Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Recap the controversial ending of Bills Broncos, the Seahawks dominance over the 49ers, why Indiana has the edge over Miami in the National Championship and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Oh this was painful, very painful. That's coming right up.
Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Mady Fermanent. We're broadcasting
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now, without further ado,
let me introduce to the world today, mister football, my friend,
mister Bucket Brooks. Bucky, how are you?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
I'm great, Andy. What's going on? Man?

Speaker 5 (00:33):
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I'm trying to make you a little happier because I
know it's a little said down there Jacksonville with the
Jags and losing, but you know it's over. You got
to move on and that's the way it is. But
it can't be any worse than what happened in Seattle
yesterday with the forty nine ers. I mean that, and
I say was painful. That was painful, but so is

(00:53):
the second game. But let's get into this for a second.
Forty one to six Seattle over the forty nine ers,
and everybody's saying, do you know, and I know our
producer Brandon Sandy's a big forty nine fan. The injuries.
This is more than injuries. This is a great freaking
football team in Seattle, and that defense is like the
Legion of Doom that it's maybe better than the Legion

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of Doom. I have never seen that. And they started
it right off with that ninety seven yard return for
a touchdown. I mean, this team had no flaws, at
least yesterday had no flaws.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah, but that's yesterday, and that's all that mattered.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
They're the best team in the stadium by a wide margin.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
And knocking off the forty nine ers.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, Mike McDonald has the Seattle Seahawks playing at a
high level. This team is rock solid offensively, defensively, special teams.
They made the trade Forshi Shashid doing the regular season,
and then you got to see Am Donald, who didn't
throw on Thursday or Friday, but he showed up and
played well even though they were able to keep him

(01:54):
under wraps.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yes, it's a really good team.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
They knocked it off, but it means nothing if they
don't win next weekend, it just means nothing. Just means
they had a great Division round performance.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right, you know. And it's funny because you know the
big story going into the game with Sam Donald with
the oblique injury he comes out, he plays, he goes
twelve to seventeen point twenty four in a touchdown. And
what I'm noticing more and more in these playoff games,
you know they pit quarterback versus quarterback, and that that's
the selling that's the selling line. It really is that.

(02:26):
That's what the TV networks do when they say quarterback
versus quarterback. It's more than that. It's defense. And yesterday
that Seattle defense was smothering, you know, Christian McCaffrey, how
to get going? Yesterday eleven carries for just thirty five
yards is the best defense in the National Football League.
Teams are running like three point five yards of carry
against this defense. I don't know if it's the personnel.

(02:48):
I don't know if it's the coaching combination of both.
How do you stop a running back like a McCaffrey
like that? How does this defense work? Tell me you
are a defensive guy. It's so good, little man.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Their violence, their physicality is next level. They played with
great effort. Mike McDonald is a terrific x's and o's coach.
He can make you play left handed because he's willing
to break his own rules to put put together the
schemes and game plans and just completely throw you off. Now,
I would say the Diners, the version of the Niners

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that showed up yesterday was compromise. You don't have George Kittle.
I mean, you're kind of limping into the contest. You
lose guys very very early into the game. And so
they didn't have the same kind of perimeter threats that
you had to defend.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
But they did a really good job of locking.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
In on Christian McCaffrey and U Check and having coverages
that can handle all of the complex pre snap motions
and shifts and different things that Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Does to throw you off. It's just a well.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Constructed team and their personnel and their scheme matches up,
which is why they're very, very difficult to beat.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, Now, for for those making excuses for the forty
nine Ers, and look, I give Kyle Shiney had a
lot of credit for even getting as far as he
did with the injury plague that he had on this
ball club. Right now, but the forty nine Ers met
the Seagawks for the third time yesterday on September seventh.
The forty nine Ers won seventeen thirteen and just two
weeks ago in the third of January, it was the
Seaguks thirteen to three. So the forty nine ers end

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the season scoring I combined twenty six points in three
games against the Seagawks this year. Okay, that is the
fewest points scored by any team among seventy six single
season hit the head matchups with three games in the
I guess post Super Bowl era since nineteen sixty six.
It's unbelievable what they've done. And look, I know the

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game was in Seattle. I'm watching on TV. It was
really hard to even hear the announcers with the sound
of the crowd behind them. It was deafening. I mean,
you've played there. I'm sure. How bad is that? What
kind of an advantage is that, because to me it
was it was very difficult to hear the announcers on
TV with the with the crowd noise in the back.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Yes, it's a very difficult environment to be in.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
It's one that when the twelves are rocking and rolling
and they have early action that gives them an opportunity
to be lathered up.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yes, it's a very tough environment.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
And I go all the way back to the heyday
when the Lob the Legion of Boom was doing it.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
The early twenty tens.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
When I used to go up there and watch those
rivalry games between the Seahawks and the Niners, and it
was rockets. You could even hear yourself think it is
only gotten better. It's only gotten better up there, the team,
the crowd, the way they're connected, the city and the franchise.
And then just because this team is so good, yeah,

(05:49):
they have it going on. There's a very difficult environment
and whoever plays up there next week is we have
a tough time going on the road and knocking them off.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Okay, now, now we got to bring on our executive producer. Okay,
Brandon Deutsch is a tremendous forty nine Ers fan, and
I get it. On the seventh of September, the forty
nine one, seventeen thirteen in Seattle, all right, and they
were healthy but still an old Brandon, I condolences to you.
I know you're down on the dumbs, but you gotta admit,

(06:18):
and it's gonna be tough to admit that Seattle is
a better team than the forty nine ers. You gotta
admit that the better team won not only yesterday, but
the better team one period yesterday.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of course, But if if Nick Bosa, Fred Warner and
Brandon Ayuk wasn't you know, doing whatever he's doing, speeding
on the freeway instead of playing football games, I think
it's a different story. I mean, momentum is everything. Andy,
they scored on the first play of the game, the
game was over. I knew right then. The Niners are
a horrible football team when they don't make the first punch. Historic,

(06:53):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
If that game may have been in San Francisco. I'm
not saying that the forty nineers would have won, but
I think a little bit of different story would have
been a lot close. So I got it leave that.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
He still would have lost in San Francisco with this
version of the team.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
But yeah, there's a lot of IFFs and things that
I remember Mike Tomlin said, if my auntie had my
uncle's parts, a different story.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I just I just don't.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I don't know what we're talking about. Like, yeah, like
when he most admitted in that forty one to six,
as the young kids say, a little belt to booty moment. Yeah,
that's a tough one to go into the offseason.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Smarting from a beatdown like that.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
There's no doubt, and I'll tell you why. Now. The
excuses are coming out of the Woodburg right now. They're
saying it was easy to tell which team had thirteen
days of rest, the Seahawks and which team was playing
on a short week. If that an opening round win
at the Philadelphia Eagles the forty nine ers, I mean,
I get it. You know there's a team resting, but
still in all they were banged up. There's no doubt,
and I'm with you, man, And they were injuries all

(07:49):
over the all year long. I mean, the fact that
they made it this far. I credit Coyle, Shanahan and
his staff. He did a remarkable job coaching. But you know,
I don't know. Maybe I'd rather lose like that then
then lose like Buffalo did in the second game. I
don't know. Take your pick. What would you rather do? Buck?
I mean, if you're playing, I think I'd rather get

(08:09):
blown out than lose a heartbreak and we'll get to
that in the second and lose a game because of
the guys with the whistles.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, I don't want to lose, period, Like there's no
way to do it. You feel terrible either way.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
If you're the Niners, you feel your heartbroken because.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
You didn't feel like you had enough to come to
the show with.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
You didn't have enough firepower to give yourself a fighting
chance to.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Be a really, really good team.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
If you're the Buffalo Bills, when you lose a close game,
it's all of the regret from the opportunities or the
chances that you blew that you that you know. So
it's a difficult thing. But look the finality of losing
in the playoffs, it doesn't matter one in one hundred.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
It still sucks. It's crummy.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
There's no doubt about that. Okay. So we look now
at the at the Seattle Seahawks. They got a host
the winner of today's game between the fifth seed of
Los Angeles Rams and the second seed of Chicago Bears.
And now the Seahawks are the first NFC championship game
in their first one since twenty fourteen. All right, so

(09:16):
good for them, all right, and not good for Brandon,
But there we go. But the next game, the second game,
which may have been one of the best football games
in the last several years, and it's been really a
credit to the National Football League this is one of
their better seasons over the last five six years. I
really believe that is a great competitive season. This year
saved the one thing that you have a losing team
in the playoffs. That's another story for another day. But

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the Buffalo Bills, they suffered yet another another playoff loss.
And next year when the Buffalo Bill's got a camp
and Josh Allen gets under center, he's gonna be thirty
years old, still looking to get to the super Bowl.
So join the club with Joe Burrow joined that club,
Josh really so. The lost yesterday, and the loss came
with a lot of controversy Denver's thirty three thirty overtime

(10:00):
and when Broncos' game winning drive was set up by
an interception that shouldn't have counted according to Bill's coach
Sew McDermott, Do we have the coach? Do we have coach?
Can we hear what he had to say on that
go ahead? Coach?

Speaker 6 (10:11):
I called a time out to try and slow it down.
It would just it would seem logical to me. The
head official would walk over and want to go and
take a look at it, just to make sure that
everybody from here who is in the stadium to there
are on the same page. That's too big of a play,
in a play that decided the game potentially as well
to not even slow it down. And I've had a

(10:35):
chance to look at It's hard for me to understand
why it was ruled the way it was ruled.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
And if it is.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Ruled that way, then why wasn't it slowed down just
to make sure that we have this right. That would
have made a lot of sense to me.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
So I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Wow, look, let me shif this in for a second.
About eight minutes left to play a little of the
eight minutes to play in overtime, that Bills, who are
going third and eleven from their own thirty six yard line,
Josh Allen decided to throw a deep pass to Braden
Cooks on the player. Cooks a pat to catch the ball,
but after rolling to the ground, it was Jaqwan McMillan
who came up with the ball. Okay, I don't know

(11:12):
how you felt about that. I have no idea what
the call was. I believe with the ref I'm more
upset with the pass at deference calls. I think those
are worst of this call. What's your take on that
call when you saw that call, Bucky.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
I think there's a lot of crime in wanting. I
think there's no way.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
That you could call that a reception by Brandon Cooks
when he doesn't finish with the ball in his hands,
because you have to complete the catch through the impact
on the ground. McMillan snatches the ball away from Brandon
Cooks while they're rolling over, so he never has complete possession.
It has to go to the last man with the ball,
and the ball never hit the ground, So it's either

(11:49):
a completion or an interception, and you can't rule it
a completion when Brandon Cooks doesn't finish with the ball.
So Sean McDermott can cry about it. He can say
that you want to slow down and replay, which I
understand they should have replayed it and maybe given them
the common courtesy to say, hey, we looked at it
again and it's still an interception.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
But to me, it look, I don't know what all
the crime is about.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
It's not a catch if he doesn't finish for the
ball in his hands. We've heard the league say that consistently,
so to me, it was consistent with the rules. That
they have now, those interference calls, Yeah, like we could
say they're tiki tak and those things. Tradavious White was
a little tougher. I mean we've seen it in this league.

(12:32):
If you're not looking back for the ball and you're
impeding the receiver's ability to catch it, they're gonna throw
the flag. Now his was closer to being like, I
don't know, we can let that go. But the last
one or the one at the end, now seven had
the one first, it was yeah, White at the end,

(12:54):
that was PI. I mean that was passing inference. He
poorted me jerk and me twisted it. I still feel
like he was a bell out because Marvin Miham should
have caught the pass. But it's clear and obvious that
it was pasting inference. I mean that's just what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I'm hear what you say. But I go back to
the cook situation. If Cooks was ruled to have the
control of the ball when his knee hit the ground,
then the play would have been over, okay, But the
officials ruled that Cooks did not maintain control of the
pass as he hit the ground, so the ball was
still alive. We'll make Miller snatches, so obviously that was
the right call. Okay, So we go further, and then

(13:30):
after the game the referee, Carl Scheffer's he gave the explanation.
He was asked why the rule was an interception. He said,
the receiver has to complete the process of the catch,
all right. This is what he said to the pool
reporters in the locker room after the game. He was
going to the ground as part of the process of
the catch, and he lost possession of the ball when

(13:51):
he hit the ground. Okay, the defender gained possession of
it at that point. The defender is one of the
completed processes of the catch, so the defender is a
ward of the So it was the right call. The
problem I think you have is a whining, as you say,
I think there's another problem. I think with the gambling
aspect that we've seen in college NBA basketball, and to
some extent in football, and the betters out there, I

(14:15):
think those are the ones that are going crazy. And
I think there's a little bit of a cloud of
doubt on top of this, and I think people believe
that the credibility factor of professional sports right now is
taken a hit don't you agree to that?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
I mean so, I mean, like, yeah, there's something to
be said for that. People talk about the officials either
overly involved or not involved enough. The calls tend to
be inconsistent. We don't like the stoppaging play because it
messes up the rhythm and those things. But ultimately in
the postseason, what you see is the officials put their

(14:50):
whistles in their pocket.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
They're not a lot of flags.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
They let people play unless it's egregious and both of
those things. Because of the nature of the way the
Buffalo Bills were playing, they had all out pressure. They're
playing Manda Man. Sean Payton was obviously trying to take
advantage of them being in Manda man. Because when you
play Manda man in your back is to the quarterback.
These pis tend to happen, I mean loo because it

(15:15):
proven fact you have more passive inferences penalties when people
are playing man as opposed to zone, because zone, you
have your eyes on the quarterback, you see the ball thrown.
You can get better position on the quarterback and to
throw in the ball because your end zone as opposed
to man, where you're chasing your guy. So that's a
part of it. Sean McDermott rolled the dice on those

(15:35):
calls to play more Manda Man and ultimately they suffer
the consequences because those pis, those passing inference penalties were called.
And I think you could be justified in making both
of those calls based on the rules.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, I will tell you this much. Take a whine
of cry wi a wama. The controversial deception that we're
talking about was just one of five turnovers by the Bills.
You're not gonna win games when you have five turnovers
like that. And Josh Allen, the quarterback, was responsible for
for of those turnovers, and he had two i nts
and he lost two fumbles. I mean, they said he
had their streak like something like forty seven forty eight

(16:11):
games in a row without turning the ball over, and
he turned it over twice last night in the flumball.
I don't know how that happens. I think part of
the reason being may have been the crowd noise. Maybe
you couldn't hear I don't I don't know. I mean,
but let's ask Josh Allen, okay, play play I want
to have with Josh had to say go ahead, Josh.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's extremely difficult. I feel like I feel like I let
my teammates down tonight.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
It's a long season.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
I hate what ended, and that's uh, let's go stick
with me for a long time.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I tell you what you hear that you gotta feel
for the guy. You gotta feel for the guy. Guys
crying after the game. I mean it's a big deal.
I mean people talk about the money guy makes Money's irrelevant.
It's still a game. These guys play as hard as
any little league guy plays. I mean, you're a competitor,
and when you lose as a competitor, it hurts. And

(17:05):
you know that more than anybody else you played.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
No, it certainly hurts, and I feel for him to
understand the emotions. It was gut wrenching for him and
his teammates the way that they went out. He didn't
play his best game, particularly coming off of a game
in which look he was nearly flawless the week before
against the Jaguars. He managed the game effectively, and he

(17:31):
made the plays.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
That he needed to make against the Jacks.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Against the Broncos, I feel like he and his teammates
ultimately did too much. And I know that this game
is going to be overshadowed by the past interference penalties,
the interception that was controversial in those things. But let's
be clear, the Buffalo Bills tricked that game off. The

(17:55):
Buffalo Bills had an opportunity to go up fourteen to
three James Cook fumbles. Buffalo Bills turned it over five
times in a playoff game. You cannot win football if
you turn it over five times. They put a stat
up in the middle of the game when it was
a minus three turnover differential. Teams in the postseason are

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one and eighty five now one in eighty six, Like,
you cannot turn the ball over that much. Like I mean,
it's been proven turnover differential is the number one deciding
factor in football, in all games and particularly in the postseason.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
So Sean McDermot and everyone can be upset.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
They gave the ball away five times, four of those
by the best player on your team and maybe arguably
the best player in the league. So yeah, there's a
lot that should be on them, But yeah, they turned
it over.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
That's why they lost.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, one last thing. You talk about a loss, but
there was a loss on the Denver side as well,
because the victory for the Denver Broncos came at a
big cost of the second to last player of the overtime,
Bow Nicks. I didn't even see. They didn't even mention
this on TV. Really bone Knicks broke up bone in
his ankle, requires surgery, will sideline it for the rest
of the season, obviously the post game and this is

(19:08):
what Sean Payton announced after the game. I didn't hear
the announcement. I did, Maybe I missed it. Did they
announce that after the game? I didn't find that out
till late, real late early this morning, actually, I mean,
and he was interviewed on TV after the game, bon Knicks.
There was no talk about it at all. He looked great,
he didn't wasn't in pain. I mean, he said. The
injury came in the second to last play of the overtime,
before a second and twelve pass to Marvel Min's junior

(19:29):
that was called for defensive pass at the first to
set up the game winning field goal attenph. So he's
gone and we'll see what happens now with them for
the rest of the way.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
So I give Bo Knicks a ton of credit because
the play with the injury that he played with is
not easy. Even though it was just a couple of
plays like that was bananas to hear about that in
it being season ending and him having to undergo.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Surgery and all that, like that is tough.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
But here's why I give Sean Payton credit for handling
it the way that he did, by being out there
and by already speaking life and confidence in the Jared Stidham.
He believes that Jared Stidam can give him a chance
to win in the championship game and he has no choice.
And everyone is going to count them out and say
they can't get it done. But I will tell you,

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like we saw it with Nick Foles and some others,
like it can be done with the backup quarterback. Their
defense will need to play better, even better than they've shown.
And then offensively, they got to find a way to
run the football and manage the game in those things.
But it's not over for the Broncos. This is just
a bump along the way. But yeah, it's heartbreaking that
he won't be available for his team.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Right And you know what, this year, to me, the
backup quarterback was more visible than any of the year
that I could remember. And maybe it's because they're playing
more games, and maybe it's just a coincidence. I mean,
they're going to go to eighteen games now. The backup
quarterback is the most important position right now in football,
and I think a lot of teams are going to
be looking at that more so than they have in
the past. But you know, you don't want to see

(20:59):
the backup. You know, go to a Broadway show, you
don't want to see the under study. You want to
see the main guys. But that's just what happens in football,
and Brandon knows that better than anybody. With the San
Francisco forty nine ers. As we move on, He's Bucky Brooks.
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about ten twelve minutes from now. But the National Championship
game is said for Monday night in Miami with the

(22:53):
Hurricanes of Miami University against the Hooshis of Indiana, and
they have there have been some questions with the overnight
success of the Hoosias, okay, and they were asked those
questions by our own Brady Quinn and Brady Quinn is
on many of these Fox sporots Whady Affiliates daily at
six a m. Eastern with Jonas Knox and LeVar Arrington
and the two pros and a cup of Joe. And

(23:14):
here's what Brady had to say about the Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Mackgan, we had him, We had literally there you go
and stayed at him. Had they make the plays down
the stretch? Yeah, so's there's some people out there who
like floating this conspiracy theory, and I'll just I'll address
this because this is what happens. I think when you
see a team that's so dominant or beating teams and

(23:38):
changing narratives right like they're the only team that's gotten
a buy in the playoff in the last two years.
They expanded that has moved on. That has won and
moved on. So they changed that in narrative because everyone's like, well,
if you get a buy, it's not to your advantage.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You know you're gonna want to buy.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
Well, Indiana changed that, and then if you looked at
the rematches, at least of the power for teams not
you know, Ole miss playing Tulaine again.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
All right, that was Brady Quinn on his podcast and
before the season began, buccket you know that no one
saw Indiana anywhere near the national title conversation. And it's
been fifty eight years since to who's his last one
a Big Ten championship, let alone compete for a national title.
So the rivalry and the fans have held back. They're
accusing Indiana of cheating during this historic run. And what's

(24:30):
your take about all of a sudden Indiana zooms to
the top of college football. My thing is that Kurt
Signetti had won anywhere he went elon James Madison's winning now,
but all of a sudden, now the skeptist are saying
that Indiana's cheating.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, I wouldn't say the cheating. I don't know how
you accuse him of cheating. I think what he's done
is he has a recipie in a formula that has been.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Easily repeatable wherever he's gone.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
And some of Indiana's rise to prominence has been jump
started by the fact he was able to bring over
thirteen guys from James Madison when he originally came over
two years ago, and those guys formed the core.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
And look, we.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Can talk about like what they do x's and o's,
but from a cultural standpoint, by bringing those guys over,
he was able to get the culture jump started because
he had a crew of guys that already knew the
expectations and everybody could follow their lead. And what happened
last year's success like jumping onto the scene, and even
though they lost in the playoffs, they got a taste

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of it. Well, they had a lot of players come back.
They drop in a quarterback in Mendoza. They have a
system that is well thought out, carefully constructed, as time
tested because the coordinators offensive and defensive coordinators have been
with him throughout this entire journey from small college ball
all the way up, and so they just understand who

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they are and they do a great job of teaching.
I would say that he should get even more credit
for the coaching job that he's done and the fact
that he's playing with the more experienced and mature group
of players. People are acting like he's playing with thirty
year olds. That's not what he's doing. But he is
playing with a bunch of fourth and fifth year seniors.

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And as we've seen in March Madness, the older teams,
the more experienced teams, are the ones that win because
no talent, no matter how talented the eighteen year old,
the five star eighteen year old is, he cannot match
up physically with the twenty three year old guy who
has played a bunch of snaps at a collegiate level.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Okay, the question that's been floated out there now they
say it's odd that now Indiana, they've had four games
this year with the first or second play of the
game for them defensively has been a pick six. Okay.
And there's a thought or an idea, they say, and
it's been floated out on social media that they might
have some coaches leaking this stuff out because they've got
someone on their defensive staff who has a cyber intelligence background.

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I don't even know what that means. I really don't.
So you're saying that there are coaches in the coaching
profession are out there to help out Indiana. Is that
what it is? But they did ask but Elliott, the
defensive coordinator of Indiana, and they talked about the interception
against Oregon. When cornerback de Angelo Pons that pick on
the first play from the scrimmage, he said that they

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already knew and it tells an Oregon's offense and defensive
film sessions. They study, that's what they do, said Pons.
Knew what was going to happen. He read the quarterback's eyes,
he recognized the receiver's alignment, and he recognized the release,
and he broke on the ball. That's it. They studied,
They study hard. That's what they do.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
That is what they do. And you know why they're
able to do it is because those guys have been
around the block a few times. When you're Pons and
you're a senior and you've been in college football four
or five years, you've seen all the things that you
can see. You begin to understand what we talk about
a dB HASH split alignment, meaning where a player a
wide receiver alignes in relation to where the ball is

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on the hash marks can tell you a lot about
what route you can anticipate. So on those plays it
was a condensed split. It was tight. You can see
where it related to Normally, if you're lined up tighter,
that means you're gonna run an outbreaking route. You line
up wider, you're gonna run an end breaking route. He
was sitting there playing the route, and also the zone

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that they had called had him playing in the flat.
And so they just do a great job of disguising
and understanding where they fit in the defense. And to me,
I think they just are great at executing what they're
asked to do, more so than some highly advanced cybersecurity
tactic that they're stealing plays and those things. Everything is

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on tape for you to see. Is your job to
pick up the tails, meaning the clues to let you
know what is about to happen based on anything.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Line I meant.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Sometimes you can see receivers break the huddle and you
can tell the ball that's going to do because they're
rubbing their hands or they grabbed a towel, or an
offensive lineman sets very light on his fingertips so you
know he's about to pass it, or pull all those
things that they're on the tape. Your job as a
coach and players to uncover it so he can give
you an advantage.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Okay, before our friends and Hoosier fans on twelve sixty
AM in Indianapolis called crazy, let's just say this. The
level of detail is nothing new on the coach course Signetti.
His program takes and this is what's been written about him.
His program takes an almost obsessive approach to preparation. He's
constantly self scouting, he's constantly breaking tendencies and hunting for

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any small giveaway opponents might show. And there's been no
evidence of wrongdoing, no NCAA investigation, And at least one
coach who faced Indiana this year brushed the room his
office Asdine quote Asenine saying the who's a really fing
good that's what the coach said, and extremely well coached.
And I believe I believe that. I mean, look, there's

(30:06):
jealousy out there. Everybody wants to knock down the guy
on top. Indiana's on top right now, and there's a
reason they're on top. That got good football coaches and
good football players, and they work hard at it. That's
what they do.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
That is what they do, and that's what makes it
so tough.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And people are having a tough time figuring out how
the Hoosiahs are so good. And I would say a
lot of it is coaching. When I watched them play
Oregon both times, even Dan Lanny talked about them being
out coached. And it's the execution. You don't see them.
We talk about beating themselves. You don't see them have
missed assignments or blown coverage that lead to big plays.

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They're a very good tackling team. They do a really
good job in the preesta phase of moving around on defense. Offensively,
they run a system that is quarterback friendly, easy to execute.
They do a great job of getting the ball to
play makers. They have older playmakers that have made their
way up. It is a really good team that can
get at you and do it a ton And it's

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gonna be interesting to see how they play against Miami
because Miami's defensive coordinator work with Signetti at Jamu used
to be as defensive coordinator, has a familiarity with the
head coach and the offensive coordinator. They run variations of
the scheme that they employ. It will be a really
good matchup and I'm excited to see it. I think

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this is exactly what college football needed. We needed some
new names in the puzzle. And it's interesting since the
money has been above board and everyone's spending money, it's
interesting how the new teams pop up as opposed to
the old teams that were always there, i e.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
The SEC And it seemingly.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Is a correlation between, oh, well, you can't cheat, these
teams can't pop up, and so it's been.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
Refreshing to see new teams pop up.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
And do it.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
And I'm excited about the championship game on Monday.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
I am too. I tell you what. The one thing
I'm not too happy about is the game is in Miami.
Is kind of a home game for Miami. But it
just happened to work out that there like that. It's
a happenstance right there. But you talk about the money situation,
everybody's talking about, like Ohio State had thirty five million
dollars for their roster. You know what they paid in
the year. Years past, they were paying under the table.
At least now they're paying over the table. It's legal,
there's no difference, right They were given out the bagmen.

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Years ago they were doing illegal payments, so now at
least it's it's upfront. But the point of the matter is,
if you're upset about anything, you should be upset about
the college basketball. And I said money is the root
of all evil? Whose college basketball right now? With the
FAI I claimed more than twenty nine games were fixed
in twenty three twenty four and in twenty four to
twenty five, one of the biggest gambling conspiracies in American

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sports history. Why because the guys of the players at
the big schools are getting money. And the schools right
now that are kind of cited are schools that maybe
these kids are not getting big in il money, so
they were approached by the gamblers to throw the games.
That's basically what's happening right now. You've got schools like
Eastern Michigan involved with the situation. I mean schools that
you never would have believed that would be involved in

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gambling and throwing games. Nickels State, Tulane, East Carolina, Northwestern State,
to Caine, Saint Louis Lassell. That's why, because these kids
are not making big nil money, so the gamblers could
approach them, right Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
I mean, that's that's what it is. It's not.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Fair across the board when it comes to the amount
of money that you can give up. So you're seeing
some of that happen, and it's going to happen because
there's so many different things factors that have gone into it.
Daily fantasy kids, having more access to gambling on their phone,
all that plays into it. So it was only a
matter of time before those things started to happen.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
How does it stop and what does it do for
the credibility of the sport? Right now? When you're watching
a game like yesterday Cincinnati University, since I beat the
number two team in the country, Iowa State, is there
any question people not scratching, like, how does that happen?
Right now? I mean, there's gotta be some credibility problems
in the game itself.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
I mean, I don't know about credibility. I just think
it's tough.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I just think it's tough right now because the talent
is even across the board now, everyone's not just loaded
up going to the blue bloods. That's just made it
where you're gonna have more upsets in those things. But
the gamblers are gonna be there because of the things
that we have. It's not even they're looking. Guys are
looking for quick money and they find themselves getting jammed

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up with some of these gamblers and bookies and those things.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fermer.
We're live for the Fox Bus Radio studios. And of
course everyone has questions because there's only one man with
the answers. Ask Bucky, all right, ass Bucky right around
the bend right now, in about twelve minutes before the

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top of the hour. This is Fox Football Sunday. He
is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and we're live from
the Fox Bus Radio students. It's time for ask Bucky
Brandon Deutsch? Are you ready for this?

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Let's do it?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
All right, Bucky, you got Brandon putting you on the
hot seat right now.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Let's get it done, alrighty So forty nine Ers linebacker
Eric Hendricks, he was praised on TV last week for
being very special, played pretty well against the Sea Oks
Agon though I don't know if anyone truly played pretty
well when you give up forty one points. But I digress.
Why are the forty nine Ers his fourth team in
the past four years, Bucky, he's.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
An older player despite going to one Pro Bowl. Sometimes, man,
when you're older player, it's hard to stick around. And
he does show some signs of decline in terms of athleticism,
waning speed in those things. But what you lose in athleticism,
you can gain an experience and expertise. And for Robot
solid in that defense of simplified defense, he's allowed to

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play faster because he knows what's going on. He doesn't
have to think. That's why he's able to play as
a veteran player.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right, yeah, all right, I got another one. Indiana. They've
been known or they've been criticized the last few weeks
of having an older roster. They signed Billy Gowers, an
Australian punter via the Transfer Bolder Portal. He's twenty nine,
almost ready for social Security. According to Andy, what are
your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Lookiamy, that's pretty common signing an Australian kicker and punter.
That's kind of what they do in terms of being
twenty nine. If he's others to play like, that's what
it is. I don't think anyone is really gonna be
fussing over a twenty nine year old punter. It would
be different if he was a traditional position player, but
a kicker punter, no one really cares about it like that.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Buckay, I got one for you. I don't want to
bring up any bad memories about the Buffalo game last
week with the Jacksonville Jaguars. But after the game last week,
Lynn Jones an assistant editor with the Jacksonville Times. She
was in that postgame media session after the loss of
the Bills, and she shocked the media world by praising
coach Liam Cone in front of the group and they
all gasped. It went viral because you know, there's no

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cheering of the press box, and there's a situation where
you ask questions, not really command someone. What's your thought
on I thought it was beautiful, I really did. But
what's your thought on that move with Lynn Jones?

Speaker 6 (37:06):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Look, I thought it was overblown by the people that
were weighing in. I think you have to be in
that area to understand. Lynn Jones speaks for the people
who works for an independent African American paper. She was
just Look if you saw Liam in that moment, very
much like you heard Josh Allen. He was distraw and despondent,
and I think in her grandmotherly nature, she felt that

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she gave him basically a virtual hug by throwing praise. Look,
I think the reporters that were up at arms need
to get over themselves, like we all do a great
job in terms of that, but there are a lot
of whack questions that are lobbed out in these pressers.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
And Liam, it was at the six.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Minute mark, and do you know that there were any
other questions after that that He's they have twelve minutes
and no one else had anything.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
They had exhausted all the questions, so it was fine.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, I got one morning, and he's gonna like
this one. John Armall won a Super Bowl right fired
by the Ravens. Mike Tomlin won a Super Bowl fired
by the Steelers. Covin Stefanski, two time Coach of the Year,
fired but then got hired. It looks like by the Falcons.
Yet the lone coach in that AFC North Division, Zach
Taylor the Bengals, remains. How does that happen?

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Because the Bengals don't pay coaches that don't work for them,
and they refuse to pay him being fired, so whenever
his contract ends, that's when they'll have a parting of
the ways. But the Bengals are cheap. Now, I will
say this about Kevin Stefanski. I am blown away by
the love that he gets on the street for being
a good coach. I am blown away. I know he's

(38:41):
a two time Coach of the Year, but his record
is upside down. He's had two winning seasons out of six.
I don't get it. I'm being honest with you. I
don't get it. But maybe it turns out better. And
Atlanta didn't din in Cleveland because I haven't seen any
of the magical, mystical stuff that he's supposed to bring.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
All Right, I got a football question, obviously a field
question for you. The Packers quarterback carrying through Valentine he
was celebrating last week he had accept it a Caleb
Williams pass at his own team's twelve yard line in
a playoff game. Okay, he was tackled by the Bears,
but Williams from Green Bay's forty through the pass on
fourth down. Now, if Valentine simply just let the ball drop,

(39:22):
the Packers would have had the ball first and ten
on their own forty instead of their own twelve. Why
didn't he do that? I know, the spur of the moment.
Maybe he was shot or is he just stupid? I
don't get it.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Well, I guess time score situation. Like I'm honestly, sometimes
in the game, in the moment, you don't think about it.
On fourth now, end of game, hail Mary situations. We
talked about that, but we just don't talk about like
in the middle of the game, like hey man, drop it,
don't pick it. Like here's the other thing. That's the reality,
and every interception matter is when it comes to negotiating

(39:54):
your contract the next time around. And so you want
them all. You want them all. And because people don't
remember how you got him, they just remembered they look
at the stadline that you got him. So sometimes I
can play a part in it. You just go and
get him whever it's there.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'll give it. I'll give Valentine a benefit of doubt.
I don't think he was thinking about his stats with
the interception, and I don't think he was thinking clearly
about getting the ball on the forty instead of the twelve.
The ball was in his hands, he adccepted it. That's
what you do, and you know, an interceptions and an interception
still the team takes over. That's basically what it's all about.
So that's what you do. Yeah, you gotta take it.

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You got to score, take it, take it.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
I never knew that interceptions count on the contract.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
I mean yeah, whatever you do, it's like like ratings
and clicks and downloads, it all counts. And so that's
why guys are picking off. And even though we tell
guys a knock it down on the hill, Mary, they're
like coach, they all count.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
There we go, Bucket Brooks, Andy Fumman, he was wrong,
Honey admits it. That has so much more aware How
Fox Football Sunday coming up here next? Oh, the one
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(41:30):
Bucky Brooks, mister football, how are you. What's going on?
It's a great time of year to be a football fan.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Yeah, a great time of year. You love playoff football.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
You have college football playoffs, the National Championship on Monday,
you have the NFL playoffs.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Look yesterday and today. So it's a great time of year.
Love it.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
You know what, you talk football. But I gotta go
back for a second. I heard Steve the Sega with
the sports update at the top of the hour, the
ant man Anthony ed which puts in fifty five for
Minnesota yesterday they lost the game. You know, I'm listening
to like these accomplishments and it just rolled off your tongue.
To me, that's amazing. I mean, you put that fifty
five points for a backcourt guy. I mean some of

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the greatest things in sports. You're throwing three touchdowns, running
for over one hundred yards in a game, I mean,
hitting four home runs, pitching on no hitter. These are
accomplishments we just mentioned. But you know you played the game.
To me, you're probably more in awe hearing about these
accomplishments than a schmuck like me. I mean, I just
read them off and say, well, he did this to this.

(42:30):
But with you, it's like you got to be saying
to yourself, Man, Anthony Edams, fifty five, I would have
loved to have seen that, because that's one hell of
an accomplishment. Fifty five points And I didn't tell you
how many shots he took. I don't care. He's scored
fifty five points in an NBA game. That's that's pretty
damn good.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Yeah, I mean, there's gonna be a certain sense of
respect that maybe a player will give to another player
when you see them do things that are uncommon in
the league because you understand that he's playing against the
best of the best. To drop fifty on the best
of the best in the world is a tremendous accomplishment,
and to do it at a skill level. And if
you go into an NBA game, you said, either course

(43:08):
at or in the arena where you really can see
how big these guys are. Yeah, nothing short of remarkable.
Hats off to Anthony. Ra was on a great night.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, And I'm hearing stories that these guys that we
talked about bow Nicks playing with the injury. I'm seeing
the guys going to the sideline, yes stay getting oxygen.
You know, the average fan doesn't care. They pin the
stands with the cameras during the games, and you see
half of these guys that are drunk with beer in
their hand. I mean, it's like twelve degrees outside the
drinking beer. I don't know why, but they are. They're
drinking beer, and like they're booing and they're yelling. And

(43:38):
I saw some of the Buffalo fans in the stands yesterday,
It's like back off. I mean, these guys they get
paid big money, but you know what, they are the show.
They deserve it. They deserve that money. You know, if
there's money to be had and you're splitting up a pie,
you know what's the game all about? The game is
all about these guys. It's not about the owners or
anybody else. They are the performers and the story. You know,

(44:00):
you go to a concert, that's the performer. They get
the big money. Athletes are performers. Sorry to say it,
that's just the way they are. Sometimes they don't perform
that well. You know, James Cooks had a couple of
drops yesterday, you know, Josh Allen, you know it didn't
have a good day. Two interceptions and four turnovers, but
they still are the performance. That's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's still there, and that's part of
what it is, you know that drives you like you
have to be in the arena. You have to be unafraid,
unbothered by the outside opinions when you step in there,
because you know what you're doing. You're taking on a
great challenge and risk in putting yourself out there at
a time when so many other people won't do it

(44:41):
or are unable to, and so you can't worry about
the criticism. You just got to put your best foot forward.
You got to put your best effort out there, and
you have to be able to live with the results.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
No doubt. And now, look, I'm going to say this. Now,
I'm going to put the spotlight on you, Bucky bro
because it takes a big man, a real big man,
to admit that he's wrong, and it takes even a
bigger one to write about it and now talk about it.
That's why, Bucky Brooks, I'm saying this, but I'm not
embarrassing you. Bucky Brooks is the best in the business
when it comes to talking football, and I don't want

(45:10):
to hype you up too much because what's going to happen.
I'm going to lose you as a partner because people
are going to start realizing how good you are and
how intelligent you are at the game of football. I
watched the CBS pregame show yesterday and I was wondering,
what's going to happen because Matt Ryan wasn't there. He
left to become president of the Atlanta Falcons. And I'm
saying that I think Kirk Cousins was doing the show,

(45:30):
and I'm saying feeling yeah, And I'm saying, why isn't
Bucky Brooks on there? You know? But is it your agent?
I should have been your agent because you would have
been on there. But how does that work? Can you
explain that to me? Does CBS reach out to guys
or is there a pool of guys or agents call
the TV? How does that work?

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Well, there are a few different ways that it goes.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
First, prominent players always get first dips, first bite to
day apple. Prominent players, particularly quarterbacks always get that because
there is a belief in TV and involved that the
quarterbacks are the smartest people, so they have a feel
for the game unlike others. I would say that's not
always true, but that's how it is. So first, prominent

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players go to the front of the line. Second, you'll
have agents who will pitch new clients to people, and
you'll go to auditions or you do like freebies or
guest appearances to get yourself out there so people can
see what it is, so you can get a feel
for the business, the executives can get a feel for you.
And then it's about trying to balance out when it's

(46:36):
time to make decisions, it's trying to balance out the
group that's at the table, you know. So sometimes it'll
be a host, a former coach, an offensive player, a
defensive player, or whatever. Sometimes it's that, and then maybe
you mix in a personality with the group. But you're
trying to get the right group to balance off one
another that has the chemistry to make it educational but

(47:00):
also entertaining, because that's what it has to be. It
has to be entertaining while you're teaching me the game,
and some people have the ability to make that happen.
To take the x's and o's and to make them
fun and come to life, or to take complex and
convey it to the viewer in a simplistic fashion. It

(47:20):
requires a lot to get it done. And yeah, there
are a lot of people out there, a lot of
former players, a lot of people on TV that want
to be on bigger platforms, and so it's a very
competitive field.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
All right, So I get the quarterback situation. We're going
to say, I had Boomer and I love Boomer. When
I got rid of Boomer, they thought maybe he was
too old, so.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
The older Yeah, I mean for a long time it
was him and Phil Simms. Now that's what's odd is
to have two quarterbacks on the thing. Like you typically
like to balance it out, right. You want a quarterback
to give the offensive perspective. You may want a coach
to talk about the entire team, how you get the
team ready. You may have a defensive player to balance

(47:58):
it all out. So now you have all the person
infectives covered. But yeah, like sometimes it can age out.
You're trying to be hip and young, and I mean
the dynamics are changing, you know, and the linear television phase.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
So they went from Boomer to Matt Ryan, and now
all of a sudden they got I guess Kirk Cousins.
But I wasn't impressed. I mean I like him, I
really do. I watch him on Hard Knocks. I thought
he was great, but I don't Maybe it's for a show,
maybe it's nervous, I don't know. But you got to
get a guy with a little more life, a little
more personality, you know.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
And yeah, I mean, like it's a tricky thing, as
you and know, trying to tell someone an aspiring radio host,
how difficult this business can be, right, Like, it's tough
to manage all the things that you have to manage
when you're hosting and throwing back and forth and timing
and people in your ear telling a you got to
rap and all this. There's a lot to it. And

(48:51):
what you're hoping is that your natural personality comes out
on camera while you're juggling all the responsibilities and those things.
And the only way that you become I would say,
good at TV is you have to do a lot
of TV, just like the only way to become good
at radio, you have to do a lot of radio.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
The more reps like the reps, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
The more reps leads to that experienced parlads into expertise
and all that other stuff. But it takes time, and
people a lot of times don't have the patience. That's
why you need to be ready for the big job
when you have an opportunity to handle the big job.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
And I think Mike Thomas going to be in that desk.
I think he's going to replace the former steel of coach.
Because you're talking about age. I enjoy him, I enjoy watching,
but I think he's getting up there as well. So
I think he's mad a guy.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah he's fifty fifty three, but he's a dynamic personality.
And let's be honest, his resume. People can say whatever
they want about his resume. His resume is right there.
He's time for wins with Chuck. No, he has a
super Bowl on his resume, and once you're a super
Bowl champion, they have to call you champ forever. No
losing seasons on his ledgers. So when you put him

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I'm on TV. No matter what you think about him,
he has credibility, so you have to listen. And then
when you think about just his way with words, he'll
be a star on TV and he may never go
back to coaching. This may be it because he may
find Hey, man, it's a lot easier to do this thing.
I can sit here and work on my weekends and
I can live my life, my kids, My daughter's his

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daughter is a gymnast down at Georgia, has two other
kids on social media. Yeah, yeah, that place. So like
maybe for him, maybe it's time. And if he gets
away from it for a year, he may never want
to come back to the rat race.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Well, I don't want to get too personal. It's none
of my business. You're my buddy. But I'll ask you
this question, how are you aspiring to get like in
a situation like CBS or Fox and on TV or
you kind of content what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Well, I mean you never contend, But like, man, whatever
path is out there for me, it'll happen. You can't
run around and chase all those things I have learned, Man,
be where your feed are. Be really good at this,
So be great on Sundays with Andy, and if anything
else comes out of that, it comes out of it.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
But you can't run around, Chason.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
I'll say this, like when we talk about dreams, you're
already living the dream because you're on Red this is
a national show. Like you're already doing some cool things.
I write things that are on a national, big platform.
So like, all of this stuff is cool. I do
TV at Infront Network. All this stuff is cool. Whatever's
out there for me, I'd be out there.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
For me down the line, I think what's gonna hurt?
I don't mean to pick or anything, but the fact
that the position that you played, I mean, when you
think about it, that they want high brow position, they
want running backs, they want receivers. Gronk is up there
a tight end. They want the position played, you know,
the key positions, rather than the secondary position, which is
kind of dumb, but that's just the way it is.

(51:50):
I mean, some of the real facts have been great
running backs. I don't see them on TV.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, some of that look, I think in the end,
because I worked for years with Marshall Falk and your
Hall of Fames. Michael Irvin was a wife receive, marsh
Fulk was the running back, Prime was a DV. Sometimes
it comes down to what you did as a player,
being a gold jacket guy, but also how good are
you conveying knowledge on TV? Shannon Sharp was excellent, Solomon

(52:16):
Wilcox who you know very well in Cincinnati was terrific.
Solomon and Sterling helped Sterling Sharp helped me a ton
in the TV business.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
There are a lot of good guys that are out there.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Sometimes it's just a matter of getting the right break
for people to appreciate you and to blow past some
of the stereotypes that exist when it comes to who
we think would be good in TV versus who actually
is good in TV.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
And you know what's funny you talk about the Thursday
and Night crew, I mean, really and truly that's a
very unusual crew. You got a journeyman quarterback and alignment
do doing it.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
So it's uh and Richard Sherman like, that's what you have.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Like they opted for I would say they opted for
personalities because Ryan Fitzpatrick was a big personality. People behind
the scenes were talking about him, kind of be into
jokes to the frankster. Richie Sherman was bold and boisterous
as a player. Andrew Whitworth, to me, probably comes off
as a bit of the savant. He can tell you
what's going on within the trenches and how it works

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offensively and defensively. Those things happen and you have Tony Gonzalez,
who's the Hall of Fame tied end. So you're trying
to balance out those things to make sure that it's
an entertaining watch for the viewer while also being able
to meet some of the hardcore football heads that are
tuning in and those things. It's a balance and it's
a constant battle to see if you can get it right.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
As an executive.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Well, I'm waiting to see you up there on TV
prior to the game, and you will be there. I
know that, and that's why you're the best. You are
the best at what you do.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
I know that.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
But I'm talking about the clown who does the college
draft for the Full Letter Network. He'll never admit a mistake.
Most people don't. You did, and you did it on
NFL dot Com. I want to go into that for
a second because I'm going to give the airways now
to mister Bucket Brooks. So why would you go public
and say I made a mistake? I mean, I mean
most people wouldn't do that, and you did. You did.

(54:09):
The former NFL player that you are, you said that
you made a mistake on the I guess evaluation and
some of the players of this season ten of them
in fact, So why would you do that?

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Look, man, I think part of the job as a
scout is you have hit some missus guys that you
make opinions on, and then you have to come back
and realize, like, oh okay, man, I was off on him.
And the best evaluators that I've been they're willing to
look raise their hand and say, hey, man, I screwed
that one up. I thought he would be this based
on what he had done, but clearly he's something else.

(54:42):
So let me give him as flowers and give him
his just do. I think it's important to do that
because you need as an evaluator, you need to be
accountable for your opinions, and you need to be able
to honestly reflect and review so you can learn and
become better the next time around.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
And some of the player that you listed, I mean,
you know obviously you weren't alone. I mean, Caleb Williams
is on that list, and I think he was number
one Chicago Bess quarterback, the number one overall pick. And
you know he's come to life, maybe because of his coach,
Ben Johnson. I don't know, but I remember back in
the summer didn't he write a book and he said
that Chicago is a place where quarterbacks going to die.

(55:19):
I mean really and truly, and now I guess that
that is not the case. But what what made you
turn the corner? And what have you seen the Caleb
Williams that say well, I didn't know that before.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
His ability to close in the fourth quarter. I think
that's really important for all the things that we evaluate
quarterbacks on. And I know people don't like quarterback wins
as a stat but it matters. Can you close the
game out when your team needs you in the fourth quarter?
Seven game winning drives, fourth quarter comebacks, Kayleb Williams.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
We saw look in the playoffs like they were down twenty.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
One to three. He leads him back and he made
plays when the game matter. We can talk about a
complete is not being what we wanted to be over
the course of the regular season, but if you look
at his fourth quarter statistics and the way that he
plays in the fourth quarter, you can't deny that he
has a special.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Quality to him.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
And when we talk about quarterbacks, and that's why it'd
be fascinating to watch Fernando Mendoza on Monday Night against
Miami if they're in a situation where he's down and
he has to make some plays what we expect from
elite quarterbacks in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
That's when you're at your best.

Speaker 4 (56:28):
Anybody can do it when the game is kind of
like whatever, it's not, But when it's under pressure, your
team is down and they need you to make a
series of throws, can you make them? Can you come
through in the clutch. Keathy Williams has displayed that he
can do that. I didn't know if he would be
able to stay within the confines of the system that
Ben Johnson has, But what I'm seeing is when he

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plays out of structure, when the game is on the line,
he has a knack for making plays.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
You know, it's funny because you're not alone. A lot
of people felt the same way that he was going
to be a bust. And I'll tell you what I
thought that. I'll tell you why I.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Didn't think he was going to be a bust. I
didn't think he was a bus.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I didn't tell you what because the quarterback position is
a leadership position. And I remember he played in the
USC and after a game he went to the stands
with his parents and started crying, and I thought the
NFL scouts are going to see that and say, I
don't know if I want him to be my leader.
I don't think he's got leadership qualities, and that I
was wrong. I mean, but I'm not going public. I mean,
I've just mentioned it now, but a lot of people

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saw that. I don't think it was a good look
on him crying in the stands after a game like that.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, I mean he talked about playing with his dog
or his cat or anything like that. There are a
lot of people that talked about different things. And I
think what we also have to accept is today's generation
of the generation of players today, they're different. Whether it's
you know, those things that you saw, whether it's like
whether they paint their fingernails or do anything, whether it's
the fashion that they wear to and from the games,

(57:55):
all of those things are different. But and I heard
Mike Rabel say that, and I think it's really interesting.
He said that I can coach people with different personalities,
but not different mentalities. If in their heart they are
all about ball. They love it, they love the competitiveness,
the preparation, the process, doesn't really matter where their personality

(58:17):
is away from the game. But when it comes to playing,
are these are they alpha dog competitors? Yes, and I
can say when I look at Kayler Williams, he's an
alpha dog competitor on Game bad.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I'm shocked at the number two guy on your list
of ten where you said that you were wrong, and
I hate to use the term you were wrong, you're
just miscalculated. That sounds a little better, really, Derrick Henry.
I mean, you knew this guy was going to be
there because the guy is like he's like a machine.
He really is. But he rush for almost sixteen hundred
yards this year.

Speaker 5 (58:49):
He's over thirty.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
He has a million carries on his ledger, like you
not to be supposed to be over thirty Russian for
sixteen hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
But wait a minute, but I saw that move a
couch on a commercial for insurance couch.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yes, he's doing all those things or whatever, but at
that age, this should be a sign of decline. And
let's be honest, the Tennessee Titans wouldn't have moved on
for Derick Hemery. They thought that Derrick Kmy would be
able to do the things that he's doing. You just
keep waiting for the epic fall off and it just
hasn't come and so I was wrong. Normally a thirty

(59:26):
ish back man they fall off, and they fall off
in a hurry. Sixteen hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns. Yeah, hats
off to him. Terrific season.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I'll say this, he felt like twenty six yards shy
of James Cook's lead leading total of sixteen to twenty
one according to your stats. And I will tell you
this much, if in fact the offensive coordinator of the
Baldemore Ravens was a little smarter, he would have broke
the record this year. He would have got the title
because there were several games ended up put the ball
in his belly and I should have. And when I

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started doing that towards the end of the season, they
started winning again. I mean he was left out of
the offense on several games. He really was. I think
one game he had something like eleven carries.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Remember, yeah, like it's I mean, it's one of the
more fascinating things. Why Todd Munket didn't use him, utilize
him more. And I will say this, the Ravens didn't
achieve or realize their potential as a team because I
think they didn't play the way that they should have
played with the personnel. And I know as an older quarterback,
Lamar Jackson wants to be more of a thrower than

(01:00:27):
a runner. But this team has always been in his
best when they ran the football with not only Derrick Henry,
but when Lamar Jackson running. And Lamar Jackson hasn't been
the same. Some of these minor bumps and bruises and
injuries have.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
Taken him off the lineup. It's hard, but yeah, Dereck
Henry is terrific.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
He deserves all of the credit for being a guy
that nearly captured his third NFL rushing title.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Well, it's amazing, it really is. All right, he's Bucket Brooks.
Get him on X at Bucket Brooks at Andy Furman,
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(01:01:09):
It's true, it really is true. The rich get richer.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
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coming up at about ten minutes from now. But I'm
going to do this kind of strange. I know it's

(01:02:05):
Fox Football Sunday, but I'm going to turn the baseball
for a minute if I may, If I may, And
you can say, why why are you doing that? All right?
Because this winter's best free agent is joining the best
team in Major League Baseball. Kyle Tucker. Maybe he didn't
even hear the guy. Twenty eight year old former Astro
and Cubs outfielder has agreed to sign with your team
bucket of Dodgers four years, two hundred and forty million

(01:02:27):
dollars and according to my math, I guess that's sixty
million a year. All right, So now, the media, here's
the story here. Now, the media and the public, they're
balking at the Dodgers. They're balking at major League Baseball
because they want a salary cat, they want to make
baseball more competitive? Is the Dodgers ruining baseball because they
got all the money they're doing that? And the usual suspects,

(01:02:48):
the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Dodgers, those are the
teams going after this player right now. Okay, But here's
my question. Here's the question which has never been brought up,
I don't think by anybody else. Remember when Kevin Durant
left Oklahoma City to eventually get a ring with the
Golden State Warriors, everybody was dumping on Kevin Durant. I
want to know who's in fault of here? Is it
the system? Is it the Dodges? Is it Kyle Tucker?

(01:03:11):
I mean, I don't blame Kyle Tucker. If they're going
to give him more money, you know, go where the
money is. That's what people do. So why are they
blaming the Dodgers? And why are they blame me? Major
League Baseball? And I know Kevin Durant, he got a
lot of heat. He got the heat, but now the
Dodgers are getting the heat. So help me out with
this situation.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Look, I think a big part of it is just
the amount of money that the Dodgers are able to
spend right now. They've been able to creatively package some
of that on deferred deals where they're paying guys later
in life for their compensation.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
But right now, the Dodgers are cash cow.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
They're everything that the Dallas Cowboys should be. The New
York Knickerbockers should be teams in big markets.

Speaker 5 (01:03:57):
That have a lot of cachet.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
They should be able to operate like the Dodgers, and
the Dodgers are crushing it because what they're doing is
they're collecting all the stars in a way, Andy, whatever
reminds me of it reminds me of the old LA
Lakers philosophy when the Lakers have done Because let's be honest,
there weren't many players that the Lakers drafted and developed.

(01:04:19):
Kobe was won, but normally what the Lakers would do
is they would look around the league and say, oh, man,
that's a star over there. Let me go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Get Yeah, let me get it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Let me get Kareema d Jabol, let me get oh,
you know what, I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Let's let's go get whatever prominent star is out there.
When they come up, we'll make sure that we get them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:41):
And that's what the Dodgers have done.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
And you know what, it works because in l A
l A like stars, we like going to the games,
we like knowing who the star players are. We love winning.
And right now the Dodgers have done it. And the
more they win, the more obsessive it goes to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Winning, uh even more, and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:01):
So back to back, maybe trying to make a three
peet whatever it is. The Dodgers are willing to spend
the money to make it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, I get that. And you know what, by spending
their money like that, you do two things. Number One,
you're gonna be more competitive. You can probably gonna win.
They're gonna win their you know, the Third World Series,
no doubt about that, but you're making the fans happy.
That's what fans want. They want to support a winner.
They love a winner. And when a team wins in
a city, and you know this, and the team wins
in the market, everybody's upbeat and everybody profits by that.

(01:05:28):
The restaurants, the hotels, everybody who walks around with a
step that's kind of a different than when the team.
I know what it's like in Cincinnati on Mondays after
a Bengals loss, people are down the dumps. I don't
know why. You know, they live and die with their teams.
That's what they do. But the point of the matter
is that when a team wins in a town, it

(01:05:48):
benefits everybody economically, socially, you know, your attitude's better. It's
just just a better place to live when they win.
It really is.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Yeah, it's a better place to live. And the Dodgers,
they have gone and even added a little more flavor
to the mix. So as you know, La is a
very divers city, a lot of different cultures and ethnicities
and those things.

Speaker 5 (01:06:10):
When you look at the Dodgers team, man, just look at.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
The mashup of ethn nessities and cultures that you have.
You have showne Otani. You know what I'm saying. You
have Mookie Bets, you have all of these other players,
and so when you go to a Dodgers game, the
Dodgers reflect the diversity of the city. And I'm not
saying that that was intentional, but i am saying that

(01:06:34):
certainly plays in where they have these them nights, where
they have whatever Babblehead Knight for Tani. It is all
of Little Tokyo, all of in the stands. And so
they have been able to cash out on the field
as a championship team, but cash out at the register
because they're able to appeal to different parts of the

(01:06:55):
city to come out.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
To the games and do that and we talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
Sports entertainment, they have found a way to kind of
bridge the gap between those and in keeping the city actively.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Involved in a winning program that also looks like the city.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
But I'm still confused why that this guy is not
getting heat, that Kyle Tucker is not getting the heat
that Kevin Durant got when Kevin bolted Oklahoma City to
basically get a ring with the Golden State Warriors. I mean,
you know, it's just I think it's the player, not
the system as much depending upon who the player is,
because he left Oklahoma City and it was not a

(01:07:34):
good look, you know, And most of the people don't
even know who the hell Kyle Tucker is. They really don't.
They don't follow baseball. I don't think with the fine
tooth comb that they follow maybe the NBA or certainly
the National Football League.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Yeah, no, they certainly don't do it like that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
But I will say, yeah, there has some KD feel
to it in terms of like how he left one
team to go to another. But it worked out, and
he's gonna have to play because there's gonna be some
high leveraged moments where they're gonna need him to play
at a high level. But the one thing that's probably
appealing to him he doesn't have to do all the
heavy lifting by himself. When you play on a team

(01:08:13):
for the Stars and you got Freddy Freeman and Mookie
Betts and some of the other guys that can hold
their own, well that's exactly what you want. Now I
can just come and play freely. That's appealing to some guys.
They don't have to do too much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
It's amazing, it really is. I mean, I just I
don't understand why the Dodgers are getting to blame and
not the player. But that's you know, that's going to
be the story. That's just gonna be the story because
the other teams you don't reminds me of that. I know,
it's a weird comparison. It reminds me of the Toush Push.
Every team in the league is upset of the Toush Push.

(01:08:48):
Why because they can't stop it and they don't do it.
So now every team in Major League Baseball is made
at the Dodgers because they're spending a lot of money
and they're winning. That's basically it's envious, jealousy and his stupidity.
That's basically what it is. Maybe it's a big jump
that I'm comparing the tush push in the NFL to
the Dodgers signing big contracts, but to some extent it
is the same. It's just jealousy and envy, that's what

(01:09:10):
it is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely some envy there because you know,
people don't like the fact that they have the cash
to be able to pay for these guys to make
it happen.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
But if you're a fan, you love it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
You always want to feel like your team is competing
to win the chip, like they are invested in trying
to win the entire thing. And you can't question that
when it comes to the Dodgers, man, they are all
in on trying to get it done because they're invested
in those pieces.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I think it's great. It's funny because again, I live
in the Cincinnati area. I mean, everybody's talking about NFL
playoffs and great games and what their team may be doing.
In Cincinnati, they're talking about the draft section area. They're
doing the mock drafts. I can't handle it. It's ridiculous.
I mean, we haven't even reached the Super Bowl yet
or the division championship games yet, and they're talking draft

(01:10:03):
draft picks. Ninth pick, ten pick, who are they going
to go after? Forget it? I mean, come on, I'd
rather talk baseball here to talk about draft picks. I mean,
but that's just what it basically is. The season's over.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
Here, yeah, I mean, the season's over. But mock drafts
are a clickbait. And even though we're doing mock drafts
without even knowing the coach in some instances as a
general manager, it doesn't matter. Fans want to see which
players are being tied to their team.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
The one thing that the league has done.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
And let's think about the turnarounds that are in the
playoffs this year.

Speaker 5 (01:10:37):
The Jags, the Bears, the.

Speaker 4 (01:10:38):
Patriots, all teams that had double digit losses. They right back,
They're right back. They want a division. And you have
this quick feel that, man, if we get a first,
a good like a couple of good players, we can
turn this thing around quickly and not only just get
back to the postseason, we might be a super Bowl team.
That's why the rabid fan base are consuming all the

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draft content that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Okay, I mentioned there's a coach that has an addiction. Okay,
and he took over a team with more losses than
any other team in college football. His name is Kurt
Signetia in Indiana. He is a creature of habit. Get this.
Every day of every week, he orders rice and beans
and chicken. He skips the rest of the toppings. He
has a slice of guacamole. His order costs him ten

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dollars and ninety cents, seven hundred and fifty calories at Chipotle.
He's got sixty four thousand points at Chipotle, which turns
out to about sixty four hundred dollars on burrito bowls.
It's unbelieved every day, and he's got an assistant coach
or a team manager that goes out and gets him
to lunch every day in Bloomington, Indiana Chipotle. He's going

(01:11:45):
to be doing national Chipotle commercials pretty soon. I'm sure
he is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
But he's very much like his boss and mentor at
one point, Nick Saban. Nick Saban, He's the same thing
every day, has a little debbies oatmeal cake at some
point over the course of the day. That's where they are.
They are creatures of habit. But you know this an
I'm sure in your preparation process because I see the
emails that you send when you come down with the

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rundown and those things. Look, every person who's great at
their job or their field, they have a routine and
some structure to how they go about preparing for the
day or going today. So for Signetti, his habits extend
beyond what he does when it comes to football. His

(01:12:30):
day is very regimented, scheduled. He likes what he likes
and that works for him, and it works for a
lot of different people who are kind of built like that,
those type A personalities. Sometimes they do fall into the
routine thing when it comes to what they eat, when
they eat, where they eat, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I can't believe you're comparing me to Kurt Signetti, which
is a column, but I thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
That's right, that's right. Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
I have a list. I have a list every day
and if I don't check out, if I go crazy,
I gotta do these crazy things every day. That's what
I do. I mean, and I send out stuff to everybody.
You know. I guess people at Fox Sports Radio know
that I sent clippings out to people. I mean, I'm
I'm a big consumer of the postal system. And I'll
tell you why I say that. And my wife gets
on me for that. She says, it shows your age

(01:13:15):
that you're ope you snail man. I said, no, no.
I met a guy yesterday. He's a publisher of a
nonprofit magazine and I sent the material and he says
he goes through one hundred and fifty emails a day
from nonprofits in the region. And I said, well, that's
why I kind of emailed to you. But I also
mailed to you in the mail, I said, A. It's
going to end up in spam sometimes, but b you know,

(01:13:36):
you don't have time to read it all, you know,
and when you get something in the mail, you're going
to open it just out of curiosity. You know. It's true.
You know, when I was on a radio every single
day back in the day in Cincinnati at seven hundred
WLW Radio, I would send a thank you note to
every guest that I would get on, every coach that
would go on with me, Bobby Knight, Serena Williams, you know,

(01:13:57):
whoever was on. I would send Bill Belichick. And that's
why he developed kind of relationships with these people. You know,
people take the time out there. I little thank you note.
I think it goes a long way. I really do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
So, Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
It matters well, I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Said Signetti a cigar A couple of weeks, cigar, I
haven't heard back from him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
But he's no smoking on Monday. He's no smoking on Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Great, he maybe he will. I hope he does. We'll
see what happens there. So we'll see what happens. All right.
We move on now, he's Bucky Brooks on any Firman.
We are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios, and
of course, the blame game is all right, the blame
game coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firmer,

(01:14:38):
and we have Fox Football Sunday. Fox Sport's ready about
twelve minutes before the top of the hour. Top of
the hour will be eight am on the East coast.
And you know what, the Swollen Dome himself, Mike Harmon
will be joining Greg Cosell on many of these saying
Fox Sports Radio affiliates at eight am Eastern time following
us today. But right now it's time for the blame game. Brandon,

(01:15:02):
it's you. Let's do it. You're not a liar.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Let's well, I'd prefer to be a liar if the
Niners had won.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
You know, you're like everybody, you're a homer. You're stopping already.
I mean, come on, your team lost. That's just the
way it is. You're upset that bucket, is it true?
He's probably more upset than half the players on the team.
All they want to do is wait till Tuesday when
pay day comes. I get that check.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Yeah, that's that's Unfortunately, you know, the unfortunate thing is
only one team wins in the end, so you know,
only one team can It wasn't yours, wasn't It hasn't
been my thirty years, So it's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Get football. Can I tell you something one set? Yeah,
I was with you last week when we talked about it.
Then I thought about it. I said, you know, I'm
an idiot because I hate the forty nine ers because
they beat the Bengals twice in the Super Bowl. All right,
And and there's a player and this is a true story.
There's an avenue in Cincinnati called Montana Avenue, And I said,

(01:15:55):
I wrote, I wrote an oddbed piece in the Cincinnati
Inquirer at the time that you take the sign down.
There should never be a Montana Avenue in Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
Sorry for.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
The PTSD you get from that. I wasn't alive during
those Super Bowls, so I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Not look at your history. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Well that's all we have in the last thirty years
have been failures, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
And last but not least, did you get the book
that was written? But my good friend walk Purty about
the San Francisco forty nine Ers, great book. I need
to get it go online. Used to be a sports
editor in the Cincinni Inquire that he wrote for the
San Jos Mercury News. He just wrote a book about
the forty nine ers. Get that book. It's a wonderful book.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I will, all right, So back to the blame game.
Football's king ever wonder why other sports don't get you know,
the radio sports talk radio ignores hockey, soccer, and to
some extent, baseball. Who do you blame for that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Bucky? Let's go Bucky first.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
They ignore me because they don't rate. No one talks
about them, like the numbers of the numbers when you
look at the number is for NFL games and what
they draw twenty to twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:17:03):
Million viewers on any game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
They can't do that, So it's not a lot of interest.
Even though we act like we're interested, we're not because
our view and habit show that we're more interested in football.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Football is key.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
The real answer is this, and that's a nice politically
correct answer and statistically it's correct. The reason why they
don't talk about it and they don't even give the
scores on TV at eleven o'clock because these announcers can't
pronounce their names. They can't pronounce the soccer stars names.
Or the hockey players' names because they're half of them
are French or European, So rather than look like a fool,

(01:17:37):
they just ignore it. That's the real reason.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
I yeah, I do think baseball and soccer are getting
more popular the last few years. But obviously football is
king in America. The NBA was playing games in Germany
speaking of international in England the other day. They want
a global footprint. Why don't they try and clean up
the game here, like perhaps extending the three point line.
It's getting out of control. Who do you blame about
the officiating and the rules in the NBA in the

(01:18:02):
current NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Well you got to go to the commissioner, okay, And honestly,
there are so many problems locally. I mean, you know,
the players sitting out and also this three points the
other day, I think there was a combined like ninety
three three point shots taken. What happened to the game
of basketball? That was a beautiful game. It was like
poetry in motion. The Golden State Warriors have it going
at a time they kind of went away from it

(01:18:24):
a little bit. Golden State, but I'm talking about the
old Celtic teams with the weaves I remember Bill Russell
once said, we only have six set plays. That's what
he once said. I mean, right now, they have no
set plays. You go to the park and see the
kids do the same thing the NBA is doing, even
of threes. It's disgusting. Hey, Adam Silvas, bring it back
from Germany, bring it back from England. Clean up the

(01:18:46):
game here, please.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Yeah, the game is just different. It's just not an
entertaining game to watch. It's a lot of three point shooting.
Everyone is trying to play the same style. There's no
like playing style, so it's hard to like match up.
So from a tactical standpoint, everyone just looks alike. It
does a matter if your team is hitting or not.
It's just not an exciting product.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Accept the Pistons to Detroit. Pistons of count basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Detroit Business might win a championship this year. I know, right.
Miami University of Ohio is eighteen and zero in basketball,
not ranked in the top twenty five last week. Who
do you blame for that? That seems ridiculous to me.

Speaker 4 (01:19:23):
I would say lazy voters not being able to pay attention.
They are undefeated. I saw they won eighteen or whatever.
Nineteen in row. Yeah, they should be able to get
some love. I mean they're probably going to replace my
targets in the top twenty five this week after we
lost to cal and Stanford and back to back games.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
So yeah, they beat Buffalo in over time last night,
said in nineteen and oho, you know what, I'll tell you.
You can talk about the voters, but the voters have
to be given the information who the teams are and
what they're doing. I blame the PR guy. I'm a
PR guy at heart. I blame the sports information guy
at Miami. Get the word out, Get the word out.
I mean, Travis Steele's doing a great job. He could
be coaching the year and it'll be coaching with your

(01:20:01):
team not ranked. How embarrassing would that be? Really?

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
And by the way, that's Stanford. That Stanford combo guard
is nasty. Great college player, very very good player. But
North Carolina will be fine. They got a top five pick.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
All right, you got anything else? Because I don't know
if we have any time. I don't think we have
any time either. Do what do you guys got any
final words of wisdom and Brandon, get some tissues out
and cry if you want to It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Next year we'll win the super Bowl. It's fine, well
you think.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Always next year.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
I don't worry. Draft starting to morrow on tape.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Got that in tape, No doubt about that, all right,
coming up next week. Got Greg Cosel at the swollen
door of Mike Calmon right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Stay here, keep it locked.

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