Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Get Hyped For The Tourney Championship, Kirk Cousins To The Raiders, Yay Or Nay, And More!!

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he's here. He's my partner every Sunday. Hello Buck, how
are you good Man?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
How you doing? Andy? What's han?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Everything is good? I mean these basketball games, I mean
they go on and on and on. You know what
the to be like? You know, I mean two and
a half hours out of three and a half hours.
You know, it's amazing. The last three four minutes of
the game, last twenty two minutes, It's okay. I mean,
I'm just I'm not complaining. I'm just stating a fact.
I'm not complaining, all right. You know what's complaining today?

(01:15):
I think maybe Arizona's complaining today. And the Arizona fans.
I cannot believe the way they got slocked yesterday by
Michigan ninety one seventy three. I am shocked. I am shocked.
I mean, people, you know, you and I were you
rooting for Houston and I was doing for Houston as well.
I thought Saint John's would go a little further. People
looked like Duke. Maybe. I don't think anybody in their

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right mind really and truly was down planning Arizona and
thinking that Michigan would be going to the finals.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Oh well, I mean I wouldn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I would think that anyone who watched Michigan over the
course of the year knew that they were probably one
of the most explosive team in the tournament, going all
the way back to when they lost to Duke.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I thought, when I watched their game and do one.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I think about five sixty six sixty one. Those are
the two best teams in the country. And I think
what you had a chance to see not only through
the tournament, but over the course of that game against
Arizona last night. They are balanced, like they are big,
they're talented, they can win and with a variety of styles.

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They can play fast, they can play slow, they can
throw it inside, they can shoot from outside.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
They're just a well constructed team.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And the way that they handled Arizona, to me, was
just really really impressive because Arizona's good. Arizona has a
couple of pros that we'll talk about that will probably
get drafted in the next month or so. But Michigan
was clearly the better team. And the thing about it,
I still don't think they played their A game. That's
what's so scary about it.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean, you start the ballgame off in Michigan,
they're all American forward yactual Landenborg. He had two fouls
like in the first five minutes, and then it looked
up he had that injury. Next to the question is
now is you going to play tomorrow night? He says,
you will I'm sure he will, but he was slipping
pretty good. So that was the beginning of the game.
I figured out, Oh, it doesn't look too good. Then
we get the halftime, and this is the key right now.

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I mean, you look at the halftime score. Michigan was
up by like sixteen points in the first half. Long
the Burg played five minutes all right, the front court
was in foul trouble and Elliott Caddou shot two for
fourteen and they're still up by sixteen over Arizona. So
if I'm Arizona right now, I'm scratching my head saying,
what are we going to do? What can we do?

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It's amazing, it really is.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well yeah, I mean it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
It just speaks to the depth that they had, right
They just so loaded that they were able to do it.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
And give dust to may credit.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
There are a lot of people that would have tried
to figure it out when one the starts at two files,
do I make the substitution?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Who I ride with them?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
But when the player got injured Austinburg, as you talked about,
they just continued to find different ways to do it.
Cadeo played well in terms of controlling the pain and
managing the game, making sure the tempo was played at
the temple that they wanted, and they were just on fire.
They shot the ball really well from three. They were
able to get the libs and the inside shots that
they wanted. It was just a fantastic performance from Michigan.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, look, I mean, I will tell you this much.
And again I hear these so called experts saying that
when you get to the NCAA tournament, it's a guard game.
It was the big guys. It was the big guys
that did it. The Arizona Wildcats made like something like
thirty seven percent of the two points. The Michigan size
was the major challenge, and they couldn't do it. They
were disrupting shots in the paint, they were getting second shots,

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getting the offensive boards. It was all an inside game.
It was a game played in the paint, and it
wasn't about the guard play. It really was not.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I mean, it was about the guard play in
terms of being.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Able to get in and out of offensive sets, not
turn the ball over, being able to make the extra
pass in those things. Now, if we talk about guard
play in terms of turning and getting downhill and seeing
if you can get buckets.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, not as much of that.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
But I feel like if you look at the way
college basketball has changed, it has become.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
More inside out.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
The teams that are winning are the teams with the
bigs as much of the three point shooting in those things, like, yes,
they're hitting threes, but it's because the big guys in
the paint are dominated, whether it's a initially going into
him to start the offense and they're getting it on
post ups or on offensive rebounds.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
And second shots and putbacks. In all those things.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's still a guard game because you can't turn the
ball over and win in the tournament, but we're seeing
a big man are playing a more prominent.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Role, right And there was a big man last night
who basically changed the pace of this ballgame for Michigan
day Amara. I mean, this guy was unbelievable seven foot three,
career high twenty six points in the blowout win. And
it was Hey, look the fact that he's no longer
at UCLA. You know, honestly, those UCLA players are saying

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what could have been if we still had this guy here?
But you know what, he was certainly the MVP last
night of the game twenty six points career high.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, yeah, one, he's big and he can post.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Have been the paint But look, you can say that
about a lot of players right The movement and college
basketball is what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
People are changing locations.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
You talk about mar leaving UCLA, I could talk about
Eliet Caddoo, the point guard leaving North Carolina to go
to Michigan. That is part of the game and the
one thing that we could probably say in both of
those instances where they have played like that at their
previous schools, there's something about watching Michigan where Dusty May
and his staff are unlocking different parts of people's game,

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where they're playing to their potential, maybe a potential that
wasn't seen at their first location.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
So give him credit for continue to develop.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Give Dusty Man and the staff credit for finding ways
to get all of those players who are great individuals
to play as a team because ultimately it's their chemistry
and the connectivity that is allowed them to win at
a high level.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Well, honestly, I expected two better ballgames.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It was a shocker to me that Michigan won. I
didn't think they won. I think Arizona was someone cruise
last night. But really and truly they was.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Really why did you think they were cruise? I'm just
I don't know what the number one seeds. I don't
understand why you would think that Michigan recruised. Michigan has
scored ninety points, ninety plus points and four of the
games leading up to it, I just don't understand why
you thought that they were cruised.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
They would I thought they were the most underrated number
one seed in years. They got no respect. Serious, I
really believe that until last night. I gotta believe nationally,
Michigan did not get the respect that they deserved when
I saw them play last night. I haven't seen them
play much this year, so I played a couple of times. Really,
but honestly, all you heard about was schools like Arizona,

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Duke Right, the Blue Blush to some extent. Really, you
didn't hear much about Michigan. You really didn't. I don't
know why. They're great. They're a great ball club, and
they're gonna give Yukon fits tomorrow. They really will.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
See, because I thought those three teams, I thought it
would be a better game.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I thought it'd be a tighter game.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
But to me, the three teams going into the tournament
that were the favorites were Michigan, Arizona, and Duke because
those are the teams that I felt like rotated at
the top one, two, and three the entire season. I
expected a game that was gonna be a nail bier.
I did not expect it to be lopsided like that.
And some of it was Michigan got out to such

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a fast start that I mean they were Arizona was
climbing uphill the entire game. Yeah, but I felt like
Michigan was going to be I felt like it was
going to be a thing. And when I listened last well,
over the course of the week, I listened to Mick
Cronin talk about the matchup, and he talked about all
of those teams in the four, and the one thing
that he talked about, Michigan has more explosive potential than

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any of the team that was left in the final four,
and that they can go to a level that other
teams couldn't.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
And I think what we saw.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Last night was them going to another level that maybe
Arizona wasn't prepared to face.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well, I want to talk about Connecticut for a second.
I mean, you talk about lopsided. Connecticut's going back to
the National championship game again. Okay, they beat Illinois seventy
one sixty two, and they were leading like fifty seven
forty three in the second half. It was really not
much of a contest. Down the stretcher came a little closer.
With about fifty six to go in the football game,
the man of the hour of Braylan Mullins had a

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three pointer and that basically opened it up to sixty
six fifty nine. And I got to ask this now,
because this is the question of the day. You can
talk about games and what happened, how they shoot, shooting
percentages of all that garbage. Okay, everybody's going to get
into that. I want to know why and how is
Connecticut so good year in and year out. So I'm
doing a little bit of research and say why is

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this school all of it? I mean back to Jim Calhoun,
and really, you give it. You got to give Dan
Hurley credit because every time he's talking to the media,
he says, we have great tradition, great culture, going back
to Jim Calhoun and Kevin Allie and all these past coaches.
So it's not something this happened overnight. Connecticut has been there,
and I'm going to call them a blue blood right now.
They really are. But the Connecticut is the only football

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BOWLD Subdivision the school in the country that spends more
money on basketball than on football. And that's why they're winning.
You con spend more than thirty four million dollars on
its men's and women's basketball teams compared with twenty point
five million on the football team. That's why they win. Okay,
coaching has a lot to do with it. And sometimes
you got a school that has a coach coach a

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Heeley's all of a sudden, the team goes down the cropper.
They have coaches leaving all the time and they still
stay on top.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well damn had that many coaches leave.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
I mean it was Jim Yohum, Yeah, Kevin Ali and
then Danny Hurley. And what I would say about Yukon
is Yukon definitely has become a blue bud. The Yukon
might be the best basketball program in college basketball over
the last twenty five years if you look at the
number of titles that they've won, how they dominated, and
what they're doing currently. On the Dan Hiley, like three

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title games in the last four years is crazy. I'll
say a few different things are working in their favor. Look,
they're football in those things, but they certainly have invested
in basketball. They do have a intriguing and interesting tradition
when it comes.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
To what they're doing in basketball.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Danny Hurley has done a great job of kind of
picking up the baton from like whatever the Kevin Ali
era was.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Where he won a title, Jim Can who won a
few titles.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
There's a toughness and inherent toughness about Yukon basketball. There's
an inherent toughness in the program that Danny Hurley's created
where look, man, they're old school throwback program. They coach
them hard, they get after it. They believe in discipline
and detail. They aren't me centric. They're very much about

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the collective and that is worked. And I will give
him credit for as as wild and as volatile as
he looks on the sideline, I would say that he
is a great tactical coach, but an even better I
would say like in terms of his emotional intelligence and
feel for his team. He gets after him, but they
know that he loves them and because of that he

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can push them harder than maybe most coaches will be
able to push their unit.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And more than that, I mean, he comes up. He
doesn't look. The media out there is looking for drama.
They're looking for a soap opera story. Okay, you got
to go behind the curtain. Say, this guy puts together
a hell of a game plan here. Really, he knows
the game of basketball. And I'll tell you what. I
go back to Danny Hurley when he was coaching Wagner College. Okay,
nine out of ten people in America don't even know
where to help Wagner College is. It's in Staten Island,

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New York, and it's a Division one school. And he
wanted to Wagner College. So you knew he's got the pedigree.
His daddy was a great coach in high school. So
the point is that he knows the game, he knows
how to coach the game, and he relates to these
kids very well. Look, they turned the ball over just
four times yesterday. Okay, they take care of the basketball.
That's it. There's a lot of disruption on the part

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of Illinois because of the defense that he created on
his Connecticut ball club. That's what he did. It's not
that difficult there really is. He knows the game, he
loves the game, and he has the right players to
fit in his system.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Yes, I would say the system absolutely helps. He does
have the right players. But here's the thing about a system.
A system that you create is one that you have
to recruit to. They don't change, they don't deviate. They've
had success, so they've been able to get better players.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
But we get talking about.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
All the players that they've gotten in all that stuff,
but the players know when they go to Yukon what
they're getting, and they're getting a hard nosed, edgy coach
who is going to demand a lot from them, and
they want that. And he's very adamant about who they
go after and the type of kid they go after.
To me, it reminds me very much of how the

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San Antonio Spurs won for a long time under Greg Popovich.
They're unrelenting and what they believe in. They don't bow
down to the talent of the players or their parents.
And when you go there, you know what it is.
And I think it's very clear to win when you
have that kind of bite. And because they've been successful,
they're even more embold than to operate the program like that,

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which is what you love to see.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I'm gonna go one step further. I'm gonna say this,
what he has accomplished at Connecticut in a short time
no less, okay, and in a short time, to me,
is more impressive what is done at UCLA under John Wood.
And I'm sorry I upset people, and people canna say,
what are you crazy? You know why because what UCLA
did was tremendous and you can't erase what they did.
But when they did it, there was only a twelve
team tournament. Really, I mean, right now, what he has

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done is somewhat amazing. I mean, people do not realize
what Connecticut has done. I think it's great.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Last night, Illinois found that they shot thirty four percent
from the field. So the announcers will say they had
an off shooting night. No, the pressure of Connecticut's defense
forced them to shoot thirty four percent. That's why I
shot thirty four percent, not because their shooting was off,
but had a bad shooting. Yeah, they had a big
shooting night because of if you've got to finish the sentence, announcers,
because of Connecticut's defense. That's why I shot thirty four percent.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I mean, yeah, the defense, certainly you played a big part,
and you know why Illinois didn't shoot well and that stuff,
but that's always a part of the thing when you're
dealing with Yukon. Yukon is built on toughness and grittiness,
and they're gonna get in your shirts. They're gonna play defense,
they're gonna force you to shoot over the top of
the defense. They're gonna make you play a little, They're
gonna make you uncomfortable based on the way that they

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get after it. I would say this Illinois made a
look at man, a valiant effort, a great run to
come back, take the league, and those things.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
But Yukon is a champ.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And because Yukon has a championship pedigree where they've won
titles recently, there is a different confidence when it comes
to getting in this part of the tournament, And not
only with Dania Harally in the staff, but with some
of the players. They know that when they're this close,

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they kind of know how to get it done.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
And the stage is big and the lights are bright.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
But the more you're on those stages and under those lights,
the more comfortable you become. And Yukon is very comfortable
being in this spot, being in the championship game taking
on I would say challengers that were probably favored because
I would think Illinois was favored in that game and
they's certainly gonna be the underdogs against Michigan.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
But I think if you Yukon, you don't have any
fear going into these games.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Learnt about the matchups in those things, as they would say, Man,
where you got right?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
I mean there's a certain attitudes, like players aspire to
get to the Final four and they're happy to be there.
A team like Connecticut and the players that are instilled
by their coach like, not only we're getting to the
Final four, we're gonna win, We're gonna win. You know,
that's the attitude they have. It makes a difference. They
have a bit of a chip on their shoulder because
they know they're going to win. The confidence factor. Other

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teams are somewhat relieved that they finally made the final four.
They're not happy with that. They want to win. I mean,
we'd have to mention another big man terrorist Reed Junior
finished with seventeen points and eleven boards yesterday. I mean,
he's another underrated guy who's a hell of a player.
He really is.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Big.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, big man. You have to give them credit.
Poor you know, find a way to get the ball.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, I lost you. I lost you there for a second.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, I'm back you hear.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
You got me now just one more time, because I
think I said I said in these games.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Is about effort, execution, and toughness, and they have been
able to check off the boxes in all those areas.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I am so sorry. Really, I don't know what happened.
They was, you know, me dozed off or something. Sorry. However,
the big story over the weekend was not those games.
It really wasn't. Uh. It's exactly what the women's teams
really needed, Gino and Dawn. They gave it to him.
That's the drama, that's the soap op that everybody wanted. Okay,
and obviously Connecticut the women's team took it on the

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chin from down Staley on in South Carolina, and honestly,
Gino almost took it on the chin with a fist
from down Staley, but she said, I'll get kick your ass.
That she said, and it's all about a handshak and
then Gino came back and apologized. But let's take a
listen about do you know gin know talking about the handshake.
Let's do that.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
The protocol is before the game, you meet a half court.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Two coaches meet at half court and they shake hands.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Dan Anson on the loudspeaker, and I waited there for
like three minutes.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Connecticut Women's coaching Oria claiming that down Staley didn't come
out and shake. Now, I read a couple of reports
saying that she did shake his hand prior to the game,
all right, and then after the game, all hell broke
loose because he's yelling and screaming that one of his
players had her jersey ripped off. She was at the
postgame news conference and said she was upset and she

(18:38):
tore it herself, I mean. And then yesterday he came
out with a statement. He didn't say it. It was
a statement which I'm sure was written by someone else,
not by him, at the request. Probably if the athletic
director and or the president of the University of Connecticut
say you got to back off and grow up, because
I think he's either a sol loser, he hates Don Staley,
or does something wrong with him, one of the three.

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Take a pick.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It was all three. So what happened. I haven't watched
the game.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
It is customary for the coaches to shake hands and
kind of like a ceremonious deal at half court right
before the game. What had happened prior to that point,
Don Staley had gone down the line, had shook everybody, saying,
Gino's the assistant coaches in those things. When they came
out to have the ceremony. He then stepped to the

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mid court to wait for her. She didn't come out.
Maybe she was talking to her team or whatever. In
her mind, she was like, look, we already shook hands,
we already did all this stuff, like now it's time
to play. And then after the game, Gino certainly took
umbrage with whatever her not coming out.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
And then.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
When he made mention of in like order he was
having an interview with Holly Row, he made mention of
his player having her shirt ripped in those things, but
he didn't say that she ripped her own shirt.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
He painted a picture.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Where South Carolina was overwhelming and bullying them, and Don
stated was berating the officials and the calls were going
in South Carolina's favor because Dawn was working the refs.
But really what it comes down to is, look, they
got whooped.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
They beat them up.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
South Carolina beat Yukon up from beginning to end. And
this was avenging a loss last year in the finals where.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yukon destroyed them.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
It seemed like it might have been a forty point
win for Yukon last year in the final. South Carolina
backed it up, came back, outplayed them, forced Yukon to
play on their terms. The game was certainly physical, but look, man,
in these games in the tournament, normally the refs get
out the way and this is how South Carolina plays,

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and so if it's played on their terms, they were
able to dictate it and they were able to make
Yukon very uncomfortable over the course of the game. In
South Carolina won it. It was South Carolina playing much
better than Yukon, and he was frustrated by the outcome
by what he saw, and his frustration spilled out. But
I will say this, at no point should he ever

(21:08):
have done what he did to Dawn Staley. It was
not only disrespectful, but it was a lack of sportsmanship.
So for him in the post game to talk about
sportsmanship and how he teaches his teams.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
His words did not mak his actions, and.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
The apology is a hollow one because he didn't say it.
He is a statement, and during that statement, he didn't
really apologize to Dawn. It was definitely a pr effort,
not one that had enough sincerity for my liking.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I'm going to go one step further if I may. Okay,
when I look at a coach, especially on the college level,
he's more of a coach. He's a teacher. He represents
not only the program, but he represents the school that
he works for. I think it was embarrassing what he
did for the school. It really was. If I'm a
president and or athletic direct there, you got to punish
this guy. He put a damper on the school. And
what message do you send out not only to your team,

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but to young kids that are looking watching the game
and saying, well, if he could do it, why can't
I do it. I will say one last thing, if
I may, If they ever got into the ring, my
money's on Dawn Stilly to kick his rear in because
I think she could. How's that?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I mean, look, it wasn't a great message, but some
of this is when you have two great programs and
two very competitive coaches. You're gonna have some of this,
so a lot of it is overblown. I didn't like
the way that he handled it because of this lack
of sportsmanship.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
But it's gonna be like that.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's gonna be contentious, and rivalries should have a level
of tension that they had when they matched up.

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Speaker 2 (24:36):
Here he is my partner, Bucket Brooks. Let's get into
this for a second. We kind of touched on that
Dawn Staleia genrrim A deal with the Yukon South Carolina game.
You know, honestly, there's a difference in these games, the
men's and the women's, and I think at this point
in time, it may be more enjoyable to watch the
women's game than the men's game. It's more of a

(24:56):
game where it's fundamental basketball, but the balance to power
I think, and the women's game is a little lopside
of bigos. You have Yukon, South Carolina, UCLA and those
are all favorites in the finals, and basically after that
is the rest of the pack, where in the men's
game there's still some questions who's gonna sneak in?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I mean a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
But then when you look at the men's game, you
look at the seeds. Illinois was a three seed, Yukon
was a two seed, Arizona Michigan were one seeds. So
it's not like we have these Cinderella stories in the
men's side. Yeah, but the women's side that haves is
definitely significantly.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Better than they have nots. But the game is more competitive.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
You just don't have like those Cinderella stories that some
people want to see. I think at the end of
the day, on both sides, you want to see the
best teams and the best coaches in the final games.
And there's no doubt on the women's side you saw
the best all the number one seeds are there.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
It is.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Matchups between great players and great coaches.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
It is a different game to watch.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
The men and the women, and people talk about better
and the fundamentals and those things. Yeah, like the fundamentals
are different because they can't play above the rim.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
There is more passing and cutting.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
You are seeing physical defense because for everyone who talks
about the Yukon South Carolina game being.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Ugly, it was just as.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Ugly or defensive oriented as the UCLA Texas game.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
You can get some of that.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
When you have intense teams playing physical defense, challenging people
on every shot. Sometimes it's not going to be esthetically
pleasing to the eye.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Right, Okay, now that Arizona is off the board and
they're out there, we gotta get a little personal with you, Buck,
because you're Alma mater right now. Was targeting Tommy Lloyd,
the Arizona coach, as the next coach in North Carolina.
But he just signed a new deal with Arizona. So
what have you heard? When does that leave the tar
Heels now looking for a basketball coach? And I gotta
believe with the way they fired Hubert Davis is not

(26:59):
going to make it eat. She's left to hire a
guy that goes takes you Wait a minute, you know,
unless you go deep in the tournament, you're not gonna
have a job here. I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving.
There's almost too much pressure there to go to North Carolina.
I think it's to scare a lot of coaches away.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
I don't know if there's too much pressure those things.
I would say that what Carolina is getting is a
nice dose of humble pie, much like Kentucky got when
they moved on from John Calipari, and they assumed that
all of these great coaches want to just come to
the university because of what the university has done in
the past.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
That has not played out.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I firmly believe from the jump that a lot of
people were going to use this job to parla it
into other contract extensions significantly more money and more control
at their respective spots.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
And that's what we've seen.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
The names have been repeated, like from the Florida coach
Todatos at Alabama to Tommy Lloyd to Dusty Maye was
a candidate, all of these great guys, and none of
those guys are leaving now. Carolina is stuck in a
situation where unless they hire somebody, they're not going to
hire someone who right now has a better track record
than the coach that they fired. That paints them into

(28:07):
a corner. I don't know where they go. They talk
about Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan came out and said he's
not gonna talk about any jobs until after the Chicago
Bulls season commences on the twelfth. That's another week the
porter opens. I think like after the final game this week.
It's not great, it's not a great look, but this
is what happens when you allow and we knew this

(28:28):
would happen when it's paid for play and you are
solictening money from fans and donors. They have a bigger say,
and they also are emotional because that's what fans are.
But because you're tied to them with the money, you
have to listen to it. So they fire Hubert and
we can debate whether Hubert was deserving or being fired
or not.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
He's fired.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
But now what you said, oh, we can get a
better coach, We're going to get a championship level coach.
Waiting to see if that's going to happen because right
now the candidates that are out there, it's not a
championship level coach that has approving track record of being
a title coach. That is going to guarantee is that
these can get to the final four each and every year,
like we demand.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
I tell you what they look. Tommy Loud was like
a one on the on the list, he's gone because
he resigned. A two was probably no.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
No.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
The way it was going to order was it was
Tommy Lloyd, Dusty Made they were the front runners. Billy
Donovan is behind it, NATO's like and golden to coach
from Florida dead already turned it down or like that
that was it. So we've been waiting looking at the
final four to see which of these coaches was going
to be the North Carolina coach.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Neither one of them.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Because Tommy Lloyd resigned a deal and Dusty May's in
the championship, it is very unlikely that he was going
to leave. The names that are being talked about now
Ben McCallum from Iowa. He is from Iowa. Iowa was
his dream job. He ain't leaving, right, so you don't
have him. They can talk about Binnington, the Vanderbilt coach,
and he's been fine, but he's won one NCAA tournament game.

(30:04):
That's not a significant upgrade that you're selling me. You know,
he was at another place. He's been to the tournament some,
but it took a while for them to get going. Now,
most recently the Texas Tech coach granted his first name.
They're talking about him, but once again, you don't have
a championship level like he's not championship level coach in
terms of like what.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
He's done on his resume, he hasn't got to it.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
And even in timmy Lord, who I liked as a candidate,
this is the first time timmy Lord has ever got
passed since Weet sixteen.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
It's the first time that they've been in the final four.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
So now you're stuck in a situation where I don't
know if you can guarantee the fan base that the
coach that you're bringing in is a significant upgrade over
the coach that you fired, and that is never good.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
The coach of Saint Louis has been mentioned. I tell
you right now, I don't think that's going to bode
well for the alums in North Carolina. They won a
guy with a name from a big name school, and
I don't think it's going to happen. So they're gonna
have to go to a lesser level. Who's a guy
who's won at a lesser level and hopefully that guy
could come in here and really win at North Carolina.

(31:09):
Then it's difficult because when you're at a lesser level school,
your eye is looking for, let's face it, not five
star talent, maybe four star talent. So you got to
get your eye up to five star talent because that's
where North Carolina is, right, That's exactly what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Whoever it is.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
You have to have a track recular success, and you
struck out on all the big names that you were
promising or that you were salivating over in those scenes,
and then you got to reset. You have to kind
of take the egg off your face and just focus
on getting the best coach that you can get. But
I will say this, when you make these moves, particularly
emotional moves, after a nineteen point loss to VCU and

(31:50):
all this other stuff, like you jumped out there and
you put yourself out there with not having a full plan,
a fully big planed on who you're going to getting,
how you're going to get them, and so to me,
it was a it was a bad move in terms
of if you don't have this thing lockstock and barrel,
what are you doing? And now what are you doing
face because no one knows they can talk about like,

(32:11):
oh we have these, no one knows. Now you're scrambling
trying to find the coach and it's just a bad
look for North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know what, bub Bubba cunning here doesn't care. He's retiring.
He's the athletic director. He probably put the stamp on
it that that Hubert was fired, although I'm sure there's
a lot of a lum pressure to get him fired.
But Bubba's going out the door. He's going fishing. You
don't care. He won't even be involved with the new coach.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Nah, But like it's not even that.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Steve Newmark is the new general manager. He I mean
the new ad. He comes with a nasty car background.
And I'll say this, and every major program is dealing
with this. The donors, the boosters, the border trustees are
heavily involved because they control the purse strings, and when
you're soliciting money from them each and.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Every year, they want to have a greater voice.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And so all it takes is a few of those
guys to voice up to say that we can get better.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
We gonna do better.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm not given money until I get what I want
in terms of what I see on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Then you have to make.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Those moves because now schools are more beholden to the
boosters and the donors than ever, and the big money
people are controlling and running everything. And now it's on
the big money people to find.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
A way to get a good coach. So we can
talk about the ad.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's a little bit about the AD and more about
the donors and boosters. We'll see, but right now it's
embarrassing and it's not a great look for the university.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Right. I'm really surprised now I mentioned the president, President
Donald Trump has signed an executive Order of court Urgent
National Action to save college sports. I don't think we
have to save college sports. I think we want to
maybe change them a little bit, but not save them.
That they're not in that dire need. They're not in
the dire strait. But the order says that university should
provide for the ability to transfer one time during the

(33:54):
five year eligibility period, which I like, and I think
John Caliperi has gone vocal with that and other have
done that as well. I like that one transfer deal.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 1 (34:03):
No, I hate it. He shouldn't be involved in it.
That's not ell.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
He shouldn't be involved.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
I agree he shouldn't be involved.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Like that, they can't go through it, and it's a
much longer conversation than we can have in this break.
But I will say this, until the powers that be
involve the students and have a collective bargaining agreement where
they treat the students as they are employees and they
can negotiate salary caps in those things, it's not gonna work.
What they want is the two face to go back

(34:29):
into two and it's not. Now that the money's out there,
you have to negotiate with the student athletes because if
you take it to court, it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Be struck down in the court of law. You can
do it. It's not gonna happen like it's a lot
much to do about nothing. That's what this is, right.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
We got more on that. We'll hold that for a
little bit. Put that in the back room for a second.
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Speaker 1 (35:40):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (35:40):
I am ready, I was born ready for this.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
Give it time to ask our favorite analyst, Bucky Brooks
buck what's going on?

Speaker 7 (35:47):
Good morning? I got a question for you too. So
my first let's do it all right.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
So the first one here is actually in NFC West related, No,
not Seattle, but close.

Speaker 7 (35:58):
We have the RAMS.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
So with the Pooka Nakua, just the ongoing drama saga
that's going on with him. My question to you with
Pooka is do you think this is going to largely
impact him re signing and getting a massive extension with
the RAMS if at all?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yes, it has to, because you got to make sure
that you can trust a player that you're about to
lavish a big contract will So it's gonna be really
important the way that he handles the reab but more
so I mean the reapp center, the stuff that he
learns from that and how he handles himself coming out
of it. He can't be involved in the dust as
he's been involved in of late. He has to make

(36:36):
sure that if we're gonna pay you as a franchise player,
we can trust you to be a franchise player.

Speaker 7 (36:41):
No, I agree with that. That's a good answer. I agree.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Moving on here, So, okay, a debate has resurfaced in
barrooms and also on social media. Has Major League Baseball
overtaken the National Basketball Association as America's number two league?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yes? Or knowing that Buck, that'd be No, it's still basketball.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Like people may hate the regular season when it comes
to the NBA, but they still tune in when it
comes to the playoffs. Baseball is really challenging to follow.
It has increased in popularity, but until we're able to
get baseball to kind of I would say, loosen up
some of those unwritten rules and it feels like the
World Baseball Classic, you won't fully get everyone on board

(37:24):
to tune in each and every night when baseball is on.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Yeah, I would agree with that too. Actually, and all right,
here we go with College.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
So Alabama athletic director Greg Brn said the SEC championship
game should be no more. He said, actually go directly
from the regular season to the college football playoff.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I mean, I'm okay with that, Like it doesn't matter.
But what I need I need to make sure that
everyone is on.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
A level playing field.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
If they're talking about playing nine league games, all of
the powerful conferences need to play nine league games so
we can have.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Equality all the way across the board.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
And if we're not going to play the championship games,
then we need to start to playoff earlier. It can't
go as long as it went into January. Let's wrap
this up and get it done by January first.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, for sure, for sure. All right, So, guys, being
tall has its perks. I know I'm six foot, but
a growing body of research suggests that people of smaller
stature may enjoy surprising health benefits.

Speaker 7 (38:27):
It could even help them live longer. Smaller frames may
work in your.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Favor, how well, lower cancer risk, less likely to get
a blood clot, also less likely you know, to break
a hip, more likely to live longer.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
What do you think about that? Buck?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And you got a pit a chance of being a jockey. Fair,
that's I guess.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
So.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
I mean, if you want to be a small guy,
fun sized like, that's cool. But I wouldn't trade being taller,
like I'm over six foot. I wouldn't trade being a
six foot of taller. I mean, but there's plenty of
small people on the planet, and if small people are
living longer, there's something to be envious.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
But I'm good on this side.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
You know what, Buck, I'm also good on this side.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
You know, when I was a kid, like when I
was like in junior high school, I went to the
doctor for the check up, and I asked him if
anybody I could take shots, I could be a seventh footer.
I wanted to be a seven footer really, So if
I was a seventh footer, I wouldn't be talking to
you guy. I'd be in the NBA. I would be
That's bad, I promise you. Why laughing? Why are you

(39:26):
guys laughing at me?

Speaker 7 (39:27):
I've been though.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
We're laughing with you, Andy. I personally wanted to be
six six six.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I want going to be seven feet.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
I wanted to be kind of like Lebron James. I'd
just be like, that'd be cool. Just but WHOA, But
I digress.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Yeah, I mean it'd be hard to find clothes Andy.

Speaker 7 (39:45):
True, that's true. That's true. All right? So one more.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
One hardcore England fan hopes to sell a house to
fund his World Cup trip this summer.

Speaker 7 (39:54):
Would you do that? Buck?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I mean I like World Cup, but not enough to
give it up for tickets. There's no sporting event that
I would give up a significant parts of my life
to go see. So I'm good it's gonna be broadcast
on TV or streamed.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I'll watch it there.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I want to meet that guy. Do you have his name?
Because I want to get a hold of him. He
needs a good psychiatrist. Really, sell your house for tickets
for the World Cup? Are you out of your freaking mind? Really?
I mean, what you talking about fans being crazy? This
guy's is a lunatic. I don't get it. You know,
if you get a hundred people, I asked one hundred
people that question, doing you think? Like ninety nine would

(40:32):
laugh and say what are you talking about? I don't
get it. Who knows? But Bucky says one quarterback is
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(40:52):
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How you doing, buck Have a happy Easter to you
and your family.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Hey, thanks so much, Andy, happy you said to all
of the people that celebrate. That's a great Sunday.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yes it is. It's a wonderful Sunday. And basically, we
got the women's championship game today. And by the way,
just to let you know the kind of guy he is,
Travis Steele, the coach of Miami University of Ohio, who
was our guest. I think two weeks ago, he said
us a text thanking us for having him on as
a guest. That to me is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
You know the amount of people who guessed and he
asked people to do something, go out of their way,
and you don't usually get that kind of feedback. So
I just want to personally thank Travis Steele. Let the
public know the kind of guy he is not. The
good news. The bad news is I read this week
that two of his players have already entered the portal.
You know, I feel bad. You know what, though, if
I'm Travis Steele and maybe this is really way out there,

(42:10):
I throw my nan out in the ring. Because what
he had this year was one of those dream seasons. Well,
I would have to guess that it may not happen again,
or it may not happen for a while.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
No, probably not.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I mean, but you just don't know, Like in today's era,
you just don't know how people sustain it.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Every year. You got to treat differently.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
You can't assume that momentum means anything because you're gonna
have some movement. You have to rebuild and recreate your
team each and every year.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
We'll see if he's able to do it.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Their success last this year doesn't guarantee success next year,
but it should give them an opportunity to get some
different recruits because of the attention they received. And people
will either view that as hey, that's great, that's a
step up for me. I want to be a part
of that, or this is be a great place for
me to go to use as a launch pad to
something even bigger and better.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's the way it should be, But that's the way
it's not, because right now, what it's all about is
those two kids are in the portal. Let's think that
maybe they were getting one hundred grand if best at
Miami and they put their name in the portal when
they could probably triple that. Maybe you got a half
a mill, maybe a million at another school.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
That's what it's all about right now, and that's why
I guess we kind of touched on it in the
last hour. President Trump is obviously trying to change the
landscape of college athletics, which I don't even know why
he's involved with that, but I'll give you an example,
and this kind of made me crazy. It's about Iowa
State and the women's team. Okay, They lost to Syracuse
in the first round, all right, and it was kind

(43:39):
of a offbeat season. But now they have nine players
going into the transfer portal. I mean, come on, they
gotta start from scratch. I mean they start players out
there as well. I mean, what do you do if
you're a coach? Now? Are they leaving because they lost?
Are they leaving because they think they can get more money?
Are they leaving because they disliked the coach? I don't
know why, but I got to believe that these women

(43:59):
are that team banded together. It wasn't one individual city
and it just happened to have eight others do it.
They all got together, say you know what, let's bolt,
let's go. And maybe they're all going to go to
one program. I don't know, but to have nine and
one shots, I don't think it's good for the sport.
I mean there's a lot. I love the sport. I
love watching basketball, I love watching all sports. That's what
I do, and I do love it. But it has

(44:22):
changed so dramatically that I've got to sow a spot
in when I watch these games. We'll watch the men's game.
I can't even pronounce these players' names. They come from
countries I never heard of. All right, they never would
enter college here in our country if they didn't play basketball.
Is that fair? Is it right? I don't know. Are
they taking up a spot that a student who applied
couldn't get in? I don't know. I have a lot

(44:44):
of questions about the way the system works. Now. I
love the game. The game is great men and women.
But what's happening right now is it's got to be changed.
It's not right, and it's killing schools like Miami.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I'll say this, we operate in a capitalistic society. You
and I can be great on Fox Sports Radio. However,
if we're so great that another entity, say Serious, wanted
to come and poach us, and they wanted to pay
us significantly more money, Andy, you and I would have
to have a discussion on whether we want to pursue

(45:18):
a greater opportunity.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
What is happening now is business and college.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Sports and the amateurism ide. The amateurism narrative that we've been.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Sold is no longer true. It's not amateurism.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
This is business and people have to get used to
it being big business. Even though I love student athletes
and the opportunities for education, and I'm an advocate for education.
Right now, college sports are business, and the people that
are mad at the player of movement should be just
as mad about coaches and athletic directors and everybody else

(45:55):
who benefits from the things that happen on the field.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
To personally enrid themselves.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
We cannot be mad at the student athletes for taking
advantage of the same opportunities that those above them have
taken advantage of for years.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
And if we want.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
To squash it, then we have to quit hiding behind
the facade of college sports being amateurism, this educational opportunity and.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Treat it for what it is business.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
It is a billion dollar industry, and the students, the
athletes have to be a part of the negotiating. So
if you want to bring them to the table, call
them employees, sign them to a collective bargaining agreement where
we can set some terms in terms of what they
can and cannot do. Cool, But right now colleges are
reluctant to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
So you cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Well. I understand what you're saying, and I agree somewhat.
I'll tell you why we cannot use the term amateurism anymore.
They're not amateurs, they're pros. They don't even have athletic
there's a useless Now they have general managers. Now colleges
have general managers to handle their budget. Okay, so the
term student athlete is a misnomer. Don't call them student

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athletes anymore. And that's the problem I have. If you're
running an institution, if you're running a college, the president
of the college must be scratching his head every day saying,
what do we have here? These kids are not I
promise you that these kids will not get a degree.
These kids are not going to class. I'm not one
of those guys that pooh poohs that I get it.
You know, I worked in college. I saw what happens

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when you're an athlete. It's tough. It's tough to manage
both school work and practice, it really is. But right
now it's gone to another level because it's not even
a school anymore. It's a pro team where you wear
the school's colors. That's what it is. And it's a joke. Really,
you know, don't take up the room in the classroom.
Then let them just go to the school. Let the
school pay them to play and they represent the school.

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It's like a semi pro team. But don't take up
school work or don't take up space in the classroom
because they're not going to class anyway. They're not getting
a degree and they're not going there to get a degree.
When you transfer three or four times or five times,
there's no way on God's green earth, you're going to
get a degree. And I remember, and I've said this
several times when I was going to college. If I

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want them to transfer from school, lay to school, be
if I'm an athlete, you have to sit out a
year and you're going to lose credits. That doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Now, it doesn't happen. But if you're a regular student,
you wouldn't lose credits. If you're a regular student, you
wouldn't lose a year of being able to go to
the classroom. So why should the student athletes be penalized
for transferring if as a regular student you could transfer.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
So what we're saying is, if you're a student.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Athlete, everything is different for you because you're an athlete.
It's either your students or your athletes. But you're not
going to be both. And so if you want to
treat them like athletes and young professionals, then you need
to allow them to unionize, sit at the table and
bargain with them because they have to be a part
of it. The powers that be can't tell the athletes

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what they're doing without them having an opportunity to negotiate
back what they're getting, whether it's terms, conditions, health care,
or whatever. That has to be something that they're involved
in and people that makes people uncomfortable because they've always
been able to look at student athletes from eighteen to
twenty two and we're just gonna tell them what to
do and they don't have a say and take these

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peanuts on a dollar. That's not happening anymore. You have
to pay the players. So if you're gonna pay them,
you have to treat them like employees. But they're hiding
behind the sham of oh, they're coming to college. They're
doing all these things when it's not. So either make
them students or make them athletes. But you're not gonna
make them both.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay, Look, I have no problican than getting paid. They
do a lot of things for the university. They increase enrollment,
they increase selling swag, they increase exposure, They do a
lot of things for the university. A lot of people
would want to go to a school because the team
is good. I get that, okay, so pay them back
in the day. And I remember talking to Oscar Robertson
about this. When Oscar lived in Cincinnati. We talk a

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lot because he used to hang out at the cigar
shop downtown. I'd be down there, He'd hold court there
every day, and he said that when he was playing,
they gave them fifteen dollars a month, which is like
money where you couldn't even go to the movies. But
they pay them. Then, okay, so pay him now. I
get it. But I want to have somewhat of an
even playing field. If you want to pay him, that's okay.
Have a cap, have a salary cap. On colleges, I
don't see how Miami University can compete with UCLA. There's

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no way. I mean, the lums, the school itself, whatever
it may be, they will not have the fortitude of
the moneies to pay players like schools like UCLA or
Michigan or Arizona or Connecticut, and they'll never be able
to compete. I understand they never wor able to compete.
But if you're going to change the format, if you're
going to change the system, at least try to make

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the system somewhat balanced. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Well, yeah, you can balance it out. So here's what
I would propose. When it comes to it, either you're
all in or you're all out. So you have the
powerful conferences who let's just say they're the big boys.
Where the big boys have their own tournament, their own
set of rules and regulations. Is because they're the big boys,
they're paying the big money or whatever Miami and the
little schools denied, the group of five as we call them,

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they have their own tournament, they have their own set
of rules and regulations, and they don't intermingle. You have
the Big Boy Championship, you have the Little Boy Championship,
and we're okay.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
With that, and everyone knows exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
But once again, because you talk about having a cap,
you can now create a salary cap and list negotiate
with the players. And so if you want to balance
things out, you're going to have to negotiate with the players.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
The problem that we're having.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
The schools and the powers that we don't want to
involve the student athletes and their attorneys and the negotiation,
so there's no conversation until you do that.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You're not going to be able to dictate.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
The terms until you sit down across the table from
them and negotiate.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
We're willing to give you this if you give.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Us that and go back and forth until you can
have balance, which is what you want. Everyone wants what
they see in the National Football League. I want salary caps.
I want this. Yes, because they're unionized and there's negotiations
that take place between the union.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
And the owners.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
You have to do the same thing at the collegiate
level if you want to bounce out. If not, it's
going to continue to be the wild wild West, and
you're going to continue to lose cases.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
In court because of it. That's the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
They need to negotiate at a high level, and they
need to treat it for what it is, a business.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Well, I hear what you're saying, all right, you talking
about having this separation of the big and the small.
I hear that. It sounds great on paper, But if
I'm an athlete in high school being recruited, I didn't
want to go to the so called smaller school. You know,
if I'm a five star player, you know, I want
to be able to compete with the big boys. I
think that's what everybody wants to do. You didn't want
to go to the so called smaller school. You want

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to go where the big boys play. You may not
be as good as some of them, but I want
to go to Miami. Why Because if I'm up Miami,
I can't compete with Michigan. I can't play these schools
in my schedule. That's why I want to go there.
But you make this separation right there. You're separating almost
good and great. He's good, but not good enough to
play there. And I don't think people want that. But

(53:09):
let's get back to what President Trump did. First of all,
I have no idea why he's even involved with making
an executive order for colleges. That's number one, So we'll
stay off that deal. But he says the executive order
says the university should provide for the ability to transfer
one time during the five year eligibility period with immediate
playing eligibility, and one additional such time if the student

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athlete obtains a four year degree. All right, and look,
he said, the rule was previously deemed illegal in court.
All right, these guys are transferring five times one time.
To me, I think that's okay. I don't mind that.
Some coaches agreed with that, and one of them was
John Caler Parry. We mentioned that he went public with that.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
He did.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
But in the court of law it's been ruled illegal.
Right Like in new quart of law they said that
you can't put impose those restrictions on students because you
can't impose those same restrictions on regular students.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
So if it's.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Illegal in the court of law, then you need to
figure out a way to make it legal. And the
only way that people are going to make it legal
is you're gonna have to sit down and get over
this thing where you're trying to avoid anti trust exemptions
and all of these things, and say, Okay, here's what
it is. Let's call a spade a spade and get
to it. But it even extends beyond that, because what
you're seeing increasingly in the changing landscape of college and

(54:24):
admissions in those things is you want certain things for
the athletes, but not those same concessions and things done
for the students, and so people have to make a
decision as an institution.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Either you're in the game or you're not in the game.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
If you want education based sports, cool, all you guys
go over to the right and y'all have education based
sports where you have scholarships to.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Have those restrictions.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
If you want to play with the big boys play
and you want part of the money and the TV
and all of this stuff, well then you're going to
hear the these set of rules.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
That's what it's going to end up being.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
And I know you talked to it previously about a
we all aspire to be with big boys where everyone
as far as the player in the National Football League,
but some people have to play in the UFL, some
people have to play in the CFL, some people have
to go overseas and play.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Look, life ain't fair. Everyone can't do what they all
want to do. That's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
And so your talent will lead you to where the
level that you should participate in, and then you make
decisions based on your talent level.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
I got a question with this.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Edict.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Basically, the president is where's the SCAA president Charlie Baker
is how he's not involved? I don't know, why is
Charlie Baker not involved in President Trump is things on
his mind?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Yeah, they were involved. They had the commission come up.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
They all talked about and sat at the round able
decide what was good, what was best for the players.
But I didn't see any student representation there. They didn't
ask the athletes what they wanted out of it. Once again,
it's the powers that be telling the student athletes, this
is what you're going to do. Nah, it's not a
fair thing. If you're not going to treat the student
athletes equally and give them a voice, is never going

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to work.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
It's not gonna be what it's been for so long.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
There are a lot of people that benefited off of
the work of the student athletes, and now that the
student athletes can.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Benefit off their own work, people are mad.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Well, if you're taking care of some of these things
way back when, you wouldn't have the situation now, So
everyone got greedy and fat off of the.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Labor when now you've got to pay the laborers.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Right, I'll give you this, it's gonna change. It's changing
right now, and there's a lot of people that can't
handle change. Maybe I'm one of them. I don't know.
All I know is this. I'm not that involved, but
I've seen coaches basically leave the profession because they can't
handle the change. I think Nick Saban quipped because of
the deal. I think Jay Wright left basketball coaching Villanova
because he didn't want to get involved with NIL. I
really believe that. So, you know, eventually you're gonna weed

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out the ones that can't fight, can't handle it fighting it,
and you're gonna get the new, younger breed that are
are accustomed to it and they grew up with it,
and they're gonna they're gonna work with it. You know that.
This is it.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
So yeah, So here's what I'm saying about all those
old school coaches, right, all those old school coaches, Nick Saban,
and I love Nick Saban. Nick Saban was making with
ten fifteen million dollars a year coaching the players when
the approaches were overplayed. It was fine for him to
make a ton of money, but it's not fine for
players to make money.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
So here's my thing.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Everyone that's bitching and moaning about it, they all benefited
from the system that was previously established. But now that
the system has changing, Oh my god, I can't deal
with this. Oh my god, I got into it. Well,
so what did you get into coaching for, right, Did
you get into coaching to educate and deal with young
people or did you.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Really get involved with it?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Because I want to selfishly be okay, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Making the money.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
I want them to do as I say, not as
I do, because those same coaches they left. I saw
Nick Saban leave in the middle of the night to
go to the Miami Dolphins. I saw him go back
from the Dolphins to Alabama making money, making more money.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
So, like, it's not fair for us to hold the
student athletes to a higher standard than.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
We hold the higher people, the.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Coaches and administrators and all the other people that are
making money.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It's not fair. It's not a fair system.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I understand that, but I think it's hard for people
and maybe for me as well at times when we
considered these athletes amateurs. For years, they were considered amateurs,
and they were considered quote student athletes and amaturs. Now
they're professionals. They are, and it's okay, you know, but
forget forget the student athlete moniker. They're not student athletes
and more they're professionals, and maybe the schools need to,

(58:30):
as I say, hire these guys, pay them. They don't
want to be sitting the school and don't even go
to class, just you know, play.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, but they don't want to because it costs more
money and it makes them get out of that falsehood,
that narrative that they were singing out there for years.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
As a former.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Student athlete, it was never about a I'm just a
student and the athlete and those things like we were
worker bees and I understood it and I knew what
it was, and I graduated and I went to college.
I did all the things that were required of me,
Like that's cool. But it was never this thing that
was painted out there about student athletes and whatever, because

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there was a time where we couldn't get jobs and
we couldn't work during the year.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
You couldn't have a job, like or your student athlete.
You can't work. You're forbidden from working. Well if you
don't come from.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Certain situations where your family can provide you money to
take care of the miscellaneous stuff like yeah, we got
training table, we got books, we had room and board
in those things, but there are other things that you
have to have money for where you couldn't do that.
If you're not getting it from the football team and
you can't work, what are you?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
What are we doing? So that's all those things that
are wrapped into it.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
And so like, we never should have had that narrative
about student athletes.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
We should have called it what it was back then.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
And if we got away from that narrative and just
really treated it like it was business, then everyone knows
exactly what the terms and conditions are.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I hear what you're saying, and honestly, I don't know
if there's a solution to this. I really don't. Because
back in the day, they were getting paid illegally under
the table. We know that there were bag men that
would go out there and give these players money. Now
they're getting paid legally over the table. So let them
get paid. I understand that, But there are some people

(01:00:15):
that can't handle that can't handle the fact that they're
getting paid. And you know, I just it's different people.
Let's face it. People don't like change, That's what it's
all about. I mean, there are some people who basically
don't like whatever when things change, and things always change,
all right, and they can't handle it. So what do
you do you fight it or you leave. Some of

(01:00:35):
these coaches left right, they did. They can't handle it.
They didn't want to be involved with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
They won't. But guess what, there are other coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
So I mean that's there always gonna be other people
that be like, Okay, you don't want to do it,
I'll do it. I'll take care of it. That's what
it is. Yeah, change is hard. Change, It's hard for everybody.
I don't like certain aspects of it, like I don't
like seeing people bounce around and all that other stuff.
But at the same time, I recognize this is what
it is. There's gonna be education based where you want
the young people to get their their education, You want

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them to graduate, you want them to set themselves up
for life that's better than what they have. Or you're
going to treat it like business and play them like employees,
just like everybody else when they go to a job.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
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(01:01:36):
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So we get into this now, buck because once again
your pros is unbelievable. NFL dot Com. You had a

(01:01:56):
great story this week, and I want to delve into
a little bit NFL dot Com time every week, Bucket
Brooks rights there, and it's tremendous, really is. And you
said Kirk Cousins is the perfect fit as the quarterback
for the Las Vegas Raiders. Okay, first I got to
ask you this, How surprised are you that they even
sign him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I'm not surprised at all. I think this has been
in the works for a long time. Gary, like kerri Qubit.
Clint Kubiak had talked about how important it is to
have an adult, and I'm mature adult in the room
to teach a young quarterback how to go, how to
play the game, how to play the position, how to
understand to be the face of the franchise in those things.
Tom Brady has talked about the lack of quarterback development

(01:02:37):
in this league and how guys need to sit and earn,
learn and earn.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Their weight onto the field.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
To me, this makes sense because Clint Kubiak certainly knows
Kirk Cousins going back to their days in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
If you go back and look at the timeline.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Kirk Cousins' most productive years, his best years in football
had been when Clint Kubiak has been involved, first as
the quarterback coach, then as the offensive coordinator. Kirk Cousins
had two Pro Bowl berths, He had his career high
and touchdown passes and all those things during that time
in Minnesota when include Kubiak was there. So Kirk not

(01:03:11):
only knows the system, he flourished in the system, so
he can be an additional coach in the room. When
it comes to Fernando Mendoza. This gives Fernando time to
fully understand what he's stepping into as a pro to
be ready when he's fully ready to go, as opposed
to being rushed onto the field.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
To me, it's a great move by the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
We'll see how long and how patient they can be.
But if they can go through the full year of
Fernando Mendoza being the backup the Kirk Cousins while the
team is still being competitive, to me, Fernando Mendoza is
going to be a much better player as a result
of this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, I think that I've read this as well that
many personnel people of general managers and even coaches say
they don't like rushing a first year quarterback putting him
in the starting lineup. They wanted to sit on the
sidelines and learn. So I gotta believe right now, Kirk
Cousins was not there not only to groom Mendoza so
Mendoz can see what he does and how to be

(01:04:08):
an NFL quarterback. They brought him in there to be
the starting quarterback next year.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yes, they did, And I think that's really important for
people to understand. I think it's really important for everyone
to have patience and understanding when it comes to that.
The one thing that happens when you draft a quarterback early,
everyone is going to say, oh, well, you know, we
need to make sure that we get them going and

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get them on the clock right the clock of the
rookie contract.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Is easy to build a team, etcetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
But the most important part is to put a player
out there that is ready to perform at a high level.
And whenever Fernando Mendoza is ready, he'll have his opportunity.
You sat there in Cincinnati and saw it where Carson Palmer,
Carson Palmer set out that first season in two thousand
and three, it will be in number one overall John Kitten.
It was the starting quarterback then and they were six.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
That's true. The next year, Carson Palmer takes over. His
second year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
After that he leads the National Football League and touchdown passes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
They go eleven and five and go into the playoffs.
It works.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
It's worked for a lot of great quarterbacks, but most
teams don't have the patients, and most teams don't have
a fan base that's patient enough to wait for them
to earned opportunity to get onto the field.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
So an opening day in Vegas, when Kirk Cousins is
under center, there'll be a lot of booze and there'll
be a lot of media speculation and questioning and a
lot of negativity saying, wait a minute, why is it
Mentoza playing right? That's exactly what's going to happen. They
created a storyline for the media right now, not only
locally in Vegas but nationally. But what they're doing is

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the right thing. Successful teams have always done that. Let
the guy carry the clipboard for a year, learn the
ropes of the NFL, and come in there with a
little more confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, I mean that's what I should be. It should
always be that. Let them earn their well into the field,
let them learn how to do it. And because the president,
and not the president, I would say, the minority owner,
Tom Brady, that's how he brought up and he is
regarded as the goat, there will be more patients and

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discipline when it comes to that approach exhibited by the
Raiders than any other team has done it because the
top guy believes in that approach, and so that's why
they're going to hear to it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Okay, and by the way, speaking about that what they do,
you you had a very interesting story, as I mentioned
at NFL dot com, how various teams build their team,
and you're comparing Seattle and the Patriots, the two Super
Bowl teams, and how they did it, and talk a
little bit about how the Seattle Seahawks built their team
right now because there's some I guess there's some veterans,

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but also you know they messed them with some draft
picks as well as opposed to what the Patriots did,
because you said the Pagriots had a complete makeover.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Yeah, So I used the and the New England Patriots
as examples because this is a COPYCEAD league teams will
always look at the teams that win the Super Bowl
and see what can we learn, what can we steal
from their team building process. The Seattle Seahawks are a
draft and developed team. They are homegrown team where they
had a bunch of guys did they drafted, They let
those young guys grow up, and then they supplemented them

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with some veterans in key spots and the team took
off and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Became a champion.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
The New England Patriots are a team that Mike Rabel
takes over a downtrodden franchise. He's like, hey, I got
to figure out how to change the culture. I need
to get some winners in here, some veterans winning pedigrees
to help my young guys learn how to compete at
a high level. I used two teams as examples of
teams that could have success following those respective strategies. One

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with the Denver Broncos, who stood pat They made one deal.
They got Jalen Waddle, they re signed their own players,
Alex Singleton and a couple of other guys, and they're
going to run it back after going to the AFC
Championship Game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Meanwhile, the New.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
York Jets were struggling in their first shiar under Aaron Glynn.
They jettison some of the guys that went to the
locker room who may not have been deemed to be
cultural fits, and they brought in veterans with winning pedigrees,
veterans who knew Aaron Glenn and how he wants to
operate things, veterans who've been part of winning organizations, to
help them learn how to win at a high level.

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And so we'll see how it plays out for both teams.
But two teams that distinctly followed successful blueprints.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
They were established by the teams that were in Super
Bowl sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
You know, after I read that, the light went off,
Not that I even have a light in my brain,
but the light did go off, and I said, wait
a second. That's why it makes it so difficult when
a general manager and or a coach is fired, because
they're coming in there following someone else's plan. They want
to start their own plan. That's why I think a
lot of ball clubs would stick with a GM or
coach a little longer because they want to see if

(01:08:53):
their plan is working. Am I correct on that? Because
I'm looking at Denver. You mentioned the Denver Broncos. They
started with a new slate. They got bow Nicks a quarterback,
but they did bring in a veteran on offense this year.
They traded for Jalen Wattle, Who's going to really help
on the offensive start of the football. You know, you
got to leave that plan in tact right now. You know,
Sean Payton's he knows what he's doing and he's got

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things rolling along right now. They're going to be a
Super Bowl contender next year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Yeah, they're gonna be a Super Bowl contender, and they'll
they'll continue to be a team that is in the mix.
What is interesting about the Broncos is bringing Jalen Wattle over.
Jalen Watter talked about I don't know if I'm a
Number one or whatever. My job is just to be
a contributor on the team. And when you're bringing that over,
you bringing an explosive playmaker, a big play machine, someone
that can compliment. But they have in Courtland Sutton and

(01:09:40):
Marvin Mahams and some of the other players that are
on the perimeter. But this gives bowl Knicks another weapon.
And we talked about rookie contracts and those things. Bow
Knicks on the rookie contract, it's easier to put high
priced players around him until he has to come up
and sign his deal. But we have seen Sean Payton's
done a great job bringing Broncos back. They're being smart

(01:10:02):
with their money. They're trying to make prudent decisions that
work for the overall health and development of the team.
I like the direction of the Broncos. I like where
they're going. I like how they're building their squad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Okay, let's talk about the New York football giants right now?
What kind of direction are they going in? Because they
got young guys coming in there and a kind of
the young running back situations they have there. Now, all
of a sudden, the rumors are they're going to try
to get O'Dell Beckham Junior, who wants to come back
in football. I think that would upset the Apple card.
I understand he played there somewhat of a fan favorite.

(01:10:32):
You can't do that. I mean, he's been there, done that.
I don't know what he's got left in the tank anyway,
because he was injured, didn't play last year. Why would
you even consider bring Odell Beckham Junior back? Besides maybe
selling tickets, but they're sold out anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
It's a no risk proposition.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
The reason why there's no risk involve is because John
Harbard knows the player. He knows Odell Beckham Junior. He
knows where he is at this state of his career.
He had him in Baltimore and he was a fairly
solid and true for him in Baltimore. Bringing him back
to New York is certainly nostalgic in terms of ay.
He had his best years in New York, and I
would say that Odell Beckham has grown from the experience.

(01:11:11):
I would say he made some missteps at the end
of his New York Giants tenure. I would say that
the Giants probably recognized and wish they had a greater
appreciation for him back then.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
And maybe they can get it together.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
A lot of times these things don't work the way
that we want them to, but I don't mind them
kicking the tires on it. I think it's very important though.
John Harby has to be very clear with Odell Beckham Jr.
In terms of what his role is going to be,
which I would imagine would be to be the number
three receiver, to be the number four receiver, someone that
can come in and their subpackages to help their young

(01:11:43):
guys be leak daghbers and whoever else they have on
the perimeter grow in their respective roles. Because those young
guys look up to Odell, it's important that John Harby
knows Odell make sure you set good examples on and
off the field in terms of showing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
These guys how to be pros.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
If he does that, yeah, it'd be a great move,
But a lot of it depends on how Odell handles
the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
And how productive he is when he gets his opportunities.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
All right, let's talk about that other team out of
New York, the New York Jets. They don't even know
what the playoff is. They haven't seen it neons. Okay,
they have a second year coach, Aaron Glenn who claims
there's gonna be like a total makeover. Okay, I get it,
you know, say one thing, But can you stigle what
you say, because how do you have a total makeover
when you're bringing Geno Smith back the quarterback? I don't
get it. He's been there, done that that. When they

(01:12:30):
bring in Geno Smith again, I don't see any hope
for that franchise. Again.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Well, they brought Geno win because Gino is a two
time Pro Bowler. Gino was the best option available for
them because if not in the draft, is not a
guy that's gonna be a ready made option that could
go on the field and help them win games. Aaron
Glenn has to win games right now. He would rather
try a veteran in Geno Smith, who has been who's
proven that he understands how to win and has played

(01:12:56):
at a higher level at times throughout his career. Now,
the risk is you may not be good enough around him,
particularly with Geno coming off a bad year a lot
of interceptions in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Can he settle in But if you have him playing at.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
His best like he did in Seattle, where he was
a good leader for that team at times, and he
did do a good job of leading to young guys,
and he took a team that wasn't expected to provide
for a playoff birth and got him into the playoffs.
Can he rekindle some of that magic in New York?
That remains to be seen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
But I understand why Aaron Glenn wanted a veteran. They
have to win. He knows he has to win.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
The leash on him is fairly short when it comes
to the patience of New York jests fans. He has
to find a way to win, and they got to
find a way to be competitive. Gino Smith might give
them a chance to be competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Let me ask you a quick question. I've never asked
you this question before, but I think it's rather important. Okay,
you talk about fans when it comes to like August,
when preseason starts, they got the drafts for their fantasy
football deals. All the fans are excited to salivating the picking.
They're looking to the schedule, they're picking wins and losses.
When you're a player and preseason starts, is it the

(01:14:08):
same feeling that the same euphoria that you get like
looking at the schedules saying, hey, we should win this game,
this game, the same war. If you're on the jeedge,
just say, oh my goodness, we're back here again, same faces.
We're not going to go anywhere. Is that the situation?
What is it like when they get the training camp?
Is it upbeat saying we're going to go to the

(01:14:28):
super Bowl? Or same old, same old? How does that work?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
For the most part, I would think it's upbeat and optimistic.
What we have seen and what coaches can do is
I'm Aaron Glenn, I'm any coach. I can point to
the New England Pagers and say, look, they were one
of the worst teams in football the next year and
then the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Why not us?

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
If we commit to doing the things that we believe in,
we stick to these core values and principles that we're
talking about, we get the level of execution that we want.
There's no reason why we can't be right there at
Super Bowl sixty one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Let's get to work. So there's a lot of optimism.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
You're trying to build a new chemistry because no matter what,
the team is always different despite the success. When you
bring new people in, new people get elevated, other people
to part.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
It's a brand new team. So you got to re
establish who you are.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
Coaches got to re establish what they believe in and
then go about it. But yeah, no, there's always optimism
at this time of year because everyone's sitting at the
same place, zero and zero with seventeen games to prove
that they're worthy of being playoff contenders.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
And we certainly see that over the less several years
with the Detroit Lions and Chicago Bears. I mean, that's
a heck of a job those coaches did turning the
so called culture around because they were losing franchises and
they got them to win. Because I'm sure there was
some place saying, oh here we go again. But they
did it, you know, the coaching. The coaching did it.
That's what it did, all right. All right, He's Bucket
Brooks and Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports Sunday on

(01:15:50):
Fox Sports. Ready, it's a two way street. It's yay
or ay and it's coming up next yea na, coming
right up. It's about eleven minutes before the top of
the hour. This is Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.
He's Bucky Brooks and Andy FURMANLI for the Fox Sports
Radio studios. And it's time right now. It's time right
now for you in.

Speaker 5 (01:16:08):
A little rock those brains, gentlemen, These stories need an ass.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
I think we need a ruling on this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
It's yay or nay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Oh, I'm ready and he is sound to play yay ornay.
I say, so, let's can't do it, guys, here's one
for us. So Sugar the Surfing Dog, the first canine,
is inducted into the Surfers Hall of Fame, who spent
her days outside the water comforting veterans as a dedicated
therapy dog. Oh she died last week after battling cancer.

(01:16:41):
A Hall of Famer.

Speaker 7 (01:16:42):
Yeah or nay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:43):
And if you don't say nay, I'm gonna be mad
at whoever says nay on this.

Speaker 7 (01:16:49):
Yeah your nay, Andy? What do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I say? Yeah? She should be.

Speaker 7 (01:16:52):
Old, better better be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Because I mean I was gonna say, well, she never surfed,
but after what she did comforting veterans. You really gotta
be a a pig to say nay on this, really,
but I'm not gonna say that they clicked. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
No, I'm not gonna say no. I'm not gonna say nay.
I'm not a pig. So I'm gonna go with it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
I'm good. I'm good to go on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Get the node had a surface hall of fame?

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Did you me?

Speaker 7 (01:17:15):
Neither?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
No? I did not either.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Guntsurfing, little dump, or have you ever gunt surfing?

Speaker 7 (01:17:22):
I tried and fell.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
I literally I tried for two seconds and then fell
off the board, hit my ankle, and I stopped.

Speaker 7 (01:17:30):
And I'm like, I'm about you a book.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
People go surfing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
No, I've never been a surfer, never been.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
I can't, so I slip in the shower. I'm not
gonna go so.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:17:44):
Next up here, guys, come in.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
A bottle of wine from nineteen forty five sells for
a record breaking eight hundred thousand and eight hundred twelve thousand.
That's I'm sorry, I'm bad with reading numbers for price wise.

Speaker 7 (01:18:00):
Either way, it's eight hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
You read your paycheck money.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
Anyways, it sold for over eight hundred thousand guys, the
most expensive beverage ever sold at an auction. The previous
most expensive bottle of wine sold at an auction was
at at five hundred thousand or over five hundred thousand.
It was in a twenty eighteen. It was a nineteen
forty five Romani CONTI yay or nay on this, Bucky.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
That it'd be a nay. There's no way I would
ever pay for any of that. I am good on
all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
I wouldn't pay eight hundred thousand dollars for just about anything,
let alone a bottle of wine. What do you out
of your mind? I mean, this must be the same
person that's gonna sell this house for the World Cup
tickets in England, right, But it's the same person, you know.
I Sometimes people have money and it's great. I don't
envy whatever, but you know, sometimes you have too much

(01:18:56):
in a know able to do with it. Give it
to charity, you can feed people on the street, give
it away.

Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Yeah, that's fair, that's would I wouldn't buy it either.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
If I had that money, Boy howdy, I'd be paying
for more than just one to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
What, go to a shelter and feed people that you
know do something good?

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Correct? Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
But oh ask we don't have that money right now. Anyways,
let's move on to the next. A lifelong athlete from
Ohio broke a Guinness World Record by holding a dead
hang position for nearly three minutes at the Wow at
the age of ninety. Yeah or nay? Andy, I say nate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Because I don't think I could have done it at
the age of nine. The age of ninety, I don't know.
Maybe a dead hank position.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
It's nay because you know, sometimes people just go to
the Guinness Book of Records, see what could I do
to break at the get in the book? You know,
So it's nay. No, God bless him though he is
ninety years old.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Geez, yeah, that's great. Ninet years old. That's unbelievable. That
would not be on my Bengo car.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
But have all right, Final one guys, Superbowl, Uh guess
cyril Lex opponent Seahawks and Patriots will be the next
two teams on HBO's Hard Knocks.

Speaker 7 (01:20:09):
Yeah your nay on this, Bucky?

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
I mean, everyone wants to see how the sausage is made.
And both of those teams have been Super Bowl participants.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Let's watch them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I say yeah, because I like Mike Rabel. But you
know what, I think that Hard Knocks has run his course.
I really do, you know, been there, done that, and
then I got the inn season Hard Knocks. That's enough.
I mean it was great at the beginning. Right now,
I mean that I don't know, we'll see ab. I'll
watch it to no doubt my mind, but you'll never
guess who's one of the least richest players. That and
more on Fox Sports Sunday coming up, Mack, Well, how

(01:20:42):
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the way we go his demand. I would suggest that
if you're interested in football, he's the mand There's no
one better. And still at all, I'm waiting for the
competition for the draft Master, the so called draftmaster being
Bucket Brooks, and I won't mention his name. I don't

(01:21:24):
want to. He's not worth it. But Bucky, have you
heard anything yet, because I'm gonna push that pretty good
between you and he.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Uh No, I haven't heard anything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
And I'm good on competing with him, like that's not
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
That's not what it is. I am good to go
over here on this side.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Any I'm gonna try my best. I'll see what I can.
I'm gonna stir some stuff up anyway. Tomorrow is the
championship game of the NCAA Men's Tournament University of Connecticut Michigan.
And right now I'm looking at them, and we got
size on both teams, and I think it's gonna be
tough right now for Connecticut to combat the Michigan size.

(01:22:00):
They got a terrorist reed junior, they got some guard
play in solo ball in last Emery Junior. I think
what they have up their sleeve, I guess is Dan
Hurley and his I guess his playbook and how he's
going to come back the size of Michigan, because right
now I haven't looked. I don't bet I haven't looked.
With the odds are maybe someone over there has, maybe

(01:22:20):
Little Dumper has, I would assume Michigan's the favorite to
win that game tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I mean I would assume so, like I would assume
that Michigan is a favorite, like coming in or whatever,
like one their number one seed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Yukon wasn't, so I would think that they would be
a bit of a favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
I think this stuff because Yukon's experience and because they've
been there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
This is the third time in four years. Danny Hurley
has certainly been on a historic run.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Why not make Yukon the favorite just based on the
tradition in those things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
But we'll see, We'll see how it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
All right. I mean, I'll be interested in watching it,
for sure. I don't really have a rooting interest, but
I'm a big and maybe I'll push for the Big East.
But Michigan would be great because I kind of I
don't This is really stupid, I know, but I'm not
a big fan of the Ohio State fans all right,
I think they're just yeah, the word I'm looking for

(01:23:15):
just I don't even want to say it, you know,
but you know, burning couches on the street on High
Street and Columbus when they win it just it's not
my style. So and Michigan really has socked it to
him the last several years, not this past year. So
I wouldn't mind seeing Michigan win that game. But again,
I'll watch it for the enjoyment when no rooting inches,
no betting interes. But I asked the question, what makes

(01:23:36):
at least we're looking at the Connecticut team whist that
kind of used to going to the farns, what makes
them so good? And earlier today we said that connecticutd
spent more than thirty four million on its men's and
women's basketball teams and only twenty something million on their
football team. So basically, they've made a comit for basketball
and the money is okay. But I think the University

(01:23:56):
of Kentucky spent fifty million on their basketball team and
they're gonna do what you and I are going to
do tomorrow watch it on TV. They're not going to
be there. So it's not only money.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
No, I think people want to equate there, right, Hey,
just throw the bag at a bunch of players and
you get the most talent you can put it together.
There are two parts of the business, right there's player acquisition,
then there's player and team development. What you pay to
acquire the players doesn't necessarily matter when it comes to

(01:24:28):
how you develop the team. Yes, you paid the costs
to get the to most talented players, but then the
coaches have to figure out how to develop those players
individually and get them to play within the framework of
the team. Money doesn't have anything to do with getting
them to play within the framework of the team. So
coaches have to be able to total line when it

(01:24:48):
comes to being like great recruiters or great solicitors of
the program with also being great stewards of the program,
making sure that everyone that comes in there understands what
the expectations and standards are they continue to build a team.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
And I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
In spite of the tread's actional nature of college sports,
you still have to have a transformative impact on the players.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
That means that you have to be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
Invested in relationship building, invested in helping them grow as
young people. Helping them become the best versions of themselves.
Even though you're exchanging money and it feels like professional sports,
there still has to be a bit of a high
school element too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
I want the best for you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
I'm gonna show you how to be better on and
off the court, and in doing that, we're going to
get a better product on the court. It's easier said
than done, but that's the only way you can be
able to win consistently at this level.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Now, you know you're talking about the level of I remember,
I think it was last year. It wasn't. Dan Hurley
courted by the Lakers with it two years ago and
he turned them down, which to me shows the fact
that he is a college guy through and through. He
likes working with the young kids, he likes the college game,
and he's adapted to the NIL where guys like in

(01:26:10):
football Nick Saban and basketball Jay Wright just bolted and
left because I think they left and rather well, not Saban,
but right at somewhat of a younger age, because they
just couldn't handle it. They just didn't want to get
involved with the NIL and the alums and the payments.
But you know, Hurley did, and then you got a
guy like Billy Donovan who basically is not really having

(01:26:31):
tremendous success as coach of the Chicago Bulls. He's been
on a short list. I guess for your school North Carolina,
the coach, he's not gonna do it. I mean, he
doesn't want to get involved in that situation. He really won't,
And they'll stay in Chicago because really and truly, the
grind of travel is a pain. But you don't have
to worry about alums or nil and things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
I mean that that is very true.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
You don't have to worry about those things, and that
gives them they do a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Everything has its own issues.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Right in the pros they talk about the young generation
coming up, how you can't coach them hard in those things.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
College requires you to operate differently.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
At the end of the day, if you want to
be successful, you're gonna do what needs to be done
to succeed. So for Benny, Billy Donovan, or any other
coach that is coaching at an elite school, you gotta
be willing to do what's required, and it's going to
be required that you have to get on planes and
private jests and recruit and soliciting those things and still
develop a new team each and every year, because that's

(01:27:32):
the job. And you got to buy someone who is
still willing to do that job in today's climate.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Right And you talked about salaries right now. Dan Hurley
signed an extension in twenty twenty four worth fifty million
dollars over six years, which comes out to like eight
point three million a year, and I'm sure he's going
to get somewhat of a bonus. Now. Then I think
that they get bonuses when they win tournaments and championships,
whatever it may be. So foragetting to the Final four,

(01:28:00):
Dane Hurley has already earned the guaranteed two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. If the Huskies win the national title
tomorrow night, he will learn an additional two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. It's not bad, all right. And again
I say money is great, and Hurley's maximum potential postseason
results bonus is six hundred thousand dollars, so if he

(01:28:20):
wins tomorrow night, totally the whole package will be six
hundred thousand. But you know, money is great and it's wonderful,
but you want to be comfortable, happy and be able
to run your program. And I think that when you're
a college coach, you're basically your own boss, right, aren't
you running your own program? To worry about a general manager?
Sometimes you do, I guess to handle the nil mudget.

(01:28:41):
The budget's there, but it's not like in the NBA.
There's so many layers in the NBA ownership, whatever it
may be. He's his own boss. I would believe that.
And with the success he's had, I don't think he
has to answer anybody. The athletic, the art there is
a figurehead. I don't think the athletic theret that tells
Dan Hurley what to do. And I'm sure Dan Hurley
makes out his own schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Uh yeah, but he still has to.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Look, he still has to answer to somebody, So he
still has to answer to the ad. He still has
to answer for those things. But yeah, when you've won
to the level that he's won, he has more say
in how things are going to go. So the eight
can make suggestions. Dan Hurley is still gonna make the decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Yeah, the more you win, the more power you have.
I mean, curse Signetti and Indiana basically is his own
man too. Now I mean he wasn't when he came in.
But what he's done right now with the contract extension,
you know, he could call his own shots. And I'm
sure that I've been maybe at least one NFL team
maybe called to see why would he go? He's his
old man over there. So I think right now, what

(01:29:43):
colleges have done, I think it's heard the far system,
so to speak, of getting coaches at the next level.
You'd rather stay in college, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Well wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I mean, you have the opportunity to run your own program,
to do what you want to do, to do it how.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
You want it done. Why wouldn't you want to take
advantage of that?

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
And I think more coaches realize that and as more
people adapt to this new way of doing things. At
a collegiate level, there's a lot of power, there's a
lot of say, there's a lot of money in the
collegiate game. You just have to be willing to adapt
and meet the new generation of players where they are
while also navigating all the things behind the scenes when

(01:30:23):
it comes to boosters, administrators and such to run the
kind of program that you want to run.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
I want to get back to the NFL a little
bit because something happened this past week with the Competition
Committee and they approve five rule changes which I don't
know and maybe you could expand on them for me.
I'm sure you know all about that. They approve five
rule changes for the season of twenty twenty six at
their annual meeting this week. And you know, I don't
understand why. And I said coming into the segment, should

(01:30:50):
they tinker or not tinker a before we get into
the rules. Why would they want to change things just
for the sake of changing the more or are they
worthwhile changes?

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
I mean, I think, Look, it's about always making sure
you grow the brand and you clear up the things
that may have been in the great area. Ultimately, we
want the league to be the best version of the
league that we can put. We want a very competitive
product each and every week.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
We want to make.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
Sure that the players are protected, We want to make
sure that the teams are operating on a level playing field,
and we.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Want to have fun. We wanted to be an enjoyable
league for the fans to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
So sometimes it requires you tiking and adapting and adjusting
rules to ensure that those things are possible. But look,
nothing significant, nothing that is going to revolutionize the game,
but little things to make it better.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Okay. The owners apparently passed the proposal to allow league
personnel to consult with on field officials when considering disqualifications
for flagrant football acts and non football acts without being
called onto the field. Okay, So I said to myself,
why would they do this? But if the rules in
place last year, it would have been some punishment immediately

(01:32:01):
in game about the Pittsburgh Steelers receive a dk metcalp
because remember he went to the stands I think after
with the suspension of two games. But then you go
into the stands in the Detroit Lions game or something
like that, whatever, So that would have been something that
is I don't know why to have to changed the
rule on that, just just make a decision right then
and there. So thought that I don't understand whatsoever, Bet,

(01:32:23):
But like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
You want to have you want to have protocols in place, right,
so you want to put a rule down so everyone
if this situation comes up again, here's how we handle it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
As black or white.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
You can communicate it to the players, the teams can
communicate it to the personnel involved including security, so everyone
knows exactly how we going to handle that. You don't
want things to fall in the cracks. And it appeared
that situation was very loosey goosey. They were saying uncertainty
about it. So let's clean it up. Let's make sure

(01:32:55):
we give everyone direction so you know what the rules
and how we're gona handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Okay, he's a rule they passed to permit the kicking
team to declare an on site kick at any time
during the game. Okay, because this is a change because
only losing teams could have tempted on side kicks last year.
All right, so why would you want to kick an
onside kick if you're a winning team. I'm confused. To

(01:33:22):
help me out you with.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
This, Well, it's just once again, it's cleaning it up
because the rules made it where you had to declare
you were only the losing team. So from a tactical standpoint,
it just made it like really easy for people to
know what it is. They're trying to add more balance
to the game, and so this is part of it.
It is rare that a winning team would decide to
take advantage of it. But let's just say there's a

(01:33:45):
penalty after a touchdown, the ball now goes from being
kicked off whatever to now closer to midfield, rather than
kick it to and through the end zone. Maybe we
want to gamble and see if we can get an
extra possession by kicking an onside kick. It just gives
you more options when it comes to strategies than you
have before.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
Okay, I get it now, I understand. Okay, you're clear
enough of me. Eliminate the kicking team's incentive to intentionally
kick the ball out of bounds when kicking off from
the fifty yard line, all right, And it says over here,
I've to find this out here that Dallas tried to
take advantage of this loophole last year against the Chiefs
by intentionally kicking the ball out of bounds to pin

(01:34:25):
the Chiefs at they're on twenty five yard line. So
now they can't do that anymore. I get that one.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Yeah. I mean, like there's some things because if you
leave rules loose and.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Not fully buttoned up, there's always someone that is willing
to exploit those loopholes. And they wanted to make sure
that hey, even though the ball is placed at the fifty,
we want to continue to have like either you kick
it to the end zone and you have to suffer
the penalty and the consequence of the touch back, or
you have to kick it short and cover it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
Whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
The choices you're with their consequences to each of your actions,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
And last, but not least, I think this was the
last rule they passed. Modify the kickoff alignment requirements for
the receiving team in this setup zone. Help me out
with that one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
I probably changed it up, like they're different people that
are aligning. Do you want to put five at the line,
six at the line?

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Do you want to put four and two slightly behind there?

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Just creating more opportunities to be creative when it comes
to the kicking air.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
All right, hear what you're saying there, all right? And
the next thing, I don't know if they announced this
at the meetings, but they did announce a plan to
develop a professional flag football league for men and women.
All Right, Why is there a need for that? I'm
glad they included both men and women. But I guess
they're doing it because of the Olympics in twenty twenty

(01:35:51):
eight in LA They're going to have flag football. What
would be the advantage. I watched it a little bit
on TV and I saw Joe Burrow there and the
last thing I'm thinking is like, he's going to cut
to the left to cut to the right and hurt
his knee again. You know what's the advantage of playing
flag football, especially for the NFL players.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Now more money, more money for the league. All football
is real football, and you want to think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
In terms of this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
One of the reasons why the league and this is
me saying and not them saying it, one of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Why the league is so invested in flag football.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
It creates more opportunities for the league to be able
to eventually sell merchandise as they grow fans.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
By opening up and allowing or.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Encouraging girls to play flag football, you are now building
up a fan base that maybe you didn't tap into before.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Young girls didn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Anyone that they could look up to admire International Football League,
so you were losing them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Well. Now by giving them an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
To play flag they now can feel like they are
part of this football landscape that then allows them to
probably go up to be girls that not only aspired it,
maybe playing college or whatever but when they in turn
have kids, maybe they're more willing to allow their kids
to play because they participated for boys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
It's another opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Hey, if you don't want to play tackle football, here's
an option for you. What does that do increase the
numbers of participation? What does that do on a bigger deal,
When you have more young boys and young girls playing
some virsion of football, you now have a greater fan base.
So this is by design, This is intentional. This is
about growing the game and in essence creating more fans.

(01:37:31):
More fans means more money because you have more people
that are tuning in. This is all part of a
bigger plan to expand the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
I hear you saying more fans, and that's great, okay,
and it's probably gonna be TV money there. But I
like to say, there be more jobs. You know, you
get more young women and young young men available to play,
they'll get paid. They get more jobs and more coaching
jobs in front office jobs. So it's great for everybody involved.
And I was shocked because it says over here right

(01:37:59):
now that flag football twenty million players that were involved worldwide,
one of the fastest sports in the world. I can't
believe it. Now I would say this. You know, I'm
from Brooklyn, New York, and basically football in Brooklyn high
school football was, you know, second to basketball. Basketball was
king all right, simply because there weren't many schools that

(01:38:20):
had fields. You know, a lot of schools doubled up
to play and they shared. Like football in the Midwest
in Texas, Oklahoma. When I lived in Oklahoma, Friday night
was unbelievable, eight nine, ten thousand people. Even in Ohio
it's big. Morla High School has been tremendous. Jerry Foust
Friday night games. They played ten o'clock in the morning
on Saturday on fields that had glass bottles and whatever

(01:38:42):
it may be. Now I go back and look and
see what's happening in my hometown. They got flag football
for girls in high school in New York City. It's unbelievable,
it really is. Plus colleges in New York. I have
Long Island University in Brooklyn. They went to the NCUBLEA.
They got a flat football team. Saint Jose University in
Brooklyn they got a flag football team. So flag football

(01:39:03):
is catching on. It's bigger than pickleball and that was big.
Flag football is huge, culy because I think it's backed
by the NFL. That's why.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Yeah, it is big, and you are seeing more people participated,
boys and girls. I just saw a note that the
Big twelve Conference is about to start flag football.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
For women at the D one level. That means that
some of.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Your bigger schools like Texas Tech and others are going
to have ladies playing football. That is going to increase
the number of ladies that play at lower levels because
dreams now become even more possible.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
Of being athletes. Said the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
Yeah, eventually they'll be like because there's two things. There's
revenue share and there's ANIL. But yeah, like depending on
how these things play out, that would be opportunities for
revenue share and NIL.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
And paydays and those things.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
And now we're talking about a professional league at the
highest level.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
More opportunity to just create.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Dreams and more dollars, more dreams, more dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
Okay, I got to ask this, honestly, you increase sports
on the college level, I'm all for it, no problem.
They're going to get paid. I'm all for that. They
get paid. They do a lot for the university, they
represent the school, they bring possibly students in to enroll
and so swaged whatever it may be. Where does this
money come from? You know, how are they going to

(01:40:26):
get paid? I understand it's to be some NIL money.
Maybe a local car dealership will pay them, but the
school's going to pay them. There's going to be a
budget in the school as well. Where does that money
come from? Increasing the moment admission?

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
All the money now revenue share, All that money comes
from the TV deals that are broker by the conferences
that are then distributed to all of the participating members
within the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
So that's how it comes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
There's two forms and what people are sometimes getting confused.
Revenue share just started last year. Nil started a few
years ago. Name, image and likeness. That's the collective. The
collective comes from the booster clubs. So you're getting the
money from the university, which is through the revenue share.
The boosters are the ones that are behind the NIO

(01:41:12):
deals that you're seeing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
So two different.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
Factions, but there's more than enough for money to be
able to play for some of these things.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
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couple of things right now. In the National Football League.

(01:42:19):
In twenty twenty five, this gentleman had a league high
one hundred twenty nine receptions eighty first downs. He averaged
a league high one hundred and seven point two yards
a game in total one seven hundred and fifteen yards
and ten receiving touchdowns in sixteen games. In his career,
he has three hundred and thirteen receptions for forty one
to ninety one yards and nineteen touchdowns and forty four games.

(01:42:42):
And he's in line for a large contract extension this offseason.
All Right, the name is Pooka Nicoua, and right now
he's in rehab. What in the world has happened to
pokah Nicoua? And his attorney says he's been there for
a while, and the situation is the rehab is offering

(01:43:07):
services for people that battle drug and alcohol addiction, chronic pain,
and mental health conditions. He wants to improve his overall
behavior in every aspect of his life. Did you see
this coming, Bucky Brooks? Have you heard about him throughout
the league that he's a little off center.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
No, But look, man, the one thing that you don't
know is what people are going through. And I won't
pretend to know what Pukin Naku has been going through. Obviously,
his name has been in the news with some maleygases
in those things. But if he was having a situation
where he felt like he needed support and counseling as
a former football league player, I support him and I

(01:43:49):
think the RAMS support him in those things. Now, coming
back as it relates to business and you talk about
him being eligible for an extension. In those things, they
only evaluate him. They evaluate him in their long term plans.
They evaluate how he's fitting in and engaging with the team,
and they'll evaluate his performance.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
But I don't think that's off the table.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
It just means that they're going to closely look at
him and how he's progressing on and off the field,
and then make the determination down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
I've always said TTT talent Trump's trouble. If your talented,
you could be used if you had some closet skeletons,
No big whoop, he's going to be playing. He'll be
on the Rams next year. Talent Trump's trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
Yeah, to a point, but it just it just depends.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
Like I mean, obviously talent gets more tolerance, but there
is a fine line, and you can't have your star
player engaged in a bunch of off field incidents, they
might be deemed to be embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
So we'll watch, observe, see how he goes forward.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
See if the production remains at a high level, and
then we'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Is this a decision made solely by the LA RAMS
or does the commissioner get involved with is his decision
being extended?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
No, commissioner doesn't get involved in that. This is all
about the RAMS. This would be ownership down. Can you
trust him? What's the risk, what's the reward? How are
we going to do it? How we want to structure?
How much money do you want to pony up to him?
What are the things we can put in the contract
to protect us if something goes around?

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
All that stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
All right? Good, let's talk about something good right now.
Let's talk about Only two players in NFL history have
made more money than this guy who has just one
playoff win in his fourteen year career. Who are we
talking about? Kurt Cousins. Are unbelievable, And no doubt, do
you think that Kirk Cousins is a Hall of famer? No,

(01:45:47):
but I think it's a hall of fame earner. That's unbelievable.
He just signed a one year, twenty million dollar deal
with the Las Vegas Raiders. The third highest earning player
in NFL history, and only Matthew Stafford and Aaron Rodgers
have a cut more career earnings than Kirk Cousins, who
recently get this past Super Bowl champ, seven time champ

(01:46:07):
Tom Brady on the old time earnings list. That's unbelievable.
He must have one hell of an agent, really he does.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
And I can say this that his agent is a
friend of mine. And look, part of the reason why
it worked for Kirk Cousins is because the way they
manipulated the system franchise tag multiple franchise tags, then leads
to a big parlay that leads to guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
They didn't have to redo the deal.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
The Minnesota more guaranteed money, more years goes to Atlanta,
big deal, guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
It's all worked out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
I would say this Kirk Cousins, but four time Pro bowler,
he's done some things. His team hasn't won at the
level that you would expect someone that has made that
kind of money to do it. But you can't regarage
him as a player. You have to pay what you
get paid what people are value at and are willing
to pay, and he has been a guy that has
hit the free agent market at the right time. He's

(01:47:00):
a guy that has made the system work for him.
So hats off to him for being able to get paid.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
I don't know Kirk Cousins though. Do you know Kirk Cousins,
I mean, you chum me with him? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
No, I don't know him well enough. I like I've
had things with him.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
I just don't know because I've seen him on teav
I think it was on Hard Knocks and I had
like or maybe the Quarterbacks. Wasn't there a show of
the quarterbacks on another network? I forgot what it was?
Maybe Netflix? Yeah, yeah, he was one of the three.
He seemed to be like a great guy, family guy,
you know, down to earth, You're not extravagant, just a
good guy. So I think he's a good guy to

(01:47:34):
have around. I think I think he's gonna do good
things for the for the Raiders, I really do. I
think he's gonna help them. He's gonna help develop Mendoza
as a quarterback. You know, he he's a team player.
He wouldn't shun Mendoza coming in there. He'll he'll show
him the ropes. He'll know that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Yeah, what's he there?

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
Hopefully that was part of the conversation, Like certainly Klint
Kubiak wants him to do it. Klein Kubiak also probably
told him, hey, you're gonna play. We want you to play.
He wants you to play well, and ultimately you or
performers determines when Mendoza gets on the field, you play well,
you hold on to it. If you don't, eventually we
can go to the young kids. Look, it's a win
win situation for the Raiders when it comes to Kirk
Cousins and what he's able to do for them in

(01:48:12):
this role.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Good. Now, I want to talk about the NBA. We
talked about the good bean and the this is ugly.
This is not only all, it's kind of stupid. Really,
the NBA is now I think number three is the
league on the NFL and maybe Major League Baseball. I
don't know. This is some talk about maybe Major League
Baseball has bypassed the NBA as the number two old
times sport for fandom. All right, we'll see. But the

(01:48:34):
three point bombs are thrown like ninety plus combined three
point shots. Teams are every on a nightly basis, the
tanking situation, the arrest, that's not helping that league at all.
But now this this is like the bottom of the barrel. Really,
Anthony was the ant man is illegal for NBA Postseason
Awards because he won't reach the sixty five game minimum.

(01:48:57):
There's gotta be a better way than this. Really, if
you play seventy five percent of these games, that's sixty two,
not sixty five. So I think seventy five percent would
have been a good deal. But what if you were
in baseball, What if you hit seventy five home runs
and you only play fifty games, would it not count?

Speaker 5 (01:49:13):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
I don't understand that you got to change this rule.
I never heard of this rule before about the Postason Awards.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
Yeah, but this rule came because people were tied in
load management.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
So in.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
An effort to eliminate some of the load management things,
they put minimums and requirements on how much you played
to get those things. And that matters because it also
impacts your ability to get the max contract to supermax.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
And those things.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
They were trying to encourage players to play more. Ultimately,
you're gonna have some people that fall shorter line. There
can be some upset stuff, but you got to say
a hard line. If you want players to play, you
got to put some parameters in there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
And this was part of that decision, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
And there's gonna be people winning these awards that don't
deserve to in the awards, but they're gonna get them
because they got decent stats, but they played more games.
That's the joke of the whole matter. It really is, right, Luka,
Doncics is not gonna win the MVP Award because he's
gonna be out right now, Cunningham called Cunningham. He's Cunningham.

(01:50:16):
He's not gonna win it from the Pistons. He's not
gonna Edwards. He's not gonna win the award. I mean
they might not even they should even have it. I really,
you know who's gonna get it now? Guy like Devin Booker,
Devin Brooker may get it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
I mean, I mean, well, you can't have both ways.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
We can't come in here and complain about the stars
not playing and then when you do things to make
the stars play get mad about it. So do we
want the stars to play? Or are we okay with
them sitting down? Because before the guys were load management.
We weren't seeing them play a ton and so we
didn't have anything to impact it. They were trying to
impose things that would impact the money, that would drive
people to play. Unfortunately, injuries and those things are part

(01:50:56):
of it. But if you don't play the sixty five games,
you can't be able for the award. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Okay, what about the National Football League? Is there a
minimum there take any awards?

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
No, but we don't have a low difference. Yeah, but
we don't have load management issues. You don't ever hear
anyone talking about, oh my god, this team is sitting
out their entire squad for multiple games do to load management.
The NBA has a load management problem. The NFL doesn't
have one.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
So you could rush for two thousand yards and nine
games and get the rushing title, Yes you can, And
if you reach two thousand and after nine games, the
coach could sit you down and rest you for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
If they could, but no one has done that. It
hasn't been an issue.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
So there's no need to legislate against something that hasn't
been an issue yet. There hasn't been a load management issue.
The only time load management comes into play is maybe
the last week of the season when you're trying to
determine do I want to have my guys up or
down for the postseason? If I want to make sure
that they're rested and ready to go. We've already cleansed,
we know what our situation is. Cool, gonna sit them down.

(01:52:01):
If not, we're gonna play them. The league is also
The National Football League is also different. You have seventeen games.
I don't have time to mess around with load management
when only have seventeen. I may be able to take
one game off, I can't take two to three games off,
never leaking into a quarter of the season. There's a
difference when you play so many games in the NBA
compared to having a short, sweet schedule like you have

(01:52:23):
in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Well, I do know the National Football they changed it
several years ago because there used to be the last
game of the season, a lot of players would rest
the coaches whoarrest them. Now they made that last game
a conference game, which could be a meaningful game, so
more often than not than not resting players because that
could be a game for home field advantage or playoff opportunity,
whatever it may be. So they're not resting players. But

(01:52:46):
I got to ask you this, we got we got
to go behind the curtain a little bit. When did
this load management start? Why did it start? And why
is it only in the NBA? I mean, who started this?
As a kid rooting for the NBA, I never heard
the term load man. I mean I expected to see
Willis Reid when I was a kid, watching him play

(01:53:06):
every night. Every night. Willis Reed played with Clyde Fraser,
Bill Bradley, Dave de Busher. They've played every night in
New York. When I watched the NIXT play.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Yeah, I mean like in yesteryear, Yeah, everybody played. But
then as you got more recently, you have people that
are looking at the science and they're trying to protect
their players. They're trying to see what's most important. Is
the most important that we are the best regular season team,
or that we want to have an opportunity to hoist
the Larry O'Brian Trophy and the win those sixteen games, Well,

(01:53:36):
the trophy ultimately is the biggest determining factor in whether
we are viewed as successful or not. I want to
make sure I have my best players available for that.
That's the determination because people are not satisfied with regular
season and division titles in the pros. They want to
see you win the championship. And the only way some
people view some people believe in preparing for the championship

(01:53:59):
is to make sure that all my guys are ready
and available. And that means sometimes if it's close, I'm
gonna sit you down. I'm gonna make sure you're fresh
and ready.

Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Okay, So what I'm hearing now, it's a coaching decision,
not a player decision.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
Well, I mean, I don't think players are determining whether
to sit out. I think it's an organizational decision that
the organization is determined determining when these guys sit out.
In those things no different than in baseball when you
have starters going maybe three innings, it's part of a
collective or committee situation for a game, or hey, you're
just gonna go five innings regardless of what you feel.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Five innings. That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
More organizations are looking at research and analytics and those things,
and some of them that may be analytically based may
skew tours.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
Load noad management in those things.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Others that are a little more a I'm gonna go
buy gutting instincts and field I am a play them,
I'm not gonna play them. It all depends, but it's rarely,
in my estimations, rarely just a player operating on his own.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Okay, I got a quick decision. Okay, I'll run this,
spy tell me if I'm right a wrong on this.
I know how to eliminate the load management. Have less
teams in the playoffs, less playoff teams. You're getting teams
in the playoffs run somewhat less than five hundred records.
If you have less teams in the playoffs, they'll have
to play the guys more because there's less teams to
get in there. Every game means more, right, They got

(01:55:17):
so many teams in the playoffs now it is somewhat meaningless.
The regular season doesn't mean anything. You just want to
get into the playoffs. Get less teams in the playoffs
won't happen because playoffs need more money with TV exposure,
TV money. But if that's the way to solve it,
don't you think have less teams get into the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
I mean you can do that, but then it's less
money and those things. You may feel better because Okay,
everyone's participating, but you don't have many eyeballs on your sport. Ultimately,
you have to make a decision, and so like I
am willing to make hard decisions and worry about the
minority voices that are talking about like, oh my god,
this isn't fair that such and such.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
Is not going to be an MVP. He's that can
be eligible to things. So be it. Those are the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
Play sixty five games and you're elder, you don't, You're not.
That's it in the story.

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(01:56:25):
That's why the blame game is freaking next. All right,
the blame game coming right up about ten minutes before
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(01:56:46):
right here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucket Brooks Amandy
Furman Aware live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and
so is the little dumper. Right now, it's time for
the blame game.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
You ruin me.

Speaker 5 (01:56:56):
It's all your fault. No, it's your fault, all your fault.
Maybe it's everyone's fault. A liar, that's why there's the
blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
All right, It's time to play the blame game, everybody.
And you know what, Andy, I'm ready to blame people.
And I'm I think will blame you. I think you're
You're first on my list. I don't know, but I'm
gonna find something anyways, you will. Anyways, it's time to
play the blame game. So the first one up, guys,
the sixty five game minimum for NBA Awards.

Speaker 7 (01:57:35):
Who do you blame for this one? Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
You know what, though, I just got the idea from
our guys, super Mark Ramsey. Okay, you told me. Greg
Popovich when he was coaching the San Antonio Spurs, he
used the one who left the team in San Antonio
when they went to mi Abbi to play the heat
and the team was in San Antonio. He is the
one who started with the tanking and everything else, load management.
He did it. So I blamed Greg Popovich.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
That's it, all the copycast that took what the Spurs
did and thought that they could replicate it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
Mike, I mean, this was.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
A situation where if Popovich did that, and he did
that for the sake of the team, who he's only
responsible for his team, kudos for him, but silly.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
For all those idiots the thing that they could replicate
it because they weren't winning at the level that Papovich
was winning.

Speaker 7 (01:58:21):
All right, all right, those are our blames there.

Speaker 4 (01:58:23):
The next one up, eliminate the SEC title football game.

Speaker 7 (01:58:27):
Who do you blame for that one, Bucky?

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
The obsession with being successful in the college football playoff,
that's what's crushing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:36):
The title game.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
So get rid of the title games, get rid of
all the other bowl games. Treat this just like high school.
When the season ends right around Thanksgiving, we should be
able to start the playoffs within two weeks after that,
and we don't need all these weeks in between. I mean,
play every Saturday after that and get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Shouldn't take long.

Speaker 2 (01:58:55):
Greg Birdie, athletic director of University of Alabama, kind of
pitched that idea. I think the day, I think it's
probably gonna happen. And boohoo, do you I hate that
Beau's more football. The better let him play. It's better enough.
The both games are going down. The Crapper play play play.

Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
Play Thank you kawhi Well you say play, Andy Well,
I got one for you. The creation of a professional
flag football league.

Speaker 7 (01:59:19):
Who do you blame for that?

Speaker 2 (01:59:21):
Andy Well? You gotta blame the National Football League, because
why they want the Green Salvation, they want the God,
they want the green Cabbage, they want the Mullah, they
want the cash, they want the Guild. It's all about money.
That's what it's all about, of creating a league right
now for both men and women. And Bucky told me
just recently that what the Big Ten they gonna have
a football flag football and the Big Ten. So it's

(01:59:42):
all over the place. But yeah, I'm not that down
on it. Busin it does create jobs and more scholarships.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Yeah, the big trips don't have it. I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:51):
I think he grows the fan base, It provides opportunities
for young ladies and young boys to participate.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
It gives them an opportunity to dream about doing things
at the higher life.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
And overall, more football is good for it is just
different what we're saying. But nah, this is great.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
I love flag football, all right, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
I like it too. Well, I got something for you too.
Let's go baseball. The sore arms and pitching injuries in baseball, guys,
who do you blame for this one?

Speaker 3 (02:00:16):
Bucky Well, I blame like people aren't having their starting
pitchers throw as long, so they've lost some of the
training and some of the density and resilience that they
had when they used to pitch a lot way back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
That's been the biggest issue.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
You know what I blame. I don't think pitchers pitch anymore.
They throw, and they want to throw those FM numbers.
We're buy FM numbers like one on one point four
that they want to play one on three point two.
That's what they're doing. So they're not pitching, they're throwing.
But right now I want to say goodbye, have a
happy east, to see you next week and count down
as next right here, on Fox

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