Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks React To Maxx Crosby Being A Raven, A Full Report From The Combine, Free Agency Prep, And More!!

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Speaker 2 (00:57):
What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Everything is won? I want to run this by it
because this is amazing. I mean, you know, sometimes truth
is stranger in fiction. They had the Conference USA Basketball
tournament yesterday Texas El Paso, the Miners of Texas El
Paso and Jacksonville State, and now reviewing an altercation that
happened in that game. I don't know if you heard
about this. There was a UTEP fan picked up a

(01:21):
chair in an exchange. Would get this a Jacksonville State player?
What goes through the minds? It's alcohol? Maybe it's alcohol.
I don't know. I don't know what it is. A
guy in the stands, a fan of the miners picking
up a chair going after a Jacksonville State player. I
don't get it. I read this stuff. I scratched my head.
I don't believe it. I don't believe it. Really, you

(01:42):
played the game. Did you have any altercations with fans
when you were on the field at North Carolina? I
doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, But it was a different time than we didn't
have access to athletes, and right now, the access that
fans have the athletes come in enables them to field bolden,
to do those kinds of things. It's I mean, look,
I can't even imagine what that is like to have
a fan come after you with a chair. That's kind

(02:10):
of crazy. But this kind of life and times we're in,
you know, with gambling and fantasy ball and all the
other things that kind of have fans feel and obligated
to demand certain performances from their players, it's kind of
crazy to see.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, and maybe you don't remember, but I don't know if,
in fact, when you were playing in North Carolina, do
they serve alcohol at the stadium, because I think this
is something that most of the colleges. I believe, at
least when I went to school, alcohol was prohibited. They
didn't sell it. Now I think it's sold in every
arena in every football stadium. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I can't remember alcohol being sold in but now
I do know. It's kind of a deal right where
alcohol products or so you see the consumption, and the
consumption kind of changes the behaviors and the reactions. So yeah,
it's kind of interesting to watch all of just take place.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, you know, it really doesn't make a difference if
they're selling alcohol inside or not, because the tail getting outside,
so by the time they get in there somewhat loaded anyway,
So it doesn't make a big difference, so you know,
the heck with it. But look, you got to control yourself.
I mean, it's a game. I get it. People are emotional,
they're fans. But to take a chair after a kid
that you know, there's something wrong there between the ears,
there's something wrong with that guy. And last, but not least,

(03:29):
let me just continue this on college basketball. One lass statement.
I get it. In this day and age, everybody's looking
for clicks, everybody's looking for an angle. Everybody wants to
say something that maybe will get some attention. Let's put
this to bed right now. Okay, the Miami RedHawks, they're
not Miami of Ohio, the Miami University. Okay, no Division
one men's basketball team has ever ever missed the NCAA

(03:52):
Tournament in the modn ERA after finishing its regular season undefeated,
and Miami will not do that either. They're thirty one
to zero. I don't care if they lose the first
game in the matt Conference Tournament. They're playing Massachusetts U
mess on Thursday at thirty one, and oh if they
lose that game, they're still going. They gotta go. They're undefeated.
End the story. I mean, people are just making such
a big deal about this. It's not even that it's

(04:13):
nothing to discuss. They're there, aren't you agreeing with me?
You got to agree with be on this thirty one
and zero. That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
They're going, Oh yeah, I mean that's that's kind of
a done deal. You win as many games as day one,
you absolutely have to kind of put them in there.
So I would firmly expect them to be in the
tournament regardless of whether they win their conference, to run
or not.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
There we go, And you know what, I think it's
great because I think every tournament needs somewhat of a Cinderella.
I think they're gonna be like the Cinderella team. They're
gonna be America's team this year. I hope. I hope
they go deep. I really do. I like Travis Steeles,
a head of a guy. He's a good coach, and
he got a raw deal when he coached four years
ago at Javier University in Cincinnati. They bounced them out.
He turned it around big time this year. But I
think this the interesting story in Miami is going to

(04:56):
be are these players going to come back? I mean,
are they gonna be gobble up by some big schools
and get some big unil money. That's the key right there.
Although it seems to me from a distance watching them play,
they love one another, they love playing with each other,
and I think they're going to stay. And you know,
it's a beautiful thing watching them play. They where they
passed the ball the way basketball should be played, looking
for the open man, playing without the ball. I love it.

(05:18):
I love watching them play.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, I think if you're a Miami fan, you can't
worry about next year next year and take care of yourself.
But you can't count on them being back because as
much as we would love them to stick around and
exhibit loyalty in those things, the bag is the bag,
and the money's going to be significant for some of
their star players. I wouldn't expect that same version to return,

(05:43):
but some of the key players may return, but look,
it's gonna be kind of pricey to keep them.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
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us today? The little dumper, Patrick Swicker. He's as our
executive yes, the producer of the day. You know every
week we get a new Britain day day. He's back.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
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Speaker 1 (06:02):
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Speaker 3 (06:09):
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Speaker 1 (06:15):
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Speaker 3 (06:18):
Baby, let's go.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Good, well, glad to have you back. Thank goodness you are.
I don't know, but I'm not even gonna ask the
question if you volunteered to come back, that you were
forced to come back. At least you're back with us.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm bad going to have.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You, but good you're back, all right. And you know
who's back right now, Max Crosby. He's back playing in Baltimore.
I was shocked when I heard this, and then after
some mental gymnastics, if you will, I figured it out.
Max Crosby coming to Baltimore. I'm not really happy about
that because I'm kind of a embreded Cincinnati Bengals fancy

(06:50):
and now I got to face Crosby twice and I
asked you about this trade. You know, I think it's
one of those deals where the Ravens say, we want
to win now. That's why we had some problems on
the defensive side of the football. We want to win now.
We want to be a win now contender. When you
heard about this trade, getting up two first round picks
for Max Crosby going to the Raiders, what do you

(07:11):
think about that. I thought it was a pretty heavy
kind of steep number to get Max Crosby.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, it's a steve number. The thing that comes to
mind to me from the Raiders standpoint, we've seen this
scenario happen before for them, where they trade a marquee
player in hopes of stockpiling the roster. Everyone on the
outside said like, yeah, man, they gonna parlay those picks
and the players and that's going to help them get back.

(07:38):
Do you remember Andy, a few years ago when they
traded Khalil Mack and what they received from Chicago Bears
for that trade. Do you remember you remember you remember
that at all? How much they received from the Chicago
Bears and what those picks turned into. Let me see
if I can just pull pull pull this up, and
we can look at what they were able to get

(07:58):
out of that. So they traded them and they were
able to get No, that's not the trade. They're able
to get a couple first round picks from the Bears.
It never amounted to anything nothing for the Raiders, so
they traded an all pro player. He goes to Chicago,
he does what he continues to do, plays at an

(08:19):
all pro level, and the Raiders don't get anything like
they don't. They aren't able to parlay those picks and
the players. And the toughest thing to do is to
be a front office that picks players that can play
up to Max Crosby's level. I understand why when people
are advocating because on paper it looks like a smart deal.

(08:40):
But it's hard to take a proven player and say, hey,
we're gonna get a player that can play at this
level in the draft. It's just really hard to do well.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I look at Max Closy right now. I think one
of the problems is a big risk over there. In
twenty four and twenty five, he had those injuries and
that a knee and ankle injury, had ankle surgery. I
think one of the reasons why he really want that
out of Vegas, not so much because the team was
not a competitor. I think that he didn't like the
way he was treated with his injuries in Vegas. I

(09:11):
just maybe I'm wrong about that, but I know he
was somewhat vocal that they didn't take care of him
big time with that injury.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I mean there's some of that. Like, I mean, I
know that the losing and stuff was frustrating for Max Crosby,
But I don't know, Man, He's still played well for them.
He still continued to play with effort and energy and
gave them the production that you wanted from UH an
all Pro caliber, Pro Bowl caliber player for the Raiders. Look, man,

(09:40):
this is John Spotek Kobiak. This is their opportunity to
put their stamp on it. But it's gonna be interesting
to kind of see what that is. Oh, let me
give you the players that came back from the Raiders
for that that that that trade. So Josh Jacobs, good player,
Damon Arnett was the other first round pick that they

(10:01):
got wide receiver Brian Edwards, and then they traded it
to the Jets. So Josh Jacobs, Damon and Brian Edwards
were the result of the Khalil Max trade. Not quite
the hall that you would want to give up a
player that was of Khalil Max Gilk. So we wonder
if they can maybe get it right this time and

(10:23):
find some players that can match up with what Max
Crosby's been able to do well.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I will tell you this much. It's funny because as
far as the Ravens are concerned, this is the first
time that they've ever traded for a draft pick, I mean,
in the history of their ball club. So I just
is it the new coaching staff. I mean, why would
they do something like this. I mean, I get it,

(10:48):
two first round picks and you got their quarterback Lamar,
who basically is kind of on the other end of
his career right now as far as age wise. I'm
not saying that he's lost a step or two, but
you know, really maybe his better years have been behind him.
I don't know. So in other words, they're throwing everything
into the barrel. It's all on none right now as
far as the Ravens are concerned, I guess I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would say this for the Ravens, they've struggled trying
to identify and acquired the right pass rusher for their defense.
The man they've not had a high end pass rusher
in a minute. I mean, they've had interior player Justin
Medawike play at that level, but they haven't had a
dominant guy that you had to fear since Darrell Terrell

(11:33):
Suggs retired. And they know how important it is, just
he mentioned, knows how important it is for the defense.
Hats off to them for giving up a first round
pick to make it happen. They looked at the draft,
it's that's what possibly could come there to them at fourteen,
and they decided, hey, we'll take our chances on getting
you Max Crosby, and we'll let them have those picks

(11:55):
and see if they can make it work.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, you know what, if history shows us anything, I
don't think they're readies are going to do much of
those pins. I mean little bit they did last year
hiring Pete Carroll. That was a bust. It just didn't
work out.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Then they trade Gino Smith, all right, and I don't
think that worked out either. I mean, I think they're
in bad shape now. And also the rumors are coming
and they're circulating right now that maybe they're not going
to draft for Fernando Mendoza. It's the number one pick.
I gotta believe that they probably will, and maybe they
put that smoke screen out there so other clubs will
not draft them or will draft them, whatever it may be.

(12:27):
But I think they need a quarterback, and you know
as well as I do, if you don't have a quarterback,
you're not gonna win this league. And basically Gino would
have been a step up a year ago. But oh man,
I mean I feel bad that Pete Carroll went out
on that note one year and gone and he's finished.
But it just didn't work out. So their track record
of drafting and getting players in there not good, really

(12:49):
is not good at all.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean, like I there, but this is just
an interesting time. Like I'm just fascinated as a reflectback
on all of this. It's just real interesting, like how
the Raiders have been mired in the muck. You're talking
about the Pete Carroll situation and those things. But to me,

(13:14):
this is the full reset that they've needed. Now we'll
see if it works out, but this is the full reset.
They're not trying to recycle old coaches, they're not trying
to take their own players. They're trying to start from
the bottom and build it up. I expect for Nanda
Mendoza to be the pick to kind of get them going,
and they're gonna build around the young quarterback. We'll see

(13:35):
what it looks like with free agency and all that,
but man, this is starting from ground zero if you're
the Silver and Black.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay, we talked about quarterbacks, and obviously in this league
you can't win without a quarterback. We talked about maybe
banana men. Those are maybe the only quarterback worth mentioning
in this drift right now. And the cup of free
agents out there as well. You got Daniel Jones, Okay.
This guy's coming up a tourn Achilles okay, and I
don't think he's going to be in quite big time demand,

(14:02):
and he's in a transition tag by the Indianapolis Coat.
And then you've got Malik Willis and this guy has
only started six games in his entire career. So where
do you go for a quarterback, at least on the
free agent route? What do you do? I guess you
got maybe some young guys with Mac Jones, Tanne McKee.
I don't think there's anybody worth anything out there. Kyler
Murray perhaps I don't know, Tua. What do you do

(14:24):
if you were in need of a quarterback and maybe
have to go free agent.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
If you're in need of a quarterback, the number one
guy to talk about it is going to be Calum Murray.
Calimurray's for number one overall pick. He was an offensive
rook of the Year. He's been a two time Pro
Bowl so at least you have proven approven history of
success from him. Now, the last three years have not
been great because of injuries and the like, but we've
seen him play at a high level at times in

(14:50):
the league, so he would certainly be number one. Daniel
Jones with a transition tag that makes it hard because
they can match whatever you offer, So let's throw him off.
Malik Willis is a wildcard, and he's a wildcard because
he's only had six starts. He was not He wasn't
a great player. When we saw him at the Tennessee

(15:11):
Titans those first two years, he was bad. He goes
to the Green Bay Packers, we see him show up
and flashes. He looks like a completely different player. But
you have a small sample size and unless you're able
to replicate what they did in Green Bay, how do
you know that he's gonna be that same player for you.
To me, he's a tricky evaluation just because, man, it

(15:35):
was so up and down for him the first four
season of his NFL career.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I will tell you this much. I mean, I'm with
you with Kyler Murray. I think this game out. The
guy came out of the college ranks with a lot
of Craig right there. He played in just five games
last year, had that foot injury. He won two of
those games. But the problem with Kyler Murray and I
think no one has really criticized his play. They criticize
his activities. I mean, he was always in a room

(16:02):
by himself playing video games.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I don't understand how that information gets out, And if
it does get out, which it did with him, I
think it probably came out from the ball club itself.
I don't think reporters are that aggressive to find out
that he's playing video games and went to his own
little office. I don't think so. I think the club
was not happy with him, so they slaked it out
to the papers. I'm sure that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
That is exactly what happened. And those are the things
that I won't say you worry about, But that's it,
So he has to do with that.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I would say some of that is his fault. He
gave people a reason to talk about his behavior, but
those things should have remained in private for the team
because it looks makes the player look bad, it makes
the team look bad for the lack of accountability. But
now that it's there, I will say this first thing
you do when you take on at Calamary is you
let him know that the program that he's stepping into

(16:57):
is highly organized, highly disciplined, and very detail and that
there's an expectation that he is going to have to
meet those standards and if he does that, he's going
to be a much better player for that. What we
don't know is during his time with the Cardinals, has
anyone ever shouted straight to him like that, they say, hey, man,

(17:17):
here's what we demand, here's what we expect. Because maybe
that's all the player needed, for someone to confront him
and challenge him in a way that maybe is positive
and gets the best response from him when it comes
to who he is and what he can be.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
So what I'm hearing from you and I sort of
agree is the fact that yeah, he's got talent, but
that talent has to be channeled, and if you have
a good leader, a good coach out there that could
challenge him and maybe make him a better player or
the player that everybody thinks he can be. And you know,
the destinations where he may be going could be a

(17:53):
problem as well, because now there's some movers out of
New York City that they Jets want him, and they
just just saying, well, I don't know, already had a
veteran quarterback and Justin Fields, but I think Kyler Murray
is a better quarterback than Justin Fields. But you know,
really and truly, where does he go? You know, what
are the options now for Kyler Murray? The Jets need
a quarterback, to's knowe doubt about that. I think you
have to say that the Cardinals need a quarterback. He's gone,

(18:16):
The Colts need a quarterback, that Dolphins will probably need one, Raiders,
the Steelers, what's gonna happen with Aaron Rodgers? He may
not come back. The Vikings. These are all ball clubs
and need quarterbacks right now.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, I mean a ton of teams that need quarterbacks.
And he'll be one of the top ones, one of
the first ones to get a chance. It to be
interesting to see how they play that off. But for
Caler Murray, to me, the destination is Minnesota. I want
to go to Minnesota because I have the players. I
have the quarterback. I mean, I have the quarterback Whisper

(18:51):
and Kevin O'Connell to be able to get it done.
This is a really good team, a team that is
built for the playoffs and beyond. You just need a quarterback.
Is the best situation for Caler Murray there. I would
expect the Minnesota Vikings to make a hard push for him,
but more importantly, I would expect Caller Murray to make

(19:11):
a push to join them.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, why did one of the Minnesota Vikings? Why were
they so high on JJ McCarthy and think that he
could come in and get it done last year? That
I don't understand. I mean, I certainly they still won
around nine games last year with him, but he had
what like eleven touchdowns and twelve nties and he finished
last I think he finished last completion percentage and passer

(19:33):
rating among quarterbacks with at least ten starts last year.
Why did they think that JJ McCarthy was going to
be the guy?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I mean, look, He's the first round pick, so they
had to have a lot of belief in him. You
drafted them with the first round pick because you thought
he could be a franchise player and it hasn't worked
out today, but you had still had to have that
confidence that, ay, if we we surrounded with the right
people where they certainly have the right personnel in place,
put him in the right scheme. Kevin is a magician

(20:01):
when it comes to play design that you believe that
you can make it work. And it just hasn't worked
to this point. But it still doesn't mean that JJ
McCarthy can't work out. It just means that right now
the team is looking for a veteran to add competition
and to help them win while he's developing either on
or off the field.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And last, but not least, before we roll along here,
why did Kyler Murray fail? Because he came in there
with such high hopes.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (20:27):
His personality? His attitude? I mean, you know, really and
truly I thought he'd really do gangbusters in the National
Football League, and certainly they made him out to be
such a mope. That's what they did. They killed him.
The media killed Kyler Murray.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean, look, I would say the media certainly didn't
do him any favors, but he gave them a gas.
He kind of played into that. So I can't say
that they just picked on Kyler Murray because they wanted
to pick on him. He has to play better, he
has to be more consistent and all this. But here's
what I would say. It's a lot easier to gamble

(21:04):
on someone who has shown the ability to play at
a high level dan to wait on someone that you're hoping, well,
maybe he can do it. We've seen Calamary play at
a high level. Now it's about finding a way to
get him to that level consistently.

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believe it not a week from today's selection Sunday for

(23:13):
the NTAA basketball tournament. But but there's a bigger tournament
out there and it starts to day after the ANTIBA
crowns the new champion has decided, and that's going to
be on April the seventh. All right. The Division one
men's portal opens for a fifteen day window on the
seventh of April. And the coach of UCLA, Mick Cronin,
had some comments on it and he said, quote I'm

(23:36):
quoting him right now, stop these kids from transferring too
much because nobody's going to graduate. How do you like that? Finally,
I heard someone in academics, someone in academic I never
heard of college president say this, but now a coach
is saying that these kids got a graduate. And I wonder, Buck,
I wonder if there has been a study of how

(23:56):
many kids who have transferred in the portal have gotten
their degrees. I doubt, I mean, education has become such
a far reaching, I guess integral part of this whole process,
and this is college athletics and universities and no one cares.
Maybe Krona's going to start a movement here, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Now, it's a self serving thing for him to say that, right,
So he's saying, oh, you know what about the kids
graduating whatever, But what he's really saying is I need
my team to stay around more so I can have
more success as a coach. If he was being sincere
and honest about that, he would say it like that.
But to high behind the guys of education, it sounds good.

(24:42):
But does his actions match up to his desires? Meaning
does he make sure that all the kids in UCLA
are taking steps to get their degree or is it
just talk to really fuel his interest to have the
better team. I agree with Mick chronic there shouldn't be
the freedom in terms of all the transferring or whatever.

(25:02):
But until the NCAA into these institutions engage in some
kind of collective bargaining agreement because they are treating the
students as employees, you can't have it both ways. You
can't high behind the guys of amateurism and pay the
players but hold him to these standards. If you're not
holding your coaches and everybody else, it's the same thing.

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It just doesn't work because the employees, really they are.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I would say this, I think this statement rings a
lot of truth what McK corny says. I think it
would be more credible if he wasn't a coach. PU
You're right, I mean he's saying that for his own
self interest. But the point is that he makes a
lot of sense in the same token saying that. But again,
I mean I think that in my mind, I think
that this entire nil transfer portal, the whole deal, has

(25:52):
hurt college basketball, hurt college football. And I tell you
why I say that. I used to really enjoy watching
a kid come in there a freshmen and watching them
grow freshman, sophomore, junior, wherever it may be, and have
a team formulate a roster. You can't even follow a
team with their roster anymore. I mean, it's almost worse

(26:12):
than the pros. I mean, there's a bigger turnover in
college rosters than the pro rosters. There really is. And
maybe you know, I'm just too old fashioned and so
used to the way it used to be, But I
think there's a lot of people that believe what I
believe right now that something has to be done. It
can't remain like this. It's not good. And I do

(26:34):
believe they should be paid, There's no doubt in my
mind they should be paid. But you know it's not
fair when you look at the Big East. Bok take
a look at the Big East. Three schools are dominating
the Big East. Connecticut which lost his state of Marquette, Connecticut, Villanova,
and Saint John's. Other than that, there's a vast wasteland
in the Big East. Why because those schools spend more

(26:55):
money for their players than the other schools. It's as
simple as that.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
So people have to make a decision either they want
to play with the big boys or they want to
drop down to play with the little boys. But if
it's a big boy game, where the dollars are significant
and you can't compete, then don't try and play in
that level. You have to drop down. And I think
people have to confront the harsh financial realities that in
today's college football and basketball world you have to have

(27:21):
dollars to be able to do it. And I know
that the powers that be are relying on an executive
order that could be coming down to play from President
Trump to slow things down. But here's what I will say,
and this is why we're in this predicament. If the powers,
meaning the coaches, the athletic directors, the presidents and those

(27:45):
things had shared some of the money with the players early,
we wouldn't be here. But Reed ultimately led to this situation.
Athletic directors, all presidents all this to NC DOUBLEA. They
did not want to compensate the players, even though everyone
was making boatloads of money off at the back of

(28:06):
the players. And so you got to put them and
include them in the pie. If you don't want to
give them a piece of pie. What you have now
is this situation, and it's only going to get worse
until they agree to make the players a big part
of it, Until they collectively bargain. What the situation is.
You can't have a salary cap, You can't have any
of those things until you acknowledge that you really are

(28:28):
treating these players like employees.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Money trump's competitiveness, and what do I mean by that?
I would say this. I live in the Midwest, and
I've seen the University of Cincinnati change conferences every several years.
They've gone a big oh, you name the conference. They
were in it, all right, but they were in the
American Conference several years ago before they went to the
Big Twelve and the American Conference. They dominated the American Conference.

(28:55):
But the money, the money trump competition. What do I
mean by that? They get a good chunk of change
being in the Big twelve. Will they ever be able
to be competitive in the Big Twelve? I don't think so.
And I hate to say that, I don't think they
will be real competitive in it because they don't have
the backers, they don't have the alums, they don't have
the money. Because when you have a college like a

(29:17):
Kansas or Oklahoma or these schools that basically are the
prime athletic venue in that marketplace, everybody rallies around them.
You have a city like the Cincinnati where they have
to compete with another college and Division one with Xavier.
They got pro teams like the Cincinnati Raids and the Bengals.
It's very difficult to share the wealth in a city

(29:38):
like that, So I don't think they could compete. That's
my problem. But they love being in that Big twelve
because they share the wealth of that conference and the
money that that conference generates.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean like, yeah, the money's significant. The money
is department altering when they have that. That's why they
want to participate in those big conferences. They want the
big pay day those things. But when it comes to
the big payday, there also comes other things that you
have to be ready for. And some of that includes, look,

(30:10):
having to pay big money for the blue chip players.
And if you're not willing to pay big money for
the blue chip players, you may have a blue chip
player for a year. But he ain't saying because all
the players, their agents, their families are chasing the bag.
They're looking for the bigger bag, just like me. We
could say corporate America. People always looking for the bigger check.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Okay, so what does the school like Miami University do
That kind of puts a bad news I guess a
bad situation for schools that are competing. You can got
Miami is like about thirty miles north of the University of Cincinnati.
University of Cincinnati basketball right now is struggling. Bad loss
yesterday to TCU. All right, but Miami's thirty one and

(30:53):
oh and the athletic threat there since I he's going
to say, wait a minute. You know, Miami is undefeated.
They got players that the payer not paying them half
of what we're paying our guys. I understand that they're
not playing the same schedule we're playing, but it certainly
looks bad that they're undefeated and we're struggling. Going to
be five hundred in the conference, I mean, what kind
of pressure is that through? I got to believe that.

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Right now, the athletic director, John Cunningham University of Cincinnati
is debating in his own mind whether West Miller is
going to return as basketball coach of Cincinnati next year.
Five years has never been in the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's a long time with I've been in the.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Tournament, right, I mean, like Miami. The Miami's success I
think puts a lot of pressure on his decision. I
really believe that.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, I would agree with you, like, yeah, I mean,
that's a long time to not have success. And I look,
if we're talking about big business, big money business, you
can't sustain it if you're not in the tournament. You
have to show some level of success. And so becomes

(32:00):
the chicken or to egg debate what comes first the
success or A we got to pay the players to
then have the success. But whatever it is, Cincinnati has
to make the decision like a lot of other teams
have to make decisions regarding what is best in terms
of approaching the building process, the team building process to

(32:21):
be able to sustain it and make it happen for
them for a long time.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Okay, And the one thing that I understand, I get
the guys should be paid money. And I understand that
there're sometimes bigger lums that put up big cash. Why
they do it, I don't know. You were in Alumba,
North Carolina. I know you would never put up a diamond.
I don't blame you because it's crazy because you put
up money for a kid. Next thing, you know, the
kids leaving in New York the creek. But here's the deal.
The transfer portal they allow a player to find a

(32:45):
new school every off season. This kid, Chad Baker Mazzara
was on his fifth school, twenty six years of age,
fifth school, and last week he parted ways with USC
and it's unbelievable. There's got to be some sort of
a rule. I think John callip I already said this,
the coach of office. I think about a week or
two ago that you know, he doesn't mind them transferring,

(33:05):
but maybe only once one time transfer that shit. And
I don't understand why you don't sit out that that
would kind of stop the transferring from year to year.
How do you go to five schools? How do you
play at the age of twenty six? I don't understand.
It doesn't make any sense. It really doesn't.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
It doesn't, and it's really hard to deal with. But
you can't put a cap in a limit on how
many times a kid can transfer, unless you can put
a cap in a limit on how many times a
coach can change teams. You know, see, because what we
want is one thing for the players, but we don't
want the same thing for the coaches. And it can't
be that. If we talk about free enterprise and capitalistic society,

(33:45):
like it can't work like that. So I hear what
we're saying, But we're gonna have to take those traditional
norms and the things that we've been pitched in a
customer to seeing for the last thirty years. We go
to throw that out the door. That no longer exists
in this world. And we have to be able to
give players some freedoms. Now, if we can get to

(34:07):
the table and negotiate with the players, we can come
up with some rules that are fair for everybody involved.
But right now, the power players don't want to negotiate
with the players who have all the freedoms and should
have the freedoms. So until we sit down at the
table and negotiate, yeah, there's nothing. All this is talking.

(34:28):
It's all one sided. It has to be fair, and
right now, what people want is a one sided deal
where the heavy hitters the suits get what they want,
but the players don't get anything in return.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Okay, but we're not seeing coaches bouncing around as much
as they did in years pass. I'll tell you why,
of course, to the pey.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, but like the money and no the money though,
Like you got coaches making thirteen million dollars right thirteen
million dollars and we have players who are now just
beginning to get money. But coaches have been making significant
money for two decades and players haven't been able to
do anything. Players couldn't go and get like extra stuff

(35:07):
from the training table or whatever. So if the greedy
people have been willing to share early, they wouldn't be
in this situation. So you're not going I'm not going
to side with them because they could have made it
a lot easier on themselves early on.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Okay, I hear what you're saying. I just want to
throw this out there and see what you have to
say before we roll along here. Okay, basketball players and
football players are making money. They're making good money. Are
the swimmers making money? Are the soccer players making money?
I understand that maybe only the revenue the revenue sports
are making money. I don't know. But athletes are athletes.
Everybody puts in time track all right, soccer you name it,

(35:44):
and hockey? Okay, are those guys making money? We don't
hear about that. We're about football and basketball. Is it fair?
You tell of being fair? The coach is making big money, Well,
let all the athletes make money, and that all the
athletes don't make money.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Okay, well they can make money if so, there's a
difference between revenue and non revenue. But let's dig deeper.
Basketball and football, we're funding all those Olympic sports, right Like,
let's be clear, football and basketball are the money makers
for the institutions. They have been paying everybody. They've lined
up everybody's pockets. They've provided opportunities not only for their

(36:18):
own sports, but for all those other sports that are
living on the backs of the work of the football
and basketball players. So, yeah, they can make money, but
they'll make money commiserate with their contributions to the university.
If they contribute to the university, sure you get money too.
But if you're not contributing, now, you don't get a
chance to get a big check. If you're not bringing

(36:38):
in the type of revenue that brings back big checks
to the university.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
All right, I hear you. He's bucket books and many throwner.
We call him Bucky, but really he's the answer man.
Why ask Bucky is next? Fox Sports Radio has the
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(37:05):
Sunday on Fox Plus Radio about ten minutes before the
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and we're live from the Fox Plus Radio studios. But
right now it's type for RAS Bucky and I mean,
it's time for the Little Dupper. Little Dupper, take it over, Babe.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
What up?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Everybody's time for ask Bucky and Bucky? What's up?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Man?

Speaker 1 (37:26):
How we doing?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I'm good, little Dupper? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
What's going on? We back in the saddle?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Well, I got a specific question for you first before
I read them all down here, but I got one
a Seahawks related one, because you know, mys Seahawks on
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
What's up?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
But with that said, so we think Kenny Walker is
probably not coming back, probably gonna venture around. I got
a question for you, though, Buck, who do you think
Seattle will be targeting running back wise?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I think they're actually gonna look for someone in the
draft and the a few different guys that they could
maybe target into the second or so around right, And
because of that. I think that's why they won't. They
didn't tag them, That's why they'll let them go and
they find one of those young guys to Jaron Price
from Notre Dame, Emmitt Johnson, Mike Washington, one of those

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backs will probably be in Seattle next year.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
I like that answer a lot, I really really do.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I love all those guys that said, let's move on
here to our little ask questions. So, Bucky, you are
proud to our Heel grad And there seems to be
some controversy over their basketball home, the Deen Doome, after
forty years of service. The question in Chapel Hill is
renovate or relocate?

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Your thoughts, I.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Would say renovate, but I know there's a big push
because it's about revenue generation. How do you generate revenue
where you've got to have luxury suites and boxes in
those things. That's why there is to push for a
new modern stadium that has those amenities. But the Dnome
has been there forever. It's an institution. There are a
lot of old school Carolina people that love it. So

(38:57):
it's gonna be a hard decision for the Carolina people
to come down on whether the renovator or whether it
get a new spot.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Interesting. I like that, all right.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Next question I got for you, So which pro sports
league is more popular, Bucky, the w NBA or the MLS.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Which got.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
I would say the w NBA is more popular if
done the right way. MLS I just don't think has
gotten traction, even though I love soccer and that stuff,
it just hasn't. It just hasn't connected for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
All Right, I like that.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I also agree, I think WNBA is a lot more entertaining,
at least right now. Also speaking of popular here, so
your number one choice of the Whopper, Wendy's Double, or
the new McDonald's Arch.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
What's your new number one? Buck?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I would say the Whopper Over those things tried and true,
Let's go with tradition, the Whopper. And the thing about
the Whopper compared to the other ones, you can always
get it your way, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I try to get the watch the other day. The
line was so big I just drove away. I mean,
I haven't had anyone tried the Arch yet. The new
McDonald's Arch.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
I mean their CEO didn't seem too pleased about it,
so I don't know it didn't look very appetizing me.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
No, I saw a picture of it, that's what I Yeah,
that's about it though.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Anything else, Yeah, I got one more for us. So
computers and keyboards killed cursive handwriting. Now, several states are
requiring schools to start teaching cursive writing to students. New
Jersey and Pennsylvania passed the legislation this year requiring schools
to teach kids to read and write like their grandparents did.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
Do you agree with that, Bucky?

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yes, I believe writing is important. You need to be
able to write, so yes, I believe they should make
them learn how to write in cursive. They need to
spend more time reading as well.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
How do you like that?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
So I got for you?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
All right, Thank you very much, little dumber. But Bucket
was there. We need a full report that and so
much more. Where Fox Bus Are they coming up right here?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Next? Oh?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
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Speaker 2 (41:37):
What's going on? Man? What's having any What have you heard?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
We talked about this in the s Bucky said, what
have you heard about that new Dean? Don't perhaps a
relocation of the revamping of it. You're in a lumba.
He's sending up material on that. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I mean, there's a lot of conversation discussion about it.
The financial real of college football basketball makes it where
you need to have luxury suites in those things so
you can have sponsorship opportunities, you can find a way
to generate more revenue. However, the nostalgic part of the
Dean Dome, and the fiscally responsible thing to do is
probably to renovate an existing building because it doesn't cost

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as much. Given the lore and the history and those things. Man,
I think it'd be hard for us to get a
lot of Carolina people to support that, just because that
means so much more to them than some of the
financial game that would come from a new stadium that's
at a different part of campus.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Right, And speaking of stadiums and Baltimore, I just heard
Steve the Sager at the top of the hour with
the sports update the Baltimore had a soccer game against
Miami and Messi was obviously playing for Miami seventy two thousand.
I mean that doesn't hurt them. I mean, honestly, that's unbelievable.
Seventy two thousand. I guess just to see Messi, right,
I'm sure that was the deal.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Oh, it is just to see Messi, That's that's what
it is for sure. Wow, he can't command it. But
the problem with the MLS is they get a lot
of international stars at the end of their.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Career, no doubt, so it's different.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Like they have name value, but they're still not at
the top of their game. And if they were able
to get those guys early, it'll be fine. But the
American League that like the MLS is viewed as one
of the substandard leagues. Everyone goes to Premier League or
the leagues that play overseas, and we just don't have
that cachet in soccer like some of the other leagues overseas.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's funny, it's the same situation. I worked in the
North American Soccer League, which is no more, and I
was the fourth load of those strikers and they get
some big names. But at the tail end of their career.
We had George Best. We had a one eyed goalie.
It was from England. He was great, Gordon Banks.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Uh he had one eye.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, it was great. I mean I was the pr guy.
What a great story he was, Gordon Banks, he had
one he was blind in one eye and uh he
was a goalkeeper, the heck of a goalkeeper. But you know,
a guys, these guys are in the tail end of
their career. Their best days were in Europe, in England.
That's you know. George Best was big. He was at
the Joe Namath of the sport. But when he came

(44:11):
he only had a couple of years of remaining and
I had some problems. May he rest in peace, he's gone,
But very similar to the MLS. They get the guys
at the tail end of their career, their better days
are beyond than passed. But they sell and the names
do sell here and that's why people go see him play.
And nothing to take away from Messi. I mean, he's
still he's still got some juice and he's doing well.

(44:33):
But he's not the Messi that he was five years ago,
no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
No he's not. And yeah, so it's just a different product, right.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I want to talk to you if I can, about
the Combine because it intrigues me, and you were there
so you could tell me about this, Okay, I want
to dig a little deeper several things the combine right now.
Is it more valuable honestly for the players or is
it more valuable for NFL executives. I never understood that
the gizmo of the combine. I think the Combine to

(45:04):
me is like an immedia deal. That's basically what it is.
You know, keeps the NFL in the limelight, marketing and
pr that's what it does. It keeps the NFL news alive.
But who's it more valuable for? Really?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Originally the value is for the players and the teams.
The players would have an opportunity to showcase their talents
for all the teams. The teams we get a chance
to interview the players that they've looked at and studied
in research over the past couple of years, but this
would be the first time they have face to face meetings.
You begin to make decisions off of the game tape,

(45:39):
the femin evaluation, what you've seen them from a workout perspective,
but also from the interviews. So it's a million dollar
job interview that you need to make sure that you
impress to secure your spot in the draft. And what
has become has become a media event, right This has
become a made for TV showcase and we've done it

(46:02):
like because it's popular you think about just college draft
and mock drafting and those things. It feeds the frenzy
because we're watching, in essence, a track meet with our
NFL stars with some football highlights sprinkled in to get
us excited. And the NFL has done a great job
of keeping fans' interests twenty four to seven, three sixty five.

(46:23):
There's always an event designed to keep your eyes on
the National Football League. There's no other league that can
say or do what the NFL does when it comes
to that.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
You know, I can't believe that the league executives are
that smart, but it just happened to work out that way.
They decided to have a combine. They got it done.
But obviously every several weeks there's an event that keeps
the NFL in the news, kind of like a soap opera. Really,
but what would NFL life be like if they didn't
have the combine? You know, who would it hurt? Would
it hurt ownership, would it hurt executive scouts or would

(46:55):
it hurt the players more if they just did away
with it because I had been some talk, but that
may not have the combine anymore, right, and not having
at least in Indianapolis, which I think is a great
place because it's in the middle of the country.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, there's been some talk about it moving around, but
india is such a great place because everything essentially located.
You can get in and out of the hospitals, you
can house all the players and the NFL personnel that's
in town downtown. It's a walkable city. Given their understanding
of conventions and how to entertain people, they do a

(47:29):
really good job. It's cookie cutter. It's easy to do
those things, so I expect it always to be there,
even though moving into a different locale. Jerry Jones has
always wanted to see if he can move it to Frisco,
Texas at their facility because they have a similar infrastructure,
but it would be very lucrative for him to have it.
There have been other cities that have been discussed because

(47:51):
a what about a sunset background to put with the event?
Would that be more pro visually appealing to view So
there's a lot of stuff, but at the end of
the day, it's really a football event and we need
to keep the main thing the main thing. Make it
about football, not about all the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Okay, I'm going back to NFL dot Congress. I always
read Bucket books at NFL dot com, and you picked
the twenty twenty six l NFL Scouting Combine team, which
I had never seen anybody do. I think you're a
first has ever done that. What happens, though, buck If
a player doesn't attend to combine and he's invited to
the combine and he says I ain't gone, what happens

(48:28):
to that player? How much would it hurt him or
would it hurt him?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I mean, like if you go and not work out,
like that's one thing, but you need to do the
interviews because they have to get a couple of things done.
They need to talk to you, and they need you
to go through a medical evaluation like that has to happen.
That's a non negotiable. So the combine is the easiest
place to do it. You have to get all those
things done. So that's it. If you don't want to

(48:55):
work out or whatever. We've seen guys kind of skirt
it and avoid it with out I would say penalty
in like the new era. So we'll see if people
will continue to do it. But yeah, like it's one
of those things like it's your choice to participate or not.
But choices sometimes do come with consequences. So choose was washing?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
And how do you get invited in? How many players
I don't know if you have this number offhand, but
how many players in your mind have gotten drafted in
the NFL Draft that have not attended the combine?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Not many? I mean, I mean, don't take that. I'll
take that back. There have been players that have been drafted, right,
every year we see players who didn't get a Combine invite,
but they are either drafted undrafted free agents. In those things,
there's a saying in the league that hey, man, if
you can play, we'll find you. And scouts typically find
players you know, you hear about them, you see them,

(49:53):
you find a way to track them down in those things.
The Combined does a good job of bringing over three
hundred plus players to the event to give them a
chance to have the interviews, go through the medical stuff
and the like. So it's rare that you miss out
on someone, but it's important that you get all that
information because you make those draft decisions based on what

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you know about those players.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
You know, right, we hear about the players all time.
Let me ask about the front office staff of various
NFL teams. How many do attend? Is the head coach,
I'm sure I head coach of every team? Is there?
Personnel director? Scouts from every team? Of there? About how many?
How many people make up a contingent of an NFL

(50:38):
party that attends to Combine a dozen? Half dozen? How
many people do that? Like you go with Jacksonville, how
many Jacksonville staffers were there?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Well, there are a lot of Jacksonville staffords. But the
news that came out of there, Jacksonville's head coach, general manager,
and EVP executive vice president didn't show up, and people
are wondering, why w those guys not go to the event. Well,
the LA RAMS and other teams from the Tree have
bypassed the event because they say they're trying to eliminate
some of the biases that can take place when you go.

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They have boots on the ground many they have lower
level staff personnel on the ground conducting interviews, doing some
of the grunt work, but the decision makers are back
in their offices taking care of business. Because remember, a
couple of things are working at the same time. You
got free agency, got a kickoff this week, and that
is beginning. You're beginning to prep for that during the combine.

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So if you're at the combine, it takes your way
from fully being able to prepare for free agency. The
other part of it is sitting down with the interviews.
You only get to sit to get fifteen minutes. Do
I want to go out there, Do I want to
disrupt my off season planning to participate in that, or
can I look at the videos or zoom in and

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do some other things that will also allow me to
be productive. That's what you have. But most teams, old
school team, they're sitting everybody man. They're in their their
their scouting staff from the college side, just ending their directors,
college director, general managers and all that. They're all in
attendance so they can have a good feel for what
the player is like and what we potentially could be

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bringing them in.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Let me stop you for a secments. You mentioned the
term they'll send a lot of people Jackson over goes
a bias. What does that mean? What do you mean
by bias? I mean the notion of a various player,
and they may change their mind by seeing that player.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yes, because everything that we talk about at the workout
is basically attract me. And sometimes you ignore what a
person has done as a player because he's such a
dynamic athlete who shines in this version of a track meet.
What some are trying to do is eliminate that have
their grades in before this part so you're not swayed

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by performance. That leads you to look at the tape
differently because you know, I know his speed, so he's
playing faster. It can warp your sensibility when it comes
to the evaluation after the combine when you see it,
they're trying to eliminate some of those things as they're
working through the board.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
All right, So help me out here now, because I
know a lot of these colleges have what they call
a pro day. What's the difference between a pro day
and the combine? And do the same players who attend
the combine have that pro day. Help me out with that.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Well, pro day is on the player's campus and he'll
go through it with all the scout I mean, the
scals from the area and attendance. The problem with the
pro day, you're not going to get the nine hundred
NFL officials to your one pro day. There are multiple
pro days going on at the same time. The benefits

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of the combine everybody that's worth anything in the league
is there, so you have an opportunity to maximize your
chances of playing about working out in front of everybody.
When you do it at your pro day, only a
limited number of people are there and you don't have
the same kind of influence evaluators and attendance that can

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boost your chances of being drafted.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
Okay, so the combine is basically headed up by the NFL.
The NFL invites you, you go there. How does the
pro day work? If I'm a college quarterback, I'm a senior,
I'm going to be drafted. I say I want to
have a pro day? What do I do? I hire
an agent. He does that and he sends notes out
the emails all the NFL clubs. That's such and such
as having a pro day. How does the pro day work?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
This is the caountar that that is set up and
goes down and a lot of times that calendar is
set while the guys are here at the combine. So
they announced when everyone's pro day is. As a scout,
you put those dates on the calendar and you make
your schedule based on those pro days. But it's an
event that is Yeah, it's an event that is set

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up and orchestrated by the college. They set that up. Hey,
when we're going to do the days, and they try
and do it in conjunction with other schools in the
area going so you can get maximum viewing from everybody.
Everybody that is somebody will kind of make their way through.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, but the pro day, Let's say, if I'm a quarterback,
the Pro Day, they're not going through the forty odd dash,
and then they're not doing the long jump and the
broad jump and anything like that. Just throwing the football.
I guess their intended receiver. That's what they're doing. A
Pro day right now, you're doing everything.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
You're doing all that you see, Yeah, you're doing all
that other stuff. And then what you're doing is you're
doing some things that may be specific to the teams
that are in attendance. Meaning I am with the Carolina
Panthers who say we need a quarterback. All right, Well,
after the workout a quarterback, I want you to work
on these things. I want to see these things from you.

(55:46):
So that's the difference. In a pro day. Pro Day,
it's a little more tailored. It was very general to combine.
This is more specific to a team, and it becomes
even more specific when it's a private workout, one team,
one player working out.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Okay, so I'm having a if I go to the Combine,
all the thirty two clubs are going to watch me
work out. But if if I have a Pro Day,
there's a good chance maybe two or three is that it.
How does that work depends?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
It depends on the schedule depends on what's going on.
Let's say you're there in Cincinnati. Cincinnati would be wise
to put their pro day the same week of Ohio State.
Ohio State is always going to attract a bunch of scouts,
So I want to go the next day, either before
or after Ohio State, so I can have that contingent

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make their way to Cincinnati. So it's about being aware,
a who are the big fish? Ohio State is the
biggest fish in that state, So you want to make
sure you go when they go because it gives you
a chance to get everybody there.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
All right, Now, you you did pick like an old
combine team, And honestly, there's tail and Green. I mean
you talk about some guy who came out of no
came out of left field, the quarterback ont Arkansas. I
mean he did well for himself at the Combine, didn't
them mean as far as what he did is the
forty dash and things like that. Tailor and Green did
he have a great year at Arkansas? I mean he

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was kind of overlooked. I would think now all of
a sudden people are talking about Tailing Green is a
possible first round pick because the quarterback class coming out
this year is not that strong, right.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, he's not gonna be a first round pick. He's
a whole forulhim. He was inconsistent throughout a time. But
the numbers are soiled, right. He had over ninety total touchdowns.
He had thirty five rushing touchdowns, which is a big
part of that number. He's a dual threat playmaker. And
you saw with that size being over sixty five, that
speed for three seven forty three vertical jump eleven to

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two broads up. All those numbers are ridiculous. There's gonna
be a team that says, hey, man, come here and
try and play quarterback. But if quarterback doesn't work, man,
you sure have the potential to maybe be a good
wide receiver. They's see if we can make you a slash.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Okay, now you would say this and this is the
way my mind works. Okay. Taylor Green is okay, and
he's gonna get drafted. He's going to get a pro contract,
whatever it may be, be a receiver, quarterback, whatever it
might be. But he's somewhat lucky that Julian saying the
quarterback of Ohio State's only a sophomore and wasn't there,
don't you agree. I mean you gotta be a little
lucky too with the people who are in your class.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah, there's some of that, and there's some people to
say that's why Todd Simpson came out this year as
opposed to waiting really to get more experience. Yeah, with
all the quarterbacks that can come out next year, meaning
Dante Moore, whoever, Leonori. So I mean there's so many
guys that can come on next year that he's saying, no, no, no,
I take my chances this year and see what happens

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because next year, a crowded bunch he had lost in
the shuffle.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Wow, he right about that. Okay, running back, I think
hands down you knew this back by Thanksgiving that Jeremiah
Love was the guy, and I mean a tremendous running back.
And whether it gets him, you know, they're somewhat lucky. Really,
I think he's the guy, right.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, to a point. But no one knew that he
was dis explosive. Everyone knew he was a really good
football player, right, Like, there's no disputing that you saw
for two years back to back thousand yard seasons, the
way that he put the ball in the paint consistently
from everywhere you knew he was pretty special. But what
you didn't know is the athlete that showed up four
to three seven is real. Watch him go through drills.

(59:31):
The jump cut that he has is special. Reminds me
of a lot of the way Ladany Thomason used to
get through the whole. He is fantastic, catches the ball
out the backfield. He's about as complete as they come
as a running back prospect.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Interesting. I want to go to wide receiver, and to me,
probably the best wide receiver in the country right now
is a softbow. But my name of Jeremiah Smith from
Ohio State. So compare Zachariah Branch from Georgia to to Smith,
I mean in the same league. Or is Smith head
and shoulders above him? How does that work? Because you
have a Branch as your old combine receiver, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Would say, like the thing about Branch is he is
super explosive for a four three five dynamic as a
wide receiver in terms of catch and run a building
and at the combine he showed up and showed out
forty times. The way he went through drills, all of
that may be exceeded expectations for me in terms of

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who he is and what he can be as a player.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Interesting, you know, and you also have a kid from
Georgia State, Ted Hurst, And when I see that, I
have a big question mark. And I'm sure I'm not
the only one. And I wonder if NFL scouts feel
the same way the competition he's playing against. You know,
you hate to put that on a kid if he's
got great skill and he's a good skill level guy.
But Georgia State is not the same schedule as George.

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I think it's a major difference there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Uh yeah, Georgia. I mean it's a difference. You know,
we talked about Georgia State and uh, you know the
other thing. But what you gotta do is you gotta
be a dominant player. And he had an opportunity to
be a dominant player because he showed up at the
Senior Bowl and had success. So the questions that I
normally would have, I'm not gonna have about him just

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because he played really well when he got his chance
at the Senior Bowl and he's checked the boxes every
step of the way.

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All right, I hear what you're saying. I don't think
anybody else picked an Old Combine team except Bucket Brooks
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But right now, let's talk records. Let's talk NBA records
if we can right now, and we're gonna do it, Okay,
and Bucket, I'm gonna tell you, I think you know
that I've always been critical when people talk about NFL
rushing records gaining one thousand yards in the season and
that they always say that's the benchmark, but it's seventeen games, Okay,
Jim Brown, I did this research, believe it or not.
I did. Jim Brown in nineteen fifty eight game one

(01:03:23):
thousand five hundred and twenty seven yards in twelve games,
in twelve games. A year later in fifty nine, they
had thirteen hundred and twenty nine yards in twelve games.
In nineteen sixty twelve hundred and fifty seven yards twelve games. Okay,
So when they say a guy rushes for one thousand
yards in seventeen games, I'm not that impressed. You know,

(01:03:45):
they got to change that a little bit. They talk
about records, put a little asterisk next to it. Really,
Jim Brown was the more I read about Jim Brown
and what he did back then, it's bigger now than
it was then because now then they've got a big
deal about one thousand yards and seventeen games. He did
it in twelve twelve games. Amazing, Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
And that's what's hard about today's record keeping. It's not
a level playing field, right, So you went from twelve
fourteen to sixteen now seventeen games. Those old records are
look there, they're falling. They're falling because people are playing
more games, more ball. So you have to put an
ask you by there if you could put little different

(01:04:28):
designations depending on what the minimum game or what the
schedule was, the length of the season. To me, that
would help because even the wide receiver record that's undersawt.
We're talking about Cooper Cup and some of these guys. Man,
it's skewed because of the additional amount of games that
you have.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
But you know what, I think the average fan doesn't care.
You know, you talk about it. Media don't even care.
I mean they don't. It's just it's a Record's a record,
that's what it is. Okay. And the other day, Lebron James,
he broke a record in the National Basketball Association. No,
he's already scored the most points in NBA history. Now
he's made the most baskets field goals, And we take
a closer look right now. Who was Thursday night against

(01:05:05):
Denver and the Lakers lost won twenty one to thirteen.
He made field goal number fifteen, eight hundred and thirty eight,
passing Kareem for the most field goals made an NBA history.
Now Lebron passed Kareem as a leading scorer back in
twenty twenty three, even thirty eight thousand, three hundred eighty
eight points. He now has more than forty three thousand.
But I want to take a closer look, right now

(01:05:26):
because Lebron he's still playing obviously twenty three seasons in
the NBA. Kareem only played twenty seasons. All right, there's
a difference. But I checked a little further and as
of the sixth of March, Lebron has played one thousand,
six hundred six games. Kareem did it at one five
hundred and sixty games. Is it a real record? I

(01:05:48):
don't know. Then mayke a big deal about it. I
just think that time is a fact that when Lebron
has played more games, played three more years in Kareem
and now he's got the record, something has to be changed. Really,
I mean, I get crazy over nil. I think I'm
crazier over this with statistics because it's not accurate. It
really is. It's not fair. I mean Kareem's taking a

(01:06:10):
back seat. I don't think he should.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, No, I mean I think when you talk about Kareem,
Lebron and all those Kareems should never take a back seat.
The game is different than those things that I don't
think we make mention of the old generation. When we do,
it's always kind of like taking a swipe, right, Like
you have people talking about like, oh, a bunch of
plumbers and those things that we're playing in those days,
and it's not really fair to the dominance that those

(01:06:37):
guys showed during their time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
That s it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I think you can appreciate the new generation while still
paying homage to the old generation. It's just about understanding
the time, what the expectations were like in those things,
and you know the game changed, but you still want
to recognize and appreciate those who dominated during their respective errors.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Yeah, and it's kind of crazy because media people and
I hate to go down this road on going to
do it. I've never done it comparing Lebron with MJ
because that's crazy. It's his crazy situation. But I'm going
to compare statistics right now. Championships. Kareem won six NBA titles,
Lebron won four, okay, and MVP. Kareem won six and
Lebron won four. All Right. When I talk about great players,

(01:07:18):
and they talk about the greatest players in the NBA,
you never hear Kareems. Now, I'm telling you he was
the all time leading scorer until Lebron and Lebron did
it because he's played longer and played more games than Kareem. Okay,
and I think that's that's a major reason why. But
when you talk about great players, I don't hear his
name up there. I hear Will Chamberlain, I hear Michael,

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but I don't hear Kareem. And I don't know why.
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I think I think there's some relatability right. People don't
view him it. They can't relate to a guy who
is that big, dat tall, who had an unstoppable shot
and a hook shot. They don't respect it. Whereas in
this air, remember all these young people grew up in
the Michael Jordan air and then the Lebron are they
used to see in a different game. The old generation,

(01:08:08):
it was inside out. It was you had to have
a dominant big man. Nil It's become a perimeter game.
It's about wings and guards and those things. Just differences.
We'll see if the pendulum ever swings. But Kareem Abdul
Jabbari does not get enough credit for its greatness.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
And I'll tell you one of the reasons why I
don't think he was liked. I think they a lot
of media people who looked at him as a militant
and they didn't like him. I really believe that I
think the media could really judge a player and put
a hex on a play. I'll give you an example.
Back in the day, Steve Carlton, Lefty, played pitch for
the Philadelphia Phillies Hall of Fame, a great pitcher. He

(01:08:44):
refused to do interviews with various media people, and one
of those media people was the late Phil Peppi of
the New York Daily News. And Phil Peppy was president
of the National Baseball Writers at the time, and he
kind of just made it a point of not wanting
to get Calton into the Hall of Fame. For whatever
the reason was. It was a personal thing. And I

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think people do that, and I think a lot of
times the public judges a player and how he's viewed
in the media. And I think when a player goes
on TV for five to ten minutes on TV could
change an entire attitude of a fan towards a player.
I really believe that, and I think it's important. And
I think that when you read about a player, and

(01:09:26):
a guy writes a column about a player, talk about
what Kareem has done in his career and what the
books he's written and with the stances he's taken, who
cares he's a great player and leave that other garbage
out of it. But people judge Kareem that way, and
I think that Kareem has been putting in a bad
light because of media people, and I think to some

(01:09:47):
extent he's bitter about that too. I really believe that
Kareem is somewhat bitter about that too. And I don't
know why Kareem never even got a job as a coach.
I know he's an assistant coach at one point in
time with the Lakers, but I think at one point
in time also, he always wanted to be a head
coach in the NBA and never got that deal.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
I mean, he shapes a lot of what we think
about people, and depending on his interactions with those people,
it was detrimental to his long term outlook and his
long term dreams. It's unfortunate because to know the man
and to know what he was able to do, his
activity in the community, his willingness to look be an author,

(01:10:26):
to do different things that he's done along the journey,
he should be an inspiration as opposed to someone who
was vilified for some of those things that he was
involved in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I agree it's funny in the same token about people
and how they're treated, what they do. Last week, I
think NBC, I think it was on Tuesday night, they
did a great thing of the NBA. They brought back
Bob Costas, and they brought back the illustrator and things
like that. And one of the people they didn't bring
back was Hall of Fame writer Pvesse. Pvesse, I know,
Wellie from the New York Day News right for the

(01:10:57):
USA Today, and he was bitter. He was bitter that
he wasn't invited back, and he probably should have been
invited back, because I think I put a hex on
NBC by not bringing him back. But the amount of
social media material that was I had no idea, and
I know p Vess for a long time, but I
had no idea that when he was inducted to the
Hall of Fame, they said his Hall of Fame speech
was so bad. Now Michael Jordan walked out, he baded

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mouthed people. He was just he was meet the people.
Who's nasty the people, And they said that's why NBC.
In a sense, that's they believe NBC didn't invite him
back because he treated people in a poor manner and
he didn't bring him back. But I think it's a
bad look for NBC to bring everybody back for the
old broadcast and not bring Pete Vesse back. He was
a major part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
He was a major part of it. But you don't
know how that would have impacted some of the old
school people that have been involved in the telecast. I
do remember Peter Vessi as a lightning rod, right like.
He took controversial stances. I mean, in a way he
was Skip Bayless before Skip Bayless rolls to prominence, but
in a different role. He took shots. He had strong

(01:12:03):
opinions in those things, which you should have. But hey, man,
you don't have the star. The game is always the star.
Nobody's bigger than the game. And sometimes I think all
of us, whether we're playing, whether we're on the outside,
all of us need to keep that in perspective. Nobody's
bigger than the game. You're just a role, You're just
a cog in the wheel. And I think Peter Vesi

(01:12:24):
found it out the hard way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
There's no doubt about that. Before he went to the
New York Post and he went to the USA Today,
he wrote for the New York Daily News, and he
covered the ABA, the Old American Basketball Association, and Luke
Connoseca was coaching the nets before he went back to
Saint John's and conna Seca told me his story and
may he rest in peace. He was great, Lukennoseca. He
said that he sat next to the Vessei on the

(01:12:46):
plane and he opened up, said a lot of things,
and next thing he knew, he said on the back
page and the tabloid, the New York Daily News. So
Pete Vesi was one of those guys. I guess you
got to watch yourself. But you know, Luke conna Seca
is just a gentleman. He was the best, and I
guess he felt trust in Vessi at the time. But
he opened up and said a couple of things that
made the back page headlines of the New York Daily

(01:13:08):
News and they could cause animosity between Vesi and Connoseca
for a long time for many And I'm sure Vessi
had did that to many people, not just to look Connoseca.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
He crossed them and he did. Trust. Man, when you
say something, when you say something in the confidence you
trust it, guys are don't leave it. It's kind of
like a private conversation, even though you shouldn't assume that,
but you trust that they're going to do those things.
And when they don't, man, you burn a bridge that
you can never get back.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Have you seen that as a player, I'm sure you've
seen that. Guys coming into the locker room after the game,
I'm sure you've seen that. I mean that a lot
of these players just tell something to a writer and
say this has been off the record. They use it
next thing, you know, fisticuffs maybe who knows, lightning, lightning happens,
that's what happens to a lot groom. Not good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yeah, I mean it is being a big problem, like
you just man, it's unfortunate, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
But I'll say this though, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Anything you want to keep private private.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
But there is a solution to that now. And I
think one of the solutions is social media, because if
you have an account, you have your own social media account,
like a TikTok whatever it may be. You could like
right the way you feel and you don't need a
third party to express what you have to say. You
go directly on your social media account. As an athlete,
and you could say you don't need a newspaper man

(01:14:32):
or a media type to get the word out for
you do it yourself. So there is an advantage to that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Today and that's been a big part of I mean,
that's been a big part of UH players and what
they call new media is taking control of their own
message because before you to depend on the person around you,
the writer to do it. Now you can say no,
I'm popping my you know phone, and say what I
want to say.

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There we go. All right, he's Bucket Brooks. He always
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Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Uh, let's stop all the march madness brackets and they
open the bubble garbage seed all the teams based on
nil payments.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Yay r nay and andy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Well you know what, Initially I'd say yay. But if
you do that, then you play have to do with
with budgets and salary cap deals with Major League Baseball
and every other major league team. But I kind of
like it in college because there's certainly an advantage with
teams that have more money, more loans, that are paying
with big checks to get better players. So maybe they
should do it that way. I wouldn't mind seeing it,

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why not?

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Yeah, No, I'm not necessarily with that because it doesn't
translate into success. Just because you spend a bunch of
money doesn't mean that it's always gonna work. So, I mean,
it's cute, but I don't think so. I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Wait a minute, but the team's a buck. The teams
are big money right now, paying big athletes big money
right now. They're gonna go further in the tournament. When't
you think then the teams are not. I mean, let's
face it. At the university, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
They're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
But Arizona's gonna go further than Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Yeah. I mean, but like, just because you spend money
doesn't guarantee that you don't have a lot of success.
I mean, I just think that some of those teams,
some of those teams have big rosters money wise, but
it doesn't work. You still have to coach your players,
you still have to be a really good team to
get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
We'll see, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Okay, next, All right, well let's see what happens here, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
This one was a real quick, real simple one here,
quite simply the World Baseball Classic. Just yay or nay
on that Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yay. I love it. And this is why I love it,
Because MLB has so many unwritten rules that you don't
see the personalities of the players come through time and
time again. There's a refreshing feel to watching the World
Basketball Class where guys are talking trash, guys are bat flipping.
There's a lot of energy and excitement and those things.

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To me, I love it because it's an exciting brand
of baseball that we normally don't see when the majors
are playing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
I say nay, and I'll tell you why. Because when
I turn on the radio on Sirius XM channel Lady three,
I'm hearing the World Baseball Classic instead of two pros
and a cup of Joe or Ben Maller at night.
They got those games on instead of my favorite shows
on Fox Sports Radio. How's that sang?

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Okay, Well I got one more. I got another one
for Andy and.

Speaker 4 (01:18:34):
Idaho man David Rush caught a tennis ball behind his
back from a distance of about one hundred and ninety
nine feet to claim a Guinness World record. Really a
stunt and athletic feet or just playing Look your thoughts
on this deal?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Andy?

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Or nay, nay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
The guy's a clown. He should be in the circus.
Come on, give me a break. The guys are fake,
fake and a phony A bump, right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Mean, I don't know this. Yeah, sounds pretty impressive to me.
Almost three hundred feet to catch him behind the back.
You know what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
He's a one to b athlete. He couldn't find anything
to do, so he finally found this thing to find
out to find the tennis ball behind this back. God lucky.
He must have tried a ten thousand times if he
finally cloted once.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Really, okay, all right, I'm a buckey on this one.
That's athletic. I like that. I couldn't even do it
if it was ten feet in front of me. Come on,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
So the NBA, the w NBA players are possibly putting
their season in jeopardy with demands for a new collective
bargaining agreement that includes twenty seven percent of the league's
gross revenue, higher salaries and a team salary cap and
team provided housing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Are we yay or nay on this? Bucky?

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Uh? I say, say, we're in a because we haven't
gotten enough done, but we're getting closer to a ya,
but I'm still a note. I'm still an honor close
into a YadA.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
I'm impressed because I'm in a Also, i just think
it's a little too soon to be demanding that kind
of money right now, back go off, just to drop
all right, you're still in the embryonic stage in that league.
Just back go off just a little bit. That's all
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
All Right, one more quick one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
The USA victory men's and women's hockey in the recent
Olympics will serve as a spring forward for NHL interests,
Yeah or Nandy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Hell no, hell no, we root for the country. We
don't root for the game. That's what they do wing.
They root for that country.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Yeah, I would say, uh no, it doesn't. It doesn't
need to a spring board because you can't replicate the
feel of the Olympics. So no, it doesn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Okay, we're gonna tell you what your team needs to
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All right, here we go, what your team needs. We'll
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All right, he is my guy. He's Bucky Brooks, mister football.
He knows it all top to bottom and that's why
he's here. And Bucky, I gotta tell you we move
off football for a second. I feel free with North
Carolina got it handed to them yesterday by Duke. In basketball,
I mean that Duke is tough. It doesn't make a difference.
He was coaching that team. They got the players, and
they look pretty good against you tar Heels yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Oh look, they did look pretty good against tourists. And
I feel like Duke is the best team in basketball.
Caroline unfortunately lost their best player, kayleb Wilson. That's Une excused.
That's what every team eventually has to deal with. Just
couldn't get it done, and it's unfortunate, but it is
the way of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
There's no doubt about that. And I think they're the
best team in basketball too, because Yukon did lose yesterday.
They lose to Marquette. It was last game Senior Night
than Senior Day actually, Marquette and Milwaukee yes day. Marquette
beat up on Yukon, and Dan Hurley didn't look too
good in that. When he's going to get suspended, I'm
sure maybe they say he pushed an official. Allegedly he

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said he didn't, but the videotape looked like he came
pretty close chest to chess with that official. He got
some manga management there. Hurly, better calm down, just a job.
Guy's going to get a heart attack on the court.
I mean, it's ridiculous, it really is. You know what
if you play for a guy like that, I mean,
have you played for a coach that was kind of
a lunatic. I mean you just shake your head and say,
calm down, coach man, it's a game, and I know

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you want to win, but you got to take it easy.
Your health is more important than the game. Have you
coached any played for a coach anything in that area,
like like a Dan Hurley.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
I can't say that I have. I can't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
I believe they called him off Levy and then earlyer
coach and they're both supposed to do the same thing
and the two opposite ends of the spectrum. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah, I can't say that I've ever played with anybody
or played for anybody that was a lunatic like that.
It's just hard to do that and be under control,
you know, like you just it's just rare. It's just
rare to see. So yeah, I don't know need to
even say when it comes to that, like that's just

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a real, real tough it's a really tough deal, you know,
like kind of bananas.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
It's crazy, it really is. I mean, I just I
saw Travis Steele do that a week ago when Miami
University coaches Miami University and they were playing Western Michigan. Halftime,
he walked out, he got a technical on him and
the speaker system for the band, I guess, and he
punched that and he threw it down, I guess. Yesterday,
Bruce Pearl said the former coach of Auburn. He's now

(01:23:58):
on TV as a commentator. He said he's going to
pay the twenty five hundred dollars fine that Travis Steele
had make it go do his favorite charity. So I
get it's emotional things like that, but it's it's hard
to reel it in. It really is. It's hard to
reel in. And a lot of these of these coaches
can't a lot of pressure. I mean, I think they
know they're playing for their lives and playing for their

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for their job, whatever it may be. But I think
that we have got sucked into at least I have.
I got sucked at the football. You know, we're a
week away from March Man this selection Sunday, and we're
still talking football. That's a credit to the National Football League,
isn't it. I mean that we took football year round.
It really is. I mean maybe we should have talked
a little more basketball. I don't know, but I'm I'm
talking football. I think that's what people want to talk about,

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don't you think.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Yeah? I mean it's I mean, look, it is what
it is. The popularity it's for it makes it where
that's that's that's where you want to you want to
talk about ball all the time, all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
That's what we do. And obviously the NFL has it
planned in such a way at that beginning tomorrow, players
expiring contracts going to begin negotiating with other ball clubs
because free agency gets started tomorrow and I'm looking at
the free agent list. Tell me a little bit about
Trey Hendrickson the defensive end, thirty five sacks between three

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and twenty four playing for the Bengals, but did not
have a good I guess season last year on the
field and off the Philly was injured. Of course, what
happens to Trey Hendrickson? How excited our team is going
to be to have this guy, because obviously he's thirty
one years of age, which is kind of like getting
in the graybeard situation for defensive ends.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, that's that fine line of that will impact his contract.
But here's what I'll say about Trey Hendrickson. He is
so good because he's a technician in those things that
I don't think his game is dependent upon athleticism, speed
or quickness that would normally impact some people, but for him, no,
it shouldn't be anything that's impactful he's a really good player.

(01:26:00):
He's a talented technician. The money has to kind of
match the age thing. You have to put that in consideration.
But I just saw ky Lil Mack signed a deal
for eighteen million dollars and he's an older player. To me,
there's a way to get it done. You just got
to figure it out. And I think he will figure
it out because he's so good and people certainly understand
the kind of dynamic playmaker that he is. They want

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him somebody, somebody will find a way to pay him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
In twenty twenty four, I led the league with seventeen
and a half sacks. I still can't believe the Bengals
let this guy walk and they wouldn't pay the guy.
I don't get it. I mean, and that defense was
so poorous, it was so bad the last two years.
What do they do instead of paying him? They get
rid of the defensive coordinator who goes to Indianapolis, I
mean Aniromo. I just I don't understand that. I mean,

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there's something wrong though, you think, doesn't it shouldn't happen.
Guy's a great player, you really, I mean, fresh start
for him is the best thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Though, Yeah, yeah, would. I would say he needs a
fresh start because he needs to feel like one he
needs to get paid what he's worth. Two he needs
to feel like he's valued and appreciated. And I can't
say that he has always been valued by the Bengals.
So maybe somebody else will find a way to value

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him and pay him what he needs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
No doubt about that. Okay, let me talk about George Pickens,
who basically is a little bit of a flake anyway,
but he had a great year list year with fourteen
order yards and ninety three catches, nine touchdowns. He's a
free he may be a number one free agent. George Picktens,
the receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
What do you think, Well, he's on a franchise tag,
so that that kind of eliminates some of the stuff
when it comes for him, you know, like he he's
I mean, if you're gonna do it, you've got to
give up significant draft capital in those I don't think
anybody's gonna do that, but really good player deserving of

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being paid. But I think what the Cowboys are doing
their heads in the bet to make sure that the
behavior continues to match up in terms of like just
make sure they can trust that he's going to be
who he's who we expect him to be as a
franchise caliber player.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Yeah, but here's the situation. I gotta believe that George
Picken's right now. He wants to be a number one
and if he stays in Dallas, it's going to be
he and C. D. Lamb, which is a great one
two punch. But I think that people have he goals
and he wants to be the number one receiver on
the team, don't you think.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Uh yeah, no, I think he wants to be paid.
So we can talk about all that other stuff. But
he wants to get paid. And the way that like
he played last year, he's certainly deserving of being paid.
But you have to make sure if you're the Cowboys,
you're gonna have to pay him big money. But when
you pay him big money, what comes with that? You know,

(01:28:48):
is he going to continue to be the same player
that he's been or is he going to change? You know,
Like that's a big part of the thing. So Canny
Canny continue to be the player that they want them
to be and deliver on and off the field.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
You know, I'm looking at free agents and you hit
it right on the head when you say Khalil Mack
the outside linebacker, he's thirty five. He's going to be
thirty five, I think when the season starts. But a
lot of these guys who are free agents right now
are older. And then in the authority, you've got Mike
Evans wide receiver at thirty three, Joey Boses thirty one.

(01:29:26):
So you got these guys that are aging right now.
We mentioned Trey Hendrickson's going to be thirty one when
the season starts. So I think ball clubs right now
is saying, hey, you know what, we're going younger and
going cheaper. That could be the reason as well, not
so much that they lost their skill level, but the
fact of the matter is that these guys are older.
Mike Evans still is a pretty good player, all right.

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I think that someone's going to pick him up and
they could probably get into the year or two out
of this guy. But at thirty three, I don't know,
wide receiver, you're on the downside.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, Like, I'm not gonna spend a whole lot of money.
People want stay go over over thirty you know, like
you don't. You don't want to do that because more
than not you're going to be on the downside. You
just can't. You just can't get it done. So I
would like to make sure that I have a younger player.
If it is an older player, then I got to
make sure that the conversation matches up with the perceived

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time that I think they're going to fall off or decline.
That can be hard sometimes, right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
I'm looking at free agents right now, and on the
free agent list, tell me if I'm mistaken, I only
see three quarterbacks, and that's Daniel Jones, Malik Willis, and
believe it or not, Aaron Rodgers is a free agent.
But I at forty two years of age, I think
that the only place he's going to be playing is
in Pittsburgh if he even plays there, because he's starting
in Gonna. He's going out on social media saying he

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hasn't made a decision yet. I mean, come on, really,
you know you know what you're gonna do. I mean,
you just want people talking about you. But I think
he's going to play for Mike McCarthy. I mean, really,
he'll be back. Don't you think he'll be back? I
think he will.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I don't know, man, he's a different bird. So I
can't he sure. He's hard to figure out when it
comes to it. So, yeah, that's a tough one for me.
I do think he'll come back. It's gonna take some courting.
You're gonna have to quurt him a little bit. You
can have to beg him and plead a little bit
to get him to come. But at some point he'll

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he'll come back and he'll make his he'll make his
triumph return. And I believe it'll be with the Pittsburgh
sill Is because he knows Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
No doubt about that. Daniel Jones, Okay, torn Achilles last December. Uh,
he had the best season going into that, but that
that killed him. Really, he'll be back for sure, Daniel Jones,
what happens there. I think he's the starting quite about
for the Colts, don't you think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Yes, they sign him to the transition tag to make
it easy for them, to make sure they could get
it done. It's just a matter of, you know, getting
the money right. They'll get the money right and figure
out that stuff out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
The money's there, nobody about that. Everybody's getting money right now.
Malik Willis. The rumors out there that he's going to
be the next quarterback of the New York Jets. What
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That wouldn't be great. I wouldn't think that would be
good for him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I don't think of anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that'd be great
for him. But maybe yeah, yeah, I don't. I just
don't think that'd be great. I don't. I think that
would be horrible in.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Fact, anybody really, not just him, for anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Here's a guy I'm talking about, Kyle Pitch. He was
the highest drafted tight end ever, number four pick in
twenty twenty one. But I guess his time is finished
now with the Atlanta Falcons. Kyle pissed. I mean, he
may be out there and we'll see what I mean,
he's I don't know why. I just don't understand what
happened there in Atlanta. I don't know. I think that

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part of the problem was the quarterbacks are situation. They're
changing quarterbacks in Atlanta, do you think.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a part of it, you know,
Like the quarterback change is they just couldn't unlock him,
and I think it's weird right based on who he is,
right as a player, you would just think that, man,
it'd be so easy to get him to rock and
get him the ball. And unfortunately, like you look at
most of his career, he wasn't able to really make

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a huge impact as a playmaker. And that is not
what you used. That's not what you would think of
a talented athlete like him. You would think that he
would create mismatches all over the field, just wasn't able
to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
I'm going to say this, and I think you'll agree
with me. There's a running back as a free agent.
I'm going to say he's the best running back on
the market right now in free agency, Breece Holl who
played for the Jets, best running back in free agency.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Yeah, but he's off the market because of the tag.
They put a franchise tag on him, so you can't
get to It's bad though.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
I mean, he's gotta be dying that he can't get
out of there. Do you think, yeah he can't, Yeah,
he can't, I mean get out. I know the money
is a big deal and people want to go for
the money, but still in all there are certain teams
you just don't want to be involved with, and the
Jets are one of them. You don't want to play
for that team. And he's put up some great numbers
for the Jets. He really is only twenty four years
of age. I mean, he's got to be dying. He's

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probably begging his age and doing something to try to
get out of it. Can't get out of it though,
he's there, right, He's stuck for another year with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
Oh yeah, I mean at a minimum, he's stuck for
another year. Yeah, he can't. He can't get out, like
there's nothing franchise tag, he's done, it's done. Deal. He
can hope to negotiate a long term deal, but nah,
there's nothing he can do. Amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Okay, I'm gonna throw out some teams here, and I'm
gonna suggest, if I'm in charge of whatever of the team,
what that team needs, all right, and you tell me
if you agree. I'm going to start with Jerry Jones
because I kind of like Jerry Jones. All Right, Dallas Cowboys,
I would say, if I'm involved with the Dallas Cowboys,
their major concern now, and if you're a Dallas Cowboys fan,

(01:35:07):
I think you'll agree with me. They need somebody on
DEFENSEY need a pass rusher. They need a couple of linebackers, cornerbacks. Defense.
They got a new defensive coordinator I believe, also in Dallas,
but they need defensive help big time. They may have
had the worst defense in Dallas Cowboys history last year.
They need defensive help more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Correct, Yes, they do need defensive help, and they're changing systems,
and when you change systems, it definitely is going to
require that from a four to three to a three
four to kind of linebackers you need, the kind of
edge defenders you need. All of that is in play.
And even though like most teams spend the base of

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their downs in nickel right, the majority of the downs
are in nickel package or whatever like. You got to
get the right personnel for this new coordinator who's coming
over from a Vic Fangio style system, which is completely
different than what Reluce and others have been running in
Dallas for a long time. It will change their eye
a little bit for the kind of talent that they
go after.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
All Right, this isn't easy. One the Arizona Cardinals, they
need a quarterback. Is Jacoby Brissett going to be the quarterback?
Because they're basically saying Kyler Murray's gone, right, they don't
want him there. He's out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Yeah, they don't want them there, and they're gonna have
to figure that for it out. I would say the
Arizona Cardinals will Melie Willis could be a factor. They're
given the relationship between the head coach and his brother
who is a head coach of the Green Bay Packers,

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Mike Laflour, Matt Lafleur. That connection is gonna help. Also.
Manciansen Forth, the general manager for the Cardinals, was director
personnel for the Sant S Titans when they draft them. Eleak,
so you know, so the familiarity is everything. That'll probably
be the best spot. I would look for them to
try and find their quarterback in Malie Willis.

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
I'm gonna throw a name out there, but you can
promise don't laugh at me. Okay, are you ready? What
about Kirk Cousins. Could Kirk Cousins go to Arizona?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I mean he could. I don't think he would be
first on their list, right, he was okay last year? Okay,
I don't think stretch if you ask what they want, yeah, yeah,
he had a little stretch. He was okay, Okay, okay,
all right, just okay.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Well you don't see it happening, all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Right, No, no, no, no, it could happen, but I think
he wouldn't be number one on their board in terms of, hey,
let's go a whole out of salt on Kirk Cousins.
I think Kirk Cousins would be let's see if we
can find somebody else. But he's a good backup policy.
If we can't get one of those guys, we'll look

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at it. Because Jimmy Garoppolos could have some interest from
the Arizona Cardinals as well, backup quarterback from the Rams.
The new head coach knows them, work with them last year.
That could be a little bit of a deal.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
I tell you what, though, one team that has really
made some moves right now, a lot of movement, and
I think that we're not going to see a lot
of success. And maybe I'm wrong on this. I'm talking
about the Detroit Lions. They lost their center last year
and maybe that should be their number one priority and
the draft is an offensive center, but a lot of
movement there. Running back Montgomery's gone. So what's happening with

(01:38:31):
the Detroit Lions If they're revamping the entire roster.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
It looks like, Yeah, look, I think sometimes when you're
very successful, you have to make some of these changes, right,
You have to make some of these changes in terms
of just saying one step ahead of the curve, and unfortunately,

(01:38:54):
sometimes good people have to go out. They just changed.
It's just changed. But it's a part of the way.
You can't stay the same in the league. They had
an run. You think about it, this has been a
nice forty five year run for the Lions. At some
point you naturally have a turnover. So this is just
their turnover mark. But they're hoping to do is to
be able to turn it over while still being very,
very successful.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
I don't think they're gonna have a lot of success
next year. I really don't know that division's bet. I
think the Bears are better than them. We saw that
this year, and the Bears are just going to be
getting better. Right, The Bears are better than them. Minnesota
had a decent.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Yeah they are. But here's what we also know. There's
no such thing as momentum in the National Football League.
Just because you were good one year doesn't mean that
you're going to carry it over and be good the
next year, we'll see the Bears appear to be trending
the right direction, but their defense relied heavily on turnovers
this past season. Can you confidently say that you can
be able to get the same kind of production when

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it comes to turnovers? No? And if you can't do that,
can you play good enough straight up defense going forward? Man,
that's a lot man banking on a lot of things
to kind of make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Yeah. And a team very similar to the Detroit Lions
that has had success but never really reached to the stars
is the Buffalo Bills. And I gotta believe right now
what they've done with the movements they've made, they need
a wide receiver. They really do big time. They need
a wide receiver. Running game is good, defense pretty good,
but they need a wide receiver that could really help

(01:40:21):
out on the offense.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Yeah. I mean, like, you gotta have wide receiver. You
gotta have a number one. You gotta have someone that
can really impact the game. And if you don't get that,
it makes it hard. You have to have the players
and the personnel to be able to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
One less, say what about your Jacksonville team, I'm gonna
I'm gonna tell you what you need, okay, and you
tell me if your group, but that's your team, that's
your baby. So I think that as far as Jacksonville's concern,
they need to kind of boost up the secondary. They
need somebody in the secondary. That's I'm thinking, what do
you think? And obviously Travis Hunt is coming back, that's

(01:41:02):
gonna help, all right, So we'll see what happens there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Yeah, no, they got to boost it up. You gotta
find somewhere to do it. Travis Hunter coming back certainly
will help him.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Though, all right. Other than that, anybody else on your mind,
I'm trying to think one team that could really well. Obviously,
the Bengals need a pass rush. Cleveland Browns. What's the
quarterback situation in Cleveland? Of course, I think offensively that
got some problems's playing quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
And c Yeah, you should do a standards of de
Shaun Watson, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
And he did a contract renew you know, so obviously
they're looking to see him play next year. So we'll
see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm sorry, won't see what happened, I hope.
So he's Bucky Brooks at May Firman with Fox Sports
Sydney and Fox Sports Radio. We're a lot for the
Fox Sports Radio studios, and of course you can get
Bucky at Bucky Brooks on exit Andy Furman FSR eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eighty seven seven nine
ninety six sixty three sixty nine. And one team is

(01:42:06):
desperate to sell anything. That's next? All right, is this
a celebration? Well, we'll get to that in just about
a minute. Here is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy fermana we
of Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, and we're
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We have the
Blame game coming up in about ten minutes from now.
But right now we've got something really big. This is good.

(01:42:28):
We kind of saved the best for last buck. We
really do. Because we talk about the NBA and the
NBA's Atlanta Hawks are going to celebrate Atlanta's cultural iconic institution,
Magic City, before and during Monday, March sixteenth, their home
game against the Orlando Magic. Okay, Magic City. Okay, Magic

(01:42:50):
City is a strip club in Atlanta. Not ass has
anybody in this little room here been there?

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Litt Dumper. You've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
I've been there.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
I know Rob Barker has been there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
I think, what is it like? I've never been there.
I want to go?

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
What is it like? So it's an institution, right. So
one you have to understand culturally about Atlanta. Uh, strip
club life is very very popular there. It's kind of
like the place where everyone ends up. Uh. The food
in those places, like everyone scoffs at like, oh, it's
like really good food. District club but like there, that's

(01:43:30):
what they're known for. And so the chicken wings. Lou
Williams got in trouble during COVID because he came out
the bubble and ended up stopping at Magic for Limon
Pepper wings. Right, so they're now called Limon Pepper lu
That's what what they call them. But it is an establishment,
it is. It is kind of like a thing. It

(01:43:50):
has always kind of been a vibe and everyone kind
of ends up there, they do their thing there whatever.
So yeah, it's uh, it's it's different. It's different, but
I think if you're in Atlanta, you kind of have
to experience.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Okay, how did it become so popular? Because that's all
I hear about, is this place Magic City, and it's
like one of the biggest strip clubs, I guess, and
I hate to use the term of strip club an
exotic dancing club. Can we call it that exotic dancing
I don't know. But how did it get so pop?
Do the athletes make it that way? When the teams
come to Atlanta, they will go there?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Yes, yes, huh, it's very much. It's very much despot.
Everyone kind of knows what it is. Everyone ends up there.
It is very much that kind of place. And I
wish I could just say, like man, people just love
it and that was it. But people do love it,

(01:44:45):
you really what?

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
There are lines to get in there? Yes, yes, okay,
So my next question is this. I mean, I thought
there might be some pushback from NBA owners or the commissioner,
Adam Still, or media or women's groups, whatever may be
for the Atlanta Hawks to have a promotion like this.

(01:45:07):
Of course, you want to maybe protect the esteem and
esteem of women who work every day and you know,
just the wife's sisters, mothers, to take care of women. Okay,
not to degrade them. But we haven't seen that. Adam
Silver hasn't said boo Atlanta Hawks, did it? I'm sure
they had a clear it in their front office. So

(01:45:29):
I guess this is a pretty good deal and you
have no problem with it. I guess right, I mean
I don't, but you don't have a problem with it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Now, I'm anyone who knows the culture down there, like
if you're from Atlanta or whatever, like or near Atlanta,
you kind of understand what it is. So yeah, you
won't have an issue with that because it's a big
part of the culture, a huge part of the culture.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55):
Little dumper, do you have a problem with this promotion?
I'm probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
I'm sure I do not have any problem with that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
Yeah, I didn't think.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
I can't tell you what it's done for me. I
can't wait to go there. I can't wait to go.
I really want to glean.

Speaker 3 (01:46:08):
What's not the love there there?

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Also, the lemon pepper wings is what I'm here, are
pretty good too.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Right, Yeah, like I would think, Yeah, I wouldn't think
that he would have an issue with it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Are you surprised that a woman's group or the commissioner
has not said anything yet about this?

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
No, just because if you know the city, it would
never be that big of a deal. If you know
the city. It would be like, Okay, cool, I can
see that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Interesting because there's one player in the National Basketball Association
who plays for San Antonio for the Spurs, Luke Cornette.
He wrote like a blazing editorial about have you heard
about that?

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Yeah, I mean I'm amazed, I really am. Regardless of
how of how a woman finds her way onto the
adult entertainment industry, many in this space experience abuse, harassment,
and violence. I like to encourage the league, the league's owners, employees,
and fans to hold the Atlanta Hawks to a higher
standard of what they find worthy of promoting. Well, women

(01:47:12):
can get abused without going to a club like this,
they're gonna be I hate to say it. They gotta
abuse every single day.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
Having a promotion about from a strip club has nothing
to do with women being abused, And no one's making
them work at this place. And I'm sure they get
paid rather handsomely at this place, too, right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I mean, look, I can't necessarily speak to that part
of it, because that certainly is the thing, and it's
the thing where we talk about when trafficking and those
things are rampant and we're on hire alert for those things,
you do want to be careful about the exploitation and that.
And so it's that fine line that the League and
Atlanta Hawks have to walk in terms of honoring an

(01:47:53):
institution that is near and dear to the heart of Atlanta,
while also being mindful and respectful of women not only
in the city but around the country and the world
in terms of how you're projecting what you're promoting in
those things.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
You know, I'm impressed that you're using the word institution
because that's what basically the Atlanta Hawks said that it
is an institution magic.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
I would say, like in a weird way, it has
to be something that is like the city. If you
go to the city, you have to like experience it
because that's how tied it is to the fabric of
the city. Maybe in LA people will talking about Pink's
hot Dogs because I can't think of a similar strip
club or anything like that that would be a big

(01:48:43):
part of LA culture. But let's just say, like Abram comes,
the Pink's hot Dogs, Randy's Donuts that are right there
near the airport. There's certain things that when you step
into a city, because it's so talked about, you at
least have to experience it to be like, oh, okay,
either I get it or I don't get why they
rave about it. But this is something that is interwoven

(01:49:05):
within the fabric of the city. That's how Magic City
is to Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
I'm amazed because they do call it the city's iconic
cultural institution. Now, look, you travel, you travel as a ballplayer.
All your traveler is a scout. Could you mention a
couple of other cultural institutions in various cities, because I can't.
I you know, I live on the outskirts of Cincinnati
and Ohio. I don't know a cultural institution in Cincinnati.

(01:49:31):
I really don't. I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
I would say, I would say unlike. So it's different,
right because in Atlanta we're tiny it too, like in
a strip club, whereas in New Orleans people that talk
about Cafe Dumont, Right, you go to Okay, New Orleans,
like you got to go there, like that's part of Mother's.
Mother's is a breakfast spot there. There's certain places that
people say, when you go here, you have got to

(01:49:57):
try X, Y, and Z. And that's one of the
many institutions that are in Atlanta. But Magic City is
definitely always included on that list because of his popularity
and his popularity over decades. Like that's what it has
to be. It has to be something that is established
and has been there for so long that this is

(01:50:17):
a part of who we are. And I think that's
why the Hawks felt compelled to celebrate it and honor it,
and then the attention that it's gotten probably makes them
want to double down on it because they know how
much attention they will received and they have it on
that day.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
I'm pretty sure it's going to be a big night
next Monday night, and I hope that game is on
TV so I can see what's going on. Because this
Louke Cornett is really adamant about them trying to cancel
this and say the league should cancel the deal. He says,
I'd like to encourage the league of its owners and
the employees to hold the Atlanta Hawks to a higher standard.
He probably doesn't know, I guess, he says, I and

(01:50:53):
others throughout the league were surprised by an object to
the Hawks decision. Well, I don't see if anybody else
in the league who wants to see this objective objection
besides him. No, No, there's nothing. I haven't even seen
anything in the media about this, which so it must
be what you say, it's truly an iconic good situation

(01:51:14):
the institution. It must be, because normally you'd see someone
write about it, talk about nothing. After a word, the
Hawks announced it. It's gonna happen, and it's gonna it's
not gonna be canceled. And the commission didn't say boom.
Commission has not said a word about this. You would
think that they would look and Cornett continues to say,

(01:51:34):
we desired to provide an environment where fans of all
ages can come safely and enjoy the game of basketball,
and we could celebrate the history and culture of communities
and good conscience. I mean, I don't. I hate to
say it's in bad taste, but again, it's a business,
and it's a it's an iconic business in the city
of Atlanta. They're just gonna honor it. That's what it is.

(01:51:56):
It just happens to have. I hate to use the
term strippers may calm, showgirls, show girls will be I
don't know, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
They just have dancers, dancers who were scantily clad. How
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:10):
Yeah, there you go. I mean, is that? And then
he ends his He ends his editorial by saying, please
join me in petitioning the Atlanta Hawks to cancel this
promotion so as to ensure that the NBA remains a safe, respectful,
and welcoming environment for everyone involved. You know, look, you're

(01:52:31):
taking it to the next level. You're taking just a
little too seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
You really, I mean, I don't know if he's taking
it too serious. He just he believes in what he
believes in, and maybe he.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Just doesn't know you don't be funny. I would love
to see this. I'd love to see tm Z the
night of this deal or when the San Antonio Spurs
come to Atlanta. I'd like to see Luke in the city.
I like to see him in Magic City, to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Him there, see him going there and advocate. You see
if he can.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Say yes, hell, yes, yes, and his picture in there.
I mean, look something just I just thought this was
an interesting story because he is the only one to
stick his head above water and really complain about this.
And you know, really I applaud the Atlanta Hawks for

(01:53:26):
I hate to use the term maybe being brave, mean,
but just stand alone. I mean, I don't think any
other team has done anything like this. But again, as
you say, there's nothing like this in any other city.
This is a true institution in the city of Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Yeah it is. And yeah, there's nothing quite like nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
Okay, now you got me.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
No, no, no, not even like there's nothing quite nothing.
It's hard because if you haven't been there or whatever, like,
there's nothing quite like it. Like it's it's a unique
spot to Atlanta. And I would think Atlanta culture certainly
has an appreciation for Magic City unlike any other. That's
why the hawkswell compill to honor it because knowing their city,

(01:54:13):
knowing their people, their natives, they know that they'll come
out to represent them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Okay, just a few words now before we get rolling
over here. Now you got you're winning my appetite. Is
there a mission cover charge? And if there is, is
there a show or you just go there and watch
women on the state. Tell me what it's like, fill
me in, Take me in to open the door, let
me walk in. Tell me what it's like, Bucket Brooks.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Gods, it's been so long way back. Like if you
were an athlete or player or whatever, they were these
things that you could show to get in on a
complimentary entrance fee. I don't know if that's still the
case there or whatever. Wow when you get in there, like,
I mean, look, it's show girls everywhere, but they're also
they have a nice menu. They have a menu where
you can watch girls, eat, wings, do some things, games

(01:55:00):
and stuff. In the background music music, I mean there's music,
but there's no band, I would say, thinking of being
in a man cave with all of the things that
most men would enjoy that women stage, women are on

(01:55:23):
a stage, stage walking around everywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's
it's it's all of the things that those who have
participated or attended in show girl clubs. It's it's all
of that and more.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Okay, does where does Jacksonville play Atlanta is?

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Yeah, I don't know. But even then, I haven't been there.
I mean I haven't been there. I want to do that,
and we can't. Andy, we can't. We can't take you there.
I can't get conscious like we can talk about I
can't take you there. You and little dump Brak, I
can't let yours go there. There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
All right, we'll talk about that some other time. He's
Bucket Brooks and maybe he firm. We're live for the
Fox Bets Radio studios. But right now it's time to
let it all out. The blame game is freaking next.
All right, the blame game coming right out. That'll be
in about ten minutes. Ten minutes from now, will be
nine am on the East coast. Yes, we moved the clock.
We sprung ahead. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We're

(01:56:24):
live from the Fox West Radio studios at at the
top of the hour at nine am Countdown with Brian no,
Jeff Schwartz, and Bill Kracklenberger. But right now it's time
for the playing game.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
You ruin me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
It's all your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:56:38):
It's your fault. This is all your fault.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Maybe it's everyone's.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
Faults, see the liar. That's why there's the blame game,
the blame game.

Speaker 6 (01:56:50):
Let's figure out.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Who to play the playing game. Little dup will blame you.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Are you ready? All right, we'll put the blame on me, Andy, Yeah,
wellam and you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
We thought we could get away from after last segment,
but no, we're bringing it back one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
Here, guys, bringing it back.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
I can't wait to go there. You're right.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
The Atlanta Hawks will be staging Magic City Night on
the sixteenth, celebrating the Atlanta Strip Club, which we were
talking about last second.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
Guys, who do you blame for this mess?

Speaker 6 (01:57:17):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Andy, it's not a mess, it's beautiful. I praised the
Atlanta Hawks. I praise them. I tell you what, They're
honoring an iconic structure of business in Atlanta. They should
be praised for that. And I tell you what. The
commissioner should go on record. He should be there that night.
He should be Maybe they should play the game in
Magic City. Move the game to there. Is it big

(01:57:38):
enough fuck to have an arena there? Could they put
about basketball caught down there? That's what they should do.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Look, man, I blame outside as not understanding what Majesty
means to Atlanta, and by and large, if they understood
what Madis City meant to Atlanta, they would understand why
the Hawks are paying homage to it. I would say
it's a naivete of the outsiders that are to blame.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Yes, I can't wait. I want to go in it
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Well, you know, Bucky, you don't have to answer that.
Let's move on show.

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
I got get better right there. Maybe we could do
our show there. Well, maybe they let's do our show
live there, just to see what it's like. You put
discovery purposes, you know what I mean, investigative reporting. Cut it,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Well, you know what, let's move on to this one here, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
So Miami, let's not after geez.

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
All right, guys, So taking is a problem in the NBA.
Who do you blame though, Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:58:44):
Look, I blame the way that they've said this thing
up from the jump, having a lottery in which the
worst team gets the most ping pong balls, setting them
up to porchestrate quick turnarounds. I blame in NBA like
they created this a long time ago. They're different that
they could have handled this. But here's where we are.
People are tanking. They're losing deliberately and intensively, and I

(01:59:06):
blame believed they should have set up a better system
for creating the order of the draft as opposed to
this wacky system that they have.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Now, you make a great point, Bucket Brooks. They should
do the draft just like they do in the NFL.
Forget the pink punk bulls. That's the stupidest thing in
the world. But you talk about tanking if you've got
a team right now, it's like Oklahoma City that basically
is cruising and they're definitely gonna be in the playoffs.
What's the difference for them not to play their starters
or a team that's losing not playing their staughters to

(01:59:34):
get a pastick. If I'm Oklahoma City, I'm gonna rest
my staraters. I don't want them hurt for the playoffs.
So it's the same thing, right, It's the same situation.
That's just the way the system is.

Speaker 4 (01:59:44):
Sorry, well speaking, you say system, well, I got a
success system for the NFL. So part of the NFL success, guys,
is quite simply less is more? So, who do you
blame for the increase in games from seventeen to now?
See to be eighteen?

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Who do you play? Mandy?

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Anytime you have a question about anything in sports, you
need to do trace it back to the money, to
the move out of the green cabbage, to the guilt.
It's all about money, more games, more money, TV money,
whatever it may be. And you gotta have an even
number of games anyway, So eighteen is not gonna be good.
But what are you gonna do? More injuries?

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
Probably more money, So I name ownership, more money, They
know that if they add another game, that'll add more
commons and zeros to the check. When it comes to
the new TV deals, ownership is greed. It's a way
to maximize the money and for the players they always benefit.
When more moneys in the pot, salary cap goes up
means better salaries.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
All right, we did a great job today, Little Dumper
is perfect having you here, Bucky. You have a great week.
I'll see you in the city in magic City, Magic
City next week. Right here, a Fox

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