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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:22):
Is Danny g Son's birthday weekend Coha's birthday weekend. He's
already a year old. He's out of his diaper, man
of the house, he's got a mustache already, kid's got
his license. It's all grown's up already. So whatever you're
doing to celebrate, enjoy your weekend, enjoy your Olympics, enjoy
the fight, which we'll talk about later on. I'm just
enjoying the show with you, Rich, because you brought the
(00:43):
heat alred hell Danny jar fun. Have you attached a
football or basketball to your son's hand, because the way
I'm seeing these quarterbacks get paid, and honestly, even average
players in the NBA are making twenty thirty forty million dollars,
So you should attach a ball to your son's hands permanently.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Bro, he's got a dog. Your stuff. Baseball he's got
a Raider stuffed football like the one of the minis,
and then he's got two Dodger wiffleball bats.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Oh get him going. But he's going to be a
soccer player, he is, So don't dare wish that on me.
I know, right. I hope you had a Brett Rippons
sword of Night. Hope you enjoyed some preseason football Hall
of Fame game Bears over the Texans twenty one seventeen.
The new kickoff rules, we got to talk about that
and how people hate change before we get into Pete
(01:29):
Rose and your other NFL thoughts rich about this coming season,
got to talk about how the new kickoff really didn't
provide any real excitement at first. Like Danny g hit
us up at first, he was like, it looks a
little more violent. Well, you know what, I have thoughts
on That was my first observation too, But I think it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Was because that first Chicago returner slipped down and had
that violent collision.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So what came to my mind immediately.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Was guys who hit the hole quick are going to
be the ones you want back there returning because with
that wall of defenders, there's just one or two little
holes there and if you can hit that hole, you
got that whole green field ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's what jesid Well. Like we said yesterday, it doesn't
matter if it's the greatest rule in the world. It's
going to take time for people to adjust, and even
if it pans out to be something positive, people are
still going to hate it. It's just the nature of
everybody too. People hate chain. Have you seen social media?
People love to complain. That was my big takeaway, and well,
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let's get into it right now. Your initial thoughts. There's
a couple layers. Number One, when a new rule is
put into place or a new strategy, you can't really
see how it works without a bigger sample size and
without the star players in action, right Like these are
backup backups trying to make the squad. This is like
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a liquid launch. Yeah, I want to see Kyreek Hiller, Deemo,
samuelar DK Metcalf or some beasta don This is like
the beta version of what we're gonna get course soft
launch and as a sample, but already social media is
saying it's gonna ruin the NFL. You know, I dvrd
it and I was like, I'll watch later because after
the show, I wanted to go to the gym, had
a couple errands to run, and I said, I'll watch
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it later. But I did watch on Twitter the first
kickoff return because I couldn't resist. I'm like, I gotta
see it now. All the comments a bunch of knuckleheads,
a bunch of JIMBRONI saying, oh, you're ruining football. Oh
this is Oh it's the over Hey, why are you
ruin the game. And it just goes with the narrative
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of bozos. You know, I look at it, Bozos hate change.
It goes both ways. Nobody's getting a real advantage here.
Both teams have to adjust to the new style of play.
I referenced Baseball's extra inning rules where there's a player
that starts at second. You know, it just is what
it is, so you roll with it. As as a fan.
(04:01):
I just roll with it. Both teams get that opportunity.
So people still hate it. I like it. I lo
this one is still too new to have a real
opinion on it. But much like anything in life, and
we've said this a million times on the Covino and
Rich Show, give it two weeks, give it two weeks.
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It's like your phone update. And that's our famous example.
Anytime your phone gets an update, you hate it like
the old one was back because you were used to it.
We just like what's familiar. Familiarity is comforting. And then
when he changed it up on us, we hate it.
We complain, we ask our friends if they like it? Sucks, right,
everything so I hate it. Two weeks later you realize, oh,
you know what, I actually kind of like it now,
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and that's what's going to happen here most likely if
you give it a chance. I remember when the iPhone
went from having a button you actually press to oh
you just swipe up. Oh yeah, you thought that was
going to be the worst. I almost I remember thinking
like you didn't want a new phone because of it.
I remember thinking I don't know if I want to
get one of these new phones. And then everyone was
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like where to go Apple Blue or a new computer
work system.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
It could be anything about when they took the headphone
jack away for the first time, we're like, how are
we going to use.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The DJ headphones we have with the cord? Everything change
sucks and you know what, the older you get. Here's
the thing too. Take a look at the people complaining.
Either they're really old school as far as their mentality,
or they're just old because you look at your own
parents or your grandpaty. The older they get, the harder
it is for them to navigate around the change, like
(05:38):
which you get cranky, exactly like your dad's setting up
all his apps on his iPad. Oh frustrating, right, or
setting up his new streaming Every year. Every year when
my dad and I and this is a great father
son bonding thing, my dad and I gamble on football together.
We share an account because we like to go over
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our football bets to get It's our thing. Me and
my dad love football more than anything. And every year
to start in our gambling account, my dad will hit
me up with some money for his side of it, right,
your dad, just venmo me, what are you gonna give
me five hundred bucks, a thousand bucks? Whatever? Oh no, no, Richie,
I'm gonna send you a check in the mail. I'm
like a check, that's not no, no, go on your
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phone right now. No, I don't know, Venmo. As you
get older, it's harder to adjust to the change. I
don't like change. I'm sure you've seen it along the
way too. You're struggling just to buy a pay per
view nowadays, You're like, do I have to buy it
from my phone? Are they gonna send me a code?
How does this work? It's frustrating. So you could see
why people don't like change. But here we're here, Covino
(06:41):
and rich To say, relax, give it a week, give
it two weeks, two weeks even do you think you
know more than the NFL? Let me take break. Some
people have this odd belief that everything used to be better,
and I'm telling you right now to accurate. Like baseball.
You said a great example of baseball the pitchclock. There
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were people that said it's gonna ruin the game. Now
you have sweet ass two hours and twenty minute games.
You're like, yeah, it was good when the games are quicker.
I'm a fan maybe what five to ten times a year.
They might be a guy that gets called on oh,
strike two, you didn't get in the box, big deal,
nobody do hey? Keep it moving? Hey, you got to
keep the game moving. So I love the pitchclock, and
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at first, much like everyone else, I'm like, why are
they starting extra innings with a guy on second? Now
I love it. There you go, extra innings, knowing that
you know what, it's equal for both teams. Plus it's like, yo,
equal for both teams. But you're like, let's get out
of it. Oh, free baseball. That's great. I got things
to do. I got other shows to watch. Yeah, I mean,
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I got other things to get to. So come on,
I got I gotta get my kid a bath. For
the resistors, for the people that are stubborn and hate change,
I'm telling you right now, I promise you will end
up loving this new kickoff because the reality is last year,
the year before. What do you like I described it yesterday?
How many times do you turn on Sunday Night Football,
(08:11):
Monday Night Football and they're reading the names of the
offensive lineman while the quarterback jog's out on the field
because what is it? It's an automatic touchback? Right? It
felt like eighty something percent of the time. There's got
to be a stat that it's seven or eight out
of ten times where it was automatic touchback to start
the game. Yet the reality is you didn't see much yesterday.
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But again, that's one game, the Hall of Fame game.
Don't hate change, Yeah, and don't hate change. You know
where it goes back to it's not when your first
girlfriend dumped you. It's all easier said than done. Remember
what do you mean? Remember when your first girlfriend dumpey
in high school? We all know that awful feeling. Oh,
it's the worst. You're like aj Soprano Remember on the Sopranos.
He was like, I'll never love anyone to get you. No,
he said, because I'm currently watching again. She was the
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best thing that ever happened to my whole life. Richie.
Weren't far off.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
League wide last season, it increased to seventy seven percent
the touch back rate.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So if the touch back rate was roughly roughly eight
out of ten times, how can anyone resist more action? Well,
it's intended to be more action and safer. So if
you're telling me safer and more action that, how could
any bozo say? Again, we're talking new kickoff rules and
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change a chance and again, we hope you enjoyed the
game last night. It was just nice. I was talking
to Dan Bayer yesterday. I like the dB you watched
them tonight, I mean you had it on the background. Yeah.
For me, it was like the Olympics. It's on, it's
on in the back. I'm not home exactly, watch it
not yet. But going back to your high school girlfriend,
do you remember that feeling, because we all share the
same feeling when you got dumb for the first time,
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you were thinking, miserable. No girl will ever kiss like her,
no girl will ever ah smell perfect like her, No
no girl ever loved me this way, and you were
like desperate and set. And then you met another girl
and you're like, oh, yeah, I adjusted. Time goes on,
goes on, life goes on. And by the way you
just explain my it's called my dwelling theory, apartment theory,
(10:16):
your house theory. You see an apartment or a house
and you're like, this is the greatest apartment, greatest house ever.
You put an offer in on it and you're like, oh,
some guy bought it in cash, and you think to yourself,
you're never ever going to find a house that cool again.
But you know what you do, and the house you
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end up living in you're like, oh, this is better
than the one I thought I wanted. So it always
happens that way. We're not trying to the old rules.
Here's how it does it. You thought the old rules
couldn't get any better, They were the best. Oh, it's
so great. These new rules suck. Oh it'll never be
as good as what you had. Guess what, give it
two weeks and you'd be like, yeah, you know what,
(10:57):
it's all good, it's all good. Trying to be Gary
Vaynerchuk or Tony Robbins, you know what nimes you have
to be though when you see how upset people get
on social media. And I'm not trying to be some
motivational speaker, but guys, a lot of times change is
a good things.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
This way what change I would it is true you
gotta involve a little bit, a little bit though, I
mean in our lifetime changes in the world of sports.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You know what happens rich For the most part, I
would say nine out of ten times I could look
back and say that was a good idea. You don't
adjust to those changes, you don't roll with the changes.
You become a dinosaur. You become left behind. You become
obsolete because everyone else is moving forward and you're stuck
on that old stuff. You're living analog in a digital world. Danny,
(11:48):
do you remember you were you came up in the
music radio world before you pivoted to sports. Do you
remember the resistors, the old school radio guys that got mad.
They're like, I want to play records or CDs or
and then when they went to the computer systems in
the two thousands, where iHeart and Serious Exam plays all
their music off of computer programs.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, when I first started in this business, touch screens
were the popular thing. It was the digital we were
at the time. Everybody was converting the CDs into the
hard hard drive systems, and then you would run the
radio station from the digital touch screen.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
And all the older guys didn't want to make a
touch screen. There were guys that took pride in like
when I edit in the editing room, I have real
to reels and I use razor blades to cut, and
you're like, no, dude, it's on a computer. Now those
resistors guess where they are now, retired, unemployed, goodbye because
they didn't make the adjustment. You don't want to get
left behind in life, in sports, in relationships, relevance is
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a choice. Remember that we're not saying you got to
jump on every trend. That's not our point. But if
the change is happening, roll with it. You're only making
yourself mad for no reason. So it happened yesterday, your thoughts.
We gave you something to think about. We're saying two weeks,
give it two weeks. Can't make that assessment now. I mean, listen,
not every change is great, let me make that clear.
(13:06):
But I think most of them you can find a
positive in. And let me give you one more. Yeah,
as a Mets fan, and you know who else should
feel this way? Padres, fans, braves, fans, pirates fans. Who
else is in that mix? Oh, Arizona Diamondbacks fans, all
these teams that are fighting for those wildcards in the NL. Yeah,
you you take this game. You guys would have been
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sellers over right. Twenty five years ago when there was
like one wildcard. Yeah, you'd be like, yeah, dude, I
guess we're sort of out of it. Later, it keeps
more fans interested, So every change has a positive. What's up, dB?
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I have a thought on a change because we're not
really really in basketball mode. But the resetting of the
shot clock not entirely so in the NBA, if you
miss it goes back to you know, fourteen seconds. In
college basketball resets to twenty. I mean, there was a
time when we were growing up where you had a
forty five second shot clock. In college, you missed a shot,
you could throw it back out. You would take a
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minute thirty off of the clock.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
It's insane. Great rule change.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Now you know it's been trimmed down to thirty seconds,
and if you get an offensive rebound, it's not a
full thirty or back to twenty. That is what I
think is, you know, one of those rule changes that
really helped the game.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And without the time, even if it doesn't pan out,
Rich the intent is for the greater good and the
growth of the game. Like the intent isn't to ruin
your experience, Bart, Harold George, did you say an old
guy named Ebeneezer. It's not designed to ruin your experience.
It's designed to make it better for today's world. So
(14:36):
why are you so resistant? Again, we sound preachy, trust us.
We feel the same way a lot of times. But
then I condition myself to say change is not bad.
It is exactly intact. Listen, the experience. Change is time
to rearrange the fan experience, time to change Peter Brady
style rearrange. Most changes are done to enhance the fan experience.
(14:59):
Whether you want to RESI or not. I know, Danny G.
You hate the Clippers because you're a Lakers guy. I
don't hate them. Some of their fans are a little annoying.
So my barber pun intended, is a Clippers fan. No joke,
my barber, Addy. We had to change our appointment this
week because last night he went to the new into it.
(15:20):
What is it? What is it? Dumb? Yeah, yeah, Clipper.
He showed me videos. That place looks sick everything about it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
But if modern technology, if you build a new arena
or stadium right.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Now, it's going to be so slick. Remember they got
like cannons to shoot out of the screens for the fans.
You see that. Do you see the scoreboard? It's like
a circle? Like dude, just keep that in mind all
the time. When does an iPhone change a sports change
any change? For the most part, it's done with good
intentions to make the game better. I get it. Old
(15:53):
school cats will never like it, but keep it open mind.
That's all. We don't have the hardbot it. We don't
want to be preachy. It just I was shot. I
was shocked that social media feedback was very leaning in
the direction of the stinks and I'm like, now you're
just saying everything stinks. Just be fair though it might suck,
but it's still too early to say. But Danny Gradio
(16:15):
on the radio, Danny G just gave you the stat
and I was actually pretty close. Yeah, you're rough roughly
eight out of ten kickoffs resulted in touchbacks, So eight
out of ten times you were getting zero actions and
nothing burger. As you would say, yeah, so if it
was a nothing burger, then what like I one of
the ones that I loved, and of course people hate change.
When they moved the extra point back, I mentioned that
(16:35):
yesterday it used to be so automatic that it was like, really,
all right, chip shot automatic seven When they made that
a reasonable field goal where it wasn't so automatic, that
was great. When they remember when they the NFL, when
we were kids, I know you might forget this, there
was no two point conversion. That was a college thing.
When they introduced a two point conversion to the NFL,
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there were people saying, you're ruining the gate. Would you
want the NFL right now to go back to no
two point conversions and only extra points from like the
three yard line? You wanted you were no, No, not
now let's say hi to is it bart Oh? Bert?
I was close? Hey, Bert and Georgia seven ninety nine
on Fox and at Covino and rich if you want
(17:17):
to chime in at Fox Sports Radio? What up? Bert?
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (17:20):
It is big Burt here?
Speaker 7 (17:21):
What's a big Burtino?
Speaker 5 (17:23):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (17:23):
How you guys doing Camino rich Man? First time caller
but a long time listener. Man, It's like it's like
sitting down having a couple of beers with you every evening,
thank you and enjoying the advancher you guys do man, keep
it up. So I was saying, you know, change is
not always a good thing. You know, that's especially when
it especially when when when you think about TV shows
where they try to switch out the cast but don't
even let you know that.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
They vive Hey, I'm old, viv Man, I'm free at
viv Man. I'm you know, when First Print switched it out,
I was like, nah, but I still watch the show.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
But it wasn't the same.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But you know what I like to I'm a positive guy.
So I like to look at life as Jefferson was
better than Steve on married with children, So sometimes change
is good. Yeah, and Furley was better than Roper in
my opinion, you know was better than Fairley, just brought
more lamps in my opinion. Well that was great, but
Fairley was better, you know, Missus Roper.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But at least they presented them as two separate characters.
Can you imagine if they tried to trick your cousins? Yeah, like,
oh no, it's the same guy. He just looks a
little different today.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I got it. I got a question for you that
that's what Bert was really getting at. Yeah, he doesn't
like being dupe, like yay, whoa, don't mistake my intell.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Prince of bel Air fans were upset with an viv disappearing.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Well, you're the one that brought up Roper's so I
got to ask my favorite question. Oh boy, when you
think back to childhood TV shows, mm hm, not cartoons
like the shows you and your family watch, the Who's
the Bosses, the Growing Pains, the Fresh Princes, the Alps,
the Cosby shows. Before he was creepy? Who was the
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most how do I say this polightly chalked up woman
in television? Oh? Mona from Who's the Boss? Mona from
Who's the Boss? Missus Roper, Stanley or Blanche from the
Golden Girls. Oh what about peg Bundy or peg Bundy?
They were all horned up? Can I say that? I
think you can. I can't. I mean, you know Peg Bundy,
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Blanche or Missus Roper. That might be the Mount Rushmore
Missus Roper. Remember mister Roper couldn't keep up with her.
Angela Mona Mona is always down for something. Bro Mona
would have jumped on Tony had she had the OA
hey you and Blanche. Yeah goodness. So yeah, change isn't
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always good. It's like your dad when he shaved his mustache.
At one time. You're like, oh, what did you do
forget peg Bundy. I would sit on the couch and
she'd be up in the bedroom and be like ah,
and he just didn't want any of that. It's not
always good, but the intention is good and it's too
early to tell. The new kickoff again didn't provide much excitement.
It will, but if you watched and paid attention to
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social media, you would have thought it's ruining the NFL,
and we're here to tell you it relaxed. The minute
DB's Seahawks are down late in the game and they
throw DK Metcalf back there and he busted open to
the fifty yard line and gives the Seahawks like a chance.
Then we're gonna say, oh yeah, look at that's the
excitement when the Dolphins are in a tight game and
(20:26):
they're like, yo, Tyreek Hill get in there and he
he turns on the Jets and he makes it past
midfield to Danny.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
You know today's point. I feel the same way. I
don't even know if they're gonna get to the fifty.
I think you're gonna get all or nothing. I think
they're tackled or they're gone. Yeah, because that right, the
female rugby player, that was just God. And that's what
I think we're gonna get with this. I don't think
there's gonna be any because I think it's gonna be
so difficult from anybody on the other side of the
field to have any sort of angle to go up
and make a tackle.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Can get him on that first on that first up, Yes,
called collision of what you call the first uh, you know,
with the first line of defense.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So there's like two little creases you could see open
and if you don't hit one of those at full speed,
you're not getting through that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Wall on for when that defense at offensive line make
first contact. You're right one or two bed blocks on
the left or right, Someone's going to see a hole
and it might be yeah gone.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
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Speaker 1 (22:06):
If you're keeping score at home and you got to
be a major nerd to do that, I'm score card out.
Oh six three put out. It is what the third
of August right, man popped out, August second popped out
to left again. Seventh August seving, which means we're a
week away from my birthday. Circle it no, but uh,
let's see August thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth. We're pulling the
(22:29):
Dan Patrick hat trick, so just giving you fair warnings
a bunch of Dan Patrick fillins this month. Kavin on
Rich will be doing our DP. Like you said, the
hat trick. I think we're going to fill in for
him more than you think. And I'll tell you why.
I saw Dan Patrick on Instagram and he talked to
the Sandman, Harry Sandler, and this is common knowledge because
(22:50):
he put it on his public knowledge. He put it
on his Instagram. Adam Sandler told him he'd be playing
himself in the new Happy Gilmour movie and he is
waiting for the the shoot schedule. So Dan Patrick might
have to take some time off to be part of
Happy Gilmore two, which is pretty awesome, huh. I would
love to hear that conversation between the Sandman and Dan PASSI.
(23:10):
Hey Dan, great talk, Hey Danny, Yeah, I'm gonna need
you gold jacket, green jacket, who gives it? I can't wait?
So hey, listen out for us filling in. And of
course we're here every day and we have our bonus
podcast over promised. A new episode available on Fox Sports
Radio's YouTube page. Now I want to give you a
(23:30):
name to think about, Peter Edward Rose, better know Pete Rose.
This docu series is something that if you haven't watched already,
should be on your radar if you're a big sports fan.
Because I've only heard good things. It's on my weekend
to watch list when we go over weekend hobnobbing. But
I saw a clip on social media, and since a
(23:51):
lot of people are talking about Pete Rose, I thought
this was really really interesting. They asked Pete Rose what
he's most proud of record wise take a lesson.
Speaker 9 (24:01):
Well, I have all the records, but the best record
I have, Okay, seriously think about this. The best record
I have is I played in the game for my
team nineteen hundred and seventy two times and we won.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
The game has two hundred more than.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
The guy second, And the guy second is a pretty
good player's name was Carl Yascriumsky. So when you're two
hurred ahead of the second guy for the most wins,
just take if you come up tomorrow and you play
nineteen years in a row and you win one hundred
games every year, and no one will probably won one
hundred this year, You're still going to be seventy seventh
game short. That's a good record games won.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Amazing stat because he has so many other personal accolades
that you know about. That's a stat that I had
never heard, and I agree, I never heard of carl
Ya Scrumsky either. Obviously he means call you pets. But
Pete Rose can say whatever he wants. He's eighty one
years old. I don't want to go over unbreakable records.
(25:00):
Cal Ripken, that's not the conversation. The conversation is how
remarkable that is. And there are some people that are
far superior to whoever will be in second place, And
when you just do the basic numbers, they're ub shird.
I'm only gonna name two others and we'll get the
Dan Buyer for an update. But you heard Pete Rose
saying if some guy started his big league career today
(25:23):
and played on a hundred win team for just shy
of twenty years every year, they still wouldn't have as
many wins as a baseball player as Pete Rose. That's insane.
I mean, he played a long time, and he was
great for a long time. You could be on a
winning team, you could be on a winning team. I'm
like Derek Jeter played what fifteen plus years with the
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Yanks twenty years. There were years that they won eighty
eight games, eighty six games, ninety two games. He's not
close to Pete Rose now. That Yankee team was synonymous
with winning, Ee rolling Lee synonymous with winning. Like you said,
Cary Stremsky, pretty big name in baseball, two hundred behind
in second place. And I don't bring this guy up
just because I'm a forty nine Ers fan, but I
(26:05):
always find Jerry Rice's number stupid. They're gonna say, like
Nolan Ryan. Oh, Nolan Ryan's strikeout record. I mean again,
I don't want to talk about unbreakable, but guys now
might get two hundred strikeouts over five thousand would be
like you could combine a whole pitching stuff. No one's
gonna break Pete Rose's records. It's not gonna happen. And
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because of this documentary at HBO Max, he's been just
I don't want to say just as but almost all
right close second in polarizing this week to the women's
boxing in the Olympics, because so many people are like man,
Pete Rose bunks in the Hall of fame and everyone's like, nah, man,
he's no, he has no remorse. He's an a hole.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I'll go as far to say as the polarizing opinions
on Pete Rose are that of President Trump. You either
love him or you don't. In the documentary they say
there's something, there's a Trump like quality about him that
rubs people the wrong way. They actually say that in
this documentary. For everyone that's being rubbed the wrong way
is someone that's like I like that. Yeah, so you
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give him the old guy pass right, he's an old guy. Yeah,
that's the old guys. Well think, let me give you
the Jerry Rice one quick, and they will go to
Dan Bayer Jerry Rice. If you averaged if a wide
receiver entered the NFL today and played fifteen years and
averaged one hundred receptions, fifteen hundred yards a season and
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thirteen touchdowns a season, they would still fall shy of
all of Jerry Rice's record. That's insane. That is insane.
That would be like justin Jefferson doing what he's doing,
or I'm on Ross Saint Brown or one of these
one of these elite guys. DeVante Adams imagine doing it
for another decade at even a higher level. Just it's impossible.
So just keep in mind that great stat of Pete Rose.
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By the way, love him or hate him, that's not
from the documentary. It's just that so many people are
talking about him because of this new documentary. These clips
have on viral. That's just a random interview clip with
some kid that wanted to ask him about his his
favorite records. Because he's a three time World Series winner,
he's the hit leader. He would have been four as
a manager, but he was banned the year before in
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nineteen ninety Panella got it dB.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
That is up for debate. Maybe Lou Panella had his
own magic. But to your point, I will say this,
if they would have handed down Pete Rose a suspension
of thirty years at the time then he was banned,
would we have thought like that was sufficient, Like you
know if Bartie Mudy was like thirty year band.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, he thought it was going to be a one
year band, That's what he said. He thought it was
going to be a one year thing. And yeah, exactly,
the still dealing. I'm not comparing crimes, but people murder
people and they get thirty years. Sure, Well he says this,
I'm quoting Pete Rose kind of. He goes, I'm sad
to say this, but if I was a drunkard, he says,
if I was a drunkard or a woman beater, he
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would have been better off. Like, we're also sitting here
assuming that everybody in the Hall of Fame were great guys. Yeah,
you know, he's a flawed dude. He was a great
baseball player.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
And honestly, after watching the documentary, I don't think he
should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But yeah, yeah, like it's the wrong way. Yeah, yeah,
you can start. You know who you know feels the
same way. Dann Buyer, our buddy Jay Stu from The
Guy Show. He's like, I don't like him before. Now
we both agree with that.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
But tweet, if you gave him the thirty Year Band
at the time, he'd be like, Wow, that's that's a lot,
and so it would have been over now. I'll and
I'll also just add this, then I'll get to all
this other stuff. If it's it's one thing to ban him,
I don't know if he would get the amount of votes.
I know it was mentioned in the documentary that maybe
there's a younger generation that would be more willing, but
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still you have to reach that seventy five threshold. If
you were to go on like Bob Costas mentioned, if
there was a veteran aspect, maybe that's not an easier route,
but it would be numbers wise. I'm not even sure
he'd get the seventy five if he went normal.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yo, dB. Speaking of that percentage, I saw. I don't
want that point. I don't want to crap your update,
but I saw a petition going around the Bay Area
for the Giants to sign Barry Bonds for a one
day contract because then it would make him re eligible
sure for a bunch of more years. So oh wow.
And I was like, what a fun little loophole, like
Barry Bond's a one day contract and maybe down the
(30:29):
line people will change their minds. Sure. Interesting. Speaking of Friday, yes,
Buddy makes me think of ice Cube. I saw ice
Cube on TV today on McAfee, and you know how
you're like half paying attention, Yeah, well that's what I
was doing. And they're talking about how bad the three
on three Olympic team was for the USA, and we
(30:51):
joked about it. We're like, who's playing the three on
three tournament Brad, Tad and Chad. Who are the dudes
that you go out from montalk three dudes that'll school
us sorts. Let's keep it real. But we're like, who
it is, guys, And we came absurdly low in that tournament.
And ice Cube was going on and on about how
(31:11):
maybe this gives him more more power in the future
to take the Big Three into the Olympics, have his
Big three teams in there. But I think he did
throw it out if I'm not mistaken. Like I said,
I was half listening where he said that the winner
should play the winners in his league just to see, like,
(31:32):
just to go for it for money, Why not you know,
a shot he said something along those lines. Anyway, I
digest now coming up, this is something I want to
get to. We are going to play like you said,
Chipotle worker or Olympian. Yeah, I can't wait. But something
else before the end of today's show. Today we're going
to focus on the AFC. So everyone do your little
homework in your head. Every year, what do they say
(31:53):
in the NFL there's roughly six or seven teams that
are new to the postseason, which means six or seven
teams take a step back, six or seven teams poop
the med. So what teams do you think are taking
a step back and who takes those playoff spots? Today
we'll break down the AFC, go over some fun predictions.
(32:16):
Who do you think is in or out way ahead
of time in the AFC. We'll do that about a
half hour from now, So AFC start thinking who in
their league? Who in the AFC? All right now, we
already said. Pete Rose is a really polarizing story this
week because of the new documentary, people are finally getting
(32:36):
some time to watch it. Some people are like, he's old,
he was a great baseball player. He should be in
the Hall of Fame. He did his time. Other people
are like, he still shows no remorse. He says stupid things.
He's a he's just a liar dude. But I think
he believes his own lies. And you're like, nah, he
(32:58):
doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. So very polarizing,
but not as polarizing as the Women's Olympics boxing story
that happened this week. A Main Khalif of Algeria Angela
Karini of Italy. She gave up forty six seconds she's
never been hit that hard ever, and turns out that
a main klif had tested previously for high levels of
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testosterone came back within x Y chromosome. Women, as you know,
are xx And it's causing a lot of people to
debate whether or not this is fair. This is okay?
The Olympics committee said it is. I'd be shocked to
find many people that think it's fair. I just want
everyone to know the facts because there's a lot of
(33:42):
just misinformation. You see people repost memes and things they
see that are like, that's just not true. And Logan
Paul WWE superstar boxer influencer he yesterday said, this is
the purest form of evil unfolding before our eyes. A
man allowed to beat up woman on the global stage,
crushing her life's dream while fighting for her deceased father.
(34:06):
This delusion must end and it was sad to see that. Yeah,
Logan Paul then walked back those remarks with a oopsies.
Was it a oopsie or like a whoopsie? He actually wrote, oopsies, Okay,
I might be guilty of spreading misinformation along with the
entirety of the social media world. Although she's been previously
disqualified for failing a quote gender test. Yes, she found
(34:27):
the gender ability test with an x Y. She has
an x Y chromosome. She was, however, born a biological woman.
I'm not saying I still think she should meet in
this competition, but the narrative that she's transgender and was
born a man and went through the surgery and now
she's a woman, that's just incorrect. Just to make it clear,
that is incorrect. So what you're saying is what Logan
(34:50):
Paul is retracting here and a lot of people are attracting,
is she's not transgender, but that doesn't mean she doesn't
have physical advantages. Oh exactly. I'm making that very clear.
I still don't believe even biologically, I still don't believe.
It feels right to me saying, but we want to
be factual, right, and the facts are that she was
born with female body parts. Now she may have been
(35:14):
no one knows the exact details. But some are saying
she could have been born with both, which is a rarity,
and they're saying she might have dude parts that haven't dropped.
And I very much think you this person is a rarity,
and it's an interesting if you make exceptions for one
rarity and put other x ex women's health and safety
(35:35):
at jeopardy for that exception, it becomes dangerous. Oddly enough,
it just somehow becomes political and polarizing, where let common
sense take over, right, And it's like, first of all,
you want to be factual. And again I've seen friends,
family members, people you know, and you're like, that's a
pretty smart person, and they're reposting inaccuracies. I just don't
(35:58):
want inaccuracies. I let me make it clear. I don't
think this seems fair, but she's not transgender exactly. So
let's let the facts be true and then make your opinion.
And my opinion still remains the same. I think there's
something just wrong about it. Yeah, my opinion hasn't changed.
(36:18):
But I think the only thing we're saying here is
she's not transgender. I never said she was, but there
is a strong narrative that she is. Listen, I we
try our best to be accurate. I've got two facts
for you.
Speaker 10 (36:31):
Okay, this isn't the first time that this Italian boxer
has bowed out of about before it was decided all right,
she's forfeited or thrown in the towel before. Uh so
maybe she's not the best at take in hard punches.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You know, who should have thrown the towel Duke when
Apollo is getting killed by driving town.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
Kalif has lost six times in her professional career to
other women.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
So women have beat her.
Speaker 10 (36:54):
So let's we don't want some unstoppable like lad of
a person. This is someone who is defeatable and yeah,
has incredible skills, but I just think, yeah, like let's say,
let's say, let's let's put this out there. What if
people were like, okay, Iman Khalif is gonna fight men,
(37:14):
how do we feel about that? She's born? No, she's
got to fight men. Now, people would be even more
outraged because now it's now that was born a woman.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Men. Yes, come on, let's get let's listen. Yeah, but
that's why. Hey, you know you just got to shrug
your shoulders and say, well, then maybe she shouldn't be
fighting in the Olympics. Yeah, but she's but she it
is kind of unfair to the women looks as I
hate to say this, like she's got as a girl dad,
but it's true. You know, he's got very physical attributes
as a girl dad. As as anyone who has a daughter,
(37:44):
a sister, a mother, or wife. Don't you think that
they're going against unfair biological biological advantages if she has
higher testosterone levels and she has the x y Y chromosome.
I understand she has a vagina in the uterus like
all women, but there is still a difference there that
puts other women at an unfair advantage, but unsafe advantage.
(38:08):
That's the thing. And I would hate as a as
a parent to see my kid take their talents to
the highest stage in the world only to lose in
this manner. However, fitting doesn't changed. But we're just being faction. Great,
let it be clear. This is not the same as
Lea Thompson trying to swim with women. I don't know.
This is a not and it's unfortunate for me and
(38:30):
Khalif because you don't know, well, what do they do
with this type of person? Maybe you fight another person
like that.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Listen, it's not it's not what I say, Leah Thomas.
I'm sorry, I said Lea Thompson. Lea Thompson, what does
the mom back have to do it? It was Lea Thompson,
the mom in Back to the Future. Yes, she is
not swimming. She is not a transgender swimmer. She is
the mom on Back to the Future. Of course, it's
a polarizing, touchy situation and subject that got people riled
(38:57):
up on social media. Got us riled up. We talked
about it on our Patreon in depth. Again, you just update,
that's the update. You've seeing a lot of people sort
of taking back what they said or taking back some
of the misinformation they were they were spewing. I think
we want to just have accurate information out there and
then make your your judgment. By the way, give you
(39:18):
the accurate information when you're talking about it over a
barbecue this weekend. Yeah, when when you're hanging with your
buddies on fight night watching Bud Crawford, at least you
got some of the real scoop. Yeah. There's nothing worse
than trying to make your point and you're like, oh man,
my info is wrong. That's that's really all we're trying
to I'm not trying to tell you what to believe
or what the think.
Speaker 10 (39:36):
The problem with when these stories come out and everyone
starts feeding on them like piranhas is that we don't
let time we don't take the time to let the
info sync in. That's the thing right off of what
they're reading. Like the first article they read I saw, I.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Saw a family member post something completely inaccurate, and I
felt I didn't want to comment, but I DM them like, hey,
what you posted, it's just inaccurate. I don't want you
to look dumb, but you know what, you could have
your opinion, and you could be a very open minded,
loving person like I don't you know you could have
the take. O do we have to even explain that
we here on the show feel that people can live
(40:11):
however they want to live. That's just facts, like you
know from Cavino and Rich, We don't care about it.
You'd be a pretty bad person talking about the safety
of other just regular women. You'd be a pretty you know,
be a pretty bad person if you aren't, if you
aren't open minded to be like, hey, listen, live the
way you want to live. But when it comes into
sport and competition and health and safety, your opinions and
but this isn't even a story of live how you
(40:33):
want to live. This is how this woman was born.
Speaker 10 (40:36):
Yeah, exactly, so do we did we ever worry about
the health and safety of anybody going up against Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, but again, and those are physical advantages, and I
think it's harder than other physical advantages and biological advantages,
like biological difference. Let me ask you are a difference there,
because people keep saying, well, what about the differences in
heightened basketball? I'm like, those are physical differences, dude, there's
a how do you not see the difference? I was saying,
not to put you on the spot, but let me
(41:01):
ask you, just man to man, if you were at
Ralph's Supermarket, you're grabbing some chicken salad, would I was,
sam eat, I feel like chicken salad. You're a hot
pocket type of guy. No, I'm not.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
I just should go there and just buy like a
like macaroni salad. I'll buy like a premde Saints. I'll
make you some famous chicken salads.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
I I would say. I'm saying, with a tub of
macaroni salad, just that sad and alone and position. So
I was saying, you're in You're in Ralph's and I'm
not saying you're a fighter. But if some dude was like, yo,
watch where you're going and he throws you to the
floor and punches you. You to defend yourself. May hit
(41:40):
that guy back? Would you hit a woman back?
Speaker 10 (41:44):
If someone was attacking me, I would defend myself regardless
of who they are.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You'd at least get in a crane kick position, at
least put someone in that somebody supposed to say, like
my reaction, My reaction, you know, would would be very
different if some dude stepped up to me at Ralph's
I may, you know, defend myself differently if a woman did.
I distance myself, And that's how most men would operate. Yes, yes,
there is a correct answer in that question.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
Of course I'm not I'm not gonna hit a woman.
But I'm saying if someone is like, like, let's say
a woman has a knife and it's starting to test
at me, of course I'm gonna. I'm gonna I don't
care who it is, I'm gonna defend myself. Do you
think Aman Khalif though, is feels bad, like like in
the back of her mind, she's like, well, I'm something
else and I'm beating up on women. No, She's like,
(42:31):
I'm a woman and I'm just better than everybody. Yeah,
to her, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That is her truth. So it's a very tricky one.
It's a good point. Can I just give every a
little advice? Don't take it so serious? Don't don't you don't.
Don't fight with your friends and family about something. That
quote you posted that Van Wilder how fun fun. Don't
take life too seriously. You never make it out alive. Right, Yeah,
I would. I would also have to say this hasn't
been probably hasn't been easy on her.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
No, like get back to that point, like I don't
think that it's uh, you know, I'm better than on everybody.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
And it's like, where do you fit in? Yeah, supposed
to fight. I just want to compete. But and I
and I understand that, and I sympathize, but it's not
at the expense of all these other You don't want
to regular weigh in the ring.
Speaker 11 (43:14):
Everyone purchased sport, but everyone purchased their jump to conclusions
Matt Amazon, Well.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
That's the update.
Speaker 11 (43:22):
They're just they're just regurgitating what they're hearing from other
people and not looking at the facts.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, but you could still know the facts and say, well,
I still think it no one knows the facts. I
still think it's unfair you. Well, you look at you
walk in the studio ten seconds ago.
Speaker 11 (43:35):
No one has the real facts. Everyone's just thinking, oh,
they're hearing something. They're oh, there's almost I'm outranged. I
don't know why, but I'm outraged.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
You know what's called spot in German kluchisa that means
know what all means. It's like, I do understand that
XX is a woman in an x Y is a male.
She came up x Y. I understand she has female parts.
I understand the story, and I still think it's an
unfair advantage. That was estosterol levels.
Speaker 11 (44:00):
That was an unofficial statement released by someone who was
part of the organization, not the actual test results that
were released to the public. They were never released to
the public. You'd feel stoked about it. Least your daughter
was fighting them just in that situation. Apparently there's some
controversy behind it. So until everyone knows the one hundred
percent facts, it's all hearsay or gray area. So everyone's
just making assumptions based on what they're hearing from someone else.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
You know, That's why I rather talk about Italian cheese.
Italian cheese are the best. I mean, posing with bricks
and wheels of Parmesan who was lifting.
Speaker 10 (44:30):
With the cheese that you posted that was some other Okay,
that was amazing. I had to send that to myself.
I was like, he enjoy your good week for cheese.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I rather talk about French diving bulge guy. All right. Hey,
by the way, if you if you want to hear
about the real highlights of the Olympics, we covered them
on over promised Fox Sports Radios YouTube page is available.
Check it out when we're done later today. And speaking
of Olympians, if you still have thoughts on this, we'll
get to them later. We have a game to play.
(45:01):
We're gonna play Olympian or Chipotle Worker right now. We
got to play a game. Let's do it, Braced, Let's
play a game that is clearly sweeping the nation, Chipotle
Worker Olympia, and we turn over to our host, the
(45:22):
Great Danny g Yo. Yeah, yeah, you will.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Normally we do WNBA players, as everyone turned into a
sudden expert on that league. Yes, but since we are
smack dab in the middle of the Olympics right now,
now everybody hopefully knows who our Olympians are, We're gonna
find out some of those names or we'll give some
props to the Chipotle workforce. So we're doing Olympian or
(45:47):
Chipotle worker. Got some contestants on the board here, Buyer,
I'm gonna use.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
You for this. It could be the bad guy or
the good guy.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Would you love to travel to Shalor Pittsburgh, Grundy Center, Iowa, Jackson, Michigan, Spokane,
Washington or winter Park, Florida?
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Was second city? Exactly? Been a topic here? What game
did we play Iowa? Sam? Do to remember what it was?
Speaker 7 (46:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Or yeah? Yeah? It was gaining all the centers.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Discussing Iowa towns was a game we played once and
maybe when we filled them. For your guys, I gotta
go to Grundy Center. Yeah, I vacation, David.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
How are you today?
Speaker 7 (46:31):
Not bad?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Thanks for the yeah. Now what do you do in
Grundy Center for a living? Manufacturers? Grundyes we go.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Our contestants are Coveno, Rich, spot Buyer, Iowa, Sam and
David in beautiful Iowa. All right, and now David, you
just can't come in last place. You're gonna walk away
with a prize. Okay, Spotty is going to keep scores.
We do the eight rounds here all right, Coveno, you're
up first, All right? Chipotle worker or Olympian Emily Fox.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Oh, Olympia. Wait your turn by stand Van Grundy. I'm first.
I'm gonna say Chipotle worker. All right, Rich, I'm I'm
gonna go Olympian. She might sounds like a like a swimmer.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Spotty boy, I'm gonna say Olympia buyer, Olympian, Iowa, Samuel,
I'm gonna say Olympian, David.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Now you turn, Sorry about that? All good.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Emily Fox is a member of the US women's soccer team.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
All right.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Next name for consideration, Coveno, Chipotle worker or Olympian Isabella
DuPont DuPont.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
That is Olympian. Rich, That's the woman I gave a
little look to. And I'm like more guac wink wink,
Chipotle worker. Spot Oh, Isabella DuPont. I'm gonna say Olympian buyer.
I'm gonna go Olympian as well.
Speaker 10 (48:04):
Sam, I'm gonna a wrestler. Wasn't there that movie about
the DuPont family or whatever? The one Steve Crell was
an ug Olympian, David.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Isabella DuPont is a crew member for Chipotle and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
I thought she was on Crewe. What wrestling movie you watch?
And I was Fox Catcher.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
It's not the greatest star Chipotle workers, right, or Olympian Cavino.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Next name Avery Skinner Olympian Rich, oh, Avery Skinner Olympian
for sure.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Spot Chipotle worker, Bayer, Olympian Sam, Chipotle worker David and Iowa.
Avery Skinner is a member of the US women's volleyball.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeahbuddy, probably a distant relative of former baseball player Joel Skinner.
Look him up for the wrestler Skinner. All right?
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Next name Coveno, Chipotle worker or Olympian Catherine Peters Chipotle worker, Spot,
Olympian Rich. I'm going Chipotle Olympian Sam, David Olympia. Catherine
Peters is Chipotle's director of procurement for the US.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, alright, she's the one that decided to unveil the
case a couple of years ago. All right, here that choice.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Next name Coveno, the choice Chipotle worker or Olympian Jasmine Moore.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Oh, definitely Olympia Rich Jasmine Moore sounds like she is
winning a medal. I'm going Olympian.
Speaker 11 (49:40):
Spotty, something in like track and field. I'm gonna say Olympian.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Buyer, Olympian, Sam Olympian, she's a shooter, David shoot up. Wow,
Spotty actually was right on. She's a member of the
USA tracking.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, an insider info a right, next name Covino, Stephanie Roebel,
Stephanie Robel, Chipotle Rich Stephanie Roebol. Oh, she might be
a shooter. I'm going with that. I'm gonna go Olympian
Stephanie and Stephanie Roebols. Yeah, it sounds very olympic, say
(50:15):
Olympian buyer. Can I get a spelling on Robol? Please?
Speaker 5 (50:18):
Is it r O B L?
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Is that where we're r O B L E Chipotle?
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Okay, Samuel, I'm gonna go cherobylta what Chipotle? Dave David
in Grundy Center, what Olypia Stephanie Robels indeed a member
of the team US Sailing, she's a sailor for us A.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
All right, Uh.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
The next name Coveno and the final Actually we got
two last ones here, so second to last Laurna Freemouth,
Laurna Freemouth.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
That's a Chipotle working Sure. Yeah, I feel like she's
in charge of She's the one that says what type
of beans and rice spotty. We would say Chipotle as well.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Buyer Olympian sam She's got to be like a fencer.
Olympian David Lorna freemanth is a senior SCCM engineer for
Chipotle in Ohio. All Right, and last, but not least, Colvino.
The name Margot Ward. Margot Ward Olympian Rich.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
She is not asking or telling you that walks extra.
She's an Olympian. She's winning gold baby spotty Olympian buyer,
Go Olympics. Samuel Olympics.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
David Marco Ward is a member of the US equestrian
team Marco Quest.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Tell you this up now, as long as you're not
in last place, you win. That's really it. I'll tell
you who you didn't be Grundy Center for me because
I was perfect, really he was. I was eight for eight.
You are Olympian except one. As your dad would probably say,
Oh you should play the lottery tonight.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
Ay you should bought some scratch offs on the way home.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
Today's lucky date. But we got what do we got?
All right? Uh? Tied for?
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Uh?
Speaker 11 (52:17):
Let's say first, Rich went first, tied for there's a
three way tie for the middle for the middle.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
That would be Steve Comino, me oh spot and our
caller last way sampired, Sam Wow, Dan fired, Sam keeping
last Yeah, sorry, guys, I mean David wins.
Speaker 11 (52:42):
Dave, you win a beautiful sweeye, Iowa, Iowa a grundy swigger.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Congratulations David, he appreciate it. Hey, thanks for playing man,
Chipotle worker or Olympian. Our way of getting you to
know some of the people competing over the weekend and
your favorite place to buy a Brito Bull. We could
go division by division of the AFC today. We'll hit
up the NFC next week. Let's start with the AFC East. Danny,
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I'll kick it to you if you want to start
with the Bills. Do we feel like the Bills are
just wildcard or division winner, the Bills are are set?
Or no, they're gonna go to the playoffs again.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
I know it's kind of like a trendy thing you've
been hearing on radio and TV that oh, the Bills
are definitely going to take a step back. Well, they
lost the weapons and you know, okay, but they still
have Josh Allen. They still have a really nice defense,
so they're definitely at least going to be a wild
card team in my mind.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
Now I got the three teams. I got my three
teams that are going to be out this show. And
I think the AFC East is where one of your
switcher rules takes place, because as I see your notes,
you got some Dolphins Jets action Dolphins out Jets because
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I just think I feel they peaked, that's all.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
I also have the Dolphins written down in Covino. The
reason I think that because Mike McDaniel is a g
He's from your forty nine er coaching tree.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Rich.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
But the Dolphins lost Wilkins, b Jones, Van Ginkel, who
was an important defensive part of their team and Hunt,
and so I think McDaniel might need a next offseason
to fully restock that team.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
There in my own then get the hell out of
my life. Who need you beat it?
Speaker 7 (54:24):
Leave me alone?
Speaker 1 (54:25):
And we often talk about the window a team's window
to win, right, don't you feel like that window has
been open for the past three seasons. That's what Danny
G was saying. People are also saying about the Bills,
but I have more faith than Josh Allen even with
less weapons, and Tua's got that big contract. You see
the Meme where it's TWOA makes more in one year
than Dan Marino made in his whole career. So there's
a lot of pressure on Tua to be the guy
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that everyone thinks, right, you get that big deal. They
might not be bad, Danny G. But sometimes nine and
eight or ten and seven might not be enough in
a very competitive AFC, especially with the Jets and Aaron
Rodgers at full strength. And I don't know, I feel
like you're looking at Bills Jets making the playoffs, Dolphins
may fall just shy. I think we all agree on that,
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which means, sorry, someone if we're going to play the
stats of seven new teams, think all three of those
teams could make it. Yeah, but someone's got to be out.
And I let's let's agree for now that the Dolphins
Jets might be the switch there. So there's one of
your switches. Right, Let's go to the north where I
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think one of them is obvious to me. You you
might say, I'm upsetting the biggest fan base in the AFC,
YAH Steelers, and this Mike Tomlin can't be under five hundred.
It's got to end eventually. And Russell Wilson, he's already
a little banged up Justin Fields. I think this is
the year where it's a little question marks. It's a
little back to reality for the Steelers. Too many question
marks and the Bengals are back this year. That's how
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I feel about it. Do you think, Danny G I
mean we I th that's what I had written down.
I know I had three teams written down, and I
know Rich had three. We both had this Steelers out. Yeah,
I like watching me. I do like watching Justin Fields
on Sunday. But since they barely squeaked into the AFC
seven seed last season, it's going to be a tough
row to ho And do you know that the Steelers
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have the third toughest strength of schedule. I did not,
which that just adds too much as too Listen, they
could be eight and nine, seven and ten, and you know,
be in that middle of the pack. But I don't
think they're sneaking because they snuck in last year. So
with the Bengals having Joe Burrow back, if he stays healthy,
it's hard to imagine Burrow and Lamar Jackson both being
in the playoffs. So if you got ravens oh side notes,
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speaking of Joe Burrow, more reason to watch that Pete
Rose documentary. It starts off with how fond he is
of Joe Burrow. Really yeah, it starts off with a
lot of Joe Burrow. All right, So I have you
got Ravens and Bengals in what about the Browns? Do
you think the Browns take a step back? You think
the Browns maintain that wild card as well? I do,
And here's why my reasoning is kind of stupid. But again,
what are we working with right now? Browns has a
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lot of Browns have the toughest the number one toughest
strength of schedule. But there's a lot that we talked about,
the whispers of Deshaun Watson, like really being ready this
season and really bringing it like, oh man, you don't
know he's looking good? Man. I feel like that's just
all hype. And anytime we hear that hype, like anytime
for even just as long as we've been doing the show,
wherever there's hype, it's usually like, well, what was that
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hype all about?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
I can understand arguing or debating Cleveland. I'm gonna be
the yeah but guy, sure, yeah? But Rich do you
remember that defense against your Niners last season?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Damn good. Yeah, man, that defense is gonna win some
games and a full season of the Shawn. So I
think I'm I'm keeping the Browns in there. So as
of right now, my outs are just Remember we had
the same hype last year about the Giants, about the Steelers,
you know, like that hype rarely comes to fruition. So
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we'll see what happened. See, this is where I'm tricky.
So now I'm gonna give you a little switcheroo here this.
I think Houston is a great team. In fact, I
may pick the under on them in Vegas because people
think Houston's gonna pick it up. I love. I was
wondering Stroud bring that sort of hype again, that sort
of level of play is there like a sophomore Jinks there.
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Could they have figured him out a little bit, but
he had some fire in his eyes even yesterday. On
the side, he has a good squad. Yeah, he has
a has a good you know, good receiving care around him. Jet.
But Danny g do you remember last year the Jacksonville Jags.
They have a good head coach, Doug Peterson. They were
six and two. They bumped into the forty nine Ers,
and after that they were never the same. They were
one of the best teams in the AFC. So I
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want to be shocked if Jacksonville rebounded and Houston found
themselves as one of those nine to eight teams that
are good but might be on the outside looking in.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
Right, Eh, big question mark there. I know I still
believe in CJ. Stroud.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Okay, now let's go to your AFC West realistically, Danny,
do you believe in your Raiders? Do you still think
they're Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
I feel like their defense is now good enough to
make could push for the wild card.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
Okay, I think the Chargers have one of the weakest
strength of schedules, and you know that the Chargers start
out playing this is gonna be a big one week one, Danny,
because they play the Raiders. Correct the Chargers with new
head coach Jim Harbaugh. They play the Raiders, the Panthers,
the Steelers, then a tough one against the Chiefs, then
they play Broncos, Cardinals, Saints. Like the Chargers, after about
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eight or nine games, could be like six and two.
If they play at a at a level that's something
they could play at, the Chargers might be your surprise
wildcard team, And who's to say that the always healthy,
always figure it out Chiefs will stay that way this year.
You no, No, that's a success. And they only won
five games last year. So if you think they're going
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to be six and two in their first day games,
I mean, that's a major improvement. I think you're crazy.
I might be crazy, but still that you would have
to say, even if they don't make the playoffs, well,
at least.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
They're in the right direction. Yeah, coach is going to
make them better for sure. I don't know if they're
going to be that much better that quick