Aaron Torres and Jason Martin talk College Basketball's final weekend, Maxx Crosby to the Ravens trade impact, and Kyler Murray's possible next destination.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
It is eleven pm Eastern time.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
And I'll tell you what, Jay mart You know, first
week of March we got a lot to discuss. World
Baseball Classic is on. We just had a final and okay,
see to Segre gave you the details there the thunder beat,
the Golden State Warriors, and a whole lot of college hoops,
says March is officially underway here, Jason Martin, How you doing, man?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Everything good?

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Pretty good? Yeah, this this week everybody was healthy. That's
a nice change of pace. But other than just being
exhausted from a good from good things, yeah, everything is
pretty good man. F one starting, so I'm excited. I'm
gonna not mention it again. No LAP is literally taking
place as we speak. You.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I texted me pretty late to start talking about the
show last night.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
You were up watching what in Melbourne? At what time?
And how late were you.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Up watching it?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
For?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well? Well, local local qualifying started at eleven my time,
so eleven Central times, so it started at midnight Eastern. Okay,
but you know, obviously it's just like Australian Open, it's
just you know, the other side of the world. But
I wanted to just I wanted to see it live
because I knew this morning was going to be a
little bit busy and distracted. So even super tired, I

(01:33):
stayed up and watched that, uh first qualifying of the season.
And now the race is on and it is in
front of me. I was going to turn it off
and try to watch it later, but I'm at least
going to watch the start here as we do the show.
It is sporting related again, it is it is, It
is what it is, but it is I am super
excited about it. So you know how it is. You

(01:55):
get you get kind of caught up in the mix
of the sports and the hobbies that you love. Then
you end up talking about him for a living, and
then sometimes you have some other ones that you just
kind of watch on the side and enjoy.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
No, I get it.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, I will tell you this sport that I usually
watch and enjoy that I don't know. It's a ton
of national buzz except for this time of the year.
Is of course college basketball. Let's go ahead and start
their final Saturday of the regular season. Technically Sunday is
the final day of the regular season. Interesting game between
Michigan and Michigan State in the Big Ten. By the way,

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as we're coming on, we have, by technicality, our second
automatic bid, really our first, but sort of our second.
Tennessee State first year head coach Nolan Smith. Jmark, do
you re John Shire's teammate at Duke I remember, yeah,
he's the head coach at Tennessee State. First year head coach.

(02:50):
They win the Ohio Valley in year one under Nolan Smith. Now,
technically Long Island actually clinched a bid today because they're
in one of those weird leagues that they allow teams
into the conference tournament that aren't eligible for the NCAA Tournament.
So they're playing they haven't played their conference championship game yet,

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but the team that they're playing isn't eligible for the
NCAA Tournament. So the second bid has officially been clinched.
Nolan Smith, the Tennessee State, I want to say, Jaguars,
maybe Panthers. They're headed to the NCAA Tournament. Jim mar
let me just ask you the Tigers, I knew it
was a big cat. Listen, their logo is blue, and

(03:35):
it makes it a little confusing. You know, it could
be it wasn't a lion because there was no Maine,
so I couldn't tell if it was a jaguar or
a cheetah. But it is the Tennessee State Tigers. Everyone
knows Tennessee is known for the tigers running around in
the wild there. But real quick, kylege hoops, I mean
it's here. We're gonna have a bracket in our hands

(03:57):
a little over a week from now. Are you excite?
Have you been able to watch what are your takes
on what is basically the final day of the regular
season here?

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, I mean I did. I got to watch some
of it. I didn't get to watch everything all day long.
I'm just gonna be honest. Yeah, Like, based on what
I was able to sort of watch as it was
going along, most things were pretty chalky and weren't even
all that close. I don't necessarily expect the Arizona Colorado
was gonna change that. But you know, like Duke was

(04:29):
what like a nineteen point favorite, so I guess they
didn't cover. So if you're one of those gambling types
that might have been more interesting, but after the injury,
you know, Carolina just felt like they were super deflated
even entering that game. But you just you can watch
some of these games and you can look at some
of these teams and you could see who's peaking and

(04:50):
who seems to be playing their best basketball and coming around,
and then you can really kind of distinguish that, Yeah,
there's gonna be some teams from big conferences that are
gonna get into this tournament have absolutely no shot to
do anything because they're just either flawed or they're just
flat out not interesting, like there's not anything dynamic about
what they're doing on the floor. So I mean, maybe
they're gonna catch some people off guard in the conference tournament,

(05:12):
but I think we still have a pretty We're gonna
have a big field of teams that I just am
not gonna know how to parse between. And the biggest
reason is because they're all kind of meh, if that
makes any sense, Like not that they're bad, but that
there's nothing particularly stand out about them. So it's gonna

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come down to, well, this guy's got sighs, So maybe
that's gonna be a good matchup everything's gonna be about
matchups outside of the just elite of the elite.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
I will tell you this as somebody who watches a
little bit closer. You know, if you remember last year,
we had the crazy Chalky bracket. I don't remember every
detail off the top of my head. Obviously we had
four number one seeds at the final four. If I
remember correctly, I'm pretty sure sure that every number one seed,

(06:03):
three of the four number two seeds. The only one
that didn't make it was Saint John's which lost to
which lost to Arkansas. So three of the four two seeds,
I believe all four three seeds and three four seeds
all made it. So basically it was crazy Chalky. The
biggest quote unquote underdog was John Calperiot Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
What I will.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Say I think this year, I do think that top four,
and I think Florida has now officially established itself as
the fourth best team in college basket, not not even
the fourth best team, but they're gonna get the fourth
number one seed barring like a wild, wild wild loss
in the SEC Tournament.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Dan did all he could, though, let me let.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Me say this. You know what's crazy?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So boy, well, couple things, so you know, I know
we are, of course, the both Yukon Show of Record
and the Yukon Women's Basketball Show of Record here at
Fox Sports Radio. People think I'll never say anything negative
about Yukon and Dan Hurley. First of all, Dan Hurley's
behavior completely unacceptable today. I think the Biggie should suspend

(07:09):
him for the Big East Tournament opener. You can't do that.
You can't put your face in another man's face like that.
I'll also say this, jmart so one, that loss was
consequential because I think it did eliminate Yukon from a
shot at that fourth number one seed. And I will
just tell you this is I don't know what the

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conversation is, and it's not a national talking point whatever
Yukon has probably had. I've been watching Yukon basketball for
thirty years. The first year I remember, really like remembering
Yukon basketball was ninety five ninety six. It was Ray
Allen's last year. They got a number one seed. They
lost in sweet sixteen. I actually think this is probably

(07:50):
the most unfulfilling Yukon basketball season that I have ever watched.
You know, I'm not I'm a historian, but not enough
of a historian of every team to know this. I
don't know if there's ever been a twenty seven and
four team in a power conference that has been like
less fun to watch. I'll just try to be quick
on this and I'll throw it back to you. They

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were really good early and they deserve credit for that.
They beat BYU and by he was a full strength.
They won at Kansas, which is crazy. Shockingly, Darren Peterson
did not play in that game. They did beat Florida
that was basically when Florida was starting to figure things out.
But they play in the lousy Big East. The Big
East will be a three bid league unless there's a bid.
Steeler lost to They took two really bad losses, creating

(08:36):
at home and today to Marquette. Marquette, for people who
don't know, improved to twelve and nineteen with the win.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, it's not quite the Marquette team that it was
a handful of years ago.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, and to put a bow on it, there have
been a lot of games that they easily could have
lost that they just won because the other competition is bad.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'll be quick on this, but they had a two.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Point win at Georgetown, a six point win over a
Providence team that's fired their coach, a separate overtime win
over Providence. They did beat Butler by they beat Georgetown
by four in the game in the return game, and
so I bring it up. It's been a weirdly unfulfilling
season for Yukon for people who are trying to figure

(09:20):
out what their bracket looks. Like, I know, there's always
a belief, you know, you don't bet against the two
time champion and a guy who's whatever. This Yukon team
ain't it, And like I said, Dan Hurley, I think,
really I think the league should step in and suspend it.
I don't think Yukon can. I don't know they can,
but I don't think they will. But I think they
should suspend them.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yukon.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
That was a very consequential result. They are not getting
that fourth number one seed, and like I said, I
think three are really wrapped up here Arizona Duke and
Michigan Florida and the driver's seat for the fourth number one.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Do you think that
Hurley's behavior today just indicates it's just been a frustrating
sea or maybe even a frustrating last couple of years
for him after where they were riding and just kind
of it just it has not come quite as easily,
has it, And it just seems like maybe that's just
worn on him as the season goes along, because even

(10:15):
for him, this was way over the line.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
So yes, and so to answer your question, yes, last
year was a disaster, but you could kind of write
it off to injuries and this and that. This year,
So Jmart like, we're getting nerdy yukon now, but if
there's ever time to do it, it's now.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, it's been.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
It's been.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
It's been a weird year because here was the thing,
J Mart is that the team kept winning. Okay, so
they lost to Saint John's, they lost to Arizona early,
which obviously no shame in that loss at all. They
didn't lose until they lost in November, and then they
didn't lose again until February sixth to Saint John's. They
had an eighteen game win streak. But like I said,

(10:57):
I told you the scores. There two wins over a
Providence team, which isn't good that just fire their coach.
Georgetown's terrible, you barely beat them twice. So it's been
this weird year where during that win streak, and I
don't even think he was doing it in a negative way.
I think he was trying to defend his players where
there was a couple times where you know, he kind

(11:17):
of would go to the podium and say, you know,
like he I'm paraphrasing, but basically, Yukon fans were winning,
we're twenty one and one, we're nineteen and one, we're
twenty two and two, like, appreciate this.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
It isn't easy. And then there was one game.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Where the fans didn't really show up and he kind
of called out the fans after the game, and then
they ended up losing literally the next game to Creton
at home, which was until today one of the worst losses.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And so it's been this weird thing where.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I think even he knew, like I can't figure out
why I can't get more out of this team, but
he was trying to defend the team.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And then he had to admit that they weren't quite right.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And then they destroy Royd Saint John's in the second game,
so maybe everything's all right, and then they went right
back to who they were. So yes, to answer your question,
I think he's been very frustrated and I think he
just again last year you could write off to injuries,
you misevaluate a guy, or to this year, the talent
is there, but he just can't quite figure out how

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to get that talent where it needs to be.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
So yeah, well he still knows what he's doing. But yeah,
I mean, I think that's it's got to be frustrating
for somebody that is just used to being able to
maximize potential, and maybe this potential was just lower. Maybe
this ceiling is just a little bit lower than he
even anticipated going into this season. But if you take

(12:45):
a longer view, if you take like a thirty thousand
foot view of everything that's happening in college hoops right now,
I can ask you this question. But the tournament is
always good, like the NCAA tournament, it's always a great event. Now,
some games are going to be better than others, and
some years are gonna be better than others. But on
the scale of what you expect going into this year,
what kind of tournament are we shaping up to have

(13:08):
in terms of I don't know, you could take it
from a different from different perspectives, like it may is
it gonna be as chalky as last year. I don't know,
But in terms of just overall drama and interest level
maybe from some of these middle of the pack teams
or anything like that, I'm not as I'm not as
gung ho on it this year as I kind of

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felt about it last year.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, So what I would say, and this was the
point that I was gonna make, and I got derailed
ranting about Yukon, So shout out to our listeners and
on our Hertford affiliate who probably enjoyed the hell out
of that rant. No, what I was gonna say is
I do think that top four is really, really, really good,
and by the way Arizona is playing right now, I

(13:51):
think they'll win it when it's stunned me if they
lost on the road, final game, whatever, bring it up,
because I think the two three four lines are not
nearly as strong as last year, and so I think
pretty much everybody except for that those top four are
going to be susceptible. I mean, you look at you know,
Yukon just has taken two terrible losses. Iowa State will

(14:14):
you know, will probably be a two to three seed,
has lost two of their last three and three of
their last five. Now, admittedly not all of them are
bad losses. They lost to Arizona the other day, but
got destroyed by Texas Tech at home. Even Houston, like Houston,
you know, weird because like, offensively, they're probably maybe even

(14:36):
better than they were last year when they played for
a championship, but you could just tell they're younger. They
don't have those dudes like defensively that just make your
life hell. So the only point I guess I'm trying
to make is that is that I think those one seeds,
it's gonna be tough to knock them out early. But
I could see that seven versus two on a Sunday night,

(14:59):
you know whoever that two seed is, Houston, Yukon, whatever,
And then I think that opens up to you know,
what do you want out of your tournament? I think
there will be a balance of more upsets this year,
but the really good teams I do think are going
to separate themselves once that tournament starts.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, well, again, the tournament's gonna be good. I'm I'm
I'm a little bit more interested in just watching the
conference tournaments. Yeah next week, I'm kind of keen on
those just to see how some of these that are
you know, second and third tier teams, who's gonna try
to make a run and who's gonna kind of coalesce
and get on that like hot streak that like NC

(15:37):
State got on a couple of years ago or something
like that. Maybe not even win the tournament, but a
team that's in the mix that solidifies its spot in
the tournament, but maybe find something, you know, I think
a couple of these tournaments ought to be pretty interesting.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
The one thing I will say is that I do
think the SEC it's hard for me to see anybody
beating Florida because and I was telling somebody this, is
that not only is Florida, by the way, like statistically
is insane. Like I saw something about like their point
March they were coming into today, they were on a
ten game winning streak where they were winning by an

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average of twenty three points per game. And so I
say it because Florida is the one where not only
are they the best team, but also like they're also
just a very bad matchup for a lot of the
teams that are good.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
But what I will say is I don't think.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Duke is infallible in the ACC I could see a
couple teams knocking them off. Unfortunately, North Carolina has some injuries.
Otherwise I think they maybe were in contention today, but
I could see Duke knocking them off. Obviously, Arizona will
be the number one seed in the Big Twelve, but
in a league with Houston even Kansas. I don't know
if you saw our buddy Derek. Did you see that

(16:51):
Derek Peterson quote today?

Speaker 4 (16:52):
No? I missed the quote. What he said.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
He was joking. He had a great game.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was obviously their last home game, and so since
I've watched him on these airwaves for a month straight,
he went to the podium and you know, he said,
I love this school. I love the da da da
da dah bridy. Maybe you can even find this quick
sound bite. We'll play it coming out of the break,
but he said, I love the school, I love this
I love that. And then Melvin Counsel, who is like
kind of like basically he's become the star. When Darren

(17:19):
Peterson decides to sit games out, you know, he starts
doing the one more year, one more year, and Darren
Pearson goes, yeah, maybe I'll come back to Kansas next year.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Who knows.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
So it was a pretty funny. It was a pretty
funny SoundBite. But but yeah, sort.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Of doubt that.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, I sort of doubt it too.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
But yeah, even like a listen, if Kansas can actually
lock in and figure out, okay, is this guy playing
or not, like they're a team that can win the
Big twelve.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
So, by the way, if he starts playing and we
don't have any more issues, all of what's happened up
to this point becomes a blip, Like we're not really
gonna talk about this long term. It's gonna be one
weird thing that that happened for a short time. He'll
be asked about in a few interviews as a pro
or something like that on somebody's podcast. But like, if
he goes on and he performs, and that team makes

(18:07):
a deep run in a tournament with behind him, everything's
gonna be fine for him. Like, our whole issue was
that it was radio silence at a time when everybody
else was writing his narrative for him, maybe within complete information,
and that just didn't make any sense from a public
relations standpoint.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
That was my only issue.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And I want to be clear on this, since you know,
we had a couple of rants here over the last
couple of Saturdays. I never would advocate for someone to
play through injuries.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
No, especially a.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Dude who, you know, if things go well, could be
worth half a billion dollars when it's all said and done,
Like this isn't the scrappy sixth man on Oregon State here,
like he's got a bright future ahead of him. All
I was saying, and all you were saying for the
last couple of weeks was hey, like you don't want
people talking about us, give us some clarification. The good
news is he has played actual quite a bit here

(19:00):
over these last couple of weeks. And this was Darren
Peterson after the game today last time.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I'm probably gonna do this episode.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
So I love Kansas, I love everything about being here.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Maybe one more year I might run it back.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
That was Darren Peterson after the game.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
You heard everybody else just kind of chuckling like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I Kansas fans, I would not put down your season
ticket deposits expecting to see Darren Peterson.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Honestly. I mean, let's be real, if he came back,
it'd be one of the dumbest decisions ever. Like, if
he's going top one, top two in the NBA draft.
Go ahead and go, my friend, go go enjoy your life.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
One hundred and so I will say, as somebody who
has obviously been critical of him on these airwaves in
other places, I'm happy that he got that moment. You know,
there was Kansas played somebody I guess it was Iowa Statement.
They played somebody on Big Monday a few weeks ago,
and any.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, I think it was Iowa State.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, And he got that moment where like basically it
was actually the Houston game. They played Houston Big Monday
a few weeks ago, and he got that moment where
he was just one of the guys and got to
run off. So I I you know, I hope he
stays healthy. Whatever was the issue, I hope is behind him.
Kansas gets the win today and Big twelve is just

(20:21):
about done except for the late game. Here Texas Tech
and b YU Fox Sports Radio eron towards Jason mart
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about everybody who's gonna be in.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
We've talked about Yukon and Duke and Kansas.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
What about the team that we're not sure is in
Miami of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
We'll discuss them next.

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Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Tors, Jason Martin.
We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios, eleven twenty nine Eastern time. We
got four games on with Arizona number two in the country,
tied at fourteen at Colorado. Actually Colorado's up seventeen and fourteen.

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Excuse me, Washington and Oregon has just started on FS one.
Of course, UCLA beating USC and the crosstown rivalry. Right
before we got on air, we have BYU trailing Texas
Tech at the half and jmart don't know who you
have in your Summit League tournament bracket. But right now

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in the second semi final, Saint Thomas is up thirty
four to twenty eight on North Dakota. The winner tomorrow
night will get North Dakota State the Bison who won
earlier in the day against Omaha, and the winner there
it gets an auto bids.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well see if Miami of Ohio gets an auto bid.
But they did finish the regular season thirty one to
zero on Friday nights, So Jamar, I'll be honest, So
I'm a little on the weeds in college hoops. And
you know, you kind of saw this comment as it
went from you know, really you know, interesting story to
like really cool story, to then the pushback on the

(22:48):
really cool story. Because of course, Miami of Ohio is undefeated.
They finished the regular season last night, Friday night, with
an overtime win over Ohio University.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
But there's obviously been a lot of pushback.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
They play in a small league, they have a very
low strength of schedule, They played zero Power Conference teams. Now,
it is worth noting Travis Steele has said in multiple
interviews that they basically called every essentially every single Power
Conference team and they all declined to play Miami of Ohio,
and of course the reason being that they knew Miami

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of Ohio was going to be returning a lot of
their talent. Blah blah blah blah blah, this and that,
and there's no I.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Mean that you win it, and they're like, all right,
you beat Miami of Ohio.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
It's it's a hard case to make for the big
for the big guy to want to play the little
guy because there's so much to lose and very little
to gain.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes, one hundred and so it's this weird situation where
they're now thirty one and oh they finished twenty and
ohero in their league. They played zero Power Conference teams.
Resume isn't very good. But do you think there's any
And by the way, I should also reference because this
was part of the talking point Auburn, which lost tonight,

(24:00):
is now sixteen and fifteen. Why it's important former head
coach Bruce pearl Is on TV. He has a very
prominent voice, said that teams like Alburn should get the
benefit of doubt for playing tough schedules. Of course, his
son took over for him at Auburn and Alburn is
kind of a unique case because they do have literally
the number one strength of schedule in America. Where are
you at on this story? Has it captivated you? Are

(24:23):
you worried at all about Miami of Ohio being left out?
What do you think? As the RedHawks improved to thirty
one and oh with the win on Friday Night?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
So thirty one and Oho feels like to me in
a field as big as the NCAA tournament put him in.
This is not college football, where the numbers are so
much different and the just the percentages of teams that
actually get a shot in the college football playoff is
so much smaller. In this case, I think you can

(24:54):
find a way, and quite frankly, you can find a
way at the expense of a middling big conference team
that did very little to distinguish themselves if they played
a tough schedule, but they're one game over five hundred, Like,
do I think Miami of Ohio is going to get
into the tournament and make a deep run? No? But
what more could they do then go undefeated? And to

(25:17):
to coach Steele's point, if they did all that they
could do in terms of trying to improve their schedule,
trying to get some games like that. What more at
that point, like if you hold them out, then what
exactly are you saying? It's just like, well, they never
had a chance to begin with. They shouldn't have even tried,
Like they shouldn't have even attempted to play because no

(25:38):
one was going to add them to the schedule, and
then you were going to say, well, your schedule's not
good enough, like thirty one to zero. Now I will say, look,
escaping that game in overtime against not a particularly good team.
On the other side, that doesn't help your case. But
I feel like this the NCAA tournament in the early going,

(26:00):
in the first weekend, maybe even into the sweet sixteen,
is so much about the stories. It's about the storylines,
and it's hard to believe that a thirty one to
oh team wouldn't be exciting just to see what they
could do against the teams that would not play them
during the regular season. So, you know, I am less

(26:21):
about the little guy in college football generally, just because
I do think there is a difference in the kind
of games that are played by some of these other conferences.
In this case, when you've won thirty one games and
that's all you've played. I think it would be a
shame if they were left out.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, So a couple things.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
One and admittedly this is just one bracket, but I'm
looking at it right now. Joe Lenardi, who obviously is
kind of the industry standard. He has four teams from
the SEC either in the last actually he has Auburn
in the last four in Okay, there you go. They
they're now sixteen and fifteen. This bracket is obviously a
little bit outdated. He has SMU, who is of course

(27:06):
now in the ACC. They finished their regular season nineteen
and twelve, eight and ten in the league, and oh,
by the way, lost four straight to end the regular season.
What I would say is a couple things is one,
you're absolutely so, you're right on You're right on a
lot of stuff, Jamart obviously, But yes, the two specific
things that you said that stood out to me was

(27:28):
one is that the field is bigger. And I think
you and I disagree a little bit on the college
football playoff, if the G five should get one bid, whatever,
It doesn't change the fact though that in college football
it does feel like you're potentially leaving out good teams
from a twelve team field that could make a run,
most notably this year, Notre Dame, respectful to Auburn, which

(27:49):
is sixteen to fifteen again, and some of these other
teams that are right on the bubble, they're not making
a run. And even if they hypothetically can make a run,
they have had their chances throughout the season, and so
to me, I'm with you, they've had more than enough opportunities.
Part of the NCAA tournament, as you said, is the storylines.

(28:11):
And let me just say one other thing, which there's
no real tangible way to kind of prove this, but
this is my biggest issue with forcing in all these
teams that are really struggling, and you know, middling I
think is the word you used, and it's one hundred
percent correct. You know who's the last team? You know,
who are the last people that want to watch Auburn

(28:33):
basketball right now? Auburn fans, they know they're not good,
they know they're not good. I won't name the name
of the person because he works at Fox Sports, but
but you might know him, you might not. It's no,
it's nobody's super important. But I remember a few years ago,
I'll just say he's he was a fan of the
University of Texas and Texas Undershaka Smart had like a

(28:54):
three four year run where every year they were on
the bubble and every year they were whatever. And I
remember texting time and I just said, dude, so you
you know, like you think you're gonna make it.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
He's like, I'm so tired of watching this team. I
hope we don't make it. And that's all Burn fans, right.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
I know you're not on social media anymore, Jmart, do
a quick Google search Allburn basketball.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
All it is is either people like us in the
media saying don't put them in or Auburn fans being like,
I hate this team. End the season. Put me out
of my misery. So we got to get to the SEGA.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
But really quick, any final thoughts on just yeah, anything
college hoops And we got two more hours. But but
obviously this has been a huge talking point and curious
for anything else you have to add.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
There, No, I mean, not necessarily. I think that's I
think that's funny and I think it's probably more true
than a lot of fan bases would want to admit that, Like,
when you're watching a team, even if you love them
to death. Like your bias can only go so far
when it relates to what you believe is possible. So
it's like just put us in. It's no like I
don't want to see us go get drubbed by twenty
five against nobody, or I don't want to go play

(30:01):
boring basketball and just be done on Thursday or Friday
when we start the tournament. The same way, I feel
that way in a lot of sports. Its just like
when my team is not it. It's not like I
want them to lose, but it's just like, man, do
we even need the torture that goes along with this
or can we just turn the page and look to
next season?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, and I'll just be really quick because we got
to get to disagre.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
This is what I was saying about you Connor earlier,
is that you can look at a win loss record
and it's obviously not the same. But twenty seven and
four two really bad losses down the stretch. Everyone who
watches this team every game knows, you know what, we
know what a championship team looks like, and this probably
ain't it. And I know that Auburn fans feel the
same way. I'm sure a lot of teams on the bubble.
Their fans feel the same way. Miami fans, don't I think,

(30:44):
by the way, for what it's worth thirty one to oh,
I don't think the Committe's leaving him out, even if
they lose in the conference tournament. Fox Sports Radio er
Torris Jason Martin. We're broadcasting live. Yes, we are live
from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Still a lot to discuss,
but there's also a lot we've missed. Let's get it over.
It's the news desk first time this evening. Steve de Sega,
what is Treday?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Hello.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
Yukon men's basketball coach Dan Hurley was fined by the
Big East tonight twenty five thousand dollars for his unsportsmanlike
conduct today and the closing seconds of the loss at Marquette,
but no suspension. With one second left in the game.
The coach got two tes for, as the Conference put it,
aggressively confronting a game official subsequently kicked out failed to

(31:24):
leave the court in a timely manner. There was speculation
on the broadcast about possible contact with the official. However,
the Big East says a review by the conference office
of the officials. Game report and available game footage could
not confirm physical contact. The Big East commissioned inappropriate interactions
with our officials will not be tolerated, so fine but

(31:46):
no suspension for Dan Hurley as Marquette ups at number
four Yukon sixty eight sixty two, Number one Duke beat
number seventeen North Carolina seventy six seventy one. Carolina freshman
Caleb Wilson is out for the year after thumb surgery
broke his right thumb in practice. Wisconsin won at number
fifteen per Due ninety seven, ninety three, number twenty. Arkansas

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was an overtime winner at Missouri eighty eight eighty four.
Louisville won at number twenty four rank Miami ninety two
to eighty nine. Vanderbilt won at Tennessee in a top
twenty five match up eighty six eighty two. George Mason
upset number twenty five Saint Louis eighty six to fifty seven.
In progress, Colorado in the first half leads number two

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Arizona twenty six eighteen halftime lead for ten ranked Texas
Tech at BYU forty six to thirty eight, and going
to the dance is Tennessee State winning the Ohio Valley
Championship Game ninety three sixty seven over Morehead State, and
Long Island gets an NCAA bid after winning a semifinal
in the Northeast Conference Tournament. Mercyhurst their final opponent, still

(32:53):
in the four year transition to Division One, not eligible
in the NHL, Buffalo won at six straight game three
to two, two against Nashville victories for Tampa Bay and Boston.
The forty nine Ers gave kicker Eddie Pinero a four
year contract where ten million dollars guaranteed. Dallas placed a
restricted tender on kicker Brandon Aubrey. The Chargers re signed

(33:13):
linebacker Khalil Mack. Green Bay acquired linebacker Zaire Franklin from
the Colts. Joey Logato earned the poll for Sunday's NASCAR
race in Phoenix. Joseph Neugarden won the Indy Car event
there in Phoenix. US women's soccer scored late to win
one nothing against Columbia in New Jersey today, taking the
annual She Believes Tournament, going three to oh this past week,

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and Caitlin Clark will make her US national team debut
next week. The Americans are playing in Puerto Rico at
a FOEBA World Cup qualifier. Of course, her WNBA season
last summer was cut short by injuries plural. She was
not on the Paris Olympic team a couple summers ago.
She's not only anticipating next week's qualifiers, but in the

(33:57):
fall playing on the US World Cup team and then
on the Olympic team in La at the La Clippers
Arena in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Pick to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, soon to
be Sunday on the East coast erin Torris. Jason Martin,
we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Will come back in addition to college hoops, World Baseball Classic.
Are we into it? Are we not Team USA getting
the win on Saturday? We'll discuss that next.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Eric Tors, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yes, we are live here at
eleven forty nine Eastern Time. A lot of college hoops
still going on, including a top well not a top
twenty five match up anymore, because by you can't stop
losing because unfortunately their whole team start except for age

(34:53):
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talked a lot of college basketball. If you missed any

(35:18):
of it, you can go back and check it out
on the podcast, and we will revisit plenty of college
hoops throughout the show. But Team USA World Baseball Classic
World B Group B excuse me, goes to two and zero,
the nine to one win over Great Britain, Great Britain
featuring that famous British baseball star Jazz Chisholm, among others.

(35:42):
But the USA gets to win. I'll tell you this,
j Mart, Listen, it's to me more background when I'm
just hanging like I'm not well, I guess you know.
We'll see how it goes when we get deeper into
the tournament. But I love the World Baseball class Again,
maybe it's just the you know, the Americana and the

(36:04):
playing for the name, you know, the red, white and
blue whatever. I've been really into it. And I'll tell
you this. Last night, you know, the wife was not
really around, and I caught a replay at one of
the Japan games and it was like the stadium was awesome.
Puerto Rico had a walk off tonight in Puerto Rico.
It's a really fun event. You know, we're not going

(36:24):
to break down bullpens and depth charts, but I really
enjoy myself. If you had a chance to watch any.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yet a little bit not as much as like I
was really excited about it. And it's just I don't
know if it's just my brain hasn't fully turned on
yet when it comes to it, but it's like it's
sort of happening. And I will say this, like if
you are, if you're not like active on social media,
a lot of things can slip past if you're not

(36:50):
really paying close attention. And so I've kind of watched
a lot of it through highlights, but I was able
to see some of both nights of both of the
last night and tonight, and you're right, like the atmosphere
is fantastic, and I don't know exactly there's not much
more that they could do. It's still gonna be a
great way to just sort of give a bit of

(37:14):
an extra boost to the upcoming MLB season. I think
it's gonna get better and better as we go along.
But you are, you're already seeing like what it looks
like when guys care in international competition. You know, you
had the big judge performance yesterday and just it has
been it's already been fun. I just don't know that
I'm like one hundred percent there yet, Like I part

(37:36):
of me is there, and I just I'm waiting for
the rest of me to catch up.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
No, I totally get it. I mean, listen, there's a
lot going on in the world of sports. We have
NBA going on. We obviously we reference off the top
some f one has started and so I get it.
I will say this too, like, and it's probably just
coming off the patriotism of the US winning gold and
men's ice hockey, but like, I do think there is

(38:01):
something too, like like you know, what's the coolest part
jmart Is you know, we spend a lot of time
and maybe too much being negative about you know, how
much do these athletes actually care? Load management? Is Darren
Peterson opting out. It's like when these guys put on
the red, white and blue, whether it's hockey even the NBA,
Like those guys like you could tell they really care.

(38:24):
And I guess it would have been two you know,
two summers ago in twenty twenty four when it was
Steph and Lebron and then of course this World Baseball Classic,
Like you can tell there is something a little bit extra.
You know, you go back to the last World Baseball
Classic show Heyo tanis striking out Mike Trout to end
the event. I just think there's something to that patriotism,

(38:44):
at least from the USA perspective.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Red white and blue. It pops off the TV, I guess,
is what.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
I would say. Oh, yeah it does. Yeah, it just
it's a cool environment and it's I think I it also,
I would say it doesn't hurt to come off the
tail end of the Winter Olympics. Yep, like we were
already kind of in the international mindset and for us
here in the United States, we're wrapped in the flag

(39:11):
a little bit more than usual because of what happened
with the hockey team to end everything. So to go
from that straight into oh we've got more international competition.
Oh it's baseball, Like you can get down with that,
you really can. And of course Japan embracing the game
and having so many stars in their own right just
adds a little bit more to it. The one thing
that's always fun about the World Baseball Classic is when

(39:32):
you realize, oh, he's from that country. Yeah. That seems
to happen more often than I would like to admit.
A few times you'll see like like Ozzy Albi's is
out there for the Netherlands. You're like, oh, oh yeah,
I forgot about that. It's just it just totally throws
you off.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Well I think there he plays for probably from a
Ruba or something like that, right, But anyway, noah, you
get I get the point.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
No, it's it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I think the other thing too, like for me is
that it also just gets me into baseball, which coming
up here very quick. But to quote the great Arnie Spaniard,
I don't know about great, but hour one just flow
id by. We're gonna come back j Martin. It was
also a busy week in the NFL. We got a
lot to get to. Max Crosby. Not sure if you
heard he's traded. Yeah, Dj Moore, he was traded. McDuffie

(40:17):
is a ram. We'll talk about that. It's all coming
up next. We're on til two am Eastern. Erratorist Jason Martin.
This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome in everybody, hour two
tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting. Yes, we
are live here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, midnight
Eastern on Sunday. For everybody else, it's of course still Saturday,

(40:40):
by the way, daylight savings.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I have to fly tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
I'm very confused and also a little worried about going
to the wrong I mean, I think I'll go to
the right airport. But am I gonna You know, my
phone usually just changes automatically, but sometimes, you know what
if it doesn't. Got a lot on my mind, Jamarin
got out on my mind. So anyway, it is midnight Eastern.

(41:07):
We'll get we'll skip an hour this week this year, right,
I think we do we.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Push forward into spring forward.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Yeah, you spring forward and fall back, so we.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Get one less hour. Bernie Fratto, which that's no good.
But other than that, uh yeah, so we lose an
hour of sleep tonight. So that's great because I gotta
get up early anyway to go to the airport. All right, anyway,
but it is midnight Eastern. Uh it is also again
still Saturday in the Central Mountain and Pacific time zones.
Let's uh, let's go ahead and talk about a busy

(41:38):
week in the NFL Jmark. We talked a lot of
college hoops to lead the show. And it's funny because
right as we're talking about this, right now, Brendan Brody
tweeted in one minute ago, it appears the Raiders have
finally accepted the rebuild they've needed for twenty five years.
They aren't going to be better than they weren't twenty
five and twenty six, even with Mendoza, because all he

(42:00):
would all we he would have around him are gent
Bowers and Miller.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Say, what's about that? It's about the guys in front
of him, Like if they don't have an offensive line,
it doesn't matter who's back there. Like as good as
Mendoza could possibly be, their O line was a travesty
last year. That's like one of their number one or
maybe it is their number one issue past the QB.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Well, even let me finish the tweet. He said, we
have seven other holes on offense. I would assume five
of them are on the O line.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
I would have to think, so yes, I will say this.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
We'll talk Kyler Murray later, Mike Kyler Murray takes from
like seven years ago or aging. Well, I will also say, my,
why are you drafting Ashton Genty with the fourth pick
when you have a million problems?

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Take?

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I think has aged pretty well. You don't both. I
think we were both on that.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
One's like, there's nothing against Genty, but that's not you
don't have the luxury to draft Ashton Genty when you
have all these other necessities that that you have not
taken care of.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Bingo, I will We'll save those takes for another day.
All I will say is, and I said this at
the time, is that if you're drafting a running back
in the top ten, it has to be And I
know we criticized Jerry Jones for a lot, but like
the Zeke Elliott was a perfect example of that year
was the year that they had been good.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Then Tony Romo gets hurt.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
They randomly get a top five pick in in an
era when they were consistently making the playoffs. That's when
you take a running back number top five overall, not
when you're the freaking Raiders and you've been terrible for
a quarter century. So Brendan Brody's tweet takes us perfectly
to the news of Friday. Let's rip through some of
the news. We'll get to some of the bigger picture
conversations in a minute. But first of all, Max Crosby

(43:42):
is officially a Baltimore Raven you know, this on again,
off again thing, of course ended yesterday.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
He was traded to Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
The Ravens send over a couple picks, including a couple
first rounders.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
You know, I mean, i'sten.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Everyone has heard everyone's takes here on Fox Sports Radio
over the last twenty four hours. But listen, I mean
it is what it is, right, two first round picks
for the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
They need to.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Get just a lot of talent in that building, including
at the quarterback position, so they will get They will
get the fourteenth pick in this year's draft and a
first round pick I believe next year, and of course
they have the number one overall pick, which we assume
will be Fernando Mendoza. Any quick thoughts on the Max
Crosby move and what will rip through all these but

(44:32):
quick thoughts on Max Crosby to the Baltimore Rams.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
I mean, Baltimore is swinging hard. They're definitely going into
getting a What's amazing to me, I didn't realize Max
Crosby was only twenty eight. It felt like he had
been in the league longer. But I mean, he's still
He's got a lot of football left in And one
thing that I found amazing and I think it's just
your saying the right things, but Max Crosby said, I

(44:54):
feel like I'll let you all down. I saw the
Raiders fans and I'm like, bro, you could not possibly
have done more for that organization than you did. And
I feel like ultimately he probably knows that, but he's
just he's just one of those kind of competitors, which
speaks a lot to him. But like, there's nothing true

(45:17):
about that statement whatsoever. If there is anybody that wore
that uniform that has not let any Raiders fans down,
it is Max Crosby. Uh. He is an unbelievable player.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
An unbelievable player, and yeah, no, it's one of those
things like and we saw this with Miles Garrett, and
I understand, like, you know, Miles Garrett's little bit different
because he just got that huge contract and obviously Max
Crosby's while taken care of. But it's like at a
certain point, like I think we're past j mart of Like, listen,
we're not talking like James Harden here in terms of

(45:53):
guys that are leaving franchises, Like, we know you left
everything on the field. And I think the other thing
that's obvious is with these football players, like your shelf
life is just so limited, and we're never gonna blame
you for you hit your late twenties. You might only
have two or three good years of your prime left.
And so listen, if you want to be Miles Garrett

(46:14):
and stay in Cleveland, that's fine, but no one is
ever gonna blame you for wanting to leave a team
that is obviously not okay.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
So so I was just thinking about this in the moments,
Like the cool thing here is we now get to
watch Max Crosby play real games, like games that really matter,
and his talent's still gonna jump off the page the
same way. But he's gonna be on a team that's
gonna be relevant no matter what. No offense to Raiders
fans out there, but you know who you are and
you know who you're not. But Max Crosby is not

(46:43):
gonna be the next Mike Trout. Yep. And it's another
example like you can't hear it. It's great that Mike
Trout wanted to be where he was, and you make
whatever decision that you want to make, but man, I
would have liked to have seen Mike Trout in his
prime play in playoff series relevancy and really been able
to show what he was doing. And that's just the case.

(47:04):
It's like sports are better when top flight athletes get
a chance to compete on the biggest stage. It's cool
to have an awesome player in a smaller market, but
it's not about the size of the market. It's about
the franchise and how it's run. If your franchise is
run like trash and has been run like trash for
a long time, then at that point you start to

(47:26):
feel sorry for that athlete. But eventually it's gonna be
up to him to make a move. And this is
not necessarily. I mean, this is not Crosby making this
choice or whatever. He wanted to try to find a way.
I think at least that's what he was saying. But
it's gonna be fun to watch him play for a
team that, at least some will probably overrate and think

(47:48):
have a chance to win a Super Bowl next year.
We did it last year. I don't think either one
of us is gonna do it this year. But I mean,
Max Crosby's a stud and he's gonna be great for them,
and Jesse mentor the defensive wizard that he is, is
gonna bring somebody in there that's gonna make his defense
have some extra teeth to it. Although, and I know
we can talk about it in longer form, the defense

(48:11):
was I mean, their defense wasn't good last year, but
the reason that they were where they were is because
their offense and their quarterback was not right.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yes, we'll talk about them in just a minute. I
actually want to talk McDuffie here in half a second.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Do you have anything to.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Add on Dj Moore going to the Buffalo Bills. I mean,
we know, listen, star wide receiver, Josh Allen, offensive head coach.
I don't really have much to say other than the obvious,
but I don't want to not give you the floor
if you have some big takes here.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Well, I mean, DJ Moore's last moment with the Bears
is one that all Bears fans would like to forget.
The miscommunication where he just didn't make a play for
the football that led to that interception from Caleb into playoffs.
It was a bad moment. It was a flat out
bad moment. But if there is anybody who knows what

(49:03):
DJ Moore can be when he's really dialed in and right,
it's Joe Brady who coached him in Carolina. So you
go back and I have the stats in front of him.
He had two forty seven yards during the two seasons
that Joe Brady was his OC in Carolina. That was
seventh in the NFL over that span. He had seventy
five point eight receiving yards per game that was eleventh

(49:27):
in the league. And he had two hundred and thirty
overall targets, which was eighth in the league. Those are
I think those are, ESPN says, So Joe Brady knows
what he's got in Dj Moore. Now it's five years
down the Road. I don't know if he's the difference
maker or not, but he's off. I mean, he's always

(49:47):
been a very, very good player. He's somebody that you
like to have. If you're Josh Allen, there's no question
about that. You bring him in. You just hope that
that low moment for him at the end of the
Bears which an aberration, and that Brady and him are
gonna get along swimming lead just the way they did
in Carolina.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Let's switch gears to the one that I've referenced a
few times, Trent McDuffie to the Los Angeles Rams. So
this one, to me was the most interesting because j Mart,
you know, listen, let's call space Spade here is we're
in this business and we love talking sports. The only
thing you love more about than talking sports is you

(50:27):
love being right when you talk about sports. Now and listen,
I've said since, I actually said since before Mahomes got hurt.
I said, at some point, you have to reset this thing.
This being the Chiefs. They you and I had so
many conversations about Takeout fifteen.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
They look old.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
I remember going back to forget the you know, you
can probably go back to last year. I mean, I
remember in the lead up to the Super Bowl against
the Eagles last February saying, like, outside of outside of quarterback,
I don't trust them at at any spot on the
field against the Eagles, and then you go into Week
one they lose to the Chargers in Brazil and it

(51:07):
never gets better. So I bring it up because I've
been saying, like, listen, it feels like a transition. I've
said it a million times. There were two eras of
the Tom Brady era. There was the era early on
when he had Teddy Bruski and all those guys, and
then the second era was Gronk and it was Randy
Moss and it was whatever.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
And so I bring it up.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Because it has felt like they have needed to kind
of get to the next era because if you watch them,
they just simply were not as talented as a lot
of the best teams in this league. So I bring
it up because you never want to see a player
get hurt. You hope Patrick Mahomes gets back to one
hundred percent. But I said, this is a great way

(51:49):
to reset, use your draft picks, get young, and ramp
this thing back up. Now we still listen to Mahomes
still says he wants to play early next year Week one.
We'll see if that happens. Kelsey hasn't officially retired yet,
We'll see if that happens. But the Trent McDuffie trade,
to me, says that while everyone is going to try
to win games, I think the Chiefs are acknowledging, like,

(52:11):
you know what, we need a hard reset here. We
need to get young around fifteen as he goes into
the back half of his career into his thirties. That's
what that trade said to me. There's obviously Rams implications
as well. Yes, but that was the interesting thing to
me personally about the Trent McDuffie trade.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
So I saw Bill Barnwell, who I respect a lot,
He mentioned that this fits with what the Rams do
because they've never cared about late first round picks. So
for them to move on to then pick up an
all pro to beef up their defense in their secondary
a little bit more makes all the sense in the
world for a team that's contending. I think that what
is not said in that statement is what is my takeaway,

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which is this reveals to me the hard reset that
you just said. One hundred percent agree, But I think
it also reveals that the front office of the Chiefs
knows this is more than this coming season in terms
of a rebuild. Sure, I do not think they are

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going to be a contender this season. I think that
they have realized. I mean, look, they did what they
had to, but eventually, like so, they're gonna look for
a running back this year too. I don't know if
they're gonna do it in free agency or they're gonna
do something in the draft or both, but they're gonna
be looking in that direction and some other directions. But eventually,
you got to have more than Isaiah Pacheco. Eventually, you

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do have to plan for life after Travis Kelse. Eventually
you have to have some dynamic guys, some leap off
the page guys on both sides of the ball, and
even your dynamic receivers in terms of dudes that can
run the forty really fast, Like there's just nobody that
scares you really on that roster the way that there

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once was, and as great a coach as Andy Reid
is and as brilliant as Patrick Mahomes is of eventually
you just got to have the horses. Like that's just
the way it is, and right now the Chiefs don't,
and I don't think that that fixes this year. Like
I do not think they win the division this year.
I don't think that they're going to compete. Now we'll see. Look,
maybe they do some crazy stuff in free agency, but

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I just kind of sense that this is a longer
term situation, a longer term plan, and so this year
will be the start of that. And they've been a
brilliantly run organization for a long time, so I believe
in their ability to get themselves back where they need to.
But I think that when you admit, okay, I think

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we've done all we can do here. I'm not saying
they're tearing it down to the studs, but they are
clearly doing more than just adding a room onto a house. Like.
They have to do a lot and more renovation work here,
and it's not going to be a quick process.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Do you think Mahomes should play this year?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
I see, I think that's a fair question. I certainly
do not think that you rush back if you're Patrick Mahomes,
because you've still got a lot of football left in
front of you. If you know, going into the season,
we do not have a roster that can compete. Why
are you going to do anything other than be as
cautious as possible before you come back. And look, if

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you guys somehow find yourselves in the mix midway through
the season and he's ready to come back and fully healthy,
then that's fine. But here's the thing. If Patrick Mahomes
wants to play because he's that kind of competitor, the
more power to him. I'm certainly not saying don't, but
I am saying that I would err on the side
of caution because I don't think that the Chiefs are
going to be I mean, if they're in the playoffs

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at all, I don't think that they're going to be
particularly formidable. Even if Patrick Mahomes is healthy.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, no, and he's a competitor and he's gonna want
to come back, I just want I don't think you
rush it. And then two, I also think, yeah, I
just don't think you're By the way, this interesting fact
that I've decided to look up on the spot. Brady
obviously missed all but a couple plays of the two
thousand and eight season that was his age thirty one season.

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Patrick Mahomes will turn thirty one during the season this year.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
So doesn't feel like he's that old either. Like I
know I said that about about Crosby, but Patrick Mahomes
has been in the NFL longer than we think. Like
I understand that we've perennially just seen him in the
playoffs and all this, but he's actually I mean, he's
been playing football in the NFL for a long time.
Like he is getting older. He's getting older by the year.

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I know that sounds insane, but like, eventually there is
going to be some kind of a drop off in
his skill set. We haven't seen it yet, but I
don't know that you want to put him out there
to take a few more reps this year when you're
not going to be competing.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, and to that point, yes, I would, because obviously
quarterback is a position that you can play into your
late thirties and maybe even your forties. Yeah, if he
was a wide receiver and he wanted to come back, okay,
but your quarterback, I would avoid those hits. I would
not rush back, and I don't think it'll be the

(57:13):
worst thing for him if, of course he does not
come back, and if the Chiefs stink, and if they
can really retool with a lot of picks and including
the Trent McDuffie pick. Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin,
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Mahomes entering.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Thirty, the year.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Where he turns thirty one, Lamar and Josh Allen are
entering the year where they turn thirty. A lot of
pressure on them and a lot of pressure on two
new head coaches. Who has more pressure Joe Brady or
Jesse Minter will discuss that next er Tords Jason Martin.

Speaker 1 (57:50):

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live. Yes,
we are live here at twelve twenty six Eastern Time
from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Plenty more football to talk,
and we'll do it in just a minute. But before
we do, let's get it over to the news desk.
Steve de Seger, what is Trendang.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
Mentioned last hour that the Big East has fine Connecticut
men's basketball coach Dan Hurley twenty five thousand dollars for
his actions late in the loss at Marquette. Today, he
was not suspended. The league could not determine if there
was physical contact with the ref and yes he was
arguing and then not leaving the courts in a timely manner.

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End quote after he was kicked out. Marquette upset number
four Yukon sixty eight sixty two. May I point out
that Saint John's is the one seed for the Big
East Tournament next week.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
First ever back to back regular season championships for them.

Speaker 7 (58:53):
That is amazing, because I know they earlier this week
said hey, first time in forty years, you know, since
Chris Mullet.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
But this yeah, LONGUS win streak ever this year too,
it's amazing.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
One seed. Saint John's with Rick Patino as coach, has
its quarterfinal on Thursday. FS one Thursday Nights this next
week will have a double header of quarterfinals from Madison
Square Garden Yukon game first, Villanova game after that, and
it could be Yukon against Marquette because the packet is out,
and if Marquette wins the day before, it's a rematch

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in the quarterfinal on Thursday. Both FS one and Fox
will have Big East Tournament games next weekend. The regular
season for the men ending this weekend. There is a
game of note right now with number two Arizona, after
trailing by eleven in the first half, now leading at
Colorado fifty one forty eight early in the second half.
Number ten Texas Tech was up eight at the half

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at BYU, but the Cougars now lead Texas Tech seventy
two to sixty six about five minutes to go, and
in a conference tournament semifinal in the Summit LI tonight's
winner faces North Dakota State in the final. Right now,
it's tied sixty apiece North Dakota against Saint Thomas of Minnesota.

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Tennessee State won the Ohio Valley Championship game Long Island one.
To get an NCAA bid, the forty nine Ers gave
kicker Eddie Pinero a four year contract where ten million
dollars guaranteed. Dallas placed a restricted tender on kicker Brandon
Aubrey so it can match any offer apparently worth about
five point seven million dollars, or would get a second

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rounder if Aubrey leaves. Aubrey has been voted to the
Pro Bowl in all three of his NFL seasons, and
he's already made thirty five field goals of fifty yards
and beyond. The Chargers resigned linebacker Khalil Mack one year
eighteen million dollars. The Ravens resigned backup quarterback Tyler Huntley.
Green Bay acquired linebacker Zaire Franklin from the Colts for

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defensive tackle Kobe Wooden, who has one year left on
his rookie deal. The Colts were one of five teams
still above the salary cap. The league's free agency period
begins on Wednesday. Teams have to be under the cap
by then, and by the way I've seen the cap
space on the other end of the spectrum, I've never
seen a team like the Raiders have this much cap

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space going into the new league year this next week.
It's almost one hundred and twenty five million dollars worth
of cap space. I don't think they're gonna do anything
with it, but and I don't know if it's unprecedented.
I've never seen such a thing. By comparison, the Chiefs
have our twenty five million worth of room on the
salary cap. But the five teams going into the weekend

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that needed to do something, the Vikings they restructured tight
ends deal, Colts they made a trade Lions Ravens bills
as well Buffalo is re signing center Connor McGovern four
years worth over thirty million dollars guaranteed. The Eagles gave
defensive tackle Jordan Davis a three year extension. We're sixty
five mill guaranteed, and Rams defensive back Darius Williams retired.

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Joey Logano are on the poll for Sunday's NASCAR race
in Phoenix. Joseph Newgarden won the Indy Car event there
in Phoenix. Rory McElroy today withdrew from the golf tournament
in Orlando due to backspasms. They had some rain today
at the Arnold Palmer Invitational. So the third round, well,
it's late, third round, not yet done, but Daniel Berger's
lead is down to two strokes. He was up by five.

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US women's soccer has posted eight straight shutouts now they
scored late to win one nothing in New Jersey today
against Columbia. They take the annual She Believes Tournament, going
three to zero. This past week they had also shut
out Canada and Argentina, and a Major League Soccer Miami
played in Baltimore at the Ravens Stadium with Messi in town.
D C United's game was there Messi scored a goal

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too to one Miami over DC. Attendance was seventy two thousand.
Back to you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Very much, Steve Sager.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Segaill be back in just a few minutes with his
extended update, as he does every week. This is Fox
Sports Radio, Eric Torres, Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
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(01:03:28):
stick with the NFL mention in the last segment. Several
trades of note, but the ones that are especially interesting
to me are the ones that kind of signify that
teams that we already knew were all in are absolutely
all in. And I think specifically, we all know the situation.

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Buffalo and Baltimore. They've been listen, we all know the deal.
They've both been right on the cusp for years. You
and I had so many segments during September and October
and November, and more so Buffalo than Baltimore because they
dealt with a lot of injuries.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
But if this isn't the year, when will it be?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Well, it wasn't the year. Both made coaching changes, and
I want to touch on this. Dj Moore traded to
the Buffalo Bills. We also have Max Crosby traded to
the Baltimore Ravens. Both teams with new head coaches, both
teams all in my question to you, who has more

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pressure on them as a first year head coach? Is
it Jesse Minter in Baltimore or Joe Brady in Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
I think it's Joe Brady, and I think that is
because I don't know. I think it's a fair debate,
but I think that a coach that is known for
his offense on a team with Josh Allen as quarterback,
it's going to be more on him. And I also
think there is something to be said for the fact

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that Sean mcda irmitt the time that they let him
go was coming off of a game and a coaching
performance that really didn't seem to indicate that that game
should have cost him his job cumulatively. If you looked
last couple of years before that, Yeah, you could have
made that argument. But I think that Joe Brady has
more pressure because Josh Allen right now is the better

(01:05:21):
player when you look at him and Lamar Jackson. So
if you're making that argument, I think that jesse mentor
also don't think jesse Mincher's name is quite as big. Yeah,
I think that's part of it too. We know who
Joe Brady is. He was the bell of the ball
for LSU, and of course we saw some of what
he was able to do with the offense in Carolina

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and things of that nature. So I think that his
name and his star as a name adds a little
bit more to it as well. Jesse Minter is not
a big time name just for a regular football fan,
like he's certainly well known if you're up on the
NFL and certainly even if you want high end college
football in the last couple of years of hardball up there.

(01:06:04):
But looking at everything, I think in totality, I think
that the bigger star of the two is Joe Brady,
So I think that more is gonna fall on him
than on Mentor, especially when you look at the quarterbacks
and kind of I would say the opposite direction that
they have been trending over the last season.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, let me ask you this, do you think there's
something too more pressure being on Joe Brady? Because well, really,
I think there's two reasons and one you may have
hinted at. But let's just get to it. You know,
Josh Allen, I know the playoff game was terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
He was awesome for seventeen weeks during the regular season,
and so inherently I think there's less pressure on Jesse
Mintter because the starting point with Lamar Jackson isn't there.
Lamar is coming off an injury plague season, and and
I line up this that the other thing. But I
was gonna ask you, do you think what Joe Brady

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having been in the building, you know, clearly they felt
like they had to move on from you know, from
from Sean McDermott. Do you think there's something too like
more pressure on him just because like he's kind of
just an extension of what they've already been doing where
mintor whether it's fair or not, like new coach new staff.

(01:07:25):
Everybody's new. I don't know. I don't I don't know
if that's a relevant point or not.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Right, No, I think that it is. I think that
for the most part, at this point, the argument is
not in Baltimore, well, who's going to actually unlock Lamar
Jackson and give him a chance to win a Super Bowl?
Like I think that John Harball was still seen as
a coach that could do that, But whoever's in Buffalo, Like,

(01:07:51):
I think the argument is always who's the coach that's
gonna get Josh Allen to the super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Fair or not? I think that's the That's the way
that Matt I'd live would play out, like if you
were trying to finish that sentence. And then on the
other side, I don't think the question is, well, what
coach is going to get Lamar to the super Bowl?
Because generally in the playoffs throughout his career, Lamar has
not been very good, and he's coming off a season

(01:08:17):
where he just by his own standards, he was definitely
not what he needed to be and there were even
some question marks about what he was doing in practice
and how dialed in he was, and it was just
the whole situation in Baltimore was ugly, so they needed
more of a fresh start. But I think that you
get more runway then if you're jesse mentor coming into
that spot than somebody that And this is kind of

(01:08:40):
what you were saying, somebody's coming in against a you know,
MVP level player last year in Josh Allen that people
were saying people on our airwaves to get paid a
whole lot of money to say this said might be
the most talented player to ever play the quarterback position
in the history of the NFL. So I think that
right there, you're going to have more on you because

(01:09:03):
somebody has to let you and put you in a
position to do that. And I do think the front
office is part of that, which is why you know,
keeping being and elevating him and getting rid of McDermott
is I think that was the thing that raised most
of our eyebrows. It wasn't just that you got rid
of McDermott, it's that you promoted the guy that put

(01:09:24):
the team together, which I don't know that that was
a particularly well done job of the last handful of years.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
No, I agree with that one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
And yeah, I just do think it's a broader, interesting
conversation about who the pressure's on, where the pressure is,
and I do think with Baltimore there is more pressure
on the quarterback himself. By the way, total hard pivot
really quickly. We do have a very interesting game in
the Summit semi finals. I know, probably not a needle

(01:09:54):
movie for most of the national people here, but winner
plays for the conference championship game in an automatic bit
it is tied with twenty two seconds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I'll keep you updated.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
We'll keep you updated between North Dakota and Saint Thomas
of Minnesota. The winner gets North Dakota State tomorrow night.
Back to the NFL. Yeah, I I you know, I
don't know that there's a ton else to add. I mean,
ask Mary, where's the music go? We're still talking NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Well he did. It was funny because it came just
as you said, I don't know if there's a ton
else to add, and then the music space.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yeah, Mary, guess we're going to break No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I was just gonna say, I do think it is
an interesting thing about and this is the point that
you made to me off air, but that basically it
feels like the pressure is more on the coach in Baltimore. Yes,
the pressure is more on the quarterback Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Flip way, Yeah, yeah, it's more. The pressure is more
on the coach in Buffalo and the quarterback in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Yes. By the way, now now I am going to
do the hard pivot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
You know who the pressure is on, sort of some
dude from North Dakota who just got fouled with point
one seconds left. So Saint Thomas of Minnesota had the ball,
turned it over with eleven seconds left, they had the
ball fast break. North Dakota gets fouled and it was

(01:11:19):
a foul. By the way, it wasn't one of those like,
oh my god, we're gonna have a controversy over the
file calls. But with point one seconds left, North Dakota
is going to head to the file line with a
chance to head to their conference championship game. But yes,
to your point, to the point of this segment, I
think there's more pressure on the quarterback in Baltimore with

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Lamar Jackson, more pressure on the coach in Buffalo. But
I will say there is clearly it goes without saying
plenty of pressure on Josh Allen as well. Fox Sports
radio er Torris, Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
We're gonna come back. When we do, we will get
you the conclusion. That is a little bit less of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
A faul than I thought, but we'll get you the
conclusion of this North Dakota Saint Thomas game, although we
can probably just do it right now because North Dakota
is at the fall line. He made the first one
and it looks like we have an all North Dakota
final in the Summit League zero point one seconds left.
North Dakota has made a file shot. They will go

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to the Summit League championship game to play North Dakota State.
Fox Sports Radio Erra Towards Jason Martin will come back.
We will recap the Summit League semi finals and much
more in a busy day with Steve de Sager. Congrats
to North Dakota heading to the conference championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
That's that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin.
We are broadcasting live. I've from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
North Dakota State does hold on for a win. It's
like a little bit of a serious injury in the
BYU Texas Tech game kadem boop Hope. He's okay, real
quick to say before we get to you, I just

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want to share one thing I just saw on social
media because obviously not a topic that we've talked about
college basketball related today, but there is this continue talk
about expanding the NCAA tournament. We did talk a little
bit about Miami Ohio versus Auburn. Are you did you
see the stat that I'm going to reference, because no.

Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
But I think the whole Auburn Miami Ohio discussion is
just completely rihiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
All right, so we thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
What I'll say is this so Jeff Borzella, who works
for ESPN. He said of ESPN Joe Lonardi's last seven
at large teams and first five teams out of the
field nine were in action today Missouri, Texas, SMU, Indiana,
New Mexico, Auburn, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati col They went ohen

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oh my, so frikes for the expansionists. And by the way,
Miami Ohio obviously one didn't play today, but they don't
fall in that because right now they're in as the
automatic qualifier.

Speaker 7 (01:14:11):
So nobody wants slot sixty eight at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yes eventually, and the notion that we should house somehow,
we should somehow be leaving out thirty one to Ohero
teams for that, for that not good Disaga.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
The floor is yours, my friend.

Speaker 7 (01:14:28):
Arizona's back in the lead, second ranked, but they're only
leading sixty six to sixty four at Colorado with nine
minutes to go, and Byu has come back to take
the lead with under thirty seconds left against tenth ranked
Texas techs seventy eight seventy six. We do have more
college hoops to discuss. There is a game in the
World Baseball Classic going on right now. They've just started

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extra innings with South Korea tied four to four with
Taiwan on FS two. South Korea gave up the league,
giving up two in the top of the eighth, got
the tying run in the bottom of the eighth when
Dodger second basement Has Song Kim walked and wound up
scoring on a double. Kim played against Japan early this
morning our time in Tokyo and at the Tokyo Dome.

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That was another forty two thousand rowdy fans there, including
a surprising amount of Korean fans by the way, but
Japan won again eight six Seya Suzukia. The Cubs hit
two homers, the Dodger Shoheo Tani two hits, two walks,
including a solo homer, three run scored, and Boston's Masatake
Yoshida had a homer and three RBIs today. Kim, the

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Korean second baseman the Dodger, had a two run homer
today in the fourth, but he struck out three times,
including with bases loaded to in the top of the
eighth against Japan. And we did talk World Baseball Classic earlier.
We'll get to the US in a moment, but there's
just a stunning thing with Luis araaz Is, a guy

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who's with the Padres last year Giants now. A very
good hitter, to say the least career batting average three seven.
Recently in his career with three different major league teams,
he won a batting title three years in a row.
He is not at all a power hitter. The most
home runs he's ever hit in a major league season
is ten. Good hitter, not at all good power hitter,

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and yet two home runs for Venezuela tonight in their
win against Israel eleven three. Jason, this is another one
of those major league players. Oh, he's from Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
Ye.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
Turns out he had a multi homer game at the
last World Baseball Classic. Also this little infielder three years ago.
Both of those tournament games occurred in Miami, and the
great Baseball researcher Sarah Langs points out, in his entire
major and minor league career, he only has one multi

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homer game, two with his national team, one as a professional,
and it turns out all three of those events took
place in the same stadium in Miami. The Netherlands won
on a three run homer in the bottom of the
ninth by Ozzi Alby's of the Atlanta Braves, four to three.
Against Nicaragua. He had all four RBIs, including being hit

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by pitch with bases loaded in the third. Nicarago fourteen
men left on base. Attendance twenty nine thousand in Houston
today for Italy shutting out Brazil eight nothing. Brazil had
lost its opener to the Americans last night, fifteen to five.
If you didn't see it, let's just say they ran
out of pitching. Brazil's staff wound up walking seventeen. Aaron

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Judge last night hit a first inning homer. The Giant's
best pitcher, Logan Webb, got the win on Friday, four
innings of work. Pirates pitcher Paul Skens goes for the
US against Mexico Monday night on Fox TV. Tuesday's game
is US against Italy and we assume a quarterfinal for
the Americans next weekend. Tonight in Houston, team USA was
trailing Great Britain won nothing in the fifth. Trace Thompson,

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yes brother of Clay Thompson, an incredible catch over the
right field wall to rob Will Smith of a home
run and keep it a shutout. Halfway through the game,
Trek Scouoble, the Detroit Superstar pitcher in his one start
for the US in this tournament, allowed a home run
on the first pitch of the night. The rest of
the evening, though, Great Britain went two for twenty eight

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at the plate with seventeen strikeouts and no walks, and Schooble,
to say the least, settled down three innings, five strikeouts,
no walks. The win to Clay Holmes, who came on
after him three innings, scoreless, six strikeouts, nine to one.
US beats Great Britain Kyle Schwarber a two run homer.
Canada won its opener eight to two against Columbia, was

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four to two in the eighth the win to Mike
Soroka of Arizona exhib Atlanta. He went three innings. Pitcher
Hyung Jin, were you the former Dodger would do to
pitch this game that South Korea's got going right now
Against Taiwan, Reu went three innings with three strikeouts and
no walks. Chinese type hay as they're known, has taken
the lead in the tenth five over South Korea and

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Puerto Rico with two runs in the tenth. Boy, the
crowd's been great there as well, beat Panama four to three.
As for college hoops, yes, it is the final weekend
of the regular season for the men. The women's regular
season ended last Sunday for most teams unanimous number one,
Yukon ended up thirty one to Oh Well, they've now
won forty eight straight overall because they beat Georgetown eighty

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four to thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Today.

Speaker 7 (01:19:26):
Half of the women's conference tournaments are this week, so
now Connecticut against Big East teams and women's hoops well,
Yukon's won sixty eight straight and the final is sets
in the Conference Attorney in the Big Ten after UCLA
and Iowa got wins today, Iowa beat Michigan in a
top ten matchup fifty nine forty two. UCLA eliminated Ohio

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State and the SEC women's final will be number three
South Carolina against number four Texas as each one. Today,
South Carolina eliminated LSU stunningly. South Carolina's beaten l You
nineteen straight times.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Back to you the saga, thank you so much. Fox
Sports Radio erin tors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live. Yes,
we are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. One
hour left. We'll come back. We got a lot to discuss.
Some wild sound from Russell Westbrook. More football, more basketball.
Welcome in everybody, hour three tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio.

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We are broadcasting live. Yes, we are live here one
am Eastern Time. I guess when we go off air
at two, it just becomes three in some places. So
Bernie Fratto will be following us at the top of
this hour. It might be two, it might be three,
it might be one. I don't know what time of

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daylight Savings and By the way, Arizona doesn't have daylight savings,
so it's just gonna go back to being a Western
time zone anyway. Hope everybody's having a great evening erin
tors Jason Martin, we are here at one am Eastern time.
Bernie Frattle follows us, and it has been a busy
two hours here. We've talked a lot of college hoops,
we talked a busy weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
In the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Want to switch gears and get to an interesting development
in the NBA. Now, I'm gonna let Brandon Deutsch set
this sound up here in half a second because he
sent it along Russell Westbrook with the Sacramento Kings. He
is obviously at the tail end of his career. I
assume was brought to Sacramento to kind of help develop

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some of these young guys. Was not happy with some
stuff in the media, and so rather than me setting
up this sound, Brandon Brandon Deutsch producer.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Brandon follows the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Way closer than I do, and I don't want to
speak for j mart but I think so as well
give us a little context as to what we're about.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
To listen to.

Speaker 8 (01:21:47):
So the Kings had a historic losing streak. You probably
you guys probably know about that. They've they're the worst
team in the NBA this year, and there were some
critical writing pieces from journalists that cover the team. Beat
reporters right, the team's the worst in the NBA, probably
the worst team they've ever covered. And Russell Westbrook was
very sick and tired of hearing the I guess the

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about his younger teammates because he is a leader. They
said some words about young guys getting second chances and stuff,
and he was jaying at the reporters in something you
rarely ever see. So Mary, we can play that one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I'll always be talking.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Oh it's very interesting, nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:22:29):
No, you guys have a lot of opinions about how
we do what we're doing. What you got, Yeah, you
make a lot of statements and broad statements that you
have no contexts. So what do you get your context from?
Are you in practice anywhere around the building? No, I
haven't seen that practice. So the false context of and
actually do you know me? No, you don't know me.

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You don't know me. You don't know me, but you
make a lot of comments as though you do know me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
That was Russell Westbrook after the game. And this was
actually J Martin. I know you saw it because Brandon
sent it to both of us. It was about a
five minute clip. Now, I don't know if you have
anything to really add about this itself, but what I
will say is this, you and I have spent a
lot of time kind of talking about really this year.

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It just feels like the lebron era kind of just
needs to be over. Like we lived it. It was
awesome in the mid twenty tens, but it's like.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
It been there, done that got ta Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Exactly, And I will say the same Russell Westbrook will
be thirty eight in November, and listen, it was unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
We had the Okac years.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
You know, I thought he came out of the Durant
thing looking good, wins the MVP with the triple double.
I'm kind of over Russell Westbrook. And before we even
talk Westbrook, what we thought we would do, yeah, is
give you our mount rushmore of old NBA dudes that

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we are just so ready to get out of the league.
Right they had their moment in the sun. They're still here.
As J mart just said, We've been there, done that,
got the T shirt, got the phone fit. It's time
to go, and so we'll get to our Mount Rushmore
in a second. Before we get to it, Jmart, do

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you have anything specific about Westbrook or should we just
jump right into the Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
No, I mean your sentiment is right. It's just like, yes,
there have been some tough articles written by the Sacramento
media about an absolutely embarrassing basketball team. What exactly are
they supposed to do? Just not write anything because they're
certainly not going to write anything pleasant. I mean the

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team is all time bad. Like what, that's the problem.
It's don't get thin skinned because they have to write
the truth, like that's their job. Even if Russell Westbrook
has been playing well, what exactly are you accomplishing in
that moment. I'm not saying that he has. I'm just
saying that just belies like he's been Cantacris this whole career. Dude,

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I'm in an Oklahoma City Thunder fan. I'll be the
first to tell you it's just the way it is.
That's how he's wired. And that's one of the reasons
why he was so great for so long is because
he played with almost five chips on his shoulders, it
seemed like, but at times he could be his own
worst enemy. And here, it's like when you are at
this stage of your career and this is the decision

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that you have made. You're playing in Sacramento, and now
you're gonna start talking like no, like at this point,
no one wants to hear anything that you have to say,
Like now it's time just to shut up. Now it's
time to either just play basketball because you enjoy it,
or want to make a little bit more money before
you leave, or just go ahead and recede into the
rest of your life. You've got enough money to go

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do whatever it is that you want to do. But
this ain't it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Chief well, and I will say this as well, is
that there was a part of it that we didn't hear. Again,
it was a five minute piece of sound, so Brandon,
thank you for cutting that into a manageable forty seconds.
That definitely packed the punch of what we were looking for.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
But there was a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
In it where he said something about you know you
are you in our film session?

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
Are you in our building?

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
And it's like, dude, first of all, obviously no media
member is, and two, here is the other thing is
that the media has never been given less than they
are now. And this isn't gonna be like an old
school big Jay.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I missed the days when they were flying on the
plane with the team and smoking cigarettes in the hotel lobby.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
But like.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
We all work in the media, you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
You've never been able to get less from these athletes
than you do now. And listen, I understand the world changes,
athletes have more ways to get their message out than ever.
But that was kind of just a silly thing to
say as well. So anyway, we're beating around the bush. Yeah,
let's get to our Mount Rushmore of old dudes that
just need to go. I'll go first, j Mart he

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is the George Washington of this Mount Rushmore exactly. Well,
by the way, yes it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Is the chosen one.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I'm slapping dust in the air here was I hope
he disappears into a cloud of chalk dust here very soon.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
It's Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Listen, you tolerated him because he got you to the
finals in his prime every single year.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
But all this crap. The Lakers thing has largely been
a dud. I know they won the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Bubble Championship, but hand picking the coach, making them draft
your son, and I just go back to j Mart
a topic that I vividly remember us discussing last summer,
which was signs the fifty four million dollar extension, and
within minutes Rich Paul makes the statement of yeah, we

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really hope that they can build a championship team around Lebron.
You don't get to sign the fifty four million dollar
extension as a soon to be forty one year old
and then complain about the roster around you. It's not
twenty sixteen anymore, Lebron. It's time to go. He is
the George Washington put him on the mount rushmore of

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old guys that just need to be out of the
NBA at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
So I don't know which one I would say this
gentleman is. I'll say Jefferson just for the sake of argument.
It's time for Jmond Green to get out the lead.
Oh no, it's time for Jmond Green to honestly, don't
care what he goes and does. He's gonna keep doing
his podcast. He's probably gonna end up with a job

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of the Turner guys or whatever. I've had enough. They're
not winning championships in Golden State anymore. He hasn't been,
in my opinion, an asset to Steph Curry in the
last three or four years. He's still annoying on the
floor with his antics, but he's also not backing it
up and helping you out on the score sheet the

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same way that he used to. And I don't mean
as an offensive player, he's never really been that, but
just generally speaking, his negatives outweighs pros and he has
one of the biggest mouths in the league for no
apparent reason now. And the thing that's always bothered me
about Draymond Green is that if Draymond Green had been
drafted by the Orlando Magic originally, he never would have
had a platform to speak, He never would have had

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a championship to lean on, he never would have even
been talked about for the Hall of Fame. And he
will get in now, there is no question in my mind.
But he's gonna get in because of what was around
him more than anything else. Because despite how talented he
could be as a defender, as a rebounder, as a
physical force, all of those kinds of things, none of
that would have mattered if they didn't have the Splash

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Brothers out there, if they didn't have Andreyagoidala out there,
if they didn't have those guys coming off the bench
like Sean Livingston making big time shots. Draymond Green is
one of the most fortunate players I have ever seen
in the National Basketball Association. He's going to carry that
to the Hall of Fame. And he still can't shut
his mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
Draymond Green thirty six years old. He'll actually he just
turned thirty six, averaging a robust eight points and five
rebounds per game. This season's good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Golden State Warriors did fall on Saturday nights to the
Oklahoma City Thunder. All right, So you called Draymond the
Thomas Jefferson of our Mount Rushmore For people just joining us,
we use some Westbrooks sound to talk about our Mount
Rushmore of old guys that just needs to need to
leave the NBA. So I googled Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Yeah, you need to make sure, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
According to NPS dot Gov.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Theodore Roosevelt born in eighteen fifty eight died in nineteen nineteen.
Roosevelt provided leadership when America experienced extreme growth as it
entered the twentieth century.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
You know who you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
You know who never provided leadership ever?

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
The beard? Ye, James Harden. I am so over this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
He is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Listen, I'm surprised.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
You didn't make him Lincoln because of the beard.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
I probably should have thought it out more, but I
saw Jefferson or Theodore Roosevelt was known for his leadership,
and I just felt like it was the perfect segue
to just dog James Harden.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Listen, he won an MVP. He was a great scorer
in his prime.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):
He has never, at any moment in his time, contributed
to the highest level of winning. I know they've won
a lot of regular season games when he was in
Houston and Philadelphia. I don't want to call him a loser,
because by definition he isn't, but he's kind of a
loser everywhere he goes. He never gets along with anybody.

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Couldn't get along with Katie in Brooklyn. You know, he
had the situation in Houston where remember remember during COVID
when there were strict rules and he was trying to
get traded, so he was breaking the COVID guidelines to
get traded out of Houston. Goes to Brooklyn, is unhappy.
There goes to Philadelphia, calls Darryl Morey the worst human

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being in the world or whatever. Then he always so
happy in Los Angeles, it's his hometown. Clippers are red hot,
playing better than anybody. In twenty twenty six, demands a
trade to Cleveland. Get this guy out of And by
the way, how many Game sevens have you and I
been out?

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
I listen?

Speaker 2 (01:32:53):
Yeah, Arnie Spanner and I were on air for the
famous Game seven where he went like two for twenty two.
You and I were on for the Game seven last
year where I think he went two for thirteen through
Doc rivers under the bus one year when he went
two for whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Get him on, get him out of the league. I'm
just I'm done with this guy. I'm just done with him.
I'm just done with him.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
What do you want me to say?

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
I mean, I'm sorry. I just read it for like
eight minutes. I just he annoys me.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
So I'm torn. I've got a thirty five year old
and I've got a twenty six year old for.

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Your last spot. Yes, wow, twenty six year old. Oh,
I guess you know who I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Yeah, there's probably two guesses, but I don't know that
they're the same age. Saying that sad because like you
usually would go with the elder statesman here, but I'm
gonna go with John Morant. Okay, he's twenty six, his
skills have diminished, that he's gotten no better at anything,

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and he's become cancerous.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
I hope you don't have your address. He might actually
just show up to your house tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Look, man, I was a huge fan of him coming
out of college. I said he would have a better
pro career than Zion, who also could have gone with here,
by the way, But just everything that he's done has
submarined him, and like whatever cham takes a chance on him.
Do we feel like the maturity's there? Do we feel
like he's finally going to grow up? Do we feel

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like he's got the right people around him that are
not just yes men that are enabling bad behavior or
even bad attitude, and just trying to truly help him
and love on him in the right way. I can't
say that I believe in that, So I'm going to
let him eke out a spot here just in that
I feel like for the betterment of his own life,

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he might need to get out of the league.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
So, first of all, when he said twenty six, I
did think you were gonna go with my birthday buddy,
Zion Williamson yep, who has the same birthdate as me,
many years apart. He also made his summer league debut
where he got his first NBA injury on the night
of my wedding, so that that's a fun memory that
I have of his debut and my wedding. But yeah,
I'm glad you didn't go with Zion because I wasn't

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ready for that. I will say this, I will put
Westbrook as my fourth guy.

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
And I forgot because we already talked about it. I
didn't realize that he wasn't actually on the list.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
Well, he probably was.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
You can you can put job Morant back in the
league again, for your own safety.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
I think it might be good that you just do that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
But actually, you know what, I'll remove him and go
with the other guy that I was gonna go with,
and it still wasn't Westbrook, and this would make it
more of an age thing. Sure, Paul George. Paul George
is a role player right now, But Paul George wants
to be a podcaster. Yes, even at this stage, it's
a horrible contract that he that that they've got him

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with in Philadelphia. And by the way, what's a uh,
what's a trend here? Harden, Paul George, Russell Westbrook. That's
three of them, at least I can't remember. Now he's
a fourth. Oh yeah, it was uh Draymond my guy.
What's the common thread between the other three guys? Outside

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of Draymond?

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
They were both Clippers, they were both mem they were
all they were members of the Thunder at some point
they were all Thunder players to that's where I thought
you were going to then Oh my goodness, No, I
was thinking about the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Yeah, I will tell you, yes, you're right. I'll be quick.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
So I will put Westbrook as my fourth guy, even
though he was really the first guy. Listen, we loved
the passion, but the passion now just is like anger.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
I was thinking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
It's not a perfect analogy because like his team is
playing pretty well now. But ironically, because Russell Westbrook went
to UCLA, it's almost like the Mick Cronin of like
the the Angry Press conferences are kind of fun when
you're like twenty eight and five and you're a one seed.
When you're on the bubble and getting your brains beat in,

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it's not cute to go to press conferences and be
like whining about everything. And that was where we got
with Mick Cronin for a while a get into his
team's credit. They're actually playing pretty well down the stretch.
But it's the same with Westbrook, Like it's cute to
barkt the media and do whatever when you're averaging a
triple double and you can say what you want. But
now you're just kind of the old guy. Your team stinks, Westbrook.

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We appreciate everything that you did for us once upon
a time, but it's time to go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
So a lot of old guys need to get out
of the league.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
My Mount Rushmore of old guys that just need to
be gone. Lebron, James Hard, Draymond and Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
Has Ben Simons still in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
He's not. Isn't he trying to get into like professional fishing?
I saw, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thing. Oh, it's
a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Good for him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:51):
So if we do our professional fishing mount Rushmore of
guys that annoy us.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
I think Ben Simmons is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
Gonn You know what's stunning. Kyrie Irving because of how
he played in Dallas has played himself right off the
Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I was thinking about that as we were discussing, like,
I think Anthony Davis is honorable mention, but I don't
really have the anger for him because he just keeps
getting hurt tray.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
He doesn't say or do anything annoying. He's just not reliable.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Yes, remember when it was like a semi controversy that
Charles Barkley called him street clothes and like people got
mad for like a day and then it was like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Yeah, but it's kind of the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yes, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
Fox Sports Radio Eric Toords Jason Martin broadcasting live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. That was a fun little
segment we had, was all right, well come back, we
just talked about washed up old NBA players there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
Dwight too, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Embiid was one that I was thinking about.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Actually, yeah, well, I mean Embiide is not at least
Embiid's not a thousand years old. But Dwight Howard is
still in the lead.

Speaker 3 (01:39:00):
Right, No, No, he's not.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
He's not. I thought I saw him on the sidelines
of something else. They're like, here's blah blah blah player
Dwight Howard. And I thought that, and I thought he
was out of the league. I hope he is out
of the league. He should be out of the league,
all right. They're calling him former NBA legend now in articles.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
I'm saying, so, okay, I don't know how to say
it delicately, but he had a very unfortunate unique Yeah,
sexual assault allegation.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
That yeah, kind of derailed everything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Do you really you know, I don't know that you're
rushing to bring that guy back into the locker room
in a situation like that. So Dwight Howard out of
the league. But yeah, that is our mount Rushmore.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
And I used to be known for talking about people
and not realize and saying they were dead when they weren't.
You were, I was just accident. I did it like
three four times. It would just be somebody I was
sure was dead that was not sure, and it turned
into a thing. So now I'm going in the opposite direction.
Now I'm basically keeping people in the NBA that are

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already out of it and saying this person should be
out of the NBA. And it's like, oh yeah, no,
time actually beat me to it. It actually happened already.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
He's no longer eligible for the Mount Rushmore because he
stinks and just doesn't play in the NBA. So Fox
Sports Radio errators Jason Martin will come back and we'll
go from guys that need to be out of the
NBA to uh guy that might be out of the NFL.
Here pretty soon Kyler Murray. Does he find a home
and how long does he last? We'll discuss that next.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
To Sega. What is trending here at one thirty East?

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
Well, the Big College basketball game at Colorado did go
to number two Arizona, although it trailed by eleven in
the first half. Wildcats win eighty nine to seventy nine
to go sixteen and two. In Big Twelve play BYU
trailed at home but still beat number ten Texas Tech
eighty two to seventy six. Marquette upset Number four Yukon

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sixty eight sixty two. Number one Duke beat North Carolina
seventy six sixty one. Wisconsin won at Purdue. Arkansas won
in overtime at Missouri Louisville, a winner at Miami. Vanderbilt
won at Tennessee. George Mason upset number twenty five Saint
louis The Ohio Valley Conference championship game tonight went to
Tennessee State. Long Island got the NCAA bid in the

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Northeast Conference just by winning its conference semifinal. Its opponent
in the final, Mercyhurst, is still in the four year
transition to Division one and not eligible for the dance
selection Sunday for the NCAA Men's Tournament a week from Sunday.
The women's regular season ended last Sunday. For most teams,
unanimous number one Yukon has now won forty eight straight

(01:42:25):
overall after beating Georgetown eighty four to thirty nine today
in the SEC semifinals, wins for number three South Carolina
and number four Texas Big Ten Women's semifinal wins for
UCLA and Iowa. In the NHL, Buffalo won at six
straight and the Islanders got another overtime victory two to
one at San Jose.

Speaker 4 (01:42:44):
The forty nine.

Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Ers gave kicker Eddie Pinero a four year contract. The
Chargers re signed linebacker Khalil Mack. Green Bay acquired linebacker
Zaire Franklin from the Colts. The Eagles gave defensive tackle
Jordan Davis a three year extension. Joey Logano earned the
poll for Sunday's NASCAR race in Phoenix. There was an
Indy Car event there on the track in Phoenix. Joseph

(01:43:05):
Newgarden won that. Rory mcelwoy withdrew from the Arnold Palmer
Invitational in Orlando due to backspasms. US women's soccer went
three and oh this past week, taking the annual She
Believes Tournament, winning in New Jersey today with a late
goal one nothing against Columbia in Major League Soccer. DC
United's game was held in Baltimore at the Ravens Stadium

(01:43:27):
attend and seventy two thousand as Miami with a goal
by Lionel Messi won two to one over DC. Colorado
beat the LA Galaxy four to one, and at Yankee Stadium,
New York City shutout Orlando five to nothing. Cleveland Cavaliers
star Donovan Mitchell, as probable to return on Sundays, miss
the last four games with a groin injury. The late

(01:43:48):
game in the NBA tonight at Oklahoma City went to
the thunder now fifty and fifteen after beating Golden State
one oh four to ninety seven. Shay Gilgess Alexander twenty
seven points at Milwaukee, jannisonte Nakoumpa with twenty seven points
in twenty seven minutes on the court in a win
against Utah Clippers edge Memphis Kawhi Leonard twenty eight points
in twenty eight minutes. Atlanta won at sixth in a

(01:44:10):
row Orlando a winner, and Brooklyn was down seventeen early
fourth quarter and still won at Detroit one oh seven,
one oh five and in a close game, the nets
On free throws made twenty seven of twenty eight. Piston
star Kate Cunningham was out with a bruce quad At
the World Baseball Classic, Taiwan won the late night game
in ten innings, beating South Korea five to four. Team

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USA in Houston again actually trailed Great Britain won nothing
in the fifth but beat him nine to one Kyle
Schwarber a two run homer. Netherlands won on a three
run homer bottom of the ninth by Ozzy Albi's the
Braves to beat Nicaragua Puerto Rico with two in the
tenth edge Panama and two notes on college basketball. As
the seasons winding down for so many, Texas, A and

(01:44:56):
M in triple overtime came back to win at LSU
ninety four one. LSU finishes three and fifteen and the
seed in conference play. The SEC Network says LSU is
now the only team in that conference the last fifteen
years to blow three different fifteen point leads in a
single season. And there was a game at Ducane today

(01:45:17):
in the Atlantic ten. The home team down it was
twenty one at half, still won on a tip in
at the Buzzer seventy nine seventy seven against Richmond turns out,
the NCAA says, with five and a half minutes left
in this first half, Ducaine was trailing forty to ten
yep and still won the game. In NCAA Division One

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men's history, only three other teams had been down thirty
and come back to win the game. One of those
was Rick Patino's Kentucky team in a famed nineteen ninety
four game down thirty one and still beat LSU with
Tony Delk, Walter McCarty and Travis Ford, the Marty Gras miracle.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager to Saga,
have a great evening, be back tomorrow, I assume with
the fellas he from and Mark Willard, Arnie Spaniard and
Chris Plank, Fox Sports Radio enter towards Jason Martin.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
We are taking it till two a m.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Eastern time, which becomes three am very quickly with daylight savings.
Bernie Frattle will follow us. J Martin mentioned it before
the break. Do want to talk quickly about more football
if you missed an hour or two.

Speaker 3 (01:46:27):
We talked a little bit about the Max Crosby trade.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
We talked a little bit about the UH, talked a
little bit about the h DJ Moore trade, and of
course Trent mcduffee becoming a Los Angeles Ram very quickly.
One guy who is looking for a home right now.
Kyler Murray no longer a member of the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
He is a free agent. He was released, a lot
of injuries. All of that. I bring it up.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Albert Breer is reporting that there is interest from the
Colts and the Vikings. But I really thought about it
this week, and you know, I saw some stuff where
basically the Oakland Athletics or whatever they are now, the
Sacramento Athletics, Vegas Athletics, whatever, said that, you know, Kyler
Murray's always welcome to come back to baseball. Of course,

(01:47:19):
they drafted him in the first round out of Oklahoma.
I don't know what Kyler Murray wants to do with
the rest of his career, and I certainly think he
will be playing in the NFL in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
I really think there's a world where if he's so.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Inclined and if he's interested a year from now, we're
not talking about a potential NFL team, but potentially could
he be in spring training at this time next year.
I don't think it's crazy now. I don't think it's
like eighty twenty that he's playing baseball next year. But
I don't think there's a zero percent chance that this
time next year, Kyler Murray is out of the NFL

(01:47:56):
giving baseball shot.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
I mean, I think that's a really interesting take. I
hadn't even really thought of it until you mentioned it
earlier when we were chatting, And there's definitely some logic
behind it. The only thing that I would say, not
to refute it, but just to kind of like scratch
my head and say, I don't know how that would
work out is the thing that he was knocked for
was not being dialed in for seventeen weeks, like having

(01:48:22):
trouble and having to stay off a call of duty.
And we all remember how this played out for a
couple of years, and from all indications, he had tried
a lot harder. Right, Baseball is a long, long season, sure,
and so he would then be taking what was a
much shorter timeframe and extending it out. Now, is he

(01:48:44):
likely to stay healthier there? Yes? And we already knew
how talented he was a baseball as well. Maybe he
at that point is just like you know what, I'm
getting tired of getting knocked on my rear at my size.
Maybe I'll just go do this. I can see it
from that perconcive. I just don't know how much better
it would go if he doesn't want to commit to

(01:49:05):
you know, April through at least September with one hundred
and sixty two game. I mean, that's a lot for
somebody that's used to doing so much less than that
and has been knocked kind of for his diligence and
accountability when it comes to those things, at least in
the past. That would be my only concern about it

(01:49:26):
from the outside looking in. But I would say from
our perspective, I'd like to see it because it would
be a The curiosity factor would be off the charts
to see what that could look like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Yeah, and to be clear, he is going to get
this year. I just I don't know that there's anything
long term. And I mean you even look at those options,
you know, the Viking The Vikings are so.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Weird because like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
I don't know, I mean, they're clearly looking for They're
they're saying they want to create competition for JJ McCarthy.
They clearly don't believe in him, but them, the Colts whatever,
like it's just I don't know, and it's just I'll
say this is like it's funny. There's you know, there's
kind of a saying in our business that like there's
no wrong takes it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Sometimes it just takes a while.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
And it's like I remember having these debates with Arnie
Spaniard when all this stuff popped up, cause you know,
and I think it's easy to forget this now, but
like people forget this. I think j mart is that
going into Kyler Murray's essentially his only season playing football
at Oklahoma, like it was understood, oh, he's doing this
to kind of, you know, fulfill the lifelong dream play

(01:50:38):
major college football. He had transferred Oklahoma, but it was
understood like, oh, he's been drafted by the A's and
this is his last year of football and he's going
to baseball. And then he was of course so good
that he ended up being the number one pick in
the draft. But like the plan all along was to
play one more year of football and then go to baseball.
And so I just bring it up because one he's

(01:50:59):
already sort of exceeded the expectations when he was in college.
But two, I just go back to when he was
at Oklahoma. I just didn't know how he was going
to be able to hold up, frankly, even as long
as he has playing playing in the NFL, and I
just think, you know, the injuries are starting to pile up.
He's now twenty eight years old, so maybe that's something

(01:51:22):
that would be working against him to try to make
a run at baseball, as he's just much, you know,
kind of advanced in his career. But I just I
just don't see the like I'm saying a lot of
words here, saw shut up and throw it back to you,
But like, I don't see the world where he goes
somewhere else this year and is so awesome that it's like, oh, yeah,
he's clearly the answer for them for the next four.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Years, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
Yeah, No, I agree with you. I mean, I didn't
think the market would be that big for him because
I mean, look, Jacoby Brissette basically took his job. Yeah,
and we're talking about Jacoby Brissett here, not Josh Allen.
Look nothing against what we saw Jacobe do last year.
I mean, and he's been good for a long time
in terms of being able to step in on a

(01:52:07):
limited basis. But this was obviously the most sustained we've
seen him play really really well, and he did a
great job. But like Kyler, Murray is not the answer
for anybody, and I think that they all know that
your point about Minnesota notwithstanding, I mean, they're looking for
anything other than JJ McCarthy. It seems the boy what
a rough life for them right now, watching Sam Donald

(01:52:28):
go win a super Bowl while they're sitting there. They
aren't sure they have a quarterback at all, and so
you're looking at that, and then the Colts are just
trying to find somebody to maybe get them back to
Daniel Jones. I don't even know at this point, but
I also heard that, you know, the Vikings were looking
at Anthony Richardson and like, so there's all these other
names just the it's not even really the baggage. It's

(01:52:52):
just he gets hurt a lot. He's got a lot
of highs and lows. He makes some plays that just
absolutely make you almost do jumping jacks. They're just absolutely
outrageously exciting. It's like nobody can make those plays. And
he has done that a few times in his career.
So he's got that in him, but then he's got
a lot of turnovers in him. He can have a

(01:53:12):
you know, subpar attitude from Tom to Tom when things
aren't going well. Especially so there's not like you use
the word robust to describe something else earlier. There's not
like a robust like teams are not beating down the
door to find Kyler Murray. There might be somebody out
there that thinks they can be the one that fixes him.
They're the one that can really get through to him

(01:53:35):
and maximize his talent. But I agree, I think that
even if he does not go play baseball, I'd be
surprised if Kyler Murray is in the league in four years.
I think you said four three, four years. I think
it's very likely he's not any NFL. And regardless if
he ever went and played baseball or not.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Yeah, and we got to get to break But one
thing I would say, you use the name Sam Darnold
for obvious reasons, and it references the Vikings like I
don't think it is Kyler Murray goes to the Vikings
next year and then gets a completely new lease on life.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
This is not the Geno Smith and Seattle thing either
bingo so.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
Of course, that means tomorrow's Monday. Yes it is, and
in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
Oh no, I had to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
Gotta talk about it, Jay mart.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
Last Monday, the Atlanta Hawks stole a bit from the
odd couple.

Speaker 3 (01:55:42):
Fox Sports Radio Rob Parker.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Created Magic City Monday, like eight years ago or whatever.
J Mark, I know you're a religious man. I know
you probably I would assume, have never been to a
strip club, Like in a serious way.

Speaker 3 (01:56:02):
Was it outrageous to you?

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Was it just kind of like roll your eyes? Was
it embarrassing?

Speaker 4 (01:56:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
And I'm being serious, and I hope it doesn't come
off as I'm being sarcastic. I know that this isn't
something you approve of. I'm just kind of curious to
what the scale you would say of the Atlanta Hawks
promoting a strip club at their game last Monday.

Speaker 4 (01:56:30):
Look, man, are are all the Atlanta Hawks fans you
know twenty plus years old?

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
No, No, that's that's my that would be my issue too,
But keep going.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
That's I mean, that's that's really it, right, Like obviously, yes,
from my from my standpoint, there's definitely a big concern there.
But without even getting into that side of it, just
the sheer idea that the NBA is supposed to be
a family product, yes, would tell me this is not

(01:57:10):
a good look. It's just a bad idea. Like I know,
and I even saw the comments or the articles like
Killer Mike and some of these people have come out
and told people to shut up about this, and you know,
you don't understand and all this, like no, no, look,
it's a strip club and you've got kids in the crowd,
and those are conversations that parents should not be forced

(01:57:32):
to have with their children. They should not have to
address what that is if their kid asks them what
it is? Now, could you lie? Yes? Should you ever
lie to your lie to your kid? I hope not.
I hope you can find a way around that. But
like I just kind of look at it. It's it's
not really an eye roll. I don't think that's quite enough.
It's really just a oh, that's kind of my response,

(01:57:52):
just like, Okay, that's gross. It's not something that I'm
going to go write five thousand words on or any
like that, because I understand that honestly, the less you
talk about it, it's not going to get that much play.
Like it's not it's not it's not big enough to
carry the day, especially with what's going on globally and
everything else. So in the grand scheme of things, it's

(01:58:16):
not the end of the world. But it's just another
one of those deals in culture where it's like, is
there any dignity left for children? Social media and everything
has stripped so much innocence away because they can't avoid it.
And now let's go to an NBA game. Oh, they're
honoring a strip club tonight. It's just to me, that's
kind of disgusting.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
So I don't really have like a ton to add
all I will say when I first heard it, you know, one,
I obviously no sarcasm. Did think of the odd couple
because you know, Rob Parker, you know, has kind of
made that one of his bits, and I love Rob
and you know he's hysterical, and I really had no
real problem with it. And then I did think, like,
if you were the NBA and you are hemorrhaging fans literally, I.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
You're now putting parents in.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
A situation where they just say, even if I wanted
to go to that game, forget the fact that the
Hawks stink and you're probably not bringing your kids on
a Monday night anyway during the school year, but like,
it's just one more reason not to show up to
the arena. And I guess the counter would be, well,
maybe you'll bring in, you know, some percentage of a
crowd that wouldn't come otherwise. But I guess that's my

(01:59:26):
only thing is I don't like, I'm not like appalled
by it, Like I'm not gonna do the whole like, oh,
it's so offensive to women and this and that and
like whatever, And if that's your opinion, like Luke Cornette,
then that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
I have no problem with it. But like to me,
I think that's my.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Bigger thing is in a world where we know where
the demographics are going with the NBA. Didn't think it
was a great look. You know, it was a great
look though this show, Jmart Awesome Show had a blast.
If you missed any of today's show, make sure to
download the podcast. We talked college hoops heading into the
final weekend of the season. We talked Max Crosby, we
talked Kyler Murray, we talked NBA, and we talked Magic

(02:00:05):
City Monday. Coming up next, Bernie Fratto of The Bernie
Fratto Show. Cannot wait to hear what he has to
say about a busy week in sports. We'll see you
next week.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
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