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February 1, 2026 121 mins

Brian Noe, Geoff Schwartz, and Bill Krackomberger preview Super Bowl 60 between the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks, breaking down all the major props and betting lines heading into the big game. The guys also dive into the rest of the sports world, sharing their best bets of the week and reacting to their bad beats - and much more! Plus: Parlay Platter, Follow the Money with Christian Cipollini, Prop It Up, Rapid Fire, and Bill’s Play of the Day.

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Sports Better Bill crack Crackenberger.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh what is going on? Welcome in here. Happy Sunday
to you as listen. We power through the first weekend
with no football.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
This is h.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Something I think we all need to join hands and
by like like together we can we can power our
way through this.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Right here.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
It feels like there's a huge loss in our lives.
There's a void right now, but we're powering through. We've
got Jeff, We've got cracked in. Morning to you guys,
everything good in your world?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
I have something that you're used to dealing with Brian.
We got eleven inches of snow yes charlote yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Look at you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And it's like seven degrees right now. And I'm looking
at like at my neighbor's yard. They have like they
have icicles off the side of their house that are
probably three feet long. Like it's like a legitimate or not.
And I drove a little bit last night taking a
friend home from our house. It's it's if you go
a four wheel drive. I have four wheel drive. You're

(01:44):
not going anywhere in the city for days. I don't
think it's what Tuesday gets up to the mid forty
so maybe Tuesday it's light fluffy snow and I can
there were ten inches of snow. Bro I just can
flip it with a with a shovel. It's light fluffy snow.
It's nice to it might clear out pretty fast, but
I I once in a generation snowstorm. I mean, that's
what we had yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
And you guys don't have like equipment, right, the heavy
equipment or anything like buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Buddy there, I didn't see a plow in site yesterday.
And I drove on one of the busiest roads we
went to go visit a friend's house to go sledding.
That's funny. They moved from Sweden back to Charlotte in July.
They thought they were done with this type of weather.
And I know there wasn't a plot to be seen.
There's no My guess is we have some and they're
just gonna wait till they finished snowing to do the roads.

(02:32):
I would imagine, Uh, there was a car in the
middle of the road that's ditched, like a Mercedes that
tried to make a U turn and got caught and
caught on like a median. Didn't realize it was there
because the snow was there. We had big, big pie
ups yesterday on one of the major highways. But uh,
it's it's I never thought i'd see this. Wow, it's crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Foe is in heaven right now.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Your dog is pictures. I love the pictures.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
He's he's living his best life. He's having the most
fun right now.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
He's out there having time.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh yeah. But the funny part is his ball. He
can't find it. It gets buried too deep in the snow.
And when I tell you, you know, I've seen videos.
We have a German shepherd for those who are new here, welcome,
good morning, and he uh. I've seen these videos before
where people post their German shepherds or their dogs in
the cold. They're like if you're cold, they're cold, you know,

(03:25):
like and they're like, no, the dog loves being the cold, right,
And a lot of the dogs with you know, these
type of fur their coats that you see videos of
the snow just like sticks on me and you just
brush the snow off of them. That's literally what happens,
like the snow he just brushes. He's dry, completely dry
after he goes outside the snow. It's unbelievable. I never
see it, but I never experienced it before. With him
having the best time in his life. Dude, he's having

(03:46):
so much fun.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
That's great, that's awesome. Yeah, you took me back where
man going to grade school. There are times in Indiana
where it's their feet of snow and we're like, surely
it's canceled.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Now, no schools go.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And we had family moved to Tennessee and my cousins
there'ld literally be like maybe an inch of snow and
they'd be like canceled, can't but they don't.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
In the South, it's different they don't.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
They don't have snowplows, and they're just out of a
mission for a little bit.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
We just don't invest in salt, like while we invest
in salt. They sand the roads. They put sand on
the roads, and they have like some sort of pickle
brine I think they put on the roads. But like,
you know, we we had a snowstorm last Sunday, and
my daughter was out of public school Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
half day Thursday, half day Friday. Not half day delay Thursday,
delay Friday. I don't I don't think we're going to

(04:36):
school all week.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
Wow, okay, vacation, let's go. I don't get out.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
So but now, because of quote unquote remote learning, they
like counted as school days because they just give them
a packet of work to do and they say, oh
you do, like do your work and accounts and so
I don't have to like take days off of summer
break or something. But I I think it's fun if
this were to disappear by Wednesday, which is supposed to do.
It is supposed to be fifty yeas on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh there you go, So a couple of days, it's fine. No, yeah, okay,
you know what I got a question for you too,
and for everybody listening, because I was doing Countdown to
Kickoff with the Saturday crew yesterday and we got some
reaction and it's like just anti Patriots, you know. It's
just well, you can't really give their defense credit because
they didn't play anybody, and well this and that. It's like,

(05:24):
my question is, did the Patriots deserve any credit for anything?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like, it's just been a steady diet, not just this week,
not next week leading up to the super Bowl, It's
been for months now. It's like, well, they get lucky breaks, well,
the offensive lines that they faced in the playoffs, well,
their cake schedule. It's like, did they deserve credit for anything?
At some point here? Because of my book, they do,
but I don't know. According to a lot of people

(05:48):
out there, they don't deserve any credit for anything they've done.
You can't win sixteen of seventeen and just luck your
way into a Super Bowl appearance.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
It's getting crazy right now.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Good point.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I don't think they lucked their way to a Super Bowl. Parents.
You have to do, you know, you have to beat
the teams in front of you, right, and they've done
a very good job of that, and they deserve credit
for that. I think that going back to Sunday, you know,
a week ago, now, I thought Mike Rabel managed the
end of that game brilliantly. Right, they go up ten
to seven, the weather starts coming in. They realize that

(06:19):
the dever's not going to score, and what we're gonna
do is not mess it up. So we're gonna We're
gonna run the ball and punt, run the ball and punt,
run the ball and punt and they did. They did
a great job. Like I think that his game management
is fantastic. I just think that people look at teams
that have won Super Bowls before and and look at
compare this Patriots team to those teams, and it's really

(06:40):
unfair to do that. This is the two thousand and
one Patriots, not two thousand one Patriots. It's not so
stop doing that and looking at, of course who they play,
and looking at a team like Seattle, who has been
wired to wire the best team in the NFL. Right,
And the one question they had was what I've asked,
which is like, is Donal gonna turn to a pumpkin
and he just has it. He's been fantastic the postseason.

(07:01):
I think we're comparing them to Seattle, which is probably
unfair to New England. No one is a great job
with again, the pieces they have in place, right, the
coaching staff they have. I think that this game there's
as of tough matchup for them, which it means super Bowl.
It's gonna be hard no matter who you play. But
they deserve credit Brian for all of that. And again,

(07:21):
I don't think they're gonna win next Sunday, but they
deserve credit for getting to where they where they're at.
Of course they do.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, you know, of course the Patriots deserve credit
for the season and making it so far. I mean,
winning each week in the NFL is a super accomplishment,
no matter what the circumstances are. Were they fortunate to
have the easiest schedule the season, Yes, did they catch
some breaks on the way through the playoffs, Sure, But
you can't take away what they've done this season. The
turnaround they've made from just four wins just a year ago,

(07:52):
it's just amazing. In the end, doesn't matter, I don't
think how they got here. All that matters is that
they are here and one win from being in Super
Bowl Champs.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, and man, the defense, you know, only giving up
twenty six points in three playoff games, it's pretty good.
And I don't know why it's always looked at from
this critical standpoint, you know what I mean, where it's like, well,
they only gave up two hundred and seven yards to
the Chargers, but they had both of their offensive tackles out.
It's like they had both of their offensive tackles out

(08:23):
for most of the season, right, like, so they may
do when they won games. I was at a game
where they'd beat Philly, you know, like they they had
a decent team. So but the Patriots win and it's
just like, oh, well this, oh well that you know,
they hold the Texans to two hundred and forty one yards,
to only give up twenty six points in three games
is really good. And somehow it's reduced to well, Bo

(08:45):
Knicks wasn't in there. Well, you know, Nico wasn't in there,
the receiver Nico Collins for the Texans. And it's just
one thing after another where it's like, how can we
take credit away from this team? How can we take
all credit away from this team? And I just think
it goes too far My favorite stat of the whole
season is the Patriots schedule has been the easiest schedule

(09:06):
since the ninety nine Rams.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
And it's like, what did the ninety nine Rams do?

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Well?

Speaker 6 (09:10):
They want a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Oh well, then we shouldn't just eliminate the Patriots from
Super Bowl contention, right, Like, I know this isn't the
greatest show on turf, the Patriots, but they weren't facing
the greatest show on turf, right the Rams meet the
Titans barely in the Super Bowl, Like the Patriots right
now aren't facing the greatest show on turf and the Seahawks.
So I don't know why it like they're four and

(09:32):
a half point dogs. To talk, you would think they're
like dogs by fourteen plus.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
It's a four and a half point spread. It's crazy
to me.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I think a lot of it too comes down to
they're not an overly talented football team. Like think about okay,
let's talk about well quarterback, they're very good, but Drake
may is young and hasn't played got well in the postseason. Right,
that's part of the discussion. Right, running back, I don't know,
they're they're fine. I mean, right, they're fine. Running back

(10:02):
not like an overly great room At the moment. Stevenson
does a good job. But where you rank him fifteenth
best running back in NFL, you.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
Would say solid, not special, Right, that's kind of the ross.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
The offensive line is below average. It's not good offensive line.
The wide receivers yet digs and like like. But even
Diggs is not a one a anymore, right.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Right, no doubt he's like one digs and what the
innocent criminals whatever?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Is?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
The tight ends not great? Now. Defensive tackles really good, right,
Christians office is really good, yes, and the rest defense
is fine. I mean again, like they're not. It's not
when you talk about the nine nine rams. You have
Hall of Fame left tackle, Hall of Fame running back,
Hall of Fame quarterback too, hall of Fame wide receivers,
like you have those pieces in place. That that's I
think part of the reason why it's difficult for a

(10:53):
lot of people is because it's not an overly talent
you can make. The kids for Seattle quint honestly, now
they have jsn obviously and their running backs a little
bit better than the Sharbonnay's out. Donald has not been
as good as drake Man I don't think like you know.
I think Drake May is better, but Donald's playing well
right now defensively. They have a few more stars on Seattle,
but it's sort of the the same case you made

(11:14):
for Seattle as well. But I think part of it
is that New England is not a team that we've
historically seen one a ton of Super Bowls, right, Most
teams that win Super Bowls tend to have these like
even if they're young, like like the one Patriots. I mean,
Tom Brady was young but obviously got to where he's
at now. That I think is part of the psyche
of this game. It's like New England, where are the

(11:36):
big matchups that you can exploit Seattle And where are
the big one on ones you can win where this
and that and it's more just a collective as a team.
They're coach really well, they play well, they play solid football.
Those are all the reasons why I think we're discounting
New England. And I bet on Seattle. I took him
on his three and a half immediately, so I'm all
on Seattle in this game. But I understand how the

(11:56):
Patriot can make this game tough. I think that's why
the Patriot are looked at like the like nine nine Rams.
They don't have those Hall of Fame guys in the
roster right now.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Yeah, everyone, And I'm just gonna let you guys know
everyone out here in the desert. I'm just still trying
to find one person I know that likes the Patriots.
There was one, but he left town. His name is Brian. No,
that's the only one. There's nobody left there. There's everyone
is like everyone I speak to is on Seattle. Uh.

(12:27):
There is one Jinxy Jonah that has ruined many people
with his selections. He is on the Patriots too, and
he is uh yeah, he he can't pick a winner.
He's from Uh, I'll just say he's from he's from
back home in the in the city. Uh. And and
he's just one of those guys like Eddy Mush He's

(12:47):
just terrible. But he's the only guy I know that
picked the Patriots. But again, he's not in Las Vegas.
So yeah, everyone, these sports books here are all uh
even saying everyone's gonna Usually it's money line on the
money line. Uh here is people betting the underdog. So
historically the money line in Las Vegas betting the favorite

(13:09):
is the best money line you're gonna see anywhere in
the world. But that hasn't happened right now, so this
is can be a different set of circumstances here. Uh,
Like I said, it's everyone's on Seattle. It seems like.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Here you gotta lean, crack and what do you like?

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Listen, I lean to the dog with the points, but
it's a lean. I'll have a lot more money on well.
To be real, blunt, I didn't even put anything on it.
I'll just you know, you know my game. My game
is props, and I'm gonna have a a couple of
fresh ones for you guys today.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Oh I can't, Oh I can't.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I might have been saving up all week for it,
and I have my only one.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
My goal this super Bowl, though, crack is. I got
a little overextended last year on props for Super Bowl,
and like I got the point where I just there's
just no way mathematically I'd make money. So I'm I'm like,
do my best this year to like I'm I'm playing
yours of course, and then I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Keep keep in mind if we were last year.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah you you wan, I'm talking about myself. I'm talking
about like oh like like I I got a little overextended,
too many, too many props, And so this year I've
only there's one I love. I haven't made a bet
on it yet. We'll talk about it today, but I'm
trying my best to keep my menu much smaller than usual.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like it, gotcha all right, not not quite cheesecake
factory in terms of you know, the rolodecks of bets
this time, no.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Not not not And I think I don't part of
a game like this. This is the way I think
about it, right. My wagers tend to be very correlated.
And last year I didn't see the Eagles blowing out
the Chiefs right right, and like shot, I'm shot now.
I got lucky late. Mahomes ended up throwing for a
bunch of yards late and and the Chiefs scored an

(14:53):
points like I got. I got lucky in that aspect.
I could hit a couple of props late. But I
bet the game thinking about how I viewed the game
script going. And I was absolutely wrong about the game.
And this year I do like Seattle. I bet on Seattle,
like I said, but I don't have a great sense
of like how the game is gonna go. I have
a final score in my head. I sort of like

(15:15):
I'm leaning toward a bunch of unders. I want again,
what I really love that I haven't. I haven't bet
on the X. I think it's gonna go up and
up and up. But so that's why I'm trying to
like not maybe be as forcefull. And this is the
way the game's gonna go. I'm gonna bet the game
this way because that really cost me last season.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, no, that makes sense, totally fair. I'm excited to
hear what you guys got.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Oh I can't wait. Oh oh, guys. Some women's college
basketball lines just dropped. I've been waiting all morning for this.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
One of them.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
One of them might make one of them might make
a segment today. Okay, Yet one of them is twenty
eight and a half though, so I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Oh man, that's small potatoes. You know what was it
earlier this week? Fifty nine and a half?

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, they won fifty. Number one Yukon is hosting tennis today. Okay,
Tennessee's ranked fifteenth Yukon has won. The number is twenty
six and a half.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
The one team playing the fifteenth team in the country. Unbelievable,
and they're gonna win by thirty. They're going to They're gonna,
they're gonna that's insane number, dude.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
How about that is, man, I'm telling you that the
difference between the halves and the have knots in women's
college tuops, it's it's crazy, it's remarkable.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
The other day the number was fifty nine and a
half Connecticut hosting Xavier. Okay, man, it was a five
point game at the end of the first quarter. It
was twenty two to seventeen. Yukon won by fifty eight points.
So they outscored them in the final three quarters by
fifty three points. Wow, in ten minute quarters.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
You like these in game lines?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Did you pay? I don't think what it was after the.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
First I do it. I do in game like, for example,
like this game today, twenty six and a half, if
it's tied the end of the first quarter, oh, you're
it'll go down to like seventeen and a half. And
I'm like, oh, I'm in oh way.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, oh okay, all right, very nice, all right, we'll
get to the Super Bowl props as well. Very excited
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all right. So Bill Belichick is not a first ballot
Hall of Famer, which is an actual sentence.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
It blows my mind.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
And so this week there's been a lot made about that,
and we've slowly gotten some of the arguments from the
voters who did not vote for Bill Belichick, and it's
bad logic after bad logic. Some of it is, well,
there are a couple of guys that will be no
longer on the ballot if we don't vote for them,

(19:16):
and it's like.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Well, then tough, you don't get in.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, you know, if Bill Belichick has the best resume
of these guys on the ballot and you don't vote
for him, you're doing a disservice to the Hall of
Fame with your vote. Like, I just don't understand this
logic of, well, these lesser guys they will no longer
be on the ballot.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Well, it's like, well, then tough for them. I don't
know what to tell.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You or them, but if they're less deserving, then you
should not be voting for them. What are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (19:47):
So I've heard this argument that comes to Hall of
Fame like either you're a Hall of Fame or you're not, right,
and there should be sort of like one vote you
either get in or you don't. And I've sort of
been against that idea. I do think that you know,
in a given year, there might be guys more deserving, right,
And I do think that it makes sense to just
have a formula where you have Hall of Famers every year, right,

(20:09):
Because if you do the idea of like one vote
one time, you're in the year years you have no
Hall of Famers, right, probably, Brian, I think that's probably
not good for the sport and for you know, a
hall of fame. But any process that makes sure Bill
Belichick's not a Hall of Famer, it's probably a bad process, right,
And that that leads me to believe they need to

(20:32):
change the way they do this because think about the
culturable Hall of Fame. Mike Leach was not going to
be in the collegeable Hall of Fame. The threshold for
coaches was sixty percent win percentage and Mike Leach unfortunately
passed away with a fifty nine point eight percent win percentage,

(20:53):
so he was not going to be a colleturable Hall
of Famer. There is no way to tell a story
of collegtable about Mike Leach's absolutely a cultural Hall of Famer,
not just for what he did on the field, but
his coaching web across the sport permeates itself in fifty
percent of college offenses. Right, it's you know, and of
course how Mummy's part of that, but like it's Mike Leach,

(21:14):
the modern sort of air raid air raid guy, and
they changed their rules. They're like you're in, you know,
like the so for for the Belichick thing. You know,
I read people say, well, I voted for L. C. Greenwood,
I would have voted for this guy. K Anderson is
not a Hall of Famer over over Bill Belichick. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. And so I know that that the idea

(21:35):
is he'll get in next year. Totally get it. But this,
to me, crack felt like a very you know, this,
this whole process felt like a very unfortunate error by
the Hall of Fame who didn't really need this publicity
in this in this light. And now, no matter what,

(21:56):
we're going to hear for the rest of the jener forever,
Brian that Bill Belichick is not in the Hall of
Fame on his first ballot. It just feeling a very
unforced error for Hall of Fame, and it's unfortunately. I
think they had to. It didn't have to be this way.
So I do wonder if things change like the like
the way they the way they get to the balloting

(22:18):
for the non players, right the players have the process,
I think that's fine. You know, you went down to
fifteen and five and you have a Hall of Fame,
the coaching contributor that's it's five typically and you vote
for three of the five. And I just think that
the process has to work out where Belichick makes it

(22:38):
the first time, Brian and to be fair, so it
was Robert Kraft. They both should make the first time. Yeah,
And I just think that it's it feels like it
it has to change. And I look, I get people
are like, oh, spy game and this and that. You
know what's been crazy to see is Jimmy Johnson but

(23:00):
tweet saying, hey, yeah, we all kind of did spy gates.
H we all did it.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
That's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Jeff is like for anybody who makes spygate out to
be I don't know, like the equivalent of peds in baseball.
There's some people that make spygate out to be just
the ultimate advantage. And do you think that the NFL
when spygate was first a thing, the NFL was alerted
about it and they put out a memo like, Yo,

(23:27):
we know you're doing this, stop doing it. Do you
think that's all it would have been if this was
the ultimate advantage? There's no way they would have been
that nonchalant, like, hey, listen, we know you're going sixty
five and a fifty five mile per hour zone. Just
cut it. Out, you're pushing the line a little bit.
We're gonna have to give you a ticket if you
keep doing this, Like they wouldn't have done that. Like

(23:51):
if you're breaking the sound barrier, you're going one hundred
in a fifty five mile per hour zone, they're pulling
you over immediately and hammering you with the punishment. And
the NFL never did that. They were like, yo, just
stop doing that. And the Patriots were dumb enough to
continue doing it.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
But that's the thing, it never was this ultimate advantage
that people make it out to be.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
It never was that.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's just that the Patriots were stupid enough to continue
doing it. And because they've been so crazy successful, dumb
people think, well, that's why they were so successful. It
was the cheating. It's that's not the case. It never was.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
And even Jimmy Johnson's tweet and kind of tweets drum,
he said, like we just weren't just good at them
at at it, like that's it, and that's the advantage
that New England had. They were the best at using
the information they could find and making the best of it,
where other teams just aren't as good. They just New
England has always been better at that, So it's always
better at that anywhere else. And that's a Belichick Like

(24:49):
give Belichick credit for finding it. Maybe it's that Ernie
Adams guy, right, like someone in the building was able
to take the information they they got and use it
better than anyone else was. You know, you know when
we played doing in twenty and fifteen, as an offensive line,
we prepared. You prepare obviously to face you know, certain defenses, right,
and most teams have one base defense that they that

(25:11):
they play and New England kind of rotated depending on
the game. That's what New England's always done best, as
they were able to just meld and mold and adapt
their game plan to what they were facing. And so, Brian,
we prepared for three defensive fronts. Okay, we had them
listed like they're gonna run this one probably, this is
the second one, they're gonna run the third, like this
third front they're gonna run. Last. We don't do enough

(25:33):
offensively for that front to really make sense. Guess what
they did the entire game the third one. Yeah, the
one we were like, why would they there's no reason
to do this to us, Like what we don't really
run the offense that where they would use it. No, no,
that's what they did to us. We still scored a
bunch of points because we were decent, but like, that's
what they did better anyone else. And to Deny Belichick,

(25:56):
you know his role in this because even know whatever
the reason you people you around, but Elsie Greenwood and
cans no, no, come on.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
Man, it's bad my little two cents here. Sorry, guys
had to reboot audio end video. Yeah, Belichick, I you know,
did he deserves to get first ballot? I mean probably
I understand why he did, yes, of course. Yeah. I
mean Bill has never been a big media guy and

(26:24):
was never too friendly with media and his whole coaching career.
His interviews and press conferences have always been shortened to
the point, and he's never really shown much maybe even
you could say, I'll say, yeah, respect to the media.
So remember the media is who voched for the Hall
of Fame. So I'm sure Bill will be in next
year and no one will really care he had to
wait an extra year. By next year, maybe his girlfriend

(26:46):
will be old enough to have a drink and the
Hall of Fame induction ceremony or you know whatever. Uh yeah,
So I just kind of have a little fun with it,
little spin when I think the media is I think
people in general. Are you upset about that too? And
that could be into the you know that that definitely
probably plays a part here and it probably shouldn't, but
it probably does.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
So well, hey, you might be right about that crack.
I hope that's not the case, because for any voter,
you got to leave that at the door man about
how they treated you. It's about what their resume was,
That's it. And I mean, I just it's just such
broken logic where a lot of these voters are like, well,
you know, I thought other people would vote for him.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (27:26):
You can't think like that.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Like imagine if you did that with every award where
it's like, well, you know, I didn't vote for Drake
May or whatever because you know, I thought someone else
would vote for Drake May. It's like vote for who
you think is the MVP, vote who you think should
be in the Hall of Fame. Not well, I thought
the other guys would kind of pick up the slack
for me going in a different direction. It's like, what

(27:48):
are you thinking right now? And the last thing I'll
add is I feel bad for the next head coach
that gets in on the first ballot, because you know
immediately it's gonna be like, well, this guy got in.
He has one ring and Belichick didn't get it. You
know what I mean that you're gonna be greatly compared
to Belichick. It's just it stinks, man, It's just bad.
Should be a first ballot guy, and it's stupid that

(28:10):
he's not. It's not stupid that we have Isaac Lohenkron
on the show today. Huh, that is very smart. I
Loo is with us and he's got the latest. What
is going on?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Bud?

Speaker 8 (28:22):
Good morning fellas, and we'll start with some history made
in tennis because of the Australian Open final. Carlos al
Karaz had championship point against Novak Djokovic in the fourth set.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
One of the backhand of el Karaz Djokovic big a boy,
and it's long.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
And it's a destiny fulfilled Pakanos al Karaz sixteen six green.
He has completed a career Grand Slam.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
At twenty two years old. Al Karaz is the youngest
in men's tennis history to complete the career Grand Slam.
He's twenty two years old. In his career prize money
only sixty million dollars. Makes me wish I had worked
on my backhand anyway. In the NBA, the Cleveland Cavaliers
are acquiring Dennis Shrewder and Keon Ellis from the Sacramento

(29:09):
Kings for DeAndre Hunter and a three team deal in
which the Chicago Bulls will acquire Dario Sharich from Sacramento
as well as two second round picks. In the NFL,
the Las Vegas Raiders had their second interview with Seattle
Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak for their head coaching job. Finally, guys,
as we speak, the AFC champion New England Patriots are

(29:31):
holding a Super Bowl sendoff rally at Gillette Stadium. Let's
listen in a special live performance by the Dropkick Murphy's
performing their hit song I'm Shipping Up to Boston. Only
in this case, they changed the lyrics for the performance
right now to shipping off to CALLI for Super Bowl sixty. Again.

(30:03):
That going on. As we speak at Jillette Stadiums, the
Patriots get ready to travel to Cali for Super Bowl sixty.
I just found out that the Dropkick Murphy's named for
a one time professional wrestler in the New England area.
John Dropkick Murphy. Back to you guys.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
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(30:42):
saw a headline and I had to read the story
real fast. We wanted to share it with you guys.
So former Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson he's moving on like
he's he's entering the NFL Draft, and he added that
it would quote unquote tarnish my legacy to stay in
college and play for another school. And I saw that
and I'm like, wait, what.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
It like?

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Part of this is cool? He didn't want to play
for another school.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
I guess he had offers reportedly from Miami your ducks
Jeff also Tennessee, and he's all about Alabama, which is cool.
He didn't didn't want to go and play for another team.
I think that's awesome. But this quote about tarnishing my
legacy he started one season at Alabama. Here's the thing,
very few athletes in sports actually have legacies, you know

(31:27):
what I mean. You just hear that word and a
lot of players think they're going to have a leg
You're not gonna have a legacy at all, Like you
played at Alabama, you know what I mean, Like, there's
no legacy there. It's only for the greats. I think
it's very limited to just a handful of the greatest
of the greats have true legacies.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
You agree with that, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
The fact is is that clearly the market he thought
was going to be there for him to be a
starter somewhere and was not going to be there, right
And look, everyone loves to use Orgon as the book
want Oregon. Ty Simpson was like their fourth option, Like
he was not a guy. They signed Riola and then
more went back, so it wasn't even you know. I

(32:05):
think that's part of it is that Simpson was holding
out hope somebody would be like, hey, like you're you're in,
You're in, and and just never happened, right, and it
was never anyone who wanted his services. So the thing
about legacy, he didn't they didn't win anything. What legacy
would he have? First of all? Right, right, Second of all,

(32:26):
I do think that there is a part of the
portal that's not talked about in my opinion enough, is
when you are at a school for four years and
you transfer somewhere else, you kind of you your legacy
at that school does kind of die, though, Brian, Like,
for example, sure Orgon had a running back, you know,

(32:47):
Travis Dye, who was like a fan favorite, right, and
he goes to USC out of all places, plays half
a season, gets hurt like he can never come back
to Orgon, Like he's not he like that. That part
of it, I understand, where like you spent four years
at a place Simpson's been there forever. He transfers, he's

(33:08):
no longer an Alabama Crimson. He's not going to an
alumni events, he's not getting called back to speak. So
from that perspective, I I get it. And that's not
talking about enough. To me, that's not talking about enough.
When you transfer whatever you did elsewhere the other school,
the legacy is is no more and you can't come back.

(33:28):
You're not doing events like you are. You're gone. So
from that point of view, I do get it. But
team wise, I mean a statue for me, we lost
the playoff game, right, Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Yeah, this is a tough generation. I do think it's
someone amble admirable for him to pass up transferring to
another school and making millions in NIL on another team.
But you know, you guys said, like, what legacy has
he really created for Alabama? They didn't win a national championship. Uh,
they didn't even win the as he Seek Conference with him.

(34:00):
So I'm also I'm really not sure about him even
in the NFL. I see he's being projected. I just
seen a story like late first round, early second round,
so I'm saying he canna end up on like the Jets.
There was a story. Of course, I'm reading the New
York story, So I don't know, dude, from what I
seen that, do you guys think he has what it
takes to be I'll use the word a star in

(34:22):
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
No, I don't.

Speaker 5 (34:24):
Like.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That's the weird thing with ty Simpson. If you just
look at him as an NFL prospect, he was very accurate.
You start with that that's a big deal. But man,
he was like a poor man's Jared Goff facing pressure.
When you got pressure on him, completely different quarterback got
flustered all of a sudden. The accuracy isn't as pinpoint,
you know. That's welcome to life in the NFL. Like

(34:46):
you're gonna have to be able to like Trent Dilfers,
they look down the gun barrel and deliver a pass like,
you've got to do that in the NFL. And he
struggled in college to do that. So I'm not high
on the guy going to the NFL.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
No, there's also a lot of data that shows that
playing one year as a starter and going to the
NFL is there's a rulow success rate. Yeah, right, And
that's and that's why he wanted to come back. Is
data is all out there, like miss Trubisky, right, Like
there's there's.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Mark Zanchez Carol sitting next to him, like I think
you should come back for a year.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
It's just like there's just like there's not a long
list of those guys that started one year and had
success in the NFL. So from that perspective, it would
have been very bright for him to come back. But look,
part of it maybe Alabama didn't want him back, which
is certainly possible as well also too, like in a
year where you have one first round quarterback for sure,
right in Mendoza, Simpson might seak up in the first

(35:44):
round because team is desperate for a quarterback. So it
made sense, like financially probably to want to leave now,
even though we all agree like he could have used
one extra year as a starter. But you go out
this year, you're you're a first round pick. Most likely
go out next year. Probably zero chance of that.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Happening, right, yeah, yeah, sure, Well we'll see how it unfolds.
But uh, I don't I don't think legacy. I don't
think Ty Simpson and legacy at Bama. But hey, listen,
he's going to the events for years to come, Jeff,
to your point, right, he didn't play for another school,
so that part of it is cool and we'll see
where it goes. Only fifty passes thrown his first three seasons. Yeah,

(36:25):
on this last season he started a bunch of games
and got a lot of reps and all that, but
it's just one season to Jeff's points, so that's tough.
We've got Bill Krackenberger, professional sports handicapper. Jeff Schwartz, eight
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Speaker 5 (37:55):
You know, of course, I'm gonna start with a prop,
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(38:18):
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Speaker 4 (38:21):
Okay, Okay, I'm gonna play a college basketball game today.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
There.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
I'm gonna take Iowa minus ten and a half at
Oregon for a couple of reasons.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
One, Oregon is utterly atrocious. They're down three their four
leading scorers right now, and they tried for a little
bit of time like to play hard and sort of
like they were close in a couple of games with
their guys out, but they lost to Nebraska by ten. Well,

(38:52):
they lost the Nebraska by thirty five, Michigan ten, Michigan
State sixteen, Washington fifteen, and UCLA O and i by sixteen.
Iowa's off a very close win against usc when they
came from behind the very end. It kind of played
slopping on the West Coast wich typically happens first game
on the West Coast shrip for these big ten schools.
Organs have nothing to take. They're not gonna play hard

(39:12):
at four pm on Sunday against Iowa, who's a much better,
a much better basketball team. So give me Iowa here
to cover the one and a half tonight one and
a half ten and a half.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
To ten ten half tonight. Yes, no, ok, hey, I
get it. Maybe Lake to take a sneak peek at
that under. Also, Jeff, you know I'm looking at you.
Got my mind racing here. The under is like, the
total is very low, it's one thirty two and a half.
The hundred still might be we just.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
I mean, Oregon scored the last again with their with
their guys out fifty seven, fifty seven, fifty two, seventy one,
fifty five.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Take a guess what their team total is said at
fifty five sixty one and a half.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
That feels high.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Feels a little high, doesn't it. Yeah, you's a little high.
I'm gonna go with kyleege hoops as well. I'm gonna
take a team total team total, give me Kansas State
under seventy and a half. They're taking on Iowa State.
Iowa State, as we know, very pesky defensively, force a
lot of turnovers.

Speaker 6 (40:11):
It's just really hard to score on.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
So I've got k State at home at home, which
is a little dicey, But give me under seventy and
a half. I think that the cyclones are will have
enough defensively to to keep them under that that seventy
point threshold. At least seventy one point threshold, how about that.
So let's not have them crack seventy here cyclones and
we can cash this thing crack. I have no idea

(40:35):
for to find your your prop what's it lined at?
What's the minus one set.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Over over ninety seven and a half minus one fifteen
at ped mgm N it's one to fifteen.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Okay, yeah, all right, it's under.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
It's underfield goals made.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Yep, gotcha.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
If you well, if it looks like if you parlayed
these three, I just picked something random and got the
same juice. Right crack yeah, these three are plus six
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better than true odds, if you will, right right there,
all right? Coming up next? Are you a true believer
or a partial believer?

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Speaker 3 (41:15):
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Speaking of a guy who's trying to be legendary, that
would be Sam Donald. And he is obviously the starting
quarterback of the Seahawks. He's in Super Bowl sixty. And

(42:07):
this is one year removed from the Vikings saying no thanks, Sam,
We're good, we don't need you, man. We're gonna ride
this JJ McCarthy train. And now the Vikings have fired
their GM. So we'll get to the Vikings in a second.
But just the first part of this equation is heading
into the Super Bowl. Where do you stand on Sam Donald?

(42:28):
Are you a true believer? Are you a partial believer?
Are you a non believer?

Speaker 5 (42:33):
In?

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Sam Donald? Where do you stand right now on the guy?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Oh? I guess the fine believer first, it's up.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
To you, right, like you know, it's you know commonly
what you think? Like, Okay, let's say true believer. You're
talking like top five, top ten, the guys that you
would have there.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
You include him in that mix.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
No, but I certainly think he has now proven that
he is probably not a pumpkin anymore. Right, last week
was a monumental game, just for him, and I think
the psyche of how we view Sam Donald right, because
you know, all of us I think felt the same way, Brian, Like, yes,
Seattle is really really good. But like I get Matt

(43:16):
Stafford against Sam Donald in a big game, I'll take
Matt Stafford right, right, And Matt s Effick didn't play poorly,
by the way, but Sam Donald was fantastic and Kubiak
their OC called an incredible game like those were also
that Jess and touchdown on the backfield or a line
up and running back. I mean, just like stuff like that,
and we'll get you as were start previewing the game

(43:38):
next week, you know, we'll get to some of these
these coaching stuff, coaching matchups. So from that perspective, I
think Donald silenced me. He silenced a lot of painters
and didn't believe in him, and he silenced I think
all of us. Now again, what does that mean like
long term or how I don't I don't know, Brian,

(44:00):
but I know that in the moment, he has made
me a believer in him, and that I mean, look,
I can't stay picking the Seahawks to win this game
and cover this game and then not believe in Sam Donald, right,
that'd be impossible to do. So I believe in him
as far as he could win this game. And we
talked about this all season long when we came to

(44:20):
Daniel Jones, and maybe more so we should do with Donald.
Like when Goodell gets up there to hand the trophy
to the winner of the Super Bowl, that's gonna be
Sam Donald potentially.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, could be.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, yeah. I'm just looking, guys to make sure if
there was a different guy named Sam Donald that was
on the Jets in Carolina. Uh, yeah, it looks like
the same he started for Carolina twenty twenty one to
tell wow, I just wanted to make sure it was
the same guy that we're talking about. I would probably
say partial believer. I think he's a good, solid NFL quarterback.

(44:54):
He's like thirty and seven the last two years, I mean,
and winning means everything, first starting quarterback in the NFL.
So is he an elite quarterback? I don't know if
he's a top boy. I tell you what, it's hard
to say a guy in the Super Bowl is not
top five for the year. But I don't know if
he's top five. But he's definitely top twenty and probably
top ten conversation. If he wins this next game, boy,

(45:16):
that's for sure. You have to at least like his story.
Though it looked like a draft bust early in his career,
was regulated to a you know, his backup quarterback, and
then he found his way into the starting lineup made
the most of it. It seems like a good guy too,
by the way. He seems like, you know, he's never
really blamed anyone but himself and seems like the kind

(45:38):
of guy everyone wants in their locker room. So I'm
rooting from as a person. I'm rooting for him as
a even for this team. Good. If he wins, great.
If the other side wins, great, great may and the
company over there. But so I guess partial believer at
this point. I really was looking at his stats, though,
and you just wonder what went on even remember him

(46:01):
as a Carolina starter? How about that? I just don't.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
I don't know. This is just a great example of
situation being more important than anything else. Forever. When quarterbacks
got drafted, we just assume they'd be great no matter
where they went. And I think there are some talents that,
like would Mahomes be as good if he wasn't in
Kansas City, probably not, but he's talented enough. Josh Allen.
I mean, you know, Lamar, Joe Biden. They're probably good everywhere,

(46:30):
right everywhere, But situation is so important when it comes
I love that, Like I think this is sort of
I don't love everything about sort of analytics, but I
think that like the smarter people that start they sort
of cover football, now they're smarter in the way they
think about the game. And that's one thing that's changed
is situa. We talk about situation way more now, where

(46:50):
I think like the old school NFL people are like,
You're like, these guys are like, yeah, it actually matters
who you're with, right and who you're in who's your coach,
And we just didn't think that way. Like even when
I got that fought, there wasn't a thought about that.
There was no thought about that. Like when I was
a free agent, I thought it's a lot with the Giants,
I was not a fit for anything they did offensively.

(47:11):
I don't know why they signed me. I made no
sense for what I did for what they wanted in
from from offensive alignment. I made no sense in what
I was able to do. My skill set and what
they wanted from their offense. I feel like now teams
don't make those decisions anymore based off of that, Like
the Giants needed to guard the best guard available Jeff Schwartz,
he's in now, teams are like, does he really feel

(47:32):
what we do? Does he like does he make a
lot of sense for us? I think that's what Donold like.
He just the fit wasn't great where he was at.
The coaching was terrible. He goes to a spot where
you don't do everything because they because they're good on defense, right,
so he doesn't have to do everything for them. They
run the offense. Liven's gotten better. Jsn is there, Kubik does.
All these things have worked out for him, and he's
by the way, he is supremely talented. Like when you

(47:54):
watched him in college, you saw the potential for a
lot of this. It just never panned out, and now
it is panning out. Well.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
That's the thing too, is look at two quarterbacks that
were teammates in Carolina. It was Baker Mayfield and it
was Sam Donald. Yes, and both of them didn't do
anything there, you know, and they go to much better situations.
You look at Baker, look at what he's surrounded by.
All of a sudden, you can throw to Mike Evans
and Chris Godwin and you've got pieces around you, and
all of a sudden his numbers look way better. The

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same thing with Sam Donald last season in Minnesota. You
match him up with the head coach who knows what's
going on in Kevin O'Connell, got Justin Jefferson to throw too.
You can throw it out to TJ. Hockinson like all
of a sudden, you're cooking with grease. Yeah, and now
with Seattle to your point, Jeff Jackson Smith and jigbu
is a premier wide receiver. So it does look a
lot different. And I've always said this with quarterbacks, I

(48:44):
think the true, you know, difference makers, the upper echelon guys.
Look at who Josh Allen has, look critically at what
he has around him, and it's like he's got, you know,
Dalton Kin kid and a bunch of number two and
number three receivers and he makes it work. Man, He
makes that thing hum because he is a true difference maker.
A guy like Sam Darnold, even Baker Mayfield going to

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that Bill's offense, it's not hum in the same way
because they're not true difference makers to that same level.
It's not to say they're bums, but they're not difference
makers to the same level. So that's why you got
to be surrounded by more stuff competent coaching. It matters,
the fit absolutely matters with the guys who are just
just below like the true difference makers. And I think
that's where Baker and Sam Darnold are.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I agree with you there, and look again, he's gonna
heal raise a lot of a lot of us that
have said things for a while about Darnald, But I
want to make I want to make this point here.
So the Minnesota you mentioned, the Vikings, Jim was fired, Yep,
and there's many reasons for that. Part of it was
they just had very bad drafts for years and.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Years, right, that's right.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Yeah, I want to go back to the decision about
Sam Darnold. I'm sure we could pull up our audio
Brian from a year ago.

Speaker 5 (49:54):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Yeah, Revision's history in the NFL is dumb, and it's
dumb for this reason. So the Vikings signed Donald to
be a bridge quarterback, right, he was going to bridge
to JJ McCarthy McCarthy gets hurt in the preseason. There's
no bridge happening. Sam Donald plays, he plays well, he's
on a one year contract. They get to the most

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to the two important games of the season. He plays
very bad in those two important games. Why would they
bring him back? Franchise tag? Why would you spend a
forty million dollar tag on a guy who just blew
the two most important games reseason and you have McCarthy
waiting to play. Now people will say, well, you know
Jed and McCarthy, okay, but you drafted him eleven overall.

(50:38):
You thought he was gonna be good, right, And so
of course they went with McCarthy, And in that moment
we all said go with McCarthy, like, get rid of Donald,
you're not playing it. So the revisions are in that
I think is wrong. Now, if you want to blame
the GM for the lack of Porter and the fact
that McCarthy feels like he's not very good, fine, those
are totally fair to blame him for that. But the
Donald McCarthy thing just unlucky the way it worked out

(51:01):
for Minnesota. But it's not because like they make the
right decision in the moment to do that.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
No fair.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
That's my take on that.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
And even my guys, as you guys know, we were
all over Minnesota this season, we were all over McCarthy
even we thought this was going to be a good
year for him, and we thought it was a good
move at the time. No one has seen Donald going
to the Super Bowl, of course, so yeah, good, very
good points, very good.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And I think that's it's interesting when you tie it
back to the Minnesota thing. If you just look at
Sam Donald here and now all three of us have
said we're partial believers in Sam Donald, right, Like we're
not true believers.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
He's had a very good year.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
He just diced up the Rams, but their secondary is
the weakest part of their entire team. And so like,
I don't want to be the guy that withholds props,
you know, I want to give you the props that
you deserve, and I think we've given Sam Donald is
just due for getting to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 (52:00):
But you shouldn't go above and beyond.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I can't just say, to Jeff's point, Week eighteen last season,
horrible against the Lions, playoff game against the Rams even worse.
Somehow took nine sacks in that game. The two most
important games. He stunk it up, and so I don't
just have amnesia. I can't just forget about that, wipe
it from the record, you know, as if it didn't happen.
Because he's had a good year in Seattle and because

(52:23):
he was brilliant last week against the Rams, he's had
a very good season, but we're not true believers, like, oh,
this guy, he's arrived, he's legit. He's the guy for
the next whatever five seven years in Seattle. It's like
you're cautiously optimistic that you're getting the best version of
Sam Donald, but you know, like the check engine light

(52:44):
could come on at any time here, that's where we're at.
So now when you tie that to Minnesota, it's just
funny how these people are like.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Oh, the Vikings, they're idiots.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
They okay, And you're still not a true believer in
Sam Darnold, So like, how stupid were they?

Speaker 6 (52:59):
It hasn't worked out for a year.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
It's been very bad for them, and we'll see what
they have in JJ McCarthy going forward. He's got a
lot of work to do. But JJ playing so badly
that makes the situation look way worse.

Speaker 4 (53:11):
I don't think McCarthy is long for that look new
GM which they want to hire thanks after the draft.
So I want to explain that very quickly. Okay, yeah, no, no, no,
there's a reason for it. I'll explain it. Okay. So
the cycle for the scouting department goes May to May, right,

(53:34):
so the draft ends and then the new cycle for
the scouting department. They're a different calendar in the rest
of the NFL is because they have to start obviously
in May for the next year, and they do so
there's a whole group of like under the GM that's
been doing all the scouting. You don't just fire everyone
and right now they get So that's why, Brian, there's

(53:57):
no need to really if you have a director play
a personnel which I have, he can draft for you
guys like you don't have to have the GM there
to do it. I think you just wait till after
the draft is over because everyone's already put the work in.
To bring a new general manager in like now, you
would almost undo all the work you've been doing for
months and months and months. That's why I think they're
not hiring a GM right now is it's pretty tough

(54:19):
to do it at this moment, especially if you like
the people you have underneath your current GM. That makes
a little bit of sense. I get that part of it.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I mean I get it. But they're the only ones.
They're the only ones to not hire a GM. And
it's not like all these other teams, Atlanta whoever. It's
not like they did it three months ago hiring their
new GM. They did it a week or two ago,
you know. And the Viking is gonna be the only
ones without a new GM.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Well. The thing about, by the way, the thing about
the falconso is Matt Ryan's a GM, Like they hired
a like a Quoe quote GM. But that's not right, right,
Matt Ryan he's their GM, so that there's a little
different compared to other situations. Like Ryan is is their GM.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
No doubt, but he hasn't been there since last May
you know what I'm saying. Right, So that's the only
thing is the Vikings, they're the only ones, like they're
going to have this, uh, their their player personnel guy,
he's in place, and then they're going to hire a
GM after the draft. So I mean, I get what
you're saying. I totally get it, but they're the only
ones to have done it that way.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Yeah, it's it's certainly yes, unless they feel like the
player personnel guy they have in place is the future GM,
which is certainly possible to Yeah. Yeah, and uh so
we'll we'll see. But McCarthy's the word came out as
soon as this firing happened that O'Connell did not want him.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, you know, like the knives come out, you know,
as soon as we leave. As soon as I leave
the show, cracks and be like, guy, it's women's college
basketball too much? What do we do?

Speaker 5 (55:53):
Kidding me?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I'm just letting you guys know, I'm two cracks favorite thing,
making a live wager during the show because the Yukon
game starts.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
At noon, Tennessee, we're live, Okay.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
So at first, what I.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Was gonna say is women's college basketball was off the radar.
It's off the book maker radar. I have no problem
with that. I have no problem you're betting that that stuff, Like,
you know, you're not betting the NFL sides. As a
matter of fact, possible Jeff never bets NFL sides again.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I miss I might, I might never do it again.
So I looked this up I haven't done my I'm
a couple weeks behind my spreadsheets. But like last year
March Madness, I was forty and twenty and women's college basketball, Wow,
there you go, mostly live wagers. Again. I do the
same thing every time big favorite. I wait, if I

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miss it, I miss it, Like I missed the game
and they get up twenty points in the first quarter.
I missed it. Games are pretty close early on. You
get the men's college basketball doesn't fluctuate like this. They
don't move the number like this. They never do. Also,
they're not twenty six point favorites either. Like this part
of it is like like the word you know, maybe
what's in the worst number today in some lower conference
game fifteen points? I mean, you know you see this numbers,

(57:02):
like what's the what's the what's a seven and one
A ten team against ANH to eight A ten team?
Fifteen points?

Speaker 5 (57:08):
Right right?

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Yeah, forty one and a half. It's an absolutely insane
market that's in and so that's just a big difference
in the sports. And so yeah, you take advantage of
I know that there are sharp groups, the sharp guys
that that that live bet women's college basketball like crazy,

(57:29):
which again you have to be sitting there watching it,
of course, but it can be done.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
Hey, more power to them.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
It. Cash is the same. If you find an angle,
if you find value, fire away. I don't care what
it is I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Like Purdue is playing Maryland today in college about it.
It's three and seven perdue in the Big twelve conference, right,
twelveth overall, and they've been sputtering a little bit at Maryland,
who's won and eight in the Big Ten. It's fifteen
and a half. Produce fair with fifteen and a half,
right right, and they've lost three games in a row,
like they're sputtering right now. Fifty and a half.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
It's not forty three and a half fifteen and a half.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
You know, it's just a sain Thomas. Minnesota's here about
eighteen and a half today. I didn't know that's a thing.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Wow, Well, I mean yeah, yeah, you got to go
off the radar to find some crazy spreads. But we're
not even getting over twenty, you know what I mean. Like,
so it's just different. The talent disparity in women's college
hoops much different. It's just it's it's the Grand Canyon
between some of these squads, the difference between them.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
So yeah, there's some good games to sday though.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
What college hoops? Yeah, oh yeah, there's some really good
ones we got, you know, Nebraska Illinois is a great matchup. Yeah,
I'm excited for it. That we get it going right
away with Florida and Alabama, that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
Yeah. I have to string some days together here. Yeah.
On Friday I was zero and four. Yesterday I came
within one overtime of being nine and o. I mean,
just sick eight one. But it's just so amazing how
you can't string every day together. So but yeah, it's
college basketball is here in full force. I have to

(59:05):
really start looking. Honestly, I've done well over my career
betting women's college basketball too, I just haven't really done
too much this season.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Men's college basketball drives me absolutely insane.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
It's kind of like your NFL sides, right men's college tubs.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
Yesterday alone, okay, I had Virginia Tech plus thirteen and
a half. They scored two points in the final five
minutes a game that it was the end and they're up.
They're down thirteen with foul with thirty seconds left. Why
Saneo State is laying two and a half. It's fifty
nine to forty nine with a minute and forty five

(59:46):
seconds left. The game went to ot tight at sixty.
It's a ten point league. You scored one point in
the final minute minute forty five didn't cover. They lost
in overtime.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
How did this happen?

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Virginia Tech? That's terrible. You lost by half a point.
That's a half a point. You got a great line too, Wow, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
Got thirteen and a half, and again they were within
the number for the first fifteen was it was thirty
nine minutes and thirty seconds?

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, wo yep, that's gross.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
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Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Good morning to you, Christian.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Okay, you know I'm curious when you look at the side,
the total and then the props if you have them
in three separate compartments, right, what does the total handle
look like like? How much like? What's first, second, and
third how it breaks down for this particular Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (01:01:55):
Oh okay, yeah, so looking at that, I mean spread
and money line or the two that are going to
take the most action, you know, pretty far and away
totally the next one after that. But then if you
combine kind of all the props together when it comes
to the Super Bowl, yeah, maybe there's probably a chance

(01:02:17):
that all together those maybe would be more, but it's
kind of tough to say. As of right now, we
have three thousand, over three thousand vedible options and close
to one thousand markets live, so there's a ton of
props out there that will definitely all add up as
we get closer to kickoff one week away.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
It does feel like, out of outside the Kenneth Walker
rushing number, that you guys are probably rooting for unders
because it does fuck the public is all over the overs.
It ends up being the case you guys just hope
for a bunch of unders in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 10 (01:02:53):
Yeah. I mean, look, that's usually the sportsbooks position, if
you were usually rooting for unders, especially in this SGP
world that we were in now. But I found this
this game really interesting as I was running through props
this morning. You know last week Patriots scored you know,
one touchdown, he scored ten points. Seattle is kind of

(01:03:14):
known for their defense here, and you know, the Sharps
will tend to take more unders. But as I was
going through all these props, you know, even with the
Sharps usually betting early, almost a majority of any prop
that I was looking at was just more towards the over,
and we took a lot more action at the over.
It's funny thing you mentioned Ben Walker because he was
the one person I noticed over and over his props

(01:03:35):
were more towards the under. His longest rush, his rushing attempts,
his rushing yards all were leading towards the under. So yeah,
in generally usually the sportsbooks that are rooting for under,
but I think in particular, this is going to be
one that's shaping up or we're really if it's a
low scoring game, it'll definitely be in the books.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Favor Anyboddy, not just because we have you on here live,
but I want to tell you, I don't know if
any book has more props than you guys. I cannot
believe this year's you see said three thousand different ways
about this game, So it really is unbelievable. One more

(01:04:14):
week to deal with the old k man here, and
then you could stop being terrorized by me. But no,
you guys, you're right. You're right about a few things
here that I'd like to talk about. One, I see
the same thing with Walker on my end from my guys,
you're right, the sharp guys are leaning towards under there.

(01:04:35):
And two, I think a lot of people right now
you're seeing a small sample. It's probably historically the way
it works, even the sharp guys. I've only bet I
don't know, ten percent, maybe fifteen percent of my total
player props. I think I bet like three or four, five,
maybe five. I think I've got five. I'm going to

(01:04:58):
have at least dozen more, maybe even more than that
at bet MGM. And my third thing is I've asked
bookmakers all around town this week. I've done many articles
for some different news sources around the country, in New
York Post and well Coast to Coast. Any anyway, Christian,
if someone comes in right now and says, hey, bet MGM,

(01:05:20):
I want to bet a million bucks on either one
of the side Seattle, I would think the answer would
be yes. But I have found everyone to say probably not.
What's your answer to that or can you answer something
like that?

Speaker 10 (01:05:35):
Yeah, I mean, look, that's our general position is, you know,
a problems here to take bets. I want to take bets.
So you know, as long as you know it's a
player with that amount of you know, that amount of money.
You know the super Bowl is the event, Well, we're
willing and ready to take that kind of action. That
will says the positions where we do want less and
less action. So when I look at the money line,

(01:05:57):
where it's sixty of the money so far on the
Seahawks on the spread, it's at sixty, so in general,
and then we also have last leg liability where or
future's liability leaning over from the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
So in general, our.

Speaker 10 (01:06:12):
Book position is, you know, right now, we definitely don't
want the Seahawks. So you know, down the line, I
feel like there's a good chance that we'll probably try
to entice some Patriots action just to maybe start to
even things out, because I don't think this is going
to change really, I think this is going to continue
to be more Seahawks action over paths.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
But you would take probably a bet like that anyway
and work with it, am I correct.

Speaker 10 (01:06:34):
Yeah, yeah, of course, I mean that's again, that's our
position is. You know, I'm here to take vets and
if they want the Seahawks, it's not on me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
All right, Yeah, because I'm trying to talk Jeff and
his wife into doing this and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Christian, I'm going to go back to the three categories again,
you know, side total and props. If you had the
magical bed, mg wand right and you got each of
the three categories to go your way right obviously, side total,
what do you want? And then one prop? If you're
able to waive the magic wand and get one prop

(01:07:12):
to go how you want it, what would you choose?

Speaker 10 (01:07:16):
Ooh, that's an interesting one. On the one prop, there's
a few that I was looking at and maybe I
go like one fighter as the prop. Cooper Cup was
the player that I saw consistently with overs on basically
every thing I saw. His over receptions two and a
half was about ninety five percent to the over, and
then we moved to three and a half, still get
about ninety five percent his rushing or his receiving yards

(01:07:41):
to the over. And he's even a big liability on
us for first touchdowns, So I kind of found that
a little bit interesting. He was the one player that
definitely stood out to me. Yeah, if there's and then
to answer the full question, if I can get anything,
I think it would just be a low scoring game,
because even if the Seahawks do cover in a low
scoring game, everything else would probably trickle down and being
in the books favor.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Super Bowl MVP is also a fun market, right, you know,
lots of different ways to play that one. And you
know there's been in numbers all over the board. I
mean there's been talk with like a guy like Shahid
He's fifty here, twenty five there, twenty there. What's your
biggest liability so far for the MVP market?

Speaker 10 (01:08:18):
Yeah, always an interesting one. So we took a pretty
big bet on JSN. I believe it was either the
divisional round or just before the conference round. So he's
one of our bigger liabilities. And that's really just all
that the back of that one bet, although he is
obviously a popular person that is bet on. When I
look at that, also, Sam Darnold has taken roughly close

(01:08:41):
to fifty percent of the action in total in the
Super Bowl MVP bet since we listed it, so I'm
not sure if that's people using that as a kind
of a free money line type bet. Obviously the quarterback
has a much higher chance of winning in most cases.
But then when I do look to liability again, Cooper
cups that name that I just mentioned. He's one of
our bigger liabilities as they get into bigger and bigger

(01:09:03):
long shots. Christian Gonzalez is one name that pops up.
And then, of course I think we kind of talk
about this every year, but there's always one of these.
Jason Myers, the kicker from Seattle, one of our much
bigger liabilities. He's at two hundred to one, but he's
in there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Christian. Let me ask you something here. You guys are
four and a half minus four and a half minus
fifteen right now, which I believe it, or there's a
lot of fives out there now, some fives popping up
rowl in Vegas here. So do you see yourselves moving
to the five on this game? You look like you're
getting only maybe you said sixty to nine percent of
the spread right now action on Seattle. Do you see

(01:09:41):
going to five on this game?

Speaker 10 (01:09:44):
I do?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:09:47):
It's interesting because the super Bowl is I feel like
one of the I always talk about that we don't
really trade to liability. You know, if we have ninety
percent of the bets coming on one side, you know,
we usually wear that and it evens out throughout the season.
The super Bowl, though, is the one event where if
I can make more of a lean and kind of
be a you know, maybe just a half point or
choose a little bit more in one direction, it is

(01:10:09):
one event where I might be more enticed to do that,
just because the amount of action that comes through. I mean,
this is obviously the equivalent of weeks in the regular season.
So if you really are super lopsided in your best
coming to one side and you lose this game, you
know that's going to infect the entire year. So I
do think that will end up at five. I think

(01:10:29):
that this line closes probably consensus at five, even to
five and a half. As we are kind of in
this no man's land, you know, there's not a huge
huge difference between a four and a half and five
and a half. Most games, you know, won't end up
that won't end up being a difference, And because of that,
I do think that we at least will end up
probably close to five five and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Cool, interesting, always great stuff, Christian, Hope you have a
great rest of the day. We'll catch you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:10:55):
Always really exciting, you know, as I have just one
more thing I wanted to touch on, is that right
now we believe we're at about nine percent of the handle
that we've taken that we will take on this game.
So wow, long ways to go. Yeah, and it's exciting
thing so big then, and I'm Sadden. Talk to you
guys next week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Good awesome man, Yeah, have a good one. What a
great nugget to close that down nine.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Of less than ten percent.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
Wow, what they'll actually have at the end of Wow,
that's interessane man. I'm sure they've got a ton of
bets already and it's nine percent of what they'll eventually have. Wow,
that's crazy. Well, we go from a crazy fact to
a crazy person in a good way. Isaac Low and
Prawn with us with some crazy facts as well.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
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Last night, boxer Jurrell Miller overcame a unique form of
adversity in a split decision victory over Kingsley ebe As
just moments before the end of the second round, Ebe
knocked Miller's to pay off of his head. Here's how
it sounded on the Dezone telecast coming off.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
What is happening here?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It is, Oh, he's.

Speaker 10 (01:13:11):
Loading it down.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I've seen a lot in boxing, I've never seen something
like that.

Speaker 10 (01:13:19):
Here is that to pay?

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
And he just took it off and drown the c.

Speaker 8 (01:13:24):
Miller claimed that he lost his hair two days ago
in a showering mishap when he inadvertently used ammonia bleach
on his hair instead of shampoo.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Yeah, sure, that's what happened.

Speaker 8 (01:13:40):
Here was Miller after the fight with Ring Magazine.

Speaker 11 (01:13:44):
Oh it's so funny because I felt like a breeze,
I said, I said here, so I looked up with
a cared myself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Oh I got up, I said, I'm coming out.

Speaker 4 (01:13:56):
I want the world to know. Mola go with it,
bro like case.

Speaker 12 (01:14:00):
I mean, like I said, like I've always had here.
It's just literally like Lowsman here two days ago, and
I'm like trying to.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Put a piece on it.

Speaker 8 (01:14:07):
Boxer Jirell Miller instant superstar back to you, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
It doesn't sound like a guy who's like, oh, I
gotta have a two pay man. I'm worried about my
look it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
The old bleach in the shower.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
If I had a nickel for every time I had that, misshaf,
you know, I'd be a rich man at this stage.
That's not even believable that that's hilarious. All right, We've
got Bill Krachenberger, professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year
NFL veteran. I'm Brian. No, none of us have a
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Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
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We'll look at Super Bowl sixty. We'll look at some
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Speaker 13 (01:15:42):
Box up the floor, White, helloap, glory, aw slave, there's
your door slap shuts, there's your exclamation points Kansas by
eight and that a rejection Bryce A tiller on the
other read throws it into the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
Second row you want to finish for your Pansas Hawks.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Compliments of Brian Hanny from lear Field as k U
the nice win ninety to seventy eight over by U
and uh yeah, very nice, very nice win by rock
Chalk right there. And fun fact from me when he
said exclamation, I have a hard time pronouncing that word.
I often get tripped up with the sea I gotta

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punch the c otherwise fumble all over the place. Word
you struggle with there, jeff off the top.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Of your head, lots of them. I think i'll get
it to you. I can't spell restaurant though, as much
as he's a restaurant, really just okay, unable to spell it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Yeah, unable?

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
All right, crack a word that gives you problems, either
spelling or saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
Parlay.

Speaker 5 (01:16:50):
Parlay is good cheeser at the prices. Yet no, but
you know there is. I'm a little dyslexic too, so
I'll say some things and and uh, you know I
don't have the upper education you guys got. I got
Arthur Revenue, Bronx Graduating.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
School of hard knots Man.

Speaker 5 (01:17:07):
Yeah, fairly twelfth grade. But however, that's what it takes
though street smarts, common sense means a lot. But there
you go.

Speaker 6 (01:17:15):
All right, Well, I know you understand this. Let's get
to prop it up, shall we.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Prop it up?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Player plays alright, the prop betting market. Crack we start
with you is the fastball right down the middle, you know,
in your sweet spot.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
I apologize. I didn't send this to you guys, yet
I think you were here, Brian when I bet this
at the West Gate opener, the opening the lottery. But
uh bet MGM has a better line probably. I'm looking
at Walker under two and a half receptions even money.
I think Alani's going to get a lot of that
kind of short pass work down for Seattle. So Walker

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under two and a half receptions even money at that MGM.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
All right, I like to one of them. The number
is not as good anymore, but I like drake Me
under forty three and a half passing yards for the
first quarter. I just don't know where they come from
early the game. I think they have to figure out
sort of where the ball is going to go. I
just it's a matter. I'm looking at just Seattle zone coverage.
Who's he throwing the ball to? Who's going to be open?

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Right? Like?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Where's he going with the ball? The one I love
the most, and I haven't made a wager on yet
because I think this number might go up. But I
like drake Me under thirty seven and a half yards
rushing in this game. Yeah, and let me explain the
reason why a lot of rush yards for quarterbacks that
are scramblers, not design runs come when teams play man coverage.
The man coverage, their backs get turned to the quarterback

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right there. They're following their guys where they're going, and
a lot of quarterbacks like Drake may step back in
the pocket. Oh there's no middle linebacker. I'm taking off
and running right. What does Seattle do? They play a
ton of zone coverage. There's gonna be a linebacker over
the ball the entire game, and you can't run that.
You can't run the ball, but the linebacker skinning right
in your face. You canna run the ball or you're

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gonna throw the ball right. So I just think there's
the opportunities will not be there for him to get
long change. He might rush the ball. I think there's
a temp or six and a half. He might try
to run the ball. I just don't think there's gonna
be a lot of opportunity for him against this defense.
Sadle's not gonna let his legs have won two games
for him, right the Chargers game and last game. They're
not gonna let his legs be the reason that he
wins this game for New England. So I think Drake

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may under Thursday, And I think this is one of
those where you might get thirty eight and a half
thirty nine and a half come later next week ish, right.
This is one of the favorite overs. If you look
at John Ewing's bet MGM number one props, this is
number two I think for over. So I'm gonna hold
on a little bit and try to get a better number, guys.
But under Drake May thirty seven and a half yards rushing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Hey man, I smell what you're cooking. I like it,
and I would actually kind of double dip in that
market as well. I like the under. Like for everything
that you just explained, I would look at it's a
little bit riskier just because it takes one rush and
the over could hit. But I like the under on
Drake May his longest rush of thirteen and a half.

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I've against a bunch of zone coverage. They're not going
to let him just kill them with his legs. I
have a hard time seeing him rip off a fourteen
yard rush against Seattle. I just don't see it. I'm
willing to bet against it. So I like Drake May
his longest rush under thirteen and a half, and sort
of correlated with what you're talking about, Jeff, the under
thirty seven and a half maybe you get a better

(01:20:27):
number as we get closer to kickoff. I like Drake
May's over on nineteen and a half completions. He's top
five against zone coverage throwing the ball, and so I
think he's gonna have a good amount of completions in
this game. So if you want to do a little
correlated under on his rushing yardage over on his completions
might make sense.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
Might be a good way to go.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Yep, very nice.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
You're against the wise guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
You know, no problem with that crack every Now I've
got to rage against not just rage against the machine,
rage against the wise guys. Right coming up next, which
would surprise you more? This guy plays really well or
this guy plays really poorly.

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All right, here's the brain exploding type question here. Maybe
I'm overselling it a little bit. What would surprise you more,

(01:21:52):
Jeff and crack, Drake May plays really well or Sam
Darnold plays really poorly in Super Bowl sixty, which would
be a bigger surprise to you, Drake. Say that again,
Drake May plays really well or Sam Darnold plays really poorly,
the biggest surprise, the bigger of the two.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Yeah, I mean, I think they're both capable of doing
both those things. I think it would probably sprise me
most if Drake May plays very well. Okay, even though
I think that, like he absolutely could play very well.
There's nothing right saying he can't play well. But I

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think the way I see the game going and Seattle's
defense and they're just gonna sit in the zone and say,
all right, like beat us, buddy, and he surely can,
and if he does, I'll lose a lot of money. Well,
let's take it back. I'll lose less money because, as
I told you guys, I'm not We're not We're not
doing and doing all those props this year, some of them,

(01:22:54):
not all of them. No, I'll lose obviously on saddle
on on the on the side there. But how would
probably be the thing that surprises me the most?

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think either a result would actually,
I guess surprise me. If Drake May has time, he
could easily have a really good game. A lot of
it's going to depend on Seattle's defense. Are they getting
to the quarterback. They're forcing him to make, you know,
quick decisions, and I do think he's gonna have to
use his legs like he has all season though. You know,

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everyone has always said Donald can't win the big game,
and last week he put a lot of that to rest,
to be honest with you. So could he have a
bad Super Bowl? Sure, But again a lot of that
depends on the Patriots defense, how well the Seattle offensive
lines protecting Donald Donald too. So it's an interesting scenario though,
with these two quarterbacks who you probably at the beginning

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of the season, before the season started. Yeah, there's no
way you're thinking, either one of these quarterbacks are going
to be in this position, and they both are.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Now, yeah, I would I would agree with you guys.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Darnold plays poorly.
You know, I wouldn't be like, WHOA, where did that
come from? I'm like, yeah, you know, I wasn't. I
was partially convinced, you know what I mean. I'm a
partial believer in Sam Darnold. I'm not a complete believer.
So if he stinks it up, I wouldn't be like, WHOA,

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where did that come from? I'd be like, yeah, I
get it, you know. So I would be more surprised.
And I think very highly of Drake May. But you know,
off the heels of a really bad performance against Denver
and we're talking before the blizzard. He was not good
at all in the first half when the weather was a.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Lot of people in it are like blizzard. I'm like,
there was also like two and a half corners play
without a blizzard either.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
Right, Yeah, first pass was like here Denver, and Denver
was like, we're not ready for an interception on the
first pass. But he wasn't good from the get go.
But I think very highly of the guy, and they's
got the shoulder issue too, So okay.

Speaker 4 (01:24:55):
So doctor David Child brought that up on the internets
on Monday and Patriots were like no, no, no, not
a thing. And then Thursday for open practice, he wasn't
out there. Yeah, he didn't throw. I should say Friday,
I think he missed. He was sick in illness, illness
and shoulder. There was I thought. I think I saw

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it something like, well, I was very well, just kind
of playing with everyone by not having him throw. All
the media is at practice. I don't think you break
a routine in a week twenty two of the NFL season.
I think it's probably something. Now we'll keep out of
the game. No, he's just gonna play well, probably gonna
be fine. Donald has a bleak. I mean it's not nothing.
But to our point about rushing the football, like, is
he gonna run the football a lot with a bum shoulder? No,

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I thing's takeover. You know, those things kind of sort
of just happened. But is it possible that that's a problem,
that that's bigger than we think Because his first pass
after his shoulder injury was bad. It was like a
fluttering like short bad pas and then he told the
ball the rest of the game after that, So it's
it's not nothing, but is it worth making a bet
over like your bet?

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Probably not right, right, but it's something to keep in mind, right,
And if we're there's a question between are you more
surprised if Drake May plays really well or Donald plays
really poorly? Like, yeah, there are a couple of check
marks in Drake May's favor. I would again, I wouldn't
be surprised at all if either happened, but I would
be a little bit more surprised if Drake May plays

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really well. If I'm breaking the tie between the two,
and we'll see how it unfolds. Man, I can't wait
for Hi'm very excited for it. There was an interesting
stat here. I don't know, like crack you. I wanted
to throw this at both of you guys, because you
Crack you're more of like a live in the now guy.
You're not big on hey what happened years ago when

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the Super Bowl. But it's an interesting stat and I
wanted to throw it your way, and it certainly applies
to the now and the past. Right, But the outright
super Bowl winner is forty nine seven and three against
the spread. So meaning if you just pick the outright
winner and let's say that team was favored, well that

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more times than not way more times than now we're
talking over an eighty five percent clip, they cover the
spread as well. So would you use that at all
when you're breaking this game down, Like, let's just say
you like Seattle to win, and then you see this
trend where the outright winner is forty nine to seven
and three against the spread, would you then be more

(01:27:24):
prone to say, Well, if I like Seattle to win,
I'm more likely to lay the four and a half
or whatever it is because I think they'll also cover
the spread based on how the Super Bowl typically goes.

Speaker 6 (01:27:34):
Would you factor that into your thinking at all?

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Crack? It's an interesting trend. But as you say, Brian,
you know me. You guys know me, I'm not a
trends kind of guy, especially going back previous seasons and
previous years. I look at each matchup, peach game on
its own. I don't really look at trends that date back,
like I said, for more than the current season, different teams,

(01:27:57):
different players, different situations. I look at them each individual
game in line as its own, and I will use
certain season trends, sure you can. I think it applies
more to baseball. I read a really good baseball guy
said this years ago. He's right, like you know, you
you we we have all played baseball on our youth.

(01:28:19):
You ever get hot and you just you're hot. That's
that trend of you individual achievement. You're seeing, you're seeing
the ball better, you're you're at the plate, you're doing something.
I don't know if that's the same season, of course,
same week, same day. I think a lot of these
news sources use trends as something to talk about just

(01:28:41):
to fill some maritime, especially people that are in the
sports betting You know a game and you know, you know,
I want to say sports betting media. There, everyone is
in sports betting media now there you can't find the
network or a commentator that doesn't know the spread, doesn't
know uh, you know, situations, gambling situations. And I want

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to I'll even take a little step further. You probably
don't know anyone that's on the field that doesn't even
know the spread. Now it's just that much accepted everywhere.
It's everywhere there is, so it just fine gives them
something more to talk about. And uh, if anything, I
think things revert to the mean and over time over.

(01:29:25):
If you put it in any kind of a you
know scenario where you just do it over and over
and over again and build a model or just and
you put these things on a computer, I think it
would it would probably end up, you know, more towards
coming back the other way a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
So this was a trend in the Cultural World Championship game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
They're out, Yeah, this year.

Speaker 4 (01:29:47):
Miami, Miami lost and covered. Where for so many years
either the underdogs went out right or the favorite one
and covered, but those were those in this year. If
you had bet that trend, you have lost money because
Miami lost the game and covered as a dog.

Speaker 6 (01:30:05):
That's right, And that had been a trend for a
little while now I've.

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Been it's been years and years and years of a trend,
so to cracks point, if you just had blindly betted
on that as a trend, the trend thing, man, you know,
Like you see these tweets from people I don't want
to it's it's their business. I don't want to knock
their business, but they're just using AI like they're just
using AI tools to come up with this basketball player

(01:30:30):
in seven of ten games has done this and that.
And it's like, I'm not fault. I'm not betting on
that because you we were able to use AI and
find a trend for me to wager on. Like, I
just can't. I can't tail that because of that reason.
And I just I just can't do it. It's not
it's not my it's not my cup of tea.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
You know what Crack can do. I saw this tweet
very entertaining. He was checking out Sticks in a concert
last night. You know the famous song Renegade that's the
antwer for the Pittsburgh Steelers that I'm sure they played
that one right Crack.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
Oh yeah, that was like a fifth or six song.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Oh yeah, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
And that was a you know, it's it's living in
Las Vegas. You get these great, unbelievable opportunities. And just
in the last month, I've seen Heart, I seen Duran, Duran,
I seen Sticks. Jeff never heard none of these bands.
But that's okay. These are mine and Bryan's time kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Thing was all the matter.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
There you go, I thought, Jeff, everything he needs to
know you know he's he's on the lamb man. How
about I thought your tweet though, crack? How about that
you got a buddy that went to go get a
little gin and tonic? What was this like, you know,
a grand What was going on over there?

Speaker 5 (01:31:38):
Yeah? That got like almost six hundred thousand views so far.
Excuse me, guys, I'm laughing because all I was doing
was talking about the price of a drink. My god,
fifty bucks for a drink in Vegas?

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
For one drink?

Speaker 5 (01:31:55):
Yeah, it was fifty dollars. Now let me think, I'm
thinking he had a double. I don't drink, so it
was a Gin and tonic maybe gin and tonic a
double ye? And they added they added eight dollars to
the bill, which I thought was kind of It was
forty bucks and they added eight dollars. And that was
the purpose of the tweet was he didn't he's had

(01:32:18):
a concession stand. He didn't, okay that like, there's a
law here. And I found out there's a law here.
Now you could take that off there. So they're getting
a twenty percent auto gratuity onto the bill. Forty eight
dollars for a drink, and it it went, it went
viral on Twitter. Yeah, I didn't put it on the
other socials yet, but I just thought it was unusual

(01:32:41):
and that's just it is. But you know what, though
the show was great. Some of those guys seventy seven
years old, the original two guys that started the band
were in there seventy five years old. One of the
other guys was still you know, the lead singer who
left the band and a new one came in thirty
years ago, took right up, picked her up for him.
But yeah, it's just some of the great things of

(01:33:02):
being in Vegas. And today I'm actually going to see
the Wizard of Oz of the sphere.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
Okay, yeah, okay. How how can these rock stars live
the life they've lived and I've seen to live forever
against a person who has like, eats the right food,
It doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, does a party will just
have like a hemorrhage and sixty five and.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
The rolling Stones you're going to live to one hundred
and eighties. Insane.

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
It's kind of like how you preserve something in formaldehyde.
It you know, stays around forever.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
And that's those Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Keith, Keith Riches has all of his Organs perfectly.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
I would. I would believe that. But I think it
goes back to the idea that like these when I
see when I play the NFL Hall of Famers, they
just have this otherworldly physical talent right to just never
get hurt, or if they do get hurt, they have
like like a quick rehab I've never seen before. You're like,
what what like peers talking about? Right, I'm much from

(01:34:00):
an acl and people think that's like normal now, oh yeah,
nine months, like whatever, just normal. I feel these rocks
are the same way. They're just genetically different and they
can withstand the years of abuse of drugs and all
and be fine. We're like I couldn't do that. You
couldn't do that, None of us could do that.

Speaker 5 (01:34:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
You're right though, yet I never thought there was a
link between Adrian Peterson and Keith Richards, But you're totally right.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
It's absolutely very.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Genetics, right, genetic freak shows. But they do obviously with
their voice right, and they're the ability to perform and
come up with music. It's just a different type of
freak show. But that's all explanation. Otherwise, there's no like
medical reason why they are able to live forever, never
have what feels like any sort of issues the same
way regular folks do who take care of their bodies.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Yeah, it's crazy, It really is wild how it does
work out like that? Crack.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Like when we would go to Doms in Vegas, it's
like a pizza joint and they put on a show
with Jim Feist every Wednesday. Ye do you know Ken Thompson,
he was there at one of the Yeah reasons.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
I know, Ken, Ken. Ken put me on one of
one of the first radio shows I was on about
thirty years ago. Absolutely, no, Ken.

Speaker 3 (01:35:09):
That's very cool. And uh, while we're talking, you know,
music and stuff, he shared a great story and it's
kind of what you're talking about, like healing sort of, Jeff,
what you're talking about. So someone in his family is
related to Zach Wilde, the guitar player he used to
play for Ozzy. You know it's his brother in law,
his brother in law. Yeah, it was Zack.

Speaker 5 (01:35:30):
Wilde, Ozzy's guitarist.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Absolutely, yeah, right, Like, so his sister is married to
Zach Wilder. Correct, right, Okay, it's correct. So he's telling
us this story where he goes Zach Wilde was crushing
a member of Metallica, like one of the guys had
quit drinking, and so Zach Wilde is like what it
was like, you know, he's crushing this guy from Metallica
for stopping drinking. And then you know, Zach goes to

(01:35:53):
the doctor and apparently he's got real thin blood and
the doctor's like, Zach, dude, you got to stop drinking
all together. And so Zach was like, oh, man, when
I'm on the road and if I go to like
Holland or amsterdamage, some of these places are unbelievable for drinking,
Like can I I just have like a drink or

(01:36:14):
two in some of those like hot bed countries And
he's like, yeah, you can have a little bit of
booze if you want to be a little dead no
drinking whatsoever, which I thought was hilarious. That's like God's joke,
Like how dare you crush Metallica? Zach wild Like boom,
now there you go. You can't drink anymore? How about that?
That's it was a great story from Kenny's great storyteller

(01:36:35):
as well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:36):
Yeah, very good. Great spot over there too as a
pizza spot for you guys, and come to town. He
has a New York recipe. We can talk about anything
on this show, Keith Richards, pizza spots, blood, transfusions, whenever
you need wild.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
We cover everything good good.

Speaker 6 (01:36:52):
Jeff threw in lamb of God.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
You know we're complete, like everything else is.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
I couldn't. I couldn't even tell you what they look like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
I have no idea we're going, Jeff, we're going to is.

Speaker 5 (01:37:03):
We have to go.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
No walk in the sideline, right, we have to go. Man,
It would be amazing if you went and you were like,
I can't believe I've been missing this my whole life
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
I don't think that's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
You know, guys, now that you say something like that, Brian,
if you were given a ticket to the super Bowl
someone said to me and would you go, I would
not good. Here have you met? Have you ever? No?
I have no interest in going either.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Never been to one. I've been to one. I was
fortunate to go with my is my brother won like
I had access to like fun stuff and a bus
to get there in a pregame party, like oh cool. Yeah.
I think if like, if you're going with none of
those things, it probably is very.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Difficult, right, but which one was it, Jeff?

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Which was the Chiefs Dolphins and I mean Chiefs Niners
in Miami?

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:37:56):
The first one, like the or the first championship? The one?

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Yes, okay, I think it was what fifty four fourish.

Speaker 5 (01:38:04):
More than that?

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Was it Miami?

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
He was in Miami?

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:38:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:38:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
And of course, guys, the reason why I'm not a
long pass.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Yeah, the reason why I'm not going is I do
a lot of betting on Super Bowl Sunday here in Vegas.
There's no way that that I'm leaving my betting. Honestly,
it's got to be a bet approved state, you know,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
While you're not going to California, we'll wait for you,
wait for another one where you can bet from the stands.
Then we'll get you in attendance. All right, We've got
Bill Krackenberger, professional sports handicapper. Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran.
I'm Brian No coming up next. One change makes a
ton of sense. The other change probably not much sense
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We've got potential NFL changes just around the corner. So
one thing that they're talking about, which I'm completely in
favor of, is using replay for missed player safety penalties. Now,

(01:39:34):
this is kind of a ridiculous way to shoehorn it
in there, but we're talking about a face mask penalty
that's uncalled roughing, unnecessary roughness, roughing the passer, hip drop tackles,
all that stuff. They're putting it underneath the headline of
player safety penalties. This is just obviously missed calls, right,
like they just missed. If you watch a replay one

(01:39:56):
time and you're like, you just got hit in the head,
that should be a penalty and they should be able
to change it to a penalty so that's what they're
talking about doing.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
I'm totally in favor of that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
I have always, I'm not always have come around to
the idea that black and white calls. Was it a
face mask?

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Was it not?

Speaker 4 (01:40:16):
Was it hit to the head?

Speaker 5 (01:40:17):
Was it not?

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Those should be able to be changed upon replay review.
Wasn't a pass interference subjective? No, don't change those right?
Was it a face mask? Was it a hit to
the head? Great? Love that. The other change you're talking
about in college football, by the way, is redoing targeting
to basically make it like, what are we injecting guys really?

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Are we really gonna inject guys for Like football plays?
Wide receiver lowers himself as you go to make a tackle,
you hit helmet, a helmet, like, we can tell if
it's on purpose, right, We could tell if a guy
launches himself into the defender. In the NFL, we can
tell if a guy is a face mask, if a
guy those should be easily reviewable and it shouldn't take
you very long. You know one thing about college basketball,

(01:41:04):
and again I don't want to get back on even
the NBA. I was watching Hornets Spurs yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
Let's action nice.

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
Well, I almost went so, you know, it was at noon.
It moved to noon here yesterday. But I looked at
the ticket prices for a game in the middle of
a snowstorm. Still too expensive, like not paying two to
bucks for a ticket. But the Hornet's play as good
as they're playing right now. Gonna not gonna do that
is that the review process in basketball takes way too long.
What do you review at the end of that game

(01:41:31):
they reviewed if Miles Bridges kicked out his leg on
a three point off. You were watching that game, Brian, Oh, yeah, yeah,
he very clearly did. How you don't need to five
in the review. And I think the NFL is going
to go job of speeding that this process up from
the booth. So if you do this, just make sure
you speed up, like continue to work fast, just work fast.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Yeah, you on board with this crack. You want a
non calls to be you know, reviewed and changed.

Speaker 5 (01:41:56):
If need be. I like being able to review the
like maybe the face mask. There was some bad ones
that recently. That's the way Stafford did. Stafford get yanked
out and I think he did. Yeah, that's that's the
you know, that's not really a judgment call, and it's
pretty clear cut on what is what is and what
isn't a face mask. I would think a lot of
times the ref misses this call, but you know, but

(01:42:19):
it's just because he his line of sight is blocked.
Sometimes he's a moving player, moving thing. So I think
that's a good one that should be reviewed. As far
as like unnecessary roughness or roughing the quarterback, A lot
of these are judgment calls. You remember they try to
do a review on the past deference that Yeah, yeah,
that just opens up a huge can of worms and

(01:42:42):
and it's just really tough to review something that's a
judgment call on the ref. But yeah, the face mask,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
Yeah, I just I think it's dumb and this is
just the next phase of replay where you know, it
wasn't called on the field, so we can't review it.
And it's like sometimes it needs to be reviewed. You
just completely remember Sam Darnold, wasn't it when he was
with the Vikings last year he got yanked down by
his face mask in the end zone. They missed it,

(01:43:08):
and it's like, guys, we can't have games decided like
that at all. It's embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
And I like cracks point. Like, guys, these games are
played fast. They're played very quick, they're violent, like reps
are gonna miss stuff. It's they're not perfect, and I
think we have to accept that we really we don't
often enough. But you have a sky judge, like, use
the sky judge, use the opportunity you have at hand
to make the right to make the right call. And

(01:43:34):
so I think this is a move in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
And I'll tell you what to your point, Jeff, the
NFL has been fast with replay Assist. Sometimes you don't
even notice it where they're like replay Assist says that
it's actually third and one, so not a first down
on with life, it's not this five minute review.

Speaker 6 (01:43:52):
It's really good. It's fast.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
The other change that they're talking about making, oh boy,
brace for impact. Increased concussion rates on plays in twenty
twenty five among the factors in a potential revision for
the kickoff in the NFL. I don't know what they're
thinking about doing, but maybe we get a tweak or
two and coasts went up, Yeah, they went up a

(01:44:17):
little bit. So now whatever they might incentivize more touchbacks.
Now it's like, can we pick a lane. Let's just
pick a lane and stick with it. It's tweaked all
the time. It's confusing enough to figure it out if
you're just explaining, hey, I don't know this new kickoff
thing was, what's the deal here? And you're like, all right,
there's a landing zone. If it lands before the landing zone,

(01:44:38):
you get the ball at the forty. If it goes
straight into the end zone the thirty five. If it
lands in the landing zone then goes in the end zone,
you get it at the twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
It's like, what what what? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:44:46):
It's hard enough the way it is right now. You
don't need to change it more.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
It's difficult to understand. Also, touch back coast thirty five,
Now that that's a they're only twenty yards away from
cam little like easily google that's right. Like it's it's
way too easy now to score in my opinion, offense.
So I would not make that change. I mean again,

(01:45:11):
like the thing about football, man, guys, it's a violent sport,
like you're unlike when I first got in the NFL,
when concussions were sort of ignored, and you guys unfortunately
played through way more than they do now, right, you know,
you could maybe get away with with a concussion back then,

(01:45:33):
there's no negligence. Now players know what's what they're in for.
Like there's enough education now that there's no way you could.
You know, there's no lawsuits anymore. Like we know we're
getting into forever you I think not forever. But you
just sort of like didn't it wasn't taken seriously. Now
it is, so you have to accept there's gonna be
some concussions and that's just part of doing business in

(01:45:54):
the NFL. And and you can't regulate all the violence,
all the concussion, all that stuff out of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
It's totally right.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
I mean, just think about what Jef's saying. This is
only ten short years ago, fifteen years ago. What what
happened that the helmets were even better? And I know
they're better now, but what happened forty and fifty years ago,
but the helmets and they weren't even.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Was such a that's why. Yeah, but guy's also getting bigger, faster,
stronger now too, Like they're just it's it's a lot
of it's a lot, man.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Yeah, Well you can't take you know, you can't take
football out of football, you know what I mean, Like
you just said it, you can't regulate all the violence
out of it. That'd be like, I don't know UFC
or the guy who's two pages got knocked off his head,
and it's like, man, like these these punches to the brain,
to the head not very good, not very good. It's like, well,
it's boxing, okay, like that that's the sport. If you

(01:46:45):
don't want that, then it's no longer going to be boxing,
you know. So I yeah, there's just no way I
understand that the concussion rates are going to go up
in a certain season here or there. I don't think
you should have this knee jerk reaction of like, all right,
change all the kickoff rules now because the concussion rates
are on the rise a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:47:03):
I'd say it's a hard discussion to have.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
But your bring up a break point sport. Yeah, boxing,
there there's nothing protecting them except for you know, they
have a mouthpiece, but as far as they're head, there's
nothing protecting these. These helmets are made, I would think,
are made so so much better now and and and
now you're taking the game out of the game. And
Jeff said the same thing. I mean give kickoffs here

(01:47:27):
that any twenty yards for a field goal. I mean,
it's so true. It's very interesting, very interesting. So uh
compared to boxing, God, for sure, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
All right, well, let's keep the interesting interesting train running
over here. We got Isaac Lowandtron cornering the market in interesting.
He's uh, he's got more for us.

Speaker 6 (01:47:45):
What's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
I love?

Speaker 8 (01:47:46):
Oh? A very interesting day and weekend in sports, starting
down Under in the Australian Open final where Carlos all
Kras at championship point in the fourth set against Novak Djokovic, on.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
To the back end of Kaz Djokovic Bigo boy, and.

Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
It's long.

Speaker 9 (01:48:04):
And it's a destiny fulfilled Picalo tel.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
Kraz sixty two six green.

Speaker 8 (01:48:11):
He has completed at career Grand Slam at twenty two
years old. All Kaz is the youngest in men's tennis
history to complete the career Grand Slam. The NBA, the
Cleveland Cavaliers are acquiring Dennis Shroud and Keon Ellis from
the Sacramento Kings for DeAndre Hunter in a three team
deal in which the Chicago Bulls will acquire Dario Sharwitch

(01:48:32):
from Sacramento as well as two second round draft picks.
Someone on social media at Yasi Goslin astutely pointed out
that Dennis Shrewder has now been traded eight times during
his career, tied for the second most in NBA history.
Trevor Ariza the all time leader. He's been traded eleven times.
And finally, I love that. I know, good, good, good

(01:48:55):
for him for unterthing. That finally in case for people
out there who just tuned in. And last night, a
boxer named Jarrell Miller overcame a rather interesting form of
adversity in a split decision victory over Kingsley Ebat. Moments
before the end of the second round of the bout,

(01:49:16):
Ebat knocked Miller's to pay off of his head. Here's
how it sounded on the Dezone telecast coming off.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
What is happening here?

Speaker 9 (01:49:26):
It is, Oh, he's losing it down.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
I've seen a lot in boxing, I've never seen something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
To pay and he just took it off and dropping
the bird now.

Speaker 8 (01:49:41):
Miller claimed that he lost his hair just two days
before the fight, when apparently he was staying at his
mom's house. He was unfamiliar with the deployment of shower
related resources in the bathroom, and he inadvertently used ammonia
blea on his hair instead of shampoo. Here was Miller

(01:50:03):
after the fight, speaking to Ring Magazine.

Speaker 11 (01:50:06):
Oh well, that's so funny because I felt like a breeze,
I said, I said here, and so I looked up
in a care myself.

Speaker 12 (01:50:14):
Oh I got up. I said, I'm coming out. I
want the world to know there's more letter show go
with it, bro, like you know, I mean, like I said,
like I've always had here. It's just literally like lost
my here two days ago, and I'm like trying to
put a piece on it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:30):
I would have personally preferred that Rel Miller claimed that
he had the top of his head accidentally blowtorched while
trying to break into Kevin McAllister's house, like Joe Peshi's
character in Home Alone.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
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(01:51:12):
at least Jeff's answer, the others. The other one I
don't know your answer. So the first one football related.
Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. He had a broken bone in
his foot. He reaggravated the injury in Week sixteen against
the Browns. So if you think about this at all,
like Jeff, I know your answer, does this change how
you think about his four turnover performance against the Broncos

(01:51:36):
in any way, shape or form. What would you say
to that? Jeff, No, not at all. I agree right, Like,
you can't be a bozo before halftime, Like it's just
a bad decision fumbling, you know, and carrying the ball
like a loaf of bread. That has nothing to do
with the broken foot. Admirable, he played as well as
he did, you know, reaggravating that injury. But no, you
gotta be he was careless with the football. That has

(01:51:58):
nothing to do with his foot injury do the.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
Lebron thing and have like the wrist brace after a
loss and be like, guys, my wrist hurt.

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:52:08):
The thing that I do question is like, you know,
I you know, teams are very liberal with injury reports.

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
Right, yeah, uh, we didn't know it was to this degree.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Remember Dion Dawkins his left tackle in the locker room
and it was probably after the divisional round. He's like,
or sorry, the wild card round. He's like, if you
guys knew what this guy was dealing with injury wise,
you guys don't even know. So like he knew, like
the team knew the injury board, we didn't know. Yeah,
it's pretty crazy. Good point, you crack. Does that change

(01:52:41):
any any way that you think about Josh Allen play?

Speaker 5 (01:52:44):
Yeah, you know, it did seem like something was off
with Alan versas Broncos that it makes sense that they're
now saying he was playing on this broken foot. Uh.
Interesting the timing of this news though. If we knew
this before, does it give ex coach McDermott an excuse
for losing? I mean, uh, do you still get fired
if it was public knowledge that Allan was playing on

(01:53:04):
the broken foot just very interesting and this comes out
now so yeah, but yeah, I mean to be honest
with you. This blood on the line here, we're all betting, right,
what's going on? We need to know this stuff, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Yeah jesus, Okay, well I was thinking this too crack.
So you said if you had a ticket to the
super Bowl you still wouldn't go.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:53:26):
I just heard I Low's latest update and you know
he's got the Australian Open stuff, and so I just
it hit me. I'm like, if you could go to
any sporting event, we got you a ticket, you're there,
you could pick anything, crack, same thing for you, Jeff,
what are you picking?

Speaker 6 (01:53:40):
We'll start with you. Craig, What's what's on the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Top of that?

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
I actually would would enjoy. Believe this is going to
shock everybody. This is gonna shock everybody. I would love
to go to like one of those World Cup games probably, Okay, yeah,
perfect time of the year for me. Yeah, yeah, no,
and you know it may be. I mean I actually
looked at tickets, flid or not. I've never been to
any kind of a major soccer event, and I would

(01:54:06):
I would love to go to over a big world
Cup game.

Speaker 3 (01:54:09):
Now, would you prefer in the States where you don't
have to travel crazy?

Speaker 5 (01:54:12):
Or definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Like whatever you want to go overseas rather go.

Speaker 5 (01:54:18):
I'm interested in leaving the country at all. I'm good
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
What do you say, Jeff, what's the one?

Speaker 5 (01:54:23):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:54:23):
I got your free ticket? You can name the event?
What are you naming?

Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
I mean watching organ win a championship would be nice?

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
Yeah, yeah, we're talking realistic here though, Jeff.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
Fortunately been to a lot of fun things. I mean,
if you give me like a Sunday Master's ticket, I
would wouldn't hate that. I need I need a chair
to sit in though.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Yeah, okay, plus, yeah, Ryan, what's on your list?

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
I'll be boring. It'd be the super Bowl. That's that's
the mecca for me. I've never been. It would have
to be the super Bowl, no doubt. I'll tell you
a brief story, real brief.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
I had the great idea, like just a week before
Super Bowl forty two, to be like, I should try
to get a credential, And they were like, are you
kidding me? No, man, Like you had to do that
months ago, and anyway, I was working in Fresno. You
would love the story. Crack with Jerry Tarkanian. Sure, he's
the old UNLV college basketball coach, but he coached at
Fresno State for a couple of seasons. So he did

(01:55:28):
a show when I worked in Fresno, and so we'd
pre record all of his interviews, and so Crack picks
up the phone this like a week before the Super Bowl.
It's the undefeated Patriots against the Giants. And he picks
up the phone. He's like, Hello, what when? How okay?
And he hangs up the phone. He's like, huh, I
guess I'm going to the Super Bowl. I'm like, I

(01:55:50):
hate you tark Like, and he's got plush. You know,
the whole thing is set up for him to go
to Super Bowl forty two.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
So cool.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
It was cool that he got to go. But you know,
he's a made man. It makes sense that it worked
out that way. All right, good stuff. We got Bill Krackenberger,
professional sports handicapper, Jeff Schwartz, eight year NFL veteran, I'm
Brian No. Coming up next, we'll have some picks for
your rapid fire style. Also Cracks play of the Day.
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Speaker 1 (01:57:55):
Rapid fire.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
Alrighty, which have one selection for you. We're not pulling anything.
It's not the barlay players, but the crack start us off.
What's something you like?

Speaker 5 (01:58:05):
All right, let's go to Drake May to throw an interception? Yes,
over a half of interceptions the way it's worded at
bet MGM minus one p fifty. Yes, I think the
Seattle defense is going to force him to throw one.
And this bet was actually a popular bet amongst two
different sharp guys, one of them be and me and
one of them at was at the opening lines the

(01:58:27):
other day with me, so I was interested that I
actually got it in in the lottery because he also
had the same bet. So there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Nice, All right, Jeff, what do you what.

Speaker 5 (01:58:37):
Do you like?

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
I'll repeat my college basketball for today. I like Iowa
to cover the ten and a half against Mike Ducks.
My Ducks are essentially like not quick. You don't have
any good basketball players to play anymore, which is certain issue.
I do like Illinois to day to go into Nebraska
and win that game. They're getting a point a half
right now, They're they're playing good basketball, and Nebraska's been

(01:59:01):
a fun story this year. I mean to be twenty
and one, like incredible, right. We saw a Mission come
back on them and beat them a couple of days ago.
I just like the Illinois in this matchup, but the
top this is sort of a tough letdown for Nebraska.
That was basically can throwing the Mission game and at
the very end, Mission came back and won the game,
not fixing another ring team in Illinois. I think Illinois

(01:59:22):
to win this game today.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
By the way, I peaked at that first half total
Jeff Iowa at Oregon sixty two and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:59:30):
It's like crazy they might not even get there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
But as crazy low. If you're thinking about taking the
under on that one, it's like you gotta sweat out
every made basket. You're like, oh gosh, but under might
hit there too. I'm going to go in the super
Bowl for my rapid Fire pick give me Jackson Smith
and Jigba, give me under ninety four and a half.
This is creeping up a little bit. If anything, you
might want to wait a little longer. I don't see

(01:59:53):
it going down. It's gonna be much more popular to
take the over here, but I just don't think the
Patriots are going to allow Jackson Smith and Jigba to
kill him. And I don't know if they're going to
steal a page from Bill Belichick, but Belichick was famous
for it. You can't beat us doing what you do best,
and what the paid what the Seahawks do best, throwing
it is throwing it to Jackson Smith and Jigba. I

(02:00:14):
don't know if they're gonna double him, maybe bracket him,
but I would not be surprised if he's held in
relative check as special as he is. Ninety four and
a half is a high total, So I like the
under there. I just don't think he runs, you know,
wild against them, so I'll take the under there.

Speaker 6 (02:00:30):
Let's get to Cracks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Play of the day, all right, this is the best
play of the day.

Speaker 11 (02:00:37):
A touchdowns?

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
All right, Crack?

Speaker 5 (02:00:40):
What is it? Okay, let's go under. Receptions made at
bet mgm mac Hollins under two and a half minus
one p fifty. Uh, it could be mixing in some
more guys, you know, since Hollinds came back from injury,
they've been mixing in. But that could be more of
their game plan this game. So let's go Hollins under
two and a half receptions, plenty of more props and next.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
Week very nice, very good stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:01:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
We rattled off a handful of them today and we
got a pushold next week. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 6 (02:01:09):
Everybody enjoyed the day. We'll catch you later.

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