FnA with Kevin Figgers & Adam Auslund react to the Cowboys Thursday Night Football Loss, Penn State Finally Has A New Head Coach + Petros Papadakis joins the show!

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Speaker 3 (00:17):
Coming up on the show tonight special edition, why because
Petros Papadakis will be joining us here and that's always fun.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
He's our college football.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Expert and we've been hanging out with him all week
long and now you guys get to get his opinions, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
On everything that's going on with the college football playoff rankings,
and there's a lot just college football news in general. Obviously,
the hiring of Matt Campbell away from Iowa State going
to Penn State. Nobody seemed to want that job until
Matt Campbell jumped in and scrambled towards it for an
eight year contracts. So we'll talk to the op about that.
I'll probably mention that a little bit coming up on
the second segment of the show as well. We also
have the NFL six Pack to get into big week

(00:55):
of a lot of big pivotal matchups in the National
Football League to get to as well.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Two on two off in the back end of this
hour Stranger than fiction, we got it for you involving animals.
But as we always do well, first off, here for.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
You go time that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Speaking of animals, the Lions would get the victory over
the Dallas Cowboys in a pseudo playoff game on Thursday
Night Football, which turned out to be a pretty good
game considering Dallas gave it a run at the end before.
Was that Sonic or Knuckles who put the game away
for the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I would imagine that Jamiir First of all, Jamier Gibbs
can be sonic and knuckles and throwing tails at the
same time. He can be whatever the hell you want
them to be. I heard this stat yesterday. So he
is tied with Barry Sanders for the most touchdown runs
for a career at the age of twenty four. Seems good, yeah,
which is he's had scored more touchdowns faster than Emmitt
Smith at the same age.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, probably a better offensive line than Barry Sanders had
to work with in Detroit.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I would say better offensive line than Emmitt Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Though, no, not quite No, No, Emmitt Smith. Look, we're
not saying he was a fraud here, he's one of
the greatest.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
The most nyer fraud.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I've never the people who say that they throw disrespect
to Mmit Smith's name and say that he wasn't a great.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Player, Like those are Cardinals fans. They didn't get the
real ms.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Let me throw you back to was it the ninety
four or ninety five season when Emmitt Smith held out
and missed the first three games of the year and
they couldn't run the ball a lick?

Speaker 4 (02:22):
What about offense? A broken collarbone? Yeah, and ran for
like two hundred yards or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You know, if the if the offensive line was so
dominant and it didn't matter, why couldn't the Cowboys run
the ball at all when Emmitt Smith wasn't there?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
This is fair.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
It wasn't a Denver Broncos situation where you plug.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
In Mike Anderson. I think it was in Orlanda's Gary
keep going now.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I am not disrespecting Terrell Davis either, because he's one
of my favorite running backs and I did think he
belonged in the Hall of Fame, and he eventually got in,
but they were doing a lot of cut blocking, and
well those Denver Broncos offensive lines, they could open up
holes for just about any of it.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Well, look if it was legal at the time, you
know it was.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean, what did Mark Schlare say that they used
to put on themselves just like vasoline up like diddy
baby oil? Like what what did they use back then?
So no defensive line could get by him. I just
just flopping all over the place. I don't know if
this is true, but I feel like it is. So
you know that Mark Schlere's nickname is stink. Do you
know why that is? No, I'd like to because he did.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
He wasn't very the most hygienic player when he was
out there on the field, very purposefully.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Oh you don't want to be?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Yes, And when I pancake you and stand over you, you're
really gonna smell this?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, So I haven't forbid I use you as a
whoopy cushion the bottom of a pile.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Like.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Those are interesting tactics, but they were effective at the time.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
But yeah, the Troit lines jump out to a huge
lead against the Cowboys, and now, as you mentioned, Dallas
did battle back and make a little bit of the
game of it, but just shot themselves in the foot
a little bit too much. Three turnovers, losing Ceede Lamb
by the way, huge because he was having a humongous
game before he left with the concussion. So you can't
discount that.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
They had to settle for too many field goals when
the Detroit Lions were cooking with touchdowns out there. That
was a big differentiator to me. But this is also
kind of a leveling type of game where you find
out where you are a measuring stick contest. The Lions
are just better. Dallas has gotten better. Yes, the defense
has been better. They still put up forty on them

(04:23):
and this was a must win game, you felt like
for both teams with playoff implications on the line.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, it really was.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And Detroit and fock for people who and look, you're
not the only one, Adam who said this last week
about their championship window potentially closing. Our colleagues here at
Fox Sports Radio, Rob Parker set this a couple of
weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Our Jeff Schwartz say this earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Well, I'm gonna still act like I was the first.

Speaker 6 (04:44):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
I'm just saying that there was a narrative that's been
thrown around out there that the Detroit Lions window to
compete for titles has closed, And I'll be honest with you,
I don't even know if it's closed this year. Like,
is there anybody in the NFC that really scares you
as much as we like the Rams? Well, look what
happened to them against Carol last week. I mean, damn straight,
So everybody that's in the playoff field at this point

(05:05):
in time, I would even go to the AFC as
good as New England looks, I don't know if I
would necessarily say that they're unbeatable at this point. So
consider all the talent that the Detroit Lions have. I mean, look,
I'm just looking at just look at their roster. Forget that,
but the coordinators and by the way, people talk about
losing Ben Johnson and how big of a deal that was.
They have the number one offense in the league last year,
their third this year. It's not like has missed some
giant drop off or anything. If anything, it's been defensively.

(05:29):
They were I believe fifth in the league in total
defense last year and they've dropped to like sixteenth or
seventeenth this year. So if anything, they're probably missing Aaron
Glynn more than they're missing Ben Johnson.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well, to your point of the field being wide open
when they had all the advantages being the number one
seed in the NFC last season, they blew it.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
There's context and there always is, so this is what
people talk about. So two years ago they went to
the NFC Championship game in San Francisco, had a lead
at halftime and lost. You can chalk it up to
not having a lot of playoff experience. Fine, go to
last season records in the NFC. They were limping into
the postseason. It was a mass unit on defense. I
contend I think I said this, I may have been
doing a show with either Jason Fitz or Anthony Gargano

(06:08):
here on Fox Sports Radio. If their defense was healthy,
I think they beat Washington last year. Washington ran up
and down the field on them because their defense was unrecognizable.
All their best players got hurt the last third of
the season.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
But Golf still had three or four picks in that game.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
No, he did, but it still was what forty five
to thirty or forty five to twenty eight, something like.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
That it was within striking distance. For how much the
score wasn't indicative of how close the game was.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Context needs to be added when you talk about why
teams lose in certain situations, you're right. And I'm looking
at Jared Golf who's still in the probably in his
prime at this point in time, and he's better than
an above average quarterback.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I'd say he's a good starting NFL quarterback.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Amarasse Brown is in his fifth year, He's twenty six
years old and is one of the best receivers in
the league.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Sam Laporta, who was hurt, one of the best tight
ends in the league.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Jamison Williams fourth year in one of the better young
receivers who's still on the on the come we just
talked about. Jamir Gibbs already in what year two three
is one of the best players offensive in the league,
regardless of position. You got Pinn Sewell at left tackle,
All Pro, one of the best offensive linemen in the league.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is just locked up.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Aiden Hudgson, one of the best defensive ends in the league.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Jack Campbell, who had a great game the other night,
is also an All Pro at linebacker.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
And when you say all that, how are they only
seven and five? Well, look, this is this happens that
this happens sometimes too.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I mean, they have had some inconsistencies this year, like
a lot of teams have.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
And the division is fantastic because we didn't see the
Bears being this good incremental improvements with bringing in Ben Johnson,
I didn't think they'd be at the top of the
division like this. Where I was going with that though,
is they had everything in their favor last season and
it didn't work out for them with the number one
seed because the injuries.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Yeah, the injuries are big.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Everything going in their favor until that happened, and that
can't be discounted.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
I'm just saying, maybe they'll actually be more battle tested
because they've had to start early with these pseudo type
of fake playoff games going on where their backs were
against the wall earlier in the season and they have
to win.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
That's where I was going to go.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I said, I think the fact that they actually have
that playoff experience under their belt and now they're playing
games that they have to win late in the season here,
I think it could actually end up working in their favor.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Well, not just games primetime games against other teams who
were desperate to win, and they still won that game
against Dallas, who's been playing very well. Their record doesn't
tell you how good they've been playing over the last
few weeks.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Not in the least.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And if you look at Detroit their next game against
the Rams, I'm surprised that one is not in prime
time that's gonna be at so far, that's another pseudo
playoff game.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Where's the flex where's the flex at? That's a good question.
One game get flexed recently?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It did?

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Didn't that happen?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
It did?

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Thursday night game got flex?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I mean, forget exactly which matchup it was, Beya, Bree
can look into that one for us. I forget exactly
what it was.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
FlexIt please.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
But that's a huge measuring stick game for Detroit going
AGAINSTO Los Angeles to see exactly where they measure up
against the Rams.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
I think that's going to be a huge one next week.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, And I would say this for the Dallas Cowboys,
last night or Thursday night is not the game that
killed them. That's not the game that was always going
to be a tough game. It's earlier in the season.
It's a loss to the Panthers, it's a loss to
the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Those are the.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Games you look back upon and say, we let one
get over.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
We could even say the Bears game where the Bears
were still early in the seasons kind of figuring things out,
and really their first breakout performance was against Dallas. It
was kind of a stepping was that week two or
three of the season or something like that. So when
people say, and you hear about this in the NBA
a lot too, or even in Major League Baseball, a
lot of these early season games you're feeling it out.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
It doesn't necessarily matter. Every game matters, you.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Know, thought I was talking to somebody about the NBA.
There was about the Lakers last year and how they
finished with a third seed and you know where they're
going to finish this year.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
It doesn't matter. Just get in.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
That was like the difference between the third seed and
the ninth seed last year and the Western Conference was
two games. So a random loss on a Tuesday night
in December against Atlanta matters. It could end up mattering
when it's all said and done. There are no games
that you can just give away.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
And in particular, while the NFL has had wild card
teams go in and get hot at the end of
the season and win it all. Hasn't had a team
that wasn't top three win the championship since the ninety
five Rockets, and they had won the year before, so
that was kind of a fluky thing. Anyways, There's been
two teams ever that have won the NBA Championship that
weren't top three seeds. So it definitely matters where you're

(10:15):
ranked now.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, and obviously the sample size is much smaller in
the NFL. You have fewer games to work with, so
every game is much more important. But yeah, you can't
afford to give games away early in the season because
now you finders because look, if you win those two
games and now all of a sudden, you're what eight
and six or seven and six, whatever it is at
this point, and you have a little bit more breathing room.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Now, do you think the Dallas Cowboys are done after
this game?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, because the way the Philadelphia Eagles are playing does
not inspire confidence. And if the Eagles find a way
to lose on Monday Night to the Chargers, which I
think is very possible, we're in the same situation we
were going into Thursday night. The Eagles have a one
game lead in the division over the Cowboys with what
four games left on the schedule.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
So they dropped from like what a fifty percent chance
if they won that game to a nine percent chance
or a seven percent chance to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Losing it not in their favor.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Basically, they probably have to win out and the Eagles
would have to lose two of the last four games.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
So it's not likely to happen, but it's possible.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right again, based on how Dallas has looked the last
four weeks save for Thursday night, and how Philly has
looked really all season long, but especially the last three weeks,
I'm not good.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I can't say with full on.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Confidence, Yeah, the Dallas is done and the Philadelphia Eagles
have the NFC East locked up.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I have to say the one ad I've done with
Dak Prescott this season because of not just his play
but his leadership, I forgot how much I like him
just as a guy. Like as much as people have
hated the Dallas Cowboys over the last fifty years, I
don't hate their last two quarterbacks at all. I find

(11:44):
them extremely likable. Between him and Tony Romo.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Romo talks a little bit too much for me on
the TV broadcast with it. Sorry, okay, But back when
he was playing I loved him.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yes, I was the last one to buy into Dak Prescott,
even though he was having that outstanding rookie season.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
I was like, no, you know what you have with him?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
And then he got in for some garbage time touchdown
against the Jaguars in that regular season and mop up time,
and I was like.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, stick with Romo.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Stick with him, and we'll never know what would have
happened Dak Prescott. It looked like he had regressed to
some degree this season. Though he's been outstanding. He's still
in his prime. He can win a Super Bowl with
the right makeup around him, with the right construction around
him roster wise.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Now we talk about that roster construction, and a godsend
for that team has been George Pickens. He's been amazing
for them all season long. But he was a source
of some controversy on Thursday night because after Ceedee Lamb
went out, he became the number one option. And this
has happened. See he missed the game earlier this year
and Pickens was the number one option, and he was phenomenal.
But there have been issues with Ceedee Lamb going back

(12:49):
to his days in Pittsburgh, which is, by the way,
the reason why he's not in Pittsburgh. Some off field issues,
some effort issues. Even this year, Brian Schottenneimer has admitted, Yeah,
he's missed a couple of team buses, He's missed a
few team meetings. When we talk about all this star players,
great players have longer leash than other than you know,
your regular everyday Joe.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
On the back end of the roster.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yes, but it comes to a head when it's on
national television and Richard Sherman is god doing a little
bit of a breakdown.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Do we have audio of this breeze?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
So here's what Richard Sherman, analysts for Amazon Prime, said
about George Pickens and his effort on Thursday night in
the postgame show The.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Big Story, Here's George Pickens.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
George Pickens throughout the game, especially late in the game,
just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football, you know, And
that's what you can't have if you're going to be
a superstar, if you want to be the best receiver
in the National Football League, you can ever be disengaged.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
It doesn't matter if the game's.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Going your way.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
I'm not going your way. You can't just disappear in
these games or.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Else you're not gonna have impact.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
And just right here, cruising cruising routes, you're the guy,
You're the guy.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Ceedee Lamba's not in this game.

Speaker 7 (13:45):
He's out and you get intercepted on your slat routes
and you can't beat the guy in half ascid. I'm sorry,
that's just you can't. It's unacceptable. And if you're the
Dallas Cowboys and you're looking at him and you're looking
to pay him big time receiver money forty million dollars,
you got to look at this state and say, hey,
is this a guy we can trust paying forty million
dollars to show up regardless of circumstance.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
But I don't know now he said you look at
him A look at the tape. You obviously can't see
that here on Fox Sports Radio, but we can explain
to you if you haven't seen the actual tape that
was rolling while if Richard Sherman was speaking, Yeah, Pickens
is kind of lollygagging.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
A couple of routes.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
There was a ball, kind of a fifty to fifty
ball where he could have really attacked it and decided
not to when the defender broke it up.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Looked like Cam Newton the Super Bowl, going for that
fumble or not going for it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So yeah, I'll bring that up every time that pray
fair enough, I understand.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
So George Pickens, as I think this might be the
third time this year where he's done this. Oh really,
He hosts an Instagram post in response to Richard Sherman.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Wait and they defined did you find that commentary that's
scathing from Richard Sherman.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I thought it was fair. You thought it was fair.
I thought it was fair. For personal.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
No, I don't think it was personal. I don't even
know that they It's like they played against each other
or anything. I don't think there's anything personal. Richard Sherman
is very outspoken, always has been, obviously, and look he
had the tape to back it up.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Again, it's not like George Pickens's reputation has not followed him.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
We see he has the talent to be a tough
five receiver in the league. He's amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I thought he took it maybe a little bit further
than he needed, tokay, just for clicks and attention, talking
about if he's gonna give effort like that, you can't
pay a guy or you have to wonder about that.
But it wasn't bad. I don't think it was unprofessional.
I don't think it was over the line, and I.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Don't think it warranted this response. Well, I'm gonna try
to clean this up a little bit. Good luck.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
George Pickens' response on Instagram before it was actually deleted said,
this is a team game, lmao.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I'm not the only one on the team.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Stop becoming an analyst and talking about one player when
he playing a team's game. A lot of our ish
has to go right for explosive plays. And it's funny
because I thought former players would know that. As such, Richard,
I can't say those two words on the air. Sherman, who,
by the way, ain't ish without the legion of Boom.
We all remember San Francisco. Brother, what does that mean?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I don't know what he ain't. He was a big
part of the Legion of Boom. What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
He closed out that game against San Francisco. He knocked
the pass away leading to the pick and that's why
he was.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Calling out Crabtree afterwards.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Don't speak on me unless you know the game of
football as a former player, not a blank fan slash
analyst that act like double team is not a thing,
or certain bracket coverages don't exist. Knowing you play ball,
wouild show me you a leech weirdo? Now Twitter eat
this up?

Speaker 4 (16:24):
We did, we did, and now we're spitting it back out.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Some of this is like he's messing up history talking
about remember San Francisco, You mean when they beat him
in the NFC Championship and then smoke the Denver Broncos
because of that legion of boom that yes, he was
the best corner for there were other guys.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
It wasn't just him, but but I mean, he was
one of the faces.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Chandler Chancellor is probably my favorite.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Safety at that knock your head off with the way
he hit.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Didn't he get Megatron once?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Didn't that happen like on a fumble right before he
was about to cross.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
The end Z I'm gonna look it up though. I
know that meg Charn's.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Also one of my favorites, but I do not understand
where he's coming from. Was some of the criticism or
the response to Richard Sherman, because when you say double
team bracket coverages.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Just like, why don't you respond to.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
The specifics of what Richard Sherman was looking at. He
had your tape of you pulling up lame and not
going all out.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
For a ball tape.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Don't lie, Come on, had nothing to do with the
double team. No, that's just you not giving an all
out effort. Well, and see that's what calls into question.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Now they're not gonna do it at this point in
time because they already traded for me and I think
at worse they're gonna franchise them. Yeah, but obviously it's
great to have a receiver duel like Ceede Lamb and
George Pickens, But can you rightfully commit that much money
in a long term contract? And Pickens is going to
demand number one type receiver money to two guys, first
of all, just two receivers in general, knowing the needs
that you have on the defense and on the offensive line.

(17:51):
That's one, and then two to a guy that you
might not be able to rely on.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
He's so damn talented though, that is the problem. And
he has played like a number one receiver all season
without and Pittsburgh knew he had that talent in him,
but things were so bad there they gave up on him.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
Now is he on his best behavior? Is this what
his best behavior looks like? That's the thing, Adam.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
His best behavior is missing team buses and missing team
meetings and loly gaggan on the field. So once he
actually gets broken off and gets paid, then what mediocre?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Hey, that's what you worry about. Mediocre, that's the problem.
If this is the.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Effort he's giving in basically a contract year in a
game where ced goes down and they need him to
step up, and he's obviously capable of doing it, you
do worry. But I you mentioned the franchise tag. You
can do that two years in a row, now, right.
I think they will obviously take the risk. It's the

(18:48):
long term contract that then you wonder about down the line.
Or is he going to be happy being franchise tag
because he's not getting that long term money that's guaranteed
play to something else.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, no player is ever happy to get tagged.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
But sorry, you're only getting paid the average salary of
a top five player at your position.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I'm so sorry, which is twenty plus million dollars if
who knows what at the receiver position. Yeah, I think
he'll survive.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I they're two dynamic with him and CD. The only
chance they have the hope moving forward is because their
offense is so spectacular and if the defense can just
be as Richard Sherman would say, mediocre, yeah, mediocre next
year mediocre, then they are a contender. So yeah, they're
going to take the risk. He's worth it, But there

(19:34):
are some warning signs right now, no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
This is an FNA On FSR.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
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Adam Ay Adam. We do have some reaction to our
Richard Sherman versus George Pickens conversation from the first segment.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Is this corrections and retractions. We're trying to bite a
real show.

Speaker 10 (21:10):
Now.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
What's happening here?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Said at Superstar Dad says he's talking about when Sherman
played for the forty nine ers. When he says, we
all saw what happened in San Francisco. I think Jayson B.
Diamond also says. The way I looked at what George
Pickens said is he meant Richard Sherman the year he
played for the forty nine ers.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, now he double sourced it correct, so they must
be right. That's what he was talking about. But that's
still not a very good argument from Pickens.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Because he was washed at that point.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yes, he was coming off of an ACL injury, which
is a big reason why he didn't sign back with Seattle,
and San Francisco signed him, and he was damaged goods
at that point.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
He and Achilles, he wasn't the same player. Yeah, he
was done.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
That's not a fair comparison, being like, oh, he was
hiding behind the muscles of everybody else with the lesion
of boom and that's the only reason.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
He was good.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
We compared him.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I remember we did a show back then to who's
the best corner between him and Patrick Patterson or Peterson?
Patrick Peterson, Patrick Peterson for the Arizona Cardinals. We talked
about that Richard Sherman was elite mediocre.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
He was not mediocre.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
He was that good. So Pickens, he's wrong about this.
I'm sorry Yes, he needs a history lesson.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
He's young. I get it, Breece.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Should we go to Hermosa Beach? Should we go to
abbey a?

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Is that near Seal Beach?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
It is not.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It's quite a ways away. That's kind of near my
neck of the woods. Abby, what's going on? You leave
a Hennessy tavern or Patrick mlloy's.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (22:35):
Hey, guys, I'm not a Patrick mclloy's, but I've been
there quite a few times. I just wanted to say
I'm a Niner fan and I totally understood his comments
to be about the Niners. But he George Dickens is
very talented. You said that, but he needs to mature,

(22:57):
Okay in his comments about world time players like Richard Sherman.
He can't just be talking when Cavalier attitude like he's
the best person in the world.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
He's not.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
He hasn't proven it yet. Richard Sherman has proven it. Yes,
he was damaged as coming to the forty nine Ers,
but the forty nine ers respected him enough and he's
still an amazing commentator. And I hate to say that
because I hated the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
A forty nine Er fan yeah, we feel Youavy, Thanks
for the call, much appreciate it. To be safe out
there intermerussa beach.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
You know what George Pickens should have said nothing, nothing,
or he's right, I need to be better, yeah, instead
of deflecting and saying it's a team game, just like, yeah,
this one's on me.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I'll do better next time.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
And that's it.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
It doesn't become a story at that point time. And
if anything, it actually.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Helps the narrow around you because that's something that's followed
you your entire.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Career, that would show maturity and growth, that would make
the Pittsburgh Steelers green with envy.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
That you left them.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yes, they let you go, but still all.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Right, So before we talk about the potential of a
NBA star being traded, we do want to talk about
some of the big news from Friday night. It has
now become official that Matt Campbell is leaving the university
or Iowa State University, i should say, and is now
will be the head coach at Penn State after Penn
State could not find anybody to take that job. Kline
Satakia b why you turned them down? Jeff Brahm at
Louisville turned them down. It's been hard sledding for for

(24:36):
Penn State.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Is that about unrealistic expectations by the fan base?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (24:40):
I think what it is.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think it was probably just a quick and emotional
decision by their athletic director who fired James Franklin, but
probably didn't really have a plan in place as to
who was going to replace him.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You could say what you.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Want about James Franklin and his shortcomings, He's still considered
one of the best coaches in America, and it's gonna
be hard to replicate what he did as far as
bring the amount of talent that he brought in. I
know he didn't get the top ten wins or beat
Ohio State and all that. We can talk about all that,
but that's really difficult to do.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
He set a baseline of competitive greatness. Yeah, they just
couldn't get over the hump in the biggest games.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
So now you have to meet that base, you have
to surpass that baseline. If you're Matt Campbell, that's the problem.
So the expectation level is going to be raised from
you from day one, you know. But Matt Campbell did
at Iowa State for his decade plus. Was our actual decade.
It was ten years.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Was great because that was a Wobegone program that did nothing.
You've been a fan of his for a while.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
He's been great, and I know Petrols has too. We'll
ask Petrol's about it because I know Petrols has been
a fan of Matt Campbell. I advocated for Matt Campbell
to get the UCLA job when it's been opened the
last couple of times, the USC job when it's been
opened the last couple of times. We warned him over
west side here he got offered the Detroit Lions head
coaching job before no relation. Dan Campbell got offered and
he turned it down. He turned it down.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well, now someone probably wouldn't turn down that job. Nan
Campbell was the one really taking a risk at that
time because of all the dysfunction and losing that well.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I had to buy off a few Niue caps and
look where they are now to turn them around. Yeah,
so I would say a good hire all things consider,
considering where things have been the problem is now you've
surpassed the early signing period. You do have the portal
coming up in January, so that helps, but your recruiting
class is dog.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yes, their recruiting class sounds like George Pick. It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
It is.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
And this is what happens when you fire ahead coach
and you thought you were getting out ahead of it
by doing it early in the season and you'd find
somebody to be the replacement, and you just haven't done it,
and now you find yourself as one of the last teams,
really the last major FBS program to fill your head
coaching position, and it's after the early signing period.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
The stuff the AD said after releasing James Franklin also, yeah,
we are here to win championships.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
This is Penn stake. We have to bring in someone
who can recruit and who can win. And WHU can
was like, all right, well, I'm sorry. When's the last
time they won a national title? Been a long time? Eighties?
Been a long time eighties. Yes, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Carrie Coles and Kajohna Carter one in ninety five, did they?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I don't believe. So maybe shared And.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Anyways, everything's different. Now it's a college football playoff. It's
twelve teams, it'll be twenty four teams soon. The standard
maybe a little bit too high. I know, I know,
you shoot for the moon and if you miss, you're
among the stars. And I know you should set it there,
but when you get turned down by this many guys, humbling,

(27:22):
isn't it Even Matt Campbell's gotta be like, Eh, I
know I wasn't your first choice here, but uh, I'm
gonna do a good job for you.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
No, the good things can come out of this. I mean,
Pete Carroll was like the fifth choice for USC when
nobody wanted that job.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
You could stumble into making the right decision.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You're absolutely higher. And I do think that Matt Campbell
is a good coach. But it's just interesting how they
all this route came about to them making this higher.
So I hope it ends up working out for them.
James Franklin, by the way, I know he hasn't coached
a game yet. He's already cleaning up when it comes
to recruiting into the transfer portal at Virginia Tech.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
So we'll see how thing about Lane kiff in two
a little bit later, because that became official.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
The riding was on the wall.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
We talk about a little bit last week and over
the last couple of weeks, but we'll get into that
later and talk with Petros about it. I'm sure a
little bit of NBA news going on. This is something
I had been talking about, I mean all summer long
on Clippers talk. I've done multiple shows regarding a non Clipper,

(28:20):
just in case this player became available, because he's that
good that you talk about him even before there's real buzz.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Well, you're gonna talk about the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I mean, come on, okay, this was this summer. Well okay, sorry,
speaking of a high bar. We had real expectations going
into this season. Unfortunately, there's six and seventeen. After another loss,
the bar broke, fans swearing at me. Pet's head was.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Trying to do like trying to do a swing on
that bar and just totally collapsed on you. All right.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
We thought it was gonna be Libby Dune on that bar.
I don't know what happened. Uh, but Gianni is dead
at Kompo, as predicted. Is going to ask for a
trade at some point, if he hasn't all ready because
of all these conflicting reports.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Doc River says he hasn't happened. Yeah, Now, Brian Windhorse
is kind of like saying, it's essentially semantics. I mean,
the talks over the summer about the Knicks and the
Bucks and whether or not there will be a trade there.
It sounds as if Johannis went to the Bucks front
office and said, hey, you know, I wouldn't necessarily be
mad if you talk to the Knicks, and if there
was some sort of deal in place, I'd be okay
with that.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
I'm gonna ask it.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
For a trade.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
No one, So he's probably hedging a little bit so
we can all he can say faces I never asked to.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Be traded anywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I just said, if you were going to entertain trade talks,
here's a place that I wouldn't necessarily mind going to.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
What I said this summer was and this was after
he was I think in Israel with the social media
star I show speed.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Sorry, yeah, they had a whole thing. I remember this, Yes,
he said.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Then he was asked about are you gonna stay in Milwaukee,
and he's like probably maybe. He was so noncommittal about
it that you knew this could happen, especially when you
saw the roster and how desperate they were where they
did a sign no no, no, they.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Did a stretch wave for Damian Lillard so they can
free up enough money to sign.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Which has been a dud at this point. Yes, total dud.
They thought that was the replacement for brook Lopez, which a.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Lot of people, by the way, at the time said
it was gonna be a dud. And it was a
desperate move.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
It absolutely reeked of desperation, the stinkiest cologne out there,
and so we all knew it could happen once they
started losing. And the thing I kept saying was they're
going to field calls regardless of what they're saying. Teams
are going to call them. They know it's close. Yeah,

(30:36):
even this past summer. They know there's a chance, and
eventually someone's gonna make a godfather offer.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
And what's gonna happen is.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Because Giannis is a legacy player the front office, if
they like the offer, they're gonna go to the honest
They're gonna say, hey, would you be interested in going
to this destination? And if he signs off on it,
they're good. They're not gonna blindside him. He doesn't have
a no trade call. They're gonna work with him on this.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
They're not gonna pull the Luca ad situation on him
and do it in the middle of the night.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
They will not Okay, it won't be a Blake Griffin situation.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Not here. I don't I can't remember what happened there.
But they're not gonna blindside him. He's a legacy player.
He brought them their first championship in forty years. They're
gonna do this the right way. But they're gonna have
so many teams bidding that surely there will be one
that Giannis is interested in going to. And there were
rumors also, I think it's September about him being interested

(31:30):
in the Knicks because of the flights to Greece and
how much closer it is he might stay out east.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I just know you're more dialed into this one, especially
when it comes to salaries and aprons and all that stuff,
than I am. But I mean, do the Knicks even
have enough assets without actually hurting their the depth of
their roster to bring him in because they don't have
any first round picks. They've traded all their picks from
now until twenty eighty Bridge who is a good player.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
He is, and he's an important part of what they're doing,
and he's always available.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well there's that part too, but without you know, trading
car all Anthony Towns or Josh Hart or guys who
are important to what they do is gonna end up
hurting your roster.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
In your depth town trade form, towns would be included,
you have to be so.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I don't know if that's the exact trade package that
Milwaukee would be looking for to start over. What you
want is a young foundational piece that has real potential
on a high ceiling, and a bunch of first round picks.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Right, that's what you want.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
That's what the OKC thunder got, yeah, from the Clippers
in twenty nineteen. That's best case scenario. Obviously, that's what
they're going to be asking for. But they could go
another route where if Doc Rivers is still there, maybe
he wants to be competitive. They want to still try
to fight to make the playoffs. They want to be
a good team. That's not a great team, but that's
a hard place to be in. However, if you're getting

(32:44):
enough first round picks like that could entice you to
do a move, even if it's not perfect, especially if
Jannis is good with going there, because he's always going
to be attached to the Milwaukee fan base and that franchise.
They want to have a good relationship ship with a
franchise player. Now it's all coming back to the Clippers
over and over again. Now I'm thinking of CP three

(33:06):
and the disaster.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Going on right now.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
They don't want anything like that happening a strained relationship, No.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
They don't so, and I think it's really hard to
try to play both sides of it, to be somewhat
mediocre while also trying to rebuild. I think usually for teams,
they end up turning it around. You're one or the other.
You're at the very top and you're competing for titles,
or you're at the bottom you're getting lottery picks and
you're rebuilding from scratch.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
There's really not much in between.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's hard to stay competitive as a forty five win
team every year and end up building a contender. Now
some would say the Indiana Pacers did that to a degree.
They kind of accumulated talent without totally bottoming out, at
least for multiple seasons. But they also got lucky with

(33:48):
the Sacramento Kings working with them that Halliburton trade.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
They want some.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Bonus, they got Hallie. He ended up being a big
time stealing razor for everybody around him.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
And at the time when that trade was made. Nobody
saw Halliburton turn into the player that he was in Indiana.
They it kind of I don't want to say it
lucked out or whatever, but to a certain.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Degree it did.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Although I did scream many times over Sacramento, cannot do this.
You should not do this. Sabonis has a really low
ceiling because he can't defend the rim, but he has
to be your center because he can't shoot that well either. Yeah,
I was on the right side of history in this
particular instance.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I just make sure that he plays against Anthony Davis
every single game and he'll be a superstar.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Okay, he does own ad We'll give him that.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Oh okay, So.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
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coming up next? It is what stranger than fiction?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
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live among us. It walks among us. That was a
sequel to the creature from the Black Lagoon.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Oh I there's something about me us. I've been caught
worse than an animals. So Kevin, strange to the fiction?
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(35:15):
Adam Auson with you here on Fox Football Saturday.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
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Speaker 2 (35:19):
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it'll be the NFL six pack.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
But for now, let's get to it.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Adam a fast through the customer defending critcision called nine
one one after her McDonald's run out of McNuggets streams.
He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at
EWI because unlike cars, boards just don't have motors.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
They have a mind in their own.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
Strange things begin.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Twenty four year old man now Juessy throwing an alligator
through a drive through window.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
You are STANGEI.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
So I live in Burbank and Glendale area in southern California,
near the La Equestrian Center.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
That's where all the horses are.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's near Griffith Park, so there's trails everywhere. It's really
a ferm goalie situation with Batsy played.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
By Robin Williams. My name it used to wrap Batsy.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
I love it even when at night because my cat
lady neighbor puts out cat food for stray cats.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
It leads, wait, aren't you a cat lady neighbor to
the cat lady.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Cat daddy that's what they call themselves, all right, excuse me.
She puts up the cat food, the stray cats come up.
But it's not just the stray cats that are coming
for it. There's a lot of nocturnal animals out there, coyotes, skunks,
and possums. Maybe even the one that once stalked Fred Rogan. Oh,

(36:45):
I hope so he loves telling that story. Now, you
never heard that it might be after me. Now it
might have even had a baby possum. Because I've seen
a baby possum right at my door. It's possum kingdom there.
One time I was walking outside in sandals late at
night and I stepped on something and I realized it

(37:06):
was a possum.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
In my sandals. About I had one of those.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Type of moments where like, you know, you turn white
with fear and you're falling over like the life Alert.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's like the old comic books where they were cursed,
but they couldn't actually write the words, so it was
just like you know what an ampersand and a number
signed and a bunch of other things.

Speaker 8 (37:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
It was shocking, but it didn't bite me. I didn't
have to get any shots or anything. I think it
was just as scared of me. And I love when
Peter or animal conservationists or marine biologists are like.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
The sharks are more scared of you than you are
of them.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
It's like, it sure seems scared to me when you
took a bite out of my ass, real scared. So
what's the worst thing that happens to them? If I'm scared,
I just stare at them frozen in fear. While the
worst thing that happens to me when they're scared is
they eat me. It's not the same or at least
mall me a little bit. Yeah, they just were taking
a test bite.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah yeah, cool, My memoral artery is rough. I want
to kill you. They just want to take a little taste.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah all right, great, now another animal that could do
that would be a bear. What and apparently, well, I
can stay out of the ocean, I cannot escape the
forest surrounding me.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
By Griffith Park, a smoky came after you too.

Speaker 11 (38:25):
Well.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
A man a little bit northeast of me in Alsadena, California,
had an encounter with a black bear this week that
has been sleeping under his house in a crawl space
where he had a camera installed this summer, and he
picked it up to be a pretty big crawl space.
Guy's name is Ken Johnson, who's he's sixty three. He said, quote,

(38:48):
it's a huge bear, yeah, describing it as tall as
a table and bigger than the trash bins in front
of his house. He said, it's really unnerving because I
don't know if he's going to to tear everything up
under there.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know how to get him out now.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
The reason the bear ended up there is probably because
of the tragedy with the wildfires.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Going on in the area of Alsadena, so they came
down into the neighborhoods when looking for food.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
And such displaced bears. But Ken Johnson he hears the
bear under his floorboards all the time and he's called
local law enforcement after it grounded him. They told him
call the state officials. What But he was eventually directed
to fill a form out online reporting a bear siding.

(39:36):
He checked a box for property damage and wrote, quote,
it's living under my house.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Sorry, my taxpayer dollars going for right? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Apparently California Department of Fishing Wildlife, they're too busy with
other bear situations.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
I guess they're really backed up right now.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It's literally a bear living under a man's house that
could attack him and destroy his house at any time.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So this guy says, quote, the plan is, I'm gonna
buy a bunch of dinner rolls and line them down
the street up to the hole and have some sand
bags ready. When he comes down the street to get
the dinner rolls, I'll throw the sandbags in there, cover
it with pepper spray, and just hope he stays away.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So this is like the old bugs bunny trick or
something where you lure somebody in and they fall into
a hole in the street.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
That's what it is.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah, a manhole. It's looney Tunes, all right. I wonder
you know. I pulled out the laser pointer.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Last night with my cats to get him out of
my bedroom.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
Would a laser pointer work on a bear? You know what,
you should test that out, Adam.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
You should go to that guy's house in Oltadena and
find out.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
It's like a twelve minute drive. Report back to me
and let me know how that goes. If you're able
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Analyst's going to join us talk about the hiring of
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(41:11):
issues going on in college football with coaching and recruiting.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
What about the part snake, part rat.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
You have to talk about that to right, Oh, and
I guess it is championship weekend. I guess we can
talk about football that's actually being played on the field.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
For the love of God, anything happening or like the
top two ranked teams playing or something unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Only sport now maybe the NBA the only sport where
people talk more about what happens off the court, off
the field, et cetera, than what's actually happening.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
All right, dulous, we'll get into it. But right now, Mark,
we know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Time for the NFL six pack.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
All right, six categories. We each go through them here,
starting with.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Hot seed heat check.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
That's right, the kulture player under the most pressure going
into this weekend.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
You want to start, you want me to start here,
I'll start.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I try to tell you all about the Bills we
go and how they redeemed themselves last week in Pittsburgh
and boy did they winning twenty six to seven and
making Aaron Rodgers look like one of the wet bandits
with that picture going around of him with a busted
up nose and a black beanie on postgame with the
caption quote, Aaron Rodgers looked like he tried to rob

(42:28):
Kevin mccallister's house. Someone took it a step further and
had the blowtorch booby traps singing.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
His hair off, making him bald.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well that blow torch and that might be under the
seat of both head coaches in this game in Baltimore
on Sunday, with a loser might get a pancake to
the face or a paint can to the face, I
should say, because this is the early moment of truth.
I know they still have a game left in Pittsburgh

(43:01):
at the end of the season, but this, this is big.
This one is going to separate Pittsburgh and Baltimore because
the winner will be seven and six standing alone at
the top of the AFC North and the loser they're
gonna feel like they stepped on that nail after climbing
up the tar covered stairs only to fall backwards into

(43:22):
the basement like Marv did.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
I was home alone one.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
But John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin they're like the two
turtle doves and home alone two right now birds of
a feather in their current coaching situations, with both feeling
the heat of that hot door knob and home alone
as one of them could be shown the door at
the end of this season, and this game could weigh
heavily on that decision. Now, if I had a guess
who had more pressure on him going into this ball game.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Probably Tomlin.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
No, it's Mike Tomlin, he's been I feel like he's
been feeling the heat at least from Steeler fans for
at least the last five years.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
You know why, because he kept the door open for
the Ravens after going to five in their last seven
games with the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
They made Baltimore believe they could steal the division away
from Pittsburgh after the Steelers started four and one and
the Ravens were one in five. If that's the circumstance
that leads to Mike Tomlin having his first losing season
as a head coach, it's about as pathetic as getting
your ass kicked while trying to rob a house defended
by a ten year old with a pellet gun and

(44:23):
a tarantula. But the web connecting these two coaches is
melting by the seat that continues to warm. And whoever
loses this game, well that loss is gonna sting more
than the after shave hitting McCauley Colster and Kevin mccallister's
face when he finally applied it a thank you, one
of the great screams in film history.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
It is.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yeah, I honestly don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't feel like John Harbo's on the hot seat,
to be honest with you, Mike Tomlin, definitely, this is
year nineteen. I believe for him, we are a long
way removed from just their last playoff win, let alone
their Super Bowl, which he won in his second year
as coach.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Like, it's been a long time beginner's luck.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, and at a certain point, you know, and I'm
not necessarily a fan of like just change for the
sake of making change. But the you can only ride
the we've been have had non losing seasons for however
many straight years. You can only ride that for so
long when the expectation is to compete for championships.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Also, can we remember all the fluky stuff that happened
for them to win that Super Bowl, The crazy catch at.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
The end, all the Sanntonio homes catch, the return touchdown
to end the first Hans Harrison, the interception at the
goal line against Kurt Warner. They really we're fortunate there.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
Yeah, If not for that, he's fired six seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
So because you're talking about him being zer and two
in the Super Bowl, because they lost a few years
later to Green Bay, I'm going with the Philadelphia Eagles
on Monday Night football against the Los Angeles Chargers. And
look if we wind back to pre week one, Remember
we talked to James co about fantasy football and Adam
you asked him about Saquon Barkley and if you would
be fall victim to the two two thousand yard rushing jinks.

(46:00):
James said he looked more at total touches than yards
accumulated and determining whether or not it will affect his
play this year the rule of three to seventy right,
So in twenty twenty four, three hundred and seventy eight
total touches for two thousand, two hundred and eighty three
yards from scrimmage. This season so far, two hundred and
thirty three touches for a total of nine hundred and
ninety nine yards. So his effectiveness has gone down. But

(46:22):
the surprising thing is his amount of touches has gone
down last season twenty three touches per game this year nineteen. Now,
on the surface, you might say for or few are
not that big of a deal, but consider how big
of a home run threat he was for that offense
last season. There was a handful of games last year
where he rushed for one hundred and forty yards, but
seventy of them came on a carry on a breakaway
touchdown on the fourth quarter. For as much as we

(46:44):
talk about aj Brown complaining and being disgruntled about not
getting the ball and making enough plays, which he does, Yeah,
the explosiveness of the Eagles offense last season came on
the backs of their running game, not their pass game.
It was not the classic run the ball to set
up the pass. It was run the ball so you
can keep running the ball and wear teams down. So
when the fourth quarter rolls around, the defense is so tired,

(47:05):
Barkley can break off long game ceiling runs. Yes, and
that just has not happened this season for whatever reason.
A lot of the blame is going to the new
offensive coordinator, Kevin Patulo, who should not have had his
house egged, by the way, be classy and tpe ad
at least all right, well, you gotta break the guys windows.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Was it Halloween or just any Sunday or something?

Speaker 4 (47:24):
No, this is just last week. Philly fans. They're so
p oed with the guy. They actually egged his house.
They doorbell ditchim while they were at it. Ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I'd rather you do that, But unfortunately for him, he's
really the only major variable that's changed. I know they
lost Mackay Beckton to the Chargers, Lane Johnson and Lander
Dickerson on the offensive line have been in and out
with some injuries, but even when the offensive line has
been whole, they still have had issues running the ball
and really in pass protection as well. For whatever reason,
they should bring in Chip Kelly. He knows how to

(47:54):
run the ball, at least unlesson's unless he's in Las Vegas.
I guess he's calling the right with the wrong players
or plays that aren't even play sheet apparently, but that
you had to La Monday night. And this essentially, like
most of them, are going to be a home game
for the road team. Philadelphia packs the house in Los Angeles.
We've seen it for years, so this is not going
to be any different. So now the problem is they

(48:14):
have the exact same record on the home on the
road as they do at the Link, So it's not
there's really working at any advantage one way or the
other for them. But I think this is a scary
spot because they're reeling at the moment. I talked about
their offensive issues, but their defense, which has carried them
this year, has been shredded the last two weeks. The
Cowboys eight their defensive secondary alive in that second half,
and then the following week the Bears had the most

(48:35):
rushing yard as a team since Walter Payton was playing there.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
Who yeah. So the Chargers come in after a win
over the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Which is essentially a bye week at this point, but whatever,
they're riding some momentum.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
The doll broke out and had a huge game on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
It looks like a Marion Hampton is going to be
back in the lineup, so that adds more offensive juice
to them in the backfield. And of course Justin Herbert's
hand is going to be an issue, but not a
major one seeing as it's not his throwing hand. With
the way that Jesse Menzer draws up defense defenses, I
think that this can end up being a nightmare Samario
for the Eagles because with a win, the Eagles would
open up a two game lead over Dallas in the

(49:09):
NFC East, but if they lose, they'd still be hanging
on to just a one game lead over Dallas with
still five games left in the regular season.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Have they lost their identity?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
You mentioned the lack of touches with Saquon Barkley and
all those explosive plays that haven't happened this season. Everything's
just so difficult for them on offense. They've even had
some trouble with some touch pushes.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
They have fumbling the bad Yeah, and I don't And
again you can talk about the offensive coordinator, but generally speaking,
are they now? They're not running the same schemes in
the same plays with the same players for the most part.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I mean, how much could this just be Super Bowl hangover?
Because they did party pretty hard afterwards. Billy knows how
to party.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
It's just possible.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
And like you make multiple deep runs into the postseason,
which they have over the last four years, it can
catch up with you.

Speaker 11 (49:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
It hadn't slowed down Kansas City until now, I guess,
And they've made all these deep runs, so maybe there's
something to that. But something just doesn't seem right. And look,
we can talk about the loss of effective effectiveness for
Saquon Barkley, but the fact that he's just not even
getting as many touches as many opportunities to make plays
is the puzzling part of me.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Look up, Philly fans, you know what you're seeing there.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's the jig.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
The jig is up.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, it's over your gimmicky offense. It's over, baby.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
It looks like it might be.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
I don't know if it's hard to give up on
teams like this because it wasn't like they won on
a fluke last season, because they had been good and
just lost a Super Bowl two years before. They have
been a quality team that has found different ways to win.
And you just don't want to bet against a team
like that. As long as they make the tournament.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
That's the thing they have to. It's just like Kansas City.
They have to find a way to actually make it in,
which I'm confident that they will. Casey, no, no, no,
at Philadelphia. I'll get to Kansas City later in the
six Pact.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Trust me.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
It was our friend get to weigh in on the
on the on X Yeah, bubbah social media, baby, but
Bubba Phillipeah, Well, Philadelphia, I'm fairly confident they're gonna end
up making it in.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
But what happens?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Again, I mentioned that this is a pretty wide open
NFC field where look, the Rams are touted as the
best team of the NFC, and Philadelphia beat him earlier
this year. Despite Philadelphia is a consistency.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
But when they beat him at home last year in
the playoffs, like they had to beat him at home
this year, that's a little bit of a concern because
weather played a factor in that game last year in
the playoffs against I know Matt Stafford still threw for
three hundred yards.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Yeah, and they were knocking on the door of tying
that game, and.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
He was off with the throw to Puka I think
late in the game.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
It wasn't final drive, just a little bit off.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah, almost golf, you could say, with the way he
would miss throws for the Rams.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Oh God, kill me.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
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Speaker 4 (51:56):
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Speaker 2 (52:00):
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Speaker 2 (52:58):
Coming up in about twenty minutes or so, we will
dive back into the NFL six pack. But right now
it is championship weekend in college football. We already have
one team that's punched their ticket to the twelve team playoff,
being Tulane, who beat North Texas in the eight I
was gonna say the AAC they want us to call
the American Championship Conference. Now we can't ever do it
the AAC anymore.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
And it's the British Open all right exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
So have much more of that coming up to preview
what's happening in this coming weekend, as well as talk
about some of these stories, the all field stories, which
has dominated college football pretty much since before the football
season even started. It's not joining one of our favorite guests, Adam.
Let's get to it, Alan Dragan did thank you?

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Donny Well join the show right now.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Is a college football expert who may not have a
Heisman vote or be on the playoff committee, but that
just means he's not a dumbass and would know that
when it comes down to a choice between two teams
with the same record, maybe just go with the team
that won on the field where this man used to
run the rock for USC, back when they didn't complain
about playing Notre Dame. Now that was a privilege as

(53:59):
much a privilege is being mocked by Petros some money
for doing a late night podcast. I should be so lucky,
and we are right now having college football analyst Petros Papadaki.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Is here on F and A on fsr P. What's up.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Good morning? Hello, I mean good evening, I mean yes, hello,
it's morning.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Depending on the side of the country you may be
sitting on right now, it's all good, it's all gooppy
to be here, Thank you, ping, Happy to have you.
So since Adam brought it up, we haven't had a
chance to talk to you about where the committee sits
in their rankings at the moment when it comes to
Miami in Notre Dame. Do you find it interesting that
Miami has the head to head over Notre Dame, yet
they are ranked behind them in the CFP.

Speaker 11 (54:34):
Yeah, and then public reaction like this will flip it
back and we'll see what happens in the games.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But it's all manufactured. I mean, it's the wagging of
the dog.

Speaker 11 (54:46):
It's ESPN that owns the playoff, that owns the twenty
four hours of coverage, that owns the SEC and it's
all just a ridiculous conversation leading up to these games.
And it's interesting because people used to scream and yell

(55:06):
about how if you made the playoff, bigger people weren't
going to argue like they did with the BCS, and
it wouldn't be as fun, but you can totally see
that there's still a lot of arguments and giant fan
bases up in arms. And if the chaos part of
college football is what you like about it, then this

(55:28):
has been a great year. There's no doubt about it.
We haven't talked enough about what happened on I mean,
it's probably ironic because, like you said, what happened on
the field was Miami beat Notre Dame early in the year,
and then Notre Dame had no margin of era for
the rest of the year and had to win out.
But the biggest stories all year long in college football

(55:51):
weren't really on the field related. They were about coaches
getting fired. There about coaches being bought out. They were
about CAA and coaching searches and extensions for coaches and
all of this different stuff that really kind of stole
the headlines from the young people playing. So it's been

(56:13):
an interesting year. But the chaos reigns supreme, as it
always does.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
It's like the NBA, who cares about the actual games?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
But let's like that it's kind of been that way.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Let's say BYU loses to Texas Tech Pe and now
they're right next to one another Notre Dame in Miami.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Could they have a change of heart. Could there be
enough pressure.

Speaker 11 (56:33):
I've seen it happen a bunch of times where the
committee does something all year and then all of a sudden,
public sentiment will be a certain way, and then they'll
switch two teams and everybody will argue about it, and
ESPN will send out an army of proxies like Chris
Fowler and Kirk kurb Street to tell you everything's on
the up and up, and then somebody there will argue

(56:55):
that maybe it's not, and they'll have the argument with
each other, and then they'll put the game on their
own network with their own pregame show, and they're all
represented by the same agency and they own the whole thing.
So it's fine. It's fun to talk about. I'm glad
that the Playoff is thriving. It's fun to have more

(57:16):
games that mean more. As the year goes on, they're
probably going to expand the Playoff because there's more money
to be made and the championships will go away. As
far as the championship games and college football, as we've
talked about, probably needs a stronger governing body than Fox
under the Mask of the Big Ten and vice versa

(57:39):
with ESPEN and the i SEC.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
But that's who's in charge right now. They have made
some steps.

Speaker 11 (57:46):
Revenue sharing on a lot of teams and the SEC
agreeing to play another conference game, and some uniformity is
taking shape closing one of the transfer portals. So there
are some good things happening. But if you enjoy chaos,
then this month is for you well.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
As you brought up earlier, though, it's just very noisy
during the season with all the stuff happening, the coaching changes,
the early signing period was earlier this week. Even though
yes they've shrunk down the transfer portal period to just
one isolated situation, it's still during the college football playoff.
There's still games going on while that's happening. You mentioned
that we're kind of getting a little bit closer to
some uniformity. But when you have all these different conferences

(58:26):
and all these commissioners and all these TV deals, a
lot of different people serving different masters, is there a
way outside of having one giant governing body that we
can hone all this in and just have the focus
be on on the field and they have all the
off field stuff happened after the season ends.

Speaker 11 (58:40):
No, there's not, because the off field stuff drives the
ratings of the infield stuff, on field stuff and all
the shows that are built around it, and everybody trying
to maximize their investment in having the rights to the game. So,
like you said, I don't think when you're talking about universities,

(59:01):
they're all so vastly different.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
That's what makes college football cool.

Speaker 11 (59:06):
The region and the place and the school and the
style of football and the fit they all still matter.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Even in the transfer portal era and the NIL era.
All of that stuff is still evident in the sport.

Speaker 11 (59:22):
So the fact that all of those things kind of
feed into each other, I don't think you're going to
be able. I mean to say that there's some uniformity
is not me saying that things are great. It's an
absolute mess, and that's what you get when the TV
networks are in charge.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
It doesn't run like the NFL. It's not going to
run like the NFL. But if you like the.

Speaker 11 (59:47):
Regional nature of the fan bases and college football, I
would say that that character of the sport has kind
of survived through all of this chaos, and it's fun
to talk about these places like Ole Miss and people
sending out tweets saying, look, it's another episode of as
the Trailer Park turns, and then all the ls screaming,

(01:00:12):
red faced LSU people when Kiffin's private jets shows up
and so on and so forth. So you know, whatever
is happening at Penn State and that fan base is
up in arms, and all the people connected to the
area have been swooped up by either UCLA or re
signed by Nebraska and all that. So it's it's still

(01:00:35):
fun to cover, but there's there's a lot there, and
it's it's everything. It's a whole cauldron of bad and
good like it always has been. And when you talk
about different universities with different sets of rules and constitutions
and really the calendar of how school works, because this

(01:00:56):
is all still wrapped up in institutions of education, you
know you're gonna have a hard time getting everybody on
the same page.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
And that's always been the case.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, we'll get to Lane Kiffin in a second. But
since you brought up Penn State, why did it seem
like nobody wanted that job, or at least so it seems.

Speaker 11 (01:01:13):
Well what they're saying, Well, first of all, it's hard
to James Franklin won a lot, sure did so if
you hire I mean, yeah, he didn't win big games,
and he was probably a bit of an a hole,
which probably didn't help. But and who knows what he
was like behind the scenes. It feels like if somebody
was difficult behind the scenes, then somebody is more apt
at these big schools to come up with a bunch

(01:01:35):
of money and buy them out. It's not like it's
costing the school any money. Somebody ponied up that cash.
It's rumored in this case to be Adidas, I think.
But the thing is is the guy that's replacing him
is going to have to win all the games that
they're supposed to win and beat Ohio State and Michigan too,
and that's the tall order. So and there's the rumors

(01:01:58):
that because James Franklin's a Jimmy Sexton guy, Jimmy Sexton
is making sure that no one else gets that job
and gets extended at their other places and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
So there's a lot of rumors about it.

Speaker 11 (01:02:12):
But but I guess it's because it's going to be
a tough guy to replace, kind of like Nick Saban
and Kaylin de Boor. And then the secondary part of
that is maybe there's some behind the scenes effery going
on keeping him whoever he is, out of that job
and keeping them from having a coach during the signing period,

(01:02:36):
which is got a funny.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Well and p it looks like it's gonna be Matt
Campbell Corn to Bruce Feldman. At least they're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
I like him.

Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
I like him. He's a good coach, and he probably
isn't connected to Jimmy Sexton.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I would guess probably not if that rumor is true.

Speaker 11 (01:02:51):
And I've been trying to get Matt Campbell hired over
on the West Coast for years, so I think it's
a good hire. I don't know if he's going to
win as much as Franklin did, but maybe a breath
of fresh air for everybody in a happy valley, let's hope.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Well, that's the thing, because the ad when he made
the change and he went up in grants that and
to say we're going to bring in a new coach
that's great at recruiting, which Franklin was good at, by
the way, and is gonna win all these big games.
All due respect to Matt Campbell, who we all like
and think he's a good coach. Someone asked him last week,
you know you didn't win the Big Twelve this year.
It was a disappointing season. He says, it wasn't disappointing
to me. That was your expectation, not mine. I just
don't want to be good every single day. You can't

(01:03:25):
sell that to a Penn State fan base that's looking
to compete for championships.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
In the Big Twelve.

Speaker 11 (01:03:29):
No, and Ames Iowa was a different place, and he
turned Iowa, stayed around and made them no longer a walkover,
Like you got to play that game and they might
beat you, and they might dominate you. And he was
very innovative in the world of the Big Twelve. His
defensive coordinator bringing the well A lot of people called

(01:03:49):
it big nickel, but having like one of those big
old's safeties way back but up into the line of
scrimmage immediately as a run support guy. They always had
a great player doing that, and it was very innovative.
A lot of people started doing that in the Big Twelve.
How does all that translate to the Big Ten? I
guess we're going to find out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
So you brought up Lane Kiff in a little bit.
You bring up all the chaos. He is the agent
of chaos.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
What did you make of the way he left and
the propaganda as you were saying on Twitter during the
entire thing.

Speaker 11 (01:04:24):
Well, it's just that everybody's connected. And then they go
on TV and act like they're not. I mean to
be giving somebody advice behind the scenes and then going
on TV like Nick Saban or Herb Street or whatever
and saying that old miss should let this guy coach
even though he's taken another job. That's egregious, that's crazy,

(01:04:45):
and everybody sees it, and nobody really is I guess
that offended by it, or there's just a few and
then they go on their all shows and have an
argument all their own shows and argue with each other
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I guess.

Speaker 11 (01:05:00):
I mean, I don't know what it means, but a
lot of the stuff with Kiffin is I mean, he's shown.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
Everybody what he's like for many many years.

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
This has been the same guy that he was when
I met him in two thousand and one, and circumstances
made him a very hot coach, and he's done some
very good things. I don't think the demand for Kiffin
is relative to how good he really is. I think
the circumstance of the situation has built into a storm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
He's never really won anything. No, all due respect to him,
I mean, but you know, and.

Speaker 11 (01:05:36):
People say, well, logo, look what happened with al Davis.
But you know, al Davis didn't have to do the
overhead thing like he did. USC didn't have to fire
him on a tarmac. They could have just fired him.
You know, that was al Davis. I mean, yeah, Kiffin
probably got himself fired by being himself, but al Davis
created that mythology not laying Kiffin us. He listened to

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a donor and fired and wouldn't let him back in
the office for whatever reason, and created this weird mythology
about that. Now, the other stuff that happened at Tennessee
and all the other chaos around him, you could put
that on him, but that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Way early in his career.

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
Yes, he was being himself and getting himself fired, which
he had done twice in September, which is very hard
to do. But the fact that al Davis gave some
crazy old man rambling speech about probably a bunch of
stuff that was dead right about Kiffin and that USC
fired him on a tarmac for no good reason other
than to create an entire narrative about every time a

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coach loses on the road, he's going to get fired
on the tarmac.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Those other things, they're all vintage Kiffin.

Speaker 11 (01:06:48):
But that stuff that happened way back in the day,
it's just kind of gets lumped in with the rest
of it. But it's not all his fault. And probably
that's the case at Old Miss and LSU too. It's
the agents, it's ESPN, it's all they all these donors,
people involved with millions of dollars that want to be
involved with college football.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
It's all. It's all in the cauldron.

Speaker 11 (01:07:13):
But Lane Kiffin is I don't think it's going to
end pretty at LSU, but they might get something out
of it. We'll see what happens. But I don't I
don't think he's a championship coach, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Do you think it's an interesting decision just because I mean, obviously,
as teams in the playoff, he could win a national championship.
He built this you see signetti staying at Indiana. He
could go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Why a lot of money?

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Sure, why not just build your own legacy, make that LSU.
Wouldn't that be more impressive?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Well, I guess.

Speaker 11 (01:07:48):
I mean, but LSU is pretty is the top of
the ladder for a lot of college football people and
their thoughts and Signetti and Kiffin are very different, I
would say. And Kiffin is constantly moving around and constantly
wearing people out and constantly wearing out his welcome in

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many ways. You don't hear a lot of people weeping
about it in old miss and saying nice things about
him or saying what a man of integrity he was there.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
So I think that all of.

Speaker 11 (01:08:27):
These situations are individual, and you know the sad part
about it. I never feel bad for a guy that
gets tens of millions of dollars to go away, But
I do feel bad about the staffs and their kids
and all these other people that get moved around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
That's not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Petris Papadeka is joining us here on Fox Football Saturday,
Kevin Figures and Adam Alston with you know, we're talking
about the lack of attention that the on field product
is getting behind all of the coaching changes and everything else.
Do you think that there just isn't necessarily a standout player.
When we talk about the Heisman race this year, it's
pretty I would say it's wide open. But you know,
you look up for Anna Mendoza, you look at a
love from Notre Dame, but there's no one who really

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jumps off those the sheet at you as far as
a slam dung Heisman guy. Do you wonder because there's
not giant individual performances or somebody that stands out that
kind of takes away from it this year.

Speaker 11 (01:09:14):
It kind of reminds me of the year that Carson
Palmer had in two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
And two and won the Heisman, where no one really knew.

Speaker 11 (01:09:21):
There was the great running back Larry Johnson, and there
was Dorsey McGahee.

Speaker 5 (01:09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:09:26):
Yeah, Dorsey was the head coach, excuse me, the quarterback
at Miami and they had a great supporting cast around him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
But I remember being.

Speaker 11 (01:09:36):
Close to that USC team and it felt like Carson
was on a Heisman run right to us, even though
no one else in the country was really feeling it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
He ended up winning.

Speaker 11 (01:09:47):
But I think it's probably the same inside Indiana, you know,
inside Notre Dame when it comes to love and so
on and so forth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
So but yeah, You're right.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
Nationally, no one's really grabbed the reins of it because
we're too busy arguing about James Franklin's bald head. So
to me, cookies, yeah, yeah, to me, I think that
it's Ferdie Mendoza. Uh, that that should win it or
will win it, and it'll be a hell.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Of a speech. He's very good with the media.

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
But I love the running back as well, and a
Notre Dame Heisman winner like Tim Brown is always really
cool and creates a lot of mythology.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
So we'll see, uh, we'll see how it shakes out.

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
But no, it's not a year where everybody's really tripping
out about the Heisman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Well, before we let you run, can we actually talk
about some football didn't played on the field this weekend,
you know, championship weekend for the love of God, so
majorly majorly in the Big Ten, because I really think
on paper, like it doesn't really matter who wins the game.
Indiana might care about winning the Big Ten championship and
having a leg up on Ohio State. Ohio State probably
just wants to make sure they make out of it,
you know, healthy. But as far as Mendoza, Julian's saying

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the quarterback for Ohio State's put up some really good nonumbers.
A lot of people think that that might be a
de facto Heisman Trophy square off. Just how do you
view the Indiana versus Ohio State matchup and how motivated
these kids will be to even play in this game
knowing that in the grand scheme it won't really matter.

Speaker 11 (01:11:12):
Well, I mean, I think a conference championship for Indiana
and where they've come from and their past is still meaningful,
and that does bang the question what does it mean
to Ohio State other than the fact that they might
end up playing each other again or the Big Ten
supremacy is a really big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I think it's going to matter. I think the teams are.

Speaker 11 (01:11:33):
Going to take the field and it'll be a pretty
good game, and I'm watching very closely. I think it'll
be a lot of fun. And I think that there'll
be less volume of games obviously with the championship weekend,
and people will come to appreciate it. But as the
playoff grows and as we try to create more uniformity,
it's probably something that will go away. But I think

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obviously Ohio State probably will have the advance in this
game because they're so talented top to bottom and that
they've dominated the whole year. But you could say the
same about Indiana. They've done miraculous things that Kurt Signette's done,
and what he's done has changed the expectations for a
lot of other coaches all around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
So I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
Georgia Obama. Let's say, let's say Alabama gets smoked. B
why you get smoked?

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Is there a chance Miami and Notre Day both get in?

Speaker 11 (01:12:33):
I mean, yeah, I'm sure that whatever the consensus will
be the bunch of athletic directors and their interns eating
at an omelet bar in a four seasons, we'll do
something and somebody's gonna end up getting super buttered about it,
and that's okay. I'll end up playing in a Bowl
game and the world will keep on turning and millions

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and millions of dollars will be circulated and it'll just
keep on happening.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
But yeah, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 11 (01:13:03):
It's very hard to know where these teams are at
as the year goes on. It's even harder when they
have more than a week off. So when you're playing
one week, right after the season's over, feels like a
pretty good gauge of where people are in December. It's
a long time to play, so I think that these

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games will have weight on what the committee does. And
the committee's just a bunch of people like us that
are bending to opinion, and that's why we probably don't
need them, but.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
They're going to make a decision. But yeah, well there'll
be a lot of intrigue, adam for everybody involved.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah, line, I said, it was my last question, but
I just thought of this because USC did get the
number one recruiting class in the country, which is a
pretty big deal. First time since what two thousand and six,
I believe they've done such a thing.

Speaker 11 (01:13:53):
We've been critical two thousand and six, everybody recruited out
of high school.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
Now it's yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Well, my question too, was how big of a deal
is because you can get as many four and five
stars at this point as you want. But I mean,
if those guys aren't playing in year one, they're just
going to leave the next year. So retention is just
as important as recruiting.

Speaker 11 (01:14:08):
Retention is the big word that everybody uses now that
we didn't even use before. That's a bigger deal than recruiting.
And obviously you want to recruit from high school and
develop on your own players, but keeping them if they're
not happy or if somebody's trying to poach your.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Team is not easy either.

Speaker 11 (01:14:27):
I would say having the number one recruiting class back
in two thousand and six is.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
A lot bigger deal than it is now.

Speaker 11 (01:14:33):
And even back in two thousand and six, there was
maybe one or two guys on that class that we're
going to contribute for you as true freshmen, and that's
probably still the case, if not even more, because the
people are striving to stay in college football longer, play
college football, longer, getting exemptions for extra years, JC years,

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all these different things that are happening. Being twenty three
playing college football was really old back when I was playing,
and now it's it's not so freshmen are even less
likely to contribute in the in the transfer portal nil era.
So congratulations to USC and their GM with the number

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one recruiting class. I guess it doesn't mean as much,
but at a place like USC, when they hired a
GM specifically to recruit local talent and keep them in LA,
which is what they did, you could say that that
certainly does deserve celebration.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
Maybe it'll help them be to Oregon and get that
West Coast crown.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Check until they get their own offensive linemen and develop them.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Here's Petros Papadaga's college football expert for Big Fox and
of course Petros and Money Weekdays on a five seventy
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Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Yeah, p s being so cranky yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Oh it's okay, I understand.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
I heard you guys got into it. It's the holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I didn't get into it with anybody. I'm a happy guy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
Thank you, Petey, much appreciated brother. We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 11 (01:16:03):
All right, I'm gonna go get on a zoom with
Chris Paul and Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan's.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Who go all wait for the Instagram story?

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Hell medj see, I could see that happening tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Is CP three duncan on him?

Speaker 7 (01:16:15):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
They lost the game without him? Or do you know
CP three can get up high enough to dunkle anybody?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Oh? Sorry, hey, you remember when he caught Dwight Howard
though back in the day was playing for the Hornets.
That was one of the greatest NBA calls of all time.
I forget who the commentator was, but he was.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Like, come here, right, come guess some of this. Oh
not Dwight Howard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
What's up next? Mark? Trap Game Tap, Kevin you Me,
You You Me, you Me, It was you. It's me
entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Trap Game Tap a favorite who may be in trouble
or facing a trap game. This week, I'm going with
the Seattle Seahawks on the road, taking on the Atlanta Falcons. Now,
before last week's game against the Vikings, I gave Sam
Darnold all the credit in the world for bouncing back
and playing okay against Tennessee in a victory, because you
never know how guys who haven't had a lot of
sustained success in their careers are going to respond to

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poor outings.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Especially guys that said they once were seeing Ghost South
exactly admitting that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
So I placed the emphasis on he played okay against
the Titans, because last week against the Vikings, not so much.
Seattle won going away, but it was because of their defense.
Donald fourteen of sixteen passing just one hundred and twenty
eight yards, no touchdown, and he lost to fumble. You
could say that was because he went up against Brian
Flores and a Vikings defense that saw him all last year.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Sure, why not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
But you could also say that maybe there's a book
on him too, and the other teams have seen that
and they can actually use that against them. The level
of competition, the intensity of games, all that's going to
ramp up now later in the season. And we saw
our Donald played down the stretch last year in these situations.

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
I heard that books titled Sam Donald Soft.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
It could be.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Here's why. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
So now they hit the road, they take on Atlanta.
They're playing out the string at this point in time.
They have nothing to play for other than Raheem Worris
trying to save his job, which I think is very
much in question here at the end of the season.
And if I look out over the horizon on the
seahawks remaining schedule, I'm not gonna call it a gauntlet,
but they will be facing a group of teams that
all have something to play for. After this Sunday, they
host the Colts and Rams and back to back weeks,

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huge games for everybody involved there. Then they finish on
the road against Carolina, who's probably still going to be
in a fight with Tampa for the NFC South, then
on the road against the forty nine ers, and again,
and that could be either the NFC West Championship game,
depending on what happens with the Rams, or nothing else,
a battle for seating or potentially a battle for a
playoff spot in general. So this game in Atlanta has

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I know it's a cupcake, it looks like that on
their schedule, but this is kind of where nut.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
Cutting time begins.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
To steal a phrase from a from a football gods,
if you want to say, is that basically yes?

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
So some we're saying nut up, though some are saying
it's not up to not cutting. Some are saying nut up.
I heard that from Dan Lanning in the fourth quarter
a couple of weeks ago with the Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I haven't heard the time the nut up, but you know,
if it works for Dan Lanning, fine by me works
for me?

Speaker 4 (01:19:36):
Are we letting them hang or are they going up?

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
He's nuts?

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
Well, we have to make sure they get a secure
victory here against Atlanta for what comes ahead. But I
don't know if they'll be able to do that. It's
not fair to them. They don't make their own schedule.
But Seattle a three and two record against teams that
are five hundred are better, which is fine. You'd much
rather be on the plus side than on the minus side.
But that also means they have they have cleaned up
against lower tier competition for the majority of the season.
So that's possibly a good omen as they hit into

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tomorrow's game in Atlanta, or it could serve as a
major letdown game for them as they get ready to
hit what will be a tough home stretch here at
the end of the season, So I know it looks
like this should be a gimme and may I do
the expect them to win, but it will not surprise
me at all if Atlanta makes a bit of a
game of this one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
Plus Atlanta has been funky all season long. It's hard
to get a read on them or beat on them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
In this case.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Now it's easier to get a read on passes from
Kirk Cousins. I guess this is true, and that makes
things a little.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Bit easier for them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
But yeah, I agree, this could be a problem. This
could be a trap game. And by the way, does
anyone have more pressure on them than Sam Darnold because.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Everything else is set up. They're ready. They are if
you play well, they can win a Super Bowl. Or
defense is where it needs to be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
You're able to run the ball, can't you make the
plays that are necessary when it matters most down the
stretch of the season. Coming up next, we will continue
the NFL six Pack here on FSR. You're listening to
Fox Sports Radio Radio well hour of Fox Football Saturday
with FNA.

Speaker 4 (01:21:02):
I'm Kevin Figures.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
He is Adam Allston, you can hit us up on
x at kfig one and at follow Adam A. Coming
up in just a little bit, we'll get into a
college football forecast. We'll talk about the Lane Kiffin situation
transitioning from Old Miss to LSU. We got championship weekend
across college football as well coming up, so we'll get
into that coming up in about twenty minutes or so.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
More NFL six Pack. I got my trap game tap here.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Mark trap game tap.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
You know, because of my friends Pat and Andy. Growing up,
I always viewed the Raiders and Broncos as more of
a rivalry than the Raiders and Chiefs, which I think
is where you stand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
I think the Chiefs are the biggest rival. I was
raised to hate the Chiefs. Okay fair, But.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Because of that, I'm going with this is my trap
game tap. I told you all last week I thought
the Commander's Broncos game could be a good one because
Denver will play down to their opponents since really their
offense just isn't that good to pull away from anyone.
They've already been in a close game with the Raiders,
like I don't know, a month.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Ago, two weeks ago, about a month ago. It was ugly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Now the Broncos are going on the road, this time
to Las Vegas, which is a fortress. They even have
a castle there ex Caliber.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
The Broncos are one in four in Vegas since the
Raiders relocated there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
The Raiders, they even will have two wins at home
this season, or at least one two. No, they got one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
They got two wins on the season and one of
those was at home because they won in Week one
on the road in Foxborough and then they beat the Titans.

Speaker 4 (01:22:39):
That's not easy. I mean beating the Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
You mean their name is the Titans. That's tough, man.
You gotta be a good football team if you're name
of the Titans.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Raiders got that win.

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
I'm looking for a Geno Smith special where he throws
only one pick and has only one loss fumble on
Sunday against Denver.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
Willing to put money on that?

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
Who's money exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
I'll take the over on that turnovers? Hold on, here's
that defense for Gino.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Oh listen to this logic though, when they lost and
only had seven points against Denver a month ago, that
was a completely different offensive coordinator for the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
Gino Smith had his highest completion percentage of the season
last week with Greg Olsen as his offensive coordinator. He
was eighteen of twenty three nineteen of twenty three if
you count the tipped interception down the left sideline.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Sure, he only threw for one hundred and sixty five yards,
but he's been sacked twenty five times the last four games.
That actually should prepare him more for this Broncoast defense.
Plus he already played him. No one is more prepared
for one of the greatest defensive lines we've seen in
modern football than Gino Smith. And I'm sorry, but Bo

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Nicks is still not impressing me. I'll ask the same
question I asked last week. Is there really that much
of a difference between bow Knicks and Marcus Mariota after
what I saw?

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Marcus almost won that game, and they're both Oregon Ducks.
But Bo Knicks, he's been saved by that Denver Broncos defense,
because if you ever had to play against it, we're
looking at like a ten pick game. He's lucky he's
on that team. I'd hate to see what happens in practice.
Could be rough, but I do think it could be

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a trap game for them in Vegas where they have struggled.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
I could see that. I also do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
I think the comparison for me, it's a little bit different,
but I find it's more of t Bow to a degree.
Now he's not been as bad through three quarters of
games like Tebow was and finding ways to win games.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
But Bow knicks, I think has let like five game
winning drives.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
You're right, yeah, so he has whatever quote unquote clutch
gene that you want to call it now for whatever reason,
is not being consistent on a weekend, week out basis
throughout the entirety of the game. But you have a
defense that good with a quarterback that seems to be
able to make plays when it matters most. You know,
they might be able to make some noise and win
some games and make some noise in the postseason when
it matters.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
We'll see like Tebow did once upon a time.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
That's right, all right, want a playoff game against Pittsburgh
Raider is not going to be making noise in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Absolutely not, or next year, next decade, or the year
after that or the year after that, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
Next category mark beer goggles Kate the ugly matchup that
might be entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I am going with the Tennessee Titans versus the Cleveland
Browns just as game presents as ugly as it seems
hard to put a positive spin on two and to
nine verses one and ten. But there are some important
things to watch, Adam, like what okay? Well, above anything,
I think we've reached the self loathing part of the
NFL calendar, where fans of bad teams start looking at
tankathon dot com. You start researching the top five prospects

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in the draft, and this is a place where both
of these franchises know all too well. So if you're
a Titans fan or a Browns fan, you're kind of
looking for the same thing. That's how our rookie quarterbacks
look as good as they possibly can in a losing effort,
so the team can get as good of a draft
pick as possible. So should George Sanders fell back down
under earth last week like most people thought he would,
although I'll be honest, he showed himself decently well at times,

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still held onto the ball way too long, which was
a criticism of his coming out of Colorado. He did
have that ninety yard touchdown drive before the end of
the first half. That was pretty impressive. Now the rest
of the game after that, not so much. But he's
a rookie running out running with the scout team what
three four weeks ago, So I think we can't allow well,
I'm just saying we cannot allow the outsized expectations of
him based on what media types were saying to draft

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our judgment and talking about what he actually is, which
is a rookie fifth round pick who just started taking
starters reps two weeks ago. So, for those of you
who aren't Titans fans and are simply gluttonous for pain
or something like that, if you watch cam Ward at
all this season, I think you can't be all that
displeased with how he's looked. The team was devoid of
many impactful weapons coming into the year. Calvin Ridley was

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their best playmaker. He's been hurt, and even when he
was healthy, he was inconsistent. Their offensive line is ranked
between twenty eighth and thirtieth, depending on what analytic metric
you decide to use, and the current ranking is actually
account for the fact that the line has.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
Improved a lot since the start of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
So what does that tell you? That they've improved and
they're still thirtieth? So that tells you how bad their
offensive line is.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
So when you have two young quarterbacks trying to find
their footing and are playing against poor competition, maybe there's
a part of you as a casual that perks up
a bit and hopes to see some of their talents
on display. I'll also say another thing to watch for
in this game. You know I mentioned how bat the
Titans offensive line is. Guess who they have to line
up against on Sunday, the man who is on the
verge of shattering the NFL sack record.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
You know, this has to be one of the most
underrated stories outside of Oklahoma City. Being twenty and one
and not getting talked about much in sports, this is
the second most underrated story.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Miles Garrett will enter into tomorrow's game with nineteen sacks
on the season. Now, the official league record is twenty
two and a half sacks for a single season that's
shared by Michael Strahan and TJ.

Speaker 5 (01:27:55):
Watt.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Now, the unofficial record, according to Pro Football Focus, is
twenty sacks by Bubba Baker, who did it as a
rookie in nineteen seventy eight, but sacks didn't become He
was a really good player back in the day for
the Vikings, but sacks didn't become an official stat until
nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
So he just missed the cut line on that. Bubba
got screwed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Yes he did.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Wow like Larry Bird, not knowing you could take threes
his rookie here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
So Garrett is on the verge of demolishing the sack
record and considering who he's facing this weekend. Tell me, Adam,
would it surprise you if he accomplished that feat in
this game?

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
I'm expecting it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
I mean, just not out of the Roman possibility. This
guy can rack up three and a half five sacks and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Break the record.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
How about he puts it out of reach in this
game and is up to thirty sacks.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Why the hell not?

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
That alone should be enough for you to tune in
to what otherwise will be a terrible game that we
usually will pawn off on London or some other countries
because nobody here wants to watch it, and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
This does feel like a London Madrid type of games
going on here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
All right, my beer goggles.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Game, You're a has been in a drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
The Rams maybe seven and a half point favorites on
the road against Arizona, but with my beer goggles on,
I see a Rams team that is battered and broken
in mind, spirit, body, everything. After losing to my Panthers
last week Panthers again, that might have been the best

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Panthers win since they beat Arizona in the NFC Championship
to get to the Super Bowl back in twenty fifteen.
When you lose a game to the Panthers like that,
it forever changes you. It's like when Rogue got that
gray streak in her hair from a traumatic experience in
X Men, Like I expect Matt Stafford's beard to look
like Santas right now after what the Panthers did to him.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
He only had two picks on the season. He threw
two picks in that game against.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
Carolina, one in the end zone and one for a
pick six.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
And then what do you do to the end of
the game, bumble?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Yeah, Vegas better of taking the Rams Super Bowl odds
off the board because they can't win it now. After
losing to my Panthers, we ended the Sean McVay, Matthew
Stafford bake Era last week, you'll see, and what's left
of them?

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
I realized you can kill a dynasty with a win
week in a random week twelve game of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
But yet here we are, Well Carolina Panthers, Bill Different
keep pounding what's left of them.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
In LA with the Rams.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
They now have to face the Cardinals. Yes, who may
only have one win since September, but they will have
the power of the Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
Win over the Rams with them. I don't think that's
how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
But all right, the spirit of the Panthers is in
all of us after they won that game against the Rams, like,
we can achieve anything now because of the Panthers can
beat the Rams, who everyone already had raising the Lombardi
Trophy last week. What can't we do in this world?
The only people with limitations Saints fans. They only spirit

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of a Panther one is a spiller of T'Challa. All right,
you're a lot of Panthers.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
Not so much for me. I take it back.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
The Saints can still achieve the number one taking in
the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
That's right, playing for something, all right? That's uh my
draft game? Tap mark?

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
What's next?

Speaker 10 (01:31:13):
Oh my god? Oh my god. Oh I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Yes, the player or team with the epic failed potential
coming up this weekend, and I'm going to go back
to Las Vegas in the game you talked about a
couple of minutes ago at him with the Broncos taking
on the Raiders. So you're probably gonna say this. You're
not because I guess you kind of agree with me
in this notion. But a lot of people are gonna say, Kevin,
you're just a Raider fan. You're shrouded by hatred of
the Broncos while wearing silver and black blinders. Yeah, and

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you know what, that's partially true, but there are some
disturbing trends for this team. As great as they have
been and with as many games as they've won, there
are a few bounces away from being five hundred or worse.
So since demolishing the Cowboys right before Halloween, they've won
four games by a total of nine points.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
This is what bow Knicks had to defend the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
I mean, it is You're right, And look I defended
him a second ago saying that he's had all these
game winning drives. But I mean, if you look at
their season as a whole Seven of their nine wins
have come by four points or less. Four of those
seven wins have come against teams that aren't even sniffing
the playoffs right now. Now, there's two ways to look
at it. You can say they have the clutch geen
like I talked about a minute ago, and they find
ways to win games late, and that's an attribute that

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you need if you're going to have playoff success. You
can look at it the other way and say that
they've eked out so many wins this season against both
good teams and bad teams, and that way of living
in the NFL is just unsustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Kansas City was able to sustain it all of last
season and make it to the Super Bowl. We know
they were eleven to zero and one score games last year,
but they also had the comeback King and the ultimate
finisher and Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
On their side.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
So no disrespect to bow Nicks, but as you talked
about a second ago, he's not on that level. He's
more of a Tim Tebow type, at least at this
point in his career. He's a better player than Tebow,
and I think he's going to end up being a
good starting quarterback. But right now, the inconsistency is just
too much to ignore at this point in time. So
as they get ready to have to Vegas to play
a Raiders team that's playing out the string, I do
think there's potential for an upset. You mentioned earlier the

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ten to seven game on that Thursday night about a
month or so ago, and really Denver only got that
field goal to take a ten to seven lead because
the Raiders had a punt and blocked backed up on
their own end.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Forgot about that. That was literally the only reason.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Why Denver got the field goal to get ten points.
That game goes overtime tied at seven apiece.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
They deserved a loss in that game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Both teams deserve to lose. That should have been a tie,
to be honest with you. So maybe that was a
wake up call for Denver. They took the Raiders lightly,
and that won't happen here because we all know that
they're clearly the better team. But based on their history,
I adventure to say that this is just the DNA
of this Broncos team. Now they still have a month
to continue to refine who they are, and maybe they
look a little bit more formidable when it comes to

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tomorrow in Las Vegas. And as our colleague and former
Bronco eph Salam did tell us, anything can happened in
the Raider Bronco robbery, and I expect this one to
be a nail bier, not because I'm a myopic Raider fan, Adam,
but because that has been the identity of this Bronco
team all season long.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Yeah, they're living on a razor's edge. Eventually you get cut. Yeah,
all right, my ols Troy epic failed potential game. I
guess we're flip flopping here. You just talked about this one.
We both took the Browns to cover last week at
home against the Niners.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
That did not happen, dumb ass.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
I think they were getting five points and they lost
by eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
Five and a half. I believe it was we were
getting five and a half and they lost by eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:34:42):
Shador Sanders did have a more legitimate touchdown pass in
that game where he actually had to push the ball
down the field this time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:49):
Good to see.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
What's funny to me is that was early in the
game they win for two, and going for two that
early in the game, I'm fine with it. If you're
admitted to it. The analytics say do it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
It seems unnecessary to me. By whatever, I'm not gonna
hate on you too hard for well.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
In this case, it's just comical when at the end
of the game you lose by a final score of
twenty six to eight, and it's like, yeah, a good thing.
We went for the two point conversion early on, as
if they thought it was gonna be a close game. Well,
the time that you did it, sure that extra point
is going to be the difference maker. Here they lost
twenty six to eight, So here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:35:25):
It's uh. Now the Browns in a game.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Against the Tennessee Titans on Sunday. This has oh Troy
epic failed potential because how many times are the Browns
ever favored by five points?

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Ever, you could have just ended the sentence with how
many times are the Browns ever favored and just ended there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
I'll take the under. Yeah for uh Shaduur Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
He really needs to help his own cause if you
don't want them to draft a quarterback, win games. So
your pick isn't that good for the brown to be
enticed into taking a quarterback?

Speaker 8 (01:36:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Look good enough to where it's like, hey, we have
a high pick, we can get a receiver to help
you out or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
Right now, there are currently six teams with the same
record or worse than the Cleveland Browns and their three
and nine record. The Titans do have the worst record
in the league at one and eleven, and that one
win was gifted to them by the Arizona Cardinals. A
snap hit Kyler Murray in the face back when he

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was the quarterback, a player intentionally dropped the football before
crossing the goal line like DeShawn Jackson, and they somehow
turned an interception into a fumble into the end zone
for the Titans to fall on. That one win the
Titans got was I think more improbable than the Patriots
twenty eight to three comeback on the Falcons.

Speaker 4 (01:36:48):
I'm not kidding.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
You have to beat this team in play well, Shador,
you need to secure the quarterback job because it's not
just the draft that could try to take it back
from him. The show Watson is likely still going to
be on the team next year. Actually, they're paying him
all that money, he might as well be there, right
They're looking at if they cut him an eighty million

(01:37:10):
dollars dead cap hit. So you're saying that ain't happening. Yeah,
I'm saying there's not a chance. If you want a
happy ending this season with you as the presumptive starter,
you have to what did I have to? Oh I
even notice that?

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
Of course you didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
If you want to be the guy heading into next year,
should or the pressure is on and oh, Troy epic
fail is lurking if you lose this game to the
Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
You think it's possible that Deshaun Watson grass back the
starting role in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Some are saying he's on track to maybe play in
week seventeen or how far do we go now?

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Yeah, yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
It's eight there's eighteen weeks, seventeen games. There's no way
they're bringing him back this season. Yeah, I imagine they
put him in week eighteen. He goes in there and
then he gets hurt and he's out for a full
season again, and you're paying eighty million dollars to not
play again. Now, at least want to bring him back
to training camp healthy next year and see maybe he
does have something in the tank.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Who knows, Create a quarterback competition, push one another, iron
sharpens iron.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
That's probably best case scenario.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
Diamond sent us love. Thank you, Jason, appreciate you listening.
Thanks brother Big Rig Rob says k Fig. You know
who your Raiders need besides a franchise quarterback Mike Tomlin.
He needs a fresh start and would definitely turn the
Raiders around. I wouldn't be mad at that. I could
see that actually makes all the sense in the world
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:27):
A decent fit. Yeah, I wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Mad at that, But then again, I thought Pete Carroll
would be a decent fits.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
All right, Mark, let's dive back into the six pack
under the microscope. All right, the game player team. Everybody
should watch closely this weekend at him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
I have the New York Giants enter the microscope during
the bride week. Okay, I'm watching them as closely as
their linebacker. Abdul Carter was watching porn during a team meeting,
leading to him being disciplined and not playing the first
drive of the game Monday night against the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
He scored three points on that drive.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Over the being benched for a drive or bench for
the game of disciplined the guy, then freaking disciplined the guy.
And by the way, this is the second time this
has happened with abdual Carter, when he missed the meeting
earlier a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Now, the story that he got suspended for getting caught
watching porn because his headphones got disconnected is fake, yes,
but it's funny as hell. And the report was put
out by a parody account of a fake NFL Giants
reporter named Wesley Steinberg. But it got so much traction

(01:40:29):
that Abdual Carter went on social media and made a
real post saying, stop slandering my name, real s and
if you believe.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
That BS, you stupid. If you believe that BS, you stupid? No,
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
I don't want to slander his name, but I am
concerned with what activities Abdua Carter is going to be
up to with all that downtime during the bye week.
Like what if at some point this season Abdual Carter
somehow ends up with the wrist injury. Oh God, God
help social media posts then that could come out that's

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my under the Microso.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
I'm gonna go to on the field for my under
the microscope and go to the Bengals on the field
taking him on Buffalo because last week we talked about
how Joe Burrow gave the Bengals a shot in the
arm with how well he played against Baltimore, and as
I dig a big, big dig a little bit deeper,
if I can speak into the AFC North is shaping up,
I don't think it's crazy at all to think that

(01:41:32):
they might have something to say about this division race
before all is said and done. I know the Bengals
defense has been a sieve all season long, but they
have put in great effort against Baltimore on Thanksgiving Night,
and I will say Baltimore's offense has been a bit
of a mess recently, even in their wins. So I
do think there can be something too to the entire
team getting a lift from the return of the face
of a franchise. I don't think the Bengals are going

(01:41:53):
to turn into the Steel Curtain overnight or anything like that,
but I do believe they can drive some inspiration from
knowing that they have an offense that legitimately score thirty
plus points in a game. So I'm placing Cincinnati under
the microscope here because if they can beat Buffalo, there's
absolutely a path to the AFC North title for them.
The first major factor they have to win out there's
no margin for error. That alone makes it a long shot.

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But look at Pittsburgh and Baltimore and what's left for them.
Steelers in Baltimore played the other twice, so the Steelers
have Baltimore twice. I should say then the Dolphins, Browns,
and Lions, based on how inconsistent Pittsburgh has been in
all the noise around that team with Aaron Rodgers call
and got receivers, I don't know that I can say
that any of their remaining games are layups, per se
no and then with Baltimore, obviously they have Pittsburgh twice,

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the Bengals one more time, Patriots, Packers, so not an
easy roled at all. So if the Ravens and Steelers
split their two matchups, they would at least have they
would each at least have seven losses for each of them.
The Bengals play Baltimore again, like I said, a second time,
if they win that game, that's eight losses for Baltimore,
which is the same amount of losses the Bengals have.
Right now, it's all moved to the Bengals don't beat

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the Bills this week, but based on off Buffalo has
looked this season, would have surprised any of us if
they lost his game and Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Burrow lit them up. No very inconsistent.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
So I know it's a very long shot, but keep
your eyes on the Cincinnati team here in the final
month of the season, because they could find themselves here
in the next three weeks knocking on the door of
a playoff spot in winning the AFC North if things
go their way.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
And I don't look even worse for saying they shouldn't
have brought back Joe Burrow?

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
Mark? Final category here?

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Redemption round.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
We were worried about the Colts last week against the
Texans and how they had a realistic chance of backsliding
and losing the division, and that's why we had them
on the hot seat, both of us. Well, now they
got to redeem themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
So if they want to.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Hold on to the AFC South and they're in Jacksonville,
I hope Daniel Jones can drag his broken leg around
like Greg Jennings and Madden enough to be strong enough
to make throws down the field like we saw throughout
most of the season, because.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
This thing could fall apart in a hurry. They're tied
with the Jags.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
At eight and four and the Texans, Yeah, they could
lose in case c this weekend, whoever wins between the
Colts and Jags could have a game lead on the
loser and be two games up on the Texans. The
Colts are slight favorites. I think they win, but if
they don't and the Texans win in Kansas City, the

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Colts would actually be third in the divisions right, just
like that?

Speaker 4 (01:44:22):
I insane? Is that considering where they were a month ago?

Speaker 3 (01:44:24):
Now? It really is Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of
the Crystal School type of situation for Daniel Jones. And
by the way, how many people remember that the full
title is in the Kingdom of the Crystal School. We're
always just like Indian Jones and the Crystal School. I
didn't remember that part, to be honest, I totally forgot.
We wouldn't dare giving it enough respect, no, to actually

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give the full title. Spec that's my redemption round the Colts.
They should redeem themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
They need to. We'll see, all right, Kansas City needs redemption.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
That's who my redemption round's going to as they take
on Houston, like you mentioned a second ago. I know
I said the Chiefs wouldn't win the division this year,
but ever did I think that at this point in
the season, we'll be sitting here talking about whether or
not they will be able to make the postseason.

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
Yeah, that's where they find themselves right now.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
And the interesting thing is, if you look at all
their raw numbers, it's not like they're glaringly bad. They're
in the top ten in every meaningful offensive and defensive category.
It's just kind of been one of those years for them.
I will say their defense has experienced some major slippage
these past couple of weeks, especially. They've lost three of
their last four and allowed four hundred yards are close
to it in all of them. The only game where
the defense was stout was against the Colts, who were

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at the nature of their season, like you just talked about,
and have a quarterback playing on one leg. So here
comes Houston who's won four straight. The defense is dominating.
The offense actually moved the ball really well against the
Colts last week. They just had some untimely penalties in
the first half that stemied a couple of drives. So
this is the classic case of two teams headed in
opposite directions. But I'll keep saying it. It's still Andy

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Reid and Patrick Mahomes. This combination doesn't know what it's
like to be in a situation like this. They're typically
just in get healthy mode. At this point in time,
we're in the playoffs. That's going to cruise control, make
sure we're healthy, get ready for the tournament. So maybe
it's misguided because when it comes to this team, I
kind of feel like one of those people who says
I won't pick this team to miss the playoffs until
I see it. Like people will say I won't pick

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the Browns to win the Super Bowl until.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
They actually do it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
That's kind of where I am when I come when
it comes to the Kansas City Chiefs and missing the postseason,
I feel like that's where I am with him right now,
even though if you look at everything on paper, it
doesn't make sense too. They're two starting to and left
tackle or tackles are out, their backup tackle is out,
and they're playing against one of the best defensive front
of the entire league. Mahomes is going to be running
for his life, but they're at home, they're in prime
time that absolutely have to win this game. I cannot

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pick against Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes in a situation
like this as much as I would love to.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
All Right, that's a good redemption round Kansas City and
beating the Texans. They're favored by three and a half,
I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:46:50):
Why would I know something like that?

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Oh, we got two on two off coming up, but
not yet our college football forecast.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Yeah, college football forecast.

Speaker 4 (01:47:02):
All right, Kevin, what do you want to start? Big ten,
Big twelve?

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
The Big ten is interesting to me because the game
is essentially meaningless. We talked about we talked to Petros
Papaeca's about this last hour. You have the one and
two ranked teams in the country playing against each other.
They're both undefeated. Whoever loses this game unless they get
absolutely run off of the field, If this game is
even a ten point game or something like that, I
don't think either of these teams falls out of the

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top four.

Speaker 4 (01:47:27):
I still think they end up getting a bye week.
So ultimately, what does it really matter? Probably not that much.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
From an individual player standpoint, I do think it's big
for Julian sand and Fernando Mendoza Souse. Those two guys
are neck and neck when it comes to the Heisman race,
along with you know, Julian Love at Notre Dame who
has no more data points. He's done playing games until
the playoff begins. So it's big for that reason, I
do think, and a Petros emphasize this as well. It's
big for Indiana because for that program to say that
they won a Big Ten championship and they did it

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by beating Ohio State in the Big Ten title game,
it will be big for them. But for Ohio State,
they didn't win the Big Ten championship last year and
they won the national championship.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
So what difference does it make.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
I think Indiana could win close and they'll just flip flop.
Indiana will be number one, Ohio State will be number two.

Speaker 4 (01:48:12):
Possible, Yeah, I think that's likely.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
Georgia could beat Bama and that could still happen. It
could still be in the number three spot. If it's
a close, hard fought game and it looks like I
test wise, these are the two best teams in the country,
it really does.

Speaker 2 (01:48:25):
I think Ohio State ultimately ends up winning because I mean,
both of these teams, if you look at the numbers,
there are number one or number two in the conference
and honestly in the country in many categories. But talent
ultimately wins out. Ohio State just has so many top
ten draft picks on this roster it's ridiculous. It would
not surprise me if Indiana won. But if I had
to make an official pick, I do think Ohio State
ends up winning it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
Who do you like between Mendoza and saying for the Heisman?

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
I kind of like Mendoza. What Hurt's saying is he
doesn't have a moment. The problem is his team has
been so good he hasn't needed one, and that shouldn't
be used against him, but it will be for Nana.
The Mendoza has the pick six against Oregon, coming back
and leading a game winning drive against them, and he
has the game winning drive against Penn State to put
this put in his back pocket. So I think Fernanda

(01:49:10):
Mendoza kind of has the upper hand when it comes
to that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
All right, I'll go Georgia Obama. Number three Georgia versus
number nine Alabama. This is interesting because Bama beat them
yep on the road. Kirby Smart is one and seven
versus Bama. It's not a Nick Saban thing, It's a
Bama thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Honestly, it would not surprise me if the same thing happened.
Now this is also desperation mode to Alabama. This is
a playoff game for them. They get three losses, they
ain't getting in, so they need to win. Georgia's already again.
They know that for a fact, whether they win or lose.
But obviously you want to be able to get an
SEC championship on your ledger if you can. If you're
Georgia Alabama. We talked about this the first time they played.
Alabama's weakness offensive line. One of Georgia's defensive weaknesses they

(01:49:54):
can't rush the passer, and Alabama ty Simpson lit them up.
They were thirteen of nineteen on third downs. Ty Simpson
had a great game, especially in the first half against
the Georgia secondary. I really haven't seen much to think
that that's gonna play out differently in this game.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
I'm gonna say this, I think Bama could lose close
and still get in.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Ooh, okay, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
With three losses, they've already beat Georgia.

Speaker 4 (01:50:18):
If it's a competitive game where.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
They lose on a late field goal or something like that,
I'm not gonna hold that against them. If I think
Georgia is the number three team and they barely lose
to them when they've already beaten them.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
I think they could hold their spot as ninth.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
People are gonna go back and and hold them to
their loss to Florida State in Week one, and say,
can I justify keeping if we're arguing about two loss
teams like look, BYU, who's probably gonna end up losing
again to Texas Tech, but a two loss BYU, who's
only two losses, or to the fourth team in the
country in Texas Tech, who might move up depending what
depending what happens in the Indiana Ohio State game, are

(01:50:52):
you gonna hope that against them? The argument between Notre
Dame and Miami, those two loss teams, I feel like
Notre Dame Miami, those are the two that will benefit
or Miami more than anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
Nor Dame's kind of solidly in at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
So if Alabama loses, I think that that's a big
feather in the cap for anybody that's a fan of
a Miami for them to potentially get in as an
at large with two losses.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
I still think if BYU loses, they're out, and therefore
Miami and Notre Dame could be right next to one another. Yeah,
and once the committee sees them as the tenth and
eleventh best teams, they might have to make Miami jump
Notre Dame. Because when we were talking about this a
month ago, when they had Notre Dame ahead of them

(01:51:35):
by six or seven spots, whatever it was, and they
both had two losses.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
That's different.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
If they're right next to each other and they both
have two losses and you think they're that close talent wise,
and they played a damn game and Miami beat them,
I don't know how you don't put them in front. Yeah,
and I know how, but I really I don't that
would push the committee to have to make that DECI
and I don't know if they could live with themselves

(01:52:02):
if they didn't let Miami jump in front of Notre Dame.

Speaker 4 (01:52:05):
Like that's such a bad precedent. It'd be ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
And I honestly, you can argue for it, and it
would make sense, Adam, if Georgia were to beat Alabama
or you know, in a very close situation, a game
winning field goal at the time expired. I really just
can't see the committee, even though it's the SEC, picking
a three loss team, even if it's an SEC team
over a two loss team out of the ACC or
somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:52:25):
But just look at it this way.

Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
Okay, we know the top ten, it's eleven and twelve
that are problematic. Yeah, because conference group of six. So
if Alabama loses close being ranked number ninth, and then
let's say BYU loses to Texas Tech, yep, likely, why
can't Why can't Alabama end up tenth? And maybe you

(01:52:51):
move I don't know, Notre Dame in front of them
or Miami in front of them, and they still get.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
In because I do think that they value wins and losses.
And so the third loss on Alabama's ledger versus a
two loss Notre Dame, a two loss BYU, a two
loss Miami.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
But they're playing an extra game against a great team.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
By the way, that's works in their favor to a
certain degree that those other teams don't have to to
help them out.

Speaker 4 (01:53:14):
Yeah situations.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
I thought they also don't want to hold it against them.
A loss in a championship game against teams that aren't
even playing there.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Well, here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I don't know what they want to do or not,
because it seems to change on a weekend week out
basis when it comes to this committee, Well, this was
going off of historically speaking, going back to the obviously
this is only the second year of the twelve team,
going back to the fourth team. Third, teams with three
losses generally are just not making it unless there's utter chaos.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
Well, I would say it would be a pretty unique
third loss. One, it needs to be close.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Two.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
They already beat that team.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
Three, it's the SEC Championship and the other teams around
them aren't playing another game. I think it would be
a pretty interesting third loss.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Yeah, I don't disagree. I'm just telling you right now,
they're not putting them in with three losses.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
It's not happening, all right. They happening. So that's how
ends upshaking.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
And by the way, when it comes to the ACC
Duke in Virginia, I know people want the chaos theory.
If Duke beats Virginia, Duke with five losses probably not
going to be ranked. So that would open the door
for James Madison to make it in as the second
group of five team to make it over the a
SEC champion. It would not surprise me at all if
Duke won. If they found a way to get Duke
into the playoff. I still think that they're being part

(01:54:25):
of a Power four conference means something and it wouldn't
be fair to James Madison.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
But that's nevertheless how it shakes out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
I don't see Duke beating Virginia. Virginia ran them off
the field earlier this year, and I think they do
it again.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
I definitely count them out in this game. I probably shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
But what chance do you give BYU to beat Texas
Tech if they lost you twenty nine to seven earlier
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Not much because BYU has to be able to run
the ball to be able to win.

Speaker 4 (01:54:47):
They have to get LJ. Martin off, and LJ.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Martin couldn't do anything against that Texas Tech run defense,
which is one of the best run defenses in the
entire nation. What BYU does Texas Tech does better stopping
the RUNU cannot run the ball, they cannot win. I
like bear Bachmeyer, He's not gonna draw back forty times
and light you up.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
He can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
So this is just a bad matchup for BYU unfortunately,
so I don't see it happening.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
All right, thoughts on Lane Kippin.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
It really sucks to be honest with you, especially the
way that all play it well a lot of it,
and we don't have enough time to get deep enough
into it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:22):
I feel badly for the people at Old Miss.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
I understand trying to take an opportunity to go to
a dream job or a marquee job. But we talked
about it last week when we were still kind of
talking about whether or not he was gonna leave. You
have a chance to win national championship, a national championship
at Old Miss. Why can't you build on top of
what you've already built. You don't have to piss everybody
off in Oxford. You have a chance to win and
build your own legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Why not do that?

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Make Ole Miss the new LSU. Now one thing that
I don't know if it's not funny to Old Miss fans.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
I know that, But somebody sent out a tweet on
Friday that LSU got five top five Recraft five five
star recruits that they signed to their class, which was
more than Lane Kiffin signed his entire tenure at Old Miss,
and Lane Kiffin retweeted it and said, hashtag built different.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
So little sounds in the wound on the way out
of the door from Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
I know nothing different from him looking for the next
best job once again. Coming up next two on two
off our NFL picks, He's Kevin Figures. I'm at a Moslems.
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Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Fairly alarmed.

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
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Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
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Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Hard Mark, before we get out of here, you know
what you gotta do?

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Two on two are.

Speaker 4 (01:57:00):
So the update is this. We both went two and
two last week. Shocker. It's like an eighth week in
the row that we've gotten to. We've gone to and two.
So the standings.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Have me at twenty five and twenty seven on the season.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
What is that about? Your Panthers are at them.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
There you go, Oh, because your cats make your picks,
don't they that they had good pooll Mark?

Speaker 4 (01:57:22):
That's right. They haven't made my picks for months. Maybe
they should. Maybe you get over five hundred at that
point if you did. Kevin is at twenty eight and
twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
I'm just saying, Joe Klatt, I'm pretty sure he didn't
announce what happened with his picks last week.

Speaker 4 (01:57:39):
Oh, he'll tell you something, kept it in his back pocket.

Speaker 8 (01:57:42):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
I didn't see him say give the update on how
his college football picks win.

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
He was like five games under five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
All right, So twoon means two picks we make on
two favorites this week, Kevin, you want to give me
a favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins are three
point favorites over the je coming off of their bye week.
That's right, Miami Dolphins have been playing much better. It
looks like Mike McDaniel has gotten the vote of confidence.
He will return. I think as most people thought that
he would at this point in time. Devon Han has
turned a corner, has turned into a really dynamic offensive
playmaker for them.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
And the Jets are the Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
So I like the Dolphins getting three points, getting being
a three point favorites over the Jets.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
All right, I'm going against something I said earlier. I
guess okay, I think I said this could be a
trap game, But I don't really believe that. The Rams
minus eight and a half on the road against the Cardinals.
The Rams got to bounce back after what my Panthers
did to them.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
You really need to against the down troten Arizona team,
who I will say I've played better with a new
quarterback in there, especially now like Kyler Murray's out.

Speaker 4 (01:58:46):
For the remainder of the season. Yeah, he's done.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
So Brissett's been. Now, the team hasn't won, but Brissett's
been much better. Well that completion record, he said, game
there you go in a loss. Still another on from you,
Buccaneers eight and a half point, faiait's over Breeze Saints.
I'm so sorry, Bree, Buccaneers. Hey, like, if they're in
the playoff chase right now, Bree, they don't have time
to mess around here. All right, they got some good news.
Mike Evans practice window opened up. I thought he was

(01:59:09):
done for the season. He might return to the team
here pretty soon, so that'll give him a bit of
a boost. So I like the Bucks eight and a
half point favorites over the Saints.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
I'm going the Seahawks minus seven on the road against
the Falcons, just because I talked myself into it when
I mentioned that Kirk Cousins is still their quarterback, and yeah,
what's he going to do against that defense?

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
Probably throwing at least one interception? Right, at least better
be more than one.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
Well, I just say, at least passes it to the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
Now are offs games that were picking on the underdog with.

Speaker 4 (01:59:41):
Right right where I'm going to go to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:59:44):
I talked about this earlier in the show with the
Eagles and how much they've been struggling. I am taking
the Chargers as two and a half point underdogs at
home against Philadelphia. I think the Chargers get a shot
in the arm by the return of Amrio on Hampton,
and even despite the injury to Justin Herbert's left hand
with the surgery earlier this week, I think they find
a way to pull off the victory against Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
We're getting close to the end here. Yep, I might
have to make some drastic moves. Okay, well, and that
means going against Kevin, we run out of time. Give
me the New York Jets plus three against your Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (02:00:14):
Okay, my Miami Dolphins. Sounds good to me.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
My off is the Colts one and a half point
favorites over the Jacksonville Jaguars. Colts have not won in
Jacksonville since twenty fourteen. I am taking the Colts as
one and a half are the Jaguars, I should say,
as one a half point dogs against Indianapolis?

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
I also got the Minnesota Vikings plus one at home
against the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Oh really okay, even with Jayden and Daniels back in
the lineup, but going with Minnesota, huh.

Speaker 4 (02:00:41):
Waby he's back, Yes he is. Get out of here.
What I'm sticking with? It sounds good to me. Project
to Al coming up next on FSR. Talk to you
next week.

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