Carmen Vitali and Tracy Sandler discuss the Jayden Daniels jersey issues, Fernando Mendoza, and Bills new stadium

Carmen Vitali and Tracy Sandler start off the show discussing Jayden Daniels' team telling LSU football that they can't use his name, image, and likeness without him being compensated. Camren and Tracy are disappointed with Daniels, who should be preparing for the season, not worrying about someone at LSU using his old jersey number. The Athletic's David Hellman joins the show to discuss the Jayden Daniels issue further before discussing the Chicago Bears and a move to Indiana and the Bills new stadium as well. ESPN Bears reporter Courtney Cronin joins the show to discuss the Bears moving to Hammond Indiana as well. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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By the way, that story that just broke there about
the owner of the Bears, McCaskey, going on and on
about moving into a new stadium and hamming Indy and
Indiana Bears, Well we have the Kansas City Chiefs leaving
to move to Kansas Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Again, there's nothing about any of this that I like.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Okay, so I want to break it down with you again.
We have seen the NFL put pressure on these franchises
to essentially update their stadiums no less than every twenty years.
Think about Atlanta when I mean again, I always date myself,
but I mean the reality is, working in the eighties

(01:25):
with the Raiders, you.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Should be proud of your history.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well I am proud of it. But a lot of
people say, don't talk about the past. I will because
that's the way I operate. But when I work for
the Raider organization, almost every single stadium that I went
to in those four and a half years that I
work with the Raiders does not exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I mean, whether it's the Kingdome or Mile High Stadium
or the old original Patriots Stadium. I mean, I could
go up the Orange Bowl in Miami. I went there
many times.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Maybe the only one Lambo is.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
The only one I want to that's still around. I
mean Arrowhead obviously I went too many times. That's going
to be gone now. The Candlestick Park in San Francisco gone.
The Astrodome still exists, they just don't use it anymore.
I went there in Houston any many times. I mean,
I can go down the list RFK Stadium gone for Washington,

(02:18):
d C. Some of the other stadiums that went to
the Metrodome, how about the Silver Dome I went to
both those places don't exist. Anymore. So it is a
constant change. So where I told it, told you I
don't really care all that much for uniform numbers. There
are history. I went to Municipal Stadium in Cleveland, the

(02:38):
old mistake by the Lake. I mean, these old stadiums
were bad. I went to Soldier Field before they had
the lunar modules sort of land in it with the upgrade.
I mean when I went to Soldier Field, originally it
was like the old Soldier Field there in Chicago. But
this idea of building these new stadiums constantly really is

(02:59):
coming out of a threat from the NFL that if
you want to keep your franchise, you will build new stadiums.
I mean, the idea of remembered this. The city of
San Francisco voted to build a downtown stadium and they
never delivered on it. And next thing you know, they
got a stadium in Santa Clara, which is an hour

(03:19):
drive away from San Francisco that is the home of
the San Francisco forty nine ers. All right, so I've
said my piece, why are you so bothered by this? Nikki?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, also, aren't all these stadiums evolving to be domes now? Too? Sure,
I don't like that football's an outside sport. Make it
outside like there's certain aura and elements that you think
of with each team, right, I want to see people
freezing in Arrowhead in January. I don't want to see

(03:51):
sterile spaceship environments. That's what Sofi Stadium feels like. Granted,
fantastic venue to watch World Cup matches and it's it
is beautiful, but it just doesn't have the character in
the history. And I know some Kansas City fans who
are so bummed and so.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Upa that is such a great state, right and has
been for over fifty.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Years, Soldier Field, Why are you taking the Bears out
of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Because they won't do the upgrades necessary to keep that stadium.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's absurd. So's it's an injustice to the fans of
the sport. But you know it's the cash cow.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
You think that Chicago fans won't go to ham in
Indiana to watch a game, course they will.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, what do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, I mean, look, I'm a history buff, so when
I would go to a lot of these stadiums, there
was a lot of history involved in these stadiums that
I appreciate. But people don't care about that stuff anymore.
They just don't. But there are there are people that
do care, but the overwhelming majority of the people that
hang on to it. I always hear about this. It's
like when USC ended their rivalry of Notre Dame. They're

(05:00):
going to pick it up for four years starting in
twenty thirty, but only for four years, you know, and
they're like, the new set will say, well, I'm like,
rivalries is what makes sports. I mean, there's history there.
And their response is, well, you make new rivalries.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
That no. I just yeah, I think about it in
the context. Let's say the Dodgers decided I would I
would be so upset. That's a ballpark that you walk in.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, you have Wrigley Field in the fmly Dodgers Dating.
By the way, there's the third oldest ballpark in Major
League fifty two, nineteen sixty two. They open it up.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Look, I got some histories, teeth.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Look at that. You know that, But I mean, can
you imagine the if they took a wrecking ball to
Wrigley Field or Family Park?

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I might just quit on sports in general? What are
we doing? We've lost the plot? I just think the Yeah,
I think football and the LM and oh we got yes.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
I love Nicky and Steve, NICKI, since you brought up
this thing about the Dodgers hypothetically leaving for a new stadium,
leaving at least the downtown LA area, Steve, can you
briefly because there are parallels here with the Dodgers in LA,
the Bear.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Situation at Himmett.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Do you remember the Los Angeles Raiders flirtation.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
With Irwin Dale? All right, so I was obviously working
with the Raiders at the time. Here's what happened there.
So when the Raiders moved from Oakland to Los Angeles
into the Coliseum which had been vacated by the Rams,
because the Rams moved Anaheim. Okay, And p Roseau was
a commissioner of the NFL at the time. He really
he had roots with the Rams organization. He had roots

(06:45):
in LA went to Compton High School, as a matter
of fact, and he wanted to sort of take control
of that LA market. And Al Davis think about this,
Al moves the Raiders. You know, I have to get
approval of the owners, the owners Nana's. He voted against
them to move, and he said, screw you, I'm moving
into the coliseum. Coliseum is excited. We're going to not

(07:06):
just get an NFL team, We're going to get the Raiders.
And their second year they win the Super Bowl. So
things were really looking good at that point though. All
the promises about upgrades with the coliseum, which by the way,
had been hosted in the nineteen eighty four Olympic Games
and there was still a track at that time and
everything else. But they werenegged on all their promises. So

(07:27):
at that point al Davis was thinking, all right, well,
let's find an option. And there was a guy named
zav Hermaicilio. He was the voice. The guy met him
many times and out in Irwindale, out near Standanded out
there there was this open area and they proposed a
stadium out there, and they even handed non refundable ten

(07:50):
million dollars to the Raiders. By the way, that money
was used to sign Bo Jackson. That's how Bo Jackson
ended up with the Raiders with that money. And I
remember we did a whole thing that they were going
to build a stadium. They actually dug a sort of
a hole for the foundation. That hole sat there for
many many years. It never went away. Then they were

(08:10):
trying to negotiate with Hollywood Park at that time. In fact,
the place where Sofi Stadium now sits used to be
the racetrack Hollywood Park, and they were negotiating with that.
When all those deals fell apart, that's when the Raiders
ended up leaving LA and moving back back to Oakland
and now they're in Vegas. But think about that.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I never thought we'd be talking about Irwindale on National Wyndale.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Was that close to be in the home of the
Lust And if they had built that stadium, the Raiders
would never have left.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
LA for Erwindale Raiders.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
What about the Cowboys? Where do they play? Do they
play in Dallas?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
No? They play?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Is it Arlington?

Speaker 3 (08:51):
The Arlington Cowboys?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
The Arlington Cowboys. Do the New York Giants or the
New York Jets play in New York? No?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
You want to know? My favorite one is the Los
Angeles Angels of Anaheim, No place.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
That was ridiculous. So the reality is that most of
these teams do not actually play in the cities that
bear their name, of course, but there's only one team
that plays in the state of New York, and that
is the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
But how cool is it to have the Soldier field.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I know that see what you see, you feel a
connection to the history of that stadium. I get the
I certainly get that, Nikki, But a lot of people don't.
They're just like, hey, shiny new toy, a new place.
But I mean you can you imagine seriously if they
took a wrecking ball to Wrigley Field or Family Park, Like, no, No.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
That would be no. I might actually quit sports. Maybe
I'll pick up weather traffic. Could I do traffic? Steve?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Look anyone that's into sports, And if you're listening right now,
you're a sports person. You would not be listening to
us if you're not a sports person. Okay, we get it.
And history, it's history plays a big bearing on us
becoming sports fans. It's passed down by you know, people
that are our parents or you know, relatives or friends

(10:20):
or some reason that you get hooked into sports. And
for those of us who are sports fans fortunate enough
to actually make a living doing this. I don't know
about you, Nikki. I know you you're a reporter that
you've done a lot of different things, and you're still
new career compared to mine. But I never cease to

(10:42):
be a fan. I make it very clear that there
are teams I like their teams. I don't like that
I'm never going to like. And to me, sometimes I
look at the term sports journalists almost as an oxymoron.
I'm like, if you wanted to be a journalist I
don't know if there are any journalists these days. Everyone
just has opinions, and that's fine, but don't label yourself

(11:03):
something you're not. If you chose sports as where you
want to go, that's because well you'll have sports period.
I like the stories, well, that's part of it, absolutely,
and I know you like to the great thing. It
can be it can be a curse. I don't know
about you as far as this getting to know people

(11:27):
in this industry, Athletes, anybody you know, were you well,
you grew up knowing them and all of a sudden,
you're they know you now and they're humanized. How has
that worked for you over the years where you have
humanized people that you didn't you almost thought of them.
Is you know, you know these warriors whatever they are,

(11:49):
these athletes, and then when you actually work with them
and get to know them on a human basis, how
does that change? The dynamic or does it for you?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, I used to be Let's say I'm going live
in an interview, and you have anywhere between ninety to
forty seconds of dead air before you're standing right beside
this person, right before they toss to you. And it
could be anyone. I could be doing a court side
interview with a celebrity at the gay game, or I
could be waiting to do a walk off and you're

(12:18):
standing right there. And I used to treat it so professionally,
and you know, don't say anything, don't you know, wait
till they toss to you, then conduct the interview. And
I learned that the magic and the humanity of the
moments and the rapport you can build is in those
seconds before you're actually on camera and you just talk
to the person like they're an actual, real person. And

(12:39):
that to me has been the new evolution of understanding.
You know, they're just everyone's just a person too, and
they want connection, they want to feel comfortable, and when
they do feel that, everything sounds better, it comes across
more genuine and I think that that relatability, and like

(13:01):
you said, the humanity in it is why we do
what we do. And when it's on display. It's the magic.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I think the greatest compliment I've gotten over the years
from some athletes that I've known for a long time
is a certain trust factor. And again I would treat
it like anybody else I trust.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I mean, if somebody is a friend of mine and
I have shared things both ways, that we're sharing this
because we're friends and it's not to be used outside
of that, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
That's I had an athlete drop an F bomb at
me on live TV for no fault of my own.
They were just it was a kind of a Kobe moment, right,
and I just you know, ended the interview and my
boss told me, you know, as a you know, in
that position, you did everything you possibly could. But they
did feel that the athlete owed me an apology for

(14:02):
putting me in that position because they were just athletes.
They apologize, came around and apologized, and I just said, hey,
you know, listen, I understand how you were feeling, and
I want to put you in the best light possible
always I'm part of your broadcast. I'm not here, you know,
ever to pick apart. It was after a win too.

(14:24):
That was I think the most shocking thing, and they
you know that was what I related. I just I
want you to know that you can trust me at
all costs. And I think our relationship was stronger because
of that. But you just got to keep reminding that
you are a trustworthy component of their story.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
With that being said, I'm going to betray a trust.
On the other side, Okay, the Lakers are sold again?
What exact get exactly happen here? I've been digging a
little bit. I've been poking around a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Steve Hartman investigative journalists.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
I don't know about that. I know a couple people.
I'm gonna share what I think I know.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Spill the T, Steve, spill the T.

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Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah Fox Watt Hartman spill the teast you I have been.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Right Before we get to that, I have to mention
we're watching the Bears Browns preseason game. Shador Sanders please,
I mean, by the way, I Deshaun Watson was something
like nine out of ten out of the box. Today
they just showed I just watched two plays. The first
play on Shador Sanders was knocked down at the line

(17:06):
of scriomage. His second pass was overthrown by I don't know,
five yards right into the arms of a Bears defender.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And you were just telling me the Bears don't have
a defense.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well, I'll tell you what. Everyone's got a defense when
Shardor Sanders is on the field.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Wow burn boom roasted.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
You know this is not a personal thing. I'm sorry.
He made a Pro Bowl last year. That's my favorite. Yeah,
you realize he had the fourth lowest QBR of any
quarterback with enough attempts to qualify over the last twenty years.
Fourth lowest QBR.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Are we cool with Deshaun Watson just playing again?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I don't know if it's cool, but they're paying him,
so you might as well get something out of it.
No one's going to pick up that contract. Although, although
think about this, if you're the Browns, and of course
no one expects the Browns to do anything this year.
You gutted the team. He got rid of Miles Garrett
and everything else, and you played to Sean Watson. He
plays okay, and that team, like the Rams. Let's say

(18:15):
Matthew Stafford goes down.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I have a problem as a sports fan.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
With the person. Yes, I'm a little more callous about you.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yes, you're a man.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well, thank you. Yeah, I'm not forgiving him for anything.
It's just the fact that but you're forgetting it. But
he can still play the game.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You're forgetting.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's not a matter of forgetting. Just like if I
have a hole to fill and the guy can still play,
I'm gonna throw him out there.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
You're forgetting convenient, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
You want to hear convenience, I'll tell you the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh, this is what I've been waiting for you. I
don't really want to talk about the Deshaun Watson thing.
I don't know why I brought.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
It up, that's okay. Well I brought it up because
I was watching Schudor Sanders look awful. Okay, So this
literally comes out of nowhere, right, folks. The Guggenheim Group
led by Mark Walter, by the Lakers, and by the way,
paid ten billion dollars for franchise not even worth half
that ten billion. I mean, it was like, where do

(19:27):
you come up with that number? Ten billion for the Lakers?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Money's fake?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay, you see, you're already a step ahead. Nicky knows
this business really well. Okay, you're right about that. The
ten billion was fake money. To begin with, Mark Walter
doesn't have ten billion dollars. I mean, theoretically, on paper,
the Gougenheim Group is worth three hundred and fifty billion dollars.
But this is this is not real money that we're

(19:57):
talking about here.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Because he already had share that were already that he
bought in at what five billion or two billion? When
he whatever, I don't it's not like he's got ten
billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Okay, he's the he's the front guy of the goog
Hang group. And then they can always the question is, okay, well,
if it's not his money, where's this money coming from.
Well we just doubled down on that with this sale
of twelve billion dollars. So the amina reaction was, wait

(20:29):
a second, you just bought the team fourteen months ago,
and actually it's been less than a year since the
league actually approved this.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's been ten months.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
And so people are like, he just flipped the team
for two billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Well, I said I would sell my dignity for two
billion dollars. Is that too callous of meat to say?

Speaker 8 (20:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
You can. You can say anything you want. I'm not
gonna stop you. Okay. So You're like, well, that's a
hell of a business deal, right.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Right, but twenty five percent?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, But is Mark Walter pocketing two billion dollars? No, no,
he's not.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Also, when I got that alert this week, I like,
I put my I had to double check ago, what
do you mean the Lakers are being sold?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, let's let's let's back up a little bit here.
So when and I look at I bought into the
idea of this is a good sale. I knew that
the Lakers are going to go nowhere. And I love Genie.
I've known Genie Bus a long time. I'm a Genie
Bus fan. I have nothing against the Bus family. Her father.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Visionary I changed the landscape of professionals.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Changed everything everything. And doctor Buss was a character to
the core, but was the probably the most single important
person in the history of the NBA. He changed everything, everything,
And so I had a lot of admiration for doctor Buss,
even if he was a poor man's Hugh Hefner. He

(21:58):
played that game, and there's there was a lot of
behind scenes stuff then I will never divulge, but anyway,
so and Genie was very as very much her dad's daughter.
One hundred percent and so, but there was no way
the dynamic of the bus family in the vision of
their father, was going to coexist like that. It just
was never going to happen. So she ends up selling,

(22:20):
and why wouldn't you sell ten billion dollars? You're gonna
give me ten billion dollars? Ten billion dollars? Really sure?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
And the Lakers were being outrun in terms of they
were there a family owned mom and pop shop one.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Hundred percent exactly run is a mom and pops.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
They couldn't keep up with the Steve Bahmers of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Correct. So I'm thinking to myself, well, this is a
good thing for the Lakers, and I was really trumpeting
this is a positive because we know what the Guggenheim
group can do, and we've seen it with the Dodgers.
But the dynamics of Major League Baseball and the dynamics
of the NBA are completely different because you have a
salary cap in the NBA. So from a bit business standpoint,

(23:01):
one of the reasons this deal was made is I
think that Mark Walter and his group were realizing there
were limitations on exactly what they could do beyond what
they expected. The luxury tax in the NBA is step,
it is steep, and so I think they were a
little bit frustrated in trying to put this together around

(23:25):
Luka Doncic in exactly what their vision was and what
was actually the dynamic of what they could actually do.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Meaning you can't come in and operate like it's a
Major League Baseball correct.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And I think that they're thinking was where there's always
a way around it. In other words, there's always ways
to figure out to work around. I mean, obviously when
you think about how they would the Dodgers and they
just started giving defer payments all these players, right, I
mean next year, supposed to Kyle Tucker is going to
be making eighty one million dollars. Well, he's not making

(24:03):
eighty one million dollars. He's got deferred payments are going
to go on forever and ever. Same thing with Edwin Diaz. Obviously,
the sho Heyo Tani deal can't do that in the
NBA doesn't work that way.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yes, So, Steve, I'm not buying this angle from you.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Well, that's not the only reason.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, this is part of the part of the fracture.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Part of the fracture.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
The crack.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
That was beginning, all right, So let's let's talk about
who ponied up twelve billion dollars fake money again. M hm,
whether it's Bob Iger or Kushner, this is fake money.
These people don't have that kind of mind.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
I only say his last name because I never want
to say the brother by accident.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yes, you know this is Josh Kushner, the younger brother
Jered Coy. Yes, and their father obviously is the ambassador
hired by the president of two countries. But no, they
don't have that money either. So this gets back to
a much bigger dynamic of the NBA itself.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Where the league's going right now?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
With the money? Weird? Does all this money come in
for the NBA? Well, we know China is banking a
lot of the NBA. It has for years. China money
is really financing the NBA for those that go to China.
The NBA is everywhere everywhere. So the idea of infusing

(25:31):
more fake money into the league. And by the way,
when you put a price tag on a team, it
raises the value of every other team. When Steve Bomber
paid four times market value, it paid two billion dollars
for a Clippers team that would have a market value
of a half a billion at the time, five hundred
million dollars. Then he bought it from Donald Stirling. Raise

(25:51):
the bar for everybody. Right now you think, wow, two
billion dollars right, twelve billion dollars yep. So to me,
this is everyone's talking about all this legal stuff that
you know, Googling, Heim Group and everything else is involved
with again and this is why Dodger fans will Is

(26:12):
he going to have to sell the Dodgers?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Do you think so?

Speaker 2 (26:15):
No? No, again, Mark Walter is a face representing a company.
This is not a guy sitting there with three hundred
billion dollars in his pocket. Okay. He is a face
of a corporation that is making business deals for their

(26:37):
own benefit that involves professional sports teams. And now the
Lakers have gotten caught up in this. Now I want
to do a full investigation on exactly where this twelve
billion dollars is coming from. Where is this I don't
see Googleheim Group? What is this? Is this Disney? Is
this ESPN? I mean, where where is this on the

(26:59):
Bob Igers side? And is the Kusher's side? Is there
a connection to I don't know the President of the
United States, because there obviously is a connection, but being
the Kushner family and the Trump family. So the NBA,
to me, has a lot of explaining to do on
exactly the dynamic of this business deal before. By the way,

(27:19):
it hasn't been approved yet. I mean, we still have
to get the approval of the owners. But I want
a more detailed dynamic of the total actual finances of
the NBA and where exactly this money is.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
This is accountant Steve Hartman reporting for duty. I thought
you're going to give us some salacious t Steve.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
The bottom line is is that this was purely a
business deal. Yeah, but I do believe that there was
frustration on the part of Mark Walter and his group
of Dodgers. I mean, they were all the Dodger executives
that they can't pull off what they are hoping to
do based on the restrictions of the MBA.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm I'm yeah, But how.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Did this twelve billion dollars come out of nowhere?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right? Well, they had been pooling their resources to buy
the Vegas team. They were they were in the running
for the Vegas bid, and then they I think, I think,
I don't I don't think Walter bought the Laker, bought
into the Lakers, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Right, hang on, I want to hear you on the
other side of this. I've said what I had to say.
You were thoroughly unimpressed. Now let's find out what's trending
right now. Now another guy that has deep connections with
the Laker organization, That, of course is I tak warn Crome.
By the way, you used to broadcast their gains from.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
The rafters, Kobe's, including Kobe's any one point game.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Now you do.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Actually I was actually up in the rafters just to
avoid you. But what's the point in what's the point
of going back and only state? In fact, wasn't it
you who once said and I quote, I think the
Lakers can take it unquote.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yes, Son, Yes, steered the show. I think the Lakers
can win it, win it, win it.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Sorry, Nicky, I just can't resist agitate on the TV show.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yet I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
The Bear doesn't take much to wind him up well.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Speaking of the Bears.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
A short time ago, on the Chicago Bears telecast or
their preseason game against the Cleveland Browns, Bears owner George
McCaskey reiterated the team's plans to build a new stadium
in Hammond, Indiana, saying, quote, the clarity is we're moving
forward in Hammond unquote. The telecast even showed video of
one of the potential stadium sites in Hammond, as McCaskey

(29:36):
pointed out that the Chicago skyline was still visible off
in the distance well Steven Nicky. Some Bears fans on
social media, however, felt the video did not exactly make
Hammond look like the French riviera at light. Kojak comment
and quote that was so unconvincing. What's appealing about moving

(29:57):
to where a bunch of refinery vats are unquote?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
And then there was.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
At suburban Jesus, who added, quote a month ago, I
was in Hammond in the area is as dreadful as
everyone says unquote. As for the game, speaking of dreadful,
the Bears lead the Cleveland Browns twenty four to ten
with about nine minutes left on the fourth quarter. Now,
Deshaun Watson started eleven to fifteen for one to twenty

(30:23):
six played the first half. Shador Sanders then came in
six out of eleven for seventy nine yards he was
intercepted by Beanie Bishop and Chicago scored a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Two players later.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Dylan Gabriel then came in and he was intercepted by
Beanie Bishop. So two interceptions for Beanie Bishop of the Bears.
Talk about a literation anyway. The Minnesota Vikings up thirteen
to ten over the New York Giants. Four minutes into
the fourth quarter, Vikings started Kyler Murray quarterback, completed two
of three for ten yards.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
JJ McCarthy then came in.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
He went four out of seven for thirty four yards
the Buffalo Bills, leaving m Carolina Panthers twenty two to
seven six minutes left to play in the fourth quarter.
Josh Allen started the game six of eight for one
to eleven, including a nine yard touchdown pass to Keon Coleman.
Seattle Seahawks cornerback Devin Witherspoons agreed to a four year,
one hundred and thirty two million dollar extension and makes

(31:16):
him the highest paid cornerback in NFL history. Finally, Steven Nicky,
remember earlier we told you about this Saint Louis Cardinals
prospect named Joshua Biaz. The first pitch he sees in
the major leagues. Today at Wrigley Field against the Cubs,
he hits for a home run. Here's what happened when
he came to the plate for the second time in
his major league career in the fourth inning with Chip

(31:38):
carry on Cardinals TV, swagging.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
A triumph down the line.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Did he do it again? That ball is gone?

Speaker 4 (31:46):
He's got two homers, Joshua Biaz remember the name. Two
major league at bats, two home runs at Wrigley But
the Cardinals will lead the Cubs four to three on
the top of the fifth.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Back to you, guys, homered in his first two major
league at Bats's is that what you're telling me?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
That's what I told you, babe. Wow, now you too.
Now you're supposed to be with your computer like mine.
You're supposed to say that happened back in nineteen thirty four.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I do know briggambanias at two home runs in his
first major league game. There we go, all right, Thank you,
Isaac as always. By the way, with the iHeartRadio app,
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(32:35):
Radio as one of your presets in the iHeart apps
so it always pop up at the top of your screen. Again,
just search Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart app to
listen live. All right, So I want to hear from you, Nikki,
your theory exactly why this deal went down, what happened
to Googenhein's vision of the future, and who'd exactly did
they sell it? Well?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I just think you look at the way things went
down over the past ten months. There was integration happening
between the Dog and Lakers, and that was the intention
to have to have these two franchises kind of operate
as one unit. The movement, the hirings, the integration that
was being done. It didn't feel like this was this move,

(33:18):
this purchase by the Walt By Walter and the Guggenhein group.
It had no inclinations of being a flip, right, which
is ultimately what it ended up being. Uh, you know,
flip and I feel that maybe and who knows. You
look at Agar and Kushner, who were well in the

(33:42):
queue for a bit at the vag the Vegas expansion team.
That's hypothetical as of right now. They might have gotten
word of and uh, you know that Walter could be looking,
could be in distress, and they this all happened so quickly,

(34:03):
so I think they pivoted and made a very aggressive
bid towards Walter.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
So bid that doesn't make any sense. Twelve billion dollars
for the Lakers. Really have they checked that down?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
But why did Walter went out?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, if you believe it, if you believe what they're
just trying to sell you, it's the idea that he's
got legal problems right now and he needed the cash.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Well, I think you're believing what they're trying to sell you.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I'm not believing it. That's what they're trying to sell,
is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
He told you what I believe, But that you're going
to tell me they bought an NBA franchise without knowing
the limitations of opening an NBA.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't think they thought they had any limitations, to
be honest.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
That's so that's too NICI.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
There's what there isn't a level of arrogance when you
get to that. There is a level of arrogance that everybody.
We just show the world. What we could do with
the We can certainly do the same thing with the Lakers. Well,
I know, I know, no, I knew no when they
bought it. That that you're you're barking up the wrong
tree if you think that you can pull off what
you did with the Dodgers with the Lakers. It's a

(35:15):
completely different set of rules. All right. On the other side,
we'll continue on here, coming down the stretch. Nikky, we're
just getting started. Keep it air. This is Fox Sports.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio radio.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
Are we just playing all songs that have been on
recent commercial campaign?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Has this been recent?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I think so I can.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
The commercial is like all commercial, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Maybe Wingstop?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Maybe I'm stopping years I.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Know, but it's like it's definitely like a Wingstop commercial.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Well, I'm not doing a purpose.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
Maybe that's just me being both termally online and termally
tuned into live television because of sports. I'm card of Italian.
That's Tracy Sandler, Christophett again playing DJ.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Welcome back in.

Speaker 9 (36:16):
I have something to share with everybody, do you I do?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Maybe I can guess what it is, Tracy.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
Well, let's see with the iHeart app. You can stream
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(36:44):
Sports Radio in the iHeart App.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Thank you, Tracy, You're so welcome.

Speaker 7 (36:48):
And now it's time for our recurring segment, the Dues
and the don'ts of the Week, highlighting the dunes.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Oh I love that putting us spotlight on the don't.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
The subject brings me no joy. Don't do that, that's insane.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
All right, ter say, I'm gonna hit you with one.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
Start us off, and it's about sweet baby Fernando Mendoza.
So he made his little debut with the Raiders. He's
officially an NFL player, but he was asked about how
he's settling into Las Vegas and if he's been to
the strip yet, and here's what he said. He said,

(37:34):
it's like when you're a kid you're trig or treating
and there's the haunted house.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You're not trying to go over there.

Speaker 7 (37:41):
So my du is, do believe in sweet Baby Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
This listen.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
He went out there and he looked good. It's preseason whatever.
If this man plays well, he is a coach's.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Dream of a quarterback. Sure is, he is the perfect.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Quarterback to be the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders
because you do not have to worry a single second
that this man is going to be indulging in all
of the things that you can indulge in Las Vegas.
You don't have to worry like he like I think,
he went on, he said, like the playbook is my girlfriend.
Like he doesn't. He has a one track mind when

(38:20):
it comes to football, and he stays. He gets there early,
he stays late. There was a wonderful profile on him
recently that just came out that like, I am just
like this is exactly what you want your quarterback to
be if you are a head coach.

Speaker 9 (38:35):
I love it. He's see Baby Fernando Mendoza.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Baby Fernando Mendoza, I have ad.

Speaker 9 (38:40):
That is, if you're an icon, be an icon. Do
be an icon in everything. I don't know if you
saw Lebron James started a golf YouTube channel today and
he actually I.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
Didn't see this, so we're learning about this in real time.

Speaker 9 (38:57):
He full influencer. He like it was in the beginning
of it was something effective. Hey guys, you enjoyed our
reunion so much, we decided to show you here golfing
in Scotland. And it was literally I was like, he's full.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Of did he drop it, Let's get into it.

Speaker 9 (39:12):
He didn't drop, but let's get into it exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
But he did.

Speaker 9 (39:16):
He did do like a hey guys.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Wave like.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
It was a full influencer, and I have to say
I loved it. I'm pretty sure I'm subscribing because it's amazing.
I mean, I get Lebron. He's just gonna be the
king of everything. I'm sorry, but he just is.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
I mean, you know what, Like that was the only
reason I really thought that maybe he actually would go
to the Golden State Warriors, because the golf is real
good up there.

Speaker 9 (39:39):
Fair He's in Scotland right now, so he's making up
for it.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
Yeah, you know what, there's probably direct flights from Philly
to Scotland.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
If I had to guess. Philly's along the eastern seaboard.
M hmm.

Speaker 7 (39:49):
It's about as close as you can get to Europe.
I want to go play golf in Scotland. I don't
even play golf.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
You should see if you can get on Lebron's YouTube channel.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Sure, I mean I literally my first time I ever
played a course. I played a PGA course here in
Chicago called cog Hill, Okay, and it was disastrous.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Tracy, I need to learn how to golf. But that
was not the day.

Speaker 9 (40:10):
But maybe that could be. One of the segments is
that he turns not great golfers into better.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Great golfers, that he really would be the goat.

Speaker 9 (40:18):
Hey, guys, I'm here with Karma Bally and we're gonna
we're gonna teacher. Let's get into it.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Let my people call his people, all right, real quick,
I've got another one. I said, it's a don't and
it's don't get got Uh this was circulating in Chicago.
There's been a lot of stadium stuff going on. We're
gonna get into it later on. But uh, there was
a guy that is very that has been called a
Bear's analyst that I need people to use that loosely
was apparently texted by someone claiming to be Dan katz

(40:48):
as in Big Cat from Barstool, saying that the Bears
were not only moving to Indiana, but changing their name
to the Indiana Bears. And he reported it and it
got picked up and went everywhere. And I'm begging people
to have a little bit more or critical thinking skills.
And also, if you're getting something from a source journalism,
you have to fact check that source with at least
one more source. If not, too, don't get got people

(41:12):
have some critical thinking skills too. Let's have some media literacy.
Let's think twice about things, Let's consider the source, and
let's stick around because we've got a whole other hour
coming up after this stick around. You're listening to Fox
Sports Saturday. Ron Welcome back into our two of Fox

(41:35):
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Speaker 1 (42:11):
Thank you, Tracy.

Speaker 9 (42:12):
Oh, you're so welcome.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I'm watching these games and.

Speaker 7 (42:19):
Thinking to myself, especially when you're talking about certain teams,
that it's gonna look a little different this year, especially
if you're thinking about or you're talking about the Buffalo
Bills and then eventually the Kansas City Chiefs and maybe
even the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 9 (42:41):
You mean the Indiana Bears.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
That's what I want to get to, Tracy.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
So there's been a lot of change when it comes
to NFL stadiums, and we've seen some of these incredible
stadiums being built, whether that's so far there in LA
or you have Allegiant in Los Angeles. That sweet baby
Fernanda Mendoza, who just talked about last segment, is playing it.
I can't bring myself to call him anything different, Tracy,
because he is and we got to meet him at

(43:08):
Super Bowl and he was so kind.

Speaker 9 (43:10):
He was, you would think he's going to.

Speaker 7 (43:14):
Be yes, correct, But I want to get to all right. So,
the Bills Stadium, the new my Mark Stadium, is open,
and it's opened to mixed reviews because apparently there are
some obstructed view seats where there weren't before. The video

(43:34):
boards are a little bit smaller than in some of
these giant stadiums. It does have an overhangs. It's not indoors,
but they do have an overhang that is supposed to
be able to trap heat and to melt snow and
kind of get through Buffalo winters a little bit better. Obviously,
we haven't tested that out yet, but I'm curious to

(43:56):
see what you think of I appreciate I'll tell you
what I think. I appreciate that the Bills Stadium looks
different than some of these newer stadiums have because when
you look at SOFI and you look at a Legion,
especially on the inside, when you're going to these games,
they are very similar in how in their footprint and

(44:18):
their floorplan. And I do appreciate the Bills doing something different,
but if it comes at the expense of now obstructed
view points and not being able to have a great
in game experience. If you're talking about the video boards
not being big enough, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Well, the video boards thing, I'll just start there. That
is bizarre to me because that is.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
We have the technology.

Speaker 9 (44:45):
We have the technology. It's kind of a no brainer.
And how often do we all look at the video
boards throughout a game, no matter what you're looking at
replays at all? I mean that to me seems like
that's particularly odd. Not that I think views should be obstructed,
but that is particularly odd to me, especially now getting
to obstructive views, since they say it's not a mistake,

(45:08):
it was part of the design. Because stadiums sometimes have
obstructive views. I don't know that that is actually entire true,
but it.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Depends on the shape of the stadium.

Speaker 7 (45:19):
Sure, there are stadiums that absolutely have constructed obstructive views
because of this that the other structurally whatever.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
But I think, but then the board should be like that.
I feel like it's the video boards things.

Speaker 7 (45:32):
You can't have both then, Also, like when you have
the technology of being able to hopefully better site lines
and and improve site lines.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I would hope that you would you would you would
take it and you wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (45:45):
Purposely, Like I think, I don't know what would have
been worse, to be honest, if they would have come
out and just been like, yeah, are bad, right, we
kind of didn't realize that that was gonna happen, But
this is beam is structural, so there's nothing we can
do about it. Or what they went with, which was yeah,
that's on purpose, and you're like, what, yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:00):
We do that on purpose. Now they do say that.
So far because we're in preseason, less than one percent
of ticket holders have said anything. But it's now a story,
so people are going to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Well.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
And also, if you're a season ticket holder.

Speaker 9 (46:16):
They're probably not getting obstructive views well.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
That and you're probably not even you're probably maybe you
went to see the stadium for the first preseason game,
but I mean on a normal season season ticket holders,
I feel like a lot of them don't end up
going to preseason because they know that they can go
to every other like real game.

Speaker 9 (46:32):
That is true. I think you are so like that.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
Do you really have like the bulk of your season
ticket holders even in the stadium yet? And maybe you
do because they wanted to see it first and be
in the first game there and all that other stuff.

Speaker 9 (46:44):
They're to be complaints. And I also think, and I
could be wrong about this, I do also think that
when a team moves from a stadium where there are
lots of memories and that's where they've been for so
many years, that next stadium is never good enough until
the team starts being good in it and people get
used to it. I just think they are always going
to be criticisms. I have not been to High Mark,

(47:05):
so I mean that's not true. I've been to the
old city, man, I've not been to the new stadium. Yeah,
so I don't know, but I do think there is
a little of that so far. Didn't have that because
the Rams were playing at the Coliseum when they moved
back to La Allegiant didn't have that because the Raiders,
you know, were Las Vegas. We're in Las Vegas and
that stadium is pretty fantastic. So I think there is

(47:26):
a little of that. But I'm going to go back
to this the entire season. If people are complaining, if
you knew you were going to be obstructing views, how
are the big video boards not bigger that?

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (47:38):
That those seem like they contradict each other. But another
team that's gonna have to deal with this is Kansas
City because the Chiefs are building a new stadium and
their stadium, their current stadium, Arrowhead, is very it's it's historical,
it's very traditional. Yes, it's old, so it needs, you know,
upgrades and this that the other. But they are actually
moving from Kansas City, Missouri, to Kansas City, Kansas. They

(48:00):
are moving across the state line, and they unveiled, like
in late July, they unveiled the plans for this brand
new stadium and it looks amazing and it's costing billions
of dollars and hopefully they learn from the mixture years
that the Bills just got. But this is gonna set

(48:21):
up the third STATEIM we're gonna talk about. Does it
matter that they're no longer playing in Missouri and they're
now playing in Kansas.

Speaker 9 (48:26):
Well, they have the benefit that no one else is
going to have, is that they're still playing in a
Kansas City. Oh true, Yes, I'm saying that it really helps.
I think that really really helps. I think for the
people in Missouri, yes is probably going to matter and
they're not going to be thrilled about it. But I
think they do have that that benefit that no one

(48:47):
else is going to get. But that's hard no matter what.
As as we know. I mean, when the Niners move
from Candlestick Park to leave Stadium, which is about an
hour hour and a half outside of I guess say
an hour maybe a little more outside of San Francisco
and the South Bay, I mean, people were up in arms,
absolutely up in arms. And they're in the same state
and they're not that I mean, it's far, but they're

(49:08):
still in even in the Bay Area, in the same state,
in this in the Bay Area, and it was a thing.
It was a thing for a very long time really
until the team got good again. But people will be
upset about it, you know. I just people will be
upset about it, especially if.

Speaker 7 (49:22):
Well, you know, you have to consider also kind of
the logistical things, especially when you are moving across a
state line and that and you're building a stadium in Kansas.
All of these stadiums, at least partially and at least
in some even indirect way involved tax payer money. Yes,
and so if you are in Kansas, your taxes are

(49:45):
now being affected by this stadium build, whether that's an
extra tax or tax breaks for the stadium. I don't
know the particulars of the deal that got done in
Kansas City, but I need to I probably should go
through it actually because of what's happening here in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
And then conversely, though, the state of Missouri is then
losing the revenue right that the Chiefs bring into that
state in particular. Yes, it's the same city, so like
it is kind of a unique scenario where you're still
the Kansas City Chiefs because you're still in Kansas City,
but now you're just in a different state. But the
logistical aspects of this, between the taxes and the revenue

(50:23):
and all of that kind of stuff, all the stuff
that comes with having a team.

Speaker 9 (50:27):
No, that that because optically they have the benefit of
Kansas City, but logistically no, And that's both very good points.
You do take that away from Kansas City, Missouri that
they have and you.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Lose and you lose the history. Arrowhead, like I.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
I really want to I Aarowhead is actually one of
like the four stadiums I've never been to.

Speaker 9 (50:47):
Me too, it's one of I think I have two
stadiums left and it's one of them.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I'm like, I need to get there.

Speaker 7 (50:51):
Yeah, uh, because it's really loud, and like part of
the construction of it and the way that it's built
is is to kind of keep the noise in and
it's why it gets so loud, like echoes around itself.
And I really want to experience that before they end
up moving. And it is hard to kind of lose
a piece of history of NFL history when a franchise
like the Chiefs is so steeped in NFL history, and

(51:14):
that stadium itself is so steeped in NFL history, which
brings me too.

Speaker 9 (51:18):
Really quick before we I have a real quick question
that I forgive my ignorance on this. How far is
the move? Like how far?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I only I think it's a few miles.

Speaker 9 (51:27):
Okay, Like I really, I'm just curious. It's not gonna
help with the taxes and the loss of tourism. I
just was kind of curious.

Speaker 7 (51:32):
No, I don't I don't know this this specific, Like
I was just looking it up actually, but it's only
like it's really it's it's close, okay, So like when
it comes to getting there, I don't think it matters.
But that also brings me to what's happening in Chicago.
Because I don't know how many people are familiar with
the geography of where Soldier Field is in relation to this,

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like where it's it's in the city, but where the
city is is like the south west corner of Lake
Michigan and Hammond, Indiana. Is it like the directly like
the south the southernmost point of Lake Michigan. So the
planned apparently planned site now for the Chicago Bears new stadium,

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according to Kevin Warren and George McCaskey Kevin warren S
team president, George mccaski, chairman, it's only about twenty miles
not even from the current side of Soldier Field.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
You can actually see.

Speaker 7 (52:33):
Hammond, Indiana on a clear day from the upper decks
of Soldier Field. So it's not so much that the distance,
like you were talking about when the Niners move from
when the Niners moved from Candlestick like it was an
hour difference, which is a significant difference. You're not necessarily
talking about that. You are, however, talking about a toll
way is extremely expensive. Uh, if you want to take

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it's called the Skyway, and it can be a six
to eight dollars toll.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
It's not nothing.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
If you're going back and forth, and you know, you
want to make sure make it more accessible, make these
games more accessible, less expensive, even though the Bears are
one of the most expensive game day experiences in the NFL.
But the biggest thing here is that Chicago. It's the
Chicago Bears and they are in Illinois. And this is

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what doesn't get brought up enough. And I think it's
just because a lot of people don't necessarily understand the
geography of the area. I want to keep bringing it up.
The Bears practice sixteen miles from the Wisconsin border. So
Hallis Hall is not going anywhere. Hallis Hall when you
talk about tradition and all of that other stuff. The
founder of the NFL, George Hallis, this was their site. Like,

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they are not moving from Hallis Hall, which is in
Lake Forest, Illinois, which is sixteen miles from the Wisconsin border.
It takes currently, in traffic, it can take up to
two hours to get to Soldier Field from where they practice.
On a good like without traffic, it's about an hour. Okay,
So if you add twenty five more miles in the
opposite direction and now in a different state, there is

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nothing Chicago about the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 9 (54:13):
Well, and I feel like, you know, there are certain
franchises that should be what they are, Like you can't
move the Green Bay Packers to Milwaukee, for instance, and
I feel similar in my opinion, and I'm not going
to be in charge of what happens with the stadium.
There's a Chicago Bears. They're an iconic franchise. There's so

(54:33):
much history, there's so much lore, and part of it
is that they are the Chicago Bears and they play
in Chicago, and so I have this This is one
that I take real umbridge with.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
It's well and the saga that has been a result
of this, because there's also a land that has been
purchased in Arlington Heights, which is a suburb of Chicago.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Which I would be okay with.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
Yes, that's because this whole area is known as Chicago Land.
So it's you're not gonna call them the Chicago Land Bears.
But like, it's fine. There are plenty of teams that
their stadiums are in a suburb of the city that
they represent. Yeah, that to me is fine. And people
argue that Hammond, Indiana is in fact somewhat of a
suburb of Chicago. I'm here to tell you nobody considers

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that here, like nobody considers it that here, and who
argues that the people that want to move to northwest
Indiana people in northwest Indiana. Fair enough, But the Bears,
the Bear's family, the mccaskey's, bought this land in Arlington Heights.
It was a former racetrack, and then they brought in

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Kevin Warren, the president, who is the one that helped
build Minnesota their stadium, and they're trying to get this done,
but they have no leverage with the state of Illinois
as far as the aforementioned tax breaks that I was
talking about when you talk about the logistical things, and what
also isn't getting kind of talked about enough because now
it is.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
There's been this legislative battle.

Speaker 7 (56:04):
Between the Illinois government and the Bears, but it's like,
I don't even want to call it a battle because
despite the fact that the Bears have hired lobbyists, have
hired people to do this, when you are asking for
a special were you when you were asking for a bill,
when you were asking for a special assessment, when you
were asking for a special meeting of the Illinois legislation

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you are responsible for that bill.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
You are responsible for drafting that bill and.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
Coming up with the bill and coming up with a
legislation and then presenting it to the State of Illinois
to have it passed.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
That is how that works.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
When you are asking the State of Illinois for a favor,
you have to bring them the favor you need them
to do. Okay, that legislation has not been drafted by
the Bears Illinois. Repeatedly, the Governor of Illinois repeatedly says
we have nothing from the Bears, and then the Bears,
in turn are saying we have nothing from the State
of Illinois.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
And I'm like, but it's.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
Your responsibility, Bears, to come up with something that is
amenable to both the State of Illinois and what you
are trying to accomplish and then present them with it.
The State of Illinois cannot call a special assess or
like session, a special session if you have nothing to give.
If you have nothing to give them, right, And it's

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like this blame is kind of being passed around in
this circular way, and we are no closer to even
understanding where the Bears are going to be building their
new stadium than we were at the beginning of this process,
which was all the way back in like I mean,
depending on when you want to go back to the
land was purchased in Arlington Heights in like twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three. It was finalized last year.

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And I'm like, we're already years into this and the
Bears can't tell us where they're going to build.

Speaker 9 (57:52):
And it's an unfortunate timing because you have a Bears
team that's really exciting, an exciting quarterback, and the momentum
is cute men, and this is not It's just really
unfortunate because it takes a little bit takes away.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
It does.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
And so now we're stuck in this limbo of the
Bears saying that they are focusing their sole effort on
the site in Indiana, but they're also still meeting with
Illinois lawmakers occasionally.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
And I'm like, well, then it's not your sole.

Speaker 9 (58:18):
Effort, yeah, occasionally, not your sole effort. Your sole effort
is something you're doing all the time.

Speaker 7 (58:22):
Right you your main effort, maybe, but it's not your
sole focus because you're if it was your sole focus,
then you wouldn't be meeting with Illinois anywhere. And you
would rule out Illinois, which they refused, Kevin Warren refused
to do, George mccaski refused to do at the press
conference this week. We're gonna talk a little bit more
about this with our second guest a little later on
in the show, because clearly, like I said, it's a saga,

(58:43):
but for right now, we need to take a break.
So on the other side of this, we're going to
talk a little bit more about the NFL logistics and
maybe some punishments and finds that are becoming an annual
tradition for these teams. So stick around. You're listening to Fox.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
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Speaker 7 (59:05):
Welcome back into Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Carna Vitally and
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Speaker 1 (59:42):
Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
You're so welcome.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
We do have actual things to actual games. Yes, oh games,
preseason games is a full weekend slate started honestly kicked
off on Thursday. When you had like six games on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
That was nuts.

Speaker 9 (59:58):
Yeah, that was that was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
But what came down on Friday were.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
Quite a few suspensions, yes, some NFL punishments. Atlanta Falcons
edge James Pierce Junior was suspended, most notably eight games
for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy. The defensive Rookie
of the Year finalist, he was arrested in February after

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he chased his then girlfriend in an suv. There were
some criminal charges that were initially he was initially charged. Legally,
it sounds like if he completes a pre trial intervention
program and stays out of trouble for six months, all
the charges will be dropped, but the NFL deemed that
he will be suspended for the first eight games of

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the season. You have Bill's defensive tackle Federian mathis three
games for violating the NFL's substance abuse policy. You have
cornerback and A. Z. Johnson out of Tennessee, who was
suspended six games for the same performance enhancing substances policy. However,
he came out and clarified in a moment of vulnerability.

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He took to social media to explain that the banned
substance was in fact a fertility treatment, as him and
his wife had lost their baby a few weeks ago,
but they were trying to expand their family, so that's hard.
And then Commander's Edge Dorance Armstrong Junior was suspended for
one game for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy because
he was arrested in Texas last year on misdemeanor charges

(01:01:34):
of assault.

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
So the Nazi Johnson thing, I I don't know. I
feel like there should.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Be That's what I was gonna say.

Speaker 9 (01:01:45):
There is some wiggle room, there should be some exceptions.
It just doesn't seem right. And maybe the argument to
that is, well, zero tolerance, but it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
He wasn't.

Speaker 9 (01:01:58):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:59):
I like, I understand that you need to be accountable
and for what you put in your body. You are
a professional athlete. You know that these are the rules.
These rules were given to you, they are drilled into
your head. As someone who worked in an NFL building,
I saw the documentation. I saw the things that went
home with these guys. I saw what was on their
apps and all that other stuff that said, you cannot
take these things. And you are a grown man and

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you are a professional, and this is you need to
understand what you're putting in your body, be careful about it.
I totally understand that, but I'm with you, Tracy. I
think that there is something that there needs to be
a little bit more. I don't know if it's like
even Leeway. I just think there needs to be more
subjectivity to what these substances were because taking a fertility

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like going through a fertility treatment because you're trying to
expand your family just isn't the same. And then the
punishments also, I feel like, need to fit the violation. Yeah,
because all of the legal things that are that is
happening that are happening with James Pearce. I mean, there
was a mountain of evidence and you can argue a

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lot told the cows come home about how he is
getting led off legally very easy given what he was
charged with doing, what there what there was evidence of
him doing. And you're telling me that Naze Johnson has
just two less games than that for trying to expand
his family.

Speaker 9 (01:03:32):
It's just not It just it doesn't sit right with
me because it's also different than when guys like I
didn't realize it was performance hancy, it was it was
a supplement that my trainer told me to take. Okay,
that's you know what then that I totally go with
the argument of their grown men and they know what
that This is different. I just think your subjectivity is
the perfect word. You nailed it. There should be some

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level of subjectivity.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Here, Yeah, and unfortunately there wasn't. And I get it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:56):
You can you can still make that a blanket statement
and say like, before you took these fertility drugs, you
should have cleared it with somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
And the adda YadA YadA.

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
But still, I also think that six games is a
hafty price. And I don't know if he can appeal.
I imagine he can, and I hope he does. But yeah,
that's what comes with preseason football, though, is all these
guys come back from break and it's like, hey, you
can't take this, you can't take this, you can't do

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that in the off season, and you're getting punished accordingly.
M But for now, let's go to Isaac in the
update studio to see what's happening right now in these
preseason games.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
Thank you, Carmen and Tracy. Speaking of being punished accordingly the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Chicago the way I was looking for it because.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Today at a regular field, they were hosting the Saint
Louis Cardinals. Highly touted Cardinals prospect Joshua Biaz made his
major league debut with the plate in the top half
of the first inning. Here was Chip Carry on Cardinals
TV swing high.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Five belted first pitch in the show Biad's Honors.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Bias came up for his second major league at bat
in the fourth inning, swag in a drive down the line.

Speaker 7 (01:05:15):
Did he do it again?

Speaker 8 (01:05:16):
That ball is gone?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
He's got two homers.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Bias Is third major league at bat came in the
sixth inning swing drive oil hit right, so sous came back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
That is gone.

Speaker 9 (01:05:31):
It is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
It is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Three honors for Bias major league history at Wrigley Field.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Joshua Bias, the first and Major League history to homer
in the first three at bats of his career, as
the Cardinals won it eight to four. Carmen and Tracy
have to believe me. I swear on my life, I
am not making up what I'm about to tell you.
I went back and double checked it to make sure
it is true. Social media will never surprise me. So yesterday,

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when it was announced that Joshua Biez was being called
up to the majors for the first time, an x
account that goes by at Bush MVP posted yesterday and
I quote, oh, for three three ks in his debut.
Never been more obvious. This guy is such a bum unquote.

(01:06:25):
I swear you can't make something like that up. I
went back, I double checked this cat at Bush MVP
posted that on social media yesterday. I am never deleting
that app anyway. We've got two NFL preseason games going
on right now. At Arrowhead, Chiefs and Rams tied at
six at halftime. Rams rookie quarterback Tys Simpson nine of

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eleven for seventy four yards in the first half. The
Saints up seventeen to six over the Jaguars with one
minute left in the first half. Earlier, the Bears blew
out the Browns thirty four to ten. Deshaun Watson played
the first hat did quite well, eleven out of fifteen
for one to twenty six. Shador Sanders started the second half,
was six of eleven for seventy nine yards with an interception,

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one of two Beanie Bishop Bears interceptions on the day.
Say that five times fast. The other one was off
of Dylan Gabriel. The Buffalo Bells rang in high Mark
Stadium with a twenty nine to fourteen win over the
Minnesota Vikings. Josh Allen six out of eight for one eleven,
including a nine yard touchdown pass to Keyon Coleman, and
the Minnesota Vikings beat the New York Giants thirteen to ten.

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Kyler Murray completed two out of three for ten yards.
JJ McCarthy four out of seven for thirty four yards.
Karmen and Tracy back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
To you, Thank you, Isaac.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
And what's really funny right now is I have a
TV in my office and it is playing an interview
actually of Deshaun Watson after it said game and you
want to know who's interviewing him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
And on my TV?

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
Is our next guest coming straight from Soldierfield. It's ESPN's
Courtney cronin court How are you?

Speaker 8 (01:07:59):
I am great low inception there if that's happening right now, I.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Literally I try to get a photo of it just
now where I was just like listening, like talking to
Courtney and seeing her, but not at the same time.

Speaker 9 (01:08:09):
Only you could do it, though, Courtney, You're the only
person who's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
You're it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
Really, You're the only one that's could be true.

Speaker 8 (01:08:16):
Thank you, Tracy. That is the kindest compliment that I could.
You know, time travel. No one else has done it yet,
so it's one you can do it that I've accomplished
in my life. But I am very proud of that effort.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
I'm about to share my nerd And Courtney is not
even going to get this because she hasn't even watched
the movies or read the books. But she is literally
Hermione Granger with the time turner, like she is going
back in time to add extra work to her load.
Because that's the only way that I could explain the
amount of places that Courtney is at any given time.

Speaker 8 (01:08:44):
That's fair, That's definitely, I haven't I mean I'm surprised,
Tracy that you didn't just gasped that I haven't seen
Harry Potter, because that's one of Carmen's biggest issues with me,
this being her chagrin I refuse to watch them but
maybe one day.

Speaker 9 (01:08:57):
Well, I didn't gas because just tells. She does tell
she's time traveling, so there's only so much a person
could do. But I have not read the Harry Potters
and I only saw the first movie, so the only
reason I knew what she was talking about is because
I knew Hermione is a character. But I have had
no right to gas audience.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Apparently, I get it. I'm a nerd. It's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
Everybody has their vice that happens to be mine and Courtney,
I wanted, if we're talking about vices and we're talking
about whatever throwing stuff at the wall, let's talk about
the Chicago Bears, and not just the preseason game they
just played, but the saga that continues with this week's
press conferences featuring Kevin Warren and George McCaskey saying absolutely

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nothing about this new stadium built.

Speaker 8 (01:09:49):
Yeah, you know, another day, another press conference, and the
weight continues with the stadium situation, and it's I would
say it's reached a boiling point, but you know, the
water's been bubbling now for three and a half years.
It's and that's that's the frustrating part. I get that
Illinois is a difficult state to pass legislation for a

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number of different entities trying to do that, but the
Bears have been met with a lot of resistance and
have not been able to get the legislation they need passed,
which is payment in lieu of taxes, the bill that
would have allowed them to pay a lump sum on
their property and Arlington Knights and not pay property taxes

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in Cook County which rise every single year. It's one
of the most expensive places to live, one of the
most expensive places to build and have businesses. And I'm
not here to get into a conversation of well, the
billionaire owners should buy their own stadium and fund the
whole thing top to bottom, whatever you think about that
as a completely separate conversation. However, what we learned from Friday,

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or rather Thursday's press conference is that there's only one
new piece of information. The Bears have a second site
in Hammond, Indiana that they are doing due diligence on
right now. So all that came away from that press
conference is that there's two sites and not one, and
it could be a megasite that would have the mixed
use development and the dome stadium if they even get

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to building it. But the problem remains they're still waiting
on Illinois. It is so obvious as much as they
have said this is not a leverage play. If the
deal was that good from Indiana, you would have been
gone by now. So now it just feels kind of disingenuous.
When Kevin Warren says the sole focus is on Indiana,

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George McCaskey reiterates the same, and then we hear that
Roger Goodell is privately meeting with lawmakers in Illinois the
next day. So which is it. That's information that if
I'm Indiana, if I'm Governor Mike Brown, if I'm the
mayor of Hammond, I'm pissed because you're using us to
try to get one last Hail Mary effort from the

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state of Illinois to keep you in and in the
state where you've played all your home games for the
last one hundred and six years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (01:12:05):
But the longer this thing goes on. The more I
question the league not stepping in to try to help
the Bears push this thing forward, because you've seen the
Buffalo Bills announce the new stadium and build a new
stadium in the same time that the Bears have done
nothing to break ground. You've seen other teams, the Kansas
City Chiefs are going to be going across state lines

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to Kansas and that's getting funded by the government over
in Kansas a big portion of it, about seventy percent.
That's a model that I think the Bears would like
to follow if they could, but it's just exhausting and
every fan that I talk to wants nothing to do
with the stadium conversation. They say, call me when the
shovels in the ground. I guess the good thing that
we heard from Kevin Warren is that there won't be
any more public declarations of timelines because he's been doing

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it for a couple of years and it just really
hasn't hasn't been a good look, and so much so
that his wife Greta told him, Hey, no more public timelines.
And it's probably the right play because they haven't done
enough to show progress. And yes, these things take time.
But then why did all these other stadiums in other
cities get built by other NFL franchises, and why are
the Bears the only ones who can't seem to get

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it done.

Speaker 9 (01:13:11):
It feels so kind of on brand for the Bears
and in a lot of ways, but not with the
way things have been going on the field. So I'm
switching gears a little bit because you look at this
Bears team, Courtney. Obviously, you ladies know better than anybody.
This was a very exciting team last year, overachieving team.
They're going to the season, They're gonna have a tougher schedule.

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Kobe Bryant, it was a huge offseason signing is now
out four to six months. As you look at this
team going into the season, Courtney, what is going to
be their biggest obstacle in repeating some of the magic
from last year?

Speaker 8 (01:13:47):
The defense letting them down today? You didn't see that
because they held the Browns to ten points and they
scored twenty four unanswered. But it's a preseason game. Take
it with a grain of salt. The secondary super banged up,
and we still don't really have questions on whether the
pass rush as is is going to be enough to
withstand the losses that they have on the back end

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of the defense and the investment that they didn't make
up front. So when Ben Johnson said in that interview
with The Athletic that he wants to be the highest
scoring offense in the NFL, that he wants to blowouts,
that he wants shutouts and shootouts, is what he should
have been saying, because it's probably what's gonna happen. Probably
what's gonna happen. They're gonna have to score a lot
of points to win games, and that's what happened last year.

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Take a look at the Cincinnati game forty seven to
forty two. That was the result of a defense that
was getting more injured by the day and not healthy
throughout the rest of the year. Not able to contain
a high powered offense. You're going to face more offenses
like Cincinnati than you are not in the NFL. So
I think it's a situation where they need to really

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dig deep to figure out do they need to make
a move on defense. And it's hard. It's hard to
say trade deadline. I believe it is November tenth this year.
There's a lot that could be done up until then,
But what are you willing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
To give up?

Speaker 8 (01:15:02):
If you're that confident in Caleb Williams in this offense,
then you're not panicking just yet. But that is the ultimate,
the ultimate blockade for them in not repeating as the
Vision champs, the defense letting them know becoming an issue
on doing the progress that they've made on offense.

Speaker 7 (01:15:22):
Yeah, that's my biggest thing is you can probably carry that.
The offense can probably carry this team in the regular season,
but when it comes to crunch time in the postseason,
provided you get there, how much do you trust that defense?
And I think you need to be thinking about that
at that November tenth trade deadline. Courtney, thank you so
much for stepping away. I know you're in the throes

(01:15:42):
of postgame right now dealing with all of that at
Soldier Field, but really appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Taking the time.

Speaker 8 (01:15:48):
Of course, thank you both. When I get home tonight,
I'll be watching some Harry Potter or not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Do it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:55):
Courtney, we could do it together.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Thank you. Bye, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Bye.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
That was Courny Cronin of ESPN. I would say she's
the bear supporter for ESPN, but she does so much
more like we said, she is everywhere, all the time,
all at once, so we appreciate her taking that time.
We are just about out of time, but we've got
one more segment after this, so stick around.

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Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
You're not gonna get me to talk when my favorite
my hype song is on you. Hear Chris Purfett snickering
over there. Our producer got Brandon Deutsch over there, Tracy
Sandler's with me. I'm Carmon vitally and this is legitimately
my hype song. Like if I need to hype myself
up before something, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Depeche Mode wrestling walkout song, yes, or like my am
I at that song? Oh yeah, yeah, this would be it.

Speaker 9 (01:17:04):
It'd be a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
It's fantastic. I don't know what it is about it.
I my parents.

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
My parents weren't even huge to patch my fans, but
like I took to them for whatever reason, and I
wasn't even like old enough to really appreciate them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
At the time that they were really popular. But oh last,
here we are.

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Speaker 7 (01:17:46):
Well, because it's essentially been a Fox Football Saturday, I
thought i'd round this out with we got some feel
good stories of the week, lol, Moments of the week,
Whatever made you happy, whatever made you smile, because I
think that that's needed more and more in today's world.
But I am going to go super generic with this,

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keeping with our kind of football theme for the day,
and just say that my field good story of the week,
Tracy mm hm is all of the rookies whose first
time it was stepping out onto an NFL field, Undrafted
free agents that got significant playing time in their team's
first preseason game, even highly touted draft picks that kind

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of reinforced the organization's belief in them to draft them,
whether that's a guy like Jan Strippling of the forty
nine ers who had had that incredible game the other night,
or a guy like Caden Davis who just went off
for the Chicago Bears, who like, people didn't know your

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name before you stepped onto that field today and now
they do. And that has to be a really, really
cool feeling. And it's just like the possibilities are unless
you've got your whole career in front of you, and
it is what you make of it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:06):
And I really couldn't agree with you more. And it's
really funny because my initial feel good story of the
week was a similar thing, and that we talk a
lot about preseason football. We've talked a lot about preseason
football today and we have often given the caveat but
it's the preseason. But it's the preseason. But for so
many of these guys, it may be their only chance
to play professional football. And for so many of these guys,

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as you said, it's an opportunity to show that they
belong in the league and that they deserve a spot
on a roster, on a practice squad to be here.
And so for them, it's not just the preseason. And
I think when you watch preseason football, even when you
see some starters in there, the excitement that comes with

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each play, it just shows I think for everybody who's
actually playing in the game, this is not just the
preseason for them.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (01:19:58):
And all so even if their career is as short
as one NFL preseason, that is so much more than
so many others.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
And when you talk.

Speaker 7 (01:20:10):
About just the filtration of football players that start in
high school and they go to college, and they play
in college, and then the percentage that like that dwindles,
and then the percentage into the pros dwindles even further
an exponential amount. And so to get onto an NFL
football field, I really I love that we kind of

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had the same idea here because it is such a
feat and such an accomplishment, and I don't want us
talking about it being the preseason and not counting to
take away from the fact that a lot of these
guys are living out their dreams just by stepping on
that field. And even if they get a fourth quarter,
you know, with three minutes to go, your team's already up,

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but you throw that touchdown, that is like nobody can
take that away from you.

Speaker 9 (01:20:58):
And you know who I saw it preseason football games today,
Odell Beckham Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Oh, sure did.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
And I was like, you know what, I respect that
he wants to still play. And he's like, yeah, I'll
be in the second quarter of a preseason game. You
know what. Good for him. I actually like that.

Speaker 7 (01:21:15):
I listen, there's some vets where I'm just like, Nope,
sit them down. I don't want them to get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Whatever. But if it's something like that where you're.

Speaker 7 (01:21:21):
Trying to make a comeback and you know you have
a good that's a really great way to show that
you have a great attitude about where you're at in
your career. You're self aware enough to know where you're
at in your career, and yeah, I'll play a second.
I'll play the second half of a preseason game. Good
for you, Adell Beckham Junior. Love that for you. Thank you,
and I love this show for you. Thank you for listening.

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