FnA with Kevin Figgers & Adam Auslund discuss the NFL Schedule release, NBA playoffs overview, and the College football playoff expansion!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
That's right. It is fn A on FSR, Fox Sports Saturday.
Kevin Figures back in the mix with my guy, Adam Auslin. Adam,
thanks for holding it down last week.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I tried. I did my best.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
You did it well.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
You know, we got a lot of new features on
this show and uh hopefully less solo episodes here, but
we got a lot of features and a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
You and Brien as you like to do. You gave
a lot of crap.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
It's so funny. Okay, Anyway I heard I wouldn't hear,
but I definitely heard it. Well, we had a good
show last week, but it ain't f n A without
Kevin Figures here. In fact, because you're back, why don't
we play it.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Kevin Pat O'Brien inspired Kevin Figures theme there.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
You go.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Appreciate it. Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Deep got a lot to get into tonight, a lot
to get into and tonight show got a guy. Obviously,
he's an NBA playoff update, got a game seven on
our hands coming up this weekend. Obviously, we have a
conference final that has now set, one that most of
us probably saw coming early in the season. Anyway, So
we'll get into that NFL schedule release talk coming up
here sooner rather than later, twenty fourteen, expansion in college

(01:17):
football potentially on the horizon.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
You know what else we got tonight, the return of
Rap News. Whole album has a clear, crisp sound.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Why so is it a melding of two because with
the return of Rap News, we also have the return
of Mark Medina. When we talk about Eminem, So is that?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Is that what it is? Is it is Mark Medina's
segment coming up in the midnight hour slash three AM
hour on the East Coast?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Is that our rap News segment? Well, Mark Medina is
an Eminem officionado and historian.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I don't know where he's at with his knowledge about
Drake or Iceman because you know, he likes to be
called Iceman now because Iceman and the X Men his
name was Bobby Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's really actually.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm guessing that's why he's doing this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Okay, So is he gonna get into a dispute with
George Gervin like Caleb Williams did?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
So?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Now is Drake now also roped into the discussion as
to who the real iceman is.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
It's a three way tag team lawsuit over who the
real iceman is. That's what we're going with right now.
But we will. I do have a review of all
three Drake albums that dropped last night. We'll do that
in Rap News at the very end of this hour.
Maybe I'll even rope in some of my Mortal Kombat
two review that I was gonna do until Drake, you know,

(02:33):
upended everything.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
But you're better than me.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I had no desire to listen to a single track,
but that is me, so wise man. Okay, So there's
a little preview of rap News right there. It's forty
three tracks. Kevin Na.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm good. I think I had this this long standing.
We had this discussion when Rap News was a regular
staple on the old f and a podcast. If there's
an album that drops and there's more than like fourteen
tracks and automatically not listening.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
To it, this was like, I'm out my Vietnam going
through this. It was bad. It was rough. I had.
I don't know Yeoman's work. Maybe I do it for
the show.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You get owned by Kendrick. The with that you got owned,
maybe more of a soft landing don't come at when
we with fifty tracks. The next time you actually do
show up, you know what, I'm coming out of your
cave there, Drake.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
How about instead of three albums, just put out one
album that's a third as good as Take Care, which
is the only real Drake album I ever listened to.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, all right, that will
be nice. But we digress. We'll get more into that
coming up in Rap News at the end of the hour.
But first off, you gotta get into the NFL schedule release.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Let's go time.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
That's wrong now.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I know you were waiting with baited breath Adham on
Thursday morning. I couldn't wait, you know, waiting all day
for a Sunday night the carry Underwood. We writing all
day for Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
We're waiting all day for Thursday night, for the drop
of the epic NFL schedule release drop.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I gotta give you the Beastie boys there. Actually, I
was kind of excited because it's snuck up on them
for once. Is I'm so intrend You're the one in
the tookest of the NBA playoffs right now that I
didn't know what's coming.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, the NFL and Jonas Knox, our colleague here at
Foss Rido talks about this like the NFL can dominate.
The NFL can drop a press release on Friday afternoon
that the schedule release is coming up the following Thursday,
and that became headline news bigger than NBA playoff games,
Stanley Cup playoff games. The NFL schedule release is coming
up in five days. The countdown is on.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
I like, how you don't even mention bigger than Major
League Baseball because I just assumed, of course, that's just
you know, may baseball come on? Well, where do you
want to start here? Because I do think there are
some interesting matchups right away in week one, almost like
we should be doing our NFL six fac to begin.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, before I get to the matchups, I want to
get into the pumping circumstances just surrounding the schedule release
in general, because over these last couple of years, you know,
it's become a tradition unlike any other, maybe even better
than the Masters. The schedule these videos then all of
the individual teams put up on their social media accounts.
The Chargers have been notorious over the last couple of

(05:08):
seasons and I would say this year they didn't disappoint
yet again. The Chargers the only team, the only one
that took a shot at Danon Russini and Mike Rabel,
however subtle.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
However subtle. It was a shot, but it was a shot.
It was a shot during their Halo NFL schedule reveal, which.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Was pretty pretty epic.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I would say they win the schedule reveal super Bowl
every year.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
And now, by the way, a lot of New England
Patriot fans let them know that on social media.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, so it's so funny. Yeah, you guys have lost
us in the playoffs. So did the Rams in their
schedule reveal video where they came Napoleon Dynamite. The Chargers
are a certification award for best schedule reveal. Ever, you win.
Way to go, keep charging. I don't know if you
watched all thirty two of them. I watched most of
them on Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
So, are there were there any of them that stuck
out for you? Because there was a couple for me?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Okay, I think maybe at the top for me. And
I can't believe I'm saying this because typically I don't
think this guy is very funny. I'm so confused that
I thought this was humorous that I don't even know
if this was the guy I'm thinking it was because
he looks older, he's got a beard now. But Rob
Wriggle made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
The Chief Scheduling reveals with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, the ninety sixcom or whatever it was called it
the qv Chiefs Shopping Network or he and his ex
wife are the commercial. Yeah, and they're taking not so
subtle digs at one another the entire time.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
It was pretty entening. I like this the Indianapolis Colts now. Also,
it's a ringer for me because I grew up watching
The Simpsons as a kid and that show is still
going on, which is unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (06:48):
Boots Boots, Boyts, Boyds, Boyds boys.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
But I feel like I probably stopped watching religiously fifteen
years ago, and beyond that, it's still going. It's been
going on for like forty years or something. And I'm
only exaggerating slightly.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
No, you're right, and it was good for the first
like twenty years.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yah, I woulday, I would agree, it kind of went downhill,
but they, you know, keep on going and you keep
having people are still watching, So why they'll stop it,
but they didn't. Indianapolis coach doing the opening scene. Then
once they get into every single schedule or every single opponent,
they take a clip from individual Simpson episodes to highlight
that opponent. It was actually very well done. Yeah, that
was probably It wasn't necessarily quote unquote funny. H in

(07:23):
parts it was, but I thought that was a really
really clever respect.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
For whoever was combing through the desert there to find
all those clips that associated well with whatever team they
were playing that week. Right, Heck, that was some desert stuff.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh, they were also in it near and dear to
our hearts because we also have, you know, video game
news that we do. Yes, was the Cleveland Browns and
they're owed to the old nineteen nineties the street Fighter
arcade situation.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
That was pretty great. That was pretty solid because it
was a basically lampooning of the old promo video for
Street Fighter two back in the day, with the guys
just hyping it up to the n degree and just
being like, it's spectacular, it's tubular. You guys gotta play
this game. This is so rad.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Let's go corny.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Had effective corny, but effective unlike the Cleveland Browns corny part.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah effect that part uh funny because it wasn't funny,
I guess. And the Detroit Lion's really trying to show
like they stick to business.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
It was literally just Matt or excuse me, Dan Campbell
walking around the office, sitting in his chair, time to
get to work, and just literally post a paper of
the schedule on top of on top of a board.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
I guess they're saying, we don't have time to do
a fancy, slick little video for you guys to promote
our schedule. We're getting ready to play some football out.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
There, all right, okay wherever you say, coach.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, maybe a little bit too serious for a team
that may be regressing, but we'll see.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I still I still don't necessarily agree to that, but
I will say, uh, their schedule works out interestingly, and
there's been like around Like I saw our colleague Colin
Cowherd say this on our Friday morning and I caught
only a piece of it, but he was talking about
the Charges and like, oh, the NFL masterminded this schedule.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Oh, they've frontloaded some easy games for the.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Chargers to bake up some wins and they're gonna have
some more competitive games down the stretch. And I'm like,
you really think the NFL is sitting there when they're
putting the schedules together thinking about who has it easier
early on and where we can schedule some cupcakes for
somebody and they can make it more difficult in the
middle of the season. They're literally thinking about two things logistics,
YEP and TV ratings.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, that is all they give a damn about.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
They don't care about how tough or how easier schedule
is in September versus November. We're trying to put the
best games in front of the most eyes as possible
while also trying to be as fair as possible to
every team when it comes to their travel distance, travel,
road games, home games, international schedules. That's all they care about.
They don't give a rip about who's playing who and win.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
So you're saying it's just a coincidence we get a
Super Bowl rematch in week one, Kevin, where the New
England Patriots going to the West Side to take on
the Seattle Seahawks all the way west here not in.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
The least bit of coincidence. Again, eyeballs, it's a Super
Bowl rematch. That's what people want to see.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It's twofold, yeah, eyeballs. It's logistics, it's planning around concerts
and everybody who's coming to town.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, for all these stadiums that are available or not
available for certain dates. If you're looking at the Los
Angeles and so far, you ask to house two teams,
you know, the Jets and met Life. I did with
the Giants housing two teams. So all these logistics are
things that need to be worked out. I heard an
interview with Mike North, not Fox Sports Radio Alow in
Chicago radio legend Mike North, but Mike North, who's in
charge of the NFL and their logistics in their schedule making.

(10:40):
Talking about this, he says their goal is to put
the most compelling games in the most advantageous TV windows
while also trying to be as fair to every team
that's out there, and that is what their job is.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I think they did a pretty good job as that.
Actually for the most.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Part, Yes, there are some quirks there. Like we mentioned
the Detroit Lions. So you realize the Detroit Lions, three
of their last four games in the regular season are
on the road against their division opponents, and the other
game is against the Giants, who probably are going to
be at worst fighting for a wildcard spot down the
stretch of the season.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So Arba has his way that they can stay healthy
and if the concussion protocol, blue tent guy actually stays
out of it for once.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And then also for Detroit, they played three games in
twelve days. They played the Patriots in Munich, come home
against Tampa that following Sunday, and then on a short
week they host the Bears on Thanksgiving. That's three potential
playoff teams that they have to play in a twelve
day stretch, all right, So I don't think, but I
don't think the league diet that to them intentionally. It
just happened to work out that way to their detriment.
They do and we can talk about this too if

(11:40):
you want. But have the easiest schedule based on last
year's final records. Now that held true for the New
England Patriots. They had, I believe, coming into last year,
the third easiest schedule, and it ended up being the
easiest schedule in the NFL by the by the end
of the season, and it ended.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Up being the easiest schedule since the nineteen ninety nine Rams.
I believe it was historically light and they tiptoed through
the tulips and were able to make it all the
way to the Super Bowl and had some things go
their way, and they got a little bit of luck
along the way. I actually think the Patriots are cooked,
like they are, yeah, screwed. I don't think, oh, they
won't be losing as a team.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's not a hot take. I even think even if
and when they trade for aj Brown, I still don't
think that they're necessarily the class of the I think
the AFC is actually pretty wide open this year.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Have you seen the Patriots first four games. It's the
toughest first four games since nineteen eighty six anybody's had
to play, because all four teams won ten games the
year before. So we talked about them going to Seattle,
of course, then Pittsburgh at home. All right, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I don't know who the quarterback is gonna be in
that situation.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Who is playing quarterback there? I'm not so sure.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Then it's by the way, bleep or get off the pot.
Aaron Rodgers, I'm tired of this. Are you gonna he's
gonna He's gonna meet in Pittsburgh. He's not gonna meet
what the hell is ever meet about? The general managers
the same it's ay hey, coach he played for for
twelve years in Green Bay. There's nothing to meet. Are
you playing or are you not?

Speaker 3 (12:58):
He's in a darknesser tree. Okay, I don't get I'm
I'm tired of all this. Aaron Rodgers play or don't play?
Sign or don't sign? After Pallsburg and maybe Aaron Rodgers,
then they go to Jacksonville and then Buffalo. Those are
the first four games for the New England Patriots. I'm
thinking no, no, no, I'm thinking one and three. Okay,

(13:21):
one and three.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm gonna mark this tape when they come back. Four
and oh and I want to see what Adam says.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
Four.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
No, Kevin cav On, I'll eat my Patriots hat that
I don't actually own it old the case.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I will buy a Patriots hat for you to eat
right here on Fox Sports Radio and live on our
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
YouTube page, so everybody can see. Why don't you buy
me some of the Spygate film? And I'll actually pull
it out and start chooing on Roger Goodell already ate that,
so you don't have to worry. That's right.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
They burned it up, that film machine all burned it
ate on its own.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
How about this? Yes, speaking of screwed the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
By the way, before you move on, the Jacksonville Jaguars.
The their schedule release video, which featured Trevor Lawrence sporting
a nice short haircut Lie Giant, they revealed on Friday Night.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I knew it. It was like that one time Anthony
Davis took care of his exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, no, he's still the long locks of Samson are
still there for Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Okay, So that schedule revealed double sucks because I didn't
think it was that great to begin with or that interesting,
and it wasn't even true that it was a good story.
Here's a good story. But anyway, Jacksonville, Yes, Jacksonville for
two months. I think from the end of September till
like the start of November. They have one home game

(14:38):
during that stretch two months. I'm guessing there's a buy
in there. I think there's two trips across the Pond,
maybe New York for them. Yeah, it makes sense. I
know there's nine international games, and they're trying to move
Jacksonville to Europe is for a long time.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
And I mean if I feel like, despite the fact
that they're revamping their stadium, I feel like that's been
something that's been in motion for the past eight nine years.
They have been more than willing to go over, which
honestly is kind of smart. The problem is they haven't
been able to win enough. But if they have enough
games in England, especially if you start winning, you kind
of build your brand as being like England's team, So
it was smart marketing. They just haven't been able to

(15:13):
win the football games.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
For it to matter. No, they were somewhat there last year.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah they broke through a little bit.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah they had a playoff game, they lost Sportals won
a couple of playoff games. But there are some real
issues going on right now in the NFL with the scheduling,
including the Bears getting the toughest schedule right now. Unlike
the Patriots, who obviously have ramped up the competition this year,
I actually think the Bears can still succeed. So the

(15:43):
last nine teams with the hardest strength of schedule failed
to win a playoff game right not failed to make
the playoffs, failed to win a playoff game, so there's
a difference there. The last team that did do that
was the Falcons ten years ago. Okay, twenty sixteen Falcons.
But this Bear schedule is no joke. However, I just

(16:07):
have faith in Big Ben Johnson, that's all. And we'll
have the same quarterback.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
I will say. I mean, they're playing in one of
the toughest divisions in the entire sport, so you have
that working against you. In Chicago, I think they're gonna
make strides moving forward, but I also think I don't.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I think Detroit's gonna be right back up there.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I know they had a bit of a down year
last year for their standards, the way they've played the
last couple of years.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
They have so much talent. They're not going anywhere. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Minnesota I think is gonna be better with Kyler Murray,
with koc As they had coach, and see exactly what
that offense in there and that squad does. So I
can see that as a division that really beat beats
each other up throughout the entire season.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Drive down records that way, right, You only need ten
wins maybe to win the division. You can go ten
and seven.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Okay, nine, maybe I can see it.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
Nine.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Okay, the Browns have the easiest schedule. Well, whatever that matters.
The Chiefs last season, Okay, last season obviously didn't go
way and Patrick Mahomes got her at the end of
the season and that was that was light in the
world on fire when he was playing. They weren't check
out their late season schedule this year. From Week twelve

(17:11):
to Week seventeen, Bill's on Thanksgiving. Great Thanksgiving game up
the Thanksgiving slate is ridiculous. This is the first time
two former MVPs are facing each other quarterbacks in a
Thanksgiving game. Oh, with Mahomes and Josh Allen. That's a
hell of a stat there, Man Bills on Thanksgiving. Then
the Rams, Bengals, Patriots, Niners, Chargers, Raiders Week eighteen, so

(17:35):
that was a nice cupcake. The Raiders suck, But that
is a really tough Week twelve to seventeen, about six
week stretch there that they're going to have to navigate.
And by the way, they open up against the Denver Broncos,
who I think also could take a step back, and
we're wondering are either quarterback going to be available for

(17:55):
week one or how are they going to look between
bow Knicks and Mahomes.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's interesting because I think Kansas City potentially takes a
step back. I think Denver can take a step forward.
I think, especially now. It depends on the health obviously
of bo Knicks, but coming in under Sean Payton in
year three in that offense, you know, their numbers definitely
were up and down a lot last year, but clutch
numbers were spectacular. They make it to the super Bowl

(18:20):
if he's healthy. I'm thoroughly convinced that they beat the Patriots.
Of boon Nicks is in there, their defense is not
going anywhere, They're going to be better offensively, So I
think Denver's a team that takes a step forward. Kansas
City lost a lot on defense, still question marks offensively
for them.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
So they's had two surgeries on that ankle. You're right,
a super secret when we just found out about from
Adam Schefter. You are right, You are right.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
But I still like the talent around him, and I
think that running game is going to be improved this
season too. I think that even if bow Knicks is
the same as he was last season, I think they
can go another level offensively as a team.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
But how many one score games did they win last
year where he came through in the clutch of the
fourth quarter. We saw how that went for Kansas City
last year after two years ago they won all the
one score games and then it went against them.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I look, I don't disagree. I think they've but
I think they've made strives to actually improve their roster
this year, where Kansas City has kind of stayed the same,
So I think Denver has actually improved.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
They claddeal.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, I think Kansas City is kind of just kind
of stuck in the mud to a certain degree. They've
lost both their starting corners. I have all the faith
in the world in Spags. He's been great, and they've
turned over that defensive roster multiple times and still won.
But the Chargers are still on the come. The Raiders
haven't proved enough to where they could play spoiler at
pat points in the AFC West, So I think that's
going to be an intriguing division this year too.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I think Week one of the NFL schedule could be
one of the best Week ones we've ever seen. Kansas
City against the Chargers, Dallas against Philly, Tampa Bay against Atlanta. Okay,
don't care so much about that. But Chicago Minnesota on
Monday Night? Is it going to happen again with Big
Ben Johnson screwing things up for block management at the

(19:50):
end of that game. But there are some really good
games to start off this season. Okay, wait a second,
I was looking at last season, you dumb mess. I
was wondering there for a second. This sounds very early
familiar here. I'm telling you guys, there's good games this
year in twenty twenty six, starting with New England going
to Seattle because the Super Bowl champs have to raise

(20:12):
the banner. Congrats to them again. And I just see
New England completely falling off a cliff this year. I
agree with you, and I'm sorry Bill Simon that shit in.
It's here about it either and Ellen will be it is.

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Speaker 3 (21:48):
Coming up Drake Iceman review, I don't I did it man,
so you don't have to. It's just so you can
be pyro.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
The Iceman is George Garvin. Yeah, yeah, be Pyro. How
about that be the blob for something. You know, I'm
gonna burn his album to the crown. I'm gonna melt
the ice is what's going to happen here. I'd rather
listen to ice size beer.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
There was a there was a Marvel villain, an X
Men villain named Banshee. You know, that's what it sounds
like when Drake wraps to me, do a little bit
of scary well, thank you? Yeah, basically, okay, it's not
mar from home alone. Some screaming happened a little bit
in Cleveland earlier tonight when the Cavaliers had a chance
to close out the series.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Screaming came from Bob Schmidt. Yeah, and his parents all
in a couple of high octaves. He went to soprano
last night last night for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Now, Bob Schmidt, I did text him voice of Fox
Sports Radio Box Schmitt, And I wasn't trying to be
a smart ass, but I said, didn't the game what happened?

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
You were.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
But then I said, then I said, you know, let
me know your analysis on this and what happened here? Bob?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
All right, So can you actually read his response on
the air without getting us fired. Is the question.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Bob is basically a Cleveland Cavaliers inside man.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
No even Cavaliers stand Okay.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
He has his own Fear of Defro podcast and I
think you know he has some really good analysis. He
said Game six dawn tonight, they just swarmed us. Thompson
was amazing. Duran and Reed cooked inside finally benched for Calves. Basically,
No showed Doran and Reed before Doran, I mean actually
showed up to the playoffs fifteen eleven. They o an
obligatory welcome to the Innbury playoffs.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Jered Duran after doing nothing. But they the Cavaliers should
own them in the front court. That is why they
have those two big money bigs up front. That is
why they have Jared Allen.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
You know, sometimes the lights are a little bit brighter
than you think.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
And people have been saying this about Mobile and Allen
for the last three postseasons. Now, like these guys for
whatever reason can't figure it out, can't get it done well.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
And it's not just them now.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
No, because I'll give this and I've been one of
Donovan Mitchell's biggest supporters throughout the postseason because He's played
extremely well, even in losing efforts at times, whether in
Utah or even in Cleveland. Bro this series, he ain't
getting it done. And I heard him after the game.
Someone asked about him struggling from the field. He was like,
I've been shooting pretty well in this series other than tonight.
I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said, and I'm like, Donovan,

(24:12):
with all due respects, that ain't true. Other than game
was a Game four where I think he shot over
fifty percent from the field. He's shooting about forty percent
from two and about twenty eight thirty percent from three
for the series, the.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Last two games specifically, now in games five and six,
he's thirteen of thirty eight from the floor. That's thirty
four percent. Three of fourteen from three that's twenty one percent.
He's a minus twenty nine out there. And I said
this to Bob Schmidt when they got James Harden, and
I said this, going into this series, you know, I
worry that.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Welcome a guy from the Clippers. Is that what it was?

Speaker 3 (24:47):
She said, You're welcome. Instead of iron sharpening iron, they
are doling each other's blades out there, So.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Are you saying that James Harden is making so his
playoff bows are now rubbing off on Donovan Mitchell and
they already have their issues with Alan and Mobley and
their playoff looes. So all the three of their powers
combined is basically just dragging down of a Mitchell down
into the depths with them.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Their powers combined into the most unclutch player named negative
Captain America or Captain Planet like it is, it's a
it's awful to watch now. James Harden was decent in
this game. And I know you can say he had
more turnovers than made shots, but that's also because he
shot ten pre throws in the game, so he didn't
get up his made shots because they kept fouling him.

(25:31):
He was solid in the game tonight, but they the
reason were lost, and I'll say that there was a
lack of intensity in urgency and the Pistons played desperate.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
How can you have a lack of intensity and the
urgency in a closeout game at home for the chance
to go to the conference finals.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's a culture issue.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Uh yeah, what chabails me about heads but potentially rolling
like I don't know if Kenny Atkinson gets it, but
somebody does. If they don't find a way to come
back and win this game seven in Detroit, something's changing.
Akins is getting the acts, Jared Allen's getting traded there.
I'm not going to trade Mobile, He's too young and
still on the ascent. But something is going to change.
For last season having the best record in the Eastern

(26:06):
Conference in getting ousted, and then this year, yes, they
were kind of up and down, but based on all
this postseason played out, the thought was they were going
to be able.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
To make it past De Troy.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not easily, but you thought they would win this game
in six and go on to face the Knicks in
the conference.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Fine, you can't trust the Calves. They can't be trusted.
James Harden can't be trusted, and Donovan Mitchell can't be trusted.
If your top two players have playoff issues. In our
playoff droppers at times, this is what's going to happen.
I think I may have seen my favorite play though
of the postseason, and it happened in around the six
and a half in mark of the fourth quarter where

(26:40):
James Harden shamelessly flopped on a three pointer where he
kicked his legs out so far that the refs didn't
fall for it. They're down by I think fourteen at
this point. The sweat and perspiration that he left on
the floor a possession later led to I think it
was one of the white guys. Dean Waid was gonna

(27:01):
be one of the white guys. It's such a racist.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
What do you have against white guys playing in the NBA?

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Adam, I have nothing against the two on the Charles
Barkin thinks Max Truse's dreaming. I did hear that that
was pretty funny. This is pretty is Tom Brady to him.
But the perspiration left by the flop from James Harden
had Dean Wade slip on an inbounds play on that
spot on the floor, on that wet spot, leading to

(27:32):
a turnover in a Tobias Harris breakaway dunk that was
basically the dagger.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Now, is that on James Harden flopping or is that
on the court crew for not actually mopping up the sweat.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
I don't think there was time.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
There's enough time to the way those guys sprint on
the floor and do it.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It's masterful.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
You tell me those guys don't quick enough get in
and wipe up that sweat.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
You would need one of those tarfs that they use
on a baseball field during a rain delay. Not a
perspiration I saw from James Giants squeegee things whatever they're called. Yeah,
I get the sham wow out there. Get that guy.
You follow me here, Cameron guy. So I got choked
out by the hooker.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
So we're going back to Detroit four Game seven. And look,
Detroit been in this situation. They were in this situation
against Orlando, and I found the way came back from
what twenty four down to win that game six, and
they came back in won game seven. So right, So,
and the thing is they're not playoff tested. Anything Detroit
did in this postseason, despite the fact they were the
one seed his house money because nobody's fencing the Gidi

(28:23):
or anyway. And they look like the veterans team that's
been through it. James Harden has been to the conference finals,
been to the NBA Finals. The Cavaliers at least have
made it, you know, to the playoffs the last couple
of years with this generally the same unit intact, and
they're the ones who look like they don't have the experience. Well,
so going back to Detroit. How do you see Game
seven going on Sunday afternoon or Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Do you remember what I said about Game seven and
how it was going to go against Orlando or I guaranteed,
garantee to Detroit win.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
I guarantee it.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Same thing time soon. This was the Cavs opportunity. They
blew it. They're not gonna win now going to Detroit.
If they do, I'd love to see it. I'm rooting
for James hard and I'm still a fan. I like
Donovan Mitchell. I think it would be an interesting series
between them and the Knicks, but.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Kind of think it will be a better series between
them and the next To be honest.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
With you, yeah, I just I've been kind of down
the Pistons for a bit here, thinking they're a regular
season team, but nobody's knocking them out when they've had
the opportunity here now. One of the big storylines coming
into the game was the refs, Was the officials? Was
the free throw disparity? In games four and five, the
Calves took seventy two free throws the Pistons thirty two. JB. Bickerstaff,

(29:30):
former Calves coach, was chewing out the officials routinely post game,
and there was a curious h non call at the
end of Game five with the sar Thompson. It looked
like he got fould with about a second left.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't know. I honestly didn't think that that was much.
I thought it was two guys who were kind of
going for a loose ball. I was okay with the
no call there. I didn't think it was as controversial
as people tried to make it out to.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Me, And the two minute report said it wasn't a foul.
Not that that always matters, but in this case, I
think it was the right non call here now and
also got pushed.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I've seen that be called the foul in the past,
but the fact that it was a non call, I
was okay with it.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
Well.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was interested to see, Hey, Pistons win this game handily.
They must have got all the calls tonight, right yea, oh,
no Calves twenty eight free throws Piston's eighteenth tonight. Piston
still won big. Yeah, so I think the series is over.
The Pistons have more ways to beat them. Their defense
was suffocating, but you know, I give the Calves much
more of a chance than Orlando winning in Game seven

(30:24):
after blowing at twenty four point lead at home in
Game six. But still it's gonna be tough before we break.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Can we spend just a couple of minutes because that's
pretty much is all that's needed in the Western Conference
semi final that wrapped up, and look, we kind of
all saw this coming. And really the only life that
Minnesota had is when Wimby didn't play or Winby got
himself ejected from a game. Pretty much whenever he was
on the floor, it was total domination. When he was
off the flour, Minnesota was a little bit better, but
there are even times don't and I don't know what
in Amalgam what the numbers were when Wimby was off

(30:50):
the four versus when he was, But I still feel
that San Antonio pretty much held their own when Wimby.
Even wh Wimby wasn't on the floor, they didn't Minnesota
to win this series had to dominate the non Wimby
minutes and they didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
They had to hammer them, and Rudy Gobert was pretty
ineffective throughout the three series. I said it heading in,
but I felt like Minnesota beating the Denver Nuggets was
kind of their championship and they were running out of
gas also because guys are just injured and more injured,
but did start in game one of this series. Somehow
was able to give it a go and they won
that first game, and they looked like the more poised,

(31:21):
tougher team out there. But the talent has risen to
the top. The cream rises to the top, and San
Antonio comes at you in waves. And oh, by the way,
Julius Randall has had an awful series and tonight well
playing against Wimbiyo, do that to you. He and Rudy
Gobert in an elimination game at home combined for three
points on one of twelve shooting.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
You're getting You're giving Rudy Gobert too much credit, all
three points once to Julius Randall.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Nobert didn't get a squad nothing. Julius rand that he
only had a couple of rebounds. Yeah, had three rebounds.
They tried to pair him up against Luke Cornett instead
of going up against Wemby to see if they could
win the match up that way. But it was a
bad series for him after what he did against Jokichen.
Maybe he was just spent. But now San Antonio takes

(32:09):
on OKAC in the Western Conference Finals. We thought this
was a distinct possibility, I said back in December. Actually
this was on Christmas December twenty fifth, I said, we
thought maybe the Spurs didn't need Fox after getting the
good fortune in the draft to get Dylan Harper. But
it turns out they stumbled into the perfect way to
match up against OKC with all the elite ball handlers
coming at the Thunder's great point of attack defense in waves.

(32:33):
And that's really what it's been throughout the regular season,
with them winning I think three or four games against
the Thunder. San Antonio is ready for this test, especially
if JDub is still hurt.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, and all those guys are ascending. Cassel's better than
he was early in the season when they played all
those games. Harper coming off the bench has been spectacular.
I mean, Mintion dieron Fox. Like the veteran people are
kind of saying, like, oh, do they need to trade
him away? Does he fit? I think he's actually a
great complimentary piece to what they've built, because even when
Wemby's not on the all these guys have all this
confidence and Stefan Cassell is a bulldog. And if he's

(33:04):
making threes like he made on Friday night, I think
it was five of seven from ever he's making his
outside shot. Yeah, lookout. This guy's already on the ascent
to being one of the best players in the league
in the next couple of years.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
I mean he and Wimby, along with uh Dylan Harper,
who does not look like a rookie, not in the
loose bit and is not scared. They got boys.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
The way that Oklahoma City played against the Lakers, negatively,
I don't think they looked all that great. And the
way San Antonio has looked, I got to be honest
with you, I might take San Antonio and the Western
Conference finals at this I just might do it.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
To me, it's close enough that if Jay Dubb is
not close to one hundred percent or missing games, they're
in deep trouble against San Antonio. Agree, I'm at a
maslin He's Kevin figures. This is FNA on Fox Sports
Radio coming up next. We got that Drake Iceman review
for you. Why, because that's why this is FNA on FSR.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's right, it is fn A on f SR Broadcasting
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up in
about ten minutes or so, Fox Sports Radio NBA insider
Mark Medina gonna talk about one conference final on the
horizon coming up on Tuesday. Another conference finals still waiting

(34:17):
in the weed is we have a game seven coming
up on Sunday in an Eastern Conference semi. So we'll
talk NBA with our guy Mark Medina coming up in
about ten minutes here on FSR.

Speaker 11 (34:24):
But right now, all right, counce the virtues of a
machine that automatically a wife or girl line.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
Generation.

Speaker 12 (34:46):
Believe it, though going through our job, I would never
winch death on nobody.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
You know what I'm say because they know coming back
from that, this is an artist called Eminem spelled F
because he's a white guy.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Chris Brown is accused of assault and battery.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
So I was actually gonna do a Mortal Kombat two
review and talk about how disappointing that was and how
it felt short or fell short of my expectations. Shocker,
it didn't fall as far as the pit, but maybe
it fell as far as like you're going into the acid.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Was it worse than the original Street Fighter?

Speaker 3 (35:29):
H No, nothing's worse than that, and nothing's as bad
as whoever played camming Julia. Of course, yes, they had
the perfect guy to play Johnny Cage in Carl Urban,
and you just had him saying the same line over
and over again. Johnny effing Cage as he's trying to
get his mojo back is a washed up, burnout former

(35:52):
action star. But the joke got repetitive quickly and was
like a never ending punch of the balls from Johnny Cage.
The movie just had no heart. It's like cano ripped
it all out. Why even do a video game movie
if the story is actually gonna be thinner than the
plot is in the video game itself.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Most of them, though, that isn't the problem.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Shout Khan has an ambulet and they have to break
it or else he becomes invincible, and then they're gonna
lose the tournament and the Earth realm forever. Like I
know we are watching.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Was it the original way that Mortal Kombat was supposed
to work?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
But okay, like it is, it's just could you flesh
it out a little bit? More so to speak, it
was supposed to be about us, like winning us being
what outworld, an inner world or whatever the hell it
was called Earth and Earth or whatever and fighting winning
ten in a row, battles to save out world or
something like that. Ultimately, we're watching for some good fights, right,
but even those felt uninspired. I know it's about the fatalities,

(36:51):
but I didn't think the movie would be that lifeless.
Did Shang Sung suck the soul out of the entire franchise?

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Like?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Meanwhile, Drake probably thinks he has soul with all that
singing and calls himself the six God and probably thinks
he's raiding or Iceman in this case, because you know,
Bobby Drake is the name of Iceman. Drake's real name though,
Aubrey Aubrey Plaza. Now, I'm not a huge Drake fan,
but uh, I like some of the bangers. God's plan okay,

(37:25):
non stop back to back. Sure, nice for what best
I ever had? Zero to one hundred, But lately for me,
Drake's gone from one hundred to zero. You start from
the top and now you're here you fell off?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Now has he been tainted at all based on the
fact that Kendrick Lamar essentially owned.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Him, Well, Kendrick got him pretty good, not like us,
but his last album got himself pretty good because it
was called Sexy Songs for you or some sexy songs
for you.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Okay, before that, it was for all the dogs before that,
her loss certified, lover Boy, none of this stuff is
all your file certified. I'd say, I haven't heard anything
decent since his album Scorpion.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I did not know how sharp his tongue was, or
his spear for being Scorpion, and how lyrically advanced he
can be at times, and how clever his lines are.
And people want to talk about that on the new
album with the song make Them Pay. But if your
flow sucks and you just drone on and on and
there's no passion or emotion or expression when you're saying

(38:30):
flipping dough like little Caesars, it's a fine line, whatever
envy me like Nevada. It's a fine line, but it's
got no punch, like Jacks without his robot arms. But
Drake thought his pen was mighty year, I guess, and
the ink was flowing well enough for him not just
to release one album Iceman, but three last night.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Quantity over quality one is too much. Half the songs
have huge beat switch ups. Where they sound like two
songs in one so instead of forty three songs, it
feels closer to sixty one, but they aren't sixty one
home runs like Roger Merris, Mario Mendoza thinks Drake could
drop a few more hits or singles, you know, songs
worthy of radio play for their catchiness like he used

(39:13):
to embodied by a singing rapper. Is what he wants,
He's got it. I'm zipping myself up in the body
bag Keavin. I bled out through my ears, I'm colder
than Iceman Now I'm just I'm so long gone. Listening
to this triple tag team midoff between the three albums
he put out last night, eminem once said, you ain't

(39:35):
gonna sell two copies if you press a double album. Well,
I hope Drake doesn't sell three copies from this triple
album because I just don't give an f.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Did he take a shot of Lebron in one of
these songs too? I heard I think so says something
about like, you know, you keep switching teams and I
state the same, and you ain't twenty three. There was
like a Jordan reference in there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I'll say this it starts off, okay, this song make
them cry a solid but an inferior version of over
My Dead Body from Take Care Say the second track
Dusty is okay. Then they all start to sound the
same because of how monotone he is, and they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Say it's about Drake for fifteen years old.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You were right there, we're saying day one about Drake.
They got one called too Hard for the Radio, which
has this tone switch up, which I actually do like
if you can make it to a minute thirty. When
he starts rapping about Steph it's ice cold for a second.
The song Don't Worry near the end of the Iceman
album actually has a semblance of a melody and is
kind of cool sonically. The Aramake album titled I Don't

(40:31):
Know One habib T is one long skip. It's not
me P, it's not an ELP, it's an ls It's
one long skip. Then he's got a song Princess, which
might be the best song, but it's the last song
on the last album Made of Honors, so you have
to get through forty two tracks to get to it.
That's a lot of our princesses in another castle. Basically,
it's whack. Yeah, thank you, you know what you did?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Everybody hear a service, Adam, Adam, listen to all of
Drake's trash albums so you don't have to.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Mark Medina coming up next fn A on FSR.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
That's why we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports
Radio studios. Kevin Figures, that is me, Adam Ausland, that
is he I K fig one is where you can
find me on X at follow Adam A is where
you can find Adam on X as well. Coming up
later this hour, college football playoff expansion in the news.
Are we going to be expanding to twenty four teams?
And is that the best thing for the sport of

(41:22):
college football? We'll talk about that coming up a little
bit later this hour, but right now, Adam, what did happen?

Speaker 13 (41:27):
Alan?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Dragan did?

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Thank you? Donny Well, Drake had to put out three
albums in one night. This guy's probably been on Fox
Sports Radio more than three times in the last twenty
four hours. It is our friend Mark Medina at Mark
g Underscore Madina, NBA reporter, analyst, an expert here who

(41:49):
knows quality over quantity, but also if you can do both,
why not? Yeah, if you got it show off. So Mark,
thanks for doing this once again here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 13 (41:58):
Yeah, thanks for having me. I guess, like Drake, we're
gonna throw some shots at Lebron, did I right?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Okay? Was it that big of a shot? I mean,
there was a lot to unpack with three albums and
forty three songs, and I did skim through all forty
three and just reviewed it in the last segment. A
big Drake fan, Mark.

Speaker 13 (42:17):
I'll be honest, I'm not. I definitely took Kendrick Lamars's
side with.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
The that's right, as you should, as you should, I
just yeah, I just can't believe how mid all three
albums are. The first one is the best one ice Man,
and the other two we're doa.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Before since you brought you, since you mentioned Lebron James
there Mark, of course, all the speculation as to what
his future holds with the Lakers. Before we get into that,
they talk about what David Minhiman wrote for earlier this
week about an issue with Lebron and whether or not
he felt underappreciated by the organization because they didn't give
him credit for picking up the most wins in NBA

(42:54):
history from an individual player. In the stat they praised
JJ Reddick. Did you have you gotten a sense in
people you've talked to that there was ever a rift
between Lebron and the Laker organization and early in the
season and whether it was mended, and just your general
thoughts and what you know about the Lebron James and
the inner workings of his relationship with the Laker organization
and how that can affect whether or not he comes
back next season.

Speaker 13 (43:15):
Yeah. Well, first, the annex that Dave McManaman reported, it's real,
but its rich Paul stress on his podcasts. It's more
of an annoyance than something that threw him off the
deep end. I think it represent a bigger picture that Frankly,
ever since the Russell Westbrook trade went down, there's been

(43:36):
a disconnect between the Lakers front office and Lebron James
and people around him. And the reason is, you know,
from the Lakers' front office point of view, they feel
like Lebron put on a lot of undue pressure for
them to get Russell Westbrook after they had already you know,
gotten basically officially done with getting Buddy healed in a trade.

(43:57):
And from Lebron James' perspective, it was about, hey, like
Russ has been talking to Anthony Davis and me, I've
talked with Damian Lillard and DeMar Derosen as well, like,
here's another voice and want to make you aware that
he's interested in one of the Lakers. And so from
his point of view, it was about, you know, as
the star player, just making the front office aware that

(44:19):
Ross is available and do what you see fit. And
you know, it's always the front office job to weigh
any feedback and make decisions that they agree with or not.
And so since then, outside of obviously the Lakers drafting
Browny James, which was, you know, a favor to Lebron,
Lebron Is and his folks will say that they've made

(44:41):
a point to not share what they think the front
office should do other than hey, do whatever you need
to do to help maximize our chances of you know,
winning a championship, only because they fear that if any
move backfires then they'll implicitly say that, yeah, well this

(45:02):
is what Lebron wanted. So when you connect the dots here,
like it's two parties that are right about things, but
also shows that ego gets in the way and they
don't want to blame, and they're they're worried about the
politis in here and how this pertains to the big
picture with this season and what's next. Is to be clear,

(45:23):
Lebron embraced his role as a third option. Xison knows
always fine, he and Luka Doncic, they coexist fine, but
it's more about, okay, moving forward, what would the contract
look like if I'm taking a pay cut. Is it
to upgrade the roster or is it just to you know,

(45:44):
avoid certain luxury taxes? The other thing after the Luka
Doncic trade, you know, Lebron is a huge Luca fan,
like he's always been that way, but there's been frustration
that as soon as you know they got Luca, he's
understandably obviously the now the priority because he's going to
be the franchise guy moving forward. He has a longer career,

(46:05):
but there was frustration that, you know, now the moves
that they're calculating, even though they say they want to
win championships, it's more about long term than thinking, Okay,
we got to put all our ships to try to
win now. And for Lebron's perspective, it as well, she
don't know how many years I have left, so you

(46:25):
should go all in. So all those things are the
sources of you know, frustration and all that as opposed to, oh,
I didn't get the game ball.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Mark Medina is our guest here on f and AN
Fox Sports Radio. Mark, what's your best guess on whether
or not Lebron James will be putting on a Lakers' uniform?

Speaker 13 (46:43):
Again, Well, it's unknown, you know, for what it's worth,
I'm told and I want to be clear with this
because I don't want to get this misinterpreted. But you know,
the Lebron said after the game, like you know, he's
going to consult with his family. That's something that people
around him, you know, emphasized that. You know, look, as
much as it's a basketball's decision, it's a family decision.
But at the same time, it would be a huge

(47:05):
stretch for anyone to then say, oh, like, you know,
his wife or any of his kids are going to
be the main factor or the number one factor on
where he goes. It's a culmination of everything. But it
does matter what his contract's going to be, It's going
to matter what the what the basketball fit is, and

(47:27):
what their roster construction is so as much as the
family part is a variable. Because he's settled in LA,
he's getting older in age, he's very well aware that
he's spent literally twenty three years in the NBA while
his kids were growing up and spending time away from
his wife, Savannah. The basketball part still matters. Money still matters.

(47:48):
So with all that said, I do think that he
comes back, and he comes back with the Lakers. But
everything can change the reason why I think he comes
back with the Lakers. That helps that if he's going
to sacrifice his role. Luka Dacris is a player that
he respects, and if he's going to take a relative

(48:09):
pay cut, and I say relative, it's not fifty two
million to now that minimum, I think he's willing to
do that if it then involves the Lakers upgrading the roster.
And it's not just about retaining Austin Reeves because they
could give Austin Reeves as much money as they want
without it hurting the cap. It's about everything else. And

(48:29):
I think when you're looking at other positions here he
goes to the Warriors, Yeah, that's fun and games he
plays with Steph Curry after their opponents you know, through
all those finals runs and you know in the Olympics.
But you know how that goes. If he goes to
the Warriors, what's going to happen is if he wins,
he doesn't get credit for. If he loses, he gets
blamed for. If he goes back to Cleveland, like he's

(48:52):
already fulfilled that that's, you know, that goal of bringing
a championship to Cleveland, he'd get that farewell to treatment.
But you know, I don't know if it would be
the same fulfillment of going back there. And he's when
he got all that heat for working on Memphis. He
even said he doesn't like going back to Cleveland, like
when he travels. So he is from Akron by the way,

(49:14):
So there are other options, and it's obviously it's guarantee
that he would go to the Lakers, But because of
all these moving parts I outlined, I think he winds
up staying in La.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Mark we Medina Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider joining us
here on f and A on FSR. Before we talk
about the fledgling Cleveland Cavaliers and his NBA playoffs, one
more on potential star movement in the NBA. So, now,
if the dust has settled in the NBA draft lottery,
we know where everybody is. How do you assess the
Janis at Takompo trade situation? Where do you think is
the most likely destination? We've obviously heard about Golden State,

(49:46):
We've heard of buy Miami. Minnesota has popped up all
of a sudden, people talking about teaming up Anthony Edwards
with another star. What are your thoughts on the most
likely destination for Jannis as we approach the proceedson excuse me,
approached the NBA draft here soon.

Speaker 13 (50:00):
Well, I'm going to give a hot take here, but
I think it's well reasoned. I don't think he goes anywhere,
you know why. Like as weird as this sounds, I
think that teams are going to make the calculation, you
know what, I'm better off not getting honest in the trade.
And to be clear, teams are going to negotiate, They're
going to talk. There's going to be interest, but I

(50:21):
think there's going to be a lot of different concerns
that keep all these teams thinking, you know what, better
off say, no, he has a lot of injuries, he's
getting older. They're only going to get worse. Milwaukee bucks. Understandably,
if you're going to trade a generational star, you want
a lot of haul in return. And I think teams
are going to conclude, you know what, it's not worth
giving up lottery picks, It's not giving worth giving up

(50:44):
a bunch of good, you know, roster depth just to
pair him with another star. And I think when you
look at Giannis, he's a great player, but we see
when he got Damian Lillard, it didn't mean anything We've
seen last year when they had a flawed roster. He
couldn't single Hay Italy carry that team to the playoffs.
Because he's really, really good. He's athletic, you know, he's

(51:06):
a dominant force. But even though he's improved as a shooter,
he's still not great and he's not really a fundamentally
sound player. And if you don't have consistent shooters around him,
you know, it's it's like a house of cards. Let's
just collapses here. So it's all might sound like I'm
doing my enter, you know, first take, you know, hot

(51:27):
takes here. But I'm coming to the conclusion that teams
are going to say, actually, you know what, Giannis, he
sounded special before, but we're a good standfoot sounds real.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
I mean, what reason to me camp believe Mark just
said Giannis sucks and nobody wants him. That's crazy, right, Mark,
Let's get overrated. Let's get to Cleveland here. Did they
just lose the series tonight? Is this it? They don't
have a chance now to win in Detroit? And should
Spider Donovan Mitchell take more heath than James Harden has
been getting.

Speaker 13 (51:58):
Well, it's not over because this whole series has been
a hot mess. I mean, let's go back to hip
hop references. It's almost like EM and M is worst.
Do you think relapse is the worst? Or do you
think Revival's the worst? That's that's the series with the
Pistons and the Cavaliers. It's been two teams that have
been a hot mess. You either have Pistons squandering a

(52:19):
bunch of leads, Kate Conningham played up numbers but gained
a bunch of turnovers and the rest of his supporting
cast not hit enough shots. Or to what you said,
you have Cleveland Donovan Mitchell being in efficient, James Harden
being inefficient, or Evan Mobley not looking like the defensive
player of the Year that he was last year. So no,

(52:40):
the series isn't over. Literally anything can happen, you know.
I guess it can be exciting because it's a game
seven right in the playoffs, but I could also be
I also want to be surprised if it's ugly basketball here.
So you know, with the criticism with Donvin Mitchell and
James Harden, I think both of them deserve it. I mean,
both players have not been efficient, both have sugle of

(53:04):
times to turnover. Shames Harden the most tonight, and their
playoff history is their playoff history, Like James Harden, whether
it's injuries or inefficiency or shrinker from the moment, his
playoff history is very checkered with the Rockets, with the
Clippers now now Cleveland. With Donovan Mitchell, I do give
a little bit of grace because some of them was injuries,

(53:27):
some of it was he was playing well, but you
know some of his teammates weren't. But ever since his
day of Utah, like, he hasn't got the second round here.
So these are this Game seven is huge for them
because they haven't showed that they can get past the stage.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
So if they can't get past Detroit and they end
up losing in Detown in Game seven. Do you think
that wholesale changes or major changes could be made, whether
that's a change ahead coach with Kenny Atkinson, do you
think is potentially they can move Jared Allen.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I highly don't have a movie's going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
But do you potentially see a change on the horizon
of Cleveland if they find a way to not make
it out of the second round for the fourth year
in a row that they've had a second or first
place finished in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 13 (54:05):
Yeah, I would suspect there definitely be changes, But I
don't know if it would be a head coaching change.
I'm not saying that there wouldn't be. I just don't know that,
but roster changes for sure. Donovan Mitchell I don't think
would be going anywhere. He signed the extension. I don't
think he's wavering on his enthusiasm for Cleveland. But I
think that they would, you know, entertain everything else. I mean,

(54:27):
they got James Harden knowing that it was a little
bit of a gamble, but they did it because Daris
Garland had his own injury issues, you know, as much
as they appreciate his positivity in the locker room and
just how well he quickened the pace. They also felt
that he lacked some of the seriousness that he need

(54:47):
on a winning basketball team, and they thought, you know what,
James Harden, even though he has this checker playoff history,
he can coexist with other point guards and he's great
with centers in the pick and roll game. But I think,
you know, because of how well how poorly he's played,
I want to be surprised that they entertained some deals
for him. So yeah, if they lose, definitely a roster changes.

(55:11):
I don't know coaching changes that I would be surprised
don Mitchell Donovan Mitchell is off because I think both
sides are still you know, I wouldn't say happy with
the partnership because they expect to go further. But as
far as the collaboration with the organization and player, I
think you know, that part is pretty certive.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Mark The Spurs convincingly advanced to the Western Conference Finals
to night to take on the Oklahoma City Thunder. Do
other teams in the West need to reassess where they
are now? Just because of it just seems like there's
such a cut above everybody else, Like if you're going
to try to go all in. If you're going to
try to get Giannis, as we talked about earlier, you

(55:50):
may want to look at, Okay, seeing the Spurs and say,
I don't know, our window may not be over the
next three to five years because these teams are so good.

Speaker 13 (55:58):
Yeah. No, it's a very good question because I think
what we're going to see with the thunder Spurs, I mean,
barring like major seismic changes right with other teams, We're
going to see this playoff series like in the next
five seven years because Victor why Midamos just gained his
career started, Shay Gilders, Alexander he's been there longer, but

(56:18):
he's still in the prime and roster construction wise, you know,
the you know, the thunder No one outside of Alex
Curry are both thirty years old. You know, they'll have
way different change potential changes like lou Dowrt has a
team option next year or this upcoming offseason. But other
than that, they had their core pretty much intact. The Spurs,

(56:41):
you know, there might be you know, some changes as
far as when you're looking at that back court dynamic
with Daron Fox, defon Castle, Doan Harper. It's inevitable that
at some point Stefan Castle and Dan Harper will have
bigger roles over Daron Fox. But contractually, Darren Fox signed
an extension with the Spurs, you know, last summer, So

(57:02):
this core is going to be sustainable. And I think
the learning lesson for everyone is that you have to
make changes to improve your team because the separation between
thunder Spurs and the rest of the West is very seismic.
But here is the challenge, and this is something that
Rob Polink with the Lakers was asked about it directly
during exit interviews this week. This idea that you can

(57:25):
follow the model that those teams did, it's a little
apples and oranges because how both organizations got there it
involved tanking, you know, rebuilding seasons. And the Lakers, for example,
they're not you know, in that mode, not just because
it's the Lakers, but like they have they have Lebron James,
how they have Luca Dodgers. They already have that generational star.

(57:48):
So this idea that you're going to tear things down
and start tanking and rebuilding, you can't do that when
you have a generational star. So it's about winning on
the fly. So with the Lakers, it's about making moves
can improve them now, and so I think that they'll
make the calls for you, honest. But you know this
idea that they would, you know, strip down the roster

(58:10):
or be willing to part with Austin Reeves, I just
don't see it. But yeah, for everyone else, it is
a lesson learned Denver Nuggets as well, Minnesota. Same thing
you got to You got to improve the roster without
sacrificing your star talent and your depth. Because the separation
that that okay See and Santonio has is pretty deep.

(58:32):
They have generational stars, they're young, they have roster depth,
good coaching, great player development that these franchises pretty much
check every box.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Mark before we let you run.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Let's go back East for him, man, because the Nicks
have been sitting at home patiently waiting for this other
semi final to end just right exactly where I was
going there say, this is why I love Mark so much.
So what do you think will be the more entertaining,
compelling match up in the Eastern Conference Finals Detroit in
the Knicks or Cleveland taking all the New York Knicks,

(59:04):
which you think will be a better matchup.

Speaker 13 (59:06):
Yeah, good question. I would think Detroit and New York
just because, you know, kind of bring back that nostalgic
feel ain't about bad boys Pistons and the Knicks and
the physicality in the eighties and nineties. But I think
it's also because those two teams are elite defensively those
that is their calling card. That is how Detroit overcame
a three one series deficit to Orlando, that is how

(59:29):
they have come back and still made the series against Cleveland. Yeah,
there would be compelling storylines as well against the Cavaliers.
Donvan Mitchell, you know, there was speculation that he would
want to join the Knicks. His dad, you know, works
for the Mets and all that, so that would be cool.
And they also have a lot of top heavy talent.
But I think I would think the Pistons Knicks would

(59:52):
be pretty riveting because of all the reasons ilined historically
and current.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Go New York, Go New York, go high like go Ninja,
Go Ninja, go a little bit more from the real
quality the original Iceman, Ice Ice, Baby Elles, Turtles too,
seeker of those seekerts to the NBA Giving Away Daily
by Mark Medina at Mark g Underscore Medina is where
you find him, of course, a contributor here on Fox

(01:00:19):
Sports Radio. Mark, thanks for doing this tonight once again
here on fn A on FSR.

Speaker 13 (01:00:24):
Appreciate you guys. Looking forward to the NBA talk hip
hop talk and I guess now like Ninja Turtle throwbacks here, Hey,
let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
We don't talk about Ninja Turtles three though. Oh well,
yeah we forget.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Were they were?

Speaker 13 (01:00:35):
They in China Hurdles in time, right, Kaida.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
But those costumes, they weren't Jim Henson. Somebody's mom did
those costumes. So thank you, Mark, appreciated.

Speaker 13 (01:00:45):
Man, Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It is fn A on FSR coming up next. So
we're gonna have games that do matter and make them
not matter so we can play other games that now
also will matter more. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
That was kind of a ball Wait it go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
The potential of college football playoff expanding, we'll talk about
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Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
New place you can watch us and listen to us.
By the way, just search FNA show on the YouTube side.
We are streaming live currently. You can see Kevin myself
here at the Fox Sports Radio studios in Sherman Oaks.
Just search FNA show or you can go to at
the FNA show. Is that actual YouTube link? But it's

(01:02:01):
good to have that technology working for us here. So
is getting phone calls? Yeah, there's the lines are lighting
up at him. Keith. Yeah, Keith in Houston. What's it?
Call in and talk some Drake here? Next call Keith?
What's up?

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Hey? What's going on? Fellas?

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Real quick?

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
All right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
It's a real simple business reason why Drake dropped the
three albums if because he's trying to go independent.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
He owes his label a couple of albums Wait, doesn't
he own his own ovo label? Is his?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
He's not with like that young money cash money anymore?

Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
What is that? UMG?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
I think is oh?

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
Is he?

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
There's so many labels and sub labels like I never
know who's under what umbrella?

Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
So all right, right, yeah he had a three country
three album. I'm sorry, obligation and so he killed three
birds with one stone and made three mid ass album
and now he's a free agent.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I might have to use that as a drop. That's
pretty good. Did you listen to all forty three tracks, Keith?
Did you put yourself through that?

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
I skimmed through them like you did, well, I skim
them through Iceman. I didn't bother to listen to the
other team because I kind of figured they asked with
him singing or you know, I think Iceman would be
the best of the three. And I only like two
songs on that, the first one and the last one.

(01:03:29):
But you know that that was the reason I just
wanted to share that with you guys. You guys have
a good night, all right, you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Too, Thanks for listening. Man, something else, you have one
thing on your mind?

Speaker 12 (01:03:37):
What's up?

Speaker 13 (01:03:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
J Cole is the greatest rapper of this generation. And
I hang up and listen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
You know what I appreciate. Kevin once took me to
a J. Cole concert with Walle opening up to great concert. Yeah,
I love J Cole, first rap concert I had ever
been to. Well, unfortunately I didn't go to Tupac of
the House of Blues back in night right before he
got there. No, no, no, but this is a great show.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
But Cole is up there. Sure Cole is definitely up there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
I feel like okay lyrically, his technique, his flow, high,
high level. Yes, less radio hits though lately Jay Cole.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Well that was a whole issue with him when he
first came out, you know. And one of his hits
from his who was his third album or second album,
about making Nas because Nas was a rapper that he
idolized growing up as a kid, and he said and
he had to make up, but he said, an order
for him to be successful, he had to make radio hits.
And Nas was critical of one of his like poppy
ish radio hits that he made early on, and that

(01:04:38):
really stuck to him because he was like, you know,
basically someone who was like that, you was a mentor
to you or someone that you looked up to, basically
called you, asked for like basically pandering told. So he
made a song called let Nas Down, and then Nas
actually remixed it and said no, you actually made NOAs proud,
which was really cool of him to do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Okay, So Jake Cole almost intentionally does not want to
make radio hits and sort of if it becomes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
A hit, great, and that's kind of how he models.
But when he was under jay Z's label, jay Z
was like, you got to make him. If you want
to make it big, You're not gonna make it big
unless you get radio hits. Now, granted that was fifteen
years ago, and now it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Nas or j Cole prefers alienating the casuals, like if
you're going to listen to me, you were going to
get some sophisticated stuff that you're going to have to
really pour yourself into you to understand. Absolutely, I get,
I respect it all right. Stuff that's also complicated. Tournaments,
especially in college sports, have an expansion of the NCAA

(01:05:34):
basketball tournament to seventy six teams, So now there's this
talk we have all the spring meetings happening with all
these conferences. Big twelve wrapped up ACC was this week
and it seems to be pretty universal with the exception
of one the SEC, and I'm not surprised by it that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
They all want to expand. It's twenty four teams with
the college Football Playoff. It's all about access. And Jim
Phillips is the commissioner of the ACC, and he spoke
earlier this week saying that you know, all these teams
won is just a little bit or access when it
comes to having a chance to compete for a championship.
He brought up Florida State as an example from a
couple of years ago, the relic of the old four
team playoff, and they were left out as an undefeated

(01:06:09):
ACC champion because Jordan Travis got injured the week before
the conference championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
They got smoked in their bowl game, right, weren't they vindicated?

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Nobody played, They didn't play. All their guys nobody play,
nobody cared. It was a meaningless ball game that wasn't
a playoff game. So literally all their guys set out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
I thought it was more like Notre Dame. They literally
did not play. They did they did not opt out.
They actually they play. They suited guys up, take our
ball and go home. It was basically like the old
NFL strike season.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
They just do put a bunch of guys off of
like the you know, the shelves from the grocery store,
and put them in there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Was that the season Jerry Rice had twenty two touchdowns.
I think though most of it did come against non
scabs were out there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
They weren't just replacements. It wasn't Keanu Reeves and the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
So the major argument that if you go to twenty
four teams, you're really really bastardized in the regular season
and making it a little bit less important. And that's
the problem, like one of the beauties of college football.
And this is something we debated this for years on
the Old FNA podcast when it was the old days
of the BCS and they were transitioning into a four
team playoff, and like, what's too many?

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Well, how many teams are too many? How many or
too for you? Where's the sweet spot, the goldielock spot.
My initial thought was six yeah, and then I disagreed
with you. It did and I was like sixteen, and
then I was like, all right, you know what, let's
do ten.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
So then it went from four to twelve and I
was like all right. And honestly, if not for the
dumb ass committee and the way they stack Notre Dame
in Miami for the entire season, with the exception of
the final week, it probably would have worked out fine.
And the changing of the rules where initially you had
to have the top five conference champions make it, it's
now just been revised where all Power four teams they

(01:07:46):
all get automatic bids one Power one group of five
team and then the rest can fall into place. Because
JMU and Tulane kind of messed everything up this past year. Really,
the ACC messed it up because the ACC champion didn't
make it because they were so terrible. Miami, of the
ACC made it as an at large, which opened the
door for two Lane and JMU to both make it
into the playoff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Miami proved themselves. But these smaller schools getting in the
way they have, they get trounced. The problem is the
games are uncompetitive, right we know they're going to be uncompetitive,
but that's the way the format is right now. That
is to me, the best reason for expanding now, I
don't know if you need to expand all the way

(01:08:25):
to twenty four. That's my problem. I still think sixteen
might suffice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Why not fourteen? The NFL does fourteen, I'm damn it.
That's what forty four percent of the league makes the postseason.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
I ran expanded recently.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
College football is obviously much much bigger, and you want
to have multiple people have a large piece of the pie.
But if you're talking twenty four and letting all these
teams from all these conferences in but way we had
the fourteen playoff, how many blowouts did we have when
we have major conferences playing against each other?

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
The semi final games were miserable. For whatever reason, we
just could not get good matchups there. Oregon taken down
Florida State and Jamis Winston before it was Winston van
Go their giant schedule release. I'm a fan of that one,
to be honest. With Alabama taking out the Washington Huskies,
the Tantnasey Titans was good to look alike.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
It was very clever.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
A white guy and they're calling him, oh, it's Derrick
Henry over here, just because he's wearing Dereck Henry's jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
If you feel compelled to expand fourteen, maybe sixteen twenty
four is too much because then because now, and I
think somebody brought this up earlier this weekend, might have
been Mike Greenberg. I saw a clip that was circulating
on social media and he brought up a good point.
What does number one Ohio State versus number three Michigan
on Thanksgiving weekend mean? If you know that they're both

(01:09:41):
going to be a shoe in for the playoff and
they're both going to get a bye, what's to stop
them from resting their starters? And we're basically bastardizing one
of the great rivalries in college sports and all of sports,
and we're deeming it unimportant. It doesn't matter because the
ultimate prize is winning a championship.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Teams don't play for pride and anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Back in the day in the NFL, if a team
was fourteen and one or sixteen and one going into
the final week of the season, they'd still play their
starters because that's just how it was back then.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
It's not like that now. If people could just wrap
their heads around the fact that if you have if
you don't have the inclusivity or exclusivity, if you don't
let as many teams in, if you make it like
it is right now with twelve teams, if you make
it tougher to get in the tournament, like there's already

(01:10:29):
basically a tournament going on in the regular season. Just
view it that way. Every game becomes so pivotal and crucial.
So I don't understand why people can't get that part
of it. But again, when the smaller schools are getting
in and you know they're going to get beat down
and those make for terrible games, I'd rather have seen

(01:10:50):
Notre Dame in there this past season.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Well, if this past season were played under this coming
season's rules, Notre Dame would have gotten in because if
they finish in the top twelve, they're gonna get an
automatic bit.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
They got that sweetheart deal now, right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
So that was written in to kick in this coming season.
So that's something that will be taken care of. But
if it expands to fourteen, I'm totally fine with that
because I still puts at least an element of relevance
into the regular season. But you get to twenty four teams,
you're gonna have teams in the SEC the Big ten
that are gonna have four losses that are gonna be
in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Well, and then realistically, what chance do those teams have
of running the table in the tournament? Now, where did
Miami end up? Were they eighth or ninth? What draw
did they get? Because they did make it to the
national championship and have a chance, obviously against Indiana, and
that was kind of it's weird to think of Miami
as some underdog Cinderella story, but for being such a

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low seed, they made a big time run. But if
you get to twenty four teams, as the twentieth team
really gonna have a chance to do damage in a
tournament like this, Now it could just come down to
the almighty dollar. That's the Rick new housele line. The
answer is, now, what's the question? Yeah, if these games

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actually do big ratings, regardless of the implications of just
how for how much further this team can go? College
Football Committee is not gonna care about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Well, that's the thing too, because we can sit here
and scream from the mountaintops about regular season games losing
their importance. Are people going to be less inclined to watch?
Is going to be the big question?

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
The problem is. I think it might take a few
years for this to flush itself out, because if we
see a few years of Ohio State versus Penn State
not mattering late in the season, if that happens for
five straight years, and you know, a bunch of other
Robert Alabama and Auburn not mattering for six straight years,
maybe it starts eating into it a little bit. But
it is football. It's a scarce product. It's not like
college basketball. People have two in college basketball out in

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the regular season for twenty years at this point in time,
just waiting for the tournament. And that's my fear. I
don't necessarily want that to happen. And I think it'll
be a slower build if we do this and it
stays that way for a long period of time. But
it's not gonna happen overnight because football is still and
they're still a clambering for it every Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Less is more, though, I grins. I think, walk before
you run. Why jump all the way up? Why double
it from twelve to twenty four, as you mentioned, just
go up to incrementally move up and go to fourteen
and see how that feels, because twelve was feeling pretty
good until Notre Dame got left out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
And again, the committee is the one that put themselves
in that position for them to be left out if
they had Notre Dame behind Miami the entire time, and
it ended up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
The way that it ended up. I've had less issue
with it. They pulled the rug out from underneath them
because of the way they raked them throughout the entire
season and had some backass words logic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Now and look, people are talking, do you talk about money?
And that's the thing. You have more playoff games obviously
late in the season December into Jam. I mean, you're
probably going to run close to Super Bowl time if
you're adding all these extra playoff games. But on more
on campus games, more TV revenue, for more bidding for
different ESPN has the exclusivity right now. And think they
think they formed a couple of playoff games out the

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TNT last year. Uh So more games that area that
have playoff implications without a playoff games is going to
bring more money into the networks.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
That's all they end up caring about.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I just don't want it to end up bastardizing the
greatness that is the regular season of college football, which
is really out outside of the NFL, the best regular
season that we have left because the stakes are so high.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
The stakes are not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Going to be high if you know twenty four teams
end up making the playoff, they just won't.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Coming up next, the greatness of one of our longtime friends,
Vic the Brick Jacobs, talking about well, a topic that
has become very relevant today because of Edwin Diaz and
the Dodgers and the acquisite accusations of cock fighting. We
got some sound you have to hear coming up next
here on FNA on Fox Sports Radio. FNA Cotton, Welcome

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iHeart Hat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Coming up in about ten minutes, Lebron James's Lakers legacy
success or failure. We talk about that coming up at
the top of next hour. But speaking of la athletes,
a very interesting story came out via USA Today on
Friday afternoon that Dodgers closer Edwin Diaz currently on the
shelf by the way after getting some loose bodies cleaned
up in his elbow. So he's going to be out

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probably until July ish or so, maybe even after the
All Star break.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Are he and Blake Snell getting the same doctor? Sure
a big body bag for this Dodgers team right now,
a lot of guys injured.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Blake Snell might get the same procedure that Terrek Scoople got,
and he might. He's on in track to be to
return much faster than Net one das, So we'll see
what happens with Blake Snell. But Edwin Diaz in the
off season, there are photos of him that were used
while wearing a Dodger jersey and holding.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Two say it roosters, Thank you. I was trying to
That was the pre pause for the kids, like saying
pause a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I'm make sure I get myself don't get kicked off,
holding two roosters, promoting cockfighting.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
Cockfighting in Puerto Rico, which is not cool.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
He even quoted, well, he was quoted as saying, like,
you know, allegedly according to what this you know release
on this Facebook page, from this from this publication in
Puerto Rico, they're like, hey, you know, thankfully I can
do this here because it's illegal other places.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I'm paraphrasing.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
The problem is it's illegal in Puerto Rico too, and
I don't think he was aware of that. It was
in twenty nineteen the Supreme Court voted that all US
territories have to deem cockfighting to be illegal.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
That includes Puerto Rico.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Now, the problem is, from what I've gathered, it is
illegal federally, but it's not really policed all that heavily
in Puerto Rico because for a long period of time
it has been a part of the culture out there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
It's based I think from when I'm gleaning from this story,
it's like weed here. It is illegal federally, but certain states,
like California, you can smoke it and it's very prevalent.
So it's a low level type of crime. But the

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way we view it, and there's cultural differences here. It's
animal abuse obviously, right, so it's an issue. It's also
something that people are just enamored with because of that
same cultural difference and people enjoying different types of gamesmanship.
I guess, but I'm not a fan of cockfighting.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
That'd never been my thing, to be honest with you.
Always thought it was kind of weird. I mean, just
having animals fight for sport in general. It has always
been weird to me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
But I'm right, Powder, I don't want any animals getting killed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Running other bulls is weird for me. That's the exploitation
of them. And anybody that gets gets you know, Gordon
the ass, more power to them and go them four times.
That's what their dumbasses get for running running in front
of bulls. So I have no sympathy whatsoever anybody that
ever gets injured running with the bulls, and none.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
This guy probably has ran with the bulls because he
is an international man of mystery in southern California that
you know, is a big deal in our life growing
up and working at AM five to seventy LA Sports
for so many years. He's here at Sucktay Radio. Well, yeah,
Vic the brick Jacobs, our good friend who is a
real character. Uh, there's nobody else like him and he

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was on AM five to seventy for years, the Loose
Cannons with Steve Hartman, also here on Fox Sports Radio.
But make the brick. This is some audio we procured
that's from fifteen years ago and I got it from
Justin Frossberg, earlier producer of the Jason Smith Show. Obviously,
but he had a moniker Montana rolling for a long time,

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and I think it had to do with Montana rolling
out and finding Dwight Clark in the back of the
end zone. I'm not sure. Maybe he was an Anders
fan growing up. But this was from fifteen years ago
at the studios of AM five to seventy with VTB,
who's a traveling man, telling a story about watching some
cock fighting and this.

Speaker 7 (01:19:08):
Collaboration.

Speaker 8 (01:19:11):
Vic, can you please give my strong sentiments sports fans
a little cock fighting play by play You use a
term loosely cockfighting to meet. Cock fighting lies a place
in my heart because my first market in my erratic career,
as I continue to scratch my way towards the middle,

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started on the island of Guam, Micronesia circa nineteen seventy eight,
and my first job was sportscaster at Guam Cable TV
at Great Metropolitan cable station on the island of Guam,
and to all au Guamanian friends out there are mighty
how for day sports fans where America's day begins, where

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Vic's broadcasting career began.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
To get to it back and part of.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
Your responsibility is on a weekend was to go around
the island and get flavor from the island. So there
was Major League Baseball, there was Guam Major League Baseball.
There's a Guam Football League with a military and the
natives form leagues. So the native Gumanians who were tremendous baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Maybe skip ahead a little bit here presently play and
an air form.

Speaker 8 (01:20:23):
I'm in an island, island paradise, and I would cover
it because it was part of the culture. You want
to play, part of the Filipino culture and if you
want to play.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
It, O get we get fainted out there, guys.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Basically, Victor Break was a covering quad cock fighting on
his nightly sportscast like your regular sportscaster would cover a
boxing match or a baseball game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
And this was fifteen years ago, so not illegal at
that time, I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Guess, no not And then like you said it was
it was ingrained in their culture or something they did
all the time. So weather or not, Edwin Diaz is
going to actually face some discipline. We'll have to wait
and see.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
Get healthy. Coming up next, Lebron James on FASAR.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
You'll see one of Adam's mini clipper hats he's wearing tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I'm representing here. You will not see Victor brick Jacobs,
but you may hear him like do we got a
Mr Audience.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
I didn't play, but I was immersed, you know, in
the cock fighting culture, and I knew a good fighting
cock from a bad fighting cock. Unless say the cocks
came out blaze on beach.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
There's a few different south I said that where you
can flitt in the machine.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Now, I feel like one or two of them are
gonna get us kicked off the air.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
So that's job, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Some of the some things you can't play out of context,
you know what I mean, Producer, Mike, good job, Mike on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
The edge, Mike, I don't blame that on me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
I just got here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
I pushed him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
I like it.

Speaker 12 (01:21:56):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
We love ETV all right, coming up in just a
little bit here we will be taking our phone calls
at eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox regarding this topic.
Because Lebron James is, for whatever reason, the most polarizing
athlete on the planet. And some will say, well, it's
because he sucks. It'll never be MJ. And he's awful,

(01:22:23):
and he married his high school sweetheart, and he's a
good dad and a family man, and I don't like it.
He had a hubber when he was eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
He's overrated, and you know, he could only win championships
with super teams, and Jordan didn't win titles with super teams.
And Jordan was six to zero in the NBA finals
and Jordan, you know, never farted. You know stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Let me tell you he let out a few Now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Listen to some of the people in the Twitter sphere
or exosphere or whatever it's called.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Now, Well after the Lakers about out of the playoffs
unceremoniously being swept expectedly by the way, of course, even
if they get by Houston, they're getting slacked by Okay, see.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
We all knew it. Here's the crazy part is so
Lebron's been to the NBA Finals nine times?

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Is it nine? Sounds about right? Was it nine? Eight straight?
Ten times? Because he's four ten times? Okay, so times?
So ten times he's been to the finals. And I
believe he was only favored to win the finals twice
something like that. He's been an underdog the majority of
the time he was in the NBA Finals. That should
say something. Michael Jordan was team Sport.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Yeah, Michael Jordan, I don't know this for a fact.
My guess is was favorite to win the NBA Finals
every year that he was in, and he won.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
The only one I could think of that maybe he
wasn't in and false enough, Yeah, the first one against
the Lakers or who was a slight underdog and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Those are arguments who he made. If the Lakers were healthy,
maybe the bill Bulls don't win that series.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Yeah, I think i'm's worthy about that, right, ask Byrons
Scott about that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
But we digress. We don't necessarily want to turn this
into what MJ versus Lebron debate, because we'll be sitting
here for hours.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
We don't need that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
We'll say we'll save that debate for the dog days
of summer in July or something coming.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
But most of it is gonna sit around Lebron James.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
And because a big topic that's popped up this week
was his legacy, specifically his Lakers legacy and whether it
was successful or not, and a lot of back and
forth and discourse as to whether or not he fulfilled
whatever promise people assumed he was supposed to fulfill when
he signed with the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Let me tell you he didn't fulfill the promise of
going to Blaze Pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Where Adam was standing out there with thousands of other people,
sweating his ass off in the heat of summer, and
Lebron is in the backyard of sitting in a pool
somewhere drinking of my tie. At his live audio from
Adam that he recorded speaking to a Laker fan who
was expecting Lebron James to show up at the Blaze
Pizza in Culver City, and Adams asked this gentleman what

(01:24:55):
is your message to Lebron James. And this is what
he said.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Summer twenty eighteen after the report from Clutch Sports, which
was very much understated compared to the decision or anything
like that. It was just he couldn't do that again. Yeah,
I think Lee Jenkins, who worked for the Clippers, helped
craft it was that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
So that's when he left the Heat to go back
to Cleveland. He reproduced like some sort of it was
something that Lee Jenkins wrote right to go back to Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Lebron felt like he went to the Heat in the
first place because he never got to go to college.
This was that type of experience for him. He wanted
to come home fulfill his destiny there, Cleveland, this is
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
When he came to the Lakers, it was even more understated.
It was like a one sentence Lebron James has decided
to sign a free edge contract with the Lakers. It
was literally that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
It was like that was it is this real? Like
today nobody would buy that because of AI and how
easy that would be to put together in two seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Even the picture of him smile and sitting next to
Rob Polenka, Maggie Johnson signing the contract.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
You can easily put that together with ais Ai slop.
I've seen this before. Come on, Rob Polenka, that guy
can't be real. They just used like a picture of
what's his name, Rob Low and they superimposed his face
onto a making fake ass GM. That's all this is.
It's Ai. Yeah. This Lakers team did not get past

(01:26:19):
the second round this season, and some people want to
hold that against Lebron James because they couldn't beat the
defending champs and maybe the team that's about to go
back to back for the first time. You know, the
last seven years, we haven't had anyone go back to back,
that's right, and that includes the Lakers obviously winning in
the bubble in twenty twenty. So the question is if

(01:26:41):
Lebron is underachieving with the Lakers, is Jannis underachieving with Milwaukee?
Should he get more hate?

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Is Jokic who's done the exact same thing Lebron has
done in the last eight years of Lebron's been with
the Lakers one championship? Is Yokic a failure?

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Don't give in?

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
If you want to go back extrapolate this out historically speaking,
derk Novitski's one of the great players in the history
of the sport, played in Dallas for twenty years. I
believe one championship failure.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Now, if you want to say, well, we're not comparing
those guys to the go MJSA, Yeah, we are with
Lebron James, but you have to still put it into context.
When Lebron got to the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
He was thirty four, he was thirty four, they were
god awful like they had I don't. You might know
the stat better than I, but they had one of
the worst winning percentages in the NBA over like a
five year period. I think what Lebron got there the worst.
I think Philadelphia might have been. The Philadelphia was in
the midst of the of the process.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Sam Hankey died for your sin. They weren't that bad.
I'm tanking that was going.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Philadelphia was averaging like ten wins a year or something.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Well, the Lakers averaged twenty five per year the five
years before Lebron James came. And nobody wants to talk
about that. Instead they just say Lebron James somehow ruined
the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Which is anybody that says that needs to get their
head examined, the Lakers ruined. The Lakers ruined themselves. They
ruined themselves, and they gave Kobe Bryant that giant contract
extension after he had already torn his achilles, and they
went out and started signing guys like Louell Dang to
oversize contracts and Timothy mos Golf to oversize contracts. That
set the franchise back years. They had these stupid free

(01:28:18):
agency pitches telling guys like LaMarcus Aldridge, we can make
you a star and put your face on billboards, when
he wanted them to tell them how he can help
them win basketball games.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Dwight Howard got the same thing from Kobe Bryant when
he left.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
It was self sabotage on the Lakers part. If anything,
Lebron James saved them, He brought them back to legitimacy.
Now we can argue as to what his reasoning was
to signing with them, whether it was to come to
Hollywood and do production company stuff or whatever. Regardless of
what his intention was, we know that once he put
that uniform one and got on the court, he raised
the level of play for that team.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
If you want to look at today's NBA through the
lens of yesteryear where there were more dynasties, was quite
frankly easier to win because they didn't have this punitive
salary cap structure with the new CBA and the second
APRON where you can't just go out and spend as

(01:29:12):
much money as you would like, you will be penalized
for that. If you look at the modern NBA, and
since Lebron entered the league in two thousand and three,
nobody's won more than four titles, which he has. Steph
Curry has matched him in that area, but Lebron has
all four finals MVPs for those championships. Steph has won

(01:29:34):
the Golden State Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Lebron should have probably won at least one or two
of those finals MVPs in a losing effort. He almost
stacked Warriors rosters with Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
In twenty fifteen. I want to say he was pretty
close to winning. It was between him, Steph and Andrea Gadala,
and Lebron was getting votes in a losing effort because
they had no business taking Golden State obviously to six
games without Kyrie, without Kevin Love.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yeah, talking about his Laker legacy because there's the trickle
down effect of getting him onto the roster. So he
comes he has the clutch influence. Anthony Davis says, I
want to be traded to nowhere but the Lakers. They
make that happen, and they turn almost overnight or within
a couple of years of Lebron coming to the Lakers
from being an alco Ran to being immediate title contenders.
You mentioned the bubble. They won the championship in twenty

(01:30:18):
twenty twenty twenty one. They struggle through the regular season,
they have some injuries. They make it in I believe
it is the eighth seed or seventh seed. They play
the Phoenix Suns and Anthony Davis is dominating the first
couple of games and he gets injured. They lose that series.
And in the offseason, as Mark Bordina told us earlier
in the show, they listened to Lebron James and Anthony
Davis and their influence and decide to blow that roster

(01:30:39):
up and trade for Wessell Westbrook. And that is where
the downward spiral had begun for the Laker franchise, as
we've known in the last four or five years.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
The tentacles from that trade are long, yes, like this
is an octopus or a squid or whatever was in
two thousand leagues under the sea in that fight six,
it ocus Okay, has it been eight years since then? No,
it's it's felt like that at times. They're still paying
for the residual effects of the Russell Westbrook trade. But regardless,

(01:31:09):
we don't know how much Lebron was involved with that
or not. I would just put it like this, there
haven't been many times where they have underachieved. I would
say when you contextualize everything, and if you want to
say the only championship happened in the bubble, you're also
taking out the context of they had the best record
in the league before the hiatus, and they had just

(01:31:29):
beat the Milwaukee Bucks and the Clippers, two of the
best teams in the league. The Lakers look like the
best team in the league. They were number one in
the West.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
You can make a reasonable argument that they could have
won a championship under normal circumstances too.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
They would have had home court advantage throughout the entire playoffs.
They also would have had Avery Bradley, who elected not
to go to the Bubble and was very good for
them that season.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Every very good role player for them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Yes, So to downplay that championship and call it a
Mickey Rouse ring and all those things, just say you
hate Lebron on because that's all it is. You You're
not being logical or being reasonable, and your argument's not
very good. You just hate Lebron So it clouds you're thinking.
So cut to the chase and just tell us that instead.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
That's the thing. Just be objective about it or I
like I said, just be honest about it. That's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
You don't like him.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Look there, we've admitted there are aspects of Lebron that
we don't like. You know, there's plenty the subtweeting, you know,
leaving Adam to sweat his ass off out in the
sun and Culver City when he first got here. Adam
is still pissed off about that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Yeah, my skin's never recovered.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
It's right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
I used to be and beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
So but we can recognize and we can be objective
about the kind of player and what we've been witnessing
over these past twenty three years.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
You know why, because we like basketball before we like players.
We like the game of basketball because I mean, regardless
of how I feel about that player. What's going to
supersede all that other stuff I don't like is if
he's great at the game of basketball. I'll tell you what.
I didn't like Michael Jordan growing up, but I respected
him because he was so good at the game.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Let me tell you all something, just a little bit
of secret, and this is, whether it's Lebron James or
Maggie Johnson, or Michael Jordan or Tom Brady, your favorite
player would not pee on you if you were on fire,
could not care less.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
So you sitting out here trying to cape up for
them and defend them and like defend them to the death.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
They're fine regardless.

Speaker 6 (01:33:24):
Keep the fire.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Love or hate Michael Jordan, he's good. Love or hate
Lebron James, He's good. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
It's amazing to me how everyone wants to say, oh,
you work for Clutch. If you say anything nice about Lebron,
It's like you work for a team flight or air.
Jordan's exactly right. How much are you getting paid over there?
They will love to Some of these people will absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Sure they would.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
The Jordan disciples, there's many, there's just as many as
them being just as unfair about Lebron as Lebron fans
are about Jordan's legacy and calling them all plumbers.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
A lot of those guys like to act as if
like the Michael Jordan didn't play when he was thirty nine,
thirty eight, thirty nine, forty You know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
That didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
That hasn't all.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
And that's what bothers me about this, because I'm trying
to be fair and objective here, and you want to
grade Lebron differently at an older age than Michael Jordan.
But they'll say, well, you can't use his age as
a feather in his cap. And when he plays well,
you say, how is he doing this at forty one?
But when he plays bad, you say, well, he's forty one.

(01:34:24):
He's not supposed to be good anymore. Yes I can, Yes,
you can, because.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
He has an authortic foot and he's forty one, and
he's out there out hustling a bunch of twenty four
to twenty five year old Houston Rockets and meaningful games
in the postseason. Yes, I can say that I.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Would add to that with this. We can, because that's
how we've graded every old timer late in the game
We've always said, hey, celebrate their wins when they have flashbacks,
when they have good games every couple of weeks, like
MJ with the Wizards, or like Dirk Davinski at the end,

(01:35:00):
like Vince Carter at the end, celebrate they give us. Yeah,
but we're not going to be overly critical when they
have bad games because they're old. It's under said, I'm
holding Lebron to the very same standard that we've always
held guys to when they get older, we say, when
they have good games, how are they still doing this?

(01:35:20):
When they have bad games? Ah, you know what, They're
just too old. This is what happens at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
That's consistent and for the people that use the Westbrook
trade and whether or not he and Anthony Davis kind
of go to the front office in to making the
deal and they hold that against Lebron. That's on the
front office. That's not on Lebron. You know what, your
job as a general manager slash owner is to do
what's best for the franchise, regardless of what the player says.
Pat Rowley told Lebron James, I'm not firing Eric Spolstra.

(01:35:47):
He's your head coach. Bleep and deal with it, and
he had to deal with it. You're the owner, you're
the general manager. Russell Westbrook was a bad fit. Every
single solitary person who knows anything about basketball knew at
the time that it was going to be a bad fit.
But Lebron and Ad because there were boys or Russ
one of them. That's at a point in time where
the organization says, from an organizational standpoint, this is going
to hamstring us. This is a horrible fit. We're going

(01:36:09):
to suck. We're not making this trade with all due respect,
and they chose out to do that. I don't even
bring Lebron for that, because.

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
I gotta put your foot down. The buck stops with you.
If you're labeled the president of basketball operations, you're the
one that's going to take the fall of this goes sideways.
And that's why they're beefing up the front office now
with Mark Walter coming in with the Lakers from the Dodgers.
Instead of firing Rob Polenka, they're just putting more voices
in the room exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
They're basically empowering him and giving you a lot more resources,
resources that organization has been lacking for decades. By the
way when it comes to the modern NBA. So I
don't put that on Lebron. So if you're talking about
what his legacy is with the Lakers, assuming that this
is the end, and maybe it's not, maybe he comes
back for another year or two, I see it as successful.
I have to consider whether the Lakers were before he
signed and where they are now.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
That's the part people leave out. They keep acting like
this Lakers team had just won five championships in ten years,
like it was the eighties, and then Lebron came in
in only won one. No, Lebron came in in twenty eighteen.
Their last championship was twenty ten, and they were downright
uncompetitive when you had Chris came in laying on the

(01:37:16):
bench because they were so thin after a fight with
I think Swaggy p Nick Young out there or was
it Jordan Clarkson. And it was a memorable image of
the Lakers during that era. I mean, that's how bad
it was back then.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
It was embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
But people will intentionally misremember that so they can get
away with hating on Lebron and acting like he ruined
the franchise. When ruin what ruin? What twenty five wins
per season. That's where they were at for five straight years.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Jan dig a ditch any deeper than they were already
in at that point in time. He all get them out.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
If, as you mentioned earlier, he's not there, they don't
get Anthony Davis. If they don't get Anthony Davis, they
don't get Luka Dancic, right, so there's a ripple effect
there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
They don't even get a Mickey Mouse Championship. You'll if
you want to call it that, what you'll take. You'll
take that, right, Yeah, you'll take the championship. However you
can get it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
It's become harder and harder. If you look at the
league over a period of time, and you go back
to Bill Russell in the sixties and they won eleven
championships and he won eight straight, and then you get
to MJ winning six in the nineties, or before that,
you could go to the Lakers winning five in the
eighties and the Celtics winning three, and then MJ winning

(01:38:33):
six and a water and down nineties where they didn't
have the international player pool that was as talented as
it is now to fill out the six teams that
came during that time that MJ ended up winning six
championships a thinner NBA, which I don't know. Larry Bird
has talked about it, Doctor J. Many people have talked
about it. In fact, the Bulls during that time had

(01:38:54):
quotes about saying like, yeah, our record is a little
bit inflated because of the NBA the state of the
NBA now, but.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Team's making the playoffs with thirty eight and thirty nine
wins back then.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Right. The point is, as time has gone along, teams
are winning less and less. There's less dynasties. The level
playing field is there, and that's why last seven years
we haven't had a back to back champion. Now we
might have it this year with the OKC Thunder. And
by the way, that's by design. That's what Adam Silver won.
He wants parody, which he thinks is great for the league.

(01:39:26):
I kind of tend to differ to a certain degree,
but I understand he wants to make sure that every franchise,
every fan base fields they have a chance to win.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
It's more competitive than ever and the only reason the
Oklahoma City Thunder are going to have this opportunity anyways
to go back to back is because once in a
lifetime winfall of a trade that they got where a
rookie who averaged ten points per game ended up becoming
a back to back MVP, which is what SGA is
about to be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Franchise ever, who can come from I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
I misremember the thunder have another like high or mid
first round pick from that trade. This year, I got
the twelfth pick of the draft, also from the Clippers.
J Dubb also came out of the Sea. Yes, they
have an embarrassment of riches because of one trade, but
that's that's a typical. So for the majority of I

(01:40:15):
don't know, maybe the rest of our lives, we're not
gonna see as many teams dominate like we had seen
in the past. So the point is Lebron winning one
in his eight years with the Lakers where he started
at the age of thirty four and maybe ended the
age of forty one, so not exactly in his prime.
I agree overall it's been successful. It could have been

(01:40:37):
more successful if it wasn't for some bad luck. Salomon
Hill rolling his ankle. What else happened in twenty twenty one,
because at that time there was a lot of talk
of they need to go back to back to legitimize
the championship in the bubble, let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
But they also didn't need to And after he got injured,
you mentioned Solomon Hill, you mentioned the injury to Anthony Davis.
They didn't need to blow that roster up. They could
have brought all those guys back. ACP and Alice Caruso
went on to other teams and became key role players
in winning championships in Denver and Oklahoma City.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Those guys can still be the key calls for the Lakers.
The other point I would throw back at people say
that he has hurt the Lakers brand is Kevin, what
was the evaluation they went for with Mark Walter buying
the team ten billion dollar valuation? How much do you
hurt the brand that much? I'm sorry now much at all.

(01:41:29):
Far be it from us to defend Lebron James, But
it's just too easy when you're being logical and sensible
about it and not just being emotional because you hate
the guy or he threatens your goat in Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Well, let's see how logical and sensible. The listeners are eight, seven, seven,
and ninety nine on Fox. How would you rate Lebron
James's Lakers tenure. Do you believe it's been successful one
championship in eight years, a couple of appearances in the
conference finals, or do you think he has been a
giant disappointment and under retiever in Los Angeles eight seven,
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Lebron James and his legacy with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Eight hour original talking about Lebron James and the goat
debate hit man, you two have.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
Eight years with the Lakers, twice to the Conference finals,
once to the NBA Finals in a championship in the
bubble in twenty twenty? Would you rate his career in
Los Angeles a success or a failure?

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
I thought technical engineer Mark brought something up that there's
some gray to this. Sure, while people this week wanted
to present the question of success or failure his tenure
with the Lakers, pass or fail, there's more, there's there's
shades of gray. Good. Could it have been better? Sure? Yeah,
But if you're only giving me success or fail I

(01:43:25):
would say success when you compare it to where the
Lakers were at right before the last five years. He
came right. I think it's that simple. Let's see if
vic in La agrees with us. Vic the brick is
up late.

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
Okay, and I am a brick because I'm about to
come hard. I don't understand how how he's got here.
You know, Michael Jordan from what I remember, you know,
he had no high school popping second stand. He wasn't
no McDonald, loll America all that. But there was no

(01:43:58):
pressure there. He was like on the radar, like he
like you said, like he didn't make his he got
kicked off the team in the tenth grade.

Speaker 12 (01:44:06):
Like when you're like Kareem and you're like that.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
First of all, that story made. That story is not true.
He didn't make varsity as a freshman. That's all.

Speaker 6 (01:44:16):
Well, that other way, Kareem Magic Lebron. These people are,
they're they're winning mister Basketball at sophomores in June. They're
they're just coming through. They're already they're already known to
be what they are. So when you come into a
situation tresureless and then you end up becoming diamondish, I'll
reward you for that, but for you to let's say

(01:44:36):
so Michael played for the twelve years straight. He went
to baseball, came back and so he had six years
that we give them. Flat foot dominance were talked about
Charles Barkley, arm Alone, Gary Peyton.

Speaker 12 (01:44:49):
The only person I can validate him that is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:51):
Clyde because he was on five Flamma Java. I just
don't understand how you you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Find a way to.

Speaker 12 (01:44:59):
Play were that small.

Speaker 6 (01:45:01):
Bit of time when you're dealing with the people that
have been doing with the pressure of the entire time,
Like I'm a Laker, I'm not a Lebron. I'm a
Laker like Kobe plays just like Mike, just like Michael.
Everybody do not like Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan, but I
do respect and do no for effect that I hate
when he has the ball in his hand because you're
going to make it. But my preference, I'd rather have

(01:45:23):
Magic Johnson. Like that's even disrespectful. Nine years, nine finals
appearances out of twelve years, and when you do loose,
it's to Julius.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Well, Magic was on a super team, Like, right, you
want to talk about born on third base? Magic Johnson
had Kareem as his VET when he entered the league, Like,
but nobody talks about that, Like the difference between Lebron
had to go join a super team. Well, yeah, sorry,
he didn't get drafted to a team that had Kareem
aut Duel Jabbar. It was a little bit different with
how mismanaged Cleveland was.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I would also say, by the way, Kareem and I've
said this since day one, and I get I don't
know if I get shouted down, but he doesn't get credit.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
He should be the conversation along with MJ and Lebron.
As far as the greatest players.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
And you gotta say one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Yes, good.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
So what's happening right now is what happened already, already
seen before. Kareem was Lebron forty forty thirty eight looking
for a Luca.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Luca was magic.

Speaker 6 (01:46:16):
Now if they can get together, that's literally we're seeing
it all over again. But the thing is, you got
this guy, not Kareem. Like, see, it's different. Kareem's demeanor
and his factor, how you know, is off putting way
of being with media. That's different. This guy is just
being picked on. And I'm not really a v I
am so much a Laker. So once you go and

(01:46:38):
put my jersey arm, I'm a I'm a two vic.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Are you saying Lebron gets overly criticized? Is that your
central point?

Speaker 12 (01:46:46):
No, I'm saying it's worse than that. Everyone's tripping.

Speaker 6 (01:46:50):
You're gonna you vought a man that got to play
basketball quietly, opposed to a man that was being yelled
at and looked at the entire time and performed.

Speaker 12 (01:46:58):
There's no comparison, and he's still performed, you know what
I'm saying, Like, it's just hard for me to digest
this full body of work like I'm trying to pray
out when Paul Allen or what Michael Jordan did to
pay off everybody. I've met, Matthew Johnson, I've met Shack,
I've met Kobe, and Kobe is the only one that says, damn,
that's all about me. Magic is the best basketball player

(01:47:20):
I've ever seen. Kobe is the worst best basketball player
I've ever seen because he makes all that bad decision
making look great.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Had I was not gonna argue against that with him,
big thank you for the call man. Much appreciated him
with some good points taking there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
For sure, Kobe was the best bad shot taker and
maker of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
One thing that gets lost to in this with the
and I think he's right. I mean Lebron James has
been scrutinized since he was sixteen years old. His high
school games were on ESPN. Nobody's been under a microscope
like this in the history of sports. I vividly remember
when I was in high school the same time he was,
and people are like, this guy's gonna be He's Michael
Jordan and Maggie Johnson combined.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Did you have a hummer like him?

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
I did not please taking a school bus, so the
public bus to school.

Speaker 2 (01:48:01):
Well, they were saying this guy's going to be an
all time great when he was seventeen years old. He
is had to live with that pressure his entire career.
He didn't take a couple of years off to play
baseball like Michael Jordan did, by the way, which is,
by the way, a lot of wear and tear on
his legs that Michael Jordan didn't have Lebron James did
because after year one he only missed the playoffs one
other time. I think that was his first year with

(01:48:22):
the Lakers. He made the postseason every single year of
his career. Other than that, he has played the equivalent
of full like how many full regular seasons in just
playoff games?

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
I think his career.

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
It's insane Michael Jordan have to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
I agree with you. Plus, the game has changed so
much and it's more demanding and guys are getting hurt
all over the place, not because they're pussy willows because
they're all soft that and what do you mean players
have to do so much more in the half court.
I mean the way biggs have to guard up now
or have to guard down in a way, but have

(01:48:55):
to guard up on the perimeter all the time and
get involved in all these acts from back in the
day the kembe matumbo. It's like he guards this guy
one on one on the block, or he comes over
to help on the weak side, and that's it. Guys
are roaming much more now and have to guard out
there on the perimeter. Much more is demanded of you now.
So if you're wondering why there's so many injuries and

(01:49:16):
you think though they're just not as tough as they
used to be, it's like, I don't know, go watch
some of those games from the nineties. You can see
there's way less movement per possession than there is nowadays.
Very Brown's been playing in that with this level of longevity.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
And hasn't suffered a really really major in He hasn't
torn an achilles or torn acl or anything like that,
which is kind of spectacular.

Speaker 3 (01:49:38):
Yeah. I don't know if it's Tiger baumb or what
it is. Well, he's been relatively healthy without a major
major injury. The Salomon Hill ankle issue he still talks
about now that took something out of his athleticism.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
And he had a growing injury. I think that to
put him on the shelf for for a long stretch
of time early in as Laker tenure too. Let's go
to a holler in James in Minnesota. Oh no, yes,
holler and James going on.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
Why I'm here, big dad?

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
You got come on call before my Obama phone died?

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
And please don't hat that Obama.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
What is an Obama phone? I was not familiar with it.
With his game is that when he's he's running to
the helicopter and he looks at his phone then runs
back like, what's the Obama phone?

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
I have no idea the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
Obama phone was running before. O. J. Simpson was warning Hurts.

Speaker 3 (01:50:31):
Okay, you're talking about the Zach from Save By the
Bell phone, the big as phone.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
Yeah it's better. It's better than two kids and a
fishing line.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
I'm not convinced.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
Remember scree By the.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Yeah, he died tragically. Poor. He had some issues, to
say the least. Yeah, hollering James, what's on your mind tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
Brother looked out.

Speaker 9 (01:50:57):
In my mind, I think that le Bron maybe he
should have stuck with Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
After the Lakers had selected him to come to La.
He wanted to go to La. They tried to get
them a championship.

Speaker 9 (01:51:11):
Well, the figure of is it just didn't work out
when Luca went down and some other players got hurt
and they were really beat up, and they.

Speaker 4 (01:51:21):
Were facing a tough OKC team.

Speaker 9 (01:51:24):
They got by Houston, but they first tough OKC team
and they got by him, and they were beaten by
a good.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
San Antonio's Burs team. I'm not I'm not a dunkin
Kim Duncan fan, so won't be wrong. He was good
at Waite.

Speaker 9 (01:51:41):
Force, but and David Robinson was good in the Nighty,
all right, But I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
The thing with it is Lebrod had the help. Lebron's
could up there with Jordan's, but he didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
By so I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
I agree with you. First of all, Jordan basically did
have what would be considered a super team of the nineties.
Think about it this way, Jordan the best player to
guard Michael Jordan was on his team and Scottie Pippen.
Look whoere Pippen finished in the ninety three to ninety
four season, the entire year that Jordan first missed going
to baseball. In MVP voting, he was top five, Like

(01:52:21):
he was that good and he had Horace Grant with
the first three peat who was a stud. And then
he got Dennis Rodman with the second three peat and
John Paxson hitting shots and Steve Kerr and Ron Harper
was a phenomenon. They had a stacked team relative to
other teams in that era. Like to act like Michael

(01:52:43):
Jordan didn't have help. If you look at the numbers
during their playoff runs, yes, Jordan led them in most points,
but if you look at blocks, steals, rebounds, it's like, oh,
Pippen had to do all this stuff. Well, you look
at Lebron versus his team, he's basically Michael and Scotty
combined with the amount of workload that was on his

(01:53:06):
plate having to do everything out there.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
And also just do the experiment of look at the
teams that mj played against in the finals versus the
teams that Lebron played in the finals, and you tell
me he was better.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Objectively, Jordan is not beating those Spurs teams. He's not
beating those Golden State Warriors teams. I'm sorry. Maybe now
you if you want to say in twenty eleven, if
Jordan is on that Heat team against Dallas, sure yeah,
oh if Jan obviously you know, screwed the pooch in
that finals. He was awful. He still talks about it
to this day. It made him a better player and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
That might have been the only NBA finals he was
actually favored in that he lost.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Yeah, number correctly, that's probably true. But also true Jordan
lost three straight years to the Detroit Pistons. Oh he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:53:49):
Jordan won the championship every year he played.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
At what he didn't have opportunities to get to the
finals and lose. Oh, Jordan never lost the argument that, well,
Lebron's four and six in the finals and Jordan is
six and oh so Len was so good that he
could take crap teams to the finals that obviously we're
going to lose to superior competition and it hurts his
record in the finals, while Jordan just wasn't good enough
to get there where he would have ended up losing,

(01:54:12):
or he lost in the first round and got swept
multiple times in the first round by Larry Bird and
the Boston Celtics, and all these people are saying, well,
Lebron's been swept four times in the playoffs now and
they're going off about that because of what happened against Oka.
See Jordan got swept in the first round, but he
gets credit because he had sixty three in a game
against Boston eight A lost in a loss. When Lebron

(01:54:37):
James loses with a fifty point triple double in twenty
eighteen in game one against Golden State Warriors with KD
and they lose, Lebron was a good good enough that
didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
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Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
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Speaker 14 (01:55:41):
All righty guys, So you saw that Netflix announced the
new season of Quarterback that's coming out. Yes, and I
forgot already all four quarterbacks that were.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Now believe Jay McDaniels is one of them.

Speaker 13 (01:55:51):
And one of the headlines on the announcement of starting
quarterback isn't the guy.

Speaker 14 (01:55:55):
Who's the Texans quarterback again?

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
That I get shrouded one of them too?

Speaker 3 (01:55:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:56:00):
Yeah, So it got me thinking, if you can see
any three players NFL players and kind of like have
like a show or watch six episodes of their life,
if you have any kind of interest in that. I
mean we see a lot on social media anyway, but
it just in like a Netflix form past or present.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
Players, who would you choose?

Speaker 14 (01:56:19):
Okay, So my dad was is a huge Raiders fan,
and so he would tell me all these stories about
Kenny Stabler. Yeah, and like he would like read his
playbook by like the jukebox, and he was like wild
and crazy, very eccentric, very I would love to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
That is like fun, that would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
It was very fun from what I understand. Yes, let
that go out.

Speaker 14 (01:56:39):
That would be so fun to have like a little
camera on his head and be like, where's he going?

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
I don't know why? Okay, So that's one, give me
the go Pro? Yeah, all right, time travel and give
him a go Pro.

Speaker 14 (01:56:50):
The second one is Dion Sanders time time.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
That's great.

Speaker 14 (01:56:54):
You're you're two, you're managing two different pro sports, Like
how like you're training that? Like how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
By the way, you know he would have eaten that
alive played Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:57:06):
Can you imagine the endorsements for that too? That'd be insane.
So I just came up with an idea.

Speaker 7 (01:57:11):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:57:11):
And then just because I'm a homer and it's me
and obviously Jew Breese, Jew Breese, like that would be
so fun to.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
See that just a cookie cutter white guy.

Speaker 14 (01:57:24):
Your first segment and you were talking about like what
white guy fell on the court or something.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
I was like, oh my god, just so the listeners know,
she's pulling her finger at me. I heard your first segment.
I know what you said about white people. I don't.
I think I can do that because because I'm I.

Speaker 14 (01:57:39):
Was just waiting for like a Kyle korverdis or something,
and I was like not looking forward to that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
He's not white anymore. He's a vampire. You're so rude.

Speaker 14 (01:57:46):
Okay, Mark, You're up.

Speaker 10 (01:57:48):
So my three would be Terrell Davis because he was
just a great running back and I think he was
the one that helped John Elway and Denver get two
super Bowls also, So Terrell Davison and John l Way.
And then my third would be Leveon Bell because I
enjoyed the way he would get the buff as running

(01:58:08):
back and like pause and like skip his way through
the line and get past everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
So those three guys.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Bell definitely had an interesting career, to say the least.

Speaker 3 (01:58:18):
Do you have boxing or.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
Something at some point like it was?

Speaker 3 (01:58:20):
It sounds about right after a jump the celebrity career
a little bit something like that.

Speaker 14 (01:58:24):
Some online stuff too.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Oh definitely, yeah, yeah, uh, Kevin, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Want me to go?

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
My first person I thought of was Lawrence Taylor speaking.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
If you had cameras and a crew following somebody and
the lives that they lead. How do you not want
to be a fly on the wall to watch Lawrence
Taylor and watch Shenanigans he got into.

Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
Back in the day. Shenan Against is one way to
put it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Yeah, uh after and you know in that same vein
pac Man Jones, the man who's saying, like Roger Goodell
told me, I can't go to the script club. Ain't
then wrong going to the script club? Well, how do
you do? I want to see how you get down
to the script club? Dear at Pacman Jones, See what
else you do?

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Remember the crash out he had with the Bengals after
they lost that game they shouldn't have in the playoffs
to the Steeler, Say which one? It was a lot
of them. And then Lyle Alzada speaking of the Raiders
and speaking of people who were crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
Oh, Lyle Alzada was a defensive end. Uh, definitely went
off the deep end many times. I think he actually
passed away of cancer. It definitely was took a lot
of drugs in his life, but uh, he was very
much a character. He's very eccentric to say the least.
Those would have been my three.

Speaker 3 (01:59:23):
All right, I'll go with and start with Steve Smith. Now,
I'm not trying to do an episode of cheaters him
off the field with his affairs. The first time I've.

Speaker 2 (01:59:32):
Ever heard Steve Smith be speechless is when that woman's
husband called him, and my man had nothing to say,
I'm sorry, nothing to say, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
It's a question, is this what I was supposed to say?
I'm sorry. Kyle Turley would be another another character is
a former Saint for you. I appreciate that the old branch,
like she even knew.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Probably before your time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
Break helped the Saints beat the Rams in a playoff
game after they won that first Super Bowl, they kind
of had a down year. They still got into the playoffs.
They lost to the Saints and that was a division
rival at that time in the NFC West. Hell of
a game. Kyle Terrelly though he was a bit of
a wild man. Speaking of Kevin Green, I guess would

(02:00:18):
be my shore. That's another former Carolina Panther, but La
Ram Kevin Green. The behind the scenes NFL films miked
up stuff awesome, I guess Shannon Sharp honorable mention. Yeah,
when it comes to guys like that, if I can
see through the haze of smoke in front of the camera.
Ricky Williams, I guess will be interesting to interest one
to follow.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
Funny you get suspended twice, miss full seasons and come
back and still run for twelve hundred yards like you
never missed a beat.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Is incredible to me. With the Dolphins, yeah, see, might
be one of the great players of all time just
for that feat. That was domination, even though he lost
weight and got thinner after his first stint with the Dolphins.
Absolutely ridiculous. Weed makes you hungry, that's kind of weird.
That's the wrong but weed weed not correct. He was
smoking too much marijuana.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Here's the right button. That's what's just talking. Marvin, Thank you, Breed,
appreciate it. Thank you, Mike, thank you. Adam Project and
I coming up next here on FSR.

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