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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Yeah, loving the dream here on the Sunday before the
Big Game. This is End Zone Radio once again. We're
in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
It is that.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Annual countdown to the Big Game, the Big Game. This
year it's gonna be the Seattle Seahawks going up against
the New England Patriots and BJ Let's just say this
at the top of the program here. You know, last week,
a couple of weeks ago, I told you I had
a vision. I was like, you know, because I've covered
so many Super Bowls over the years, when I get

(00:37):
there or cover the Super Bowl, suddenly it's like, yeah,
this was sort of destiny here, right, It was sort
of like destined like and so, you know, a couple
of weeks ago and trying to figure out what is
the what is the destiny super Bowl? Like, this makes
sense that these two teams end up in the Big Game,
and it just hits me, it's got to be the
Rams and the Patriots because for months now, we're all

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we've been going back and forth, Who's the MVP? Is
it Drake May is a Maanthony Stafford? Back and forth,
as those are the two main guys in the MVP conversation.
But now that it's the Seahawks and the Patriots, I
get it. We're talking about two teams that did not
make the playoffs last year. Now, this has only happened

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a handful of times ever, where both teams are coming
off seasons in which they did not make the playoffs.
The last time this happened, interesting enough, was the Super
Bowl between the Patriots and the Panthers, because after winning
his first Super Bowl, Tom Brady, the Patriots did not
make the playoffs the next year, and of course the

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Panthers would rarely make the playoffs the Chiefs, right, So
this only happened four times. Ever, this is the fifth
time where both teams in the Super Bowl are coming
off seasons in which they did not make the playoffs.
So I guess that is the number one story angle.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
And if you think about it, what we're talking about
now is parody, right. This is the idea of the
National Football If you're wondering why there were so many
coaching vacancies around the NFL, it's because of this matchup.
Because if you're looking preseason.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
If you'd laid down a parlay of the Seahawks versus
the Patriots in the Super Bowl, the odds would be steep.
But these owners are like, wait a second, if the
Patriots can go from four wins to the super Bowl,
if the Sea Hawks can go from you know, picking
up you know we' and we're gonna get plenty into
the whole Sam Darnold situation. But if they could go

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from not making the playoffs to get into the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Why can't we?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And this is why we're seeing so many coaches walk
the plank because they're looking for that magic elixa.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So now that this all said and done, yeah, I
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
This is why these two teams are in this year's
Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
I'm not mad at it. I actually kind of love
it and like it because it intertwines it to what
I ranted about last week about the coaching hires in
the NFL over like the last eight or nine years,
and it's been system wonder kid from the McVeigh tree,
from the Shanahan tree, from these different Harball's creating quite
a tree for himself right now. Also, Jim, Jim's great,

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quite a tree for himself right now. But when you
look at those two coaches that just got hired. We're
I talk about last week. They were culture guys. They
were culture guys. They're not the best X scheme or like,
there's nothing real confusing that Mike McDonald is doing with
his defense. They're big, they're fast, they're aggressive, they're they're
fundamentally sound, they're accountable, and they're disciplined and their physical

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as hell. They play to the echo of the whistle.
They don't play to the whistle. They play to the
echo of the whistle. That's not a lot of scheming guys.
They imitate, they intimidate you, they beat you up, they
push you around like football's supposed to be played. It's
supposed to be played like that. And now you see
two coaches. What is Mike Rabel. Mike Rabel is a coach,
a guy, big time head butt of the guy busted
his lip on the sideline. I thought it was overplayed,

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but I get it. It was overplayed, but I get it.
It was that old school tough guy, the head button,
somebody without a helmet on, like an old eighties football
college football movie, like the program, the kid that was
all jacked up on the Roy's head button, the cars
and the windows with his forehead outside like it gave
you that feel. And that's where old school guys like
myself and you a lot of other people in this

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business look at the sport of football. That's why you
saw these coaching hires. And if you kind of look
at some of these coaching hires, they need a culture change.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
They don't need an nexes and o's guy.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
You can bring guys in for that, but the guy
at the top needs to be the CEO. He needs
to change the culture. So that's why I think you
see that. That's why I agree exactly what you're saying.
If you're one of these franchises. Look, I looked at odds,
but I think it was like sixty to one for
one of these teams are different. It was it's crazy,
like they no one thought these two teams were going

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to the s But now you have to say, okay,
how how how in the hell did they get there?
And it starts I agree with you with coaching, but
they both brought in both those franchises brought in culture
style coaches. They weren't worried about the x's and o's
and all of that. We'll get coordinated. That's what coordinators
for get the coordinators in for that. That's what both
these teams have done. So now you got to look

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at these ten jobs are available, not have been filled.
There's still one. Did the Cardinals get fields? There's still
two available. Are still two Cardinals in the raider.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I think one of them is pretty clear on who
is going to be a coach somewhere coming up.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
We'll get into that on the moment.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
But yeah, and also in a year where Indiana went
the national championship in college football coach, I mean, it's culture,
the whole thing, Indiana, New England, Patriots, Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's one of those years.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And so it's it's the outsiders finally inside playing for
the top prize.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
So it's it makes sense, Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
It makes sense.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Thinking about Indiana bo once again, what how did they
beat you? They beat you up, man, They're physical. They
take these pretty teams, right, they take these pretty teams.
Ohio State, a team that's got eleven nflers on both
offensive defense combined. They full they're gonna have at least
four guys taken in the first round and scored fourteen
points because they got beat up Hurricane same thing. Fact

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they got it they got two defensive linemen, two in
that front seven that's going in the first two rounds
of INFA. But they got beat up and he's a coacher.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
They scored. Does he smile?

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Does he celebrate? Does It's like one guy jumped on
his back and he got upset with it. He's like, dude,
it's not it's not over yet. Like and that's a
culture and like you I love that. I love that
you threw that in there in the end that when
you look around for the.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Ball man wins the championship and they have a Super
Bowl between the New England Patriots, right and the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
And he has also got the number one draft pick too,
So think about it like that.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
They don't.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
They didn't only win with coature. They got the guy
that we're all looking at saying, can he can? Can
he be generational number one overall pick this year?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
All right, So we're gonna we're gonna break it down
somewhat today. We're not going to exhaust everything because we
do have a big announcement about next Sunday, because we
will have an expanded show five hours as we are
literally the lead up shown to the actual game, The
Big Game coming out next Sunday, So and that day,

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obviously we're gonna break down prop bets galore that day.
Also next week, I really want to break it down
because we're gonna really get you set for the big game,
you know, and a lot of it not only has
to do with prop bets and everything else, all the
fun stuff food. I want to break it down next week.
I want to save it for next week. You know,

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what is the perfect breakdown as you sit down for
your parties. You know, whether you got a big group
of people, small group sitting by yourself and your man
cave watching the game, whatever it is, what is the
perfect compliment in terms of food, drink getting ready for
the big Game. So think about that. We'll have that
coming up next week as we get ready for the

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big Game.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
All right.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
One of the things that obviously was a huge story this.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Week, and we're going to get into this in a moment,
is what happened with the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Now I'm coming up in the next segment, I'm gonna
break it down for a lot of people because I
do have some insight in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
and one of my dearest friends has I've known this
guy for thirty years. He's a stat geek guy like me,

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Like he's one of those type of guys over the top.
And he is actually a member of the committee that
is the screening committee to decide the senior finalist for
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So this year it
was Ken Anderson, the former Bengals quarterback, Roger Craig, course
great forty nine er running back in lc Greenwood, the

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legendary defensive end of the Steel Curtain with the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
So he has insight.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Now I can share some of what he tells it,
but it will help explain what happened with the Bill
Belichick situation. And it's not what people are saying. So
that's that the problem is is people just don't get it.
They just see, Okay, Belichick didn't make the Hall of Fame.
I was actually on I was on several shows this

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week because people say, well, when it comes to knowing
Halls of Fame, Hartman is like the guy, right.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean, you're a Hall of Famer, So but yeah,
I do.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Follow Halls of Fame very very closely here and so
somebody asked me, they said, well, can they have a revote.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
I'm like, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
See there is no revote, but there it isn't just
about Belichick not making the Hall And we'll explain on
the other side. Now, here's a bigger question as we
get ready for our Sunday here. Have you ever wiped
with a piece of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is
this as good as it gets?

Speaker 4 (09:54):
I mean, so I think we've all been there, right, Like,
I mean, how many times do I have to wipe?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
All right?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
This is ridiculous, I'm wasting paper.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, guess what it's not switched to life changing wet
extra large flushable dude wipes because weder just cleans better.
Available to Amazon and at major retailers nationwide. Dude wipes
best clean pants down. All right, coming up on the

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other side, we're gonna break it down.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
What happened.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
What happened that prevented Bill Belichick from being a first
ballot Hall of Famer. We will break it down, explain
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the big story this week out of the NFL was
the announcement that Bill Belichick will not be a first
ballot Hall of Famer. Let's just start right there. How
did this become public knowledge? So let me try to

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explain to you what has happened, and how the Hall
of Fame has screwed this thing up royally. So for
years and years and years, the Pro Football Hall of
Fame Committee, and they've expanded it one time is like
thirty five to forty outs up to fifty. Right, But
they would all meet the Saturday before the Super Bowl.

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So that morning, Saturday morning, the day before the Super Bowl,
all the members of the voting committee would be in
the same room and then they would make presentations about
each of the candidates.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I mean some were just obvious, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
He'd throw out of names like all right, let's move
on because he's an obvious first ballot guy. Whatever, and
then they have an open discussion. They would vote, so
there would be fifteen finalists. They'd vote to cut the
list from fifteen to ten. Now they're going to have
another discussion and then have another vote to cut it
from ten to five.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Once they got.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
To the final five, each one of those were voted
on individually.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
If they got eighty percent of the vote, they were in.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And for more than a decade, every single guy that
would make the cut to the final five I would
get elected to the Hall of Fame. Every single one
and then they would have a senior candidate and they
would have a coach or contributor candidate.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
And that's the way it worked for years.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, what happened was COVID prevented them from all being
in the same room, so they did sort of a
virtual you know, meeting, and they sort of liked that
instead of all having to sit in the same room.
But when things got really crazy was when Dion Sanders
made the comment a couple of years ago that they're

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just putting everybody in. They're completely watering down the Hall
of Fame. You're putting in in guys that honestly do
not belong. Maybe there should be a different level of
the Hall of Fame for you know, next level hall
of famers and this, that.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
And everything else.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Did you agree with him to some degree? You know,
some guys you really by Harford.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I am one of those lessons more.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
It should be there. It should be I think it
needs to be.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I mean, obviously, the NFL had its one hundred year
anniversary team that was sort of elite, right, best of
the best type of thing, so I and this is
all halls of Fame. I just feel like there's too
many people you know. I mean, I mean, if you
got you know, Carlos Beltron versus Willie Mays. I mean,
I mean, it's you know, one guy's obviously you know

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all timer. But I get it because you need to
have a ceremony and need people, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
I get why they do what they do.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
But because of some of the comments that Dion Sanders made,
they decide, well, maybe we'll revise the voting. So this
is what you have to understand and will help explain
why Bill.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Belichick did not make the Hall of Fame this year.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
So starting last year, they completely changed the procedure. So
let's talk with the contemporaries. Right, you have fifteen finalists,
So now they cut the list from fifteen to ten,
and then ten to seven. Then each member can only
vote for five of the seven. Do the math if

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you still have to get eighty percent of the vote.
What they said was all right, top three vote getters
regardless of eighty percent or not get in. And then
if there are four or five guys with eighty percent,
you could have a maximum of five. Well, last year
only three made it. I'm gonna guess this. I'm gonna
guess that at least two of those three guys you had,

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Eric Allen, Jared Allen, and Antonio Gates. At least two
of those guys did not even get eighty percent, but
they were the top three vote getters, so they get in.
Same thing happened in the other group, where they lumped
together the coach finalists, the contributor finalists, and the three
player seniors. One is guaranteed the top vote getter is guaranteed.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Out of those three categories. Out of those three categories, one,
tributor and.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Seniors, they're all lumped into one CATEGORYA, which is fair.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I like that, and you can vote for three of
the five, but you do. Okay, let's let's again.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Do the math on this thing, all right?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
So Lash only one made it, Sterling Sharp, Mike Homer,
Gonn didn't make it.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
I mean, it was like, what what happened here? How
did Homer or not? Well, when you split the vote,
think about it.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
If and we don't even know that Sterling Sharp got
eighty percent of the vote, All we know is he
had the most votes. So when you split the vote,
the chances of more than one guy getting eighty percent
of the vote is near impossible. My guess is when
they do reveal this year's Hall of Fame class, it's

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going to be exactly like last year's Hall of Fame class.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
The Contemporary category.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Will have the minimum of three and the Coach Contributor
Senior category will have one. Somebody who devised this system
didn't do the math. So my guess on the Belichick situation,
and there's a lot of layers to this, but this
just gets down to the vote, is that you're saying, well,

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first of all, fifty guys are voting, and it's him,
Bob Kraft, Ken Anderson, Elsie Greenwood, and Roger Craig, and
you vote for three. Wouldn't he be on every one
of them? Wouldn't all fifty people say yes, he's one
of the top three. No, because of what happened last year,
there are members of that committee. I guarantee you who thought,

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all right, I really want to give some love to
one of the players, or I want to give some
love to Bob Kraft. Other people are all voting for Belichick.
We're not worried about Belichick. Hi, I'm sure he'll have
enough votes and enough people did that where he was
not the top vote getter. Now is Bob Kraft gonna
get in. We'll find out later this week. But here's

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one other thing I want to say, and obviously I
want you're taking all this and now I got a
follow up.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Nobody that voted.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
No one on that committee has any clue of how
many people voted for who. They don't know the final vote.
I'll explain later how it is that the Belichick story
leaked out or Eli Manning leaked out. But understand this,
the members of that committee have no clue how many

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votes anybody got. Because it's a seeker ballot. They turn
in the ballots and they are not told the results. Ever,
they can talk amongst themselves, but an actual official tally
is not revealed to any of them. So the idea
that they were in cohoots with each other or you know,

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let's not vote him, but that is wrong.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
That is absolutely wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
They all voted individually, they cast their ballots, and he
didn't get enough votes. So that is that is the
technical aspect of what accounts for Belichick not being a
first ballot Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
Sounds good, sounds good, sounds sounds real good, but you know,
I smell shenanigans. I do I smell shenaniganus. Now, I'm
not as upset as everybody else is. I understand Tom
Brady coming out and speaking with him, McGinnis coming out speaking, Uh,
Rob Grokownski coming out.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
That's what they're supposed to do. They're gonna do that.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Any even Bob Kraft, well he should. This man is
the reason why, along with Tom Brady. And it's not
just them. Those names I just name guys, those those
you guys forget these Patriot teams. There were a lot
more than just Belichick and Brady. You look at McGinnis
and rabel and and Teddy Brusky like they guys they
had stars. Man, these guys were studs.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Man. It was just a coach and a quarterback. So
they're doing the right thing.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
My only beef, I want to I want to go
back to your comments just now what you said, Well,
you gotta have a ceremony.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
No you don't, No, you don't. It's time to change, Steve.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
What we have just normalized in sports as it's supposed
to happen. I would be one hundred Okay if if
we had a year where nobody got in. You don't
have to have it you're just so you can still
have the people show up super.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Bowl weekend, all the guys wear their gold jackets and
have the dinner and stuff. Hey, do you think a
guy like coach Prime?

Speaker 5 (20:22):
He would probably say, yeah, I like that because y'all
putting too much in and now it makes you have
to be that much better.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You have to want it that much more if we
look around.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
I'm so tired of just throwing guys in the Hall
while they're still playing. Somebody told me last week Josh
Allen's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Why why you can't tell me? Like? Why?

Speaker 7 (20:43):
How?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
How is the quarterback? But what it's over?

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I think over thirty quarterbacks in the Hall, Steve thinks
is too many quarterbacks? Is way too many quarterbacks? Over
thirty quarterbacks in the Hall. But like, it's not the
Hall of really good. It's not the Hall of one
good season. It's not the Hall of four good seasons
out of ten. But you might have won two Super
Bowls in those two things. That's not what it is.

(21:07):
We've warned the Hall of Fames down period. I'm done
with the baseball I don't even talk about that one
no more. The NBA, they don't call it the NBA
Hall of fam I always thought basketball should have had
two hall of fames.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
You can have the NBA.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
There's no NBA Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
It's just the Nate Smith Basketball Hall of Fame, which
is okay because you want to get the ladies in there,
you want to get contributors, you want to get some
international player, and that's fine, but the NBA to have
its own separate Hall of Fame. And when I see
guys like mcgrady's a Hall of Famer, like mcgreat, like

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Tracy mcgrady's a Hall of how wow, because he can
go get buckets?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
What did what did he ever do? What team did
he ever really lead? And go do nothing?

Speaker 8 (21:52):
Not one?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
But he can get a bucket, he can score Walter
Davis man, I mean, these are these are guys like
I forgot Paul Piers really embarrassing moment at a Laker game. Well,
I'm a Chris bosh Right first ballow right, how not
his first ballot?

Speaker 5 (22:08):
How is he a Hall of Famer If he's a
Hall of Famer in pel Gasol's a Hall of Famer.
If Pala Gasol's a Hall of famer. Rashid Wallace is
a Hall of Famer. Now I can go all day
with guys that were nineteen and nine.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Reggie Miller's in a Hall of Fame. If I'm not mistaken.
Did Reggie even has over twenty points? That's something always happened.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean, I mean over of course. I mean they
put Michael Cooper in. I love Coop, but he was
never an All Star, never an All NBA player, always
an All defensive guy.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
You want to give him a lake, you want to
retire his number, you want to do the whole Laker thing.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I have to say that about Coop because one of
my all time Laker players.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
But again, hall of Fame. I mean they're trying to
make an argument for Robert Lori seven NBA time. I
just thought a podcast he was on. I just saw
a podcast.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
He has seven points and five rebounds a game for
his career, right, I mean, come on, I mean, I
mean Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain chem olaj On shotb Yeah,
those are.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Hall of Famer the best of the best of the best.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So I'm with you, less is more, all right. On
the other side, I do.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Want Fish as a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Now, well, come on, uh, he should have his number
retired by the Lakers though. And I say that because
there's only five LA Lakers who've been on five championship teams.
You got Magic, Kareem Coop, I'm with you, You've got Kobe,
and he got d Fish Fish.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Those are the five. That's it.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
I remember when Kobe won that fifth one.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He was walking by me and he goes, what do
you think now, Hartman, I go, I guess you and
d Fish have the same number of rings.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
He loved that. He laughed his ass. You. I tell you, man,
if I was an athlete me, you might have fallen.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
They took it from me because you have to have
all Right, let's find out what's twenty right now?

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Her name on a Hall of Fame lest it was
just like next, I mean, that's all time.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Oh stop.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
How many different roles do you play here at Fox
Sports Radio? It's insane. Thirty thirty two about that?

Speaker 8 (24:03):
I think I think we Jay's right about that.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
Twenty seven last week and now it's up to thirty two. Said,
I get the emails, I get the big I love
you know what. I'm blinding blind, but I'm like, this
is what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
To put a cot and you know what I love
there is one breeze. Yes, uh.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I do TV late night here in LA and so
I'll listen to Fox Sports Radio. You know, it's like
midnight and there's Manzi doing enough day, right, so I
hear her voice. You know, it's like midnight and Manzi's
running down the scores and everything else.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm like, unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
Yeah, good, you know, trying to try to stay keep
the people awake in the middle of the night, you know.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
So I hope I sound up and preppy for you guys. Yeah,
I'm glad.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
To be back because I'm sure you all missed me
last weekend.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
But I'm back. Here we go. Let's start in the NBA.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
The trade deadline not far fellas February fifth to be exact.
Nothing yet on Jannisantakoopa, but this morning the Hawks did
trade guard Veat Crachy to the Blazers for du Ap
Breath and two future second round picks. In case you
missed it, late last night, the Cavaliers traded DeAndrea Hunter
to the Kings for Dennis Schreuder and Kean Ellis.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
It's a three team deal.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
The Bulls are acquiring Dario Sarich from the Kings and
two future second round picks. In tennis, Carlos alcoraz Haz
completed the Grand Slam at just twenty two years old,
defeating crazy defeating Novak Djokovic at the Australian Open in
four sets. The semi final against Alexander Zverev that went

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till one thirty in the morning.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
That was I watched, watched the entire max five and
a half hours.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
And I thought he was losing that match.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
When he started cramping on the fifth set. He was
no Verev. Zverev at the house, Oh my god, vera Verrev.
At the end was like my legs.

Speaker 9 (25:49):
Were done, Like I couldn't I could not move and
I was trying to beat him with my serve and
he it just five and a half hours.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Was between really really good and.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
And really really good. No, Carls is greatness.

Speaker 9 (26:03):
It's like watching him, you're just like, I don't know
if you're ever gonna lose.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
All right, Well, think about this for a second. It's
his sport now. So he is twenty two years old.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
He he's already won seven Grand slams.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Is he gonna break Jokovic is right? Twenty four? Is
he gonna go done?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
So twenty Nadal at twenty two, Djokovic twenty four had
twenty three done.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Is this guy gonna go twenty five?

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Really? No run away?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Actually, but he has Sinner.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Cinner is great, he is, but.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
At twenty two years old. Just tell me who's gonna
consistently stop him?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, Sinner thousand years without injury, who's gonna stop this way?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Cinner beat him at Wimbledon last year.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
That was huge for Sin.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
It was it was at Wimbledon.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
So the tennis is in good hands.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Like you know, these two guys are phenomenal. It'll go
back and forth.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
We watched federal, Djokovic and the Doll battle each other
and they all ended up with over twenty all three
guys crazy. Every Body took their turn and got their run.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
And let's not forget you still had any Maria mix. Yeah,
you know, and he won three. That's amazing. Those guys
won multiples in the mixt of all that. But I
think this center, this Alcoraz Center thing, that's but it's.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Just them too.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
It's just it really interesting and maybe somebody here, but
that's very much. Ver can get in there, but he might.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
He'll still He'll still a French. He'll still he will,
He'll still a French.

Speaker 5 (27:29):
But the Australian, the US, Wimbledon, the Wimbledon, it belongs
to Center and Alcarez for the next five years. Somebody
might slip in there and grab one. Yeah, but they're gaming,
they're not hurt. You've got no shots.

Speaker 9 (27:43):
Stop.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
It's crazy. Last thing I'll tell you here, guys in
the NFL.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
ESPN reported a few hours ago that Seahawks offensive coordinator
Clint Qbac met with both the Raiders and the Cardinals
for their head coach vacancy.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
The NFL network just tweeted.

Speaker 9 (27:57):
Not long ago, the Raiders are zeroing in on Qbac
as our next head coach.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
No question about it, Tom Brady, Well, I mean think
about it if you if you're Clint Kubiak, by the way,
thank you very much, Monci.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
Yes, oh it's now. It's after meeting breaking news ESPN.
After meetings Saturday with Vegas. After meeting Saturday with Las Vegas,
Seattle offensive coordinator Clint Kubac intends to try to work
out a deal to become the next head coach of
the Raiders right now.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Literally all right, uh, we'll follow up on that right now,
Thank you very much, Moncie.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Once again, we're in the Fox Sports radio studios.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
So Clint Kubiak, by the way, his offensive game plan
in that NFC Championship game was sure genius. I mean
he took a guy who had struggled so mightily. Remember
we were mocking the idea of you know, half over
under on a half interception for a guy that had
thrown six interceptions in two games against the Rams this year.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
But Clint Kubiak's game plan first.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Of all, made Darna look like a Hall of Fame
quarterback in that NFC Championship That was one of the
best games ever for a quarterback in a conference championship game.
But if you're Clint Kubiak can have a choice between
the Raiders and the Cardinals, I'm sorry, I'm gonna take
my chances with Ndoza and I get to start with
a young quarterback who's super smart. You know, we'll figure

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out what kind of limitations he may have physically with
everything else. But give me a kid that will be
in the classroom with me. That's going to, you know,
commit himself to being the best he can be. Social life,
no social life. He's you know, completely focused on this.
Sign me up. That's that's who I want to work.
And they have pieces. They have a great young tight end,

(29:41):
they have a great run, young running backball right, and
expectations are low, so it's it's a no lose.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
So yeah, Clint Kubiak will be the game plan though.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
And you know me, my offensive mine, my offensive coordinator
is the way he was moving Jackson Smith and jabs.
That is See, that's where that's where I tell people, Well,
stop telling me coaching don't matter.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Stop that.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
You sound stupid, you do, you sound foolish as hell
when you try to tell somebody that coaching doesn't matter
in sports, because what that does is they can't bump him,
they can't touch him. He's six yards away from that
guy that has to cover him.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Now, the people screaming through the whole game, how is he?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
How is the best receiver in the league, one of
the top two, seemingly wide open?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Is anyone gonna cover him?

Speaker 5 (30:24):
But what he did was he handed the Rams coaching
staff their natural ass because if he's in the backfield,
stop using their linebacker to cover him. You're allowed to say, Okay,
get a linebacker off the field, put our fourth corner
on the field, our one corner.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
When he's in the backfield, you still.

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Go line up over him and cover him when he
comes out of the backfield. He's not on a slow
safety and he's not on the bulky linebacker running a
five to six yard out and leaving that guy in
that dost embarrassing him.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I was, so I'm sitting on the sofa, like, you
know what, that's a real good scheme. Let's see what
the Rams do.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Wow linebacker, Wow, linebacker, Wow, linebacker.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Safety, you're not gonna take your corner and put your
corner on him. I know he's in the backfield, but
you can still put your corner behind the defensive lineer,
right next to the linebacker, and when he comes out
of the backfield, have your corner right on him. I
thought it was brilliant, but you mentioned to play calling.
But that was the one thing that they pointed out
that I loved seeing, and that's great coaching. But then
the Rams coaching team coaching staff did not adjust to

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it all game now, and that's how he.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Lost no adjustments at all. And it's unfortunate because if
you look at Stafford's numbers, Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford became
the first quarterback ever in a playoff game, any playoff game,
to throw it for at least three hundred and fifty yards,
three touchdowns, no turnovers and lose the game. He was cooking.
I tell him he's been.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
He's been in the history of the NFL playoffs, any
playoff game it ever had at least three hundred and
fifty yards passing, three touchdowns, no turnovers and lose the game.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
The kid that dropped the punt really fast, Yeah, he
shouldn't even have been out there. If you guys remember
he dropped his first punt.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
He did. He just recovered it at that point.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
But I'm literally sitting on the sofa, Steve, I swear
I go pulling out the game. This game's too big,
This game's too big. They let no any mistakes today
you're off the.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Field, but it was. You tell it that.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
That's how the Rams woud ultimately lose the game of
the special team.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Their special teams have been better well, But you.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Know it's interesting you look at the stats of that game.
Everything's easy obviously the one turnover, but there was one
stat that was very much in Seattle's favor third down conversions.
Seattle was seven to thirteen. The Rams were won for
eight and in a close game, that is the difference.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
And still had a chance to win. But that that
drop punp man, it gives them. It's only eight, Steve,
I know, and you just stopped him.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That was the key.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
You stopped him to start the half right boom.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah, you give them seven and that's that's that's and one.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Play and they were in the end zone. So you know,
you're just frazzled and you take advantage of that.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
All right.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Coming out on the other side. I want to conclude
this whole Belichick thing with the leaking of the store
interesting because that none of this should be public knowledge,
none of it.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
So how did it happen that it leaked?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Not only will I explain how it leaked, I have
my theory on who's behind the leak.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
This is end Zone Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:20):

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Harvin Husky end Zone or Radio or in the Fox
Sports Radio studios or remainder again. Next Sunday, the Big game.
We will do five hours. We will literally lead you
up to the beginning of that big game between the
Seahawks and the Patriots. We'll be listening next Sunday here
on Fox Sports Radio. All Right, So I've been sort

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of trying to lend some insight into what happened with
the Belichick not making the Hall of Fame of the
first ballot. So, okay, we went through all the voting stuff.
Now I'm explaining how did this become public knowledge?

Speaker 3 (34:00):
That's what I'm interested. Okay, So here's what happened. Now.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
As I mentioned years ago, there was no way anything
could leak out because they would literally vote and announce
the selections all on the same day. But now they
actually vote three weeks in advance.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Quick question, why why isn't it allowed? Is there some
type of stature or date that they're supposed to release it,
because I'm assuming you're saying.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
They are releasing it.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
They supposedly were release it with the NFL Honor Show,
which is later this week, when they announced all the
award winners, and then they announced that was the day. Okay,
So again, nobody that votes has any clue of the vote.
They don't have they don't reveal the vote to any
members of the actual voting committee. But what they did
was and this is really and I heard Peter King

(34:45):
talking about this the other day because Peter was a
member of the committee for many years. So because now
you've seen the last Cup, you remember they used to
have the big guy Baker knock on the door at
the you know, I used to love that, right, yeah, people,
so he resigned. He resigned, but they wanted to sort
of keep this going. So the last couple of years
you've noticed they actually have on film, like a Hall

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of Famer will go to the.

Speaker 4 (35:07):
House of this person, knock on the door.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, this is all taped two weeks in advance, so
now it's out there for three full weeks. We know
who actually is getting in because they have to set
up these photo shoots of everybody else.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
But how about those that don't make it. So it
used to be.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Is that if you were a finalist, you would fly
to the Super Bowl city, sit in your hotel room
and hope someone knocks on your door. If they didn't
knock on your door, well you just wasted a trip.
And for some guys, it's got to be a pain
So what the NFL decided, the Hall of Fame decided
to do is, if you're not going to be there,

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we will tell.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
You in advance that you didn't get in. So you
didn't get in.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
But but.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
In order to do that, you have to sign a
waiver of confidentiality, one of those non disclosures. So if
Belichick got contacted that he didn't make the Hall of
Fame and he has a non disclosure, how did that
story get out?

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I have a guess.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I can't prove this, but I have a guess because
there's someone very close to him that seems to be
very concerned.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
About his pr work.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
I'm going to guess that this certain someone she.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
When he got the phone call, said that don't do it.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
That she don't upset that her man did not make
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
She doesn't know about any non disclosure. She didn't know
any of this.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
She was expecting that come to summer she was going
to get the spotlight of him being in the Hall
of Fame. Big introduction for there is my love of
my life. And you're telling me that's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
That is BS.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
I can't prove it, but I'm thinking like, who would
we get an item. I don't think that Belichick would
call people like, hey, guess what I did. I don't
think he would. But somebody, they said in his camp did. Well,
there's really only one person in his camp that would
leak it out that her man did not make the

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Hall of Fame. And the next thing, you know, all
hell breaks suits. It burns like wildfire. He's getting calls
and then he has to react to it and everything else.
So that is my theory on how the Belichick story leaked.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it.
It makes it.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Makes total sense, that's not Does it not make.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Total especially in today's world where you know, hey, look
at me and got all these celebrity people and people
dating and all this. So we see the old Cardi
b and Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
You see the ladies of a lot of these athletes
take the social media.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Bitch about there and make trouble for them.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
By the way, I still you know what I watched
the other dafferens On was the giant second win over
the Patriots when Wes Welker dropped that pass was remember
and Gizelle went Berserko after the game saying, you.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Know, my man can't do it all.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
You got to catch the stupid ball that you threw
Walker under the bus, and Brady was looking there like
I'm in a divorce.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
At least I know my shorty. Now, I don't think
it went that way. I think at least at least
I know my shorty got my back.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Man. It's not always the best way to throw it
out there, But yeah, man, I used to curry. There's
a lot of ladies out here, you know, kind of
throwing their throwing there.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
There's some more supporting there, man, but there's also a
personal So that's my theory on that. By the way, again,
and then Eli Manning leaked out also, I think you
and I might be in the Hall of Fame Committee
because according to the bylaws of the voting committee, you
cannot reveal anything about your vote.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
And yet over.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Half of the members of the vote, when asked about
the Belichick thing, have either said yes, I did vote
for him or not said an absolute violation of the
bye laws of the Hall of Fame Committee. And if
they're going to hold to that, every one of those
guys have made their vote public about Belichick. I think
twenty five said they did too, said they didn't, twenty
three wouldn't reveal it. But those twenty seven that did

(39:15):
should be expelled from the voting committee and replaced by
people to really know something about the Hall of Fame.
I'm raising my hand right now. I'm ready to be
on that Pro Football Hall of Fame selection committee.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, I you know what, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
If you're not supposed to say nothing, it's written in
the by laws, keep your mouth shut and don't say anything.
They got to change a lot of this. Oh yeah,
they got to change a lot of this.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's a pr nightmare for they.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Really have to do a matter of fact, I recently
have become a voter and for the Southern California sports broadcast.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Are you real?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Well yeah, you know how you get you know, you
know I we don't have to say air you know
how you become one?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're a member. Now
you vote? I vote? Now? Wow? I vote? Hell yeah,
I vote now.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
By the way, here's a little secret. I've had that
vote whenever. I was always voting for myself, always always.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
You think I'm telling you so I know first for
twenty twenty six. VJA gets one vote for something whatever
category fit.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I'm getting the vote, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Voting for yourself is something that I you should, you
should I if I see my name on a ballot, yeah,
I'm starts at home.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
All right.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Coming up in the next hour, we got a lot
to do, including all the coaching changes around the NFL.
Who did it right? Who was the big swing and miss?
We're gonna break it all down. This is in Zone Radio.

Speaker 1 (40:39):

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Rolling along on this a big Sunday before the big
Game next Sunday.

Speaker 3 (40:49):

Speaker 2 (40:50):
We're in the Fox Sports Radio studios and pretty much
today we are taking care of a lot of business
because next week we just tuning in.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
We're gonna do not for but five hours next week.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
That's right, a next hour as we are basically your
lead up here at Fox Sports Radio all the way
to the big Game. And next week we're gonna get
into stuff, really get it ready for the game day experience, right,
I mean, it's a long day, and you know you
gotta have the prop bets. Vj's all over this. I
mean he's gonna have all these prop bets for you
about thirty of them. You got about thirty more. And

(41:25):
by the way, up to day. The reason we're doing
today is we gotta wait till up to date odds right,
And so we have those five hours leading up today.
And also we're gonna get you ready next week for
what is the right food for a big, big watch party?
I mean, do you do a watch party usual, annual
or is it a family thing or.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Ever come through? I'm a whoever come through kind of guy.
You go to parties? Or is it always in your house? No,
it's always at my crab.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
I have not been to someone else's house to watch
the Super Bowl in maybe twenty years. It's always at
my crib because I cook bomb food. Like I'm a
great I'm a chef, like I'm a dad chef. I'm
a home chef. So my food's great and I have
an array of things.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
We don't do just one thing save it. Yeah, okay, yeah. See.
By the way, by the way, I get going.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The man who sat here the last few years, Rich
Ornberg or another cook guy.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
You know, he's one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
You know he has the flamethrower with his barbecue like
a full on flamethrower, the charcoal.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I have, bitty. I gotta show you some time. He
pulled out this flame quick. We had We had like
like a little haibachi, right, and we took it out
of the parking lot of our radio station like this is.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
It was pitch dark as it was before our morning show.
It's like four five o'clock in the morning. He goes
like this and it was cooked to perfect.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Call slam. That's called flam bay. It's called man. It
was good.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Okay, So a lot of coaching news we got to
catch up on. I we got a ton not only
head coaching hires, but also some of these key coordinator hires.
I want to get to one that is near and
dear to you on both ends of the spectrum, and
that is the hiring of Mike McDaniel by the Chargers.

(43:12):
So he certainly had a lot of opportunities after getting
let go by the Dolphins. And you know, Dolphins decided
to turn the page despite the fact that they played
pretty well down the stretch. I mean, they got to
still figure out the quarterback situation everything else.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
But he comes to the Chargers, and when you think about.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Mike McDaniel, he really earned his rep with the forty
nine ers and really with one player, Deebo Samuel. So
Deebo Samuel was one of those hybrids that Mike McDaniel
figured out, like, I can use this guy not just
as a receiver, I can use him as a running back.
And that one year, Deebo Samuel was the talk of

(43:51):
the NFL. I mean he was a running back, he
was a receiver. I mean he was doing things statistically
we had never seen Beforeally for Deebo, he couldn't stay healthy.
Maybe overuseed by Mike McDaniel. But that's the thing about
Mike McDaniel. He's known for, you know, being very creative
with schemes, alignments, so that you know a lot of
different things that he can do.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
So let's let's look at the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
A team you know extremely well because you covered the
Chargers on a regular basis. You know that locker room,
you know everything else. Okay, I'm sure Jim Harbo is
going to stay out of his way. I mean he goes,
I'm hiring you because I know you can do the job, right,
I got other things to worry about. I'm gonna leave
you one hundred percent in charges. Okay, so let's talk

(44:35):
about the pieces they have and pieces they don't have.
That maybe Mike McDaniel's looking to fill in order to
execute the kind of offense that he has. So let's
get back to the quarterback position. From a talent standpoint,
there's no doubt that Justin Herbert has more talent than

(44:55):
any forty nine er quarterback that he coached or any
quarterback he had down in Miami. So how does he
transform Justin Herbert from being recognized as an elite regular
season quarterback who obviously has not performed so well in
his three playoff games today? But how is he going
to transform Justin Herbert to get him to another level?

Speaker 5 (45:19):
Well, he said in his press conference, we gotta take
we gotta take a lot, We gotta take some off
his load. This year was just too much Justin Herbert.
This year was too much. Pat Mahomes, this this year
was too much Jalen Hurts. Like there's some quarterbacks. It
was too much Josh Allen by the way, we haven't
even mentioned it. Find out he had a broken bone
in his foot. Yeah, like walked out, wont crutches in
the cast and everyone know what happened to you. Yeah,

(45:41):
I actually broke my foot the end of the season.
I played playoff games with you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
You know. Up you can talk about Josh Allen's Cordentils,
Hall of Fame and everything else, you cannot challenge the
fact that he is a competitor.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
He is a competitor. He is a leader on that field.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
I probably like him if he didn't play for the Bills,
but anyway, he You gotta take some pressure off of
Justin Herbert. You got to use some of these other weapons,
uh that they have here and the running game I
remember in San Francisco went just Deebo Samuel Mike mcdaniey
was the run game coordinator. And this is a team
that was going in the playoff games as a rusher
for over two hundred and seventy two hundred and eighty
yards against teams in playoff games. He coordinated that. He

(46:22):
was the running game coordinator in Washington. He worked the
running game when they were all in Atlanta together and
we saw Matt Ryan was his best when he did
what worked off play action because the running game was
so good. So this is what they're gonna want to do.
And I think this is why Jim brings the man.
What does Jim want to do?

Speaker 3 (46:35):
He wants to run the football. Of course he wants
to run them.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Now we got a guy who is specializing the Dolphins
this year. I kept throwing this up in people's face
and everybody was all that passing game ain't so good. Yeah,
showed you how great of a coach he is. We
lost Tarreek Hill. Passing game goes down.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
What is he then do?

Speaker 5 (46:52):
He turns around and makes the number one running back
in the league at yards but career five point eight
a pop for a so called bad offense.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It's a line. When you got a so called back
outfits a line and.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
You're running back is getting five point eight to pop
and leads the league. And he's gotta get a big deal, bro.
That's called coaching. That's called scheming. So I think he
needs to work with taking things off of justin Herbert's plate. Now,
they still gotta go get a few pieces. They're not set.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Ye, All right, let's started running back. So Hampton obviously
shows some prop, but he's gotta stay healthy, right, He's
got to stay healthy, which I think he will.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
You know, the NFL wakes some of these players up.
NFL wake someb of these players up. Everybody just can't
walk in his league and just be stuzzed like Ashing Gentz.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Right, sometimes you get a little banged up.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Okay, this isn't this isn't the ACC I played this,
This ain't Carolina Homeboy, this Ain'tchapel Hill.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
This is the NFL. These hits heard.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
These all these guys with a bomb in college. All
these guys were all stay and all that in high school.
So you get I think, I think he'll work through that.
Get him gone, lad McConkie, find ways to get him
the ball.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Okay, now this is something. Look at I get the
whole Keenan Allen thing. But Keenan Allen took away from
the guy that.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Is your future.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
But Knky, I mean that, I mean, I'm sorry, Keenan.
You set the Chargers records. Fine, it's time to retire.
We don't need you right now. We've got to take
this young guy. Well, you remember his playoff game against
the Texans two years ago when he catched like eleven
passes in that game. He needs to be that guy.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
But he was replaced essentially by the president. They let
him go. That shows you something. They let him go.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
He came back because things just didn't work out in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
But he came back. But also let me throw this
name at you too.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
Remember, Naji Harris, there's another power, shifty, fast, elusive back
that you could just get guys in space. His Mike
McDaniel's best trait was he just knows how to take
the players and put him in space.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Everybody knew Tyreek was getting the ball his first two
years there.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Everybody knew it could stop him getting eighteen hundred receiving yards.
Everyone in the building knew. But he schemed so well.
Number one, take pressure off of Justin Herbert was way
too much. Justin Herbert Hampton Naji Harris. I like those
guys mconkey, But once again, I know we want to
talk about was there, but they are. They are still
two little officsive pieces. He might get a fin of

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rookie in the third or fourth round that's got some speed.
Got some he found. I mean he found a chain rights.
A lot of teams had had a chance to drive
a chain. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
A reminder again, taking a job like this can get
you back in the mix. I will give you an
example Mike Shanahan. So Mike Shanahan was a young coach
mid thirties with the Denver Broncos. What even a coordinator?
The Raiders hired him as a head coach. He wasn't
really ready to be a head coach, and so he
gets fired. And then eventually he ends up with the

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forty nine ers as offensive coordinator and showed what he
was all about, and then the Broncos gave him the
job and the rest is history. They win a couple
of Super Bowls. So Mike McDonel's a young coach, he's
in his early forties.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
He knows that this you talk about a guy motivated
to get a job done.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
He knows he's got the pieces.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Now if I can show everybody that I can put
this team and take him next level. It's a great
hire by the Chargers because Jim Harbaugh says, I want
to motivated coach. I want a guy that really understands
that this is a golden opportunity for him personally to
get back in the mix, to get eventually a second
opportunity to be a head coach.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
And I forget though he was wanted by like five
or six teams this year, right, they weren't the right situation. No,
But the fact is, I don't think this job creates
another but coaching opportunity for him. There were four or
five teams that wanted to interview him. To Cleveland was
probably I guarantee this that's the guy Cleveland won it.
I guarantee that. All right, you mentioned Cleveland they wanted him. Okay,

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so they they ended up hiring their hire as one
of the most bizarre ones.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yes, no question about it. Todd Monkin. I mean, first
of all, Jim Schwartz is losing his mind. I mean
he thought for sure that, Okay, I'm the defensive coordinat.
I'm the only reason this team wins anything. Okay, let's
make it clear, right.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
The only reason this team's winning anything is my defense ends.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And you're gonna hire him, a sixty year old career
career assistant who honestly, if you look at his track record.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
What really stands out about him?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
That's Hotel Lamar won an MVP with him as the.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Guess what he won an MVP before here.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I know, it wasn't like Lamar suddenly emerged as an
MVP candidate.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
When this guy showed up, he already was an MVP.

Speaker 5 (51:32):
People said the same thing about Kyle Shanahan because he
was the OC the year Matt Ryan won his MVP.
I'm just saying that that was just like a feather
in Shanahan's cat.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Oh, he was the OC, you know, the year Matt.
That's why I'm throwing out, well.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Monkt Obviously as soon as he announced Monk and Schwartz says,
I'm out of here.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Well, yeah, he felt slight. Of course he did.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
He fell, He goes, I'm the one guy that is
I'm actually making a difference from a coach.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Was a head coach though, was like, what did he
do ahead at home?

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Well, unfortunately, let's talk about our Lions insider.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I'm just saying Jim Schwartz was not personal. I'm just saying,
let me ask good school. It has nothing to do
with individual talents, all right. How bad were the Lions
when he took over as their head coach?

Speaker 10 (52:15):
Well, I mean they had nothing. They were basically a
bombed out ruin an Owen sixteen team. Like I think
he did an advert. He took them to the playoffs.
I think he didn't addable job. My point is less
about any given talent. It's more that there once you
get fired from the Lion Detroit Lions. If you are
the Detroit Lions head coach and you get fired, you

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don't get another head coaching job period. That has been
the case for everyone who has taken that job since
the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yesecond about was Caul Well a head coach?

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
And his last head coach was with the Detroit Lions,
right Goldwell? Else, I'm thinking of Patricia Patricia way Way.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Everyone from the Bobby never got another gun on.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
The Bible hand on the Bible. This is a real stat.
I don't know where the cutoff is. It's either early
sixties Buddy Parker became yes, and I think he was
the last one right after that in the sixties. But
like no, no, George Wilson, George George Wilson became the
first coach of the Dolphins and morning Way technically but
he was like an interim. But if you were a

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full time head coach, not not in over fifty years
do you get another head coaching gig. I'm sorry to
Jim Schwartz, I think you should have it. I thought
he was gonna get hired after the job he didn't stuck.
He's also a taking time bomb and the personality that
is a.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah yeah, I mean, what the hell is wrong with you? Nature?

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Is one of those guys that you know, if you're
in an interview process, his intensity can be a little
off putting to certain people.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Don't you want that though? I hate I don't know, man,
I hate that. I really do hate that, because you
say you want things from people, and then when people
show it to you, you say you want talent. It
someone shows you talent. Now you're threatened by it. I'm sorry, Okay, yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
You know something I also hate is when you know,
you wipe with a piece of dry toilet paper and
wonder if this is as good as it gets?

Speaker 3 (54:11):
I hate that, right, you're like.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Manis well, but here's the good news.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
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Speaker 3 (54:34):
All right.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Some other interesting coaching hires around the NFL will break
it down.

Speaker 4 (54:39):

Speaker 1 (54:43):

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Harvin and Husky here and zon Er Radio. We're in
the Fox Sports Radio studios. A lot of NFL news
and with ten vacancies.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
This year, ten damn, ten damn, it's almost a third
of the league.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Crazy. But again, we talked about this at the top
of the show. Why are we seeing so many coaching
vacancies because of the two teams that are in the
Super Bowl this year, two teams that were not even
in the playoffs last year. Two hasn't happened in more
than twenty years where two teams face each other, both
of which were not in the playoffs the year before.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
So their owners are like, well, wait a second, if
New Egli could do it, if Seattle can do what
we can do, we just got to get the right
guy now.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
One of the interesting hires I thought, just because it
just seemed like really was the promotion of Joe Brady
from offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Head coach of the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So you fire Sean mcderbott, and you know, I get it, Like,
you know, there's a lot of circumstances. You know, a
bad call didn't help obviously for the Bills. A really
bad call on what a catch that was to set
up a game winning field goal, and they rolled it
was an interception.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
That was a catch, by the.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Way, folks, you mean like the catch that was in
an NFC championship game too.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, I mean that was a catch. He had two
hands on the ball, he went to the ground, he
was touched. What happens after that is irrelevant. It was
a bad call, eh, But I mean they'd sort of
but to promote from within tells me again that.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
That hire had everything to do with Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
We know that Josh Allen was in on the meetings
with all the coaching candidates and he decided, I'm most
comfortable with Joe Brady to be the head coach of
the Buffalo Bills. Now, Joe Brady's a little all over
the map if you look at his coaching resume, right,
I mean, he really made his name in at LSU.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
You know, the guy that sort of put Joe Burrow
on the map. And of course, I mean.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
You could make it. You can make an argument that that.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
LSU team of twenty nineteen could beat any college team
in the history of college football. I mean, they had
a perfect record. They beat more ranked teams that year
than any team in the history of college football. You're
talking about Jefferson and Chase as your two the two
thousand and one, Cayne's team would definitely be a challenge.

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When you're talking about Burrow throwing the Chase and Jefferson,
that's unmassed.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Even Terras Marshall. Terras Marshall was also there was a
fresh he was a young receiver.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yeah, no, I mean, look at it.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Alabama had some pretty unbelievable I mean, but I mean
the bottom line is that's where Joe Brady sort of
made his rep right and then you know, since then,
it's been really a mixed bag as far as Joe
Brady is concerned. Then he goes to Buffalo with a
proven quarterback. Do you give him any credit for Josh Allen?
Josh Allen was already a proven commodity. But anyway, that

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is their choice, and my guess on the surface of
that choice is nothing's going to change.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
To me. It just seems like a lateral move.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I mean, we see these lateral moves, and I think
the same thing we talked about last week about Mike
McCarthy taking over for Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh. I you know,
McCarthy to me is a respected veteran coach.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
You think that's a lateral move.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I don't think that they're gonna start winning playoff games
because McCarthy is the coach.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Not really in place. I think to me, you.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Think that he's You think he has a better resume
than Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
No, it's not about resumes. I'm simply zero in.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
What's he gonna do there? This have a much better offense?
That's for damn sure?

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Is he with a forty three year old Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
I'm going to back out on it. I think Aaron
Rodgers has done. It's a good it's a cool story.
They don't have a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Go get say, go get one Steve whoever he feels
like he can, he can mentor or whoever. Whatever happens
when somebody. I do believe Malik Willis is gonna be
out there. I do believe Trey Lance is gonna be
out There's some there's some quarterbacks, like every off.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Seasons theme that we don't know we're in. We haven't
even played the super Bowl yet. Come within the next amounth.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You honestly believe these guys could be elite franchise quarterback
if they get.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
In the right system and under the right guy that
knows how to develop a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Why can't they?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Okay, so you're saying Sam Darnold is now the example
that everybody else that if you get the right would
you a bot bit rubbing.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
In my face for the last ten weeks? Okay?

Speaker 5 (59:21):
This, so why can't it beat that for these other guys?
Trey Lance has talent. Let's not act like he doesn't.
Let's not act like he doesn't this. Did you see
his last game?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
I don't care about his last game.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I'm talking about I don't care about football, accurate, don't.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Care about the last game.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
As long as you get with someone that can help
you change those things. Mike McCarthy is the guy that
I believe could change a player.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
He can help a guy out. Why why not?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Why you're betting on McCarthy. I'm saying they're gonna be
ten games.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I'll give him ten wins.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Well, that's every year they win ten games. Well they
win nine or ten games. They won ten games this year.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
But I don't have a better offense.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Okay, we'll say that, but I mean, as far as
Joe Brady is concerned, what's gonna change in Buffalo. Nothing,
because he's already been in the locker room the last
couple of years. So you know, that's why we are
floating around the whole philip Rivers situation. Say, well, it
seems weird that you would hire a high school coach.
I'm like, forget that high school coaching stuff. Imip Rivers
just to me would bring a certain right, you know,

(01:00:21):
Oof to a locker room that's probably gone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
A little stale.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
How long would that last though? Because Oof doesn't win.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Games, well, you only need to win one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
If you're the Buffalo Bills, all you're hoping for is
one tie, just one time. Have the football gods smile
on us and give us a super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
That's all we want.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
You asked any Buffalo Bills fan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
If you threw this out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
To a Buffalo Bills fan, and I'm listening, that might
be listening right now. If I could throw this out
to you, I will guarantee you win the Super Bowl
this year. In exchange, he will have twenty consecutive losing seasons.
And you get that one super Bowl you sign up
for that. I know what the answer, Okay, I say

(01:01:04):
ten consecutive losing.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
SS right ten twenty bro because smer later that you're
a cowboy fan at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Although I will say this, when Denver won that last
Super Bowl, right, and they won that Super Bowl, Peyton
Manning could even hold this high, you know, you couldn't
throw the ball at all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Right, they win the Super.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Bowl and the strength of von Miller and the defense,
and then what happened ten straight years of being garbage?

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
I mean they literally fell off the map.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Now it's funny because if you go into that game
and say, all right, in exchange for winning the Super Bowl,
and of course obviously the Broncos had already won super Bowls,
but winning this super Bowl, especially after getting humiliated you
know a couple of years before by Seattle, you're going
to be a loser for the next eight or nine years.
And I'm sure every Broncos fans they sign me up.

(01:01:49):
And then reality said in right, and all of a
sudden it was like, wow, we are we are off.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
And let me add and that Super Bowl win eighty
six total offensive yards for the defense dominated completely destroyed
and it's never a super Bowl that we eat. The
only time we ever really talk about that Super Bowl
is when we want to is when we want to
crap on Cam Newton. The only time people ever bringing
that Super Bowl up was last time somebody mentioned Von
Miller on national radio.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
By the way, I'm glad you mentioned that, because coming
up in the next hour, I want to break down
your most memorable super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I got it, and both good and bad. And
I've got some of my own to talk about as well.
All right, let's find out what is a trending right now?
So manci uh, do you have any Super Bowls that
you've watched over the years that stand out in your lifetime?

Speaker 8 (01:02:43):
That stand out? I mean, like I feel like we
all remember the Seahawks Patriots Milcolm Butler.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
Yeah, Like that's one that you kind of just don't
holy moment.

Speaker 8 (01:02:54):
Yeah, And like I didn't care who won. I just
was like, did that just happen?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
Is that really how this game is gonna has?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Marsha Guys, I was doing a viewing party for that
Super Bowl. So I was at this restaurant and we
had a big.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Viewing party and there was a table of Patriot fans.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
It was like a family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
It was like eight to ten of them, all decked
out in their Patriots gear, and they were super nice.
You know, I don't root for the Patriots, but I
was just sort of you know, the seattle was going
right down. I'm like, oh, this is so bad for
you guys. Remember the miracle catch. And then Marshawn gets
to the one yard line and now the question is
should New England just let him score so that at

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least they have maybe some time left. So I'm sitting
there with his family literally like commiserating with him, like,
oh man, so close, so close, so close, And.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
Then looking at Belichick to Belichick, Belichick, there is that drive.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
There is no no excuse for that play. None, zero.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Not only that, think about this, when you're throwing a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Pass at that spot on the field over the line
for a quick pass and your quarterbacks five foot eleven,
just what that pass is a high trajectory because if
you have a six five quarterback, he's going to throw
it down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
But a five to eleven quarterback has to throw it
a little bit of a lob right, yes, which is
how that ball was intercepting Absolutely one quick last thing
question I've always wanted to ask people, is that passing offence? No,
if you know, if he's the ball he went you
go back and really look at that play, to.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
Look at the play and slow it down. So I
didn't think so at that moment. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
I thought I thought a flag was gonna come out
because he's right, he's going for the ball, but he
goes through the receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
But he was, he was he was going to go
back and watch that play, saying, yeah, he didn't push
the receiver away.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
He was going for the ball and bumped into the REI.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
I didn't at the moment, didn't think that at all.
Didn't think it was studying out terrific call.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Yeah, that's on Pete Carroll's resume along with this disaster
the Raiders.

Speaker 8 (01:05:08):
Yeah, well, I'll never forget that. I'll never hear of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yeah, yeah, right. Twenty thirty five feature Hall of Famer.

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
All right, guys, Well, it seems like Seahawks offensive coordinator
Clint Qbiac has a plan after the super Bowl because
nothing can be official until then, but he intends to
try to work out a deal to become the next
head coach of the Raiders, meaning the Arizona Cardinals are
the only team still looking for their coach if this
does happen and the three candidates left. According to multiple reports,

(01:05:41):
Rams offensive coordinator Mike Lafleura, Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver,
and former Falcons head coach Rahie Morris are the final
three for the Arizona card You should get the job,
you think so?

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
I thought he got shafted in Atlanta.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Yeah, yeah, all right. When it comes to the NBA. Guy,
No James Harden for my Clippers tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:06:02):
I'm very upset because they're taking on a very good
Phoenix team in Phoenix. Kawhi Leonard bogdan Bogdanovic are expected
to play Norman Powell for the Heat questionable tonight because
of personal reasons. That's why James Arden is out, by
the way, for personal reasons. The Heat take on the
Bulls tonight in men's college hoops. Right now, with about
ten minutes to go in the game, number twelve per
Due pulling away from Maryland seventy one to forty three. Also,

(01:06:24):
halfway through the second half, we're number twenty three Alabama
on the road losing to Number nineteen Florida sixty six
to forty seven, and late in the first half Number
eight Iowa leeds Kansas State twenty nine to thirteen. But
last night, I'm gonna give you guys a quick little
clip here Rick Barnes, head coach of Tennessee's basketball team,
who has been on.

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
Like a nice little streak as of the Lake. They
just won last night, but they still had fifteen turnovers.
So after the game, this is what he told the media,
just out of the turnovers and what the passes and all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
That against some of the passes that we flow, and
you just.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I don't know what to say other than sometimes I
wanted my guards are betting on games.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
I shouldn't say that, but you know that's.

Speaker 9 (01:07:10):
What I race said.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I don't want, but I just wonder what's to happen.
I mean, because I know there we're too good at
players to do that without a match.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I apologize I shouldn't have said that, but because i'm
but the fact is we've got it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:26):
We've got to get So he's wondering if that's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
First of all, Rick Barnes like one hundred years old.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, the guy has literally been coaching since I think
Nate Smith put up the peach baskets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
I mean, that's a lot of long this guy has
been around, to believe. He said, that's what happens when
you're like way too long to the party, like you
just lost your mind. That's a firewell offense.

Speaker 8 (01:07:49):
And everyone laughed.

Speaker 9 (01:07:50):
Nobody, nobody seemed that. I was surprised at how much
people like laughed about it. I thought it was going
to be more like, we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Know what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
But as a coach, and I love me some Rick Barnes,
I love me some Rick Barnes. That is a one
hundred percent fireble of fits because.

Speaker 8 (01:08:08):
You cannot joke about that chick there out there.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
There are people that think this stuff's rigged, and no
one believes in sports no more. And you honestly not legendary.
Can again legendary? Okay, he's a legendary damn basketball coach
in college basketball. Even jokingly that's like with some Bobby
Knight type stuff. He's, oh my god, I didn't know
he said that. That's a fire and I love the guy,
but if you're the ad there, you have to fire him.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Well, how about this here's the headline, Tennis basketball, Tennessee
Basketball's Rick Barnes shares hilarious comment, and that's.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
How it seemed like the reaction. I was surprised that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
He said it, as the headline cannot say that as
a college basketball coach.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
There's another headline that says, Rick Barnes awkwardly backtracks after
joking about Tennessee players betting on games.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (01:09:03):
I think the reason I'm shocked as well, like you
r VJ. Did he do it because they won?

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
So it was like, you know, I can joke about
it because we did win despite fifteen turnovers.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
You gotta read the rule.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
I mean, obviously this is all over the news right now,
right I mean, no.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
He had a brain fade. Old god, old man had
a brain fade. When he's he sixty seven, he's seventy one.
Oh hell, there he goes. That's all I need to hear.
Old PC, old people man, Old people don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Old people. Just you know, you want to know how
you want to know some of my things about your
new boyfriend or girlfriend, bring them around your old honor uncle.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
They'll tell you right there that baby. Leave her alone,
don't bring her don't bring her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Back to my house no more. Baby. Wow, all right,
I didn't know that. I'm actually shocked, Steve. Yeah, that
is Rick Barnes.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Yeah, okay, thanks my god, don't get the joke. Yeah, okay, ah,
I shouldn't have said that. You're right, Rick, you shouldn't
get delete that. They're like, no, you shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
You shouldn't have said that one. Thank you, monzie it.
We'll talk to you a little bit later on. Once again,
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you get your podcasts, you find today's full show posted
right after we get off the air. All right, we
are talking about some of these coaching hires, and this
one was one of my favorite ones. So Brian Dabele
was hired by the Titans to be their new offensive
courd absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:10:43):
And the guy that hire him is Robert Sala.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
So we are just talking a couple of years ago
that Robert Sala was the coach of the Jets and
Brian Dable was the coach of the Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
So the two New York coaches, the two guys that
feel the heat of being.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Coaches really in New Jersey. But I mean technically the
New York teams end up together. Now, I would imagine
from Sala's standpoint, if anyone could understand what he went
through as the Jets coach, it would be Brian Dable
having been the Giants coach. I'm very intrigued by this.
I mean, you know, I watched the Titans over the

(01:11:20):
course of the year. You know, cam Ward was a
rookie quarterback. He did some good things. He did a
lot of bad things, but I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
The talents got he definitely wasn't going backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I think cam Ward has certainly the ability to be
a franchise quarterback, not elite, but at least a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
So I'm very intrigued.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I mean, we know what Brian Dable did to help
Josh Allen become an elite quarterback in this league. You know,
when you go back to the whole Daniel Jones situation
with the Giants, it's really hard to really find out
what happened there. Of course, getting rid of Saquon Barkley
didn't help the situation for the Giants. I mean, I

(01:12:01):
don't understand that first year, you know, they make the playoffs,
they win a road playoff game against the Vikings. Things
looked like they were good. They signed you know, Daniel
Jones to a contract. It would seem like Dable was
doing the right thing, and then the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Wheels fell off, completely fell.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Off for him to get fired.

Speaker 4 (01:12:20):
But as an offensive coordinator, I just like this.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
I like this whole matching up of two guys that
just a couple of years ago were the two New
York coaches now teaming up in Tennessee with less spotlight
and maybe just getting back to the core of who
they are as coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Well not just only the core who they are as coaches.
I had five when I text this out to you,
I wrote down five coaching moves that I thought with
a top five coaching move. This was number five to me. Yeah,
I started right here and I told you, guys, Sala's
going to get a job.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Oh no reason, Yes, yes, you were on that one.
I didn't know you was Sala's going to get a job.

Speaker 5 (01:12:52):
Guys, Look, look exactly what the defense looked like with
San Francisco. Look at what the dad defense was with
the Jets. He just Zach Wilson as his quarterback. He'd
have a quarterback, he had a DFA.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
He had Annon Rodgers. Well, yeah, we have breaking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 9 (01:13:13):
According to multiple reports, the Cardinals plan to hire Mike
Lafleur as their next head coach, finalizing still working a
five year deal. NFL Network ESPN both tweeting about it
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
All right, so Koobiak is going to be the next
coach of the Raiders, what it seems like after the
Super Bowl and the Floor is the coach now of
the Cardinals.

Speaker 8 (01:13:33):
That's what it seems.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
So those are the last two vacancy.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
To systematic guys, not culture guys. So we'll see how
that works out. Just just two three years from now,
let's check in on those two hires systematic guys again, guys,
Well we don't know that, okay, Well, all right, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
I mean, did you think mcdan a McDonald was going
to be that kind.

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Of absolutely because he comes from a culture coach Harball,
Jim Harball is a coulture guy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
You know that.

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Jim Jim Harball's I know you don't like on, but
Jim Harball is a coach, a guy we can't do.
We can't do that, Steve, come on, that's a coachre
guy again. Anywhere he goes, he changes way back to coaching.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Then Redskins hired this obscure offensive coordinator that really wasn't
the off coordinator for the Chargers because Don Coreo was
running the offense. Some anonymous guy named Joe Gibbs coacher.
And his first year they started zero to five and
they were just like, get that rid of this guy.
He ends up eight to eight that first year, wins
the Super Bowl the next year. Now he's in the hall.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
But what did he create there? Man? Come on, the coach.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
These guys are going to create all. You don't know
that until they actually get the opportunity. All right, on
the other side, we'll continue on here with the coaching carousel.
Now that apparently all ten vacancies have been filled. Wow,
this is end Zone Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
End Zone Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Harvin and Husky with you here. When the Fox Sports
Radio studios our miner again. Next Sunday, there's a big
game going on, and.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
We are gonna lead you all the way up pretty
much to kickoff five hours now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
It is nothing we are We are going to give
you the full game day experience next Sunday, full game
day experience, so you can max out the whole big
game day, you know, talk about food, talk about prop bets,
talk about all the fun stuff that go along with
the big game.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Can I one.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
Can we talk about anticipation of commercials?

Speaker 11 (01:15:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Absolutelys. Anticipation of commercial we'll talk about that, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Coming up in the next hour, we're going to share
some of our personal memories of memorable Super Bowls. Okay,
I have actually showing you how old I am. I
actually watched the second Super Bowl. I didn't watch the
first one, but I watched the second one between the
Oakland Raiders and the Green Bay Packers, then known as

(01:16:00):
the AFL NFL Championship Game.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
I was nine years old, nine and a half years old.

Speaker 6 (01:16:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
And I not only did I watch that game, but
on a piece of paper, I wrote the score down
of the game underneath the previous score.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
So there were two games. So and I wanted you know,
I was always doing my stat work at an early age.
So I actually it was thirty three to fourteen Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Beat the Oakland Raiders. I had that written on a
piece of paper.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
My first Super Bowl ever watched was a Raiders game
a gas the Redskins.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Yeah, oh there you go. Mother had just been transferred
to the Pentagon. I will share a story about that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Yeah, well, we'll share some Super Bowl stories over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Coaching.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
By the way, getting back to Sean McVay, here are
you talk about a coaching tree.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Right with the apparent hiring a Mike Lafloor.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
So yeah, Matt Laflor, Mike Lafloor, Zach Taylor, Brandon Staley,
Liam Cohen.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Right there, there's a just future tree. That's a tree.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
That's a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I mean, these are all guys that were coordinators of
his or top level assistants that ended up getting Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
There's another one, right, I mean, it's pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Impressive to think about a guy just celebrated his fortieth birthday.
Now again, he worked under Mike Shanahan. And if you
want to go back, I mean you can think about
you know who was well, Mike McDaniel was a guy
that also they were together watching.

Speaker 5 (01:17:30):
Back and you could put Kyle and right laflora greenback.
After three of those guys were together. He used to
have wars in their meeting room because they were all
fighting to get their plays in before they all became
you know, coordinator.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
So that that era of the early twenty tens under
Mike Shanahan. So uh yeah, I mean, he's he's got
a pretty impressive tree. But that explains I mean, and really,
when you think about it, the success of Sean McVay
changed the whole dynamic of the coach coaching hires. Oh yeah,
they weren't afraid to hire these thirty something guys thirty
one exactly to be a thirty He was the youngest

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coach in the history of the NFL at the time.
So yeah, it's called the Sean McVay effect. And now
the Cardinals are hoping they.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
Picked the right guy. We'll see if that's going to
happen again.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
It looks like Clint Kubiak, who is not out of
the Sean mcvega three, is going to be the next coach.
Gary Son, Gary Sun, who by the way, is a
Super Bowl winning coach.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
He sure is when he's a backup to John Elway
for the Broncos Gary Kolbiac.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
All right, so now that do we have filled the vacancies.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
And again it's not official yet as far as Kubiak
is concerned, because obviously he is still getting ready to
be the coordinator for the Seahawks and the upcoming Super Bowl,
but all signs are he will be the next coach
of the Las Vegas Raiders. So what would you say
is your least favorite hire of these ten hires for

(01:18:55):
these folk vacancies.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
I agree with you, the Browns dead.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
I don't understand well because I don't like I don't
want to make it sound like I'm trying to like
crap on the Browns, but it almost kind of feels
like the guy that goes to the prom with the
third girl on this list, Like the first chick is
with the star quarterback, the second shorty is going with
the star basketball player, so you have to settle for

(01:19:19):
the third girl from the debate team.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Well, you just fired a guy that had no problem
finding another job immediately immediately. Stefanski is a two time
NFL Coach of the Year. He had obviously some highs
and lows, and maybe you know they just I mean
it just again. We get back to organizations. When you
have organizations that can sistently find ways to lose, or
in the case of the New England Patriots, find a way.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
To rebound, rebound, it goes to the top and they
ate two straight, four and thirteen seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
The Patriots did, Yeah, they did.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
They sucked it up and they ate it because they said, hey, listen,
we dominated for twenty years, but let's take these twenty
four months.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Let the we'll get it right back. But the firing
of Mayo one of their all. It was basically they said, look,
we made a mistake, made a mistake. We should have
hired Vabel in the first place. They don't linger when
they they recognize their mistakes. So knock a mail, hopefully
get another opportunity down the road. But they knew he

(01:20:16):
was not the right guy, and so I think give
him another two or three years. No, he wasn't the
right guy, but they bring him Vrabel and now they're
in the super Bowl. Crazy Dabo sala I have McDaniel
already talked about him. I thought Jesse Minta to be
more is gonna be really good. I did like Halfley
to the Dolphins, not because I'm a fan, but only
because the GM comes with them, right like, and so
I think that's a good combination. Then the number one

(01:20:37):
you know on my list, Harball to the Giants they
win ten eleven games, then he's he's gonna win ten
eleven games next year for the Giants. I'm telling you,
hear guys, I cannot wait to see you. And I
say I told you John harbuz the most overrated.

Speaker 5 (01:20:49):
You can't Scott this in a text message.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Man. We're gonna celebrate the big game coming up on
end Zell Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Listen, Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Fun, fun, fun, That's all we do every single Sunday
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Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
And Husky end Zone Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
We just have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Why not, Oh what are we doing? We're talking sports man.
That's all we do here here on Fox Sports the Radio.
And at this time of the year, there's just so
many things to talk about. Our focus though, is the NFL.
That's what we're all about here on end Zone Radio.
And we have so many great stories who have been
talking about. So the Big Game is next Sunday. We're
gonna do five hours leading up to the game. So

(01:21:30):
we're gonna get you set with everything. Well of all
the prop bets, talk about the food and everything else.
What else did you want to commercial? Commercial?

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
By the way, I will say this all right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So I have been very fortunate over the years to
be credentialed for many super Bowls, twenty six to be exact,
where I've actually been credentialed for the game. Now that
doesn't mean I've been to twenty six Super Bowls. I've
actually only stayed for four. I've actually been in the
stadium for super Bowls. The reason that I did that,

(01:22:03):
and I'll be perfectly honest. So my normal routine for
years and years and years covering super Bowls of VJ
is they would send me and my partners to cover
the Super Bowl and we would really cover the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
We were just sitting on radio row.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
I mean we would go out, we'd seek out the players,
do interviews, really give you a great build up for
the games to be done, and then would fly back
so that we could get paid to host a Super
Bowl party for the station. There you go, Yeah, you're
double dipping, so to basically do so that was the
routine I had for many, many years. I will say

(01:22:37):
this about the four Super Bowls that I actually was
in attendance for. So if you've never been to a
Super Bowl and you're like, wow, man, I love to
be at a super Bowl. Of course, the prices are
outrageous and I did not have to pay to go
to Well, that's not true. The first Super Bowl that
I attended VJ was Super Bowl nineteen Joe Montana versus

(01:22:59):
Dan Marino turn out to be Dan Marino's only Super Bowl.
It was my first year working for the Raiders, and
I found out at the end of the year that
as an NFL employee at that time, I could purchase
two Super Bowl tickets at face value. The face value
on these tickets. The game was at Stanford Stadium when

(01:23:20):
they had bleacher seats. Okay, I mean they were just
trying to squeeze as many bodies into the game as
they could, especially with the forty nine ers in the game.
You can imagine Stanford Stadium. So the tickets were sixty
dollars each. That was the face value on those tickets,
sixty dollars each. So me and one of my buddies,
I wasn't marry, I was just hanging out as twenty

(01:23:42):
six years old. We drove drove from LA up to
Stanford Stadium. I'd been up there actually several times for
usil A football games over the years, and my lasting
memory of that game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
The game was a blowout.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Forty nine Ers annihilated them, got off to big early
lead and never let up. Roger Craig, by the way
in that game three touchdowns. One of the reasons he
should be in the Hall of Fame, absolutely, and no
one could have dreamt that that would be Marino's one
and only visit. It was the second hear in the league,
had broken all the records that year that he would
never get back to the Super Bowl. But my lasting

(01:24:15):
memory of that game had nothing to do with the
game itself. It was halftime and my buddy and I
were going to go to the long concession lines to
get a beer and you know, some food and everything else.
And there was the line for the ladies room at
Stanford Stadium, and this line stretched half the stadium. Now,

(01:24:41):
they were ill equipped to handle that many people, especially
ladies coming to the actual game.

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Sounds like it so along.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
The side of the stadium that they were all standing
were a bunch of shrubs, you know, like foliage, and
I witnessed at least half a dozen women relieving themselves
in the bushes because they couldn't stand in line any longer.
At least half a dozen, probably more. I just stopped
looking after a while. That was my lasting memory of that,

(01:25:14):
my first Super Bowl game that I actually attended. Here's
what I would say about attending a Super Bowl game.
I feel like those are four games I missed because
to me, watching the Super Bowl is the entire experience.
You talk about the commercials, you talk about the commentary,
you talk about all the things that come along to

(01:25:37):
as we sit down and usually watch Super Bowls that
are missing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
When you go to a super Bowl, it is like
going to a game.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
And in the case of the games that I went to,
I really didn't have much of a rooting interest except
the last one because I was working for the Charger station.
Chargers got blown out by the forty nine ers, and
you know, I had a rooting interest in that game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
But outside of that, I'm just saying observer. So I
feel like I missed the game.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
So I ask you, I mean, is is that something
that you I mean, if the Miami Dolphins are in
the Super Bowl and you are going to pay huge
money to be at that game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Is that worth it to you to say I was
at that game? What capacity am I there? You're as
a fan? No, I'm not talking about it as a
working night.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
No, no, No, I totally want to go as a
working guy because I want access. If I'm a fan,
I got to walk in. But you can't root as
a media member. You can't be sitting here cheering in
the press box.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Her. Yeah, I've heard about that was super rule before. Well,
I know, and that's why I don't like press boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I've heard about it from when I going back to
when I was Sports center at UCLA. First time I
ever covered a game at UCLA, I was a nineteen
year old sophomore, right, and I'm in the press box
at the at the Colisee and back in the day
and during the game, I didn't know the protocol and
one of the UCLA running backs breaks into the open
I jump up, go jail go to jail out. And

(01:27:03):
then I looked over and the senior guys on the
daily brol and look at me, and I'm like, sit
the f down.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
I'm like I can't root in the press box. Why
do I want to be up here? I know I've
heard about that rule.

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
I've covered the Dolphins, I've covered my Pistons, I've covered
my tar Hills, I've covered my my Rangers. I've covered
all you jumped up and down screaming. I don't jump
up and down screaming hall like a fan. But I
don't sit there like some smug with my hands on
my lap under the table, like fist pumping at the table.
I have a way of kind of saying or cheering
or just everybody, but everyone there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Seriously, if you went to a Dolphins Super Bowl and
they're winning, like winning this game, and you have to
sit there pretty much behave in the wouldn't you rather
be with a crowd and just whooping it up out
of your mind.

Speaker 5 (01:27:53):
I've done that before, covering the game, covering one of
my I'm not gonna say the game, I've covered one
of my teams.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
I've left the press box at half. Okay, there you
go and went and found like an.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Mpcsolutely stand on the concourse where the security sees you
to see you have your credential on. They'll let you
lay Dodger games. Right the yellow benches, those are great
places to go sit. If you don't get a seat
upstairs in the press box, just go find one of
the yellow metal benches and on the middle concourse, right
behind home plate. No one's sitting there, you mean, then
you can sit there and kind of you know, just

(01:28:22):
not yelling screen. But you don't have to play the
silence all right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
In my course of my four decades in this business,
I have never ever called myself or considered myself a
sports journalist.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
I am a fan in front of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
A mic, right, that is what I am. Right, I'm
a fan on you know, on television. People, every time
I reference UCLA, I always say my br runs. That's
just every single.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Night you're supposed to that is my team.

Speaker 5 (01:28:47):
Every time I see an NFL play, do you guys
hear me sound on the red Michigan Like I throw
it out there?

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Like what do I tell you all the time? I
love your loyalty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I'm gonna you know where I have to agree.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
With it, But I mean you have but paying an
observerant price for a ticket for paying no, I'm not
if I can't know. I want to be there as
an employee. That way, I can get down to the
field pre game. Yeah, I got postgame for interviews. I
can walk in the back of the tunnels. I can
go up to any player. I can walk on the
field and while they're doing their trophy celebration and stand,

(01:29:22):
you know, maybe twenty thirty yards away whatever, but I
can I can say, yeah, I was at the game.
Oh you wants a fan, NW, dude, I covered the game.
I much rather say I covered the Dolphins in the
Super Bowls than say I went to the game. Going
to the game, Yeah, I'm a regular fan. I'm just like,
I'm just like everybody else here. No, No, I'm special
today because I get to say, oh, no, dude, I
was on the field when they raised the trophy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
I was there. I was on I was in the
locker room with them, dudes smelling the champagne. Bro was everywhere.
My suit got stupid wet.

Speaker 11 (01:29:53):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
I much rather have that story than yeah, sat in
the section two nineteen. They were good seats. It was cool.
I paid thirty seven dollars for a hot dog. And
I don't know. I still like to go to games.
I like I like going to games, special games.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
So much to haven't been as a fan in so long,
stee because I'm covering everything I think of, like strange,
like it wasn't a Super Bowl, but it was. It
was like that was that se Texas Rosebult game.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
So I was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
I was covering the game, so I was, But I
was on the field at the end of the game.
I was literally standing on the field as Vince Young
ran in for the touchdown. I was standing literally on
the Texas sideline. So Matthew McConaughey was there, Roger Clemens
was there. I'm standing with all of these story guys
and yeah, those And by the way, one of the

(01:30:42):
things that thing I remember about that game was long
after the game because I had obviously been down in
the locker room and everything else.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
I mean, SC's thirty four game winning streak was over.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
But to get back, I had to walk back into
the stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
And it was empty except for I saw one loan
figure all all the way at the other end zone.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Some guy it was.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
He was in regular clothes and he was sort of
picking up stuff off the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
Grass and I'm walking so I'm walking toward this guy,
and I'm like, what is this guy doing? He turns
as Matthew McConaughey and else where you're gonna meet anything.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
I'm picking grass off of the field right as a
souvenir of the greatest day of my life as a
Texas football fan. I didn't know those are the kind
of things. Yes, I did the second USC game this year.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Do you know? I almost I do know when he's fainted.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
But you get a little lightheaded when you walk down
from the press box down to the field and you
realize this is a dirt track. Yes, I got all
my car I got on my Carolina Blue Jordan ones, Like,
oh my god, okay, no problem, and I get to
walk up to the ramp. Yes, that they come run
out of like that to me was way better than

(01:31:55):
sitting in the stands being forced out by the security
after the game is over, be made to leave the
stadium and go home. I literally stayed there till like
eleven thirty that night, just the soaka it. I sat
there in one end zone and just looked up at
the end zone that's got the steps with the torch going,
and just stared at it, like because I would when
am I ever going to be able to stand here?

(01:32:17):
I can come to I could come to the stadium,
but when am I ever going to be able to
stand in the end zone. I'm standing where it says
USC like I watched Gods score here earlier tonight and
now I'm looking up at this And not only that,
I don't care if we lost the game.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
I told you guys that the next day Michigan was here. Today.
I was like, I covered that game. I wasn't at
the game. I understand covered that game there. You know,
I have obviously hundreds of them right where. Yeah, those
moments like yeah, man, like I was actually there there.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
I was like, I talked to him after the game, like, oh, yeah,
hit the game when the show you I talked to.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
Him in the back hallway after the game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Well, and then what we share with everybody out there,
wishing that, yeah, they would have that opportunity to stories.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
I wish I exactly, bro, And that's the one guy
I missed out on.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
I've seen him play live.

Speaker 5 (01:33:05):
I've been I've been in his hands, I've seen him
score thirty eight, but I've never gotten a chance to
stay in the press conference or in the room or
just pass him in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
I had the rare opportunity to literally have one on
ones with him, many of them. I mean, I don't
know what There's something about me because I was sort
of like the was part of my shtick was to
be the anti Kobe on the on the Lakers Station,
even though you weren't go. I was working with Michael
Thompson and Victor Brigg Jacobs who were kissing his ass
twenty four to seven.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
And so I was ill Michael to the extreme, and
I was the true story.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
The day after he scored eighty one, day after he
scores eighty one, we come on our show where the
Lakers Station. I opened the show and I said, well,
another disappointing two assists night for ballhowk Bryant last night.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Wow, that's how I opened the.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
Showah sleepck and Michael went absolutely bonkers.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Should have.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
So that's how I opened the show. Another disappointing two
assist night for Ballhog Bryant last night, and it was
humored by it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
And oh yeah, absolutely. He told me many ties to
my face. Man, I love what he did. He didn't care,
Oh he that's the way he loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
And he would pick me out of the crowd like
you know, he just he just he was Everyone else
was always kissing his ass twenty four to seven.

Speaker 5 (01:34:24):
And you can actually say that you helped motivate Coleby,
because I'm sure he took things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Okay, I know we're getting a little sidetracked, but this
is too sorry. So the year that ultimately be the
year where they acquired Palgasol and everything change right mid season.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
But at the start of that year he wanted out.
Oh yeah, made it clear.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
In fact, I remember they wanted to do a deal
or he wanted to go to the Bulls. That was
sort of where he wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
But he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
He didn't want them to give up Lluell Dang like
he wanted to play with Lowell Dan. So they opened
the season. The Lakers opened the season at home against
I believe with the Rock against Rock, and I am
in the locker room talking him just one on one.
I have no idea that we're actually on camera because
there's coverage of it and they're shooting Kobe. Obviously they

(01:35:11):
don't know who I am, but they're shooting Kobe talking
to this guy, and if they could hear my conversation
because I said to him.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
It was just he would talk to me face to face.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
I said, you know, there is one person, there is
one person that has all the answers to all your questions.

Speaker 4 (01:35:27):
And he's like, who is that? I go, It's the
person that you look in the mirror at every single day.
You know in your heart exactly what is the right
thing here. So this is the conversation he and I
were having. So when you would have those moments and
he was he was super bright, he was super I
loved him. I absolutely loved him, and I knew and
he knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
That's why he was so humored by you every time
I would go sideways on him, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
So anyway, that a side, Hi, I want to hear
about your favorite super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
I want everybody here in our team to share they're
all time favorite super Bowl that they watched. Why was
it your favorite super Bowl?

Speaker 4 (01:36:10):
We'll have that coming up. This is End Zone Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Oh wait a second.

Speaker 4 (01:36:19):
You do understand that this song is part of my legend.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
There was a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Sponsor that I used to sing to this song for years.
I can't say it because they're not a sponsor. Now,
but wow brings back memories this every day? All right,
once again, we're the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (01:36:42):
But did you dance as well as Christopher Walkin? No?
I did not, never, never, never, never, No rhythm in
these feed all right, End Zone Radio, Harbin and Husky
with you.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
All right, So I gave you guys a heads up.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
We're gonna start with Shane Chris Shanan today and we
went to hear Monci as well. So I want to
ask you all about your most memorable Super Bowl. It
doesn't mean it was the best game or the worst game.
I'm talking about your most memorable Super Bowl experience. When

(01:37:18):
you think about a you know, a big game Sunday,
what was the most memorable for you? Let's let's start
with Shae because I think Shay is ready to roll
on this one. Shaye, what was your most memorable Big
Game Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:37:33):
I didn't have a lot of options to pick out
of the hat, to be honest, so it was very
easy for me to choose mine. Most Super Bowls have
been pretty boring for me, but there was one time
where it was still boring, but I did end up
winning the boxes and that was when New England came
back to beat the Falcons. Wow that yeah, and all

(01:37:53):
the time, and I was very happy actually that the
Falcons were up because I actually had money line on
the Falcons. And then I didn't even know that my
boxes won at the end of the game, and then
I was very upset. And then in the end I
had more money than I would have been on the
money line.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
I was going to ask you, so you actually with
the boxes won more money than if the Falcon said
won the game out.

Speaker 7 (01:38:12):
Right the boxes, I made a thousand with the money line,
I would have made like eight hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Good questions. Sorry, I'm really dumb at this is box
the same thing as squares? Exactly?

Speaker 7 (01:38:20):
Okay, just just making sure exactly so if the listeners
don't know what box or square is, it's a It's
a game that you usually play on stright.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
So your most memorable Sunday is about winning more money
than you actually anticipated with exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
And it's pretty sad. But I haven't been in a
Super Bowl yet. I like the honesty of that.

Speaker 10 (01:38:38):
That Super Bowl. I think I spent that in like
a bowling alley. I got invited out to bowling because
my friends were like oh, we're not going to watch
the Patriots do this. And then I started hooting and
hollering in the in the in the lounge, just because
I'm like, you know what, I don't even care.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
It's the Patriots. They're coming back from this many points down.
Get well. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
This is still the most amazing thing about that game
was they were down nineteen yep, and they kicked a
field goal at the start of the fourth quarter. You're like, really,
you're not gonna go for you're down nineteen, and then
they're like, well that cut. That makes it a two
score game. I got like, really, they're gonna get two
touchdowns and to two point conversions. Of course, that's exactly

(01:39:15):
what they did at the point, which was unbelievable, the unbelievable.
All right, Chris, what is your most memorable big game Sunday? Yeah,
this was like the last Super Bowl. I remember having
like a big party four two and it was Super Bowl.
Let me make sure my my Roman numerals are still good.

Speaker 10 (01:39:33):
Forty seven all right, what's the Yeah, that would be
Ravens and forty nine ers right New.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
Orleans in the super Dome the blackout.

Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
Yes, I was going to say that sticks out of
my memory tremendously because I spent a lot of time
on Twitter yaking about you know, the the the the blackout.
But that was also like, you know, Colin Kaepernick was
in the super Bowl. That was Joe Flacco's super Bowl there,
Beyonce did the halftime show. It was a it was
just a tremendous all around experience. It felt new and

(01:40:02):
refreshing because it was the Super Bowl without the uh,
the Patriots. It was a you know, and the forty
nine ers back in the mountaintop and the Ravens hadn't
been there for a while. It was new, fresh, fun.
The storylines were great and just the entire all the
commer I barely remember the commercial at this point, but like,
it was like a fun super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20):
Well, I mean it was just amazing. Two brothers coaching
a yeah, the horrible the Harry was I mean even
one of the odds of that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
It's just unbelievable, all right. I like that, I manci
your most memorable Big Game Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:40:34):
I feel like I had to.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
I was like, oh my gosh, the one that Chris
just mentioned is memorable for me, not just because of
Beyonce and because of the blackout.

Speaker 8 (01:40:42):
I was at a party. But that was the last
time I had read meat. I had ribs. That was
the last time I had read meat or any you
know what I mean. Because I became a veget I
started to do That's why, Like I just like like
I just remember having like ribs and I that was
like the last.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Let's slow down, sew When you say ribs, ribs can
be a lot of different things.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
Now were they pork ribs?

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
Where they beef ribs where they lathered and lathered.

Speaker 9 (01:41:09):
And sauce and big, big and big like my like
my one of my best one of my best friends, John, Hey, John,
he made them like you know what I'm saying. And
I was already like starting to like cut meat out
and I was like little and he was like you
have to try it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
And I was like, this is going to be the
last time that I have me How was it? I mean, coous, ridiculous, delicious.
So I'll never forget that Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
I love that, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
So those are memorable super Bowls there, all right, VJ.
You got a lot of Super Bowl Sunday, a lot
of big game Sundays. What is the most memorable big
Game Sunday for you.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
The most memorable Big Game Sunday for me was the
Redskins blowout of the Broncos because it gave Doug Williams
his Super Bowl and became the first African American quarterback
in the NFL. And I remember how proud my mother was,
who served the United States Army, was a colonel in
the Pentagon, and how teary eyed she had gotten in
that game. And I didn't I didn't understand. I'm looking

(01:42:05):
at her on the sofa, like, why is mom tearing up?
Her and my step pops Glenn were very emotional about it.
They're very very pro black as far as black quarterbacks,
and at that point I I kind of got the
gist of what was going on and what was happening,
because to me, it was just, hey, Jay Traders hurt,
They're gonna played his quarterback, and as a kid, you
just don't know any better. I believe I might've been
in a fourth or fifth grade in that game too.

(01:42:27):
But I also just remember the Broncos scored on the
first play. Again, Yeah they did, Ricky, They're ricking until
they play action to Sammy's Sammy sewell play action to him,
and John Elway just cuts it loose and hits Ricking
until they score. And you're like, oh man, here we go.
And Sammy Winder or she it's either sul or Winder.
They were They're both on that team though, Sammy Sueller

(01:42:49):
or or Sammy Winder the running backs on our on
that team. But then they get a field goals tend
to nothing at then in the first quarter, and then
the Redskins go and score thirty five points in one
second quarter alone, four touchdowns.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
Ricky Ricky Ricky Irvis. I believe it was Are No, no, no, no, no, Notricare.

Speaker 5 (01:43:07):
Ricare was Ricky Non catches for the one ninety three
two touchdowns, Ricky because they had That was the posse.
That was Art Monk, Gary Clark, Ricky Sanders, Ricky Sanders
is Ricky Sanders.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
That was the posse. That was the name of that
receiving corps. They were. They were.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
They were the three the three court set receivers before
there was ever really a three court set receivers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
You do still know that in that game, with all
the attention to Doug Williams, the all times single game
Super Bowl record for rushing yards in the game was
set and it's still the record. Two hundred four yards
rushing by Timmy Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
Timmy Smith, Timmy Smith a completely a non amatical.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
He was a rookie that year and he gained two
hundred four yards rushing in that game, which is still
to this day the single game rushing record for the
Super Bowl and I will never be broken out two four.

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
And then, like I said, Sanders nine catches for one
ninety three, two touchdown. It's crazy. Doug Walliams throws four
touchdowns nine.

Speaker 5 (01:44:05):
You mentioned that, but that game, that yeah game, you
were what you say, fourth grade, So I was like,
I was probably enterprise elementary.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
So this is January of eighty games, January eighty eight,
So there it is there. That game was in San
Diego for Super Bowl played in San Diego. I was
working for the Raiders at that time, and my viewing
party for that one I was with a bunch of
my buddies.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
I was so wasted that day.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
I remember the deal touchdown right right off the bat,
there is touchdown down, like I'm glad they're gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
During that second quarter, I am in a sea of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
I mean, we're just obliterated, and I kept looking up
and like another Washington touchdown, touchdown, and I was I
was so out of it. It's like I thought I
was like having like this deja vu experience that I was.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
Literally real reliving the same bat over again. That's funny.
I was completely obliterated for that Super Bowl. But yeah,
I'm umblella day for Washington that day. All right, well
I'll share mine on the other side. But first, that's
why I was trending right now from someone that So your.

Speaker 8 (01:45:15):
Last red was.

Speaker 9 (01:45:19):
Ri I mean, yeah, me, you ate with some rig Yeah,
they were like falling off the you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:45:28):
Yeah, no, no, like some sometimes like you know what
I miss j Chicken Wings, like.

Speaker 9 (01:45:38):
Yeah, hot lemon, all of it the way like Chick
fil a and Wingstop.

Speaker 8 (01:45:47):
Are you ever going to eat?

Speaker 3 (01:45:49):
You don't, I don't think.

Speaker 8 (01:45:49):
So like I don't. I don't. I got yeah, Like
sometimes I'm like, oh.

Speaker 11 (01:45:52):
You know, but like I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
He here's the thing about here's the thing about ribs.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
I'm not a huge sweet skuy. So when you get
a lot of that's not it's just too sweet for me.
I love a really good dry rub yeah, you know,
so I'm really getting the meat, but no sauce.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
No, no, not.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
I mean it's not that I want to have the sauce,
but to me, it's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
It's just too sweet.

Speaker 8 (01:46:17):
I agree, barbecue over powers a lot of flavor, and these.

Speaker 4 (01:46:20):
Rips the meat, the meat is that I want to
taste the meat.

Speaker 9 (01:46:24):
It was like I tasted and everything, like I didn't slap,
you know, I didn't feel like I was just having barbecue.

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
You don't have to slab for it with sauce, but
a dry robin and as you pull the rib off,
it's okay to have a little cup of sauce and
dig the rib.

Speaker 8 (01:46:37):
You have to pour it all over it. Yeah, but
you got to Yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
Guys, really good. Understand what you mean.

Speaker 8 (01:46:44):
It's like, yeah, no barbecue straws, especially if the rib
is like, you know, fall up and it was falling
off the box. It was falling off.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Control.

Speaker 8 (01:46:54):
What are we talking about? Food is still okay, guys.

Speaker 9 (01:46:59):
It seems just as though the coaching carousel has come
to a close in the NFL. The Cardinals are planning
to hire a rams offensive coordinator, Michae.

Speaker 8 (01:47:09):
Laflora, to be their next head coach.

Speaker 9 (01:47:11):
This was reported after we found out that Seahawks offensive
coordinator Clint Qbiac intended to try to work out a
deal to become the next head coach of the Las
Vegas Raiders. None of that can become official until after
the Super Bowl. Then, following these two moves, we heard
that the forty nine Ers are hiring former Falcons head
coach Rahie Morris to be their.

Speaker 8 (01:47:31):
New defensive courtinet.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
So just yes, that's fine, cool.

Speaker 8 (01:47:38):
Right away. Yeah, So that's that has happened. Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:47:43):
Other NFL news, ESPN reports that former Titans head coach
Brian Callahan is a candidate for the Giants offensive coordinator position,
and former Chargers offensive coordinator Greg Roman is going to
have an.

Speaker 8 (01:47:55):
In person interview with the Jets for their offensive coordinator position.

Speaker 9 (01:47:59):
When it comes to the NBA, Clippers will be without
James Harden tonight due to personal reasons as they take
on the Suns in Phoenix for the heat. Norman Powell
is questionable, also for personal reasons, as they take on
the Bulls. In men's college hoops number nineteen Florida kind
of crush number twenty three Alabama one hundred to seventy
seven was the final score there. And when it comes

(01:48:21):
to golf at the Farmer's Insurance Open, Justin Rose is
still in the lead. He's been in the lead this
entire tournament. It feels like right now he is twenty
four under par over all. So I don't think that's
going to change. When it comes to baseball, Juan Soto
is going to play for the Dominican Republic in the
twenty twenty six World Baseball Classic. And what is trending
right now on Fox's MLB page is Livvy Dunn posted

(01:48:44):
a video of her standing in like.

Speaker 8 (01:48:46):
A batting page with the batting helmet as her boyfriend
Paul Skeen's pitches and U, she's in there, she's taking it.

Speaker 9 (01:48:54):
She's not swinging, but she's definitely standing in the batter's box.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Did he throw her some high heat?

Speaker 8 (01:49:00):
Throw so high the backer off the plate? She's so
not She's like in the batter's box, but like far,
she's just standing.

Speaker 5 (01:49:07):
There like her want to make me do the damn dishes?
At eleven o'clock last night, how about this one on
one up?

Speaker 8 (01:49:14):
So that is the ultimate trust, right, ultimate moment of trust?
I was gonna say, yeah, back to you guys, all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
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have a question here as we're in the Fox Sports
radio studios. Have you ever wiped with a piece of
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Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
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You've done this many times? But I got good news.

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Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Your best super bowls. So I got a few honors.
I let you give you give yours.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
And theres plenty of honorable mentions, but mine in retrospect.
And again, I have watched or attended every single Super
Bowl since super Bowl two.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
This is super Bowl sixty so.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Seeing them all, I mean, as a kid, I watched
Joe Namath that the greatest upset.

Speaker 5 (01:50:21):
I can't over explain, Steve, what did you just say?
But I've watched every single Super Bowl since.

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
He is that's crazy, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
Yeah, I was. I was in super Bowl two. I
was in fourth grade and super Bowl two. Yeah, he's
like eighty what do you mind. God, I'm not that old.
I'm getting up there anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
So, but my most memorable was Super Bowl eighteen, the
first one that you said you watched, which was the
Raiders annihilating the Redskins in Super Bowl eighteen. And the
reason that was so memorable is when I was a
kid growing up in the Los Angeles area, I was
a diehard La Ram fan, Roman Gabriel fearsome force in

(01:51:01):
the seventies, Disappointment after disappointment, disappointment, and then they moved
to Orange County. Now I understand this. You're like, well,
there's still the Los Angeles Rams, and I'm like, no,
they're not. They might as well have moved to Buffalo.
In my opinion, they were gone history. Rams are gone.
In fact, for a couple of years, I actually hung

(01:51:21):
onto the New York Jets as my team. Why the
New York Jets because Freeman McNeil was their star running
back and I knew Freeman from our.

Speaker 4 (01:51:29):
Days together at UCLA. Sorry the game a Jets fan.

Speaker 2 (01:51:32):
The one team that I consistently hated over the years
was the Raiders. I had always hated the Raiders when
they had their early rivalry with the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
I was a Chiefs fan.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
I hated the Raiders, hated them. So now I'm watching
this game the Raiders have moved to LA. It's like
my worst nightmare. Like the Raiders are in LA now,
no sorry, not rooting for you, boo boo boo boo.
And their first year in LA they lose to the
Jets in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
Was like one of my greatest days ever.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Whoo yeah, how Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
So I'm watching this Super Bowl matchup and the Raiders
are annihilating the Redskins, and I'm literally so miserable, i
can't see straight, Like I'm just I'm with my buddies
and they're like laughing at me because they know how
much I hate the Raiders. Six months almost to the
day of that game was my first day working for

(01:52:24):
the Raiders. Ring Ring July twentieth, nineteen eighty four, almost
exactly six months of the day that I watched that
game was my first day working for the Los Angeles Raiders.
So yeah, that would be my most memorable because if
you had told me that day that six months from now,

(01:52:46):
not a year, not ten years or ever, but six
months from now, you will actually be working.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
For the Raiders. I would say, over my dead body,
it will never happen.

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
YEA God has a very word sense of humor. So
you you sitting there against him? He said, okay, here
hold my Bible.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Watch this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:03):
I had interviewed with the Dodgers, I had interviewed with
the Angels, I had interviewed with the Rams. I thought
the Rams are going to hire me. The year before
I was trying to get a job working for a team,
and I ended up getting hired by the LA Raiders.
So that would be my most memorable this first one
I saw man the Marcus Allen run.

Speaker 4 (01:53:21):
Yep, Marcus well, you know. And Al Davis was never
happy about that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:25):
It wasn't he fell like happy about nothing. After the game.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
He was upset because he's like he got most of
his yards when the game was already over.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
He thought.

Speaker 2 (01:53:35):
Honestly, if you had asked Al Davis who you thought
was the MVP of that Super Bowl, he would have
told you Reggie Kinlaw.

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
He was the nose tackle. He said.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
He manhandled their center Bostick and destroyed their entire you know,
hogs offensive front. And that's why we won the game.

Speaker 5 (01:53:51):
And I could dig that football starts in the trenches.
But when are you ever going to see a nose
tackle when Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (01:53:56):
And never well, especially when Marcus broke the record with
one hundred and ninetye yard it's rushing, including one of
the most, if not the most memorable single touchdown run
in history of the Super Bowl. That incredible reversed your
field seventy four yards. All right, so you got some
honorable man.

Speaker 5 (01:54:09):
Yep, just to just too eighty five Bears gets the
Patriots just because of what it stood for.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
It was the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
See, that's when I would do you realize we should
have been in that Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
I say we the LA Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
We got upset by New England at home on a
fumbled kickoff return. That game happened, it would not have
been forty six to ten. It would have been like
fourteen to ten. It would have been all time bloodbath
because the Raiders defense, howe long did its peak.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
A lot of the we that could that that would
have been a brutal.

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
Marino could have been in another super Bowl. They be
the Dolphins in the post Sason, that's Dolphins gonna. I
mean that team with Steve Grogrin. We would have kicked
the Dolphins friar. That was one game just because of
what the eighty five Bears stiff. And then another one
for me was the Niners in Bengals, And that's because
that was the first time I ever saw a game
winning touchdown.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Pass on a big level. That was that was my
moment to wow.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
Like watching a quarterback and rive a team drive down
the field and not just not a playoff game, but
win the Super Bowl on a last second drive. That
was my introduction to that is during.

Speaker 2 (01:55:15):
That drive, Randy Cross, you know, great guard the U
c L a guy on that team. He shared the
story that while they're on that drive, John Montana breaks
from the huddle. They're all, you know, sitting like you know,
he goes, hey.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
Did John Candy? John Candy? He said he doesn't. He
did that to calm everybody down, because everybody was was
at the game over there. John Candy's over here, I
just watched What what are you talking about? All right?
Coming up on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
It'll always pop up at the top of your screen.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
All Right, So I'm asking you guys this, Let's face it,
this is not our typical marquee matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
For the big game you think.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
I mean, this is Sam Donald versus Drake Me. Okay,
Sam Darnald versus Drake May. Almost every big game that
we've seen over the years has had at least one
Hall of Fame level quarterback, almost all of them. I mean,

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maybe Drake May will be there someday, but he certainly
hasn't played like one in the playoff. Drake May has
been really ordinary in the postseason, very ordinary. Sam Darnald
is coming off one of the best games I've seen
a quarterback have in a conference championship game. But all
season long, we're sort of like, what Sam Donald is
actually going to show up. So I'm not going to pretend,

(01:57:19):
because in the next hour I do want to start
breaking down this game a little bit, you know, some
of the things we might be able to sort of
pick out that could be key components of who ends
up winning this Super Bowl. And by the way, I
don't think it's any FATA company. The odds obviously have
grown a little bit. I think they opened to three
and a half. I think Seattle's five now, which doesn't
surprise me. I mean, you know, if you look at

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the NFC as a whole, I think most people woul
agree the NFC is a better conference than the AFC,
and they were the number one seed in the NFC,
so you know, I can understand that. But I'm not
buying into like this is somehow a slam dunk for
the Seahawks because of the Sam Darnald factor.

Speaker 5 (01:58:01):
I heard Brian know talk about this earlier. I thought
it was a pretty interesting question. I'll throw it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
He asked this question, what would you be more surprised
at Drake may having an incredibly great game or Sam
Donald having an incredibly bad game? What would surprise you

(01:58:27):
more in this matchup? Either that Drake May would have
an incredibly great game, or that Sam Donald would have
an incredibly bad game.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
Neither that's a weird question. It is a weird question.

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
Surprise, No ask that because it's normally his questions make
like a whole lot of sense. He's you know, he's
good at what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
What do you think is more likely to happen? Then
forget what makes you worried. What would be a more
likely scenario than Darnald will have a terrible game, or
that Drake May will have a phenomenal game.

Speaker 5 (01:59:00):
That Darnold will have a terrible game, because that's what
we're all waiting on. I don't know if we're waiting
on Drake May to have this phenomenal game. But also
we also have three weeks of evidence that Drake May
has been very bad this playoffs. He's been He's made
two or three throws. He's made two or three Sean
Payton threw that game away last week. We sat here, screamed,

(01:59:21):
and I'll go home, and I watched the game. You know,
I rewatched games that I want to hear the commentator,
they both were saying the same thing. Why wouldn't you
take the three What are you doing, and then this
is the play call, and then you fire the OC
and all that other stuff that never got going on.
That's another story for another day.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
But it was especially by the way that game we
were sitting here, I was giving you the weather report
the entire game.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
The first half, and it was exactly what they said.
The one time the weather report was right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
I said, the second half, you're gonna start seeing some
snow and by fourth quarter it's going to be a whiteout.
And that's exactly what have the weather report was like.
Apparently Sean Payton didn't read the weather report.

Speaker 5 (01:59:59):
I want to go as far as far as the
Super Bowl, and we can carry it the next hour,
we can carry it the next week. I don't think
this matchup's great for the optics of the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:00:08):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (02:00:09):
I don't believe we don't. I don't believe we have
the two best teams in the league at all.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
At all.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
You have a one severe In fact, the fact is
is that New England actually had the same record.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
You and I both know and now and listen, guys,
higsight is twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
We're not doing that though, because we have twenty weeks
of what we've said on watch, you're gonna go back
and check it. The Rams are the best team in football.
I said it, all right, all right, if they they
they're they're part return. It was clear that return cast
them the game. Once it was clear the Chiefs and
Eagles were not right than the Rams. The Rams are
the best team in the NFL today right now.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
Their defense, right now, the Rams are the.

Speaker 5 (02:00:46):
Best team in the league. Their part returners simply gave
the game away.

Speaker 2 (02:00:50):
But their defense didn't make any adjustments they made Sam Darnold.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
Who no, no, no, not.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Their defense is Sean McVay, and we talked about his
coaching and the special teams.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
I get it. It comes to bite you, guys who
you really are down, you know, down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
All right, we're gonna bring it, bring you the breakdown
of the big game, number sixty. Break it all down
for you, coming up here on End Zone Radio.

Speaker 11 (02:01:14):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio one more week,
one more week for the ultimate matchup to determine the
National Football League champion of the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
This is End Zone Radio, Harbin and Husky.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
We're on the Fox Sports Radio studios all right, we've
been sharing memories of games past, You've been talking about
all the coaching changes around the NFL. We even addressed
the real story behind the Belichick snub by the Pro Football.

Speaker 3 (02:01:46):
Interest by you man. Seriously, I didn't that was a
good breakdown, bro Well.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
I wanted to break down the technical aspect and then
some of the other things, and then again the leaking
of the store.

Speaker 5 (02:01:56):
Any shenaniganst to you, though, is there any any Shannani?

Speaker 3 (02:02:00):
There could be.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
There could be one other point here, and that is,
we don't know yet. There will be one person out
of that group at least that gets in. I'm talking
about the well, we know it's not going to be
the coach. It could be Bob Kraft. It could be
one of the players, the three senior finalists, Ken Anderson,
Roger greg Or Elsie Greenwood.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
But if it is Bob Kraft, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
If Bob Kraft is the one name it emerges, then
the theory that Bob Craft's people.

Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
I wouldn't Bob Kraft has people to work for him.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Doing politicking, saying, look, Bob's in his eighties, He's waited
a long time for this honor and He's not about
to share the stage with that jackass. I'm not going
to share the stage with that jackass. No way, no how,
no chance. I don't find it funny the idea that

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the two of us are going to be standing side
by side with our gold jackets.

Speaker 3 (02:02:56):
That is not happening. It's him or me. That's how
it should happen. Of course it should happen. But you know,
Roger Craig, though I think Roger Craig, it could be.
It could be one of the players. Again, it's not
about eighty percent. We know whoever the top vote getter is.
Even if it's less than eighty percent, we'll be in
the Hall of Fame. Right. Well, we've eliminated Belichick. Now

(02:03:17):
it's either Craft, Greenwood, Roger Craig, or Ken Anderson. That's
why I think one of those will be cold.

Speaker 5 (02:03:22):
I think because I think Craft would be more of
I think if he gets in, I'm gonna I'm a
side eye it as like, like you said, like some
type of politics. I think there was a lot of politics,
some type of if he gets in. If if he
gets in, I'm gonna kind of side all that. Roger Craig,
the first thousand thousand back in NFL history, still not

(02:03:42):
in And think about this Super Bowl MVP three rings. Well,
I look at you could make an argument for any
one of those guys. I mean, Elsie Greenwood obviously, you know,
with Steve.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
Curtain, I mean, but you know, I mean he was
he was a dominant player in the mid seventies, by
the way, By the way, you know, he easily could
have been the MVP of one of those Super Bowls.
I mean, he was so dominant in that Super Bowl game.
But that aside, we'll see if it is Craft though,
immediately he's going to be asked questions like are you
uncomfortable that you're in? And Belichick's not in, and we'll

(02:04:13):
see how he handles that if that's the case. All right,
So as we get to break down this matchup between
the Seahawks and the Patriots, here's one thing right out
of the box that just stands out. We know that
the Patriots had the weakest schedule in the league. In fact,
not only the weakest schedule since the ninety nine Rams,

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who by the way, did go on to win the
Super Bowl, they actually had the third easiest schedule of
any team since nineteen seventy eight. Jeez, so since nineteen
seventy eight, strength of schedule our third easiest since nineteen

(02:04:58):
seventy eight. Now on the other side, the Seahawks had
the seventh toughest strength of schedule in the league.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Think about this.

Speaker 2 (02:05:07):
In the last month and the half, they beat the
forty nine Ers and the Rams twice each.

Speaker 3 (02:05:17):
Okay, those are quality teams.

Speaker 2 (02:05:20):
So when you're looking at this matchup just based on numbers.
In fact, I saw this breakdown of the Seahawks where
they take an account strength to schedule everything about their season,
and this one measure of the season that the Seahawks

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had ranks them as the sixth best team in the
history of the NFL for a single season based on
what they did, who they beat, all the dynamics that
go into calculating the strength of I mean, the eighty
five Bears are ahead of them. I think the ninety
one Redskins are ahead of them. Obviously, the undefeated Patriots

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even though they lost the Super Bowl, ahead of them,
the eighty nine to forty nine Ers that wiped out
the Broncos fifty five.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
Ten, those are the only teams ahead of them.

Speaker 2 (02:06:12):
Yeah, that's how dominant the Seahawks have been this year,
fourteen to three, strength, the schedule, toughest division in the league.
That's what they that's how they measure up. Okay, so
that being said, this really should be a no contest game.
But I again, I sit here right now saying I

(02:06:32):
don't buy it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
I just don't buy it. And what factor in what
way I think that?

Speaker 2 (02:06:38):
I think a factor is the factor that won the
Patriots their first Super Bowl. Let's let's go back to
that game. Okay, I was there in New Orleans. The
whole dynamic in New Orleans that year was weird because
it was right after nine to eleven. Security in New
Orleans was insane, and up until that time I was

(02:06:59):
I hated to be doing my radio show at Radio Row.
I actually had some connections at the time that allowed
me to be in the FanFest near the autograph table
where Hall of famers, So I was like shooting ducks
in a barrel, right, But that year we were forced
to move to the Radio Row, and one of the
things we did each year leaning up to the Big

(02:07:19):
Game was have Hank Stram on the show. So Hank Stram,
the Hall of Fame coach, legendary Chiefs coach, great guy,
he was always fun to have on. But he did
this annual thing with us where he would break down
like seventeen different points that would indicate who's going to
win the game. The Rams were two touchdown favorites. I mean,
the Patrons had no chance. They got the luck play

(02:07:39):
with a tuck play. I mean, Rams are going to
blow them out. Okay, So Hank's breaking it down and
we're like, all right, coach, what do he got? Well,
you know, I put all the numbers in and guys,
I'm gonna call right now.

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
New England's gonna win the game. And we almost fell
out of our seat. Coach, what are you talking about? Oh,
you must have gotten the numbers wrong. There's no way,
there's no way New England's gonna win this this kid,
Tom Brady, forget it. That's not going to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Thomas and I feel like, based on these numbers, I'm
being told the same thing that there is no way
New England is going to win this game. But guess
what New England did win that game and their quarterback
it is probably the most underrated game winning drive in
Super Bowl history. Do you remember this the Rams were

(02:08:38):
actually Rams had to come back in that game to
tie it up. And at the end of that game,
I remember, I believe it was.

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
John Madden.

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
Was saying that they should just sit on the clock
and go to overtime, like they had no timeouts. They're
at their own twenty yard line. Why risk it, you know,
just go to overtime to make your chances. And Tom
Brady made some unbelievable throws set up Vine Terry to
win the game with the field goal, and they walked
off a winner, and they were in shock. It was

(02:09:10):
just like I mean, and I just maybe Drake May
is that maybe this will be the game where we
annoyed Drake May as the next guy because he.

Speaker 3 (02:09:19):
Hasn't looked like it so far in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:09:21):
But something holds me back from just saying, based on paper,
this should not even be a game. Seattle is a
significantly better team on paper than the New England Patriots.

Speaker 4 (02:09:33):
But something tells me this game is gonna surprise us.

Speaker 5 (02:09:37):
I'm not sure about that, and it's not about paper.
Seattle is a better team on the field. It's got
nothing to do with paper. But you get two weeks, right,
you get two weeks to prepare for these teams. Rabel,
he's a coaching guy. He's got a defense. He's got
some stars on the defense. They've done a great job
with the defense. They went out and spent a lot
of money free agency on the defensive line from Alabama.

(02:10:01):
List like he's fourming it's around and what they thought
he was gonna be when he was drafted coming out
of Obama as an All SEC. I believe all American
guy also there to me, he was a stud at Bama.
Just take some guys, as always say, take some guys
a little longer than others to just kind of get
going in this league. And I feel like that's what's
happened with some of these guys they have on this defense.
But defenses, see, we also saw this with the Broncos

(02:10:24):
in the sey All Super Bowl. Peyton Man had broken
the passing record as far as the touchdowns. They were
just walloping teams and just running through everybody. But we
underestimated that legion of the boom. We underestimated that defense
and Sam Donald the reason why I just look at
this Super Bowl ish, whoever wins this game, I don't

(02:10:47):
know if it's going to be because of the quarterback.
I don't Sam Donald could have a bad game and
they could still win this game. Drake make it have
a bad game up. He's had three of them in
the playoffs. Guess where they are in the super Bowl.
That's what leaning me more towards Seattle. Not an official pick,
but was leaning me more towards Seattle. Even to cover
could be by ten, could be by ten plus because

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I believe one of these defenses can score. Like I'm
gonna have that on my prop at which defense scores
a touchdown here? If a defense gives you a touchdown,
I just think it leans more that way. They have
the better number one receiver, they have the better offensive line,
they have the better pass rush, they have the Seattle
has the better of everything. I think quarterbacks all wash,

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but they have the better of everything else on the field.
And if you go down to the coaches, I'm just
not sure Raver's gonna win Coach of the Year. But
I'm not sure head to hit, I would just take
him far and beyond over Mike McDaniel right now, right,
I mean, I would just go, hey man, maybe maybe
coaching is a wash.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
Out of this Sat so Mike McDonald wanted to go
back to his days. Is the McDonald starrys at mcdoniel McDonald, I.

Speaker 3 (02:11:51):
Know you have McDaniel on your mind all the time.
God get that yet.

Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
So and by the way, it's always confusing to me.
Let's let's be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (02:11:58):
You have Mike McDaniel. You have Mike McDonald, and then
you have you have a Kevin McConnell and McDaniels, McDaniel Daniels.

Speaker 5 (02:12:09):
Right, McDaniel has a lot of mc a lot of
Mickey D's, man, a lot of Mickey's. And then you
have the Jaden Daniel. Yeah, that's very confusing anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:12:19):
Mike McDonald, who basically his whole coaching career was with
the Ravens except for that one year he went to
the Mexician. But he's a defensive guy, right, Okay, So
since twenty twenty three when he was defensive coordinator with
the Ravens, he has his defenses and it's his defense
that we see in Seattle obviously have faced six quarterbacks

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under the age of twenty four since twenty twenty three.
Those six quarterbacks are oh and six with one touchdown,
eight interceptions in twenty two sacks it is, and Drake
May's twenty three.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
There it is.

Speaker 5 (02:12:57):
Man, he has so much experience the Drake May.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
He here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
And by the way, he gets an extra week to prepare, right,
I mean he's watching a lot of Drake May right now,
who's already struggled against.

Speaker 3 (02:13:10):
You know, and the Broncos and the and the detection. Right,
I mean he.

Speaker 2 (02:13:16):
Struggled in all these games. Now, by the way, all
these teams are top five defense. Yes, well, here comes another,
and here's another, here's another.

Speaker 3 (02:13:22):
This is a number one story.

Speaker 2 (02:13:23):
Here he comes another, although this is also a defense,
said Matthew Stafford had no problem with.

Speaker 5 (02:13:28):
Matthew Stafford is also a Hall of Famer. Matthew Stafford
all is gonna win MVP. Matthew Stafford also has a
Super Bowl. Drake May is just getting going, Matthew Stafford,
and it probably drove Mike McDonald crazy that he couldn't
rattle this guy. But like one of my favorite lines
in sports, sometimes the other guy is good too many
Sometimes the other guy you're playing like you you think

(02:13:50):
Papavich at some point just looked at his players, is like, hey, look, man,
when we played the Lakers tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:13:54):
Just do what you can on Kobe, honestly, right, just
do it.

Speaker 5 (02:13:57):
Hey, if you're Phil Jackson, hey, look just you know
what you can't against Duncan. We're not stopping him tonight.
But we don't want to give up forty three to
fifteen and five blocks. We don't want to give Dad.
You don't want to give Kobe thirty seven. You don't
only get Kobe forty two. You go home in twenty six,
twenty seven and we hold overy. Okay, maybe we get
a dub tonight, but that's how Matthew Stafford is that defense. Like, look,

(02:14:19):
let's not like the guy go ballistic and throw for
four hundred yards.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
He throws close, he can throw for three sixty seven,
but then they fumble the punt and all that. I mean,
there's just some guys.

Speaker 5 (02:14:28):
Look at look at what the other top quarterbacks in
the league have done against Seattle defense. I wentn't look
that up. I went looked at all their games and
look at the opposing quarterbacks. They shut people down. They
Matthew Stafford lit them up three times this year. Nobody
else has come close to them.

Speaker 2 (02:14:43):
Here's the one thing and again We're gonna continue to
break this all down. But just quickly, let's face it,
Drake May did a lot more damage with his legs
than his arm, absolutely against Denver.

Speaker 3 (02:14:52):
I mean was his key runs.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
I mean, this is shades of Patrick Mahomes where he
would sometimes actually do more damage with his legs then
he would throw in the ball. And I'm sure you
know Mike McDonald's thinking about that.

Speaker 9 (02:15:04):
That.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Okay, we can't let that go. Put a spy on him.

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
I mean, if we're gonna stop this guy, we can't
let him off the hook and let him run for
thirty yards or whatever and pick up that all right.

Speaker 5 (02:15:14):
On the other side, we continue to breaking also record
just stuff on Diggs only real receiver, man, I know,
and I know this defense has got one. I would
I would press him and put a cover like a
safety of cover over almost like a double team. But
the shadow and dare somebody else that plays receive for
the Patriots to beat me?

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
All right, Well, here's the one thing that's going to
be a non factor at least as of now, is
the weather, which has been a major factor obviously for
New England throughout this postseason.

Speaker 3 (02:15:41):
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I just liked that.

Speaker 7 (02:17:10):
It's been Yeah, Honestly, I just won the I also
just won the college football thing. So I won the
Amazon gift?

Speaker 3 (02:17:16):
Did you one? Your producer won? By the way, Okay,
first of all, I was a limited media like this.
I had. I had Indiana losing Alabama in.

Speaker 5 (02:17:24):
The first.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
So you did you have Miami?

Speaker 1 (02:17:29):
What happened?

Speaker 7 (02:17:30):
No, I had Indiana.

Speaker 3 (02:17:31):
I had Indiana, So you had Indiana winning at all?

Speaker 5 (02:17:33):
Yeah, I was eliminated immediately because I had Indiana losing
their first game.

Speaker 4 (02:17:37):
Oh man, I think I had Miami losing their first
I think the.

Speaker 7 (02:17:40):
Indiana side of the bracket completely cracked.

Speaker 3 (02:17:43):
So that's why.

Speaker 4 (02:17:44):
Yeah, I just I Yeah, I mean Indiana threw it
in my face and there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:17:49):
I didn't have Miami went like getting to the national championship,
but I had them going farther than most.

Speaker 3 (02:17:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
I had the two teams in the championship in the
first round. Out I probably finished last. I don't think
I got a point. The thing I missed everything.

Speaker 5 (02:18:01):
I didn't do it because I was I felt like
letting one of you guys. Yeah, I felt like letting
somebody else around here believe so much. This guy believes
the Carson back is destined for Canton. He's going to
be a Hall of Fame. I've never said that. I've
never said that. I think you've been hyping. I think
he's an NFL quarterback. Absolutely, you said, he's better than
Ty Simpson.

Speaker 3 (02:18:21):
Yes he is.

Speaker 4 (02:18:23):
Is he better than Fernando Mendozo?

Speaker 3 (02:18:26):
No, no, no, But that's what what is? What is?
You guys?

Speaker 7 (02:18:30):
By the way, regarding Fornanda Mendoza, did you guys see
the trade talks that people are trying to push out
right now with the Ravens and the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
Yeah, give the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (02:18:39):
Give the Ravens the number one overall pick and the
and and the Raiders take Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (02:18:44):
I saw that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:44):
Okay, well, all right, well let's let's stop for a
second here. All right, so Clint Kubiak is going to
be the new coach of the Raiders. It can't be
official until officer the Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (02:18:53):
I uh, if you're a Clint Kubiak, do you want
Lamar Jackson or do you want Fernando Mundo? That's what
that was the question. That was the That was the
exact question I was about to ask you, guys. Hey,
let's play the game now, would you do Shaye? Would
you do to move?

Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
Yeah? Chris, would you do to move? Sorry? Remind me, so,
what were the term.

Speaker 5 (02:19:15):
Ravens getting number one overall pick, Raiders get Lamar Jackson?
Straight up yes or no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (02:19:21):
I would not do the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:19:22):
Okay, it was one thing that well, here's the one
thing to keep in mind. Lamar Jackson just celebrated the
last month his twenty ninth birthday. He's not even thirty
years old yet. Remember he's the youngest Heisman Trophy winner
of all time. Yep, even though two freshmen won it.

Speaker 5 (02:19:37):
Both Jameis Winston and Johnny Football were older than Lamar
Jackson was when he won the Heisman Trophy at Louisville.

Speaker 3 (02:19:45):
That is a really good question. I'll be honest with you, man,
I I because of what he already has there right now.
You do that move in a heartbeat. You do this
move and a heartbeat.

Speaker 5 (02:19:59):
If you have any questions of whether you should take
Mendoza or have Lamar Jackson right now, you need your
head examined.

Speaker 3 (02:20:09):
If you have any question whether you should do that
move or not. I look at I. I'm with you
on this one. I would take Lamar Jackson right.

Speaker 5 (02:20:16):
Now, right now. And by the way, do you know
what RPO is gonna look like with him and ashion
gen Z.

Speaker 7 (02:20:22):
That's what I'm saying. You got a Hall of Fame
tight end already. I was about to say, what's his
number one? What's his number one? What's been his number
one weapon? In Baltimore?

Speaker 3 (02:20:29):
Mark Arrington? Well position, okay, so now you get Now you.

Speaker 5 (02:20:34):
Get a younger version of that in Rock Bowers, right,
you get a stud back to run rpo off of like, oh,
I don't know Derrick Henry, right, not saying, not saying,
gense's Dereck Henry. But this kid's a stud. His kid's
a bona fide beast. That's why he was so frustrated
like he was last year. But when they started really using.

Speaker 3 (02:20:52):
Him, what did he look like? He looked like the
next one. He looks like the next one. You do
this in a heartbeat, so you think about this. So
they won.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
Heisman's nine years apart. But Lamar Jackson is only six
years older, right. The Mendoza, well, Mendoz is like twenty eight,
he's twenty three. He's actually twenty two.

Speaker 4 (02:21:09):
I was pusheople, I like doing it anyway, Well, we'll see,
we'll see, it's.

Speaker 5 (02:21:14):
Not gonna happen. I saw the exact reports, and these
are legit reports. I saw the Zach report, just like
I know you guys saw the report that the Vikings
are gonna pursue Joe Burrow, which I told you guys
he's gonna get traded.

Speaker 3 (02:21:25):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
But again, this the reason that we're talking about Lamar
Jackson and bo because they're the franchise that they played for.
Are not gonna pay that kind of money? Are you
gonna pay seventy million dollars for Lamar Jackson? You've won
three playoff games in eight years of Lamar Jackson is
your quarterback?

Speaker 3 (02:21:42):
Three three off? Your worst year too. But you know
where I stand on quarterbacks getting played off.

Speaker 2 (02:21:49):
So that's how Lamar Jackson is at that overrated coach,
that's most.

Speaker 3 (02:21:53):
Overrated coach of all You play both.

Speaker 5 (02:21:55):
You play both sides of that because you give him done.
Yes you do, because you're given credit for winning the
Super Bowl with flat Go.

Speaker 2 (02:22:00):
You've said it on hundred I gave him credit because
he inherited three of the greatest defensive players.

Speaker 3 (02:22:05):
Oh no, no, you give him credit for winning a
ring with Flacco.

Speaker 2 (02:22:09):
Yes you have, Sorry I haven't, Yes you have, No
I did. I asked this question the coach when he
won it. Why did he win ten playoff games with
Joe Flacco? As this quarterback and only three with Lamar Jackson.
Lamar Jackson because ray Lewis he had ed Reid, he
had twelve.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
First of all, that was the end of ray Lewis
and Edy.

Speaker 5 (02:22:30):
Ray Lewis took ray Lewis took the dear antless Bray
to even come back to play.

Speaker 3 (02:22:34):
From the Tryceps at the end of that game, at
the end of that season.

Speaker 5 (02:22:37):
That he was still ray Lewis. No, no, he was
still ray Lewis. The name he wasn't ray Lewis that
he wanted to Ray Louise that one Super Bowl the Giants, he.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
Was ray Lewis, the leader, one of the great players.
That's fine, I've ever been around, I'll give you that.
But as far as on the field, on the play.

Speaker 5 (02:22:52):
But to Lamar if if if, if you're the Raiders
and this is legit, this is really out there, you
pursued a hell out of this.

Speaker 3 (02:23:00):
You pursued a hella.

Speaker 5 (02:23:02):
Let me ask you, this is Mendoza gonna be better
than the top flight quarterbacks?

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
We looked at right, we don't, but we knew what's
talking about her. Did anyone even hear of this guy
before this year? We knew Herbert was gonna be good.
We knew Burrow was gonna be Herbert. He's not good
on the play we knew, we.

Speaker 5 (02:23:17):
Knew, we knew Herbert was gonna be good. I'm not
playing this game with you. I've done this for twenty one.

Speaker 3 (02:23:24):
You can defending the court.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
Look at will he be better with Mike mcgannity better
be because his three playoff gains have been a would
you take would you take her?

Speaker 3 (02:23:34):
Would you take Herbert? And Mendoza right now? Stop it?

Speaker 5 (02:23:36):
Okay, but we knew certain guys are gonna be good.
We we we hope, I hope Mendoza is in a
complete bus. He has the measurables. He's a big guy,
big arm, he looks like he's got the head, got
the head for But he would be also be going
to a franchise that we all admit right now is
probably one of the worst franchises in all of pro sports, which.

Speaker 3 (02:23:56):
Is the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (02:23:57):
So you want Lamar Jackson there, You think Lamar Jackson
would make the Raiders to the playoffs, Well, immediately I.

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Was gonna say yes.

Speaker 7 (02:24:03):
I don't think the past protection is very different from
the Ravens. On the Raiders side Gino Smith.

Speaker 3 (02:24:09):
I think, I think that is a different But you
can't go after Lamar like you could go after Geno.
I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:24:20):
Gino's not getting no, No, this year, he was just
banged up. Lamar is still gotten twenty eight. Give him
an off season the recovering twenty nine. Give him an
off season to recover. He was banged up this year.
That's why he didn't look to say he's getting banged up.
I agree with you, but I mean he's he'll be
going to go at some point. He's not the runner
he was five years ago. I take the chance on
it right now than just trying to bank on Mendoza.

(02:24:41):
But we all agree it's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (02:24:43):
No, No, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (02:24:44):
I think there's more that the Vikings putting together three
first round picks, adding JJ McCarthy and maybe Jordan Addison.

Speaker 4 (02:24:50):
Why would they want JJ McCarthy because.

Speaker 3 (02:24:53):
They're the Bengals. What the hell? What are talking about
the Bengals?

Speaker 5 (02:24:55):
Why are you trying to act like the Bengals know
what they're doing because they're the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (02:24:59):
All right. On the other glad you mentioned JD McCart
they have a question on the other side. But first
let's find out what is a trending right now?

Speaker 2 (02:25:07):
So, Muncie, would you trade, if you're the Raiders, the
number one overall pick essentially for Nana Mendoza for Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 3 (02:25:14):
Straight up, nothing else, just here you got it, a
one pick, we want the quarterback?

Speaker 8 (02:25:18):
No, No, there you go.

Speaker 3 (02:25:20):
No.

Speaker 8 (02:25:23):
I would think about it, but I think it would
be a no. You have to think about it, right, like,
if you're presented that, yeah, absolutely think about it. But
I think the answer is no.

Speaker 3 (02:25:36):
Okay, because the.

Speaker 5 (02:25:36):
One thing you're not gonna have to teach him is
how to be an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 9 (02:25:39):
He's got that part down, Yeah, But there's something intriguing
of like, what can Fernanda Mendoza do? Right, Like, there's
something intriguing because he may not it may not be
what we think it is, or it might be everything.

Speaker 3 (02:25:52):
He might be Trevor Lawrence, or he might be Joe
Barrow exactly like, and.

Speaker 9 (02:25:55):
I feel like that's why the answer is no, because
there's I'm intrigued. I want to see what this guy
can do and if you can translate how quickly to
the NFL because you know there's gonna be some growing pains.

Speaker 3 (02:26:06):
Absolutely well, it's like playing for them he had. Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:26:10):
I also just love the idea for Nana Mendoza playing
for the Raiders like that, to me is so hilarious,
the idea of it, because the Raiders and him are
so opposite in like yeah styles right like it just
seems like a perfect opposite match, like a perfect.

Speaker 3 (02:26:26):
Box would be a Tom Brady clone though right there,
and he's athletic.

Speaker 8 (02:26:35):
Guys and then.

Speaker 2 (02:26:38):
Coming out, but he capt this season with one of
the most memorable runs ever.

Speaker 3 (02:26:42):
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26:44):
What I saw people on TV and radio trying to
say he like post yeah, we didn't have to dive.

Speaker 8 (02:26:49):
Shut shut up, Yes he did. He were out there, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:26:53):
Were you out there taking a shot?

Speaker 2 (02:26:55):
They were saying that he posed essentially when he took
to show somehow like.

Speaker 5 (02:27:02):
Get I literally saw people make millions of dollars in
this business. Really get on TV and radio.

Speaker 8 (02:27:05):
The next day and Sam and say that exat stupid things.

Speaker 2 (02:27:08):
Imagine getting hammered by somebody as you're trying to run
in and thinking, oh yeah, I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (02:27:13):
Shout right stretch out him, leave my ribs in my
back wide open. Four team that's taken, a league that's
taken some shots that have not big called.

Speaker 4 (02:27:20):
All right, well, that's that's the world we live in.
People see things that aren't there.

Speaker 8 (02:27:24):
It's true. That's true. All right, Casey missed it. Why
this conversation is happening. It seems like the court the
coach Cursel has closed up.

Speaker 9 (02:27:33):
In the NFL, Raiders are expected to hire Seahawks offensive
coordinator Clint Qbac to be their next head coach.

Speaker 8 (02:27:39):
This is after the Super Bowl.

Speaker 9 (02:27:40):
The Cardinals are planning to hire a Rams offensive coordinator,
Mike Lafleur, to be their next head coach, and former
Falcons coach Rahie Morris has been hired by the forty
nine ers.

Speaker 8 (02:27:48):
To be their new defensive coordinator. In the NBA one.

Speaker 9 (02:27:52):
Game going on right now, almost at halftime, but the
Celtics have taken the lead from the Bucks.

Speaker 8 (02:27:56):
They're of fifty four to forty two. Derek White leading
the way for Boston.

Speaker 9 (02:27:59):
He's got ten points, Ryan Rollins for Milwaukee He's got
fourteen points.

Speaker 8 (02:28:03):
And golf Justin Rose is still in the lead at
the Farmers Insurance Open.

Speaker 9 (02:28:07):
He is twenty three under part overall in the NHL
one game going on. The Hurricanes are up on the
Kings one zero late in the second period and in
case Dostic, Carlos Alcarez completed the career Grand Slam overnight
at twenty two years old, defeating Novak Djokovic at the
Australian Open.

Speaker 3 (02:28:24):
Back to you guys, Hi Monsie, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (02:28:26):
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Speaker 5 (02:28:50):
See today's show posted right after we get off the air.
You mentioned JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (02:28:54):
The Minnesota Vikings fired their GM, so all that, and
he he was known as an analytics guy. Okay, he
was big analytics guy, right, and so they made a
decision among others that we used a first round pick
on JJ McCarthy. Unfortunately he misses rookie season with an injury.

(02:29:17):
We saw Sam Donald literally off the scrap heap completely
almost out of the league, suddenly have a Pro Bowl
season for our team. So we're going to trust that
our coach can do the same thing with JJ McCarthy
he did with Sam Donald. What's the difference. So they
let Sam Donald go and now Sam Donald's in the

(02:29:38):
Super Bowl. And so this is going to get a
lot of attention. I mean it's already getting obviously a
lot of attention because the Vikings didn't make the playoffs
this year.

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Although they finished with.

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
A winning record, they didn't have a complete flameout season,
and McCarthy was unfortunately hurt for much of the season.
So as someone that is a big proponent of JJ McCarthy,
and by the way, I supported their pick. I'm not
an anti JJ McCarthy. Guy, I know what I saw
on gosh uh no no no. I said this when
he was at Michigan. I said this at Michigan. I said, Look,

(02:30:08):
he plays for Jim Harborough. He wants to run the
ball first. They run the ball first. But every time
he needed to make play, especially in that playoff game
against Alabama, he made plays.

Speaker 3 (02:30:18):
He made plays that helped.

Speaker 2 (02:30:20):
Michigan win that game and win a national Championship, So
it's not like a anti him. The question is now
that we are where we are as Sam Donald gets
ready to play in the super Bowl after what he
played his best game I've ever seen. That was the
best game, Sam Donald, and I'm having to be in
the NFC Championship game against the Ring, I'm with you.

(02:30:40):
Are you still one hundred percent supportive of the Vikings
move of which the general manager walked the plank that
keeping JJ McCarthy and letting Sam Darnold go was best
for the Vikings organization?

Speaker 5 (02:30:53):
This is my problem with the Vikings, and I said
this during the season and no one still wants to
touch it. When do we start to talk about O'Connell.
When does that start to become the conversation this idea.
First of all, I'm sorry I have to push back
on Sam Darter was nobody, not no. He was in
San Francisco. So what Carolina first was in San Francisco,
he went through two teams that were one was rebuilding.

(02:31:14):
Then he goes to Shanahan and Shanahan almost rebilitates him,
just like McVeigh did for Baker Mayfield. So he wasn't
just out there, just not playing doing selling groceries or
selling in shorts or working at the local gas station.

Speaker 3 (02:31:26):
So that's not that's not the case. Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:31:29):
He also was blessed enough to be able to be
a veteran. What is the eighth year in the league.
Now like he's been around and he's getting his second shot.
We just saw what Danny dimes. It happens.

Speaker 3 (02:31:38):
But if you're the Vikings, you can't just dismiss your
eleventh overall pick, tenth overall pick excuse me, and which
essentially was gonna be going into his second year, his
rookie year, he had the NCL. It was a watch,
so he didn't even play. This was his rookie year.

Speaker 5 (02:31:53):
We're judging a guy trying to call somebody their career.
We made this mistake with Kayler Wims, you myself, and
but we we've all openly admitted this.

Speaker 3 (02:32:00):
We were out on Caleb Wims after week eight in
Week one.

Speaker 5 (02:32:03):
Against Drake may Last year, people were out on Drake Maye,
people were out on Bryce young people. And now oh
this year, ooh, Jayden, Jayden Daniels, he's hurt, dude, he's hurt.
But let's not forget what he looked like his rookie
year they went to the conference championship game. When guy's
out on the field, I think in today's world, we
start to kind of forget how good the player is

(02:32:25):
when they're a little banged up or when they're out.
If you're the Vikings, you don't sell the ship on this,
shet man. You have a great offseason. You rebound from this.
I think now the Joe Burrow thing, this story that's
out there, the room that's out there, Yeah, you do
that deal.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
I'm not JJ's my guy.

Speaker 5 (02:32:40):
I will forever be in debted to my man for
twenty twenty three, fourteen to fifteen to no Michigan National
Championship five.

Speaker 3 (02:32:47):
But I'm also an analyst and I'm a professional in
his sports.

Speaker 5 (02:32:50):
If you tell me I could get Joe Burrow and
I'm giving up JJ McCarthy, Hey, JJ, good luck buddy,
right then.

Speaker 3 (02:32:59):
Come on, I mean, but that trade is not gonna happen,
JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (02:33:03):
Back, I don't, well, no, no, I if the tray
is not gonna happen, if Cincinnati doesn't want JJ.

Speaker 3 (02:33:09):
But I do believe that Joe Burrow is on his
way out that door.

Speaker 5 (02:33:13):
He doesn't want to be there, and I think Cincinnati
is one of those teams like, look, man, we're not
doing this. Okay, if you don't want to be here,
we're not gonna hold you. But we'll try to get
the best deal. Somebody's got to give up three first
round picks. So but for JJ, yes, he's the starter
going into next season. Now, I will say this, I
would bring in a veteran. You have to really push
him this offseason. I really would you.

Speaker 4 (02:33:33):
You basically all season long downplayed Sam Darno.

Speaker 3 (02:33:38):
Of course I have. And now he is one win
away and he's got to finish the job. And he's
got to finish the job if he if.

Speaker 2 (02:33:44):
He plays anywhere near the level he did against the
Rams and they win the Super Bowl? Where do you
rank him amongst quarterbacks? I mean Jalen Hurts obviously, Is
Jalen Hurts still top five?

Speaker 3 (02:33:55):
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (02:33:56):
I let me tell you one thing I'm not going
to do in this business. The one thing I'm not
going to do is take one year year. You you
hate hamper Cup, you hate Cooper Cups one year, So
don't tell me.

Speaker 3 (02:34:04):
I gotta right day. Everybody was a one year wonder
all right.

Speaker 5 (02:34:08):
This so then so then I could call it. I
could call if if Super Bowl MVP Award this week,
if Sam Donald wins it, then I could call him
a one year wonder two because one year doesn't erase seven.
I'm not going to back off of what I'm saying
about him. I would just say, look, he had a
good year, they were a good team, the guy won
the Super Bowl. I'm never gonna take the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:34:27):
Away now thirty and seven the last two years him
now elevate him all.

Speaker 3 (02:34:31):
Of a sudden in the top ten. So who are
we dropping out of the top time? Saying top five?

Speaker 5 (02:34:36):
Oh my god, you gotta be I think you're trolling
right now. You don't believe that you're too smart in
this business. Wait, you're too smart, Steve.

Speaker 4 (02:34:43):
Okay, who whoa, whoa? Who's in your top five?

Speaker 3 (02:34:45):
Now? Is Lamar Jackson still in your top five? Of
course he is. Why wouldn't he be?

Speaker 5 (02:34:49):
Why wouldn't he be because he didn't make the playoffs
this year, because he was banged up, because the team
was hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:34:53):
Because it's Jackson your top because this kicker miss the
field goal? If someone out here is taking it right now.
Is Matthew Stafford in your top five? But why why
wouldn't he be?

Speaker 4 (02:35:03):
But now you got like ten guys in your top
yeah you do, I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:35:06):
My top five right now here, still in your top five?
Where we go?

Speaker 5 (02:35:11):
Yes, Mahomes is still in my top five? Why wouldn't
he be because he's hurt? That does No, I'm not doing.

Speaker 3 (02:35:17):
I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.

Speaker 5 (02:35:18):
I game my top top five, game my top five,
my top five right now, Mahomes, give me Joe, give me,
give me Burrow, give me Lamar.

Speaker 3 (02:35:29):
You know what, hell, I'll do it. Man, give me Josh. Okay,
that's five. No, that's four, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. Listen, I'm
writing them down. Matthew Stafford and that's five.

Speaker 5 (02:35:41):
All right, And give me staff give me staff give
me staff that's my top five. Who's arguing with that
top five?

Speaker 3 (02:35:47):
Right now? You're telling me screaming? Right, Sam Donalds in
the super Bowl, he's better than one of those guys. Stuff.
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:35:53):
Final thoughts on this amazing Sunday. You got five hours
next week.

Speaker 3 (02:35:57):

Speaker 11 (02:36:01):
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Speaker 3 (02:36:10):
It's been quite a year VJ joined the team.

Speaker 4 (02:36:17):
We're here in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

Speaker 3 (02:36:21):
Got I'm sorry, so you joined the team this year?

Speaker 2 (02:36:25):
Yes, and uh, you know, obviously Chris has been here
for a while, and Boe, our normal producer, has been
hanging out a lot these days. We was appreciated, Shay,
very nice to see you.

Speaker 5 (02:36:39):
Well, you're part of the show anyway, but you know,
you jump into the producer seat and you know, around
and then yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 7 (02:36:49):
In the off season, you know, you guys coming to me.

Speaker 3 (02:36:52):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:36:54):
Well, I mean again, here's here's the one thing I
love most about Shay is that when I when I
tell one of my endless stories that I've repeated thousands
of times, his total disdain is so evident it makes it.
I love the fact that you don't pretend I really do.
I love the fact that you're just like dude, I mean,
I really don't. I really don't care. But you know,

(02:37:17):
I owner's old guy. You got stories, and you've been
around old you. But you were shocked when I told
you I literally literally watched every super Bowl since Super
Bowl two. No, that's why it wasn't even super Bowl too.
It was called the AFL NFL Championship Game. They didn't
call it Super Bowl yet.

Speaker 3 (02:37:33):
So you tell me that's that's back in the sixties.
It's a long time, real fast. Yeah, I got ten
quarterbacks better Sam Donald? Can I catch? Just roll them
off real fast?

Speaker 2 (02:37:42):
Because holy Mac, I just wanted to finish the that
when we started the season, I told you this season's
gonna fly.

Speaker 5 (02:37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:37:51):
I mean it's like we're just starting.

Speaker 2 (02:37:53):
Oh, we got eighteen weeks, seventeen regular season games, four
weeks of playoff, and now we are one week away
from the big game. All right, So now you've got
now you your your season long mission to downplay Sam
Donald because I asked you, guys, can anyone envision Sam
Darnold hoisting the Lombardi Trophy?

Speaker 3 (02:38:13):
And it was unanimous.

Speaker 2 (02:38:15):
No, That's what I asked that question before the playoffs,
even though Seattle was the number one seed, Nobody, nobody
could have envisioned that. But he's one game away, all right,
So give me every quarterback you rank ahead of Sam.

Speaker 3 (02:38:27):
Because you put him in the top ten. So I
got ten.

Speaker 5 (02:38:29):
That's better than Okay, let's hear Mahomes Burrow Lamar, Purdy, Herbert, Baker,
Caleb start again.

Speaker 3 (02:38:38):
I'm just doing SR.

Speaker 5 (02:38:39):
Mahomes, Mahomes go yeah, Burrow Okay, Lamar okay, Stafford okay,
Josh Okay, Purdy yeah, Herbert yeap, Caleb yep, Baker yep.
Jalen Hurts okay for Sam Darnold's not better than none
of those quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (02:38:57):
Of the quarterbacks because those quarterbacks you name, seven of
them have not won super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (02:39:03):
Okay, seven have not won.

Speaker 2 (02:39:05):
The only guys who have won super Bowls are Mahomes, Stafford,
and Hurts.

Speaker 3 (02:39:10):
Those are the only ones that have won super Bowls.

Speaker 2 (02:39:12):
So if he wins the Super Bowl, you have seven
quarterbacks ahead of him that have never won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
So does that make any sense?

Speaker 5 (02:39:18):
It makes perfect sense when you guys, and it makes
plaining because earlier this year, for two straight months, you
guys told me I couldn't put Hurts over Josh Allen.
Hurts has been to two and one one and outplayed the.

Speaker 3 (02:39:30):
Guy I had.

Speaker 4 (02:39:31):
I was the first guy that suggests Hurts was in
the top top but not over Allen.

Speaker 5 (02:39:35):
Though I'm not saying top five. I wasn't allowed to
put him over Allen. But he had accomplished everything we
asked quarterbacks to do. But for some reason he can't
be beat anything twice.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
But you're asking quarterbacks to do or win championships. How
about winning a single playoffs game? Candidate justin Herbert still
hasn't done.

Speaker 3 (02:39:52):
Josh can't even get there. Josh can't even get to
a super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (02:39:56):
Yeah, but he's won playoff games. Herbert hasn't won any.

Speaker 3 (02:39:59):
No, we want people to super bowls.

Speaker 5 (02:40:01):
One, I'm not. I know, I'm not worried aout playoff.
I'm wry about super Bowls. And listen, if this is
the same argument as Eli Manning Hall of Famer, you
adamantly no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
He's not because I have less guys. My hall of
Fame is like, you know, the Tom Brady's of the
world that Joe Montana's over. I would only have maybe
a total of ten quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame period.
All Right, this so Donald thirty, so Darnold playing on
this team in one good year, God.

Speaker 3 (02:40:29):
Saying it's hall of famer.

Speaker 4 (02:40:31):
No hall of famer, but he's your priority? Is it
winning super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (02:40:34):
So it's just got to be more consistent. If he
does this another three or four years, then we could
talk again.

Speaker 2 (02:40:38):
Well, then there should be only one quarterback in your list,
is Mahomes. None of these other guys are one more
than one super.

Speaker 5 (02:40:44):
It's not about winning Super Bowls. I said consistently, as
far as putting up these type of seasons.

Speaker 4 (02:40:48):
You think these other effort has been consistent for eighteen years.
Who's Matthew Stafford. He's been consistent in the last couple
of years.

Speaker 3 (02:40:55):
All Right, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:40:56):
I mean, I mean, where he's gonna actually get about?

Speaker 3 (02:40:59):
Those teams are rants? Those teams were terrible in Detroit?

Speaker 4 (02:41:02):
Did he have the best receivers?

Speaker 3 (02:41:03):
He started sixteen games? Did he year? Did he have
the best receiver in the league at his most of
those year?

Speaker 10 (02:41:09):
Take no offensive line and no running backs?

Speaker 3 (02:41:13):
All right, hey, bless everybody hours five hours. You'll definitely
want to tune in next Sunday, Dan and carry her up. Next.
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