aaron Rodgers was still there or Patrick Mahomes
has done what he's done, or Lamar Jackson and Josh
Allen have emerged. But I feel that's all part of it.

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And that's what I find like so interesting is just
because you're great in your like a massive star, when
you leave, it doesn't necessarily translate into you actually being missed.
And we were just talking about Caitlin Clark, and I'm
sorry for as much as growth as the women's game has,

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I think we felt that college basketball did not. Women's
college basketball last year did not have the same oomph
as it did then when Caitlin Clark was there the
last two years. So technically in women's college basketball, you
can name all the players that they had and what
Yukon did, but it still wasn't necessarily the same. And
I think ratings proved that that sport missed Caitlin Clark.

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I'm not sure every sport take away their superstar actually
misses their superstar.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, And I think it's a great point on the
NFL too, and I think it's obvious, but it is
such a unique like I think it's such a unique
business and enterprise in that it's one of the biggest
businesses that we have in America and it continues to
find ways to grow, continues to find ways to be relevant,
and you know, if I can run back to college

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football for a second, like that's what I find very
interesting about the state of college football is I think
we're increasingly going to it's just a minor league for
the NFL. From the perspective of expanded playoff, regular season
doesn't matter as much, players getting paid, all of that.
But the thing that makes the NFL the NFL, I

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think part of it is the juice angle that you're
talking about. The NFL finds ways to make you care
about the NFL in February and March with free obviously
on February, but March with free agency, April with the draft,
May with the schedule release. And I know this isn't
necessarily a compare and the NFL to college football, but

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I think that's where college football, and to the point
that you're making about there not being a lot of
buzz going into this season, I think that's where college football.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
You can't just.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Keep expanding, expanding, expanding, expanding. You have to make people
care in other ways. And I'll just I know it's
not the focal point of what we're talking about but
I just think it's an interesting conversation that college football,
in the growth that they've experienced in expansion and paying
players and all of the things that have happened, I
don't think they factored that part in. And that's what

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the NFL does better than everybody else.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I mean, you know, major League Baseball for so long
was kind of looking for that stuf. Like I felt
major League Baseball missed Derek Jeter when he retired, Like
I don't think it, you know, when a Rod had
his issues, Like there are other greats from that era,
but I felt and out bringing Jason or or Monci

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in this and just because they're baseball heads, like I
felt something was missing from baseball when Jeter left, because
he's the captain, he's the Yankees, he's that generation that
we watched for so long and tied to, and then
there was nobody there in Major League Baseball to immediately
pick up uh or carry that torch. Did any of

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you guys feel the same when Jeter retired a decade ago?

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, I think I think that's a fair statement.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I feel like, especially seeing the stars right now in baseball,
because there's so many right now, I feel that people
tune in to watch, and I think there was like
like a lull where yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Like it was like, uh, who am I going to
tune in.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
To watch well?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
And it wasn't just Jeter, it was Jeter was a
metaphor for like that era of the Yankees where it
was like, you know, it was the cliche, but it
was true whether you loved him or whether you hated him.
They were pretty much in the World Series every year
and you were watching him, and you were watching him
the root for him, watching him, root against him. And
I think Jeter was a metaphor for that era, and
then when he was gone, it was like, oh, that

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era is officially over.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I think that when you look at tennis and we're
just saying it right now. By the way, that my
way Derek Jeter commercial that they did, I think it
was gatorade like in this final year, like like I'm
you know, cutting onions, you know, chopping up onions and
watching it. I didn't care about the Yankees at all,
was never a Yankees fan, but like watching that, you know,

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plus he's a Michigan guy, you know, like like I
have no reason to like Derek Jeter whatsoever, But seeing
that I was like, oh, geez man, why you know,
what's up with the pollen man? This is crazy in tennis,
I'll say this, the trio of the Federer, Nadal, Djoko
that we've had and become accustomed to, we only have

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thirty three percent. Djokovic is still playing. Now Federer and
Nadala moved on. Serena Williams was women's tennis for two
decades and now I you know, we're talking cocoa golf
here and there. She's one of the many that are
out Madison Keyes's you know, just it was Serena and

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during that time when you watched, you either Serena was
playing or you weren't paying attention. And so like that's
the level that I go to. And that may be
the like the super extreme, but I think like with
even like the newer Carlos Alkarez and Yanick Sinner, who
people are becoming more accustomed to, and with Djokovic still playing,
has really softened the loss of Federer and Nadal, But

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there's been nothing to take the spot of Serena Williams,
and I don't think there there really ever will be
in women's tennis. But that's that's like one where I
say like, wow, I truly miss because every summer we're
waiting every other day for Serena to play, or even
Venus for that matter, but specifically Serena, and I think
that was that's a big miss that we have in sports.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Let me ask your question, Dan. Obviously, you know college oops,
guy whatever. I don't really feel like Duke is as
hateable without coach K. John Shire really has no opinion
or no personality. I'll actually say this, like being at
the Final four with him this year, he actually seems
like a genuinely nice human being.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
You know, we talked about Kershaw earlier.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It's like with Shire, it was like and it was
funny because I said he's the anti JJ Reddick, Like
basically nothing was about him. Everything was about how great
his coaching staff was, his players were, the player's parents were.
I owe it all to them. Da da da da da.
And it's like, you know, college oops is a niche sport,
but so is tennis, so is whatever. And I do

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feel like Duke is less hateable and because they're less hateable,
less interesting without coach K.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I was thinking the exact same thing. Aaron and I
come at it from completely different ways, Like he is
fully involved in the sport and I'm as casual as
you could be. So from my perspective, I have felt
that the last couple tournaments, I've felt the last two marches,
I have felt that there's just there's no there there

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sure so it was like either you were counting all
of Coach K's accolades or you were rooting against Duke,
but there was just something tangible, something memorable about those
And I totally agree.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yes, I was gonna say, I'm like, on a certain level,
Jim Beheim at Syracuse and like of that, but not
like Syracuse is so like far off the map, like
I don't. I don't even remember any highlight from any
game at the Carrier Dome this past season, like none,
Like I don't remember it ever being spotlighted. But I
also think, like with the absence and you're you're you're

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both right on Coach K. I also think it's helped
tom Izzo's profile because he and I guess Mark few
if you want to, but it's still not you know,
ISO's Iso, I feel is the last him and Bill
salf and Mark few of the last ones. But I
think it's really helped Izo of being that old guy
because of the showdowns that he had with Coach K

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and Roy Williams and others. But I feel like Izzo
has kind of benefited from us missing a guy like
Coach K.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
You know, I think it's a great point. And I
think he was the one.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I mean, he was as vocal as any of them about, Hey,
you know, this portal thing's kind of out of control,
this nil thing. If we thought about how we're gonna
do it, and I think the other guys and like, listen,
I know it's easy to just like bash. Like I
understand Coach K is like seventy three years old. He's like,
I don't want to just figure out anil Like, okay,

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so one day we go from we can't pay players
and we'll be fired if we do too. There's literally
no rules on how much we can pay them. Like,
so I don't blame Coach K or Roy Williams or
whatever for just saying, you know what, I'll let somebody
else figure this out.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
I'm in my seventies.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
But I do think it does give Tom Izzo some
cachet of like oh crap, Like we watched him last year,
you know, and again, if you're not a diehard, you
don't remember all the details. But they won the Big
Ten regular season, they went to the Elite eight. In
the Elite eight, they lost to the only team that
was better. You know, they lost. They were as a
two seed, they lost to a one seed, and it's like, oh,
Izzo still got the goods. And I do think, like,

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it's not like you move him up in all time
lists because he's figured it out.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
But I think it's pretty cool that.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
You know, some guys just kind of punted on this
era un said I'll never figure it out, and he
was one that he's kind of doing it the same way.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
He doesn't take a.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Lot of transfers, he doesn't have a team that shoots
forty three is a game, and it's like, oh, tom Izzo,
there he is another Big Ten championship.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
You know, who do you think or who do you
feel that you miss in sports? Who is sports missing?
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sky as well giving us your nominations of who you
actually missed. In sports do You think i'm far off
base with the quarterback stuff IN? The, NFL no.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I think you're.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
SPOT on i think it's actually. Relatively Incredible and i'll
be quick on THIS because i know we want to
get to some calls, and STUFF but i think it's
especially interesting given what did we Spend all April and
may talking about who is the face OF? The nba
do we need a face OF. The nba why don't
we have a face OF the nba IN the nfl, is,

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like yeah, you know just literally the greatest quarterback ever
retired and we're just gonna keep chugging along without missing.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
A beat it's kind.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Of INCREDIBLE and i know it's easy to prop UP
the nfl and push DOWN, the NBA but i think
that is an interesting analogy of Even when brady was
the last of that group to leave, the league didn't miss,
a beat and here we are, you know still trying
to figure Out as lebron is going about to be.
Forty one we know he's nothing close to the best

(43:06):
player in the. League anymore who is the quote unquote
face of? The league probably five six years after he
last should.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
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Com Here on rich Here On Fox. Sports radio we
always love The input steve Tweets In Major. League baseball
never Got Over tommy. Lesorda leaving we'll never see another
manager Attacked At philly fanatic or go After The San.
Diego chicken very, well, Done. Fair steve i'll tell, you
what you don't always have to be, a superstar and

(43:57):
sometimes the opposite end of. The spectrum by, the way
if you Know when rich Here At Fox Sports radio
He's erin Torres And I'm. Dan byer we were just
talking about who we've missed, in SPORTS and i think
you can even just take a Guess, with lebron at
some point the league will, miss him even though we
get tired of him and get tired of. His antics
there's gonna be a point where the League Misses. Lebron

(44:18):
james there's also the point and This Isn't. Lebron James
lebron james. ISN'T irreplaceable i Feel That tiger woods, Was
irreplaceable like there will never be anybody that fills the
void in the gap that was Left By tiger woods
just KIND of i don't want to say fading away from,
the game but just not being involved for the variety.

(44:39):
Of reasons that is one that is just you're never gonna.
Fill it and as a, GOLF fan i always got
annoyed for people who had CRITICIZED The pga tour be
like why can't he had? No plan like there is
no plan for that to, you know to enter and,
To Exit Like tiger woods is just the one.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Of one he was so OBVIOUS that i didn't even
feel like it was worth referencing in the, last segment
like it's just in. MY life i mean he has
to be you Know in Kate len clark may one day,
get there but like he has to be the most irreplaceable,
athlete ever and there's just never, you know it's Like

(45:19):
and i'm sure did you let me ask. You this
did you Read That army ktaean book that they did?
On Him, not tiger, BUT no i can't. Believe that
i've read it probably two or, three times cover. To
cover it's like six. Hundred pages. It's incredible but when
you understand how he, was raised you just there's there

(45:39):
will never be as long as they are, playing golf
another golfer. Like HIM and i won't bore people too,
many details but it's like dad was in. THE military
i mean the dad used to like train him like a,
football player but with a golf club in. His hand,
you know like he's, you know getting ready to, tee
up and, you know the dad's throwing stuff, at him

(45:59):
screwing slurs, at, him whatever just to kind of make
him as mentally tough as.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
He was and then you add in the, physical.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Ability the, mental ability there's never gonna be anyone, like
him and, you know we have seen, like, Obviously Look
kobe bryant is a Facsimile Of. Michael jordan He Isn't.
Michael jordan we will just never see anyone Anything Like.
Tiger woods, and then by, the way let me also
add this really, quick TOO and i didn't mean to.
Go along the cultural impact of Being Half, african American

(46:28):
half asian in what was at the time a very predominantly.
White support just never gonna see anything like.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It again, that is it is, a huge, huge part
especially with the history. Of golf by, the way kudos
to you for reading, a book because not ONLY do
i not, READ books i listen. To them now that's.
That's good that's. The WAY so i have to get the.
Audio Book, jason seort are you with me on this or?
ARE you, I mean i love to READ and. I

(46:53):
LISTEN but i was impressed by that By what aaron did.
Right there he asked you if you, read it and you,
said no and then he says he read it at
least two or, three times and then he gave the
number of pages. IT was, i mean that was a,
massive book, you know humble bragging about.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Ten, seconds, well yeah it was no because that WAS
why i actually thought that you might not have. Read
it is not because you're not capable of reading six,
hundred pages but because it is like a commitment and
you are obviously, a father you're a, radio host you
have a lot. OF responsibilities i.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Love, It yeah i'm.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Dead serious that's why.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
It wasn't like, a look guess you could read six
hundred pages and guess who can't happy.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
A lot i actually felt you knew me that you're
like man his, attention span.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
WHICH is i know YOU'RE and i know you're the
most passionate golf Fan that i've. Ever met so THAT'S
why i thought if it was a, you know six
hundred page Book On, SERENA williams i might not have asked.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
No offense but, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
There is something about diving into a. GOOD book i
think that we can, all Appreciate Including, manzi blanios who's
going to dive into. HER update I Appreciate aaron torres
not only reading a BOOK because i don't read. Books
twice it's one. AND done i am set FOR. THE
nba i would Be the cooper FLAG of i Am
the cooper flag. Of books one. And done let's get

(48:13):
to the. Next thing manci what's? GOING on i.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Can reread, a book not, a LOT but. I.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Can well the problem is when you finish a, good
book if you don't have the good book to follow up,
with it it's Like a netflix streight and you just
default to something that you.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Already.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
KNOW right i feel.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Like, the audiobooks they feel so much, like CHEATING but
i still feel good, about it Like because, i'm, like
oh just sitting along in the drive and listen for
forty Five.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Minutes, Moby dick no. Big, deal yeah just caught. It,
yesterday yeah ever you know anything?

Speaker 3 (48:45):
About?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
THAT no, i.

Speaker 6 (48:46):
DON'T guys i FEEL like i feel like listening to
books is much more accepted now than it was even ten.
Years ago it's kind of like when you meet somebody,
on tender like you typically wouldn't tell your, folks that
but now it's like, very accepted.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
You know about that.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
SPECIFIC thing i feel like it's almost a default to
people assume now that's where. People MET like i was
on vacation last week and they, were, like, oh yeah
we were WITH my i was with my, wife obviously
and they, were, like, oh, so like where'd you guys
meet on an APP and i, was, like no we
met at, a bar like normal, Human, beings like what,
The hell well that.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
Is Normal ryan berschinger just married his last, not tender
but wherever.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
They met THAT'S what.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I mean That's what.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I'm saying it's like it's almost a default. Of people
now assume.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
One of those it might Have.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
Been hinge actually it might have Been, hing yeah so.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
It is it is becoming. The norm You're not you're.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Not.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Wrong yeah ONE thing i wanted to say ON that
i wonder what the normal action on the first pitch
of the third inning of a Regular Season major league baseball,
Game IS and i wonder how much had to be
bet for it to.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Be flagged you Know what.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
I'm, saying yeah, you know it's an, easy, bet right
it's one of th on. You know but you're, then,
wondering like why would all these people be betting On
The luis ortiz? First pitch so there'd have to be
some sort. Of Irregularity But jason stewart made the point
off the air to me that the pitch had to

(50:15):
be so bad because you have to make sure that
the batter doesn't even think, about swinging like usually like, it's,
like okay, first pitch take you can put one over is,
a fastball but you have to, leave everything like you
can't leave anything. To chance so there's one pitch that
was it was, a, ball definitely but the second one.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Didn't make it fifty, feet, yeah right like one.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Top ten feet away from The, plated yeah and that's.
The game but he had that's and that's your first
pitch of. The, Game yeah but he didn't get caught
because it was a. Bad pitch he got caught because
there was so much irregularity. On IT so i just
wonder if it's like everyone's just been ten bucks on.
Their phone, oh yeah first pitch is, a ball and
then somebody was like eight thousand dollars on a ball

(50:59):
and that was how he.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Got caught That's what i'm.

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Speaker 2 (51:55):
Till tomorrow it's one of. Those, traditions oh it's. SO
magnificent i get what, You're saying aaron With The, luis
ortiz but it is like anything of it's the irregularity
that tips the investigators or the. Casinos off but even
Like The malik. Beasley play have you seen this video
Clip Of Gary payton? Junior circulating? Not yet so it's

(52:19):
it's around so people are speculating That Maybe gary payton
the second had some interest in a certain game because
of what the spread was and how he was reacting
on the bench to certain things in a game that
was about like a twelve. Point spread so this is
ALL over x a couple of, days ago and all

(52:42):
over TikTok Of gary payton, being like oh, my gosh
how did? You know because of fouls at, the END
and i just that will always tip you off of
the bets. Coming in that's how they're. Gonna know like
you and me Watching That cardinals, guardians game would not
have thought Anything Of. Luis ortiz we've just, been, like

(53:03):
boy that. Was weird maybe now we'd, flippantly, GO gee
i wonder if he's got something. On it but but,
you're right like the the amount of bets or what
was coming in for the number of wagers on that
bet is what tips. People off but then when you,
see it you're, just like oh, my gosh so this
this is, The worst like how do you not? Hide

(53:24):
it but it does have to go in that way,
because otherwise if we just saw that, first bitch we
wouldn't have the context of.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
The, Betting yeah i'm.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
JUST wondering i guess, it DOESN'T but i guess that.
It does like does that trigger just a warning in
the casual fan, of, like oh A major league baseball
pitcher just bounced the first pitch of.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
THE game i, don't know just just talking out, loud HERE.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Like i here's. My thing why do you why is?
Everything BETABLE.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Like i, You know i'll say this. Real.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Quick No, martin weiss who hosts the show before Me,
on saturdays made, this argument and as it Pertains To,
Malik beasley, he's like maybe we're just offering too many things.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
To BET and i Know. That mark it was Actually.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
ON sunday i guess, it Was But mark willard, was, like,
well yeah well they're not scaling back the things, to
BET so i.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Get. IT it i, just like that is something to.
MESS with a points spread is and that takes some
maneuvering to just throw a first pitch ball takes nothing,
like it and it doesn't it doesn't necessarily affect. Your
team it's so minute in the GAME that I just

(54:37):
i don't think that it's, necessarily worth, you know having
out there as. A bet, but hey to each. THEIR
own i, don't know maybe too much is too much
of one thing is. Never GOOD and i just think
that a first pitch ball. Or strike Our Teammate jared
smith always tweets about no run. First innings that's what he.
Bets on but that's you have, more, opportunities right, three batters,

(55:01):
you know possibly three outs. Each side all of those.
Make sense but to do it on just one pitch
that seems, to be, you know. Too minute, it's like,
you know just on a make or misshot IN an. Nba,
game anyway for, another day at, another time