Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Talk NFL Preseason, Quarterback Battles, The WNBA’s Cycle of Drama, Jayden Daniels LSU Beef and Much More!

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Speaker 4 (00:59):
Going on in what's having him?

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Well, it's football time right now, so, like you know,
I'm in a different mode. I really am, But I
got I gotta talk to you a little bit like
some serious business, if I may.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
This serious business.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I mean, I'm watching the game I watched on Thursday night,
and I got to ask you after I scratched my
head and watch this game, and I hear Dan Campbell
saying that if he has to play this game with
the Detroit Lions without a quarterback against Cincinnati, he's gonna
do it because Jared Goff didn't play.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
All right, So I'm saying, what does it all mean?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
This preseason stuff? Why even watch it? And what are
the coaches get out of this? I guess they're just
evaluating talent to see who's gonna make the team. The
Bengals on Thursday night, squeeze by, squeeze by the Detroit
Lions sixteen fourteen, without Jared Goff even playing a minute,
all right. So, and the fans are wagging their tails

(01:51):
on Friday morning, Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
The whole thing. I love it. I love that people
are upbeating, happy, that community is happy. But what does
it mean? I mean, Amaya Debbie downa tell me.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Well, I mean, I guess with all context, I will
say that preseason games don't count, but they certainly do matter.
And the reason why they matter is because the vibe
that you have about your team coming off of the
preseason really sets the tone for how you approach the
regular season. People are taking different philosophical approaches to the preseason.

(02:25):
Some guys are pointing all their eggs and the joint
practice bucket where they have a joint practice a couple
of days before the game. They play their starters against
the other team starters, They have live looks, use all
the exotic schemes that they've been working on throughout the offseason,
and then they leave the preseason game to the young
guys to backups the guys that are fighting for roster spots,

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the bubble guys, and that gives them a chance to
evaluate those guys, utilizing a simplistic game plan to see
who can play well when they can play fast and
free from clutter. That's the overwhelming approach that the majority
our teams are taking as relates to the preseason. It's
not fun for the fans because you don't see your stars,

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but what it does do is it helps the team
get all the work that they want to see in
a very competitive environment. But it's control because the quarterback
is in life. That's why you're seeing more teams lean
towards that.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, And the one thing I don't understand, and you
talk about preseason, about exhibition games in baseball, these guys
are always playing the regulars. Player will get pitchers may
play you know, anything or two, but they're playing.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I think the whole key to sports, at least in
my mind, is to have a unit knowing what they're
going to do. With playing as a unit, playing is one,
all right, And when these guys don't play on preseason,
the first two games of us maybe three in the
regular season is the.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Time just to get to know one another.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's the thing I don't see the advantage of preseason.
If the regulars are sitting, I get why they do.
You don't want to get them hurt. So why even
have preseason?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Got to have a preseason because you're trying to get
your team amped up and ready to play, meaning you're
trying to ramp them up. You're trying to have an
acclimation period, not only to physical football, but you're trying
to get them ready for game conditions. Now, I know
you and everybody else, just like everyone screams from the
mountaintops about the All Star Games and those things, like
they want to see people operating at Super Bowl pays

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from day one, it's not going to happen. It is
a build up game. There's no one that comes out
hitting the ground running and they sustaining for seventeen four weeks.
What you're doing when it comes to building your team,
you want to play your best ball down the stretch.
You want to be playing meaningful football the last eight
games of the season. You want to be ascending as

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you get into the tournament. It's not going to happen
for you out the gate. But if you do not
have your starters, your star players, when you get to
the start line, you have no chance. Think about the
teams that have really lost their seasons before it started
because their quarterback gets hurt in the preseas, it's not
worth it. So what people are doing is, let's have

(05:03):
a practice against the team that we're playing in the
preseason game. Let's allow that practice to be our preseason game.
Because the energy and the intensity and the physicality is
all there like a game, but your quarterback is live.
That's why people want to do it, and that gives
you the benefits of all the things that you would
normally get in a preseason game. Now we're just doing
it on a practice field instead of in the stadium.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Okay, I understand what you're saying. I get that, and
there's no problem there. So if that's the case, how
come they don't have any preseason games in college for
college football.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I'm not saying that college football is a perfect product
when it comes out. Last year, we got excited because
we saw Florida State knockoff Alabama. Does that mean that
Florida State was going to be a good team. No,
because at the end of the year we saw how
Florida State was not a great team. It's the unknown,
and the unknown doesn't always mean that it's great. I
would say that college would benefit from having some jamborees

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or scrimmages where they could get some sparring again before
the real fight, but that's just not how they want
to operate in their space. I don't think college gets
it right anymore than the NFL gets it right when
it comes to the preseason. I think you have to
figure out what's important to you as an owner as
a coach. Is it more important for us to entertain
the fans during the preseason or to get our team

(06:17):
right to play their best football when it kicks off
in a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You know, I hear you saying.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I watched Hard Knocks the other day and I'm watching
the Seattle Seahawks and Mike McDonald's over there on the sidelines.
He looks like a very low key kind of guy.
Didn't cuss merch much. But when I saw one of
his guys, one of his defensive guys, go after the quarterback,
he went nuts. He went nuts in practice, and he
put him on the sideline. He benched him during practice.
So I see what's happening right now. But some of

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these guys have so much adrenaline, good in them, so
much guy. And then he said they want to show
what they have to offer. I guess in preseason when
they got on the field, I mean, all hell breaks loose.
I mean, they can't control themselves. But McDonald just went nuts.
Stop practice to get on the sidelines. He says, hey,
you know, we have a quarterback over here. We need him,
and I was amazed to see that on The Hard

(07:07):
Knock Show.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, I mean, the quarterback is everything. If you lose
your starting quarterback, your eyes have continue to be a
playoff contender or title contender look slim to none in
terms of your ability to be able to overcome the injury.
And so that's why we treat the quarterbacks with kid
gluffs and practice. We don't allow you to get close
to him. We don't want you to touch him. We

(07:30):
don't want you to be in their sightline because if
a throw leads to the guy hitting a thumb on
a helmet and that fractures his thumb and then he's
out or changes the way he has to throw for
the rest of the year, it's detrimental to the team.
So you want to treat everybody as if they're equal.
But look, the starting quarterback is different. The starting quarterback

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is playing the position that is the most impactful on
the bottom line wins and losses. That's why you want
to make sure I get my quarterback everybody, that I
have my star players to the start line, because if
I get to the start line and then things happen
after that, so be it. It just wasn't our year,
but as much as I can control it, I want
to make sure that my best guys start this season

(08:14):
are available and ready to play.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, and speaking of the quarterbacks, let's get into this
to number one pick the overall dress selection, Las Vegas
Raiders rookie Fernando Mendoza. You know, I said, coming in here,
number one looks like number one. I get it, it's
still at too early to think that, but he was
somewhat impressive. The Raider is lost though to the Arizona
Cardinals twenty seven to fourteen, but it was Mendoza was
what ten for sixteen ninety seven yards and a touchdown

(08:38):
in just four drives, So I guess, you know, the
first time out showed a little poise. I think that
did some promise it with Mendoza. I'm not making a prediction.
I don't know I can I don't have that football eye.
But he looked pretty impressive I thought in the first shot.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah, I mean, not bad for a first game, and
I think that's all you're hoping for coming out. The
first preseason game is the most generic and basic of
all the games. You're gonna get the base coverage, You're
not gonna get a lot of dis guys, not a
lot of exotics, so you know exactly what you're facing
and you should be able to decipher the defense, make

(09:12):
good reads, keep the offense on schedule because you're playing
football one on one. As we progress and get into
week two and week three, you'll begin to see more exotics,
more game planning, more things designed to shut down the offense,
not just so much a let him play, Let's just
figure it out. See who looks good, who can run

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to the ball, who gives to effort, has the energy?
Mendoza was solid. He executed the game plan the way
that they wanted to plan. Execute it great. Next week
he'll have a little more on his plate. How does
he handle with more on his plate? This is not
an open competition, This would be one that if he wins,
he wins the position by default, not by out playing

(09:54):
Kirk Cousins. But he needs to be solid every time
he gets a chance. We can under trust of his coaches,
but yet more importantly, the trust of his teammates.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right and speaking of quarterbacks, let's look at the Pittsburgh
Steelers right now. Obviously Aaron Rodgers didn't play, but the
Steelers beat up on the Packers twenty eight to nine.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
I know what that means.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
But juelr with ten for thirteen, one hundred and fifty
three yards. This kid was great at Penn State. And
I think there was some question walks now, but maybe
Mike McCarthy is the guy. Maybe Mike McCarthy is molding
this guy into somewhat of a talent. I think it's
going to be maybe the number two guy on the
Steelers had two touchdowns of that game.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, he was really good. Now going all the way
back Mike McCarthy and I have history with him, played
for him when he was the quarterback coach for the
Kansaity Chiefs back in the day up on the Paul Hackett.
He is a big believer in what they call quarterback school.
It is something that started at Green Bay before he
got there, but he kept the tradition going, meaning they

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would have dedicated time in the offseason to develop the quarterback.
So that was in extended endo drills that he ran,
that would be in extensive film sessions with him where
he's teaching them how to play the game, how to
recoverage in those things and what we're seeing not and
from Drew Aller. But from Will Howard, the young guys

(11:13):
were thriving under Mike McCarthy. And why is that. It's
because he spent more time on task with them, gave
them more reps, gave them critical feedback, continue to dig
into their footwork, their fundamentals and those things because he
expects the quarterback, no matter what string you are, no
matter how often you've played, or the reps you've gotten,

(11:36):
he expects them all to operate at the championship level.
And what you saw is young guys rising to the
standard that he's established in that QB room.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
All right, speaking of the quarterbacks, go back yesterday the
Bears beat up on the Browns thirty four to ten.
But Shadoor Sanders comes in there, and I don't know
what's company with the Brown quarterback situation.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't think they know either.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you know, you had a quarterback who had not
played by two years, Deshaun Watson, and he looked decent.
I mean, you couldn't tell he was gone for two years.
I think right now, if you're looking at the quarterback
race in Cleveland, Deshaun Watson maybe having a little bit
of an edge Overshoe Door.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
I would say that, and that was to be expected
when DeShawn Watson is healthy and then an offense that
plays to a skill set he can play. Now, it's
been a long time since he has done that due
to injuries and suspensions in those things. But when he
played at Houston, there is no doubt you ask anybody,

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he was a top five quarterback. It's a long time
since then, it's fight five years we're talking about him
playing at the four years since he played at a level.
But Todd Munkin was going to put it in an
offense there was more shotgun base that relied on him
doing the things that he did so successfully at Clemson.
Managed the offense, be efficient, get the ball out of
his hands, trust to playmakers. That's what happened. That's what

(12:57):
happened in Chicago. When he was in the game. He
got the ball out of his hands, He trusted the
playmakers to play maker in turn made big plays and
it's a feeding frenzy. And so even though the numbers
look robust, he didn't do anything outside of just play
the game, take what the defense is giving up, and
then allow your playmakers to go. Punish them for playing

(13:19):
such soft coverage.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Help me out over here for a second.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
With Zach Taylor, the coach of the Cincinnati Bengals and
the offensive team on the Bengals, they claimed that they
want Joe Burrow to play more under center rather than shotgun.
What are the advantages disadvantages. I would think that you
have a better view of the field and shotgun right,
but it takes longer. You have more of a shot
of getting hit by the defense under shotgun. Is it

(13:43):
more advantageous for a quarterback to be under center? What's
the difference?

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Well, under center allows you to really tie the run
game where the pass game in meaning play action, and
the most effective play action is when the quarterback turns
his back to the defense and then he bootleg boot
legs out the back door or he takes a deeper
drop and whips his head back around to find the
void at the second level. What we're seeing now, Cincinnati,

(14:11):
you're talking about want to get under center with Joe Burrow.
They want to be able to run the football. The
run game is critical under center, and that illusion of
the run game sets up the offense for big plays
in the passing game. So you have to run it
enough where they have to respect it. You also have
to run it enough where they are threatened by it,

(14:31):
leading and exposing big plays on the perimeter. Zach Sayler's
trying to get Joe Burrow to tap into some of
the old school things that work well and that have
always worked well in the league. And those things can
only be explained in a notebook.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
All right, we'll see what happened. Speaking of the rung game,
what about you know Jacksonville Jacks. He had a running
back to Jamari Taylor. He was looking pretty good in
the second half, I mean yesterday and the Jack speed
up on the Saints twenty four to twenty.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, but I would say that the score is different
in the way that game played out. The first half,
the New Orleans Saints were all over the Jaguars. The
Jags were struggling offensively and defensively, given a big plays
in those things. The New Orleans Saints looked great. Defense
was solid and strong. They got good reports about their
defense doing the joint practice sessions. They just elected to
play the backups and two sets of backups playing and

(15:20):
early on the Saints young guys were really handling the task,
the responsibilities of being the leader the young guys struggled
for some of those things in terms of just getting
used to the speed of the game angles tackling the
important situational awareness, but solid started for both teams. Jaggs
came away with the win, but I know there's a

(15:40):
ton of corrections that take place to help this team
have a better performance next week.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, here's a shocker. I mean, I really shocked that
the guy is even playing. The Vikings speed up on
the Giants yesterday thirteen to ten. But Odell Beckham Junior
came back with the Giants, who was at Medlife Stadium
in a Giants uniform for the first time maybe about
eight years. He caught a couple of passes for six
yards And to me, you know, being away for eight

(16:06):
years and coming back, I think if you have Maybe
I'm wrong because I never played the game, but if
you just have the skill that God given ability to play,
you're gonna play. I mean, you know, obviously practice is
great because you want to know the teammates, you're with
the playbook and whatever it may be. But if you
have the skill, you could play. I mean, you played

(16:27):
the game right, you were born to play. When you
went on the field. You weren't confused. You knew what
to do. You just got to learn the plays from
the coaches that you played for. But if you could
play as O'Dell Beckham junior. Can He went up there
yesterday like he never missed a beat.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Look, he's down to player one of the more talented receivers
I've ever seen. He was doggedly determined to get back
to the Giants and he wanted to be able to play.
He wanted to be able to finish off his career
the right way. He's worked hard, He's been diligent with
his work habits. Have an opportunity to watch him workout.
He goes look, he gets after it. Since he's been

(17:04):
with the Giants. You see the practice clips and you
see how he goes about it, and you can see
the professionalism that he's approaching the game with. That is. Look,
there's a lot of value in what he brings. And
as long as he continues to be who he's been,
a quiet leader and unsung hero in that locker room.
Given his approach and his practice habits right now, Joe

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Shane and John Harbor have to be pleased with what
they invested in.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, and sticking with the New York market. This New
York Jets team might be the worst team in the
National Football League. I mean, obviously that the longest team
in North America not to go to a playoff. Gino
Smith has heard with the ankle. So they got this
quarterback who was a Kate Klubnick, who was playing a
fourth round pick yesterday. I mean, what's the deal with
the Jets. I mean, why cannot take it out of
that hole? I don't understand. I mean, people were picking

(17:52):
like New Orleans or Arizona to be Miami Prize maybe
the worst teams in the league. No way, it's going
to be the Jets. It Jets right now could very
well be the worst team in the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
I don't know, man, I think that remains to be seen.
I think there's some contenders as we talk about worst
teams in the league, and I think you, however, whatever
your order is, whether it's the Miami Dolphins, the Jets
to Tennessee Titans. People talk about the Browns being bad.
Arizona Cardinals are still trying to find their way. Yeah,

(18:24):
there are plenty of alternatives in terms of trying to
figure out what you're looking for when you have one
of these situations where you're doing a complete makeover, you're
looking for progress. You're not looking at the scoreboard. You're
just looking for progress. He can we get eleven guys
running to the ball consistently? Can we make proper angles
to make sure that if we missed the tackle, someone

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else is in position to make it, based on how
we're running to the ball, based on how we're trying
to cap everything off. Yes, it's a challenge, and you
sure it. But everything is obvious, say trending the right way?
Sure is?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I tell you why? One last say what did you
take away from the first week of preseason? Anything that
kind of hit you say, Wow, I didn't think this
would happen.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I would say the young quarterbacks that are showed up.
There are a lot of question marks about these guys
that were in this quarterback class. Like we talked about
Drew Auller, another one was Carson Beck, who had a
really solid debut during the Hall of Fame game a
week ago. You saw Tyd Simpson much Maligne much criticized.
He showed up and showed out against the Kansas City Chiefs,

(19:33):
and people would dismiss it because it's the first week
of the preseason. There's a lot of generic and vanilla looks.
But whenever you feel your young guy play like that,
you want to continue to keep that confidence in them.
Let's see how they adapt and adjust his playing time
to make sure that he maintains that positive feeling heading
into the regular season.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Sounds great.

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I gotta kind of close this quarterback situation out with you,
if I may, we talk about the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
You look at that quarterback trio right there.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
To get to Dickton Dayton in a minute, they got
Jacoby Brissette, Gardner Minshew and Keton Slovis Okay. On Thursday
night against the Raiders. This combination with something like twenty
six for thirty for two hundred and twelve yards at
three touchdowns. You know, could it be that maybe the
Arizona is going to have some life this year. I mean,
Brissette could get the job done, but they got a

(22:20):
pretty good trio off quarterbacks, and I'm shocked.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I'm shocked what they did on Thursday night.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
I think you want to keep it all in perspective.
They did look solid. Mike the Food has done a
really good job of preparing his team to understand his
offense and the execution that you want to see Jacob
Brissett in that offense was rolling. A lot of it
had to do with Jeremiah Love run the football effectively,
talking about Gardner Minshew jumping in. And then the week
before we saw Carson bek have a very, very solid performance.

(22:49):
I think you have to give the credit where the
credit is due, and that's the coaching staff. They've done
a really good job of preparing these guys to be
ready for the preseason. But it'll get more difficult, more challenging,
more realistic as we continue to progress. Week two of
the preseason as much different than Week one. We'll see
how these guys respond to some new things. But if
you're the coaching staff, you have to be pleased with the.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Progress and last but not least kind of a downer.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
If I may Tennessee Titans qulled about cam Ward, I
would say he did not look that good. Missed a
couple of several open some open throes. He missed there
five to twelve fifty seven yards and last year's obviously
number one pick. I said, as a question mark out
there with cam Ward.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Look, I'll say, like, keep everything in perspective. Is never
as good as it as you think, is never as
bad as it looks. You just want to roll with it.
Cam Ward is learning a new offense, he has a
different coach in his ear and Brian dave Ball. Brian
dave Ball can be harsh and critical when it comes
to the play because he's trying to do those things
to maximize the talent that you have. But cam Ward

(23:53):
is just a different bird when it comes to needing
the time to develop. And so we just have to
have patients and we got to wait for it to pop.
There's no doubt he's too good, he's too talented not
to seem to succeed in the league. We just got
to make sure that they give him the right scheme
and the right people around him to be successful.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
All right, Dick for Dayton, Good morning, Dick. How are
you you're up a little early today?

Speaker 8 (24:20):
Well, good morning Andy and crew.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
How are you see you got to say good morning
to Bucky too?

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I mean, come on, he's right, I'm sorry Bucky.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Hey, Andy, I thought the Bengals started to but them.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
They didn't look too bad the other dying.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I didn't want to mention this.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I didn't want to mention this, and maybe Bucket could
help me out of this. I was a little concerned
with Orlando Brown on that line because he let a
second stringer get by him and kind of bounce Joe
Burrow on the ground on his butt. You know, Orlando
Brown maybe has better days of behind them.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Let's let's give him some time. But I was a
little concerned with Orlando Brown.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
Oh okay, the Reds.

Speaker 8 (25:01):
They can gain a little hope and they win a
little bit more game, but they started disappointed everybody this year.
But I enjoyed seeing you at the Benton Maller get together.
It was a pleasure, Andy.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
The pleasure is all mine. It really was.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And I appreciate the call. Appreciate your loyalty listing all
the time, Dick, Thank you so much. And we move on.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
All right, Bucky, Let's switch it for a second.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Talk about basketball, just for a second, because the NBA
released this schedule just the other day and October twenty,
October twenty, if they got a ring night for the
champion of New York Knicks, they got play in the
seventy sixes. It's a primetime game. It's a pretty good
deal because you got Lebron coming in Philadelphia. But on
Christmas Day, that's the real battle for TV time.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well maybe it's not.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I don't know, because do people really care about the
NBA in December. I'm not so sure they do. Maybe
gamblers due, but I think it's still football. I just
don't think the NBA has a shot on TV that day.
No matter who they play, we'll tell you in the
second who they do well.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
It used to be a big deal in the NBA.
That was kind of like the kickoff to the NBA
season because football was dying down. You're getting into the
tournament not as much interest. So this is a great
time for the NBA to kind of make their move,
and they try to do that and ultimately short but
this is exactly what you're trying.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
To do well.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
The NBA has five games, five games on Christmas Day,
Spurs Knicks, there's a rematch of the championship, okay, Celtics
seventy six is Lakers, Thunder and Warriors.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
And you got talent, you got names, you got named plays.
But the NFL has a game on Christmas Eve, the
Texans and the Eagles that's gonna be on Amazon. And
the NFL on Christmas Day has a triple header. And
I don't care who's playing. It doesn't make a difference.
The NFL is gonna win because they always do win.
And that's the heat of the seasons. Packers Bears, good game,

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Bill's Broncos excellent, rematch with malays Year's tournament.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Okay, and Rams and Seahawks. Real good game. So the
NFL in twenty twenty five, I look this up.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
On Christmas Day, they averaged twenty two point eight million viewers,
the NBA five point five million. There's no comparison. No,
I don't know if it's the sport. I don't know
if it's the timing.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't know what it is. But football rules and
just just the way it is.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And I would go one step further if they had
three college football games on Christmas Day, that would outdraw
the NBA. And I love the NBA, but you know,
there's a time and a place for everything, and Christmas
is just to me a little too early for NBA.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I hear that, But it's always been a tradition. It's
the official turn to page moment for the NBA. What
it's changed is the NFL has decided they want they want,
like Christmas to be a part of their blueprint, part
of their footprint. So it's challenging. You got to make
sure that you have markete matchups, you have market matchups

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in the right spot, and then you got to try
and said it like, look where Can I set the
games up for success, meaning the windows, the time blocks
to get my guys the best chance to see the stars,
you do all of that. Can you make a schedule?
Then you just hope the schedule stays firm.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
You know, I would have to think there's enough fans
to go around. But as far as people sitting down
on Christmas Day to watch NBA games, in five games,
that's a lot of games in one day.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
But I guess it is a choice factor.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't know. But again, I mean, gamblers love it
and that's just the way it is, and gamblers love
football too. I'm just just you know, we'll see what happens.
But I just I feel for the NBA because you're right,
they own that day for the longest time.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
They did.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
And then the NFL says, you know what, it's not
a bad day, let's move in, and they did. And
you know, some people might think it's the wrong thing
to do, but it's business. It's all about business.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
That's the way it is. And you know, the NFL
has the business they really do, all right.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
We got Quinn Quinn from Oakland says something about you
being a godfather here, Bucky.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Is that true, Quinn, you're on with bucket l Hey.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
What's up? Can you hear me? Okay, what's up? What's up?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Andy? From Mean?

Speaker 8 (29:07):
He had a great so always like listen to you.
I always wanted to talk to you, Buckie Brooks. What's up?
Man left your career and everything? Hey, but I wanted
to ask you were you Did you ever play with
my party Nickerson? Over all the same team? How did
you play against him?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Played against him? Never played on the same team with him,
but knowing very very well, great player.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Okay, Yeah, because no, I was saying because my eighth grade,
eighth grade teacher that was her son, and he came
to our school and opened He's like, y'all, oh my god, kids,
you know when that's when he was playing with Tampa
Bay and stuff. But I don't know, So you never
played with Tampa Bay? Okay, I just wanted to play.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, I never played with Tampa Bay. But no, Hearty,
really really well, We've done a bunch of different things
in the past together, Nike camps. He's a head coach
in Southern California down at Jason right now. After winning
a state title that bishopbo dow Uh in San Leandro.
So this is a guy who is all ball, all
the time, not only a great NFL player, but one
of the best coaches that we've seen in the high.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
School up really though. Yeah, he was a great guy.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah for real.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Yeah, and went to caw too, you feel me?

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (30:20):
All right, but oh but I once, uh on once
they oh and y'all, what's up with y'all? Was just
talking about about all ye about the Christmas saying good.
I don't know, do you think that the NFL is
just getting like just like too greedy for their own good,
like where they gonna over saturate the whole market, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Like, Look, it's tough. I think, I think exposure. You
gotta be careful limits some of the exposure that you
have because there will be a negative black backlash. But
the game is too popular right now. I understand, Uh,
you shouldn't slow down, but I mean everything, I mean,
it is everything right now, the urgency, the passion that

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it elictits from fans. Uh, you want to take advantage
of that, and sometimes it means a very packed stadium
with some of neighbor friends and all the other people
showing up to watch and support. Yeah, but the NFL
is king and it shows up in the ratings and
the tickets and everything.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
One more thing, if I want to ask you about
the about the Raiders, you know, what do you think
about about about like, uh, today's like startman those or
with the Browns that they have the doors starting? What
do y'all think?

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I think with the Raiders, Kirk Cousins as a starter,
I think with Tom Brady's influenced that I'm trying to
sit him as long as they can let him grow
into the position. With the Browns, I think, look, Deshaun
Washston has the inside track. We'll see what Shudur does
when he is expected to start next week.

Speaker 5 (31:59):
You know.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
So you have some of those things, but I think
those are the two main things that everyone's looking at.
We saw a Minnesota name, Kyler Murray the quarterback early
in the week. So yeah, that's where we're at. We're
at football. The takeover is coming.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It's here.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Takeovers is right ready here? Quinn, Thank you so much
for the call. Have a great day, Quinn.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Thank you. Be well. Hang in there, you know, Bucket,
it's funny he mentioned the question about is the NFL.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Kind of like being a bully, so to speak, taking over.
You know, I've always believed less is more, and certainly
they're going to play eighteen games eventually, because I don't
think you want to stay with an odd number of games.
They got seventeen games right now, but if there's going
to be a limit, when the bubble's gonna burst. And
the point of the matter is it's a great game.
It's great for gambling. Obviously, people play fantasy football, they

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gamble on the games. That's a great way to get
to know the players. But I think that after a
while it's gonna be you got to stop. You just
can't keep on going. They're never going to play twenty games,
I hope, you know. And the key with less is
more is that every game means so much. That's the
problem with baseball. You know, you play a team, the
Dodgers will play the Astros perhaps in April. They're playing

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begin in July, and the playing begin in September. You know,
it means so much every one game. But if they
keep on expanding, I think it's going to hurt them.
And I think this playing overseas doesn't do much either,
because a lot of these players are going, Hey, players.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Don't like it.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Number one, I don't think and I don't like to travel.
And number two, fans are losing a home game and
they don't want to do that. So I think they
got to watch what they do be very careful.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, no, I mean it's a very very slippery slope,
and some of them Mark Cuban has talked about can't
kill the golden gooseen So they have to find a
way to be aggressive with what they're looking for monetarily
while maintaining the integrity of the game. That's the challenge
young guys who haven't received money all of a sudden
they get money, it can be a lot to overcome.

(33:58):
And then when we talk about like the arrogance of
the league itself in terms of what they put down,
how they put it down, and how they refuse to
budge only only, I mean, like it just is something
that is that fine line between doing enough to placate
all the people that want to see more and then
not doing too much. Decking money to waters.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, And as Quinn did,
he called up to find out some answers. We're gonna
do that right now because he never tuk a question,
because he has all the answers as Bucky as next.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
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Fox Bus Radio students.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
But JP, are you ready? Are you ready? Always am,
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let's do it.

Speaker 9 (35:01):
So Bucky, it's all football questions today, and I want
to start off with it seems like the shelf life
for coaches in the NFL keeps shrinking and shrinking. So
what coaches do you see as being on the hot
seat this season?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Mm hmm, it's tough. I would say right out the gate,
Aaron Glenn is gonna be on the high seat. There
are people that are coming after Todd Bowles. There's going
to always be a bit of a surprise. I think
Zach Taylor can finally get the heat this year because
it's I think the last year of his deal. And
then I think you just have to always wonder about

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the random guy that can be fired for no reason,
so you look at ownership. I would just keep an
eye on like a team that is near the top.
One more mm hmm, dang it, give me, give me
a minute to finish that last one. There's one other
guy that's something tip of my tongue. I can't remember

(35:57):
right now.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Dan Quinn.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Maybe dan Quinn. That's the obvious one. That's you, Yes,
dan Quinn, Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
All right, Zach Taylor. Then I'll make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
Now I mentioned Zach Taylor, so I threw Zach Taylor
out there. Dan Quinn was the other one because I
knew it was somebody else. I'm forgetting.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
All right, great answer. The next one. We kind of
touched on this with the Christmas talk. But the NFL
plans to play games on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and
obviously Sunday this season. How, if at all can this
hurt the product?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
I can't. This is never a bad thing when it
comes to too much football. People love the product. You
look at all the highest rating things it can't. It
won't hurt it like this. I only do wonders for
the NFL because if you can get it on every day,
people will watching every day. We saw that during COVID.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You know, I'll let me throw it if I may
excuse myself here for a second.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
JB.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know these players, aren't they conditioned like Sunday one
o'clock Eastern? Does that throw everything off kilter? Because even
with coaches with practice time and things like that, does
that kind of throw the thing out of whack?

Speaker 4 (37:14):
No, not at all. I mean, like people used to
adapting and adjusting is not that big of a deal.
I think you just get used to when the day
is during the week. But the schedule is a schedule.
You always adapt and adjusts.

Speaker 9 (37:27):
As we all know, the NFL is a quarterback driven league, Bucky,
I want you to give me your three quarterbacks under
the most pressure to perform this upcoming season.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Look, man, I think Lamar Jackson is under a ton
of pressure. Josh Allen is under a ton of pressure.
People have mentioned Jalen Hurst. But let's throw Justin Herbert.
I saw Justin Herbert laying in the corner of the
end zone after practice with the googly eyes with Madison Beer,
and the first thing I thought about, Oh, it's over.
He looks like a high school guy get his first girlfriend.
So justin Herbert, who is under formed in the playoffs,

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now that he is all bowed up with Madison Beer,
I think he is under a lot of pressure to
get it done and show that he cares when it
comes to getting to his guys at the next level.

Speaker 10 (38:12):
Bucky, I have a quicken for you when it comes
to the preseason and brand new players on a team,
whatever team it is, how hard is it for the
new guy to come in, even though he has his
college of mind to come in and understand the playbook
when it comes to pros.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Oh, it's tough depending on where you come from, how
you do it. That's why the scouts have do a
really good job of understanding the aptitude and the ability
to learn. But it's challenging because it's a different system,
different techniques. You got different teammates. You go from being
the big dogs and now your little puppy trying to
get on the porch. Completely different mindset and everyone doesn't

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have that dog mentality to make it through. And that's
why you see some of the guys that are top
picks kind of flame out.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
You know what if I mate jump in for a second.
That's the reason why, at least in Minnesota. The excuse
they gave why JJ McCarthy is not going to start,
they said he didn't know how to handle it. He
didn't have like the I guess, the the emotional right.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Did the emotional maturity to handle it right? He did not.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
JJ McCarthy acted out, He pouted, he sucked. And one
of the things that you're looking for from your young players,
how do they handle a versity, because how to handle
any little bit of adversity is going to be magnified
when you get to the game. He didn't handle it right.
He didn't play like a professional. Yeah. I think ultimately
that hurt him far more than whatever Cala Murray did

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as a performer.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
And they said they couldn't handle it the huddle. They
said JJ McCarthy could not handle the huddle.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Wow, I mean it's a lot, it's a lot of
different things. And he's a newbie, and depending on how
he's wired, is he humble enough to kind of go
downderre get under these and and learn or are there
other things that play? Yeah, ultimate, you got to be
able to do the work. You got to be able
to hand the workload.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
No, it's all good. So this is probably the last one.

Speaker 9 (40:08):
And maybe this is just coach speak, but after number
one overall pick for Nando Mendoza made his debut and
look pretty good, their head coach Clint Kubiak seemed to
change his tune about the starting role before it was
Kirk Cousins, is this locked in, definitive starter? And then
he said it's Kirk's job to lose Bucky. Do you
think that the Raiders regret jumping the gun and naming

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Kirk the starter?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
No, I don't think they regret at all. Because Tom
Brady has always talked about the developmental problem with quarterbacks
in the league. This is something that would alleviate that.
Let him sit on the bench, let him read shirt,
let him learn away from the scrutiny to the public eye,
and then when he's ready in you two, let him
have at it.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
How much, sorry, Andy, how much do you think or
how serious are people taking what coaches are saying right
now in press conference?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
How much is it? Is it real or is it
just coach speak.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Look, I think a lot of it is just coach speak.
Sometimes it's real, but a lot of it is just
coach speak. You're trying to be authentic, you're not trying
to lie to the people, but yeah, sometimes you get
it out there and you just kind of regurgitate a
whole bunch of words.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
All right, there we go, pretty good as Bucky today.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
By the way, these games may not count in the
standings coming up, but we're gonna tell you why they
have meaning they really do. We're gonna do that and
so much more right here on Fox Sports Sunday coming
up right here next.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Don't go away. All right, here we go. There's three
weeks enough time, is it? Well, that's right around the corner.

Speaker 8 (41:39):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
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Speaker 3 (41:55):
And don't ever stop there. No hit that thuns up.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I kind of comment the way, know who takes you
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a coach, he's a scout, he's a writer, he's a
talk show host, he's a TV star.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
He's my partner, he's my friend. He is Bucky Brooks. Harry.
You take about.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
What's up? Andy?

Speaker 5 (42:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (42:26):
You tell me?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Okay, Now, I've got a couple of questions for you,
because I love that you're here, because I could really
get up close and personal with inside football information. You
played five years in the National Football League, and we
talk about some coaches holding out players, some coaches playing players,
whatever it may be. Jared Goff was nowhere to be
found Thursday night in Cincinnati. I don't even think he

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suited up. I don't know what's going on. He didn't
play in that Dan Campbell's situation. But you played five
years for different coaches.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Tell us some of the.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Different philosophies on preseason the coaches that you played with
and for.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, it depends there's some guys that subscribe to the
theory a I just want to get them ready to
go for week one. There are others who believe in
having a tough training camp to get them prepared to
not only get to week one, but to thrive and
flourish the week one. Andy Reid was one of those guys.
He watched him develop into from a tight end coach

(43:21):
to a quarterback coach to then have his own team
in Philly. He went from doing things that were the
packaway to being able to just have some changes. And
so those are some of the things that we did.
Marv Levy. We didn't have heavy practices at all, very light,
but it was a veteran, veteran laden team with the
vault of Hall of Fame type players, and so you
could do that. So everyone takes it differently, but the

(43:43):
things are consistent. You got to show up, you got
to give great after, you got to have the right attitude,
and we got to figure out a way to build
the team. Team camaraderie is everything when it comes to
wind then losing, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I read the book the Late Paul Brown, Great coach
in Cincinnati, Cleveland, Rounds of Coach Dotto Graham and look
them up you could find out who he was. But
he believed that practice should only be forty five minutes.
He just felt that, you know, after that time, you
just you lose concentration. You can't learn anything else forty
five minutes. But it's a different era back then, because

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they had two days that eight week summer camp, so
it was just a completely different animal. But how long
would the practices.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
When you played, So it depends. When I was in Buffalo,
practices were anywhere from seventy five to ninety minutes, not
long at all, right, And then there are times when
I played in Kansas City it was three hours. A
lot of it depends on what your objective is. Can
you be efficient? Can you get in and out? Do
you believe in your players enough that they don't need
to be on the field all day, that you want

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them fresh and ready to go, knowing what they're doing,
being able to play fast, but not bogged down by
all the mental clutter or even some of just the
clutter in general that can slow a player down.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, I'll go back to Hard Knocks.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I watched it the other day, and that had like
a team meeting the facility they show like a video.
I cannot believe how creative these coaches are and they
put these creative situations together. I had like a so
called guy reading the Bible football Bible to the players
and I really enjoyed it. And I don't understand how
they get the time to do that. Do I have

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a separate staff that puts that creative stuff together on video?

Speaker 4 (45:22):
A little bit of everything, like you have to have it.
You have to make sure that you have everything lined
up because it is such a video thing that yeah,
you got to have. You got to give people access.
You got to let them put things out that the
put you to invest like and then go forward.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Okay, two weeks more Togo in preseason? Is that enough
time for these new coaches? Is it enough time for
new players to learn new systems? And is it enough
time really to judge personnel to see who's going to
make the squad or not?

Speaker 4 (45:52):
You already know what you're doing. I think right now,
going into the game, we have fifty three spots. I
would say it's only about five of those that are
in jeopardy, you know, And so you just put that
out there, you let them know you can keep the
best player. You try and look around and see who's
progressing those things. So, but it's a lot, a lot
of things going on at one time.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Okay, my last question, I promise that we're gonna get into. Okay,
which is the best learning situation a daily team practice,
preseason games or when they have those intersquad games like
when Chicago would play Kansas City in the preseason.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, preent, I mean, that's that's that's part of what
it is. And if you can't get some of those
intersquad things done, you have a better feel for what
it's going to look like.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I want to talk about the preseason battles for position,
all right, and the key ones right now, and let's
talk about maybe quarterbacks all right. Atlanta, you got Michael
Pennix junior. He wants to work his way back from
that to acl which is pretty tough. And the Falcons
also have Tuur all right as the number one option.

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TWOA said he wasn't too please with his performance the
other day. What's happening in Atlanta? Does Michael Pennix have
the upper hand? I got to believe that anytime a
team trades or goes after a player, that player's going
to get the deal.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
All right. When Kyler Murray got.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Moved over to Minnesota, I knew JJ McCarthy's days were numbered.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Because that's why you get the guy. You get the
guy to play.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
So I think Tua eventually will be the starting quarterback
in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
I think he's gonna get first crack at it. Michael
Pennis hasn't been healthy enough to give it to him,
so I think by default he'll get first crack. Be
how he performs could lead to another situation where in
week four, all right, like it takes over.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay, I hear what you're saying now, and I wasn't
really shocked at all. But when Kyler Murray went to Minnesota,
because I know we're getting Kyler Murray, that means you
don't want J McCarthy. Why would they get Kyler Murray?
So McCarthy's out. The question here is what's the future
look like for JJ McCarthy. If he's outside of Minnesota.
There's gonna be a lot of question walks on. JJ
McCarthy's gonna be like somewhat like a Baker Mayfield and

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no Man's land. Then all of a Sudden's got to
work his way back and prove himself.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Yeah, I mean there's always that, but you always have
to have your mindset ready to prove yourself. So, yeah,
he's gonna have to work himself back. But there are
plenty of teams that have kicked the tires on a
guy that was a former first rounder. They make sure
that the price is right, but they'll kick the tires
and see if he has anything. If he's salvageable, I
would think yes, but I don't know him well enough
to make that comment. But if he's salvageable, then a

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team will kindly give up a fourthront pick to get him.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
All right now, the true battle for quarterback I gotta
believe is gonna be in Cleveland, which your do a
standers and Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Okay, they each will start a preseason game.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
And Todd Monkin right now, he's gonna look at both
of them, and I guess right now, Deshaun Watson has
a bit at the upper hand, and I don't want
to see him get the job. I want you to
do a standers to get it. Think I think the
team would be better served if should do a stand
This was the quarterback, I really do.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
So how does this going to work? How do they
do it? How do they split? And how do they
do it in practice? You know with reps?

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I mean, how does one team if he's not playing
on one the first team, he's not going to get
the reps as the other guy's gonna get.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
You gotta split them up. You got to script him
out and every day scripted you know how many throwers
you're gonna get, And you try and continue to have
a rotation in a cycle that at the end of
the camp everyone has the same reasonable them like, so
you try and make it as stacked as you can
to help them.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
JBA, you got a question over here. I know you're
busting at the gills here.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
I do.

Speaker 9 (49:41):
Yeah, from my vantage point just as an observer, and
you see all these training camp clips and even in
the preseason games both to Shaun and Shador look pretty bad. Bucky,
do you think that this is the worst quarterback quarterback
situation in the league? Because when I look at it,
and you look at how these guys are playing, how
they played last year, it's a very tough spot to

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be in.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, it's very tough. I won't call them the worst
because we haven't played any games yet. We don't know
what that offense looks like when Todd Munkins calling it
for real to those things, but they're not at the top.
There are other guys that are being more efficient in
those things, but it takes a while and we don't
have typically patience to wait for people to kind of
go through the growing pains. But they're gonna be some
growing pains associated with the softening because it's all new.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Why would you say they're the worst. I mean I
think that New Orleans may be right up there too.
I mean, Miami, who do they have? I mean, I
don't think Cleveland's the worst at all. I mean, you know,
you got Deshaun Watson who basically been there, done that.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Can he do it again? That's the question, and you
should do It's got some talent. So I don't think
they're the worst.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
JB.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
I really don't. They could be down to the bottom,
but not the worst.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I think they're the worst. I think the Jets are worst.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I mean right now, I mean Gino Smith basically hurt
and I never was a big Geno Smith fan, you know,
I mean coming back to New York I don't know
if that was the greatest move in the world.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, I don't know. Like, I think it's tough. I
think it's so tough early to judge him with look
a new coach and new system in those things. But
I think you keep an eye on. I mean, you
can kind of tell that the week six if you're
halfy or not.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
All Right, I got some other battles in the preseason.
I will see what's going on. Talking about the Browns
right now, they had some wide receiver battles right there,
Cedric Tillman, Jerry Judy okay, Denzel Boston Okay. So again,
obviously these battles on the wide receiver and depends big

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time on the quarterback, right. I gotta believe that Jerry
Judy's got the lead on this deal. I mean, just
the fact that he's been there, done that.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Yeah, I mean, Jerry Judy certainly has that. And you
don't want to rely on two rookies to be the
kind of like the focal points of your offense, even
though Casey Conception you on and Denzel Boston are terrific.
I think this comes down to the execution. Who can
take care of the football, Who can do it the
way to Todd Mankin wants it done. To me, I
lean heavily towards Deshaun Watson just because I feel like

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Todd Mankin believes and Deshaun and he's gonna give him
every opportunity to show that he can play in this league.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
How much would management come over and tell the coach,
you know, I'd like to see you give Deshaun Watson
the giar the gig because maybe the amount of money
were paying him, does that ever come at to play?

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Nah, I shouldn't come into play. Whatever you pay him
is whatever you pay him. Who plays is determined about
what you do in between those lines, and you have
to keep it like that. If not, you lose your team.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yeah, I think you do, right.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Seattle Seahawks looking for a running back right now? Okay,
Jaderien Price, Emmanuel Wilson, all right, and they're hurting for
a running back. I think obviously they need one badly.
I can't believe that they need a running back, but
you know they need one.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
They do. I mean yeah, I mean, like everybody like
it's important, it's underrated. You got to have a dominant
guy in the better to back, the easier it is
to pass so different, but yeah, you gotta.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Do it, all right, Okay, who on the running back
situation in Seattle with Price and Wilson.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
No, I mean, I think people are excited about pricing
what he's shown, but you still don't know if he's
ready to be at one. So you gotta wait and see.
You gottait and see how these handles hands, those special
moments did they pull? He said together, they pulled apart?
Like all that camaraderie, chemistry, all those other things. Does
he have all that? That's TVD great?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
All right, Now I'm looking at a wide receiver situation
in Miami. Uh, Caleb Douglas, Kevin Coleman, Malik Washington. All right,
Obviously I feel bad for those guys because there's not
much of a quarterback situation. They have to help those
guys out, So I don't know who's gonna win that.
They got some big problems in Miami.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Yeah, they get some big problems, and it's hard depending
on how you staggy days, you work time and those things.
You're trying to sort through everything at the house and
lock in and focus and concentrate. Naturally, they're cann probably
regress them a little bit. You just can't maintain the
same kind of enthusiasm that you have with forty guys,
you know. Like so, I think this would be a
situation where you have to continue to monitor it, you

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continue to set short goals, and then as you hit
these milestone checkpoints, you kind of change and rearrange the
team and the approach as you see fit.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I think of Cincinnati, and I'm looking over here in Cincinnati.
The edge rush is a big situation where it's gonna
be some battles to seel bikes. This book called Miles Murphy,
Shamar Stewart, and Cassius Howell. I don't know how you
make a decision on that, but I think Miles Murphy
may have the lead on that deal. Maybe I don't know,

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Shamar stup Bro, I'd go with Miles Murphy.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I mean yeah, I mean Murphy probably has because the
experienced part of it. But they haven't The bottom line
is they haven't been good enough and they need to
fix that, need to get more production from those positions.
Otherwise it's gonna be hard for them to compete in
a very tough division that is upgraded upgated personnel of
graded things. So they got to make sure they have

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enough people to impact the quarterback. Because you can't impact
the quarterback, you're gonna slay you all day long, all right.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I want to go to the forty nine ers for
a second. Obviously there's some questions in their secondary knows
doubt about that, but you know, more than that, I
think there's questions and the injury factor that team is
like snake bit and is there any reason why?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Is it just a coincidence? Is it bad luck? Is
it the trending staff?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I don't know why, but there is injury upon injury
it seems every season in that ball club.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
I mean, I think that's to me another question. Some
of them are random, some of them are a maybe
overuse injuries are the soft tissue those things? Every year
a team stall udies itself and you try to make
changes to improve UH and give yourself the best outcomes
when it comes to health and safety in those things.
For whatever reason, UH designers have just been snake bitten

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by the injury bug. I mean they just can't shake it.
But you know, it's one of those things that go
back to work. They're trying to change and tweak their
practices and their approach, but there's a random nature to
some of the stuff that they can't control.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
All Right, we gotta call it in Berkeley.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
John from Berkeley wants to talk to Bucket Brooks right here,
I'll fox bought some other. Hello, Johnny hell is going on?

Speaker 8 (56:39):
Hey, can I make us? Can I make a statement
and ask two questions? Right quick?

Speaker 5 (56:46):
You?

Speaker 8 (56:47):
Hey? Andy?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
You all right?

Speaker 8 (56:49):
School? Andy? You made me think about some when you
when you were saying about, uh, there's the owner and
somebody come down about like who's making the most money
and who's the plaint that I'm remember back in the
day with the Raiders and they said that Al Davis
got so mad because he didn't want Marcus Allen playing

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in the game and he ended up when the runner
back got hurt and he ends up coming in the
game and scoring the winning touchdown.

Speaker 11 (57:16):
And he was still mad, and you know, on the
real that was crazy though, like that was his last
touchdown last season with the Raiders. But then the question
I wanted to ask, tell us what do y'all think
about with like with these news things like they taken
you know, like with the new stadiums. Well they didn't

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taken like O. J. Simpson name off and Leon already
taking a Grooden name off. And then oh and Buckie
as a player, I want to ask you, what do
you think about that Super Bowl? Like do you think
that was sebritize? I'm going back on the day like
I'm a Raiders man with through Bowl thirty seven, you
know the Callahan and Gruden like seven retarding that for

(58:01):
Am Davis and stuff. This wild, you know, because Rudney
already said that Robbins had showed up like hungover and
stuff before against the game against Tennessee and he's little.
Let him play as long as he new to plays
and stuff. So y'all got it great, So I just
wanted to know it. So I thought about that. Man,
y'all have a great morning.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Well, you throw out a lot of information. Let's go
with Buckie first. What do you think about the I
don't think anybody's sabotaging any Super Bowls? So you fuck,
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
No, I don't think you're tabotaged in Super Bowls anything
like that. I think you're trying to do the best,
uh that you can for the team in each and
every situation, you do it. I just think some of
the times these things are tough. And I got to
say this, teams have more information than we have on
the outside and so that can also impact it. But
it is always about trying to build the best team

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that you can be ald to have a look, a
dash for the cash, as we say, build a team
so you have a dash for the cash and get better,
you know, inside out done a line.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Okay, he did mention the kind of the ring of
honor so to speak in Buffalo with the new stadium,
and they kept the OJ Simpson's name off there. I
think that's a crime.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
I mean, I get it. I mean the guy ended
up in prison.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
But the point is, I think you have to separate
his skill, what he performed as a football player as
opposed to what he did after life.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
All Right, what he did as a football.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Player was tremendous and he has to be all. You
can't forget about him. You can't forget about the guy
that look. Pete Rose situation very similar in the sense
that he didn't kill anybody allegedly. But they're talking about
Pete Rose going to the Hall of Fame, right, gambling,
of course, which is a no no in sports. But
the point is he got those hits and they're talking
about putting Pete into the Hall of Fame. So I

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think that it's very difficult for people to see that.
But you have to separate the athletic feats as opposed
to what he has done as a person.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Don't you agree?

Speaker 4 (59:55):
I mean, I do agree. I don't like the way
that they treated to oj thing understood it. I don't
like it. It does it a bad precedent, and you
have to be able to explain it like that's the thing.
Explained some of those things to the masters so they
won't get mad at their favorite player when people start coming.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Out, Yeah, it's you know, I think that go all
the way and put every player in there that play
the game that's deserving, or forget it all, don't even
do that deal. And I think you've got to think
it out pretty good before our team decides to do
sort of a wall of fame or a ring of honor.
Before you do that, you got to say, wait a minute,
We've got some questionable characters here that have played and

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have gone on to some bad things after they finish
their playing days. Should we continue this, should we do this,
or maybe just drop it and not even do it?
That's the key, you know. But I think O. J.
Simpson belongs up there, I really do. He played for
the team and he did well. He did real well.
All right, last question before we roll on, Who's gonna
have the biggest impact in their first year this year
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Fernando Mendoza or Carson Beck.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I will say that's Gor Mendoze, number over our pick.
He's gonna get a bite of apples. So that's Gor Mendoze.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
I'm with you because I think Mendoz is gonna play
more than Beck.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
That's the reason.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Yeah, that's what I went, That's what I anticipate.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
There we go, all right, he's Bucket Brooks. Get him
on Twitter. We call it x at Bucket Brooks at
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Berkeley at eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
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Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
A in this hour the playing Game of Nour number three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Obviously we're broadcasting live for the Fox Sports Radio studios,
and of course Chaos rules daily here, no not at
this show we'll tell you where next. All right, attend,
This isn't an all time high, but so is hate.
We'll get to that in just about a minute. Come morning, everybody.
This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Raadyways, Bucket
Brooks and Andy furmanwere live from the Fox Sports Radio

(01:01:56):
studios and we got y a ona in about ten
twelve minutes from now at Bucke. I was mentioned in
the last segment about you know, battles on various teams,
a quarterback battle, and that's the big battle. I guess
Cleveland's the big one deer and Deshaun Watson. But we
did mention the running game in Seattle, and I think
we got to take a little bit of a closer,
magnifying look at that game and that running game in

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Seattle right now because Kenneth walker went out to Kansas City,
which I was shocked. The guy who went the Super
Bowl you want to probably want to run it back.
He was a free agent. He goes to Kansas City.
How shocked are you? I mean to me, if I'm
a teammate of Kenneth Walkin's scratch my head, say, man,
what are you really doing?

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
We just won a Super Bowl. Why are you bolting
to going to Kansas City?

Speaker 8 (01:02:37):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Money talks and if you can't get the money from
the original place, once you win the ring, it's about
getting paid. And that's what he made a smart decision
to do. He'll have other opportunities. Think about Pat Mahomes
and how he's been able to take a squad that's
held together with duct tape and still make them contenders, Like,
you want to have that opportunity to go against light boxes.
You want to have that opportunity to be the focal
point potentially of an offense. So it makes sense to

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me why he did it. Now he has to make
them right by playing at the level they didn't even
play it to kind of validate the money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Yeah, and that had a pretty good one two punch
in Seattle lest year with Walker Zach Shaubene. But shab
And they had that two on acl and the left
knee and the divisional playoffs last year against the forty
nine ers. So what they did they draft to note
today running back Jadarian Price, who I think is going
to get a lot of carries this year because he's
the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
He's got to fill the bill, right, That's it. They've
drafted him in the first round.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
Yeah. I mean, like when you talk about like drafting
in the first round, like you're trying to feel the bill.
And so if you go and we talked about Seattle
specifically Jaderian Price like being able to be a workhorse.
Now he's a nominally an outlier, gathers the backup player
drafted in the first round, and they felt like he's there.
You had to be interesting to see how they were

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the percentages because it just has to sew. It has
to be a little more. Does have to be fifty
to fifty, but sixty forty would be great.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
There you go, all right, now I want to get
some potatoes over here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
I want to talk about the WNBA, as we normally do,
because every time we talk about that, it gets hot
and heavy and it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
It really is. That's talk about chaos, chaos in the league.
That's easy. Yes, the WNBA.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Would we be talking about the league the WNBA to
w if there wasn't much chaos?

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I don't know. Maybe perhaps a lot of great players
in there, but we never talk about that. We talk
about the chaos. The positives of the league.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Listed some positives attendance right now an all time high viewership.
It's up fifteen percent from last year. Of course, there's
more games on TV, so I guess the viewership would
be up. Many teams obviously have some household name recognition,
and the Fever coach Indiana Fiver coach Stephanie White, she
was booed booed the other day introduction for the third night.

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And about the transgender issue, I mean, to me, every
heart foul, every no call seems to trigger a league
wide controverty and sometimes with racial situations. Any player comments
about transgender athletes have become national news, even though there
is any single transgender player in the WNBA. I say,

(01:05:13):
what the heck is going on in this league? And
why is this commissioner not taking a hard stance. And
it's funny because Adam Silver right now is kind of
comment things, so to speak, which tells me, which obviously
the w WNBA is funded by the NBA, but it
tells me that I think Kathy Angelbrooks days could be
numbered if Adam Silver is kind of like moving in

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on her turf.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
H yeah, I mean, like obviously, like you just talked
about the league and how moving in on different people's surf,
and we've talked about it. We've talked about just all
the different things that the league is doing, trying to
bring in revenue, all the global receipts that they can use,
putting those games on like W three NBA games, I
mean W three NFL games. But that's just kind of

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how it goes. The league is going to continue to
push the envelope that and keep pushing the envelope until
someone tells them know that they can work away around it.
The one thing that you do hope is that coaches
sometimes don't fall prey to that and they make decisions
for the well being of the player and the team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I would say this the league would have preferred, I think,
to make headlines for different reasons. There's no doubt in
my mind. When Cat and Clock was drafted and she
arrived in twenty twenty four, that was a big deal.
Popularity increased. They added three franchises since twenty twenty four.
I think there's more on the way. The league is
set to increase to eighteen teams by twenty thirty. They

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have a three point one billion dollar broadcast deal. But
certainly all these positives are kind of put in the
background with the hate and the hard call fouls and
the fighting and this transgender stuff. It's crazy. And I
don't know how it's start and why it started. And
more than that, I don't know how it's gonna stop.
And you mentioned it last week. I remember that some

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of these guys are just grandstanding who say they want
to play in the W because it's never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
They're just doing it to get clicks and get somenovariety.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Yeah, I mean, like it's all ridiculous, Like all of
this is ridiculous, Like Royce Wright all these other guys
declaiming for the W. It is silly, you know. And
it's a discourse that is meant to distracteds from the
chopping her hand. Like, I mean, that's that's all it is.
It's it's gainsmanship. Is TV is Yeah, I just see

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it as a TV deal.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I don't understand why ball players have to defend their
coach after her coach. I don't talk about Stephanie Wilson
in Indianapolis's boot. I mean, and she's giving a monologue
obviously about why she's defending herself after some critics contend
that she didn't show enough support for Sophie cunning Hand

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when Sophie took a hit across the head in the
neck last week and in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
I never saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I never saw coaches booed. I mean, you know they're criticized,
but to be booed at introductions, that's crazy. Is it
a different kind of fan base that attends to games
in the WNBA. Then we have another sporting events.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I have never seen that in my entire years of
watching or going to sporting events. When they announced a
coach's name at an intro, it's usually somewhat applause if
it's a home game, maybe a little somewhat booy maybe
if they're visiting team. But these are out and out
booze at a home game for the home coach.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Don't get it. I don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Yeah, it's a very interesting situation, Like all of it
is so unique. So we talk about like just where
we are when it comes to the league, where we
are when it comes to like just kind of doing
the self check, and I go back, because I've talked
previous segments about Mark Cuban warned the NFL to be
careful about killing off the golden goose and doing too

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much and making sure the decisions that you make are
for the good of the league and the good of
the thing. When I work and I continue to work
for the Nation Football League, we always talk about protecting
the shield, and so you just have to make sure
in every level and everything, the things that you're doing
are for the good of the team. And you can't
allow your ego, you can't allow other things to sway

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your decision making process when it comes to that. And
I think all these situations that you bring up are
small microcosms other bigger thing. What are we doing to
make sure that this is the best move for the
team and if it is proceed if not, we got
to figure out different ways. And so where they're talking
about quarterback battles, position battles that are outside quarterback, where
we're talking about like coaching and hot seats and those things.

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That's the goal, that's the premise, that's what we have
to operate on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
You know, I laugh when I hear about this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
U more, I guess you could say more publicity, more
exposure from the WNBA on ridiculous garbage than there is
in the NFL. When the NFL has a duy situation,
domestic violence situation. Just the other day, I believe Seattle
signed a guy who was cut under the Detroit Lions

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at back a defensive arrest here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
Right, no big deal, no big whoop. I mean, no
one's complaining, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
But in the WNBA, a coach says one thing about
a lack of defending a player, she gets booed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Why is that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
I mean, you would think that people would go ballistic
for signing a guy who was arrested, and no one
said boo.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
I don't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Well, I think a couple of different things. I think
you have bad faith actors that are directing the conversation
when it comes to the WNBA. Right, So all these
dudes that are declaring in his canter voiced White, all
these guys that are saying I'm a declare for the WNBA, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,
like no one expects them to and if they do,

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no one expects them to play, and they won't let
them play. But it's just another way that they can
hijack the conversation around the league because the league doesn't
have clear statements that they want to exclude a certain class,
like they're trying to kind of find things within the march.
So that's what it is. It's disappointing. It's disappointing all around.

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The w has been really good this year, like really
good in terms of gameplay, really good in terms of
like the emergers of superstars that are not the aforementioned ones.
But here we are stuck with enough controversies to get
to have those conversations.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Let's talk about Kaitlin Clark for a second. Okay, I'm
not putting her in the same league as a Steph
Curry or Lebron James, but basically the visibility aspect is
very similar. Okay, what do I mean by that She's
a spark? I mean Lebron could be a positive or
a negative, but he sudden at times he's looked as
a villain, which are good in sports because people go
about to see them, they either applaud them or they

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were against them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Okay, but let's talk about the Kitlin Clarke situation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Her critics say she's a complainer, her critics say she
deserved all those seven technical fouls this year, and when
she picked up the eighth one, the league said we're
not going to give it to her. She's okay, she's
not going to get suspended.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
That was a joke. That was a big time joke.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
But the supporters of Caitlyn Clark, they argue that she's
been unfairly targeted by opposing players who are jealous of
her attention.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I don't get it. I mean, and that's the key
right there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
I mean, the garbage that is going on with Caitlyn
Clark has created a big to do and there are
some players I'm sure in the league that are jealous
and visen are better players than her. She and you
ever mentioned this.

Speaker 3 (01:12:46):
I agree with you. She's not even the best player
on the Indiana Fever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
Kelsey mitchells Kelsey Mitchell, without question is Kelsey Mitchell's is
straw that stirs a drink.

Speaker 8 (01:12:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Kaitlyn Clark is a big part of what they're being
they're doing. Leah Boston is another big part of it.
But yeah, like there's it's not just a one man show,
and sometimes our conversation around the Heat the Fever gets
to be about the one man show, the star study
of things. So everyone needs to be challenged to do better,
not only the people that are tasked with writing at

(01:13:19):
the headlines, people that put it out there and kind
of tease it out for the world via Twitter, all
those things, like I just want to make sure that
you're irresponsible. But look, I do not envy Stephanie White.
She can't get right. She does one thing that's philosophy.
People are on her because she's not playing Clark. She
sits down, it's not playing it. Like, the hope is
that some of these people get legitimate opportunities outside of

(01:13:42):
kind of like the bubble, so they can be appreciated
for what they really bring to the game and how
they contribute to the game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Are you talking about Stephanie Watch. She's a hometown hero.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
She played high school basketball at Secret High School, which
is right near Indianapolis. It's like close to Purdue really
in West La VIEPA. It's pretty close to Indianapolis. And
she was the state's leading scorer career scoring leader in
girls basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
She's a hometown hero and they're booing her. I don't
get it. I don't get it. That would be like
booing you in North Carolina, right.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
It would, yeah, But it's because everyone is hijacked it, right, Like,
is some of the fringe Kayln Clark fans who've kind
of taken over the situation. Some of the people that
are using Kaylyn Clark as a political pawn, I've created
some of these things and trying to create more division

(01:14:32):
by putting these things on, trying and pitting people in
the corners or their side. So all of this is
just unfortunate for the WNBA that it appears to have
negative connotations, but it actually might be positive because more
people are paying attention to games throughout the time instead
of just waiting for the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
I think the league might liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
I mean they'll say it behind closed doors, they would
admit it, but I think they like it was the
exposure is tremendous. It really is not positive exposure, but exposure.
His exposures, no doubt about that. All Right, we move
on right now. Because he's Bucky Brooks. I may be Fermaner.
We are Fox Sports Sunday of Fox Furs. Ready, you
go up, you go down, you go right, to go left,
but we go yay or nay and it's next. All right,

(01:15:14):
it's time for yay or nay, And that means it's
time for JB.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Are you ready jb.

Speaker 12 (01:15:20):
Yes, I am okay, rack those brains, gentlemen. These stories
need an ass I think we need a ruling on this.
It's yay or nay, Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
And by the way, we're live from the Fox Bus
Radio Studios JP take it away.

Speaker 9 (01:15:35):
I got you, Andy, and we'll start with Bucky on
this one. Lebron James Son is on the move, not
his real son, his space jam Son. Bengals undrafted rookie
and former Nebraska defensive back sire Wright is leaving the
team because he took a lead role in a movie.
He's slated to return upon completion of filming. Yeah your nay,

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Bucky Andy answer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
I think buckets in shock, I really do. Uh you know,
I'll say yay. I think that's kind of a chance
in a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Really go in the movies?

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I think it's permission if it gets permission, of course,
but I think that I would do it. Wouldn't you
do it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Get a shot to go to the movies?

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
I mean he was on the roster bubble. I don't
think he was making the team, So.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
That would be almost as big if my next door
Nayor got a folk call to be on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
You know what I'm saying. It's a big deal, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
It's a huge deal. It's a huge deal.

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
I'm one hundred percent taking that, especially when my chances
of making the team already very slim.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Right, bucket you ready, I'm ready. All Right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I understand nature call. Sometimes I get it. It's okay,
that's why I wear a dip.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
But when I do the show, Okay, Yeah, that nature
wasn't calling a vestic connection up?

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Okay, all right, next, Ah, he's going, let's fucking gets
to the question.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
I gotta I gotta tell him what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:17:07):
So, but Bucky, I was talking about former Nebraska defensive
back Lebron James Sun and space Jam sire Wright. He's
with the Bengals. He left the team because he got
a lead a role in a movie. Yeah your name?

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Uh, yay, that's good for him. Say you're right, who
is from LA I think he played at Loyola, he
did high school. Yeah, it's a big deal for him.
So if he has an opportunity to be a lead actor,
you can't turn that down because he has to weigh
the pros and cons and being the football player versus
the active it seems like acting is going well.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
You gotta go pursue that one hundred percent. Moving on,
we'll start with you on this one.

Speaker 9 (01:17:42):
Bucky, a forty four year old fitness influencer, broke a
world record by running one hundred miles on a treadmill
and then in a time of twelve hours and forty
seven minutes and ten seconds. Ashley Paulson beat the previous
record by an hour and a half. Yeah, your nay,
And a bonus question, how long would it take you
to run one hundred miles?

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
I wouldn't run one hundred miles. I would walk one
hundred miles. If I was gonna do anything. The bed
didn't happened either, I would say, yay, fasty, that's great.
Put in mind something a goal, did it finished? It great?
Not my jam, But I have a ton of credit
because it takes so much patience to do that on
a tribunill.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
I would say nay twice because you gotta got something
better to do for twelve hours and running on a treadmills.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I mean yeah, no. People with mere come on, you
wouldn't do it either. One hundred miles in a treble
left out of your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
I mean, really, get a life this, Ashley Paulson, I mean, really,
is it that important?

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
One hundred miles on a treadmill twelve hours? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Come on, that probably is her life.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I bet she weighs more than eighty pounds.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
You think, I don't know? After that, there's probably nothing left.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
There's nothing left.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah, eight definite, twelve hours on a triuble. You gotta
be out of your mind. You'll get a good psychiatrist
for her.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Get a life, right, Andy, back to you on this one.

Speaker 9 (01:19:03):
The Kentucky man done to blindfold and assembled a mister
Potato Head toy with the record breaking time of seven
point nine to two seconds. Connor Shaa broke the record
for the fastest time to assemble potato heads blindfolded, a
record previously held by German serial record breaker Andre Ortolf,
who achieved the time of twelve point eleven seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Yeah, your name, you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Know, I gotta give it yea because it's a blind person.
It just, you know, the fact that he's just creative
enough to do this. I mean I give him a
big time. Yeah, that's a yay. You gotta give him
a plus for that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
I couldn't do it out of blindfold.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
That's funny, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Could you do it without a blindfold?

Speaker 8 (01:19:47):
Book?

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
I could not. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
I mean no, I couldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even
try it either. I won't try it. No.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I think both of you guys could do it. I
think you're underestimating it. I don't know. Oh how difficult
that is.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
No, I would do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
I'm not playing with mister potato hit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
I'm not doing it fair enough?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Could you do it? Could you do it? Big shock?

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Could you do me?

Speaker 12 (01:20:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
All right, good, I'm just saying I gotta at least
try it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I'm not trying it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
That better things to do fair enough?

Speaker 8 (01:20:19):
All right.

Speaker 9 (01:20:19):
We're gonna dive more into this later in the show,
but I'll keep it simple for this question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
Yeay or nay? On retiring college jersey numbers, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Boy, I say yay, but it doesn't matter because they
retire and still leave them active. All of it is
a lot, But yay usually retirement, but it needs to
be for something that is highly decorated, like has been
trophies unanimous. Wouldn't Player of the Year stuff?

Speaker 8 (01:20:49):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
It needs to be clear and obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
Heisman.

Speaker 13 (01:20:52):
You say, yeah, yeah, huh, yep, you know, yeah, I say.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
This, you know, I say, yay. But do you retire
like a team if they're like a national champion?

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
I don't know. I mean, I like the retirement of numbers.
I think it's a big deal. I think tradition means
a lot. That really does in schools and in any school,
high school too. I think retire high school number, it's
a big deal. All the time they do scorer whatever
it might be. I think it's big. I think it's
a big deal. Well, we'll get into that later. As
you say, all right, but there's nothing but a numnt.
This is a numbers game. It really is. I will

(01:21:26):
tell you all about it and more where on Fox
Sports Sunday coming up right here next. Oh can one
man be bigger than the entire team?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Canny?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Well, we're gonna tell you all about that in a
couple of minutes. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and Many Fermana.
We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by
the way, if you missed any any of today's show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
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(01:22:15):
going to introduce the man of the hour, the man
who knows football more than anyone. I promised I probably
would never lie to you, the one and only Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Here he is.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Yes, thank you very much, thank you. Well, I tell
you you know what. There's a big deal today.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Today is the sixteenth of August, and our good executive
producer reminded me it's August sixteenth, and on this day
three icons passed away, not not in the same year,
but on the same day. Get this, Babe, Ruth, Elvis Presley,
and Aretha Franklin all passed away on the sixteenth of August.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
And how do I know that? A?

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
JB told me? But B I just read a book
written by John Soirillo. John Sirillo is the former pr
guy of the New York Knicks. He's a good buddy
of mine. We're both from Brooklyn, and he sent me
a copy of the book.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
And it's eerie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
It's an eerie book that Babe Ruth, Elvis Presley, and
Aretha Franklin all passed away on the sixteenth of August.
How do you like that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Freaky, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
And I thought for sure, I thought for sure Mark Magic,
Mark would play some Elvis music today, but he did not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
All right, maybe he will.

Speaker 8 (01:23:25):
Be for Raby.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
So I just wanted to run that by everybody. All right,
but let's talk about this. There's always a story about stupidity,
all right, and sometimes I'm involved in it, but not today.
There's always a story about stupidity, and this is it. First,
it's a numbers game. How important Bucky Brooks is a
number to a football player. I mean I'm hearing stories

(01:23:47):
sometimes even on the level they're paying players to using
our number.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
Yeah, I mean it's really important. I mean, like some people,
the number is part of their identity. I mean, for
very reasons. You have that number for me? My number
coming up in high school was twenty two, twenty two.
The date is my birthday. It also was my dad's numbers,
so it meant something to me in that regard. So

(01:24:15):
I had it a few different places. The Packers Jacksonville
couldn't get a Kansas City couldn't get it. Harvey Williams
headed in Oakland. But your adapting adjusts. But yeah, the
number is big.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Okay, question is this?

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Did you want for to pay those guys to get
twenty two? Because I've heard stories that players pay other
players to get a certain number.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
Some people will I didn't. I wouldn't, but nor was
I at that level to be able to do it.
You know, if you if I was maybe a star
and I had cash to throw around, maybe a little bit,
but nothing crazy, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Now, and back in the day, until about several years ago,
numbers at least in the NFL were signed by position.
You know what quarterbacks were like usually sing digits are
low double digits. And now anybody could get any number
they want. So how are numbers assigned in the NFL
to players?

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
How they do that?

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
I mean, look, the equipment manager does a lot of it,
and it is by position. Certain things have to fall
within certain categories. It's changed a lot, but there's still something,
some rules and guidelines that you have to abide by.
So offensive linemen can be fifties, sixties or seventies. You know,

(01:25:31):
you think about your linebackers and all that stuff. All
those things have gone by the wayside everywhere else. The
only ones that are true the offensive lineman, and then
all the guys that can touch the ball have to
have like those numbers outside of those fifties to seventy
nine numbers. Beyond that, anything goes.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Really Okay, here's where the stupidity part comes in. Jayden
Daniels seems to have a problem with his uniform number
at the school he less played for, which is LSU.
Former LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels. He's upset, reportedly that his
number five jersey was reissued while Joe Burrow's number nine
remains untouched in baton rouge and retired. All right, that's

(01:26:15):
the one deal. First of all, he's got to move on,
get it over with. I mean, why are you even
worried about that? Worry about the NFL season, which is
right around the corner. Who's giving him his advice? It's
the stupidest thing I ever heard of.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Really.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
I think there are a few different things. Because everyone
has beaten Jaden Daniels up about this number five thing. Whatever,
Let's take it from the player's standpoint. Let's just talk
about notable accomplishments, right. So, if everyone who has won
the Heisman Trophy at that university has had their number
either retired or paused, meaning that they haven't been giving

(01:26:53):
it out, then if you're Jayden Daniels and you most
recently had the Heisman and brought some notoriety to the school,
you feel the certain way if you look up and
someone is wearing the number. Joe Burrow's number nine is
not active, but yet his number five is active. And
I know people don't say, yeah, but Joe Burrow won
a national championship, etc. Great, that's cool. I get that

(01:27:13):
Heisman Trophy is the most prestigious individual honor that you
can win in college football. And so if the precedent
had been said that once you win that the number
is inactive. If his number is active, I do understand
why he feels that way. I also understand that they
made promises to a younger player that is coming in that, hey,

(01:27:36):
you can wear number five on the recruiting thing. They
said that they did that. Part of the reason he
came is because everyone in his family's been able to
wear the numbers, so he feels strongly about wearing the number.
This is one of those things that they should have
been able to hash this out behind closed doors before
it became public. So now what Jayden Daniels has done
is pooled the right for them to use his name,

(01:27:57):
image and likeness, all the ads and the those things
that have him in it. He just want to be
a part of it because look, number gate, you know,
like it just it's a bigger deal. It's number Gate,
and everyone is like, oh, he should get over it.
But look, man, I know a lot of former players
that don't like their records, don't like their things touched.

(01:28:20):
It's the only thing that keeps them connected. And look,
if you've been a great player or great and something,
you want to be recognized for it. So I do
understand the outrage from him, but I do think that
they could have settled this in a different way than
playing out because the only person that looks bad is
him because people are trolling him and talking about him

(01:28:41):
being selfish and a penitent child as opposed to recognizing
the greatness but also understanding the trickiness that is that
we're in right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Jab you got to comment, I'm sure, yes, I do.

Speaker 6 (01:28:53):
So.

Speaker 9 (01:28:53):
I have the legal documents sent to LSU up in
front of me, and what are the funnier parts of
this is that they're there no mention of the number
in the document. What it focuses on is that Daniels
and LSU had a one hundred and eighty day post
termination agreement for his NIL usage. It has been over
eight hundred days, so that was the focus point. And

(01:29:16):
I'm sure the number stuff is true, but I think
that the reporting on this has not been great.

Speaker 8 (01:29:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
The funny thing is, and I think that Bucket hit
it on the head that Jayden Daniels obviously is the
upfront guy. You know, he's the guy in the public's eye.
But it was attorney for Jaden Daniels who wrote the letter,
a cease and desist letter to the school in forming
LSU that is no longer authorized to use Daniel's name, image,
and likeness, okay, And that comes from the fact that

(01:29:45):
LSU gave that sophomore standout defensive that DJ Pickett the
number five, which also that Jayden Daniels wore. But I
will tell you this much, I think Bucky made a
great point that if you're going to give a Heisman
Trophy winner a retired number, and basically Joe Burrow's number
has not been active. I don't know if it's officially retired,
but no one's worrying number nine. And he had got

(01:30:07):
a Heisman Award and they were fifteen to zero in
college football when he played Jayden Daniels. He was nine
to three when he played for LSU, but he completed
nearly five thousand yards and he scored fifty total touchdowns,
so his stats were pretty darn good. Plus he won
the Heisman Trophy as well. So it's an argument out there.
But the sad thing is that it's gonna be Jade

(01:30:29):
and Daniels to get the heat or the accolades.

Speaker 8 (01:30:31):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
He's the upfront guy, and he should have been smart
enough to say, my attorney's handling this, I have no comment.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Let him do it. It was his idea.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
Either way, it was gonna get back. So I don't
think they would do it because the fans are the
fans right, they're gonna be fanatical about it or whatever,
and so a couple other things that complicated for Jayden Daniels. One,
Jayden Daniels, you had a great run at LSU where
you won the Heisman Trophy, but you're not a lifelong
Tiger in terms of like you you didn't spend your

(01:31:01):
entire tenure with LSU. So you have these older players
who are talking about the brand, and the LSU brand
is bigger than anybody. No one's bigger than the brand.
I've seen Leonard Fournette talk about it. I've seen Jeremy
Hill post about it. I've seen others talk about the
LSU brand. So when you have guys who really blessed

(01:31:21):
in tears, they really believe in the university, they believe
in the Tiger brand all the way to the end,
it is hard for a newbie to come in there
and to garner that kind of respect and attention that
they did and how they view the brand with reverence.
And he does it. He just comes off as being

(01:31:43):
underwear and basically selfish, as opposed to having the gratitude
and grace that some people have when it comes to
the universe that you play.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
For well, obviously I think that Jaydon Daniels is getting
some bad advice, and obviously maybe that advice is coming
from his mother.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
And why do I say that his mom, Regina.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Jackson, he handles his business affairs, including being the lead
agent for Daniels in his pro career. All right, so
maybe Regina Jackson was the one that put the poison.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
In his head.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
And I think it's poisoned because to me, and I
never played the game, so maybe it's not that big
of a deal for me. But you know, for athletes,
I guess if they accomplished something, I had some great
accolades at a school or college, high school, whatever it
might have been, they want to see them number retired.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Maybe that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
But remember the common denominator here is that people are
saying that Jaden Daniels does not have a true allegiance
to LSU, whatever the hell that means. I don't know
what that means because he's not from Louisiana. So what
how many athletes excel out at a university or college
that are from that hometown. It doesn't make a difference,
it really doesn't. But that's what they're claiming because he's

(01:32:49):
not a local guy. He's not from Louisiana and he
played his first three years at Arizona State.

Speaker 4 (01:32:54):
Yeah, I mean that's what I was kind of saying,
Like he's not a lifer, like he didn't grow up
like living in, breathing the brand and so far heart.
For some people, they gonna see him as an outsider.
I'm down here in New Orleans because I call the
Jaguars game down here, and look, I can tell you
you haven't been down here doing championship games. When the
Tigers are here. It means something to them when they

(01:33:16):
talk about tiger bait and all that other stuff. And
so it's a delicate line. I am not of the
mindset that their relationship can't be repaired. They just have
to figure out how they're gonna do it. But I
notice no one is saying anything about the recruit who
requested number five and how he's dug in to wearing
that number. So for all the things that we're lashing

(01:33:38):
out at Jayden Daniels about the number, you know, the
recruit wore a different number last year he won number three.
You know, he won number three as a freshman, and
then this year he's wearing number five. Why are we
on him about changing Like he was okay wearing a
different number last year, why is it different this year?
If he also could be aware of the history of

(01:33:58):
what I just said about everyone who's won a Heisman
Trophy has has had their number pause, he also could
have been like, Hey, I'm gonna move off to Summer
five and find something else. So all the parties have
some ego involved that kind of needs to be checked
or dealt with to prevent them from having this situation
continue to drag out and play out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
Help us JP, help us here, come on, help us out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:34:23):
To Bucky's point, DJ Pickett's dad came out and said,
how Jayden feels about this makes me want him to
wear the number more so, I think everyone kind of
looks bad.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
And a couple other comments.

Speaker 9 (01:34:35):
In the initial ESPN article that came out about this,
it never said Jayden directly is upset. It said Jaden's
family is upset with this, So I'm curious how.

Speaker 13 (01:34:46):
Much mom, Yeah, it's probably it's probably the mom.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
I'm curious how much is him versus his family? And
then the other thing. Obviously, as a commander's fan, my
frustration is the timing. This is something that can happen,
but he's already under a microscope going like this. This
is not a make or break here for him, but
biggest year of his football career. Yeah, all of this
is unnecessary when we're a month away from regular season games.

(01:35:10):
It's annoying for sure, But.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Here's where you're wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
It is necessary because I love to talk about this
kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Okay, that's necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Okay, it's necessary for our show and I love this stuff.
And you know what the deal is that Brian Kelly,
the former LSU coach, they promised Picket the number five
jersey during his recruitment, That's what I've read. But he
chose not to wear number five without Daniel's approval.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
How do you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
That's tremendous. And look, you go back to his mom, Regina.
She has also had problems with Arizona State, So this
is not a first time situation. Arizona State cut ties
with Jackson's mother. Daniel's mother with Jackson's mother because she
allegedly get this paid for flights and lodging for recruits

(01:35:58):
who in permissive visited the school during COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
All right, so she she's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Involved with all this stuff behind the scenes. And look,
I look, you could say, oh, you wanted to spad
advice your son, and you're really going to listen to
your mom. It's hard to say no, you can hard
to say, hey, mom, but out leave me alone.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Mom's always, you think, looking out for the best in you.
So that difficult position that Jadeen Danzel's in, that his
mom is handling this, I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Look, then there's a lot of people that are weigh
in and people are on her or whatever. But like
I've seen people who have had influential dads weigh in.
So let's think about the Manning's Archie Manning weighing in
over Eli when Eli had a chance to go to
the charges and they're like, yeah, no, he's not going there,

(01:36:53):
you know what I'm saying. Like, So, sometimes you have
parents who do have heavy influence and they make decisions
that believe in the best interests of their child, and
sometimes that plays out. This is ugly now, but I
don't know what the end game or the goal is
when it comes to what they wanted from Jade and Daniels.
Now to Day's point about you know what I'm saying

(01:37:13):
just talking about like the distraction factor, because I know
he's worried about the Commanders, his team. He wants them
to go. It's a make or break year, as he said,
I think it's the biggest year of Jade Daniel's career
football life. This is not a distraction for him. This
is just a conversation that plays out. We're spending far

(01:37:33):
more time talking about it than he's worrying about it.
He doesn't have any plans to go back to LSU.
He's focused on the Commanders and he's focused on playing
well enough that in a year they have to break
the bank to secure him. So I don't think it'd
be a factor. It's just fodder. It's just you know,
this is what we do, sports media, this is what
we do. We found something that we can talk about,

(01:37:54):
and so now we're going to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
But I tell you why.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
I do believe him because he says he believes he's
being treated differently than's Tonny Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow, who's
number nine Jersey has not been sworn at LSU. I
believe that, and he won the Heisman Trophy, So you know,
you can't do one for one and not one for
the other. I believe in there, and that would that
would tick me off too. I mean, wouldn't that tick
you off?

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Really?

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
Yeah, I'm uh with that. He definitely feels some kind
of way. And the treatment has been different, they say
for whatever reason, but yeah, the treatment certainly has been different.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Look, I hate to bring this in the picture, okay,
but there's gonna be some lunatic out there saying it's
a racial thing.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
And if I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
The lsu, I give in to whatever Jayden Daniels wants
because you don't want to have anything like that exploding, right.
I know it's not it's stupidity, but it's not racial.

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
But I promise you, well, here's what I will say. Like,
I understand Jayden Dames is upset and you just said
a cato to Jade Dangers. Well, Jade Nings can't help
him anymore. Like Hebill, he's done. He's not coming back
in play. This kid they deemed to be a superstar.
He can help them right now. So Lane Kiffin coming in.
Understand why Lane Kiffin made this move, big time recruit

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I wanted to play right now. I'll need him. He
can help us I'm not losing him over a number.
So I'll just have Jaden be mad at us and
we'll figure out a way to make make amends down
the road. But right now, I need this kid to
come in and be comfortable and play the way that
we know he's capable of playing.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
All right, I checked. Now here's the and JB.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
You'd appreciate this. I did some research on this retirement
retirement by laws from LSU. Okay, they state that the
jersey numbers retired after two thousand and seven can be
given out to current players at the current coaches discretion.
This was essentially the tenth of making sure nobody ever
wore the jerseys of legendary basketball stars Pistol, Pete Maravich

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at LSU, Shaquille O'Neill, Bob PEBBITTT Bob Pettitt, and the
baseball coach Skip Burton.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
All right, so that's what they did.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
That's the rule of I don't know what the rule
is that a un see is there a ruling in
North Carolina? I mean, I don't know. I'm sure there is, Bud.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
Oh, yeah, you have to be uh let's see basketball
uh unanimous all American. You have to be a Wooden
Player of the Year. Uh, to have you your number retired.
Football is the same thing. Clear guidelines like unanimous all American.
That means by all the publications, all those things, Housman

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Trophy winner, all those things would be necessary for you
to be able to get your number retired. Uh in
those sports.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Okay, So I would take a logical guess right now
that no one on this year's UNC football team will
have their number retired.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't even.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
Yeah, all right, eight Bucket Brooks get him on X
at Bucket Brooks at Andy Furman a FSR eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. If you want to chime in,
that's eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty
the playing game coming up in this hour. You know,
teams need leaders, they really do.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Who are they? And who is one that's next? Which
newby coach? Next?

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
The most Wednesday season? Well we'll tell you next. All right,
This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's
Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy forming a live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios, and buck We got a caller from LA.
His name is Wayne, he wants to talk to you
on Fox Sports Sunday waite, O, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Do one of my best friends on Sunday morning talking
real good football.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
How y'all doing hanging with hanging all right now?

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
And then I know it's been brought up earlier, but
I just have to re emphasize the Browns have a
real problem at quarterbacks trying something yesterday, he was looking
like a two or three year veteran. I mean, he's
done there. Dylan, Dylan Gabriel, Deshaun w and Sanders combined

(01:42:03):
didn't look as good as Kyle Simpson. And I really
want to emphasize coaching. Last year, Dylan Gabriel did start
out really good. He should do a Sanders take a
back seat for a minute.

Speaker 8 (01:42:16):
And with us.

Speaker 5 (01:42:18):
Stefanski now down in Atlanta, I see how the coaching
has really kind of discombobulated everybody there with the Cleveland Browns,
I want to say, that's why you have a cook
and you have a shift. I think Stephanski was a
shif and this coach that that No, he's just a

(01:42:41):
cook because the ingredients just ain't working. Bucky my man,
rest of y'all have a real good, stunning, great show.
Talk to you soon, Thank.

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
You, Thank you Wayne. You know, Bucky brings up an
interesting point because obviously they bring in h after soytistic.
Tom Monkey brought in his new head coach, and he's
a respected offensive mind. But this team averaged just sixteen
points a game last year, So what could he do?
What more can he do to make it better?

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Well, one, he can add balance to the offense. So
what you can do is you can run the football.
You gotta get the offensive line. They made some moves
in the off season to upgrade the offensive line, and
then they got to run the football. Running the football
will change the numbers equation. Everyone can't pain in their
ears back and just go off to the pass or
two and afford somebody to drop into the box. They
to create more big play opportunities to kJ Casey Concepcion,

(01:43:32):
Denzel Boston, those things. So being able to get those
teams fixed. And then it's about a quarterback being relentless
with your effort, but being very like efficient in terms
of distributing ball, getting the ball to the right playmaker
at the right time, not taking unnecessary movements, just seeing itybody,
just taking care of your business. But this thing is

(01:43:53):
trending in the right direction because the personnel upgrades they've
made certainly appear to put them closer to making the posts.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
I would say this, as much as I enjoyed Joe Flacco,
I thinks a personality.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Is a good guy. He really is, and he's here
in Cincinnati now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Last year with the Browns, he started weeks one through
four and he had a rough start. He had six
interceptions in his first four games. I think that was
a mistake starting him. You know, you got to go
with the youth, You got to go for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:44:18):
I believe some of that, but like, you need a mix.
You're not gonna win a championship with just all young players,
so you got to have a mix of people. The
most important thing everyone has to be on the same
page when it comes to your offense defense. In Seestine's philosophies,
if they buy into how you believe things should be done,
you get a chance to win anybody. But if they don't,
if there's some whispering, some talking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
All right, now, I bet you thought I forgot about
you today, I beg you thought I forgot what your
NFL dot Com pros and I did not.

Speaker 5 (01:44:50):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
I want to talk about it now because it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
It's always great, really, and I want to save it
for the end because I think it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:44:57):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
And you wrote about this week an NFL which new
NFL coach will win most in twenty twenty six. And
you have the kid who coached at the College of
Mount Saint Joe in Cincinnati, Jesse Mitt And what a
career he's had, being at Michigan, being in Los Angeles
with the Charges, and now as a head coach. He

(01:45:19):
won yesterday one last night. He's going into a tremendous situation.

Speaker 3 (01:45:23):
So that's number one. But is he that great of
a coach?

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Why are you saying Jesse Minter is going to be
the number one winner this year as a new be coach.
He's a defensive wizard. I mean, he's gonna really put
his fingerprints on this ball club. But what's he going
to do differently?

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Well, I think what you're trying to do is you're
sitting here trying to figure out, Okay, how can I
get this defense up and going. The one thing that
he did what the Charges is he was able to
be creative but conservative, if that makes sense, meaning I
want to create chaos in your brains, but I'm going
to be concerned vative in terms of taking away the

(01:46:01):
explosive place so he can do that to generate a
consistent past rus. He has the people in place to
really help him do that. And then the other part
of it is how does he fix this offense within
aging Lamar Jackson? And I'm saying that knowing that he's
only thirty, but some of the superpowers are not quite
as super when it comes to running out running everybody.
He's an older player, He's been beat up, So how

(01:46:22):
did they put him in a comfort zone where he
can run at times but not take an excessive amount
of hits like as a runner, a playmaker. Those are
some of the things that I'll be looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
Okay, you've seen him, you've seen him in action. I mean,
I would know a great defensive coaches as far as
a bad defensive coach. You look at players rather than
the coach. What sets him apart? What made him so
successful basically in Michigan and now coming with Harbard in
LA with the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
What made him so good?

Speaker 4 (01:46:55):
Simplification? He simplified everything made it easy for them to
learn being in college that you have them simplified lot
the hard parts of the system. And then it's about
making sure that the players understand what they're doing. Some
of that is by getting the right players, the players
that are diligent worker bees who are going to spend
time around the facility because they take a lot of
pride in their work. But also weeding through all that

(01:47:16):
and making sure you got the right fifty three. Actually
I will say the right sixty nine in terms of
like the practice squad and the roster. So he's done that.
That's why they kind of operate like they do well
prepared for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Okay, this makes me crazy because I'm not happy about
this move whatsoever. You got him a number two, You
got Joe Brady of the Buffalo Bills. But remember one thing,
Sean McDermott did a hell of a job. Why he
got fired I have no idea. He reached the playoffs
eight of his nine years as head coach of the
Buffalo Bills, including each of the last seven years. Okay,
and they got rid of him. Why because they got

(01:47:51):
a new stadium and they want to go to the
Super Bowl. I don't get it. I mean, to me,
that was one of the worst moves ever and I'm
not really happy with that. I'm not a Buffalo Bill fan,
but I just think when something is done and it's
a wrongdoing, he got screwed.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Sean McDermott did get screwed, no doubt in my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
But what makes Joe Berty even better? And I tell
you there's gotta be a lot of pressure on Joe
Berty right now. He's got to take them to the
Promised Land. Though maybe he'll get the acts.

Speaker 4 (01:48:16):
Yeah, I can't say that he's better than Sean McDermott.
I think Sean McDermott did his best coaching job of
his career last year. I think he perennially took under
man teams and found a way to win. Now, Joe
Brady inherits a team that is loaded because you got
an MVP candidate and Josh Allen. You got an All
Pro running a rushing champion in James Hook and he

(01:48:37):
played a big part of that. Two tight ends that
can get it done. They brought over DJ Moore, so offensively,
they're loaded, they're ready to go. Defensively is where it
comes in to play Jim Leonard taking over the defense
will bring some pizzazz to the defense in terms of
the creativity in those things. He'll do some things that
Sean McDermott currently wasn't doing, but it'll add some flavor.

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I don't know how good they're going to be, but
I think they can just win on talent alone in
that division. That'll get them to ten or eleven wins.
The coaching will come into play when they get into
the tournament, and as Joe Brady versus the field, that's
when the coaching can get into it. But in terms
of wins during the regular season, are they good enough
to win ten, eleven, twelve games on the regular season?

(01:49:19):
Just as President constructed?

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
All Right? You know, in the world of sports, especially
maybe in the NFL more than any other sport, if
you have a hard nosed coach and he's not doing
well normally, they'll fire that guy and they're bringing it
up what they call a players coach, right, Isn't that
the way it works? So now with the New York
Football Giants, you got John Harbor as a third leading
coach to win games this year. And I think if

(01:49:42):
you look at the history and you wrote about this.
The Giants really one big when they had these so
called hard nose, tough coaches like Bill Parcells and Tom Coughlin.
So they're bringing in John Harbors. They're bringing him in there,
so see what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
Is that the reason?

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
I mean, personnel similar to what it was a year ago.
But maybe he's just tougher and runs a tougher ship.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Yeah, well, I'll say this, Bill Parcells, Tom Coughlin certainly
ran tough ships. I think John Harbar Moore is in
that mode than anything else. The attention to detail, the structure,
the discipline certainly will matter. This is a team that
had a lot of issues that are correctable, things that
they can control without even changing the talent. He'll get

(01:50:26):
those things fixed. The big concern to me is what
happens with Jackson Dark. Jackson Dart yesterday, even during the preseason,
had to go up under the blue tent. Every week,
he's up under the blue tent with some kind of concussion.
I don't know what's going on, but it appears that
durability could be a concern. So how can they build
this team to withstand a potential loss of Jackson Dart

(01:50:48):
or somebody else. But the defense is solid, man, the
defense is salty. They're ready to go. I think they
can kind of bully their way to a bunch of
wins in the NFC. We'll see because of some point,
the rope is gonna be the route.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
Well, you know what, I look at the number four
and you have Mike McCarthy and I'm shocked, I really am,
because you know, as tough as he is as a coach,
and he's been very successful, I look at that roster
and it is an aging roster. In Pittsburgh, they got
named players, no doubt, Aaron Rodgers, TJ. Watt, Kim Haywood,
Jalen Ramsey. But you know what, take a closer look.

(01:51:24):
These guys may be in the twilight of their careers.

Speaker 4 (01:51:27):
So maybe they are. I mean, they're older. I mean
that's just what That's just what it is. But we're
saying if we bank on the positive of this, all
those older players, he's very familiar. His experience is everything, right,
being at Green Bay for so long, having success there,
having success in Dallas three straight seasons where he won

(01:51:48):
twelve games, that is something that you have to certainly respect.
Now going to Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh has grown a little still,
had grown a little still under Mike Tomlin. He's trying
to mix things up a little bit. We'll see how
that works out. But this is a really good team.
They're solid, they're physical, they're competitive. He has a good
coaching staff. To me, when I look at them in

(01:52:08):
comparison to some of the other teams, they can be
in a mix. I think they're gonna have an opportunity
to certainly make the postseason if Aaron Rodgers is healthy
and available.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Yeah. Speaking of mac Toma, I really enjoyed him on
TV with his commentary the other day. I thought he
did a real good job for the first time, didn't
seem nervous at all and confident. I like him as
a person anyway, but I think he did a real
good job on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Really did now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Number five in your list on NFL dot Com Kevin
Stefanski of the Atlanta Falcons. I heard so many things
about Kevin Stefanski. Was he back to back coach of
the year, and then all of a sudden everything went
south in Cleveland. This has a big turning point year
for him because they want to see is in fact
can he get the job done in Atlanta? Is he
that kind of a coach and you're telling me they're

(01:52:52):
going to win? And I still believe there's a big
quarterback controversy in Atlanta right now. So what do you
think about Atlanta Falcons that Kevin Stefanski as a coach.

Speaker 4 (01:53:03):
Yeah, I do wonder if I've been too hard on him.
The last couple of years have been terrible. Just to
call him what it is, they've been awful, only eight
wins over the last few years. But he is a
two time Coach of the Year winner. He's taken He
took the Browns to the playoffs twice, so there is
that he does understand how to navigate a difficult situation,
the navigate terrain. I can't quite call him a quarterback

(01:53:26):
developer because there have been a lot of quarterbacks that
he's touched that have not played well. I mean, you know,
the system goes back and forth and those things. To me,
I put him up there. But I think this is
when we'll really find out who he is as a coach.
Is it really as good as we say is or
is this just one of those things where he's been
given a pass for so long and we just kind

(01:53:48):
of call him a great coach because everyone around him
calls him a great coach.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Yeah, he's one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
If they start the season like one in five, he
may be canned in the middle of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
That's two years.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
He's been eighty his first year.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
It's that they they they're waiting big time in Atlanta,
that they're they're chomping at the bit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
I wouldn't be surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
You know, it'll be a wrong move, but I think
once you get rid of a coach in midseason, you
might as well toss the season out the door. Because
it's just starting from scribes.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
It's not a good It's not a good move. It
really isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
But I think he could really be on the hot
seat big time if they start off really poor. He
better he better win and win early. Okay, as far
as the Raiders are concerned with Clint Kubiak.

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
He's got time.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
I mean, it's not a great team, but there's a
lot of questions, quarterback questions and of course, uh, their
running back situation.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
You know, is he gonna get it done?

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Is it astro and gent they're gonna get it done?

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
I mean, can he get it done.

Speaker 4 (01:54:43):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's a serious thing. And
so it's a combination of asking Gentz and brock Bauers
being able to get it done. That's what I'll tell
you from watching him practice. The two of them are terrific.
Clint Kubia is gonna set them up for success, give
them plenty of opportunities to touch the ball and make
things happen. And then it's about the quarterback. Right Kirk
Cousins has played really well in Clint Kobak system in

(01:55:04):
the past. How does he do now he's an older quarterback,
But that'll give me a chance. And then when is
it Fernando time? When will they finally put Fernando in
the mix and I allow him to get it done?
But it's a look, it's it's a tricky situation. But
we will see how good he really is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:25):
Okay, at the expensive time. Right now, let's got a
number ten, the tenth month winning his coach in the league.
Right now, coming up, you say, Miami Dolphins, Jeff Athley,
I'll be kidding me. I mean, are they can they
win more than three games? Can the Dolphins win more
than three?

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
Oh? Man, it's gonna be challenged. Not a lot of
talent there, man, when you look, just not a lot
of talent there. And he can coach his way out
of some of it. But man, it's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
Yeah, I'm with you on that, all right, we'll see, Okay,
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know what, it's time to let off some steam.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Bring it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Why the blame game is freaking next, all right, the
blame game right around the corner. This is Fox Sports
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. These Bucky Brooks are many Firman,
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And by the way, at the top of the hour,
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Countdown right here on Fox Sports Radio with Detroitka Krakenberg,

(01:56:40):
Schwartz and no, yes, right here on Fox Sports Radio.
But right now it's time for the blame game. You
ruin me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
It's all your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:56:49):
No, it's your fault.

Speaker 8 (01:56:51):
What is all your fault?

Speaker 2 (01:56:55):
Maybe it's everyone's fault, see the liar, that's why they're
Here's the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
Blame game game.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Let's figure out who to play? Want to play? That's
your fault?

Speaker 9 (01:57:05):
Go ahead, JB, it's your fault. And I know you
love the NBA, So I'm gonna start with the basketball question.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:57:12):
Former Phoenix son in New York, Nick Amari Stodemeyer, was
inducted into the Basketball Hall of Fame this weekend. His
career accolades were only six time All Star, five time
All NBA, and Rookie of the Year. Who do you
blame for such a low bar to get into the
Basketball Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
You know why they did it because he's a minority,
he's black, and he's Jewish.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
That's why he's in. That's why he's in. Believe me.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
You know what, ninety nine percent of the voters are
probably Jewish, So he's in.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
That's why he's in.

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
Yeah, I actually think he was deserving of being I mean,
I don't think he was a little more acting like
he was one of the dominant players of that error.

Speaker 9 (01:57:59):
I guess so I just feel like they're the criteria
for the basketball Hall of Fame seems to be lower than.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
Why are you doing on him? Why are you putting
them down?

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
Really, I'm not putting him down. I just wanted to
ask the question we're talking about who we blame.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
If anybody should be in the Hall of Fame, the
basketball Hall of Fame should be Digger Phelps, the coach
of Notja Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
He can't get in.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
I think he's blackballed. I mean, really, what he did
at Florid before he went to not Ja Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
I mean kidding me. Digga Fels should be in the
Hall of Fame, and I don't know why he's not.

Speaker 1 (01:58:29):
All right?

Speaker 9 (01:58:30):
Moving on, the MLB had their Field of Dreams game
Thursday night in Dyersville, Iowa, the same night of the
NFL preseason openers. What the Phillies top the Twins seven
to one? But everyone was watching football? How does this happen?
And who do you blame? Bucky?

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
This is bad timing, This is bad scheduling, Like, no, no,
kyp know you personnel, if you know all the personnel
is going to watch football, Like, don't schedule another event
for just just know that not good, not smart.

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
You know, it seems like every time Baseball does something,
they step in poop. I don't get it. Don't you
have a staff that looks at a calendar? Are you
that myopic that you only think that you're the only
thing in town? I mean, honestly, it's crazy. I mean,
at least the NFL realized that on Christmas Day, the
NBA plays, so you know what, they said, we're gonna

(01:59:24):
play dough.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
We're gonna play dough. So they could do it, they
could afford.

Speaker 7 (01:59:27):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
But Baseball, I mean, that's a big deal that that
Hall of Fame game. I went two years ago or
three years ago when the Reds were in there. It's
beautiful out there. It's a big deal for baseball, and
everybody's watching football. Shame on you, Baseball.

Speaker 5 (01:59:40):
The gate.

Speaker 9 (01:59:41):
Terrible timing, terrible timing. So this one was a stunner.
After buying the Lakers for ten billion dollars a year ago,
roughly Daughter's owner Mark Walters sold the team to Disney's
Bob Iger and Joshua Kushner for twelve point five billion
last week.

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Who do you blame for the quick sale? Andy?

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
I think the NBA because they want to have a
big time owner in LA because obviously those guys will
promise the franchise in Las Vegas. That's what I read,
and they're not gonna get it. So but they want LA.
They want a big name in La. La is a
big market. They want a face, and he's the face.

Speaker 3 (02:00:15):
That's what they did.

Speaker 4 (02:00:18):
Yeah, I'll know. It just seems kind of weird that
it was all in and how quickly it took place
on investigation, not doing dead just just seems kind of weird. Adam,
I'm not I'm not digging it. Yeah, I think I
think it's bad for basketball to quick turnaround. No one
wants to own the team for the sake of own
the team. They want to make it as a money maker.
I'm not I'm not a big fan.

Speaker 9 (02:00:39):
I think he's in some legal trouble. But final one,
real quick. The Bears will not change their name if
they build a stadium in Indiana. What about the Indiana
fans and will support them? And Bucky, who do you
blame for them potentially going to Indiana in the first place.

Speaker 4 (02:00:57):
Look, man, the people in Chicago didn't want a pony
of the stadium. I understand it or whatever, but they're
gonna lose dear beloved Bears. So it'll be Chicago Bears
playing somewhere else. But there would be Chicago, but they're
not gonna be in the soldier field.

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
What's the big freaking deal the New York Giants in
New York just playing New Jersey. It's not that big
of a deal. Everybody's making a big whoopy doo about this.
And believe me, where they're moving to an Indiana You
could walk across the border back of Illinois. Really, it's
not that big of a deal. It makes me sick.

Speaker 3 (02:01:25):
Stop it already. It's not a big deal. Stop looking
the pick.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
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