End Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio w/ Dan Beyer & Kerry Rhodes (Pro Bowl Week)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The game was today.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Carry I don't know about you, but I wish the
game was today. And it's not that I hate the
week off between the Super Bowl. I am just anxious
for Super Bowl sixty between the aforementioned Seahawks and Patriots.
Do you want the game today or do you want
to wait another week for Super Bowl sixty.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm okay with waiting another week. None of my teams
are there. I understand the excitement from you wanting to
see your Seahawks go to work on Sunday. And you know,
it's one of those things where I've been working with
you for a while, Dan, I've been around you for
a while. I haven't heard you this jovial in a moment.
So I'm happy for you right now. Man.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I just want to know what happens. That's what I
want to know.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I want to know what world I am going to
be living in as a sports fan in a little
more than a week.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is a week from today is Super Bowl sixty?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
And will the Seahawks be one of those teams where
people could start to say, oh, whenever they go to
the Super Bowl, they don't win, they'd be one of three.
Or you get into the multi victory super Bowl group
of winning two And that's what I'm just curious about
in terms of what world I'm going to live in.
What world are Seahawks fans going to live in after

(01:14):
this weekend? And I suppose the same for the Patriots,
although I don't know how much it really changes for
them with all of their their six Super Bowl titles,
but it is. It is just the fact that I
want to know what's gonna happen next week.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Why I'm so anxious for the game.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Well, the football guys are gonna have to honor you soon, Dan,
because you guys should already have multiple Super Bowl wins
in my opinion, and obviously one of them the heartbreaking
ones came against the aforementioned Patriots. Obviously, sure, and I
see this as a little bit of a redemption arc
for you guys to actually just go out handle business.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
You.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I feel that you know, you guys are the better team,
but you know, we'll have to see on next Sunday.
But this can be some get back for you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
There is there is a lot at stake aside from
just the Super Bowl, all the other Patriots will be
the first team to win seven Super Bowls. I don't
even think that that's really been talked about for breaking
that deadlock that they have with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
wanted to talk about the Bill Belichick Angele. I wanted
to talk about the Seahawks sale. You heard Manzie say
Clint Kubiak is going to be the new head coach

(02:16):
of the Raiders. I'm curious on how that affects the Seahawks,
but I want to give credit where credit is due,
and I want to bring in the entire crew on
this carry. So it'd be Shay, Chris and Monty at
the news desk. I saw this article done by the
Seattle Times Tim Booth. I don't know Tim personally. I
played golf with them once an a media thing up

(02:37):
in the Pacific Northwest. But I thought that his angle
on this was very unique and it got me thinking
about you guys, the members of this team, of this
show in what the Super Bowl meant for us when
we were a kid. He asked the variety of different Seahawks.
I mean he asked Michael Dixon, their punter, who was

(02:58):
from Australia, asked a bunch of guys, just what did
the Super Bowl mean to you as a kid. Was
it a big deal? Was it not a big deal?
And as you could imagine, the answers across the board
were vastly different people with different backgrounds. Some guys didn't
start to play football till later in high school, so
they didn't necessarily care. But I'm curious just about this

(03:22):
crew here because I think we've got a I'm from
the Midwest, I'm older than all of you, Carries from Alabama,
Shae Monsey from southern California, younger, Chris younger as well,
he's from the Midwest where I am. So we all
kind of touch these different areas. Because to me, the
Super Bowl was a huge deal. The super Bowl was

(03:44):
historic enough where even though in twenty years of the game,
it was a huge, huge deal. So I remember super
Bowl twenty one, twenty two. My first super Bowl that
I remember was Super Bowl sixteen, but it was the deal.
There were Super Bowl parties at my aunts.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Year.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
We would decorate the the living room with various NFL
posters and posters that meet we made when we were
twelve and thirteen and doing that stuff. All the nts
and uncles would come over and we would sit around
and watch the game, and back then there were usually
awful games.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Right. The forty nine Ers beat the Broncos fifty five
to ten.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, in Super Bowl twenty two, Broncos met the same
fate against Washington. It was a game for about a quarter,
but then it was a complete blowout. But still it
was a point in gathering and it was a really
really big deal to me and our family growing up.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
What was it like for you carry growing up again?
Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Yeah, it wasn't the huge deal until I was around
maybe nine, and I started to play football, and then
my dad started to kind of, you know, remove layers
of personal relationships that he had.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
And so it's ironic enough. It's a team that you
talked about a lot this year. It wasn't until the
Bills run when they went to the Super Bowl four
years in a row and couldn't get it done. But
I started to because I played, started to take more
interest in it. But also because my dad knew a
player and was a teammate of a player on the
Buffalo Bills in the early nineties, and that was Keith mckeller.

(05:15):
I talk to you about that, Yeah, Yeah, played tight
end and so I was you know, actually rooting for them.
I was a San Francisco forty nine er fan as
a kid, but wanting to see my dad's friend win
and so watching them lose year after year just gave
me heartbreak. We didn't have a big, big event or anything,
but that was time with with my dad and my
other brothers to sit down and just consume the sport

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that I was just starting to take interest in.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I would have to think it advanced your interest as well.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, you know, like if you know, if you're in
it and then you're seeing the spectacle and your dad knows,
you know, know, somebody who's playing in the game in
a way tells you that you can do that too.
On right, Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's a great way.
Manti at the news desk. Was the Super Bowl a
big deal to you growing up?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Surprisingly, I wouldn't say it's a big deal because we
weren't a football household. We were a hoops household and
a soccer household. Oh but every time the Super Bowl
came around, it didn't matter. There was a party. There
was a party, there was a gathering. We are watching
the Super Bowl. Who's playing? I don't care what are
the dips, what what are what am I eating?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Like?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
What's the snack situation? How what are my beverages that
I can have? So this is when I was like little,
you know what I mean. Like my parents still watched it,
still gathered, We didn't care.

Speaker 6 (06:31):
We weren't a football household. So it's just for fun.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I could see right now, Dan just bopping around.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Oh absolutely, And you know, I'd watch it like there
was something to cheer for, you know, because you can
enjoy it without knowing what's going on. And so it
was still a lot of fun. But I just cared
about the food and the drinks, you know what I'm saying.
And I still only really care about the food drinks there.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Were but there were people over right.

Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah, we would go somewhere. Correct.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, it's it's you know, you're a month maybe removed
from the holidays, if you celebrate Christmas and so you're
you're a month removed from that.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But it's it's not a birthday.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
You're not celebrating one person, but everybody gets together for it.
So I can I can understand just why as a kid,
even if you didn't care about the game, why that
would be fun? Ye Shay Mogan Guard, our executive producer,
super Bowl Memories.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Yeah, my family is very foreign, so to them, it
was just basically an excuse to party. So no one
was really watching the game other than me and then
maybe like two of the other sons and we would
sit down and watch it. But then it wouldn't even
get to a point because if honestly, if I'm if
the which obviously the Browns aren't in the super Bowl,

(07:40):
so if I'm not betting on the super Bowl, I
stopped caring. So then I'm going like, all right, well
full bar where the dips at kind of the same
as Mancy. But yeah, I know, it's just an excuse
to party for Persian people.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
And it's funny because there were Seahawks players in this
piece that were just like, yeah, I really didn't care.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
It wasn't like a big deal.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
You know, maybe you know, it'd be like a carry
situation where maybe they'd watch it with their parents or whatnot,
but that they really weren't even invested into the game.
Chris Purfett, you're a Midwesterner, You're younger than me. I'm
curious if it's a different generation or not.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, I look at it.

Speaker 8 (08:18):
There's a few things going on. I think for me,
Number one is like it is a football household I
grew up in, but like both my parents went to
college in South Bend, so it was definitely a lot
more of a college tint for a lot of the
football that was being watched. We did still go to
plenty of Super Bowl parties, to be sure. I think
the first Super Bowl I can remember seeing on TV

(08:38):
was Super Bowl thirty three. But there was a couple
of things going on. One was that I was kind
of nerdy and not as much into sports at the time,
and also that era of Super Bowls like thirty three onward.
For a while, they weren't good games. There's no other
way to really talk about it. A lot of them
were as like one team would take the lead and

(08:59):
they just sit on it for the entire game. There
wasn't a lot of drama, so there was a lot
more you know, focus on the ads. There was a lot,
and that was kind of the golden age of advertising
for the Super Bowl for like you know, the Budweiser
frogs and stuff. There was always about the food. So
and then I fell out of like football for a
while and I think really the first game I remember

(09:20):
of like the Super Bowls that I really enjoyed as
far as like, wow, this is competitive and I love
it was it was forty seven in twenty twelve. But
for a lot of the Super Bowls growing up, they
was kind of like it was an excuse for a party,
but they weren't great games. So I think people kind
of gravitated towards you know, the food, the ads, other things.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
There was a mix Chris ed Broncos, Falcons, Ravens Giants
super Bowl thirty five blowout Raiders, you know, getting blown
out by the Buccaneers super Bowl thirty seven. That's kind
of you had a transition where I thought every super
Bowl that I remember growing up was pretty much a
blowout except Bill's Giants. Yeah, and then it kind of mixed.
And then as of late, we've been four enough for

(10:01):
the most part. Last year wasn't the case, but we've
had really really good super Bowls. But the thing that
I that I kind of hear in all of our answers,
never did we necessarily say the matchup mattered?

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Right where where Now that's.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Become so much a part of it of when we're
talking about things, and to our old teammate here, John Ramos.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
All of us know John Ramos.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
John a little bit older than us, and I think
that this is maybe a reason why. But John sticks
to the point, like, who cares who's in the World Series.
It's the freaking World Series, right, And I think that's
how the Super Bowl is looked at by many of
us in this generation. So when we talk about what
is an exciting game or what could be the matchup,
maybe those things are are jaded in a way because

(10:47):
it didn't matter when I was growing up on who
was playing in the Super Bowl. Sure there could have
been better matchups. I remember when the Patriots upset the
Dolphins and we weren't gonna get a Bears Dolphins rematch,
and we didn't think the Patriots could hang with the
Bears and they didn't. But it didn't matter because it
was like while the Patriots made the Super Bowl. And
that's what I also find interesting in all of this

(11:08):
is we're getting together for the parties, but nobody cared.
Monty's families like, cancel it. It's Ravens Giants. We're not
partying this year, you know, Like, so we make such
a big deal about who's in the super Bowl and
and what's the matchup and what's the best matchup of
the final four? Right, and for so long it didn't matter.
And I just even I don't even know if those
conversations carry are real.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, I don't even know if those yeah, those conversations
back then, like you're saying, it wasn't a discussion. It
was just these two teams made the super Bowl, and
this is you know, this is what the product is
going to be. And I think now with consumerism being
so high and social media being such a sticking point
in our lives now and having all these kind of
off the wall, off base conversations that become polarizing because

(11:48):
so many people have retweeted or or talked about it,
it's kind of taken away from, you know, the teams
that are deservingly in the super Bowl because it's such
a gauntlet and it's so many How many years have
the two teams that people expected to go to the
super Bowl has been to the Super Bowl? I would
really want to know that. I think probably last year
maybe with the Eagles and the Chiefs possibly, but of

(12:09):
all the super Bowls recently, how many of the teams
coming into the year that were considered quote unquote the
top two teams have made it there. So that's that's
the thing that really should be celebrated about sports. It
is the ultimate unknown. Even if you think that team
is the team, they're probably not getting there.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, you're right. You look at our pick sheet that
we have in the studio.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Umber Listener isn't privy to it, but it's been talked
enough on the air. But just to give you a rundown,
each year, I put a grid up for people to
make their preseason picks. Yeah, they could pick the worst team,
the MVP and out on the Olympic as we call it.
But for our Super Bowl picks, we have what about
thirty names? Would you say on the grid, Carrie?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
One got a Super Bowl team, right, No one picked
the Patriots, No one picked the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Now, and you didn't even pick the Seahawks. Didn't say,
that's the thing, like, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I would have been considered a homer. But to be
quite honest, I didn't expect this. I thought they were
a good team. I thought they were going to make
the playoffs, and I thought that they could win a
game or two in the playoffs, but I didn't think
that they would be going to the super Bowl and
then going into the super Bowl as a four and
a half point favorite.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
There's none of that.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
So that tells you to your point of people who
expected and the teams that people did expect. If you
were to look on our sheet, and I think that
you would have a lot of people saying this were
Ravens Packers. Well, Ravens didn't make it, and the Packers
barely made it. Yeah, as the seventh seed, and then
we're ousted in the first round of the playoffs. So
there's yeah, there's just there's something about the game and

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it is exciting, and I just I thought that the
piece was so unique to see about the backgrounds, and
I wanted to know what the background of our crew
was in watching the game, and I think that there
are a lot of similarities. It may not be on
the importance of it, but there's the similarities of getting together,
of having fun, and it's something that you look forward to.
And with that, the matchups didn't necessarily matter.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Dan, would you call it? Would you say like the
super Bowl is like an all like holiday?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah, Yeah, it was it.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
I mean as well too, because you know, I bring
up the Christmas holiday and you'll navigate through the snow.
Where I'm from, this is late January, and that's when
the Super Bowls were taking place, you know, when I
was growing up, and when a lot of us were
growing up, they weren't going into February.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
So it's still cold and there's just there's not a
lot going on, but there was.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It was a beacon. It was something to look forward to.
It was all let's go over, let's watch the game.
We'll you know, throw some logs in the fire. And
it allowed everybody to get together and it was fun.
And for me as a sports fan, it was a
really really big deal. And sure, maybe I didn't like
to see the Bills go to four straight and lose
again and have the same teams, like I wanted different

(14:44):
teams to get into the mix, but it was still
the Super Bowl and it didn't make it any less important.
And I still remember that the Bills were leading on
halftime and the second time that they were playing against
the Dallas Cowboys, because you're like, wow, maybe this could happen.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
And they got blown out in the second half, but
rest was over.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
But I just I think it's so unique in all
of our experiences, and I hope, I just hope that
the younger generation. My son is four, I want to
make sure that he knows how big of a deal
that the Super Bowl is, that it continues and carries
on and has those moments.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah, oh for sure. No, I love that. Dan, that's
a great topic as well.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
He is carry Rhodes. I'm Dan Byer. It is a
Fox Sports Sunday. Manci Belanios is here. In thirty minutes,
you'll have, according to Manci, Shay Morgan guard I'll tell
you what.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
We may just have to let Shay go because.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
He's been here forever, but he's at least holding on
for the time being, and hopefully we'll be hanging out
with us for at least the next thirty minutes or so.
Plus Chris Purfett is on the board. We got a
little easy as one, two, three, four. Coming up later
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Speaker 1 (16:03):
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
We are almost there, all week away from Super Bowl sixty.
But this is the weekend He's carry roads. I'm Dan Beyer,
mister Allpro carry Roads. This is the weekend that the
tweeters in late July or late August always hates when
they say there will be football every Sunday until early February.

(16:38):
And we have reached that point. It is a weird feeling,
but it is one that we must get used to.
It is a point to the calendar. We've turned it
to February now, but a no football weekend. But that
doesn't mean we don't have drama in the football world.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
It's insane when you think about the journey we go
on with the NFL and football, and you know it's
it's It's not like it's a short time, but it
seems like it's such a short time because there are
games every week, and then there are multiple games every week,
and so you get used to that, uh, that little
that little comfortability knowing that I don't have anything to

(17:16):
do today, Well, yeah I do. I can watch football,
and that's not the case this Sunday. But man, you
know what it's been, It's been an incredible, incredible year.
To be honest, There's been a lot of talk about
a lot of things. And I also think that you know,
even for the casual fans or people that aren't you know,
like real real fans of the NFL now just having
no talking points beyond mute and having to manufacture these

(17:39):
talking points, it's it is an unusual time.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
This week has given us talking points more so than
other times. And I think specifically what has happened this
past week is the news of the Bill Belichick Hall
of Fame snub. YEP, kind of overtook everything. It was
the topic of conversation for a good twenty four to
forty eight hours. This story didn't die. Voters were trying

(18:04):
to reveal their votes. Then we have people saying, this
is why I didn't vote for Bill Belichick, and it
was an ongoing discussion. It also did is it kind
of took the air out of the room for some
of the other bigger stories. One of the bigger stories
was in Denver the bit of a clapback from b
Nix on the comments made by Sean Payton about the
surgeries that bon Nicks had. Sean Payton talking about how

(18:29):
this was an injury that was bound to happen, that
when the doctors went in and looked at the ankle
of bo Nix, that there was something there that was predisposed.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
So when Peyton's.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Words says it was not a matter of if, it
was a matter of when Bonnicks not only refuted that,
said that Sean Payton doesn't know how many surgery he
has or hasn't had on his ankle. And it was
an interesting It was an interesting week in Denver for
the fact of this was a season that for them
there was no doubt a success, but yet bittersweet considering

(19:03):
how it ended and how.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Close it was to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
But I don't know how you can't look back on
this season and think it was a success. And now
seventy two hours after they were ousted from the postseason,
there seems to be some drama in the Myle High City.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, it's kind of like the recurrent thing around Sean
Payton's team. There's always going to be an excuse at
the end of the day because obviously he hasn't won enough.
I think with all the success that he has had,
which he is a successful coach, he is a really
good coach, but he hasn't won enough. And so when

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you have these already built in ready responses for why
you didn't get it done, that's kind of how I
kind of feel about it. I mean, the three er
quarterback got didn't say it was gonna happen. It was
bound to happen. It's just so you're willingly putting somebody
in danger to go out and play to win games
for you, but you have no real affinity for that individual,

(19:58):
because if you do, then you will me putting him
out there if he was gonna eventually hurt himself, right like,
And obviously the player has a voice in saying if
he's gonna play, which he's gonna play. I'm not saying that,
but I'm saying, if you know this is going to
ultimately happen. Why would you let that out immediately after
and not, you know, not you could have said that
weeks ago, that he's been dealing with this or whatever,

(20:20):
if you really was trying to, you know, have a
conversation about that. I just think for him it's always
about kind of saving face or having that built in
excuse go ahead, go ahead, dad.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
No.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I it's funny because I took it differently, but I
come to the same conclusion as you, Like, I don't
know why Sean Payton was saying what he was saying,
except I think maybe shedding some light. But for for
Bonnicks to have to take offense to what he said right,
tells me that there's just a there's a bigger thing

(20:53):
happening there, like to dispute the number of surgeries. I
don't know if Bonix thinks that could hurt him come
contract time. And I think that would be information that
the Broncos would know, or you would know privately, or
the conversations that they would have privately with someone like
Sean Payton and others in their front office and.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Negotiating that sort of deal.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I don't know if Bonnix feels that he wouldn't then
curry public favor because people say like, oh, he's always
got ankle injuries or he's had this. But I just
thought it was a weird thing to get mad over that.
There may have been other things that I've gone on,
and now that the season is over, now that the
emotions are raw, and let's be honest, if Bonnix plays

(21:34):
in that game, I think Denver wins. I think Denver
wins that game against New England this past weekend. So
you know, you're probably saying to yourself, what if, what
could have been? And everything is raw, but then that's
when the realness comes out. That was the surprising part
to me is I don't think that Sean Payton was
out of pocket or out of turn and saying what
he said. It's that bon Nicks took it so personally

(21:57):
that he needed to respond on his own to say
that that's not happening. That makes me feel that there's
something else going on under the surface that we don't know.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's a blind it's a blind side hit, Dan.
It's something that you just you hit it on the head.
I mean, it's obviously been discussed amongst the organization, the
head coach and the people that are you know, in charge.
So if they're kind of harboring those I don't want
to say hard but that's not the right word. But
if they're concealing those conversations, and then you two weeks,

(22:26):
three weeks, three weeks after the game, you well, two
weeks after the game, you lose to get to the
super Bowl. And now these reports are coming out or
leaking out from the guy that you probably should trust
the most, your head coach, and you're on the men
from that said injury or that an that ankle surgery.
Of course you're going to be raw and sensitively sensitive
about it. And then you said it like the ramifications

(22:48):
of that. Right, everything is taking into account when we're
talking about paying somebody a whole lot of money to
be on your team, and especially a quarterback, to be
your franchise quarterback, and to kind of have that as
a the underlying assessment of who he is and where
he could be moving forward, that's gotta hurt.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's got a thing. I told Kerry that I've always
liked Sean Payton because the reason being is there was
a time here on Fox Sports Radio where we were
filling in on a show and I just came up
with a new segment. It was called danger Zone. It
was basically so we could play Kenny Loggin's danger Zone
on the air, but it was kind of a rapid

(23:28):
fire question sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I only have done it once. I've been at Fox
Sports Radio twenty and a half years. I only did
it once, and it was with Sean Payton and he
played along. So I was like, awesome, Like, Sean Payton
is playing along with my danger Zone game and it's
the only time I played it. Maybe I retired it
carry because it was so good.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I was just about to say, Dan, that's a shame
you missed out on some fun with me and Monty
and Shaye and Chris because you want to just give
it to Sean Payton.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Think about this.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
He's probably doing like twelve different radio interview that day
for whatever product that may have been, and he comes
on to one and I put him in the danger Zone.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
But he played along with it.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
He told me that he looks at mock drafts that
people put out throughout the year.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, and so I was like, all right, good, he's
playing along. Now.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
With all of that being said, I can understand why
Sean Payton can ruffle some feathers. Yeah, and this is
now though, worth looking at. And what I find so
intriguing about this because this is a whole picture of
Sean Payton. Sean Payton and Drew Brees were tied at
the hip, yep, for as much for as much power
as Sean Payton had. Drew Brees had just as much,

(24:36):
if not more. And so that you know, Drew Brees
ends up ends up leaving Saints, tried to do what
they do. Peyton then ends up stepping away and then
that's broken. So then Peyton ends up taking the year off,
and I thought he wanted the Chargers job didn't work out.
He goes to Denver and then Russell Wilson's at Denver,
they are not tied at the hip. No, they may
have as much equity and sweat and accomplishments in the game,

(24:58):
but Russell Wilson's game was not what it once was.
So it was a power play, right, And so we
see the exchange that they have on the sidelines and
Wilson not fighting back, not barking back, and we're saying, man,
Russell Wilson just kind of being a puppy not saying
anything in that situation. Well, now I have bo Nicks
come in. He doesn't have nearly the equity of Sean Payton,

(25:19):
but he barks back to Peyton. And now we look
at that, you know how we look at that, Look
at that young quarterback that you know Peyton wants you
to do that.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I'm not sure he does right now.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
And I'm thinking now that now I look back at
those barkings that he has done, and I'm like, maybe
there's more to that. Maybe this just isn't you know,
veteran head coach and player having words on the sidelines
and it happens every sideline. That's how I have taken
some of these bo Nicks Sean Payton, and there have
been multiple interactions between the two, but I've taken that
as hey, old coach, young quarterback, oil and water maybe

(25:54):
you know, but they'll figure out a way to make
it work. Now, with Bnicks saying this in that situation
and taking you know, offense to the things that Sean
Payton said, I look at those interactions different and now
wonder how much is bubbling under the surface in Denver.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, That's why I don't believe in super like older
head coaches being head coaches later in the later in
their careers. Like, you get a couple of chances to
do this thing. And I'm not saying don't you know,
don't go out and try to get a job, but
like the the the I guess the personalities of the
older generation, the Sean Payton's the coaches, the John Harballs,

(26:31):
you know I've talked about like the older and the
Pete Carroll's, the older head coaches. They can't relate to
these guys anyway. And so like you're trying to have
this the same kind of relationship that Sean Payton and
Drew Brees had, it's just not going to be there
because of it's a why, it's a wide gap of
knowledge and life that's happened between the two or between
the team and that said older head coach, and so

(26:55):
there's a that's there's just a natural disconnect. And then
you have an arn Rey head coach and Sean Payton
he's seen it. I'm not saying he's that way all
the time, but he presents himself that way in this
dictatorship role where yeah, it's fine if you're going to
manage the team and be like a and I would
say be like a John Harball type. But when you're
the guy that wants to have the pulse of the

(27:16):
team and have the pulse of your quarterback be connected,
and you want Son Peyton to be that guy, I
just don't think he's that guy anymore to forge those
relationships that we saw with him and Drew Brees back
in the day.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Anyway, it's going to be interesting to see how things
play out. Because the Broncos did fire Joe Lombardi. Davis Webb,
the quarterbacks coach, interviewed for head coaching gigs and is
in line to be their offensive coordinator as he interviewed
for the job. There comes another spot where you know
Peyton's in his early sixties. I know Mike McCarthy was

(27:48):
just hired in Pittsburgh. With here Davis, they could have
a situation, Carrie, where you have Davis Webb as your
offensive coordinator, advance Joseph is staying is your defensive coordinator.
And I know Joseph had the head coaching job previously,
but you may have two future head coaches as your
coordinators on your hands. And if you're Denver not saying

(28:09):
it's coming to this. But if bon Nix isn't happy
with your quarterback and you feel with your head coach
and Bonix is your future, it's something worth watching because
as the NFL seems to get younger and younger at
the head coaching position, except in Pittsburgh, there's there's something.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
To watch there where all right, where does owners ownership side?
Do they side with the quarterback? Do they side with
the head coach?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And you would have two possible candidates if you wanted
to keep that you know that that role going. I'm
not saying Sean Payton's gonna get dismissed after this year,
but if there's friction next year because of what we
saw in the first week of their offseason, and maybe
something Denver has to has to look at moving forward.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Yeah, Dan, I mean that's a great point you think about.
Like even Lamar Jackson, right, his new OC is what
the same age he is, right, Like having those relationships
and being able to relate and talk to those guys
and talk about like mine things and you know, just
on everyday life like they're connected because they're going through
this experience together. It's a shared experience, right, and that's
I think that's why relationships matter in that league. It

(29:11):
probably matters the most. I mean, obviously x's and those
is important, But if the relationships of guys don't like
each other, you're not going to take that extra mile
to be to be the best that you can be
because you're tied at the hip, and those wins and
losses are aren't just on one of you, it's on
both of you. And I think when you're throwing people
under the bus constantly in the media, that just leaves

(29:33):
a crazy, strange taste in your mouth. And then you
have a quarterback that you picked, This is the guy
you wanted. Why would you put him out there on
front Street like that. It's just a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, it's weird, especially when you know so many teams
try to cater to their to their future quarterback, their
star quarterback, and it's almost like Sean Payton just couldn't
help himself. But again, I don't think he's I don't
think he said anything that was awful awful.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
I was surprised that Bonek responded in the way that
he did, which tells me there may be more bubbling
under the surface.

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latest from the news desk of what is going on
today on this non football Sunday.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
What's going on? Manzi?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
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Speaker 6 (30:47):
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Speaker 4 (30:51):
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Speaker 6 (30:55):
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Speaker 4 (31:00):
I'm glad you guys are finally in on all the
fun not a football Sunday, per se But a lot
going on, but we will start. In the NFL, it
seems like all of the teams have found their coaches.
The Cardinals are planning to hire a Rams offensive coordinator,
Mike Lafleur, to.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Be their next head coach.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
The Raiders are expected to hire Seahawks offensive coordinator a
Clink Qbiac to be their next head coach. This is
after the Super Bowl, of course, and the San Francisco
forty nine ers are hiring former Falcons head coach Rahie
Morris to be their new defensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
In the NBA, one game going on right now, and.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
It has been all Celtics since like the second quarter
and on against the Bucks, but Boston is up ninety
three to seventy two with about six minutes to go.
Jalen Brown a double double, four Boston twenty two points
and twelve rebounds still to come. In the NBA, no
James Harden for the Clippers tonight due to personal reasons.
They are playing the Suns in Phoenix. That is, no
Bueno Kawhi, Leonard bogdan Bogdanovic are expected to play though

(31:56):
for LA. When it comes to the Lakers, Austin Reeves
who has missed the eighteen games with the CAF injury,
is going to be a true game time decision to
take on the Knicks.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
At Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
When it comes to men's college hoops, you can catch
all the action on FS one. It's a close one
with eight minutes to go. Number nine Illinois is up
on number five Nebraska.

Speaker 6 (32:15):
Fifty eight to fifty two.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
In baseball, this just In the Reds are signing Elhanniel
swatt Is to a one year, fifteen million dollar deal
with a mutual option for the twenty twenty seventh season.
At the PGA Tour at the Farmers Insurance Open, Justin
Rose has been in first place after every round.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
He still is under twenty three under, twenty three, twenty
three under, thank you, twenty three under. Overall, he's been
in first place the whole time. He's about to win this.
He's got one more hole to go.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
And when it comes to the NHL, the Hurricanes are
leading the Kings to to one with about five minutes
to go in the third period.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Back to you guys, so there's a stadium series game
to that to the Bruins and Lightning, did you see
how they came into the stadium, Yes.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
As Patriots. Is that what we're talking about? That was Boston.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yes, you see how the Lightning came in?

Speaker 6 (33:01):
No, how did they come?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
They were led by Baker Mayfields and the entire team
was wearing Buccaneer creamsicle uniforms. The entire Tampa Bay Lightning
were dressed up in the Buccaneers cream circle.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
I loved that. I didn't see. I saw the Bruins
come in as our Patriots.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, they're dressed in their best seventeen hundreds garb Yeah,
and the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
In their best nineteen eight.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (33:27):
I did not not have to go look that up.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yes, it is magnificent, little outdoor hockey. Yeah, tonight, all right,
Monty's got According to Manzie coming up next to his
carry roads, I'm Dan Beyer coming up in about forty.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Minutes or so.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
We'll be talking with our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan, will
get his thoughts on the two hires, why there were
no minority hires, as well as there were ten vacancies
in the NFL, all now have been filled.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
We think we're done with the coaching.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Cycle, but we'll ask Adam Kaplan, how the final two
went down in so much more. He is Carry Roads.
I'm Dan Byer. That's next year on end Zone Radio
on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Radio end Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer.
He's the all pro Carry Roads. Hit him up by
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Dan Byer on Fox Big. Thanks to a technical producer
Chris Purfett our executive producer Shay Mogan Guard both have
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Speaker 1 (34:28):
But there's still some work to do.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
It's a segment we call according to Manzire.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
And now it's time for absolutely that's it's like to be.

Speaker 9 (34:39):
Pretty according to Mansi, I love it.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Monty's at the news. Come on, do you have to
question everything?

Speaker 6 (34:46):
One have to question everything? Where'd you get that one from?

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Better?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
I do like that one. That's a good one, all right.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I like that one a lot better than mine. So
I like mansi drops better than mine.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I will say that.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
You don't like the hold on, hold on the First
time I heard that drop, I was like, Where's Dan
did you tell me to hold on.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Nope, no, according to Mancy, stop making excuses.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Uh huh, stop it and stop it so overnight, in
case you missed it, twenty two year old Carlos Altkraz
defeated thirty eight year old Novak Djokovic in the Australian
Open to complete.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
A career Grand Slam.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Congratulations to al Kraz, but that's not what this is about.
Before getting to the final, Djokovic had to play a
four plus hour match against Yanick Sinner.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Then he gets to the final, doesn't win.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
But after the game, you know, he said, I knew
I was probably gonna have to be both of them.
I knew it was gonna be hard. I got further
this year than I did last year. But you know what,
that's not enough for me. It's encouraging. I'm gonna keep
pushing see if I can get another chance. That is
how you're supposed to talk. No excuses. Doesn't bring up
the fact that maybe playing tennis is harder nowadays. Lebron

(36:09):
James just this week said that playing the eighty two
games is harder than it was back in the eighties
and nineties. Stop the excuses, Lebron I don't know who
needs to hear this, but Djokovic the goat just surpassed
a lot of y'all's go lebron Ooh.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I like wow, Yeah, I like Novak a lot. I
think he's been so good and so instrumental to the.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Game for you and does it again? Was like I
did better than I thought, Still not good enough. Yeah, like, oh,
that's owning. That is how you're supposed to act. That's
how you're supposed to speak when you've been around the
sport like that. Yeah for so long, st making excuses.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
And Carlos Alkaiz played a five and a half hour match.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
Yes, well it was that as well. Incredible way to
go Djokovic.

Speaker 9 (36:53):
According to Mancy, don't just talk the talk.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, don't just do that.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
Okay, guys, you know there's a lot of people out
there that are very lucky enough to own sports franchises,
and all these owners constantly tell me it's about the fans.
We wouldn't be here without the fans.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
The fans are why we do this. But yet all
I see is prices.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Go up, up, up, up in everything, or unless your
team sucks, then the prices go down.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
All of a sudden. That is not what Matt ishba
Ishbia for the Suns is doing. The Suns are good
and this guy is actually taking care of the fans.
He rolled out a new concessions menu.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
You guys, you can get water, soda, popcorn, chips, and
hot dogs for ten dollars.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
All of that will cost you ten dollars. Everything is
two bucks.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Because he was like, there's a family of four that
used to have to pay about one hundred dollars to
get a hot dog of water and popcorn. Now it's
about twenty four dollars for them to be able to
come to the games. And then the best part is
like fans are gonna still spend money. They're just now
gonna go buy a sunshirt. Now they're just gonna buy
a Dylan Brooks maybe pushed all. I don't know what
they have over there. I'm just saying he's not your

(38:00):
you know, talking, he's walking the walk that these owners
are constantly saying.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Way to go, Matt. That's amazing, incredible.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
She is here for the disrespect.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
According to someone.

Speaker 9 (38:15):
First day, according to.

Speaker 11 (38:18):
I've done this before too, according to months, Hey, according
to monthy what? According to months, Oh, I.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Am so here for the disrespect. I didn't think I
would be, did you guys?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
See Pepsi's new ad, Pepsi is bringing out a coke,
a Coke zero, a Pepsi zero can.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
So what has coke been associated with over the years.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Polar Bears, Polar Bears and coke. Those are the commercials
they just brought it. A commercial where a Polar Bear
does a blind taste test and picks pepsi, then talks
to a therapist, and then at the end of the commercial,
it's two Polar Bears at a concert like the concert
at Coldplay with those two people that got caught, but
instead of being caught because they were, you know, not
supposed to be with each other, they get caught holding

(39:03):
pepsi's and they don't.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
They just cheers to the fans.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
The disrespect is so good.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Because, let's be real, coke is better than pepsi. Coke
is better than pepsi.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
But this ad, the disrespect is so good that I'm
gonna go try that Pepsi zero can. I know it's
not gonna be better than coke zero, but you're gonna
get me to try it because that ad was hilarious
and I am here for the disrespect.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I love it, love it. I love that. That's actually
really clever and really cool. And it's it's it's friendly banter.
It's a friendly disc. It's it's not even.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Correct, it's so and clever. Like you said, nowadays we
see boring commercials. This one hit the spot again. I
don't care for pepsi, but I'm gonna go try this.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Now hit the spot like that. PEPs zero is gonna
hits zero has better.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
We'll see. We'll take a pepsi challenge. I've been wanting
to do it for a year or so.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I'm I'm down for that to We're gonnad dress up
as Polar Bears.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
All right, Yeah, that's according to Manci, the Bills have
a new head coach. That's next On Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (40:11):
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Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio getting set for Super
Bowl sixty. Also talking a lot about what's been going
on in the NFL and the Buffalo Bills Carry Rhodes
found a new head coach came in the form of
their offensive coordinator, Joe Brady. As you heard Monty say,
all ten of the vacancies now filled in the National
Football League. While it's not official in Las Vegas, it's

(41:05):
likely going to be Clint Kubiak after the Super Bowl
that the Seahawks play against the Patriots, so he'll leave
Seattle after one season, and Mike Lafleur leading or leaving
the Rams but staying in the division as he's going
to be the new Cardinals head coach. And it has
been pointed out Kerry about the lack of minority hirings,
and it's a complete shutout. Ten hires, zero African Americans hired.

(41:30):
In terms of this hiring cycle, we've Pittsburgh Steelers had
second interviews with Brian Flores, Anthony Weaver had a second
interview in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Ultimately it goes to Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But as you hear the news, what are your thoughts
on the lack of African American assistants to get head
coaching jobs this cycle.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, the African American topic when it comes to head
coaching is always a polarizing one. You know, guys are
going to hire their friends and hire people like and
you know, I tend to take that stands more than
not giving it to the guy because of his skin
color or being a minority. I just want to believe
in that stuff. And again, I mean the fact that

(42:13):
some of these guys got second, second interviews, that means
they were seriously in the mix. And also, you know
that in itself gives me a little bit of reprieve
when it comes to, you know, actually hiring one of
those guys to be the leader of your franchise. But
I mean it's just like any other field for me.
I see it a lot. I've seen it enough to
know that you're going to hire the people that you like.

(42:34):
I don't think it ultimately depends on the person that
looks like you. I just think you're gonna they have
relationship with these guys and they want these guys to
be there their leaders. The only thing I would say
is when you recycle some of these guys, the guys
that just left, like a John Harball or you know
Stefanski in Cleveland, like, yeah, give that a rest, and

(42:56):
then some of those jobs could be some of those
minority jobs. But yeah, I don't. I don't have a
a perceived notion that they're not being hired because they're black.
I don't. I don't feel that way.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
There's someone like Nate Schielhouse who got interviews for the Rams.
He's likely now going to be their offensive coordinator. Maybe
too young for the.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Job, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I was surprised that Pittsburgh went the direction that they
went with Mike McCarthy because so much has been made
about the previous hires, because there've been so few with
the Steelers and what they've they've looked for in their candidates.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
And Chuck Nole was young.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
You know Bill Kauer who was young neuror or you
know young ass if you will, and Mike Tomlin was young.
And when those guys were brought in, they're also brought
in on the defensive side of the football, and so
I kind of thought that that's where they would go
with their interviews, and they had I believe three second interviews.
Brian Flores was one, Anthony Weaver was another. That's why

(43:58):
I brought him up, and Mike McCarthy. And Mike McCarthy's
the exact opposite of everything that the Steelers had looked
for in their previous coaching searches, no matter how few that.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
They have been.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yet we look at it and we say, well, he's
a Pittsburgh guy like that. But like, that's like, to me,
that's not necessarily, you know, should be the winning factor.
I think it's a it's a great story for Mike McCarthy,
but I was I was just surprised in stuff like that.
And I think that when we rely and we go
back and we say, well, yeah, he's a Pittsburgh guy,

(44:30):
of course, it makes sense. It ignores some of the
issues that are taking place. So even like in Miami,
Jeff Hafley goes and takes over for Mike McDaniel, he
gets the job because the Dolphins hired John Eric Sullivan
as their general manager and they.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Are both work together in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
So like that to me makes more of makes more
sense than maybe some of the other positions that we
have seen. I'm not going to take that one in
Miami and throw it away. It actually seems to make
a like a business smart front office decision, where some
of the others I'm not so sure about. But in
saying that, and you can you can respond, yeah, you know,

(45:07):
to to that point, carry if you want.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, but uh, actually I'll.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Just I'll let you do it if you want to
respond to it, because I was going to shift gears
to the Buffalo hire and actually on why I liked
Joe Brady so much. But if you have anything to
say about just the point of you know, what Miami
did versus what Pittsburgh did, feel free.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Yeah, but the Miami thing, right, like you just said
it and I said it too. It's relationships. They know
each other, right. And you think about Baltimore, Mentor's been
in Baltimore, Like there's ties there, there's relationships that have
already been built there.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Obviously he has his coaching Ackerman and what he's done
and you know in miss I mean in Michigan and
then going to the Chargers. I mean, he's a bright
mind and then he has a relationship. All right, It's
like those ties are going to be there. You talk
about Mike McCarthy, he's a Pittsburgh guy, even though that's
don't I don't think I think we both would say,
I don't know if that would be the perfect hire
for Pittsburgh, but he has ties there. Right, This is

(45:57):
going to be different than what they they're used to.
They're used to having got be there for twenty years.
Mike McCarthy's not going to be there for twenty years,
so that is so that is different, right, Yeah, But
that's it. I mean, that's really what it boils down to.
People hire who they know and who they want to
be around. So the Bills kind of did that. They
knew Joe Brady and so when they fired Sean McDermott,

(46:18):
we had wondered it was a bit later in the
coaching cycle some of the coaches that we had maybe
considered as possibilities for them and already taken jobs.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Kevin Stefanski was a name. There's you know, John Harbaugh's
name thrown out as well. I like the Joe Brady hire,
and I think that I got criticism this past week
because it put everything on Sean McDermott's shoulders, But I
don't think that's necessarily wrong. I think when you're Buffalo
and you're looking to take that next step with Josh

(46:46):
Allen as your quarterback, this is the step that you take.
And I think that Joe Brady, ultimately, whether it have
been this year, whether it have been maybe next year
or another year, was going to be a head coach
in the National Football League. So what I like with
what Buffalo did was that they promoted within. I don't
think it ruins the continuity of what their offense was

(47:09):
with the best rushing attack that they had in the
NFL this past season. If you added playmakers at the
wide receiver position, or just one playmaker at the wide
receiver position, we could be looking at a totally different team.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
And you're not abandoning an assistant who helped.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
You at least you know, get to the point where
your offense was the best rushing offense in the National
Football League.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
I don't mind the higher.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
In fact, I like the higher for what Buffalo did,
even if it had to come at the expense of
Sean McDermott.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
You bring in Jim Leonard. Now it's your defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Whom anything is you know, could be a star in
the making as an assistant, maybe you'll be an NFL
head coach one day. I know when he took over
at Wisconsin on an interim basis as their head coach,
a lot of Badger fans wanted him to stay as
their head coach.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
They hire Luke Fickel, and then Leonard went to Illinois
and now into the NFL. The point being is that
I like what Buffalo did to keep consistency on offense,
and now you're bringing a new defensive coordinator that is
that could be on the verge of something big to
try to turn around the defense that really hasn't stopped
much over the last year.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, when you hire in house like that, all that
tells me is number one, the guy that was in control.
There's a disconnect with the management, right, So if the
relationship failed, sour in a way, or there's disagreements, you
ex out that disagreement or that that relationship with Sean McDermott,
and you promote in house to say what you just say, right,
keep some continuity, give your franchise quarterback somebody that he

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trust and wanted to be around.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
There.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
There was interviews throughout the season where you know Josh
Allen was lobbying against Joe Brady getting a head coach
and job because you know that's they have that type
of relationship. So that makes sense. But I think the
ultimate thing with me is what Brady said in the
in the press conference. Right there, you could tell there's
a disconnect with him in McDermott because what he said

(49:00):
was instead of you know what ownership said about Keon
Coleman and not wanting to possibly take that guy at
that spot, the thing that Joe Brady said in his
introductory press conference is the best the person that's going
to benefit the most from me being the head coach here,
it's Keon Coleman. And so you can tell there's disconnect
and internally about what that player represents and what that

(49:21):
team represents. And so I'm actually excited to see what
he can do and if he can unlock that that
that thing, because you talk about it getting new playmakers,
they may have one in house if he's able to
press the right button. So I'm excited to see that.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I also and I hate to bring up the Lions
in the situation, but I felt it was I felt
this was the case in Dallas. Dallas ultimately ended up
hiring Brian Schottenheimer to replace Mike McCarthy, But there was
a point when Kellen Moore was thought to be the
heir apparent and in Dallas, and I wondered if Dallas
would be willing to move off of Mike McCarthy when

(49:56):
he was early in his tenure in Dallas too, from
vote Kellen Moore to be the head coach. Now what
ended up happening is more ended up parting ways with Dallas,
and then McCarthy leads the Cowboys to believe Dak Prescott's
best year as a quarterback that he's had statistically in
the NFL. And Kellen Moore ends up finding his footing
with the Eagles last year and comes back to being

(50:17):
a head coach and is now leading the Saints, and
your boy, Tyler Shook and the Saints are building up
a Kellen Moore's the head coach of the New Orleans Saints,
and I look at the Lions in Dan Campbell, and
I just look at the Ben Johnson situation, and for
as much as Dan Campbell changed the culture of the Lions,
with the Lions rather have Dan Campbell or Ben Johnson

(50:39):
as their head coach, and it's a really tough decision.
And Dan Campbell is so likable and everything that he
stands for, But realistically, when you see now what the
Bears were able to do this year, and maybe it's
maybe it's you know, their personnel and what he's done
with with Caleb Williams, but I think I think that
ultimately Ben Johnson and probably would be wanted more than

(51:01):
Dan Campbell in Detroit. And I think if the Bills
would have stuck on with Sean McDermott even longer, you
were likely gonna lose Joe Brady at.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Some point, maybe even this offseason.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
And now you're kind of stuck in a spot where
the Lions were stuck in not making the playoffs. And
so that's why I liked the move. They were proactive
with it. They needed to change. You can't waste Josh
Allen's years. That's what people in Buffalo are thinking. And
they were able to keep the guy that they wanted
to move up. And I think other NFL teams maybe
you wish that they would have done the same.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Dan, think about this. You just said something so beautiful there,
But think about Baltimore. Do you think they would have
rather kept Mike McDonald in house and promoted him over
Harball with that?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Absolutely? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Right, Like that's the other thing, like you have to
you hold on to this thing for so long and
you squeeze all the juice out of it. But you
had that air apparent in the building a lot of times,
and teams don't pull the trigger on it.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
No, they absolutely don't.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
And there's like I feel that the jesse mentor higher
is a is it? Let's get our Mike McDonald right,
Like there's because there's similarities, Like Okay, maybe we missed
out on the first time, but you're exactly right there.
There are other spots in the NFL that you can
point to and you can show and say that, hey,
maybe we should have made this higher, or we should
have ended up keeping this guy around instead of that guy. Ultimately,

(52:19):
somebody and unfortunately somebody ends up losing their job.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
But that's going to happen. It happens in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
It's part of the job description, and it's I think
the Buffalo Bills were right in being proactive about it
instead of maybe falling victim like the Detroit Lions ended
up doing.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
And it's difficult to talk about Dan Campbell like that.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Yeah, that one called me Dan, But you're right, but
that one called me about surprise when you brought that one.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Up, because he is. There is no doubt he changed
the culture. He changed everything about that team and that organization.
And you don't want to dismiss that. But now you
have a Lions team that you know, everybody has injuries
in the NFL. I get it, But now you're still
trying to find your identity on defense. You had a
changeover at offensive coordinator after you lost the Ben Johnson

(53:07):
last year, and things in Detroit are a bit in
flux right now. So I think they maybe would have
loved to have had that consistency of Ben.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Johnson, but now you don't have them. Unfortunately for them.
He's in the division.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah, that's gonna be a hard That's gonna be a
hard peep to swallow, exactly, especially in division as well. Dan,
that one hurts you got to see him twice a year.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah, got a good thing.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
No doubt about it. He is carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
It is end Zone Radio on Fox Sports Radio, hanging
out on this week between the Championship games and Super
Bowl sixty. Fine Carrie on AX at Carrie twenty five Roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Brendan
tweets him regarding Clint Kubiak, I believe he's taking the
Raiders job. Don't get me wrong. He's good at his job.

(53:49):
And maybe this Raiders fan is completely paranoid. But something
seems a bit off here. I don't know what seems
a bit off.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Clifton Kubiak has showed what he could do with someone
like Sam Darnold in their relationship, even in his time
in the previous stop in New Orleans, and Tom Brady
seems to love them. He sure loved them during the
broadcasts of the previous two playoff games that the Seahawks had,
and people were wondering, maybe is Brady gushing over Clint
Kubiak a little bit too much?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
And now we know why. Is he's likely going to
be the next Raiders head coach.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Y he already knew that was happening Dan, so of
course he was giving him a little praise.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
On their Absolutely, he is carry Roads.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
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Speaker 1 (54:27):
Next, how did the Raiders settle on?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
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(55:12):
Find them on x at Kaplin NFL. Inside the Birds
podcast is where you can hear them. Sports Grid as well.
Happy Super Bowl Week Off, Adam Kaplan, Senior Bowl and
so much more.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (55:25):
I'm good and actually the Senior Bowl for the first
time of twenty four years. I got to note doubt.
We couldn't get out of a town last Monday, unfortunately
for my trip.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah, it's uh.

Speaker 10 (55:34):
Tough, my first Senior Ball. By the way, she tells
you how long I've been going. It was a year
for Josh mccow in two thousand and three.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Oh wow, yeah I was. I was still going to
calculus class at that point's.

Speaker 10 (55:46):
See, yeah, and Bridal was in don't don't, don't believe
me on to class here.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Wait a minute, how old is curry down like they
went to class at Louisville.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Come on, no way, no stop telling my secrets.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Come on, there you go. I'm not saying Gary isn't smart.
He's very smart. I'm just saying, anyway, moving on, no
head coaching hires.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
That's what Karry and I have been talked about a bunch,
you know, over the first hour and fifteen minutes that
we've been together. Let's start from the end. How did
the Cardinals end up settling on Micha Lafleur, the Rams
offensive coordinator, So he.

Speaker 10 (56:24):
Was the favorite really from the beginning. I'm gonna I
mean not just gonna be straight here, guys. The feeling
this is not going to come out affair. It's just
some opinion, some opinions from personnel people that I respect.
Around the NFL. The feeling was they're going to go cheap.
The Cardinals, again, I'm not saying it's fair, but they
were not going to go with like an established like

(56:48):
hot coordinator. Michael Floor was Michael Floor was kind of
the thing for a little bit for the Jets and
he it didn't work out from the Jets, we went
back to the Rams, but.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
There was always a feeling it was going to be him.

Speaker 10 (57:00):
It wasn't a lot you know, the Ray, Yes, the
Raiders talked to him, but it was just they were
gonna go cheap.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
They won an offensive mine.

Speaker 10 (57:06):
It was Van Chosepho was one of the finalists who
certainly deserves another shot. He got a really raw deal
in Denver, but that that one was not a surprise
to me, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
With you, Adam. We talked about the Bills promoting Joe
Brady as the head coach and for me and yeah,
and for me, what it told me was obviously when
you promote in house, A lot of times that means
there's a disconnect with the head coach and ownership or GM,
there's some kind of something there that's that's a little
bit as it would be considered a rift. And then

(57:34):
you promote in house, you want to have some continuity
with Obviously the offensive coordinator, Brady and Josh Allen have
a great relationship. But the important thing I heard from
the introductory press conference was you're going to see who
Keon Coleman is moving from here, Like do you see
that being a part of the a part of the hire,
the reason he was hired as well.

Speaker 10 (57:54):
Not really, I mean it helps player development and jo
James Cook has developed big time. Josh Allen was really,
to be honest with you, developed better as a quarterback
on a Brian day Ball. That's why Dave Ball got
a look, and he would have loved to have that job,
being that he's from Western New York. But the thing
that's troubling though, is Okay, you first time in ten

(58:15):
years you're in you know, you're you're you're going through
a head coaching search. They interviewed a lot of interesting candidates.
I'm not saying Joe Brady won't be really good.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
We'll see.

Speaker 10 (58:22):
He's never been a head coach before. But I just
I don't know. I don't I don't see it being
outside the box at all. It's kind of we'll see.
I'm hoping for the Bills. I just know enough about
Joe Brady. I'm not convinced he's going to be a
great head coach. I'm just going to be you know,
my job is to help you guys learn and the
folks learn. I know why he got fired in Carolina.

(58:44):
He had trouble getting the ball to their playmakers. And
you just mentioned let's go to what you said about
Keon Coleman. Yeah, it's they'd like this to happen, but
Keon Coleman has really significant maturity issues.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
And I give Brandon being credit.

Speaker 10 (58:58):
He did say it about the maturity part, but I
know it's a little bit worse than he would lead
on though.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
He felt that he started to get it a.

Speaker 10 (59:04):
Little bit, and he had a minor injury too in
the first two years, but they wanted him to be
their starting X receiver one.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (59:12):
Well, someone in personnel who I greatly respect told me
when he graded because it was his job to watch
the Bills tape during the season. He said, all their
receivers are number three. They don't have a number one,
number two. The Clill Shakier is really good. But if
you're if you had your brothers, he'd be your three,
not your one.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
That's the problem with it. Adam kaviln Junning is here
on Fox Sports Radio. I was higher on the Brady
higher then you. I just will see. He's got great
energy and passion.

Speaker 10 (59:37):
I love that about him, but I don't know how
he presents and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Here's Kerry knows this as a former player.

Speaker 10 (59:45):
You never know dan about a head coach until you
have adversity, and we're not going to know about Brady
until if they have any I'm well, they're not going
to go seventeen to oh, but if they have a
losing streak, if they start off one and six, one
and five, does he panic?

Speaker 1 (59:58):
We're not going to know that until happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Andam Kaplin joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. How
long had the Raiders had their site? Sent on Clint Kubiak,
This one was interesting.

Speaker 10 (01:00:09):
He I think what happened was because it's highly probable
not a lot, but it's highly probable they're going to
go with the quarterback number one. With Mendoza. It's just
hard to get it's hard to buy in with the
defensive minded guy. As someone kind of involved in one

(01:00:30):
of these searchers told me, if you're if you are
a defensive guy and you want to be our head coach,
you better have this incredible plan develop our quarterback or
you're not getting the job.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
In fact, you won't get a second interview.

Speaker 10 (01:00:42):
So with Clint Kobyak, the feeling was that they were
always going to go offense. Now, Dan, on your point
about Kubiak, Now this is interesting. Here's one coach explained
to me. It's very easy to say you shouldn't take
the job. Gets a bad job.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
But if you're going to put.

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
Ten million a year of or if you get a
fifty million dollars, yeah you will. Because you don't look
next year something could happen where let's say Sam Donal
could play terribly, they could lose a lot of players
and they don't make the playoffs. Then he it's no chance. Yep,
you know, so you take the money. I've changed my
mind on this, guys. I've changed my mind on this stuff.
You take it while you have a chance, because you

(01:01:16):
never know what happened next year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, no, Adam. We obviously it's been a lot of
noise about the minority. Uh it's a big deal. Yeah,
the minority thing and no hires. And it's like, with
so many jobs being out there, of all the minority
candidates that had a chance to you know, interview and
possibly land a job, were there any real viable options
of those guys being head coaches this year?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:01:38):
Van Joseph was the one where although everything I'd heard
from the beginning was going to be Michael floor unless
someone blew someone else blew them away. But Van Joseph
was right up there. Let's call it like it is, guys.
I've covered this business now for twenty seven years. I've
I'm just amazed that these owners go to these the
owner's meetings, and three or four times a year, particularly

(01:02:00):
one in March. Who are they talking to? Where are
they getting their information? And by the way, team presidents too,
who have to go. In fact, sometimes they take the
place for the spring meeting, which is after the draft
in May. But where are they getting their information? I
could talk to any veteran NFL reporter. We could sit
down for fifteen minutes, I could come up with twenty

(01:02:22):
very good minority candidates. It's just embarrassing. How does Clinn
Hurt not get a look? Who has been it won
a great defensive coordinator, but he may be the NFL's
best D line coaches.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
He why is he not getting a look?

Speaker 9 (01:02:34):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
This is bad?

Speaker 10 (01:02:35):
And you know what, I'll give you a little nugget
for you. Someone pointed out to me today we were
actually talking about this friend of mine is a minority
assistant coach. I had not even thought of this, but
he goes, look at how many teams only brought into
minority candidates to satify the Rooney rule. They didn't bring three,
four or five. They only brought into because they were
just checking off boxes. I was like, wow, I had
not even thought of that. So of course I started

(01:02:56):
looking and go, wow, this guy was right. A lot
of them did carry. They don't do their homework and
it's just checking off boxes. I don't care what the
league says.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, I'm Kaplin turning us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Hit him up by Kaplin NFL. He's Carrie Rhodes I'm
Dan Byer carry is the all pro on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I just want to make that clear.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Okay, Quiziadolfo Mensa out in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
We could talk about all the Viking stuff. I want
a timing is terrible? Good? Well, this is what I
find interesting because this is insider insider stuff what we
saw from a variety of reporters as this news broke
was been hearing this for a while, Then why did
nobody report it? Like? That's my I would agree with you.

(01:03:40):
I would agree with you, Dan. I would say that.

Speaker 10 (01:03:45):
If I had to go on television on ESPN, because
I just know the way it is, I have to
go on Sports Center with I.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Would say, this is the way we going now.

Speaker 10 (01:03:54):
Now, I we'll tell you get stuff off the record
that you're kind of locked into what you can say.
But you could say there's a there's a phrase, and
I'm just going to go inside inside. Get ready for
this one, Dan, when I know something I'm not allowed
to report, I'll go. You know, it wouldn't surprise me, Okay,
it wouldn't surprise me if there's some changes coming that
that I'm not saying and I was, and I'll try

(01:04:16):
to say, hey, I'm not saying it's going to happen
because I can't get screamed at. But it wouldn't surprise
me with something changed and that because then why you
could sort of hint I agree with you. I agree
in the fact, Mike Florio had to took a shot
at from Pro Football Talk. He's gonna say, you're going
to see a bunch of reporters say, oh, I knew
this the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
I find that interesting. I thought it was great that
Mike said that I know what he's talking about. By
the way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
And the funny thing was was if anybody said that,
it wouldn't have been People wouldn't have been appalled. They
would have said, like, oh yeah, let gos let Sam
Darnold leave for JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 10 (01:04:46):
And you know they drafted JJ McCarthy. You could like
more than that, though, guys, it's more than that. It's
way more than that. It's I I'm raising my hand.
You're not watching me on video. I did not know
this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Now.

Speaker 10 (01:04:58):
I had to after the fact because I wasn't working
on the story. If I was working the story, I
would have given you everything. In fact, This is how
long I've been covering the Wil's ownership. I had intimate
knowledge of the trying over thirty back in with Brad Childrens,
fran Fully. It might have been Roberzinski, who, by the way,
is the interim general manager. He is the interim person
whatever you want to call him. Razinski does contracts, but

(01:05:21):
he's going to oversee the decision making.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Now until after the draft. Rob has been there. Rick S.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Bielman brought him in. I could tell you I gave
play by play reporting for however I worked. It might
have been scout dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I hadn't.

Speaker 10 (01:05:33):
I had better insight than anyone did. So I basically
said that Childress wanted Fully out after two months, and
he wrestled personnel control for fran Fully, who was the
charges personnel director.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
That was an ugly one.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
Now what's interesting here is again quasi a daffo menso
Mensa was fired.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Okay, he wasn't fired three to.

Speaker 10 (01:05:56):
Five days after the season ending, which is almost certain
what happens when Jim gets fired. They didn't make the playoffs. Guys,
they're doing this how many weeks after? This is just
and I know they say organizational meetings and this took
us BSh. I don't believe that, guys. You know, Dan,
I know we were going to go here. I wish
we had a little bit more time, But I don't

(01:06:16):
believe that. I strongly suspect that they heard things within
their building and they didn't like what they were hearing.
I don't believe this is just over one personal decision.
There's something going on in that building. You saw some
of the reporters kind of hint at dissension, but they
never said what it was. That's typically, by the way,
coaches not agree with the personnel office number one. Now,

(01:06:39):
does it happen when people who work for the general
manager have a disagreement, Sure, but it's more often than not, guys,
the coaching staff doesn't agree with the front office.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
That's more often than not.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
I mean obviously, Yeah, you saw it, like the leaks
a couple of weeks talking about him taking a two
week maternity leave, which you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Know that's a little crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Yeah, but stuff like that come out after the fact.

Speaker 10 (01:07:00):
Oh, there's going to be stuff, guys, I believe me,
and I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
I I would I probably would.

Speaker 10 (01:07:05):
Have had some of this in the Senior Bowl. That's
where you get a lot of good stuff. But he's
a guy, by the way, had no football background. He's
analytics guy. I talked to someone who worked with him
with the Niners who kind of was shocked that he
got the Vikings GM job. I know he was, you know,
high up with the Browns. But it's hard when you
don't know football. It's just really you only know numbers. Yeah, guys,

(01:07:28):
it's you know, Kerry from playing and Dan you know
this from covering the league when you don't have a
football background.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And a lot of these, by the way, if you just.

Speaker 10 (01:07:34):
Look at the guys who gotten fired or least, uh,
just look at Paul Deepodesta, total failure from a football standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Never what did he what did he really do? Yeah,
he's not backward the Rockies now, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
It just didn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
No, No, that was before the Condoleeza Rice report from
Adam Schefter though, that was prior.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
That was the prior era, right from Adam Schefter.

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
Well, well no, but what happened was the yes. But yes,
but Paul D. Boudesta was an overseer of personnel. He
was pulling the strings. You remember he got the job.
This is like twenty seventeen, twenty eight. Actually met him
at one of the Owners of Being super nice guy.
He's from the Moneyball from the movie Moneyball, and he

(01:08:25):
now left because whether he was feeling the heat, whether
he was going to return. But the bottom line is
he wanted to bring in data and I actually talked
him about this at that Owners of Being to When
I met him, he was trying to figure out how
to interweave tape all twenty two of the coaching tape
with with analytics and it just never worked out. So
the data guys as general managers, not a lot of

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them are having success. I mean, it's just Howie Roseman's
really both he does tape and data and cap but
it's it's very interesting to see what's happened, although we
didn't really have a lot of change over in the
general manager space.

Speaker 3 (01:08:56):
Yeah, Dan and Adam mean, analytics will get you in
the building and be fun for a while, but if
you don't know people and don't know relationships and don't
know the sport, you won't last.

Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
It's very simple. You got to convert. It's hard, man Kurry,
It's really hard. You know, a guy that had to
watch tape. Yes, it's And I've talked to guys who
were didn't play in college or high school who learned
the game, and you know, they may not be a jam,
but they had to learn the other There are a
lot of people in scott who didn't play, by the way,
not a ton, but there are.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
But they had to learn tape.

Speaker 10 (01:09:27):
And it's it's hard, man, It's not baseball. It's it's
it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
My opporternity to leave was a month. I took a month.

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
But you're in the media, so yeah, you're not running
a football team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
They told me I should take four months. No, I'm kidding, no,
but you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
Yeah, think, Hey, take as much time as you want. Dad,
go ahead, staye God take Adam. Are you going to
be in San Francisco. I'll be there.

Speaker 10 (01:09:58):
I get there Tuesday, and you all right, you hoys
some shows there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
I will be there. Yes, I'm actually driving up after
this show, so I'm gonna make really.

Speaker 10 (01:10:07):
Oh yeah, that's right, because I've never gotten their Sunday.
I used to get there on Monday. But I will
be there. I get there Tuesday and I will be at.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
The Moscone Center on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
You guys have fun, all right, I'll be watching.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yes, hey, hey, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Carrie carry monte Blos is going to be there as well,
so let's bring her in for the latest.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
You could say hi and by to Adam.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I'm sure you guys will catch you up in San Francisco, right, Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
Definitely, finally meet Adam.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I mean it will just be a fun time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
We'll just be missing Carrie roads.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Adam.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
Yes, we'll FaceTime Carrie.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
I can't believe you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
By the way, let me let me sign Let me
sign out Adam. Uh hit him on x at Caplin NFL. Here'
on Sports Grid and Inside the Birds podcast our Fox
Sports Radio NFL in all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Take it away, Manci.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
All right, guys, we're gonna start in the NBA, and
I am not a happy camper.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
I am not happy with what I'm about to tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
The All Star reserves have been announced out of the East,
Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Johnson, Carl Anthony Towns, Pascal Siakam, Norman Powell,
Scottie Barnes, and Jalen Duran.

Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
Now when it comes to the West, where is the
All Star Game?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Carry.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
I don't know into it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Don't is that into it?

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
Don't into it? Don't. Okay, so let me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
List off the West Reserves that into it? Don't who
plays there?

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
The Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:11:33):
Okay, let's list off the the West here, Anthony Edwards,
Jamal Murray, Chet Holmgren, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Denny of Dia.

Speaker 6 (01:11:42):
I think it's how he says it, Avi da Avida,
Thank you. Avid. I was like, I know, it's not
the way it looks. I was like, it's not the
way it looks.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
And Lebron, James Lebron, who exactly Let me tell you
who's not playing better? Uh than Kawhi Leonard Lebron, James
Kawhy didn't make it?

Speaker 6 (01:11:58):
Ka, why did not make it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
And I'm very upset about it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:03):
Don't tell me that it's because the Clippers don't have
a great schedule, because neither do the Portland Trailblazers.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
And Denny is right there, who's having a great season. Yes,
So it's just like when the event is at into it, don't.
I am not a happy camper.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Clippers will be playing the Suns later today in Phoenix,
and they're gonna be doing it without James Harden because
of personal reasons. When it comes to the Lakers, Austin
Reeves has officially been ruled out.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
He was questionable.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
He's missed last eighteen games with a calf injury has
been ruled out. Lakers will be taking on the Knicks
at Madison Square Garden in about twenty minutes or so.
Right now, in the NBA, the Pistons lead the Nets
twenty nine to twenty three late in the first quarter,
just like the Bulls in the Heat, where Miami is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Up thirty four to thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
Early in the second quarter, the Raptors lead the Jazz
thirty one to twenty five, and the Wizards are up
on the Kings.

Speaker 6 (01:12:52):
Twenty five to seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
When it comes to base bull well, Alhannio Suadez and
the Reds are in agreement on a one year, fifteen
million dollar deal.

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
Also, Juan Soto is going to play for.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
The Dominican Republic in the twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic.
And as we thought, Justin Rose did win the Farmers
Insurance Open, ending twenty three under par overall. In Casey Misstic,
Carlos Autcraz has completed the career the career Grand Slam
at just twenty two years old, after defeating Novak Djokovic
at the Australian Open in four sets. And in the NFL,

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the Raiders are expected to hire Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak.
This would be after the Super Bowl. They would expect
to hire him as their next head coach. Cardinals are
planning to hire a Rams offensive defensive coordinator, Mike Lafleur,
and the forty nine ers are going to hire Raheem
Morris to be their new defensive coordinator. In the NHL,
the Hurricanes did beat the Kings in overtime three to two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Back to you guys, Van Manti, who's your biggest snow
about West? I know yours, Kawhi.

Speaker 6 (01:13:51):
Why my second one is James Harden.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Okay, what about you?

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
You got one flag? Cooper flag per.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Flag which is one that also, yes, should should be there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I'm going to say Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
And yes, Dylan Brooks is another one. You know, there's
always snubs, but Dylan Brooks. I'm really happy, you know,
for Norman Powell on the East because he should have
probably gotten it last year as a Clipper.

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
So I'm happy for a Norman Powell.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
But Chat Holmgren, Yeah, he hasn't played that.

Speaker 6 (01:14:20):
Really, Chet Holmgren, where did you come from?

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Realize there's this different format this year, so it's not
versus West one here, I'm not talking to you to
the listeners, I don't care, Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:14:37):
Also, congratulations Jamal Murray. Right, it's his first one, like
the first official one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
At the World versus the it's the World versus the US.
But there are they're they are breaking down the teams.
They need eight international players and sixteen players from the
US and if there's and I'm not sure what the
totals end up being, but if they are short by
any they will add.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Those players to the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
So I don't know if it's right, if it's perfectly
set out that way. If it is, I think something
fishy is up that you had. Oh my goodness, like,
look at how this ended up working out. But that's
how they're going to play it. And then they'll have
the you know, the kind of the round robin sort
of matchup, and then the fourth quarter will be the
championship game.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
But that's what they're giving us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Yeah, Dan, I'm gonna have to investigate that. That's a
good point because but the thing about Dylan Brooks, he
could also play for the World.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
He's Canada, right, Well, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
I don't know if they have enough.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
I mean, if they have da being there, and you've
obviously uh Jokic, you know, as a starter. I don't
know if he'll play in the game, but there's like
there could be more players being added, so we'll just
have to wait for a couple more weeks till because
of the way this funky format is, even if fanci
doesn't care about I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Trying to figure out if I'm looking into it, I'm
looking I'm trying to figure out. But you're right, Dan,
there's going to be they have to even it out
or whatever you just said. Yeah, the only one right
now that has to be replaced is Giannis Onto toogoomball
Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
They named it. They named the starters, and it's like, well,
I'm gonna they're not all going to be on the
East or West team, so it doesn't necessarily matter.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
That's what's kind of that kind of funky about it. Anyway,
all right, thanks Manzi Hitter up at Monty Belanos. You
can find Carrie at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can
find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Carrie gets put
to the test. Another great edition of carry On next
year on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 9 (01:16:29):

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Hey carry out, Hey carry twenty five roads. You can
find me at Dan Byer on Fox says it's end
Zone Radio. On Fox Sports Radio, Monty Belanos is here.
Lead to lap Art Executive producer Mary Mack or technical producer.
We waste no time in carrying on with an edition
of carry On on this first day of February five
topics of the world of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I give the carry Roads. He tells us if he's
on board with it or not? All right, Carrie, Yes,
carry on or off?

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
That Steve Tiss should be out as Giants Corner for
his connections to Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Oh, I'm on that one one percent. They didn't even
have to ask me that one. They Steve Tiss should
be out for a lot of reasons. When you add
that layer and the sick os behind that stuff. Get
him out of there really quickly, Dan, get him out
of there. So I'm on board.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Ride are you on or off this that Clint Kubiak
is the guy to turn around the Las Vegas Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Man, I turn that thing upside down in year one.
So I'm gonna say no, I'm off that one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
It's gonna take a couple of years. Uh, It's gonna
take a little while to get the Raiders back on
track there. They don't They don't have enough young players
to develop to get to that point. Free agent is
not a hot bed to go in there. Their top
defensive player seems to want out to be to go
play with the contender. So it's gonna take a while
for Clint or anybody that takes that job to turn

(01:17:57):
the turn the ship around in.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Such a tough, tough division. Yes, as well, something the
Cardinals also.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Dealing with on the other side, as they are hiring
Mike Lafleur today. All right, carry are you on or
off this? That there will be five or more coaching
vacancies next year in the NFL If we had ten
this offseason, Uh huh, more than five would be half
maybe half the league depending.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Somebody may only get one year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
But I'm gonna have her more. I'm gonna I mean
it's always turned around. I'm gonna have to say I'm
on board. I'm on board. I don't know what those
specific jobs are at the moment, but I'm sure if
I deep dive on it, I'm sure some teams are
gonna have to answer that really quickly. So I'm on
board with that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
I agree wholeheartedly. Let's say, what have you done for
me lately?

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Are you on or off Paul George's excuse for being
pop twenty five games.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
For I'm positive I'm off that Dan. I'm off that Dan,
that that was a cop out. He came out too
quickly with that response to to have a flufford to
take care of him and corrects him in that moment,
he did something. You know, he's been injured, you know
he's doing something to get back, and also he's been
on a streak of playing games and being healthy all
out of the blue, all of a sudden, And so

(01:19:12):
I'm gonna say, there's definitely more to that story, that
story and what he used in this situation. So I'm off.
I'm off that one for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Finally, are you honor off that former NBA player Omari
Bailey who has appeared in ten NBA games.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Should be able to go back to college.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
I'm off that one in as well. Dan, Hey, you
got we gotta teach these young kids. You make decisions,
you have to live with those decisions. And life isn't
always about you know. You know, we want second chances,
and I think we want to give people grace. But
when you make a decision to turn pro, you're a pro.
You cannot go back and play with kids.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
It's right, love it, I love it. And that's carry
on for another week. Hit him up at Carry twenty
five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Now that you can go back and make money playing,
people are like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Nobody was going back to finish their degree. That wasn't
happening at all.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
No, not to be in class, Dan, It's Carry Rhoads.
I'm Dan Beyer. Will Yatis be out of Milwaukee. That's next.

Speaker 9 (01:20:15):

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Welcome in a game of easy as one, two, three,
four is about twenty five minutes away. Welcome in, as
we are a week away from Super Bowl sixty and
we are just the minutes removed from the All Star
reserves being announced for the NBA All Star Game.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
You heard Manzy have those.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
We were discussing it earlier, and it's the new format
with the All Star Game, wouldn't you know Kerrie Rhoades
the number of All Stars that needed to be break
broken down into this new World versus USA format, he
needed sixteen players from the United States, eight from the World.
In the math that I'm seeing on X and I

(01:20:56):
think Mancy was trying to track this down as well.
It's exactly that sixteen and eight sixteen representatives from the US,
eight from the I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
What would be the World team? What do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
What are the odds something like this would happen? Jeez,
what are the odds? Nothing is rigged at all in
the NBA, Like, there's nothing that was manufactured to make
this random, weird format somehow fit exactly like they need to.
Now there will likely be injury replacements, but Karl Anthony

(01:21:31):
Towns's representation of what team is maybe the thing that's
up in the air, because he could be Dominican Republic,
which would be World Team, could be USA in play
for the United States. But if he does play in
for the United States, it would be sixteen and eight.
What do you know the NBA is for some reason

(01:21:54):
out of thin air. They're good fortune. It just falls
into place for this new all star game format.

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Yeh, that's so crazy, Dan. Like even Jamal Murray, right,
he can be kind ofa uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
He is part of the World All Stars. Yep, there
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
It's yeah, it's insane, man, I don't even that's yeah,
you could.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Just say it's fixed. It is completely it's completely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Doctor. We're looking at it. We're like him, he's an
All Star. That guy is an All Star. But as
I said, I wanted Cooper Flag in this game. I
felt that Cooper Flag should be in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
It's why.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Actually I have zero problem with should Or Sanders being
in the Pro Bowl. If you care about the Pro Bowl, now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
You've got a problem exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
You never cared about it, you hated it for the
last years, and then should or Sanders make some people
I want a travesty.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
What a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, that's what made the Pro Bowl a joke. They're
playing it on a Tuesday in a convention center this week. Okay,
and football, Dan, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
And it's flag football.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
We we've ripped apart to shreds this Pro Bowl year
after year after year, and now everybody's talking about the
sanctity of it by having should or Sanders a member
of it. It's just absurd. It's ridiculous. And I feel
the same thing about the NBA All Star Game. We
don't really care about it until we want to care
about it, and I just would rather make fun of

(01:23:09):
it and be like, oh my goodness, this new idea
for the NBA ends up just miraculously coming to the
fruition that they have the number breakdown that they need
for this new format that's going to be USA against
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Yeah, all the All Star Games are pretty flawed. It's
up for the MLB, I think. I mean, I don't
the hockey one. I never really watched to pay attend to,
so I don't know it well. But Baseball usually gets
it right though.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yes, and Baseball is the last one standing, even when
they tried to do the home field advantage, which I
was never a fan of after they had the tie
in Milwaukee two thousand and two. But the All Star
reserves are out and there's probably going to be some
replacements for players Giannis and Tetakunpo.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
As a starter for the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Will he be in the Eastern Conference by week's And
that is the question as Giannish is on the trading block.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
And this is my issue with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
What has gone on, and Carrie, I think I told
you maybe a day or so ago, that I just
think that that Giannis needs to go, needs to go now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
And I look at where the Bucks are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
If the Bucks don't want to play Giannis the rest
of the year and they want this calf injury to
linger on and they continue to lose, then that's fine
if they think that they can get the best offer
for him in the off season, and in the off
season maybe there are other teams in play that wouldn't
be in play at this point leading up to the

(01:24:36):
trade deadline. But it is an absolute dark cloud over
a Milwaukee Bucks team that just needs to start over.
And that's why I just get to the point of
I think he has to go now because it would
be the best thing in the world for the Bucks
to continue to lose, and otherwise this thing just keeps
on going and going. I feel like we are going
in circles every time we have a new Yannis story

(01:24:59):
now coming out of Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Yeah, I yes, you did say that, Dan, but I
blame Doc Rivers. I think what wherever he goes?

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Okay, all right, there's a literal a sarcasm.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah, it's a little sarcasm. But no, No, this Johnness
thing needs needs to get done. He's obviously not happy there,
and he's tried to play the trooper and be the
last man standing at a place forever and try to
get it done. He's already one. It's time to move on.
This team isn't fresh. It's really become stale. Guys seem
to not even want to play with him at this point,

(01:25:34):
and probably vice versa for him. So like you said,
get get the hall, get what you can for him,
and send him off. He did, he did his job there. Man,
It's time to move on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
Do you want to know what this reminds me of?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
This reminds me of it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
You could have said no, and I would have been,
you know, painted in an awful corner. I would have
told you anyway, this reminds me of when Ricky Williams
entered the NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
And Ricky Williams was in the enter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
NFL Draft, the record setting career at the University of Texas,
gets drafted by the Saints after the Saints trade all
of their draft picks to bring him in, and then
he signs a contract that is so full of incentives
that he was never going to be able to get

(01:26:21):
the full value.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
Of it, just with all of the incentives.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
And so here we have a guy who has a
magnificent college career, goes to the NFL where a team
ends up trading all of their picks for him, and
Ricky Williams says, you know what, my contract is going
to be based on merit and what I do on
the field, and that's all people wanted. That's all fans wanted.

(01:26:47):
They wondered why rookies were getting paid so much. And
then Ricky Williams ends up signing that deal and people
are like, oh man, that was an awful deal. Why
in the world would you sign that deal? That was ridiculous.
And I feel it's the same with you, Honess. In
this point is we always wanted our stars to stay,
and we wanted our stars to stay with their teams

(01:27:07):
and be members of their teams for so long, and
so Yannis was doing that. He was always going to
fight for the Bucks be a member of the Milwaukee Bucks.
They were going to continue to try to build around him,
and now it's gotten to the point of at some
point somebody has to be the bad.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Guy because it's gotten so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
And I feel that Yannis in the Bucks, they all
did this right thing in trying to continue this window
and trying to keep Yanis as a Buck for his
entire career. And now Jannis's future is it's not in question,
but the injury bug is something that's there. Milwaukee's not
necessarily getting the value from it. And now Milwaukee's sitting

(01:27:49):
there hanging on to an injured star that they don't
know how and where they can get rid of, and
he's for as great as Yannis is, they're probably not
going to be able to get the maximum return that
they could have gotten if they would have ended up.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Dealing him earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
And so it just reminds me of the Ricky Williams thing,
because we look back at it and say, oh, man,
you should have you should have signed deal that everybody
signed in front of you, where we say, with the
Bucks are Giannis you should have asked out earlier. The
Bucks should have traded him earlier, because now you're in
a spot that isn't good for anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:28:17):
Yeah, Dan, what would what would you have done if
you were management in Milwaukee? Obviously, this guy, you know,
fought through it, won a championship for you. You're gonna
offer him, offer him the contract, right, You're not gonna
trade him after that? So then like do you offer
him something short term and he goes out and says, no,

(01:28:38):
I don't want that, and then he goes out where
it's almost like it on equal footing. You guys can
go out. Somebody's still going to feel bad about the situation,
but you're still getting the return and he's going to
go and make money regardless. So like, how would you
have handled that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
You have a window after their championship, right right, you know,
so they so they have their their window after they
win in twenty twenty one. You try to run it
back in twenty twenty two. I don't even mind a
couple of years after that. It's what's transpired really over
the last I don't know, the last twelve months, the

(01:29:16):
Damian Lillard experience. It's maybe up maybe up to that
point where Lillard is brought in and this is the
last opportunity and then in year one it doesn't work,
and so now you're kind of all right, what do
we do here? What do we got here? Dave Lillard's
the new guy. Giannis has been the mainstay here. You're
not going to build around Damian Lillard, Like, that's not

(01:29:36):
going to happen. But I think at that point you
maybe needed to make a decision. They ultimately made it
a decision with Damian Lillliard after tearing his achilles, to
just let him go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
And eat that money.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
And so at that point, and maybe maybe it should
have been last off season. Maybe that should have been
the point. Maybe it should have been brought up to
as many other team games. But it just feels like
within the last six months to maybe the last twelve
months that maybe we're just hanging on to something, or
Bucks fans were just hanging on to something that wasn't

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there because he just felt like you wanted to try
to make it work.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
And now they're at a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Point where the teams that are interested in him, I
don't know what they could offer to make it an
appealing offer for Milwaukee. And then if you wait any longer,
now you're adding even more miles. That is if he
tries to come back and play this year where he
could get injured again and then his value maybe isn't
as much in the offseason.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
Yeah, the value is not You're not getting the return
right now. Go even if he got healthy, at this point,
the injury bug or the risk for injury is going
to be really high for him moving forward. He's older,
played a lot of minutes, a lot of basketball. So yeah,
it's it's become perilous at this point for Milwaukee, and

(01:30:55):
I guess the dividends that they they're going to try
to achieve with this return. It sucks to Milwaukee because
I mean, yeah, they've had fun, they've had a good
time with jani Is being there, but at this point, yeah,
I think it's I think it's I think it's over.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
There's also Carrie, if you even notice they've they're starting
to fall and they've fallen back and hasn't played that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
They're in the they're in the lottery.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
This is one of the years where they do have
a first round pick, but they lose the priority.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
On it to New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
But that was the New Orleans pick and the Derrek
Queen draft deal that goes to Atlanta. But the point
is this is the Bucks have no chance of landing
the number one overall pick, but if the lottery somehow
falls their way, they could be two, they could be three,
they could be four. And the more that they lose,
the more opportunity that that pick could end up being

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beneficial for them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
And what is thought to be a very strong draft class.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Ye and and not that I don't think that the
Hawks would trade that unprotect pick of New Orleans that
belongs to Milwaukee or the better of the picks. I
don't think they would trade that back to to the Bucks,
you know, Yannis deal. But the Hawks were a team
that was mentioned, and I think that there could be
other teams that are mentioned for Giannis's services that that

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wouldn't be this week if you did it in the offseason.
So that's that's the point where I just wonder, and
I don't know if what's going to line up, but
Milwaukee needs to continue to lose because you now need
to start replenishing that roster and this draft class is
one of the better ones. And it's just a tail
and keeping guys maybe just a little bit too long.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Yep. And if you cut baita year early.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
It's better than doing so a year late, Isn't that
the old Bill Belichick Atagy it is?

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
And Dan, the one thing I would say about that,
it's it does suck as a fan to watch that
watch the product when it's been a championship and they've been,
you know, one of the best teams in the East
for a while now. But it's hard to let go
of those figures. He's going to have a statue in Milwaukee.
I with suppose, And so I went through this with Dallas,
right and Dirk Novitski, like you can't. It seems like

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there's a feel that you can't move on from some
of those guys. There's a Kobe Bryant, right, Dirk Novitzky,
he falls in that same realm, right he Especially with Dallas,
it's very the parallels very similar. A team that you
had success, you know, some thought you wouldn't you wouldn't
be able to win in that market with those teams
and with those two guys Joannis and Dirk being the

(01:33:29):
pillars of your team, but they get it done. They're
beloved so much in that city, and so to be
the GM or the owner that got rid of that
guy early it would I could see why. It's hard though,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Man, Yes, yes, I consider him the greatest buck of
all time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
I know you said, and I've said that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
People come back and said a little about Kareem and
it's like, well, yeah, for what Yiannis did to that
team in that organization, I think is much more of
an impact than what Kareem. No, Kareem may be a
better player all around. More of his career was in
LA than it was Milwaukee, and for what he meant
to the team and that city and the arena and
the downtown.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
And everything that came with it. Because the team could
have been could have been on the move.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
They may not even have been in Milwaukee if certain
things would have happened. So there's there's some of that,
and I think that Giannis is owed that and bringing
bringing an organization to the top. And I think that
the NBA changed over the last ten years to allow
a team like Milwaukee. I mean, we've seen the different
champions that we've had in the NBA, so that's happened.

(01:34:33):
But I think Giannis has meant the most and I
think that's part of the reason and why they ended up,
you know, hanging on to him as long as they did.
You're right, it's difficult to move on. But look at
what happened with your MAVs, right yeh, Dirk moves on,
You get Luca, you go to an NBA finals. Now
unfortunately you trade him, then you get Cooper Flagg. So
there is heck, even the Hornets. You know, it's been
forever for the Hornets, right, yes, but they're playing better

(01:34:56):
basketball and now you look at their team and you're like, you,
you know, after all of these top picks that we have,
maybe things aren't necessarily as bad as we thought. Hornets
are just a game and a half back of the
playing tournament, right, So you need to kind of start
that process. And I think that would be good for Milwaukee.
I think it just it can't go on any further.

(01:35:16):
But they do have to get the best sort of deal.
So I'm even backing off like he needs to be
traded by Thursday, because if there are other teams that
aren't interested in him this week, there may be in
the offseason.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
But they just need to continue to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
That's why they played today against the Celtics, and the
best thing they could do is get blown out, and
that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
Happened aely.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Well if Cary Roads gets blown out and easy as one,
two three four. You had a perfect score last week,
so I had to tighten the screws a little bit.
But I think that you're going to fare pretty well.
Yes over under eight and a half today you'll have
lifelines in Moncie Milanos lead to lap and Mary Mack.
Carrie Rhodes is sports knowledge put to the test. Next

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Speaker 11 (01:36:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
Super Bowl sixty a week away.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
Seahawks and Patriots from Santa Clara, California carry up at
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Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
Last week was an AFC NFC championship game focused easy
as one, two, three four. This Carrie is not all
about Super Bowl sixty.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
There may be some.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Sprinkling, some sprinkling of flavor in it, but it's not
completely dominated.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
This is the.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Game we play every Sunday when there isn't an NFL
regular season game going on. It is easy as one, two, three, four,
Where Carrie Rhodes's goal is to get a score of ten.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I give him four topics.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
He doesn't have to give me all of the right answers,
but just needs to give me some and if he
gets ten, he's a very very happy man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
He has lifelines at his disposal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
I thought you were doing carry on to carry off, though, Dan, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
I like that. Words. Are you ready to play easy
as one, two, three, four? You know it? All right?
Let's go name one of two Carrie.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Remaining unbeaten teams in men's college basketball. There are two remains,
one or two? Okay, just one of the two. Got
I got that one. That's Arizona, Arizona, the Wildcats. Show
me the Arizona Wildcats. There they are twenty two and
oh nine and oh in the Big Twelve. Top to
Arizona State yesterday by thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Do you know the other?

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Why did you do that to me?

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
No? That's okay, that's okay. It's Miami of Ohio. That's
the other one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
The red Hawks sitting there ranked twenty second, got to
run from their for their money earlier this week, and
then routed Northern Illinois yesterday. But Miami of Ohio twenty
two and oh ranked twenty fourth right now in the
Ape Poole and moving up, I would say in tomorrow's rankings.
All right, one point for Kerry Rhodes. Question number two,

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Name two of three all time passing yardage leaders for
the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Two of three all time. I'm gonna say Dave Craig
is up there. I would I maybe I'm just saying
I'm talking it out. Uh, Dave Craig, Lee, what you got?
I know Lee Lee's a football guy. Well, not that
I know.

Speaker 12 (01:39:11):
If Jim Zorn was throwing up a lot of numbers,
but Jim Zorn comes to mind. If the old schools,
then I you know, Russell Russell is probably the first
one that comes to mind.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Though what you got, Manci?

Speaker 6 (01:39:20):
I was gonna say, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
I don't know if I have another one, but I
feel like that's a safe answer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
I know, Wait, Sam Donald probably this year though yard
just yards.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Just this is but this is for a career, oh career.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Gotcha, Then it's got it. I know who you gotta,
So Russell Wilson, and you think is Dave Craig or
you says, oh, hastle back? How many years the house
back play?

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
There?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
You're asking, all right, let's go Russell Wilson and let's
go hastle Back.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Let's go those two.

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
It's just all right, show me Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Yeah, of course, numero.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
You know, thirty seven fifty nine yards, show me Matt
Hasselbeck second twenty nine, four hundred and thirty four yards.
Dave Craig was third. It was the other answer. You know,
I was going to get some Dave Craig in there
exactly twenty six and thirty two and least comment on

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Jim Zorn.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Zorn was fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Wow, he would have been a wrong answer in this scenario.
So so good. Recall all right, that was one that
I thought maybe I could trip you up on. Did
not happen. So three for three. What I want to
know now is name three of the four head coaches
to take the New England Patriots to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Three of the four. I got that. That's bar Sales. Yep,
that's Belichick, and that is now Rabel.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Taking the easy way out. We'll see. Show me Mike
for Abel.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
There, show me Bill Belichick, and show me Bill Parcells.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
All right there, keep it easy here. Do you know
do you know who the other one was?

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Do you have any idea who the Patriots head coach
was in nineteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Five eighty five? I don't dan know who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Raymond Barry? I would to go Barry was the head coach.
I didn't think you would. I didn't think you would.
That's what I was I was actually hoping you'd maybe
forget about Parcels. No, but you remembered Parcels right off
the right off the bat. Yeah, people forget about that
Super Bowl. Lee doesn't because.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
The Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Yeah this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Yes, but uh yeah people sometimes I don't know Parcells Parcells.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
Time in New England.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
I think it's time in the with the Jets on
else takes over for what he did with New England,
even with the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
I think sometimes his Patriots stops forgotten. Yeah, it is.
It could just be me, all right, you associate Bill Parcels.
Are you saying that it's just me or that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
It is no, No, No, I'm saying you're right. I
think a lot of people do kind of dismiss that
time in New England for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah, Drew Bledsoe played started in that Super Bowl. Your
buddy Curtis Martin was a big part of that Super
Bowl as well. Just couldn't get past Reggie White and
the Packers. All right, final one, perfect score right now,
still intact. You've got six points. Need to get four
out of these five name four of five cities or
sites to host the Pro Bowl or Pro Bowl games

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since two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Since two thousands, so there have been five different sites
since two thousand to host the Pro Bowl or Pro
Bowl games since two thousand. So we go four of them.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
We go Honolulu, will go Jacksonville. So we go Honolulu, Florida.
I need two more, guys. What you got months?

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
Does this here count?

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Yeah? So San Francisco, San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:43:14):
It hasn't been played there yet.

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
So oh okay, that's all I was gonna say. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
So we got to we need to more le Monte Mary.

Speaker 12 (01:43:23):
I mean, my guess is that there's probably been one
in either Glendale or in Vegas, but I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
Oh my goodness, what about Atlanta? Vegas is gotta have
had one. I don't know. This is the thing, the
Pro Bowl. I don't even I don't care. I haven't watched.
I don't care about at all. Dan through this one
in there. So I know we're gonna go Hawaii, Honolulu,
We're gonna go Florida. I know that for sure. I
would think that one Arizona would be on there. Oh, Dan,

(01:43:50):
you may get me on this one.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
Oh what about what about Orlando?

Speaker 4 (01:43:55):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Maybe I know, I know Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:43:59):
Well, I'll just say this, Carrie, said Florida. Yeah, we
kind of narrow it Donald Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
Okay, okay, okay, the never mind, don't take that, don't
use then Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (01:44:08):
You want to go with Jacksonville.

Speaker 13 (01:44:10):
Oh do we need to narrow it down? Dwan to
city said cities? Right, well, you can't. Yeah, like like
for ye, for Florida. There are a lot of different options. Yeah,
so I do need you to be more specific.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Okay, So I know Jacksonville. You say Orlando.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
I feel like for some reason, but I don't know
if I'm confusing it with the NBA. Maybe you know
what I'm saying, but I'm like Orlando, I think Vegas
might be a good one.

Speaker 12 (01:44:34):
I think I'm pretty sure there was a Vegas one. Yeah,
and then yeah, I don't know if it was Jacksonville.
I think it was somewhere else. And I would have
said if it's not Jacksonville, I was thinking Orlando first.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
No, I would definitely stake to Jacksonville. I know that one.
So Jacksonville I think, and I'll be wrong here lead
but Jacksonville, Honolulu, And you said Vegas.

Speaker 6 (01:44:52):
I think Vegas. I like that or yeah, maybe you're.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
So we'll go down three and then we need one
more though, so I want to say Arizona Glendale as well,
because I'm not gonna get this one right, guys, unless
you guys, I.

Speaker 12 (01:45:03):
Don't know if there's a stadium well yet. Well of
course it's stated there. But was it in Glendell ar Glendelle.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Would be Phoenix area. If it was in Tucson or
flag Staff would be a different start.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
All right, So let's say Phoenix. So Phoenix, Jacksonville, Honolulu.

Speaker 6 (01:45:16):
And Vegas, and Vegas and Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Let's do that one, Dan, all right, Show me Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Yes, yes, it was there for you know, for so.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Long, hasn't been as of late, tore down the Loha
Stadium building a new facility again.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
We hope someday it does return. Show me Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Yeah, yes, it was there in January of twenty fifteen
in advance of the Super Bowl between the Seahawks and Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Show me Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
There we go there twice, twenty twenty two and twenty
twenty three. You have hit the over now for the
perfect game. It all rides this my.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
Answer to Garry Road said Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
For a perfect game and a score of ten for
the second week in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Is it Jacksonville?

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
It was?

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
It was Orlando and and Miami. Oh my, Miami had
it one year. I attended that game in Miami that
was That was in advance of the Saints Colts Super
Bowl that year.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Why am I said that they had in was the
super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
I don't know why you thought Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
They I mean, they had a super Bowl there that
was Ego's Patriots super Bowl thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
But oh man, I was adamant too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
You were you were when Monty was talking about Orlando.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
I'm like, and I wasn't confident because I was like,
am I thinking NBA? Like is that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:46:59):
So like, I wasn't confident, but we did. We did
a good team.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Good stuff guy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
It's also why I needed more specific Florida two separate ones.

Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
Yes, and I should have.

Speaker 4 (01:47:11):
That should have been the clue when he was like
trying to get us to like be more specific, that
maybe there was more than one Florida. I know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
I guess that's the only place.

Speaker 4 (01:47:22):
In my mind.

Speaker 6 (01:47:22):
Yes, he was like anywhere, but exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
Hey, score of nine.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Yeah, strong, strong efforts, Ago, absolutely good job team, all right,
let's go over to Monty Bellonios at the news desk
giving us all the info from today's actual what's going on, Monty?

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
All right, we'll start with the All Star teams. The
reserves have been announced in the NBA. Out of the East,
you've got Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Johnson, Carl Anthony Towns, Pascal Siakam,
Norman Powell, Scottie Barnes, and Jaylen Duran. When it comes
to the West, it's Anthony Edwards, Jamal Murry with his

(01:48:00):
first one, Chet Holmgren, Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Denny Avdia,
and Lebron James, which will be his twenty second All
Star game.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
Yeah no, Kawhi Leonard, I'm not a happy camper. NBA
going on right now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:18):
The Pistons are leading the Nets at home, seventy seven
to forty four. It's early in the third quarter, just
like the heat in the Bulls, and Miami is pulling away.
They're up seventy seven to forty seven. It's a close
one between the Jazz and the Raptors. Utah is up
sixty nine to sixty five halfway through the third quarter,
just like the Kings and the Wizards. Washington is up
here seventy six to sixty five. And late in the

(01:48:39):
first quarter at Madison Square Garden, where the Lakers are
up on the Knicks twenty six to twenty one. Luka
tancis the leading scorer of the game so far, He's
got ten points. Earlier today, the Celtics crews passed the
Bucks no problem, one oh seven to seventy nine. Other
NBA news like the Lakers playing or excuse me, the Lakers,
the Clippers playing the Suns in a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:48:59):
No James hard In for the Clippers.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Tonight, And there was a trade earlier today because the
trade deadline is February fifth. There was one last night,
but this morning the Hawks did trade vit Krachie to
the Portland Trailblazers for dua brief and two future second
round picks.

Speaker 6 (01:49:13):
But no Yannis yet.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
When it comes to baseball, the Reds are signing Alhaniel
Swatz to a one year, fifteen million dollar deal. Also,
Juan Soto is going to play for the Dominican Republic
in the twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic. In golf,
as expected, Justin Rose won the Farmers Insurance Open, ending
twenty three under par overall. Overnight, Carlos Alkoraz completed the
career Grand Slam in tennis at just twenty two years

(01:49:36):
old after defeating Novak Djokovic at the Australian Open in
four sets. In the NHL, the Stadium series happening between the.

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
Bruins and the Lightning.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
The Lightning scored within eleven seconds of starting the game,
but the Bruins have just taken the lead. It's two
to one late in the first period. And if you
missed it. Out of the NFL, it seems like all
of the teams have found their head coaches. Arizona plans
to hire Ram offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur, and after the
Super Bowl, the Raiders are expected to hire Seahawks offensive

(01:50:06):
coordinator Clint Kubiak, while the forty nine ers are hiring
Raheem Morris to be their new defensive coordinator. By the way,
the Pro Bowl be so important. Pro Bowl Joe Burrow
has been added to the Pro Bowl. Really, yes, why,
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:50:21):
I don't know that. So it's it's going to be him,
Joe Flacco and Shador oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
So the question goes when Shador and Flacco were added.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
We said, well, it's because everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
Passed on the Pro Bowl exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
Yes, right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Do you think they went back to Joe Burrow a
second time because they had to ask him first? Yes, yes,
before and again I'm not whatever was Shador.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
It's totally fine. Yeah, you know, Joe Flacco like being
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
The Bengals won one game, you know, during his stretch, right,
and so now they go back to Burrow.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
I don't know. It's kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
So we're going to watch the Pro Bowl to why
it's the worst conference play all through their quarterbacks in
the Pro Bowl game.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Yes, again, it's and it's at a convention center this year.
It's going to be in the same building that Radio
Row is at. It's yeah, it's not a real deal.
It's not a stadium. They're not playing in Oakland, you
know where the Raiders used to play. They're not doing

(01:51:26):
any of that. It's going to be at the Convention Center.
That tells you all you need to know about the
Pro Bowl. Yeah, that's insane. All right, thank you very much,
Monsie and Jay. We were talking. The Bruins scored again.
It's three to one on top of the lightning. So
the U the outfits that they wore right now the
lightning are looking like the seventy six Buccaneers down three

(01:51:47):
to one as they wore the creamsicles.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
But they looked good. Boy, did they look good? All right?

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Super Bowl sixty is a week away. The storylines that
are leading up to the week that is Super Bowl
sixty will tell you if they play any fact and
what the outcome could be between the Seahawks and Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:52:02):
He's carry Rhods. I'm Dan Byer. That's next on Fox
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and Chris Burfett, all helping us out as we get
set for Super Bowl sixty, Carrie, there was news this
week involving the Seahawks and the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
They really didn't have a lot to do with the game.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
There was a limited practices for Drake May that he
got ill and didn't practice one day. Darnold dealing with
that oblique May's got the shoulder that he dinged up
in the AFC Championship game. Those may be come storylines
this week. But the Bill Belichick storyline of him getting
snubbed from the Hall of Fame, I don't know if
that's like one point for the Patriots, And I don't

(01:53:10):
know if any Patriot on that team cares if Bill
Belichick is in the Hall of Fame or not. But
it made Belichick look like a sympathetic figure, maybe throw
some empathy towards him of not getting into the Hall
of Fame when he definitely should be a first ballot
Hall of Famer, as many people felt. But it feels

(01:53:31):
like it feels like that may be little motivation for
New England. There was also the report that the Seahawks
could be put up for sale soon after the Super Bowl.
Brock Heward, a former NFL quarterback, does Fox TV, as
we know, but also co hosts his own show up
in Seattle. Thought to himself and put it on Twitter,

(01:53:53):
send it out there, like, is this New England maybe
trying to ruffle the feathers of the Seahawks and their fans.
It's by having this news leaked out at this point,
but it does seem that the Patriots have maybe gotten
some motivation this week, while the Seahawks are now going
to be talking about not only that but losing their
offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
Does any of that play into Super Bowl sixty?

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
I don't think so, Dan. I think a lot of
the Bill Belichick stuff. Obviously he's illumin domineering figure in
that area for sure. I think the NFL in general,
but in New England obviously will always be revered. But
right now they're living in the moment, in the present.
The president is variable, and this team and I know
the way they like to operate in that area. Like,

(01:54:35):
I don't think they're word about that too much. I
think it's more about us and people that cover it
and people that have seen you know, you know, Belichick
and those guys during that run and knowing how dominating
they were, but also not just dominating, they did half
things that popped up that were a little weird. So
I could see any side taking whatever side they want.
Belichick would be a Hall of Famer first battle or not. Like,

(01:54:58):
So it doesn't really bother me and Seattle with that news.
And you know, the possibility of new ownership and selling
a team and all that stuff, that is kind of
unfortunate at this time with you know, you know, you
wouldn't want that to come out right now while you're
about to play the biggest game of your lives. And
so it is a little bit weird. That one was
more weird than the Belichick thing for me in my mind.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
Yeah, it's unique for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Because there was some question to Seattle's owners ownership structure
when Paul Allen passed away, but Jody Allen has.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
Been the head of that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
But it says in the trust that the team must
be sold according to Paul Allen's wishes and if you want,
if you are to sell, if you happen to win
Super Bowl sixty, what greater time to do so in
selling high Although I'm not even sure if winning or
losing matters when it comes to selling a team in
the NFL, because the valuations are so ridiculous. It is

(01:55:49):
just interesting that the timing of this story just happens
to be the week leading up to it like this,
This would have been a story at any week throughout
the NFL season, right, You could have done it in
week fourteen, week fifteen. And and I don't know, maybe
the Seahawks use it as a positive, but it's being
spun in a way that it almost serves as a
distraction for them.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
No, it's one hundred percent time. And and and the
fact that it did get leaked by or you know,
allegedly it got leaked by some New England.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Or seth Wickersham.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Yes, people said, you know who did an expose on
the Patriots, people saying like he probably had sources within
the Patriots organization that gave him this news.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Yeah, that would be that would be kind of par
for the course of something that New England would have
their sticky hands all over, you know what I mean.
So it does it doesn't help that it's New England
and its spot with them.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
I do think that the timing was not coincidental. Yeah,
I think that. I think that it was sent out
for this week because then it's a story that you
talk about leading up to it. That's this happens all
the time, and that's why that's why the Quasia Dolpha
Mensa firing in Minnesota was so weird when you heard

(01:57:03):
the response from insiders who said, yeah, this has been
this has been going on for a while, but no
one said it like you would to the point of
whether there's more behind the scenes of what's going on
in Minnesota. The fact is is you could see Sam
Donald having great success and JJ McCarthy have a difficulty
staying healthy and catching on as a reason to maybe

(01:57:24):
make that sort of move with a general manager.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
That wouldn't have been out of the ordinary.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
So for that news to not come out at all
and people then going to be like, yeah, we've been
hearing this is weird. But then for this to be
dropped in the week leading up to the week of
the Super Bowl, to me is I do smell something
a little fishy about the timing of it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
I agree with Brock youyword.

Speaker 3 (01:57:45):
Yeah, it's definitely fishy. But Dan, you talk about like
when you leave a situation player coach GM doesn't matter.
A lot of stuff is kept in house, right, and
so I mean there are reporters and you know, people
insiders that could be getting information, and but yeah, they're
not gonna They're not gonna leak it until the guy
is gone. And that and that part sucks because you know,

(01:58:08):
obviously it's already sour tasting your mouth for the guy
that got fired, and even the team if they're part
in ways for the most part, then you pole on,
I just don't like the power and now of it.
So I agree with you on just how it just
how it happens. Just stand in front of what you
have and what you know. That's kind of who I shure.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
Yeah, do you think do you think that Clint Kubiak's
hiring of the Raiders is any distraction for the Seahawks?

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
You know, I hate the timing of these hiring cycles,
so yes it is.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
Yeah, there's no good there's no good time. But this
season take you know, this isn't a good time, not
at all, to say the least.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Yeah, I wonder. I wonder as well.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
And it's funny because I think when the Eagles lost
to the to the Chiefs in Super Bowl fifty seven, Yep,
there was the pointing of Jonathan Gammon, what are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Yeah, you're interviewed for the Cardinals job.

Speaker 2 (01:58:57):
Yet they also lost their offensive coordinator and their offense
is pretty darn good that game with Shane Stikeen ending
up getting the head coaching job then with the Colts,
so there was there was something, so you kind of
can't have it both ways. It was almost damned if
you do, damned if you don't. For whatever, egos coordinator.
If they didn't win that Super Bowl, somebody was going
to be blamed for it. I think Seattle will be
able to navigate it and let Clan Kubiaka then go

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(01:59:41):
going to be watching Super Bowl sixty?

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Carry? What are your Super Bowl playing?

Speaker 3 (01:59:44):
Yeah? I'm gonna be in Alabama. I'm going to see
the family. I haven't seen him in the while, so
it's gonna be fun. Get to see my brothers and
my nephews and you know, mom, dad, all of that,
so it'll be a fun time. I know you're heading
up to San Francisco right now, right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah, I'll be heading out to taking the trek up
up Field Freeway from Los Ange Angelus to San Francisco tonight,
so I'll be making the drive and then I'll be
at the game on Sunday. So you and I won't
be together next Sunday, but we'll reconvene the week after
for our post football rendezvous.

Speaker 1 (02:00:12):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
Yes, sir, have a safe travels man, and then have fun.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
Out there, you two as well, So for Carrie Rhodes,
Monte Milanos, Lee the Lap and Mary Mack. I'm Dan Byer.
Thanks so much to listening to End Zone Radio on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Have a good one.

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