06/12/2021 - FOX Sports Saturday with Dan Beyer and Bucky Brooks - Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio a special Saturday edition.
It's not a holiday, Bucky when you and I get together. Honestly,
I only thought we got together on Thanksgiving and Christmas.
But I am very thankful to be with you on
this beautiful summer Saturday afternoon. What what what up? Buyer?
How you doing? I'm good, I'm good. I guess it's

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not even technically summary yet if you go by the calendar.
But uh, but man, I'll tell you what if there
was ever if there was ever a time that I
wanted to team up with Bucky Brooks. Uh, this is
the absolute ideal weekend because we've got Aaron Rodgers in
the news, We've got Russell Wilson in the news. One

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Julio Jones just not re member of the Tennessee Titans,
so we can dive into that and the place that
actually I want to start out college freaking football. It
is amazing how long it took the powers that be
in the world of college football to expand what would
be a two team playoff where we would just have

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the one game, and it took years for them to
even get one versus two together to now then go
to four schools in the playoff and then decide, you
know what, and just a matter of a snap of
the fingers that we are expanding the twelve schools. But
that's where we are as the college football playoff really,
to me is the biggest story of the week, going

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to recommend that they expand the college football bracket from
four schools all the way up to twelve. So when
you hear that college football is expanding, Bucky Brooks, what
ring in your years when that news broke earlier this week?
I mean, they needed the money for one and it
was about time. It was about time today expanded the

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playoffs because when you look at the lower levels, all
those teams have all those levels have sixteen teams playing
in a playoffs. So we knew it could be done, right,
So what was a hold up? Um? The pandemic gave
us opportunity because of the depreciated revenues and those things
that we have to make up for it the bowl games.

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Headwayne players were opting out of bowl games like never before,
and so really to preserve the game, they had to
expand the playoffs to get more teams in the mixing
kind of sell them on the pipe dream because Dan,
as you know it, nothing's gonna change. It's gonna be
the same four teams in the final four, but it
just takes them a little longer to get there. It's
the biggest misconception that I've that I've heard throughout the

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last couple of days is that people were sick of
Alabama and they're sick of Clumpson. They were sick of
Ohio State. Guess what you're gonna get them every single
year now because of this that is that is it's
not like they're going to go away like those schools.
Now we'll even have more of a chance. I mean,
look at how many times Alabama, who only missed the

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playoffs what a couple of years ago, and to end
up getting hurt so they didn't get into the to
the four team bracket. Look at it. How how many
times even that season we were looking and saying like, well, honestly,
if you look at Alabama, do you think that they
would beat the fifth ring team or the fourth ring
team if they actually went a dead And everybody's saying, yeah,
I think they could. There Alabama, let's get the let's

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get the four best teams in there. Then it's like
why even why even play the game? So like we
were already bending backwards to put Alabama into the field
of four when they didn't even belong in the in
the field of four, I have. I didn't like the
news at first. I I didn't actually still don't like
the news. Twelve to me, is way too many schools
to put in. There aren't twelve teams that are worthy

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of winning a national championship in college football. There there
aren't there There There just aren't. I mean, I get
what you're saying that there there aren't twelve legitimate national
title teams. Correct the intrigue though, you just want to
see more teams in the mix, just to intrigue. But
that's what's going to take away from college football, in

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my mind, is the regular season, like the the Alabama L.
S U games, which have become one of the the
the marke your calendar. We're not gonna do anything that
night because Alabama takes on L s U. That game
was always hey, winner likely gets the inside track to

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play in the SEC Championship game. Loser then would need
a heck of a lot of help to try to
get into the college football playoff. That's what was That's
what was at stake for those games. And I don't
think now when you have Alabama against l s U
it carries as much weight Ohio State. And when when
Michigan was was rolling at times, we can even go back,

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you know, into the nineties, when Michigan would beat Ohio
State all the time. There was a lot to play
for in those games. Now you play that game and
you say, well, if you lose, guess what, you're probably
still gonna get one of the at large bids. You
lose a lot of that, and that's what that's what
That's what bothers me about this. I would rather have
a six school or an eight field. Like eight teams.

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To me, is is probably as big as you can get.
To try to allow the group of fives to get
a spot in there, I just don't even really, But
do we really want to see a group of five
teams played there? Like? Do we really want to see
like you see f take on Alabama? Like do we
really believe that they're gonna be able to knock them off?
I will say this, I know I don't think they will,

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but I think more people would rather see you Seef
try to knock off Alabama than say Iowa State try
to knock off Alabama, and I'm using Iowa State is
maybe an at large school or in Indiana last year
from the Big Ten. Yeah, a great story within the
Big Ten and what Indiana did. But I think more
people are are interested in seeing the David versus Goliath

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instead of a Goliath against another Power five somewhat good school.
That's what I think people would rather to see. But
I think the way that it's set up there with
the twelve teams, you actually have an opportunity to you
may not see the David and Goliath, but you may
have a chance to see Iowa State take on UCF.
So then maybe u c F earns the right to

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have an opportunity to take on one of the big
schools where they didn't have that chance previously. So I
kind of like it from their standpoint. But you know,
what's what's tricky and what is surprising about the proposal
has been that they don't right now have any of
the conference champions guaranteed and locked in. I thought, if
you're going to expand it, you probably should have the

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six conference champions, uh, I mean the five Power five
conference champions A six team from a group of five
school guaranteed and then populated with at large. But right now,
as it stands, it's just gonna be the highest rated teams.
You would be the sixth of the six highest rated
conference champions, Yes, six highest conference champions, and then the

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next six highest rated teams. So we'll see. I mean,
I think it will work out the way that we
want workout. I just don't want to see like eight
SEC teams in the mix. But I think, you laugh, Okay,
they're gonna figure out a way to do so, even
with it with only six at large, they're gonna figure
out a way to get eight as he schools. And

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I joke, but and and and and if you're listening
and you're driving in your car, you're saying, wait a second, no,
like the six highest rated conference champions? When no, they
all get in. If the rankings would have been played
out the way that they did was a crazy year.
The point is that the Pack twelve wouldn't have made
it into that top six conference and a team yeah,

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and and and you're you're right, And their schedule was
was crazy and how and how late their season started.
I mean they started a week after the Big Ten
and had even more postponements. But the point is is
that Cincinnati would have got in as the champion of
the American and then Coastal Carolina, who was higher than
any other Pack twelve school, would have got in as

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a conference champion of the Sun Belt. So that's so.
So that would be one of the things where you
would say, to your point, Bucky, of making it like,
let's make sure that the conferences, the Power five conferences
have it a way to get there. You're a correct
that it it. We we believe that the SEC is
going to be fine, and we believe that the Big
ten is going to be fine, and we believe that

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the Big twelve and a SEC are going to be fine.
But there is the scenario what's been playing out with
the Pack twelve that maybe wouldn't have allowed that automatic
bid to come from that league, even if they want it,
And that is that is one of the things in
this proposal that that could leave that sort of school out.
But I mean, if there if if you can't be

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mad if you're leaving out a conference champion that's ranked
and the and and I think we agree on that.
And my only point is is now is to your
point of seeing an Iowa state school taking on let's
just use Indiana for for that or or Coastal Carolina.
Is that the game of the year that we want
to watch, or do we want to watch Alabama l

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s U. And that's that's what that's what we're trading
for it. And I've heard a lot of positivity everybody.
I love this, I love this, but you also have
to realize what you are giving up if you go
to this format. And maybe I'm just get off my
lawn guy and something that I have been used to
for for so long, But we're we're losing l s
U Alabama being a must watch, must win game for

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one of those schools we're missing. We're losing that is
a must watch game for l s U because if
they lose, they have a greater chance of not going
in as opposed to Alabama just because of the brand name.
I still think is there's a level of intrigue because
we can look at a couple of different ways. One
all of those conferences typically have a conference championship game,

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which certainly helps. So there's there's that part of it,
almost like a double jeopardy situation. When it comes to
some of those big games L s U and Alabama,
depending on how it plays out and who wins and
who's able to go and who faces Georgia or Florida
or whatever in the championship game. And then you still
have the at large situation where a f L S

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you loses to Alabama, they still have an opportunity to
climb of the charts and be one of those at
large teams. So I think we still get that, but
we also get the opportunity to see the other conference champions.
So I sat here and just kind of pooh pooed
on the little teams that David's um. But you just
thought I didn't talked about. Coast to Carolina have an opportunity.

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Cincinnati have an opportunity if they play well and if
they can get high enough. And so I think it
takes some of those schools to play some bigger schools
to get some wins on their resume while also winning
their championship to be able to get into the tournament.
You know, you look at a Cincinnati school that was
one of the better schools in in college football and
they end up in the in the rankings last season,

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finishing eighth in in the rankings, and it allows it's
kind of a cop out, I think, to me for
the committee, because I never thought that the committee had
enough guts to actually put a Cincinnati that's not to know,
above an eight and three Florida team. And the argument
is always going to be strength of schedule, but to me,

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it's just more of of It gives the committee a
cop out to just just put everybody in and let
it work out instead of actually making the decisions and
figuring out who is best and who deserves to be there.
For as great as Florida may have been, if you
lose three times in a season, I'm sorry, you shouldn't
win a national championship. In college football. If you lose

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three times in eleven games, that tells me you are
not a national championship contender. And it gives the committee
to me, a sort of cop out, where if you
had it six or you had it eight, you really
would have to make those decisions. A lot of the
decisions lately were somewhat easy because you just take the
conference winners and maybe if Notre Dame's unbeaten or as
a one lost team, the committee doesn't have to worry about,

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and and Notre Dame, by the way, got in last
year playing the a CEC schedule beat Clemson. You know,
it was unbeaten going into that into that conference title game.
I get all that, but I think that at times
they had an easier job and sometimes would just take
the path of of least resistance instead of actually making
the real tough decision. I mean, I get that, but
I don't necessarily see it as such. I understand what

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you want, like you want to throw the little team
in there, and a like Cincinnati deserves to be and
they we're gonna let them play with the big boys
and those things. But I think it's probably better to
make them like now, I think they actually have a
better chance of getting into the mix than they had before,
because before I think there was always some trepidation, like a, man,
it's team really really good enough? Should we really put

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them in? When now you can throw them in and
if they happen to pull off an upset maybe in
the first thing, I shouldn't say upset, because it's not
always guarantee that one of those teams will be the underdog.
But if they happen to go into the tournament, maybe
as a eighth seed, and when when now you're like, okay,
they're they're in the mix. They have an opportunity. Now
they can play one of the bigger boys and kind

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of see where they stack up. Let's ay, it's a
great conversation to have. I I don't love the move,
but I love talking about college football and the ramifications.
I would ask the gardner next door, who is a
leaf blowing my neighbor's backyard if he wanted to chime in.
I don't know if you could hear that or not, Bucky,
I hope you couldn't. I hope you couldn't, but I would.
I would think that he probably agreed with me as well,

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that maybe the college football playoff just got too big,
too fast when it went to twelve schools. That's the
other thing. Why not, you know, if if you had
time to do it. I know we're short on time here,
but it took you so long to get from two
to four, why not maybe just then see just how
it would play out with six? Are you still dealing
with problems? Are you're dealing with new problems? Because there's
no way you're ever gonna go back. You're never gonna say,

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you know what, twelve didn't work, Let's go to six,
or let's go to eight. That is not happening. That
is never happening. So it's just amazing to me on
how quickly it expanded. And yeah, who knows, we could
have the SEC Invitational coming up in future seasons if
certain things play out. But I'm just I'm not a
huge fan of the twelve team bracket. He's Bucky Brooks,
former NFL scout, former NFL VET. Get him on Twitter

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at Bucky Brooks. I guess I wouldn't say former NFL VET.
You would just be an NFL VET, that's all it
would be. I'm Dan Buyer. Find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer. On Fox, Mark Murphy, the Packers president, is
at it again. He can't keep Aaron Rodgers out of
his mouth. We'll tell you what he said next year.
On Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, He's Bucky Brooks.
I'm Dan Buyer. Glad to have you with us college

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football on our mind. So is the National Football League, Bucky,
NFL is your life. I know it is, but there's
something about this upcoming season. I even said this yesterday
when I was filling in for for Doug Gottlieb on
the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, that
I am more excited for the upcoming season in the
NFL than other years that I can remember. I don't know.

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I don't know if it's because we're coming out of
a bit and there's gonna be uh we expectful capacity
and all of the stadiums that it's gonna be, you know,
maybe more normal of a of a preseason and only
three preseason games. And I don't know exactly what it is,
but that's the feeling that I've got, like I'm more
excited about this upcoming season than any of the other

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seasons in recent memory. Yeah, I mean, look, I think
it's an exciting time. I think it's an exciting time
because this would be football as we know it, meaning
a full preseason to be able to see everything, um
than the expanding schedule seventeen games where we have an
opportunity to um, you know, like take it down the
stretch like this would be a grind for the teams

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that are the top teams that earn their way into
the postseason, and so you certainly have to um like
the possibilities. Now, I think the one thing that I
am worried about, or um, I'm curious about the records
because the record book changes a little bit, like it
changes the things that we used to site as the
standard thousand yards seasons for running backs, um, four thousand

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yard seasons for quarterbacks. Those numbers in their skewed. The
extra game changes what we what we will use as
kind of like the gold standard of excellent performance? Well,
what was and what was the was the Jeff Fisher?
Was that the seven and nine I'm sick of seven
and nine? Was that? Was that? The line? So? So? So?

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Now is nine and eight good? I mean is eight
nine bad? Like it's eight and nine eight and eight?
Is nine and eight good? Because it's a winning record.
That's another thing that we're going to have to you
have to kind of get adjusted to on all right,
what is the You can't say sixteen and no anymore
because who cares? You can still have another game to play.

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That's that's gonna trip me up a little bit as well.
If what is we got so accustomed to seven and
nine and eight and eight being just, but now it's
gonna be nine and eight. There is gonna be eight
and nine. That's gonna be the IM sure yet, Yeah,
well I think I think the way did you think
about it? Now? You have winners and losers, Like it's
very very clear, um, either you win or you lose,

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you finish with a winning record or not. I mean,
I guess you can go eight eight and one. That
would be crying. But but I mean, look, it gets
everyone off the snidg you that had a winning season
or you didn't have a winning season. So I'm all
right with that. Yeah, And I'll say this, we just
talked about college football expansion. The Bears being in the
playoffs last year showed us that we didn't need to

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expand the NFL playoffs. That that's that was your answer. Yeah,
I know the Colts took the Bills to the to
the y you're in there to seven wild card game,
But the Bears getting into the playoffs last year was
reason for us to be like, all right, maybe expansion
the greatest thing. And such a Bears hater, I just
want to reward the teams that deserve to be rewarded.

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That's all I mean, that's that's that's all that it is.
Everybody at work gets a bonus. Then you find out
that that guy got a bonus too, and you're like,
what doesn't do anything around here? I mean, so now
we we like expanding college football, but we don't like
expanding I don't like expanding college football. That's the that's
the deal, is that there are teams that are that

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get in that shouldn't be in, just like the Bears
shouldn't have been in last year. There's just there's there's
no point in them being in there. It was a
waste of three and a half. Except wasn't that the
Nickelodeon game? So so maybe I had that, maybe you
had that. Uh? I know who I know who hates
the Bears, the Green Bay Packers. But Packer fans may
not be looking as forward to the upcoming season because

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of what's going on with Aaron Rodgers. They may not
be as excited as I am. For one, and Mark
Murphy in a mail bag last week kind of seemed
to me Um opened up a can of worms a
little bit by saying we shouldn't be The less said publicly,
the better. But he was the one who brought up
Aaron Rodgers and said Aaron Rodgers divided the fan base

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unprovoked in an email that I don't even think even
asked the question. It was just him picking the the
email of the Packers media relations team and having that
email be a part of the Q and a that
they posted online. Okay, maybe you make a mull again,
maybe you wish you had that that one back. Fine,
I'll maybe give you a pass on that. But Mark

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Murphy seemed to double down and speaking the ticket holders recently,
and I believe this is courtesy of NBC Green Bay.
Mark Murphy was talking about the Aaron Rodgers situation and
used his former GM the late Ted Thompson, who passed
away recently too. I explained, I guess what Ted Thompson
said about Aaron Rodgers and maybe some other players. This

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was Mark Murphy speaking to Packer ticket holders, of course
getting me earlier this year. Often talk about Aaron that
he's a complor, and it wasn't just Aaron and a
lot of different players. He would say he's a complicated fellow.
So I'll just uh say that. That was Mark Murphy

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speaking about what he heard from Ted Thompson and talking
about Aaron Rodgers. Now again, Ted Thompson passed away. You
wouldn't be able to get his response. But that's what
Mark Murphy is telling now packard ticket holders. And for
as much as I'm usually team oriented, I'm actually more
fan oriented than anything. This is the second time when

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I'm like thinking that Mark Murphy, like, what in the
world are you doing? I have no idea. And if
you're Aaron Rodgers and you're hearing this, I have no
idea what would make you want to go back to
Green Bay or how this situation of those words make
the situation better. I mean, look, I think of it
a couple of different ways. Like, I know, it's very
very popular for everybody to feel like the packers need

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to bend over backwardas to appease Aaron Rodgers. But let's
call it what it is, man, this is big business.
Aaron Rodgers is on the contract. Aaron Rogester has three
years left on his deal. Aaron Rodgers doesn't have any
leverage in this situation. It is all like a myth.
It's all a narrative that we have continued to run
with on our side, but there's no there's no bones
to it. He either plays or he retires. The Packers

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don't have to do anything. In this situation, he either
plays for them or he can sit at home. They're
not under the pressure to trade him, And so I
understand with Matt la Fleur sounding desperate when he steps
to the mic and oh, I may not have Aaron
Rodgers or whatever, but hey, dude, you're the head coach
figured out you got a quarterback the daw drafted in
the first round, Jordan's Love. If number twelve elects not

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to show up and play, the show continues to go on.
And so I understand when Mark Murphy talks about him
being a little complicated, a little different, he is because
he's never come out and fully said what it is
that he wants. He talks in rhymes and riddles and parables.
He has other people carry his water, and so the
frustration has to be from the pakistandpoint, hey man, what

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is it that you want? Like like, like, what, what
exactly do you want? Because you haven't articulated, and then
you went on ESPN and you did this long diet
try but didn't say nothing. So it's frustrating for everyone
that's involved. When it comes to the packers. I actually
I've argued that Green Bay should trade Aaron Rodgers. And
I know that there are people who may think that's
crazy that I think that it's that it's crazy because

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of what Mark Murphy said said, Aaron Rodgers is a
complicated fellow. I think he's a different cat. I think,
and I've said this all along, Aaron Rodgers is just
a different guy. And you can't you can't handle this
situation like you would anybody else. There's always the there's
always the notion of you don't treat everyone the same,
but you treat them fairly. What I think would be

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fair for Green Bay in this situation is you don't
know if Aaron Rodgers is going to show up or not.
So the one thing that you do know is if
you did trade him, you would at least get something
back in return for him when his value is the
absolute highest. And and that's the like, that's the point
where I think, and I just if if you aren't sure,
because you don't know what type of guy he is,

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then you've got to look out for yourself. Aaron Rodgers
could very well leave leave them hanging. And I believe
that these comments by Mark Murphy would be another reason
why Aaron Rodgers would want to leave them hanging now
it's his salary and the thirty million, you know, million
dollars that he'd be leaving on the table. But if
Aaron Rodgers is the complicated fella and the different cat,

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I wouldn't necessarily put it past them. And that's that's
where I where I look at it. Actually think that
Green Bay should entertain as many offers in they can.
How often is a thirty seven year old going to
be thirty eight year old quarterback coming off of an
m v P season, How high is his value going
to be? And and so that's that That's why I
think you have to actually entertain that. And it seems
that Mark Murphy and maybe that front office understand kind

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of a little bit what they're dealing with, even though
I don't think they should be saying that publicly to
their season ticket older So no, I think they should
say publicly. I think all of this is like a joke,
And I know we'll talk about Russell Wilson later. Like
I think all of this stuff with the quarterbacks and
the way that we view quarterbacks in a way that
we're supposed to kind of let them do whatever it
is that they wish because they had a quarterback. I
think it's ridiculous, and I think like having been up

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in Green Bay, having played up in Green Bay, having
known how the Packers in that town, how the fans
feel about that team. Look, I get Aaron Rodgers one
of the best guys to ever done the uniform. So
was Bart Star, so was Brett far So is Reggie White,
so was the list of guys that are in the
Ring of Honor. And so the Packers will continue to
Philip lambeau Field with or without Aaron Rodgers, and the

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show will continue to go on. And he doesn't have
any leverage. So I don't understand why the Green Bay
Packers would give him what he wants just because he
wants to go and play maybe on the West Coast,
to do something different. Like now you're in the contract.
You're in the contract, and there's nothing that we get.
We don't get a couple of picks. I don't think
he's going to fetch as much in return as people

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would think. He's thirty seven, thirty eight years old. I
don't think you can get to three four number one
picks for Aaron Rodgers at the stage of his career. Well,
let's let's continuous. Let's continue to talk about quarterbacks. He's
fucking brooksh I'm Dan Buyer. It's Fox Sports Saturday. Get
Bucky on Twitter at Bucky Brooks. You can find me
on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox. We'll talk about
the quarterbacks and their roles. And I actually think that

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it wouldn't be doing Aaron Rodgers a favor. I actually
think green Bay would be looking out more for themselves.
We'll talk about that after David Gascon gives us the
latest of what's going on on this Saturday. What's going on, David? Yeah,
I completely agree with you, Dan. I think that green
Bay should punt on Rodgers and just send him to Denver,
just outcast him to Denver. Why not? You know, like

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Adams too, You know you can just have the greatest
receiving corps and then like that, maybe said Darius Smith,
can be thrown in. Not bet at all, guys, we'll
leave things off first. In Major League Baseball right now,
bunch of games are being played as we speak. Tampile
and Baltimore five to nothings to score. White Sox are

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smothering the Tigers. You got the Angels and Diamonds going on.
From Arizona home team leading right now five to one,
Phillies with four to lead over the Yankees. College base
ball continues on as it goes into the Super Regionals
into Omaha and Mississippi State. Just beating Notre Dame nine
eight is the final. Vendorbilt going back to Omaha, Jack
Lyder picked up the w. They beat East Carolina four

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to one. Was the score. Nothing doing for a couple
of hours from now with the NBA Clippers and Jazz
Mike Conney not playing today, Clippers in a two old
hole against Utah. Game starts at five thirty Pacific, eight
thirty Eastern. Guys, back to you, thanks a lot. David
is Fox Sports Saturday. He's Bucky Brooks, NFL Scouts, NFL veteran,

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NFL Network, Movie Sticks Podcast, Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Buyer,
sitting in on a Saturday. Usually it's you and Jodas
Knocks teaming up. Today it's it's you and me doing this.
So all right, let's get into the quarterback at the dilemma,
the quarterback diva. The diva's is That's what I was
assuming that you were saying. I don't want to put
words in your mom don't know. That's that's it. You

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called me. Look, I'm a little grumpy. I didn't have
a great, nice sleep, so I'm I'm a little I'm
a little heated. But like we're gonna talk about these
quarter Rex and I've been irritated by them the entire offseason,
so we can have at it. I I this is
I'll just quick give you just a quick synopsis, is
what I think, and then I will let you have
the floor. And I hope I don't actually you don't
want I'm not even gonna steal your thunder go ahead.

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Here's what I think. Everybody wants what tom Brady has um,
but they haven't done what tom Brady has done. And
I think that I think that is I think that
is a very excellent point and observation. And I think
what has happened and what has been clouded in this,
as you pointed and alluded to, is everybody wants what
they think tom Brady has. But here's the thing about

(27:40):
Tom Brady and what tom Brady has been able to do.
Tom Brady never got top of the market money right,
so he's never had top of the market money at
any time doing the new his new England Patriots, run
and tenure in those things, right, And so at the
end of it, people talking about, yeah, but he didn't
have the weapons, and so he went to Tampa because
he needed more weapons. Right. The thing about what happened

(28:01):
when he went to Tampa, this team was already pretty
much constructed when Tom Brady showed up. All of the
stars were already there. I know people like to point to, hey,
but they gave him Rob Gronkowski. Hey, they gave him
Antonio Brown. But when we go back and we look
at the regular season, how big of the roles did
each of those guys play? Not very significant. They made

(28:25):
some plays, but they weren't the driving force of the team.
It was Mike Evans, Chris God. When the defense they
got better, they got hot down the stretch. And I
would go so far to say that they didn't necessarily
win the Super Bowl because of Tom Brady. He played
a role in making sure that they got there, and
he managed it in those things. The defenses was stepped

(28:47):
up and carry them over the threshold. And so I
think we have to understand that. But because we romanticized
the quarterback position, we've given Tom Brady all of the
credit for Tampa Bay being Super Bowl champs, and he
played a huge role, but he's not the only reason.
When I think about Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson and
even Deshaun Watson before the off the field issues came

(29:09):
into it, they all got the big check, right, they
all got the big money. They didn't necessarily help their
team out when they took the big money. But now
we're saying, oh, we gotta get them so much other stuff.
They need all of this other stuff. Well, you can't
have it all, Like what's it saying? You can't have
your cake and eat it too. If you want more help,

(29:30):
then why don't you take a little bit of a
discount so you can get the help that you want.
But you can't complain when you take all the money
on a short term deal that makes it very hard
for your team to then operate a maneuver, which both
Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers did, and so to me
is disingenuous when they paint this picture like, I mean,

(29:52):
I just don't have the help that I need. What
dode If you want more help than take a little
lesser money so they can give you the help that
you on and final thing. But Aaron Rodgers was irritating
and annoying. I would say even disrespectful to the players.
Everyone talks about the first round receivers, they have to
be drafted the receiver in the first round. You know,
it's only been one receiver in the first round with

(30:13):
a thousand yards since twenty seventeen, and that was justin Jefferson.
And so then when I think about all the players
that have been Pro Bowl wide receivers for them, they
have come from the second and third round. Davante Adams,
Um James Jones, Round the Cob, Jordy Nelson, Greg Jennings,
on and on and on. This is what the Packers do.
So I don't understand the argument when he said pro

(30:35):
Bowl players around. I'll even double down on that is
when they drafted Jordy Nelson, it was a bit of
a surprise. And I would actually even say then when
they added Randall Cobb and you already had Greg Jennings
and Jordy Nelson, You're saying to yourself, why are you
drafting Randall Cobb now when you already have two legitimate

(30:56):
wide receivers. That's people forget about that. But yeah, they
get so hung up on the first round wide receivers
when if you go back to those drafts and when
they were actually making those picks and specifically with Nelson
and Cobb and Jennings was obviously far but to your point,
it was the same regime that was making those picks,
so it wasn't like there was anything different going on.

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They took guys when they probably didn't need to take guys,
or you wouldn't think that it would be a need
at that time. So I I completely agree with you
that it is a It is a completely false narrative.
And what what would you rather you want Josh doson
because he was a first round pick, Like, is that
what you'd rather have him than a Randall Calbert or
Davante Adams or to me, I I am a hundred

(31:37):
percent with you on that. I think that's such a
bogus argument because they've done plenty to to aid Aaron
Rodgers and made that offense. Look, they have done plenty
to aid it. Now I would say that there are
things that they could have done right. And I understand
the frustration because at the end of the game, um,
when they had an opportunity to put it in Aaron
Rodgers hands, the players over plays, give it a Rodges,

(32:00):
don't keep the field goal. If if he is what
we all think he is as an m v P player,
then let him. Um let go down with him, Let
him go down. But let me also take you back
as to why. Because people are really charged up about
the Jordan's love can I can I quick say something
about that, like Brian good constant make the call to
kick the field goal? Oh no, he didn't, you know,

(32:20):
like does the floor? Yeah? Yeah. So so now you're
you're mad at the GM because he still didn't get
a phone call about the Jordan's love thing. But you're
gonna hold that against him, like, yeah, go ahead and
go ahead about Jordan loves Okay. So so here's the
thing about the Jordan love thing that is really irritating
to me when I hear it. Right, so everyone is like,
oh my god, they have to call him, they have
to let him know whatever, which is true. Typically, when

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you have a franchise quarterback in the building, regardless of
whether um it's gonna hurt his feelings or not, you
pick up a phone and said, hey man, here we
go in the first round. Uh, we're thinking about taking
a quarterback. We're gonna take him. Like it's not your
job to mentor him, but I just want you to
know so you're not out and it buzzes on your
phone that we to con via Twitter. All Right. The
reason why they drafted Jordan's Love is because if you

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go back and you look at the way that Aaron
Rodgers had played the three years before that, his completion
percentage and his passer rating in each of those three
years prior to the pick had all decrease in the client.
He also had some injuries that had popped up. He
also was nearing thirty six years of age. And I
know we're looking at Tom Brady and we begin to

(33:26):
think that every quarterbacks you played de Fordy, but that's
not the reality. The Green Bay Packers were sitting here saying, man,
we might have a quarterback that is on the descent.
We may need to get a young quarterback in here
now to let him sit behind him a year or
two or do those things, which to me is a
very reasonable deal because hey, Aaron Rodgers, you came in

(33:48):
in the same situation with Brett Farve, Like that's what
it is. He played better and also remember the reports
coming out early the first year when they were talking
about like he and Matt look Lure. It may have
been on the same page. Aaron Rodgers wasn't necessarily playing
in a very structured offense under Mike McCarthy, and then

(34:08):
in that first year he wasn't really doing it. Last year,
after being mad because they brought Jordan Love in, he
stayed to the confines of the offense. We didn't see
as many of those freestyle plays, and lo and behold,
he played at a high level. He returned to an
m v P level. But now because you played at
the m v P, you can't go and have revisionist

(34:29):
history on how they brought the guy in. And so
to me, I just don't understand why he can't let
it go. Let it go. I I am on board
with that. And the other thing that I would give
Brian good accundance to the front office a pat on
the back, and it kind of comes full circle, is
to your point about what Aaron Rodgers did over those

(34:50):
three years plus. There was always the Rogers is a
complicated fella. He may not know if he's just gonna
walk away and retire, and he don't want to be held.
You know, you don't want to be there with your
pants down and all of a sudd Now you don't
have a quarterback to deal with because you just don't
know about him. And now we're in the situation that
we are. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. This is

(35:11):
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(35:31):
of sports. We'll tell you next year on Fox Sports Saturday.
Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Buyer. He's Bucky Brooks. It
is a Saturday that I mean. The European Soccer Championships
have started in a scary situation, uh happening earlier today
with Christian Ericson of Denmark collapsing. Buddy is a stable hospitalized,

(35:52):
but in stable condition after after doing that. But we
are a week away from the U S Open. We're
kind of in a quiet period in the NFL. It's
that there's only one NBA playoff games, so it's kind
of a quiet saturday, I feel, bucky, don't you get that?
Get that sense maybe an opportunity you could get some
yard work done, maybe clean up around the house a
little bit, or listen to us. That's that's the sense

(36:15):
that I get on this on this June twelve as
we sit here. Yeah, I mean it's it's a different time.
I mean, this is uh, it's kind of we're kind
of in that that funny spot right when you hit
this part of the season because O T A S
and mini camps would come into a close and so
from a football perspective, this is kind of the the
the month off the day period, right, So this is

(36:35):
the last week of mini camps that we have upcoming.
Then you have that full month where you have the
NBA Finals, you have to College World Series, Um, you
have hockey going and for Earnest, and you have some
selected things that are going. But so we're times. So yeah,
I would say if you don't have interest in those
other sports, yeah, go to some yard work now some

(36:56):
other stuff, you know, try to put on the old
clothes and and do in this show today made me
think of you because when I would team up with
you and when we would do shows in person pre pandemic.
You know, there are times I try to wear um
some of my North Carolina stuff and I only have
I only have two items. This would always be for Bucky.
But this made me realize as well as I'm maybe

(37:18):
you want to clean out your closet today. Maybe it's
too hot outside, you know, the air air is just
too much, so you turn on the A C. And
you do some work inside. I realized, and going through
my stuff, that my North Carolina sweatshirt that I wear
with you is my oldest item of clothing. And I'm
curious with what you have or what what? What Lee

(37:38):
and Don and Gascon have oldest piece of clothing still
in your rotation? That North Carolina sweatshirt. I am not kidding.
I bought Winter of two thousand one. I think it's
it's twenty years old. And I still wear this North
Carolina sweatshirt, not wearing it when it's a hundred degrees
out like it is today, but old, this piece of

(38:00):
clothing still in your rotation, Bucky Brooks, that's funny that
you bring that up. Because literally last night I just
cleaned up my closet. I literally I literally clean up
the closet. I just got it a bunch of athletic
where and I was like, okay, let me get rid
of all this stuff. And so I'm looking through and
I'm look, I'm really trying to live, like, hey, let's
prune the trees, keep everything down, like, don't have a

(38:20):
lot of stuff or whatever. And I'm trying to think.
I came across a couple of sweatshirts. Um, there's an
old North Carolina sweatshirt that I don't even know if
i've I've ever worn, but I bought it when I
went to a game maybe five or six years ago.
And it's one of those that you only can get
from the student store. Like if you can imagine like

(38:42):
kind of the old Champion or whatever, the gray with this,
like it it lasts forever, like you can't get you
can't get moth balls on, like it just it just
lasts forever. So I have yeah, And then look, there's
a super Bowl sweatshirt, might be super Bowl fifty two,
it's not too old. There there's a Super Bowl thirty

(39:03):
eight pull over from Oh Wow, that's Bucks Raiders, right, No, no, no,
that was Patriots, Yeah, Raiders and the nostalgia and that
is I was working for the Panthers and that's when
um my disdaining for Tom Brady may have happened when
they went down the fielding field ago. So that's just
a stark reminded there. But most of the stuff is gone.

(39:25):
There's an old Buffalo Bills like sweatsuit that I don't know.
I keep in there because I'm not it's not a fix,
but it's it's older. I would never wear it, but
it's kind of hanging in there because I'm like, what,
I'm gonna take it to good Will and then what
somebody else I'm gonna driving around. I'm gona see somebody
else in my Swiss and be like hey. Like So

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there's some things like that that are that are in
the closet, but I've tried to get rid of a
lot of this. It's in rotation. Lee oldest item that
you can think of, no surprise, Brett Farve jerseys, because
I would uh, I'd be often I'd be Brett Farve
Zombie for Holloway, so I'd have bigger jerseys to fit
over shoulder pads and then so they still fit me today. Alright,
gascon oldest piece. What are we talking? Man, I get

(40:08):
I got to sleeless old school football practice shirts from
my high school days I still wear just because when
I work out, I trained them to give me extra
motivation to not outgrow them. That that's you know, that's
the worst part about this. And Don you got you
got a piece quick, because I gotta I gotta wrap
this up. Yeah, I'll just say it's my stage championshow
hoodie And that's from Wow. That's that's over a decade.

(40:32):
The Dave's point. The worst part about this is my
North Carolina sweatshirt was like an extra large or like
double X baggy when you bought it, because twenty years ago, hey,
everything is big, everything is roomy, and now it fits
like a glove. Like that's the worst part about it.
Was twenty years ago it was, man, this thing is baggy,
this is the style, and now it still fits. Oh. Man,

(40:55):
is Russell Wilson going to fit back in Seattle? He's
Bucky bro time, Dan Buyer. We talked about it next
Don Fox. You'd think everybody would want to play for
the Kansas City Chiefs. Apparently that is not the case.
We'll fill you in on what that's all about it
a little bit. Get Bucky Brooks on Twitter at Bucky Brooks.
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(41:16):
Fox it is a Saturday. We Bucky and I started
about an hour ago, and the quarterback talk was hot
and heavy, and we touched a little bit on Russell
Wilson's situation in Seattle. Now while Aaron Rodgers was holding
out of mandatory minicamp in Green Bay, the Seahawks had
some voluntary o t A s this past week with
their mandatory mini camp coming up, and Russell Wilson was

(41:37):
in attendance. It was also the first time that we
actually got to hear from Russell Wilson speaking to the
media after he had that interview with Dan Patrick last
year or excuse me earlier this year, following the season,
talking about not wanting to get hit as much, wanting
to have a say in how things are going any
made those comments to reporters in February as well, after
the Buccaneers ended up winning the Super Bowl and Russell

(41:59):
Wilson had a nice seat and watching that happen. Russell
Wilson was at Seahawks O T a s and explained
this thought process and what it's actually transpired this entire
off season. In terms of the trade talks, I think
that anytime you play professional sports, there's always a possibility
of something happened, right, And I think that's just the reality.
I think that there's a lot of teams out there
that people were saying that I was going to or

(42:21):
would go to it. I have requested a trade. I
did not request the trade. Um. I've always wanted to
play here, um, you know, and and the reality is that,
you know, uh. I think calls were getting thrown around
and this and that, and I think that's just a reality. Um.
But I think at the end of the day, the
real reality is that I'm here, and I'm here to win.
I'm here to win it all. I think technically he's right,

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but it's not like he helped ease the situation. He
just took gasoline and poured it on the fire and
stoked those flames even more by having his agent come
out with a list of teams that he'd like to
go to, which, by the way, three of the four
seemed to already have their quarterback situation uh in place,
or at least two of the four did, maybe not
the Saints upon the retirement of Drew Brees. But point

(43:02):
being is, the list was short for the teams that
Russell Wilson would go to. Now that he showed up
to O. T. A. S. Bucky, now that they have
an offensive coordinator they had input in, now that they've
acquired Gabe Jackson, now that they've used the second round
pick on a wide receiver. Does Russell Wilson have any
reason to not want to be in Seattle. No, he
never had any reasons and not want to be there.

(43:22):
I think this thing is as annoyed as I am
by the Aaron Rodgers thing. I'm even more annoyed by
the Russell Wilson thing because I think what Russ has
done is Russ is kind of hid behind and and
and showed up and said, like what I don't I
don't understand, Like the trade thing. I never did anything like, dude,
you went on dan Patrick dan Patrick and basically through
everybody under the bus, like everybody, your teammates, your coaches,

(43:47):
the structure of the front office and all these things.
And as I've said from the beginning. I haven't had
a chance to see to you. This was always about
the money. It always is about the money when it
comes to these situations, both in Aaron Rodgers and also
with Russell Wilson. Russell will since is in the last
year with like guaranteed money, nineteen million dollars is guaranteed
next year is not guaranteed at nineteen and then he
goes up at thing to twenties three. He can be

(44:08):
up out of there. Um, he doesn't have any guarantees.
He wants more money. Um, he wants to deal. He
won't say it, he won't come out of publicly say it.
But that's what this is about. It's about getting a
contract extension so he has more guarantees. And when they
see guys like Patrick Mahomes and Dak Prescott and even
Deshaun Watson signed deals that put them over the forty
million mark, they want to get up there, both Aaron

(44:29):
Rodgers and Russell Wilson. And so the problem that I
have is when he talked about not getting not wanting
to get hit so much tied of getting hit. Some
of that we could say, okay, yeah, okay. The offensive line,
You're like, yeah, we don't like some of the things
that they've done. But Russ doesn't play a quick rhythm style.
He doesn't play like Drew Brees where they hike it
to him, the ball getting his hand and this out quickly.

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He's a freestyle player, and when you're a freestyle player,
you're going to get hit more because the offensive line
they don't have eyes in the back of their head,
so they never know where the lawn point is when
Russell is playing behind him. And then when I think
about the offense, and he said he wanted more, say
the offense that they're bringing in Shane Waldron coming in
from the Rams. It's the same system that enabled Aaron

(45:13):
Rodgers to play the m v P level in Green Bay.
More structured, has movement. But if he adheres to the
tennis of the system, he's going to have more easy
plays for him instead of playing this freestyle, breakneck style
that we've seen him play. The final thing with Russ
when he talked about from a philosophical standpoint, he appears
to want the ball in his hands more a let

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rust cook. I know you're twelve. You guys want rust
to cook and do all this stuff. And so last
year they let Rust cook. In the first half of
the year, it was great, like thirty or four points
they were averaging. He was over three d yards per game,
and those things. What happened in the middle of the
season team started playing more covered two, taking away to
deep shots, which forces the quarterback to throw in rhythm.

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Russ is not a great in rhythm thrower, and so
the points went down to twenty two points the game.
He was only averaging about two d and five passing
yards per game. His passer rating went from one seventeen
during the first half of the year to like eighties six.
And so it has been proven time and time again
whenever they let Russ cook, he burns the meals in
the kitchen. They don't win as much when he's cooking.

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They are just better when they run it. They play defense,
and then Russ makes some handful of plays at the
end of the game. And so it's interesting that he
wants all of these things when I don't know if
he's proven that he can be the ultimate playmaker and
then win because they have him once since they got
rid of everything doing it the old stuff. Yeah, yeah,
And you know the Russell Wilson has been a topic

(46:38):
of conversation and obviously following the Seahawks. I have a
decent sense, So that just bring up the point of,
you know, they're super Bowl win he didn't throw a
touchdown into the fourth quarter of what was a blowout game.
So it's it's one of those things that, yeah, he
does have a super Bowl ring, but how much was
it about Russell Wilson and how much was it about
everything else in that game? Now not taking it didn't

(46:59):
do stuff to help them get to that point. But
the point being is is, yeah, it was a blowout
victory and he got the Super Bowl ring, but it
wasn't like he was Tom Brady and driving them down
the field for the game winning field goal that didn't happen.
I I think there's a lot of pressure under on
him this season for a lot of what you said,
but now also because they've given him all of the

(47:22):
things that he wants and they've responded, or or the
things that we apparently thought that he wanted, not the
money that you think that it's all about money. But
now if Russell Wilson comes up and doesn't step up
his play, the offensive line calls are hollow. After acquiring
Gabe Jackson. By the way, if there was any time
to complain about their offensive line, it was prior to

(47:45):
them acquiring Dwayne Brown. I mean when when I mean
it was they had the worst line in the league
about three or four years ago and it wasn't even
closed and you didn't hear the complaints then, but you
hear it now when you have the veteran left tackle
who who knows, I mean, could be his livest You're
in Seattle, but you drafted Damian Lewis who was a
decent guard. Now you've brought in Gabe Jackson play another

(48:06):
guard position. They've they've addressed those sort of things. You've
you've got your offensive coordinator to to what you're saying. Now,
it's all on Russ. And that's why I think outside
of Baker Mayfield, because I think that the Browns have
really big things ahead of them if the quarterback can
continue to play at a at a at a high level.
Outside of him, I think that Russ has the most

(48:27):
pressure just because he actually got everything that he asked
for and if it doesn't work out in Seattle, or
if he isn't able to cook as you say, I
think that his reputation and what we think of Russell
Wilson changes drastically because of what happened this offseason. Yeah,
you got it all. Yeah, I mean he he has
it all. I mean they have two of the weapons

(48:48):
on the outside, DK mackuv and Tyler Lockett. Um. They
keep the tires to see if they can out another weapon.
They've always been very aggressive when it comes to trying
to see if they can have firepower to the offense.
Um the new offensive coordinator, even though they want to run,
run the ball, and they're going to run the ball
because the basis of that offense, whether it's the Shanahan
with the Shanahan and the Niners, uh Sean McVeigh with

(49:09):
the Rams and the Fluorid, the running game is always
a big part of it. And so the running games
should be better and they should create more big play
opportunities down the field. Um, it's about Russ being able
to make plays. And we have to be honest when
he comes to Russell Wilson. They haven't been to a
championship game. They haven't been to another Super Bowl since
they handed this team to him. And what I mean

(49:30):
by handing it they removed all of the detractors on
the defensive of the ball. They said, hey, man, who
y'all need to be careful giving this thing to Russ
like we do it because of the l ob, you know,
And so they haven't done it, and so at some
point he has to deliver, and he hasn't delivered. I
think that Pete Carroll is I don't know how much

(49:52):
to blame. I think that he that he shoulders a
little of it. I do think that last year that
Pete Carroll did not want, did not want to have
the worst defensive NFL history on his resume. Not a
defensive guy. And that's where they were halfway through the season.
Actually wasn't bad record wise, they were. I mean that
the record wise for the season was twelve and four.
They won the the NFC West. We make it look

(50:13):
like they're, you know, like things were awful in Seattle.
It's just that their early playoff exit against a team
they don't match up well with in the Rams, you know,
kick them out of the playoffs. And now you're saying, hey,
what's going on and what's wrong? But really, when you
looked at that team, I don't know how much of
a Super Bowl caliber team that was. But I do
think that Pete Carroll does not want did not want

(50:34):
that on his resume. And it's also gonna be up
to Pete Carroll that if you start out last season
like you did, you know they're they're Buffalo game. They
didn't get a stop against Josh Allen at all. Buffalo
just said we're just gonna throw the football on you
and just you know, it's gonna be a track meet.
And then Russ ended up, you know, having some costly
turnovers in that game. But I still think there is
a little bit on Pete Carroll as well to see

(50:55):
if if you're gonna let restok Russ cook, you better
continue to let him cook and not switch gears up
through the second half of the season to really get
a sense of where you are. So I think, so
here here's the thing, and I think it's it's one
of the things. Um, the game is necessarily played in
the vacuum, meaning that you can't necessarily call the offense
just based on the offense being what it is. Right Like,

(51:17):
the best teams play complimentary ball. The offense protects the
defense and those things, and so when the defense was
leaking oil like it was early in the year. The
way that you protect the defense is by shortening the game.
And the way that you shorten the game is by
running the football, fewer possessions, fewer snaps at defenses on
the field. It gives them a chance. It also gives
the Seahawks a chance to kind of control the game. Right,

(51:40):
So you talked about that Buffalo game that turned out
to be a track meet. When you're playing in those
games and you know you're short on fire prior defensively,
and you also know from an offensive line standpoint, you
don't want to be in protect more, it just makes
it hard. And so what Pete is trying to do
is trying to get Russell to kind of see it.
Because here's the thing we talked about, the tom Brady effect, right,
Tom Brady understands that part of it. You don't really

(52:03):
hear tom Brady like complaining about number of past attempts
and those things, because from week to week, you have
to play a different way to win the game. And
that's what the Patriots would do. Sometimes they have morph
into a power team. All the times they're spread and
shred and do it. I think Pete understands that. I
just don't know if some of the quarterbacks understand it.
Hey man, this week, it might not be in your

(52:24):
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(52:47):
I'm Dan Buyers, sit again for Jonas Knocks today. He's
Bucky Brooks. Glad to have you along on Fox Sports Radio.
Teased it earlier and we're gonna give you the answer
next guests who did not have a good time playing
with Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid and the Kansas City Chiefs.
It's a notable name. We'll tell you next year on
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Buyer. He's

(53:13):
Bucky Brooks, former NFL player, NFL Scout, Move the Sticks Podcast,
NFL Network and our teammate here at Fox Sports Radio,
Gay Bucky on Twitter at Bucky Brooks, I'm at Dan
Buyer on Fox, gonna check in with our fs R
NFL insider Adam Kaplan and just a little bit. But

(53:34):
I wanna quick bring up this story. Levy on Bell
is apparently not a happy camper, or it was not
a happy camper. In speaking on Instagram, Levan Bell said
I'll never play for Andy Reid again. I'd retire first
that the quote from Levy on Bell after his half

(53:54):
of season in Kansas City that ended up ending in
a Super Bowl loss. Are you surprised Bucky Brooks to
hear that sort of response from Leby on Bell. Yes,
I'm very surprised. I'm very surprised because just knowing everything
that I know about Andy Reid, having played for him
in Green Bay, having watched him from Afar, the one
thing that I do know is man he has a

(54:16):
reputation for being a player's coach in terms of he's
gonna treat his players right. He's gonna make sure everything
is first class. They're gonna work, but he's gonna make
sure that he does right by them. He also is
an excellent communicator and so um I am really surprised
at Levy and Bill expresses a disdain for Andy Reid
and whatever took place while he was there, you know.

(54:37):
And I don't know if something got sideways in terms
of um the communication, in terms of expectations how he
expected to play when he came in versus how they
used him or any of those things. But look, man,
that's unbecoming a loving Bill. And even if you felt
like that for a guy who may be looking for
another gig, probably not great to go on Instagram and

(54:58):
put that out there Andy Reid, because you know, it
only eliminates you from a handful of other teams like
Matt Naggi's with the Chicago Bears, like his assistants have
gone on to other places. John Harbaugh a is a
guy that played for It just narrows your you know,
it just narrows your wish list a little bit. It
supports my theory that Levyan Bell leads the NFL and

(55:20):
bad decisions like like they're they're like there were of
holdouts of what you want to do with your weed
of now going out and saying this that hum is
I agree with you, Dan, but I don't want to
say I agree with you. I mean, I'm with you.
It wasn't. I'm not one that would have left twelve
million or fourteen million dollars on the table um to

(55:43):
prove a point. I would have gotten the money from
Pittsburgh and didn't try to get another big deal because
you never make that fourteen million dollars up. Um. Things
haven't been right since that point. Uh So it's look,
it's an issue. It is. It's a problem. You mentioned
things going sideways. Clyde Edwards Laire's season went sideways when

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Levyan Bell came in. It did, and the and another.
The chief set issues on the offensive line, obviously, and
by the time they got to the Super Bowl that
they had neither of their tackles. They were relying completely
on the right shoulder and legs of Patrick Mahomes. That's
that's what they were doing. But they didn't they didn't
really establish a run game. They did in a game

(56:26):
against the Raiders. And this is how you know that
Clyde Edwards Laia my fantasy team because I can recall
these games and what game he did what. But he
was coming off of a hundred and sixty yard effort
against the Bills and then Levan Bell comes in and
now all of a sudden, you've got a bit of
a split time share. You've got Levyan Bells starting the game.
And it really just seemed and by the way, at

(56:49):
the end of the year, Darryl Williams was their best
running back, Like that's the guy that they relied on
in doing anything. So it wasn't like there was, you know,
great success with Levan Bell. In fact, his addition seemed
to really kind of sidetrack the Chiefs running game. Yeah,
I mean, I think here's the deal. I think with

(57:09):
were allar like, the one thing that we have to
see is Kenny. Kenny tote it as as a workhorse.
Canny be the guy they expect him to be, because
what you want to see is you want to see
a guy that cannot only make the plays that he
made an l s U out of the backfield, but
can he be a premier number one because when the
Chiefs are rolling, it's because the run game was there.

(57:31):
And look, this is this was a bad period. I
understand why they had to make the move with Kareem Hunt,
but honestly, the offense that they had with Kareem Hunt,
where they had the balanced part of it. With the
run game, that was the most dangerous offense that the
Chiefs had put out, And I know that was a
little bit before Pat Mahomes kind of took over. But
if you give them a legitimate weapon in the backfield,

(57:52):
what defenses have to really commit to defending the run
and the past, that's when the Chiefs are their most dangerous.
Joining us is our sports radio NFL insider Adam Kaplan
and Adam just to fill you in on the conversation
that that Bucky and I were having a Levian Bell
on a social media Instagram post saying that he will
h he would retire, he would never play for Andy

(58:14):
Reid again. Quote I'd retire first end quote. How surprised
are you with comments from Levian Bell about Andy Reid? Well,
I could just tell you he didn't work it. Bell
looked uncomfortable. Um, they didn't really. He's got such a
unique running style he's to stop and start running back,
and he looked uncomfortable when he got a chance to play.

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They really needed him last year because Clyde Edwards Hilaire
was really not ready to be their full time starter
and it just didn't work with Bell, and he probably
wasn't happy. I mean, I'm not surprised. He's been sort
of an outspoken guy anyway, Like this is guy who
took a year off from football. So I mean, really
be surprised that anything that he says. I Bucky didn't
want to say it, but I said, and I said
that he was the league leader and bad decisions Leviyan Bell.

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So that's bad. I mean, look that the bit and
the running back Bucky knows this from Scott and running
back shelf life is short. I mean it was a
bad mistake. Very talented guy though, really was an amazing
football player for the Steelers. But he's on his last legs.
I don't know how much he really has. Laugh, you
look bad with the chiefs now again, it didn't work
from a blocking standpoint. He just there's never sent up

(59:20):
with his offensive line. It's very obvious when watching how
bad he looked, but you can't you don't know if
it was just the timing or is it or his
leg shot. We don't know, but he doesn't have a
job right now. No, it's funny. And also to come
out publicly with a shot like that when you have
so many guys that are connected to and you read
in the league did not not really a smart thing.
So here's what some would say, is not a smart thing.

(59:42):
If you're Mark Murphy, why why why do you air
your agreements? Is Aaron rot just like that so the
world can can can hear it? Yeah? I was surprised.
Like last weekend, they that mail bag that came out
on the Packer's website where we talked about the the
Roger situations split the fan base, which I I respect

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Murphy's candor, but there's really no need to go there.
And then his last comments this week, I mean, is
it How does that endear you to Aaron Rodgers? How
how will this help you get him back when we
get when training campster when they have to report to
training camp on light twenty seven. Have just made no
sense to me. Mark Murphy right now is best off
saying absolutely nothing. And um quite frankly, the if the

(01:00:29):
coaches want to go on record say how much they
wanted back, go right ahead. But the general matter obviously
as well, who's who's drawn rogers ire? But there's really
no reason for anyone to say anything right now because
you can only make it worse, and it is the story.
By the way, there's really it's this is a quiet
time the National Football League. This is the story leading
up to training and nothing comes close to it. And

(01:00:50):
by the way, you'd be no surprise that this Mark
Murphy is the second favorite all time Mark Murphy of
Packer fans. The bald headed safety of the nineties was
a more popular Mark Murphy than this one. Remember number
all thirty seven, remember him Kaplan? He was Mike Pryor.
There's actually Mike Prior to talk about it. It is it.
There is a Mark of Murphy number thirty seven. Yes,
this is yeah, the ninth. Yeah, the night Mike Prior.

(01:01:12):
Mike Prior, wasn't it Mike, Oh, I don't know who
that guy. That's Mike Friyor was a bald safety because
the Packers, Yeah, nineties and yeah, yeah this this is
a different Mark Murphy. I don't know that guy. People. Yeah,
people thought that, oh he's the guy, and it's like, no,
it was a different guy. This is a redheaded guy. Anyway,
we'll we'll move on. So today Adam Kaplan joining us
here on the one Fox Sports Radio. Sean McVeigh and

(01:01:35):
now was saying, man I'm happier this offseason. You know,
this is I feel better, Like, like, what what are
we hearing about the Rams? Are these expectations real? Does
Matthew Stafford make that much of a difference for this
team now in the NFC West, let's start down with
the ladder. Yes, he does um the way that I
understand it. With Jared Goff, you know, obviously they got
the Bowl with him. He is a talent quarterbacks, former

(01:01:55):
one pick overall in sixteen, but you're very limited in
terms of what passages you're gonna ask when to make Key's.
He did well when everything was highly structured for him,
and you know, you raw them out, roll him away
from the defense and things would work out for him.
But when when he was under pressure and when he
was out of structure, he struggle a little bit more.

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And with Matthew Stafford first, always got a much better arm.
There's so much more you could do with Stafford. He's
obviously much more accomplished in terms of longevity. Now, Jared
Goff goes to Detroit and we'll see how that works
out for him. But I know they're excited to have Stafford.
And I'll say this one thing, about what McVey said.
He was just responding about having Matthew Stafford. He was
not talking about Jared Goff, and he had to clarify

(01:02:38):
his comments. He's a little bit disappointed. He thought he
was taken out of content context of that quote, not
have the full quote. So I've seen it. I've seen
that the other quotes, So I don't I get what
he meant, but let's call it like it is. He wanted,
he wanted. He wanted Matthew Stafford. He did not want
Jared Goffee had kind of moved on. That's the truth.
I could tell you everything I've gathered in the front
from people who would know. Um, he just wanted to

(01:03:01):
move on from Jared Goff. I strongly believe it's just
what I said a minute ago. There's so much more
you can do with Matthew Stafford in terms of your
past game. I don't think there's any question about it.
You know, it's it seems funny like the quarterback situation
and how quickly teams have fallen in and out of
love with quarterbacks. Um. There's been positive conversations coming out

(01:03:22):
of Miami about two A tong about Lawa. What have
you been able to uncover when you may phone calls
down their way. Yeah, it is. It's better because he's
got a better understanding though. Of course the changeing the
offense once again, Shane Gailey has gone and that that's
probably the easiest offense to learn. Um, this is gonna
be more of a run based offense. UM with the
great Ark Studisville more of the run game designer, and

(01:03:42):
George Gottsy probably will be the play caller. He called
plays on Bill O'Brien for a bit. Uh So, at
least they have that experience. They've loaded up what wide receivers.
There's probably no team deeper now in the National Football
League at wide receiver than the Dolphins. Are there legit
seven deep that I don't know if I'll make the
team to get Albert Wilson act from the opt out.
Alan Hearn's back from the opt out to give us

(01:04:02):
a veteran depth trade for the signing of Will Fuller.
So he's got to miss one more game through his
sixteen suspension, but he's one best deep threats in the league.
Jane Waddle their first round pick, who quite frankly, there's
some teams that had him as a top three player,
and it's got Devantie Parker's gift in Mike Asiki it said,
and they're they're loaded, and they've they've revamped their offensive line,

(01:04:23):
so they've built around to it. It's now it's time
for him to take the next step up. But we've
talked about this on FSR before. Is Brian Floord is
gonna pull him when things aren't going well. No one
plays perfect every game, So last year he pulled him
twice and it would have been a third time. Ed
Ryan Fitzpatrick Knapen on the COVID list in weeks seven
teen against Buffalo or two did not play well. They

(01:04:45):
got blown out. So you just wonder what's going to
be the patience level. I've never seen anything like this
before where you have a relief quarterback, like, okay, my
quarterbacks on playing well, let's bring in the let's bring
in the relief pitcher. Don't work like that. Brian Flords
has done a good job, but that situation is not
the way that you both comins city on quarterback. I'm
that situation if we did what a top ten storylines

(01:05:05):
for the National Footballing this season in terms of the
regulars is not training camp that's one as we had to.
Once we get to late August, well, will Brian flour
show patients into Adam capital Our Fox Sports Radio NFL
in Center joining us at Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dad Buyer.
He's Bucky Brooks. Full disclosure, Adam. It was gonna start tomorrow,

(01:05:25):
but i' mean today with you. I was gonna just
start to ask fantasy football questions as well, because I
told Bucky about an hour ago. I said, listen, I am.
I am so excited for NFL season, more so than
any other season in recent memory, and fantasy football plays
a part of it. But I also know people are
prepping for their drafts and what's coming up. I want
to go to d C. In the end of the

(01:05:47):
role of Antonio Gibson, Ron Rivera seems pretty high on
what he can do. Can Gibson handle the type of
role that maybe Rivera dreams of with the Washington football team.
He can. The only thing is he you know, he's
had the lingering turf chill injury. He's not completely over it.
That would concern me. I was talking to Ryan Silverfield,
his head coach from Memphis, a couple of weeks ago,

(01:06:07):
and the interesting thing about Gibson is he was a
two thirty five pounds slot receiver, Like I've never seen
anything like this. So because of the size, they had
an opening. After Darrell Henderson left is now with the
Rams and they moved into running back and they're onto something.
You know. He had to learn how to play running
back and he was great last year. I mean, remember
they had no off season. He had to talking to Washington.
They didn't want to give over overload him with volume.

(01:06:29):
But he's he could be a breakout player. I'm just
a little bit concerned about this turf bill. I need
to learn about it more about I'll be at the
training cap for a couple of days and I sall see.
But yeah, he's he's really gifted. What a story he's been.
I love Curtis Samuel. I like their off season. I'm
still skeptical about Ryan Fitzpatrick being a starter for seventeen games, However,
skepticism skepticism everywhere. How about Yeah, how about Julio Jones

(01:06:54):
and Tennessee love it? Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I
do talking to the Titans that they they see is
an upgrade over Corey Davis, who did have a breakout
season last year, but they were not going to pay
twelve en a million. Look, they they they've been on
this thing. They were the team that showed the most
interest really from day one. Um they just they're John Robinson.
The GM is super aggressive visa. He's a play to

(01:07:14):
win now guy, he's been like that and this is
a play to win situation. They won division last year,
three playoffs, three out of the last four years. You know,
the culture going to be good. The Jaguars are going
to be improved. Texans are are not gonna be very good.
They'll probably the NFL's worst teamers on the bottom three
or four, but competitive division and they're trying to get
a leg up. And look you you now have a
j Brown and and and Julio Jones is still the

(01:07:36):
most physical receivers. It's gonna be fascinating to see what
they do. I I like to move. I kind of
thought this would happen. Talking to people close the situation,
there was really no one else. From what I understand,
it was close to what the Titans were able to offer. Though,
I would tell you the Titans, if they're going to
be as good as we all think, that's gonna be
a low second round pick as they're get You can

(01:07:58):
hear them on the Inside the Birds podcast, you can
hear him on Serious X NFL Radio, and you can
hear them right here's our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider
Adam Kaplan. I'm talking to Adam more than my wife
over these last couple of days. Yeah, we'll do it
again tomorrow and I'll ask you more fantasy football questions
as well. How about thanks, Adam. Get him on Twitter

(01:08:18):
at Kaplan NFL. The joke that that I had was
last year I tried to disguise it Bucky in a
holdover fantasy league. I at Miles Sanders on my team,
and obviously Adam is locked in with the Eagles. Every
other week I would ask a Mile Sanders question and
what the Eagles were doing for my own personal benefits.
So I figured, now, instead of just trying to use

(01:08:38):
it for my own benefit, let's let's spread it out
to the masses, because the fantasy football magazines are gonna
be hitting the news shelves and and people are gonna
want to go out and go to the grocery store
pick up the old magazine to get ready for your
fantasy football season, fantasy football, right, there's twos to Bucky

(01:08:58):
that was am, I don't know about it. And then
there's the no but you know whatever, no, no, no, no,
it never it never never stops. Like fantasy football is
such a big thing, like we're always trying to figure
out who's next. But my big question to you will
be how many teams do you manage and operate during
the fall? Me? One? Good, Okay, I'm with that. I

(01:09:23):
am with it. It's too hard for me. Um. I
had to get off the fantasy football thing because it
was too much. I was obsessing over it. It changed
the way that I watch games. Um, I played the league.
I played in the league one time where you could
actually make moves doing again, like it didn't have the
mandatory freeze until Tuesday, so I would see people limp
off and I would go and make moves right away

(01:09:45):
to acquire people and stuff like that. So it was
a bit of a session. I had to put it
down for a minute. But maybe maybe I can make
a return to fantasy. Why why do we get rid
of direct TV? Well, we were on a twenty second
delay and pick up guy as soon as they got hurt,
so that's unfortunately the guy who had cable beat me
to it. That's why he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer.

(01:10:09):
I want to get your thoughts on Julio Jones and
his fit with the Titans. That's after David Gascon gives
us the latest of what's happening. It's going on, David, guys,
I do recommend It's a new year, so it's a
new a new season for you guys. Um want to
invest in two two teams? You know I did try
last year, did not care about one of them? What, yeah, yeah,

(01:10:29):
that was That was just the problem is I actually
did dabble for the first time in twenty over twenty
five years of playing fantasy football, Like, I'll do two
teams and I don't even care about it. I don't
even you know, like I didn't even consider it like
another team. Well, I was gonna say, Dan, since you
know this and I've bragged about this to you in confidence. Um,
I mean one professionally and one at the amateur level.

(01:10:51):
College football. Oh, that's rights, the most whacked out college
football league. That is so awesome because they only take
it from leagues that actually score points. So it's the
kicker is is we use it as an auction league
this past season. So each week you have you have
a certain dollar amount, you have a thousand dollars of

(01:11:12):
of fake money, and each player is graded on a
certain dollar amount and you can pick as many guys
from any conference for your roster. But if obviously a
total is higher than a thousand, then you can't keep
those players. Um. So last season I I loaded up,
I went Jalen Waddle, DeVante Smith, Mac Jones, and then

(01:11:33):
I would add like Coastal Carolina's defense are a bunch
of other teams that were loading up on those specialties.
But yeah, we would use the MAC, the Mountain West Conference,
the SEC, the Big Twelve, and Independence as a college
football fantasy league. It was pretty awesome. Yeah it is.
It's uh a little psycho, but yeah, I mean because

(01:11:55):
you think about it, because the leagues that we're in,
you're usually getting point tolls between what a hundred and
maybe like a hundred sixty. Um, you know those leagues
in college fantasy, they go over two hundred. Like there's
there's one lead that was in two years ago. They
had Rashot Penny that had a punt return a kickoff
return and then two hundred yards rushing in a home game,
and serially, you're winning games just on rashot penny alone.

(01:12:17):
So it's pretty wild. Speaking of that guy's Major League
Baseball today, White Sox two over the Tigers. Brian Goodwin's
driven in four so far. He's two for three in
that contest. Pirates and Brewers. Milwaukee now has a seven
four lead. They were down four two Mets three. Padres
one for Nano Tatis Jr. Hit a home running this contest.

(01:12:40):
Blue Jay six one over the Red Sox right now,
it's in the top of the fifth inning. NBA Clippers
and Jazz obviously tonight. National Hockey League will continue tomorrow.
UH college baseball scene today Notre Dame in Mississippi State
or Super Regional Mississippi State one game one. Vanderbilt beat
East Carolina. They're heading back to Omaha. I guess the

(01:13:02):
one of the team that Bucky is invested in. Dan.
I don't know if you you know this or have
inquired about it, but he's the head coach of a
certain local team here. Oh yeah, no, I am well aware.
I was actually going to propose you should sell Lway
throwback jerseys at game. I think that, I know, I
think it would raise some money for the team, like

(01:13:24):
if you had a Granada Hills Elway jersey like a throwback.
Do you not know that his entire roster hates me? Really? Yeah?
I condemned his football program last year, broadcast on that
masted he crusted the gashouse. We pointed the press box

(01:13:45):
and hoping that he's there one day after games. I
can tell your funny story about the lay thing you
talk about the jersey right. So in my naive day, um,
when we got uniforms the first year, we get all
the numbers or whatever, and I was like, hey, no, no, no,
a no numbers seven, like leading number seven out of there.
We don't want to don't want to do that, like hey,
it's a sacred number whatever. Only to find out he

(01:14:06):
didn't wear seven in high school. Alre eleven, So your
heart was in the right place. Were removed a number
that was his number? Oh man, that's great kid that
were number eleven. Had no idea of the responsibilities and

(01:14:30):
the normation that was out his shoulders. Any any chance
of getting our sack sacks again where we gave you
ideas instead of turnover chain. If you get the sack,
they get to either play a saxophone or jump into
a knapsack or like a sleeping bag. I think that's

(01:14:50):
better than turnover chain. Oh my gosh, yeah, no, no gimmicks.
All right, you've got a piece of NFL dot Com
ranking the top five pass catching duos in the National
Football League. Now, I wouldn't have blamed you if you
add Julio Jones and Calvin Ridley on that list when
he was a member of the Lot of Falcons meaning
Alio Jones. But he's no longer a member of the Falcons.

(01:15:13):
He's now a member of the Tennessee Titans. So with
him and A. J. Brown, do they crack your top five?
Of course they cracked my top five. I got them second.
I have them right behind Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey
because look his past catching duos. So with the semantics,
it allows me to put tight ends in there. But
I love this combination that they have with A. J.

(01:15:34):
Brown and Julio Jones, big physical, like heavyweights, Like just
think about this this offense. You have two guys that
a two pounds at wide receiver in Jones and A J.
Brown respectively. You now have a two fifty pound tailback
and Derrick Henry. You got this big, beefy offensive line.
I mean, they're just going to lean on you if

(01:15:54):
you have one of these small, fast defenses that you've
really gone with the little guys because you wanted to
be able to get up to the quarter act and
really pursue him. Man, good luck, good luck trying to
find your way with those big guys on the pameter.
I love this thing, and Kulia Jones alluded to him.
We talked about a picture poison offense. They just can
come at you in so many different ways with the

(01:16:15):
run game. In the past game Chiefs one, Titans two,
than the Seahawks with DK Metcalfine, Tyler Lockett, Bucketeers four.
That isn't that I missprint? Let me look, I guess
it is for Minnesota Vikings at five with Justin Jefferson
and Adam Finland. I don't want that at five. I'm
just you know, Evans and Godwin are great receivers, but

(01:16:37):
now with Brady you even admitted it was more of
a defensive lated you know, or led team. You know,
there were games where Mike Evans had two catches for
two yards and they were having to be touchdowns, so
they look it was tough. But then my biggest point
would be who replaced him? Who do I put in
their spot? Like Cooper Cup and Robert Woods aren't quite

(01:17:00):
not no star power for me, Mike Williams. They're fine,
but it's more Keenan Allen than Mike Williams, right sure,
And then the old When I get quiz on the
ou of Cowboys, I'm Marii Cooper, but I'm like, who's
the second guys It Michael, it's Ceedee Lamb, you and I.
It's Ceedee Lamb every next scene. So I don't know.

(01:17:21):
It's tough, that's all right, But but I don't believe
in ties. So when it's five, there's not five, A,
B and C, no no ties and no honorable mentioned list. Uh.
I like that. I hate that. Here's my top twenty,
just missed the list. I'm almost there. I want I
want all of it. I want all the smoke. I
want all the people to be upset that. I love

(01:17:42):
your favorite combination outring. Bring that smoke to Bucky Brooks
on Twitter at Bucky Brooks. You can find me on
Twitter Dan Buyer At Dan Buyer on Fox you can
bring the smoke for Bucky's NBA pix and who's gonna
win the title? Yes, Brooks and Dot is next here
on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Dan Buyer,

(01:18:05):
He's Bucky Brooks. NBA Playoffs tonight. Jazz and Clippers coming
up in under two hours in their Game three. And
what better time to dust off the old boom box
and strike up the band as when Bucky and I
get together, we they like to play a game of
Brooks and Done. Are you ready, Bucky? I am absolutely ready.

(01:18:28):
I look forward to it. Bucky knows how this he's played.
If you don't, if you're just hearing it for the
first time, Yeah, you got Brooks and Done in the background.
But Bucky's gonna tell you if this team is done
or not. We're talking about the NBA playoffs. There are
eight teams left, maybe seven, but there are eight teams
technically still alive to win the NBA title. Bucky's gonna

(01:18:50):
tell us if they have a legitimate chance to win
or if they are done. Okay, let's start with what
you're inspired. Last night, Sons and Nuggets. Sons go into
Denver and go up three oh with the wind. Do
the Suns have a legitimate chance winning the NBA title? Oh? Absolutely,
There in the mix. They had a team to be
coming out of the West. What about the Denver Nuggets

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who are down oh three, Oh, it's done, it's done deal.
That is the that is the case. What about the
team that's down to O two that has at home tonight,
the Clippers. Do they still have a chance to win
the NBA title? Down two to the jazz I? Don't know.
I think the big thing for Paul George and Kawaie
Leonard is where do they want a vacation? Do they
want to do it on the Pacific side or the

(01:19:32):
Atlantic side? Because they are done, done done, oh done?
And did you hear there's a fifth Ocean now you
hear about that? Well, no, that's where we're gonna talk
about that later. What about the Utah Jazz who are
up to Oh you just said you think that the
Suns could come out of the West, But what about
the jazz I? Like the jazz I? Like Spidy Mitchell,
but man, he's I won't say he's a one man show,
but he is a big deal. Um. I think they

(01:19:54):
have a mix. I think that mix. I give them
and the Sons, all right? All right? The Nets up
to one in the Milwaukee Bucks. What about the Brooklyn Nets.
Oh they're good to go, like Pensildman. Sure Bucks got
back into the series with the game three win to
the Bucks still have a chance? Or are they done?
They are done? Done done? Everything went their way and

(01:20:16):
a steal was a struggle for them to win. They're done.
Everybody else here booing? I hear booing on I don't know.
Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's Jannae. Maybe y'all have booing.
Jhanna's taking those deep shots. Oh that is true. What
about the seventies Sixers who went up to one with
a win in Atlanta yesterday. I like the Sixers. I
like the Sixes in the mix. They they're they're they're

(01:20:37):
they're like his Philly and Philly in Brooklyn. All right.
And finally the Atlanta Hawks who dropped that game to
Philadelphia led by Trey Young. The Sixers take back home
court the Hawks in it? Or are they done? This
pains me because Nami Millers from my hometown used to
get harricut and sat barbershop he's a legend in the area.

(01:20:58):
He'll get a chance to go back to the area
real soon. By the beginning of next week, he'll be back.
He'll be back, He'll be back. And Roley checking out
White's barbershop. All right, and just so we can pour
that salt into the wounds. What about the Lakers? Where
do you have the Lakers? Where? Where are the Lakers
right now? When it comes to NBA champions are they getting?
Where are they done? They're done, They're done, They're done

(01:21:20):
for the foreseeable future. All done. All right, there, it
is Brooks and done. Another episode here on Fox Sports Radio,
this time in NBA version. Wow, alright, we have that
time perfectly out now with that, with that song, I realized,
I'm gonna give you about eight or ten answers, and
then we can find out, by the way, you have

(01:21:41):
four in and four out the four in Jazz Sons
sixers and it still just just like that ranking of
top wide receiver duos. Get Bucky on Twitter at Bucky Brooks.
You can find me Dan Buyer on Twitter at Dan
Buyer on Fox. The college football playoffs expanding to twelve,
I'll tell you what changes in college football coming up next.

(01:22:05):
Rolling along on a Saturday. Get Bucky on Twitter at
Buckey Brooks. You can find me on Twitter at Dan Buyer.
On Fox, You're Dave's a NBA Action Jazz Clippers tonight
in Game three. I'm very intrigued, and we'll we'll dive
into this game in about thirty minutes or so just
because of what is at stake and what the Clippers

(01:22:27):
past has been, and we'll see if they if they're
able to take advantage of it, or if it will
come back to haunt them. That coming up at the
bottom of the hour, But we start with the news
from college football that is still I think taking a
while to digest. I admit immediately when I heard twelve
schools being the the number of teams being allowed in

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the college football Playoff, I didn't like it. My initial
reaction was mostly negative. There are some things that I
don't mind about it. There are a few things that
I think that are good about it, So I've I've
warmed a little on it. But in this day and
age where warming doesn't do you anything, you don't want
to sit in the fence. I guess overall, I'm not

(01:23:08):
a huge fan but I may just have to come
to grips with what we've got. I Bucky just didn't
understand on why you just jumped to twelve so quickly.
It took so long to just go from two to four,
and it took you long enough to just get the
two best teams on the field, let alone to have
an actual playoff, But now to go from four to twelve,

(01:23:29):
to me, it was just such a drastic jump that
I don't think that you can put uh, you can
put that back in the box. I think now if
you're going anywhere after twelve, it would be sixteen instead
of just maybe going to six or eight and then
later on moving to twelve. I think that was a
mistake by the College Football Playoff Committee. Uh yeah, I
disagree because I actually liked because I've always felt like

(01:23:52):
they should make it closer to the lower level playoffs.
The lower level playoffsually have sixteen teams. Um, you don't
have the buy, but that's how it's always been done.
In its work. We've seen teams like North Dakota State
continue to be a dynasty and win multiple titles in
that format. I thought that format would have worked. Twelve
is kind of right in the sweet spot. I felt
like six or eight you still don't have the discussion

(01:24:14):
which team should be in, which team should be out
those things. I think twelve there really no excuses. Um,
you should be able to get the twelve best teams,
You should be able to get the best teams in
the conversation, in the tournament, and then however, whatever happens
in the tournament happens. But I think twelve gives us
just enough to be happy with everything, and it rewards

(01:24:35):
the teams at the top that the play great. It
rewards and by giving them about week the first round.
But maybe maybe that's what the this UH committee recommendation
should have looked at it. When you mentioned the FCS,
and you see the dominance that North Dakota State has
had over the past decade, you know that that tells
me that maybe it's not as different from the FBS.

(01:24:58):
Was the sixteenth best team in the FCS really have
a legitimate shot at going and winning a national championship.
Probably not. And and that's where I think, like, if
even if the twelfth best school, I I give an
option and and and I do think that there has
to be there has to be a path, like whether
you like the college the n c Double A Tournament

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or not. With the automatic bids when it comes to basketball,
there is still a path for every school. And that
was one of the college football's biggest bug a booze
was you could do everything right and it's still not
good enough. I think if they could figure out a
path for those schools, and maybe it wouldn't always work
out every year, but to at least have some sort
of path to get there, I think would have been

(01:25:41):
sufficient enough. But instead now we just opened up about,
you know, five different paths for teams that may just
not be as worthy. Um. Look, I still I still
think twelve works because, um the biggest thing that we've
heard from AFAR has been a the group of fives
don't have a chance. There's guarantees that we should get one,

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maybe multiple group of five teams in the conversation in
the tournament, and then they have an opportunity to kind
of prove their worth and proven they're worthy enough to
um make their move. And so I think it it
opens up the field. I think it makes the regular
seam regular season more compelling because what did it boil
down to before? I mean, we're talking about the same
four to six teams each and every year. When that

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opens up the conversation, we now can have a broader discussion.
We now can give teams that wouldn't normally be in
the national championship hunt. Uh, we can give them a
little attention. So you talked about the Appalachian States of
the world, the Coast to Carolina's of the world, um,
Cincinnati and some of those other teams that we normally
would never really view them as legitimate contenders. They at

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least can be in the conversation. They can get in
the tournament, they can have taken swing, they can take
a swing. And so you talk about one to have
a legitimate David Ing alive um matchup, Well, maybe we
can have that now. This is and and I've I've
laid out three things that I think will happen now
because what is likely to be expansion in the college
football playoff, and we don't necessarily know exactly when it

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is going to expand to twelve schools will find that
out once uh, once it is officially passed, but it
will come in the in the not so distant future,
whether it be in the next two to five years.
I think we will. We will see that that change
to twelve teams. I would say probably in two years.
I don't know. You can put it off five more
years and continue it this way, but the current agreement

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I believe goes through. Uh So that's what would make
that point being is this. I think that there are
three things that you need to look out for when
and if and when this takes change, And I think
there are a big deal because the argument that I've heard,
and this is this is number one, is that more
regular season games will matter. You're talking about now teams

(01:27:51):
fighting for that twelve spot or that eleven or to
get one of those final at large bids of the
of the fifth and six schools, And well, I say
that's true. Through the top tier games then won't matter.
So you and I talked a bit about this earlier.
But the Alabama LSU tilt to decide usually the winner
of the SEC West every year likely won't have the

(01:28:14):
same amount of and carry that same amount of passion.
Now with this format, and maybe an Ole, miss Texas,
A and M game to battle for that final at
large spot will have more of that gusto. You're not
going to have that with an Alabama LSU game when
Alabama likely would already be in the playoff. And I
know LS you had it down your last year, but

(01:28:36):
let's just say they're going to be in contention, those
teams could already likely have their spots locked up into
the playoffs. So I think that while, yeah, you say
that they're gonna be more meaningful games in the regular season,
yeah that that that's true, that those bottom teams are,
but even for the top teams, the games aren't gonna
matter anymore. And and that's what I think is going
to be a big missing thing in college football. So

(01:28:58):
so I'm putting that at number one, and I'll even
add this Bucky to that. I don't know why a
school would want to now schedule a marquee nonconference game.
I don't know why you would want, you know, Alabama
taking on a USC or all in Ohio State facing
an Oregon. I don't know why you would do that

(01:29:19):
if you were a top school, knowing that your likely
path is just to do well in your conference and
and maybe win your conference. All playing that other game
does is to me gives you another opportunity to put
a loss on your resume. And not get one of
those at large bids. No, actually I see it. I
see it differently. See, well, you're wrong, I think. I

(01:29:39):
think what you want to do is you want to
put one of those tougher games on your schedule early
because it gives you time to make up for it.
And if we think about the teams, because we know
it's gonna be the blind resume thing at the end
of the year. So if you've taken on your Alabama,
you've taken on sc or you've taken on another powerhouse,
and you've slipped in your conference. Well, if get how

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at the right time, you still have that that that
resume building, you still have that on your watch, and
if you lose to one of those teams, you still
have your ability to win your conference. I think taken
on a big time team it opens up your path
as opposed to being very conservative and throwing all your
eggs into oh, I'm gonna win the conference championship basket.

(01:30:20):
All right, you have your thoughts. I have mine. I
just wouldn't want I'd be like, all right, I'd rather
just run my conference, just gonna be. You can be scared,
and then if you get tripped up then you're gonna
complain because you went not in one of the conference
and you lost one game, and you don't get it
because you didn't play anybody played all directional schools of September.
Alabama has done that for a lifetime, and they play these,
and I'm using air quote neutral site games where they

(01:30:44):
are only neutral site games are in places where their
fans can drive to. Alabama is still site. Yeah, when
seventy thousand Crimson Tide fans are there, I mean, like,
come on, let's let's be real. They've been there there,
you know November Cupcake. I don't have as much of
a problem with as opposed to as opposed to all

(01:31:06):
of their neutral site games as we use air quotes.
Sports Hunch tweeted us earlier in this show, laying out
a scenario saying, if you're a top se team SEC
team maybe in the you know, around the number eight
range in the SEC East, and you lose a conference
championship game and now all of a sudden, you're out

(01:31:29):
of it. We're a team that doesn't lose an SEC
championship game, like maybe that l s U team that
I'm talking about, because they didn't get into the game
has an advantage for of of being because they didn't
have that extra loss to a top seeded Alabama team.
That's something that's gonna play out, I believe, or it
could lead to number two. The thing that I think

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you're going to see you touched on this earlier. I
think you're gonna see a bunch of SEC teams get
those at large bids. And I don't think that's any surprise.
But the argument that we always get in college football,
and it drives for me nuts, maybe because I'm not
an SEC guy, is but who do you think would
win if they played? And usually with the persona and
the narrative that is with the SEC, you're likely going

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to think that the SEC team, even in eight and
three Florida would go and beat the Penn State, or
they would go and beat in Oregon, or they would
go beat in Iowa State. And I don't think that's true.
But I think because of the at large bids and
how you perceive schools, I think the SEC is going
to dominate those at large bids. Well, I mean, I
think the SEC will probably get three teams in right.

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I think I think that's what we'll see. They always
have two teams in, but I think it'd be it'll
fluctuated between two to three teams. But let's be honest.
The conference has been the best conference. I mean, I
know we can say has been tilted because of Alabama,
but I mean, what are the teams can rival it?
Like we have Clemson, we have Ohio State, we have
Oklahoma and Alabama. Those have been the teams that have

(01:32:55):
consistently shown up. Notre Dame is shown up too. There
haven't been any other teams that have really played at
a consistently high level to be there. And so we'll
see l s U has been in the mix. They
won a national title. Uh, Florida has been in those games,
but they haven't necessarily be impressive. So I would think
that you will probably see the SEC West and the
SEC East champions in the mix, unless it's just a

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weird thing where the team that wins the East kind
of somehow finds a path that they win but they're
eight andree team, Well, this is interesting. In number one,
you and I know that it shouldn't Past history in
college sports should not dictate what goes on in those seasons.
You can't say that, well, a Georgia team made it

(01:33:40):
to the national championship three years ago, so they should
be considered a better team than a Penn State or
an or Again that maybe on the outside looking in,
like you can't say that, but that's what we what
what is being told to us or what's being you know,
pushed on us? And your point about three is not
far off. And I would say this, if the if

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the season was used in this format that we're going to,
you would have had four SEC schools, which four teams
would have been? You would have had Alabama being the
conference champ. You then would have had Texas, A and M,
Florida and Georgia all make the twelve. So which which
one of those teams? Don't you like? Well, I'm just

(01:34:22):
I'm just saying that Florida is a three lost team.
Like we already know enough about that. Okay, so we throw,
So we throw Florida. Who would we have replaced Florida with?
What team would have replaced him? Um, let's just how
about your alma mater of North Carolina. Okay, you know
what's going on? Good to win? They played Texas and
M pretty well without their people. Okay, all right, so

(01:34:43):
I get that, But and now you're and you're talking
to a guy who doesn't think that there should be
twelve teams. So like, I'm not even worried about replacing teams.
I'm just talking about teams that aren't even worthy of
of of being there. Like there should be enough done
in the SEC season for us to know who are
the top two teams in the league. But in this
scenario I would have played out, we would have had

(01:35:05):
four SEC teams, which, by the way, will not be
fair to Alabama, who won the freaking league. So here's
the thing. Okay, so here's the alternative. Though the alternative
will be, Okay, we have these twelve teams that are
in we see a fully stocked Florida and North Carolina
and all those things. The alternative is to go watch
a bowl game when those teams don't have any of

(01:35:25):
the players because they've all opted out. And so like
that's in the conversation. That's why it's really been expanded
because once those teams are eliminated from the playoffs, the
players start jumping ship. They're not gonna play because they're like,
what am I playing for? I'm not playing for national championship.
Whereas with the expanded playoff field, you have a better

(01:35:46):
chance of convincing your star player to hang with it
because now we have a chance. That has to factor
into it because the bowl games we're not watchable this
year because there's no one playing like it's it's a
spring game. Is Cincinnati George a spring game? Because the
Georgia top players aren't playing. Cincinnati's players are playing, but
it's different, So we have to incentivize the players to

(01:36:08):
continue to play. You know, bowl games now to me
are about the next year, and I and I and
I don't think that you are you watching it because
the next year? Are you really excited to see the
screen ball game? But that's that's what it's, that's what
it's come to. I mean, you know, Christian McCaffrey sitting
out of game or letter that sitting out those I mean,
we want to see we want to see the stars player,

(01:36:28):
but do we really care. Here's the other here's the
other scenario that I lay out, and I know we
got to take a time out because there's there's another
point of this college football playoff that I think has
got huge ramifications. But let's just say you're a Georgia team,
this is where I think it's difficult. Let's just say
it's one of those years where the SEC schedule has

(01:36:49):
Alabama coming to Athens. Guess what dogs win? George has
got Alabama in their rear view mirror. Oh but wait,
Alabama runs the table in the SEC West. And guess
who you're meeting in that SEC championship game? Georgia Alabama
again Part two? Guess what Georgia wins? But Alabama's only
lost twice this season. Okay, there's no way that you

(01:37:13):
would say that a Coastal Carolina school is better than Alabama.
Alabama's only got two losses, So let's put them in
the field of twelve. You're a national championship game Georgia
Alabama for the third time. Like, how is that fair
to Georgia to have to beat an Alabama team at
three times in a season to win a national championship. Look,

(01:37:34):
that's the way to cookie crumbles you want to be Like,
I mean, twelve schools like Alabama would have been eliminated
if you only had six have to face. You have
to face the boogeman. So if you don't want to
play them, you have to knock them out and you
can either knock them out early or you gotta knock
him out late. And so if I'm Georgia in that scenario,

(01:37:56):
if you beat him twice, Alabama probably doesn't make it
into the thing. They don't. You beat him twice, you
beat him into regular season, then you beat him in
the SEC championship game. Odds are is bye bye Alabama.
But it's not a given by the way I knew.
I made a point when you said that that's how
the cookie crumbles, because I've used a million times. Have
you said a million times? Beans? That's the way it is.

(01:38:20):
Figure it out. Like you can't skate to the title,
you gotta figure it out. You gotta figure out who
you're gonna play. You can't be the Clippers. Oh, we
don't want to play the last couple of games of
the season, so we can get this matchup, and then
we gotta go seven games against the Mavericks. No, you
lot of in face, so you have to face. You
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(01:38:41):
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College Football's Playoff expanding the twelve teams and Bucky and
I breaking down. I I had some changes that I

(01:39:22):
think that are that are going to take place, and
I think that there's one big one out there that
I think will will actually will actually happen that we
never thought that it would happen. Are you ready for this?
I'm ready. I think Notre Dame joins the a c
C full time. Yeah better because under this format, when

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a conference champion would get a first round by so
even an undefeated Notre Dame team would not get one
of the top four seeds. When you get it by
they would get the fifth seed would be the best
that they could do, which then yea, they get to
play a home game, but it means that you'd also
have to play in extra game. And I think that
the what Notre Dame did last year in just playing

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in the a c C during the pandemic and for
them being able to run the table in the regular
season like they did, didn't matter that Clemson ed you know,
didn't have Trevor Lawrence in that game in South Bend.
They ended up playing in the a CEC Championship game,
lost to Clemson and still made the College football Playoffs
like there was. To me, that tells me all Notre

(01:40:27):
Dame needs to know on what what type of advantage
you get by joining the league? And now you join
a league where you would be what second best school
program in the league. Yeah, you're always You're already you're
already in position to vide for the title because you
and Clemson are the top dog. Yeah yeah, So to me,
I think because of this, I think Notre Dame ends

(01:40:50):
up joining the a c C on a on a
full time basis. I mean they might have tried to
pressure him into getting into a League. We've talked about
it for a long time. They've had independent status for
a long time. But this, look, this, this is great
because you're right, they won't have an opportunity to be
one of the top four, so that means they lose
out on Dubai. They have to then kind of grind
their way through it. And if you're Notre Dame and
you do have one of those special years where you

(01:41:11):
are a number one team and you're undefeated in those things, man,
you would hate to lose that on on the bye week,
the bye opportunity. Yeah, I mean, it would just be
you know, there's the note. Obviously, the Notre Dame brand
is is it's it is bigger than any in college football.
I mean it is when any network gets an opportunity

(01:41:32):
to broadcast the Notre Dame road game, like that game
is being put in the in a prime spot, even
CBS a couple of years ago for people that may
not know this, In the CBS SEC deal that's gonna
expire the next year or so, they have a provision
where you can designate what's going to be an eight
o'clock Eastern time kick And l s U Alabama was

(01:41:56):
always that that game. But the one year that Notre
Dame and George just played in Athens, the SEC actually
utilized that time to put the Notre Dame game in
the in the SEC times eight o'clock time slot. Alabama
and LS you had to play there there, Joe Burrow
goes to Tuscaloosa and wins game in a three thirty
Eastern time kick because CBS used that window on the

(01:42:18):
Notre Dame Georgia game. Now, there's could have been other reasons,
but that was another one to show like, look at
how powerful Notre Dame is, but to see the success
that they had last year. And yeah, I mean if
if Notre Dame runs the table, they are going to
be one of those top four teams. And for them
to not be in a conference, if this is how
the proposal has passed, would would would have me saying, hey,

(01:42:42):
Notre Dame, alright, it's time. And Notre Dame Bucky has
input in all of this, so they would have to
know what they're getting into before even signing off and
saying it's okay. They would and and Notre Dame plays
in a conference and everything else but football. Their basketball
team is in a C C they might as well
go ahead and join the A C, C and B
in the mix. Yeah, and they play five They played
five a CEC opponents a year anyway as part of
the deal. Yeah, and there's some some good ball in

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North Carolina goes up there and plays. They'll continue to
play some of those teams. They have a budding rivalry
with Clemson that is intriguing. I think the way they've
set them up. Uh, last year Notre Dame was in Yeah,
Notre Dame was in the opposite division of Clemson. So
it always gives you an opportunity to have a Notre
Dame Clemson a CEC championship game, which is compelling. Notre
Dame is in the same division with North Carolina. North

(01:43:27):
Carolina is on the rise, so now you have a
natural um I guess, a marquee game to play in
the regular season when North Carolina takes on Notre Dame.
We saw that last year played out on Big TV.
So there are a lot of things. And I know
with Notre Dame, though, you you your leary of losing
some of the traditional matchups. As you've talked about, Notre
Dame plays s C s C. That's always a big game.

(01:43:50):
We've seen times where Stanford has been a big game.
Notre Dame and Michigan when they have elected to play
those things are big. I think you still can have
some of those things. Um, it's different. But if you
Notre Dame, you don't play cupcakes anyway. You play art.
I mean, you play army, you play teams. There's a
way around it if you want to do it. I
think I think it would be a good thing for them.
I think it would be good for the college football playoff.

(01:44:12):
And if they don't go about it, then I certainly
won't shed any tears because you would like to not
to be a part of the that so you don't
get the spoils of you're not a champion. Nobody would
be shedding tears for Notre Dame. Nobody does anyway, even
when they get the raw end of the deal. Nobody's like, man,
I feel bad when is Notre Dame got the raw

(01:44:34):
fair point, fair point. I was saying, maybe if there
was a scenario where they got the raw end. But
I think your point is actually more apropos I am
curious about this. This would actually been more of a
facilities thing. Remember when Brett fav got knocked out playing
for the Minnesota Vikings, kind of end of his ended
his career at the concussion. Do you remember where he

(01:44:56):
suffered that injury, because I know what, I know the answer,
but I don't. So they remember the the metro almost
torn down, so they were building US Bank stadiums, So
they were playing at the home in the Minnesota Golden Gophers. Now,
that field the way that it was it was built,
there was there was not heating coils put under the field.
And it's the one thing that I wonder with some

(01:45:19):
of these more northern schools. If you're gonna play a
quarterfinal game, you know in December, what you would have
to do maybe facility wise, you know, maybe you know
a game in Columbus, or a game in Happy Valley
or you know, who knows what. You know what you
could get at Pullman, Washington. We know how cold that
it could get. However, if you get into those, you

(01:45:39):
know there are sometimes December days that are you know,
in the thirties and twenties, the late November early December,
like there is a difference. And I just wonder if
there would be any if any of the schools would
have to make any adjustments to a playing service, although
even if they didn't, I can't wait to see an
SEC team coming up North to play a team in
cold weather. No, I think I think that's I mean,

(01:46:00):
that's a huge advantage. And I would say this this
is veers off topic. I believe that the Minnesota Vikings
and they should they should never be adult team because
you give away your your advantage. And so I think
if you're a team that has an outdoor stadium that
is favorable for you, you absolutely especially when those cod
were the teams you want, you want to be able

(01:46:20):
to host the game. And I mean, like, yes, agreed.
The point. The point that I made though was the
field was frozen and so when five hits his head
on the ground, it's like hitting on an ice block.
Like that was that was the only issue. Like even
like you play games in Lambeau, like the turf is
the turf is warm, it's yellow, but it's you know,
I mean okay, like like let me, let me, let

(01:46:41):
me just spill this. This this this myth about the
turf being warm just because their coils up under the
turf turf make the turf isn't warm. It's just it's
just not frozen bed. There's a reason why everyone. I'll

(01:47:08):
tell you, what would you rather fall on? Hardwood floors
or carpet? Okay, I'm just saying you're gonna You're gonna
fall on carpet because maybe it'll give you out just
a little bit more cushioning. That's all. That's all that
I'm saying. Uh yeah, not like man, this grass is
nice and hot. Let me let me keep this. I
just think it wouldn't be it wouldn't be as dangerous
to the schools. I that was a bad spot by me.

(01:47:31):
That was warmer or maybe would be the uh. But
it was true, like the only player you didn't play
games into the December. Like the latest that you would
play a game would be late November, so you wouldn't,
you know, a home game and then your regular season ends.
And but they, yeah, it wasn't It wasn't the case.
That's changed now though, I believe that is that has changed.

(01:47:54):
That's just one of the things that you're gonna get
with the college football playoff. But we will see Notre
Dame in the a c C. I believe once this
thing passes, all right, he's Bucky Brooks fight about Twitter
at Bucky Brooks. You can find me on Twitter at
Dan Buyer and that is with an e R at
the end. Coming up next are the Clippers in a
spot that they relish. We'll talk about it after David

(01:48:14):
Gascont gives us the latest of what's happening. It's going on,
da guys, you're talking a lot of college football. I
need to know, at least into the crystal ball of
Bucky Brooks. Will Javonte Williams be good next season? Mm hmmm,
I don't know. It depends on what sweet nothings I
whisper in his ear, based upon what I get from
Gascon and all the abuse staff stuff at that. I

(01:48:37):
guess it depends on what kind of love him. I
mean I love him. I think the do Broncos have
a chance. The quarterback situation is a situation. They just
don't need to turn the ball over. Defense is good enough,
the running game has improved on the Mike Munchak, he's
a dude. I mean, Jamante Williams is a dude. And
then you still got Melvin Gordon, who's m No you

(01:48:59):
are you when? I guess because Dan was mentioning fantasy
football talk. Um a little while ago with magazines and newspapers. Um, Dan,
do you have an over under on when Bucky will
begin his Sam hal for Heisman talk? The campaign will
start soon. I know you know. Look, I won't campaigny,
but I will say. My podcast partner Danny Jeremiah made

(01:49:21):
a loose comparison between Sam Howell and Baker Mayfield. Oh
take it, take it as you wish, Take it as
you Oh my, well, it was great last year obviously
with Williams and Michael Carter in the backfield. So yeah,
it'd be different. He's lost some weapons, but he's dounded
Bacon Mayfield reference though, Oh my, guys, since we're their
college ranks today, Vanderbilt in college baseball, moving on to Omaha,

(01:49:45):
the East Carolina Mississippi State nine eight winners over Notre
Dame l s U and number two Tennessee underway right
now and Tigers leading one to nothing and that one
arizon An Old miss later on tonight. N See State
ups at Arkansas six to five. Major League Baseball Yankees
and Phillis now deadlocked at seven apiece. Yankees did come back.
They were down seven to four. Angels have also come back.

(01:50:06):
They were down on the Diamondbacks. They now lead eight
to seven. White Sox smashing the Tigers fifteen to two.
Brewer seven four of the Pirates. Earlier today, the Metzer
trump and they beat the San Diego Padres for one.
Marcus Stroman picked up the w He's he's got six
and four record, but a two thirty three e r
A in the season. Blue Jays beat the Red Sox
in Boston seven two was the fun on. Finally, we're

(01:50:29):
about an hour away from opening tip off in Los
Angeles Clippers and the Jazz. It's the only game in
the NBA tonight. I kindly not playing in this ball game.
Steps for Game four is in doubt. Same thing doing
the Eastern Conference side of things with Danny Green Philadelphia
seventies sixers. He's listed as questionable for Monday night against
the A t L guys. By Too Da, Did I
tell you about my new podcast? What's when? He got? Yeah,

(01:50:50):
it's it's about I love the mazzarella sticks. So I'm
like going around the different restaurants and stuff and like
trying their mazarella stakes. It's called to move the sticks.
That's what it's called Yeah, it's deliciously tells you about
what where you can get the best mazzarella snicks when
you are going out, and about dining. Now that we
can start to dining, you should have a new podcast
that was something like running on twenty five hours. Since

(01:51:12):
I know your sleep schedule is absolutely obliterated right now
with the uh addition to the roster. Yeah, absolutely, Bucky.
You didn't know this because you don't follow me on Twitter,
but me and my wife had a baby boy. You
do you do know this? Look, I know all things
just know by you. I'm I'm just kidding, But yeah,

(01:51:33):
it has been here's the good thing. He is now
to the point, uh where he can sleep four hours straight.
So that's that's a win. That's a that's a real
big win. And if we time it perfectly, I can
feed him and change him at midnight, he wakes up
at four and then we're good to go in the morning.
That's the that's kind of the plan. Yeah, I mean,

(01:51:56):
that's that's that's a pretty that's a pretty good plan. Yeah.
How you how you swapping off the feeding responsibilities, Like
if you're letting your wife do thefeed at like eight
or nine, and then you do to midnight, and then
she gets to four. She's probably very very happy she
gets seven or eight hours. There were, unfortunately times when
he was on the three hour schedule that I was

(01:52:17):
not waking up and I didn't realize. She would try to.
She would try to, Yeah, you're sleeping through the baby.
The baby's wailing and you're sleeping through it. You don't
you don't hear it? Oh, I go you got up
at she goes, Yeah, she goes. I woke up and
said like, all right, I'll get him, and two seconds

(01:52:38):
later it was so I was, yeah, I was out,
but he's on her side of the bed, so it's
a lot louder. That's why the baston nuts on her
side of the bed, not mine. But yeah, I said
I'll get him, and that was fire. I know, it happens.
It happens. There was a little a bit of guilt,

(01:53:00):
but what counteracted it was I was well arrested, so
that was that was at least that was that was good. No, well,
I've spent a champ in all this. By the way,
I get David Gascon on Twitter at David J. Gascon Alright,
Clippers and Jazz tonight clips down O two. I get
this sense that no one is worried about the Clippers,
that like, this is like the thing about them where

(01:53:22):
we're like, oh, yeah, they're gonna lose them, they're gonna
even up the series, and then they're gonna they're they're
gonna they'll win in Utah in Game five and then
close it out in game six, or they'll blow Game
six and then go to Utah and winning Game seven.
But I don't know if we're taking Utah lightly or
if we just think that this is who the Clippers
team is that we just don't know. But I just

(01:53:43):
don't get the sense that a lot of people are
really worried about the Clippers right now, even with Utah
up too. Oh you mean not worried about the Clippers
coming back or did not worry? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now
that the down oh two, the Clippers being down two,
you think, so you think they can win four out
of the next five. I think I get the sense,
and I think I don't think I'm the only one

(01:54:05):
that thinks that. I Like, I look at them losing
the two at home to Dallas that they did and
then I had to go to Dallas who when the
two is I think we're looking at it as that
was much more of a tougher task than what the
Clippers have ahead of them. And it's not meant to
be disrespectful to the Jazz, who are a much more
complete team and a better team than Dallas. But the

(01:54:27):
Clippers are usually the team that we're talking about. And
I just I don't get a sense of urgency for tonight.
But if it, if they lose tonight, this series is
over with, Like there's no way that they come back
from from an OH three deficit. I just get a
really just unique feel about this that no one's really
worried about the Clippers being down out two to the Jazz.
I would be worried. You're in danger zone, Yeah, I

(01:54:52):
would be worried because this team is, uh, this Ute
team is a much better team than Dallas team. The
Dallas team, I think, if you really look at it,
Dallascene was a one man show with Luka Donte's playing
crazy and then he had a cast of role players
that were hit or miss. Utah is different Utah, Utah's
defense played a year and Rudy Gobert. They have Spidy
Mitchell who can go bonkers whenever. I don't know if

(01:55:14):
there's a guy that can stay in front of him
and keep him from getting to the bucket. And then
the waves of reserves that they bring in that can
shoot Jordan Clarkston being able to come in and hit
big bombs. I mean, they're they're talented. Now, it's it's
it's a different it's a different set of problems. You know,
you have depth when you have two guys up for

(01:55:34):
the sixth Man of the Year A yeah, like I mean,
and they had the winner in Jordan Clarkson. As he mentioned,
Les has been starting because he's been injured, but Ingles
Ingles as a monster too, So I mean you talk
about it's just different. Yeah, they're they're much more balance.
I'm not. I'm not. I I like Utah. I mean,
and I think that what they've done we should take

(01:55:54):
with what they've done. But I also feel that people said, like,
look at the Clippers. They were a possession away from
from forcing an overtime in Game one and doing show
on forty eight hours rest after winning a big game seven,
and then they ended up rallying and taking the lead
in the fourth quarter before giving it away back to
Utah in Game two. I just get such a there,

(01:56:15):
there was such a panic, There was such a nerve
racking feel over the Clippers when they went down two
that you're saying, is this it is this gonna be
They're gonna break up? The Clippers is quite gonna opt
out and then leave and go somewhere else. And we're
on the same, not exact situation, because number one, the
team is different, but also the location of those games,
uh were different. But I just don't get the same

(01:56:38):
panic that that we had with Clippers Nation from the
Dallas series to what is transpiring on what we're doing
entering tonight. To me, it just doesn't doesn't feel as pressing.
And I just kind of think that everybody thinks that
the Clippers are in a spot to just do their
thing when in a couple hours and that thing could
be over if they don't win Game three. Just just

(01:56:59):
more of a unique of a different sort of feel
that I that I feel about this Clipper squad. I mean,
I don't know, you have more faith in them I'm
worried about. I mean, I guess we still call them
playoff pee even though I don't know if you play.
He's really great in the playoffs, but we'll say playoff pee,
Paul George. I don't know, man, I just don't know.
I don't feel great about this team. And to win

(01:57:21):
four out of the next five, that's all task. Man.
They get tonight and then you can even end up
at home and then who knows what happens in game five,
but Clippers and Jazz uh tipping off? Coming up and
leave just after the top of the hour, eight eastern
or eight thirty eastern maybe the official start time. He's
Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. It is Fox Sports Saturday.

(01:57:44):
Get Bucky on Twitter at Bucky Brooks. You can find
me on Twitter at Dan Buyer. On Fox alright, we
find out what everybody's oldest piece of clothing is in
their closet. How good do they work the old grill?
We'll talk about that next year on Fox Sports Saturday.
Last time I check my closet, I still have my
twenty year old sweatshirt. It is Fox Sports Saturday. He's

(01:58:05):
Bucky Brooks. I'm Dan Buyer. You know what I love
most about our how long? Like? What is the if
you're just joining us? We went around and talked about
the law the oldest piece of clothing that you actually
still kind of have in rotation that you wear. And
I mentioned the North Carolina sweatsirt that I had that
I've had for twenty years. And I bring it up
because Bucky's obviously a tarkil a lum. But the best

(01:58:25):
part about it is we were talking about it was
your answer in Don Brown our Technical Producers answers, because
you are so right. Don said that he had like
a state championship shirt from you, mentioned you had Super
Bowl thirty eight from the Patriots Panthers. Like those event
shirts are so difficult to throw away because it's not

(01:58:46):
like you can just go and get a new Nike
sweatshirt like you it's almost it's it's like saving a
part of your life. Like it is so difficult to
throw one of those shirts away. So I totally get
where you guys are coming from. I mean, it's the
it's tough to part ways, even even though like it's
it's a bittersweet memory. You can't get to go and
get those things anywhere. Like if if you just said,

(01:59:08):
like you know what, I would like to get that
swishirt again. No, that there's no coming back, like you
have to earn those things. So, um, it's tough. So
it's just sitting there in the closet, just sitting in
the closet, just and the and the I love it,
the and the the old apparel kind of like it
could be like a Reebok T shirt, Like why did
Reebok make Super Bowl T shirts? You know it's something

(01:59:31):
like that. Yeah, man, remember when Reebok made NFL jerseys
that time, Yes, I did. It wasn't a great time.
A much better place right now, much better place right
now than you happen to do. It wasn't a great time.
Like I mean, if you notice back then, Dan, like
nothing was tapered, everything was big in boxy. Um, you're

(01:59:51):
not not. Not the finest moment, that finest moment in NFL.
Oh man, the Puma made NFL jerseys once there. I
don't remember. Yeah, yeah, I believe I never remember Apex.
I remember some of those other uniforms and and those
things that were they weren't They weren't the greatest. Now now,

(02:00:12):
Nike gives you a lot of the flexibility, although the
designs on some I don't know. Arizona Cardinals need a
new design, like Nike needs to that one. What can
they do? They change the bird? The bird is fierce now, like, yeah,
it is the first bird. I would say that. I
would say less is more in general when it comes
to uniforms. So you talk about the Cardinals, Man, keep

(02:00:34):
it simple, white pants, red jersey, like you don't need
all those extra Yeah you want to wear your black uniforms,
just make it all black, all black, white numbers, rid trim,
white helmet, a go. You don't have to do a lot.
That's why I never understood it. Never necessarily why they
go overboard. So there may not be a worse idea

(02:00:56):
than the Clippers and their black uniforms, Like I can,
I cannot which which black uniform because they got the
L A. C. They also have the one with yeah
the Santas or whatever. Yeah, that's sort of I don't
like that one. And like the one with the Game
of Tron in the logo remember Tron where you have
to Yeah, the arcade game with the lines. I didn't

(02:01:17):
know motorbikes. I didn't know it was popular enough to
make a uniform after I did. I will say the
uniforms that I've liked in the playoffs that have emerged.
I like the Atlanta Hawks MLK Jersey's the black with
the gold trim. Yeah, those are yeah, those are sharp.
When they made they made the court look like that
when they were obliterating the Knicks one night, Like I
was like, that's nice uniform. Yeah, because it's kind of

(02:01:38):
a black or kind of like a gold accent to
it as well. Yeah, jazz did Jazz need to do
away with those orange things that they were wearing over
Like what what like what is that? Like, what what
is the point that's you know what it is? I
don't know what it is. Yeah, well it is because
like you know the red rocks in southern Utah, it's
also a temperature gauge. So it's sixty degrees seventy degrees

(02:02:03):
is yellow seven And I'm making a joke, was like
making it just like I was like, whatever that is, Like,
whoever designed it and they can put it away. I
need I need to Wayne Way to do something about
that as a as a co owner, my minority owner
or whatever. I need him to do something with that,
especially because their note in the purple and the green
and yellow, and I know it's from New Orleans. But

(02:02:24):
it just works well together. It's just so it's like
it's a classic uniform from way back in New Orleans.
They don't need to change it, even as stuff they
were wearing where stocked in him alone with the mountain cap,
the snowcap mountains boom. Yeah, that was That was a
hot mess. Maybe go to the Darren Williams once. You know,
I didn't get the my grilling story, but who cares.

(02:02:45):
It was dumb anyway, Bucky, it's been fun. We'll do
it again.

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