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Covino & Rich are in for the great Dan Patrick! Someone on the show has a problem with Fernando Mendoza not attending the NFL Draft next week! They cover the biggest story in sports that has been flying under the radar as the Dallas Wings now have a power couple on the team! What happens if they break up? Plus, the one and only "Coach Ballgame" joins the show!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Cavino and Rich Yes, worldwide leaders of Nonsense for
Dan Patrick.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Day one.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
So you got two more days of this, guys, and
we're joined by Coach Ball Game later on today. So
we're bringing some fun, bringing some guests, plus midweek major
all your biggest stories in sports and pop culture. We're
here with Danny g the super Producer on the phones
at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. So give
us a call or you can chime in. You know,
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(00:34):
CoV I and O at Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
While you do.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
I wanted to shout out some ginger dude I saw
in the sauna yesterday, started small talking with me and
he's like, yoh, what do you do? Man?

Speaker 5 (00:45):
And I was sure he's gonna love the way you
described him.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, why did you start with that? Some chubby ginger dude?
Not a man, just a man.

Speaker 6 (00:52):
I'm not a ginger, I'm a strawberry blonde.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
So he's like, what do you doing? I was like,
you know, I'm a.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Talking of yappy guy, as you know, no kidding, but
I wasn't in I was not in the mood to
be small talking. But he's like, what do you do?
And I go, hey, I work in broadcasting. In fact,
tomorrow morning, I'm filling it for Dan Patrick, who goes
I listen to DP every morning. I go, then you'll
hear me. Have a good day. So hey, Red, you
know random ginger, I saw the sauna.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
What's up, dude. I'm sure he's happy to hear that.
You said.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
He look like little od for nanny. He's like Ed
Cheeran's ugly brother. I'm sure he's really talked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
And by the way, if I said blame it on
the what would the number one response be? Blame it
on the rain, alcohol or rain. Blame it on the goose,
or blame it on the boogie, Blame it on the
birds in the decade, name it. It's a generational question, right,
I would go rain as well, even though we're talking

(01:50):
Michael Jackson, blame it on the boogie, and look, we
have a lot to get to.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
And then when we were adults, blame it on the alcohol,
Blame it on the alcohol. We're live from the Fox
Sports Radio STO and the picks are coming in. But
Draft Knight isn't just about who gets called rich. It's
about who shows up.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
So Greb your crew, crack a Miller light and be
there for every moment that matters. Miller Light. Legendary moments
start with the light. And speaking of legendary draft moments,
Danny G's dude, well, not yet, but soon to me,
Danny G's dude, Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Can't wait to watch him on the field.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
The raid is his first misstep. A guy that has.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Done a guy that has done nothing wrong, a guy
that has a beautiful story with his mother and family,
A guy that has a beautiful story of a team
that gave up on him. He then leaves, goes to
a school with zero football history, makes him a national champion.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
And wins on the field of the team that said later.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, but what makes him so likable the fact that
he's a mama's boy, the fact that he seems to
be an all American family sort of kid. He seems
very grounded and humble, and I think that's why he
won the hearts of so many people. So for him
to make this choice. I feel like it's on brand,
and that choice is to stay home and celebrate with

(03:11):
his family next week. And as we approach the draft,
you know, I think it comes to mind again. Next
week's a crazy week. We already said Michael comes out, which,
by the way I look, he, in my opinion, is
the most popular person to ever moon walk this earth.
How about that since Jesus Christ? And there's a call

(03:31):
about this, because you know, I'd love to see, Well,
who do you think is more popular than Michael Jackson
in our lifetime?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Shakespeare?

Speaker 6 (03:39):
How about like Elvis?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Maybe previously I would say yeah, but I don't think
he transcended. He was in global demos the way Michael Jackson.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
Did right TV wasn't as much of a thing.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
But Elvis would be up there. But again, along with
Michael is the draft. So we got to talk about
Fernando Mendoza's choice to stay home.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
We're going to do that next. But let's take this phone.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
As Danny said, people have people have softened up on it,
and I have not.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
So don't you are because you're a raging lunatic A
Travis and Los Angeles washed a weigh in on the
Michael Jackson thing.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What up, Trav? You're not the redheaded ginder so at
the gym yesterday?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (04:16):
I'm not? But I remember when you guys were talking
about when you see someone that looks like a dollar
star version of a celebrity and you kind of change
the name a little bit, like Ted Sheeran or whatever.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, he was ned cheering, what's up, dude?

Speaker 7 (04:32):
But yeah, my other one, the Elvis one's good, but
uh the Beatles also? Oh wait, one more thing before
I before I go for the Michael movie, I want
to see Dan Byer go dressed up as Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Movie Dan Byers a fan. I think that's a schedu
weird dream.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
You don't know who's talking about Dan Byer? Does our updates?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Can you just give us your fantasy?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Sounds hot?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I want to see I want to see Dan Byer
dressed in Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Here after a Benny Hanna date that glows. You want
to see Dan Byron only a sequence glove?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
All right?

Speaker 4 (05:06):
So, Mendoza, we talked about it a while back, everyone
touched on it. But now that we're a week and
a day from the NFL Draft, teams are.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Really going over their notes.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
You know, fans are starting to figure, uh, we're gonna
have some new people on our squad in a week.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's gonna be fun. And watching someone walk through that.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Endorsement Leaden Tunnel throwing on their hat, holding up the jersey,
hugging Commissioner Goodell in front of thousands of people this
time in Pittsburgh is a moment.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
In fact, you should cue up.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
You should cub up a moment like this by Kelly Clarkson,
because that's how beautiful it is.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's a moment that lives forever.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
You see the highlights, you see the grainy footage of
all the drafts over the years, and Fernando Mendoza is
opting to stay at home with his family.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
It's beautiful. That's beautiful. Your priorities are off, that's beautiful.
That's beautiful. Get out of my face. That's a cool moment.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Maybe for you, it means more to this kid to
stay home and celebrate with his family he has. And
maybe because he has a big, beautiful family and Rich,
you're a guy, and this is no knock. Rich has
no cousins, He has no idea what it's like to
have like a big family surrounding him. And yeah, he
can go and party with him later on, but to
be there in that moment with his family is what

(06:29):
matters to him. This is his decision, this is his moment.
It doesn't matter what you think. And I said it before,
and this was no joke. There was a story when
I think when the championship happened, like right around that time.
You're getting a backstory for Nando Mendoza and why he
is who he is. And he's a proud Cuban kid
who comes from I said, a long life of Mendoza's.

(06:51):
This is no exaggeration.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, if he's a lot from a long one of Mendozas,
could he hit up Mets manager Carlo Londoza and kick
him in the ass?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Could you kick that guy in the ass.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
A little bit or something? Yeah, this is a true story.
I'm not making this up because I was blown away
by this because the last time I had a real
family reunion was like nineteen eighty something at some field
in New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
What are you, Adam Goldberg? And it was nineteen eighty something.
It really was. When's the last time you had a
block party or a family reunion. I think eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, exactly, like these things don't really exist. But every
four years, as the story went, every four years, the
Mendozas get together for a family reunion. And guess how
many people show up to this Mendoza family reunion.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
One hundred and fifty, No, over eight hundred.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
And I know that sounds absurd, Arena asking him for money.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, when you come from an immigrant family, you got
five you got five thousand dollars, and you're tight knit
and you have all these family members. Yeah, that sounds
like a great time. And what's he supposed to do? Uh,
bring two hundred of those people to a because I
got a business opportunity you can't pass up.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
He's supposed to hop on a plane with a even
a quarter of those people he doesn't know for this celebration.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, show me the nil money because.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
They all know him.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, but he doesn't know all them. And listen the
NFL Draft. Let me give you my point. Then you
could he doesn't have to. You can ramble on about
all these eight hundred irrelevant people. What's cool about the
NFL Draft for the people that stay at home in
the later rounds?

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Because I know not everyone goes.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
But when you see some dude that comes from not
much and he's there with his mom and they're sitting
on their weak ass old couch and their old cabinets
in the background in the kitchen, you could see there's
a there's a level of spontaneity. I don't know where
I'm going, Carolina, Dallas, New York, San Francisco. They could

(08:49):
end up a Viking, they could end up a lion.
They don't know. There's a level of spontaneity of like,
you know, I got a call from coach and there's
like a moment that is a family embrace moment. Fernando Mendoza,
there's this is not like a gender reveal, like it's
a boy. There's no surprise here. He's going number one

(09:11):
to the Raiders. He can rent out a Vegas hotel
and have a big party for the Mendoza clan that weekend.
But on Thursday, you're telling me he can't be in
Pittsburgh for an hour. You know, they were to accommodate
his lovely, beautiful mother and and whoever he needs in
the front, just to be there for the fun optics
of the NFL where thousands are in attendance.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
And millions are watching. You're telling me with knowing he can,
but not for you. It's not about you.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
You basically just said he can't have a party unless
it's a surprise party.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Well, dude, Danny, I think the spontaneity of being around
your family in that moment is like the surprise layer, Like.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
There's an old say shame on, something can't get fooled together?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
No, not that, I'll saying, like, no one ever dies
saying they wish they worked more or whatever you think
anyone dies wishing they hugged Goodell. Get out of my face.
Family is everything. That's who he's choosing to spend it with.
You think he's ever gonna bro, I actually had this thought.
You know, as my parents get older and died saying
they hugged Goodell, they're gonna say I wish I spent

(10:22):
more time with my family, because that's what means everything.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So why are you on this guy's beanbag about this?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Like, get off it or ready you are and not
just rich rich just speaking on behalf of a lot
of pee.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
Who called me you stupidly will occasionally call me double
talking dickie, like, oh you said this, and then you
said the.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Exact I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just
trying to make my point.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
You just said, spending time with family's most important. It is.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Meanwhile, yesterday on our afternoon show and you could listen
to the podcast, this guy was adamant as to why
does Mike Trout stay in Anaheim? And I'm like, cause
he's got two beautiful little kids and he has a
mansion on the beach in Newport and is like, he should.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Be a Yankee.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
How about Stanton, Anaheim? And chill he's from New Jersey
because to the Angels stink.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, so yeah, I think I stand my ground on
that he could still go and see his family.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
He's got plenty of money to do that. He doesn't
have to move. Yeah, but you don't think there's something
you wouldn't want to see him. You want to want
to see au Shucks Mendoza holding up to Jersey doesn't matter. Yes,
sure that would be cool, But I also think it's
cool to see I think it might even tug the
heartstrings a little more to see him being embraced by
the people that matter most.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
And that's his choice. It's not about what I want
to see.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
This is his moment, and I also think this this
kid is so committed to football you can't question his commitment.
And yes, so my point is, if this is his
one last moment he wants to celebrate with them before
he dedicates the rest of his adult life to the NFL,
let him have it. Because every I think, every breathing
moment moving forward, he's going to be dedicated to this team.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I believe in his commitment that way.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So he wants to have this one last moment, thank
the people that brought him there, share that moment with them,
and then commit and dedicate his.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Time to good down the Raiders and everything else.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Rich That's the one thing I will say, because I
as a Raiders fan, I would love to see him
there holding up the Raider jersey and putting the hat on.
But this kind of fits his personality because he's a
selfless dude, always about team. That's why that's what it gets.
But that's what first put him on even your radar.
Remember his I like game, him going off postgame talking

(12:27):
about how much he loves his teammates and tearing up
and all that. And at the Pro Day for Indiana
what did he do. He didn't want the spotlight on him.
He was getting his receivers and personnel ready so that
they could shine and get their moment in the NFL.
So just kind of fits his personality.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
You know, Yeah, you're not wrong, DD, You were just
speaking on behalf of the majority of people probably like
what come on?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, but again, it's just not about you that aout him.
Let it be clear. I'm up backpedaling one bit.

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Speaker 3 (13:08):
Rich and for the great Dan Patrick.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
You don't feel that way when you're tuning in for
someone else and you're like what or another studies there?

Speaker 8 (13:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
The best compliment we were at the Super Bowl and
Frank Caliendo came up to us and said, the first
time you filled in for DP, I was so upset.
And then I listened and then an hour later I'm like,
I'm still listening to these clowns, and so he said
he's a fan.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Now, wait, it's Frank Callen, though I thought it was
John Gruden.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was the white Morgan Freeman this whole.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
Time, You've been telling everyone Chucky is a fan of
the show.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
So hey, if you love hanging with Covino, Rich, we
appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
You know. Dan Patrick a legend. We all watched him
growing up.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
So it's pretty wild sometimes, I said to Cavino during
the break, I go, is it a weird to think
like we're filling it for Dan Patrick? The guy I
watched every day after like junior high and high school
sports Center, And it's it's wild to think we for
that guy. Pretty cool, Pretty cool? All right, some big
stories we're gonna get to this hour.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
What are you doing? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
My phone just started talking. I think you learned it.
You annoyed my phone?

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Continue, Rich, are you going to break down the two
NBA play in games you watched last night?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I did not.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I watched my Mets score one run on the first
batter of the game and then again not score or
run the whole game, which is aggravating. How early in
the season before we get into what I want to
get to, Danny, which is the best story in all
sports that's going under the radar. What is too early
to fire a manager into a season of any sport.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I don't know, Man, your Mets it looking pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I looked this up and there was a cal Ripken
senior oh and six start. When they're like, no, we're done,
I was like, oh and six, I've got six games. Yeah,
this isn't working. But uh, Gonzales on the braves. I
believe it was nine and twenty something. You know in
twenty nineteen, you know they pulled the plug in May.
End of April. It's too soon for your Mets. I'll
tell you why. I mean, it's hard to win when

(15:04):
Soto's hurt already and there's a lot of conflict in
the locker room. Lindor just got his first home run yesterday,
so it's not on him. These players need to get along,
and you can't make people get along no matter how
hard you try in life and in the locker room.
I think in the clubhouse, I think, is it fair
to say a third of the season, give a guy
fifty games? If the Mets are under five hundred after

(15:25):
fifty games with that payroll and playoff hopes, if you're
under five hundred after fifty games, then I think you
go to Carlos belt, and then what happens or someone
at Door and Soto will become best friends after that,
like magically, that's what happens. You fire the manager and
then expect them to all get along all of a sudden.
So I don't think he's really the problem. Well, hey,

(15:47):
we'll talk a little more baseball with coach ball game
next hour and we'll do midweek major. But right now
this is a story, and you're hearing me correct out
of the w NBA.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Say what Now.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
The Dallas Wings, who until two days ago I thought
was a restaurant. I thought that was Riches's favorite appetizer,
lemon pepper place.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, Asy Fund was the number one pick, guys, Ezy
fud number one pick to the Dallas Wings.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Now, first, the way I understand, does a fun podcast
here at iHeart.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, congratulations on the podcast.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Check out the name. It's called fud Around and find
out it's a good one. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
So if you're not thought like a catchy podcast name, huh.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
But after this you explain the story, you're gonna find
out why. I actually want to check this pod out
at least for an episode.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
So I think we need to make it clear though
that we want to congratulate her, not only on the podcast,
but her accomplishments, like that's an amazing moment.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
She's a collegiate champion. But there's a storyline that I
can't quite comprehend. Why no one else is jumping out like, yo,
this is wild, this is cool, this is it's fatterening,
it's trying. It's not coming from a place of judgment
or judge at all.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
But how in the world are people.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Not even bringing up the fact that, well, we've really
hadn't experienced this before in professional sports to my knowledge,
if you're watching men play sports. To my knowledge, I'm
not saying it didn't happen. You're saying, to my knowledge,
we don't know what was going on behind closed doors
but exactly. But the story that no one's talking about
is Azy Fud the number one pick dates the star

(17:29):
player on the Dallas Wings, long term relationship with Page Beckers.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
So Page Beckers and as play together at Yukon. They're
already proven they could win together. So that's not the
criticism or question here.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
But how this has gone under the radar is wild
to me.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
That they had the number one pick and they, you know,
went with azy Fudd as predicted. But now on the
Dallas Wings, you have two women that are in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Together, right, and that could be reason to draft their
number one. It could be reason to maybe have avoided
that because you don't know how that's going to play
out now, You never know, but I do know this,
you know, speaking of your mets Rich, chemistry is hard
to find. Rich and I've been doing a show for
a long long time together. How many shows do you,

(18:21):
guys know that have come and gone because people just
can't get it together, or eventually they were tired of
each other and you can't force it, or one person
gets an ego, or there's a you know, now clearly.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Out of sorts.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Clearly they have it, they've won together and they are
a couple. But what happens if it doesn't last? If
I were management ownership, if I were part of the
Dallas Wings, this is something I would question, like, hey,
where's this relationship going? Is this going to continue to
be a thing? Because if things don't work out, that
could affect the locker role players and people take sides.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's going to be a sticky situation.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's like going into business with family exactly like your
uncle's like, hey, you want to open a store together,
and you're like, I don't know if I want to
even you don't know if you want to do business
with a family member. And this is the ultimate business.
We're talking about a growing league and you have two
number one draft picks. You could look at it positively
and say, you know, they have proven not only their chemistry.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
On the court, but off the court there in a
long term relationship.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Like all right, there's a reason a HR doesn't necessarily
condone people at the workplace getting it on. It just
provides for an awkward situation for a lot of people.
There's a lot of things that could happen.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
What makes Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase special they played together,
they played together in college, and then when they got
to reunite in the NFL, that chemistry know one where
he's going to be on the route, knowing each other's
tendencies was already there. They had this built in chemistry

(19:57):
and they're not sleeping together, right, So add that layer
as it's a different layer of page perplexity.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's really all it is, and it could it could
really put their teammates in an awkward situation and they're
gonna know when they're squabbling, I would imagine, or you
could say they're the most ultimate consummate professionals that they
leave everything at home. But that's kind of tough to
believe too, because, like we said, relationships are not easy.
They don't all last, they don't all work out. If

(20:27):
something goes wrong, what happens? Then you have to ask
yourself that, how would you not be concerned about that?
And the reason is fascinating is because again, if you
watched the NBA growing up or MLB or anything, you
never had to worry about those things before.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
The reality is there is a huge but people want
to ignore there's a huge lesbian LGBTQ community in the
WNBA and there's no doubting that the fan base the league.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So we're seeing you forgot the plus? Is there a
plus in there too?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
You're seeing for the first time we've seen before where
women on different teams have had things going on, but
these are two star players, same team, long term relationship,
and it's unprecedented in sports, and I think I think
it's a case. I we talked about this for a
second the other day and I shifted my mind a
little bit because instead of saying, what if something goes wrong,

(21:21):
you ever go into something a little too positively with
the mindset of.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Hey, we'll worry about that when it happens.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
True, Yeah, because things are good now, that's fair, Like, hey,
it's good now, but there is.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
A what if.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
But I'm saying the Dallas Wings right now, they got
pagebackers and asy Fud.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
This is a team.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
I don't know much about the WNBA, admittedly, but I
can only imagine if you've got two number one draft
picks at one together at Yukon. Now you have a
core of a team that could probably compete in this league. Right,
so you got two star players. You don't think the
mindset really should be, hey, something goes wrong, we'll worry
about it. Then they've been in a long term relationship.

(22:01):
I'm sure we've talked about this the other day on
our afternoon show. HR is involved in every inter work
relationship in every other company. So we were saying, management
in the w NBA and for the Dallas Wings has
every right to be like, what's the nature of your relationship?
And I'm sure they're like, yeah, we're long term, We're
happy we're in love or whatever they had to say.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I think the funnier part of the story, or the
more interesting part of the story has how it's not
even come up and people are pretending like this is
not worthy of even exploring people, you.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Know, talking about the angle.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Dumb thing is everyone so scared of being proceived as
like they're being judgy or saying the wrong thing. Are scared,
We're just it has to be that, And that's the
interesting part of it. It's like, Hey, I'm not coming
from that place, so I could freely just talk about
it and not worry about what you think. And if
you're thinking something about me, I really don't care because
I'm comfortable in my thoughts and what I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
You know what I'm thinking. I think it's super cool.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Like, for instance, I know they're different, but you ever
see one the other day the Curry brothers were on
the court at the same time, right for the first
time we saw Jannis and his brother, or when Ken
Griffy Senior and Junior were in the same lineup, there's
something cool, Like if you're open minded and you say,
there's something pretty cool about these two women that are
in love that are basketball stars.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
They are able to be on the same team.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
So maybe the mindset promoted, Yeah, maybe the mindset should
be like, if something goes wrong, we'll worry about it.
Then in the meantime, we have two stars.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
That are in love that are gonna you know, they
even they didn't want that to be the story, and
that's fair too. It was very clear that draft that
I saw the hot I purposefully want you know what.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
If anything, it got me. But but that's that's them
and that's their wish. That doesn't mean that people can't
speculate even the good of it and the potential bad
of it down the line, because you know what they
could do too, something we to my knowledge, something that
we haven't experienced outside of the WNBA and women's sports.
Like let's say you really want to get in Pagebacker's

(24:02):
head right, like she's running the court, man, how do
we how do we get in her head? Because that's
part of sports, right, You're trying to win the mental
side of things, mental game. Man, you just check your
girlfriend real hard. Then what happens, right you You could
really change the outcome of the game. Knowing these things.
What if what if a teammate's cool with one of
them but not the other. Yeah, there's a there's already

(24:22):
a built in alliance. Like you know, when you think about, uh.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
We can't pretend like these things don't happen any type
of any team.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You'll they'll they'll talk about in a clubhouse or locker
room that there's you know, a little clicks and stuff.
You have a built in two person superstar click. Now
could be a good thing, could not? I think other
teams there could be some some some taunting and little ribbing.
Exactly right, hey, Rich in our game of broadcasts. But
hold on, let me let me go back to what
I was saying. Sure, I watched the w NBA draft

(24:49):
and by the way, the the Vegas odds of that
a month ago would have been like plus eighty thousand.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Me watching the I don't mean though there was I
watched it, and I specifically the WNBA draft.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
You didn't know it was televised. I would were you
certain that it was televised? Well, I mean Clark's entrance,
I mean she was she Kee put it on the map,
you know.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Talking about her. Were you man that they didn't hug
Goodell there or no? I was I was hoping they
I was hoping they hugged the commissioner, Kathy Engelbert. No,
Goodell Rich is hung up on people hugging this guy.
What did you say, Engelbert, humperdink? What did you say?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Like a WNBA commissioner Kathy Engelbert.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Oh, I was like, did Hebert?

Speaker 8 (25:32):
So?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I that's what I thought you said.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
So I'm watching the w NBA draft and strategy. As
a former president Bush would.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Say, stratgery. There was definite strategy.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
And when Azy Fudd got drafted, she gave hugs and
tapped up a million people you know who. She didn't
Paige Becker's, and I thought that was a deliberate, like
you know, business pleasure. We could separate it. I'm in
this moment. I'm a supportive teammate from a distance.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
And that's fine because they're trying to set the narrative.
Narrative is about her being on the team as the
number one pick, and this is the moment. That's what
it should be about. But there is this other layer
that we could fairly explore and without judgment, without you know,
upsetting people. But people are too scared to discuss it.
And I think it's really really interesting. And look there

(26:26):
is the flip side to this. Yes they could win together,
we've seen it. But how many times do you see
this great idea in broadcasting right where hey.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Husband and wife got the morning show and.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's great for like a year, Like, wow, this is
really wild and man, they really bring all their personal
stuff on the air.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
This is fantastic fast forward. You know, Grand open in
grand clothing.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Because you're working under pressure with that person, you never
get a break from that person. You bring that home
with that person. Like all of these things do factor in.
And if you're starting a business or a team or
a franchise or whatever, how is that not a concerning
part of the equation.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
That's all we're saying, not ruining against it.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I wanted to work out and be a cool story,
but working it should be or could be celebrated, but
it could also be very sticky. And going into business,
owning properties, opening a small business, doing anything with friends
or family.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
The Bob and Linda Show always ends up the Bob
Show and Linda gets the house, and that's just how
it is, and that's how it is, and that's how
the cookie crumbles.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
You guys, brought up the potential trash talk. Remember how
KD told Carmelo that Lalla tasted like Cherio's.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yes, yes, he was getting in the head this opponent.
It took him out of his game. Became a story.
It was a story. It was a it was a
big sports story. It's true, you know, a pony. Opposing
teams are going to use this as ammo, and that's
that's part of the game. But it is fair to speculate.
That's really the point of bringing this up here on

(27:57):
our show. How is everybody pretending like this is in
f story? He knows, right, the biggest story and a
bunch of frauds and phony Blooney's the backup story, Like
the secondary story is what's actually happening. The main story
is how the sports media world jumps on every salacious headline.
Give credit, Rich, and the credit goes to us and

(28:17):
Dan Byer on our Monday through Friday regular five to
seven on the East two to four on the West,
Covino and Rich Show, we talked about this, and you know,
we're speculating even more here in for Dan Patrick. I
saw one other dude talk about on social media and
I'm sitting there doing the bull scroll all day like
everybody else.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Scroll and scroll and scold and scroll in.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Jeff Perlman, former writer of SI, is the only other
guy that says, I can't believe nobody's talking about this,
and you better believe.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
I hit him up and I was like, oh really,
oh really, really, Jeff, here you go.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Here's a clip of us talking about it, because we are.
And it goes to show you how scared the media is.
They're walking on shells with the story, and they don't
have to be every every company. It's an interesting story.
I'm looking at our feedback on the intro chat. Matt
hit us up in Minnesota said, I just got moved into.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
The HR department where I work. The paperwork we have
when people are in relationships, dude is crazy. He goes
the w n b A must have similar protocol, Rich,
If you were making whoopee with with what seventies game shows?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, Nobie red game. If we're making whoop with.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
A colleague, you don't think that would be of concern
to the company.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Of course it would be.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So to pretend like this isn't a deal. It doesn't
have to be a bad thing. But the pretend like
it isn't fascinating is also very fake.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
And this as you know, we touched on this earlier
in the week or whenever we started talking about this,
this story, and you know, Danny mentioned this isn't the
first time that teammates on in w NBA team have dated,
but it's never been this high profile, this front and center,
where it's like first first a first round pick last year,
a first round pick this year. Oh and they happen
to be have been teammates at Yukon.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
They happen to have been dating and still are.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
That's what makes this we even a bigger story.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
We talk about when these social issues infiltrate sports. If
the person's good, it's a bigger story, right, Like like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Triangless won in the w NBA. When Jackie Robinson entered
the world of baseball. You know what made him breaking
the color barrier even more exceptional?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
He was like the best player so like it were
like and he they'll always say he was the perfect guy.
He dealt with.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Racism and he was like he somehow rose above all
that and was a remarkable player, one of the best ever.
So Jackie Robinson will forever be a legend in this
story when the two lesbian players are in a really
relationship and their two number one.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Draft picks and people care about that.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
They care Remember the first openly gay football player, It
was like a backup nobody that. It was like, well,
are you the ambassador in that community?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't forget his name even, wasn't it Sam Something,
Sam Smith?

Speaker 9 (31:15):
Are you talking about Michael Sham Michael? Was he the
first ever gay NFL player? Certainly not to be he
came out while he was being drafted, before he got drafted, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
But but I'm saying like, when you are higher level,
the story is going.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
To be there as all. We're saying fascinating, that's all.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
And uh, shame on everybody else for not even bringing
it up, because it's okay to bring it up and speculate.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
But again, that's not to take away from the accomplishments
congratulation A pretty cool angle.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I listen, every sport looks for their angles, right, and
I think the WNBA who had momentum with Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh yeah, the WNBA could lean into like Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
And Angel Reese was the momentum that gave that league
like a spark, right like, like it was like a
dead campfire that did see a little spark the sparks
out of this.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Now we've been talking about it this past week. Will
Fudd talk about it on her iHeart podcast. I mean
she should, yeah, right right?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I mean, well, just why don't you fud around and
find out.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Why do you send you this clip?

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Maybe she'll play this on her iHeart podcast all the
love were showing her. But I'll say this, it's an
interesting story. The w NBA should lean into it because
any any type of any type of fun storyline in
the sports world. We could pretend people don't love the dramatics.
If people didn't love dramatics stuff, People want to give
a crap so much about this Diana Verssini Mike Rabel

(32:47):
story because people people live for drama. And if they
and if you say, if you say it's all about
the sports, then why are you so worried about vacation
photos of poor Diana Rossini?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah? Who who hired the private investor?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Gator?

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I want to know that. Who's at the bottom of this.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
You have sixty seconds to tell your story, covin real quick.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Sorry, we are rooting for asy Fud and Becker's Rich
and I had a bright idea of doing like a
spin off with our girlfriends at the time.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
This is years ago, like why don't we do a show?
We called it Ball and Chain, like the demo show like.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
This like years and years ago before we met our
current girlfriend and wife.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Right, dude, it got so awkward first day in because
we're not used to working with our significant others in
that way, kind into.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
A fight like on the first show. It could be
a fun spinoff, right, like oh, the Bonus podcast show
one and done, grand opening, grand closing, because it's not easy,
so we wish them luck and uh, hey, any thoughts,
We'll take your feedback next, get everyone holding on the phone,
and then we'll get to Big Mike who runs this

(33:52):
take who runs this place?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Next?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
And a bunch more coach ballgame joins us in about
forty minutes.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
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It's an honor, it's a pleasure. Thank you guys.

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(35:04):
Always a great time. And it's also tax day.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, you always reluctant to open up to see what
the return is going to be or how much you owe.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Oh, the most anxious email of a year. Right. Well, Hey,
a lot going on.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
We talked a little WNBA, some unprecedented stuff there, talked
some baseball, the playing games in the NBA. We talked
to Mendoza a lot if you missed any of it,
all on the podcast later. But Kavino, there's a guy
that the minute I started following him, Yeah, I'm hooked
because I'm a big baseball guy and a big passion

(35:38):
I have.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh and by the way, when Rich brings things up,
I tend to do the opposite. But he was right
about this guy. Kavino rejects everything I say. Yeah, but
he's on board. You know, I'm way involved with coaching
all my kids.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
And there's a guy that I think is like the master,
the template of how you should be handling the kiddos,
and that is James Low Coach ball game.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
We got you got him on the line. Coach ball game.
What's up, my man?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Man, we're live this and I know you're a big
DP guy, So welcome to the Dan Patrick Show.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Can you know? And Rich filling in? What's up?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Man?

Speaker 8 (36:10):
Well? Full transparency, you know twenty eighteen gem nance soundlike
contest winner right here, James in California. And to be
on the back end of the Masters and to be
on your show, what an honor.

Speaker 11 (36:27):
I'm excited. It's Christmas morning. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah, let me tell you coach ball game. I think
it's pretty cool that you get to not only work
with the kiddos. We're going to talk a bunch about that.
And if you have any questions for coach ball game,
how to handle a crazy parent or a reluctant kid
or something, we'll we'll do it all with coach ball
follow great stories.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I have a rule coach ball game, and that rule
is a vatos don't cry. But I know you say otherwise.
I know you say, hey, man, it's okay. You know,
let it out means your care and things like that.
Vatos don't cry. And I tell you, man, I say,
do you tell the story about Jim Abbott to these
little kiddos? And I was there like, oh, it's beautiful.
So definitely a great follow and some great lessons. And

(37:10):
my first question is outside looking in.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
I have a teenage daughter, right, but I see rich
I go to my nephew's games all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I see friends. I saw KFC from barstool talking about
this this morning. Are we putting too much pressure on
not only the kids but the families when it comes
to all the different travel sports and all the different
leagues that they're in all the time, Like, are we
concerned about family spending family time? And what about kids
burning out? It seems like there's a lot of pressure

(37:37):
involved in this nowadays.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
How do you view this?

Speaker 8 (37:40):
Yeah, well, I agree with you, and it's the reason
I started a sandlot tour where there needed to be
an injection of joy and common sense into youth baseball,
which is what I coach. But it's not just baseball.
It's all sports, and I think it transcends sports. It
goes into into the homes as well. But yeah, I

(38:03):
think a lot of its parents living through their kids.
You know, my playing career didn't pan out like I
wanted it to. I played four years of college, but
I really wanted to play pro ball didn't happen. So
as I started coaching in my twenties, I was coming
from that place of I'm not really happy with how

(38:24):
my career panned out. So there was some passive aggressive tone.

Speaker 11 (38:29):
There was some.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
Frustration, and that caused a lot of pressure that made
kids want to quit the game. Thankfully, I had mentors
that put their arm around me and they said, hey, ballgame,
You've got the energy of fifty camels. But that kid
hates baseball now because of your insecurity.

Speaker 11 (38:48):
And those light bulbs kept coming.

Speaker 8 (38:50):
And I think that's the reason why kids don't want
to play sports, especially when they get to that twelve thirteen,
fourteen where it's all about travel ball and elite is
because of adult anxiety.

Speaker 11 (39:04):
So I'm just here. Who would have thought it'd be novel.

Speaker 8 (39:07):
Let's just inject some common sense, some calm, some big
picture thinking, uh, in in these parents' brains and let
the kids play. If you go to the Dominican Republic,
if you go to Cuba, if you go to Puerto Rico,
there's sandlots and there's kids playing barefoot, uh, and there's
no parents, there's no coaches, and they're doing pretty good

(39:31):
as far as pumping out Major League Baseball players.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
So I'm glad that so good.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
You said Dominican Republic and some of these, you know,
great baseball countries around the world. When you watch the
World Baseball Classic and you see what the Savannah Bananas
are doing, and you see what coach ball Game is
teaching kids at his camps and tour, do we need
to inject more fun into baseball? I know you work
closely with Jeter and Bobby with Junior and you're an
ambassador to the game.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
He brings a bungo to the field. I saw a
coach ball game. There's a Fox.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
There's a Fox promo for MLB on Fox and it
said fun is back in baseball?

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Is that like an INITIATI ever.

Speaker 11 (40:11):
What it has to be? And again, how is that novel?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Right?

Speaker 8 (40:16):
But when you when you watch the WBC, what'd you
notice about all the fans going there?

Speaker 11 (40:24):
And I got invited in.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
I was the only US fan at the Dominican Republic
United States game and I was there in Miami. I
was the only American fan a in a July fourth
man romper, but with a drum. I brought my jumbay
drum and these there was drum circles all over the

(40:46):
place four hours before the game, and these Dominican fans,
they invited me in. They said, hey, come on in,
let's play. There's just a joy, there's a celebration. They
celebrate everything about the game. And you notice that with
the players when there's home runs hit, there's bat flips.
There's just this little kid joy that comes out from

(41:08):
those Latin countries. So I try to bring that to
the sandlot that I put a drum in the on
deck circle. I've got this conga drum with about seventy signatures,
fifteen Hall of famers, every Major leaguer that I meet,
I have them sign it, and I say, this brings
the party.

Speaker 11 (41:25):
To the youth space.

Speaker 8 (41:27):
When parents roll up, they're expecting to stare at the
scoreboard and be anxious for their kids all game long. Meanwhile,
when there's a drum in the on deck circle and
coaches are calling kids by nicknames and just had this
body language of joy, the parents are like, well, wait
a second, So this does exist, this other thing, this

(41:48):
fun happy baseball, it actually exists.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
I'm so glad you said nicknames were here. Were coach
ballgame Cavino rich In for Dan Patrick. I took coach
ballgames advice and after work today. Later this afternoon, we
have practice for my team, and I told the kids
last practice, next time we hang, I want everyone to
think of a couple nicknames, because we are now a
team that's gonna.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Be doing nicknames.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
Can you talk about the importance of what that does
for a kid's confidence?

Speaker 8 (42:16):
Well, I mean I think it'll it'll work in your
board meeting room. Today, adults like like like take ten minutes,
go into the lunch or the coffee room and say, hey,
let's build some camaraderie here.

Speaker 11 (42:29):
We're a family.

Speaker 8 (42:30):
We're with each other every day, instead of force feeding
baseball knowledge down their throats right away. Coach Rich, I'm
not sure what your nickname.

Speaker 11 (42:39):
Is yet, but I got it.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
It's El flama blanca. I come. He got the.

Speaker 11 (42:47):
Rolls off the time.

Speaker 8 (42:50):
But say, hey, I can't coach you unless I get
to know you. So let's go crisscross applesauce. I'll do
it with you. I'll start. My name's James. Nobody calls
me James. My nicknames coach ballgame because my favorite thing
to do is I love to coach kids. I love
eating spaghetti and meatballs. I love playing golf, and I

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love playing the drums.

Speaker 11 (43:12):
So if my.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Nickname wouldn't coach ball game, it might be coach meatball.
And then we go around the circle and immediately these
kids are like, oh, so this coach he actually cares
about me. He's curious, she's curious. They want to know
who I am. Then you got him, then you can
challenge him. A lot of people think oh, he's just

(43:33):
the fun guy. So coach Ballgame must give out participation
trophies since he slings out nicknames. No, no, no, I
only award good choices. I don't even award home runs.
I give a high five or an ad a boy
or an at a girl. But I'm really looking through
a lens of character development. So there can be both.
It's a both, and you can sling nicknames and joy

(43:55):
and you can also challenge and especially when you build
trust with him, that's straight up out of the book
of Dusty Baker. Build trust. They'll do what you ask,
especially if it's outside their comfort zone.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I had a boy, Hey, coach ball game. We're such
on the same pitch today.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
And that's why a great follow U because I know
so many people that listen to our show and Dan Patrick,
they spend their weekends and their weekdays not only coaching
their kids but going to games. I have questions about parents,
but I do feel like I have the reputation of like, oh,
there's a rich, fun time coach. But I'm, like you,
a very competitive guy and I'm always juggling the When

(44:33):
do I turn on the competitiveness As a dad and
a coach versus, Hey, let's play music, let's have fun,
let's be silly. I had Let's just say I don't
don't I want to throw people into the bus. But
let's just say I happen to have a parent come
up to me because I'm going to be coaching All
Stars this summer and they say, hey, man, we better

(44:54):
have like like a winning squad or we're not sure
it's worth it, Like, how do you balance winning versus
having fungus? To me, summer all Stars win, they're six,
They're playing Shetland ball, pony ball. I'm thinking pool parties,
running through the sprinkler, horsing around. Just to me, that's
the memories the kids will have going out to lunch

(45:15):
in between a doubleheader, Like, am I off base?

Speaker 8 (45:18):
There?

Speaker 11 (45:19):
No, you are absolutely not. But here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (45:24):
There are people that look through the win at all
costs lens And how do we approach that?

Speaker 11 (45:29):
Well, I think you.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Have to prioritize the joy, and then right beside it
is character development. And then what is the by product
if you're challenging kids and giving out baseball cards because
kids are showing up early, practicing at home, working on
those skills that you've been teaching them at practice, trying
to be brave, cheering for their teammates, hustling, getting down

(45:50):
and ready, all those awesome choices at practices and games.
The byproduct is skill development and wins. But it's got
to be a byproduct that can't be the only thing
you're looking at. So for that type of parent, you
got to tread with empathy. There's an insecure eight year
old within them that isn't really happy with how their

(46:12):
life is going. So they're living through their kids, and
you know their ego is matching up with the trophies
that their kids win.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Hey, coach, how do you do with a pacing dad
or dad that's on the fence like just a bit much?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
How do you deal with that guy? I saw? I
saw a type of coach Baul game literally jumping on the.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Fence recently because the parents are wild, dude, And that's
why there's signs at the Little League here in La too. Hey, parents,
the kids are watching like parents need to remember that sometimes.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
Exactly well, I mean it should have started before the
first practice where you have a barbecue and you get
to know all these parents and you build trust with
all these parents. I always say, bring a kickball and
let the kids entertain themselves. That way, you can get
to know all these parents, build trust, and then you
can lay out your expectations for the year. We're going

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to inject maturity. These kids are going to play better
when they're feeling freedom and joy, not when we are
hanging on the fence. But that type of parent might
even after you say that or lay out those expectations,
they're still going to do it throughout the season. Maybe
you can take them for a cup of coffee, find
out why they are they why why are they the

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way they are? And then you can drop a truth
bomb on them, but do it in a way they're
going to hear it.

Speaker 11 (47:30):
I mean, it all stems from insecurity, so they're very insecure.

Speaker 8 (47:35):
But I've had people drop truth bombs on me that
I heard because I had built trust with them, or
that they had built trust with me. You can also
try and bring them in and say, hey, I need
you to run a whiffleball batting practice station on Wednesdays.
I need that energy, but I need you to channel
it to throwing wiffleballs to kids. And then they notice,

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you know what, this is a hard job, and these
kids are They're playing better when there's a freedom to fail.
I'm gonna chill out a little bit, but more than anything,
you gotta lead by example. They're gonna watch what you
do when you when your kid strikes out in a
huge moment, Coach Rich, and you have this body language
of I've failed in these moments too. Baseball is hard.

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Let's see how you respond. They're gonna it's gonna put
a rock in their shoe. They're gonna be like, hmmm,
why is that? Why is Coach Rich not throwing a fit?
He should be, No, he shouldn't. So there you go.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
You know, coach ball game.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Cavino is a big Jeter guy, so we're gonna I'm
sure he has questions about your new friendship with Derek,
which must.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Be wild for you.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
But you know what I did not not a bad
piece of advice, because I know a lot of little
leagues and pony balls are starting around the country, you know,
or they're just beginning, right.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I played for my parents on the team.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
That video of Jeter talking to his kids in the car,
which I'm sure you saw, where he's telling us kids
have fun. Hey, but I'm still there, Jeter, a win,
but have fun. We're going to be proud of you
no matter what. And I was like, kids, I told
the pants, I'm like, I want you to watch this
video of Derek Jeter. I hate the Yankees. I'm a
Mets fan, but you got to appreciate the captain's message here.

Speaker 8 (49:13):
Yeah, and what I love getting to meet him, and yeah,
it is pinched me moments. But it's hard to find
a bona fide Major leaguer that can communicate baseball. It's
really hard to find a Hall of Famer that can
communicate with kids. He is a savant of people and
a savant of kids, and his message is.

Speaker 11 (49:37):
All about failure and how to respond to failure.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
He also talks about joy and how that's when you
have this freedom to fail. That's when you make aggressive mistakes,
which leads to your highest potential. Is when you're free
to dive and mess up and swing and miss, that's
when we learn the most. But he's all about responding
to failure. And I know he had some a bit
of a climb in the minor leagues as far as

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making defensive plays, hitting the ball, and there was a
lot of failure early on, and that's all he talks
about is that's the best gift we'll ever give these
kids is a freedom to fail. Let them fail, why,
because that's how they're going to learn like a rory, Right,
I mean, how does he win the Masters last year
and this year because he was so good at failing.

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He failed so much that he had built this resilience.
So yeah, Derek Cheeter Man, I love that guy.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah, you know what, And he's a guy that comes
from great parents, and I think that's such a big
part of it, right, you know, doctor Jeter and his
mom were always there. How do you handle it when
you know the parents are just the worst coach ball game?
Is it a coach's job to step in sometimes to
help that kid?

Speaker 8 (50:54):
Well, I think a great way to approach it is
to well, first, you got a love on the kid. Right,
If that's the public display on a baseball field or
a basketball court, then I can't even imagine what the
car rides are like and what home is like.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So sometimes that could be tough on the kid, right
if other parents don't want to deal with the parents.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
Right, absolutely, So.

Speaker 8 (51:21):
As far as loving on the kids, you know, just
make sure that this is a safe space for them.
But you can't fight fire with fire. It just never works.
A one on one conversation is the best way to go.
I think a message gets across much clearer when it's quiet.

Speaker 11 (51:38):
So whenever you can just.

Speaker 8 (51:41):
Go out for a milk or a coffee with that
parent and just let them know, Hey, your energy and
your presence is awesome. But here's what I notice, and
the only reason I noticed it is because I used
to do it. You've got to throw yourself under the
bus too, otherwise they're not going to hear it.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
It's a good technique.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
It's a good take to you in marriage too. By
the way, coach Paul Bang, I mean, by.

Speaker 8 (52:04):
The way, some of my favorite messages from dads on
the road is Hey, your message has saved.

Speaker 11 (52:11):
My relationship with my kid.

Speaker 8 (52:12):
I think it's also saved my marriage too, so it
definitely seeps in. But yeah, having those one on one
conversations is super important. And then saying hey, I used
to do this. I was living through my kid anxious,
micromanaging everything. They hated baseball, and they didn't they didn't

(52:34):
really like hanging out with me either. That I'm noticing
that with your kid. When you're here, they play a
lot worse. And the only reason I noticed that is
because I used to do it myself.

Speaker 11 (52:48):
That's the secret.

Speaker 8 (52:49):
There. I'll paint a picture with a story, because storytelling
is is my fave. I'm in Virginia last year and
the league president he hosted my sandlot there. He said
I need to say something. And this was at the
coaches and parents conversation after the sandlot. He said, my
seventeen year old son, who was out here today ten
years ago. We're in the backyard, we're working on this skill.

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We're throwing a ball. We're trying to figure out this thing.
And he couldn't figure it out. Weeks and weeks went by,
and on a Saturday afternoon, for some reason, he did it.

Speaker 11 (53:20):
He finally did it. He didn't. I said, you didn't
give up, dude, You finally got it. Yes at a boy.

Speaker 8 (53:26):
The kid looked at Dad pretty shocked, threw his glove
on the ground, sprinted at Dad, tackled Dad, and he says,
oh Dad, I'm just so thankful you're finally not disappointed
in me.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Oh man, Yeah, I mean it's a big responsibility and
you're the best. Dat I have another question for coach
ballgame on the Cavino and Rich show. You know, you
could see a little ballplayer when you know, when they're
in a bunch of group of kids, they all have
that look about him. They're all wearing to seem like
outfits now, those shorts and the shirts, these little chains,

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the necklaces, the slides, sunglasses and baseball sunglasses. Like they
have a look now And I love that. But along
with that comes with along with the outfits, comes with
the hype, fire bats and all the things that go
along with.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
It, lighting gloves when they're seven.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
So my question is like, hey, you don't want your
kids to go without. So is this building confidence or
is it a waste of money? Like you, how do
you view those things? Because I do like the culture side.
It's part of the culture and you know it's fun
for the kids. But what are your views on that?

Speaker 11 (54:30):
Yeah, And I see it all.

Speaker 8 (54:31):
I see the double barrel, four hundred dollars bats, I
see the oven myths, and I see the aura and
the swag because I work with I do some camps
with the Bananas and coach Rack and kJ and they
even have a station for trick plays and Aura and
Iblack and I embrace all that if you have the
means for that. But at my sandlots, we share one bat,

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just like we did as kids.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Yeah, one big barrel east and that was it.

Speaker 8 (54:59):
That's it, and it's got dents all over it, gloves
and usually a tennis ball. But I always tell the
Roberto Clemente story, and I say, hey.

Speaker 11 (55:10):
This kid grew up in Puerto Rico. Uh.

Speaker 8 (55:13):
They used a lemon for a ball, and they'd wrapped
yarn around it so lemon juice wouldn't get in their
eyes when they hit it. They used a stick a
branch from a guava tree for a bat, and they
used trash for bases, and they played all day on
a farm with animals everywhere. That guy became the best
right fielder of all time. So I think if you're

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a little bit upset about sharing one bat in this
sandlot game, well then you need to step into Clemente's shoes.
There's a lot of stories like that, David Ortiz, Pedro Martinez.
So yeah, at some perspective is definitely necessary. But if
you have the means and you like giving things to

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your kids, then I'm all right with it.

Speaker 11 (55:58):
But I think they also that also needs to come.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
With some perspective as far as hey, you're very fortunate.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Yeah, coach ballgame.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
I love the clip of Mo Rivero where he shows
that he used to play with the piece of cardboard.
Yeah right, you've seen that. I mean that is coach
ball game. A couple of quickies. I know not all
questions are are quick answers, but I don't want to
keep you all day. I feel like I could talk
to you for hours. Gary Vaynerchuk, one of our Pal's
motivational speaker Guy Gary Vee, says, when you got a
kid that cries, don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
That means he cares. How do you handle the emotional kid?

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Because I'll be honest, my kid, my son, when he
doesn't hit off the blue flame and he needs to
use the t or if he misses a ground ball,
he gets it a little in his emotions, and I'm like, buddy,
come on, let's let's control that.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
How do you How do you handle that?

Speaker 11 (56:47):
Love?

Speaker 8 (56:47):
That question, it's the most common question I get. And
I start with this, I'd much rather have that kid
than the kid that is oblivious. That means that kid cares,
But that kid is eight, So that throwing of the
helmet or that stewing in the dugout, that's just a
whole lot of give a.

Speaker 11 (57:05):
Care that kid cares.

Speaker 8 (57:07):
They're just not mature enough to put respect the game
or respect you as a parent in that moment.

Speaker 11 (57:14):
They just care a lot. I've got two daughters, and
one of them really gets upset and.

Speaker 8 (57:18):
Embarrassed when they fail, and a lot of that is
due to they don't want to let their team down.
I remember being eight years old. I remember making a
bad throw. I remember crying and my dad coming into
the dugout and saying, okay, son, we care. We want
to compete, and we want to make sure that our
teammates like us.

Speaker 11 (57:39):
What do you do well?

Speaker 8 (57:40):
I don't know that it's the parent's job in those moments.
I'm a big fan of the professional pass off. Like, hey,
coach Rich, Coach Steve, my kids respect the heck out
of you. When they're throwing a fit or they can't
hustle out a groundball at first base, will you have
a chat with them? I think it'll be that is a.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
That is a great tactic. We do that on my team.
Like I coach with the guy Oliver, and Oliver handles it. Hey, like,
I guess it's your kid. They don't, you know.

Speaker 8 (58:10):
We've been begging him to brust their teeth and make
their bed their whole life. So you know, you got
to save those bullets a little bit. And I think
professional pass off is great. Teach him to breathe in
the moment, that's a big one. Some kids just need
you to get mad with them. You know what, I'm
mad with you, bud uh. Some kids need humor, but
ultimately the life lesson of how to respond and give

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them tools. The game is never life or death. But
in ten years they're about to make a terrible decision
because it's been failure after failure after failure. But then
they text their coach that when they were eight years
old and they say, Coach rich Man, I just I
was thinking about you and you taught me how to
overcome adversity. Appreciate that, man, Like that's coaching. That's awesome,

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That's that's your job.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Well, you know what, man, we could talk to you
all day for sure, and you know we're gonna have
to do this again and we're gonna hold you to it,
so I want people to follow Coach ballgame. James though,
thank you so much for being on the show. Coach
got We love what you're doing. Man, you've got a
little leager a pony ball.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
People can hit you up right and see if the
if their league wants to bring you to their town.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
You do that, correct, that is.

Speaker 11 (59:19):
Your Absolutely, I'll hit like sixty cities a year. That's
the max. Missus Ballgame says, Okay, no more than sixty.

Speaker 8 (59:25):
We need you around the house a little bit, but yes,
reach out and uh, I'm easy to find. But I'll
be all over the United States and We're even going
to the UK next year.

Speaker 11 (59:38):
Look out for that.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
So Rich and I watched you at the All Star
Game with all those kids. It was fantastic to see man.
So yeah, guys, make it happen if you can. Pretty
Coach ball Game. Thank you Coach on The Cavino en
Rich Show in for Dan Patrick.