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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Adam A or is it a carb face?

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Adam A? Today?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
After our Thanksgiving? There, Adam, what do we got?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
And you took a real hard look at me before
you said that. Just acquire reminds you know, there's more
of me to love now. I'm not the only one
who got fatter in the last forty eight hours.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
You did take down a couple of cylinders of the
Pillsbury you know, cresset rolls, and you know.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Okay, so eight of them come in one cylinder, okay,
and I definitely had more than eight, okay. And I
probably took down a stick of butter along with my
Pillsbury dough boy.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
That's a stick of butter each, right if I remember correctly.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, that's right. Okay, Hey makes or taste good. Hey,
it works for me. I went to town. How is your Thanksgiving?
They see it was great? Did you clean up? Did
you do all right? I did? Okay.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I kind of slowed down also as I get a
little bit older in age, I can't really take down
as much as I used to, you know, so so
just three plates, yeah exactly, so instead of nine plates,
have to take it down to six this year. But no,
I would say typically honestly back in the day, especially
when I was in my prime, and buy my prim
of me like a ginormous you know, bulbous looking fat ass.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Well, I mean, if I'm to be honest, I would
I would disagree with that. That's not how I. You've
seen the picture, okay, but that's a picture. It could
be a I from two.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I made job of the hut look like Calista Flocard
for God's sake. It was so bad back so back
then I was probably taking down you know, four or
five plates easily on a holiday. Well to this year,
I took down about one and a half two.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Do you ever feel like there was a time when
you're watching Joy Chestnut now and you're like back in my.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Prime, absolutely, like, yeah, I would have destroyed this gup
ninety five hot dogs please do that my.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Sleep and he gets to put the buns in the
water afterwards. That's seating. A week I put ketchup on mine.
I'm taking time, I'm romance in those buns.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now, I'm just getting queasy seeing somebody like double fisting
a couple of regular dogs or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was, Like, that's that's a lot to take down. Well,
you know, it's probably for the best. We're here, We're alive,
We made it through Thanksgiving, and the trip to fan
is behind us.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
We got a three hour show for you guys. Sam straight,
damn straight coming up later in the show. Obviously, we
have our NFL six pack, like we have every week.
First time on the show, our coworker here at Fox
Sports Radio, our colleague Kerry Rhoades. We hear on End
Zone Sundays with Dan Byer gonna join us. Played for
the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinal's gonna come
on to talk about what was a busy and still

(02:27):
will be a very busy week thirteen in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Won't be the last time he comes on with us.
I hope we just have to like really just hammer
it home that we're the good guys around here. You
want to hang out with us, come truly FNA forever.
All right, Let's start things off, as we always do,
with a little first off there go time.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's wrong, Adam know was hungry Chiefs and Ravens fans
hungky for answers.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
That's what it is. How about that? Okay, both teams
six and six, both teams losing on Thanksgiving and we
actually he got some really good games on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
We did what doesn't always happen, by the way, I
feel not and maybe it's anecdotal, but I feel like
more often than not, so now we've had this three
games slayed on Thanksgiving for what maybe like the last
fourteen year or something like that.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yeah, and I prefer the third game not on NFL
network and on MBC now that works out better.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Definitely, definitely, And I feel like, and like I said,
it's only anecdotal that two of the three most of
the time are just not entertaining to watch.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
We got two of the three that were because the
last game, even still, people thought the Ravens were gonna
make a run and come back and win.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, because how bad the Bengals have been and how
resilient the Ravens have been throughout this win streak.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well, the Bengals defense is so bad, historically bad, Yet
the Ravens couldn't score on him.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know, five turnovers look pretty damn good to me.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, I was impressed. That's what Joe Burrow does for you.
He comes back with his good looks. He's like a
movie star, film movie type of quarterback. That's what he
looks like out there, Like, I don't know what the
hell I'm watching. And I gotta say last week, I
was wrong. I don't say this very often.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
I was.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I did plan on asking you about this at some point.
Of course, you are about them, whether or not to
bring Joe Burrow back into the lineup, and what is essentially,
although not mathematically eliminated quite yet, basically a lost season
for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Cool, dreamy Joe kind of won me over. He did
by what he said pregame. He made it, he made it,
he put it in just the right way. He said it.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
He said, basically when all fans kind of want star
athletes have to say.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
The quote is, we're getting paid a lot of money
to play a kid's game. I just want to put
on a show for the fans. He says.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
I don't feel right being healthy and not playing, which yeah,
makes sense to me. I don't want to sit there
and just collect the check.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I get it. If you're healthy, play I would understand
if they if they were mathematically eliminated, or if there
was just two games left, how many games were left
for them? Six five or five six? Yeah, that's too many.
You can't just sit there on the sidelines with a
headset on or holding a clipboard when you're healthy to
go out there and play like. I can understand that

(05:02):
weighing on somebody as talented as him.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Organizationally speaking, I can certainly understand if they were to say, hey, Joe,
I understand that you're one hundred percent. That's great, but
we're not going anywhere this year. With all due respect,
you've been injury prone, and you know what, that's not
even your fault. That's our fault because the infrastructure around
you has been terrible. Our offensive line, who actually didn't
play that badly on Thursday night, by the way.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
They're like just outside the top ten of Pro Football Focus.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
The defensive line has been much better this year than
people would have anticipated. But you know what, based on
all of that, we're just gonna sit you out. We're
going to make the executive executive decision will be the
bad guys will tell the media it was our decision
and they didn't do that. But you know what, you
brought this up last week too. They still got to
sell some tickets. You know, there's still games left in
the regular season.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
There's still season tickets or PSLs or whatever it's called
that has to be done. That's probably a part of this.
But there is an outside shot they could still win
the division and get into the playoffs because the Ravens
they took, they took care of business and helped their
own cause there and the division. It's ancestual. There's so
many games between themselves right now. Are the AFC North

(06:06):
is Like, did you guys play each other once? It
doesn't seem like it right Like every game is just
an AFC North bloodbath type of gauntlet battle the rest
of the way here. Plus, look, yes, he could get
injured again, but it's also well, they have the entire
offseason to recover from that injury. Now if it's something catastrophic.
But you can't plan for all those things. You just can't.
If you're healthy, you're a football player, you probably should

(06:28):
be playing.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, I can't play, scared, just got to go out
there and play in Baltimore. And I'll say this too,
they have not really looked overly impressive, even over that
five game win streak that they had leading up to
this game. You've been saying this, especially offensively. Now, look,
win games, do whatever it takes to win, get into
the tournament. When you have a player like Lamar Jackson,
just get there can be enough and he can catch fire.
The problem is he's not been good. I would even

(06:51):
go back to maybe after the second half of that
Miami game. Even during this streak, offensively, they've just been
a shell of themselves. Defensively, they've improved a lot, and
I don't even put Thursday Night Lost on the defense,
to be honest with you, He's on them all over
five times three of those turnovers coming in plus territory
are minus territory. That's hard for anybody to overcome.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That interview Lamar Jackson had near his own end zone
was pitifull, like that was just that can't happen. That
to me is lack of daisical to the point where
you feel like we can spot them ten points and
we can still come back. That's just not having a
sense of urgency out there whatsoever. And being ready for
the ball game.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, And I don't know if that means you just
feel that you're that much more superior than the Bengals,
which may be on paper you were, but again, they
get a shot in the arm by getting one of
the best quarterbacks in the league back in the lineup.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
You kind of have to know that as the opponent.
And they had won five in a row against the Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns,
and Jets. Here, so a lot of bad teams outside
the Bears. Yeah, there's four bad teams there, really bad teams.
They haven't proven themselves against top tier competition. And now
it's the Steelers next, then the Bengals again, the Patriots,

(07:59):
the Packers, and the Steelers in Pittsburgh their final game.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Now, one thing we talked about, Adam, and this is
something you harped on too, and saying, you know, don't
count Baltimore out when they're one and five is because
their schedule was not the most difficult. Now, at the time,
we didn't know the Patriots were going to be the
Patriots that they are.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Now the number one overall seed in the ANFC.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Right, we didn't know that the Bengals were going to
be resurgent with now Joe Burrow back in the mix
for them.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
I didn't think he was coming back.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, And so in Pittsburgh, we didn't know what to think.
You know, there were tops in the division. We knew
they had to play them two more times. But now
all of a sudden, this thing looks like it's, to
your point, very much up in the air. With as
inconsistent as Pittsburgh has been, and I'll be I'm not.
I don't think I'm surprising anybody by saying I expect
them to lose the Buffalo, although Buffalo's not been consistent either,
but I expect Buffalo to be Pittsburgh. That means both
of those teams are going to be six and six

(08:45):
going into their matchup next Sunday.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's going to be a huge one. I think the
one thing I didn't count on, and you touched upon
it to start off talking about that matchup on Thanksgiving,
was Lamar Jackson looking this poor. Well. I expected him
to be the one guy though, that you could rely
upon that would carry them if they were gonna have
a chance to win the AFC North. It was because
Lamar Jackson is just so damn good in playing at

(09:07):
an MVP level and he is going to bring you
along with him. The defense actually is playing better than him. Yeah, well,
he and he missed so many games in the year.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
You're like, once he gets back healthy, comes back after
the bye week, he'll be healthy, he'll be fun. The
problem is he's not been healthy. He's just been nicked
up the entire season.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's one.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
If it's not one thing, it's another. And he's never
been fully one hundred percent, and it's one thing to
just kind of play through a couple of you know,
Tiki tech injuries here and there. He just doesn't look right.
Something is hampering him.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
He doesn't look like Michael Vick two point zero right now.
By the way I was, I don't know, maybe I
was on the toilet looking up some things on my
phone on chat, GBT or something like that. I was
just bored. It's the holidays, You're gonna do what I want.
But I was looking at who's faster between him and
Michael Vick top speed, and it came out that he
ran a four point three three in the forty and

(09:55):
Michael Vick ran a four point three to two. But
I don't know if well, Mars was electronically timed with
the new technology in Michael Vicks was just a stopwatch
back in the early two thousands either or late nineties
is when he was drafted.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I'm not really sure. I mean, they both were obviously
pretty damn dynamic.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's what matters most above all things that are happening
right now in the NFL. Jackson Master, That's what I'm
here for. Still something Ryan tells you.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Baltimore Raven fans can give two damns about that at
this moment in time.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
To be honest with you, Okay, but what about Vic
and Madden five on the cover that version of Michael Vick?
Could he be able to outspin him out? Ju Cam? Okay,
I don't know. I just those are two of my
favorite players ever to watch, obviously because they are like
video games out there, and I was just thinking to myself, Well,
Lamar's a little bit shiftier, he's a little bit smaller,
he's a little bit thinner. But what about top speed.

(10:47):
Remember that one time that Vic had the touchdown to
win the game against the Vikings, I think in overtime
with the two defenders when flying into one another, who
was actually the fastest quarterback of all time. Steve Young
was in the conversation Once upon a time.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
This is a week thirteen discussion that we have right
here when we're talking about the NFL, is who's faster
between one guy that played twenty years ago and one
guy that's playing now.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
All right, a fast segue out of my terrible transition
there offsheet of a subject.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well before we transition off of the Baltimore Ravens though,
So we talked about how they got off to the
slow start. There were one in five. You thought they'd
surge back and won the division as we sit right now, Adam,
since you spoke so boldly about your confidence in them
and being able to come back and win the AFC,
North predicted not wrong yet. So I'm saying, I was like,
have you changed your temb based on what you know?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay? Because you just said you expect Buffalo to beat
the Steelers this week? Do I expect them?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Both teams to be six and six going into their
matchup next weekend?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
So Baltimore's fine, They're gonna get help from Buffalo. I
think the same thing is going to happen against Aaron
Rodgers with him just having one healthy right risk currently,
so they're not in that bad of shape. They could
afford a loss like this because they had won five
in a row and righted the ship and the Steelers
came back to the pack. So it's right about where

(12:00):
I thought it would be. I said when I made
that bold proclamation. It's still going to come down to
the final game between them at the end of the season,
so they're gonna be jockeying back and forth for position
in the AFC North. But yeah, that's a huge game
next week is that game? Oh, it's an early game.
It is. When do the flexes start? When do we

(12:21):
start flexing things to Sunday night football? Because I feel
like Ravens Raven Steelers is as close as you can
get to a playoff game right now.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And you're gonna get a lot of eyeballs to a
big time fan basis.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I felt like the flexing started this upcoming weekend, like
Week thirteen, Week fourteen, but still have some crappy games
in primetime.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
So I'm doing a pos down like Ronnie Coleman to
get that game into Sunday Night Prise Bowl. But some
were saying that actually the first playoff game was between
Dallas and Kansas City on Thanksgiving Day, and those typically
get a great Dallas Cowboys matchup or a very good
lines matchup. We got both, and the Dallas Cowboys came through.

(13:01):
Their defense looks better. They were able to stop Patrick Mahomes,
who when their backs are against the wall, you just
expect Kansas City to win and pull those type of
games out. Didn't happen, should you?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
You realize that last year, and we talked about it
coming into this season. They were eleven to zero in
one score games last year when they won fourteen games,
whatever it was, it was a lot one in six
and one score games this year. Look, we thought the
pentulum was gonna swing back a little bit. I didn't
think it was literally gonna go all the way to
the other end of the column.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Who's our guy that's always tweeting you up on Friday
nights and saying look out for KC is still gonna
win the division? Here they come.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Look if I said this last year, and I haven't
brought Eloi up by name when we talked, we did
the NFL six pack, and I say, Kansas City Chiefs
and your fans, you better watch out like you are
in real danger of potentially missing the postseason.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I will not say they got lucky.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
And beating Indianapolis last week, because I know they were
down double digits, but the Colts were not playing that well,
to be honest with you. The Chiefs just kind of
shot themselves in the foot to start that game, and
that's why the Colts got out to a decent enough
So I put that mora on Kansas City just playing
poorly and finding way to scrap and come back in
the second half. I give them credit for that because
sans that. Could you imagine if they were lost last
week and would have lost on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
It might be over already.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It might look it might anyway at six and six
right now, the way he is gonna be e or
and a little bit here. Hey, you know, there's just
a lot for them to be able to overcome. The
defense is still statistically solid in most areas outside of
rushing the past, of which they're bad at. But they
got exposed against Dallas. You know, you can say Dallas
is one of the best offices in the NFL. Sure,
Dallas got shut down by Denver. So if you could,

(14:33):
if you tout yourself as a big time, you know
unit on the defensive side that can match up with anybody.
And nobody loves de spec nolo as much as I do.
That's a that's a game where your defense has to
be able to step up and they weren't able to
do it.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
And Dak Press and Prescott he's had a marvelous year.
If they make the playoffs, he should get MVP VOS.
I don't disagree he should.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Look I said this coming into that people say, like
the Cowboys didn't do squad last year, is like, well,
you don't have your quarterback. That's gonna happen when he
misses half the season.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Shot.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Look at the Cincinnati Bengals right now. What if Joe
Burrow hadn't gotten hurt and I'd been playing this entire time,
maybe they're in the division leader right now in the
AFC North. That always makes a difference. One thing I
will say, the big thing about Kansas City they have
working against him is the fact that they can't run
the ball. Even if you look at the numbers, I
think the middle of the pack, but if you watch
them actually play the game, they're not really a run threat.

(15:21):
And I think most teams know that. So you take
away Pat Mahomes in the passing game, it look they're
still great. They still make their sure of plays. On
Thursday against the Cowboys, It's not Dallas ran him off
the field by any stretch.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Mahomes still had a superman like play where he's falling
to the turf and he gets that pass off on
what a fourth down or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, four touchdown passes, didn't turn the ball over. I mean,
you can't ask Patrick Mahomes to do more than he's
already doing. But the guy needs help. And one thing
I thought about too, I think one of the best
things that could happen to Kansas City. And I'm not
saying this just because I'm a Raider fan. I think
missing the playoffs is probably one of the best things
that can happen for the organization and the fans. Really,
there's a certain element of like, if you continue to win,

(15:58):
your flaws don't seem that big, that big of a
deal to you. So sometimes it takes like a shock
to the system for you to say, like, oh, all right,
this is really an issue, because if it weren't, we'd
be in a much different position than we are now.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
He actually said that with them after the Super Bowl
against the Buccaneers because of their offensive line. That's right,
and how they were getting to Patrick Mahomes, who made
some spectacular plays and was trying to do everything out there,
but they were just letting the Buccaneers rush him the
entire time because the offensive line was beat up.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
It was a turnstile at that point, so they had Look,
they've addressed the offensive line a little bit these last
couple of years. It's still not great, but it's certainly improved.
They got to find a way, and this has been
a criticism of Andy Reid, going back to his Philadelphia days,
a time where he would get away from the run
game and get a namber throwing the ball with whether
it was Vick or McNabb or whoever, you just gotta
be able to keep defenses honest at a certain point.
As great of a quarterback as Pat Mahomes is, you know,

(16:49):
he is Superman to a degree, but even Superman has kryptonite.
Not to be too cliche, the guy can't do it
all by himself. Every single solitary week. You got to
get the guy at least some legitimate threat of a
run game, just to keep defense a little bit honest,
and that's something they've not been able to do really
probably the last four.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Years, to be honest with you. So you are kind
of lex Luger to start off this season talking about
Kansas City Chiefs, but you still had them making the playoffs,
I believe, just not winning the division, say they'd be
a wildcard. I'm gonna ask you a question now, since
you confroned me about what I said about the Ravens
a month or so ago, where do you see Kansas
City ending up now?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
As of right now, I will still say that they
make it in but it is very much cheetering because
you also have to consider they don't have the easiest schedule.
They play Houston next week. That can be a de
facto playoff game. Houston is right in the division race
and they have a big game against the Colts this weekend.
But they're also knocking on the door of the AFC
wildcard race too with five losses I.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Believe it is. And after that is the Chargers the.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Charges, which is a division game. I know they're beat up,
but they're getting a little bit healthier now. Amario Hampton
might be back for them coming up next weekend for
that game against Kansas City or in two weeks, I
should say. And look, they have a couple of cupcakes
sandwiched in between a game with the Denver Broncos. I
think they have the Titans, and they finished off with
the right with the Raiders. They do, so it's not
necessarily the easiest schedule down the stretch here for Kansas City,

(18:05):
there's not you can't say, maybe you can bake in
the Titans and Raiders as easy victories, sure, but the
other three are absolute toss ups.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I just like seeing a team like this, maybe at
the end of their run, before they do a retool,
as you were mentioning earlier, being in a state of
desperation where they have no room for error and they
just have to go out there and win. I'm interested
to see what happens now. I kind of thought felt
like that coming into the Dallas Cowboys game, and I

(18:32):
thought they were gonna win that one. But now Dallas
is a team that feels like, oh, hey, we can
run the table here and we make the playoffs in
the NFC.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
So yeah, And I speaking of the Dallas Cowboys, I
want to talk about them and their nfcast counterpart who
took it on the chin on Friday night. I was
against the resurgent Chicago Bears. Are you a believer now
in Kayleb Williams.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm a believer in the bads of bad of Bass.
We'll talk about a shakeup in the NFC East.

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The Cowboy I was getting that victory over Philly last week,
carrying that over to the Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday,
and then what happened on Black Friday between Marks Bears
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Speaker 3 (20:20):
All right, welcome back in. It's fn A on FSR.
Still to come later this hour. We got some stranger
than fiction for you. Next hour, NFL six Packs starts up.
But Kevin, we got more NFL talk here. Do we
want to touch upon the Detroit Lions losing and well.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Practically yeah, oh, it was a huge game in the
in the the NFC, NFC North with Green Bay who
has been fairly inconsistent despite their record at now what
eight three and one, but just not your super Bowl
pick by the way out of the NFC and just have.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
You say it like that, your super Bowl pick.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Well, look, there's there's there's kind of a connection here
to the bear to a certain degree too, like the
finding ways to win even though it might not be
the prettiest at times.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, you know, and so stole points count more in
the college football playoff rankings, for sure.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Thousand and we'll get into that a little bit later,
for sure, because there are some huge shakeups when it
comes to that. Yes, but even look Jordan Love with
the four touchdown passes, and as good as they looked offensively,
his efficiency numbers still.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Are not that great.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I'll say this, two percentage isn't that high. But he
makes plays when he needs to. He makes all the
important throws when necessary.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
That game, the way they came out and through the ball,
it was he was dropping bombs. Was like they knew
going in, Okay, we're taking on Detroit. In Detroit, Jared Goff,
They're probably gonna put up some points. We have to
play like this is what's the old cliche of, you know,

(21:49):
field goals lose you games. Touchdowns win you games. It's
not a field goal type of game. You have to
get six. You got to get that extra point in
there too. You got to do it all right. And
they had the right mindset for once, like they let
loose with Jordan Love a little bit more instead of
playing it safe because they knew it would likely be
a high scoring game.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, which ended up being I mean, neither offense really
got slowed down a whole lot, and honestly, for Detroit,
as it often always does, turn it over on downs
a couple of times, that ends up biting you a
little bit. Now, again I'm not necessarily critical of when
they decided to go for it. There was like a
fourth and three from like midfield at that point. I
think it was like in the second quarter in that situation.
I don't necessarily mind it too much. Yeah, So it's just.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Like Campbell's gonna Dan Campbell, that's the new riverboat Ron.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
But to a certain degree I understand, Like, again, this
is the mentality that he's built into his team. His
team knows they're going to be the defense knows that,
the offense knows that they probably know on third down,
if it's third and eight and we get four yards,
we're going forward on fourth down. It's already baked into
our game plan. We know what's happening.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And when it is like that, I appreciate it. When
you know you're in four down territory and you're calling
plays accordingly because you know you're gonna be aggressive like
he always is. That's fine, and the rest of the league,
by the way, plays the analytics more than ever. Anyways,
He's just an extreme version of that, you could say.
But they're seven to five now. They're behind not just

(23:09):
Green Bay, but the Bears, who won earlier in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And by the way, right there with the Dallas Cowboys
with HM, I wonder who they play next. That's right,
the Detroit Lines play the Cowboys next. That can be
a playoff elimination.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Game, right there. Where's that game at I have to.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Double check on that. I believe it's in Detroit. I
believe it's in Detroit. Say Detroit, that's on Thursday night.
I know it's coming up this Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh my goodness. So it's in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Bre says, yeah, so that's a huge game for both teams.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, so we're getting this Dallas Cowboys surge late in
the season working in our favor as the viewers. We
needed them to trade Michael Parsons to start slow, to
eventually trade for Quinn Williams. They're turning things around their
offense was always there. The defense is starting to catch
up and it's creating some high drama on the NFL.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Schedule, just like Jerry Jones doing up right.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
He's all about it. Jerry Jones knows more drama than
T and T. T and T don't know drama like
Jerry Jones. He knew exactly what he was doing when
he started this entire thing.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Let's trade one of the best players of the NFL
at the start of the season so everybody can talk
about us. Let's suck for about a month and a
half two months so everybody can talk about how much
of a disaster we are. Let's make another trade for
another good defensive player up front, and then let's change
the entire narrative for now. How people say that we're
a potential Super Bowl consender. Some people are saying, well,
I won't go that far.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
The mad genius is working things out. But I'll say this,
when you talk about the NFC North and the connections
and how everybody's tied together here, well, Ben big Johnson,
former OC with the Detroit Lions, has his team at
the top of the division at nine and three. I
never would have seen this come in nine and three

(24:47):
in this division, ahead of the Packers and the Detroit Lions.
So if the Lions end up somehow not making the
playoffs here all that talk in the offseason of they're
losing their coordinators, how are they going to be able
to respond to that? And then more eyeballs and more
of a hot seat will be on Dan Campbell, like,
you're not hiding behind your oc anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
To us air, I mean hide good hot seat in
that people are gonna say maybe a little bit of
the shine is off, not hot seat, and that he's
in danger of losing his job.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You remember a couple of years ago when they lost
that playoff game to the forty nine ers, and he
was like, I don't know if we're ever going to
get this far again.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That was the NFC championship game. Correctly, yes, that's very hard.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Some of these guys will not be on the team again,
and we may have missed our shot. So that's why
he was so heartbroken. Maybe that will be as far
as they ever go because they came back, we are
the number one seed last year and then get upset
by the Commanders.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Well look, I mean, look, you still have golf, you
still Frank Reagan I was coming out of retirement. I
guess at the right time, it will help that offensive line.
I don't know how hell soon before he gets thrown
into into the starting lineup Frank the tank. But this
idea that the shine is off and the Detroit Lions
are going back to be the old Detroit Lions. I'm
not willing to go that far that quick, that this soon,
not that far.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I mean, they're not gonna gozh and sixteen, They'll go
own seventeen.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I gotta give Dan Campbell a little bit of credit.
It's just seedingly rare that you have a New England
Patriot or Kansas City. And maybe it's not that re
considering they both basically happened, you know, in back to back,
you know, decades, whatever you want to call it. But
to have this long standing dynasty of winning eleven, twelve,
thirteen games a year, nobody does that. Heaven't forbid the
Detroit Lions have a step half a half step back

(26:25):
and have a ten and seven season.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
The only question is, I'm not saying they're going back
to the dark ages. I am wondering if they missed
the playoffs somehow this season. Did they miss their window
because at one point Dan Campbell thought about that. So
I'm gonna definitely be thinking about it if we're two
years past that.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
The NFC championship. Yeah, I feel like coaches say this
stuff all the time. He's talking about this team. I've
never had a team be as tight as these guys.
I think he might've literally just been talking about that
team in that particular season. Yeah, so I less and
less about the core of the team.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
If you go from an NFC championship to get the
number one overall seed, being upset by the Commanders in
the second round in the divisional round, and then the
next season you end up not making the playoffs, there
is a clear regression going on. But I guess we
still have time to see. I gotta give them time.
I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
I mean, how many times does the the Peyton Mannings
Colts make the playoffs one seed and the team at
the time they won the championship they got in is
like a wild card. I'm not saying you're saying it's over,
like they have no chance of competing after this, like
it's all over, it's done.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Forget it. Well, back it up. You're talking about tent
when you're talking about Detroit like airing on the safe
side is saying it's overtypically, if.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You play the numbers, I guess that makes sense. I'm
not willing to call it quits. I say, you know,
they they've been so they've been so good since what
twenty twenty two, I believe his second season at the Helme.
It's only been with three four years. I'm willing to
give him a mulligan of a season to see how
they come back next year.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Well, we always say progress isn't linear. Regression usually isn't either.
And the other side of this, with the Chicago Bears
and Ben Johnson, what they're doing right now doesn't Garret Oh,
They're going to be the favorites next season because they'll
have Caleb Williams in his third year and his second
year with Ben Johnson. That's not how things work. They're
winning right now. They won a lot of close games.

(28:10):
They've come through late, and today's game was no different.
I mean, they beat the Eagles at their own game,
or at least what their own game used to be.
Ran the ball down there.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
The Eagles can't run a look at this point in time,
but two rushers Monongui in swift, both over one hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's incredible. I just couldn't believe. I think it was
the fourth and three that didn't go for early in
the fourth quarter, and they showed a shot of the
Eagles fans and there were a couple of guys swearing
in green Mexican wrestler masks. That was the highlight of
the season to me so far.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Or were they actually swearing in Spanish or were they
swearing in English?

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I don't know. Is I karumba thing or like all
I knew is they were shaking their fists of the
fact they weren't going for it and they just can't
move the ball. They can't do anything on offense, particularly
at some point they have I think the highest on
the offensive side of the ball in the NFL, and
they can't get it together. And at some point you

(29:06):
keep giving them the benefit of the doubt over and
over again, like we've done in the past with KC.
And last year they figured it out, they got to
the Super Bowl, they got run by the Eagles, but
still Eagles win the Super Bowl. And we're still waiting
for them to engage in this season and look like
a team that could still just find a way to
win a bunch of close games in the playoffs and

(29:27):
make it back there. I don't know if that team's
ever walking through the door, though it doesn't look like
it will.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
And by the way, we're talking about, you know, teams
coming up out of nowhere, and the Dallas Cowboys creeping.
You realize there are only one game back of the
Eagles in the lost column in the NFC East. You
realize that, right, And they got a win on them.
They have a win on them, shut them out in
the second half last week. As bad as Dallas looked
in the first half, I would say, specifically the first
quarter of that game against Philadelphia last week, the second
half was ridiculous, absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
So the Dallas Cowboys have just beaten the last two
Super Bowl participants and winners at the same and back
to back weeks. The Bears beating them, though, I don't know,
should that be the bigger story here than the Eagles losing.
It depends.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Well, say, look, it's big for the Bears because the
Bears have been so bad for so long. They've been
able to do nothing offensively. It's been an embarrassment the
last couple of years. Caleb Williams, as we've talked about,
that nauseaum has been proved.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Even though his numbers might not be.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
The most spectacular. Have They've been able to run the
ball though the Bears have been, you know, fluctuated between
the best or second best run team in the entire league.
And to your point, they kind of out eagled the
Eagles on Friday Night. That's the most impressive part to
me that the mentality of the team has completely changed
overnight under Ben Johnson, who was lauded as this quarterback
whisperer that's supposed to fix Caleb Williams, he's in the

(30:46):
process of doing that. But in the process of doing that,
he's turned them to a physical, tough, running football team
that is not going to be bullied. And I think
that's as impressive as anything.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I think it's actually brilliant. You fix him by having
him do less, Yes, because you can run the ball,
You're putting less pressure on him. You only let him
do plays that he's actually comfortable with. They have thirty
three offensive touchdowns now on the season. That matches the
amount they had all of last year. Last year on

(31:16):
Black Friday, they're firing their head coach. Now they're gonna
give Big Ben Johnson a Heroes welcome when he returns
back to Chicago, always taking.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
A shirt off and doing the celebration in the locker room.
I mean, Shytown's on fire right now. It's incredible.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Look.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
I did like to hire a lot because he was
very creative with what he did with the Detroit Lions.
But I still didn't see this coming in this division
and for them to be beating some of the best
teams in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Nobody, Mark, Mark Ramsey, our resident Bears fan, You cannot
honestly tell me that you saw the Chicago Bears being
nine and three at this point in the season, did you.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
No.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
I was just hoping that they could win and win decently,
and that looked like bums all the time. And better
than that.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, just knock on the door of five hundred and
not embarrass yourselves out there.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Just not embarrass yourself.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, at least be able to score a touchdown
and field goal.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
They're making the opposition look like bums out there. They
had the first one hundred yard rusher on the Eagles
in their last thirty four games over the last two seasons.
They're the first to have one hundred yard rusher against
the Eagles. More impressive as that they had two hundred
yard rushers by the way, it was a clinic. It's
it's impressive. I think the only reason I'll go back

(32:29):
to the question that I asked you quiz hotshot, like,
what's the bigger story here between the Eagles and the Bears.
We still don't believe the Bears are a true contender.
We're still looking to see if the Eagles want to
be this season, So the story might still be in
the losing locker room. Has Ben Mallow would always say.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, I think the story is definitely with the Eagles
because the problem is we've seen them do it. Yeah,
we saw them get down big against the Rams and
find a way to come back on the backs of
their passing game. Like we've seen it a couple of
times this year where they've been down and they found
ways to come back and win. The problem is now
we're getting down to as people would say, nut cutting
time and kind of you know, figuring out, you know,
who's real and who's not. They're playing their worst at

(33:07):
the worst time of the season. There's still five weeks
to be able to figure it out. Sure, they can
turn it around, they can catch fire. But the problem
is they've been in the midst of being able to
win games while not playing their best and it's actually
starting to catch up with them now.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Well, and they've had these locker room issues.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh well, you know, he had two touchdowns on Friday,
So hopefully he's happy because that's all that matters.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Right, So does this prove is this proof of concept?
Like no, playing through you doesn't help us win, Like
we need to run the ball again, we need to
get back to Eagles football. And I don't think this
is the case.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But there's times where people have said, like, you know,
maybe they just throw the throw the ball to the
guy fifteen times in a losing effort just to prove
to him like, look, we can give the ball as
many times as you want. That's not the recipe for
success for us to win.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
And then aj Brown post game says, y'all loss. I mean,
I'm good I didn't lose. Y'all loss. I mean they've
been through it with TL before. But look, they caused
the Denver game.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I think that was where he had he had a
huge game but they ended up losing, come from a
head to passion at that.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They have the Chargers next. Oh, that's a Monday night
game December eighth. That's a home game for them. Then
they get the Raiders at at home, then at Washington,
at Buffalo, and then Washington again. It's not the hardest schedule.
They're in pretty good shape because of that. And so
they split with Dallas obviously they went one and one.

(34:24):
Tie breakers come down to head to head, then divisional
record correct, and then conference record. Yes, they're probably still
winning the NFC East. Honestly, I think that's that is.
I don't want to say a foregone conclusion, but they're
really going to have to trick it off, as the
kids say, for them to not win the division.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Statistically, they're the favorite to do it. But I'll put
it this way, based on what I've seen of them
this year, would not surprise me. If they collapsed, would
not surprise me at all.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Now I'm thinking about eminem till I collapse. Exactly was
he lipsinging or not? Could you tell? I never thought
about it. He sounded too good. It's next to Jack White.
That was too good of a performance for me to believe.
Actually that was Super Bowl performances, and we got it
on a Thanksgiving halftime shot.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I know I was producing it. I didn't realize he
was actually going to be performing with Jack White. That
was incredible.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
He ain't lying too about the till I collapse. Like
he's fifty five or something now and he's still doing
this stuff. So until he collapses, he's going to be
doing it all right. What's coming up next? Oh, we
got a little bit of stranger than fiction, you know what.
I know it's the holidays, but you actually might benefit
from not hanging out with your relatives and with your

(35:33):
family right now. I will tell you why. Coming up
next here on F and A on FSR.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and
I'm all out of gum.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Fna, Cottonna, Welcome out to the Fox Sports Radio Studios,
Kevin Figures, Adam Allslin Fna. Here on FSR, Fox Football Saturday.
Coming up next hour, we will begin the Week thirteen
version of the NFL six Pack. But right now, Adam,
let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I passed through the customer defending Criticison called nine to
one one after her McDonald's run out of McNuggets.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
Strange.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at
EWI and he got Unlike.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Cars words that don't have motors, they have a mind
in their own.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Strange twenty four year old man now jues they're throwing
an alligator through a drive through window.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Too high.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Change the fix.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Now, you say, it's the most wonderful time of the
year where you get to catch up with your family
and your loved ones and focus in on what's really
important in life, like eating more than the dude that
died in seven. But maybe you're the black sheep of
the family, or just don't get along well with certain relatives.

(36:49):
You do a friend's giving instead. Nothing wrong with that
or this a father earlier this week, a hunter in
Kentucky up in a deer stand. It gets like a
canopy up high, so you can be the laziest hunter
ever and get that bird's eye view and just pick
off the deer and the bucks that they're going by.
So fun in that I don't know is the retired

(37:12):
hunter thing.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
It's like getting like the automatic hit stick on, like
the Sega Genesis where you can have a turbo button
that you hit, and you just have I Honda just
missed the crap out of somebody up on the corner
in the.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Street Fighter with the thousands slack so fun in that, Yeah,
just shooting down on your prey. So he was up
there and on his phone while he's bored waiting for
the next deer to come by, and he's playing online
lottery games, and he said, quote, I'm in the deer
stand and I was sitting there and I thought, you

(37:42):
know what I'm gonna try. And I got on there
and I won fifteen hundred dollars and then I added
another two hundred to my account. But the man who
will remain anonymous, I guess in case any of his
mooching relatives find out what happened next, he kept getting
calls from family members and he was ignoring them while

(38:05):
playing his lottery games on his phone up in the
deer stand, and said, quote, it was making me mad
because it was freezing up my phone from playing. Then
my son tries to call. I decline it. And then
it was the next thing. I hit. The sound is
a kind of rumbling sound, and I cannot play anymore.

(38:25):
I'm like, there ain't no way. And then is echoing
throughout the woods. Well, that rumbling sound that he heard on
his phone was him winning one point one million dollars
off a thirty dollars wager on a lottery app. He
calls his wife, He sends her a photo to confirm

(38:47):
the win. He said, quote, I thought he was calling
me to tell me that he got a big buck.
Well he got a big buck, all right, a few
I couldn't believe it, he said. We're both crying and
stressing out. I probably would have fallen out of the
deer stand that dropped me like thirty forty feet if
I wasn't careful. So he won a million dollars basically

(39:11):
by ignoring his family. Yes, he's up there the hunter,
and it all works out in his favor because he
sent his son to h read or sent him straight
to voicemail.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So the moral of the story is never answer your
family's phone calls, is what you're saying, Adam.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I guess if my grandma calls me, I'm going straight
to like a gambling bedding app or something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Sorry, granny plan planning this online? Uh poker?

Speaker 6 (39:38):
What real?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Got a real good hand? Yeah? One point one million,
like I don't know. Catching up with the fam ain't
when it used to be. It's got nothing on playing
solitaire on your phone or playing the lottery.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I will not to go gruesome here, but imagine if
there was something that was actually happening of serious note
with his family and someone's trying to get in touch
with you and say someone said is definitely injured, and
he's like, oh, that's horror, but I want a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Like I feel like that probably won't go over as well.
Just throw money at it.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yes, exactly, you know what you know, I want a
million dollars. Cool, you're gonna pay for her medical bills then,
because you're good for it?

Speaker 3 (40:12):
Right. Well, that's why I couldn't find the guy's name
of the story. He's keeping himself anonymous because he still
doesn't want his Maybe his son doesn't even know yet.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Don't have to lie to myself and the rest of
the Fox Sports Radio audience at them. It's okay if
you ignore your family's phone calls.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Look, I'm not a hunter. This isn't me. Well, you
know I didn't win the million dollars, I wouldn't be here.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I was gonna say, if you want a million dollars.
I would sit here by myself. That's for damn sure.
I know that for a fact.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
It's for the love of the game. Like Joel Burrow,
ill be here.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You be coming here with a gold chain around your neck.
Coming up next to six pack here on fn A
on FSR.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Do're listening to Fox Sports Radio d that's right, hour
two of fn A on FSR here on Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Looking forward to a big rivalry weekend in college football
coming up, looking forward to talking about that, looking forward
to talking to Kerry Rhodes.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, later this hour, ad him. He's gonna carry us
through this hour, Carrie Rhoads here on Fox Sports Radio.
You hear him on Sundays, of course, but former player,
I want to get his perspective. There's a lot to
talk about with him, with everything we just already discussed
that has transpired the last forty eight hours here in
the NFL. Week thirteen, though, is upon us, and that.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Means time for the NFL six pack.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Alright, six categories that we go around the league with
every single solitary week. For category number one, where do
we start here.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Mark hot seed heat check, that's right.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
The coacher player under the most pressure this weekend. I'll
get us started here at him, all right, I will
go with the Indianapolis.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Colts at home.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Yes, they were eight and three and still the favorites
to win the AFC South. But your boy Daniel Jones
starting to come back down to earth just a.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Little bit at him. Oh, he's got a fractured leg. Well,
he does.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
So that news did come out here earlier this week,
which we didn't know about, and he hadn't been on
the injury report, and apparently the team was being very
nebulous about it, which is really interesting because I feel
like you're supposed to disclose when guys are actually hurting.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
It's a gambling thing.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's a gambling thing. The league says, Well, it's just
about integrity of the league and figuring out. We all
know what it's about. But anyway, over his past three games,
as turnovers and sack numbers have gone up, his past
efficiency has dipped, not significantly, but I would say at
least noticeably to a certain point. And like I mentioned
this earlier in the show, you can't really point to
him for that collapse against Kansas City because offensively, they

(42:31):
didn't play that well, anyway, to be honest with you,
Chiefs shot themselves in the foot so many times in
that game. They actually found a way to come back
and get the victory. But the Colts offense really after
that first half where they had a couple of short
fields and scored some touchdowns, really didn't do a whole lot.
And so that's really been the theme of these last
three games, two of the last three they've lost. When
Jonathan Taylor gets shut down, Daniel Jones does nothing. He struggles,

(42:56):
is not able to sustain drives for them, and it
begs the question from a long term stand point, is
Daniel Jones good enough to commit to long term as
our quarterback. I know Anthony Richardson has an injury and
all that. Who knows what this situation is gonna be
moving forward. Daniel Jones is not an old guy, and
he certainly has played well in his short tenure there.
But if you're gonna be able to win a championship,
compete for championships, you're going to have a guy that has,

(43:19):
at some point in time is gonna have to put
the team on his shoulders and be able to pass
you to a win or two. You can't just rely
on the running game every single solitary week. Like I
mentioned this about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles earlier, say
what you want about them, and they've had their struggles.
There have been times this season where they've put the
offense on his shoulders and he's been able to make
to make throws and be able to get them victories.
The Vikings game is an example of that. The Rams

(43:39):
game where they came back from double digits down at
home was an example of that. But if we scale
back from the big picture and just look at what's
in front of the Colts right now, I'm not sure
that it's a four gone conclusion. They're gonna win the
AFC South like we thought it was gonna be about
a month ago. At him they have a one game
lead over the Jacksonville Jaguars, who they still play twice.
They have a two game lead over the Houston who

(44:01):
they still played twice, one of which coming up this Sunday.
By the way, what are the other two remaining games
on houston schedule at the Seahawks and home against the
forty nine ers. So it's not like this will be
some sort of cakewalk down the stretch for them either.
All that being said, a Sunday's game against Houston a
ginormous game for Daniel Jones and the Colts offense, and
I'll be honest, I don't know how well they'll fare

(44:21):
against that Houston defense, which has been great all season
long and have really kicked themselves into another year in
recent weeks, namely last week against Buffalo when they sacked
Josh Allen fifteen thousand times. And also, by the way,
lest I Bury the lead c J. Stroud back in
the lineup now and the Houston offense was looking better
before he went out with the concussion three weeks ago,
so their backup quarterback came in and have performed himself

(44:45):
pretty well. Didn't have great numbers, but played well enough
to get them victories.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Helped them get a big comeback in one of those
he did.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
So I'm placing the Colts offense and really this team
as a hole on the hot seat this week because
if they lose would not surprise me at all considering
the schedule that they have remaining and the pressure on
their shoulders at this point in time that we're talking
about Week eighteen, their last game of the regular season
battling for a playoff spot. Either you win or you're out.
Win or you're in, or losing you're out.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
I actually have this also is my hot seat heat check.
I didn't expect to have him here, but the old
blowing your division with a three to one leader of
twenty eight to three lead joke was about the Steelers.
Right now it's about the AFC South and the Indianapolis Colts.
Daniel Indiana Jones lately is looking much much less like

(45:33):
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc and
more like Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, which can
definitely lead to CTE. Maybe he's got the crystal fractured
leg now too.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, I think one of those vipers bit indian the
ass the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
It might actually be more like Indiana Jones than the
Division of Doom, which is how we used to describe
the AFC South, you know, ten years ago, when they
were the worst division in football pretty consistently over the
last ten years and undeserving of an automatic playoff berth.
But right now they got one really good team, two
above average teams, I would say, in the Jags and

(46:08):
the Texans, and as you mentioned, Daniel Jones, he's looking
to average himself lately, no longer trending towards best in
the league. He's fallen to ninth when it comes to
MVP odds, four touchdowns to four picks in his last
three games. They're one and two over that time. As
you mentioned, loosen to the Steelers losing to the Chiefs,
and his dip in production completely correlates with Jonathan Taylor's

(46:32):
loss in production over the last couple of losses. Is
Daniel Jones more dependent on Jonathan Taylor than Taylor is
on him. I think it's possible. It's kind of like
Home Improvements ratings taking a dip when Jonathan Taylor Thomas
left the show to do Lion King and Tom and
Huck Teens girls were less into Mark Taylor and his
goth vibes. No one could fill the JTT hole. And

(46:55):
if the Colts aren't cheating or creating holes for Jonathan Taylor,
or if he's slowing down, Daniel Jones is going to
have more of an issue hucking it. So Sunday big
game against the Houston Texans, Davis Mills did his thing. CJ.
Stroud could be back under center. And that Colt schedule,

(47:16):
like you said, it's kind of brutial, brutal their final
six games, like it's much tougher than the Texans for
the Jaguars schedule. So you better win these division games
against them because I don't know what's happening outside of it,
but the Colts look like a horseshoe in to win
the division three weeks ago with little competition, and now
they're having to fight for it with the Colt forty

(47:38):
five pulled there? What else?

Speaker 6 (47:41):
Again?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
What do you got next? Mark?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Trap game?

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Tap right?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
The favorite in trouble or facing a trap game? This weekend,
I'm going with the Rams on the road against your
Carolina Panthers there at them.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Now, by the way, you lucky s will be the
late switcheroo. Right before he went off the air last
week on two on two, all Adam was tempted to
take his Carolina Panthers on the road in a big
spot chance to take first place in the NFC South
and they got a victory over the San Francisco forty
nine ers. Instead, at the very last second, right before
though we are Fox Sports, he flipped to the Browns

(48:15):
getting three over the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Who talked me into that, which I'm angry about that.
Who talked me into that? Ken, I don't know what
you're talking about. That was you, It was so I
should blame myself for that one I got. I wanted
to take the Panthers, but Kevin was making too much sense.
Talked you out of it. Damn it, talked you out
of it.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
So the Panthers loss to the forty nine ers on Monday,
despite brock Party's best efforts to try to give that
game away. But that Panthers offense was putrid. Bryce Young
picked off at the one yard line. Rico Dowdle for
some reason, only got six carries in the entire game,
which prompted him, by the way, to send out like
the quizzical face emoji on Twitter with no context whatsoever.
We know that mant after the game, just to cise like, huh, Yeah,

(48:53):
I was wondering that too, Rico shocker fantasy football. This
is all one week, by the way, Yeah, after Young
threw for four hundred yards, so I guess such are
the vagaries of a young NFL quarterback.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So now they return home.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Welcome in the team that most people consider to be
the best and most complete team in the NFL in
the La Rams and La Rams team, by the way,
was being led by MVP favorite Matthew Stafford, who, if
you remember, I brought up like a month ago, how
they held this guy's name is not being placed in
the MVP discussion. You are right, sure enough. Now he's
a front runner. Do you realize, by the way, Matt

(49:25):
Stafford has thrown twenty seven touchdowns since his last interception.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Damn, do you realize how insane that is?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
That's that an all time record that has not been
done since box scores became official in the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Okay, I thought maybe there was a chance Aaron Rodgers
did it in his heyday with the Packers. Well, thank you,
he had some seasons where he had like forty touchdowns
to three picks.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
No, even Aaron rodd the Great Aaron Rodgers, has never
been on a run that Matthew Stafford is on right now. Now,
with that being said, I do think the Rams need
to watch out a little bit here. The Panthers, like
most teams, do play better at home than on the road,
Although they did lose that home to the Saints weeks
back now, so they just have just as many home
wins as road wins as they do now. But that

(50:05):
fan base given a lot of life in juice right now.
Looking at him right now, he's wearing an LA Clipper sweatshirt,
but it's Carolina Panther blue. So I think it's the
best of both worlds going on right now.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
So that fan base.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, I'll talk about the happits of the Clippers on Friday.
But the Panthers have gone from a laughing stock to
a team that you expect to be competitive actually more
weeks than not. Will they be competitive against the Rams?
Conventional wisdom would tell you probably not. But conventional wisdom
would also say you the Dolphins had no business running
the Bills off the field a couple of weeks ago.
This is the NFL. The unexpected happens all the time.

(50:39):
I can easily see the Rams coming in as a
ten and a half point favorite, maybe a little overcompetent,
over confident, I should say ten am kick for their
West Coast bodies going to the East Coast, which.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Can be a factor sometimes.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
So seems like a prime situation to me where the
Rams will have their hands full against the squad that's
fighting for the playoff lives. The Carolina Panthers are easily
see the Panthers covering the spread.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
In this one. I can see it happening. All right,
that's your trap game, tap, yep, it is for me too,
but kind of for a different reason. All right, you're right.
The Rams maybe the number one seed, and they're favored
by almost eleven points in this ballgame, are going out
on the road. But it's also the holidays, and the

(51:21):
Carolina Panthers are in the Christmas spirit, so they're no
longer a football team. They are now a ballet production
and currently performing a Christmas classic, The Nutcracker, starring the
rat King himself, trayvon Merrig, who cracked Jawan Jennings in
the nuts. Last week, the.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Former Raiders trave on Eric.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
By the way, Yeah, where do you think you learned it? Exactly? Ironically,
a guy who plays safety did the least safe thing ever.
I guess. The Panthers decided, since they can't play like men,
no one else should be able to play as men
either sound like a man when they Their new team

(52:02):
name is the Carolina Scrutum Smashers or the Johnny Cages
that that was his go to move.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yes against you would hit the splits and then get
you right in the the family Jewels.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Now, look, if Juwan Jennings had an advantage of four
arms and hands to catch the football, it would make
more sense that you might go Nutcracker with it. But
the Rams they're so tough the Panthers might have to
resort to it, hence the trap game tap. But seriously,
what tryvon Marrek did? I mean? I haven't been this

(52:34):
embarrassed by the Panthers as a fan since at least
two weeks ago when the Saints. That was also a
punch of the night I was. I've had so many
as a Panthers fan. They've basically given me a vasectomy,
Like I now wear a cup just watching Carolina Panthers
football games and losing to the forty nine ers in
primetime the way they did. Like they're just gonna get

(52:58):
banned from Monday Night Football and so net football games.
They're gonna be on illegal streams that the FBI will
be monitoring, because if you're going to watch the Panthers
play football, who knows what kind of psychopath you could be.
That's not a red flag, it's a white flag, and
you are surrendering your sanity. I'm gonna make a custom
Panthers jersey that's also a straight jacket like. But yeah,

(53:22):
Trayvon Merhrig, former raider, that's where he learned it from
his go to move.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
It ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Testicular torsion was his next play.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I will say you probably if you're gonna do that,
which I would never endorse, by the way, just to
say that on a quick note, probably gotta be a
little more savvy about it.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
It literally just walk up.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
It just just a straight fist right to the nuts
on camera where everybody can see it.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Yeah, you can't do it on Monday night football, right,
It's like those cameras everywhere. Man come on at least
make us have to find it on like the early
red zone slate or if it's on the bottom of
dog pile.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I've heard stories of things that happen on those dogs
files which are just awful and should never be spoken. Ye,
that's what things like that happen. Well, it obviously just
didn't care at that point.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Rams better watch themselves because that's how the Panthers roll. Now,
maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
The Panthers is run out of the tunnel and just
go straight cup check to the entire Rams roster. That's
how they start the game. You know what do we
got coming up next here?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Beer goggles Kate.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
That's right, ugly matchup that might be a little bit entertaining.
You know what, should we take a break here? I
think we would probably take a break here and get
to get to Carry roads. Yeah, because I don't leave
it's late. I don't keep Carry up too late.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Now, you're right, So he just texted us. He never
did that too teams. He was not a dirty defender
like the Carolina Panthers. Okay, cool, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Carry has been nice enough to stay up late and
join us on the show to talk to some NFL
with us, so I don't want keep him waiting any longer.
We'll get back to beer goggles game and the remainder
of the NFL six pack coming up a little bit.
But coming up next on the other side here on
fn A on FSR, it'll be the great Carry Rhoads,
eight year NFL veteran for the Jets and Cardinals, and
of course coworker of RS here at FSR doing End
Zone Radio of Dan Bayer. This is Fna on FSR,

(55:02):
Fox Football Saturday. It is the greatest moment and you're
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Speaker 2 (55:35):
It is Kevin Figures and Adam alson with you Fox
Football Saturday. F and A on FSR. Thank you guys
for joining us as you do each and every week.
We will dive back into the NFL stix back here
in just a couple of minutes. But as of right now,
you're hearing the adulcet tones of Kerry Rhoades, one of
our coworkers here at Fox Sports Radio. He joins us

(55:56):
now to talk some NFL. Let's get to it. Adam
Alan dranking.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Dude, thank you, Gutty.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Well. Our next guest started out as a QB in
college before moving to safety so he could help be
the QB of the secondary. But he was second to
none when he was named an All Pro in two
thousand and six while playing for the Jets, and after
eight years in the league, left the game. But this
star continues to shine off the field, whether he's acting, singing,
or broadcasting here on Fox Sports Radio. No matter what

(56:23):
you're into, this artist has you covered. As all roads
lead to carry roads. Follow him at Carrie twenty five
Roads and check out his new single Hush on all
music platforms. Carrie, thanks for doing this here on F
and A on FSR.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Hey, man, if you guys going to introduce me that way,
I'll come on all the time. But just so you know,
keep that keep that same energy. So I appreciate it. Man.
Got how would you guys to thank giving?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
It was good you and yours all right?

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Oh yes, I like it mellow and chill and you know,
just a handful of people. So that's kind of what
happened yesterday to me. But always grateful, always grateful.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, Carrie, you know, playing for the Jets and playing
for the Ardinal's did you ever actually have to play
on Thanksgiving weekend?

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Have? So?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
What was that experience?

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Like? Yeah, I was telling the friend about it yesterday.
Just you know, like everybody's watching the games and having
a really good time as fans as observers, but you know,
the players are out there playing on this weird random Thursday.
Obviously it's not a random Thursday when it comes to
the world, but for us, we may have already played
a game on Sunday, So coming on the short week

(57:24):
and plan on Thursday is interesting. It's fun, but it's
also it's a lot you know what I mean. You
have a family coming in town. A lot of times
the families are celebrating with you on Thanksgiving after the
game or before the game, and you have to, you know,
kind of maintain some level of focus to play that game.
So it's an honor always, obviously, but it's also it

(57:45):
comes with its own set of circumstances as well.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
It proved to be a lot for the Chiefs and
the Ravens, who both took losses. They're six and six, Carrie,
who do you think is in more danger of missing
the playoffs between those two ball clubs?

Speaker 6 (57:59):
Well, I think that the obvious choice is Kansas City
just because of their division. They're so far behind in
the division, so they really don't have a chance to
win the division to get in by you know, winning it,
So then you gotta, you know, hope that some other
teams in front of you lose and you can get
into wild card. Where the Ravens, I mean, they're still

(58:19):
in the thicket winning the division, and I think, you know,
being in the AFC North, A lot of us thought
that that was a stronger division, and it has been historically,
but this year is just not the same. So whoever,
you know, the Ravens still have a chance to win
that division, so they aren't in dire needs. But the Chiefs, yeah,
they're in trouble.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Speaking of the AFC North, obviously, the Baltimore Ravens losing
that matchup on Thursday night against Joe Burrow, who have
been out for the last couple of months. There was
a lot of debate as to whether or not he
should even return this season. Considering that the Bengals, although
not mathematically eliminated from the postseason, for all it tents
and purposes, we know they're not going to the playoffs,
just as you see Carrie. Obviously, you can say it
was the right decision because he looked great and they

(59:00):
won the game, but knowing that he's had an extensive
injury history and the offensive line, although playing better, is
certainly not dominant by any stretch, do you think it's
the right decision for Cincinnati to put him back out
there and what is essentially a lost season at this point.

Speaker 6 (59:13):
Yeah, I didn't think it was the right decision, But
then after I heard you know, Joe Burrows talk about
it and just his understanding of the situation, I mean,
I completely agree with him wanting to play.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Now.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
As far as an organization and putting your quarterback out
there that's been injured with no chance to make the playoffs,
you know, that didn't look like the right decision, man.
But I was really encouraged, and I mean I was
really was. It was refreshing to hear a superstar player want,
you know, explain it right, break it down, like I
make a lot of money to play a kid's game,

(59:45):
and so to go out there and you know, go
out there and do what he loves and do what
he wants to do, and the organization be behind it,
then you can't fault him. I mean it was, like
I said, it was refreshing to hear him say that.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Carrie Rhodes is our guest here on f and AL
Fox Sports Radio, And the other game we saw the
Dallas Cowboys defense. You know, there's certainly a little bit
better than you're a defensive guy, Like, are they adequate
enough to now really make a run towards the playoffs?

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Absolutely? Absolutely, I mean it's shocking. I think I actually
put out a tweet yesterday I was saying this iteration
of the Cowboys are actually fun, you know what I mean,
Like it's it's just it's not just noise. It's not
just a mirrorous team. No, it's like watch them and
you're kind of rooting for them. You're for Dak. I mean,
he's received so much backglass throughout the years, even when

(01:00:33):
he's played well, you know, he's had some failures in
the playoffs, which a lot of quarterbacks and a lot
of teams do. But right now, man, he's playing the
basketball i've ever seen them play. And my former friend
and you know, he was offensive coordinator with us with
the Jets buying Schottenheimer. A lot of people gave him
flack for getting that job in Dallas, right, and he

(01:00:53):
has those guys playing well, they're playing together. Offense looks
unstoppable and refreshing, and in that defense, all of a sudden,
now they are competent, right, and so now the same
as a chance to you know, if they can be
the Lions next Thursday. I think, you know, I think
they can run the table.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
You're a defensive back for a long period of time,
played for some really good defenses out there with the Jets.
When you have CD Lamb and George Pickens lining up
across from you, I know you were a safety out
of corner.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
But just talk about how difficult it is to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Game plan when you have two legit number one type
receivers that you have to face off against. Is just
what does a game plan situation even look like when
it comes to that, because you don't want to obviously
you give away one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
The other is going to light you up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
So how do you even game plan when you have
two dominant receivers like that lining up against you?

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
Well, you can game plan. And when you have myself
and dre if you want to cut that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Way, that's true point. I'm straight that one All Pro
and one Hall of Famer.

Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
I'll take it, Yeah, exactly exactly. We get. We could
game plan, but I think the specific way to do
that is, I mean, they're both number one, and they're
both great and my if I would game planning, then
I would put the rail on Pickings, and I'm allowing
that to happen. And then you'll put me on the
other side with Ceedee Lamb And our other coin at
the time was Widow Shepherd, who's not a scrub. So

(01:02:08):
you put that guy up on them and get field
school with him and have me over the top and
kind of eliminate that. But again, it's it's it's a
hard thing to do, and most teams don't have other
rel reavers, right, and so when you go into that game,
you have to pick your poison if you want to
for the most part, play a two shell and make
them be patient and make them, you know, kind of

(01:02:30):
dictate them to run the ball, because with seven in
the box, if you're an offense, you use you have
to run the ball to keep the defense on it.
So you would want to make them have to go
the length of the field, make a lot of plays,
have to be really good a lot of the time
where if you play man and man coverage and give
them give them a chance at a one on one ball,
they're going to probably win those matchups. And then you

(01:02:54):
give them the chance to make a big play. So
you just want to make them have to be perfect
and drive the length of the field and hopefully get
some pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Carrie, and speaking to those Jets teams that you were on,
I'm well aware of how your former coach Rex Ryan
feels about shaduor Sanders, But how do you feel about
Shador as a starter now with the Browns. Is he
going to be able to perform against the defense that's
not the Raiders this week?

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
That's a that's a good that's a good point. I
think it's wait and see. I think a lot of
people want to jump in front of the sedure train
or jump on the on the on the on the
on the back and pull them back and humble them.
But I think we just got to wait and see,
and if we're Shador, I just want him to put
his head down and not talk and just go out
and play football and you know, prove his worth right now.

(01:03:40):
You know, it may not have been the ideal situation
in his mind to not be the guy early on,
but he's kind of where that storm and now he
has a chance. That's the NFL, and when you get
your chans, put your head down and work, because the
highs are never as high as you think they are
and the lows are never that low. So I think
if you can keep that level head and and just

(01:04:00):
really like put all your focus on the work, there
is a chance. I mean, obviously he has talent. We
saw him play. He can throw the ball. He even
against the Raiders, which isn't a really good team at
the moment. Moment, obviously you could see the control and
see the understanding of the offense and how to operate
the quarterback and shore doing so we'll see. I mean,

(01:04:20):
I think it's only time with Tail, but as the
moment goes right now, he definitely should have been the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Kerry Rose joining us here FNA on FSR, Fox Football Saturday.
Any concerns carry about Daniel Jones and Indianapolis Colts offense,
They've taken a little bit of a step back these
last couple of weeks. Teams have really honed down on
slowing down Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones so far has
not been able to make teams play. Now they have
a huge game against Houston, who's kind of nipping at
their heels a little bit in the AFC South. Do

(01:04:48):
you have any concerns about the culture or do you
still feel confident they'll find a way to pull out
this division to be a force in the AFC playoffs?

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Uh, that's a layer one. Are they going to be
a fourth in the playoffs? I don't. I'm not sure
about that. As far as them, you know, making the
playoffs and kind of holding off Houston, I think they can.
Houston's picking up steam and I know Houston has a
lot to play for the head coach, to Migo Ryans,
we're high school teammates, so I know him very well
and I know he's going to have those guys motivated

(01:05:16):
to play, and he has some personal things that are
going on as far as we had a high school
teamate of ours that went pro as well throl Cochran
passed away, and so I know they're motivated, and I
know he's motivated to find some success and get this
thing going. And that defense they have there is it's
top notch. And if they can start to protect the

(01:05:36):
quarterback and score some more points, they're going to be dangerous.
So am I worried about the Colts. I'm worried about
the Coats and Daniel Jones, not just because of the injury,
but he just looked at the last game against Kansas City.
I mean, their last four possessions they went through and
out and if they just on one of those drives,
muster up something and cost some points or even just
waste some time off the clock, you know, Kansas City

(01:05:58):
would have lost that one as well. So I do
have concerns about the Coats, and it's not just because
of the injuries, but I think the Textans are starting
to pick up some momentum as well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
How about the the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Obviously, when you have a great quarterback like Josh Allen,
you always have a chance. But they've obviously been up
and down a lot this season, and I've not played
extremely well of late.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Do you think that they.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Have a chance to still be a contender in the
AFC or do they have too many flaws, especially on
the defensive side, to be a team that you actually
fear when it matters most.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
They have so many flaws man, And I think this
is the tail with every team, to be honest, But
with them, they don't have a true outside guy at
all in any of their receivers. They don't have any
they don't have any big play guide on the offensive
besides Cook and Allen, right, And so if you're able
to contain them, and again we talked about it earlier, like, yes,

(01:06:49):
they've been methodical and they've been able to run the
ball and put up points at certain points in time,
but I don't think you feared that when it comes,
you know, when it comes to being a chance, like
you have to have guys that can can make plays
on the outside, and they don't have it. The Chiefs
don't have it. Like the common thing with those teams
that they're kind of just they're up and down, right,

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because they're going to be games where they can be
perfect and drop the ball down the field, but then
be games where you can't. And so if you don't
have that guy that can win on the outside, you're
in trouble. But then defensively, their secondary is terrible. I
know their game plan and you know their defense. They
do make plays and they disguise and their scheme as well.

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But when you're put against other really great players on
the outside that can make plays, you can beat both
of those teams. You can beat the Bills for sure.
And so yeah, I'm not I don't think they're a factory,
which is weird to say, right. I think all the
teams come into the year that we thought were the
top dogs aren't the top dogs anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Check out Carrie Roads on Fox Sports Radio on end
Zone Radio with Zan Byer on Sundays. Carrie, I do
want to ask you about it. I mentioned it in
your intro, but you got a new single out, Hush,
It's on all music platforms. Just what is it like
for you transitioning into the music field and who are
some of your influences like getting into this, like how

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does this work? Now? Off the field for some time
and you're becoming a singer like this man.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Music was always in my DNA. My cousin is Aretha Franklin, right,
So I mean I've had that, Oh my god, Yeah,
I've had those influences as I was younger. But then
my dad was my dad was in a band, he
played music all the time, and so for me, I
mean I was in the choir as a kid, and

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I played instrument as a kid, and then you know,
you get the football and that kind of consumed it
and you focus on the thing that's paying the bills.
But I knew once I got done, I would get
back into it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:49):
And just being able to have like this artistic expression
that's the most purest form of it for me, and
I think that is music and so being able to
connect with people and share that, guest.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
And it's it's been everything, man, And with Hush, it's
just kind of like a culmination of all of that, right,
like my my years as a player, the chaos that
came around that, the chaos of leaving leaving football, and
you know, walking this walking this earth as a normal
pedestrian again and having to figure out life after that.

(01:09:21):
Like all of those things are the influences behind my
music and so being able to put it out and
people actually receive it in a way. Man, it's been
it's been everything for me. So yeah, Hush is out,
and like you said, the streaming on everything, and I'm
really really excited for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Far from normal. Eight times are eight seasons, I should say,
in the NFL, made an All Pro team, played for
the New York Jets and the Cardinals, and obviously a
great broadcast to here a Fox Sports Radio, a great
colleague of ours, and obviously, as we mentioned, great burgeining
music career as well, the great Kerry Roads joining us
here on that fan on FSR carry This was fun. Man,
much appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
Man, absolutely, man, thank you guys so much.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Here's the track Hush, you're hearing it right now now?
Was he talking to Ocho Cinco and receivers that he
would lock up those loud mouth receivers back in the
mid two thousand. It's like hush is he and Darrell
Reebas It wasn't just Darrell Reebis Island by the way, Okay,
don't forget about Kerry Rows and Roads. Yeah, that's the

(01:10:20):
that's the law office. At least they locked you up.
They did. That was great. Some great defenses are good.
Really good. Track's good too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
I like this and check him out by the week
and check him out. He has his own YouTube page
too as well. He has a couple of music videos.
Carrie's been pumping out some songs see these last couple
of years. All Right, you're a big fan of R
and B.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Like I am. You like it? So Brian mcnight influenced
here sounds like it a little bit. That's a compliment.
It is greatly. You know. He had Kobe in a
video once rapping. Probably a bit of a low light.
But yeah, sorry, oh come on, what all right it was?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I'm just saying it's like he all love of respect
to the to the Mamba, but I mean, maybe just
to basketball and leave the rap into the rappers, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
Everybody, see, everybody can't transcend.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Carrie Rose can transcend being an excellent football player to
be an excellent actor, to be an excellent singer, to
being an excellent Fox Sports radio host. Well, it turns
out it could be most multifaceted.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
When you're Aretha Franklin's cousin.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
No pressure, by the way, too, it's like you're Aretha
Franklin's cousin. If you get into music, you better be good.
Tarnish the family name.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
You cannot. You can't do that. So r E sp
e c T. All right, Thanks again to Carrie Rose
for being on. Coming up next, back to the NFL
six pack. We got our beer goggles game. He's Kevin
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Speaker 3 (01:12:11):
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Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
Beer goggles Kate?

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
All Right, So when I first saw the Sunday night
football game between the Broncos and Commanders.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
Pretty excited.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Huh No, I was disappointed. Actually, I thought it was
time for that flex for a game that was better
any game, you know, Saints Dolphins or something anything with this.
But then I put my beer goggles on and I
realized the infinite wisdom of NBC and what they're doing here.
You see the Broncos. Well, they may have won eight
in a row, the hottest team in the league.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
They also scraped by in one score games against the Titans,
the Jets, the Giants, the Raiders. All those teams have
less wins than the three and eight Commanders who they're playing,
not combined. Okay, you might have thought that for a second,
but no, those teams aren't that bad. But I know,

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like this is this is a game that has some potential. Okay,
if the two and nine Raiders or the one in
ten Titans can give the Broncos a game, why can't
the three win? Commanders?

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
And by the way, that Raiders Broncos game on that
Thursday night was one of the worst football games I've
seen in a couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
From both teams. And you watch a lot of Raiders
do so that says a lot. The Raiders suck. Hey,
the Commanders they got you know, Marcus Mariotas starting again.
He's a he's he's he's a quarterback. Yeah, he's a
National Football League quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
I was about to be very disrespectful. I was gonna
say he's a warm body, he's more than that. I
won't be that disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Uh, they're at least at home in DC. Okay, they
have that going for them. Great things get screwy in
that city with bills that get passed. Why can't foot
to get passed? Also, baffle us, like, is the gap
between bo Knicks and Marcus Mariota that wide this season?
This season? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Still?

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Yes? Okay, yes it is. What's the Broncos record? If
Mariota is the quarterback, he can't throw bat incompletions and
hand the ball off like bow Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I mean, there are some throws that bon Nicks has made,
especially in big situations, where he looks pretty bona fide.
These are throws that Marcus Mariota wish he could have made.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Both former Ducks, by the way, Yes, they're not that
different there. Okay, we have that going for them.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
You know what, only one of them won a Heisman Trophy.
That's right, who was that? Marcus? I was so long
ago though, and such a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
The Ducks are at Washington this week, a big games
kind of a connection there. Yeah, both guys probably lost
to Washington on the road, since the Ducks typically do
this is this could be interesting. We'll get to more
on that on our college football forecast. But yeah, I
don't know. Maybe I'm smoking too much of that or
sticky iky icky here. But with my beer goggles on,

(01:15:04):
I see the makings of a decent Sunday night football game. Okay,
I don't know, hey, but you know what you never know. Well,
we'll put your beer goggles on, then you'll see it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Okay, I've put my beer goggles on for this one.
This is the Jets facing the Falcons, battle between two
teams going absolutely nowhere. How about two and nine verses
four and seven. So last week I said the Browns
and the Raiders will be looking like a train wreck,
two bad football teams. They both look like the Keystone
cops out there running into each other, totally dishevel exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Wow, Mark was quick with that out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
That was only the case for one of the teams,
and that was the Raiders. It was so bad that
Chip Kelly ended up being the fall guy and lost
his job the Raiders. As I look at the Sunday's
game between the Jets and the Falcons, thank you, Kawhi.
Very laughable. That effort by the Clippers tonight too. By
the way, when I talk about that Adam.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Well Kawhi at thirty nine. He laughed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
You could argue that this will be a train wreck
of a G two between the Jets and the Falcons,
but there are some redeeming qualities in this matchup that
might make you want to turn your attention to it. Dude,
tell for at least a couple of minutes. All right,
how about this. Anytime you have a chance to watch
bjar Robinson, you should.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
He's great.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
This kid's one of the more dynamic players I've seen
in the NFL in a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Deserves better, he really does. He had you think in
the Falcons might make the playoffs. He did well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
He along with Drake London, who's also hurt, by the way,
but also having a great year when Drake is actually healthy.
So they've been hit pretty hard when it comes to
entries to keep players. Granted, how much has it really mattered,
because even when those guys were healthy, it's not like
they were winning a lot of games. By the way,
can we not forget about Kirk Cousins. He thrives in
games like this. I'm sorry, what one pm Eastern Sunday

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afternoon with like two percent of the nation watching he
gets lost in the shuffle, he might as well be
paid Manning. He put up great numbers in situations like this.
Now if he was a quarterback with the Commanders still
playing on Monday Night against the Broncos, Oh, he's easily
throwing four pick sixes in that game. But a game
like this, this is prime Kirk Cousins. It's just time
for him to shine right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
He's gonna be eiced out with the chain after.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Yes, terrible game in a standard regular season window against
a bad team. Kirk Cousins can light it up right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Were he and Ryan Fitzpatrick the same guy? Basically they
were pretty good until the expectations came. Ryan Fitzpatcher got
that contract, he did, yeah, and he crumbled under those expectations.
He did same with Kirk Cousins. Also had a bad injury,
but before that could never win in prime time?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Right, Yeah, guys, we can throw Andy Dalton into that,
so that mix to it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
If that means he'll be a great analyst, because Ryan
Fitzpatrick's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
No, I could see it. Kirk Cousins weltpooking guy. It
would not surprise me at all if you wanted to
have a career in broadcast.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
You have the compliment, Kirk, it is absolutely for you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
By the way, for the Jets, you know, say what
you want about the quarterback carousel, trading away all the
good defensive players and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah, we'll say what we want, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I will say they haven't quoit on Aaron Glynn because
a lot of their games have been very close. Five
of their nine losses have come by single digits. So
a bounce here, a bounce there, they're five and six.
Outlook is complode completely and totally different. So they compete,
they play hard. They just have a lot of offensive imitations,
namely anybody not named Breese Hall. Basically that is their

(01:18:09):
offensive limitation. He's literally the only person doing anything for them.
Garrett Wilson's good when he's healthy, which he's not. And
even when he was playing, who was throwing on the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Someone to trade, Someone should have traded for him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
For Gary Wilson, I don't think he was necessarily on
the market, to be honest with you. Breese Hall was,
and apparently a deal was in place or a deal
was offered to the Jets and they rejected it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
So Garrett Wilson wishes somebody trade for Yeah, I'm sure
he does. I do want he with you, saus. I
would like Aaron Glenn to get another year. He will.
It's not fair.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
The team hasn't quit on him. Not fair like the
way that the team has played, the way they've competed.
They just have a lot of limitations to just start.
They were either injured or they're just not good in
certain situations. Like Aaron Glenn, and he talks about it
this week. You know, he was on the staff of
the Detroit Lions. He was a defensive coordinator in Dan
Campbell's first year. They were three to thirteen his first year.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Yeah, give him time, just like Dan Campbell and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Turn things around. So I think they're going to give
him a little bit of time. But if you look
at on the surface, this game looks like a matchup
between two teams going absolutely nowhere, playing for nothing. By
the way, if you're the Falcons, you are literally playing
for nothing because even if you lose and get a
high draft pick, it's going to the Rams because you're
traded it away. Yeah, for James Peers, I'm not looking
on the surface. I'm looking deeper, and I still don't
see anything here is by the way, the numbers don't

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show it. He's actually playing pretty decently this year. It's
the gauge instantly is going to be like, you gave
up a first round pick. The Rams are going to
have a top fifteen pick, and you have this guy
who's not producing that much.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
He's twenty two, he's a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
He might end up being a catalyst for a young defense,
which is averages ever starters age is like twenty five
years old.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
On that defense, there's a lot of young guys. I
got the perfect NBA com for that, Okay, Joe Dumars
with two phones trading back in to get a first
round pick from Atlanta, I think, and they got Derreck Queen. Okay,
Derek Queen's actually been pretty good for them. Yeah, but
they still are going to end up in the lottery
this year, the Pelicans, and I think it's Atlanta who

(01:19:55):
has that picks. Whoever has it's going to get like
a top five pick out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Sometimes it just takes a while for the these guys
to develop. But like that at the very beginning, it
just comes off as a bit of a tough matchup. Well,
so we'll see what ends up happening with Atlanta ultimately
for that. But I do think this is gonna end
up being a very competitive game between two teams again
who are going absolutely nowhere. So if there's a commercial
break and you got a second to sit there and
don't want to sit there and watch another grand commercial
about insurance or shampoo or whatever the hell he's doing,

(01:20:19):
I'll flip over and watch this game for a couple
two or three minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
All right, speaking of we got a commercial break. But
after that our Ode Troy Epic Fail game or under
the Microscope game, we have our redemption round. We have
so many great things to show you here in our
last three categories in the NFL six pack. You're listening
to FNA on FSR.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
We still have our college football forecast coming out plenty
to get to a lot happened on Friday. Yeah, it
could affect the standings on the college football ranking most
absolutely well just took out at A and M.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Yeah, and people are even whispering, could Texas be the
first three loss team to make it into the playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I know a guy who brought this up a month ago.
At least you're not alone. But I don't agree with
that guy anymore. Oh yeah, I'm gonna argue.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
That's probably not gonna happen, to be honest with you,
but it's not going to be talked about for sure
amongst us and amongst the committee.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
I do believe when all is said.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
And done, coming up after championship weekend next weekend. So
we got a lot to get into, and of course
it's Robert we Weeke into the college football ranks as well,
between Michigan and Ohio State, big stakes there as far
as the Big Ten championship game and the potential playoff
berth on the line there for Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Uh two on two off at the back end of
the hour. But we got to get back into our
NFL six pack starting with our old Troy epic fail game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Oh my god, Oh I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Oh my god. All right, el Troy epic fail potential
matchup this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
In Week thirteen, I'm gonna go to the Vikings, who
could absolutely get run off the field in Seattle. Now,
usually I reserve my epic failed category for a favorite
who I think might actually get embarrassed that week. Yeah,
hence my Pittsburgh Steelers picking against Chicago last Sunday That
aged well, I could pull the Steve Hartman on you
on you, Adam by the way, and say that to it.
My prediction was right, but the players didn't do their

(01:22:39):
jobs properly. Look, I'll say this, blow it up right now,
Damn right, Steve Listen Steelers health the Bears under their
season average in total yards and under their season average
in rushing yards. We saw what they did against the
Eagles on Friday. They also forced two turnovers, one of
which was a terrible Caleb Williams fumble in the end
zone that was recovered for a score.

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Didn't somebody say that might happen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Last week, Hey Caleb Williams, that the regret progression with
a young player is never linear, and he might take
a half step back against a good defense that forces turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Sam, who would have said such a thing. Prediction was
almost right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
My bad for thinking the Steeler offense could mester a
half decent effort against a Bearess team with one of
the worst scoring defenses in the league. Albeit looked good
against the Eagles, but again, the Eagles office hadn't done
squad in two weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Yeah, anyway back to this week.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
So, as I mentioned, usually reserve this category for a
favorite that I think is gonna get embarrassed. I think
I'm actually gonna go with an underdog and what is
the de facto revenge game here for Sam Darnold Seahawks
eleven and a half point favorite over the Vikings, and honestly,
they might have that spread covered by halfway through the
first quarter. This might look like Notre Dame Syracuse last week,
where they scored like forty five points in the first
two minutes or whatever it was. I'm only exaggerating slightly

(01:23:50):
at him. I think it was thirty five to nothing
with like seven minutes left in the first quarter last week.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Think of the poor Syracuse broadcasters that had to endure that,
Like our friend Noe Eagle, Yeah, yeah, pretty rough.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
They didn't put him on the call for that, right, thankfully, No,
that would have been wrong, absolutely not thankfully for him.
There were some, although not many, voices out there who
said the Vikings were making a mistake by getting rid
of Sam Darnold. I know things ended poorly his last
handful of starts score, of course against the Rams. Of course,
that playoff game was very forgettable, but that probably should

(01:24:21):
not have put a damper on how well he played
for fourteen weeks last year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Come on, he's not defined by it one week or
one playoff game. I said last week, the guy went
eight years between playing meaningful games. Give him a chance.
He needs some more high stakes games under his belt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Well, that's a trap you fall into when you draft
a quarterback in the first round and for whatever reason,
you feel the needs to have to rush him into
the lineup, even if.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
They aren't ready.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
So say what you want about j McCarthy leading that
Week one comeback against the Bears. It was smoking mirrors,
it was Tim Tebow's stuff. It was not sustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
They gave him Player of the Weeks ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
I will say, to JJ's credit, he's not been fully
healthy since like Week three, and he's essentially a brain.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Well, he's also a rookie. He didn't play last year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
He's been last year rehabbing. You're not even taking physical reps,
just mental reps. There's only so much you can do
when you're in a place in a situation like that.
It's not even his fault, it's the organization's fault for
doing that. What would have been the harm of letting
him sit for one more year? Jordan Love sat for
two years in Green Bay behind Aaron Rodgers. Don't this
idea that just because the contracts are not guaranteed and

(01:25:27):
you can easily get out of him, if a guy
is not playing that well anymore, you can quarterbacks and
rookies can jump on the scene from year one and
play well. Everybody's not like that. Some guys take a
little bit of time. There's nothing wrong with being patient.
Is sitting a guy for a year or two if
he's not ready.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Maybe if Sam Darnold got to marinate as a backup
for a couple of years, you would have got this
version of him much earlier. You never know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
If Philip Rivers doesn't sit for a year behind Drew Brees,
maybe he's shell shocked to not the same player now.
Maybe he comes in as a rookie and lights it
up from day one, like Matt Ryan, like everybody's path
is different. Idea that you took a quarterback high in
the first round, therefore he has to play right or way.
I've just never subscribed to that theory. It just doesn't
make sense to me. If he's good enough and you say, hey,
we can try to build a winning franchise around this

(01:26:11):
guy before his big extension kicks in, then all power
to you. But most of the time that's not the
case with these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
The problem is when you start a rookie, it can
often buy your head, coach, your GM and just your
organization as a whole some time. Right, Hey, you gotta
learn with us, you gotta grow with us here. Don't
judge too early when really he may just never be
that good. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Well, of course, but this is the bet the Vikings
have made, so now they have to lye in it
like it's a bet of roaches or snakes. You find
on the show Fear Factor, which I found out, by
the way, is back Johnny Knoxville, which I mean, who's
more perfect of a host considering the high jinks that
he got into with his old show?

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
So it makes all the sense more Hyne Knoxville, and
this is fear factor.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
So, by the way, last week big for Sam Darnold,
and that I know it was just the Titans. But
you play poorly against the Rams, you recover the very
next weekend you play well. Usually a player like this
who will struggled through their career. It's snowball. Last year,
towards the end of the regular season, Adam Wore his
last couple of starts were not very good, so I
thought it was big for him to perform as well
as he played at the end of last year. So

(01:27:15):
I expect a lot more expletives and broken canes from
Vikings fans this weekend, except it will be all out
of their system by halftime because this game will be
over by then.

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
It's gonna say pairing your old Troy with a Vikings game,
when that is the original sound that we have for
this segment, an angry Vikings fan. After that Blair Walshmiths
field goal, Okay, my old Troy, epic failed potential game.
It goes to Schadure, Sanders, haters and heathens. You do

(01:27:43):
not want to be the first real team to lose
two Shadour Sanders no offense to the Raiders, but that
loss was built in and predictable. I did take the
Browns plus three and a half after I convinced you
to well, you know the Raiders better than anyone, dude.
It was free money. But if you're an angry Shadeur
Sanders hater and thought Shadoor Sanders was flying high after

(01:28:06):
that win, wait till he beats a real team. Imagine
imagine being a Shadeur Sanders hater and an atheist. With
how much he brings up God after a win, that
must be painful. He mentioned God four times during his
first answer on the field post game. He credited God
for his performance. Like his father used to, I don't

(01:28:26):
even need to go to church on Sunday. Shador Sanders
is taking me there and he's going to cook all
you non believers with this God squad swag. If he
beats the forty nine ers on Sunday, the Holy Spirit's
gonna be up your ass. It helps him beat the Niners,
that's what That's what it does for him, Like you
will need prayer if Shaduur actually throws a forward pass

(01:28:47):
for a touchdown this time and not a little dump
off screen pass where he doesn't even have to do
any of the work like he did against the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
That Isaiah bonthrow was pretty impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Yeah it was. It was nice here and he rolled out. Yeah,
but you should do her, haters. God is carrying him
forward from what I heard postgame. At least that wasn't
his foot on the gas pedal leading to those two
speeding tickets in a month. That was God pushing him forward,
getting him to his eventual destiny faster.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
That was God.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
That can cuss Dylan Gabriel through divine tackle vention because
that was Ray Lewis's former Ravens team and he's got
God on his side. I don't know. I'm just saying
I'm poking some fun.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
It should do her a little bit, I'm faith should
do gets sacked eight times and they lose by thirty?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Right, where'd the Lord go? You gotta keep it consistent.
Did he forsake him at that point?

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:29:38):
Yeah? Why have you forsaken me? Lord? So keep it consistent.
But like his father, like the son and the Holy
Spirit here that he has in him to bring up
God first. I do like it, but just don't be
inconsistent when things aren't going well because it's weird to me.

(01:29:59):
There's so many people. It's like a cult following with Shador.
He hasn't done much yet.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Oh it's on both sides, Adam, he hasn't done much yet, right,
or you know people, I saw all of the timeline
last week after he beat the Raiders, like, oh, he's stunning,
like his daddy. I told y'all all these Colorado Johnny
completely people over the last three years, who, by the way,
have been real quiet this year talking about Colorado football.

Speaker 6 (01:30:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Anyway, I did bring up when we were making fun
of Shador when he went mime and wouldn't talk yes,
And I was like, hey, if Colorado is going to
be a bottom three team in the Big twelve this year,
don't say anything. Yeah, right, I think they are. Oh yeah,
I didn't see that coming. It has not been a
great year. Look, the same stuff happened with Tim Tebow. Yeah,
like people that are gonna love and hate him. It's

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the same thing with Shador Sanders. But it would be
a pretty incredible story if he's the first Browns quarterback
since they came back in ninety nine to actually stick.
Because therefore we find out that God actually hasn't abandoned
Browns fans. I felt like he has over the last
twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
I'm riting, yeah, you know, and so am I. When
it comes to the next category.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Mark under the microscope.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Yeah, the player. Everyone should watch closely this weekend. I'm
gonna pairt a lot of what you said about Shador Sanders.
He had a lot of haters, a lot of people
who falling all over him, and I think the most
practical thing that you can do, which I guess for
our industry is probably frowned upon. Just wait and see,
wait and see, you're gonna have a hot take. I
just gotta say, look, pick a sigh. I'm sorry. One

(01:31:29):
and one start and one quarter or whatever it was
against Baltimore is not enough for me to judge what
he is or isn't all Wes said last week going
into that game against the Raiders like, I just want
to see if the guy belongs because he looked like
a competent player that can make plays on the field.
I mentioned the Isaiah Bond throw was a good throw.
You know, he had a terrible interception that he threw
right into the waste basket of the line. But you

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know what, Joe Flacco, it happens to him too sometimes,
you know, happens to the greatest of him, you know,
even though Joe Michael is yeah, the most elite of
the elite in Joe Flacco. So I do want to
put him under the microscope and see how he performs
against his forty nine er team, which yes, it is
a mass unit defensively, but they've played well despite the
fact that they've not had some of their better players.
So now there's a full game of game planning under

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the belt for San Francisco and Robert solid to see
exactly how they can game plan against him. Now, let's
see how he responds when a team has a full
game of film on him. So I plays came under
the microscope to see how he performs against his forty
nine or defense coming up this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
All right, under the microscope for me, I've got Malik
Neighbors and his social media page under the microscope. Oh boy,
in case he tweets out something questioning the coaching staff
like he did last week after they blew another lead,
this time to the line saying quote, sometimes I think
they be making us lose on purpose, because it's no way, bro,
you throw the ball instead of running it to make

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him burn two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal,
then they have to go down and score football common sense.
Am I missing something he deleted?

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
I'm sure he didn't delete that sweet later, right like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Two minutes later. I don't know. Well, what's the point
of deleting?

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
It isn't ever you know that once you posted, it's
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
It's just another way to say I was wrong. I'm
sorry because I deleted.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
Well, at least he didn't follow it up with the
classic I got hacked.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
If you are a player for the New York Giants,
you've already seen your head coach fired. I kind of
think it's a fair question to question the head coach now.
They already got one fired. They've blown five fourth quarter leads,
and not just five games they led in the fourth,
They've blown five consecutive road games with a lead of

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ten points or more. The New York Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Sam Blaine Brian Dave ball for last weekend to do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
They had a first and goal at the Lions four
up three with three minutes left, and instead of just
running the ball every time or kicking a field goal
and fourth down, they went for the kill, trying to
go up two scores. Jamis ended up throwing an incompletion
on the fourth down. The Giants got it back down
three with three minutes left on the clock. They kicked
the field goal, went into overtime. They would eventually win. Oh,

(01:34:01):
Jamiir Gibbs, what a beast. I actually agree with interim
coach Mike Kafka. Here. If you go up six kicking
the field goal there were three minutes left, the Lions
are just gonna march down, score a touchdown. You're gonna
lose by one. You know it's coming. Everyone would predict
that to happen. They already had given up twenty four
points on defense. It wasn't like it was a low

(01:34:23):
scoring game and you could rely on your defense. Malik
Is out with the torn acl. But if I'm a
head coach or the interim coach for the New York
Giants right now, I'm remembering something that happened in the
late nineties. You remember when Warren Sapp delivered a chief
shot on Chad Clifton at the end of the game,

(01:34:44):
severely injured him. It was he broke his hip, put
him in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Change the rule I think of from crackback blocks because
of that play.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yes, I remember that. Mike Sherman, head coach of the Packers,
gotten Warren Sapp's face and Warren Sapps said, Oh, you're
so tough. He put a jersey on. You're so tough,
you put a jersey on. If I'm kafka here, I'm
doing the reverse of that with my league neighbors. Oh,
if you're so smart, you put a headset on. You
call the place you're so smart, she'll put a headset on.

(01:35:12):
That's what I would do. Since he thought that was
so stupid what they did last week. And I actually
agree with the coaching there. It just didn't work out. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Yeah, I'm with you in a situation like that, and
if you can talk analytics and all that, just also
the tempo of the game of how it's going. You're
not gonna stop them at home. In a situation like that,
you have to go up to course.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Yeah, the only way you're gonna win. Yeah. And by
the way, I guess the loss is uh.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
It dampens a little bit the phenomenal display of athleticism
that Jameis Winston showed by catching that pass, getting a
stiff arm, tiptoeing down the sideline and getting to the
end zone. I had to I couldn't believe it. That's
a rewinding and watch it a couple of times. I
love watching Jamis because that was incredible. I even made
fun of him last week saying that he's not feet
a foot fleet of foot and he's you know, a

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concrete back there in the pocket. Don't tell that to
the Detroit defense.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Well, he's had a lot of time to build up
his like strength on the bench for a while. I guess.
So he's back. Yeah, and we're better off for it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
All right, last one? What's our last one?

Speaker 6 (01:36:07):
Here?

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Mark redemption route the teamer player.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Looking to bounce back from last week. I am going
to go with Tampa Bay at home against the Cardinals.
I went with Tampa in my redemption round last week
when they played the Rams in LA and that did
not go well. I can't even play Baker Mayfield for
that by him being injured, because they were getting their
ass kick well before he got injured before the end
of the first half, throwing child Anyways, Yeah, now, Bake
you di practice towards the end of the week. Don't

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know one hundred percent if he's going to be playing
or not. Let's assume that he will. But the Bucks, really,
their issue has been defensively the past month. I don't
know what's happened to them, why they've been so bad.
It's reasonable to question why I think they can actually
bounce back in this game against Arizona. Honestly, if I
just take the numbers and matchups and the like out
of the equation, I'm picking them because they need to.

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They dodged a bullet with the Panthers losing to the
forty nine ers on Monday night, But it goes without
saying that they have to handle their own business if
they have hopes of holding long to this division. The
Bucks have lost four of their last five games, Adam,
and really weren't competitive in any of them.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
And they got two more against my Panthers. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
That Patriots game not as close as the final score
would indicate. So now they have three straight home games
against three teams that are going nowhere Cardinals, Saints, Falcons,
Bucky every coming back into the lineup, So they do
have some things working into their favor. Even if Bacon
Mayfield doesn't play and it is teddy Bridge rider out
there this week, I think they should and honestly hopefully
for them, for their sake, will be able to get

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beat the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Teddy Bridge over trouble Waters will be able to hold
things down. You would hope, I hope. No, I don't
those You don't want that, you want them back. I
don't know. You mentioned earlier about sometimes you need to
see how bad you are and have a teardown. Maybe
we need that in Carolina, like I don't need some
fake little playoff division win.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Adam, what did you call the last four years?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Yeah? I'm in football hell. The Bills have been as
of late, absolutely so. They've lost two of their last three,
including a game against the Dolphins, which I predicted. They're
looking for some redemption. They're on the road in Pittsburgh.
They will beat not the one arm man, but the
one wrist man in Aaron Rodgers. He's still got a

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left arm, a left hand, a left elbow. Just no
risk there, so no watch. So I expect more clock
malfunctions and game management issues from Mike Tomlin as you
usually get. Mike Tomlin said it's all system go. It's
all systems go for Aaron Rodgers. I'm not sure you
want that. It's almost December and Mason Rudolph the red

(01:38:38):
Nose quarterback. He needs to be leading them this time
of the year. How do you get the red nose?
It's cold out this time of the year. It's also
read from when Miles Garrett beat him with his own helmet.
That was incredible. I had to go back and watch
that today. That's like twenty nineteen, one of the craziest
things I've ever seen on the field. So at worst,

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Mason Rudolph is good at getting the other team's best
player ejected. Aaron Rodgers is not doing that. So because
it's not Rudolph under center, I got the Bills winning
this game and redeeming themselves in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
You're seriously telling me that if Mason Rudolph were starting
this game, you would be taking the Pittsburgh Steelers to win.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Tis the season. Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer led the
sleigh like how he's got to leave the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Steelers right Your nose is growing like Pinocchio's right now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
It's so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
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Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
College football forecast with f and A.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
All right, so we had a bit of a shake
up earlier tonight with Texas taking down Texas A and M.
I mean, it's not that crazy. I did say a
month ago I thought if Texas was competitive against Georgia yep,
which they really weren't, that gave that away. I feel the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Game was closer than the final score would indicate. That
was a one score game. What early in the fourth
late in the third.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
It was in the third quarter when let's see, they
had two fourth down calls, right Kirby smart that they
converted and then they went on side kick after scoring
that touchdown and scored another and the game was basically
over correct I think it was still third.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Yeah, so it's not as if they got you know,
completely bludgeoned, went off the field the entire game.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
But I think if you're going to be a three
loss team and get in, I think they needed to
perform better than that and be closer. I thought if
they were closer then won against Arkansas convincingly. They did,
and then if they beat Texas A and M, they
would have an outside shot. They would have a pretty
good shot of getting it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
I still think they have an outside shot. Ultimately, I
don't think they will because if you value scheduling tough
in the non conference, which is something that the committee
said that they did. Now, granted, Texas had Sam, Houston
State and UTEP in there, but they did go to
Columbus and face Ohio State, and to date, more than
anybody else has given Ohio State the biggest run for

(01:42:09):
its money than anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
Was fourteen to seven, wasn't it. Yes it was, and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
They outgained Ohio State offensively, so they were right there
in there with them. They also they have three wins
over top fourteen opponents. My problem is, so I wouldn't
put them in, but I can certainly understand there's a
compelling enough argument to put them in over certain two
loss teams.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
I can't do it because the loss to Florida is miserable.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
You lost to a three win team and Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
It took overtime to beat Kentucky. I think it took
overtime to beat Mississippi State too, So it's not so
much they have to.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Come back from a big deficit to be Mississippi State.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
At that people are saying, oh, you're penalizing them for
scheduling bravely and going and losing on the road to
Ohio State. No, I'm penalizing them for almost losing to
two garbage teams in overtime and losing to a garbage
team in Florida that fired their head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
It's like you're in a situation where obviously they're subjectivity
and you all of this matters if we're gonna sit
here in debate about who deserves what, how resumes stack up,
eyeball tests, how.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
You win matters, you know, Oh yeah, it's why Notre
Dame is still in front of Miami for the committee.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Still a joke for me, but that's what it is.
That's the standard they've said.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Now, how far do you think Texas A and M
drops because of this loss? As they're currently third, obviously
they're gonna be behind Georgia. George is gonna jump them.
Texas Tech still has to play and will win. Oregon
has Washington, and I think that game you want to
talk about a trap game tap. They haven't won there

(01:43:40):
since twenty twenty one. Washington has owned them. In Washington,
they had the longest I think home winning streak until
Ohio State beat them this year. Washington the Huskies right right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
I look Oregon, by the way, I still think it
needs to needs to like win to guarantee themselves a
spot if they lose it. If they lose this game,
I don't know if they make it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
To be honest with well, they'll definitely need Michigan to lose. Yeah,
if Michigan won an Oregon loss, they would put in
Michigan over or.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
One thousand percent. Oregon isn't a win and you're in
lose and you need and a few dominos to fall
to get yourself vaulted back into that situation.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Ole Miss won tonight. Yeah, Ole Miss won.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
The egg Bowl earlier on Friday, and Lane Kiffin because
you know, basically said he had to pray on what
his decision was, so decision hasn't been made. This isn't
always the case, Adam, by the way, speak just to
stick on that subject matter, but typically when a guy
is staying somewhere, he usually announces it earlier than later.

Speaker 3 (01:44:36):
Yeah, I think he's really just mulling it over and
it's really gonna come down to the eleventh hour.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Maybe it is, but part of me feels like, if
you were gonna stay at Old Miss, he probably would
have said it after the game, or would have said
it before the game even started.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Would you call him the H word. If he left
the hypocrite well done.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
I'm not taking them taking a bite. I'm not doing
it at him. I would not call him that regardless.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
No, I wouldn't know that. I love that he confron
the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Yeah, I would not. I would not say that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
I thought that was great. What's your final guess on
what happens?

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Quiz shot.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
I think he's going. I think if he were staying,
he would have he would have announced it by now.
I think the fact that he's streaking it out I
hope I'm wrong. By the way, I really hope he
stays at ole Miss and it really builds on something.
I mean, look, they have a chance if Alabama loses
the Iron Bolt to a to all Burn, which I
think is a distinct possibility by the way, Ole Miss
will make it to the SEC Championship Game and enter

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even more uncharted territory. They've already have eleven regular season wins,
something they've never done. They have had eleven wins in
the past, which Lane Kiffin did a couple of years
ago when they won their bowl game.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
I mean he has a chance to turn old Miss
uh into who knows, maybe maybe a new dynasty.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Yes, they could win the national championship this year, couldn't they?
I mean, I know it's unlikely, but they're in the mix.
Why is it unlikely? I don't trust their defense enough,
like I've already seen them lose to Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
No, I'm gonna saying, you make it into the you
make it into the postseason, and you have offense the
way that they can score. I don't think they beat
Ohio State or Indian. I'm more concerned about Ohio State
or Indiana than anybody else that they face in the field.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
I think they're not quite a top tier team for me,
but they have a chance. You can go to LSU
and it could be a couple of years before he
has a team ranked seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
He can also just bring his entire team with them
from Ole Miss to LSU and they can keep competing.
So I'm not worried about that part as much. No,
but the pressure is just so much higher at LSU
and the chances of winning in today's college football landscape,
I don't really know if you're having a marquee franchise
or name like LSU behind.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
You helps you that much. I don't think so. I
don't see the upside. I don't see the upside to it.
What's the point you have a team that could win
a national championship this year. Conceivably they might move up.
I don't know if they would pass Texas A and M,
who only has one loss, like tex Is A and
L third, Ole Miss is seventh, how much they move up.

(01:47:03):
I don't know. They're not going to get a bye.
Most likely.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
Well, if if All Miss wins the SEC championship game,
I think by virtue of that, they're probably gonna jump
Texas A and M because then they both have one
loss and then they have the extra data point. In fact,
they want the conference title.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
To get in, they still need Bama to lose to
get to the ACS.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
To to get to the conference championship again, they need
Bama to lose to Auburn, which I can definitely see
happening because Bama offensively has been shaky this year. Tys
Simpson has been shaking the last couple of weeks down
the stretch, and Auburn's defense has been great all season long,
and offensively now that they've made a change at the
quarterback position, which coincides directly with the fact that they've
made a change that they had coaching position, they've looked

(01:47:42):
better on offense. So, Jordan Hare, you know, crazy things
can happen there in this rivalry. It would not surprise
me in the least bit if Auburn found a way
to win this game.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
And if Bama loses, they're out. They're done. Even though
really impressive month, Yeah, maybe the most impressive month by
an et even given who they were going up against,
it's not gonna matter. Yep, three losses and they're done. Uh,
I'm worried about my ducks. I gotta go back to
that in Washington because here's the thing. Michigan beach if

(01:48:13):
they beat Ohio State again, the number one ranked team
by the committee, I think, rightfully, So it's not just
that that'll get them to leave Oregon. Michigan beat Washington, correct,
so they'll look at common opponent. They would absolutely jump
past Oregon, who's best win was against USC. Correct. Penn

(01:48:34):
State didn't help anybody, No, it doesn't, so which makes
this vitally important.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Now I agree, and you're right, Oregon has been a
house of whoes for them going against Husky Stadium these
last few.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Go arounds, forever.

Speaker 2 (01:48:46):
But uh, there's something different about this team with Dan Lanning.
I think they go on there and handle business. I'm
not really that concerned about it, to be honest with you,
despite the fact ORGA has been doing this for the
past month with like two of their top three receivers hurt.

Speaker 3 (01:48:58):
Yes, guys haven't even been playing and they've had much
more thin than people realize, and they've.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Still found ways to be able to win games and
be tough. So I think Washington potentially puts up a fight,
but ultimately as the organ being able to pull this
one out. The one that to look at is Michigan
versus Ohio State because Michigan's won this game the last
four times.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Well, and they were twenty point dogs last year, correct
and they won. They have a better chance of winning
this one well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Also, if you consider what the conditions are going to be,
which is snow flurries forty mile an hour wins. So look,
Michigan can't throw the ball in lock anyway, So what
difference does it make for them? Yeah, Julian Sane. People
are saying like, well, this is now his opportunity to
jump ahead in the Heisman race, and really showcase what
he can do and maybe create some separation. Does it
seem to be like the most ideal conditions for you

(01:49:45):
to be able to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
It is interesting to me that. Look, I said, I
think Ohio State should be ranked number one, but we
are putting in a lot of that just based upon
them being the champs and them dominated some bad competition.
It's just interesting they haven't really been tested. Some of
it is because, yes, they have been that good. Some

(01:50:08):
of it is because they just haven't ended up playing
a really good team given their schedules so far this season.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
They just, you know, it, had a year where they
didn't have Oregon or Indiana in the regular season or US.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Up in the States screwing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Everybody at the upper echelon of the conference. They just
had one of those you know, fluky years.

Speaker 6 (01:50:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Granted that they've handled business, and we talked about the
fact that Texas gave them the biggest run for their
money in Week one of the season. So I can't
necessarily dock Ohio State for that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
I'm not docking it. I just I'm more intrigued because
of it, you know, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
Yeah, yeah, And Michigan's been on the heater and I've
played extremely Now, look, they've had some close calls too,
like Northwestern and the game at Wrigley Field was tough,
but there was also high wins in a situation there too.

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
So uh, that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Game that I'm probably the most intrigued by. That game
in the Iron Bowl, for sure. Both have humongous playoff implications,
and uh, it would not surprise me in the at
least been if Michigan made this five in a row
against Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
A better chance of up saying those teams Auburn beating
Alabama or Michigan beating Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
I think because of the way the two teams have
played recently, I think that Auburn has a better chance
of beating Alabama than Michigan has a beating Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Okay, now what about Oklahoma? Is there a chance? Are
you saying there's a chance because I think everybody's just
expecting them to win against LSU.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Sure they're in disarray, they should with a backup quarterback
with an offense that sucks anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Yeah, sometimes at Oklahoma offense though their defense is so good,
but their offense if Mateer's not feeling well with that thumb.
I don't know that would be that would really upend
things ranks.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
Less about the thumb and more about just general inconsistency
at this point, with Matier.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
Less of an excuse at this point, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
But I don't see this being much of an issue.
They're at home, they know what's at stake. This is
a de facto playoff game for them against an LSU
team that has the interim head coach that's playing off
the string. Maybe LSU keeps it close for a half
or so. I think I'm looking at eleven and a
half point favorite over here, So yeah, I could potentially
see LSU covering the spread, and by covering the spread,

(01:52:06):
they can lose by ten.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
So, I really don't see this as much of a
panic issue for Oklahoma personally.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
Do you see uh the common opponent angle here with
Miami now going up against Pitt like after what we
saw what Notre Dame did to Pitt, and they're gonna
put a ton of stock into style points here with
Miami this weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
No, because, honestly, considering that Miami is ranked twelve and
the fact that they really don't have a path outside
of just a complete craziness happening to the AEC Championship game.
It pretty much tells me that they're screwed about barring
chaos ahead of them, because if they're not gonna be
ahead of Notre Dame, then who the hell us are
they gonna be ahead of?

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
In this in the in the in the ranking is
their issue.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
So even the common opponent part, if they blow out Pit,
well Notre Dame blew out Pit, So what difference does
it make?

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
So my Miami's only path is absolute utter chaos ahead
of them, which would include Notre Dame losing the Stanford,
which ain't happening, by the way, So all due respect
to Miami, they're just planning to try to make sure
they get their tenth win of the season and get
themselves a decent New Year's Bowl game, But I think
their playoff hopes are not officially dead, but pretty much dead.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
What about Utah and BYU in the Big Twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Well, BYU is interesting, so most likely a rematch in
the Big twelve championship game against Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
That's the one championship game that could have some real
meaning to it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
Definitely, definitely, but I'll be honest with you, the way
these two teams are built.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
If Texas Tech loses to BYU, I think they could
they get another victory there.

Speaker 3 (01:53:42):
They smoked them the first time. Yeah yeah. And Utah's
kind of screwed because they lost to both teams. They
really don't have a case. They're kind of capped where
they're at they are.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
There are another one of those teams where they would
need absolute chaos ahead of them in order to Like
Oklahoma losing Notre Dame losing Alabama, you just need all
of the dominoes in front of you to be able
to fall. There's just too much to ask for.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
And even then the committee might go, oh, if all
these teams lost, maybe we can justify putting Texas in.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
It's possible, absolutely right, they could jump in front of
them one thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Yeah, So a lot to be decided. One thing to
keep an eye on.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
I don't it has very very minor playoff implications, But
the battle for Tennessee, if you want to call it that,
between Vanderbilt and Tennessee, this is probably the most important
game between these two teams, and probably ever We're not
surprised me all Vanderbilt found a weading pick up a
victory here. That's for for Tennessee bragging rights. For anybody
that cares.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
It is the best weekend of college football. Rivalry Week.
It's hard to say.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
I cannot say it fast. Adam doesn't need.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
To watch Rivalry Week. Rivalry Week, rival Rivalry Week. That's
pretty good right by Rivalry Week, Red River Rivalry Rivalry Week.
I do ton twisters sometimes it helps coming up next
too on, Too Off. We both tied again.

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
But.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
In a different way. We'll explain. I've ad a Oslin,
he's Kevin figures. This is fn A on FSR.

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Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
All right, Mark, let's not waste any time. Let's get
to it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
You are all right, Kevin? So, for a month we've
been sparring back and forth and had a stalemate where
we both went too and two every week for a month.
We tied as well, but uh we both went one
and three. Yeah, the BOMs law not good. So the

(01:56:08):
current standings are this. I'm twenty three and twenty five,
you're twenty six and twenty two on the season, and
Joel Klass thirty one and thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Continued shots at Joel Klass.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
I'm in Joel clatt territory right now. You know I'm
catching up to him in the wrong way, all right,
So two on two off works like this, kids, We
got to pick two games on favorites and two games
off of favorites on underdogs. Correct, So do you want
to give me a favorite here, Kevin?

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
So, I'm going with the Miami Dolphins, who are now
five and a half point favorites over Breeze Saints. That
was six, by the way, so those money coming in
on that. The Dolphins, coming off of a bye weekend,
played well. These last couple of weeks have turned things
completely around all the way to the postseason. They're not
on the way to the postseason, but they can the
very least can run the Saints off of the field.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Very much. Expect that to happen this weekend. Bree had
a face like, oh is that surprising? Brie took a
sour warhead and puckered up. Well, it's fine, it's fine, alright, alright,
what's a favorite for you there? I want to do
the same now, No, let's mix it up a little bit. No,

(01:57:20):
do whatever you want, all right, all right, all right, alright, right,
I'm going with the New England Patriots minus seven at
home against the New York Giants. What is that about?
Are you trying to get me to go out with
the Carolina Panthers. I'm not taking the Panthers. I'm never
taking the Panthers again. Take the bait, No, take the bait.

(01:57:41):
Last week that would have screwed me. I would have
been holding four. So yes, New England Patriots minus seven.
They can cover that against the Giants. They're due for
a big game, although their offensive lines a little bit now,
very much beat up.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
You would think the Giants have been pretty scrappy this year,
but Hey, that's your pick, so whatever, No hold on
my my other on Seattle. I talked about it earlier
in the show minus eleven and a half over the
Minnesota Vikings. I think this game is going to be
a complete and total domination as the Vikings almost quite
literally are running a warm body out there at quarterbacks
some guy I've never heard of.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Okay, good luck to him. I've got the Chargers. Oh
was that disrespectful? Bre I'm sorry, Chargers minus eight and
a half at home against your Raiders? Is that disrespectful? No?
I mean eight and a half against the Raiders. They
eight and a half. I saw ten. You got eight
and a half on this. I guess Raiders fans have
been betting it down.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Okay, is that how that works?

Speaker 3 (01:58:36):
I saw a bettam gym was ten. But all right,
we'll get you. We'll give you eight and a half.
I'm looking at right now, Chargers minus eight and a half.
Kevin's seeing his believing Kevin's checking my work over here.
You would have taken him if you knew it was
eight and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
I mean, no, I'll staying I'm staying away from that
one anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
But all right, so I have that, and I have
New England as my awns. My favorites, give me it off,
give me an underdog here.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Indy three and a half point favorites over Houston. That's
down from four and a half. I talked about this
earlier in the show too.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
I like Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
I like the momentum that they have Indianapolis kind of
coming down to earth a little bit, especially offensively. That
Houston defense has been great recently, so I like Houston
to cover that three and a half point spread over
the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
I might do something really stupid here, do it? Am
I really gonna do this? I mean God is on
his side. If God is for him, who can be
against him? Browns that did me right last week? Plus
five at home against the forty nine Ers. The goat,

(01:59:44):
Shadeur Sanders is under center for the Browns. He's got
the starting job locked up. Stole this one from me,
Hold the exact same one, Yeah it too. I also
have the Cleveland Browns covering this game against the stapsist
for forty nine Ers, mostly because this Browns defense has
been absolutely amazing. Rock Party did not look good and
that second half last week the Panthers not beating at

(02:00:04):
me through three picks in the first quarter. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
And Miles Garrett is on is on track to break
the all time sacks record. It's been absolutely amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
How does that flying owners of the radar?

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Because he plays for the Browns, who are terrible. That's why,
Well we have eighteen sacks to like what the twelve
games or.

Speaker 3 (02:00:19):
Whatever it's been. We need to talk about that more. Yeah,
but he still has to break it in sixteen games.
If he gets to seventeen. If it takes him seventeen,
it's not the same.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
I kind of feel like it still counts at him.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Why because Farv gave it away to Michael straight.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
There is that and then TJ. Watt absolutely earned it
a few years later. So thankfully to say his credit.
But Miles Garrett one of the great players in the
NFL that people really talk about, because again, he plays
for a franchise that no one talks about. Although now
they have to star a quarterback the new face of
the franchise, Shadu or Sanders at the home maybe Miles
Garrett will gets some more run.

Speaker 3 (02:00:48):
Two moving forward, all right, my off Tennessee Titans plus
six at home against the Jackson calling

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
The Titans all right thanks to Bree, thanks to Mark
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