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August 9, 2026 121 mins

Brian Noe, Geoff Schwartz, and Bill Krackomberger are here to discuss the latest WNBA drama including DiJonai Carrington's flagrant 2 foul on Sophie Cunningham and former NBA players Enes Kanter Freedom and Royce White declaring for the WNBA draft. They then debate whether Kansas City Chiefs star quarterback Patrick Mahomes should play in the preseason or not. Brian, Geoff, and Bill also discuss the betting value of NFL preseason. Plus, we have another edition of Parlay Platter, Prop It Up, and the final segment of Follow the Money with Christian Cipollini!  

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(00:31):
Here's Brian No, Jeff Schwartz and Bail Crack Cracken Burger.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Oh, what is going on? Welcome in Happy Sunday too.
You hope Paul is well, raring to go talking Paul
and beyond. Man, it's beautiful that Paul has officially began.
We got the Hall of Fame game on Thursday. Well,
you know, but at least a pinky toe into those waters,
you know, not a full breakdown of the game, but

(00:56):
got ball to discuss and beyond. Good morning, Crack, Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Good with you guys. Good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Could WNBA be normal for one day? Brian, you know,
today's the day you think? Do you think today's the
day They're going to be normal? Four games today, It'll
be normal today. I got I did look up this one.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I woke up the next day of the NFL breezes
and Football's Thursday. By the way I looked, I made
sure to know what day that is. Thursday, we get
the six games. I think can't come soon enough?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Man, Yeah, there we go six games on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I think that's what it was. Yeah, six or seven?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, okay, we're off and running over here. Well, I
don't know how you guys feel. You want to dive
right and you want to do a cannonball right into
those WNBA waters there, Jeff, how are you feeling?

Speaker 6 (01:38):
How you mean?

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I don't know what the cannonball is to take? Like,
I don't even know where to begin. Where do you
begin with this league? Like on the court or this
nonsense off the court. I always telling someone yesterday, if
I tried to explain to someone not on the internet, okay,
like my neighbor, Hey, two former NBA players want to

(01:59):
play the WNBA, and I explained the whole situation, they
would think I'm crazy. They'd be like, what do you what?
What are you talking about? That's like, wait, wait, they're
trying to play wn What why? I don't know, because
like only women play WNBA. Like it it's like the
stuff that it's a league that is, it's not the

(02:20):
fall of their own all the time. Obviously this situation
is not really the fault of them, but like, it's
a league that Brian is so online, dude. It's like
everything they do and the way they respond to things
is how you would respond if you spent your entire
day on the internet and they got to figure out
a way to get out of that. I don't know

(02:40):
how they do it, but like, it's just a league
that seems to make all decisions and all narratives based
on the Internet. If I showed someone anything that happens
to the league, like in real life, they would think
that's insane. How what happens to the WNBA? They like,
what what? Wait?

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Really?

Speaker 5 (02:58):
You know, like, yeah, that Foully as st Ano Sophie
counting him was legitimately a flagrant to end of story, right,
which what I think most people agree with the reaction
to that that wait, you got on threads and like
said that was white privilege. You'd be like, what is
it's just too It's the league is too online, dude,
it's too online. It's got to figure out a way
to get people that run the league and players understand

(03:23):
that it's not your league is not just on the Internet.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Man, Well, let's start right there.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
You know.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Let's because it's funny, like you're almost talking about two
or three different things at once, right, Like.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
It's all it's all to me, it's all wrapped up
in the idea that like there there, the decisions they
make are all what feels like to me, all about
what the Internet would say about them.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, let's start with let's keep it simple, and we'll
expand it.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
So, yesterday, Chicago sky guard Djona Carrington, she was ejected
for a flame grant two foul. She hammered Indiana Fever
guards Sophie Cunningham while driving for a layup. Carrington clabbered
her from behind in the face and neck area. This
obvious cheap shot. There was wind up impact followed through

(04:14):
like textbook flagrant two foul. So she gets ejected from
the game. After the game, like Jeff said, Carrington goes
on threads and just writes white privilege and then ats
the Indiana Fever and so like, I have three rapid
fire takeaways from this. The first one is I just
want to watch basketball, right, Like, I watch a lot

(04:36):
of WNBA, and there are a lot of times where
I'm watching these games, and I'm like, I feel like
I'm watching Fox News and CNN at the same time.
I just want to watch hoops.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
The other thing is the white privileged thing. I don't
know what she's talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Now.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I'd like to open my mind and say, what are
you getting at here, Djna?

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Is she talking about Sophie Cunningham, who's made some comments
she doesn't believe trans women should play women's sports and
she has gotten a lot of flak for that, a
lot of flak for it. So it's not as if
she just said that and everyone's like, oh, okay, cool
on with life. No, no, there's been severe backlash that

(05:17):
wouldn't apply. Is she talking about the flagrant too? Like
she got ejected because she hammered, so it's a textbook
flagrant too. I don't even know what she's talking about,
But what I do know is whatever has djon a bent,
you don't handle it like that. You don't clabber someone
from behind in the face and neck area while they're
going up for a layup. That would be like in

(05:37):
your playing days, Jeff, you're bent at a d lineman
first chance you get. You don't go right at their
knee and try to tear their acl That's just not acceptable.
Within the realm with the sport, you handle it face
to face, not a cowardly way like that. That's just
totally unacceptable.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I mean, it would be like me hitting someone in
the groin, right, like, just like you're angry, just punch
them any the groin, which has happened to me a
couple of times. But again, like this is my point, right,
So Dja Rush is right to threads to complain about
the league on the internet, like she's hoping to get
sympathy from the internet, right instead of Again, like if
I showed that video to my neighbor, I was like,

(06:14):
look at this play right here, they'd be like, yeah,
that was intentional. She should be ejected from the game,
like very simply. And you saw it happen in real time.
I was oh, I saw that. I was watching. I
was like, oh, here we go, and just I mean,
and then you know, then you see people like, well
Clarke did it to you? She didn't, She'd never done this.
We have to have new ones here. It was a
dirty plan on a crack. If you've seen the play,

(06:35):
it it was a dirty play. It happened. Even Sophie's
like it happened, she got penalized. Let's move on, which
is like sports, right, Like dirty plays happen, you handle
it in the moment. Maybe there's an extra penalty on
top of that. I think if she's suspended, it's not
for the play, it's the it's for the tweet or thread,
whatever you want to call it. It's for that. It's
not for the play, and you move on. And the

(06:56):
rush to go in the internet immediately to comple plain
about it is my point. It's like a need for
social media validation to be part of the discussion. And
I know that a big portion of us we're in
the internet a lot is you know that's but that's
a small percent of the country, right, how many people

(07:16):
watching the game yesterday? Fever and Sky are like on
the internet live tweeting the game, like we were a
small portion of the crowd, right and crack, it's just
too much on the internet. The league is too on
the internet.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
What was the responses guys with the internet? Like what
was people that? People?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
You know like anything, Well, it depends.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
What crazy and it's just like holy cow, what just
happened here?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:47):
I think most of most rational people are like, what's
happening here? Like this is a foul fligering two she
got ejected, like end of story. There are people that
doing Sophie Countyham that are like she deserved it, you know, like,
oh really, yeah, it's it's a it's it's the same
thing you would expect, right. The people that don't, like,
it's the same thing every every time Clark plays bad
or injuries plays bad, it's just like this. The people

(08:08):
that hate those athletes are gonna go and and hate them.
The people that don't are going to defend them, like
it's just it's what you expect to happen. I think
more people are saying that she was wrong for the
foul and people and they actually played uh they told
Caitlin Clark and I think I think Timpson about uh
about or Thompson should say about the post by by

(08:32):
DJ and they just like laughed at her. So like
the players I don't know are taking it like terribly seriously.
But and then also she you know, DJA wrote just
a tweet. I think it was a tweet. It said
eight twenty three, which is when they play again.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I I it's it's yeah, you know, I wonder how
much you know, yeah, I wonder how much of this
this w NBA. They actually like the drama. Maybe it
helps ratings they like that. I mean it was definitely
a flagrant too, but cheap shot. I mean, why make
it a race thing? Like I said, I think the
WNBA they actually made like this. And you know, listen,

(09:09):
I went to dinner last night at a nice restaurant
at Fountain Blue, and there was a seventy five year
old couple next to us, and we wound up starting
to talk to my buddy and I and the female.
They were from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and she loves the WNBA.
She was saying, Oh, I didn't really like it till

(09:31):
the last the last year, and I really enjoyed. She
knew so much about, you know, everything that happened here
with Carrington and cunning up. She knew about all this stuff.
And then she's like, I just didn't get into until
I seen it last year. I started watching it at
seventy four years old, and it was because of the media.
It was because of these situations. It was, you know,

(09:54):
so I thought about it. I said, wow, look at
the WNBA did they They actually got themselves a rand here.
But then again, it's because of these females that have
stepped up to the game and made it really exciting,
like Cunningham. But you know, to see these cheap shots
and stuff that's just terrible. But like I said, there

(10:15):
is a portion of people that have only seen this
stuff because of the fights and the drama going on
in WNBA, and the WNBA may welcome that.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well, there's something to what you're saying, crack right, Like
drama does sell, you know, like what is it on
the news? If it bleeds, it leads, you know, there's
something to that for sure. But we both know there's
no place in the sport of basketball to clabber someone
from behind in the face or neck area because you're
bent about whatever it is. Like, that's just unacceptable. So

(10:46):
there is a line that's not just like you can
put it in the category of drama and it's like
all good. Like the WNBA has to do something about that.
They can't allow that. That's been a constant criticism of
the WNBA is especially with Caitlin Clark. She's been targeted
numerous times and I can just feel the anti Caitlin
people rolling their eyes. Oh really yeah really, She's been

(11:10):
targeted time and time and time again, and the league
has mostly been like, yeah, I mean, you'll have that.
You know, they've taken a very passive approach toward protecting
a lot of their players, especially superstar players. So I
don't think they've done a very good job at all
at policing this stuff. To your point, Crack, there's some
drama that's acceptable within the realm of basketball that will

(11:32):
sell that the WNBA quietly will be like, this is
kind of good for ratings and good to be talked about. Yeah,
but there are some things that are totally unacceptable and
they've got to police that stuff out of the game.
They haven't.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
I think that WNBA is okay with the Sophie Cunningham drama. Like,
I think that that is bringing a lot of eyeballs
to the league, and I think some people might stay
after this is over, after this is done, I think,
and and like not the and the politics of that,
but ninety five percent of the country believes what Sophie
County and believes. Ninety eight percent of the country like

(12:05):
it's not like it's not again, this is the this
is the Internet versus real life, right, where Like in
the Internet that feels maybe fifty to fifty right, but
in real life, like nine percent of people believe what
Sophie believes. Not you know, not to argue what her
point is, but that's real life. Again. If I got
my neighborhood and I ask people, I say what Sophie said,

(12:26):
they'd be like, yeah, okay, yeah, I agree with that Internet.
It's this whole thing, right and so and so I think, secretly,
not secretly, but like that that attention is okay, right,
Like it's not you know, there was a back and
forth her and shaw Reeves talked it out and and
and whatnot. Okay, I think some of the other stuff,
like the officiating stuff, is attention that they do not

(12:47):
need and they don't want. Ken and Clarke in that
tea yesterday was one of the worst things I've ever
seen in a basketball court. And people say, well, they're
out to get hurt. No, they're just incompetent in that situation.
It's absolutely incompetent. That's what it is. They're just absolutely incompetent.
Cayman Clark is pushed into the official Okay, it was
a foul, they didn't call it whatever, and then the

(13:08):
official teeter up for hitting her essentially after she got
pushed into her. It was such a bad call it
got rescinded two hours later, two hours on a Saturday,
Like they had to call people at home, Hey, did
you see the play? Well, can we rescind to Like,
it's not like everyone's to the office on a Wednesday.
It's a Saturday. And they were recented it two hours later,

(13:29):
and like that type of stuff is really the stuff
they have to fix in the league where the officiating
is just atrocious. Later in the game, the Natasha Cloud
got got a technical foul. I don't even know for what,
Like they showed the place. She just was like up
on the bench yelling and the official from like far
across the court teeter up. What about official near Natasha Cloud?

(13:52):
Like it's just it's bad if that part of it,
I think they don't like I would say, just me
speaking for it, I would not want that drama, right,
the Sophie Anam stuff, Yeah whatever, I mean, it's a
talking point for now and maybe goes away, maybe doesn't,
And that will draw eyeballs. You're gonna get more fans
of the sport because of Sophie Cunningham, at least for now,

(14:13):
it might not last, and more eyeballs, more ticket sales.
It's not the worst thing for a league in big
picture wise.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's funny because you can tell the officials are they
hear all this stuff. The WNBA hears this stuff like
you need to protect your superstars. The superstars themselves are
saying that, right, Like, so they know that on one hand,
and I think that's why they're trying to do it,
and they're doing a hideous job of it, you know
what I mean. It'd almost be like, Okay, let's take

(14:42):
the Caitlin Clark play. She was driving toward the basket.
She gets bumped. It's clearly a file, it's not called
and her momentum carries her into an official and she
just kind of like bounces off the officials, starts to
head toward the other end of the court, and the
official teaser up and Caitlin's reaction immediately is like for
what for what? I didn't say anything, I didn't do anything.

(15:03):
That's like, well, you bumped me. It's like, well that
because I got pushed into you, and so that type
of stuff That's what I mean is I think the
league hears these things, they want to crack down, and
they're cracking down on the worst things possible. It would
be like if in your neighborhood speeding was a problem
and instead of pulling over like speeders, the cops pulled

(15:24):
over like like they gave a ticket to jaywalkers, and
they're like that should work right, and it's like, no,
that doesn't help anything as far as the speeding problem goes.
So that's kind of what's happening in the WNBA, the
over the top physicality. They haven't done a great job
of that, and instead they're policing all these other little
random things that don't need to be policed. They're just
doing a hideous job. The officiating could not be worse

(15:47):
in the WNBA. Man, there's no comparison toward the NBA,
toward another sport. There's nothing as far as officiating that's
close to as bad as it is in the WNBA.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
It really is. And again people will say, well, they're
out to get a certain play. They're not. They're just
bad that. They're just bad at their job. It's it's
like that simple. And look, there are officials that seem
to you know, the you know, maybe call some stuff
on certain players and teams, but I don't think that's
it's actually like in reality, I don't believe officials are
targeting Gamelin Clark or the Fever. They're just there's bad.

(16:20):
They're bad everything. Like look at the watch the games.
I don't watch every game, but I watched the fun
teams play and they're just people all the time. Do
you watch WNBA, Yeah, the fun teams like the Fever
are fun because they score a ton of points of
playing our defense. The Links are fun because they have
great basketball players. Right, the aces are sometimes fun. It depends,

(16:41):
but like that's what kind of like, I didn't watch
Portland Seattle last night. I'm not spending my watching that
team play. I just watched the Fun basketball. I don't
like what's wrong with that. So it's just bad all
top to bottom. And I don't know if the commissioner
in the league is they were definitely not ready for
all the attention they got, right, they just weren't. They

(17:02):
weren't ready for it, and some of the attention they
didn't think they would get, and that's part of it, right,
They're just not they're just not prepared for the moment,
and that's why they need new leadership. They need someone
who could who understands the moment, who understands how to
you know, navigate the league during this time, how to
look and you have to ignore like the whole Enus

(17:23):
cancer thing, like that's just it's just it's nonsense to
ignore it, don't answer it, don't don't give it any
attention whatsoever for.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
The people that might not know what you're talking about.
Jeff so Ennis Cancer Freedom and Royce White, former NBA players,
they declared themselves eligible for the w NBA draft because
now they're saying they identify as women. It's just they
look at me, give me some attention. Let's let's you know,
let's make a mockery of what's going on here that

(17:49):
that's all it really is, is uh. The w NBA
hasn't come out and just said the w NBA is
for for females that were born female. They have not
come out and said that they've done this with the
to the the memo that was sent out on Friday
afternoon by WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert, It's like, what what
is this? They haven't. She didn't state anything clearly. It's

(18:13):
like this, uh, this topic will be discussed further by
the task force and team presidents and general managers at
a previously scheduled meeting next week. So it's like, okay,
so you send a memo to say we're going to
discuss this more so thanks, Like what what kind of
memo is that? So they haven't addressed this whole issue

(18:33):
at all, and we're in this weird waiting time. It's
just they've handled it so badly. The leadership we talked
about w NBA officiating couldn't be worse. The leadership of
the w n B A couldn't be worse. But hey, listen, man,
enough of Fox News and CNN for a second. On
a lighter note, crack, how was dinner? What did you
have last night? Was a good Fountain Boy? That was

(18:54):
a Fountain Little mother Wolf?

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Just wow. They have Miami Slice in the same place
in Fountain Blue also that's up in the food court.
But no, this was what mother Wolf is from a
chef from Beverly Hills that has a restaurant there and
he has a couple of locations around the country now
and it's one of the top locate. It's one of
the top restaurants in my opinion in Lalls Vegas. I

(19:17):
love Carboning Area for Italian I love Mother Wolf, Fountain Blue.
Now yeah, I also like Mom and Pop Regular, you
know Italian American Club too. I mean so I have
a wide array of different type of restaurants here, but
just in general, the Fountain Blue is might just be
the most underrated casino hotel in Las Vegas. Have either

(19:40):
of you guys been inside there.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
It's gorgeous. They had the whole Canelo build up the
last fight he had at Fountain Blue. They had all
these events all week long. It was awesome. It's a
beautiful casino. It's just like there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Around him, absolutely beautiful. I'll tell you walked.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
I walked.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I did a lot of walking yesterday inside Fountain Blue.
And the place is just gorgeous. I'll put that. I
usually put the Wind as number one. I'll put Fountain
Blow a real close second. But it's just so beautiful.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
It was originally designed from the like the Fountain Blue
of Miami, same owner, and they thought people were just gonna,
you know, show up there and like pay for everything
and they probably did it the wrong way. They forgot
this is Vegas. People just don't come in and droves
and pay for things. But on the weekends they may.
There was a lot of people in that hotel this
past few weekends. I've been there and that there's been

(20:33):
a lot of people in there on the weekends. They
put a video up on Twitter yesterday just of the
food court, even yesterday's breakfast. I went, I went there.
I had some friends in town that stayed there. And
even the line at the breakfast was like thirty forty
people with the two hundred people in the restaurant. And
by the way, all class marble and beautiful gold and

(20:55):
chandeliers and art. And of course they have a casino too,
is not as popular. And like Brian said, down down
at that side of the strip, there's nothing really over there.
What's just like an island street. Yeah, across the street
they have circus circus. I mean, you know, you might
as well. You might as well. Uh, you know, like

(21:15):
you can't go in there. You have you can't go
in circus circus. You just like a resorts World crack
and Resorts World has the same thing. They are on
an island as you said, you're right, you have.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
To intentionally go there. That's part of Vegas is whatever
you start at New York, New York, and it's like
we kind of ended up at MGM. We ended up
at MGM Grand or Park MGM. There's all kinds of
stuff just in a clump right there. You have to
intentionally go to Sountain Blue or Resis World.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
There's nothing like over like Olaggio, Caesars, that famous four
corners beautiful. You can walk across different things, and Park
MGM there's a brand new in and out burger. It's
like the world's largest across the street from there. Then
you have, of course you know MGM, and it's just
a lot of a lot of cool things. So we'll
talk more Vegas when we get back here from.

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home runs, two stolen bases, four hits, four runs scored,
only the second player in the last century to have
a game like that in the majors, the other, of
course Shoe Otani, who did it in twenty twenty four.
And the White Sox defeated Cleveland six to three to

(24:54):
increase their lead in the Al Central by three. Finally,
in Brazilian soccer yesterday, in Kortiba's two to one victory
over Choppa Soense, Coratiba center back Jos c scored a
goal and celebrated by leaping over the advertising dasher boards

(25:20):
behind the goal. There was only one slight problem. On
the other side of the advertising dasher boards was an
open trapdoor with a steep flight of stairs leading down
to a tunnel. Joss essentially disappeared down the rabbit hole
to the horror of the crowd, and wound up having

(25:43):
to leave the game. After injuring his ankle. It's all
the more surprising because he was a player for the
home team it was his home stadium. Even more surprising,
another player, again from the home team, got injured in
the exact same way celebrating a goal twelve years ago.

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He happened to be the color analyst on the Brazilian
TV broadcast for last night's match. The other surprising thing,
you had the same horrified security guard guarding the area
around the trapdoor tunnel twelve years ago and last night
and ultimately literally leading insult to injury goal wound up

(26:28):
being disallowed by var for offside.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
I fore, you, guys, unbelievable. It is foxb Videos Countdown
presented by bet MGM. It does remind me of the
World Cup. We had something not as significant because of
the trap door and all that, but England scored. England
beat Mexico, right, it was a great game in Mexico City.
And after the game they're about to see wonderwall, like

(26:52):
that's what England does. And one of the players got hurt.
He was jumping over a scoreboard or I don't know, somehow,
and I think he broke his wrist and Jude Bellingham,
who was one of the stars of England. After the game,
he was like, he's in a bit of bother, which
I loved. He broke his wrist. It's like, is in
a bit of bother. It sounds like, you know, he
has a little paper cut on his right index finger.

(27:13):
I think he broke his wrist on that whole thing.
But yeah, crazy times now, Ilo did start off with
the Laramie Tunzel news. That's where we want to go next,
O Lineman news. Right up your alley here, Jeff Commander's
left tackle, Laramie Tunzell. He tore his triceps in practice yesterday.
This was just during one on one pass drills, so
it might require surgery. Expected to miss a significant portion

(27:37):
of the season. It's a five time pro bowler. This
is a big, big loss for the Washington Commanders. Of course,
the quarterback Jaden Daniels coming back from injury last season,
only played seven games last year, and so you need
to keep him up right. That's that's Jade and Daniels
security blanket right there. Losing Laramie Tunzell is a big,
big loss for the Commanders. There's a team who was

(27:58):
in the NFC title game, two seasons go definitely took
a huge step back last season trying to get back
on stable ground. And you lose Lermie Tunsel a couple
of days into training camp. It's a big loss for them.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
So it's a huge loss for them. And the video
doesn't seem great. I mean not that it's great anytime
you tear a tricep, but very clearly you know it tore,
and it depends where where it tore. You know how
they can fix it. You know, surgery is out for
the season, I believe. So you know, for a team
that I think is poise for bounce back this year,
they've improved their defense a lot, but number one was

(28:32):
make sure Dany Jeneralds is comfortable right And now they
lose an elite left tackle. Now they have Connor Lee
who they can move over there and then put one
on the right tackle most likely. But it's just, you
know the video, you just don't want to hurt yourself
in a one on one like pass rush. You know,
like this is just never a good time to get hurt.
But you know, if you at least do it when
you're doing something, it feels like it's a little bit

(28:54):
more worth it than getting hurt in practice. But yeah, uh,
injuries this time of year are ye bad luck. There's
no other way to put it. Brian, there's bad luck,
and you're going to see them throughout training camp. You
see in the regular season obviously, but right now, to
have injuries, it does just feel like bad luck.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, these training camp injuries happened. You hate to see it,
but it's part of the game. Losing him, like Brian's
had a huge blow for Washington, their quarterback. This is
a five time Pro Bowl. We're talking about a good
mentor for the younger guys. Last year he became the
first offensive lineman to receive a contract that averaged thirty
million per season, So they're definitely going to miss him.

(29:37):
I was already against Washington as far as season wins.
I've given it out here in this space before, and
so I kind of thought about it though. You know,
I'm on underseason wins for Washington, underseason wins for Philadelphia,
and you know, Warren Sharp yesterday gives me, he goes, hey, crack,

(29:57):
I really like underseason wins on the Giant. I'm like, well,
I'm really really rooting for it now. I didn't bet it,
but I'm really rooting for Dallas in that division this year. Yeah,
Warren sent me a whole thing on.

Speaker 7 (30:12):
He he.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Likes under Washington season win. I'm sorry under Giant season
wins for the year. And I was thinking to myself,
you know, it's so I just you can't probably win
all three of them because there's so much in the
division you hope to go too and one. So I
definitely thought about, you know, betting the under there situationally,

(30:35):
but I did not yet. You know, I'm seeing under
seven and a half, minus fifteen, under twenty. There might
be some better spots out there, but I just it's
so hard to win to you make bets to win,
and it's so hard to go three and oh you're
betting three different teams in the same division, you know, under.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
The points to win. Not to just like talk about
how you got good value on him.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
It's still you hear what he's doing right there, closing
line value.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
Yeah, Well, I'm just just I mean, on the internet,
it seems like people just like they just are happy
to be near the right number on.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
That losing break.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
I have one. I get great value all the time
on my CLV. I'd rather win. I'd rather have a
bat CLV and win. I know over time it should
help me out Crack. I know he's a luxury's gonna
be upset with. Like by the way, Brian, I saw
Crack very very briefly this week. I was in Vegas
for and Buddy I. Crack had like seven security guards
like he was like they were pushing. They're pushing people

(31:34):
with like please get away, like this is he's he's
busy right now. It was impressive.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I was in my wheelhouse at Circa and then then
I had bet Bash in town. So you have to
understand you have all the bet people that are they
you know, they bet and they want to bet for
a living. They try to bet and they so you
get pros and amateurs like Uh, I didn't really need
any bodyguards with Jeff around, but I had Jeff and
Chris pH Leek. On my podcast, I interviewed the owner

(31:58):
of UH, Derek Stevens, for about a half hour. He
was real, transparently, really fantastic. So UH but it was
nice and and and I tried to grab a meal
with Jeff. But to be real honest with you, you're
talking about me having body guards he was too busy
for me. He's very bougie with with his with his crew. Yes,
when when like someone like Felika's around, you might as

(32:19):
well just put a leash on Jeff with Chris, they
won't hang around a streak guy like me that they'll
be over in this fantasy, I'm.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Gonna give a free shout out to to Uh. I
went to this place Naked City Wings and pizza.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh yeah, from Buffalo, that guy is.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
It was incredible. Wow the Buffalo. The wings in Buffalo
are on like anything you've writ it's It was incredible.
So I don't think sitting in a smoke field bar
is busy. But if that's what you consider that, I mean,
like look like legitimately people were smoking there like it
was like that.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
I can't go to a place like that.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
And I like the guy that owns the place. I
do very nice, but I like them. I've been there
like once or twice. I can't sit around in this.
And you imagine guys, you guys being a little bit
younger than me, But there was places ask your parents.
There was places where they used to go to eat,
and it was it was a smoke restaurant, was not

(33:20):
there was that note there was no restaurants that had
no smoking. That only happened the last twenty years.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Now, Bra, there's a bar right across from Notre Dame.
I didn't go to a Notre Dame, but that's where
I grew up. It's called the Linebacker. You walk in
it is literally seventy nine ashtrays. You just like take
them and smell it. You come in like you just
smell like smoke from head to toe. So we spent
hours in there, you know, like I've never been a smoker. Yeah,

(33:48):
and it's just wild to look at now, like what
were we doing? What were you thinking back then? This
is what was acceptable?

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get calls from avandas and Advantage
a couple of couple of advantage teams that play video
poker progressives. So a video poker progressive means if you're
playing let's say a dollar game, a dollar game, it
starts at four thousand dollars, but it's a progressive, it
goes up. I'll get calls, hey man, this bar over
here on Rainbow or this bar you know up up

(34:17):
in Henderson or someone. Hey, it's up to ten thousand dollars. Man,
it's really a great progressive. No one's hit it for
a month, and I'll go once in a while, but
I probably won't go anymore because every time I go
it's so smoky. It's not worth to go in there
and try to win that thing mathematically and then dealing

(34:37):
with the smoke. Mathematically it's worth it, but dealing with
the smoke, it's too bad. I can't. I just can't
do it. I don't know how everyone smoked. It was
fashionable back then, fifty sixty, you know, nineteen fifties and sixties.
You turn on you we see the old Johnny Carson
as they're all smoking. I mean yeah, and I just
seen Rodney Dangerfield smoking on Johnny Carson.

Speaker 9 (34:56):
I mean everyone smoked back then. It was Frank Sinatra, Martin.
They were fashionable and casino. You could see with the
little with a long little leave there with cigarette.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
I could see Crack doing that back the cigarette.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, this with a cigarette holder.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
By the way, with the buffalo like legitimately buffalo wings,
do you have to pick ranch or blue cheese? I
swear to you do, because I'm like, neither, I don't
want to like.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
What did you like over there, Jeff? What were the
wings you like? So we had we had.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
Just the we had medium cajun butter hot, and I've
had I'll tell you. I went to Buffalo. Once I had.
I went to one of the restaurants there, the famous
wing places. I waited an hour and a half.

Speaker 7 (35:47):
It was.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
It was unbelievable. You know, they're naked wings right. The
way they fry them is like it's absolutely perfect, and
the perfect amount of sauce, not over sauced or under sauce,
and there's a like you bite into there's like like
chrisp on the skin the inside. So it's I don't
know how they do it. But I was talking the owner,
I mean, Buffalo's coming to Vegas this year, and he
said that they already have like a giant tailgate set

(36:10):
up and a bunch of we will commit in, which
is awesome, so you know, maybe I'll make it back way.
The wings were great, so I I couldn't eat a
bougie meal on the on the ship at heat crack,
but in said, I went to a smokefield bar with
a bunch of d jens to have some food. Crack
was invited, by the way, he wasn't invited. He said,

(36:30):
I can't, I can't be seen with you in Yeah,
all right.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
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Speaker 3 (37:43):
Let's gore right into the preseason. So happy to say this,
New York Jets plus one over at BETMGM are really
good line. Jets plus one is going to be my
portion of the platter.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Okay, all right, all right, you just doesn't have totals
over here, eighteen totals, so we'll skip the aces under
team totals. Third game in the last four days, and
they've played like high levene fever links now there on
the road at York, who's rested, So I like their

(38:13):
team total under the day, So I'll go with the
Mystics on the money right here minus one thirty five.
They've played very well recently. There, I already hit their
team total over for the year with seventeen and a half.
It's eighteen now. They won the other night. They were
only eight in a row. Now the March weeks aren't
very good, just like kind of in Washington's playing much better.
They've sort of found they with them now. The only
thing is Brian the Mystics can go on one of

(38:36):
those scoring droughts. Kind of worries me sometimes, but I
like them to win today three thirty three o'clock. Getting
this late one thirty five.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
It's funny because at the break, I wanted to give
out Mystics, you know, the season win total over. They
had to go nine and nine down the stretch. They
hit the over and I just chickened out.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
You know, Well, they have those sid they haven't lost
at all. They've won every game since the breaks, so
they're playing well. Okay, I'm gonna go to baseball here
so we get all the sports. It's beautiful here. I'm
gonna take the blue Jays Phillies under here. I like
under eight and a half again, going back to the
well again. The blue Jays offensively challenged. Only the Mariners

(39:20):
have scored fewer runs this season team wise than the
Blue Jays have, and Shane Bieber and hazus Lozardo some
pretty good outings recently, so I don't think it's gonna
be a high scoring game. I'm gonna take under eight
and a half in that one. And let me try
to parlay all these together to get you an exact
payout here. I'm visiting in Mexico City right now, and

(39:42):
I'll tell you what. I have to turn my Wi
Fi off trick bet MGM to see the odds, and
it is a whole thing, man. But I'll try to
get you a payout here in just a second. As
Jeff has gone with the mystics' see money line. So
we've got well, we're configuring it right now.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
It's the Mystics today.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
It's going to be better than how it doesn't. It's
still configuring.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
You have to hold on to be good. It's gonna
be good because we got all we we got all
good numbers. Ye know, it's good. Probably I guess five
to one. I'm put on five to one, by.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
The way, and you know what day that that Jets
game is? Is this the weekend or on Friday? Okay,
we got it plus five twenty one?

Speaker 3 (40:23):
One?

Speaker 5 (40:23):
How do we go?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah? Pretty good?

Speaker 7 (40:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Right? What do you think?

Speaker 4 (40:27):
How many cross sport car lays do you have in
your arsenal over there?

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Track? Absolutely zero? This is this is one of them,
for sure. The good thing is you could probably sneak
sneak it to some of the sports books there. I
have been over the border there playing and a couple
of the sports books that are real slow moving sports books.
So just be careful. We'll go with the safety and
and uh but yeah, Mexico has some has some some

(40:54):
really good wee. There's a tax they add to the bets,
but that's got over there.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
What do you have?

Speaker 3 (41:01):
They have a shakedown Texas. It's literally that's what it is.
But but however, you can make up for that in
the slow moving lines.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
That's great, man, even though the Mexican betting market, that's fantastic,
beautiful stuff. All right, coming up next, does this matter
a little, a lot or not at all. We'll compare notes.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Coming on up.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Oh what is going on? Welcome in, Happy Sunday to you.
It's funny. I I always take a screenshot of our
parlay platter. Yeah and crack, you had Jets plus one.
It literally just a second ago said closed. So I
don't know if everybody's listening is hammering the Jets plus
one or what, but just looking down and seeing closed,
it just made me laugh. So oh wow, crack them

(41:47):
on the markets over here.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, that's a good line though. Yeah, it's actually good one.
Wines pick them on a lot of places. Yeah, and
the one means a lot in the pre seasons.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Jets hosting Tampa coming up here this week. Okay, let's
keep it with ball, shall we. So Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes,
he tore his ACL and his LCL last December, So
with that in mind, here's what his head coach Andy
Reid said Friday about whether he's planning to play Mahomes
in the preseason opener against the Rams that would be

(42:19):
this coming Saturday. Here's what Andy Reid had to say.

Speaker 10 (42:21):
Yeah, listen, I mean there's a pretty good chance, but
I don't play him, and percentages are leading that way,
and I don't know if I'm playing the second or
third game. I mean, I don't know that, so, but
percentages probably lean against doing that and letting the other guys.
We've got new people in those other positions and behind
him that need some work, and so the more reps

(42:43):
they get, the better.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Okay, So Mahomes, for context, he's never missed the entire
preseason in his nine year NFL career, Right, he always
gets reps. We've seen this many times, Jeff. Sometimes he'll
get a whole half. He gets a lot more preseason
action than most quarterbacks do in this day and age.
So with that in mind, if he doesn't play in

(43:05):
the opener or at all, Andy Reid threw it out
there with I might not play him at all after
this ACL and LCL tear. Do you think that matters
a little, a lot or not at all if Mahomes
doesn't see any action in the preseason, not at all.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
He's practiced every practice and it looks like it's going well.
I mean, look, the Chiefs are one of the few
teams that have their practice open to the fans. First
of all, fans record the entire practices on the internet.
You go look at it. There's all every single plays
on the internet. You can see every pass, but homemakes
every block, every run. There was a big fight yesterday.

(43:42):
There are two fights yesterday they had in Kansas City.
You can see all of it. And he looks fine,
looks to be moving well, looks to be playing well.
I think he will play in part of the preseason.
I don't know which game it will be, probably Game two.
I think he'll get some action, Brian, I think that
just Andy Reid's style. He plays the starter now, he
also typically plays the starter with the backup quarterback as well.
He takes Mahomes out at Kelsey out and puts Justin

(44:04):
Fields in in this instance lets him get a series
or two with the ones, and so I do expect
him to play. It doesn't affect at all how I
feel about the Chiefs starting this season, and so I'm
I think he looks fine, cracked. I think Mahomes looks
looks healthy, and it looks like they're running some new
stuff offensively, which is nice to see. They're running some

(44:24):
under center stuff, which is good to see. Camth Walker's
obviously getting a big workload so far in training camp.
So I'll change my opinion on them at all.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
You know, my first My first thing here is, you
guys remember a couple of years ago, I think it
was two preseasons ago. There was a lot of all
drama's not the right word, but there was a lot
of talk about you see what happened you guys didn't
he didn't play that you're starting quarterback at well at
least one time. You see what they did in the
first couple of games, are you're starting running back or
wide receiver. There was a lot of talk about, hey,

(44:53):
you got to give him one set. However, we're talking
about Mahomes here. I wouldn't play Mahomes in preseas even
if I were the Chiefs. I agree with Jeff. I
don't think he needs the reps. It's not like this
is a player that's on a new team needing to,
you know, to learn anything new. I just wouldn't take
any risk of getting him hurt. Maybe it would matter
for the first game of the season. I guess he

(45:16):
could be a little rusty and is maybe a first
couple of series maybe, but everyone is a little rusty
in Week one possibly, So I don't think it's a
big deal not to play him in preseason, especially someone
of his caliber.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
I'm going to go I'm going to go a little
bit different than you guys. I don't think this matters
a lot. I think it does matter a little bit
if Mahomes didn't see the field in the entire preseason,
because this is not what the Chiefs have done ever
while Mahomes has been there. So to me, it just
shows a little bit of a lack of comfort right
from Andy Reid in terms of playing Mahomes and getting

(45:52):
him out there and getting him a little bit of
preseason reps. Like, again, it's not a big deal. I'm
not saying, oh gosh, the heavens are falling. It just
showed that there's a little reluctancy right of like why
chance it. He's just off this major knee injury where
he tore two knee ligaments. Like what's the point the
risk reward type thing. I get it, but it does

(46:14):
show there's a lack of complete comfort because Andy Reid
hasn't thought twice about getting Mahomes out there numerous times
in preseason action, and now it's not gonna be at all.
I think that matters a little bit if he's not
to see any action whatsoever. And Jeff, you might be right,
it might get out there for the second preseason game,
and all this is al Michaels would say, is moot.

(46:34):
I love when al Michaels does that. Right, if he
gets out there, this whole discussion goes away. But if
he doesn't get out there for like one rep, like
one pass, it it's so different than what they've always
done with Mahomes.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
That's why I think he's gonna play something. I think
he'll play something. It will depend too on like the health.
So right now, the right guard is is out I
think for I don't know how long he did. He
mispracticed the last couple of days, and so they're figuring
out their offensive lie Like, I don't think he goes
in there if the offensive line is not playing right.
That's one thing to note when it comes to the
preseason is that a lot of time, starting quarterbacks only

(47:07):
play if their offensive line is in the game with them.
As well, you'll crack you mentioned it's the Bengals. The
Bengals started slow every year, and now they've started playing
their starters a little bit in the preseason because they've realized,
like we gotta we gotta get them a little bit
up and running, and so they're they're one of the
teams that will play their starters more right. I look,
the Panthers didn't play the other night, right as we know,

(47:29):
Like they didn't play their rookie right tackle at all.
I don't those moves. I don't get Bryce Young whatever
you know, but like your rookie right tackle, he needs reps.
Man like I play him. So I'm always fascinated to
see these decisions. Obviously, you know the Rams never play
the starters. Works out for them. Fine, the Chiefs play
the stars all the time in the preseason, works out
for them. So there's two different ways to do things, obviously.

(47:52):
But I do think Mahomes will see the field of preseason,
probably game two in the preseason, maybe game three, but
he'll see something. He'll see a driver too.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Okay, So you so you think he'll be out there
that that's I thought you were going the opposite direction.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I thought they were saying no, no, no, like does
what he does.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
Like, that's one thing about Andy, Like he just he
has his schedule. They've had six straight days and pads.
Anyone else doing sixt days and pads?

Speaker 1 (48:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Right, right?

Speaker 7 (48:22):
Right?

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Actually, I think I take it back. I think he
had a ten. Ten. He had one day in shells
or no pads in between those six, but he were
six days in a row, five pads, Like, that's just
what Andy Reid does. They were tackling the other day
and practice like they have periods where they tackle in practice.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I don't for meal, you know, we're going two days
over here and all that.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
And he read has heart got heart practices. Man, they
had the long drive where they go twenty plays in
a row. It's a tough practice for the new rules
not to be the old guy. Like I went to
training camp practice on Monday for the Panthers and it's like,
we are we hitting today?

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Ye? Wow? Really?

Speaker 4 (48:57):
No, kid, just very.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
They weren't pads. It's some hitting. But it was definitely
changed a lot over the years.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
They talk about that all the time. Jeff, I'm glad
you brought it up to twenty play drive. The players
told chief to this day where it's like, oh, it's
so hard, man, it's so difficult. You're just drained and
you're going on this obnoxiously long drive. He still does that.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Yeah, it still does long drive. So what they do
is they take one period in the middle of the
camp and they have a twenty play drive for both
one season threes, and you play twenty plays in a row,
and you know, obviously defensively, rotate a little bit upfront
and those drives. They try to keep those guys as
much as possible, but get twenty plays in a row
and it builds character. I'll tell you that man, it
is who it is rough and you know we in

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twenty thirteen when I was in Kansas City, you know,
we had a hard training camp. This is back before
and there were like limits on out you only spend
eleven hours in the facility. Now during training camp this
is obviously a much different time. No double days, but
we had three hour practice. They were long with coach Read.
We went to Jacksonville in week one, one pm game
on Sunday in Jacksonville, and we were in much better

(50:03):
shape than Jacksonville and we won like twenty one to two.
Like we were just in better shape coming to a
training camp. Yeah, any we have any reads first first
time as a chiefs coach. I think he calls a
famous playing y leak. Guys who I opened? Alex Smith
overthrows him by a second. We go three and out
punk its blocked to nothing and we won twenty one

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to two. Wild score. I think it was a it was.
The final score was twenty one to two. And that
was his first game as a as a chief, as
a chief head coach, and uh then you know history,
twenty eight to two. I'm sorry, shorts a touchdown, twenty
eight to two, it's a weird.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Thing going to Jacksonville. Remember it was recently when the
Chiefs it was like a nine to six game or
something crazy, do you remember?

Speaker 5 (50:53):
And then then they went last year and Devin Lloyd
had to pick six. Remember that.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Last Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
I saw Evan Lloyd at the Panthers training camp. Nice,
nice guy as well.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
Lawrence fell down and then scored the winning touchdown. That
was a wild game, man, that was a really good game.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Crazy, you get it.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
You know, it's funny going to camp. Like, you know,
I don't really change my opinion on the Panthers watching
them practice, but you get to talk to the players
and some of the personnel, and you just like you
buy whatever team sells. I think I know those guys
well just before they were Panthers on the Panthers front office.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
And everyone's so optimistic right now.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Yeah, but well, and the Panthers, you know, the injuries
are real, Like they had real injuries that kind of
stink so far. But you listen to them talk about
where they're as a team and whatnot, you kind of
get intoxicated by it. You're like, oh, oh, okay, you're
just naturally. I think I like the Panthers this year
to win the division, mostly because I don't like the
other teams in division very much. I think Tampa Bay

(51:51):
is backsliding fast. I just think they're going down fast.
I think I think Crack likes the under of the
Panthers too, which is we're conflicting opinions there, Buddy, how
long my line?

Speaker 4 (52:01):
We got wings on the line this year for the no.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Wasn't And okay, like think about this the Falcons right now, quarterback,
what do we do? What are we doing right?

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
And now Javon Walker's out for the season, Jalen Walker,
which is a huge loss for.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Them, huge loss, yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
And you look at New Orleans. I think New Orleans
is a rising team, but the roster's not as good
as Carolina, just not. And I think Tampa Bay is
backsliding fast this year. I don't. I think under Tampa
Bay wins. Think about where they were last year. They
started six and two, backslid right, Todd Bowles on the.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Hot seats, David retires.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
That's a loss for a year older on Baker MAYFLILX,
a year older got beat up last year. They were
they were they need Ruben Bain and Jeremiah Trotter to
play really good as rookies on defense. I just don't
love the situation in Tampa Bay. So you're getting tox
kid though. Hearing the coaches, you know, the front office
people talk about their roster building and where they're at,
and like, I'm like, oh, I like it. You you

(53:00):
you sold me. I mean I already was sold on it,
but like now you got me, you got me in.
So that's the NFL though, right, it's optimism. It's what
the NFL sells.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
By the way, any good training camp fights on your
resume there, Jeff, you know, by the way about they lost,
you know, like, oh I got killed by He has
never heard that.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
All right, you give me a few minutes to set
it up.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
So okay, good.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
In twenty eleven, uh, we have a new coaching staff,
all right. Ron Rivera comes in and we had new
offensive line coach John Matskow and John Matskow and I
didn't get along that well. But he's actually a really
good coach. Like he just just personality wise a little mesh,
but really good coach. You look at his resume, he
might still be coaching he like, look legitimately good coach,
but he's old school man, like he he loved himself

(53:45):
some fights. Okay. Now, the way I look at fights
is that there's a time and a place for a fight.
Like when I see you fighting day one a training
camp the Bengals f day one bad bad practice habits.
That's just unacceptable, right like day one, You're not fighting
day one, day seven in pads, have at it, okay,
Like that's you know, like, okay, John Coach love love fighting.

(54:08):
He loved it, okay. And I was not playing well
in training camp that year, and come to find out,
I had a hip injury and I had hip hip
hips surgery in training camp and my season was over.
But it wasn't playing very well. So I'm like, you
know what, I'm gonna start a fight today to get
on Coach's good side. So the Dan Connor, my teammate,
we were in the same draft class. After a player

(54:31):
like I shove him late after the play, he like
comes back and like shoves me, and we just start
going at it, okay, And it was a huge, you
know brawl, and my helmet fell off at one point
in the face, I'm bleeding everywhere. I got tackled. I
got tackled from behind, helmet falls off the fet Yeah,
get hit in the face by someone, you know, bleed

(54:52):
blue a little bit. But afterwards, coaches like, you know,
at a boy, like, good job sports. Okay. We get
to the team meeting and they don't show the practice
fights on the film. It's I mean they have them,
they just don't put them on the film for the
player's cut. So we're watching practice film and all you
see is me shoved Dan late. Then Dan shoves me

(55:15):
in the back and it cuts off. The film cuts
off right, okay, and John Matskow mf's me for like
three minutes for not fighting him legitimately like I was,
I've never been angry in my entire career, Like, legitimately,
MF me, You're soft, you're this, you're that. In Carolina

(55:36):
we fight people that were like ooh dude, like blood boileing,
like so freaking angry. And then he dismisses us. I
mean he goes, hey, shwart, stay behind, and Jesus he
goes he goes, hey, man, I I know you fought him.
I just I just need to fire the group up. Wow,
And I was like, but you like degraded me pretty

(56:00):
badly then, like in the last three minutes, like like you,
it's not like you said, like we gotta fight him,
like you called me out, like you called me words,
you know, four five letter words starts with a P
like like like like like you, like you called me
out in like perogatory way instead of just saying like

(56:21):
we gotta be tougher and fight like you knew I
did it. We all watched it happen.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
My I like.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
And like that type of stuff, like just never vibe
with him in that way. I also got herd never
played for him. But yeah, that's my I started fighting college,
started fighting the NFL. Fighting is tiring. No one wants
to fight. It's it's so tiring. That's why you see
only young guys fight like it's a Browns fight with
a rookie offensive lineman yesterday. Like no one wants to fight.

(56:47):
It's so tiring. And like you, and then you get
the story out of Out of Vegas where Cousins and
Crosby had to fight and coach Benchin for practice.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That story out here, what do we what do we
really think they're sitting on something? Yeah, I'd fight every.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
Day if I can, I could sit the next day.
I mean, I get it. You maybe they had a
VET day scheduled, and so it just works out better
to just say they bedged him for fighting, right, because
you know, it tells the team like, you know, we
have standards here, right, and where we could bet your
two best players. And again, they might have had a
VET day already scheduled, crack and they were gonna be
off any certainly possible, who knows, But yeah, I started

(57:25):
in college. I started to fight. We had to run
the stairs afterwards. He Coaches will tell you they don't
like fights and then like give you like a boy,
typically for him, because fights are struct practice. You've a
certain amount of practice time, right, and so if you
fight that takes up five minutes of practice, you can
get hurt, you can you you can hurt your hand
punching someone in the helmet.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
It's funny, Jeff like the philosophies. Tony Dungee was like,
no fighting ever, it's dumb, You're not gonna do it
in the game. And he was completely against it. So yeah, yeah,
funny and red.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
But here's the thing. Most coaches are anti fight that
they just are that's and that's what it is. But
they understand it's gonna happen in the middle of training camp, right,
It's just gonna happen. But like, do you do it smart? Right,
Like if you fight, don't punch each other in the helmet,
like just you want to you want to lock up,

(58:16):
you want to like tussle with each other, Like, don't
punch them one in the head, Like, just just do
it smart. Put your helmet on. So many fights you
guys on have their helmets on. The first thing you do.
What if I happened, you put your helmet on, Like
you don't keep put you guys are fighting without helmets on, Like,
just do it smart. Coaches will accept that happens if

(58:36):
you do it smart. It's like the brawls where guys
are on the ground, they're rolling around, their helmet falls off,
like they're tussled up together. Quarterbacks stay away from every fight.
I just there's like certain etiquette with the fight that
if they're gonna happen. Coaches don't like them, but they
acknowledge that they're really gonna happen. It does. And the
last thing on this, I feel very strong about this fans.

(58:57):
Fans think fights make you tough. You don't make it tough.
It's not. It's not a tough fights are it makes
it tough? They may they make your team tougher. Oh,
my team shows some fight they're aggressive. No, that's dumbn't.
It just happens. It doesn't mean anything more than what
just happened. Other than I think if you fight without
paths on, that means you have poor, poor practice habits,

(59:20):
because learning how to practice is really important. You have
a little bit about in practice time. Now, learning how
to practice correctly is what good teams do. They don't
waste any time. They get their work in, they get
the reps, and they get the technique in. I think
there's a lot of teams that just watch them practice.
I just think that the habits are really bad. There's
some college teams. I see their videos. I'm like, what

(59:41):
are we What are we doing? Why are you putting
this out there? That's not a good practice rep? Why
why are we highlighting that on on on the internet.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Man, I'll tell you what. That's a top shelf story.
I don't know many players that have the story of yeah,
I got dog cussed, not fighting, Although I actually did
fight with I've.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Never been that way in my life.

Speaker 7 (01:00:01):
I just.

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
And again, I don't fight very much, so like, at
least give me the out boy for fighting. Yeah, yeah,
give me like, give me the give me the That
was my last one I've been in and that was
your four. I stoppeding. I just again, it's too tiring
to fight after a certain age, just like I don't
want to do this anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Hey, by the way, Crack, you gave out Jets plus
one Jets minus one at bet MGM. Now, so wow,
two points.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I knew it was a good line. I'm looking right, Yeah,
I knew it was a decent line. Plus I've seen
Pickhams and then I seen minus one, but but they
had plus one. I was like, well, what I actually
did bet the Jets yesterday, and I think that's a
I actually found the one and a half, but one's
still a good number. I just figured they had a
little opinion. But so someone's someone's listening for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Speaking of which, there was a lot of games moving
around yesterday in the NFL. Uh because there was a
the market came up. Quicker didn't expect the market to
come up till Monday, did not know it would be up.
You know, with most of the sportsbooks having lines on Sunday,
excuse me, Saturday morning, but that Chiefs game is one

(01:01:12):
of the ones that did not move. It open to
one and a half. It's still one and a half.
Kansas City, LA Rams first. First, of course, first preseason
week here, they're games on Saturday, but there's there's games
on Thursday and Friday. And definitely a lot of these
games moved around. And I have so many that I
want to talk about. I may just give out at

(01:01:35):
the end, not talk about it, just give out place
at the end of the show. I actually may give
out three plays instead of the customary too. Let's go
that MGM still has decent lines on these games.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I don't know if they're just slower to move today
or but as we've seen with the Jets, you've seen
it was plus one and one is the key number
in the NFL preseason one and two one probably a
little bit more because uh, you know, these teams at
the end of the game, let's say the games you know,
I don't know, I'll use a low scoring game fourteen
to seven and the team that has sevens driving down

(01:02:11):
for the end of the game. They're not gonna kick
the extra point, just that they're gonna they're gonna go
for two, so they're gonna win by one or lose
by one. So that's right. That's well.

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Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
Follow the money, real good money.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Yes, our good friend, Christian Sipolini, BETMGM, Senior trading manager,
he joins us, good morning to you, Christian. Okay, so
let's look at the Red Sox, shall we. They finally
lost the game yesterday, but they've still been red hot.
It's amazing to me. They were thirty two and forty
six in late June and since then they've gone thirty
two and six Like that's insanity. So I'm just curious

(01:03:49):
what the bets are looking like for the Red Sox
on a day to day basis. Are they just the
public the sharps, They just hammering the Red Sox. And
where's your risk in terms of futures for the Red
Sox right now? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
Hey, so, of course that always tends to happen anytime
like a really big streak like this goes on, where
it just feels like a team no matter what, can't lose.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I mean of course every game.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Now that the Red Sox are becoming bigger and bigger favorites,
they're there minus two fifty today, but that doesn't stop
people when when a streak like this happens, a majority
of our action will now start coming in on the
Red Sox. So over the last couple of weeks, you know,
if we look at a Red Sox game, it's going
to be seventy five eighty percent of the money towards
the Red Sox. So this hasn't been the best dredge

(01:04:33):
for the sports books. After this has kind of started
to get known, this is where it's picked up. I say,
like the last like two weeks is where when I
look at Red Sox games now it's a majority there.
From the futures book perspective, though we're still in an
okay spot, they are one of the teams that we
do have liability on and of the realistic teams that
have a shot. They're probably one of the teams that

(01:04:55):
we're rooting against. But in terms of how much money
they're taking, it's still, of course even close to the Dodgers.
But I'd say it looks like they're top five in
bet money so far this season on the Futures books,
so obviously very popular in a lot of that has
come lately.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Am I the first person to ever ask for a
bigger w A NBA menu on the website? I think
on the app? Can can we get can we get
a bigger menu of wagers? Early early in the day?

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
Yeah, Actually, it's something we've been talking about and working on,
especially with uh. You know, we're always trying to look
ahead and there's you know, potential for a lockout next
season and if so, that means h w NBA will
be the only game in town. So we have been
looking to expand our offering. And you know, with that,
the popularity of w NBA is picked up each and
every year, so you know, even if we do have

(01:05:45):
baseball next year, we'll still expect to see a rise
to continue in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
The w n B A.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
So definitely something we're looking into.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Christian, how was Thursday Nights first Open to the Hall
of Fame game? Preseason football? More of the volume than
you expected? That people were just had that thirst for
the game or were you surprised either way by by
the end? How'd you guys do? Also?

Speaker 7 (01:06:12):
Yeah, so I mean not surprising the amount of action
we get. It was of course our most bet on
game of the day. Even with that, if you took
the MLB as a whole for that day, the NFL
game took about like twenty five thirty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Of the handle of the entire MLB.

Speaker 7 (01:06:27):
So it just kind of tells you the scale.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Of that's a lot how big the NFL is, and you.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Know, it's just a preseason game all the way in
August still takes that much action. So we did okay
on the game. It's a preseason game, especially an early
preseason game, is one of the very few times all
year that we will take under bets, so we took
it was about fifty fifty on our total action, so
we were we weren't saying a lot of under beets. Obviously,

(01:06:52):
this is a game that went way over, so we
were we were actually ready for the Cardinals, and you know,
we kind of didn't really have much of a preference
on on the town with there not being any player
props out there, So you know, we lost a little
bit on the Panthers, but you know that's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
Uh, Christian, can you expand that a little bit with
let's say you got like six games on Thursday, or
you have more of a betting menu. In terms of
NFL preseason, what does that look like just generally speaking,
the handle the money that you bring in for NFL
preseason compared to the money you bring in for the
baseball slate that day, what does that typically look like.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Yeah, so like next week this week, when we have
you know, more games on the same day, I'll, you know,
I'll try to look and see what the difference is.
Actually Usually when there is like one standalone game like that,
it actually ends up taking about the handle that if
there was five or six games, So I would bet
that you know, where I said it was thirty percent
of the MLB handle, It probably would be forty something

(01:07:52):
like that if we had more games. But when there
is a standalone like that because it's the only game
in town, it just always does end up taking a
lot more action. Obviously, a regular NFL slate, when you
know we're doing that, that's kind of a different different story.
Preseason can always be hit or missed. You know, it's
not gonna it's not going to gather a ton of
intentionally from every single NFL ban. There's plenty of people

(01:08:14):
that stay away just because of so much uncertainty and
you know, not not knowing what's going to happen, how
long the players are going to play. But of course
the NFL is king around here, so it is still
always their most popular sport.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Do you guys have a lot of future action on
college football? Week zero is coming up before we know it.
You know, there's practice film out now that practice film,
but there's practice highlights out there as a coaches pull
out every all the media days are done. Uh, these
are certain you know, more news like unrested in North Carolina?
Do you find a lot of people making future wages
in college football? Are still like slow? Is it normal?

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Where are you guys at with that?

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
Yeah, I mean it's it's still football, So it's you know,
obviously the degree that the NFL is. But of course
the popularity is extremely high for the futures. Actually, I
mean we've still taken already a lot of money on
our futures, on our futures book. That does continue to
pick up as we get closer, and as you're kind
of mentioned, the closeness is approaching and approaching fast. The

(01:09:15):
college will work a little bit differently because of the
fact that you don't really see much of these teams
until they get out there on Week zero and start playing,
so there's less so that the NFL, like with the
NFL player prompts, you know, camp news, will start to
takeovers and unders on certain players. Judging by that camp news,
that sort of thing doesn't end up happening as much
with college football, but of course there's rumors and you

(01:09:36):
don't know how certain teams are looking, so it will
be there, but just not to the degree the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:09:42):
Will be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Christian I bet the Jets what you guys yesterday, We
me and my team were pretty surprised that that how
much market. We really didn't think we were going to
make a bet till Monday. So there was a lot
of marketplace that opened up Friday night yesterday morning, and
there's lots of opportunities, and like I said, I did

(01:10:05):
find the one to bet with you guys on the
Jets plus one and a half. So what's your own
personal opinion? Do you do you wish from a just
a fan standpoint or the bet MGM company standpoint that
there wasn't preseason so early. Would you rather just take
bets on the day of the game, which I'm sure

(01:10:26):
it's still a winner, even though there's a lot of
information out there and it's not the kind of volume,
it's still got to be overall a pretty nice winner
for all the sports books. I just wanted to know
what your personal take was also on the preseason.

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
Yeah. Personally, yeah, I always for preseason, I like to
just wait as long as possible, But that's not the
world that we're in, and that's not the market we're in.
At this point. You know, everybody else is going to
go up early, so you know, you kind of get
your hands tied and have to go up. You know,
there's so much uncertainty in these type of games, but
you know the way that well, we'll work it. As
you know, our limits are obviously so much lower on

(01:11:00):
a preseason game, so that's kind of the way that
we'll protect ourselves. But you know, as you're mentioning, you know,
these things can can really move, and especially the earlier
you open up, uh, you know, the more opportunity that
you have to to kind of be on the wrong
side of the number or just kind of hang a
bad number out there for longer, you know, because there
is a ton of information in this preseason so far

(01:11:22):
in this you know, their training camps, just a ton
of player news. Players get kind of little injuries. You know,
you can start to learn that this team might play
their starters for half of the game instead of a
team that might play for a series or two, and
that's really key information. So yeah, personally, for me, I
would love to just wait as long as I could,
but not the reality that we live in and not

(01:11:43):
the market we live. And of course people want to
bet on it. They love the NFL, and you know
we check now obviously we'll get it up as early
as we possibly can.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Well, hey, Christian, great stuff as always, man, and bittersweet today.
It's always great to visit with you, but our four
year sponsorship deal with UH with bet MGM has come
to an end today and so it's certainly bittersweet. But man,
it's been amazing for four years. Bet MGM has been
a tremendous partner and it's been really a treat to

(01:12:11):
talk to you every Sunday. You've crushed it every single time.
The data you have is second to none, So we
always appreciate your time, man, and we'll miss you like crazy, hopefully,
we'll be able to cross pass here sooner than later, man,
But we really appreciate you and thank you for all
the time we'll spend together with.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Yeah, you have crushed it over the years here with
fantastic answers, very transparent. We really appreciate that and look
forward to definitely hearing from you in the future.

Speaker 7 (01:12:38):
Yeah, gant, I just got that news the other day
as well, So you know, I had a great time
chatting with you guys over the years, you know, so
really appreciate you guys giving me the opportunity and I
just love chatting with you and hopefully not the total end,
but yeah, thanks a.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Lot, absolutely, and don't you know, don't think that I'll
set the over under at fifty and a half texts
of like, hey, Christian, what do you need today at
bet MGM. You know I might hit you up from
time to time as far as that goes, man, So yeah, please.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
Do that'd be great.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
Yeah, all right, Christen, May you have a great day man,
and hope to catch you soon down the road.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:13:15):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Thank guys too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
There he is Christian Sippolini, bet MGM, Senior trading Manager.
I don't know if the law firm is breaking up
right now, the Cipolini and Low and Crown Law firm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
I prayed it to think about that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Yeah, we will continue.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
We will continue to be there for all your legal needs,
along with our unnamed partner, Lionel Hunts from the Simpsons.
By the way, we start. Fellas in the NFL, where
multiple outlets reported on Saturday night that Washington Commanders five
time Pro Bowl left tackle Laramie Tunsel tore his triceps
and practice Saturday and will miss at least a significant

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portion of the regular season. Baseball Saturday night at the
Los Angeles Dodgers broke their seven game losing streak with
a ten inning victory at Arizona two to one. The
Tampa Bay Ray became the first in the American League
to seventy wins with a three to two win at
Seattle White Sox over Cleveland six to three, so the
White Sox lead the AL Central Buy three over Cleveland

(01:14:10):
and the Minnesota Twins. Finally fellas. In golf at a
member's only tournament at Winghn Country Club outside of Saint Louis,
a competitor who was part of the first group of
the day went ahead of his group to tee off
on the fourth hole. When the rest of his group arrived.

(01:14:30):
The players said he lost sight of where his t
shot landed. When they got to the green, they found
his ball in the hole for a hole in one,
even recording the following video to commemorate it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
What just happened? Yeh, only my burma, it's here number four, let's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Walk in it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Some people found all this a little suspicious. They sought
out the course superintendent, who were viewed security camera footage
from a nearby maintenance shed from early in the morning
before the tournament that showed the member sneaking up to
the hole and putting the ball into it. The member

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has subsequently resigned from the club.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
But get this.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
He even called w XOS radio in Saint Louis to confess,
and to his credit, was contrite, listen, there.

Speaker 11 (01:15:27):
Really is no motivation, just complete stupidity. We were giving
two shots backs to the field and that's not an excuse.
There's no excuse for what happened. But we were giving
two shots backs to the field, and I went about
it just completely and utterly in the run.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
A lot of drama in that's Saint Louis country club scene.
Back to you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Man oh man, Yeah, it didn't sound genuine like walk
it in, baby. What was the line something like that,
like walk it in? It sounded like you were seating
right there. Great stuff. IL all right, We've got a
Bill Krachenberger, Professionals, Arts handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran.
I'm Brian Nell coming up next. Prop it up. That's right,
the prop betting market. We will wait in those waters

(01:16:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Prop it up player plays.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Okay, prop bets galore, crack. We start with you, what
do you like today?

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
And I have Paul guys. I'm here writing up tweets
which I think I will talk about, by the way,
in a little bit now. Just in general, nothing nothing bad,
but we've been crushing these WNBA props all seasons. Let's
stick to that. Today's matchup between New York and Las Vegas,
and we're gonna go with Brianna Stewart over twenty five

(01:17:21):
and a half points and assists. She's been on fire
lately and a good matchup against the Aces in a
game that should be high scoring. Uh, Brianna Stewart over
points and assists twenty five and a half all right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
That number, by the way, has moved a little bit
to liberty because the Aces announced they're sitting with everybody.
So that's a wa baseball again, back the leadership, right,
you have Aces play three games and four days against
the three best teams in basketball. Like yeah, they said
they're sitting on a national TV game twelve thirty Eastern
today on a Sunday because they just played the best

(01:17:54):
team in basketball yesterday. But that's your fault. Why would
you do this? Like again, it goes back to poor
leadership and not really figuring things out?

Speaker 7 (01:18:03):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (01:18:03):
Fever Links Liberty three three and four days? Silly? All right,
I'm gonna give you a wall you can put on
the graphic and then one a second one the first one.
I don't want to give this out. Have I given
out Texas Tech to win the Big Twelve? Yet? Have
I given that out? I don't even talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
I don't think you've given it out.

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
I'll give it out officially. Like, look at their schedule.
They're gonna be in the Big Ten championship game. They
don't play the best of their conference, which is hugely important. Right.
A lot of this comes down to how do you
get your conference championship game? For a lot of times
it's who you play, right in this In this situation,
they don't play Utah and they don't play by U.

(01:18:43):
They're they're gonna be the Big Ten champions game. And
I got plus one hundred. It's better than well all
get in that game. So I'll take that. The other
one I like is in ben MGM again has a
big menu stuff. You sometimes have to go find these
things down. I took a picture of just to make
sure I have it right ready. Here we go to
have the most teams win ten plus regular season games. Okay,

(01:19:06):
I took the Big Ten. They're the favorite. Plus one
oh five. They're gonna have at least two or three.
The SEC is not gonna have three. They're just not.
They have nine conference games. Now we're gonna have maybe
Georgia wins ten. Maybe Texas gotta beat Ohio State. Like
that game right there will determine I think if we
get three in the Big ten or two in the

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Big ten, and then if we get two in the
SEC or one in the SEC. So plus one oh
five Big ten to have the most teams win ten games.
You can't put that on the graphics and put the
tech second one out the first and then this is
the second one. We got a second one for you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
You got it, Okay, Yeah, I thought I thought there
was a next play that. Okay, that's what I say. Yeah,
I was like understood, Yeah, Texas Tech on that day for.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
Social media, Big ten have got most. Yeah, ten teams.
That's my second wager.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yeah, I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (01:20:04):
Crack and I were on the same uh the same time,
like wavelength, Like I was waiting for a you know,
a Dolphins season win total under or something.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
You know, I think there was another play, right, Oh no, Yeah,
that's Bryan's team. Hey, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
The same stories last year. Man, that's gonna be a
long year. I'm gonna go with Mariner's pitcher, Emerson Hancock.
Give me under four and a half strikeouts today, the
juices moved quite a bit. It's actually moved toward the over,
which I'm I'm not quite understanding here. I'll take the under.
It's at minus one twenty. It's a good price the race.
They strike out the least amount of times throughout the season,

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and I look for them to against the guy who's
not a strikeout pitcher. He's he's thrown more innings, he's
got more innings pitched than strikeouts this season, and he's
going up against the team that strikes out the least
amount of times. At four and a half, I'm surprised,
as at four and a half. Sometimes they're at three
and a half. So I like Hancock to go under
four and a half k against the race today. That's

(01:21:02):
what I got for you. And I feel like I
need to bring I feel like I went to a
party and I just brought soda and I should have
brought ships or you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
did me with the numerous pixel All right? Coming up next,
we'll look at season long props with a couple of guys.
Coming up, Oh, what is going on? Happy Sunday too?
You hope all is well? Crack will circle back to

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your Twitter fingers here in just a bit. We're looking
forward to that. But we'll start it off with ball
right here, shall we. So we'll mix ball with season
long prop bets because Bijon Robinson with the Falcons and
Jamiir Gibbs, the Lions stud running back, they both got
three year contract extensions this week, and so I started
looking at their season long prop bets and wanted to

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pick your brains over here, Jeff and Crack respectively. I
think you always have to add that right there. I
don't know what it is with you know, anytime you
read a column or an article, you gotta I'm surprised
not in capital letters right there, but in any way.
In any event, let's go with Let's start with Jamiir Gibbs. Okay,
so I'll give you his prop bet numbers and then

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his recent production. So hopefully you don't feel like you're
swimming in a sea of numbers here. But Jamiir Gibbs
is rushing yards. His prop bet on bet MGM is
at twelve hundred point five and each of the last
two years he's gone over that. There's no David Montgomery
in that backfield anymore. He's now with the Houston Texans.
So Jamiir Gibbs is going to be the featured featured

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back right no more, you know, like dividing up the
carries as much as we've seen in the past. So
Jamiir he had outside of his rookie year, right, so
year two over fourteen hundred yards rushing. Last year over
twelve hundred yards rushing. So let's start with that. We'll
start simply, what do you think about his rushing yards total?
Are you interested on the over or the under? Now

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that he's the main, main guy there in Detroit.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
I mean, I just have a hard to take any
running back over. You miss a month and it's over, right, yep.
I mean I think if you want to look at
Jamire Gibbs over, I feel more comfortable with probably touchdowns.
He'll get more of the red zone carries more often now.
And I think the way to play running backs, guys is, uh,

(01:23:17):
we did this a lot last year, Brian Is you
take the backup over in the game.

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
Over rushing individual game show.

Speaker 5 (01:23:24):
We did it a lot last year with Blake korm
It was a good It was a good wager for
the Rams. You know, anytime the Eagles are playing, it
seems to be a good wager to take the backup
running back. And sometimes don't don't go live till the
game starts, because you know, like you're just gonna get
opportunity to get you know, seven carries on a team
that runs the ball, and it's like ten and a
half twelve now corms will I think it's more of

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the carries, but that that feels like I would rather
just take who's the light it's actually Pacheco is I
might not take us over, like I'd rather take Pachaco
under under for him for the season because he just
can't run the ball anymore. He can't break any tackles,
so that feels like a player on Pachaco. I'd rather
that's what I run to Potaco under more than like

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mcgibb's over.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
How about this crack. Also where Jeff mentioned the rushing touchdowns,
So the prop for Jamiir is at twelve and a half.
So year two he had sixteen. Last year he had thirteen,
and that's splitting time with David Montgomery. So yeah, you
interested in any of those twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
This will be easy money.

Speaker 7 (01:24:28):
I know it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Jeff's right right, he gets nicked up man all of
a sudden, your over bets are looking.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
And by the way, Pichecko is one of my own.
I don't know if I don't think I've given it
out in the spot, but Pachecko's one of my season
long unders. I bet on his yardage. I bet that
when I was back east, I was in Pennsylvania and
I found a good number on that. But you know,
I know I sound like a broken record when it
comes to these season long player props. I have a
really hard time playing any of them over. With injuries

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and the possibility of teams resting their stars, I would
only suggest probably playing under on either of these guys.
With these huge contracts that these teams should be even
more cautious with their star running back, so there's even
the possibility of resting them if they are a little
banged up. Believe it or not. Again, only unders for
me on the season long props mostly, I think I

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bet seven so far, which is you know, it's interesting.
The books have caught up with the market. I used
to bet, or almost caught up with the market. I
used to bet about seventy five percent unders, maybe eighty
percent at one time on season long player props. It's
probably sixty forty now sixty two thirty eight something like

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that on the unders. Because the books really make these
numbers now real competitive. They even put in the number
maybe a game or two of that that's a particular
player not playing. This has just happened this season. We've
noticed it. So by this time last year, I had

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at least fifteen plays. I think I have about half
of that now, maybe six or seven, with six unders
and one over.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
So there you go, who's the lone ranger over?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Yeah, I'll get that. I actually get that. I usually
I don't. I mean, I haven't given out everything to
a lot of you guys, So oh, By the way,
Pachecko was under four to seventy five and a half
rushing yards. I bet that, And let's see if I
can find the over here Bowers. So Bowers over eight
hundred and seventy four and a half receiving yards minus

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a dollar twenty I bet that. When I was back
east that same day, I bet Pierce under nine forty
nine and a half. So there's a whole bunch of
plays for people listening. So Pierce under, Bowers over and
what was it? But Checko was under. Yeah, there's a
whole bunch five. Yeah you like that, Well, I might
as well keep going. I have lemon under receiving yards
and pickings under receiving yards too, So there's there's my unders.

(01:26:58):
There you go. Now you guys have the whole sheet.
What is uh?

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
What's George Pickens number right there?

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Pickens was a big one. Yeah, eleven hundred one, one
hundred point five. They always put a point five, which
they should if I'm a sportsbook director. Never let anyone
get their money back for the end of the year
in a push, so I always be a half on these.
And what was the other one? The the rookie, the
Rookie Levin the six seventy five and a half receiving yards.

(01:27:25):
You know what, now that we're giving that out, I
want to just tell you my main guy, who I
have three different prop guys, but he actually said, might
be worth another bet on that. So maybe looking at
at Pickens at a different number or not Pickens. I'm sorry, Lemon, Lemon,
I see it under six fifty and a half. So
h yeah, there's a perfect example, guys. What I mean?

(01:27:46):
So I had like five unders. I just gave you
as the one over on player prop season long and
you know, people say, oh, you can't tie your money
up for this, My god, are you crazy tiring your money? Listen,
I think the ROI on Futures season wins play season
one player props. I think the ROI. I know, the

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ROI for me has been more than almost any investment
that I can invest in. So that's just something I do.
And I didn't mean to cut into your time here
about this situation with Robinson and Gibbs here.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Oh no, you're good. Yeah, listen, you're going Santa crack here. Yeah,
you just make it rain with plays left and right.
I think they care about Jamir and Bijon. They're all
interesting what you're saying. Let me let me bring it
back to Beijon for a second, because listen, Bijeon has
been as durable as it gets in the NFL. He
started seventeen games in each of his first three seasons.

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He's a seventeen seventeen seventeen guy. And so like his production.
If we're talking about unders with Bijeon, it's gonna test
your mental fortitude over here, because his rushing yards prop
is that eleven fifty and a half always the point five,
So eleven fifty in each of the last two years
he's been over fourteen fifty. And then the rushing touchdowns.

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Year two we had fourteen rushing touchdowns. Last year seven
rushing touchdowns, but Tyler Aljeer cut into that quite a bit.
And now he's in Arizona. So it's Bjon Robinson and
Brian Robinson. Remember the old Washington Commander's running back, So
Bjhon Robinson's rushing touchdowns, it's at eight and a half.
If Bjon Robinson doesn't get nine rushing touchdowns this season,

(01:29:24):
I think he's missed multiple games. I think it's tough
to take either under with Pjon right there. What do
you think about that, Jeff.

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
Yeah, I think it'd be tough to feel that way
without out here there right, you'll get more reps for him.
I do not like this running back extension for Bjon Robinson. No,
and I will explain why actually they should have traded him.
I think that the data is proving out that drafting

(01:29:52):
running back in the first round or extending and running
back only makes sense if you have the pieces around
him to be really good.

Speaker 4 (01:30:00):
Fair enough. Yeah, you look at what One.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
Has done, and McCaffrey has done, and even I think
what Gibbs will do. You know, are the cold skin
the most Jonathan Taylor extension, right, or are the Falcons
with their no quarterback situation going to get the most
out of bij What if Bijon, you know, he leads
a couple of wins and now they're six and eleven,

(01:30:23):
seven and nine, then right they draft eighteen instead of
drafting in the top five, which they need to do
to quarterback in the future. I just think it's a
waste of money when you're able when you do that.
So that's my that to me is the issue is
I just I just think that you can't pay the
running back all this money unless you're able to use
the running back in a way that makes sense. What

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if what if they traded Bejeon and the Bears for
two first round picks? Would would the Falcons be better
off in the future with that trade or paying him
all this money?

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Well, hey, I agree with you, Jeff, because think about
the middle of last season when the Jets, who are
in the midst of this horrible season, they traded away
defensive lineman Quinn Williams, and they traded away their corner
Sauce Gardner, and they weren't saying those players think. What
they were saying is they came to the realization that
their window to compete for a playoff spot and beyond

(01:31:15):
does not sync up with those players' windows, right, And
so they traded those guys. They got a bunch of
drafts capital, and now they're trying to rebuild it. And
that made a lot of sense. So you could argue
that the Falcons are in a very similar position now.
They're not a bottom feeder like the Jets were last season,
but they're caught in the middle. So it's like, does
Bijeon is a superstar right now? Does his window of

(01:31:39):
being in his prime at his peak? Does that line
up with the Falcons? Are they team wise in their
peak and challenging for a playoff spot and beyond? Like, no,
they're not. So I agree with you. I think that's
a very good point as far as you crack. We
get to your Twitter fingers here, what's going on with
the got you're responding to some presets football?

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
Can I give the lead to this place?

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
I love more they do this?

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
This is so an ESPN betting analyst. Listen to that. Again,
ESPN betting analysts like someone who supposedly is supposed to
be like, you know, understanding the business, understanding what goes
into sports wagering, doesn't bet at all, which is again,

(01:32:24):
and we've talked about this before, like I think you
have to have some skin in the game. It could
be one dollar ten dollars, Like you have to have
something in the game. Otherwise, like what's the point, like
you you have to like it just to me not
betting at all. Again, it could be one dollar five
dollars ten. This is something it kind of defeats the
purpose of talking about it if you're not have skin
in the game. But tweeted out that ain't nobody locked

(01:32:48):
into preaches in football A bunch of liars. This is
this is their this is their prominent betting analyst. They
don't have a lot of them at ESPN. Is not
walked into the preseason and and I know tweeted at her.
Some other people have tweeted it, and you crack.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
You know, I wasn't going to. But this is like
the second or third time that she said something to this.
I think she's looking for interaction. I hope I didn't
fall for the bab No, no.

Speaker 7 (01:33:15):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (01:33:17):
She genuinely that you're an idiot for betting on preci football.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Yeah, and believe it or not, I've actually talked to
her in the past. She actually does bet, so I
give her that credit. She does bet. Yes, that's just yes,
she she texts. She texted me that she does bet.
This was a couple of years ago. She actually.

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
I I the way she talks about sports wagering. I
can't you don't talk about sports wagering the way she does.
If you bet money, very good?

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like this is like the the third
time someone just text me actually sogged. Yeah, you can't
say you really shouldn't say things if you don't know
the sports betting market. And you know, I have problems
with a lot of things at ESPN. One of my
best friends, Howie Schwab, who passed away a couple of

(01:34:12):
years ago, stumped to Schwab ESPN. They sent out this
thing saying how sorry they were for their extreme colleague.
Well that's not the way how he felt about ESPN.
So I went right after ESPN multiple times on my
socials for their BS things. And I guess that's going
to people say, oh my god, crack, are you crazy.
You can't go after ESPN's You're never going to get

(01:34:34):
a job. I don't want a job there, Thank god,
Thank god. Bill Krackerberger's good in life. I'm very happy
with Fox Sports Radio. I'm very happy with betting sports
for a living. I'm very happy with my life. You know,
I don't want a lot of things that they do.
I just don't think is one hundred percent right, including

(01:34:54):
the hiring of some of it. And now I shouldn't
say I don't want to know when to get fired
the betting analysts. But she's actually has nice write ups
and you know, she does things like that. She might
even know more about the individual teams and stuff. But
I could tell you one thing. She know know more
and more about sports betting than me. You know, she
may not even know more sports betting than my little

(01:35:14):
Louis here, my little dog. But no, you know, like
to say this again and to use the words, I
had to tweet out something to her, and I hope
she doesn't take offense to it. I was cute though
the way I did it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
I think you had a bully cracked. It was good.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
No, ain't nobody locked in the preseason football? A bunch
of liars? And I said quote, I only wish Pam
was a consultant to so much for not saying her name.
I only wish Pam was a consultant to the many
sports books that limit myself and others to pennies on
preseason and other sports Kelly and Vegas, China and chiming
in here and a couple other people. But I'm not

(01:35:52):
looking for confrontation or anything bad. I just I just
think they should be more informed. Listen, do you know
how hard it is for me to get down on
preseason football? I mean, I want to bet decent amount
of money and most sportsbooks will take pennies or peanuts
or nothing, or even throw me out or limit me
because of it, because a lot of these games I

(01:36:14):
bet are going to move a couple points by the
time the game goes off, so they don't want those
type of bets, or they want, you know, minimal bets
on those they don't want. They don't want to have
to be It's called hung out on a number. So
no words. Let's say I took the Jets plus one
and a half. I woke up this morning and seen
that bet MGM still had plus one. I gave it

(01:36:34):
out on the show this morning, one of the first
bets I gave out two hours ago, and sure enough
we see it immediately moved to minus one. That doesn't
sound like a big move, but it does sound It
is a lot during preseason when they teams try to
win by one a lot of times, so teams don't
want to get hung out on a number, hung out
to dry on one number. This is a sport that

(01:36:57):
in preseason. I know her word was a bunch of liars. Well,
I gotta tell you, I wish we had twenty weeks
of preseason and only three weeks of regular season. That's
how much info's out there by following beat reporters, following
the team's socials, following players socials. And again, I know

(01:37:18):
I'm a broken record for people that I've heard me
say this before, but maybe there's some new listeners listening in.
Its just I know what I have done my career
against sportsbooks on preseason football. Yeah, trust me, trust me.
The bookmakers are usually bringing extra pairs of underweares to
work during preseason preseason football.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
It's all, well, I'll just tell you crack to me,
it's just an outdated take in terms of no one's
betting preseason football. Like that's so outdated. How many pros
have sat here like you and said, look, I get
such an edge betting many preseason games. I'm just surprised
that take is still out there. You know where apply

(01:38:01):
this to the regular season. If there were a regular
season game where you had the information going in, like, hey,
the starters are probably gonna play the entire first half.
The other team their starter is gonna play a drive
maybe the first quarter. You're telling me you're not betting
that regular season game. You're hammering that regular season game.
That's what the preseason mostly is. So I'm just surprised

(01:38:24):
that take was thrown out there like that.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Well people think that though. You'll see tweets people say
you bet preseason all you're degenerated.

Speaker 4 (01:38:30):
Yeah, it's you're a loud crazy surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
And I don't blame them. They just don't know. But
she should know. You're on ESPN, you should know.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
Correct. The other thing about preseason that I find so
funny is the people that are like, I'm not watching it, well, congratulations,
Like do you want an award? Yeah, you want an
award for not watching the preseason. The same people that
are like, I want football back in May. It's like, well,
you don't want to watch. Like the thing about it

(01:39:03):
is if you're watching the preseason, you know it's not
the regular season. So like that's what it is like
going into it thinking it's something more than it is
is a you problem, not a me problem. It's a
U problem. The Hall of Faming, by the way, was
thirty three thirty. It was entertaining. It was an entertaining game.
Now we lost some money on it depending on what
side you were on, but like it was a legitimately

(01:39:25):
entertaining football game and and so like to make it
to make this case that like I'm not watching it
because I'm better than you, and I'm I you're not
better than me. I want to watch football, like I'm
I'm okay watching football when it's on. And it was
again entertaining game. I think it was zero zer after
one quarter too, which is hilarious. Point three quarters to

(01:39:45):
the fact is like I actually think there's a reason
for this by the way I think that, I don't
think I know offensive defense. They're way more advanced now
to start the season because I have less preachas in games,
like they put stuff in earlier, so you get just
a better functioning game plan to be like, that's part
of it as well. And so you're gonna get better
football early in the season, just better looking football. And

(01:40:08):
so I don't want to hear you don't want to
watch It's football, man, don't say you don't want to
watch it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
Yeah right, yeah, it's it's different if you're having a
conversation like, no, man, I'm really not watching a whole
lot of preseason football. It's just not my thing. It
never seems to go like that. It's this big hey,
everybody gather around I'm not watching preseason. It's like, okay, cool,
you want a cookie for that? It's just you're right,
it's weird cooking stret I love it, Chris Rock cookie. Yeah,

(01:40:36):
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
One of the what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 (01:40:38):
Yeah, that's right, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:40:40):
One of our.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
Responses to her her sweet is you should take this
post down. It has to be for engagement. Now. That's
that was I was thinking that the first thing I said.
But one of you guys, I think Jeff said no,
it's not for engagement. So but yeah, I thought it
might be for engagement. All right, enough, I'm I'm I'm
sure I'll take some flack here, but we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:41:01):
No you will, it should be all good. We got
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so there was a great go figure moment last night
involving two baseball games. How about the Red Sox Red
Hot They started off thirty two and forty six. They've
now gone thirty two and six in their last thirty

(01:42:28):
eight games. It's insane. It's the same number of wins
with forty fewer losses. Isn't that insane. It's an amazing turnaround.
But just when you thought they're gonna do it again,
they had a two to nothing lead in the first
inning against the A's. They lost seven to three, So
go figure there. And then meanwhile, the Dodgers, they have
been on the struggle bus. They had lost seven straight

(01:42:49):
games heading into last night. They've got a one nothing
lead against the Diamondbacks. The Diamondbacks hit a triple and
then another triple. They've tied the game. They've got a
runner on third, nobody out. So just when you think,
all right, I had the Dodgers probably gonna lose another game,
they find a way to get it to extras. They
win the game. So the red hot Red Sox they
lost last night. The ice cold Dodgers found a way

(01:43:12):
to hold on last night. So go figure. That's what
makes sports great unless you know you lost sports sports bets,
you know, like the go figure moments not as great
when you lose sports wagers. But as a fan, it's fantastic.
But what do you make of this, Jeff, what do
you think about the ice cold Dodgers, the red hot
Red Sox.

Speaker 5 (01:43:29):
So Diaz boot another say last night, as you mentioned
with the Dodgers, they ended up getting home in the
tenth fitting yesterday, I didn't think it's a long season
and we're in the middle of August and the Dodgers
win total I took up. I think, I don't forget.
If you had a crack to under one oh three
and a half, you might got a better number that
I did. Like, they're just not gonna it's a long year,
man Like, It's just that's a super long season.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
One three and a half.

Speaker 5 (01:43:51):
You see it with the Red Sox winning like thirty
of thirty two game ever, it's in the same number,
and it's just it's a long year. And the Dodger
have ups and downs there they get to move one
of their starters or maybe two of them into the
bullpen for the playoffs. I mean, they're gonna have so
much depth pitching. Otani's one hundred percent right now. I
think it's fun with Baseball's like who wins the n
L m VP because if Otania doesn't get back to

(01:44:13):
pitching PCA is gonna gonna win that award from him,
I think at the moment Pete Armstrong from the Cubs.
So there's a lot of these season awards that are
still up for grabs. It does feel like, you know,
Cy Young, the Yankees guy, is gonna win that one
in the n L at Miss probably right. I think
he's a favorite right now. Schemes is slowing down, He's

(01:44:34):
not pitched as well last last month of the season
because velossity numbers are way down. Uh Mis does though today,
So it'd be fun to watch for the Brewers. I mean,
it's just a lot of these other storylines that you know,
I don't I don't really Dodger as a favorite to win.
I think that's fair. Who else who's who meets them
in the AL. You know, Tampa Bays, they do the
same thing every year and I don't really trust them

(01:44:55):
come postis in time, so that's uh that, you know,
we'll see they don't have the postseason about the big
arms and big bats like that's what it comes down to.
And do the Rays have enough of that? Obviously Kevin
Arrow was great, but did they have enough of that
in totality? Bright I don't know. But the Dodgers, you know,
it's scuffing right now. I'd still take them win the

(01:45:15):
World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah, uh, you know this in right here in the space.
Last week we came on air, I think the day
before school was the big schoopl trade and I actually
went and put a tweet out because after talking to
Christian and just thinking common sense that people are just
gonna say, oh, the Dodgers will lock it up. I
put a tweet out the next day saying how much

(01:45:37):
of attack you're gonna have to pay if you're betting
the Dodgers this week? And uh, and even to win
the World Series, win the Pennant, whatever it may be.
And then they went on this big skid. I think
they were they already lost too in a row that
at that point, but they went on this big skid.
It just shows how human they are now. They're just
any given Sunday we say, well, any given day, the

(01:45:58):
Dodgers do not have to win, you know, you know,
even I don't want to see the World Series, even
the Pennant. They don't have to win the Pennant. So
but I know they're big favorites to do it. But
if you bet it. You're gonna lay. You're gonna pay
a lot more money, but maybe not after this particular
losing streak, but I still think you will. Because books
have so much of their risk on the Dodgers, they're

(01:46:19):
forced to give you a bad price if you're betting
the Dodgers. So just keep that in mind. And I'll
just say this in general, I'm glad football's here. I
don't have to worry about, you know, any baseball anymore. Listen.
I love watching baseball. I love watching the playoffs, World Series,
but at this point, you know, the MLB season, it
gets a little bit boring. On the dog days of summer,

(01:46:40):
they say, and football's back, baby, there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Absolutely, by the way, Jeff, the Rays they kind of
feel not to, you know, go complete mixed sports. But
I think it plays. It kind of feel like the
Pistons this past season, right, Pistons win over sixty games,
but the playoffs are just a different animal, you know.
And that's where I'm at with the Rays, or maybe
I don't know, like the James Harden Rockets, when a
bunch of games, it's like, all right, come talk to me,

(01:47:05):
come playoff time, though, right until they prove us wrong
that you have to feel that way.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
But uh you, yes, you have to feel that way,
absolutely correct. Think about baseball is that every wager you
lose is the exact same like you get. I think
I lost one yesterday and a team was one for
nine from we weren't a score position. It was the
same way every time. Every time you need a big hit,

(01:47:30):
you get to pop up, you run on third base.
Even the Dodger game last night, if you're in an
air on Arizona, you had two triples. Start to nine thinning,
it's one to one. Now run on third, No outs, Yeah,
did they get him home?

Speaker 7 (01:47:42):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
No line out, pop out, strikeout.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
It's like all right, cool until like it's just it's
a long, long season with baseball, very long.

Speaker 4 (01:47:52):
Well, Crag, you were talking about bad prices just a
second ago. There's no bad, bad price when it comes
to Isaac loewen Kron. The price is always right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
I low.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
What's going on, buddy?

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Get the leadert Oh, thank you very much, Brian, And
we have a fresh NFL news emanating this weekend, starting
with the reports Saturday night that multiple outlets reporting Washington
Commander's five time Pro Bowl left tackle Laramie Tunzel tourist
triceps and practiced yesterday and will miss at least a
significant portion of the regular season. Meanwhile, today the Carolina

(01:48:25):
Panthers have signed free agent quarterback Kyle Trask, with rookie
Haines King dealing with a hamstring injury. In Major League Baseball,
on Saturday night, at the Los Angeles Dodgers broke their
seven game losing streak with a two to one victory
at Arizona in ten innings. Tampa Bay Rays became the
first in the American League to seventy wins. They wanted
Seattle three to two. The Chicago White Sox over Cleveland

(01:48:46):
six to three, So the White Sox now lead the
Al Central by three over Cleveland, as well as the
Minnesota Twins. Finally, guys, if you can believe it, we
now have a second International soccer dash board disaster update.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
Take it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Take it, this time to the Netherlands and yesterday's four
to one victory by the Deventor go Ahead Eagles over
Willem II. By the way, in this case, Willem was
literally defoe, but anyway, during the pre match festivities, a
local skydiver parachuted into the stadium instead of landing around midfield. However,

(01:49:27):
he sailed all the way down the field and wiped
out directly into the dasherboards behind the goal. Fortunately the
gentleman was not hurt. But here's how it sounded on
the Dutch telecast. Listen, yeah, am, some things need no translation.

Speaker 4 (01:49:50):
Back to you guys there you go absolutely. By the way,
what college football game was it? Virginia Tech?

Speaker 2 (01:49:56):
Where the guy was like scoreboard, Yes, spring game.

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
Oh, he's just dangling on the scoreboard. He was all right,
but great.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
And what was crazy is when I saw it happen,
I'm like, okay, you know, if he falls, if he
falls off the scoreboard, he just goes into the top
row of the stands, everything's fine. But because of the
depth perception at their stadium, I learned that the scoreboard
is actually across a narrow street from the top row
of the stands. So if that guy had not been

(01:50:27):
suspended by his parachute, he'd been looking at an additional
like one hundred foot fall.

Speaker 4 (01:50:32):
Wow, that's crazy. I'll never forget as a kid. It's
a random memory, but you jogged my memory here.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
I low.

Speaker 4 (01:50:39):
I went to a notre Dame Navy game. I was
a kid and Navy maybe like kicked a field goal
or something I'll never forget. On the like the perimeter
of the stadium was before the additions or it is
like old Notre Dame stadiums holds like fifty nine thousand
and change. They were doing pushups on the ledge of
the like the very outer rim of the stadium. I'm

(01:51:02):
looking at him, like they're doing push ups on the ledge?
What are they doing? Hardcore?

Speaker 6 (01:51:07):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:51:07):
But uh, yeah, random memory. Uh let me get to
one of the funnier stories of the week. So this
is Perdue's new athletic director. His name is Tommy mcclennan.
Tommy mcclennand, and uh, he had some words. You know,
normally you talk a little bit of trash. This is
what Kurt Signette did. Remember when he took over as
coach of IU football. He's calling out his rivals and

(01:51:29):
all that kind of what you do with the athletic director.
Tried it, it didn't work out. Here's what he had
to say.

Speaker 6 (01:51:34):
Initially, every recruit, every current student athlete will hear this
message repeatedly. We are here to win championships. If you
don't want to win championships, go to Indiana.

Speaker 4 (01:51:46):
So that was met with fury like this what was
the old line from pulp fiction? Furious anger? Right, Like,
that's what it was met with, Like, Indiana just won
a college football national champ what are you talking about?
So the very next day, Tommy McClendon, he goes on
the Pat McAfee show, and to his credit, I think

(01:52:07):
he you know, he's like, my bad, sorry about that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:09):
I'm having a great day yesterday, given our vision, share
what we're going to do here at Purdue, how we're
going to set the standard and raise the bar for
what's possible. And you know, I made an offhand, unscripted
comment about an in state rival that didn't land well okay,
and I knowing the second and left my mouth. But listen,
I play golf. I'm sure you play golf, hey, every

(01:52:30):
nine and then you line it up on the first
t and you're really excited about that round and not
put it right into the water. Okay, So hey, Pat,
I got to put it back to it, right back
up and go I got eighteen more holes to play.

Speaker 5 (01:52:42):
So there you to own it. You have to own
that because that was bad. That sometimes I think you
have to stand the script. Man, stand on the script,
you read your prepared speech, you don't add lib and
and yet you move on. Because Indiana most definitely won
the football championship last season, so I know where I
know where, and they that crack. That's a bad way

(01:53:06):
to start.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Yeah, you guys are absolutely right. This one doesn't make
make sense considering indianam one last season. They're like fifth
or six favorite to win this year like nine to one,
produce like a million to one. So I'm not truly
sure what this ad was thinking with these comments. By
the way, guys, how great is it that we get
NCAA football action in just twenty days?

Speaker 5 (01:53:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
Oh there you go?

Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
Week zero?

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
Nic Yeah, week zero, very much?

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
Looking USC team total over? There you go?

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Yah? Did we talk about on the show how Jeff
at the end of his craps run he had like
sixteen dollars left?

Speaker 5 (01:53:40):
Oh yeah, well okay, so I went. I went to
to Naked City, which I had to tell my wife
was actually Wings, not a not a gentleman gentleman's club there.
And I get back to Circa and I love playing
table games, but like, I just don't have much luck
on it right now. So I lost like two hundred
bucks in seven minutes on the craps table. One hundred

(01:54:00):
and thirty nine dollars left, okay, and I want to
have a physical like ticket that I bought an Organ
to win the championship. This way, it'll get me to
come back to Vegas next year if they win all
of time. So I go to the kiosk. It's like
nine o'clock at night. I could have gone to the
book whatever. Went to the kiosk and circas great. I
had nothing wrong with Circle whatsoever. It's a good place
to be. And I put the one hundred and thirty

(01:54:21):
nine dollars in there and I put organ. I don't know,
I don't have the ticket on me, seven fifty eight
to one whatever it was, and they're like max wager,
max amount to win one thousand dollars. My ticket was
like to win I don't know, ten to fifty something
like that. So I had to adjust my wager to

(01:54:42):
buy a dollar fifty to get under one thousand dollars.
So they have one dollar fifty left.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:54:48):
I tried to do a cross sport. Come on, I
tried to do a cross sport parlay, like Spurs Oregon,
like oilers and like something else. It in me can't
make that wager, Oh my god. So I just have
a ticket of like I didn't I have a voucher
for one to fifty in my pocket dollar fifty. I
mean I didn't want to go to the cage and

(01:55:09):
get a dollar fifty, right, So I just have a
just have like this.

Speaker 4 (01:55:13):
I think it's it's like time sensitive though, crrack right,
it's only is it for Yeah, it's only days or something.

Speaker 5 (01:55:20):
Well, yeah, you win circa you get one to fifty
dollars fifty for me, And I was tired. I was
ready for bet at a flight at five o'clock in
the morning. I just was like, what I guess at
the window they probably limit me, right, Cracker.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
The window, you would have got the bet. And it's
it's all the companies have Kiosk limits here and real low.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
So by the way, real fast, before we run and
get the picks here, we want to say a special
thanks to bet MGM. So our sponsorship, which has been
going strong for four years, it comes to an end
today with BETMGM, but they have been a tremendous partner
the first two years it was count down to kickoff
just during the football season. To their credit, they extended

(01:55:58):
it for two years year round, and so it's been
four years. Been tremendous. These things happen. The thing I
say is like stadiums get renamed. So our sponsorship deal
just ended today. Countdown will continue, we'll press on, but
we just wanted to send a special thanks to bet MGM.
They've been a tremendous partner. Have nothing but good things
to say about them. Jeff, you you'd want to add, like,

(01:56:21):
let's get the team totals on the w n B A,
let's let's throw those up there. But the partnership has
been absolutely tremendous and it's been a ton of fun,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
They've been great to us, they really have. It's been
a great partnership with them and Joe talking to Christian,
you know, all those and the menu they offer and
BETMGM is wonderful outside of the WNBA team totals, but
it's been a great partnership with them, and hopefully we
can h you know, continue this on with with someone
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Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
Yeah, no doubt, absolutely, We've got Bill Krachenberger, professional sports handicapper.
Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran, I'm Brian No Coming
up next pick Scalore Crack will have his play of
the day. Jeff and I will add a couple of
picks as well. We'll give you all that good stuff
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(01:57:34):
producer today on a fine Sunday, mister Julian Bitten.

Speaker 5 (01:57:38):
Yes, sir, I am morning Laramie Tunsel all day. It
was a tough porning, but great show. Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:57:44):
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, he has been that's true. He's
he's very upset about Laramie being out, and rightfully so.
Is a commander's fan. Our technical producer extraordinaire that is
mister Chris Perfat.

Speaker 12 (01:57:55):
We're in the dead heat of summer, which also means
the dead heat of horse season for me. Had two
of the three in the whitney and good good time.
We're gonna have the Pacific Classic in two weeks, which
I'll be down for eventually the Jockey Club Gold Cop
Travers in later on, So good time for the ponies,
good time to play, ponies.

Speaker 4 (01:58:14):
Getting after it, very good stuff. Crushing the updates and
crushing life, that is, mister Isaac Loewenkron.

Speaker 2 (01:58:19):
No matter where you are in the world, beware of
those soccer advertising dash your boards.

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
And those trap doors as we've found out today. Yeah,
no doubt. Shout out to our guy Elijah, he was
manning the controls on digital today, does a great job.
Get Fox Sports Radio, follow on x posts our clips
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to our guy Saga. Saga normally on digital and with

(01:58:49):
the bet MGM partnership ending today, we need a new
partner so Saga will be back on board, so we
hope that happens. By the way, top of the Hour,
Dan Byer, Carrie Rowe in less than eight American minutes,
they have got you covered. Keep it locked here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, we got some picks to make.

Speaker 3 (01:59:06):
Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:09):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 4 (01:59:11):
Okay, crack, we start with you. What's something you like, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
I have a plethora of preseason plays for you guys
today that are still available. I'm looking at bet MGM's
lines here, so bet mgm has the Texans pick minus eighteen.
I want to give you guys out on the money line.
I'll go. I'll go money line on a lot of
these things rather than the spread because the points are
so important on these these tight knit type of games.

(01:59:36):
Give you one more on also also money line Buffalo
Bill's minus one thirty five over on BETMGM. There's two plays.
I'm gonna come back with a real strong play that
I already gave out earlier in the year. But I'm
gonna give it out. I want to give it out again.

Speaker 4 (01:59:50):
And double dip perfect Texans right, yes, yep, fills Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
I generally like defensive coaches in the preseason. They their records,
gets spread are good. They care about winning the game.
Offense coaches sometimes do not things have changed now, you
know Crack mentioned the plus one. It's important because teams
there's no there's no overtime anymore, so teams don't they
go for it, right, So I'll just repeat what I

(02:00:18):
got mystics today to win outright, I'm leaning toward taking
the Links to the Wings. Just be nobody good but
the Wings the Links played yesterdays. That's my I might
think an end game in the lengths at some point
and I get a better number on the money line,
I'll go WNBA.

Speaker 4 (02:00:31):
I'll take the Liberty in the first half minus six
and a half. The spread is balloon to minus eleven
and a half. As Jeff said, the Aces are resting
all their players so they can get goofy at the end,
So I'll take the first half line. I think the
Liberty have their way in the first half minus six
and a half. That's what I'll go with. Let's get
the Cracks play of the day. This is the best

(02:00:53):
play of the day, all right, Crack, what is it?

Speaker 3 (02:00:57):
Buddy? All Right? I gave you guys last week a
couple of times on Washington underseason wins bet MGM still
has under seven and a half plus a dollar ten.

Speaker 4 (02:01:06):
Alright, hey, everybody, have a great day. Shout out Bet, MGM,
thank you for four years.

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