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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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(00:29):
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and Bail Crack Cracken Burger.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Oh, what is going on? Welcome in Happy Sunday to
your home all as well.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Man.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We got a lot to get into by the hoops.
But to Paul NFL news does not stop. Does it stop?
A little baseball? They'll don'll perk you up in the morning.
Here Crack, good morning to you, buddy, Good morning, Jeff.
Everything good with you, guys, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Everything is great. This has been a very fun at
college basketball tournament season, and I hope he continues. I
am very curious about tonight because tonight we have Selection.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Sunday and I made it a no about plus three
fifty on my am of Ohio being in the top
sixty four got them in the in the playing game.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
That'd be fun to say. I mean, they're they're start
to schedule right now, and I think they should be in.
It's like three fifty six out of three fifty eight,
I mean it is. It's not good. So curious I'm
workers about that tonight that I am sort of the
final results of the games today. I mean the games today,
Like you know, there are all the teams I think
are in, right if I'm correct on that, so well
except the IVY League one, right, I mean the winner

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of that only one one day lead. But you know,
Vandy's going to be in and and so we'll Arkansas,
and so we'll Purdue in Michigan. So getting to see
the opportunity of you know who the other team you
know is going to be to take my house spotter
or maybe now I'm excited to see that.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, guys, they you know, every year they screw
some of the mid majors. But it's it's interesting watching it,
you know, listening to the one me. I literally have
a TV on in the background and my line screen on,
and I watch to see which who comes up first,
because every year it's a battle of which sportsbook will

(02:18):
put the lines up first. Recently we've had a sports
book here in Nevada that would do a force bet,
and that means they agreed to come up first. But
every single game has to be bet for ten thousand
dollars by somebody, and now to somebody like a couple
of years ago, Derek Stevens that own Circle downtown. He
was the one that went over to South Point, and

(02:40):
you know, every game had to be bet, so they
had to bet ten thousand dollars. As each game came up.
They put a lineup before anyone else. And it was
interesting because he had a good advisor with him there.
And it didn't last long. I think it was two seasons,
and I don't I think the first season he broke even,
but I know it won the season he won, so, uh,

(03:01):
it's interesting and he's a very generous guy. I went
to the lost. I went to the Las Vegas Knights
game last night and uh, this is uh now. They
said ninth year in a row that they've given away
one hundred thousand dollars. Derek Stevens donated to a charity
with what that involves the Knights really cool. He was there,
so it was a fun time. Nights for up three
nothing in the first period, wound up winning four. Nothing

(03:23):
was really interesting. It was it was a fun They
do a great job here in Nevada. In Las Vegas.
I was not a big hockey fan until uh, Las
Vegas Knights came to The Golden Knights came to Las Vegas,
and uh, they're just fan friendly, children friendly, They do
so many things right. It's just what what a venue.

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And and I've been to other hockey games and other
hockey cities, nothing like nothing like Las Vegas when it
comes to hockey.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's been a big hit there, There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And they've been good too, which also helps. Yes, absolutely
if you are or expansion team, who's terrible. I mean
obviously you know people excited it for the for the
newness of that, but being very good, that's been very
helpful for the Nights.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Right to the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah yeah, right, Like.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
I wonder how much that's meant for not to do
a whole Vegas thing. We'll get to the college hoops
reaction from yesterday in a second, but I wonder how
much that means because I've gone to a couple of
UNLV basketball games and the record isn't as good as
the Knights, but with the Knights being such a draw,
you'd be able to tell me better than anyone cracktly
how much is that meant for UNLV's attendance, Because you

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go there, it's like the old Western's.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Like wow wow wow wow.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
It's just tumbleweed, like just flowing in the breeze. There's
no one there, there's no one's UNLV games.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Do the Knights cut into that quite a bit?

Speaker 5 (04:45):
I think they do. I think, I mean the Knights
like Shaw at every game. I mean the place is
always packed and uh, you know what to It's not
the U n l V you know, back with like
TARC though, but I mean yeah, it's still though there
is there is still a talk of what we want
to go to a great game or go to a
great We had big tournament here this past week and

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Gonzaga was here.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean we had we.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Had We had a lot of a lot of things
going on this weekend, the Orleans Arena and stuff. It's
you can really get right up there for good decent
prices too. I couldn't believe the tournament prices were actually
really really reasonable for people to go come see you know,
a torment here. I thought it was really good last night.
You know, I'm tough on Las Vegas. I'm very tough

(05:30):
on Nevada, very tough on Las Vegas, very tough on
the casinos. As I was driving and I had to
meet some people, and I went to park MGM, right
next door to the arena. I just was sitting in
the parking lot looking at the crowds coming in, look
kind of how cool they had, the different setups and
the music stage, and I just was like, this is

(05:52):
really cool. I don't put enough time into thinking how
cool living in Las Vegas is. I'm just trying to
stick up for Joe Public and trying to help them.
This is a pretty cool town, man. They do a
lot of things, right, you know. I just my head's
always on a swivel here. I just know what casinos,
different situations. But just looking at what was going on

(06:13):
in the last couple of days, the concerts, the sphere,
the team mobile, and like you said, you wont LV
and we had and then we have, you know, some big,
big basketball tournaments here. I'm tough on Las Vegas, but
this is a pretty cool town, man, pretty cool town
to live in.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, a lot to do.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
You're gonna score me tickets to Metallica pretty soon at
the sphere, we're excited about that. Thank you krap In
Advance for that. Very nice of you, very generous. But yeah,
always something going on. How about the games yesterday college
hoops wise, and it's not just about yesterday, it's what
it means for the big dance, right the NCAA tournament
coming up soon. I think the most significant result was

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Vanderbilt not just beating Florida, who has been bulldozing teams.
Vanderbilt smacked Florida around. They win ninety one to seventy,
And to me, the bigger picture is we're talking about
this a little bit yesterday on the Saturday version of Countdown,
where I think it's gonna be really tough. Let's say
the top eight teams. It's gonna be tough for the

(07:12):
non top eight teams to even get to the final four.
It's just so top heavy. The top teams are really
really good. But you see, like Vanderbilt smacking Florida, there
are a lot of teams that are more than capable
the non top eight of beating the top eight teams
in a one game scenario. So those top eight teams
just surviving those four games to get to the final four.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Some of those guys are gonna get picked off left and.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Right, maybe a little bit earlier than you think. So
I'm excited to see how that plays out.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, I'm not concerned about Florida losing a game like that.
I mean, you know, I don't know, and maybe that
helps them refocus before that. I do kind of buy
the idea that maybe losing a game like that before
you enter the tournament, it's not the worst thing in
the world, and it doesn't affect they're seeding much at all.
If anything. Right, maybe they're now a two seed, but
they're gonna be in the South region. I mean, it's
not gonna bother them that much, I don't think in

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the end. But you know that I do subscribe to
that theory. I'm actually so one thing I'm very curious
about heading into the tournament. You're right about the top seeds.
You know, there's Arizona keeps impressing me. I keep dying
them because they can't make any threes. But they're they're
a good team, man, and they're gonna be fun to
watch Michigan playce Purdue today. Florida. I was kind of
shocked at Yukon getting drubbed yesterday by Saint John's.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah time.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
But the thing that I'm curious to see is this
year we had a lot of madness in the mid
major tournaments where a lot of these one seeds that
were gonna be the auto bids did not win their
tournament and they're out. They're not gonna be in. And
those were the teams most often that won the five

(08:49):
to twelve game, the four to thirteen game when they're
the twelve and thirteen seed, right, the fourteen seed, right,
they're out now, and now you're gonna get replacements that
are much worse like the sixth seed in amount West,
I mean Missouri Valley right, the seventh seed in this conference.
And I think we're gonna have very few upsets in
the first two rounds and to set us up for
a Sweet sixteen that might be very chalky. And to

(09:11):
your point, Brian, the teams that are here in those
games can beat the other teams, right, because a lot
of you know, those upsets might carry over to get
a ten seed. This with team I'm not sure we're
getting at this year. I really don't think that because
a lot of those teams that were the ones that
could have pulled off those upsets are on the tournament
anymore because they lost in their conference in their conference tournament.
So that's all I'm looking forward to them seeing sort

(09:33):
of where are there gonna be upsets in the first
couple around Counting by the way around of sixty four
and thirty two, I think we're gonna get a lot
chalk this year.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Man.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Yeah, Florida still most likely getting the number one seed there,
but this loss does show some of their vulnerable ability there.
I don't think this team is quite as good as
last year's team. They don't have that go to superstar
like they did last year with Clayton. You know, but
you watch these things. I like something you said there, Jeff.

(10:03):
By watching the game, I thought to myself, hmm, can
that loss help them a little bit? You're right, So
sometimes I lost, can maybe put them in check a
little bit, just to let them know, you know, this
was a by the way, I mean, it was a
you know, seventeen point loss there, so yeah, but with
Vanderbilt smacking them around, so anyway, sometimes they do need
a loss there. But again, I don't think they're quite

(10:25):
as good as last year's team.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah, it's if you look at some of these top
teams and either losing or really close calls. If you
look at Duke Duke's here, number one team in the
country right now, and they barely beat Florida State, They've
got a couple of injuries that are going to affect them,
so they're not as strong as they once were. At
other parts in this season. You look at Michigan, Michigan

(10:47):
barely beat Wisconsin. You know, Florida just got freaking crushed
by Vanderbilt. So it's one of these things. These are quality,
quality teams and it's going to be tough to beat
them when the real turn rolls around. But they're beatable.
They're all beatable, and the the odds are they've got
a much better chance to make it to the final four,

(11:09):
I'm just saying, And the conference tournaments show you as much.
They're more than capable of going down earlier than you think.
So I can't wait to see how that plays out.
There are teams that you know, Saint John's just has
a night and it's like, well, you're probably gonna go
down if they're on their A game. There are a
lot of teams that if they bring their A game,
they're capable of beating the biggest and baddest teams in

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the country.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And that's what makes this tournament so unique, right, compared
to other sports that have multiple game series to determine
who moves on the next round, it's just one game.
You have one game where you can't make threes, one
game where you just can't find the bottom of the net,
one game where you do this and that and you're out.
And it makes this tournament really, you know, a lot
of fun, a lot of fun to watch. It's it's
why we like it. But you'll get back to the idea.
Like two things. One is that in these conference tournaments,

(11:55):
you're sort of playing for your life right. Obviously not
in literal sense, but you're playing for your your basketball right.
And so I think you just get better. Teams just
finished better than the games they do in January. So
a team Micha Wisconsin yesterday is down ten points, they
just claw their way back, and I think in the
regular season they lose that game by seventeen, you know,
but like they're there's to fight, like they're just it's
the last game they get to play, right, maybe as

(12:16):
a group, you know, and they're gonna be a tournament team.
But the fact is, like it, the calculus to me
is a little bit different in the end of these games,
because you know, one team is trying to advance, like
Michigan's like, I just gotta get to the next round.
I don't really care how this looks, and one team's
I gotta I gotta fight and claw and scratch. So
I don't know how much I take away as far
as like changing my opinion about either of those teams.

(12:38):
One team that I will tell you though, I have
my eye on, dude, you sla. If they can play
out West for the first two rounds, they're going to
Sweet sixteen. Yesterday they played Perdue. They're out their their
leading scorer. Then Dent got hurt six nine minutes in.
They're out their two best players. Fought and clawed against Perdue,
who I think gets blown out today by Michigan. We'll

(12:59):
talk about that and potentially a little bit UCLA, Madam.
They beat Michigan State, they at home. They beat Nebraska
at home by twenty. They beat Michigan State two days ago,
Like they can win these big games. They're very talented,
and they've been much better on the West coast this
year than playing out east, and so they're a team
if they get the right draw, they're a team I'm
looking at to. I'll probably probably put away on them

(13:21):
to be a Sweet sixteen team, So kind of you know, again,
this all matters of the draw, where you're at, and
what's happening with with with a tournament. Quick note, by
the way, how about this, guys, you might enjoy this
or not. On the women's side, there's a game today
featuring team that was seven and twenty four in the
regular season. They won three straight conference tournament games and

(13:42):
they're playing today to go to the dance. They were
seven and twenty four this season. Wow, and they won three.
They won three straight games. They beat the two and
three seed in there in the Missouri Valley. Their opponent
shot fifty nine percent from the foul line in the
last two games and twenty percent from three and now
they're in the championship.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
How big of an underdog were they, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Uh, yesterday I think it was like ten and a
half points. Say they're facing the one seed who's thirty
and three they're probably gonna be a fifteen point hundred dogs,
and there's another ten win team and a different conference
game today looking to make it too. I mean imagine
like that'd be Old Miss, right, be Old Miss playing
today in the men's side for a chance. You'd be

(14:23):
like four and fourteen and sec they're in the conference
title game. That's it's it's this is but this is this,
This is this week right, Like this is just what
this week is. You have this this randomness, which is
why we walked. You know, like college basketball so much,
we like I don't like it, but I think people
do like sort of the failure part of it, Like
we just watch teams melt and then these games you're like,

(14:43):
what is happening? How can you not make a shot?
How can you not inbound the ball? How could you not?

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Like you?

Speaker 2 (14:48):
You know, Saint Louis got Saint Louis yesterday got a
five second violation with twenty seconds left. If you got
one all season, you get the bowl and bound it
was off a time out, Like what are we doing? Wow?

Speaker 6 (15:00):
I just have to say, man, like crack, I hate
I hate I hate that, I hate this, but I
hate it is you can be asleep at the wheel.
The team is seven and twenty four, and you win
your conference tournament, you're in. No questions asked. I hate that.
I wish that if you won your conference championship it
wasn't an automatic bid. It would factor in greatly into

(15:22):
whether you got the one bid from that conference or not.
But listen, man, if you've been asleep all season long,
you should be drawing dead at seven and twenty four.
I don't care that you win your conference tournament. You're
not going. I wish it would be like that. It's
not going to be. I think it's far worse. You
know how I feel about the NFL. And if you
win your sucky division, you automatically get a home game.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
What college basketball does.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
You're seven and twenty four and you win four games
in a row in your conference tournament, you're in. We
won't even ask any questions. It's so bad, man, It's
really bad.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
The thing about it, though, is like it's why we
like college bout. So it's over, like your unfathomable run.
I went to a Torvik's website.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
He does.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
He has women's basketball analytics on there. I felt that
the last ten games for this team that's Evansville. The
last ten games are four and six in the last
ten games like one three in a rowing conference tournament.
There's still the defensive rating for the last ten games,
including four wins, is three hundred and thirty fourth.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Oh my gosh, and they're one the forty.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Away today, forty minutes away today I from being in
the conference tournament in their best stretch of the season.
Three hundred and thirty fourth in defensive rating. Like, that's
that's what the madness is that this it's why we
like it, right, Like I don't, I told you it's four.
My biggest problem in college basketball is the meltdowns. Right,
We're like other sports. I feel like in the biggest
moments in pro sports, especially in college football, teams tend

(16:46):
to rise, right like we A team might stink a
little bit, but it team tends to rise. College basketball,
it's like days just score for five minutes. I don't
know how it happens, Brian, but it happens all the time.
I don't like that style of sport. Essentially, that's why
we like it. We like to watch the moutdowns, man,
we like to watch them.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Yeah, do you guys like rooting for like a Cinderella
every year. They're like to no, okay, so you want
to just keep those I'm team because.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Ye case crack every now and then. I love good
here right, here's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Here's right. Yeah, okay, one is okay. But if I'm
going to spend my time, like hey, kids, family, I
want to watch the college basketball game, I want to
watch the best teams play, the best players play. Yeah, Like,
let's say Arkansas gets knocked out early and I don't
get to watch more a cuff, like, why would I
want to watch another team plays that have watched him play?
You know, Like, yeah, I want to watch the best

(17:37):
teams play. That's just it's my my two hours of
the day. The underdog stories are great, you know that
came from Oakland a couple of years ago, making forty
five threes in two games. But I kind of just
want to watch the best players. And that's the way
I feel about it.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Yeah, I feel like in the moment a great upset
is awesome, but for the next game probably not as awesome.
You know, all right, he's my friends from home. They
get together, They've done it for almost three decades now.
Everybody comes home, they watch the games like crazy, and
everybody roots for upsets, and here I am like rooting
for the favorite, and they're like, who invited this guy?

(18:14):
But more times than not, that's the way it goes
because it's going to be a better matchup for the
next round.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Typically people put.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
The money on the underdogs. Of course, as we get
to you know, you guys will be there next weekend
and you're you know everyone's route they got that I'm
gonna make that money in the underdog. I'm gonna It's like, yes, sure,
but time over time.

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Takes here on what happened with the So the Ravens
they backed out of their trade agreement with the Raiders.
That was according to the Raiders. They're like they backed out.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
There was a.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Max Crosby who they traded two first round picks for
the Ravens were like a you know, the Medicals came
back failed as physical, no things, no deal. Instead, the
Ravens pivot and they signed Trey Hendrickson as a free agent,
signed him to a big deal.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
I just think this.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
This is the simplest way I can lay it out.
Max Crosby is a great player, but he's not two
first round picks better than Trey Hendrickson. We just can't
sleep on Hendrickson, man. And I know Max is a
lot younger and that matters. He's almost three years younger
than Trey Hendrickson. But Hendrickson still has a lot of
good football left. And I just think that, especially with

(21:46):
the Ravens, that's the key. A team that has drafted
so well, having those two first round picks, that's not
the equivalent of other teams that just waste picks left
and right. If you look at what the Ravens have done,
they drafted Lamar, they drafted Tyler Linderbaum, they drafted Kyle Hamilton,
and they drafted Hamilton, who was a defensive baller.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Shout out Irish right, fourteenth overall pick.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
That's one of the two picks they got back for
not having traded for Max Crosby. So I think with
the Ravens the way they've drafted in the first round,
I think they're better off with those two first round
picks and Trey Hendrickson than just Max and no two
first round picks.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
That's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Well, if I give you the options of you know,
Max Crosby and you lose the two first round picks
or tre Hendrickson and you keep them, you would to
the tre Hendrickson deal every time. Yeah, And that's what
this comes down to, right. So a couple things here.
You know, I saw the scuss as week about the
physical part of this thing, right, And physicals are subjective. Okay.

(22:49):
You can look at an imaging MRI X ray, a
CT scan, blood work if you want to use blood
work and come to a long term conclusion. That's different
every single time you look at it. Right. So, if
you have a bad knee, or you eve a knee
injury like Crowsby has, and they you looked at it.
One of the doctors supposed he was the guy who

(23:10):
works in for the Cowboys, is one of the top
surgeons of the country. He looked at it and they
determined that, you know, the damage was too extensive or
there's cartilage issues or whatever. They said that we don't
feel comfortable with his knee long term. Another team might
look at it and say, no, we're fine with that, right,
very famously happened with Drew Brees's shoulder right one. The
Dolphins said no, the Saint said yes, and history is

(23:33):
done right, completely different. So the Ravens didn't fake a
fail physical. Now do I think that they realized this
deal wasn't good for them and they used the physical
to get out of it. Yes, I think I think
that's what they did. Yeah, And that's what they did.
And again, they didn't do anything wrong. The league year
begins on that on Wednesday. Any trade agreed upon before

(23:57):
then is not official. We saw assumingly began the Rams
and Chiefs tweeted out Trey McDuffie's deal, right, because that's
when it officially becomes official. The Ravens crack did what
they're allowed to do. The other part of this, that
kind of it kind of just screwed the rest of
the NFL because the NFL moved on. They made their
deals in the next coming days based off of Crosby

(24:21):
going to be a Baltimore Raven. The Cowboys went and
traded for Shaun Gary right. Other teams got their their
deals lined up. The Raiders spent like a billion dollars
in contracts and oh uh, you a had Max Crossey
back to the salary cap, right, So they kind of
just screwed the rest of the league in essence. But
if I told you the Raiders had the freegency hall,
they did, and you add Max Crossey back in, it's

(24:41):
a much better football team in Vegas now.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Like you guys said, the Ravens really moved quickly from
backing out of Max Crosby deal. They needed an edge
rush for badly and got moment had Henrickson and four years,
one hundred and twelve million. I don't think they're done too.
I think they're not done with this free agency market.
I'll probably go after another edge rusher. I've heard Clowney's

(25:05):
name as a possible ad for the Ravens, but it's clear, uh,
new coach, new defense, we're the top priorities for the
Ravens to keep a little more happy. I have a
question though, now when this situation comes up and they
announced it and people were like, you know that you
already thought that you had him being a Ravens fan,
or we thought we lost him here being in Las Vegas,

(25:26):
a Las Vegas fan doesn't usually isn't usually the physicals
and all that stuff done ahead of time or like
before they announced the trade or is that just that
just happens sometimes.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
No, So you're not allowed to really get any any
medical information of a player while they're still on another team.
So when the trade is announced, then you're allowed to
I think, share medical information. And so you can't do
a physical either, and I think it was a third
party physical, Like they went like, so what the trade

(25:58):
announce you're allowed to do those things, crack. But as
a free agent, you know, you're you don't Teams don't
have that information on you until you sign with them,
and then they and then they get the information. So
when you have injured like that, they got a third
party right there, the Cowboys doctor, look at team doctor.
You can do that, but yeah, there's no real information

(26:20):
you know publicly. You know, you know publicly, and you
talk to the agent and you trust the agent, but
you really don't call the team doctor and they're like hey, man,
like until you have that player under contract. That's that's
sort of the rules of the league.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Okay, Yeah, interesting, I think too. If you look at
the legal tampering period, it doesn't exactly apply to this
Max Crosby situation. It does a little bit, but it
gets me thinking about when you have verbal agreements that
that should stick, right, that we shouldn't wait until the
new league year and then it's official. We've seen other situations.

(26:53):
Eric Kendricks as a linebacker, he had a verbal agreement
a couple of years ago with the forty nine ers
and instead he's like, you know what, I'd rather go
to the Cowboys instead. It's like, if you have a
verbal agreement in place, we shouldn't have to wait until
the new league year rolls around and now it's official.
It should stay official, and then it's just you know,
dotting eyes crossing t's and then it's official official when

(27:15):
the new league year rolls around. But I don't like
when these verbal agreements are in place and then we
just we change it on the fly. And to your point, Jeff,
this Max Crosby trade, Okay, the Ravens get Max.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
The medical should be done.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
Immediately, and if there's a change, if there's something that
was unforeseen and all of a sudden, the Raven's like.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
It, man, his knee is in this shop. We didn't
think his knee was in this shape.

Speaker 6 (27:38):
This changes everything that should happen almost instantaneously. It shouldn't
drag out over the course of a couple of days
and then it's like, oh, yeah, that trade's no longer
in place. That shouldn't be the way it goes down.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It shouldn't. But again, the long term health of the
knee is just subjective to anyone who reads the MRI,
you know, like yeah, and like another team might read
it and go, we don't have a problem with it.
The Raiders don't have a problem with it, right clearly,
like they're fine with it. So that that makes us
The whole hard part about this whole thing is that
you know you can fail anyone you want. I mean
I I you know I. I could have had an opportunity.

(28:14):
There's this insurance policy with the NFL where essentially, if
you have to retire because of injury, you get a
certain percent of your contract and then up to like
it's not two million dollars, but it was like one
point one million dollars. When I was playing, all you
have to do is fail physical and I want to
keep playing. I was dumb. I should have lost a

(28:35):
lot of money. It's just retired and taking this money.
But I could have walked in the doctor's office have
been like you just fail me. Yeah, like mikels I
feel good still yeah fail. It's like it's so it's
not like some it's not like some some some crazy
process like that that that you can get failed. My
brother did this and he was he was not healthy.

(28:56):
But I'm if Mitch wanted to, he certainly could have
probably played football still, but his back was never really healed.
And he's like they failed them and he got the
insurance policy, Like you know, you can do that, Like
that's not this that's so to me, that's like the
most uninteresting part of this whole thing. And people are, well, no,
they did something everyone else to do. They can fail physical. Uh.

(29:17):
The question is is you know, if they were just
signing him without the draft picks, they would have kept
him on the team, but they don't want to give
them two first round picks, which makes sense.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
By the way, I would love if you capped that
story about your brother, if you were like, he failed
the physical, got the insurance money, and now he uses
it to bet on women's college basketball.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I would love that end of this story.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I tell you, man, this team, this team is killing
me small. This team is like there, they keep winning
these games. It's like unprecedented. Man, they keep winning these games.
Maybe taste the day, Maybe tayste the day I get
the money.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
Back on, Jeff, does your brother or father liked anyone
gamble in the family?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Mix doesn't gamble.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
He'll text me every now and then about gambling stuff.
But he doesn't know. My parents are in California anyways.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
Oh I know, But that doesn't mean they can't find it.
Your dad can't find a up and down that host?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, bookmaker.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Not using I gonna do.

Speaker 6 (30:05):
The walk of shame like I'm down this week. I
got to meet him at the I Hot parking lot.
He's not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
No, he's not doing that. He's not he's not using
those predicture markets. Obviously they're they're very popular now and
uh in the space. He's not not do any of that.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
There's plenty of bookmakers up and down that coast does
plenty of hymen's himis? I mean, uh, maybe he just
got of you know. I went I went to his
house and interviewed him for my podcast, and he was
going into jail that week, and he gave me an
interview in the first interview before you know, any other

(30:42):
source got him. It was a good interview. Went to jail,
and now last week he did get to he's at
a halfway house now and uh yeah, no, you know,
he's willing to talk about things so openly. He wants
to help others, talk about his problems when gambling. I
know he won all this money being a bookmaker and
then lost it all, lost all the money in the casino.

(31:04):
So I always say, in the end, the casinos get
all the money, like Robert de Niro says, right in
we casino, in the end, we get it all. Imagine that.
Do you imagine this guy lost fourteen million in one casino. So,
I mean, it's just to talk about. But he did
get out of jail. Now he's in a halfway house
and we wish him the best.

Speaker 6 (31:23):
I'm glad you brought us up to date with that.
He's got a really interesting story. He's a tremendous interview
on this show. Crag got him on this show, so awesome.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Yeah, very cool. That's right, that's right. I just talk
about that. That's right here with us.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
No you're good.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Would you lose that much money? Dude? You at least
get like a comper room every now and then.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's I don't know if
he went into Black Book or not. We have a
Black Book here. It would be hard to believe the
Black Book being in there with al Capone. I mean,
but yeah, there's not with only thirty nine people I
think in the Black Book. Really, yeah, that's all. Now,
this is the Black Book. This isn't the book. That
there is casino companies here that there's there are two

(32:02):
different companies. I think it's called I'm metrics. Now I'm
trying to think of the new one here that took
over for Griffin and Griffin Investigations. Griffin Griffin, the Griffin Book.
It's not that book. That book has you know, thousands
of people that cheated or you know blackjack card counters.
By the way, it's not cheating, but she's using your brain.

(32:23):
But certain people are in the book for certain things.
That's not the book. The book. The Black Book means
you're not allowed in. Uh, you guys, remember when the
Joe Pesci character they had, yeah, fifty miles out of
town and he goes, well, what if I like one
of those sandwiches and I want to come? And he goes,
you don't even know how in the parking.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Lot right by the way.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
I don't know if you know this or not, Crack,
but someone who potentially is listed in that black book
would be Isaac Loewenkron might be the list.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I don't know if you can confirm it that.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
This is amazing. I'm looking at the Black Book right now.
I'd never known this has existed. This is amazing.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Are you at the top of the list right there?

Speaker 9 (33:04):
No, But I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 9 (33:06):
This is a This is a rough looking man of characters,
and they all seem to have middle names. Yes, yeah,
not the kind of people that. By the way, I
have a totally unrelated black book story. It is a
little black book story. Legend has it that many years ago,
an NFL team was flying on a chartered plane and

(33:28):
the chartered plane had some trouble and for a few
moments it looked like the plane was going down. And
so what happened was one of the married players on
the team took out his little black book and started
ripping it into pieces.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Oh no, Apparently.

Speaker 9 (33:52):
Whatever happened to the plane, he did not want it
to be found in the potential wreckage.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
So fortunately, because of the Cruz heroics, everything turned out
to be fine. But apparently this person's Little Black Book
was destroyed. And I will not reveal the name or
the player, but that was a story that went through
NFL circles. Let's talk about some college basketball circles. On
Saturday evening, Number one Duke when it's second straight ACC tournament,

(34:22):
beating tenth rank Virginia seventy four to seventy. Number two
Arizona won the Big Twelve Tournament over fifth ranked Houston
seventy nine seventy four. Number thirteen Saint John's when it's
second straight Big East Tournament they beat sixth ranked Yukon
seventy two to fifty two. California Baptist the Lancers going
to the NCAA Tournament for the first time ever, winning
the WHAC championship game over Utah Valley sixty three sixty one.

(34:44):
Hawaii won the Big West Tournament over UC Irvine seventy
one sixty four. NBA Saturday Night Lakers over Denver in overtime,
one twenty seven to one to twenty five. Luka Doncic
to the game winning jumper with point five to play. Finally,
in the quarterfinals of the World Baseball Class, Venezuela eliminated
defending champion Japan eight to five. Here is how Wilner

(35:06):
abray us go ahead three run home runs sounded in
Spanish on Fox Deportes.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
Exeth fay see despellya Samellabramo Carrera la.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I mean it's Sela Carrera.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I think.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Jack, how about you? Yeah, come oo back to you guys.
Love that love the passion of the WBC. It's been
a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
We also glad that Jeff survived that plane and he
got rid of the black bubb.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's exactly right, man.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
I can just see an NFL player feversly just ripping
it apart like this is not good.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
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Speaker 3 (37:19):
All right, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Check this out our late letter.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
Ah, yes, the platter we had it last week, Jeff,
we had it, and there was a garbage three in
garbage time and it screwed everything up. Outrageous or was
it like North Dakota and I don't know who was playing.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
In and out and back in? Oh my CLV bet Yeah,
the next day with CLV craps. You'd be happy to
hear that I could get went back.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Oh I thought we actually won that.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I'll know because that's screwed.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Was that last second? Three?

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Three went out? Remember I got two points of CLV.
It didn't matter, just lost.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
Anyways, unreal and it took down the platter. Unfortunately we
were close, We were this close. So let's get over
the finish line today, crack.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
We start with you. What's your leg in the parlor?
All right?

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Well, uh, I won this one two weeks ever, I
wing an NBA play, which is very rare. I don't
really put so many NBA plays MGM. And what the
nine and a half on this game? Minnesota Timberwolves plus
nine and a half is going to be my portion
of the platter. First Oklahoma City ten AM game here
in Vegas. So I'm glad we did this a little
bit early. Minnesota Temple Wolves plus nine and a half.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
There you go, Wow, Yeah, I was eyeing that one.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Crack was really yeah. I was yeah, good, no good pick.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Hopefully if it's not, I'll be like it was cracks.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Idea, I had nothing to do with.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
It, all right, So a couple options here from my
part of the of the of the platter here, I'm
gonna go with with Michigan laying the six and a
half today against Purdue. You know, maybe it's a by.
Every time I watch pretty play, I come away just
like not as impressed I should be. Ucla yesterday was

(39:06):
down their two best players and the game was a
one point game with like three minutes left. I just
produe just has these moments where they just that's okay.
I want to little something more from them. This tame
Ovisyne matters a lot to Michigan. In to Purdue, Michigan
survived the Wisconson Gaming they played a rivalry game. Basically,
they played a Michigan State a ROVERI game with one
by ten. They played another Rovaly int Ohio State one

(39:27):
by four. Survive what's caused? I think today they bring
their best game. I'll have to cover the six and a.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Half, all right.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
I normally don't love taking the over in NBA games
when it's a huge number, but I'll make exceptions from
time to time. Jazz and Kings, give me over two
thirty three and a half. It's just gonna be an
absolute track meet. No one's playing any defense whatsoever. They're
two tanking teams and they're just out there. They're having
fun and they're just letting it rip. So I think

(39:55):
it's going to be a score fest. That's your late
late night game, ten o'clock on the East Coast.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
But give me the jazz in Kings, how about that?

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Hopefully it comes down to that and you're gonna have
to sweat out Jazz Kings over two thirty three and
a half across our fingers on that one.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
But I'll just probably text I'll wake up to the
finals all on there.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
I'll be like Jeff, we had a last second three
point attempt, it rimmed in and out.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
We didn't get the over.

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Unfortunately, it's probably the way it's gonna go down, but no,
there should be a lot of points scored in this game.
And you know, Westbrook last night played very well against
the Clippers. Clippers have been playing really good basketball. They
lose as thirteen and a half point favorites to the
lowly Sacramento Kings last night, and Russell Westbrook.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Had a triple double. So we'll see.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
We'll see if Westbrook and the Kings can run it
back second straight night hosting the Jazz.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
But it should be a lot of points. Yeah, good
two sides back to back weeks for you in the NBA.
I love that crack very nice.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
And that Timberwolves game that you pointed out starts right
away right after the show, like at one o'clock, just
one hour after we get off the air, Little mattin
a action on ABC.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
There you go very hard to beat NBA sides, So
I put it right there with NFL sides, especially with
injury information, lineups, who comes out and who's playing, it
gets really tough. In NBA. There's not many people I
know that can beat NBA sides. Long term totals props,
of course, but sides are really tough. So you guys,

(41:27):
really don't do so much, not a lot on sides. Right,
you are, you're more college than NBA.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Correct, we'll do NBA playoffs finals too much now Tho.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
Yeah, yeah, I probably I probably bet more NBA than
college shoots.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
To be honest with you, yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
Never really broke it down with sides. I don't know
what probably props totals then sides. I think that'd be
the last in the pecking quarter. All right, coming up next,
it is official with this player. Oh, welcome in, Happy
Sunday to you as we got hoops on the brain,
Little baseball on brain, next hour ball always on the brain.

(42:03):
Meeting football, of course, it is official Kyler Murray signing
with the Minnesota Vikings. We have many thoughts to share
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(42:23):
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BETEMGM across all socials at BETMGM. All right, So, Kyler
Murray officially has signed with the Vikings for the Veteran
League minimum. Of course, the Arizona Cardinals picking up most
of the tab Arizona pays him almost thirty seven million dollars.
The Vikings will pay him just over one million dollars.

(42:46):
So sweet deal for the Vikings financially. The question is
how sweet of a deal will it be production wise?
And listen, Kyler Murray has a lot of ability. He's
been in the league for seven seasons and he's lit
the NFL world on fire.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
And I don't know if you guys how you feel
about this. I'm very curious, but it just seems like
there's so much optimism with Kyler Murray right now, where
it's like, you.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
Guys, realize, this is the same guy that we've largely
been talking trash about for the last seven years now,
right Like I get that he's got Justin Jefferson, a
very shrewd offensive play caller, and Kevin O'Connell, But I
don't know that's gonna be enough for him production wise
to be like, whoa, this guy all of a sudden

(43:32):
has put everything together. I just he's got ability, but
he doesn't have consistency whatsoever. So I'm just surprised there
there's as much optimism as there is. I know he's
way better than JJ McCarthy, but I mean that's not
saying anything. Is he gonna be better to the point
where he's one of the better, you know, NFC quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I don't know that he's gonna be.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
That in Minnesota at all. So I'm surprised there's as
much optimism as there is.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
To me, it has to be because Kevin O'Connell has
done a really good job as a head coach and
as a play caller that people are excited for Colin
Murray right like that. That feels the reason why. Otherwise,
I think if it was anywhere else, people wouldn't be

(44:20):
as excited. But because it's Kyler Murray, it does feel
like that's the reason why. I mean, it is Kevin O'Connell.
That's the reason why people think this is gonna work.
It's a good offensive line, it's a good run game.
You got you got Jefferson, and you got Addison, and
you have you have, you know, the the ability to

(44:42):
to create offense easily. You think to yourself, Okay, well
we can use Murray's legs. You know, he's got a
good defense that doesn't have to do a ton to win.
But you're right, I mean at times, you know, there's
situation where he's been in the spot in Arizona all
the time. It hasn't lived up to the expectations, So
I probably I don't think it's gonna be a slam

(45:06):
dunk like people think it's going to be. I feel
much better about this than Milike Willis, by the way, Okay,
guessing on who has a better career now moving forward,
I do get in Lake Willis in the second here, guys,
But Tyler Murray, I think it's fine. I'm not adjusting
a wind total really crack on the Vikings very much

(45:27):
on this.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah, well, I mean I think it's a pretty good
move for the Vikings that they're they're really own full
steam ahead after firing on the GM this this pickup
has O'Connell's name all over it. Like you said, Jeff,
I think they realize McCarthy just isn't the quarterback they
thought he would be, or at least know that they
need a better plan, uh than Carson wentz next to him. Anyway,

(45:51):
Remember the Vikings were nine to eight last year with
an absolutely horrible quarterback, So healthy Murray could turn them
back into maybe the thirteen win team like they were
with Darnold. Murray needs to stay healthy, though, but if
he can get back to us form of a couple
of years ago, the Vikings will be a threat. This season.
They were a big disappointment for all of us who

(46:11):
thought they were going to do good this year. I
didn't even realize they won nine games, So I had
to look at it and say, what were they worth
last year?

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Right?

Speaker 5 (46:19):
How did they have a winning record after that?

Speaker 3 (46:20):
I know, it's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
They had to get to nine to eight with the
troubles that they had behind center last year. Is like, wow,
if they had good quarterback play, they're a double digit
win team easily, and who knows where it goes from there.
But yeah, it's one of these deals where look, man,
they had to move on from JJ McCarthy. He's just
not ready and he only had ten starts, you know,

(46:44):
like the only ten starts in the NFL. But he's
not ready and their roster is, and so they had
to pivot to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
It makes sense, but it's a rough deal in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (46:55):
Man, you get hurt your rookie year, second year, you're
banged up here, and there only ten starts, and it's
like we're moving on basically, and they I love all
these like they're not giving up on JJ McCarthy in
any way. It's like, Okay, okay, yes they are.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
They absolutely are, They absolutely are. You're right, But you know,
the thing that frustrates to me about these situations is
the mismanagement of the quarterback. Knowing you draft a guy
who needs development, right, so you draft development, then you decide,
you know what, we're done with that, which is a
totally thing to do. But you've never even give McCarthy
a chance, right, Anthon Richard had never got a chance Indianapolis.

(47:30):
You draft these guys that need the reps and you
don't give them the reps. And there's reasons for that, injuries,
I get all that. I think McCarthy started. Is it
ten game is not like six? I think it's like
ten barely, barely barely in the NFL. And I mean,
you drafted reps, you can give them the reps. What
do you expect is going to happen? So, yeah, Murray

(47:53):
is not brought in to be a backup by the way,
no chance, no chance.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
Yeah, it's tough because it kind of works both ways
where I totally agree with what you're saying, Jeff, that's
not much of a chance. But it's also like when
JJ McCarthy was in there, he he didn't give himself
a chance to remain the starter, you know, like he
was that bad when they're when the vikings are like, yeah,
in practice, we're kind of going back to square one

(48:19):
fundamentals wise, like he's doing he's doing this stuff like
overstriding where he's like his left foot is going way
too far and his base is all jacked up and
his passes are sailing. They're like, what, we got to
strip it down to the nubs here, Like what is
going on? They can't go forward with something like that.
It's too much of a project.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
So it is. It's it's unfortunate.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
It sucks that he really got hurt as his rookie
year because that that could have been his lumps first year. Right,
you're working the kinks out and then you're the main
guy the second year. Maybe he's blessed with better health.
Maybe the reps add up and he starts to put
it together, but he was so behind schedule, being heard
as rookie season, and it just put the Vikings in
a spot where you just can't in good faith go

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into this season with him as your QB one.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (49:06):
You're risking too much when your roster is good enough.
I don't know how to cracks point. They went nine
to eight last season. It's insane. They won nine games
with everything that was going on with their QB situation.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
That's why people believe that, you know, they're going to
be better this year, because they were, you know, they
had a good record last year and also and didn't
you know, ended up not having a really great quarterback situation.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
How about my guy, Malik willis catching strays from you Schwartz?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Yeah, okay, So I have a couple I have a
couple of beefs with with NFL media. One of them
is that you all are too positive all the time.
Enough enough of the positivity and nonsense. Do you guys
know these guys aren't gonna work? You know, I saw,
you know when Tua, when Tua got released, I saw
the old takes exposed. Just list all these NFL people
like that great deal for the Dolphins winning deal. We're

(49:57):
in the radio together. Guy, this is dumb. It's a
dumb deal. It's not workout. Think about we love, we
love the idea of outliers. Okay, I'm gonna lay some
out for you guys. Malik will Someone give you the facts.
Malik Willis is in its fifth year on its third team. Okay,
fifth year, third team, third round draft pick, started six games,

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throwed one hundred and fifty five passes in his career. Yes,
that's it. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Okay, if he
is an average quarterback this year, he's gonna throw four
hundred and fifty passes, so three times what he has
thrown in his NFL career. Yeah, this season, right, three
times in his fifth year, never never being a full
time starter. People point to guys like Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield,

(50:46):
Ryan Tannehill on second Alex Smith right, and new teams
a much better. The main difference, it's actually many made difference. One.
Those guys were all first round picks and all started
as young players. They all had a lot of experience
to know how to play football. By the time they
got to the place that worked best for them. Never
happened with Mollie Quills, never been a starter, right, never happened.

(51:10):
You know, that's it's just it's such a different life
now becoming a Star of the Year. Oh, Aaron Rodgers,
he waited three years, right, But guys, they got rid
of an MVP quarterback to play and run like they
knew he had it in him, right, Like the Tennessee
Titans were like, get out of here, man, like you're
you're not gonna play for us two and they stunk.
They need a movie close to be good. I just
don't buy this idea that he's talented. He's in the NFL.

(51:32):
Everyone's talented, Like they got a big arm. Well, everyone
has a big arm. They're all NFL quarterbacks. Like all
this it's throwing out these things, like guys that he
can run, well, okay, I mean most quarterbacks NFL can
run the ball. Like I just there's no tangible thing
where you're like, he's gonna be good. It's all hoping
and wishing, And I hope he has a great career.
I hope he makes all the money he can. But
the idea is gonna beau, He's not gonna be good

(51:54):
in Miami. It's not gonna happen. There's no inf a
history of this ever. Ever. Find me somewhat please, Oh
Dak Prescot's fourth round pick. Key plays he started as
a rookie. First game he started, rock Perty started as
a rookie. These guys have all started. I think there's
like twenty seven first round quarterbacks right now they're playing.
The other guys are Jalen Hurts, Shucked, Dacked and Purty

(52:15):
and now Malik Willis. I just I don't buy it
all man, don't buy it for one second, Bruyn. I
just it frustrates me that no one's wanted to say
the things I am. They all get on TV. I
it's gonna be great signing a talented guy. You're gonna
be good in Miami. Why will give me a reason
why no one has any reasons why they just say
the same thing I just said. It's got a big arm. Yeah,

(52:35):
he's in the NFL. He probably has physical traits that
are elite.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Well, and the thing too is he's going.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
To a roster that is a disaster right now. They're
they're stripping it down, which is what they should do.
You know, they're they're moving players for draft picks, and
they're gonna hope to have some premium picks after a
disastrous season and then they can start to draft wisely
and hopefully build it back. And that's great. I think
that's what they should do for their future. But for

(53:03):
the here and now, for Malik Willis going over there,
there's not.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
A whole lot of help around him. Man, So I
don't play it's gonna.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Be r Why why not just play queen youwers then
and either have the first pick of the draft. Like,
I don't understand when these teams don't feel like they
align the quarterback decisions with the actual rostered the rest
of the roster decisions. Like, yeah, I get milligue Walls
is not expensive for quarterbacks. Yeah, but the fact is, like,
just play Quinn yours.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Right, Yeah, you're kind of half in half out.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Three and fourteen and draft arch Manning.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah right.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
You know, Like it doesn't make sense to me why
teams do this? And no, no, man, I'm not the Dolphins.
I mean, I don't know. It just it doesn't make
sense to me.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Guys, I was looking at McCarthy at a twenty two
million dollars guarantee, uh contracted. And then I was thinking
to myself, jeezs amazed in this NFL. How much money
is just wasted? Like and then I think about the Dolphins.
Twenty two million is nothing compared about the tour you
can go on to Cleveland with, and like all of
this money, that's just hundreds of millions. There is just

(54:05):
that much money in the NFL now, oh yeah, compared
to even ten years ago when Jeff plaid, I mean.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
It's amazing, buddy. Yeah, I'll tell you exactly how much
much more money there is in the NFL. My fridge
and year twenty fourteen years the cap is one hundred
and thirty three million dollars. It's now three hundred and
two insane.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, I'm a jealous person. We've done the show now,
this is four years now. Like you guys know me,
I do turn into like a haten former player on
pergency day.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Though, I'm like, aside, for wow, that's a lot of money.
Yeah it's not.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Him, Yeah, there's like the second tier guard. I'm like
twenty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Yeah, that's yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I got again, I have money, but like I got
four million. He's got twenty million. Yeah, jeez, man, I
would do I'd spend that money a lot better than
they would.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
Yeah, just like college basketball, a lot more parlays with
that type.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
But that's U Well, that's what happened last week too.
I had I had North Dakota State for the for
my own parlay.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Yeah, screwed up that one too. Yeah, over team to over.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
I was going to hit a ten to one and
need to cover that was my last leg and uh
they they didn't cover that game. But it uh, it
just that's the part of it that like, is it's crazy.
Thats just the money has gone so much different now.
It's I mean, it's fine, it's it's it's it's just
a but this is this is this is this, This

(55:32):
is why the NFL is talking about playing on Wednesday. Yeah,
thanksgiving more money, yea, more money, right, More Netflix money,
more Amazon money, more streaming service money. And there's just
a lot of money there's money now with with partnerships
with with these sports books, like it's just as a
lot of money.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
It was sporting advertising. Yeah yeah, so but I wasn't
even thinking those Wednesday Thursday, all these different games that
they have a Saturday agether the Netflix games. I wasn't
you just wonder where this money come from. It doesn't.
Does it come from ticket prices, No, there's TV contracts
and different deals.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Like it's TV contracts. Think about it, Like the number
one thing on television is sports. You know, like if
you want to run, if you even the sports that
like don't rate us high, they're still the number one
thing on television. It's just it's just what it is.
So if you're looking to advertise, you want to, you know,
get your name out there, you have to do it
on on sports program on sports, on sports shows, and

(56:26):
on and on games. So that's why there's still a
lot of money and it will always be money in
my opinion in sports because of that reason. If you
would advertise, you have to do it on the sporting events.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
It's wild too because they always have like the top
one hundred rated shows the entire year.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
It's littered with the NFL.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
It's like eighty five or so shows are all NFL games.
It's crazy, like they have that huge of a percentage
of it, and like the advertising dollars that come from that,
it's insane. With the and the contract should be insane.
It generates that much money, they should get their piece
of the pie. So that's it shouldn't go all to ownership.

(57:04):
It should go to the players as well.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
It is. It is kind of funny how how You're right, Brian,
is a lot of the NFL. No, there's like the oscars.
It's like randomly like there's a random like one like
one like event a year where you're like, oh, that
that's weirdly got in the State of Union address. That
can be in there too. Like there's like one one
like non sport event in there because NBA Finals are
in there. Maybe you know, the Dodgers are playing, you know,

(57:26):
the Akey's and the World Series, Like there's some of
those in there. But for the most part, it is entirely,
entirely NFL. And Yeah, I'm actually gota curious to see
tonight with the WBC what that rates because you have
USA Dominican Paul throwing tonight, Like it's gonna be I
guess in the ten million range. I mean, I think

(57:47):
it's gonna be Sunday night, Selection Sundays over, like selection
shows over and yeah, and it might get it might
get a big number. Brian, I'm curious about it tonight, I.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
Know the atmosphere is going to be electric. Man in
MYAMMI facing the dr love love, like the Latin people
loving their base. It's an amazing atmosphere. So it's gonna
be a lot of fun today. It was great last
night Venezuela and Japan.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
That was great. It's fantastic. Exactly, fans are losing their minds.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I think we're gonna lose tonight because we don't seem
to be having any fun. I think that's the reason
why we're gonna lose, and then we're gonna lose is
that we can't even shake hands with our teammates that
play on different teams in before a game. Like you
can say hi to your your teammate. It's okay, you
would believe you you really want to win. You can

(58:38):
still shake your buddy's hand. But buddy, last night, you
hit that home run, like the bat went up like
fifty feet in the air, the Tatis home run, just
like like I am I am pro emotion in sports.
I am pro bat flipping. I am pro Imagine if
a Sunday at baseball game had that much emotion, how

(59:00):
many more people would watch baseball. I'm not saying every day,
I'm not taking a Tuesday day game in Colorado, you
throw your bat on a big home run. But in
these big moments, man show, So how for some fun
man social emotion. I think the Team USA vibe is
just it's it's just not good. I don't like it.
I think we're gonna lose tonight because Themakon products have

(59:21):
just way more fun playing.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
Baseball interesting, I will say real fast. When we're doing
like the top one hundred rated shows and it's littered
with the NFL, you get some college football, how discouraging
is it for the NBA Major League Baseball? I could
just imagine like Manfred someone informing him. Manfred's like, how
many do we get?

Speaker 3 (59:40):
We got one?

Speaker 6 (59:41):
We got one on this year's one one game that
was one of the top one hundred rated you know
events of this year.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
How rough is that?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Man?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
If you're Adam Silver.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Think where the NBA used to be and like where
the NFL is right now. There was I'll tell you
sorry the ramble, but there was a sports bar in
my hometown from years ago. And what was really cool
is they had these laminated tables and so they put
like Sports Illustrated covers and you know, trading cards and
all this stuff, and it was just laminated. And that

(01:00:15):
was the table that you ate your food on. And
there was one cover I'll never forget from Sports Illustrated.
This was around like ninety three or so, and it
just said, can the NFL be saved?

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Like that?

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
That's where the NFL was at that time. And look
where it is now. It's insane. It's insane where it
is right now with the ratings and the money and
it's off the charts, man, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
I've told you this before. Like the NBA, he watch
this SJA stuff? Who wants Who wants to watch that?
Who wants who?

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
You don't want to watch SGA? What's what's wrong with you?
Jeff passing wil Jim.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I don't want to watch him run into another player
and draw that. I just the think about basketball at ball,
there's many things a frustrating the thing like that, the drawing,
the foul stuff like it just infurience me. Just Just
play basketball, man, like running into do to some of
the stuff that SJA does. He's a great basketball player,
but the foul baiting, I can't It's not fun. It's

(01:01:10):
just not fun to watch. Ye, it's fundamentally not fun.
Do you like watching that? Brian?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I love watching SGA.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I get that it's not your cup of tea with
the you know, getting the whistle, But that's what you
should be doing. You should be trying to get to
the foul line. Like, the goal is not an entertaining
TV product. The goal is winning and that's the path
to winning. So I respect it. I don't have as
big of a problem as.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
You do with the Miami Heat intentionally fouling up thirty
to get BAM like more points, Like, what what are
we doing? Man? What are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Yeah, we got to circle back to SGA and BAM
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Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
This follow the money, real good man.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
We welcome in our good friend, Christian Cipolini, BETMGM Senior
Trading Manager.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Good morning to you, Christian Hope. All is well. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
If we give you the magic BETMGM one today and
you get to waive it and get one result in
one game to go a certain way, are you choosing
college basketball? You go in WBC, what do you need
the most based on either volume or like one sided
action question.

Speaker 10 (01:03:23):
That I don't like because the answer probably goes to
the WBC and it is probably a USA law, which
is not something that I personally want. So that one
makes today probably pretty tough. And more so of the
reasoning for that is, you know, we just have five
college basketball games, and you know, while they are important
and we'll be bet on, you know, I don't think

(01:03:45):
I think more volume will actually end up coming on
this WBC game, as it is a huge game that's
right there in prime time.

Speaker 7 (01:03:51):
So I think that's the one that's gonna.

Speaker 10 (01:03:53):
End up getting more handle, which is why I got
a lean there, but I don't personally want that outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
I was slowly surprised you guys had the Dominican. You know,
everyone you guys been like, had them priced so high
as dogs, I mean almost four to one, the team
that can mash like they can. I got them at
like three ninety, you know, to win the the WBC.
They're obviously one win away from today from probably winning it.
They do have to face schemes. I get that, But

(01:04:22):
do you think it was mispriced a little bit because
I was just surprised to see them such an underdog
with the lineup they have.

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
Yeah, I'd say the thing that probably is the disconnect
between the two is that on paper, this USA team,
you know, should have probably been priced where they were,
but as you kind of have watched them play, you know,
it has been a bit lackluster. It feels like a
lot of these other countries want it a lot more.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
If that makes sense.

Speaker 10 (01:04:50):
So it's kind of shown through USA plays you know,
hasn't really.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
Been up to the par of what you'd expect.

Speaker 10 (01:04:56):
And that's probably where I kind of that disconnect is
and probably reflected a bit in the price now as
this is projected to be a very close game.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
Christian Tonight selection Sunday. So I want to know what you, uh,
how does it work for now? Are you there? Are
you involved with Tonight? Do you guys get lines up
pretty quick compared to the market. Are you personally working
it like yourself? Do you get involved? Do you just
keep an eye on how does tonight work for a bet? MGM?

Speaker 10 (01:05:31):
Yeah, So this is one where I'll be much more
hands off on this one. The shams will usually cover
you guys talk with on Saturday, he'll usually cover a
lot of the college basketball, but I always like to
be involved in This is a very interesting day. A
lot of our college basketball traders are working much different shifts.
With just five college basketball games on as it compared

(01:05:52):
to a usual one hundred plus day Saturday, this.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
Is pretty easy for our traders in the morning.

Speaker 10 (01:05:58):
The difficult court part does come when all these team
names are throwing out because what we just try to
you know, we want to try to get these games
up as quick as possible, so we need to get
the games created, We need to start running the model,
start running the sims, and try to get those things
up as quickly as possible. So it's kind of a
mad scramble of watching the games get announced and trying to.

Speaker 7 (01:06:18):
Get those things up as quickly as possible.

Speaker 10 (01:06:20):
You know, there'll have to be reef prices to futures
markets of you know, certain brackets are obviously going to
be more beneficial for certain teams.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
So it is a mad scramble.

Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
But I do at least and from my perspective, and
hopefully it's the same for the other traders. As While
it is a lot going on, it's usually pretty exciting
at least makes the day go by faster.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Nice.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
How much does march madness, And I would assume it's
pretty significant, But if you had to put a percentage
on it, how much does March madness, especially the first
couple of days eat into your NBA handle? Is it
just like man, no one's betting on the NBA today
with it being Thursday, first day at the tournament, Is
it like that? Are you still get some NBA action

(01:07:02):
going on there?

Speaker 10 (01:07:04):
Yes, I mean college especially those first two days and
really just the first weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:07:08):
We'll be on the forefront. It will take a lot
more bets.

Speaker 10 (01:07:12):
And actually what it ends up doing for us is
the sharp players will continue to play NBA, of course,
whereas we lose a lot of our more casual actions.
So if I've probably looked up how we perform on
NBA during Mark fantas from it's probably pretty poorly. So
there's definitely still certain people out there. You know, if

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there's an edge out there, there's going to be some
sharps looking to bet it. And obviously the NBA is
still popular, but that that weekend just becomes a huge
college weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Of course, as we get to the start of baseball
season here and with the WBC, you know, having a
lot of action. Are you seeing an uptick in baseball
future wagers being placed?

Speaker 10 (01:07:56):
I'm not so sure if I could stay so much
on the future side, but what I can say up
this World Baseball Classic, it is the popularity is certainly improved.
We can see it through the handle metrics. We've already
more than doubled what we did.

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
The last World Baseball Classic.

Speaker 10 (01:08:11):
That's even before championship games, so you can see it
over the game over game handle. It's even it's taking
more than MLB, you know, just average the middle of
the summer MLB game would take. So there's certainly interest there,
and I'm sure that is leaking back into the MLP future.
This is more excitement around baseball, more things to watch,
people getting excited for the future.

Speaker 7 (01:08:31):
So there's a natural correlation there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Christian, just an interesting question here about you guys personally,
like what you guys do. So now after the March madness,
like you have all those traders in there for Saturdays,
do those traders of basketball Saturdays now, do those traders
do they go over to baseball or do they maybe
take a little step back and maybe go part time

(01:08:57):
or do you keep them all full time doing something?
I don't know, sweet and floors, So time boxes, What
do you got? What do you guys? What do you
guys do after? Like you know, certain people are specialists
in basketball. I would think would would they would they
go over to baseball or were they wait for football?
How does it work up at m JAM.

Speaker 10 (01:09:14):
Yeah, exactly that our NFL specialists right now, for example,
while they'll be focusing at times on the draft, we'll
be focusing on the NFL futures. But of course right
now there's not as much going on, so they'll they'll
help out in other ways. There's some NFL traders that
that will be helping out this afternoon to help with
the March madness set up. And you know, in the

(01:09:36):
first couple of months until we kind of get to
really late May, there's still kind of a lot going
on in college baseball, for example, is something that then
we'll start to pick up more. You know, we'll open
up more markets for lower tier games that we may
not have before. Now that we'll just have a few
more extra resources available, you know, things like playoff markets
will try to offer a lot more than we normally

(01:09:57):
would for NBA NHL with those kind of extra resources
that get freed up once we lose college baseball and
then several months.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Sometimes is where we say you want to go on
a vacation.

Speaker 10 (01:10:08):
Summer's a great time to do it because it's nice
and quiet with just the baseball around.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Now, you always think, you know, natural thing is to
always think, oh, sportsbooks down, they make a fortune, and
never thinking about there's so many like employees certain times
of the year. You know, you have big payrolls and stuff. Now,
trust me, you know me, Bill Krackenberger. I'm not the
first one out there with a collection bucket for sports books.
But however, there is so many moving parts and there

(01:10:37):
is a lot of things like that. You just wondered
what they do. You're right, So now summertimes the time
to take your vacation and get back in there for
preseason football in August.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Great, good job, very nice. Well, hey christ and always
appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Hope you have a good day. We'll catch you soon.

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Oh, it's exciting day.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
Today it's less and Sunday and the next time we'll
talk there'll be a lot of college Daslall already played,
so really exciting week ahead and good luck to everybody.

Speaker 6 (01:11:04):
Thank you, absolutely yeah, looking forward to next week should
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Last night.

Speaker 9 (01:11:24):
Brian is on Saturday Night, number one Duke when it's
second straight ACC tournament beating tenth rank Virginia seventy four
to seventy. Number two Arizona won the Big Twelve Tournament,
topping fifth ranked Houston seventy nine to seventy four. Number
thirteen Saint John's capturing a second straight Big East Tournament.
They defeated sixth ranked Yukon by twenty seventy two to
fifty two. California Baptist going to the NCAA Tournament for

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the first time ever. They won the whack championship game
over Utah Valley sixty three to sixty one. Hawaii won
the Big West Tournament over UC Irvine seventy one to
sixty four in the quarter final of the World Baseball Classic.
On Saturday night, Venezuela eliminated defending champion Japan eight to five. Finally,
in the NBA on Saturday night, the Lakers and Denver

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went to overtime. And you know what, I'll tell you what, guys,
instead of me telling you what happened, let's raise our
game a little bit. I'm going to read the Magic
Johnson tweet summarizing last night's Lakers overtime game against Denver.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Quote.

Speaker 9 (01:12:33):
Luca's fallaway jump shot sealed the victory for the Lakers
one twenty seven, one twenty five. Luca ended with a
thirty point, eleven rebound, thirteen assists, triple double, and got
a lot of help from Austin Reeves, who sent the
game into ot. The Lakers were down three with five

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seconds to go. Reeves got fouled, made the first free
throw and missed the second, but got his rebound and
made a crucial game time shot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Exclamation point.

Speaker 9 (01:13:05):
He ended with thirty two points. Tonight's game had playoff
level intensity. Exclamation point unquote again that the Magic Johnson
tweet summarizing last night's game back to you, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Wow, very well done by Magic that's exactly what happened.
Each tweet you read, you're like, Yep, that's that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Absolutely what the platform was for. Or do he just
like control us, Like what's the reason?

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
Yeah, it's become a brand at this point. You know,
I think that he I'm pretty sure he knows what's
going on here, right, Like maybe he's just kind of
a character in this whole game. I don't know what's
going on. But uh, that was a wild game last day. Man,
if you were on the Nuggets to win the game,
that is a brutal, freaking beat you kid, you're up
by three, you foul. Austin Reeves HiT's the first one,

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misses the second one on purpose, and he just line
drived it right at the rim. Great, great job, and
he got a lucky bounce, got the rebound, put it
back in. But the miss itself, that's harder to do
than you think it is. Drivate at the rim, that's
not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Yeah, if you miss, yes, it's a it's a it's a.

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
Basically a turn over. Yeah, you got to hit the rim,
got it? That's harder to do than you think. Like,
you never shoot a basketball like that. Ever, Yeah, no, no,
so to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I mean, how about the basketball? How about that end
of the dating game yesterday. I mean, these games have
just been so good. The good ones have been really good.
The Arizona shot a couple of nights ago, the game yesterday,
there was other game. Who's the other game with? They
ran on the court early as well. Well it was Michigan.
Michigan had big three yesterday. Like it's it's just been

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the good. Games have been good, man. The endings have
been great. It's why we love March madness.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:14:51):
I'll tell you the way these conference tournaments have gone,
so many big leads have just been lost.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
These teams just melted down there.

Speaker 6 (01:15:00):
There's just trying to get to the finish line, and
they just forget how to execute over and over again.
So maybe these in game lines are the way to go.
If you've got a team that's, you know, trailing by
ten and it's getting late, there's some value. These teams
make comebacks routinely in college shops.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I Arizona yesterday. I was at this event last night
and the cell reception was atrocious at the event, so
I was just sort of like following along as we went,
and they were up like fifteen. I was like, done, easy, Yeah,
I'm I turned. I put my phone away to be
nice and respectful, and then I like to pull my fine.
Ten minutes later, I'm like, what, they're up by three?

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What are we doing? That happened here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
All these games, right, they all ended up happening this way.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
It is wild too, because Houston went for it was
like five and a half minutes they didn't score, and
the next thing you know, it's a three point game.
You're like, okay, okay, cool, Like it's college oops for it.
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Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
All right, let's do this right, All three good?

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Drop it up player plays all right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Prop bets galore, crack you live for it? What do
you have for us today?

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
Buddy?

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Okay, let's go to the NBA. Let's go to Oklahoma City.
Thunder AJ Mitchell over his points, rebounds and assist over
nineteen and a half minus a dollars thirty Still know
Jaylen William Williams, sure, okay, See, so the Symberwols will
focus on SBA and and chat. So Mitchell is one
hundred percent healthy now and it should play twenty five

(01:17:41):
plus minutes tonight over his points, rebounds and assists.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
All right. I like a few here. The diminuteing over
three and a half run is juice pretty heavily right now,
and so I think you just wait till the game
starts and try to get a number in there live.
So a couple of things here. There's ninety five pitch
limit for the pitchers in the semi finals. Look, yeah,
that's Skis probably was gonna throw much more in than anyways,

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but just to keep that in mindy, he's not gonna
probably pitch the whole game obviously. And the bullpen has
been a little shaky for the US right in this tournament.
And so once those Dominicans get to that our bullpen,
I think they got a chance to go over three
and a half, So I would I would wait, you
might get two and a half. Make you a better
A better, a better value there. I like a cup
twenty five points plus and plus one o five today. Look,

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it's it's must win whatever world you want to use
a must win game, the championship game. Give me the
best player on the floor who has been dominant this
entire tournament to go and have a good game. So
I think he's the guy at any that leads the way.
Twenty eight thirty seven, twenty four points. Yeah, he even
cheated shoot well yesterday only thirty three percent of the field,

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so I think he bounces back today. So those are
two I like right now.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Yeah, I had that one circle too with a cup
junior Jeff, Like, over twenty three and a half, you
think he's gonna go even higher than that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Well, is there there's a plus? Mind, I just saw
one way market here, so maybe I'm not looking at
the right tab here, but I think if you can
find that that, yeah, I'd rather pay twenty three and
a half all these leap It was. I went, I'm
only a lot of one way market here. Oh here
we go.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Oh yeah, like though, yeah you could look at the
over under, Yeah you can get.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Oh yeah, we got yeah, over twenty three you have
to hit that all tab. I think it's the bottom.
So over twenty three and a half that I'll take
that that's better.

Speaker 6 (01:19:30):
Look at a short syndicate alt nation right there. You know,
you give me the alt numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
All I always forget that tabo.

Speaker 6 (01:19:38):
Yeah, but hey, listen, you could go all if you want,
you know, juice your numbers right there. But if you
want the standard line at bet MGM over twenty three
and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
The thing with a.

Speaker 6 (01:19:48):
Cub junior, it's volume. Yeah, he plays every minute and
the volume is there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
He's taken.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
He took twenty one shots yesterday, you know, so it's
the He's not gonna take just six shots. You know,
the only way that would happen is if he got injured, which,
knock on wood, does not happen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
But I like that one. I also got an under
for you.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
I'm gonna go Trey Kaufman Wren under fourteen and a
half points.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Now, what's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
The last time that Purdue played Michigan, it was at
Purdue and Kaufman Ren scored twenty seven points.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
He took twenty six shots.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
But against this front line, I just don't see lightning
striking again. I think that Michigan's defense, their front court
is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
You just listen.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
You gotta keep Kaufman Renny did most of his damage
with offensive rebounds. I don't expect him to have the
same amount of offensive rebounds in the game like this.
He had seven offensive rebounds the last time that Purdue
faced Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
That is not happening today.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
So I like Kaufman Wren, I'm gonna go under fourteen
and a half points.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
Do you not smell a rat?

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
He scored twenty seven points last time, and it's juice
to the under fourteen and a half. I just think
he's going under, So give me that on Kaufman Wren.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Deal. Yeah, lookah, I think the cover So I'm okay
with Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Has that many points and now they're fourteen and a
half to the under? You do you spell all rat?
You're right right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Yeah, No, it just doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:21:15):
It doesn't add up because you would think he scored
twenty seven last time, he's not good for fifteen today. Really,
it's like, yeah, really, it often doesn't go down as
easily as you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Think it does.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
So and Kluff that's the other big guy. Cluff was
pretty good yesterday, had a ton of rebounds and scored
a decent amount of points. So yeah, yeah, needed one
more from Brayden Smith, you missed one toward the end.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
It didn't get the cover. So crazy how that went.

Speaker 6 (01:21:44):
We'll get into more college oops coming up. Oh what
is going on? Happy Sunday too? You hope all is well.
We start this hour, the final hour of the program,
with some props for the Schwartz syndicate. Huh how about
this tweet? I got it from Preller forever, he writes

(01:22:05):
in Jeff is right about everything this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Malik Willis SGA out of bio.

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
Everything is fake, the media fawning over a guy who
threw thirty five touchdown at thirty five passes last year,
SGA manipulating refs fake competition to get BAM eighty three.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
It really sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
It's nice. I don't get told him right ever, and
especially in my house, so I'm glad that I get
told him right every now and then. Thank you for listening.
I appreciate the support. I'm right about the foulbating. We
gotta just gotta stop it. It's just it's just it's
it's not fun to watch, and you should reward, you know,
when you watch basketball and someone has a bad offensive possession.

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Brian and the offensive player with like three cents just
biales in the defender foul. You're like, what, what what?
You're just bailing out a bad offensive I just can't
in it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Maybe it's my bone personal beef of college with with
with basketball in general. I don't just don't like it.
I don't like that you offensive players get bailed out
for bad offense, but just running into someone and being
you know, called defensive foul.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
Now, I do have to get we have to get
you know, your official take on BAM out of BIO
because you just there wasn't time.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
You just dipped your big toe in those waters.

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
So before I say you're dead wrong, I will say
you're on the road of being dead wrong. But I
don't know your official position on BAM just yet.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
So what am I wrong about?

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
I mean his team was intentionally fouling up thirty to
get him more opportunities to break a scoring record, which
I mean, it's fine, It nothing wrong with it. I
don't have to like it, but it is. I mean,
that is what happened. You know that it was uh

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you know for for you know, scoring that many points,
and we compared to other players who were able to
do it you. Obviously, Kobe's game when he scored eighty
three or eighty one was kind of close to that inefficient,
uh with with that many shot attempts, you know, but
twenty of forty three hit seven three hit forty three
foul shots. He made the foul shots. I mean, you

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got to make them. But that was whatever I mean,
he got said, he got it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
He said, I don't care. You guys care, Oh yeah,
if you're mad, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
So the audio is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
So the night Kobe had, you know, Kobe had forty
six shot attempts, the night he had eighty and eighty
one points, only twenty foul shots. So BAM had twenty
three more foul shots right and than Kobe did. And
and Kobe only had what two more three more field
goal attempts. So I don't know it. No, it's fine.

Speaker 6 (01:24:57):
I guess a lot of backlash, a lot ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
I wish I had the I should have grabbed the
audio from last night.

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
John Caliperi, right, Arkansas head coach, was BAM's head coach
at Kentucky, and he just summed it up perfectly. It's
like eighty three points eighty three points in an NBA
game against NBA players. He basically like, that doesn't even
make sense. I don't even know how to wrap my
mind around that. And it's true like that, That's the
thing to me is when it comes to SGA is

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a good example of this too, either SGA or BAM's
eighty three. Like what SGA did passing Wilt one hundred
and twenty seven consecutive games scoring at least twenty points
is freaking ridiculous. And it's like, if you want to
dwell on the fine print of him drawing files, it's like, okay,

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but you're missing the big picture. Like him doing that
is NBA greatness. Like who's coming close to that? The
list of guys that have scored twenty points in consecutive games,
it really makes it stand out even more of the
dudes that are like, well down that list is some
of the greats. Here, let me try to get it

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real quick. I've got all these screenshots. Go lord, okay,
here you go. So Will did it one hundred and
twenty six consecutive games. He had another one of ninety two.
That's the second longest. The big O' Oscar Robertson seventy
nine games. Jordan and KD seventy two games consecutive games
of scoring at least twenty those are some.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
Of the greatest.

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
MJ's arguably the greatest scorer of all time, you know,
and he's doing it in seventy two games, not even close.
So that's my thing with SGA is if you want
to dwell on the foul thing is if that's the
only thing here, I don't know what we're doing at
this point. Like what he's bringing to the table is amazing,
and a lot of people just want to dwell on

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the fine print. Same thing with Bam dropping eighty three.
They're doubling him the whole fourth quarter. They're tripling him
when they're inbounding the ball. So the foul stuff that
was goofy. Both teams were doing goofy stuff. I don't
know why we're throwing eighty three out like it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:06):
It's crazy, right, I mean, you said he was.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I mean that they're barely an NBA team who's playing
against the no caliparts to the NBA players. But let's
let's be fair about what the Wizards are at the moment.
They they're they're closer to the to the Generals and
the Wizards at the moment, but they it's again, it's
just I think when people break records or get closer
to breaking records, when they show the highlights of that game,

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they're going to show a lot of the fouls that
he tried to get and the other intentional fouls I
watch highly they're just they're showing all the times his
team got him more like they it doesn't feel as organic, right,
and we when we see records being broken, we like
to feel like they're organic. That's j one is way
more organic, I think than the bad one. But it's just, look,

(01:27:58):
that's ga the foul stuff. It's the NBA problem. I
think that it's just not esthetically pleasing to watch a
game where players are trying to draw alcohols.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
That part is fair.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
They're trying to flop and they're trying to like you know,
I mean, it's not just it's not just a problem
in in the NBA. It's aesthetically not pleasing to watch that,
and you know, it makes it it makes the accomplishments
feel less because of of that, right, and they're not less.
What Sja is doing is incredible, but it's just not

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a fun and style of basketball to watch a lot
of times.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
What do you think, Crack, what's your take on this
whole thing?

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
Listen, I don't like those intentional fouls and like that
at the end just to get and I know the
team's tanking to the Wizards. I know, I don't like
the way it happened. I don't like did he passed
Kobe like that? And that that that that bothered me.
I don't mind the eighty three points. I just don't.
I just maybe what don't they say, will they put
a little asterisk by it?

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
So what they do?

Speaker 5 (01:28:57):
Just put a little asterisk by the eighty three? You know,
these compared to the compared to like guys like Kobe
and Wilton stuff. You know, it's just the way it
went down. And I think like even in the fourth quarter,
I think like twenty one, yeah, twenty one fourteen fourteen
of us twenty one points came via free throws. You know,

(01:29:21):
it's just that's just ridiculous. When the score was, I
don't know astor next to it? For me? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Are we are? We still sure that wil Chamberlain has
one hundred points? We yet to see video of this yeah,
it's yeah, everyone has the video of everything except except yeah,
I want vide a Babe Brew throw to baseball like
the nineteen twenties. Nobody will though at all. Just nothing
nothing out there. There's nothing that There's not a single video.

(01:29:49):
I read it. I looked this up. They only broadcast
the radio call for like the final quarter of that
game too, Like it was it was at a it
was at a different gym than normal.

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
They were at a different gym Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Pennsylvania, and they're just like there's no actual like video
or audio record of the entire game, which is kind
of crazy, like think about like in that era there
was enough video in radio around to record something that.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
The game would be able to be around still.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
And well there's a digital scoreboard either. You're just like
in the gym. So just trust that he got the hundred,
which is like one of my favorite sports conspiracies that
like they just are we sure, we sure scored one
hundred points in that game. So look again, SJA is fabulous, obviously,
but you know, it's just not a brand of basketball

(01:30:38):
that I like to watch.

Speaker 6 (01:30:39):
Hey, man, I get it. If that's not there's nothing
wrong with that. You know that's not your idea of entertainment.
I can't tell you you're wrong at all. I do love
what Eric Spolstra had to say after BAM's eighty three.
This channeling is inner. Connor McGregor, check this out.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
I apologize to absolutely no one.

Speaker 6 (01:31:00):
About following in the fourth quarter and trying to extend
the game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
This was Connor McGregor's famous quote.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
I'd like to take this chance to apologize absolutely nobody.

Speaker 6 (01:31:09):
What what a sound bite, right, But Spolstra did the
same thing as McGregor right there.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
Very good tweets, by the way, after that were incredible,
right there was. I saw a guy who put up
a picture that he had he said his friend had
the under for ban points in that game. It was
very funny.

Speaker 6 (01:31:24):
I saw one of my buddies was like, yeah, some
people are tweeting I had a double double, Bam had
nine rebounds, you know that one that's pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Three And then the other one was people were like
there was one about Jason Tatum that he would have
scored eighty one and then and then text Kobe like
like he would take he was eighty one and take
him out of the game. Then text Kobe, because you
remember Tatum put up that picture that he had text Kobe,
you know what two years ago before a finals game
or something right like I got you, buddy, and so

(01:31:54):
like there was there was just it was. It's been great.
The NBA Twitter has been good. College basketball twitter has
been good. Brian, I know, I've to tend you some
of this stuff, the FOEBA women's stuff is out of
control of that. They're so far behind the rest of
us when it comes to like internet discourse because the
WNBA hasn't been popular forever and now it is like

(01:32:15):
it's so toxic, man, it is. It is just it
is a disaster on that side of the internet. Like
College of Wall fans, they're all in on it, right,
like they get the tox city of it like some
other sports do. WNBA fans and oft are so far
behind the rest of us because they're just sort of
new to like being popular. Everything is so extreme when
anything happens in that sport on the reaction on the

(01:32:38):
internet is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
I'll tell you what, we've had.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Everybody's reaction except Bam out of Bios himself in some
of the comments he made really interesting because there's been
a lot of backlash, like he should have taken himself
out when he had eighty one, Like what all that
type of stuff. Here's what Bam had to say about
scoring eighty.

Speaker 11 (01:32:55):
Three seventy would like, what nine minutes left to go
in the game? You think I'm not going for it?
And that's the thing that's crazy when they talk about
the unethical part of the basketball. I'm like, if I
have seventy with nine minutes to go, who would just
be like, you know, coach, just take me out?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:33:17):
Right, anybody in my shoes with nine minutes left? Okay,
a minute?

Speaker 5 (01:33:22):
All right? Nine?

Speaker 11 (01:33:24):
Yeah, I'm going for it. You can't be mad at that.
If you are mad, I don't care because a lot
of people they're upset because if they did play, they
never had a chance to get that close to chasing greatness.
And then if you get that close to chasing greatness,
that's the point of chasing it so you can surpass it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I'm totally with them. I don't get it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
I don't get the backlash at all. It's funny we're
talking off air. Chris Purfett. We'll invite him in a second,
or technical producer, extraordinary we're talking about this where you know,
who wouldn't taking himself out of the game in the
same situation, Freaking Kobe. There's no way, well, different things,
there's no ways taking himself out of the game like

(01:34:08):
with eighty one tied with an all time no chance, man,
no way even think of it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
I think he did. Didn't take himself out of the
game when he scored he had sixty three through three quarter,
took himself out. I think it's the mass. He didn't
play the fourth quarter of that game. I don't think
he did. He's done it once or twice. Were're sort
of taking it a little bit easier. I'm trying to
find if he played the third quarter the fourth quarter
of that game. I don't think he did so because
I'm looking at the box where he didn't have any

(01:34:34):
points the fourth quarter of that game. So maybe he
didn't play in the fourth quarter. But I mean, so
you guys to take themselves out for some situations. But
I don't mind it. I don't. I really don't mind
him going for it. It's just the op. It just
doesn't look I don't know, is it is what it is?

Speaker 7 (01:34:51):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
The way this one went down of course, it just
doesn't look kloser.

Speaker 6 (01:34:54):
Yeah, but as mentioned, go ahead crack no.

Speaker 5 (01:34:57):
I mean, but but you know, and you said you
had no problem with it though, So you know, I just.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Think the goofy stuff like it goes both ways.

Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
And I don't know why everybody just seems to be
looking at it with what Miami did. It's like, look
at what when do you see in an NBA game
a guy getting triple teamed when they're just inbounding the ball.
You never see that. Washington was literally doing that. They
were doubling Bam the full length of the court. Right,

(01:35:27):
He's doubled the whole way. It's like both teams are
doing odd stuff. So I don't know why it's just
Miami and oh that's the call Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
It's like both teams are doing goofy stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:35:38):
So I look what it did for the week too.
It brought the NBA to a head talked around. Oh yeah, yeah,
it was actually good for NBA.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
No doubt.

Speaker 6 (01:35:48):
The cherry on top are a technical producer, Chris Burfetti.

Speaker 3 (01:35:51):
He's got something on this. Yeah, it's very funny.

Speaker 12 (01:35:54):
The will you guys mentioned the wild game, and I
can't help but keep thinking about it one, because we
don't really read it like it's the real uh, the
real record. Half the time we're still talking about we're
acting like Bam is now the number one, you know
in a game score and not Will. But also you
want to talk about funny stuff happening there, Like you
talk about how we barely have any record of that game.

(01:36:15):
But also like from what I've heard about that game
reading about it, like first off, nobody from the New
York Press went and it sounds like they just did
turned off the clock near the end, or they just
weren't running the clock properly, or they're likewise, there was
farce happening there to make sure Will could get here
points too. Like I feel like this is inherent to

(01:36:35):
every record out there.

Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
In this way, Wilt Steam was allowing the Knicks to score. Yeah,
just like go ahead, score.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
Yeah, go ahead to it get It's just Miami. It's Miami,
those tricky Miami heat over. Like that's the day. Man
in the history of the NBA, think about this.

Speaker 12 (01:36:50):
I just don't think there's such a thing as an
as a plus eighty point game in the NBA. Something
has to go in a weird.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Way for you.

Speaker 6 (01:36:58):
Okay, but think about this. In the history of the NBA,
all the great players, all all all the games, there
are three dudes that have cracked eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:37:08):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:09):
It's Will, it's Bam, It's Kobe, and we're just gonna
treat Bam like, Oh, that's what.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
I don't know what we're doing at this point. It
is dumb.

Speaker 6 (01:37:18):
It's just dumb at this point to just only look
at the negative. It's crazy, freaking crazy. We're in a
different universe right now, different dimension.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
That's how I see it, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Uh.

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Speaker 5 (01:37:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
The Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Compliments of ABC Mike bringing on the call, Luke of
Magic at the end hitting.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
A sho championship. Now I'm gonna fade my team so
hard in the postseason I don't. It's gonna be the
Hornets the Lakers. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Okay, sorry, I thought you converted over time.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Oh no, the Hornets have fallen off a little bit
now they're they're they're falling back. They're coming back to
with a tiny bit as I think that we sort
of thought they would. But the Lakers are just they're
not fun things to watch. They're much better without Lebron,
which is kind of crazy to say.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
Yeah, well, hey man, there's a nice win for them.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
A little fluky, you know, with the intentional miss on
the free throw. Not easy to get the ball to
bounce the right way, but they got in overtime, hit
some big shots.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Got to win. Nice win.

Speaker 6 (01:38:44):
They've been playing good basketball lately. Third in the West.
How crazy is that? The Lakers the third place in
the West.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
The plenty of defense though, yet have.

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
Night right that was the one highlight for the last
four months of Lakers basketball defensively. Right there, we've got
Bill Kragenberger, professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran,
I'm Brian no coming up next. There is an outstanding
NFL stat from last decade, and it's pretty interesting. If

(01:39:15):
you apply it to this decade what we might see,
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Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Yahoo.

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
Yeah, I don't know if they still do that. They should,
but Yahoo's Sports they put this in their newsletter, so
tip the cap to them. So with the Arizona Cardinals
officially releasing Kyler Murray, right, Kyler Murray signs with the Vikings,
so he's on his second team. With that happening, there
are just three of twenty nine first round quarterbacks drafted

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last decade that remain with the teams that selected them.
So we're talking the decade from twenty ten to twenty nineteen,
there are twenty nine first round quarterbacks. Three of those
guys are on the team that drafted them, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
I mean two of them are easy to figure out.
There's a third.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
You'd be able to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Oh yeah, it's Lamar is a third. Yeah yeah, Lamar
mahomes Allen And.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
There you go, Lamar. Yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
I've for Lamar. I was picked thirty second. I keep
thinking he was picked at the early the second round.

Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Correct, yes, And think about this too, where some of
these guys is just so long ago. Where you know
Sam Bradford, Cam Newton, you know Andrew Luck. Those guys
aren't even in the league. But there are let's see one, two, three,
four or five, six, seven, seven first overall picks, none
of them with their original team, either out of the

(01:41:05):
league or not with their original team. And that includes Kyler, Murray, Baker, Mayfield,
Jared Goff, Jameis Winston. Like, think about that first overall picks.
And so what is interesting to me is if you
think about the decade that we're in, if you look
at from twenty twenty to eventually twenty twenty nine, how
many of these first round quarterbacks will still be with

(01:41:29):
their original team in what ten years from now would
be what twenty thirty six. When we get to twenty
thirty six, how many of those first round quarterbacks are
going to remain with their teams? And I don't know
about you guys, but my knee jerk would be well
more than three.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
But it's like, I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:41:47):
Think about where the money is gonna be even three
years from now. So it's like, do you want to
extend Bryce Young?

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
Eh? You want to extend to you want to extend
like a line guy for even bigger money than it
is right now. I think you're gonna see this grow.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
But there are some quarterbacks that at least have a
legitimate shot of being with their original team ten years
from now. I would think Caleb Williams of the Bears,
Drake May of the Patriots. There are some candidates to
remain with their original teams. But kind of interesting to
think about it like that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
So we're at what we're at year six for like
Herbert and Burrow, right, yeah, year six for those guys,
I think Burrow's probably a bangal for for ten years
and longer. I think Herbert's probably a charger, I would,
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
Right, kind of wild, right, they'd have to be there
for seventeen seasons to get to twenty thirty six.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
That's pretty wild.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
You see Burrow and Herbert seventeen years with their original teams.
It's possible, But I don't know me. You're already starting
to get whispers of Burrow going somewhere. You know, the
goal I thought just for ten years, so it's like
it's it's your decade, so think of it from twenty
twenty to twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Nine, right, yea, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, and will.

Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
This be the case when twenty thirty six rolls around,
that would be the year for this current decade, right, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
I see what you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
You get it right?

Speaker 6 (01:43:15):
Okay, yeah, because we did the past one is twenty
ten to twenty nine seen, but now we're twenty twenty six,
so you gotta be there by.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
So it's more about guys that are drafted like the
last two years essentially as your.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Discussion kinda pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
So yeah, I think Caleb Williams is probably a safe
bet for that, obviously, like Pennex and McCarthy are just knows,
I think immediately right, Yeah, they're they're going to be
gone off their teams. Drake May is probably a Yes.
I don't think bo Nicks will make it ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:43:47):
I don't either.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
How about Jayden Daniels? You see him'll be in there
for no.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
No, yeah, because I think what's gonna happen is they're
going to change. They're gonna change coaches soon in Washington
and then I'll this year and then like it's just
when you change coaches, things change, right, it just does. So, Yeah,
you're right, I don't in this draft class is not
like you KNOWSA probably might stay on them, but yeah,

(01:44:12):
you're right about that. Yeah, in ten years from now,
what quarterbacks will be on their roster? Still it's a
fun test.

Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
It is fun.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
You know, guys, it seems like every year, like every offseason,
really the quarterback carousel. A lot of teams switching quarterbacks
every three four years. It's still pretty crazy numbers. Three
of twenty nine first round quarterbacks are still in the
teams that's drafted them. I got to tell you, what
do you think of this? I mean, are teams taking

(01:44:41):
more first round chances on quarterbacks that they know might
not work or is free agency just different? Now, Like,
what do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:44:50):
I think it's two things.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
Crack.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
I think that it's Yes, that's the first part of it.

Speaker 6 (01:44:54):
You're just it's like, hey, bo Nicks isn't the twelfth
best prospect, but but we need a quarterback and it's
a supply and demand thing. So yeah, teams take more
risks in the first round hoping that they hit on
a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
And then the other thing is, if you've got a.

Speaker 6 (01:45:11):
Guy that's borderline, a guy like Tua or a guy
like Bryce Young, do you really want to give him
the bag? You want to give them this huge of
an extension, Like the Dolphins are on the hook for
ninety nine dollars somebody like they paid him that to
go away. They stretched out over the next two years.
That's the biggest cap hit in NFL history. No team
wants to be in that position. So with the extension,

(01:45:35):
the second contract being so much money for a quarterback,
that's why you're seeing teams like, yeah, I don't think
we can do this, and it's just gonna be like.

Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
That more and more.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
Think about the next three years like those guys. When
their second contracts roll around like the arch Mannings and
the guys the next two years after that, the money's
gonna be astronomical. You've got to be the real deal
to get a payday like that.

Speaker 5 (01:45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
I also think with the cap going up, teams just
don't care if they carry a big cap at anymore.
And we saw this with Denver, right, Denver let Russ
go drafted Bnix hasn't been a problem at all. I
mean that's what Miami hopes, right. You know, you let
to a go and you draft someone next season and
ends up being a home run for you, you don't have
to worry about that money. I think teams are way

(01:46:21):
more inclined to say it's not working out, we're done.
I also think though the teams are not giving guys chances, right,
I mean, think about we just talked about McCarthy, Michael Pennix.
Clearly they're out on Michael Penex to bring into it,
like they just there's no used to just draft guy.
You play them, right, You just you play them at
quarterback until wheels fall off. They don't care anymore. And
I think that's the right way to do it. I
think it's the right way. Hey, this guy's not working

(01:46:42):
for a spy. See you later. Douce is like, you're
at Like, let's move on. I think with with a
the fixed salary for a young player, it's easy to
move on. And then too, the cap is so large
now and again the Broncos where the blueprint for this.
Just get rid of guys. These young, dreeneral managers, they're
way more into change, adapting, evolving. That's why there's so

(01:47:07):
many trades now, in my opinion, that's why there's so
much more league movement. That they don't They're not like
the old school GMS man. They just kept guys on
the roster and to not have a pride issue. These
young general managers do not care.

Speaker 6 (01:47:19):
Yeah, and more times than not, that's the smart thing
to do, because listen, sometimes the guy that you draft
just isn't going to work out for your franchise. If
the Jets extended Sam Darnold, it never would have worked
out ever. But he goes around and goes to this team.
That team resurfaces with the Vikings, has some success, goes

(01:47:40):
over to the Seahawks much better supporting cast. Now, all
of a sudden, He's a legitimate quarterback. That never would
have happened with the Jets, no matter how patient they were.
They just didn't have the system. They didn't have the
supporting cast around him. And I think that there is
something for a fresh start, right if you just stayed
there the whole time and the tabloids are killing you everything.

(01:48:00):
It's never gonna happen for Sam Darnold with Gang Green ever,
So you know, when you change addresses, that can help
you get on your feet.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Sometimes as an NFL these.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
Teams learn anything in the future or are we still
going in an upward trend as far as giving these
quarterbacks this kind of money. I mean, ninety nine million
here wasted Deshaan Watson whenever. I mean, you can go
on and on a different players contracts that have been
a bust or you know a bus is a little
a little too strong. Maybe not for Watson, but uh,
do they learn anything going forward to hey, maybe we'd

(01:48:32):
be a little more safe or no, just fire all
the money out there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
And I mean, you guys, do you have you need
that position on a championship, so you just we just
keep shooting for it. I think that's the mentality across
the NFL. The Watson deals an outlier, bad contract, right,
he might be their starter this year, which is easy,
the starter. I right that it's an all time bad outlier. No,
I think of you. Reason why you know it's a
bad contract is, you know a lot of times the NFL,

(01:48:56):
you know, the highest paid guy in twenty twenty five,
the next year twenty six, they just pay the next
guy more money, right, and then's go down the line. Yeah,
you know, like al peris the highest paid wide wide receiver,
He's not the best wide receiver. He's just the next
in line. The next guy get the highes paid guy
right back down the list. No one copied the Watson contract,
like in litigation over this right now. Yeah. NFL was

(01:49:19):
just like, no, we're not doing that anymore. We're not
doing that contract. They're in legit litigation over this right now.
So that tells you how bad that deal was, crack
that the rest of the sport was like, yeah, we're
not We're not doing this.

Speaker 6 (01:49:33):
I think the rookie wage scale factors in as well,
because Jeff, you're talking about you know, think about when
Sam Bradford got huge money before taking one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Snap seventy million.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
Yeah, and these teams, if you're committing that much money,
I'll tell you this, if the Vikings had that much
money committed.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
To JJ McCarthy, they play them.

Speaker 6 (01:49:52):
He's still be QB one right now, but they don't
have that much money committed to him, and so it's
easier to get off of a guy when he's making
modest money in comparison on their their rookie deal.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
I think twenty two million guaranteed for mccarthur. Brad forgot
seventy million, right right, Yeah, there's two different deals, so
you can, especially with the capping three hundred million, that
twenty two million guarantee, but was spread out over five years,
four years a deal. It's four years and it's spread
out over the four years, and so the cabin is

(01:50:23):
minimal because it's why you try to build around that
quarterback when they're cheap, because that's just the best time
to do it. And so but it's the team's gonna
keep doing the crack. They're not gonna stop doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:50:37):
Yeah, no doubt. Someone else who is not gonna stop.
That would be Isaac loewen Kron. He doesn't know the
definition of the meaning of the word stop. He's got
more for us, so he does no more. He's well
aware of more, got more for us right now?

Speaker 3 (01:50:52):
What's going on? I love?

Speaker 13 (01:50:52):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:50:53):
We got more?

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
Indeed, Brian, We're gonna save the best for last on
this one. First of all, though, in college basketball, on
Saturday Night, number one Duke what it's second straight ACC
Tournament title. They beat tenth rank Virginia seventy four seventy Meanwhile,
number two Arizona won the Big Twelve Tournament. They defeated
fifth ranks Houston seventy nine, seventy four, Number thirteen Saint
John's when it's second straight Big East Tournament they beat

(01:51:16):
sixth ranked Yukon seventy two to fifty two. California Baptist
going to its first ever NCAA tournament. They won the
WAX Championship game over Utah Valley sixty three sixty one.
Hawaii won the Big West Tournament over UC Irvine seventy
one sixty four. NBA Saturday Night Lakers over in Denver
in overtime, one twenty seven to one twenty five. Luka
Doncic the game winning jumper with point five to play

(01:51:38):
quarterfinals of the World Baseball Classic Venezuela eliminated defending champion
Japan on Saturday night, eight to five. Finally, crazy story
from college lacrosse booker Corgan, the play by play announcer
for last night's game between North Carolina and Penn State,

(01:52:01):
had to simultaneously serve as the game's replay official and
wound up having to conduct a replay review on a
disputed North Carolina goal while he was live on the air.

Speaker 13 (01:52:16):
Listen, you challenging Carolina may have gone in the crease,
and you're gonna have to bear with me. Fans, we
are the review booth also, and I'm gonna ask our
folks in the truck check. Can you back it up
so that we could see the grease? Can we see
a different angle of that to the player? Number seven?
Here's seven. Get ready to pause it. Get ready to

(01:52:37):
pause it, Get ready to pause it. I do not
see him touch inside the grease? Can you rewind it
one more time?

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
Please?

Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
We'll get number.

Speaker 7 (01:52:44):
Seven right here?

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
Pause it? How do not see him touch inside decrease?

Speaker 9 (01:52:48):
Corgan got the call one hundred percent right. North Carolina
wound up winning the game ten to eight.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Oh can we have this one?

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Day in the NFL. Oh back to you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:52:59):
Yeah, Joe budd Hey. By the way, hold on, we
are the official replay.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
Can you bag he messed up? Though?

Speaker 6 (01:53:05):
He's got to say freeze it like Vicky v Right.
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By the way, I had to mention this crack. You
would love this as a music lover especially, But did
you see Jim Ersay who has passed away, the late
owner of the Indianapolis Colts, his memorabilia collection.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
It's sold for.

Speaker 6 (01:53:42):
Over ninety three dollars his memorabilia collection. And by the way,
the the whatever, the entity that sold all this stuff,
it's called Christie's. It's the pre auction estimates. They estimated
there's no sell for about forty million. You're only off
by about fifty three plus there Christie's get Your get Your.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
Get it together over.

Speaker 5 (01:54:07):
What a collection this guy had though he had Secretariat's saddle.
That was the most expensive item. I went for one
point five million. I love I just even though I
don't really go to the racetrack anymore, I used to
go to when I was a kid, and I've been
to Delmar of course, Saratoga like twenty different years in
a row. Secretariat just I loved the whole story behind
that horse and the barn and everything. One point five

(01:54:29):
Another cool item I saw it was the original script
for Rocky that still had written a eight in a
twenty eight page notebook.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Little mead notebook, old school.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Yeah wow.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
But the most money, though in the collection, was for
the music item, one of my personal favorites. Love Pink
Floyd your big Baby Pink, Gilloydymore Yeah yeah, David Gilmore
his guitar for ridiculous fourteen Oh was it grateful that
Jerry Garcia for eleven and a half million, but Gilmour's
went for fourteen and a half million. The grateful dead

(01:55:01):
Garcia went for eleven and a half a million. Twenty
six million for two guitars. What a world we live in.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
I'll just tell you that crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
The guy that bought Grateful Dead's guitar guitar, Jerry Garcia's guitar,
he like went out and started playing it like most.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
People keep it really wow, he just started wailing on it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
Yes, yeah, it was really cool. But yeah, pretty, it's amazing.
I hope he could.

Speaker 6 (01:55:23):
Play a little bit right, crack, How embarrassing would it be?
You just drop eleven point five million?

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Like I check it out. It sounds like you're messing
up on guitar hero or something.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean but you're right though, how
can they get that? How can they get that?

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
That?

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
That that wrong? When we look at the money this
this raised, uh compared to what they thought it was
so and they made they made all the money there.
So you look at the money. The family made even
more money.

Speaker 6 (01:55:48):
Yeah you say family, And Kurt Cobain's guitar, you know,
late Nirvana front man, went for almost seven million dollars.
That's what blows my mind. Man, Like, I get these
are famous people, but imagine your picking up a guitar
and now it's worth millions of dollars. That's just wild
to me. I get that's how it works. But you know,
let's say I bought a guitar for a thousand bucks

(01:56:09):
and played it, it'd be worth like four hundred bucks,
you know what I mean? Like that just media David
Gilmore picks it up, it's worth fourteen point five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
Yeah. I I I'm not a million billia guy. I
have done much of my career that just it. It
never to me like buying something for that much just.

Speaker 3 (01:56:31):
I know it, yeah, sense to me.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
But I've gotten the point where I if you have
that much money to spend seven million dollars on a meriabilia,
it probably you just need to spend your money, I guess,
you know what I mean. Like there's like you just
like you're like, I just there, there's seven million dollars,
you know, Like at that point, Brian, for us spending
x amount of money on amrioronability that that me and

(01:56:54):
you might not care about it seems ridiculous, right right right,
But if you have that much money, spend seven million
dollars on on merabellia, like you could lose that money
tomorrow and doesn't bother you, Like you just at that
point you've so much money, it just it doesn't matter.
You just need to spend it somehow, and you spend
on stuff like that like that's just I've come to
that realization. That's what that most people are doing.

Speaker 6 (01:57:13):
By the way, only only twenty seconds crack. But if
money was no object and you could have any piece
of memorabilia sports or outside of sports, is there anything
that would be on your list?

Speaker 5 (01:57:23):
Probably something with the Babe Babe Ruth something. Yeah, I
would think I love old baby root stuff. Oh great stuff.
But uh yeah, the you know the funny guys. Real
quick before we go to break. The richest guy I
know is a billion dollar guy. He's in Charlotte and
he just doesn't know what to do with his money.
He told me Schart you know gets serious.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (01:57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:43):
There to me, I would like Cracks Fedora, That's what
I would watch.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
I hope that it's an auction one of these years.
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 6 (01:57:53):
We've got Bill Krachenberger, professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight
year NFL veteran, I'm Brian No coming up next, pick Scalore.

Speaker 3 (01:58:01):
We'll share some rapid fire picks.

Speaker 5 (01:58:02):
Crack.

Speaker 6 (01:58:03):
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(01:59:07):
Keep it locked right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
we got some pigs to make.

Speaker 3 (01:59:11):
Let's do it.

Speaker 7 (01:59:15):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 3 (01:59:17):
All right, crack, we start with you. What's something you like.

Speaker 5 (01:59:20):
We're gonna go to a college basketball total. I haven't
done too many of them this year. Let's go Dayton
VCU under one thirty seven and a half minus five
at bet MGM. I'm gonna have some unders, of course
in the in the Big Dance. I take a lot
of these teams, especially under first halfs and a lot
of these Big Dance games. So far, it's been working

(01:59:41):
on okay for me, and I did a little bit
during the conference tournaments here. I like a couple of
these games on them today. But let's let's use Dayton
VCU for our our official pick here under.

Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
All right, all right, I mentioned this earlier today. There's
a college basketball team playing today on the women's side
that with seven twenty four this season. They've won three
games in a row. They're playing today against a thirty
and three Murray State team, which scores a eighty seven
points game. I took Murray State minus fifteen and a half.

(02:00:11):
The run end at some points at the ends today
playing a big number. I get it, but again, there
were seven and twenty four in the regular season. Over
the last ten games. They've won four of the last
ten games they played their defensive efficiency rating, but it's
like three hundred and twentyth Still, this is kind of
wilder here, I've taken. I'm fading them today.

Speaker 6 (02:00:34):
All right, Jeff, we've we've basically co signed on the
theories a Cup junior over twenty three and a half crop.
I will also go with the first half total. I'm
gonna go over in this Vanderbilt Arkansas game. Arkansas doesn't
play defense. Vanderbilt just scored forty seven in the first
half against Florida.

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
I don't I think they're.

Speaker 6 (02:00:55):
Gonna score point dude, give me over seventy seven and
a half in the first half of Bandy Arkansas.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
Alight, let's get the Cracks play of the day here.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
This is the best play of the day.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
Alrighty Crack, what do you have for us?

Speaker 5 (02:01:09):
All right, we're gonna add add to our season regular
season wins. We had some unders on the Astros, under
on the Cardinals. I believe we're gonna ad. We're gonna
put the twins in there. Under. And I also think
I talked about the car on I'm sorry the White
Sox over. So the White Sox over is also in there.
So there's a bunch of them season regular season wins
gives you action all year.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
There, you go, very nice over on the White Sox.
My Cardinals, man, they've got like the fourth lowest win
total in all of baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:01:39):
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