Aaron Torres & Jason Martin Talk NCAA College Football, NFL Week 11, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Don't listening the Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome man, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Saturday Air, Torris,
Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. It is that time, beautiful Saturday. You know,
Jay mart last couple Saturdays. Now, admittedly, we were on

(00:25):
Game seven of the World Series two weeks ago, so
forgive us for not talking to a lot of college football.
But last week, you know, it just was what are
we gonna talk about? Well tonight, top ten win for
Georgia over Texas, which is not quite official but basically official,
the upset in Tuscaloosa, Oklahoma beating Alabama Texas A and

(00:46):
M biggest comeback in school history. USC wins to quietly
keep themselves in the playoff picture, Notre Dame as a
top ten or excuse to be a top twenty five win.
James Franklin may have a new job. And oh, by
the way, we have the best NFL slate we've had
in probably weeks. So I guess what I'm asking you

(01:06):
is you're ready to buckle it and talk some ball?
J mart read, buckle it and talk some ball.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Or what you know? I don't care about football?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Oh, you want to talk to you ukon beating Pyu
in Boston. Okay, we could do that for three hours.
I haven't nothing but time.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Whatever man like, sports is sports now, I'm just kidding.
There's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Funny you like. He sounded like, whatever, man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Sports tonight, tonight, my tonight with my family, we watched
our youngest daughter walk. Oh so it's kind of hard
to care. Just a great moment. We've been waiting on it.
We knew there were breakthroughs, and she was so proud
of herself, and when she realized that she could do it,
she was just all over the place, going to mommy,

(01:51):
going to daddy, going to her sister. And this was
happening right as Georgia and Texas was beginning. So I
missed probably the first ten to eleven minutes. Is we
were just having that moment. You know, this is our
youngest and it's our last unless we choose to adopt
later on in life, and so this is the last
chance we're gonna see one of our children walk. So

(02:14):
it's not to overshadow the football because everything you just
said is a million percent true. And yeah, of course
I'm geekd to talk about it over the next three hours.
But things got put in perspective for me tonight when
the Lord showed me my daughter walking and smiling. That
just kind of dwarfed all of what was going on
on what was an excellent saturday, all.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Right, So before we get to college football. Number one thing,
was big sister there to react? Was she in the room?
Was she around? Was she asleep? What was going on?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah? She was there every she was awake still, and
it is one of those nights. She was very tired
and we were about to put her down and my
wife wasn't feeling particularly well either. It was just one
of those nights, and the Lord was just kind of like,
you know what, We're going to end this one a
different way. And yeah, so she she first I just
kind of let her. I say, hey, can you walk

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to mommy? And I was just kind of holding her,
and then I just sort of let her go and
she took those four steps and she she landed at mommy,
and then from then on it was she went for everything.
And then her her older sister, just wanted her to
walk to her and just wanted her to walk and
walk and walk and walk, and watched her walk in
her room and all sorts of it was. Uh, it

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was pretty phenomenal. Man. No interceptions, there were no flags
on the field, nothing was going on, no big time comebacks, nothing,
nothing like that. Just just perfection. So now now we
await these scholarship offers that are sure to come for her.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
There you go, I love it. Well, congratulations to your family.
I'm glad you guys had a great night. And yeah,
we're very happy to hear that, and we're very happy
to stay.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
We better than Texas by the way.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say. Georgia has been walking
into the end zone all game wrong in this one,
so it is not quite final final. It is thirty
five to ten, though Texas has the ball here. A
couple thoughts here. Georgia really pulls away late here twenty
one points in the fourth quarter. But even before they

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went on the twenty one point barrage here in the
fourth quarter, and it is final now, Georgia has won
thirty five to ten. So even before Georgia pulled away,
it felt like they were in complete control. It never
felt like they were gonna lose. But then the series
and you and I were texting about this I assume
it was after the little Ones went down. Yes, you know,

(04:44):
Kirby Smart. Kirby Smart called game a series middle or
early fourth quarter, goes for it on fourth down twice,
ends up getting the touchdown, and then, oh, by the way,
the ensuing kickoff on side I kick. No one saw
it come in recovered by Georgia. I don't know if

(05:05):
he saw this in real time. The guy who recovered
it from Georgia, Yeah, was so happy that he didn't
even realize, Oh, I could just run this thing into
the end zone and he starts celebrating about five yards
beyond you know, everybody else. His teammate kind of gets
him down. But those were the two key plays. Obviously,
Georgia was able to score after that to seal the victory.
But Kirby Smart, man, you know, I can't. I don't

(05:29):
really know where you've stood on Georgia. I've been more
critical of how they've won of these big rallies, and
at some point, you know, a lot of big rallies
resulted into just big wins. They really turned a corner
last week against Mississippi State, and listen, they have wins
over Tennessee and Ole Miss but the manner in which
they did this tonight, I think is as impressive as

(05:51):
anything we've seen from Georgia.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Absolutely. I mean I sent a text to you and
I was just like, man, Kirby Smart's just better than you,
Like whoever you are in the country, he's just better
than you. Right now he hadn't played Signetty so that
so we can kind of act like both of them
are better than you. But Kirby Smart just does the
thing like you called it, he called game like this
thing was kind of close for comfort, despite the fact

(06:13):
it felt like Georgia was in complete control, but it
was in a kind of a dangerous mode. And Kirby
Smart just said enough, That's really what he said. He's
just like, no, enough, We're done. We're done here. And
then they blew them out, like not only did Texas
not get the ball back and score, they lost the
on side and then Georgia scored again. Georgia just put

(06:36):
them in the ground, like just basically they could not
respond to it. It didn't matter. Like by the time
they got the ball, it was already over and you
could just see it. They had no answer, they had nothing,
and the defense had played really well for Texas in
the first half of a game, and they were in
position to where, yeah, if they could turn it up
a little bit more on offense, they had a shot.

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But Kirby Smart just wasn't going to allow it. And
there's so many coaches that go to bed after a
game like that with regret by not being aggressive and
finding way to lose a game like that, and Kirby
Smart just doesn't do that. Like Kirby Smart was uber,
he reminded me a lot just because it's an on
side maybe it reminds me of this the onside kick

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in the Super Bowl with the Saints and the Colts
where Sean Payton came out and they the on side
got it and scored and of course the Saints ended
up winning the game. That takes guts man like it
really really does. It also takes just craftiness and a
belief in your own skill talent, a belief in your
own guys, a belief that they can execute something like

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that and end up making you look like a genius.
And obviously, in Sean Payton's case, it led to a
Super Bowl, and in Kirby Smart's case, we don't know
how this is going to end in terms of the season,
but man, like what a The game ended on the
on side kick and it was just all aggression fourth
downs against a good defense in Texas. No gun or

(08:03):
just go get it, and he did both times and
the end up scoring the touchdown. I have been critical
of Georgia this year. I've kind of like, yeah, you
know they're winning, but I don't know how good they
really are. And then you watch this and you're just like,
but they've got that coach too, Like, who's going to
count them out of any game? Like they've kind of

(08:24):
eked out a few victories, but they've won all those games,
like they've lost one, But who is going to say
that they can't win the National Championship When you watched
calls like that and execution like that in crunch time well.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
And the other thing too. All of that plus on
top of it, they were just awesome on both sides
of the ball. It held Texas to twenty three yards
rushing on seventeen carries. Now, I know Texas has struggled
all season long to run the football, but I don't
think we should also just complete it just because Texas
has struggled. I don't think we should dismiss how good

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that Georgia was against the run. They also had three
sacks of Arch seven TFLs. You and I were text
a little bit about Arch. He missed some throws, but man,
he had a lot of pressure on him throughout the game.
By the way, hit some receivers in the hands early.
You know, we could talk Arch if you want. I
don't really care. I don't think this loss had anything

(09:17):
to do with him. I think it had much more
to do with Georgia just being awesome across the board.
And yeah, I think it's exactly what you said. Is
I was thinking about it watching the game. Is that
for people who don't know all the semantics, right, Texas
A and M wins today, even with Alabama's loss, they
have the head to head win over Georgia. Those are
the two teams right now projected to go to the

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SEC Championship game. I don't really care. I am with you.
I think when you start looking at teams that could
play with and beat anybody, I think Georgia's right there
at the top. That's what tonight showed me is I
think Texas is a really good team. We could talk
about Texas in a half a second. But to me,
this was Georgia's night, Georgia's moment.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
They it's weird to say they bailed water or whatever
you want to call barely holding on against Tennessee and
Ole Miss, but they did what they had to do
to put themselves in position. Now it just feels like
they're peaking at the right time.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I mean, I think that's right. They're very much
not just in the mix obviously for the playoff, but
they're in the mix for winning at all. The only
thing that you want to see is more consistency on
offense when you don't have to have it, like a
lot of what they end up having to do is
because they're a little slow or they have these lulls.

(10:31):
They're not going to be able to afford that against
some of the teams that they're going to see in
the College Football Playoff. But if they can bring that,
if they can just kind of be a little more
consistent for four quarters on the offensive side of the ball,
I don't know. I don't know why you would bet
against them. I'm not saying they're the best team in
the country, but I still am. We're going to have

(10:54):
that conversation anyway, I think they can beat the best
team in the country on the right day. For sure,
think they beat the best team in the country. And
luckily we're in a system now where we're going to
be able to see that. But it was really impressive
and just quickly on Arch. It wasn't all on Arch certainly. Yeah,
he missed some throws. He missed a couple of big
time third downs, and his interception was a bat thrower

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where he just overthrew his target. But he had a
lot of guys dropping balls, and his offensive line could
not give him protection consistently all night long. He couldn't
run the ball at all because there was no space.
Texas came really run it particularly well because they haven't
had space. This offensive line is just flat out not good.
There was a stat I have it in front of me.
I have to find it when we come back to
this later on about what the defense did through the

(11:39):
first eight games of the season last year compared to
what they've done in the first eight games of this season.
It is just night and day in terms of what
quarterbacks have been able to do against them, particularly how
many points, how many yards they've given up so you
cannot throw it all on arch. A lot of people
are going to do that. I do not watch this

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and think that the take coming out of this is
man the quarterback stakes. I think that's just flat out lazy,
real quick.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
On Texas, I think, and I think it was fair.
I think there was a narrative of if any team
like basically Texas final three tonight against Georgia Arkansas at home,
and then A and M at home to end the
regular season, so you have two top ten teams, you know,
assuming Texas A and M did what they had to do,
two top ten teams in the final three weeks, and

(12:29):
I think there was a narrative that Texas was seven
and two coming in. If you split the two Georgia
and A and M. Probably you could, in theory be
if there was ever going to be a three loss
team to get in, it would be Texas. And Follower
actually talked about this a little bit on the broadcast today,

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and the argument would be you'd either have a win
over Georgia or Texas A and M, and then you
did have a win earlier in the year against Oklahoma.
I do think that based on the other results today,
Oklahoma wins. They are now wins against you know, home
games against LSU and Missouri away from a ten to
two season. But Oklahoma wins, Ole, miss wins, A and

(13:11):
M wins. Even with Alabama's loss, I think there are
too many teams ahead of them in the SEC. Let
alone the fact that the Big Ten has what I
think four or five. I think they have five teams
now with zero, one or two losses if you include
Michigan and USC alongside Ohio State, Indiana and Oregon. Notre

(13:32):
Dame has two losses. This is all a long winded
way of me saying I don't know if you've even
had time to think about it or consider it where
I did. I did understand the argument of a three
loss Texas team, but I think it's not only that
Texas did not win today, but the results that they
probably needed did not work in their favor. Even if

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they beat A and M, I think three losses, they're
probably pretty much eliminated at this point.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, so here's my thought on it. And I did
actually think about it. When this game was clearly determined.
I said, they're just They're not a team I want
to see in a college football playoff that's my takeaway
from it. Like all of what you just said is
the nuts and bolts. Those are the facts. This is
just me from what I've seen this season. I just

(14:17):
don't think they look like a playoff team to me.
I don't think that they have proven that they deserve
an opportunity to play in a college football playoff. I
don't care who they've played and who they've lost to
and all this stuff, that defense and that offensive line,
and just they just haven't been good. The story about
them throughout the course of the year has not been
a positive one. I do not look at them and

(14:38):
say that they have earned the right, and I really
just don't want to see it. I'd rather somebody else
get an opportunity rather than just putting them in because
of where they were ranked at the beginning of the season.
I just I don't think they've distinguished themselves as a
team worthy of a college football playoff spot.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
The other thing that's going to work against them, they
will obviously have, you know, either the worst loss or
one of the worst losses of any team in playoff
consideration with the Florida loss on the road, and by
the way, I think that kind of proves a point
I was thinking about this right now. Is Texas four
road games in the SEC, lost to a really bad
Florida team, overtime when against Kentucky, overtime win against Mississippi State,

(15:18):
blown out by Georgia tonight. So I think it does.
I think the bottom line is I think this has
basically eliminated them. And to your point, I think all
of these teams that are in contention have a look
and I don't think Texas has it. So Fox Sports
Radio arators, Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. We will come back. One of

(15:40):
the results that does impact Texas's standing is Oklahoma going
to Bama. By now, you know they won. Was it
pretty for Oklahoma? But they're nine eight and two, excuse me,
and very much in the playoff picture. What does it
mean for them as importantly, what does it mean for Bama?
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number twelve in the country and college football, and a
notable late college basketball score in overtime Minnesota and Doug
Gottlieb's Green Bay Phoenix. Green Bay trailing by two in
the barn in Minneapolis, trying to pull off an upset
over a top ten team. So we are monitoring our friend,

(17:38):
our colleague, Doug Gottlieb squad as they go for the
upset in Minneapolis. Speaking of upsets, Jay Mart, let me
actually actually ask you this, because Oklahoma beats Alabama twenty
three to twenty one. I want to break it all down.
I will say I will give the general public credit

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because it felt like this was kind of a game
that everybody had circled. Now, if you watch the game,
Alabama a significant yardage differential, that Oklahoma certainly took advantage
of three Alabama turnovers, including a pick six, But I

(18:19):
will say I'll give the public a little bit of credit.
It felt to me like this was one that people
had circled. Alabama. The offense hasn't really been clicking for
about two three games now. They get by LSU at
home last week, but Oklahoma pulls off the upset one.
I guess the point I'm trying to ask you the
question I'm trying to ask you, did you see the
world where this was coming, because it did feel like

(18:41):
over the course of the week a semi trendy upset pick.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
I don't know that I saw it coming. I'm not
shocked buy it just because of what we have seen
and what you just laid out. I mean, look, they
beat number five Georgia, then number sixteen Vanderbilt, number fourteen Missouri,
then number eleven Tennessee in four back to back weeks,
and then went to South Carolina and won that game,

(19:08):
and then won against LSU. The only reason I mentioned
that is because I don't know that Missouri's a ranked team.
I'm not sure Tennessee's a ranked team. South Carolina will
get to that, but they may not have a head coach.
And then LSU already fired their coach. Yep, And you
look at those wins. The Missouri game wasn't all that impressive.

(19:32):
The South Carolina game obviously wasn't that impressive. And we
were on air last last week as the LSU Bama
game was ending, and the offense was very lethargic in
that game as well. So yeah, the Georgia win is
obviously a good one. The Florida State loss doesn't look
particularly good right now either. But I kind of just
look at all of it and I say, look, this
is a team that has a lot of talent on it,

(19:55):
but I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Not sure how scary they are.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yes, they have won a lot of games, but they
haven't looked particularly dominant in almost any of them. And
as the season has gone along, the teams that they
have beaten, they don't look as strong as they did
during that week, and a lot of times that's something
that gets factored in in the end. I'm not saying
Bama's not going to make the playoff. What I am

(20:19):
suggesting is they're gonna need to beat Auburn YEP, because
their resume is not quite as stacked as it might
have looked a month ago.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, and we talked a minute ago about Texas as
a potential three loss team. If they were to somehow
beat Texas A and M, the wins probably wouldn't be there.
Alabama all of a sudden goes from what do they
call it the cat birds seed. I don't even really
know what that means, but basically Alabama in position. Ironically,
they're still in position to make the SEC championship game.

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They hold the they hold the tie break over Georgia.
So if they beat Auburn, not only are they going
to the playoff, they're going to the SEC championship game.
They lose that Auburn game, though, all of a sudden,
it just looks like a completely different deal for them.
Where nine and three, like you said, that Missouri win
hasn't really held up by the way, like you know,

(21:12):
you have the head to a head win over Vandy.
What if Vandy finishes ten and two like that, that's
you know, that's a wildcard that probably people aren't talking about.
And so yeah, I don't know, it's just it's a
weird thing.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
They're good. I just don't think they're great.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
No, I agree, I agree, and I but I it's
just interesting because I think they have real flaws, and
I think they I think they've actually been exposed over
the last couple of weeks. Like like we were saying
that the LSU win, I think even last week we
were trying to figure out like how to contextualize it
on air, and there wasn't really you know, there really
wasn't much to say. Let me switch gears and ask

(21:49):
you about Oklahoma eight and two to two games left
against Missouri and LSU at home. You'd think they'd be
considerable favorites there. Ten and two resume win over Alabama,
resume win over Michigan early in the year, which somehow
is eight and two, even though it's the ugliest dight
and two I've ever seen. But they also have losses

(22:09):
to Old miss UH and UH Texas, so I guess
the Texas last doesn't matter as much. But Oklahoma, you know,
I don't know what. I don't even know what there
is to say about them. I mean, I I don't
know that they're in in it at ten and two,
but it feels like they probably would be, so all
of a sudden, you just talk about I don't even
what am I even trying to say about this game?

(22:31):
Bottom line, you're trying.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
To say the exact same thing that I just said
about Alabama. They're good, They're not great, sure, I mean
that that's what I think when I look at Oklahoma.
That offense is not not great. They're just no to
tier is very inconsistent at best. Their defense is all
world when they show up, it's very hard to move
the football on them. There've been a couple of times
when they haven't shown up and they've been beaten, or

(22:52):
you've got to have a really high octane offense. That
defense did not show up against Texas, but Matier was
coming back off the injury and probably shouldn't have been
in that game, and it didn't work out for them,
And then they lost to Ole Miss, and Ole Miss
scores a ton of points on just about everybody, so
you can almost understand that they have to outlast Tennessee.
But you know, Hypel's offenses are going to score a
lot of points. I think that they are held back

(23:16):
by a very pedestrian offense, a very untrustworthy offense. They
have an incredible defense, and I think that they are
well coached. I think their ceiling resides in an offense
that just is not I do not think that they
are consistent enough, even if they do end up making
the playoff, which at this point they certainly look like

(23:37):
they would. I mean, you beat Alabama and you have
that record, as long as you finish off with Missouri
and LSU, you should make the college football playoff. But
can you win it on defense? Now? Can you win
it on defense alone? And I don't know. I think
they're a worse version of what Penn State was last year.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, at John Mattier occasionally because they don't.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Have the running game that Penn State had last year.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes, No, I think that's actually a very good analogy.
I think that's a very good analogy. And you know,
I think too as we get deeper into this playoff era,
I you know, almost like you know, high like in
college basketball, you'd be like, yeah, that's that's a Sweet
sixteen team. You know, that's a team that can make
it to the final that. I think that's where we're
gonna get to as we get more comfortable in this
playoff of like Oklahoma, great season, like probably you know,

(24:28):
listen by the way, they still got to beat LSU,
still gotta beat Missouri, so they still have worked.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
But yeah, a good job by Brent Vinnables though, like
Vinables has turned it around there. He's done a good job.
Seems like he's a really likable guy. They like playing
for him. They've they've had a successful season. But you're right,
I think that's a perfect way to put it. A
Sweet sixteen team. Maybe they get lucky and find the
Elite eight, but that's probably their ceiling.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, like they're a playoff team. But if they're the
ten seed and they go to Oregon, I'm not feeling
good about their chances to win. So and by the way,
since yeah, you know what we might have, we might
have time to talk about the guy that Venables replaced,
who probably deserves a little bit of credit as well.
We'll save that for later in the hour. No sarcasm,
because he probably deserves a little bit of credit as well.
But we got to get to Steve Desager, and we

(25:13):
certainly got to talk about what happened in college station
this afternoon. So Disager, my man taken away, sir, how
are you doing well?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did something happen in college station?

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, we will get.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Beamer got repossessed.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, you like that, don't you.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's a great topic bar for if we got anybody
in TV production listening, steal that and put it on
your screen later tonight.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
No nobody steals anything in television.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
That will never happen. South Carolina one in seven in conference.
By the way, we do have four late games in
college football. All the rain we saw at the USC
game is now descending on the San Diego State game.
It's I don't I don't mean to overstate this because
it's you know, it's rain. It's not snow that's blocking
freeways or anything. Let's not go crazy, people, But in
an area that does get much rain, it's not just

(26:01):
a rainstorm, it's what they call an atmospheric river where
if you if you look at the satellite photos on
the local news, it's a very long band of water
that will empty all of it on your reach.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
And that was weather on the forest with Steve Desager.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
It's been brought up literally on one of the college
broadcasts today and tonight on one of the college football
writers watching this game.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Are you doing traffic next four on the hour? How
does that a no?

Speaker 7 (26:27):
Ib?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Kidding up, kidding, Okay, bad jokes aside continue. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
At USC, it was soggy and the Trojans were down
to Iowa twenty one seven late in.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
The first half.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Sc wins that top twenty five matchup twenty six twenty
one at San Diego State. Boise State has scored to
tie at seven to seven against the Aztecs five and
a half minutes to go in the first half. San
Diego State seven and two this year. Fresno State leads
seven to three over Wyoming end of the first quarter,
final seconds till halftime. Washington State fourteen nothing over Louisiana Tech,

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and number twelve BYU has a twenty fourth lead against
TCU two minutes to go in the first half. Top
ten wins for Ohio State in Indiana, for Texas Tech
and Notre Dame. Number three Texas A and M was
down thirty to three at halftime and still beat South
Carolina thirty one to thirty to stay undefeated. Oklahoma wins

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at Alabama twenty three to twenty one each team eight
and two. Number five Georgia a thirty five to ten
winner against Texas that was a fourteen to ten lead
to start the fourth quarter, and seventh ranked Old Miss
won at home tonight against Florida thirty four twenty four
with two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Close wins for Georgia,
Tech and Michigan. Navy beat number twenty four South Florida,

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and Arizona won at number twenty five Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
In the NBA, the.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Lakers got forty one points from Luka Donsich in a
victory at Milwaukee one nineteen to ninety five. Nikola Jokic
for the Nuggets was questionable with the spraying wrist. He
did play in a win at Minnesota won twenty three
one twelve, Jokic with twenty seven points. The New Orleans
Pelicans fired code Willie Green in women's hoops on Fox.
Number two South Carolina beat number eight USC in Los

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Angeles sixty nine fifty two. Did you notice, mister Yukon
fan that they went to the start of the women's game.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Did I notice Brandon Deutsch all the Yukon men were
still playing. Brandon Deutsch heard some four letter words back
there that he's probably never heard in his life. I
learned them from Dan Hurley and Jim Calhoun because I
was And by the way, then the game got good,
like Yukon was dominating, and then it was like a
four point game with ninety seconds to go out. Yeah,

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I pulled my best. Jim Calhoun, there were some four
letter words that poor Brandon Deutsch has never heard.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
The game in Boston was the top ten men's matchup.
Number three Connecticut did beat number seven BYU eighty six
eighty four, and it is now final. Minnesota at home
in overtime has beaten Green Bay on the Hardwoods, seventy
two to sixty five. NHL overtime win for Edmonton, shootout
win for New Jersey and number one Carlos al Kirez
will face number two ranked You Onick Center for the

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title Sunday in the ATP Finals, their year end tournament.
Al Karez has already secured the year in number one ranking.
Nicole Jokichen already withdrawn from this tournament citing a shoulder injury.
The men's finals are in Italy.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Disager. This
is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday rators.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Trying to find that basketball game. By the way, I
was trying to find gott Leave's game. I guess I
don't have it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Big ten Network. We shout out to Brandon Deutsch. Apparently
I didn't scar him enough where he couldn't change channels
back there. But yeah, Minnesota does hold on to beat
the Green Ah.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I just got there. Okay, Yeah, I'll.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Tell you what jamar Let's come back. When we do
do want to talk about the wild Texas A and
M comeback. USC is quietly in the playoff race and oh,
by the way, James Franklin, does he have a new job.
We'll discuss all that next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (30:06):
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Towards, Jason Martin.
We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios
for people who are just joining us. We've gone through
the two big ones in the SEC. Excuse me, Georgia,
no doubt about it. Against Texas thirty five to ten
is the final score? Oklahoma the stunner against Alabama twenty

(30:30):
three to twenty one, really quickly, j mart you mentioned
before the break Brent Vnnables. You know, gotta give him credit, man.
You know, back was kind of up against the wall.
Change the offense, change the quarterback, and admittedly, like quarterbacks,
probably not great. You know, I don't know that he's
gonna be at New York for the Heisman Trophy, but

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Oklahoma gets the job done. I think we have to
at some point at least acknowledge a little bit the
guy who he replaced, Lincoln Riley, who the two on Saturday,
improved to eight and two. At usc they beat Iowa
twenty six to twenty one. I know that's not the
most incredible win ever, but USC is eight and two,

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destroyed Michigan at home, beat Nebraska on the road, beat
Iowa at home, and is really kind of winning in
a Big ten style. Now. To be clear, they still
have at Oregon next week, and certainly if they beat
Oregon they're going to the College Football Playoff. I still
think nine to three and just outside the playoff is

(31:33):
most likely. We don't have to spend fifteen minutes on this,
but I just want to take a minute and say,
if we're going to criticize Lincoln Riley at every turn
for every little thing, we've probably got to give him
a little bit of credit here for the eight and
two season. Also worth noting, by the way, first loss
to the season Illinois, they had the lead in the
final minute and couldn't hold on, so easily could be
nine to one at this point in the season.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we've given him so much flack.
You actually sent this text to me and then I
just thought, yeah, that's a great call. Yeah, You've got
to give him his Flowers now because he's done a
good job and it's been very under the radar. Nobody's
paying attention to USC. They just keep winning games, and
they're winning games against teams and on the road in

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places where Lincoln Raiway teams are not supposed to do
win games. And USC is supposed to have all this
culture shot going to the Big Ten, and all they're
doing is winning football games and doing so with toughness
and playing hard and outlasting teams that are known for
their toughness. So yeah, I mean, good on him. That's
not something I think most were anticipating going into this

(32:39):
year that USC was going to be a talking point
on November fifteenth. But they are. And some other teams
that we thought for sure we were going to be
spending a ton of time on they have completely faded,
including one in that conference that is looking for a
new coach and their old coach maybe on their way
to a job.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Well, crap I was going to talk Texas A and
N but let's talk half a sex.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Still can he still can?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
If you want, Well, let's talk James Franklin for half
a second. Sure, because I so, I'm on the West coast,
so I wake up, probably a little bit later than
you do, but I wake up. Turn on the phone today.
First thing I see Pete Thamil a very weirdly worded
tweet about James Franklin and Virginia Tech are in advanced discussions.

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He's not the head coach. He might not be, but
he could be. Then I scrolled down a little bit.
Bruce Feldman essentially has the same tweet. Pete Nacos from
three essentially has the same tweet, And so Virginia Tech
and James Franklin some heavy flirting. Now. I have an
opinion as to why the reporting is the way that

(33:46):
it is. But right now, it does feel like James
Franklin and Virginia Tech, I don't know if they're on
the one yard line, feels like they're in the red
zone though, feels like he could be the next head coach.
Does not feel like anything is finalized though.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I mean, I think it would be a really
nice landing spot for him if this is where he goes.
I could see I see the sincident from Virginia Tech's perspective,
because Virginia Tech would love to become what Penn State was.
That's that eventually. There are some programs there that have
fallen so far off the map, but that are used
to at times winning big and they have a great tradition, right,

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but they have never really kind of found the mountaintop.
I mean, Virginia Tech kind of flirted with it once
with Michael Vick, but that was really about it. But
outside of it, I mean, frank Beemer's a legend. It
was always hard to go to Blacksburg. It's a wonderful
college football environment with all kinds of tradition. Does that
remind you of, reminds you of Happy Valley, reminds you
of Penn State, remind you of what it's like when

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that place is rock And I could see James Franklin
needing the change of scenery. But the biggest thing is
Virginia Tech just needs to get back on the map again.
They need to be relevant again. They need to win
nine games again, that kind of thing. And Franklin's exactly
the guy to do that. And what has he learned
from his experiences at Penn State. Has he done any
soul searching at all over the past month or so

(35:07):
where he has seen the error and some of the
things that happened there, and maybe he can point back
to it, learn from it, and grow from it. I
think that's a bet worth taking if you're Virginia Tech.
And again, if you end up top fifteen somewhere in
that neighborhood top ten, I think that that's proven itself out.
I think nobody's ever said on this show as much

(35:28):
as we've talked about him being overrated, as much as
I have been on record about that. By overrated, that
doesn't mean that he shouldn't be rated. It just means
that there is kind of I'm not sure he's a
national championship coach. He's going to need to prove me
wrong on that one. But can he win a lot
of football games? Yeah? He did it at Vanderbilt, he
did it at Penn State, and I think Virginia Tech

(35:49):
would be very smart as a matter of fact, to
make that higher.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah. Two quick things on James Franklin. One. First off,
I thought the reporting was interesting and my personal take,
if you read the tweets closely, it feels to me
like this was a report leaked by Virginia Tech. And
my thought process is he has probably indicated to them

(36:15):
that he's interested in their job. But it feels to
me like he's probably waiting to see if he can
quote unquote get something better. So that was my thought
on the tweets. It's like it felt like Virginia is
trying to or Virginia Tech is trying to squeeze him here.
So let's work under the assumption that he ends up there.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Though.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I'll say this a couple of things. One, I think
it's a home run for Virginia Tech for all the
reasons that you said. Just because he couldn't get over
the hump at Penn State doesn't mean he's incapable of
doing the job. As a matter of fact, he does
a lot of the things well. And oh, by the way,
if we get to it. First of all, there's no
Ohio State and Peake Michigan in the acc right now,
so there's that part of it. The other thing I

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would say is if you get to the point where
you're consistently ted and two but can't beat whoever's atop
the conference, I think Virginia Tech will take that. The
other thing I will say, if it is Virginia Tech,
you know who's the biggest loser in all this is
freaking Penn State because he's in the same region, a

(37:15):
lot of the same recruiting ties, and like, I don't know,
you know how many players he'll win head to head
against Penn State, But that is not a guy who
has dominated that region in recruiting that I want in
my backyard with a chip on his shoulder. And so
we'll see what happens with Virginia Tech. Like I said,
I think he is trying to hold on as long

(37:36):
as he can to see if anything else either opens
or if he's maybe a candidate. You know, we haven't
talked about the fact that Old Miss won tonight, so
you know Ole Miss, you know they're going to the
college football playoffs, So what if they go to the playoff?
Does Florida wait until Lane Kiffin season is done? I
just bring it up because that's kind of the James

(37:57):
Franklin take that I have. It feels like he's trying
to stroke long arm Oh Miss into maybe or a
strong arm Virginia Tech into seeing how long he can
leverage them to see what else is out there really quick.
I think we'd be remiss if we did not talk
about a thirty to three comeback from the Texas A
and m Aggie's first biggest comeback in school history. Jamart,

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what was the stat oh and two eighty six was
at the number eighty six?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, since two thousand and four. Yeah it was. There
were two hundred and eighty six games played with a
twenty seven point lead. No SEC team had lost in
a situation like that, and that streak came to an
end courtesy of Texas A and M on Saturday against
South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, don't know what else there really is to add. Well,
I do know what is there, by the way, a couple.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Things speaking of losers. By the way, if James Franklin
takes the Virginia Tech job, it might be the guy
who needs a job out of South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, I'll say this, by the way, we might have
to extend this to We'll just start at the top
of the hour with it. Mike Elko got another extension today.
I did see the Kurt Signetti pushback of here we
go again with another big extension for A and M.
It's like he's ten and zero at A and M.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
They're undefeated.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Man, what are we talking about? I'll tell you of it.
We got we got another two hours. We could talk Texas,
A and M on the other side, But there are
so many takeaways from the A and M perspective, from
the South Carolina perspective. But A and M sec teams
ozer and two eighty six. When trailing by that many points,
A and M comes back to win. I don't know

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if you have about a minute of content in you,
j Mart, but what a comeback for the Aggies.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I mean, it's phenomenal, it really was. I mean, Marcel
Reid was absolutely awful when the first half can do
anything right, and then just in the third quarter alone,
it felt like he had seventeen Heisman moments like it
just it got completely. It was weird because as soon
as A and M scored the first touchdown, I said,
you know, and I sent this text to you as
a matter of fact, right before the half, I said,

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Texas and M might come back and win this, but
it doesn't look good. That actually sounds pretty much right
because I didn't give up on them. I wanted to
see a little bit more. Even though that thing looked
awful in the first half. This team, there's not a
lot of teams that are gonna come back from that.
As a matter of fact, nobody any SEC did. Credit
to them, Credit to the offense and the defense. Credit

(40:23):
to Elko for not letting them quit like that. Right
there was incredibly impressive for them to come back and
win that game.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, they're another team with that win. I don't really Well,
they do play Sanford next week. If they lose to Sanford,
then whatever we'll talk about. They feel like they've clinched
a playoff spot. I think the only question right now
will they go to their first SEC championship game. More
college football, Fox Sports Radio Welcome in everybody, hour two
towards Martin. Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live from

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the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yes, we are live at
midnight Eastern time. A lot to react to. Goodness, gracious,
what a day across the world of college football. The
SEGA just told you. But Oklahoma pulls off the stunner
at Alabama, Georgia takes care of business against Texas, and
a historic comeback for A and M, which trailed thirty

(41:17):
to three at halftime and rally to win. Oh by
the way, USC improves to eight and two, Michigan improves
to eight and two. Notre it Am improves to eight
and two. We're shaping up for a really fun final
couple weeks of the college football season. By the way,
J Mart interesting, you know, we talked about it last hour.
But USC and Oregon I think will probably be the

(41:39):
headline game next week, a de facto playoff game. If
USC were to win that, I think they'd be in.
If they're not, Oregon probably would basically clinch a spot there.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
So yeah, oh man, that's a that's I don't know
that we saw that when coming. But hey man, PAC
twelve is alive.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Okay. I had a very obscure thought during the un
Iowa game, and I want you to seriously think about this.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I'm a king of obscure thoughts. So yeah, bring it off.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Because when all the expansion happened, I said like, like,
like what, And I go back to the day that
Texas and Oklahoma it was first reported that they were
trying to leave for the SEC, and I said, why
would Arkansas, Vandy, South Carolina, Kentucky, whoever, why would they
ever vote for this? Because all it does is, you know,

(42:31):
knock you two more pegs down the pecking order in
the in the SEC. And I bring it up because
I was thinking this watching USC beat Iowa. Iowa the
last two weeks has lost to USC and Oregon, and
if USC and Oregon aren't in the Big Ten, those
two games become whoever. You know, maybe it becomes Ohio State,

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but maybe it becomes a Rutgers, maybe it becomes whoever.
So the obscure thought was how many we were going
to go to a twelve team playoffs?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Point?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Anyway, how many teams have actually benefited from conference realignment
and conference expansion in the manner that it has now
really quickly? Before I give you my answer, I thought
about it. I could really only think of a few,
and I think you could argue that outside of the
Big Twelve, which is now softer at the top without

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Texas and Oklahoma, it's just the truth. Like I think
conference realignment benefited Texas Tech, probably BYU, which wasn't in
a conference and now is, and maybe like one or
two everybody else, like the path is just harder. And
I don't want to say like it's it was unnecessary,
but like Texas and Oklahoma, life was better in the

(43:44):
Big Twelve, even though you made less money, Alabama life
was easier when Texas and Oklahoma weren't in your league.
Maybe maybe Ohio State hasn't impacted. But like, I just
I think it like the money was great, and I
guess as consumers, like it's awesome that we get Oregon
Michigan in all this, but like for the actually, I

(44:05):
don't know, I just I don't think it's actually on
the field benefited anybody except for a very very very
select few teams. That was my obscure thought the day
throughout the day.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Now, I mean, I think that's probably right. I think
that it benefits the conference from a money standpoint, so
the television deals and the partners that kind of works out.
And I think the only way that you can make
sense of it is because of the twelve team playoff
that they keep wanting to expand, like it explains it perfectly,

(44:35):
because there would be no reason why you would want
this unless there were more slots to get you in
in the first place, which is why you're seeing teams
say we need to have sixteam, we need to have
twenty four. All this because they're getting a benefit from
the financial standpoint, but they now have more potential built
in losses because there's better teams within those conferences, So

(44:57):
there is a financial gain. But I don't think if
there's a four team playoff, there's no way we're seeing
this because there's no reason for it. But because we
have this larger field and probably continuing to grow field.
This is why it works, because the new business of
college football has opened the floodgates to the postseason in

(45:19):
a way where you can get knocked down just a
little bit but still have a better shot than you
would have otherwise.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah. And I will say, and at this part I
have said time and time again, is that I was
anti expansion of the college football playoff. I just kind
of felt like, by the end of the year, you
get to two or three teams that really have a
chance to win it. I do think it's been a
net positive for college football. And I also think too,
I don't think when they expanded the playoff, I could

(45:47):
have seen, you know, how flat the top of college
football has really gotten, where you know, there's really no
separating Like I don't think you can definitively say there
is a best team in the SEC. I think depending
on the Saturday, you could make the argument for four
or five different teams. Big Ten's a little bit different
with Ohio State at the top. But yeah, no, i

(46:10):
expansion has been a net positive. But yeah, man, it's
like I think Alabama's thrilled that Oklahoma and Texas are
in that league. No, you think Iowa is thrilled that
USC and Oregon just gave them back to back losses. No,
but it is what it is. It's the new world
of college football. And and yeah, so anyway.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's winners and losers. And generally it's the schools that
were already winners. Yeah, and then you've had some that
were sort of fringe performers. They're the ones that have
been hurt. There's your Iowa. Maybe the biggest example is Wisconsin. Yeah,
like Wisconsin's falling off the map. But Wisconsin used to
be penciled in to get drubbed in the Big Ten
championship game seemingly every year. Now they can't win four

(46:52):
games and no one talks about them at all, and you're, oh, yeah,
they're still in the Big Ten and you see them
and you think it should matter, and then they get
blown out of another and you remember, yeah, it's not
the same. It's just not the same. It doesn't help
a team like Nebraska either, Like those are the teams
that get harmed the most.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, and I mean listen, we just talked about it
in a minute ago with South Carolina. You know, whether
Shane Biemer gets fired this year, whether he tries to
get another job, whether he's on the hot seat going
against next year. Like, well, I'm just saying like that's
the perfect example of a team that it's just like, like,
you know, the truth of it is, honestly, is that

(47:28):
it's the school presidents that make these decisions. And the
school presidents generally don't care about sports, and they just
see a dollar figure and they're like, oh cool, we
make another twenty five million or fifty million or whatever
the number is a year. Okay, sign me up. Where
it's like, you know, but I think South Carolina is
like the perfect example of stuff kind of basically had

(47:50):
to break right for them, you know, Like like even
with Shane Beemer, like I understand what you're saying about him.
I kind of think in this new era, they're just
like a six and sixteen every year, and sometimes they'll
be things will break right and they'll have this and
they'll have that, and they'll be nine and three or
eight and four. But I just think that's kind of
who they are, and I just think they, like they Vanderbilt, whoever, Wisconsin, Iowa,

(48:15):
have just made the pathway unnecessarily tougher for themselves and
doesn't matter to me, you know. But but yes, it's great.
You know, it's awesome for the school president or the
ad that gets an extra zero on his check. But like,
I just think for a lot of these fan bases
and schools, it's been a net negative. That's the only
point I'm trying to make.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
So, yeah, I think that's right. I do think that's right,
But you know that's I don't think it's gonna Obviously,
it's not gonna change. And as we see more expansion,
what you're saying about South Carolina being a six and sixteen, Yeah,
but when you do come into the season with the
Hogsman Trophy candidate quarterback, whether that was legit or not,

(48:55):
they had talent all over the field. They're a nine
and nine and fourteen a year ago, and now they're
not going to make a bowl. They've won one game
in conference and then they had a historic collapse in
front of a nationwide audience. Today. I don't know that
that's instilling a lot of confidence in a school that
I think always believes they're really really close to being something.

(49:20):
It just stuff's looking rough around there. I'm not I
won't be shocked if Beember does not coach another game there.
I'm not kidding you. I don't know that they would
do that now, but that seat has got to be
incredibly hot at this point, and maybe the beginning of
this year. I mean, they just extended him to twenty thirty,
so it was buyout. It's like twenty eight mil. But

(49:41):
at this point, you're seeing schools willing to pay that money.
You're seeing people within those schools willing to pay that
money because they understand how fast things can turn because
of NIL, because of the transfer portal and all those
kinds of things. So the leashes are longer because you
have an opportunity to make the playoff because there's an
expanded group. But then alasias are pulled back because the

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money is not nearly as much of an object for
those that are actually trying to win, and the expectations
are higher and the pressure is greater in these schools
because of what you just said. The Texas, Oklahoma's, the
us sees, the Oregans, those kind of schools, Like everything
has completely changed. Like if my dad was still with us,
I don't know that he would fully grasp this compared

(50:24):
to the football that he watched thirty years ago. Football
I watched thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Football we watched like four years ago. Yeah, LSU just
steamrolling everybody to fifteen and oh, like, I don't know
that we're gonna see that very much anymore. So all right,
let's go ahead, switch gears really quickly. We'll get to
some NFL stuff over the next couple hours. We're on
until two am Eastern. Adam Oslin follows us Bernie frattle
out this evening real quick. You know, we're gonna spend

(50:52):
a little bit more time on this. I don't know
that it necessarily warrants it. But New England Patriots Thursday
Night Football take care of business against the New York Jets.
I don't think we have to break down the game.
The Jets are kind of bad. Don't know if you've heard,
you know, if if you haven't heard, just listen to
anytime they put a mic in front of Woody Johnson,

(51:12):
because he's not afraid to tell you how bad his
team and quarterback are. But Patriots nine and two. Patriots
nine and two. They have won eight in a row.
Their last loss was way back in Week three, and
they're playing some some really inspired football. And I guess
I would just ask, and we were talking about this,

(51:33):
I think you can argue two things, both of them accurately.
On the Patriots, that they're the best story in football,
going from last place last year top five pick where
they take Will Campbell, to that they're the best story
in college in the NFL because of the turnaround. I
think also if you're a Dolphins fan, if you're a

(51:53):
Jets fan, or if you just could not stand the
Patriots dynasty, I think you get also argued it's the
worst story in the NFL because with Drake May and
Mike Vrabel, Yeah, they're probably not winning six Super Bowls,
but they are clearly going to be a factor pretty much,
I would assume for the next decade plus. Where do
you stand on the Patriots, who seemed to be hitting

(52:14):
another stretch where they are going to be an absolute
terror for everyone in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I mean, I'm less surprised by this than a lot,
but that's again because I do this show from Nashville
and I covered Mike Rabel's entire tenure as head coach
on a day to day basis, and this is what
he did. I mean, he turned Ryan Tannehill into a
guy that was quarterback for the number one seed in

(52:43):
the AFC. Yes, they rode the back of Derrick Henry,
but that season Derrick Henry was hurt. As a matter
of fact, that game that he came back that they
lost in a playoffs, that was his first game since
he had got knocked out of the Colts game very
early in the season. But Vrabel has done this forever.
I heard Jason Smith say this on his program a
couple of days ago, and he's one hundred percent right.
Like he's talking about what Mike Rabel has done with

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less talent than some of these other teams, and what
he's done in New England. That's what he's done his
whole career as a head coach. This is what he
is known for. There are things you could knock Verbel
for and when they happen, I'll be sure to tell
you Aaron and say, hey, look, this is also some
things that we saw. But this dude gets a lot
out of his teams. He asks a lot of them

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as well. He practices them incredibly difficult. They're different, Their
practices are tough, man, They're hard. Honestly, might be one
of the reasons why the Titans were injured as hard
as they were, So keep that in mind as you
watch the Patriots. But this should not be a shock
if you watched him. But we already saw last year
what Drake made could be. We saw it on a really,

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really bad team that was going absolutely nowhere, but you
knew the pieces were there. And the reason is because
Vrabel wasn't going to walk into a spot where there
was no chance, because he had opportunities, and this is
the one he chose. This one made the most sense
because of where he had played and his heart being
there and everything else. But it was a perfect marriage.

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It's a great story. Probably the three best stories if
you want to look at it from a positive standpoint
this year would be the Patriots, another one that you
mentioned to me, the Seahawks, and then the third one
I think is probably the Cults, maybe to a little
bit of a lesser degree, and then the Giants, which
I think we might get to a little bit later.
A story that was trending to be really really good.

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But we'll see. But I think that the Patriots thing
is just an amazing story and it shows again what
it looks like when you have a very competent head
coach that makes really really good in game decisions and
a quarterback that can actually play. Those are two factors
that really turn it up. And let's not forget they

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did go Grabstefon Diggs, and Diggs is out there making
plays because he's got a quarterback that he really likes,
and he's got a situation that he likes, and he
looks like there's a little bit of a rebirth to
a career that maybe look like it was starting to
trend in the wrong direction. So it's just been a
great It was just it was a great hire. It
was a great offseason for the Patriots, and they've put

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themselves in a position where they matter again. Do I
think they're going to the Super Bowl this year? Absolutely?
I do not. I don't, But this step should terrify
everybody because this is not going to be the best
that it gets for New England. Now, maybe nine to
two is, but in terms of what they're ceiling is
I absolutely think this team can win a Super Bowl

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over the next five years.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, let me ask you actually real quick, do you
think that we're being caught up in the moment and
overstating it considering this is still the conference of Patrick Mahomes,
Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, on and on.
In other words, like, yes, I understand that to varying degrees,

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basically all of those teams that I mentioned are struggling,
but that maybe it's almost like a perfect storm where
everything is going right for the Patriots at a time
where all of those teams are dealing with their own issues.
Or do you think that you know this is something
that's kind of sustainable long term?

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Well, I mean, we're going to see. But they won
at Buffalo, they won at Tampa Bay. Those are two
pretty nice wins. I think that. I mean, to your point,
some of the guys that you named haven't made a
Super Bowl either. Justin Herbert, we're still waiting to see
him do anything in the playoffs as of yet, with
all due respect to the talent that he possesses, those

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teams haven't really done very much. When we got to
the postseason, we already know what the narrative is on
the bills. We don't care until January. We already know
what the narrative is on Lamar and the Ravens at
this point too, like get to a Super Bowl. So
all those guys are still trending to do the exact
same thing. They're trying to do what Patrick Mahomes and
Joe Burrow have managed to do. Burrow once Patrick Mahomes

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about eight hundred thousand, five hundred times over this past stretch.
But I think that you don't want to overreact because
there's still, you know, several games left and they maybe
they're going to hit a wall, right, it's very very possible.
It's I think this is more about what you see
for the future of the franchise as they continue to build.

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They need another couple of good off seasons, but they
have the pieces in place on the sidelines. Josh McDaniels
doing his thing again doesn't need to be understated either.
His play calling has been exceptional. He's really maximizing Drake
May Then you've got the quarterback, then you've got the
head coach. So I think this is more maybe more

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about the future and being excited about what is to
come than maybe today but they're absolutely going to be
a factor. They're going to be a team that likely
is not going to beat themselves. You're going to have
to go and beat them.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Don't know what else there is to add great story?
You know, I'm not one like I told you last week,
I'm not one that because the Patriots had that incredible
twenty year run that it's like, Oh, I can't celebrate
something cool, something new, something fun, and something that I think,
frankly is pretty sustainable. Fox Sports Radio Air Toors Jason Martin,
broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. As the

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Patriots ascend, what about the Bills? As you mention you,
j mart they've lost to the Patriots, already lost to
Miami last weekend. Oh by the way, yeah, know what
else is something? Sel mcdermot's job status. We'll discuss that next.
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Speaker 1 (59:18):
So, speaking of which, what do you got. I need
to talk to Bernie. I need to talk to you.
I need to talk to somebody. I want to go
to F one in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Oh that's a Bernie question, you know.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
I need to find a way to go. I mean,
I'm dying to see an F one race in person.
I know that that's a tough thing to do, but oh,
I want to see one, and going to Vegas would
not be a bad way to do it.

Speaker 7 (59:38):
Jamar, let me know if you do that, because I'm
also going to be in Vegas during that weekend watching
Raiders brown So if you have a guy to get
tickets for that.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
You let me know. Raiders Browns.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
I'm unfortunately a Browns fan if you can't remember.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Fun fact, I'm also going to Vegas next week after
our show, which is after the race, but there's a
basketball tournament there, so so I mean if you go,
I mean, if you go Saturday, I can scoot out Saturday.
You'll probably want to go to the race, though, Swich
will be going on during our show, so I'm guessing
it wouldn't make much sense to come out early.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
But yeah, I don't think that. I'm I'm probably one
week's notice. I have the thousands of dollars it requires.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
On one week's notice when your daughter's taking her first steps.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah, I think, yeah, it's probably not a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Probably not this year. What do you mean Vegas? More
of a twenty twenty six type things? Guys, come on,
all right, this this show's I think daughter.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I think daughter wins that that fight has.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
To Yes, all right, well I'll tell you what I do.
Want to come back talk to some NFL stuff, including
the no longer dominating the AFC East Buffalo bills. We'll
do that in just one moment. Before we do, though,
let's get it over to the news desk, Steve Desager,
Steve de Sager, Let's let us know what is trading.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
The game at MISSOO tonight it went to Missouri forty
nine twenty seven over Mississippi State. I'm already twenty five
carries three hundred yards rushing and three touchdowns quarter at
number twelve BYU Cougar's leading TCU twenty seven thirteen now
early third quarter at San Diego State as Tech seven
and two this year ahead of Boise State fourteen to seven.

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Late third quarter Washington State fourteen to three over Louisiana Tech.
Halftime at Fresno State Bulldogs ahead of Wyoming ten to three.
Wins in the top ten for Ohio State in Indiana
for Texas Tech and Notre Dame, which won easily at
pitt thirty seven to fifteen. Number three Texas A and
M still undefeated. It was down thirty to three at

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the half but beat South Carolina thirty one to thirty.
Number eleven Oklahoma winner at number four Alabama twenty three
twenty one each team eight and two. Number five Georgia
led number ten ranked Texas fourteen to ten to start
the fourth quarter. Georgia thirty five ten the final and
seventh ranked Old Miss scored two touchdowns in the fourth

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quarter to beat Florida thirty four to twenty four. In
college basketball, Number three Connecticut was a winner in Boston
at number seven BYU eighty six eighty four. Women's number
two South Carolina beat number eight USC in Los Angeles
sixty nine fifty two. The NBA's New Orleans Pelicans fired
coach Willie Green after a two to ten start. Cleveland

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beat Memphis today one o eight one hundred. Grizzlies guard
John Morant left with a sore calf. Oklahoma City is
thirteen and one after winning at Charlotte one oh nine
ninety six thirty three points for Shay Giljis Alexander. Toronto
one at Indiana one twenty nine to one eleven. The
Toronto Raptors beat an Indiana team that is now one
and twelve. Denver ten and two won at Minnesota tonight

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one twenty three to one twelve. Nicolokicch and the Nuggets
did play. He'd been questionable with the sprained risk. He
had twenty seven points. Denver's Christian Brown could miss ellast
six weeks with a sprained ankle. The Lakers got forty
one points from Luka Doncic to a win at Milwaukee
one nineteen to ninety five.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
The NHL.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
Among the thirteen games, Dallas five one over Philadelphia. Carolina
had been twelve and five on the young season, but
Edmonton won at Carolina in overtime four to three. New
Jersey one again in a shootout at Washington three to two,
and Minnesota shut out Anaheim to nothing. Number one Carlos
Alcarez advanced to face number two ranked Onick Center for

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the title Sunday at the Tennis ATP Finals in Italy.
US men's soccer won its exhibition in Pennsylvania two to
one over Paraguay. The Americans will play Uruguay on Tuesday
in Tampa and in DC, the Washington Spirit won the
Women's League semifinal ANDWSL two nothing over Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Saga.
Disaga will be back in just a moment or two
of his extended update. But this is Fox Sports Radio,
Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday air towards Jason Martin. We
are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Do
want to stay on the topic of not only the NFL,
but the AFC East. We mentioned it a minute ago.

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The New England Patriots sitting at nine and two, very
comfortably atop the AFC East. They have basically I don't
even know how to do the math here one game
lead in the win column, but they have the tiebreaker
over Buffalo. It's not really about a standings thing. It's
about a fact that the Buffalo Bills are six and

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three right now, coming off of the loss to the Dolphins,
two and three in their last five overall. J Mart,
you know, there's a take somebody in the media said this,
and I don't. I can't. I think it might have
been Nick Wright. I would give him credit if I'm
positive it was him, but I think it was him.
But he said, there's three types of takes. There's takes

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that you're dead right on. There's takes that you're dead
wrong on, and there's takes that you end up being
right on. It just takes you a little bit longer
than you wanted. I've been basically calling for Sean mcdermot's
head for about three years now. I just think the
playoff losses at some points, Josh Allen's prime is only

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gonna last so long, and seaw Dermott coaches tight in
the playoffs. I've never been a fan. I said, I
think three losses to the Chiefs Ago, maybe it was
even the loss to the Bengals, I can't remember. They're
never gonna get over the hump with him. Well, I
bring it up because you can take this where you want.
But when you're I think all you need to know

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you beat the Chiefs and then immediately lose to the Dolphins.
You also have that embarrassing loss to the Falcons a
few weeks ago. I don't think McDermott's messages is getting through.
And I think what I see is a team that
can get itself up for big games, but the in
between games that the Patriots are showing up for that

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the Lions are, you know, the teams that are well
coached that everybody. I think the McDermott thing, he's got
about a half a season to prove it to me.
I think that with this team, this roster, this moment
in time, Josh Allen Square in his prime, you can't
be finishing second in the AFC East. You can't. Are
you losing to bad teams? And if this isn't the

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year you make the playoff run, I really think they've
got to make a move after this season.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So we have shared this take now for a couple
of years now. The only question I would have just
to play devil's advocate even though I tend to agree
with you, is who are you going to go hire?
Because that then becomes I think the next question the Bills.
It's so crazy what we do and what our peers do,

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having to have a take day after day after day
after day after day, week after week. It's something different
with the Bills. They're either the best team you've ever
seen or what's happened here. Chiefs are the same way.
Chiefs are. I've seen this before. The Chiefs do this
all the time, like we overreact almost because we have to,
because we have to react to what we see. But
at the same time, we're trying to find something novel

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but also something like wow to say in these moments,
and sometimes it's not there. The Bills are going to
be determined, and you basically said this. I already said, like,
you can talk about the Bills all you want. I
don't care until January. I just don't win or lose,
whether they're undefeated or whether they go in as a

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wild card. If they don't win the super Bowl, it's
been a failure at the very least get to the
super Bowl. Like we cannot continue to do this. And
I don't think that it's Allen's fault. I think Allen
has at times he hasn't been great this year. At
times he's been otherworldly this year. James Cook has run
the ball very effectively for them. The defense has been

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a bit spotty, of course, you know Sean McDermott may
to say is a defensive coordinator, of course, But in
terms of McDermott, maybe his ceiling is a great regular
season and an exit before you should see one in
the playoffs. And we said that before. I would just say, like,
who are you gonna go? And get that's gonna fix

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the problem. And because I don't know that they're an
undiscible team, I don't know a lot of those things.
But I'm not a huge Sean McDermott fan either. I
just don't know the answer. I don't know what the
fix is. From a coaching standpoint, that's gonna give you
what you don't have. Is there anybody you have in mind?

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I mean, I would just promote Joe Brady. Joe Brady's
gonna be a head coach at some point, and I
get it, never been a head coach all that, And
by the way, internally, I would hope that you would
know if he's a legitimate candidate or not, and maybe
he's not. I just you know, And again to your point,
it is week eleven right now, we're nine games through
the regular season, which means we essentially have half of

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the regular season left. And I should mention they're one
game back in the lost column. They do still pay
the play the Patriots. Excuse me, and I would say,
you know, the schedule breaks down pretty nicely for them
in the back half. Now they have the quick turnaround.
They play this coming Thursday in Houston, but Bengals on
the back half, I don't know if Joe Burrow. I

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don't think Joe Burro will be back for that game.
Maybe he will be who knows, you know with that,
but they do still play the Patriots. They do still
play the Browns. They do still play the Jets again,
the Eagles. The Eagles themselves are kind of a week
two week team. We'll see what we get out of
them this weekend or on Monday or you know, this
weekend against Detroit. But I just I don't know. I
get the notion of who are you going to get?

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That's better? I would also counter with the definition of
insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Maybe it's a change of scenery thing. Yeah, maybe it's
another situation where, look, he's still a pretty good coach,
but he's done all he can do here. We need
to we need to get some fresh blood in and
try something. And I'm fine with that. I was just
curious if you had a name, because he has had
a lot of success there. If you let him go,
then you are suggesting that Josh Allen's been the reason
for the for the success, Sean McDermott has been the

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reason for the failure. There's probably an extreme take on
both sides of those that is not accurate, but I
tend to think that it is far more the core
back then it is the coach, and maybe I'm now
electing to go that direction more often than not because
of what I saw with Tom Brady once he got
to Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Let me ask you this. If they were to let's
say they made a deep playoff run that doesn't include
the Super Bowl. Let's say an AFC Championship game and
they lose, but it's not to the Chiefs, does that
in any way make you feel differently? Maybe it's worse
in some ways, like well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It depends on the circumstances. It depends on how they lose,
it depends on the fight that's put up, like that game,
the playoff game a couple years ago when they lost
to Cincinnati and just got killed, Like that can't happen.
But if it's like if there's an incredible game that
is played and they come up short, I think that
that does factor in. But yes, I feel like this

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Bills team needs to finally overthrow the dragon in the
playoffs that they have not been able to get through.
But if it's let's say it's Baltimore and they get
past Baltimore, I think that's still Or if they get
beat by Baltimore a really close game, I don't know
that that's the desk now, even though you and I
maybe think it should be at that point, because you

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just keep coming up short and short and short no
matter what you do. So what's gonna change next year?
And I would suggest that the answer is probably nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Interesting situation in Buffalo really quick, because there's a lot
of good games this weekend, so I don't know if
we're gonna have time to preview them. All later on
in the show. You know they're they're hosting Tampa. Tampa,
of course, is coming off a loss of the Patriots themselves.
Just really quick, any any big picture takeaways on this
game coming into this one on Sunday?

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Do you have any take Do you have any big
picture on this one?

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I just I know I just said big picture, So
I don't know that I feel great about either side.
My big picture is you're at home, you're coming off
in embarrassing loss. I want to see a good performance.
I picked the Bucks last week against the Pats at home,
so maybe I shouldn't. I just to me, I don't know.

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I just I worry about this Bills team, and I
worry that they can get themselves up for the really
big games. I guess, but I guess Tampa probably maybe
qualifies as that. But I don't know. I don't. I've
seen too much inconsistency. I actually do like the Bucks
to win this game.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Hm. I feel like it being in Buffalo. I like
Buffalo to win the game. I think that's that's my
big takeaway. It's it's gonna be. I need to look
at the temperature.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
It's not it's it's forty, but it's not like snow forty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Okay, well, I mean you might be able to get
through that. Again, though, the problem has just been all
of the injuries, the missing components for the Bucks and
a Bills team that now knows what they are having
to deal with when it comes to the Patriots, So
I feel like they're going to be kind of inspired,
especially coming off the loss last week. I think they'll win.
A matter of fact, I think they might win convincingly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
All Right, we will find out Buffalo hosting Tampa in
the early window, and it is part of a monster
slate of NFL games. Among the big games Chicago Minnesota
we got on top of that. We also have the
big game later on in the afternoon Seattle and the Rams.
We have the Sunday night game of Detroit and Philly.

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Didn't even mention Casey in Denver. So busy Sunday. We
will come back and previewed all about less than an
hour from now. Tell you what, though, well, we also
need to do. We need to bring in Steve de Sager.
He needs to get you updated on everything you missed
on a busy Saturday across the world of sports. We'll
discuss that next with the Saga. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome
back everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Here Tors Jayson mart broadcasting

(01:13:56):
life for the Fox Sports Radio studios. Let's get it
over the news desk to saga. What is trending.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Of BYU twelve. They're up thirty to thirteen on TCU
late in the third.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
As for some of the other college football tonight, UNLV
won again double overtime over Utah State eight and two.
Record for the Rebels. Florida State was one in five
in conference, but got a home win against Virginia Tech
thirty four to fourteen. Also in that league. North Carolina
two and four in the ACC, lost at Wake Forest
today twenty eight to twelve. North Texas could be a

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playoff team this year. They won easily at UAB nine
and one. Record now for North Texas to Lane's not
out of the mix eight and two record after a
home win against Florida Atlantic, and Texas A and M
had the incredible comeback to stay undefeated. They were ranked
third in the college football playoff standings this week. Texas
A and M had a season opener in twenty seventeen

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where they blew a huge lead and lost at UCLA
against quarterback Josh Rosen. That was a thirty four point
lead they blew in the second half. They gave up
four straight touchdowns fourth quarter and lost forty five forty four. Well, today,
A and M at home engineered the largest comeback win
in school history. Before today, it had been a Johnny

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Menzel team that won a bowl game against Duke fifty
two forty eight. They had rallied from twenty one points down. Today,
they were down at half thirty to three and still
beat South Carolina thirty one to thirty. A and M
the only team undefeated in the SEC. Marcel Reid of
the Aggies three touchdown passes, three turnovers, four hundred and

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thirty nine yards passing South Carolina one in seven in conference.
There was a great graphic they put up during this game.
In the past twenty plus years in SEC conference play,
when a team trails by twenty seven points or more,
they had not come back to win oh and two
eighty six, but a comeback win today. Tonight, Missouri won

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again forty nine twenty seven over Mississippi State. A Mott
Hardy on twenty five carries three hundred year yards rushing
and three scores, and LSU got a home victory against
Arkansas twenty three to twenty two. Arkansas still winless in
the league play. In fact, on Arkansas schedule, they have
six losses by fewer than seven points. That's tied for

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the most by any team in any season since at
least two thousand. Apparently Army had six such close losses
a decade ago. Oklahoma State, winless in the Big Twelve,
lost at home to Kansas State fourteen to six. Arizona
State with a home win twenty five, twenty three against
West Virginia. Penn State with a victory at Michigan State today,

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got two touchdowns fourth quarter pulled away for a twenty
eight to ten win against the Spartans, who are winless
in the Big Ten. Maryland won in six in that
conference after losing twenty four to six at Illinois. Washington
at home pounded Purdue tonight infect Purdue oh to eight
in the Big Ten. With the Penn State victory, that
is its first Power Conference win. Who are the other

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Power Conference teams this season that still have zero victory
against fellow Power Conference opponents? I just named one. Purdue,
Oklahoma State is another. Arkansas with all the close losses,
and there is one other Boston College nearly got a
whole win today. Sixteenth ranked Georgia Tech won on a

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short field goal in the final seconds thirty six thirty
four at BC. Georgia Tech had scored sixteen unanswered points
to start the fourth quarter here. BC this season won
its opener against Fordham. They have lost ten straight since.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
By the way, Bill Bill O'Brien went on a press
conference rant about ten days ago. The guy he was
yelling at I went to high school with fun fact same.

Speaker 5 (01:17:41):
The media member you made.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yes, his name is Michael Terry does. Actually, I don't
know how many beat writers there are for Boston College,
but he's one of them that shows up. And Bill
O'Brien was not happy with the question.

Speaker 5 (01:17:52):
I'm guessing fewer than at the season open.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
What's what I'm saying, like, be happy that anybody's showing
up to your press conferences. But another conversation for another day.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
Six and zero at home after beating Air Force.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I did not realize, By the way, Yukon has never
had a ten win season since joining the FBS. If
they win their season finale and then a bowl game,
they'll get.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
A little man, credit him more. Great job eight and.

Speaker 6 (01:18:15):
Three right now. And the finale is at Florida Atlantic.
That's next Saturday's game. And you're right, they are Bowl
eligible at this point.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
And as we.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
Have seen before, you don't necessarily have to have six
wins and the other things to get to a bowl game.
Virginia and Miami each one. Now, as far as the rankings,
this week, Texas was up to number ten that would
have put them in the playoff. If this had ended
the season, number eleven Oklahoma would not have made the
playoff because the ACC's highest ranked team would have, which

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was number fifteen Miami. Now, a week ago it was
Memphis as the best of the group of five. Oh, okay,
they'll get the last spot. This week it's oh South
Florida's ranked, they'll get the group of Nope, they wound
up losing a Navy. So we'll see when Tuesday night's
ranking come out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
But we have.

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
Virginia and Miami did it each win and that Miami
home win against NC State was forty one to seven.
NC State is a team twenty carries just twenty three
yards rushing that included one sack. Their offense nine first downs,
eight punts. Miami's won two straight after starting two and
two in conference Virginia thirty four to seventeen winner at Duke.

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It was thirty one to three early in the fourth quarter.
Virginia still has just one loss in the ACC as
to Georgia Tech pit SMU and number one Ohio State's
ten and zero. Now after ripping UCLA forty eight to ten,
the Bruins were going with a backup quarterback who'd never
thrown a pass for him tonight because the normal starter,
Nico Eamlaiavo, was out with a concussion. The UCLA offense

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finished with ten drives eight first downs.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Back to you, awesome update to Seger, Thank you for
everything that happened in a busy Saturday across the world
of sports. Good news is we got plenty more to
discuss in the coming hour. Well recap college football and
we will continue to look at just a monster Sunday
in the NFL Lions, Eagles ram Seahawks. We got one

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hour left, so much to discuss. Er Tors, Jason Martin,
Fox Sports Radio, welcome man, everybody our three tours and
Martin Fox Sports Radio we are broadcasting live yes We
are live at one am Eastern time here in the
Fox Sports Radio studios, taking me up till two a m. Eastern.

(01:20:28):
Adam Osland is following us Bernie Fredo with a much
deserved night off. Do wish Bernie was here because there's
not that we don't love Adam Ousland, but a lot
of college football, a lot of NFL would love his perspective.
The Michigan Wolverines, by the way, j Mart, we didn't
even talk about improved to eight and two. Very uninspiring.

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But I'll tell you what they're good. I said this,
and I think I texted to you. I don't think
there is any coach in college football that manages to
win games in ways that inspire his fan base less
than Sharon more real quick I'll tell you a quick

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side story. But I have a buddy who's a huge
He's not really a buddy, he's a lawyer. He's my
lawyer who you know, not that I get in trouble
with the law, but he looks over my contracts all
that stuff. But he's a huge Gator fan, Florida Gator fan.
And even when they got red hot last year in football,
they won a bunch of games late and there was
momentum going into this season. He was like, I don't

(01:21:32):
believe in Billion Napier and He's like, the most frustrating
thing about being a Florida fan in the Billion Napier
era is that even when you win games, you never
win them in the manner where you like feel really good,
Like you never are just a seventeen point favorite against
Mississippi State and you win thirty one to three and

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it's over in the middle of the third quarter and
I'm getting those vibes from Sharon More. They survive north
Western today, we don't necessarily have to spend a ton
of time on Michigan, but multiple missfield goals, multiple interceptions
from Bryce Underwood, including one late that only almost cost
him the game. But they put themselves in a position.
They get the twenty four to twenty two win, but

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twenty four to twenty two win over Northwestern this after
beating Perdue twenty one to sixteen two weeks ago. So
they're a in two. If they beat Maryland, they are
going to be going for what would it be a
fifth straight win over Ohio State, and in their case
with a playoff berth on the line, but yeah, you

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never feel you never leave the stadium, I think feeling
really good if you're if you're a Wolverines fan.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Yeah, but man, at least your winning games. I'm sure
you could still be feeling worse. But I'm not sure
I've ever heard more of like it was sort of
a compliment and sort of not like you're winning games
but no one understands why and no one has faith
and why and it's just like Charme Moore is just
kind of like he's walking across a tightrope. Yep, it

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feels like but he keeps on getting to the other side.
But halfway across, it seems like you see one of
his feet start to kind of tremble, like he's about
to fall off, but he still somehow mix it over
and over again. A lot of coaches would love to
be Charon Moore right now, sure, because they find ways
to lose, whether it's Shane Biemer or James Frankler, whoever
it is, a lot of coaches would love their opportunity

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to be Sharon Moore right now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Yeah, I think the I think yes, a lot of
coaches would love to be A and two. You know,
ask Sark if he'd like to be eight and two,
ask whoever. So it's probably fair, it is, it is.
It ultimately does not matter if by the way, certainly
doesn't matter if he wins his next two because that
would include a win over Ohio State to finish ten

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and two. So we'll see what happens there. We have
plenty of time to discuss the Michigan Wolverines, but let's
go ahead and rip through some of the other big
results from Saturday in college football. It really just say this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
Real quick, just since you wait, since you just mentioned it,
and we we aren't going to talk about it, right,
Ohio State killed somebody else? Yeah, they dominated another team.
I still have no idea what they're going to do
in the playoffs now because I don't think they're talented,
but because I just like they're just floating through the season.
Right they're number one, but the schedule and just how

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easy it's been. How are they going to respond to
adversity because they haven't seen anything even remotely approaching it
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Now, it's totally fair. It was funny I saw so
Steve Hartman was filling in for Martin Weiss before our show.
Steve has a Heisman vote, and you know, I asked
him really quick, hey, where where's the Hartman Heisman poll?
He said something funny. He goes, well, and he is
admittedly a UCLA alum, but he says, well, you know,
UCLI wasn't terrible. They held Julian say in under eighty

(01:24:50):
percent passing, and I was like, I was like, what
what I said?

Speaker 8 (01:24:54):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
That's like saying, oh, you did a good job holding
Luca to forty two, twelve and twelve tonight. But the
point he brought up was Julian saying came into today
at you know, completing over eighty percent of his passes.
And I will say, I think two things on Ohio
State are true, since as you said, we're probably not
going to talk about him until the Michigan game. Is

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what I do think in some ways they're being punished
for how awesome they are, like and I don't mean
punished in the polls, but like as an example, like
there are people out there that are that think that
Jeremiah Smith has been a little bit underwhelming because he
hasn't been on a bunch of Sports Center top tens.
We do understand that right now coming into today Jeremiah

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Smith was tied for second in college football in touchdown catches,
and he is in the number seven in total yards
to go along with sixty five catches, so he is
top seven nationally in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns, and
people are deeming him to have a somewhat underwhelming season.

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I just think that's the Ohio State thing. And I
do agree with you, is that you know, they haven't
played anybody worth a lake and it's not their fault.
And I remember talking about this last year, j mart Is,
these conferences have gotten so big where you're just gonna
miss good teams. And so you look at Ohio State.
They don't play USC, they don't play Oregon, and I

(01:26:21):
think what's really hurt them. Penn State sucks, and like
all of these conversations about the Big Ten kind of
like Oregon right now has no great wins because Penn
State sucks, and you know Ohio State, Penn State was
supposed to be the barometer and then they weren't. And
so I don't disagree with anything you said, but I

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remember talking to you about this last year, is like
these bloated conferences. I just I don't know that we're
gonna get the results that we want just because so
few to like, like, there's just so many matchups that
we're not gonna get by the way, A and M
and the SEC is a per an example of that.
You know, A of them still hasn't been a team

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in the top half of the SEC this year, which
is absolutely crazy to think about. Doesn't mean they're not good,
doesn't mean that some of their wins in the moment
didn't feel good, especially the LSU win. But it's just
it's just the byproduct of where we are with these
bloated schedules, are bloated conferences. And again you look at
at Ohio State, not a ton of great wins on

(01:27:27):
the schedule, No Oregon, no USC, and I guess Michigan
is where though maybe in theory be tested.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
So yeah, I mean, it's just it's amazing. They've been
number one for so long. They've been just mauling everybody
they've played. But I just don't feel like I have
that much information about them yet, Like, yeah, you're right,
Julian saying is what eighty point nine percent completion this season,
He's been phenomenal, But against what, against who, and Michigan.

(01:27:57):
Michigan's a test, yeah, but I don't know how big
of a test we just got. We just spent time
talking about that as a matter of fact. So I
think they're gonna when they get into the College Football Playoff,
We're actually gonna see how good they are. They gonna
be able to turn on a switch they haven't had
to turn on. Are they gonna face adversity? I assume
so somebody is going to put up a fight against

(01:28:19):
them that's unlike anything they've seen all season long, and
that's going to be fascinating to see how they react
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Yeah, it'll be an interesting final three weeks. You know,
we know the history with Michigan. Obviously, the stakes have
changed this year for Ohio State. If they lose, it's
by no means the end of the world. They do
still have the Indiana game too, and I think that's
gonna be a litmus test for them and Indiana. That
would be in the conference championship game. Indiana, by the way,
one again in dominant fashion. Now eleven and oh eight

(01:28:48):
and oh so, I believe I believe Indiana has officially
clinched a spot in the Big Ten. Championship game. I
could be wrong on that because there's I guess, I
don't know. It doesn't really matter, but it looks it's
going to be Indiana, Ohio State in Indianapolis for the
Big Ten championship. All right, let's switch gears and let's
just talk about a couple of the other big games.

(01:29:08):
You know, I think be remiss if we did not
talk about a dominant effort from the Georgia Bulldogs. Tonight,
Georgia goes on and beats Texas in Athens. Final score
in this one was thirty five to ten. The game
changing moment and moments were Georgia up fourteen to ten

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early fourth quarter, convert two fourth downs on the way
to a touchdown. They then proceed to put a surprise
on side kick. They have a surprise on side kick
which they recover, they score there. The game is essentially
over at that point, thirty five to ten win for Georgia,
and all I'll say quickly on this one, Jay mart
I've been critical of Georgia. Narrow win over Tennessee, narrow

(01:29:53):
win over Ole, miss by the way, questionable call against
Auburn on the goal line, questionable against Florida, late in
that game. But the last two weeks they've peaked a
twenty one point win at Mississippi State last week, a
dominant win against Texas. George is going to be in
the playoff. It's just a question of will they be
in the SEC Championship game. Will they be competing for

(01:30:14):
a number one seed. But they are a team that
very much looks like they'll be one of the twelve
teams called on selection Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Yeah. So I heard an anecdote from I guess it
was Andy Staples and Aari Washerman because they were at
that game and they were tailgating before it, and they
were suggesting that it's amazing to listen to this fan
base at Georgia say we don't want to play in
the SEC Championship game.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
It's interesting, right, go ahead, fascinating?

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Go ahead? Is like, there's no, they don't want to
be in that game. And I mean you think you
mentioned Ohio State in Indiana. I'm like, did, They probably
don't want to be there either, Like these these games
are I want to see how these games are played
out once we get to these championship games. But like
Georgia fans do not have any interest in them being

(01:31:01):
in the conference championship game, which tells you all you
need to know about how some things need to be
evaluated going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Yeah, I don't know that we're ever going to get there,
I will say, probbly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Yeah. No.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
A couple couple thoughts on that. That's a very interesting point. One.
I think Georgia fans may more than anybody know the
risk of a conference championship game because Carson Beck had
a season ending injury in the Conference championship right last year.
The other thing is I understand, for say, at a
school like Texas A and M has never been to
the SEC championship game Indiana, whatever I said it last year,

(01:31:36):
I think to me. The other thing too, and it
kind of kills two birds with one stone, is with
the expanded playoff, you're going so late into January that
it felt like the playoff lost juice the deeper that
it got into January, because it eventually at some point
butted up against the NFL playoffs, and so it'll probably

(01:31:58):
never happen. But I'm of the belief cancel the conference
championship games. Not only do I not know what they prove,
but I think conversely, you could put teams don't want
to be there. It does nothing other than at a
trophy to your trophy case. By the way, it especially
does nothing now because remember the four top four seeds

(01:32:20):
go to the four highest ranked teams. It's no longer
just conference champions So last year you could at least
argue you're playing for one of the first four seeds
in a first round. By this year you're not. I
think you eliminate conference championship games. You start the playoff
by the middle of December, and you get that puppy
wrapped up a little bit after New Year's It's probably
not gonna happen. But I think that's an interesting point

(01:32:40):
by you, Jason, that basically even fans are acknowledging, like,
I'd rather not be in the conference championship game, get
the extra rest and ramp up for that twelve team playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Yeah, I'm really interested in the playoffs though this year
I do think that there are there's just gonna be
some really interesting matchups coming out of this, and we
are continueing to see sort of the weed and the
chef separating. Some of these teams are playing their way out,
and there's still some games that are going to win
this field a little bit more. I'm not sure there's
going to be too much to gripe about once we

(01:33:11):
get to it, because everybody has had an opportunity to
show themselves and whoever gets there is going to have
earned it. The teams that will not have And it's
kind of similar to last year. You're just going to
kind of look at it and say, look, you had
your opportunity, you weren't able to get there. That's why
you didn't make it. Even if you think somebody else
should have been there over XYZ, I just don't see

(01:33:32):
a whole lot of hand ringing over it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Well, and I'll say this too, let's stay on the
Saturday games because Alabama, all of a sudden everything's on
the line in that Iron Bowl. You win that game,
you're going to Atlanta for the SEC Championship Game. The
problem is if you lose the Iron Bowl, you're probably
left out of the playoff. And that is because Alabama

(01:33:56):
fell at home to Oklahoma on Saturday afternoon. Oklahoma gets
the twenty three to twenty one win weird game where
Alabama significantly outgained Oklahoma almost two hundred yards more of
total offense, but three turnovers for Oklahoma. Oklahoma forced three
Alabama turnovers, including a pick six Oklahoma wins. They're now

(01:34:20):
eight and two with home games against LSU and Missouri
to close the year. I think, all of a sudden,
they're very much in the playoff picture. And then Alabama
sitting at eight and two, they would play for an
SEC championship game if they win out. The problem is
they got to win out. And you know, you know
this as well as anybody j Mart. They've historically not

(01:34:40):
had a touch. They've struggled at allburn and so we'll
see what happens there. But all of a sudden, Alabama,
the stakes are completely different. Thanks to sixty minutes of
football in tuscaloosive.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Yeah, and I mean everything flipped. Oklahoma found their way.
It looks like Oklahoma's going to be in I mean, yeah,
if you lose to LSU and Missouri, then that's gonna
be on you at that point point. But Alabama finding
themselves in a spot where look that rivalry and the
history behind it, you just never know. And look, this
is Auburn post Q free, so they might have a chance.

(01:35:12):
So I mean, you're gonna have to fight if you're Alabama.
And again, like when we've watched that offense this year,
it's been a little spotty, especially recently for Alabama, and
Auburn possesses a pretty good defense. They're not going to
be able to get away with and they didn't get
away with the GOA to Oklahoma either, But they're not
gonna be able to get away with those kind of
turnovers and mental errors and some of those kinds of things.

(01:35:34):
Like they can get beaten in that game. I do
not think they will, but they're gonna have to play
clean football. I mean, look, the bloom is off the
roads because the coach lost wearing the black hoodie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Yeah sixteen, the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Streak is, the streak is over. And that was also
his first home loss at Alabama, which also gives more
that's a more impressive win for Oklahoma doing it on
the road in the way that they did as well.
But yeah, I mean, the Our Bowl is matters a
lot because if Alabama loses that game, I do not
see them in the playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah, yeah, no, it would take you know, they would
have a very good win over Georgia, but they would
have two very bad wins over Florida. State in Auburn,
and so we'll see what happens there. Some other noteworthy
results from Saturday, just trying to think, you know, we
mentioned it earlier. A and M a twenty seven point

(01:36:28):
halftime deficit overcome to segre gave the stats. SEC teams
were zero and two. Eighty six went traily by that
much at the half rally to win. A and M
now ten and zero. They have Sanford next week and
then they close against Texas. USC probably deserves a little
bit of credit they beat Iowa. They are now eight
into the big game next week by the way three

(01:36:49):
point thirty eastern USC at Oregon. Obviously, if USC were
to win that, the playoff race becomes just as interesting
in the Big Ten. Notre Dame gets a top twenty
five win. Should note there is still one Top fifteen
team playing BYU up thirty seven thirteen on TCU BYU

(01:37:10):
looking to get to nine and one. They are still
in position to play for a Big twelve title. They
would probably need to win the Big Twelve championship game
to get into the College football playoff. Tell you what, Jamart.
Unless there's anything college football related that we missed, I
think we'll come back, and when we do, we'll switch
gears to a loaded week eleven in the NFL. Philly, Detroit,

(01:37:34):
Seattle Rams, all sorts of good games. We're gonna preview
them all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Next.

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some music producer Shay. What game should we talk about first?

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
I'll give it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
I'll leave it up to you. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
Guys, let's go into the night game Lions versus Eagles.
We've got a lot to talk about with this one,
so I thought we should start with this one. Lions
are coming in as actually the underdogs at plus two
and a half with the Eagles coming in at minus
two and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
I'll tell you what, Ja Martin. I'll let you start
because you lived the Aja Brown experience that everyone in
Philadelphia is. I know you got some big bolt on
what the future holds for the Eagles, which the future
does probably will not include aj Brown very much past
this season. But I'll go ahead give you the floor
for this one to start things off.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
He's just he's very, very volatile in terms of his emotions.
And I saw this play out in Nashville. I saw
the discontent begin. I spent it was over money. At first,
it was just it became more and more toxic, but

(01:39:30):
it was cryptic tweets. It was you all to make
it too much out of this. And then it was
the video where it was Ham and Deebo Samuel and
they were talking about money. And it was the offseason
where four wide receivers all got paid, three of whom
are now on New teams as a matter of fact
a few years later. But AJ Brown can get disgruntled,
and especially if you're not winning and he's not feeling

(01:39:53):
like he's being utilized, that's not going to be good.
I mean, look, here's the thing. All the stuff I
just said about him due to to be talented and
he is being underutilized. I'm not exactly sure what's happened there,
but the relationship between him and Jay and Hurts on
the field doesn't seem to exist anymore. You had two
catches for thirteen yards in that Monday night whatever that
game was, where it was like first to seven wins

(01:40:16):
basically is what it felt like. So you know, there
are something to think he's going to have this huge
breakout game and like re emerge on the scene. Based
on what I've seen and what I've covered and what
I've lived, I don't see that at all. I'm not
saying that the Eagles are going to lose a game.
As a matter of fact, I think they probably will

(01:40:37):
win because it's in their house in primetime. It's going
to be you know, forty four degrees somewhere in that neighborhood.
I wouldn't be the least a bit surprised to see
the lines win. I am going to take Philadelphia to
win this. But I don't think the AJ Brown story,
even if he has a decent game, I don't think
that it's over. And I do think that his days
are numbered in Philadelphia because he wants out, and once

(01:40:57):
he wants out, you don't want him around because things
just start getting weird real fast.

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
So I will say Philadelphia as well. They're a roller coaster.
By the way, I don't know if we've talked about this,
Like for all the crap Sirianni gets, seems to hold
that locker room together. He's got a gift for you know,
almost like Mike Tomlin back in the day, just stuff
either doesn't get out or gets handled internally. I definitely
think it's weird. I definitely think it's whatever. I also

(01:41:27):
just think back at home, I do think this is
the right spot. Listen. I like the Lions a little
bit inconsistent two and two in their last four. One
of the losses was obviously in case. The other one
was to the Vikings a few weeks ago when JJ
McCarthy had the late push. Yeah. I as far as

(01:41:47):
the AJ Brown stuff is concerned. Yeah, it's just it's over.
They're the one team, by the way, I don't think
they need the big play receiver, like it's it's a
nice toy to have, but this isn't you know Dak
Prescott the way that he's used in Dallas. It's not
Patrick Mahomes, Like, you don't need that guy in this offense.

(01:42:09):
It's about sa Quan It's about the Toush push. By
the way. I don't know if he saw it. Loved
Dan Campbell's comments on the Toush push because it was
basically my take, which and he basically set out paraphrase
for people who didn't hear it, but he basically said,
I'm a football purist. It's my job to figure out
a way to stop it. If you start taking that out,
what's next. Then all of a sudden, you take two, three,
four things out, it's not football anymore. So I love

(01:42:32):
Dan Campbell's take. I bring it up to Yeah, it
was great. I almost had shape pull the audio, but
I was like, was all this college football, We're not
gonna have time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
But get that you're a football purist, but that's not football.
Take out a bunch of things that don't look like football.
There's that one thing that does not feel like football
and as awful as an entertainment product to watch. That's
what we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
But me and Dan Campbell football purists keep the toush push.
As a matter of fact, Jay has the audio he's
coming through. Here's Dan Campbell on the touch Bush.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Problems with it this year? Is that cause, I mean,
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:43:09):
I don't Well, here's why I'm a purist man. You
take something else out of the game, then we're taking
the next thing out of the game. Then you're taking
another thing out of the game. Then pretty soon we're
not hoping, we don't have pads anymore, and then pretty
soon it's you're only playing thirty minutes, and then pretty
soon it's you know, So that's why I don't want
to take it out of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
There's a.

Speaker 8 (01:43:28):
You know, it's it's something a team's got a niche,
they found something, they're good at it, and it's for
everybody else to stop and uh and it's unique and
it's physical, and I just, more than anything, I just
don't want to take anything else out of the game,
you know, I just want to leave the game alone.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
It's me, me and Dad can leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:43:49):
Leave it in the hands of officials that can't officiate
it properly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
I will say there there are.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Go back to eating, Etcaps.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Stand as you say, there are an abnormal number of
false starts that seem to not get called. Shay, what
game are we doing next? Let's keep going.

Speaker 7 (01:44:05):
Let's go to Minnesota where the two young quarterbacks are
going at each other and Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
J Yeah, go ahead, J Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
I don't know what to make of the Viking right now.
They're just kind of floundering around. And it's not like
McCarthy's done nothing, but I don't know what he is
actually gonna be. But right now he's just very incomplete,
and that team just kind of seems like it's flailing around.
This is one where this is a get right game
for them, because it's a big time game in division,

(01:44:38):
and it's one where the Bears are starting to feel
pretty good about themselves. But I actually think the Bears
are going to go in their house and beat them.
I just do. I think Ben Johnson is going to
go in there with a solid game plan, and I
do think that Caleb Williams has turned the corner a
little bit. I don't see that changing yet. I'm not
sure the Vikings defense is good enough to make it change.
So give me the Bears on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Yeah, so I agree obviously. Look what they're doing this
year is unbelievable. And I think, you know, the JJ
McCarthy thing, it goes without saying. I know, as I
just referenced, he did take care of business against the
Lions a few weeks ago. Last week against Baltimore, twenty
of forty two, one touchdown, two interceptions. Listen, O'Connell's a stud,

(01:45:22):
I get it. But Ben Johnson's a stud too. He's
got Caleb Williams playing clearly significantly better the Bears. The
Bears are hot. After I don't know, fifty years of
finding ways to lose games, they're now finding ways to
win them. I'm gonna go ahead and take the Bears
to win this one as well. By the way, let's
not forget Week one. The Bears had him beat until

(01:45:42):
JJ McCarthy pulled you know, several rabbits out of his
hat in Chicago that first Monday night game. So I'll
take Chicago Shay, what's next.

Speaker 7 (01:45:50):
We got the Kansas City Chiefs taking on the Denver Broncos.
In Denver, the Kansas City Chiefs are five and four
and the Broncos are eight and two. But if I
was to tell you this, Brad, you would think it's opposite,
with the Kansas City Chiefs coming in as favorites with
four points.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Jam a, you're the resident of Broncos, guy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
Broncos are eight and two. But it's not a It's
like a Michigan eight and two. So true. It just
is like, I don't know if Sean Payton trusts Boonicks.
I'm not sure I trust Bonicks right now. At the
same time, he seems to be he seems to come
up big in big time moments for them, and the
defense is just phenomenal. I also think the Chiefs are

(01:46:31):
going to go into Denver and beat them. I don't
think the Chiefs are going out like this. I don't don't.
I don't look at this like a must win game
like some others do. I still think there's time for
them to turn it around. But this just feels like
one of those games where Monday the talking point is
don't bury the Chiefs you're still gonna have to beat
them in the playoffs. I think this is actually going

(01:46:54):
to be a pretty statement performance by the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Yeah, so I'm with you. So the I mean, listen,
three point win over the Raiders last Thursday, three point
win over the Texans. Excuse me one point.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
The Raiders game was one of the worst games, yes,
that anyone could ever watch.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
Exactly, And so I get it. I get that they're
atop the division. By the way, Oh my goodness, Sean Lewis,
who is the San Diego State head coach, just took
off his hat. Guy has the craziest tan line I've
ever seen, like one of those golfer tan lines. Extreme. Anyway,
I'm getting sidetracked. I have a short attention span. Forgive me,
uh broncos I agree with everything you said. And I

(01:47:37):
also just think, like I get why people are saying
the things that they're saying about the Chiefs. The Chiefs
are coming off of a bye, and I do think
if you listen to those guys, it was like Andy
Reid basically was like I gave them the whole week
off because they just needed a hard reset, Like it's
been a grind of a first half of the season.
Obviously you didn't end the first half. You know it's

(01:47:59):
not the first half, but you get the point of
the way that you wanted. And I just think coming
out of a bye, I do think there is something
there against a Denver team that as you're as you
pointed out, j mart has really struggled to close out,
you know, to win games. They've won games, it hasn't
been pretty. I like Casey as well. Let's wrap with

(01:48:20):
Seahawks Rams. Shaye, what's the spread there?

Speaker 7 (01:48:23):
So yeah, we got Seahawks Rams with the Rams coming
in as three and a half point favorites. It did
open up as two and a half though, so it's
moved up to the point.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
So money's coming in on the Rams. I'll be quick,
you know, as mister anti Sam Darnold, I've completely flipped.
I love him, by the way. I think we talked
about this last week. J Martin Jackson Smith and Jigbo
was so good at Ohio State and then got hurt
the last year and so nobody saw it, and so
I just bring it up. I'm happy that he's having

(01:48:54):
his moment. I will also say, yeah, I'll also say
though we've dead wrong on the Rams, like thirty seven times,
and so we have I'll just be quick, Rams are
at home. The Seahawks have lost to basically, you know,
you start looking at who the Seahawks have beat two times.
They've beaten the Cardinals, the Jags, the Texans, the Commanders

(01:49:17):
in that Sunday night game. The point I'm trying to
make I'm gonna take the Rams at home.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Yep, so pretty much everything you just said. By the way,
JSN has over one thousand yards receiving already this season.
I hope this is a great game. I could see
this being a tough day for Darnold and that offense
because the Rams defense has been real good. As good
as the offense has been. We know how good they are.
I mean, Stafford's been amazing and Kyraen Williams has been

(01:49:43):
excellent as well. But this one might be tough because
the Rams are really good at taking the football away
from other teams, and I think that might happen again.
I totally agree with you with the Rams winning at home.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
Loaded Week eleven Slate awesome, Yeah, it is very Are
you excited, all right? You know what else I'm excited about? Well,
I'm not excited that it's the final time we're thrown
at the news desk, but I am excited to hear
what is trending courtesy of our friend Steve.

Speaker 6 (01:50:09):
De Seger, that they call in hockey a save actually
for the scoreboard. Late night college football, just about Everything's
final number twelve BYU Blitz TCU forty four to thirteen.
San Diego State a winner at home seventeen to seven
over Boise State. Washington State beat Louisiana Tech twenty eight three,
and the late game on FS one now has Fresno

(01:50:30):
State at home up seventeen to three on Wyoming about
five and a half minutes to go. Number one Ohio
State is ten and oh after ripping UCLA forty eight ten.
Number two Indiana eleven and oh after its win against
Wisconsin thirty one seven Today it was tied seven to
seven late in the first half. Fernando Mendoza four touchdown passes.
He was twenty two of twenty four two hundred and

(01:50:52):
ninety nine yards. Badgers d had five sacks. Wisconsin's offense
ten drives, eight first downs, the bad one and six
in conference. The Hoosiers are off next week and then
at Purdue. Number three Texas A and M ten and zero.
After trailing thirty to three at halftime, they engineered their
largest comeback in school history to beat South Carolina thirty

(01:51:14):
one to thirty. Game Cocks one and seven in Conference
A and M, the only team undefeated in the SEC.
Number four Alabama lost at home to number eleven Oklahoma
twenty three to twenty one. Sooners led ten to nothing
in the first quarter, each team eight and two. Now,
that early Sooners lead of ten zip came after an
eighty seven yard pick six Oklahoma's defense.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
With four sacks.

Speaker 6 (01:51:36):
The offense had eleven drives twelve first downs, but that
was good enough with three turnovers from Alabama and Bama
missed a thirty six yard field goal at the end
of the first half, eventually lost by two Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Eight and two.

Speaker 6 (01:51:48):
They'll be hosting Missouri and LSU to finish the regular season.
Number five Georgia was at home tonight, beating Texas. It
was fourteen to ten to start the fourth quarter thirty
five ten the final quarterback Hunner Stockton with all five touchdowns.
Texas wound up with nine penalties. Georgia had one. Number
six Texas Tech beat UCF forty eight to nine, let

(01:52:09):
them at the half thirty eight to two. Red Raiders
still just one loss in conference, same as byu UCF
one and six in the Big Twelve Conference. Texas Tech's
only loss came at Arizona State this season. Red Raiders
off next week, then at West Virginia Number seven, Ole
miss with two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, beat Florida
thirty four to twenty four. Gators now three and seven.

(01:52:30):
Key one Lacy thirty one carries two hundred and twenty
four yards rushing three touchdowns for Mississippi number nine. Notre
Dame one at number twenty two Pit thirty seven fifteen.
It wasn't that close fit on third down conversions OH
four thirteen. Pittsburgh plays at Georgia Tech next Saturday. Jeremiah
Love of the Irish one hundred and forty seven yards rushing,

(01:52:50):
including a beautiful early fifty six yard TD. Notre Dame's
final two games are against Syracuse and at Stanford number
thirteen Utah fifty five twenty eight winners at Baylor utes
five and two in the Big Twelve Conference finish up
against Kansas State and at Kansas number fifteen Miami winner
number nineteen Virginia as well and number twenty three Tennessee

(01:53:11):
beat New Mexico State. Sixteenth rank Georgia Tech won at
Boston College on a short field goal in the final seconds.
Thirty six thirty four USC at home trailed Iowa twenty
one seven late first half, who beat him twenty six
twenty one SC six and one in the Big Ten Conference,
and we'll play at six and one Oregon next week.
Michigan wins over Northwestern on a field goal as time expired.

(01:53:34):
The game was at Wrigley Field. The kick went up
through the uprights over the bleachers in right field. W
for the Wolverines, who had five turnovers, two miss field goals,
not a single sack on defense, and Michigan six and
one in conference.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
They'll be at.

Speaker 6 (01:53:49):
Maryland and then host Ohio State. Navy beat number twenty
four South Florida. Arizona won at number twenty five Cincinnati.
Denver running back JK. Dobbins will reportedly have season ending
foot surgery. Lyons tight end Sam Laporta was placed on
ir with a bad back. He'll miss at least four games.
NBA wins for Oklahoma City and the Lakers College Hoops,

(01:54:09):
Yukon beat BYU in Boston eighty six eighty four. Back
to you, Thank you very much, Steve de Saga di Segrea.
Have a great evening tomorrow with the guys. Aren't you happy?
Guys with Oklahoma and Arizona today?

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Well? And really quick? Arnie Spanier is going to the
Yukon Arizona game this week, he texted me, And.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
Arizona just edds Ucla and hoops this week.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Yes, so both teams coming off nice wins. So Arizona
you you kind'll probably be a top five matchup by
the time we get there. I believe Arizona is ranked five.
Those are the Huskies. That doesn't sound like a husky
to me, but Alarne, those are Wildcats. No, no, I'm
kidding all right, Thank you to Sega, have a great
evening and yeah to to Saga's point, Chris planks Oklahoma

(01:54:52):
sooners with the big win. Arnie, listen, say what you
want Arizona seven and three right now as well. We
got to get out of here. One one more segment
will wrap the show. A couple interesting stories that we
have not hit on. Aer Tors Jason Martin, Fox Sports Radio.
Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Tors Jason Martin
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(01:55:13):
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After we get off air. A couple things j mart
as we as we get set to go off air, Uh,
this is kind of interesting. Lank Kiffin again asked about
the situation at Ole Miss. So Ole Miss beats Florida.

(01:55:59):
Ole Miss is now nine and one or they're now
ten in one. Excuse me? They are one game left
in the regular season at Mississippi State. They actually go
into a bye this week, which is kind of interesting.
But he was again asked about his future and specifically
about the Florida job, he said, quote, I love what
we're doing here today. Was awesome. To even talk about

(01:56:21):
it right now would be so disrespectful to our players
and how they played today. We've got a lot of
good things going here, doing really really well. Quote I
love it here. I'm gonna throw it to you in
half a second. J Mart, I just want to say this.
I understand the idea of focusing on the task at hand,
and I understand the idea of when you are a

(01:56:43):
commodity in a negotiation situation, using the leverage that you can.
But if you are dead serious about not taking another job,
just sign a freaking extension. Like I'm almost annoyed by it.
And I'm not even an old miss fan. It's just like,
by the way, Mike Elko signed an extension today, Kurt

(01:57:04):
Signetti has signed an extension. Matt Ruhle has signed an extension.
Don't tell me you have to wait until the end
of the season, which has been his common refrain, is
I don't negotiate during the season. Just sign the extension
if you want to be there. And the longer this
goes on, I'm sorry, but the longer people in the media,
guys like you and I guys, like everybody across the

(01:57:26):
network are going to continue to talk about this, and
there's a very easy way to resolve it, and Lane
Kiffin refuses to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Yeah. Look, I mean he's done everything but the thing
that would make it a non issue. He's done the
one thing, but shut it down even in his comments there. Oh,
it would be disrespectful to even talk about it. That's
not saying no to it. That's as a matter of fact,
it's leaving it wide open. And yeah, you're using your leverage.

(01:57:55):
You're gonna get paid somewhere, whether it's more at Ole
Miss or it's going to be Florida or whatever it's
gonna be. And it's fun to be wanted, and you're
kind of the guy right now, and so that makes
the thing. But yeah, I mean, it's got to be
frustrating for old Miss fans because I feel like a
lot of them already think he's gone and he may
well not be. And look, they'll be fine if he

(01:58:17):
ends ups on the extension at the end of the
year he comes back, they'll fall in love with him
all over it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
This kind of thing happens, and it's a business and
all this other kind of stuff. But if he leaves,
it's just gonna be that much more difficult because he's
just kind of he's beat around the bush in a
way where it's like you feel like he's gonna leave.
So it's gonna be awesome if he if he comes back,
but if not, you're just gonna be sour about it
because he's been so dismissive without actually addressing anything.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
Yeah, that's just I guess my big thing is that
there's just such an easy way to resolve this. And oh,
by the way, you can put it to bed while
you're in negotiations, like Dan Lanning, to his credit, every
single year is linked to a job, and every single
year comes out and says, I am not a candidate anywhere.
I love Oregon. I am not leaving. Do not ask

(01:59:12):
me this again. And so listen to your point, ole miss.
Fans are happy to have him, they know they're lucky
to have him, and they hope he stays forever. But
I understand any frustration of just like we need an
answer right now, we need to resolve this, all right,
I'll tell you what we gotta get out of here.
I want to thank the crew. Mary Mack on the
board producer Shay, we appreciate your help filling in for Ian,
for Steve de Seger and Jason Martin. I'm Aaron Torres.

(01:59:34):
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