Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks recap Penn State’s HUGE loss, how valuable Mac Jones is, & MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:04):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 (00:04):
One coach found his kryptonite. Yes he did, that's coming
right up. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday.
He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Ay Frown And by the way,
we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. In
a way we go, yes, and here he is my partner,
my friend, demand who knows more football than anybody in
God's Green Earth.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Mister Bucky Brooks. Hello, Bucky, how are you?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I'm doing great, Andy, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Everything is great.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Speaking of Bucky Brooks, we have this ass Bucky segment
at the end of this hour. Brianna, can you explain
it to us what we gotta do because I'm a
little confused and you're kind of smart.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
I'm kind of smart. I'm not Jomart. I'm just a
little bit smart, Okay, just a little, just a little bit.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 5 (00:45):
So go ahead and tweet any questions that you might
have for Bucky at Fox Sports Radio, or at you
guys at Andy Furman, or at me at Bregonise twenty six,
any kind of questions you might have, and if they're
really good, well, we'll ask Bucky for you.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
That comes, okay, Bucky, I want to talk a little
bit about college football yesterday, because you know when you
looked at the schedule and say, well, it's a whole
home schedule, kind of nothing really meaty on there, and
then all of a sudden we get some bombshells.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
One of them was Penn State. I want to talk
about the coach there, James Franklin. Four and twenty one
against ranked opponents. Now he's got another kryptonite on his hands.
He lost to an unranked team yesterday, UCLA forty two
thirty seven. He gave up four hundred yards and the Nittleyllions.
They were twenty four point favorites. First loss by they
were ranked seven. First loss by an AP top ten

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squad to a winless team or at least an own
four team. Since get this, nineteen eighty five, nineteen eighty five,
How in the hell does this happen? How could that happen?
James Franklin right now must be roasted and toasted. I
would have loved to have been a fly on the
wall on the plane ride back from California to State College.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
Look, man, there's no way to talk about it. I mean,
no way to excuse it. You're a top ten team.
You can't lose to a win list football team. And
coming off to the heels of a very emotional loss
to Oregon, you knew that your team would come out flat.
That's just a natural tendency. You play an emotionally charge
game one week to next week. You kind of got
to grind through it. But at no way can you

(02:18):
go to UCLA and let them jump out on you
twenty eight to seven and let them eventually knock you
off when you don't play well. I mean, that's unacceptable.
We can talk about players, but that's coaching and unfortunate.
Like I've been to James Franklin defender, I can't defend
this one. You can't lose to UCLA on the road.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I with you idea, by the way, you can't defend
What does he have to say, Hey, coach, James frank
what do you got to stay to yourself?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Let me hear the.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Coaches, the players in the locker room, offense, defense, and
special teams. The reality is we didn't play well enough
in all.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Three phases to win the game.

Speaker 8 (02:52):
And there's gonna be a lot out there to divide, divide, divide,
and we got to tune all that out and stick together.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
You stick together. I tell you what, no one's gonna
be sticking together with you right now. I tell you
why you could be fried and really chilled, chill it.
You should have stayed in LA. You shouldn't have gone
back to state college. Really, you know, not only did
you lose to UCLA. This UCLA team A never won
a game this year until yesterday, and they lost this
year to New Mexico un l V in Northwestern Northwestern.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I believe me, Bucky.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
I think I could have made one of those rosters
New Mexico un l V or Northwall. I could have
played for one of those teams. Really, I could have.
I just didn't go out. I was too busy typing letters.
That's my problem when I was in college. But I
could have played for one of those teams. It's ugly,
it was disgusting, and I feel bad for the guy.
I think James Franklin never met him. He looks like
a nice man, a gentleman, really a class guy. But really,

(03:46):
you couldn't lose to these guys. You just can't do it.
There's no way.

Speaker 7 (03:51):
No, I look, man, it's unacceptable. I'll just say this
usle was winless. They tried it out a new play
called Jerry new Heisel, former ucl coach and legend at UCLA.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Rick Newheizel's sun and.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
Jerry newhi did a great job of really unlocking the offense.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Europenn State, your team that is loaded with NFL prospects,
your team that is supposed to knock off a halfless
or winless UCLA team on the want road, and you
don't do that, so you open yourself up to the
criticism not only James Franklin, but the quarterback and some
of the other the primary playmakers that are involved in
the program.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
You know, it amazes me because prior to this season,
everybody was saying there's a good chance Penn.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
State could be national champs.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
No.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
I thought that maybe in the running. I don't think
they've bea at Ohio State. But right now, after losing
to UCLA, they still have to play number one Ohio
State just love to play number eight Indiana, and I
got to believe right now those games will probably lose,
right So I think right now it's a lost season.
You know, The good news for college football is that
it's very exciting, it's very meaningful, and every game means
a lot. The bad news for college football if you're

(04:57):
a fan of a team and you lose two to
three game, it's all over. You got away for next year.
That's just the way it is. At least in the NFL,
you could lose five, six, seven, maybe even eight games,
get into the playoffs and have a new life. Doesn't
happen in college.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
Well, actually, I still think there's time. I mean, you're
ready to kind of write a death sentence. I'm not
saying that they lost to a top ranked Oregon team
and then they have this bad loss from UCLA for
them to make it though.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
This is it.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
They can't lose anymore and still think that they can
get into the twelve team playoff. The great thing about
Penn State they control their own destiny in terms of
who they play. You say, they have Indiana on tap
and they have Ohio State. Yep, yeah, I mean like
they control it. So what he has to do is
he has to get them ready to eventually play Indiana
and Ohio State, and even though the records go against him,

(05:47):
what he has to lean into is Hey, guys, look,
we've messed it up, but we've done this before. No
different than how Notre Dame had to bounce back last
year from losing the Northern Illinois. There's a precedent there,
but he has to make sure that he take these losses,
turns them into painful lessons and they come out a
better team on the other side of it.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
All right, Now here's something And I don't meet to
bring this up because it's going to be personal to you,
but it's personal to me, all right, North Carolina. I
mean every week there's another problem with this situation over there.
And yesterday they'd only lost, they got drilled and I
watched part of that game and then by halftime there
was nobody in the stands.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Thirty eight ten lost to Clemson. I mean it was ugly,
all right.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And it was the first time Clemson scored more than
twenty seven points in any game this year. They had
Troy on the schedule and they couldn't put up twenty seven.
They put up twenty seven. Yesterday they put up to
thirty eight, twenty eight points after the first quarter and
there was no game.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It was over.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
It was the third straight loss by twenty five points
against the Power Conference school. And I'm going to tell
you right now till my dying day, I'll defend Bill Belichick.
He's a friend, I love him to death, and I
will say this, he's the greatest coach of all time.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I don't know what's going on in North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't know if the players obviously that good, but
I don't know what happened over there. And I'm sure
they're roasting and toasting him today too in Chapel Hill.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
So I'm gonna say this, like I've told all my
former teammates and my friends, what did you guys expect
him to come and do?

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do we expect him to come and be twelve and
one right out the gate?

Speaker 7 (07:17):
I just don't understand, Like some of this to me
is like the carryover, Like because he was so great
as an NFL coach, everyone.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now wants to roast him about this situation. Whatever.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
Whenever someone takes over a new program, there's gonna be
a step back before there's a step forward. It is
rare that anyone jumps in and goes right right. The
only person I can think about doing something similar to
going and have a success immediate success is urban Marire
when he went to Ohio State. Right, North Carolina is
not that. They're not that good. The players aren't that good.

(07:48):
He's struggling as a coach, so everyone who wants to
roast him can roast them. But they're not that good.
And I think whatever expectations people had were outside because
they were unrealistic based on what the state of the
program was and what he was going to do in
this first season.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
So it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, you know, I'm with you right there.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I think that people the expectations are crazy, and that's
why they're fans, the fanatics. They're crazy. People are crazy
and they expect everything. I think as soon as the
hire was made, they thought North Carolina's could be a
national champion. It doesn't easy, right, it doesn't work that.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
I don't really think it was that. I don't think
it was that. I think no one necessarily expected that.
It gave them an opportunity to talk about it, not
only because of how he was.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
As a coach, but really the main thing is the girlfriend.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
People are creeped out by the girlfriend fiance, and that's
made it the biggest story. If it wasn't that it
wouldn't be what it is. So it's all of those things.
It's a perfect storm when it comes to pop, pop culture,
football and all this other stuff. And so it's a
chance for everyone to dump on him for all of
the things that people have always wanted to dump on

(08:54):
him for since he became a legendary coach.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I won't let that happen on this show.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
They're not dumping on built here because he's too good
and i'll say it again, greatest coach of all time.
But you're right, they're dumping on him because the stories
I'm reading early this morning when the game was over, well,
last week they had a bye week, so he and
the girl and went up to Rhode Island to one
of his homes.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
So what, so what?

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Who cares? Okay, but that's what they write about. You're right,
the social aspect, not the coaching. Stay between the lines,
all right. They're not that good. They're not that good.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
All right.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
It happens, And you're right, he's not a magician. He
can't turn you know, garbage into diamonds. He just can't
do it. It's not gonna happen. And they may have a
problem next year too. But I'm sure there's a group
of people right now that probably even want them out.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
I'm sure of it. And also the.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Story came out that he wants to have a successor
when he does leave, he wants to give it to
his son Steven. That ain't gonna happen. They didn't want
the Belichick name around Chapel Hill anymore. I'm sure they don't.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
I mean, it's like we're five games into his tenure.
We don't even know. So all of it is just speculation.
It's just fodder. It's fader to to talk about clicks
and hot takes and those things. Whatever it is. He's
seventy three, he's not gonna be there forever. Someone is
gonna have to take it over. If if he wants

(10:10):
to put a head coach in waiting for Belichick, for
Steve Belichick, his son who's the defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So be it. They don't have to honor that.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Like when Mac Brown was at Texas, Will Muschamp was
the coach in waiting, Will much Champ never became the
coach in Texas. So all that stuff is just conversation pieces.
It's fine, It'll be what it'll be. We'll see what
it looks like at the end of the year, right.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
I hear what you saying.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
And look, speaking of Bill Belichick, there's another guy who's
gonna get a lot of heat also, and that's that's
our good friend Deon Sanders. Okay, Colorado loses to TCU.
The score is tied at twenty one. They lose thirty
five to twenty one. Fourth quarter, TCU turned it on
and again, I mean they're gonna They're just gonna kill Dion.
I mean really, and I feel bad for Shador. And look,
so part of the Shadua problem is Shador.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
You know, sometimes you got to like stay in your lane,
know your role in your mouth shut sometimes you really do.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But the problem is that doesn't work.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
That doesn't work because when you keep your mouth shut,
you get criticized for keeping.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Your mouth shut, so you can't talk, you can't say anything.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
So that's not that. It's the name and the not
no doubt. Back to what you're saying about Dion.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Well, with the Deon Sanders situation right now, the stories
are reading.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know, the Deon situation is not working. You know,
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I mean, what do they expect from that Colorado. What
he has done to me is amazing. Okay, he sold
out the joint that they're wearing Colorado garb all over
the place, and they're on TV. What was the last
time Colorado was on TV? They're on TV almost every
single week. So they're two and four right now and
on three in the conference. Big whoopee?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do all right?

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Kids still want to play for Dion, and I still
think he could turn it around.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I do.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Look, I don't think it's as bad as whatever it
was twenty one twenty one. That same TCU team that
you're talking about is the same TCU team that blasted
Carolina and the season opener, he had them dead the rights,
they had a punt return misque that gifted TCU a
go ahead touchdown, and then the last one they put
one on the board with less than a minute left

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to make the score look like it look. If I
am Dion, I'm not discouraged. I go back and I teach,
and I know that I can't turn the ball over
three times at the quarterback position with three interceptions, and
we can't make silly mistakes in the kicking game that'll
cost you games every time. For those who are criticizing him,
saying it's not working. I don't know, man, I think

(12:32):
when you lose two top NFL players and shder Sanders
and Travis Hunter, there's gonna be a bit of a
dip and a return. They've been close, They've been in
these games, they haven't been able to finish them. Some
of this is a maturation process for the next generation
of Colorado players. But I think Dian is very open
and honest about his assessment of the team and the

(12:53):
areas that need to get better.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
They just have to improve.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Add a dandem tene because I want to bring Shador
into the picture over here. You know, when the Cleveland
Browns announced that Dylan Gabriel is going to be their
quarterback this week, what did the media do. They didn't
talk to Dylan Gabriel, you know, they talked to the
coach and then they ran over the should door because
they said, well, you know, maybe you should do or
should have got the juid. Let's get his reaction. You
know who I blame on that and should do? It
was kind of little cocky, you know. I mean, you know,

(13:17):
he gave the the the quiet take all right, and
look I get it. He's a kid, and I understand that.
But who I blame on that? The PR guy? All right,
no one, the guy, the PR guy should have got
hey should do or they're probably gotta come over to you.
You're probably bested off either saying something positive upbe wishing
him well even though you may not mean it, you.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Know, but say it so you look good. But the
PR guy did nothing. All right.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Look, I know I served as a PR guy with teams,
and I've talked to athletes. I've done that, and you played,
and I'm sure the PR guy has never done that.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
They just don't do that.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
What they do is they sit behind the computer and
they feed out statistics. That's what they do, all right.
I think you got to be more than that. I
think you got to be a guy that could can
control the media to some extent. You have to be
able to control it. And in Cleveland, he didn't control it.
And that's how Shador got hurt. And that's why she do.
It's got this bad rap right now, and it's wrong.
Maybe I'm wrong on this book. You could tell me

(14:12):
you've been in clubhouses and you've seen PR guys in action.
Some of these players don't even know who the PR
guy is. Right, It's true. He doesn't even get down
there to the lockero to talk to the guys.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
I used to do that, So let's be honest about
dot shoot a thing. Shuder has a Q rating where
anytime you mentioned him, talk about him or whatever, it draws.
His preseason games on the NFL Network were the highest
rated preseason games of any preseason game this year.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Anytime you talk about him, there's a bus.

Speaker 7 (14:45):
So, no matter what the situation is with Dylan Gabriel,
people want to put a microphone in his face because
of what it generates clicks, It generates interest in intrigue
because people either love him or hate him. So in
doing it, reports of not being they're being disingenuous because
they don't really care because regardless of how he responds,

(15:06):
it elicits a reaction that you can talk about. For instance,
the week before he talked about being confident enough that
I know that I.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Can start in the league. What does Rex Ryan do.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
He lights him up on Sunday Countdown for having too
much confidence in doing this.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, I won't anything.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
Right, but he does. But then it's like, Okay, we
don't want him to talk. So now I wouldn't have
advised Sure do it to do the pantomime thing, but
I would have been like, hey, man, just don't say anything,
no comment, walk away, say you're not feeling questions whatever
that is.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
So he pantomimes, which is immature.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
But what it does is it gives the other faction sometimes.
Oh see he's making light of the situation. What is
he doing.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's immature.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
Really, sure Doer Sanders is in a no win situation
until he's actually able to play, and the Brown would
do him a favor by really not making him available
to the media.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
That's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's nothing that comes out of it, right, got.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You to say the best that you stand in the shower.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
But not only not only that, it should be an
organizational thing from the top down. Don't make the third
quarterback available. We know what this is. Anyone would common
sense knows what these things are. Because it is Shadur Sanders,
They're going to make whatever he says controversial. People are
going to analyze his words. Does that mean that he

(16:34):
doesn't like Dylan Gabriel And at no point did he
say anything negative about Dylan Gabriel. That's not the thing,
but because of the story and because of the clicks
that it will go on if we put anything to
his name is problematic.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
They shouldn't make him available to talk.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
And what was the last time you saw a third
string quarterback get attention?

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Ever, they don't. They never do, really.

Speaker 7 (16:58):
Never, And this is why no one wanted to deal
with him if they weren't going to take him into
early rounds because of all of this, they came with it.
It is very similar, no different than Tim Tebow, no
different than some of the other guys who've been jettison
out the league because there were such a media story

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that it looked created a distraction in the locker room.
That's what the plight is. Show Der Sanders is going
to be and it's going to be that because he's
such a polarizing figure and such a media darling when
it comes to clicks and what he generates.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
And Achman is henna be the same way Archman is
when he gets to the NFL. You know they lose.

Speaker 7 (17:38):
No, no, he won't because we would treat arch Manning
with kid gloves, just like we're treating him with kid
gloves now. Archie Manning, arch Man has not been very good.
He's not been He's the most hyped player that we've
ever discussed to be the player that he.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Is right now, he's not very good.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
If not for the name on his back, we wouldn't
have celeb them like we celebrated him, and he wouldn't
continue to be the starter and all this other stuff.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
And the teama isn't good the preseason number one. They
lost yesterday to Florida twenty nine to twenty one. They're
not good. The team isn't good. They're not good in
the trenches. And he's not good.

Speaker 7 (18:14):
Yeah, he hasn't been great. The team hasn't played well.
They haven't played up the expectation. But let's be honest.
We were talking about this guy being the number one
overall pick in the draft. He's been far from it.
But you know who else has been far from it?
All of those other quarterbacks that we fighted. And so
we are to blame for some of this stuff because
what announces say in game to draw attention to the game,

(18:38):
it becomes sorry, people take it as fact.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
And what is happening.

Speaker 7 (18:43):
We have all these outside expectations on these players and
they never can live up to him and arch Manning
is one of those who cannot perform up to the
expectations that we put on him.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
And also I got to give some kudos out to Cincinnati,
University of Cincinnati Beast number fourteen. I was stayed at
home close game thirty eight thirty interesting game. Cincinnati really
and truly ran the ball hard. They look pretty good.
Maybe the home the home team had something to do
with it. They were like one and a half point
favorites anyway, which I was shocked to see that. But

(19:14):
Iowa State comes in there five and zero and they
lose the ballgame. Cincinnati, right now, they could be the
breakout team of the year. I don't know, I'm just
saying that. Who knows, But you know, no one thought
that Cincinnati could beat Iowa State. I didn't think they
got And honestly, I'll be quite honest, I'm in the
area here and i'm since I'm a local guy that
roots for the local teams. But Matt Campbell's a friend,

(19:35):
all right, and I remember when he coached at Toledo,
so I was kind of pulling for Matt and I
just felt bad that he lost.

Speaker 7 (19:42):
Well, yeah, I mean Look, there are people that were
on Scott's Sattafield's the head coach of Cincinnati. People on him,
they're ready to run him out of town. Right, that's
the current state of college football. Like Scott Sattafield has
been a good coach everywhere he's been. He was really
good at app State before he got to Louisville and
from Louisville to Cincinnati, and he's in a all the
job there now. He hasn't necessarily kept him to the

(20:03):
standard that they had with Luke Fikel, who probably regrets
leaving Cincinnati for Wisconsin, but that's another story.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
In Wisconsin, they're good.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, So I mean like great win for the Bearcats.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
No doubt about that. All right.

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All right, Fish team should be a perfect four and off. Yes,
it really should be. That's right around the corner. He's
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Speaker 3 (22:17):
Always pop up at the top of your screen. All right, Buck,
We got a call.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Josh and New York is calling in on Fox Football Sunday.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Wants to talk to you. Josh. How are you What
part of New York are you calling from?

Speaker 8 (22:29):
I'm calling from Westchester County, just north of New York City.
I'll be back, thank you, thank you very much. All right,
all right, listen New York sports fans. I mean, let's
face look what they do with the Ryder Cup. They
turned it into like animal house out there. I mean,
leave Brory alone, but here they are now they're getting

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all over judge bases, lowers. Listen. I know baseball, I
know it real good. They're pitching around this guy to
give him nothing to hit. But the thing is the
bone had played with Jack getting double first base. You're
a runner on first base and there's a low line
drive where the first base and the second baseman is.
You don't take off, you're gonna hit the brakes, so
you're gotta see where that ball is going. Then you

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take off into going back to the base, so you're
gonna go flying over the second base. That's the bone
Head played where Ryan McMahon was down and hit that
line drive. And people get on Yankees the case and everything,
and should they you know, with the wild cards, is
it better not to be listen if you if you
get the buyer in the wild card, If the division series,

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your number one starter is going in that division series,
I think you have an advantage there. These guys are
going to forget how to play baseball. If the one
hundred and sixty two games. Let's face it, timing is
part of baseball. We know it's a big thing.

Speaker 10 (23:43):
You could lose your timing, but these guys are not
going to get lose their time, and they're gonna be
ready hit a home run in ninety at bats or
something and bang zoom in the first inning.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
The bottom line with the Giant.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
You gotta come up for air, Josh, you got to
come up with This is school. They would call us
a run on sentence. Really, you gotta come up for
air a little bit, really, And you know what, we
got to kind of cut your shoe up because Bucky
and I have a lot of football to talk about.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
But I will tell you this, but I'll leave you
with this.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I know you bleed the Yankees and you want to
see him win, and I wouldn't want seeing them when
either from New York. But I gotta tell you I
think Toronto's a better team Toronto, and they proved that
during the one hundred and sixty two game season. Toronto's
a better team. They beat him out. And maybe they
were a better team because they're managing. The manager is
a better manager. Because I questioned Aaron Boone's moves a
lot of times. That's all I'm saying. All right, you
had had some bonette plays in the playoff games.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
They really did.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
When you get smacked around ten to one. Toronto's a
better team, they really are, so God bless you. I'm
gonna let your role enjoy the playoffs, all right, speak
to you next week.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Was that? Okay, Puck? Did I handle them? All right?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah? That's fine. I would say this.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
The Yankees last year were upset when the Dodgers beat them,
and the Dodgers said that they knew that Yankees would
implode because they don't play quote unquote smart baseball, base running,
understanding the mechanics of the game, the fundamentals. They don't
do will Jazz Chishem getting doubled off as another example
that the Yankees don't do the little things will and
how you do the small things or how you do

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all things, and that keeps a very talented team for
maximizing their potential.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Exactly right, I hear what you're saying, and you would
agree that Toronto is a better team tough to bottom, Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (25:20):
Mean like you just have to go by how they
dominated the regular season. Yes, no, that Toronto is a
better team.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Right, here's a story that you're like first hand, You're ready,
you're involved with this, all right, I'm talking about the
mac Jones story. I want to know what happened in
New England? Why the change in San Francisco. He's playing
like a starter now. The final year in New England,
he was two and nine as a starter with your Jags.
Last year he was two and five. Now he's a
perfect three and zero. Was a starter with the forty

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nine ers taking over a brock party who had that
toe injury. Nine undred five yard, six touchdowns and an interception.
Thursday night, Kendrick Bourne had ten receptions for one hundred
and forty two yards and a twenty six twenty figures.
He went over the rams. Mac Jones right now is
maybe the those sawt after guy in the league because
people are looking at the quarterbacks, they're dropping like flies.

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How does he turn it around? You were close to
the guy he was in Jacksonville last year? Do you
ever think that he'd come around? My answer to the
question someone would ask me that, I said, you know
why he's better, Kyle Shanahan, that's the reason.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
Well, yeah, I mean I earn percent of the players
in the league are system players.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Mac Jones.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Mac Jones is finally in a system that suits his talents.
Kyle Shanahan has always had a loving eye for mac Jones.
Their reports that he wanted to take him back in
the twenty twenty one draft but was talked out of
it in favor of Trey Lance. And what you're seeing
is Kyle Shanahan's vision come to light. This is how
he would have used him, this is how he wanted

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to use mac Jones if he had him, And he's
doing a really good job of asking Mac to do
things that are well within his skill set. Mac is
doing a great job of playing within the boundaries, color
within the lines, and allowing the plays to happen. Mac
Jones is a first round pick. He's first round talent.
There are enough people that deemed him to be worthy
enough to be a first round pick, So you never

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give up on that kind of talent. You now have
to put it in a system where it can be maximized,
and that's what we're seeing in San Francisco. The way
this sets up, he will have an opportunity to do
what Daniel Jones has done to do with Sam Donald
has done when you get in this system, this stratosphere
of the Shanahan system, which is a prevalent system throughout

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the league.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Now he has an opportunity to go.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Somewhere else that utilize that system and to continue to
be the player that he's shown flashes of being in
San Francisco, because through the three games that he started,
he's been terrific. And so people are going to eat
the cheese on that for sure.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Okay, would it be wise right now for the forty
nine ers to say, wait a second, maybe we could
get some trade bait out of this kid, because Nick
Bose is gone, he's got that season ending injury, and
the Bengals right now, I don't think they're going anywhere,
and they could probably unload Trey Hendrickson because they didn't
want to resign him again, probably for next year. Would
a Bengals be wise to get Mac Jones because obviously

(28:10):
they need quarterback helped. There's no doubt in my mind
they need you know, Jake Browning's not getting the job done.
Get rid of Trey Hendrickson, get Mac Jones, and Nick
Bose will be on the sideline. So Henderson could fill
in on the forty nine Ers. Not a bad deal,
I wouldn't think.

Speaker 7 (28:24):
I mean, you could think about that. But if I'm
the Niners, why would I want to give up mac Jones?
Right now? My starting quarterback, Brock Purty is injured. We
are sitting at four and one. I don't want to
weaken what as a team that is sitting at the
top of the vision. I don't want to weaken that
right now. Now, if you're telling me that we're a
five hundred ball club and we don't have a chance
of making the postseason, yeah, I would consider getting rid

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of mac Jones, But now, no way.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
We're gonna ride this to the wheels fall off.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
And the most important player on the team outside of
the starting quarterback is the backup quarterback because when the
starter inevitably gets hurt, the backup has to play. And
if you have one that can win games, look man,
it's invaluable. So that's why you got to keep mac
Jones in the fall.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
All right, I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Now, there's another guy that came out the blue Jackson
Dart last week for the Giants, who wrookie quarterback.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Giants beat it. I was shocked.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I was shot the Giants won number one, but I
was shot that they beat the Chargers twenty one to
eighteen and Jackson Dart wasn't It wasn't tremendous, but I
think some of his energy really helped that team win
the game.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
What do he had?

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Fifty four rushing yards? Was one hundred and eleven yards
something like that? He was sacked five times? So the
Giants played the Saints today. Can he come back? I mean,
obviously there was no film on the guy, so maybe
they didn't know what he was all about. Now there's
a film on it. Can he come back and do
it again? I guess he could do it against the Saints,
It's no doubt about that. Everybody else is doing it
against the Saints. But can he do it today? Was

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it something that just came out of them? Because no
one knew who he was. I didn't know how to
play against him.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
I would say like what he did was not things
spectacular in terms of in between the lines. I would
say the energy that he brought uplifted the team. The
defense seemingly played better because Jackson Dart was on the field,
his energy, his connectivity with his teammates, the way that
he was able to ball.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Out and spurts. There's a belief.

Speaker 7 (30:17):
If you ask scouts within the league, what is the
one thing that the franchise quarterback brings. He brings hope
and because Jackson Dart was on the field, the team
had hope and the optimism that they could get it done.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
So they played better. And eleven passing yards fifty four rushing.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
Yards is not a great stat line, but what he
brought was the energy and the swag and that stuff
that can't be quantified going forward, though, he's gonna have
to get better. He's gonna have to be more efficient
as a pastor, and they're gonna have to be more
effective when it comes to scheming up stuff form. But
for that game, it was just enough because the defense

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played lights out and.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Elite Neighbors has gone for the season, So that's that's
a negative for the Giants, right idea to receive a
Elique Navyes. But as far as the Giants are concerned,
I think the only thing they got to do today, hopefully,
if they want to win this ball game, they got
to stop Alvin Kamara because he's gonna be I think
he's the offense right now for the Saints, and if
they're just gonna give him the ball, I won't be
surprised if he gets like thirty five carries today, really,

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and that's that's.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
What they gotta do.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
They're own four, and I hate to see them beat
the Giants after what the Giants did last week. But
you know, I would think the game is in New Orleans.
I think the Saints got a fighting chance today.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I mean, they always have a chance.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
The league is one where as soon as you think,
you know, you have no idea. So this would be
a tough one for the Giants because they'll go down
to New Orleans and think that they're gonna put it
on them. And that's and the Giants, I mean, the
Saints are gonna be ready, and you just never know
because the margin for areas so thin in this league.
You have to be at your best to win games.

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And all the John's are gonna need to be at
the best to be the Saints.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Okay, I mentioned coming into this segment that the Indianapolis
coach should be four and oh you want to hear
why they're not four? And can we play that? Let's
hit it right now I want to hear what happened
last week.

Speaker 11 (32:04):
Three receivers stacked the right side for the Polts Shawton
staff for the quarterback. Will It's left fires down the
left sideline and it isn't catch.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Hey Deve Mitchell.

Speaker 12 (32:12):
There he goes inside the thorny down the Pisteton touchdown.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Hey Dan Mitchell his first career touchdown in the NFL.

Speaker 12 (32:24):
Hold on just the moment the officials talking to one
another at the goal line, if they happened furthest away
from us as a d Mitchell had a great adjustment
on the ball and then streaked down the far sideline
rade it in front of the manual Forbes Junior.

Speaker 11 (32:41):
He bobbled the ball at the end map. He switched
the ball in his hands right at the goal line,
and it looks like he may have fumbled it before
he crossed the goal line, which would give the Rams the.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Ball on the Florio gold where the ball is loose.

Speaker 11 (32:55):
I mean, that's just like the Jonathan Taylor play last
year in Dender, the same exact thing.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I mean, Dave Shavu all over again. You know when
Williams players learned you have to show up. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
He was celebrating what would have been a seventy six
yard TD catch a d Mitchell and they could have
been four and oh, it's amazing. Really, I don't get it.
I mean, how do you face your teammates after the
game in the locker room?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
How does that happen?

Speaker 7 (33:19):
I mean, it is disappointed, but you have to own
up for it. I mean, he made an egregious mistake
trying to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
But I mean it's young boys. They've done this before.
They sticked the ball out before they crossed the goal line.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
They f silly celebrations and sometimes it proves to be costly.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
This was a costly situation.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
The Coats were dominating the game and that not only
took points off the board, but it gave the other
team life.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
And so this is what it is. I just don't understand.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
All Right, They're a home today in Indianapolis. They're three
and one playing against the one and three Raiders. Last week,
Ashton genty had one hundred and one hundred and fifty
five total yards and three touchdowns. He's coming around. It'd
be a tough one. Although I think the Colts win
this game. I think the Colts are the surprise team.
That's one of the surprise teams at least. And then
that NFL this year agreed.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Who's no more team in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
No one of the surprise teams the Colts.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Oh, look, no one expecting them to do it. Daniel
Jones is exceeded expectators.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
All Right, we move on these Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman,
and we are Fox Football Sunday at Foxbut's ready and
he is the true answer man.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Who is?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
He asked Bucky. It's next, ask Bucky, coming right up.
I'll tell you what it's about. Twelve minutes now before
the top of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday.
Bucky is, Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman who We're live
from the Foxbuts Radio studios. And I will say this Brianna,
our executive producer, you have a question from our studio audience.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (34:43):
I do? I do? Okay?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
So this is from Christopher. No matter how dirty the
NFL did John Gruden, how could they let him back
in the league.

Speaker 7 (34:54):
No matter how dirty they did John Gruden, how could
they let him in the league. I'm not convinced that
he's going to get back in the league. I think
the main thing with Grutin is he has a lawsuit
that's pending, and sometimes that litigation can prevent you from
getting a job. I think he certainly wants to coach.
His best opportunities, though could probably happen at the collegiate
level more so than the pro level.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
You think Penn State or Arkansas are either a few
of those options.

Speaker 6 (35:17):
Possibly I would.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Lean more Arkansas than Penn State.

Speaker 7 (35:22):
I don't think Penn State can move off of James Franklin,
just giving the amount of money that they voted him
and what he's done. Arkansas is a little different. It's
wide open and they're looking for relevance.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Kay, then we actually have a question from Mark, You
go for it.

Speaker 13 (35:34):
So Bucky a quarterback who sits behind a horrible offensive line,
is he always in a bad spot because he can't
talk about his lineman? But then if he doesn't say anything,
he's just caught in between. Can he ever say anything
to them about their play because he's not killed back there?

Speaker 7 (35:54):
He can't because then it get worse. They'll let everyone
pass through.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
So he has.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
To take more on himself.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
While they know the truth.

Speaker 7 (36:03):
So he has to be like, hey, I gotta do
a better job getting the ball out my hands.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
And you gotta run faster.

Speaker 7 (36:07):
But they know, yeah, we gotta run fast, we gotta
do a better job. And then they know though they're
getting little but he can't throw them under the bus
in public, for sure.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
You didn't want to mention is the name is Jake Browning.
That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 13 (36:17):
Really, just any quarterback who has a horrible line who
has to run, but he can't say anything in the
locker room. He can't say anything at all because you
just have to take it.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Exactly what he does over here, you know, with our
executive I just take it.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I just take it all right, Okay, I got a
question for you, Buck. Now, we hear that teams take
the personality and identity of their coach. What executives that mean?
Maybe you could give us some examples.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Meaning the team is going to react to the leader,
and so if the leader's whiny and crying and always complaining,
then the team has the authority to do it. But
if deletedly is confident, still he eye focused, they're gonna
take that on. You are impacted by the people that
you around the most, and these players are around the
coaches the most, and so the way that coaches act

(37:05):
ultimately that has a tremendous impact on the players.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
That's why they take on those personalities, all right.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Media reports said that the Bengals were not prepared and
their losses against the Vikings and Broncos. As matter of fact,
I watched the Money Night game and Troy Aikman said
something I never ever heard him say on a broadcast,
said they were not prepared. I mean, what does that mean?
Not prepared? I mean, aren't they just a bad football team?
But when he used that term not prepared, I was shocked.

(37:31):
I mean, did you hear that when Troy Aikman said that.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
When you talk about lack of preparation, it means that,
you know, like they're not ready for their obvious things
that showed up on tape, meaning you don't have a
plan for Blitzer as your pass protection is off, you
don't have adjustments that should be simple simon adjustments based
on what this team has shown itself to be. And
so it's surprising when an announcer like Troy Admen comes

(37:58):
out and says those things. But look, man, he sees it.
There are things that are obvious that are the DNA.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Of the opponent. If you don't have answers for that,
you haven't prepared properly.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
No doubt about that. Okay, this one's from Brionna. Brionna,
you want to read that Cowboys and Packers Sunday Night
Football deal?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
That's you a question?

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Absolutely? Okay.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
So the Cowboys and Packers obviously tied on Sunday Night Football,
and coach McVeigh avoided the tie on Thursday Night Football
by going for it on fourth down. But did you
think there's a reason for the negative stigma regarding ties
in the NFL?

Speaker 7 (38:31):
No, but I think it's silly because I think it
could cost Sean McVay and the Rams in the end
by taking the tie. They still don't walk away with
the win, but you get like whatever half to point,
And what it does is it keeps you in the
mix and the playoff race. But by kind of putting
himself out there, dropping his onions and going for it,
now they have a loss, which is far more detrimental

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to your playoff chances.

Speaker 5 (38:55):
You got another one, they'd be oh, yes, okay, which
team is more likely to go winless this season, the
scene through the Jets, please say the Jets think, y'all.

Speaker 6 (39:03):
Buddy, what.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean?

Speaker 7 (39:07):
I'll say this, The Jets have more talent than the Saints,
but the Saints the Jets fundamentally also make more errors.
And so if we talk about more games are lost
in one, the Jets are probably more likely to lose
all their games. This Aints is gonna find a way
to scratch. They almost scratched a couple of times this year.
So I would say the Jets over the second.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
And what do you think is harder to do? Kind
of like go undefeated or winless?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
To win That's a good question.

Speaker 7 (39:35):
It's hard, like teams give it or it's hard to
go winless, but it's been done.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
But it's very very difficult to do.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Which is hard enough to go winless? Yeah, I think
it's hard to go winless.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, it's hard to lose every game, It really is.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I would think so, I mean because I think that
there's more to I mean, it's kind of sounds stupid.
It's more to play for. I mean, you go undefeated,
I mean it's great, but if you if you have
thirteen fourteen wins, you know you're going to the playoffs
and you're gonna put coast a little bit. But to
lose every single game, you're kind of playing for your job.
That's the key. So you do want to win. It's

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kind of hard to go winless. That's that's ugly too,
It really is. All right, do we have time for
another one?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Mark? Do we have one more?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yes? What do you think?

Speaker 8 (40:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
We do not?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Okay, thank you, thank you very much. Okay, we're gonna continue.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
I got a big I got a big topic for
you coming up at the top of the how really important.
We'll do that coming up next. Right here on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
All right, one team got its mojo back, that's right
around the corner. Good morning, everybody, it's that time. It's
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Radio on YouTube and subscribe. Okay, Bucky Brooks, I tell
you what I love anfl dot com and you got
a goodie this week. But I got something bigger. I
got something bigger than life. I really is. I read
a column in the New York Times. It was in

(41:24):
Monday's paper. The headline, Get this, parents struggle with decision
to let children play football. All right, So I'm reading
down in the paper and the story is its Shane Timora.
He killed four people and himself in midtown Manhattan this
past July. He had chronic traumatic encephalopathy and a degenitive

(41:46):
brain disease linked to repeated head hits sustained in football
and other contact sports. That's CTE, the disease that been
diagnosed only after death, and it is really found an
older athletes years after they started playing football. Now, this
gunman who killed himself and a couple of people in

(42:07):
Manhattan had started playing football at the age of six.
Now you're involved with the game of football big time.
You played the game. Okay, have you seen that parents
have really had the kind of on the fence situation, like,
I don't know if I want to have my kid
play football. I'm a front of injuries, all right, I

(42:27):
mean the risk of brain injury. Right, this is pretty
important stuff. I think it's big.

Speaker 7 (42:33):
I mean yeah, but I mean that's been the wave
the last ten fifteen years when people are worried about
their kids participating in football, and there's been an outcry
to not have your kids playing tackle football, like until
they reach ages of twelve or those things. Look, I've
seen it go a few different ways. I was someone

(42:53):
that played football from the time I was seven. I
think I finished playing when I was twenty eight. I've
seen others who didn't start playing tackle football until they
were heading into ninth grade, and they've been able to
carve out successful careers in those things. And carving out
a successful career, I'm not talking about playing a pro

(43:14):
football player, But what I'm talking about is taking the
lessons that you learn from participating in the game, the
coaches that tell you the ups and downs of participating
in the sport, and using those lessons to become better
away from the game. So to me, it breaks my
heart to hear people saying they don't want to expose
their kid to the game. But I also understand that

(43:34):
part of it, because, look, it's a great responsibility that
you have when you're coaching young people in this sport.
It's a violent sport, it's a dangerous sport, all those things,
and so you have to make sure that everyone's kid
that you are responsible for that. You're trying to make
sure that you teach them how to play the game
and the safest way possible, and so that may mean

(43:55):
using different taxes than they were used yesteryear, but you
really have that obligation make sure that you give every
kid a great experience on the film.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
I never thought twice about it, and now my younger
son played football, played college football as well. I never
thought twice about not letting them play. And the one
thing I don't understand. They're so concerned with brain injuries,
and you should be, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
You should be.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
But how come they don't get involved with soccer. They
don't wear any protection in soccer and they're heading the
bowl all the time. There's got to be CTE in soccer,
isn't there. I mean, I haven't done any studies. I
haven't seen any studies. But why does soccer get to pass?
And it's all about football and there's a lot of protection,
I got to believe in football.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Look a few different things when it comes to it.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
In soccer, they get what they call pugilistic dementia, where
it's the repeated banging of the head on the soccer
ball or whatever can lead to some brain issues down
the line. With every sport there comes some risk, and
I think with soccer and football and baseball and all
those things, you have to be mindful of all of

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and you have to make sure that, to the best
of your ability, you have preventative care in those sports.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But football is.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
One that gets banged on because it's America's most popular sport.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
It is it's blood sport.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
It makes some people feel queasy because there's a gladiator
mentality to it, but people know the inherent risk of
the game. What the league, the NFL, and people that
are the gatekeepers of the sport are trying to do
is there's a great push for flag football at the
lower levels, boys and girls flag. Some of that is selfishly,

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the league wants to create a new generation of fans,
and by tapping into girls flag, you now create these
girls who grow up to be women who support the
game and are going to be more likely to have
their kids participate. And you're trying to show people different
ways of being introduced to the sports. So it's not
just the only way that you can play is to

(45:56):
jump into this barbaric game at seven. Know this to
ease another way to ease into the transition of playing
tackle football.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I hear what you're saying, Okay, and look, it's not
going to go away. Football is doing the best thing
they can as far as protection and equipment and things
like that. The one thing I kind of question, obviously,
money rules in all sports.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Money rules in life.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
And they talk about their concerned about injuries and the
commissioners talking about that all the time. You got to
believe that the more games you play, the more chance
you're gonna get hurt. And I look at rosters right
now this year, I mean, how many teams are playing
with backup quarterbacks? I think something like seven. I mean
it's crazy. It's like going to a Broadway show and
seeing the understudy. You want to see the regular guys.

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You want to see the actors and actresses. I mean,
I want to see starting quarterbacks. I don't want to
see the backup guys. I don't want to see Jake
Browning play, all right, and obviously either the other fans
are paying customers because the team cannot compete as well
with a backup guy.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
That's just it.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
That's because of injuries. And look, the quarterbacks get all
the protection in the world. You can't hit below the knee.
You can't do this. You can't that.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Quarterbacks have all the protection in the world, but they're
still getting hurt.

Speaker 7 (47:05):
Yeah, but I mean, here's the thing you can talk
about not want to pay, but there's obviously an appetite
for it. You see YouTube, Amazon, Netflix, Everyone is getting
into the TV business with the NFL, and as long
as people are willing to write those big checks to
cover the sport, they're going to continue to play these games.
The reason why, in my opinion, the NFL is making

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this huge initiative over health and safety is they're trying
to prevent litigation down the line, so they're trying to
squash that while expanding the game and maximizing the dollars
that are available there. So some of you, you have to
understand is just talk, right, It's just a lot of conversation.

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It's a lot of propaganda. The other part is about business,
and the NFL is about their business because the thirty
two owners want to make sure they maximize the profits
in reach earned, the players get paid.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
This is just a part of it.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Hear what you're saying. All right now, now for some
serious business. Here's our business. You know you wrote this
week for NFL dot com and it's tremendous, it really was.
And you right about contenders not contenders. Right now, Let's
talk about the Baltimore Ravens, all right, because they were
viewed as a potential Super Bowl contender today if the
season would end, they probably wouldn't even make the playoffs. Okay,

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to Baltimore Ravens. They're one in three. They host the
Texans today. Back to the AFC champions they were, well,
Lamar Jackson, he's gone, he's got the hamstring, he's not
gonna play.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Let's check this out for a second. They're one in three.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
That's their record back to nineteen ninety. Let's go back
to nineteen ninety. Two hundred and fifty two teams start
with a one to three record just thirty five, which
is like thirteen percent make the postseason. There's a good
chance right now, really that Baltimore Ravens may not have
made the playoffs. It's unbelievable what happened to the Baltimore Ravens.
And we talked about defensive problems the secondary, specifically with

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the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
What else, why can't they get it together?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Now?

Speaker 4 (49:04):
I understand they had a tremendous schedule early on, they
played Buffalo, Detroyton, Kansas City, and I think as the
AFC champions, maybe they deserved an easiest schedule.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
I mean, why are they playing Buffalo, Detroyton, Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (49:18):
They're playing it because it's a way to schedule in
the league. The league would prefer everyone to fall within
these ranges seven and ten, ten and seven because as
long as everyone is in the hunt, their fan bases
are excited because they believe they have a chance to
win it all. The reason why the Baltimore Ravens can
defy the odds and make the playoffs is the toughest

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part of their schedule is behind them. Three of those
first four games are not only playoff teams, but their physical,
roughen Riga teams that can get it done, utilizing a
variety of different methods to do it. Now the schedule
lightens up, and as it lightens up, the Ravens sole
focus should be on let's make sure we're playing our
best ball down the stretch. The second half of the

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year is where we need to turn it on.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
They gave away some games.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
Because remember these games were within one point, you know,
and they just let it slip and get away from them.
But the one to three start can be overcome if
they fix the issues and get back to who they
are offensively, which is running the football using the two
head monster of Lamar Jackson Derick Henry to set the

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table for everything. If they get back to that, the
Ravens can look they can handle all their issues and
be one of those teams we continue to talk about
in the tournament.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
You know, when I see the schedule today and I
say that the Ravens are hosting the Texans of both
teams at one and three, I think it's a topographical mistake.
I look at this game, I think the Ravens should
roll over the Texas. I would think the Ravens can score.
There's no doubt in my mind they could still score
even though with Lamar not playing today. The problem is,
I don't think that defense could get off the field.
That's the problem. If it's hot in Baltimore today, which

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it probably will be, they're gonna have their tongues hanging out.
You got to get that defense off the They got
to stop the run. I don't think it's stopped the
running game. That's the key right now. Defensively, that's a
major problem. Stop the run on early downs so they
could get into a pass rush and get ahold of
their quarterback CJ.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Stroud, knock him down. That's the thing right now.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
And I'm surprised that the Texans being one and three
as well.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean, look when you look at the Texans
being one and three, some of that has been can't
be attributed to the offensive line and the leaks, you know,
the wolves that the offensive line is having just from
jump they have been able to get on track. They
have been able to protect CJ. Stroud, and that's been
a huge issue for them. When they are able to protect,
the synergy and the connection just hasn't been there the

(51:41):
way that they want it to be. But It's still
a very very good team, and defensively they can get
after it. Dimko rans hand it off play calling duties
so that he can focus on being the head coach
and manage the entire game, and they responded better last week.
We'll see if that continues to be a thing to
monitor when it comes to how he's overseeing the whole
operation instead of calling it from a defensive perspective. But

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I wouldn't pour dirt on the Texans. They still are
very talented team and there's a toughness about it that
gives them a chance to bounce back right.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
And I love their coach. I think you took about
a team taking the page off of his coach and
resembling their coach. Two teams remind me of that. To
Texans and the Detroit Lions. Those two teams I think
really follow the personality.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Of their coach.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, one PC, I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Thank you ver you agree with me. Get that on tape.
Bucky Brooks agree with me. I love that, all right?
I agree this is I know you're a little nervous
now because this is a biggie. First of all, we
talked about a team that's getting his mojo back and
that team. I gotta believe it's the Kansas City Chiefs.
They're two and two right now, but tomorrow night they're
hosting your Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Will you be at that game?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I can't wait to be there.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
That's a big, okay building.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
And you say that the key Xavier Worthy twenty eighth
pick in the twenty twenty fourth draft of Kansas City,
this man, I guess, making noise in the NFL, the
fastest guide receiver. Right now, We'll see how good the
Kansasy offense is Monday night against the Jags. Because your
Jags right now have forced thirteen turnovers, one of the
best defenses in the league. I think last year the

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entire year with that like nine the whole year, I
think it is tremendous. So tell me about this game
right now, because I'm pulling for your Jags, who are
three and one, Chiefs two and two.

Speaker 7 (53:27):
The big thing about this game and the difference is
the Jaguars are obsessed with the turnovers. That turnover exception
shows up in practice, It shows up in how they
talk about it, how they scheme it up, how they're
using more zone concepts to have more odds on the quarterbacks,
so than.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
See the ball thrown.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
That results in a faster defense reacting to the throws,
tips and overthrows, the interceptions, all those things. That's what
they're doing. Pass rus is underrated. People to see the
sack line, but they don't understand that the pressure has
been consistent from josh An z Allen, Cheryl Walker, Eric Armsten.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
All those guys are playing well and there is a
belief that this.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
Team has in terms of physicality and toughness, that they
can win games operating in that world as opposed to
just being the talented team. And that toughness has allowed
them to bounce back from tough moments, go toe to
toe with a heavyweight on the road in San Francisco.
We've seen how good they are, so there's a lot
of confidence. This though, is a measuring stick game. It's

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a game where they see if all those things they've
talked about, can they live up to those ideals. This
is the first time we have a major major test
at home after having to handle a little success.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
How surprised are you at the Jacksonville start this year?
I mean, a new coaching staff right now, I would
have to say he's in line maybe the coach of
the year.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
Look, I will say this, Liam Cohn has been very
consistent in what he said from the jump how he
wanted the team to operate the demand of the team.
And let me make sure I give that credit the
demands that he makes of the team, because I tell
people all the time, there's really no difference in coaching
high school guys and pro guys, with the exception of

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the money that the pro gas have.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
But you have to be stern.

Speaker 7 (55:16):
You have to be direct with your communication, black or white,
and you have to be consistent when it comes to
I say this, I got.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
To do this. That is where you build trust.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
And that's what the Jackson really focused on, making sure
that the trust is there, because when the trust is there,
you can coach people as hard as you want because
they know it's not about just you. It's about making
sure you're the best version of yourself on and off
the field.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
You know, I don't think there's any other sport but
football where you could get the same personnel. I'm bringing
a different coach and it's like a complete day and night.
I mean, I'm trying to think that it doesn't happen.
In basketball, if you got a bed starting five, you
bring another coach, you still have a bed starting five. Baseball,
to some extent, maybe, but over the long haul, you

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really can't. Hell, I look at the Cincinnati Reds. You know,
they kind of backed their way into the players. You know,
they didn't really make the playoffs. The Mets lost and
they were be able to squeeze in and we saw
what they did. They didn't have much of a team.
That Dodgers took care of them in two games. But
Tito fran Cone I think made somewhat of a difference.
But football is the only game I think where a
coach can make a difference, being on the college level

(56:21):
and or the NFL level, Right, I mean, basically same
personnel in Jacksonville, and last year your ownership said it's
going to be the best year ever.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
It didn't happen. They kind of sunk.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
But look a look at teams that get new coaches
or lose a coach. Look at Detroit, they hadn't done
anything until the last several years, right, I mean, that's
just the way it is. A coach does make a
major difference. I want to know why and how I mean,
how does that happen?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I mean, I.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Don't understand how one guy can turn a thing around
with fifty three men.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
Because the team takes on the personality of the coach.
When you look at the Detroit Lions, you see the
direct image of Dan Campbell when everyone laughed at the
kneecaps and ankles and all that, when his introductory PRESSORAI
team plays like that.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah, his team plays like that.

Speaker 7 (57:12):
They're feisty, they're ferocious detonations because those are the things
that he teaches them every day. He talks about it,
so we just got privy to it because he shared.
But this is what they do. They build them up,
and great coaches can do that. But coaches have to
understand it's something about the x'es and o's, but really
it's about the jimmies and Joe's and making sure that

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you get the jimmies and Joe's to play at their
a level, whatever that level is. Can you get them
to play at their best and then figure out how
to take all those individual best and form it to
make a collective have a collective impact where the team
plays well because everyone is playing well in their respective roles.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
Amazing, really and you know what your ownership hiring a coach,
you know, honestly, I think you could tell if the
guy's going to get the job done in the first
five minutes of the interview because all coaches know x's
and o's, they no plays, they know the game right,
there's no doubt about that. I mean, you bring a
guy in to your office, if he's an electric kind
of guy, if he's got that personality.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
If he's upbeat, I want that guy, all right.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I don't want a guy who's a downer, who's kind
of introverted. Those guys don't get it done. Although I
tell you know, one of the introverted guys really was
very successful with Bill Belichick. Think about that. I mean
I never saw him at a practice. I'm sure he's
like night and day. But talking to the media, he
could put you to sleep.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Yeah, because he's not supposed to really share with the media.
And a lot of what we judge people on is
that part of how they handle the press or their
presentation in those things. I would say the electricity is big,
but I would also say it's important. First thing I
want to know is how do they handle when things
don't go well, what is he like in the building
if we've lost two or three in a row? How
does he handle having to operate in his room when

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he doesn't have his best players available to him?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Can he continue the player?

Speaker 7 (59:02):
Does he whind and bitch you Moon the entire time
about not having my guy?

Speaker 2 (59:07):
What am I going to do?

Speaker 7 (59:09):
There's a level of toughness that coaches must have and
must exhibit to be able to win because the league
is hard, ups and downs. It looks great one year,
it's not great the next. How do you handle it? So, yeah,
the energy is great, but man, I'm gonna look for
the toughness, the resilience, the gritty parts of the personality
to see if that is going to be enough to

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help my franchise get over the hump.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
And there are coaches that have that and they take
it with them from team to team. I'm looking at
Andy Reid, I'm looking at Jim Harbor, and Okay, when
all is said and done, Jim Harbor may be one
of the greatest coaches of all time when he has
accomplished both in college and the National Football League. He
has that magic touch. Andy Reid has that magic touch.
It doesn't make a difference the personnel. You know, they
lose Tyreek Hill a couple of years ago. They got

(59:54):
this kid now, Xavier Worthy. It looks like he's the guy.
He's the magic man for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, I mean he does. He does have that impact
that pool.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
It matters coaching and look, man, coaching is undervalued, but
it really matters a lot in this league. People talk
about the players in those things the National Football League,
the talent on most rosters are comparable. You know, even
on the worst teams, they still have some really good players.
If you put them in the right situation, they can
impact the game in that team's favor. Coaching does that.

(01:00:24):
Coaching is being able to look at what I have
and saying, hey, guys, we need to play this way
to get the best out of this roster that we have,
and the next year we may not be able to
play that way because the roster has changed and we
need to adapt. So it's about adaptability and being able
to adjust. But it's also a focus and tough mindset
that you have to be equipped with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
These players really need to pick it up. We'll get
to that in just about a minute. And we have
the blame game coming up in the final segment, which
is about maybe twelve thirteen minutes from now.

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and I know you'll give me the honest answer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
All right. I watched these.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Football games all the time, and I see a field
goal kicker coming on with three seconds to go, four
seconds to go.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
He's got to kick a forty five to fifty our
field goal for the win.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
In sports, have you ever seen an athlete, or maybe
to some extent, maybe when you were younger, that was
you as well, like, please, don't hit the ball to me,
Please don't come to me. I hope it. The game
does not rest on my shoulders. Okay, when I was
a kid, if I was playing it was a close game.
We're playing softball, whatever it may be, and I'm playing
the outfield or second base, we have a third base.

(01:03:09):
I pray at the end of the game, don't hit
the ball to me. I'm afraid. I know a true
athlete would never think like that. A true athlete would say, yeah,
give it to me, I'll take care of it. But
maybe that's why I never played professional sports or collegiate sports.
But is there a person you have seen throughout your career,
maybe even in the pros, like a field goal kicker

(01:03:30):
just really and truly would just get sick to his
stomach if the game depended upon him when the game
came to the end.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
I mean, I think everyone has some of that, you know,
like anxiety or trepidation, because if you're involved in those
critical moment plays, there's a chance that it doesn't go
your way and you have to deal with the fallout.
But the competitors, the ultimate competitors, they don't worry about
the outcomes. They focus on like, how did I handle

(01:03:58):
the moment in terms of was I prepared? Was I
ready for it to the process play out the way
that I wanted it to. And you have to be
able to live with those results. And it's difficult now
because social media has allowed some yeah to touch you,
so that anxiety can overwhelm you. But the great competitors

(01:04:19):
they walked to the storm, they walked to the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
They're okay doing that, and so you kind of have
to have that in you.

Speaker 7 (01:04:25):
It can be cultivated to a point, but this has
to be something that is in you, that competitor, that
that willing to kind of put yourself out there, and
that has to be out there. We can teach it
and refine it, but hopefully you're equipped with it right
out the gate.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
It's an amazing it's an amazing trait.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
And you know, you see guys in the stands drinking
their beer and yelling and calling these guys bums or
on social media insulting these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
They don't know what they're going through.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
That's why the giants one list week Jackson Dart had that,
he had that mojo. He had that and he brought
it to the team. He'd have a great game, really
didn't that quarterback. It was an average game no interceptions though,
but instead of an average game. But I think what
he brought with him was like excitement and confidence and
like we're gonna win. I mean, and you see that,
and you know, the rookie pitcher on the Yankees in

(01:05:13):
the playoffs amazing, an amazing situation in a situation that
that really no one wants to be in. You know,
playoffs is tough. I mean, you know, sixty thousand people
have following when you you know, there are certain athletes
that do that. But I'm sure you've seen certain athletes
just crunch to fall to pieces in situations like that.

(01:05:35):
It happens, I mean, but certain athletes have it. And
you don't have to have a lot of skill. You
could get by with confidence over maybe skill, right does
not happen at times.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
One hundred percent, It does happen, and you've got to
have a lot of confidence. But that confidence has to
be born from the work that you've done to put
yourself in a position to say, hey, I deserve to
have success because I've done all of the work to
make it happen. But you have to welcome the moment
and you have to prepare your mind to be in
those situations. So you have to think about those things

(01:06:07):
when you're practicing. Hey, if this is end of game,
it's like being in a kid when people used to
always play three two one where you're dribbling out shakla
three two.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
You shoot it right, You're a buzzer beater.

Speaker 7 (01:06:19):
Inherently we all want to be in those moments, but
we're scared of the outcome and what comes with the
outcomes if it's not positive. But you have to wipe
away that fear and you can't worry about whether it
goes or not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
You have to be willing to step in the fire
and take the shot.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Keep I thinking on Michael Jordan. He lived for that,
He lived for those moments. He really did. And some
people I just think that don't want to be around them.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
And I'm sure you can be a pro and not
want to be around them, right, you can make the
process I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
I mean, it's no different than I and I say
this all the.

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
Time, Like when you're watching games with your buddies and
your friends, and the game is tight, your favorite team
is tightest, is last play to win it. Are you
one of those guys that can stand up and watch
what plays out?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Are you hiding your.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Your head and your hands with your fingers over and
you're trying to peek through because you're scared.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Of the outcome? Like those things. I'll say this, man,
this should make you feel alive.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
It's the exhilaration of being in those moments that stirs
up all those emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You should run to that. You should feel that even
when you're.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
Nervous and you have what I call the rubber legs
where you're so nervous it feels like your knees and
knocking and you don't know how you're standing up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
And your pants get part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I mean it may be yours if your pants get wet.

Speaker 7 (01:07:30):
Your pants get wet, I mean like whatever, whatever your
coping mechanism is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, but that's that's the part. That's the part of it. Man.
You should enjoy that. You should embrace that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Okay, now we're going to talk about that. You've written
this NFL dot com, which is tremendous.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
It really is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:47):
And I feel bad because we're not gonna have enough
time to do it. But I just want to hit
on one or two mister irreplaceable guys that are on
teams that really and truly are the guy on that team.
And I want to hit the Buffalo Bills because I
don't know why you picked Youames Cook. I know they've
always needed a running game because they got Josh Allen.
And we're not talking about the quarterback because, as you mentioned,
the loss of a franchise quarterback would cripple any team

(01:08:09):
with Super Bowl aspirations. Just take a look at the
Cincinnati Bengals. So we're talking about not the quarterback. So
I want to know why James Cook and how did
you pick these guys?

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
So, I don't know if you're familiar with the game
Jenga Jinger pieces where you build a tower. They're fifty
four pieces and everyone pulls different pieces from the tower
into ultimately collapses, So which piece is the one that
causes the collapse? So to me and looking at the
Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen is protected.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
But if you take Josh Allen.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Out and you remove James Cook, the running game is
the engine to the Bill's success. Yes, Josh Allen does
a lot, but James Cook is the only other blue
chip player offensively that they have. Dian Dawkins you get
through out there, and so if you remove him, it
changes a pedestrian running attact. Puts so much pressure on
Josh Allen. I just don't know if they can continue

(01:08:59):
to fund with him having to do everything. Part of
their success of late has been the ballast distribution between
the run and the past. That's why James Cook is
so valuable to them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
And Miami Dolphins, you had Tyreek Hill, but he's out
right now. So who's going to replace him as the
most valuable person?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
And you can't be the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
We'll see how this offensive going forward. I mean, look
his first two years in Miami, he has seventeen hundred
yards back to back years. Now, you don't have that
thread on the outside. Puts a lot on two a
tongue of balla to make plays. Can they dink and
dunk their way to success? Can they throw a bunch
of swing passes and bubbles and those things? Without Tyreek Hill,
you lose some of that explosive playmaking ability that forced

(01:09:40):
defenses to play back. Now that they don't have to
worry about him, they can pay Look, they can cast
their eyes to the other guys and take away some
of the stuff that they do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Well. This will be fun. They'd be fascinated.

Speaker 7 (01:09:51):
But yeah, without Tyreek Hill, I don't expect the Dolphins
to do much of anything, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
And I had to scratch my head with this, Causino,
you're a vault with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you said
the mo the most valuable player, a replaceable player is
Travis Hunter, which is just a twenty five draft pick,
the second overall pick.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I mean, what has he done? Really? Why is he
the most irreplaceable guy on the Jags?

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
I would say it's the things that you guys don't
see that he's done in terms of being able to
jump on and off the field offense, defense, being able
to make contributions. He had critical catches for them in
moments that they needed. Even against San Francisco. He make
critical catches. His playmaking ability is there. Then on defense, mean,
he's a sea ball get ball defender. It hasn't resulted
in an interception yet, but his ability to occupy his

(01:10:37):
zone to play it as well as he plays it
on the perimeter, allows guys like Jordan Lewis and Juey
Wingert and others to make plays.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
This dude is terrific.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
When you watch the tape and ignore the stat line,
you understand and appreciate how special he is. He's a
special player and his day is coming, and hopefully it
comes on Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I hope so too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
Okay, now, you did double duty this week. You really
worked your buns off because you also had a column
NFL dot Com pick it up guys in the NFL
who desperately need to get back on track. Okay, slow
start is it is not a death sentence for players
who stumble out of the gate. Blue Chip players work
with their coaches define various ways to get their production

(01:11:18):
of performance back on track. Now one of the big
questions right now, Obviously the Baltimore Raven is not having
a good start, but either is Derek Henry. What's happened?
Maybe the treads on the tire are they gone? Right now?
Has an age caught up to Derek Henry? What's happening
with him?

Speaker 7 (01:11:32):
No confidence? It's all confidence. He fomed the ball late
in the game. Against Buffalo and he has been the
same guy since because he turned the ball over. Now
he's a little timid and hesitant because he's had three
fumbles and in games that have heard him, he's only
lost too. But he has to get back on track
and they have to do a better job of giving
him the ball. But yeah, Derrick Henry is someone who

(01:11:55):
needs to pick it up because as a guy who
has been a two time rushing champ and is a
big straw when it comes to stirring to drink in Baltimore,
they need him, especially because Lamar Jackson is dealing with
an injury.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
No doubt about that. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
When Pete Carroll took over in Las Vegas and they
got Gino Smith, I said, well, this is a pretty
good marriage because he knew from the from the NFL
Pride when he was coaching before. But now Gino Smith
with seven interceptions in four games. You know, you don't
know what you get from week to week with Gino
Smith not consistent. You know, guys have skill. This is

(01:12:29):
my take on it. Guys in the NFL all have skill,
and there's not much of a difference there really is.
They are great players, all of them. But the difference
being is consistency. You know, guys like Josh Allen you
know what they're gonna get every single week. You don't
know what you're gonna get from week to week with
Gino Smith.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
Yeah, no, I mean that's a big thing, and that's
disappointing if you're the Raiders because you draft I mean,
you signed them thinking that you're going to get the
two time Pro Bowl that it played well for Pete
Carroll in Seattle hasn't worked out that way, and he
has to get back on track, like he has to
find a way to make the plays that are there,
but more importantly, take care of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
He has to take care of the football.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
What about the guy who went to the University of Cincinnati.
Everybody was so proud of him. Source Garden to the
cornerback of the Jets. Ten penalties right now? Is he
just getting sloppy? Is it bad coaching? Is he getting
too content? I mean, you know, you're playing a team
that's not going anywhere. You just really, honestly don't give
it damn anymore. I'm thinking maybe that could be it,
but you know, really and truly, I mean, ten penalties

(01:13:30):
not accepted last year. What's happening to the sauce.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Well, I would say this.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
I mean he came out and said he said, like,
when you're with a losing program, you don't get the
same benefit of the doubt that others get. And that
is true when it comes to the Jets. Some of
the tiki tag files that go other teams way or
not going their way because they've been a bad team,
and you have to kind of play in spite of
or overcome some of those calls from officials to be
able to win. Sauce Gardner just has to lock in

(01:13:58):
and focus. His technique and stuff is solid. It's just
a matter of locking in and being the competitor that
he was at University of Cincinnati and also the first
couple of years in New York. It's just about getting
back to the fundamentals, sticking to the base and doing
those things.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
It's there.

Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
He shows flashes of still being the guy that was
a two time All Pro. He just has to be
more consistent of late. Don't worry about what the officials
are doing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Just play the game.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
And I got to go back one more on you
at Jacksonville Jaguars Brian Thomas to wide receiver, only twelve
catches thus far.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
What's the deal with him?

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:14:30):
The thing about Brian Thomas has just been an inconsistency,
just not catching the ball. He hasn't been catching the
ball consistently, and that has been a huge problem in
terms of.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Being able to trust him.

Speaker 7 (01:14:41):
He's been targeted a ton, just hasn't come up with
the plays and he has to elevate his game. People
had the expectation that he would be a top five
receiver to Jacks, wanting to be the dominant number one receiver.
He just hasn't played to that standard yet. The talent
is there, he just inconsistent.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
There we go. Just like me.

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
I'm inconsistent too. You never know what you're gonna get.
All right, He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman. We are
Fox Football Sunny in Foxbord Radio. Don't be shy, don't
be bashful, let it out. It's time. The blame game
is freaking next. Hey, turn the music up a little bit.
If it's Stevie Wonder deserves a little more sound, you
know what I'm saying. Blame game coming right up. It's
about eleven minutes now before the top of the hour,

(01:15:21):
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(01:15:43):
gonna get the podcast done, today's podcast will be posted.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
He should have followed.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
The podcast rated five stars and you can even provide
a review.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,
and you'll find today's full show posted right after we
get off their Right now, it's time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
For the blame game.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Yeah, who's the blame's You're full, Brian, Let's get going.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
You're full?

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Okay, guys, are you ready? Who should I start with? First? Okay?
I'm ready?

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
Okay, Okay, Bucky, let's start with Lamar Jackson. Is that
out is out today for the Ravens against the Texans.
Cooper Rush is the backup, one of the many backups
this season? Why and who do you blame.

Speaker 7 (01:16:21):
Uh, look, man, I blame the Ravens, just not well
for all the quarterbacks. I will say this, it's just
the nature of the game. The game is so viol
and so physical that you just have to have a
good backup quarterback. So it's not the quarterbacks fault. It's
just the nature of the business. When it comes to
the speed of the defense.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I will say this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
You know, the way Lamar Jackson plays is very risky anyway,
but I don't like seeing these quarterbacks getting knocked out.
There's something wrong here. And look, they protect them to
the ninth degree, there's no doubt in my mind, but
there's something wrong here that they're all getting knocked out,
and I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong for
fans and you want to see the number one guy play.

(01:17:00):
That's why you pay your good money to watch these
ball games. You watch the games on TV, and honestly,
for the gamblers, which I am not, I think it's
very difficult to pick a game when you have a
backup quarterback. So who do I blame? I blame maybe
the physicality of the game of football and maybe the
way Lamar particularly play plays the game.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
You're so high and mighty. I don't Gambell. I'm just
too good to Campbell. I'm Andy firm.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I'm not high in mind.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
I just I don't believe in it. I mean, I
worked the racetracks all my life. I worked the dog
tracks and raceTo. I just I don't. I've seen too
many people go home with no clothes on their back.
I don't like it.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
Okay, Well that's depressing. Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Sixteen is the number of NFL international games the league
eventually wants on its schedule.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Who do you blame? Andy?

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Money?

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
It's all about the green cabint you know, it's not
the gelt.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
More money, more games, more money, That's what it's all about.
And the international games I don't like. I mean, they
want to sell the National Football League and put their
flag in every country. Make it an international, not a national,
but an international sport. I get it, okay, but you
know what, who's gonna get hurt? The average fan.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
The average fan who pays for season tickets now is
gonna lose a home game? They are.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
I think it's wrong. You wait all year long, you
pay good money for your games. He's supposed to get
eight games, maybe nine games, whatever it may be. And
you gotta get cut short a game because of the
international games.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
That's it, Bucky.

Speaker 7 (01:18:18):
Yeah, I mean it's a big money maker. The owners
want to maximize the product. That's why they're taking it
overseas global. They are more TV things that you can see.
It's just a bigger, more pieces to the post. So
that's why. So I blame the ownership.

Speaker 5 (01:18:32):
Okay, Zero is the number of NFL wins registered by
my New Orleans Saints quarterback Spencer Rattler. He made his
tenth start last Sunday, lost to the Bills.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Who do you blame, Bucky?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:18:45):
Look, man, he doesn't have a great team and he's
trying his best.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
But the team isn't good.

Speaker 7 (01:18:49):
And no matter how you get the quarterback, if he
doesn't have the right supporting caster're not gonna be able
to win.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
You play to win the game.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Yeah, I tell you what, I blame the same because
you know, how do you let this guy play? I
mean he's not good. He's not a good quarterback. I mean,
you don't have a quarterback, you're not gonna win in
the National Football League. That's basically the name of the
Game's gonna he's not gonna win.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
They're not gonna win. They're not gonna win today, and
that's the end of it.

Speaker 6 (01:19:14):
You're so rude. Anyways, I listen to you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
We don't need editorial comments from you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
Who do you blame for the poor star of Titans
QB cam Ward?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Andy, Oh, you know, that's a great question.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
I just think that again, he's not on a good team,
not getting much protection. They're learning process in the National
Football League. I think he'll come around. I think he'll
do well, I really do. But he's not on a
good team. That's the key right now, Bucky.

Speaker 7 (01:19:39):
I mean yeah, I mean this is the team's not great.
Brian Callahan is spinning. They just don't have to structure
round them to be able to succeed. We'll see what
it looks like. I'm sure they're gonna swap it out
at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Sounds good, guys, Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Have a great day, have a great weekend, Bucky.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
I'll see you next week and also good luck tomorrow
against Kansas City. Bring him a winner. I'd like to
see it beat up on Kansas City. Jackson. How's that
see that? She'd be a lot of fun all right,
and Mark take care of Mighty Mark will do that.
All right, There we go, Greg Cosel, Mike Krmer coming
up next right here on Fox

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