Martin Weiss & Alex Monaco Discuss TJ Watt's Extension, Terry McLaurin's Frustrations & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You don't listening to Fox Sports radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
You know what the problem is with these kids in
this uh, these gen zs stocks me. I said, I said,
can you make a copy for me today? And he
looked at me like what he literally, I don't know
how to do this?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Are you literally the conversation like a week and a
half ago, didn't we?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Did?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
We?

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
You asked me, when was the last time I made
a copy?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Right, right right?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
But because the thing was so not to go too
far inside baseball. But the document that I have, Steve's
on the computer. He looks like it's probably already gone,
which is fine.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's fine.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
If Steve's turning to use the computer, you can do
whatever the hell he wants with you, So hand up
my bet.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I should have printed out too.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
But you may find this hard to believe if you're
under the age of thirty, but are twenty five. But
there's these machines, the same ones. In fact, when you
go to work and you got out the printer, it
can just copy the same page over and over again.
So if you just print once, copy twice, or print
three times, same impact.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I live in New York, No printers in sight in
these boxes we all live in. So making a copy,
you gotta run an errand and make a copy.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I go to work.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I put a lot of things at work, especially work
related stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios is Martin
Weiss and Alex Monaco here on a All Star Saturday.
It's been an All Star week, which means not a
lot of games have been played. Baseball finally popping back
in the flow of things. But the w NBA All
Star Game in Indianapolis has been the attention of.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
At least us without Quesh, at least us.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
A great question was Caitlyn Clark after suffering a groin
injury on Tuesday against the Sun, which reading that backwards,
I was reading that update and it's like it says
Sun and then two next to it. It's like, wait,
does she get hurt on Sunday or to non so
Caitlin Clark obviously not participating in the playing part of
all of this, and contrary to popular reports, contrary to

(02:03):
some of the news I saw come across with maybe
the AP wire. You know, things are hard to discern
what's real what's not. I'm pretty sure they're still gonna
have the game.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Oh, the game's on.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm pretty I feel confident the game is still going
to be playing.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Can we get it up on one of the TVs
in the studio just in case we can make sure
that the video evidence that this game is going to
be played without Caitlin Clark, because I was told by
many reported, like many people who I value highly in
this business, and a ton of opinions that exist. I
hear that without Caitlin Clark, why does the WNBA even exist?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Why the hot take, Mark hot Ta, why does it
even exist?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Otherwise, why why why does it even exist?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, I mean, you've been watching the w NBA for years.
I have.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
You've had some spot on takes, both on the air
and off.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Like honestly, I liked it better when I was when
it was like my little kind of pet thing in
over here, somewhere to the side.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, But this year there's so many fascinating storyline There
are numerous interesting teams, a lot of interesting rookies as
we know. And I was watching the three point contest
and I'm a part of the All Star Weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I was enjoying myself.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So last year's w NBA All Star Game was a
kind of one of those like a twist, right, you
know they did the Four Nations for hockey, they did
something similar in the WNBA, but it's like WNBA All
Stars versus you know, the US National team, right, and
that was it twenty twenty five. So this year that

(03:35):
that gets chippy and that gets intense. However, as I'm like,
I call researching is doing a lot of heavy lifting
as I say this, but that was those researching this.
There's like, there will be double teams that will be
like this is a game in which, like generally they
play hard, which is kind of what you're looking for.
Like in Major League Baseball All Star Game, No one

(03:57):
is just throwing meatballs across the home Now by the
time you get to the eighth ninth inning, are you
seeing Otani and Judge through the third time through the
under No, But the guys out there are trying, which
will be the same situation for the women who playing this.
I'm looking forward to seeing it, and honestly, I think
that we are at a place where you know, on

(04:19):
a TV show, you may have a main character like
Ted Lasso, for example, Sure, ted Lasso I think it
was the first or second season.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I can't remember which one, but if you're familiar with
both of them, just take the walk, all right.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
So ted Lasso is clearly the main character of the show,
and that's what they focus on. But one episode they
focus on the assistant coach and they go all with
the assistant coach and it follows and all of a sudden,
you see his love life, you see how he gets
to work every day, and it changes your perspective. They
go with the manager, the young manager who goes to

(04:53):
the other side. Sorry for the spoiler alert, it's been
out forever the manager, and you get a different perspective
of him, and you see him and now you're more
gratated to that character when everybody comes back together.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
The Bear took a whole season to do this season three.
By the way, if you want to skip through the
Bear season three, get right to four, save yourself, because
they go back to look Ahead Butt, Yes, chef, yes Chef, indeed,
back to you.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But see what I'm saying, Like you become more familiar
with these other stars, You become more familiar with these
other characters, and all of a sudden, you either like
you probably like to show more forward. I think a
lot of people with the bear from what I could
tell a little. Nobody likes anything on Twitter anyway, So
right now, yeah, would it be better if Caitlyn Clark

(05:33):
was participating in WNBA weekend?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I agree? I agree, I agree.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
However, you haven't a moment now where if you have
just dived into the w NBA for Caitlyn Clark. Cool,
guess what you're about to see? The was it twenty
best or twenty two best women players? Like women playing basketball?
That is that exists out there for you to watch,

(06:01):
that exists like this is the best goal, this is
what this is the Krem di la krem right here.
You're gonna watch it obviously wa finals the two best teams. Yeah,
we're talking about now across the league. This is the
perfect time to go ahead and find if you could,
if you find you could only watch Caitlin Clark, there's
somebody out there for you to find and watch in
this game.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
There's a lot.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I love what I mean. I like the idea that
you have team Caitlin. You got in a feasis team.
If you watch the w as we know, Colliers a
ton of chock to win the w NBA MVP, as
you should lead the best team. But now we have
turnover also that Commissioner's Cup going on a third year,

(06:42):
the losing team kind of similar to the Bucks beating
the Thunder in the tournament, as we know within the NBA.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
That's new. We have that storyline.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
But now we got a little bit of We got
rookies that are interesting on this court tonight, as Kyler Diggins,
who's got the storm humming out fit their six right
now on.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The futures board.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
There's just a lot not to mention who you've been
all over before everyone was the page Bucker storyline, which
is fascinating in and of itself.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
That's honestly who I am kind of hoping rises to
the occasion tonight because that is the page Beckers is
to me right now, the foil for Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Every hero needs a villain.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Every villain needs to hear tell right, like you can't
just like, in order to have greatness, you also have
to have you have to have in order to have greatness,
you have to have a few things. Yeah, First of all,
you have to have terrible. You can't have terrible without
you can't have great without terrible. You also have people
pushing you that you know, higher and higher and higher.
You also have like ghosts to chase quote unquote, or
you see across the league where you see Larry and Magic.

(07:48):
They're pushing each other, right, you know what I'm saying,
Like the that's how I think players reach their maximum potential.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Peyton and Tom Brady, we're pushing each other.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Now.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Obviously Tom Brady a lot more success than that.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But you look at the other quarterbacks on AFC, like, oh, oh, Lamar,
you got an MVP, Josh Allen, let me go get
one like that type of that's the competition and inside
the competition of the games is the competition of the greats.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
We mentioned quarterbacks. How many quarterbacks are on this court tonight.
If we're talking about leaders of their team, Angel Reaes
a quarterback, without question, I would put Diggins in that
in that category. We know Beckers is we know as
as everyone knows. Asia Wilson's been a franchise quarterback over
there in Las Vegas. So there's just emerging. There's rookies,

(08:34):
there are stars, and one thing we know about the
w Martin it is a physical league I'm actually very
excited to see what kind of All Star game we see.
Do we see more of an NBA style where it's
a lot more shot making and everyone kind of allows
everyone to do their thing and showcase their skills. Are
we going to watch a what we see every night

(08:55):
in the WNBA, A hard nosed fuck game. Let's say
you on that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think it'd be closer to the second, just because
I think what happens for a lot of this, like
the idea of the business decision does not exist in
the w NBA in the same way it does in
the NBA, where if I am standing under the rim,
I'm not worried about somebody, you know, dunking all over
my back in the in the w NBA, and as

(09:20):
a result of that, you're pushed up more like the
whole verticality at the rim does not exist in the
same way. So the game, while having the same rules
of the game, is played a little differently. Physicality is
the way that you gain an advantage, right, A lot
of guys jump over somebody. There's nobody jumping over in
this all you go over or through. If you can't

(09:41):
go over, well we're gonna go through. I love it.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Also, we got a top tier rebound off between Angel
and Asia who are on different teams, which I think
is gonna be fascinating. There Again, if you watch this league,
there is a lot of riveting storylines and I'm excited
as we continue to talk.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So I actually saw you know, I'm not the gambler
I once was, because I'm gambling with my life apparently
getting married.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Just get getting married.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
But honestly, with the amount of good things costs, I
could buy two cars, right, so in.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Two parlay right exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
So I haven't been betting in the same way, but
I did see a few sprinkles. I thought I was
maybe thirty five to one Angel Reese to win the
MVP of this guy. I saw that that worries me
because she's so popular, right Like, I am not a
fan of betting on the most popular player when she
may not be and well, in this case, is not.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
The best player.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
That cause gives me cost trick a certain because I
know the books work, even though if I can't beat
them all the time, I may understand how they work.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Listen, as you used to alluded to it. Ocean's eleven
Terry Bennet did not. Benedict did not build that city
off of winning tickets at i e. Everyone going with
the chocked your point, so you're onto something there for this.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Even so, the last non guard to win the w
NBA Alsar Game MVP was Maya More. Oh wow, right,
so Kansas Parker the last true post player, which is
kind of what I'm thinking about this Angel rees Asia Wilson,
I agree with you. I'm looking at one of the
forwards that's probably the player to dominate this game.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The year, probably too in that come over.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Absolutely so I'm just thinking about who am I betting on?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Who I like. We'll keep an eye on it for you,
don't you worry.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
But going speaking of those the desert out there in Vegas,
two moves, I wonder if they moved any of the odds.
I mean, this city got two new additions. Did the
odds move one bit? We'll get to that coming up
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Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yes, sir, We'll get to your tweets throughout the show.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
So the news he broke Earlier today, Marcus Smart agreed
to a contract buy out with the Washington Wizards and
signs our plans to sign, intends to sign, will eventually
sign a two year, eleven million dollar deal with the
Los Angeles Lakers after clearing waivers. Par Sham's Sharania now

(13:17):
mark Smart with twenty twenty two defensive player of the year.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Bradley Beal a couple of days ago, agreed to a
much wealthier contract buy out than Marcus Smart did with
the Wizards Beals with the Suns. He's joining the Clippers
two years, eleven million dollars with a player option.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
I found it.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Very funny and ironic that both of these deals were
for two years and eleven million dollars with ex Wizards,
with ex Wizards, with ex Wizards who were paid to
leave right but both these years for two years eleven
million dollars. I found it funny because both of them
made me feel kind of the exact same way.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Really was.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
All right, I mean, wow.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Honestly, you might real fuck.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
When I saw this happen, I thought that the that
the first day of free agency, there's a lot of
talking heads saying free agency is dead. Oh no, whatever
will we do if there's not a big free agent move?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
And I was like, this is so overblown.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Who cares if there's a big free agent move, We
don't there are free agent moves.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
By nature.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
One will be like, we don't know what the big
free agent move is yet, like you know, the like
the big free agent move last year, was Isaiah Hartenstein
going to Oklahoma City because Chet Holmgren was invisible in
that finals And no, seriously, right and I Hartenstein was
able to go in there and play well in that postseason.

(14:49):
And I'm not saying it's the reason why they won,
but when Chet wasn't playing well, they had a guy
they signed. Now, when he was signed, I don't think
anybody in New York was.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Like, what are you doing? We can how can you lay?
I heard go what are you doing? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't think that was happening. I like that New
York impression right there.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
That's how.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
But so the biggest free agent move of the summer
will eventually reveal itself.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'll be shocked if it's one of these two.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Here's the thing, though, we've only seen Marcus Smart marn
in fifty four games over the last two seasons. I
went back to triple check. This was not just a
player for the Boston Celtics. And you mentioned Defensive Player
of the Year, and that's not just Defensive player of
the Year, that's three time All Defense First Team Marcus Smart.
How did he show up in pivotal moments when you

(15:38):
go play for the Wizards with a side of Memphis
in the last two years. You don't even play competitive basketball.
This is my angle with Aighton. Now you're going to
be playing in the bright lights again. This is a
guy that averaged fifteen five and four in the NBA Finals.
He had three games of three threes, one game of four.
That's music to Luca's ears. And I just saw it,

(16:01):
as ESPN tweeted before we got on, Luca helped in
the recruiting process. That's not nothing, Martin.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
So it also and apparently it's heavily reported that James
Harden did a similar role in Bradley Beal's recruitment to
Los Angeles, which cause, that's.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
A little funny though, that's a little well.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
All right, so I'll all right, I'll we'll confect the
momalist stick on the mark your smart thing. Here's the
problem with the mark you smart deal, Like you've already
outlined some of it. Fifty four games in the last
two years, played twenty minutes a game last year. Player
who is maybe a year younger than me, you know,
two years younger than me. So I know that he's

(16:42):
put it like this. We're both past our primes. Okay,
and so and I'm I'm thirty five for the record,
but so so, Mark, you're smart and that when Washington
and when Boston moved off of him, that's when they
won the finals. Like they were in the Eastern Conference

(17:05):
finals all this time, and they moved off of Marcus
Smart and added Drew Holliday and that's when they won
the finals. That is not an indictment of Marcus Smart necessarily,
but it's just telling me, if you are a team
that has expectations of winning championships, right, I'm not sure
how well Marcus Smart fits on your team.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
If you are a team with a.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Bunch of young No, you told me that Marcus Smart
was gonna go be a Charlotte Hornet for two years
eleven million dollars, I'd be like, that's a great deal.
To day if he can help LaMelo and some of
these guys grow up a bit.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Can he be though, what the Lakers need him to be,
which is a two way player, a three and D guy,
and an agitator slash disruptor. That's what I remember Marcus
Smart being, particularly in that Golden State Finals.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I just can't imagine that at a high level, like
O say for a consistent amount of time, Like, can
you ask me, can Marcus Smart do a one game?

Speaker 4 (18:03):
Sure? Four games?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Can he do it?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Sixteen wins before I lose four to a row?

Speaker 4 (18:11):
I guess if you're a Laker fan, and that remains
to be seen. But if you're a Laker fan, Martin,
you go, all right, we lost Dorian are three in
d main acquisition this season, this past season, we.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Got to do something.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
I think you're not not upset if you land Smart today.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I mean at two years to eleven million dollars, I
cannot get like, I cannot get freaked out and lose
my mind about it.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
But when I look at the Lakers offseason as a whole.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Because you were saying, can can Marcus Smart be what
the Lakers need to be?

Speaker 7 (18:41):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
What the Lakers need is a seventh footer who could
block shots at rebound and get down the court.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
It gets a lot from look at Dodgets.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Well, don't worry, Aytan's in town, baby.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Like I said, what the Lakers need is a seventh
footer who could block shots at rebound.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Cats look at Dog.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
So I just kind of feel like we know, sure,
you know, But when your big free Asian acquisitions are
two guys who were paid by their jobs to leave.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
I just have to say this because it's the same
sentiment with Ayton.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
You go to Portland, you're.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Relevant in today's NBA, which I'm we'll get to later
in the show. I cannot be more upset with Dame
going back to where it's comfortable, but putting on that
for now Ayton. And this is off the rain man
Noggin Martin. I believe that twenty one points in nineteen
rebounds in an NBA Finals Game one win, if I'm

(19:35):
not mistaken, that's who DeAndre Ayton is. Some of these
guys because you're rich. This is and this is actually
a shout out to my girlfriend's dad saying when you
pay someone that much, you take the venom out of
their belly. It's an old school mantra, but the reality
is you take a guy like Ayton out of an
NBA Finals team to Portland where he's not even playing

(19:57):
five hundred basketball, and if you don't have that deal
and you you do fall by the wayside when all
eyes are on you in Hollywood. With these two men,
I think you're getting the best versions of smart and eight.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
You might you might, so I guess, and so to
that perspective then and from to tell me does this
extrapolate further out? So I guess we're seeing fifty forty,
ninety and seventy games played for Bradley Beal down at the.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
End of time.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
See, that's a whole nother recruitment.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, okay, Well the page is when the team goes
down to Anglewood.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, this this is the younger This is the younger brother,
This is the bad Luck Clippers, this is the this
is the Mets to the Yankees. If we're giving another
comparison as far as in town rivals and where they
are on the hierarchy, this is Jay V Devarsity James Harden,
who's bounced around in how many jerseys in the last
several years.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
It's almost laughable.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
You're recruiting people he just wanted his money and ideally
a warm climate. Now he's happy as a clam. The
reality is he's recruiting a guy that I'm over here
double checking Martin fifty five and fifty one in two
years in Phoenix they played under Bradley Beal games. This
guy is an under five hundred player across the board. See,

(21:08):
you recruit a guy who's from a wizard culture, it
remains to be seen if he's a winner. You recruit
a guy like Marcus Smart who played under Brad Stevens,
went to the NBA finals, tasted that court, that's a
different recruitment in my humble opinion. Okay, I could buy that.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I could buy you know, he's been to the playoffs.
One a highlight, Oh you know, I had highlight. This
is the thing that really gets me though, And after
this we'll kick it to Steve. But the thing that
really I do not understand this at all, And maybe
it's just like a function of agents knowing they can
get it out of team, so they get it. The

(21:45):
amount of player options that are offered in contracts is
staggering to me. I like, what was it that Bradley
Bradley Beal just signed Brad Beial which is over one
hundred and some million dollars a player options? Damian Lillard,
I have one more achilles than he does the option.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
That's honestly incredible. You make a great point like in
the NF and now you're putting Bradley Beale in seventy
three degrees in Sonny with a light breeze. You think
he's showing up and showing out. The man is fed
and he's never won in his entire career. He's up
there with Kirk Cousins getting paid and not producing wins.

(22:27):
I'm sorry that contract was the worst contract in the
NBA over there in PHX.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But it's just I just after, you know, like, if
it all goes right, right, if it all goes according
to plan and the Clippers win a championship and Bradley
Beal is a twenty point twenty five point per game score,
plays seventy five games in the regular season, Hell, third

(22:52):
team All NBA, guess what he's gone?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Do you know why the flair?

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Because he's going to be a free agent and somebody's
gonna pay a twenty seven million dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Now, let's kick it over to Steve to Sayer.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Steve am I off on this because I feel like
fifteen years ago player options were like reserved for Lebron James.

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Actually, the thing I've hated most about NBA contracts is,
like the Marcus Smart story today is that they get
their money and get to pick where they go, Like
you're being rewarded for not being as good as you
used to be.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Like and if the organization makes the decision they want
to wave whatever, do your thing. But it's just like
the idea that it's like, you know what, as matter
of fact, you get to pick next year if we
want you back. Like Brad Bill at two years and
eleven million dollars, I like that deal.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Five and a half per.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Year, no late career.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
Everybody's getting the one plus one and announcing it as
a two year deal as if the team has something
to do with This.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Is a five year This is a five million dollar
contract with the opportunity to, if it goes terribly, make
five more million dollars.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Anyway, back to you, Le's.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
Start with Mookie Betts not playing at Dodgers Stadium tonight.
That's one of the two late games the Dodgers will
be hosting a Brewers team that's won eight in a row.
First pitch in a half an hour since Bets became
the full time shortstop this year. He's betting two forty
one this season. Bets is a two ninety one career hitter.
He is getting tonight off Astro's at Mariners coming up

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in an hour. Twins at Rockies just getting underway. Diamondbacks
lead eight nothing over Saint Louis in the bottom of
the fourth inning a Uhenio Suarez with two home runs.
He has thirty three on Fox TV for most of
the country. The game at Wrigley Field, Cubs shutting out
Boston three to nothing in the top of the fifth.
Braves now lead the Yankees five nothing in the bottom

(24:43):
of the fourth inning. Slumping Tigers have no hits yet
going to the sixth inning. At Texas, Rangers four nothing
over Detroit. As lead three to two at Cleveland in
the top of the six Oriols shutting out the Rays
in Tampa to nothing in the bottom of the sixth.
The Padres at Nationals game got a late start rain
delay at the beginning of over an hour. It's now
bottom of the third. San Diego tied two to two

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against the Nats. White Sox leading at Pittsburgh eight to
four in the bottom of the sixth, and at Philadelphia.
Phil's now lead Kyle Schwarber with a grand slam in
the sixth, home run number thirty two. Phillies lead the
Angels seven to five in the bottom of the seventh inning,
and the Mets already lost at home today five two
to Cincinnati. Miami beat Kansas City three to one. Toronto

(25:26):
over San Francisco six to three. Scottie Scheffler leads the
open by four strokes after a third round sixty seven.
The Saints gave second round quarterback Tyler Schuck a fully
guaranteed contract. Bengals first round edge rusher Shamar Stewart is
still unsigned. Veteran edge rusher Von Miller is due to
officially sign with Washington on Monday. The WNBA All Star

(25:47):
Game starts up in a few minutes in Indianapolis. Guard
Marcus Smart agreed to a buy out with the Wizards
and will reportedly signed with the Lakers. In the quarterfinals
of the Women Soccer Euros, Germany won on penalty kick,
eliminating France. The semi start Tuesday on Fox TV with
England against Italy. A reminder of the next IndyCar Race
is Sunday on Fox on the Streets of Toronto.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
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(26:30):
Sunday morning right here on the Fox Sports Radio I'm sorry,
right here on Fox Radio, Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app. So, uh, you know, this is one of
the things I full disclosure, am a parachute and viewer
to golf majors. That's right, Like I'm not like I'm

(26:52):
not setting an alarm to wake up and watch the Open,
you know.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, Now, if I was up early watching Peak, I
got you.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Right, No, I feel you like so like watching Rory
you know, snip snap, snip snap on the seventeen and
eighteen going to the Masters, like playoff, no playoff, playoff,
no playoff?

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Did he get the Grand Slam?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
And then actually going through that cinematic Okay, it's one
of the most one of the best things I've seen
in sports in the last three years. I put it
even and since sports relaunched past COVID, one of the
most like touching and like I am into this, yeah,
but it's all going by Friday, Like I don't want

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to watch the next you know, the next opening round.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Okay, So that that's me, So I dive into this
from that perspective.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Scottie Scheffler right now had an eagle on seven in
the third round, fourteen under with a massive massively right,
and it's like at this.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Point not SA is just his to lose.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
But I'll put it like this, you have to put
a whole lot of money better to win a whole
little bit of money on Scotty Sheffler right now.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's facts. And if he does inc in martinize three
fourths of the way to that career slam and he's
in great for him.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I mean, is he a polarizing watch to your point
about Rory obviously what Tiger was for the sport not
even close. No, but he is all ball and he
does show up and he does show out.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
So Scotty was asked earlier this week about you know,
something along the lines of legacy and how and winning,
and he gave a really kind of profound answer. I
want to hear what scott he had to say about,
you know, kind of on that subject.

Speaker 8 (28:43):
Is it great to be able to win tournaments and
to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf.
Yet it brings tears my I just to think about
because it's literally worked my entire life to become good
at the sport. And to have that kind of sense
of accomplishment, I think is a pretty cool feeling, you know,
to get to live out your dreams.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
It's very special.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
But at the end of the day, I'm not out
here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I don't
I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the
best player in the world, because what's the point. You know,
this is not a fulfilling life. It's it's fulfilling from
the sense of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a
sense of like the deepest places of your heart.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Now, Monico, when I heard that from Scheffler earlier this
week before, like this is the pre tournament media and
so on, it'say, oh, man, what a profound statement.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
You know, meditative little California or very stoic, very like
there is no good.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
There is no bad.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
There just is, like, man, you know, what a way
to live.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
But then today as I looked at the leaderboard and
I saw he was five strokes up on everybody, eagling seven.
And if I'm third place in this tournament, I'm like, oh,
f this guy out of here.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
You're not fulfilled? Why don't you take it? You know what, Ricky, Bobby,
why don't you finish this second every so often?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
You know, finish the second every so when you cal
Norton get a win, you see how that feels, because
you know, you know who would love to be unfulfilled
everybody else, because Gotty Scheffler takes the three wood to
be two a to everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Do you think just kind of taking a step back
for that comment, is it a.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Different way of winning because you now have lived? I
mean he's winning in rocking up tournaments? Yes, this has
Kopka rom et cetera. In this tournament because it's a major, sure,
But week to week it's a fascinating statement, he said.
And I don't know if you feel that way. Maybe

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if you're going against a full field seek to.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Week, I think it has less to do with that.
But I can appreciate where you're coming from. I think
there's less to do with that and more to do
with like I just had a kid a year ago. Remember,
he was like I might he was ready to pull
out from the Masters because of whether the birth of
his child, the timing of it all right. So he
was prepared to make that decision. He wasn't didn't have to,
but it was a story at the time. It strikes

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me as a guy who, like I said, that's things
in his family, not bad things.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
There's things he wants to be there for right wants
to watch his kid probably take his first walk, say
his first word.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
And the amount of time that it requires to be
as dominant at golf as he is.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
You missed that stuff. It's a sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
But the thing that I can't shake Matt Fitzpatrick right
now is in third. He's uh in second place, drop
drop dropped the third place. I'm sorry he started the round,
the second and third round he dropped the third place.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
You don't think he works hard, You don't think he's sacrificing.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You don't say, like, could you imagine if the guy
ahead of you at whatever your job is, wherever you're at,
and that guy is like, you.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Know, I don't even really like this.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Bleep, So you're saying this is as bad for business.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
No, I'm just I just am putting myself in everybody
else's shoes. When you've been number one in the world
for one hundred and forty six out of one hundred
and fifty three weeks, you know, yeah, it's easy to
be like, hey, man, you know it's overrated being number
one in the world. But when you're number one in
the world for one week, that's the best week of

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your life.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Well, this is why, to give a parallel example here,
when you go from the French Open and Alcaraz sauces
Cinner in five hours and thirty nine minutes, and then
at the end of the month Sinner sauces Alcaraz at
another major in Wimbledon. We need that, we need someone
to center Alcaraz, this man so he can stop talking

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like this because he's tired of winning.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's too easy for me and you guys something to
say old.

Speaker 9 (32:38):
I wonder if the big criticism with Scheffler, at least
lately has been at least since he became so dominant,
is that he's just not that interesting of a guy.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's what it is, Ian, right, It's what you said
Mark at the top where's the villain? Who's the villain
to Scheffler right now?

Speaker 9 (32:53):
And golf doesn't necessarily have that, But I wonder if
this makes him a little more polarizing of a guy.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Maybe not interest thing is no, no, I've seen some
scorch or takes coming off of that, but yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Mean exactly because this is a statement that I think
to some people it makes him harder to root for because,
like you said, you know Matt Fitzpatrick, who's at the top.
If someone's really rooting for Matt Fitzpatrick, like he's been
working his whole life, he I don't know if he's
won one before or not, but it's like, you know,
this is everything his life has led up to. Chef
was won multiple times already and he doesn't even feel
fulfilled by it if he does win.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
So it's like, why should I root for that guy?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Martin and I don't have kids, and I don't know
Ian if you're if you're rocking one, but we're over here, fatherless,
trying to understand this guy winning and then raising a
kid and what means more.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
But I can't.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I am sympathetic to while I don't have any kids,
I am sympathetic to the idea of your life, of
moving into a new stage of life and feeling differently
about things that I like. There are things that I
did not expect to consider, you know, as I'm a
approach in getting married like I didn't consider you know,
I'm not we're up against.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
Well, that's my point is I just wonder if this
makes it harder for some people to root for him,
and therefore makes it a little more interesting.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
And I think point, I think you can use it
in more ways than one, especially if he blows tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Now we're honest to your point is what harder to roof?
For sure?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I think more just the better, the more people, the
more things you say, the more opinions people will have
of you, and opinion.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
That's the point. We need a rival.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
We need to shoot him a cabin out there.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
So you know, that was Ian right there, who writes
for Jets x factor dot com, which I googled this story,
and I'll tell you Jets x factor dot com was
the third link to pop up.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I'm just saying that, yeah, that's the s c O.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yes O yet, but we'll get the Jets made some
interesting moves. I want to get Monaco's take on as
a guy who almost got a gang green tat too
last year with Aaron Rodgers and an actual diet in
the world Jets fan, how do I feel We'll get
to it next.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Radio, coming to Alphy, Fox Sports Radio Studios, Martin Weis
and Alex Monico.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
So the New York Jets. What's go now?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
We're talking made some news extending Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson.
Sauce four years one hundred and twenty point four million,
Garrett Wilson four years, one hundred and thirty million, offensive
and rook Offensive and defensive Rookies of.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
The Year in the same year. That's right, getting done
a year early. Alex to me, you know what this says?
What does it mean?

Speaker 2 (35:46):
This says that both like Aaron Glenn, like he said
he wanted the job, and everybody's like, yeah, all right,
you know what I'm saying. Okay, you know he said
he wanted the job, getting this deal done, getting these
two deals done, because the whole ownership and I'm just

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saying ownership, the whole front office is kind of built
in Aaron Glenn's vision. Right, he hired the GM Like,
there's all it's kind of the same way in Chicago.
It's all kind of Ben Johnson's vision save Ryan Poles.
Same thing in New York to sign and get these
deals done before ever coaching and actual game.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Says to me, Aaron.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Glenn wasn't talking, He wasn't talking out the less side
of his mouth when he said, I am trying to
be in New York. I wanted to be a New
York Jet. This is the team I wanted to coach,
because you know this is to me, says, this is
our core, this is who we're locking up. And the
best part about it is as we transition and we
talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers the top of next hour. Yeah,
talk about Michael Parsons at the top of an hour,

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and we'll talk about another professional league that Neils also
is dealing with some finances.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
The Jets and a rare move.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Handled this well before they needed and these deals are
going to end up looking spectacular. Remember those people who
bought mortgages when he had a one point nine interest rate.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
That's what he is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I love the hands right there too.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You gave a lot. That's a lot of ethos pathos.
Look two twenty four year olds. You mentioned offensive player,
defensive player, rookie of the years. This is music to
Jets fans ears. The number one thing AG comes in
and does out the gate is establish his leaders. There
is big time turnover here at the quarterback position when

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you go from a man who's approaching forty to a
guy still in his athletic prime and justin Fields who
hasn't really found a home right. So the best thing
you can do in getting him comfortable in his new
habitat is a familiar weapon. And then secondarily, what does
AG know better than anything in this league how to
coach up DB's being a dB on this team himself.

(37:56):
But I'm telling you, Martin, this is a trick compound
effect because these guys have the.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Ear of the locker room.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
They've been through the turnover of the last couple of years,
which has been a lot for two twenty four year olds,
And I think it's a perfect timing to lock these
boys in.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I mean, I really like these deals. I like the
deals honestly better than I like the player. Like you know,
but to me, if for both of them, if you like,
but if you like these players.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
This is how you do it. Now, let me ask
you this, because they're over four to one to just
make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I went as far as.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Saying they're my favorite non playoff team at plus money
in Vegas to run the table and get in maybe
as a seventh seed in the AFC. Can you go
as far as saying that again, ag inherited the worst
Lions defense.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
In the league.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
He's had two top five rundes in the last two years.
Jets were third in yards again yards allowed on the
defensive side. They come in with a little momentum.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm ready to say they will be competing for a
playoff spot. I'm not ready to say they will win it.
I have to look at the odds to be able
to truly answer your question. But for the layman to
answer it, I will say I think by like in
week fourteen, the Jet, like you know, they do the
end the Hunt playoff graphic, the Jets will.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Be in the middle.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
They won't have clinched the division, but they will be
right there, squarely in the middle, and they're not gonna
be over there to the side like seven to eight
like some teams are.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Yeah, let me throw this to you though.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
My guy shot at Eric Coleman, former safety for the
New York Jets, just did a show with him in
New York this past week. And the main thing he said,
who works for the Jets as well as a broadcaster.
You're not hearing a lot of noise. No, you are
not hearing any Jets offseason talk. That's almost an anomally.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
And then I had to go millennial with it.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
And you'll appreciate this as I said, what a Lil
Wayne say back in the day, Real gee's moving silence
like lasagna.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And that's exactly what Aaron Glenn is. He is a
leader of.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Men, quietly establishing culture, ready to smack everyone in the
AFC East Mouth in just a few Sundays.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Gonna be interesting, like everybody's really in on the Patriots
like that seems to be like the sexy.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Oh this is my worst to first, depending.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
How you feel about Drake May And I don't get
me wrong, I'm you'll be hard pressed to find a
bigger fan of Mike Rabel than the guy who's speaking
right now in this moment. I just know, like I said,
how the good they're gonna be? I'm not sure I don't.
I'm not picking them to win a Super Bowl, but
I really like what this team is doing. I like

(40:27):
their mission. It seems like they have a plan very
much the opposite of another team in the AFC.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
We'll get to that next.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Sometimes you just see headlines You're like, wait a minute,
that can't be right, especially in this day and age.
Martin Wiss, Alex Monico coming to you live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. You're on a Fox Sports Saturday.
I do have to say, uh, so far the competition
in WNBA All Star Game, I'm a man of honesty,

(40:58):
has not necessarily been as physicals even Titans up a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
It's been a little loosey goosey thus far. Yeah, if
you took the over in the first quarter, you cast several.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Men, you're feeling good about that. You are definitely feeling
good about that. So uh, when I read that TJ.
Watt was the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history
for the second time in his career, tell I was
just like, really, it's those little things like sure, I mean,

(41:30):
you know, say the timing and all.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
That, Like if you if you had if you had
made me guess who would.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Have would have been? I would have got the defensive end.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
I would mean Parsons. You would have lean Parsons when.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
You no, I know Parsons, God know, he has gotten
extended again. Who would have been the highest paid? Like
for this trivia question? Right after this trivia question, I
probably would have guessed like Miles Garrett. That's fair, you know,
probably guess Miles Garrett, but uh, it's good.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Guess t J.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Watt who turns thirty one in October three years thirty
one hundred and thirty one hundred twenty three million dollars
one not wait fully guaranteed forty one million average. That's
that's more than it costs for Jamar Chase or Miles
Garrett to come and play for your team.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
So here's my you're in on this.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'm two feet in on this.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So I mean, yeah, last five seasons, seventy three and
a half sacks. That's the most in the NFL. That's correct.
So that's a lot of help, you know, obviously, is
the best you can get over the last five years.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Tell me why you love this deal so much? Because
I honestly saw I was like.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Interesting. This is arguab but well we can go macro
and micro by the numbers. Adding to what you just said,
He's led the league in sacks three of his eight seasons.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
He's led in force fumbles twice.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
You go win loss with him, win loss without him,
they're one in ten without him, they're seventy nine to
forty and two with them. He's one of the most
physically imposing defensive disruptors I've ever seen with mia digmatism
in my entire life. But you go culture with it,
and in Aaron Rodgers. This could go off the Enigma

(43:08):
two rails real quick for the Netflix comeback or sequel.
This guy makes sure on one side of football, the
side of football we know Tomlin is able to handle best.
I'll let you take that one. This is your staple signing.
This keeps the defense intact. It gives you, without question,

(43:32):
a top ten defense coming into this season.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
And you know where I'm at with the Rogers angle.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
It's a top ten talent with a top ten company culture.
I don't see how it fails. The only way it
was headed towards under five hundred land was if this
man was not wrapped up. Now he's wrapped up with
several weeks to go in the season. I love it
for morale, and I love it just as much on paper.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
So not to discount anything that you just said, but
you said the Steelers are one in ten, one and eleven,
something that we kind of did the matter there. Yeah,
point of the matter is in the time that TJ.
White's not played, that they have only won one game
without them.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
That's correct. Point of the matter. Though how many playoff
games have they won?

Speaker 4 (44:19):
We can't look to the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
That's why I'm saying. Look, that's what I'm saying. I
agree with you. I agree with Cam Hayward who said
last week, if the trade even gets up there, he's
going up to Omark Conn and saying that's not happening.
I don't think it helps our team to trade a
guy like that. I don't think that this year's version
of the Pittsburgh Steelers are better today if they traded TJ.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
White yesterday. No, I said, I don't. I do not think.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I do not think, though, but I think the Pittsburgh
Steelers five year sure, I might be, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
And when you have his on the seventeenth hole of
his eighteenth whole career. Aaron Rodgers might be on eighteen
if it is this one song out, you don't have
the lux or even worry about that right now. You
can't worry about that.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Right now.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
Everyone's on the Budweiser hot seat throw back to old
school sports center. Everybody in Steelers country is on the
hot seat. That's why he got this number. And credit
to his agent forgetting that.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Now, I wonder if they are they just they just
extended the GM three years.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Omar Con just got the extension.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Mike Tomlin again, like we said, hasn't won a playoff
game in his last eight tries. And I'm not I
personally I would not fire Mike tom However, I could
understand the reachs. You can make an argument for fire
and just about anybody. I think Mike tom will be
hired like like snip snap real quick, yeah, if he

(45:44):
was available, but for this, like the Pittsburgh Steelers of
what we're doing going forward.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
If I'm in that organization.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Like they are, there moves this off season are such
of a team that was one or two plays away
from winning a championship? To me, like are one or two,
they felt like there were one or two players away
from winning a championship. They're like, oh, you know what
we could do if we just get this guy in
our building.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
This is the difference maker we need. I can get
behind that thinking.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I see what you're saying, but I don't agree with
the style of thinking when you just look at the landscape.
Here's the problem, Pittsburgh, you're playing the AFC. Here's the
other problem. You're playing the AFC North. The Bankals have
opted out of defense this year. Apparently they drafted their
first round and said, hey, you know what, maybe we're
better off without you, and got Trey Henderson. Might you
know what, you can stay where you're at too, right?

(46:39):
And they said, well, page of ar Chase TJ Watt
money and you know they let's see how it goes Jison,
they got CJ. Whyite got Paige ar Chase buddy, But
either way the point remains. Bankals said, well, you know,
we'll just Paara receiver. We're gonna throw the ball over
the place. Baltimore has just got what a two time MVP,
and then you know.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
So, yeah, but you got two teams to the AFC.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
That are real competitors.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, that are if if any, It is not invalid
to have either one of those teams as your super
Bowl pick at the start of the season.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Right if you.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Say, like there's some teams are If you pick the
New Orleans Saints, who just guaranteed the fortieth overall pick
ten million dollars, that team is invalid. That is invalid.
If you pick them, you should be fired. No, everyone
should be surprised. Those two teams are valid. And that's
just the North. Then you go Buffalo, you know, and
you pay in Buffalo, Houston. Whoever wins that division, whoever

(47:35):
wins the South, like the Steelers really do what fifth
or sixth best team maybe on paper in this like
and I get it. It just seems to me like TJ.
Watt he should be a one helmet guy. I get it,
I feel it. But it's like, dude, is this the
headline you really want?

Speaker 4 (47:52):
I guess. So they're renting a quarterback this year, so
you have to think you're paying him this money. You're
paying him quarterback money. But he is the emotional leader
of this team. Who else leads this team on the
field more than TJ. Watt? There is no other answer,
you had to make this deal kind of in alignment

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with what you were saying. They kind of think that
they're this far away, but they're really not, but they
might be.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
That's the moves.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
They've made prior to now forces them to make this deal.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
That's fair, but it's like this is just to me,
the snowball of it all.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
But you completely lose the locker room, and it's all
on Rogers, who probably isn't even in Pittsburgh right now
because he's a California guy and he's in Tahoe playing
in a golf tournament one week, and as he should be,
but neither here nor there. You lose the entire locker
room if you don't sign this guy.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Speaking of that Tahoe golf tournament, what life you play golf?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
We play like happy Gilmore or two.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I might have to start playing this golf tournament. Everybody
goes to this golf tournament. A friend of mine is
Courks for she covers golf and will call me in
years past like, Hey, I'm gonna be interviewing Josh Allen, Patser, Mahomes,
Christian McCaffrey, George Kettle, and Trent Williams. Like, do you
know who these people are? And I'm like, yeah, I
can help you out here. Don't like because sure enough

(49:22):
when liv split, I called her like yo, so he
explained it like I'm.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Five because I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, I might have to go to this golf Tournament'
not bad weekend up there.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Dan, it's you know, Lake Tahoe can't beat it.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
But this is twofold, though, Martin, you don't feel there's
an element of because Justin Fields did not bomb as
the leading man, and I don't really think Russell Wilson
completely bombed as the leading man, and they moved off
both of them to bring in a guy that didn't
play winning football, which I'm okay with most aren't. The

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only thing that's been constant over there in Pittsburgh is
the it's front seven and the defense. And this reminds you,
all right, they're keeping multiple ways to win games open
by bringing them back.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
So I okay, I agree with you there, and I
don't want to labor the point, but we will. I
think what happened between Fields and Wilson pure speculation, completely
and totally just saying I just.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Felt like this happened.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I think Russell Wilson had a promise by Pittsburgh that
he was going to be the starter right before he signed.
I think he got hurt in training camp. Then Justin
Fields went four and two. Yeah, and they said we're
gonna keep our promise to you. Instead of going with
Justin Fields. Justin Field says, I'm foreign to playing some

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of the best ball in my career and you're gonna
take me out of here.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Well, I'm definitely not coming back. You're back on your inspector,
And so.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I kind of feel like that's what happened, and it
makes me wonder about Mike Tomlin in general. I feel
like there's a good argument to be made that he
has a blind spot for offensive players. But we'll get
to that at the top of next hour. Right now,
let's take a second and just touch on this because
it's not a full topic, but we should talk about
the w NBA came out today and their warm ups

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for the All Star Game, and all their warm.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Ups said pay what you pay me what I am?

Speaker 4 (51:21):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Was it pay what you owe? Yeah, like, pay us
what we're owed, let me pay.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I think it was pay us what we're old, because
pay what you owe is a kind of a you know,
but but pay what you owe and pay us what
we're old, and that's what you owe us.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Pay us what you owe us.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
And that is a statement that I can already see
without having been on Twitter, without having even people listening
to me right now are probably jamming their finger trying
to change the station because it's like out of the league.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Doesn't even make money out of out of this that
the third.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Just take a moment and juxtapose what's happening right now
with the NFL players union and what's happening right now
with the w NBA players and the way they talk
about their players union. You talk about a league that
has uh is strung, that would say struggling, But the NFL,

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they'll be fine. The NFL locks out for a year,
the NFL locks out for two years, guess what, there
will be just more pressure to get football back.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
That's what people will want.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Yeah, if this league locks out, if something happens to
this league, a lot of people will say, we'll dance
on the grave. The idea of what the WNBA players
are doing to me, it's not only is it the
only it's the only time they can is right now.
This is the only time you talk about NFL players
when they hold out, Oh you like training camp and like, oh, well,

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Branton Ayuka is not a whole den for half the
you know, all training camp.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
What's he doing? Why does he do it?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Because they didn't negotiate the deal at the time they
had the opportunity to. That's why we have all this
other stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Just ask J. C.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Tredder. That's why he's in trouble. What the WNBA is
doing right now. I just think it is an important
story with their CBA and all that forty players showed
up to the pre All Star Game meeting for the CBA.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
They are serious about it.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
And when you have the last point, I'll make the
Golden State Valkyries who have played less than a full
season are getting valuations of what was one hundred times.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
More just three years ago.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
They literally cannot do anything but what they're doing right now,
and I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Just glad they're doing it.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
I'm glad they're doing it one hundred one hundred thousand dollars.
As a professional athlete, when you're on national television and
a part of everybody's programs in the sports broadcasting world,
it's just unacceptable. Like you said, you nailed it. I
don't knowly have too much more to add. They had
to do it right now. They did it.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Hopefully was hurt and they real quick, those guys.

Speaker 9 (53:53):
The timing of it, though, with the fact that they
just slashed the prices of the tickets in half, does
that not play into.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
It all because it doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
It doesn't matter to me because, like I understand you
on today, right today, But Caitlin Clark is not dead.
She just has a groin injury. She's not retired. She
has a groin injury, and that rising tide will lift
all the other boats. Is she the like that's been
the point. Is she the best player in the league.
I don't know, she's not, Flatley. Is she the most popular? Absolutely,

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and that matters one hundred percent. Is she the draw today? Absolutely?
But like that's why you do this whether or not
she's there, because when she is there, we're not singing
no different song. That's what the that's what a strong
players union would have done and is doing. And to
go speak about a weaker players union, we'll talk about

(54:46):
the issues going on with the Washington Commanders. A guy
who has been locked in ten toes down from pre
back when the name was a racial slurt. And he
has no interest in leaving. And you know what the
commander said, buddy, you're thirty one. I don't know if
we can do this.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
We'll get to that in just a minute.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Martin Weiss, Alex Monico coming to you live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios. If you want to join the conversation,
you could hit us up on social media. I'm at
Martin Weiss on social Alex is at Alex Underscore Underscore
Monica oh Man. Alan Wright says, sounds like a great show.

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You and Benjamin always had the best take on ball.
He's talking to you. Interesting, who's Benjamin us fifteen?

Speaker 4 (55:31):
You know that is?

Speaker 3 (55:32):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
Huh? You know what I you know what I'm thinking?

Speaker 3 (55:38):
This is about?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Oh no, this is about It feels like a bot
I just clicked on the page. Feels body all right,
It feels body feels body all right. Speaking, the Washington
Commanders are this year's darling of the NFL offseason.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Everybody loves them. Yea, I heard the show two shows
before us not the disparits. Hartman and Husky talking about.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
Just they cannot.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
They just can't wait to see how great Jayden Daniels
is gonna be this upcoming season. And I'm not downplaying that,
but his wide receiver won Terry McLaurin, who I think
has been very underrated in his career and I think
his salary shows it when you kind of look at it.

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He's not happy with the way this offseason has been
going in Washington.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I've been pretty frustrated.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 10 (56:30):
Everything that has transpired up to this point is has
been disappointing and frustrating. I've wanted to continue my career here.
I've created my life here. This has been somewhere where
I've always wanted to be.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And I feel where Terry's coming from here, cause you
mean to tell me, it's like I've been living in
this neighborhood well before y'all came around, started mowing the
lawn and picking up the trash and renovating the houses
next door.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
You want to tell me want to raise my proberty tax.
I've been here for the longest.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
No, no, no, no, no, and Washington is seeing I mean,
they're still at this m pass and I know there's
some questions about who his agent is and how just
literally the interpersonal relationship is going between agent and GM.
But like, this is a deal that I would think
if you're the Commanders should be.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Let's to your point about TJ. Watt.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Now I'm not saying they're about the same player, but
through the dark days of the Steelers would have been TJ.
White has been there. Terry McLaurin has been through a
lot of dark days, and the idea that this vibes
feels off for me, and I don't like it.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Martin Jane Daniels through twenty five touchdowns last year, thirteen.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Of the them.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
We're to the man who was second in the NFL
in touchdowns. Mister Terry, I don't know how you could
be anything other than frustrate. And to your point, he
is one of the leaders in this locker room that
was there with all kinds of turnover, all kinds of commotion,
everything but football being played over there in Washington. Now

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they're winning and they know how to act. Let's just
let's go old school Madden here, all right, Deebo comes
to town. Fed Now, by the way, is Luke McCaffrey
close to Christian McCaffrey going into this season because outside
of Noah Browny was this man gonna throw two? Not
to mention the tape the league has on JD. I
love Luke McCaffrey. At the Senior Bowl twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Four out of Rice, I was like, yo, who was
this little white kid rounding them up?

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Routing them up?

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yet to see it in the NFL at the same level.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Guys been out there, but he wasn't exactly lad McConkie
in year one.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
But McClaren has been so consistent.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
I mean, seventy seven or more receptions in four straight years,
eighty seven the year prior, and that's not even with
a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
I just look, a lot of people have been really
high on the Commanders. Maybe I'll eat crow here. You
said their win totals nine and a half. Yeah, I
think that's gonna be a very popular over bet, and
everybody's gonna be sitting back and wondering, how did they
lose Week five to Jacksonville to make this a nine

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win team?

Speaker 4 (59:26):
I think you're onto something. But you want to talk
about going backwards. This is old Washington, not handling Terry.
Old Washington would bottle this New Washington should already have
this wrapped up.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah, it's just not what you like to see to
me at least. And look, this is a one. You
have your quarterback on a rookie deal. Your tight end
is zach Ertz. Zach Ertz is thirty six at seven
years old. Like the idea that Terry McLaurin should not
be the guy that.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
You want, go ahead and go and take care of here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:02):
And he's twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
It's not like he's thirty three.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
He's twenty nine.

Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
The quarterbacks on a rookie deal too, That's the thing
to keep in mind. This is like the time that
you can pay people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
It's just number one assets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
And it's not just all your It's not like your
quarterbacks on a rookie deal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Like Bryce Sjong is on a rookie deal, right, yeah,
he's on a yeah in a win now window, he's
on a rookie deal. Jayden Daniels is on a rookie deal.
Jayden Daniels. So he's seventeen, uh, scratch that sixteen regular.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Season football game because I believe he missed at least one,
maybe fifteen. But if the fact remains the amount of
professional football games that Jayden Daniels played in the regular
season is less than twenty. And there are people across
the board that will put him in a top ten list,
and people won't blink. There are people across the board
who will are you name the network, you will find
somebody that has Jayden Daniels as a dark horse MVP candidate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
And it's not that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Dark right, and they're not even allowed to pay him yet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
It's a guy who was top twelve receptions, top fifteen yards,
top two in touchdowns, and your franchise quarterback's number one asset.
We don't even know if Debo and Daniels are gonna
work in a chemistry way close to Terry Terry's Terry's
almost He's not the talent of Larry Fitzgerald, but he's

(01:01:18):
had a similar frustrating quarterback after quarterback after quarterback career.
Now it's time to cash in. He doesn't want to
go get paid. Watch the Chargers back up the Brinks truck.
And I can't watch Quinton Johnson drop another uncontested ball
in training camp. Bring him on down to the five freeway,
let him play with Herbert and watch what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
I just I don't get this move. I don't get
why this is. This deal hasn't been done yet. I
don't think it's terribly complicated. I don't I really know
his agent is asking for a little more of this
than that. Like, I don't see the problem here. I
don't see the issue and it just replacing, Like the

(01:02:01):
idea that Deebo Samuels replacing him, I just I cannot square.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Like there was a moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Last year, well, I saw Deebo if Thursday Night football
against the Seahawks. Julian Love was wearing that light blue
and he hawked him on a seventy something yard run.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Say, oh, Deebo, you're slow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
All right, let's go ahead now and kick it over
to Steve de Seger for what's trending in the world
of sports as the NBA All Star Game goes to
halftime steam.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Or the WNBA although it's high scoring like the NBA
All Star Game which you referenced, Dili.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
That's my issue. I saw. I just saw no defense
being played and got distracted.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
The halftime score Team Collier eighty two to sixty over
Team Clark, and no, Caitlin Clark is not playing injured.
I look it up when the last time they had
the standard opposition in the All Star Game a couple
summers ago, the winning team had one forty three. The
leading team has eighty two in the first half tonight.

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There are some rule changes just for this All Star Game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
Tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:03:00):
It's a twenty second shot clock knock twenty four this evening.
There's also the allowance of a hockey like substitution for
the offense. You can have one player off and one
on while you have the ball, not when there's a
time out. And there's also a four point shot a
couple of circles that are out there on each side

(01:03:20):
of the court above the three point line at twenty
eight feet off.

Speaker 4 (01:03:25):
Now, the box.

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Score hasn't been adjusted to say exactly how many of
the long distance shots have been threes and how many fours,
so I can't report on that. But eighty two sixty
team Collier in the lead, with Captain Nefisa Collier in
nine minutes on the court, scoring eighteen points seven of
eight shooting from the floor. Scottie Scheffler leads the open
by four strokes after a third round sixty seven in

(01:03:48):
Northern Ireland, Scheffler. The last ten times he's led after
fifty four holes has won the event, and he took
the PGA Championship in May. The Saints gave second round
quarterback Tyler Shuck a fully guarantee contract. The top eight
selections in round two got guaranteed money this year. That's
a first. In fact, no second round pick had ever
received a fully guaranteed contract until this year. But Bengals

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first round defensive end Shamar Stewart is still unsigned and
the team's other rookies have reported to training camp. Veteran
edge rusher Von Millers due to officially sign with Washington
on Monday. Guard Marcus Smart agreed to a buy out
with the Wizards and will reportedly sign with the Lakers.
In the quarterfinals of the Women's Euros in soccer, Germany
won on penalty kicks, eliminating France to Major League Baseball.

(01:04:35):
Toronto started the day not only first in the Al East,
but three games over the Yankees, Toronto one, beating the
Giants six to three. The New York Yankees were down big.
They're now down seven to six at Atlanta in the
bottom of the sixth inning. The Phillies are now game
and a half up on the Mets. In the NLS,
Philadelphia beat the Angels nine to five. Kyle Schwarber a

(01:04:55):
Grand Slam. Matts scored early but lost at home five
to to Cincinnati. The Mets did retire David Wright's number five.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Today.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
It was Miami with two late runs, beating Kansas City
three to one. In progress on Fox TV for much
of the country. At Wrigley Field, Cubs six nothing over
the Red Sox in the bottom of the eighth inning.
A's now lead eight to two at Cleveland in the
bottom of the ninth. The Rangers are beating the slumping
Tigers in the ninth four to one. Raised over the
Orioles now four to two in the bottom of the

(01:05:24):
eighth inning, and the Nationals have taken the lead on
the Padres four to two in the top of the eighth.
Mookie Betts, Dodgers shortstop this year batting two forty one,
is not playing tonight. They have benched him for the evening.
Dodgers and Brewers scoreless top of the second.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Back to you, thanks Steve Martin Weiss and Alex Monico.
Coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
It's time to tell you what the biggest story will
be tomorrow or Monday or whatever the hell dated it's Saturday. Yeah,
well this will be the biggest story in the NFL
the next couple of days. Oh yeah, but Lloyd Howell,
the NFLPA executive direct resigned. Was a Thursday night, Friday

(01:06:04):
night earlier. It wasn't Friday, it could have been, so
I think it was Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Abruptly is the headline. Well, it's sort of abrupt.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
It's after days and days of reporting, honestly by Pablo
Torri and nobody else. So shout out to Pabloatry finds
out because the boy for the boy, he found it out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
He mounted out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
So this all stems back from uh basically Pabulatory had
text messages from the owners of the Cardinals and the
Chargers discussing Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract, intimating we really
wish that the owners of the Browns hadn't offered that

(01:06:46):
because they had two guys, Kyle Ler Murray and Justin Herbert.
Did they ballpack coming down the pipe, both of whom
were gonna want to, you know, a lot of bread, right,
and so especially when you consider just thinking about this
in my head right now. The post he's the success
of all of them combined and the injury, Like, there's
no argument that Kyler Murray's like, if Deshaun did it,

(01:07:08):
then I should do it. If Sean you know, so,
the NFL and the NFLPA essentially had a ruling on
this found there was collusion, hid the findings did his
whole stuff. Basically, the longest short of it is Lloyd Howell,
the guy who's supposed to be representing the players, had
no seeming interest at all in doing so and kind

(01:07:32):
of just moving things along in the way of like
there was a moment I think it was that the
super Bowl, neither this last super Bowl, the super Bowl
prior where he was asked at like the NFL, you know,
the state of the league conversations. He goes, well, you know,
what are your thoughts about an eighteenth game? Lloyd how says,
who doesn't love more football? Now, that's a fine thing

(01:07:52):
to say. If you're me, or if you're you, or
if you're a producer ian over there and you know
your jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
Are to cover the games. What's another weekend to me?

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Cool?

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I got eighteen real Sundays now then anything else stead
of just seventeen. But if you're the guy who is
representing the players and you can't say, oh, sign us up,
like you have to give something back, like you want
me to work longer, Oh I need more shabi gift?
Take right, Yeah, gift. Like you don't say you work

(01:08:22):
longer at your job. You get a little bit overtime,
so on and so forth. So that's not the smoking
gun of this whole story. This was kind of it's
a little bit of wizard and Oz thing going on
here if you follow the Pablo Tory reporting.

Speaker 4 (01:08:36):
This is not what ESPN and the other.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Places that have NFL rights are talking about it the
same way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Because the big story today is a seven hundred and
sixty eight dollars ubercharge essentially outside of a strip club,
which was expensed by Lloyd Howe to the union as
a business expense, saying for like player player engagement and
such and so forth. So it's a misappropriation of union funds,

(01:09:08):
which is what is the smoking gun. But to me,
the biggest deal of this is that Lloyd Howe had
a part time job consulting for private equity which just
was able to buy teams in the NFL portions of
teams in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
This is just the most clearest conflict of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Interest you could find, and it's now being brought to light.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Honestly, you say that, if I gotta hear that again,
it's it's unfathomable looking at it like this, whether you're
close up or far away, I think you need a
complete shakeup.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
What say you complete shakeup?

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
So not only do I think that's the case, but like,
just think about what Steve just said, right, no second
round pick prior to this year had had their full
contract fully gearing. Now I we hear those things and

(01:10:06):
you think, okay, cool, I mean it makes sense. Oh,
Shamar Stewart's got some beef with the team. Okay, that
makes sense. But part of it is is like, why
is it? Why hasn't that happened?

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Why hasn't there been a guy who we wanted to
draft in a high second round? All of it has
been artificially depressed two years ago, three years ago. Wh
they're talking about the running back market? What is the
running back market?

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
That was what I was my point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I was making, what do you mean the market for
running backs is if they are like like a running
back is a car and everybody else is riding bikes.
Like you know what I'm saying, a running back or
everybody else is a car and'm running back riding a bike.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
So well, this is a really bad look. It's a
really bad look for the NFL. I would imagine Martin,
there's needs to be some sort of grandiose pr statement.
But even more so if you're a player in this league,
and I know McAfee was huge on speaking on a
huge shake up, somebody's got to step up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
I honestly think they should go scortch Thirth. I would imagine.
I don't think anybody who's involved right now on the
player side of like player reps on up should be involved.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
With the NFLPA.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Like I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Like, actually I got a text from a player Brandon
will former play.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
He's reasonable tire Brandon Vocal played for the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Yeah, not a start by any stretch, right, you know,
he's a practice squad guy who was active for a
couple of games, but like he is not like won
a college championship with Joe Burrow LSHO, but not at
the NFL I'll put it like this, he.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Not Cam Hayward. You know what I'm saying in the
room with Cam Hayward right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Right, and he's a you know, I think players should
be angry, raised questions and have an input with more
things than we have ever there personally needs to be
a clean slate play leading our players union. He said
the initial hiring process was too exacerbate, and throughout the years,
not just playing in the NFL, he has friends and

(01:12:04):
family that play in it. It's always been a rocky situation,
and he says he ends it with I encourage all
players to read the CBA and just know what the
rules are, because I honestly I have read the CBA
for the NFL. It's a lot of stuff that that
will never matter to me as a talking head.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
It's just good to know the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
The CBA is the rules of engagement for teams and
players and how they are to interact. The CBA is
why Terry McLaurin says I want a new deal, and
the what is why the commanders say we don't have
to do it. The CBA is why Kirk Cousins gegy franchised,
not once, but twice, right, and the CB likes all
of those things are and this then that's why the
w NBA players are walking out with shirts. Pay us

(01:12:45):
what you owe us. All of this is all related.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Well, this guy does not seem like he has the
player's best interest. It seems like he's on the other
side this absolutely And now we're talking about, to your point,
a complete conflict of interest. Where where is the justice
for the players within that fine print moving forward?

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
I'll tell you where it's not, and it's not with
the guy who has been rumored or circled to be
the guy to replace.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Lloyd Howell. And that's JA C.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Trader, who was the former president of the NFLPA. If
you follow Pablo Torre's reporting, there's one consistent through line
through all of it. There's one common denominator through everything.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
It is J. C.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Trader, who bent the rules to hire the first guy,
Lloyd Howe. Covered up the eye some of the things
that are coming out. Lloyd Howell's background check again covered
up by J. C. Trader, had knowledge of the private equity.

Speaker 8 (01:13:45):
J C.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Trader covered it up, kept these arbitration hearing secret.

Speaker 11 (01:13:49):
J C.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Trader covered it up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Like about the CBA you can't put this if Jason,
I know that Jay C. Treadder was a former player,
and Braydon said it in this text message to me.
A former player be leading this union has to that's
not the one, not that one. That's not the one.
That is not the one. And speaking of people guilty
or innocent, cop it up. Next, play another edition a
Sports Court. Martin Wise and Alex Monico coming to you

(01:14:17):
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. It's now time
for another edition of Sports Court.

Speaker 9 (01:14:23):
Okay, we are back with the Sports Court. Alex, I
can't remember you've done this one before.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
You've done it before. Yeah, that's right, that's right, one
in dunlight. Mellow, back for another. All right, well, let's
jump in the rules here. I have a list of
people from the world of sports that I'm putting on
trial here in the Sports Court. I'll present to you
guys their case, and then it's up to you, guys,
the jury, to tell me whether they are.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
Guilty or not guilty. You ready, let's do it? All right?

Speaker 9 (01:14:47):
So, first off, Bill Belichick stands accused. Now, if you
guys recall Belichick. The UNC team was supposed to be
featured on HBO's Hard Knocks this year, but it all
fell through. It turns out, though that Belichick's tar Heels
are going to be getting their own docu series after all,
and it's being developed by Hulu. So Bill Belichick, guilty
or not guilty?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Not guilty, You're not guilty.

Speaker 6 (01:15:11):
Because it's devastating.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
To my case.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Absolutely, because it is devastating in my case. I'm always
all in on Belichick's Hard Knocks. I was going to
be locked in. I will be locked in to whatever
Belichick comes out with this Hulu thing. Hard Knocks couldn't
handle Hudson and that's the problem. Hulu is more equipped.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I'm locked in.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
I just survived Love Island, so I feel like this
is a drop in the bucket for me. I My
IQ went down. But you know we're tapped in on
the culture. I'm gonna go with Martin on this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Not guilty. Yeah, you need.

Speaker 9 (01:15:49):
Go ahead to let the sound bude finish, all right,
Next up, Caitlin Clark stands accused. Oh, actually, you know what,
we're skipping that one earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
In the show, and Roddy guilty. I'm not skipping all
right now.

Speaker 9 (01:16:00):
Former NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell stands accused.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Now you guys mentioned this earlier in the show.

Speaker 9 (01:16:05):
Howell stepped down from his position as executive director of
the NFLPA late Thursday night, before it was reported Friday
that he spent hundreds of using Union dollars on strip
club visits.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
So Lloyd Howell guilty or not guilty? Guilty?

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
That's guilty as who could be?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Cause here do you getting paid millions of dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
What do you need to expense it for?

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Broke boy? Why? Why are we doing? What are we doing?
Spending the money? Spending the money.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
He's buying a He's guilty. He's buying a two time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Here's the amount of his salary had down there in
Del Boca Vista and he can't cover this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Very guilty and very guilty, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:16:48):
Meghan the Stallion stands accused. So now that Mavericks guard
Klay Thompson's new relationship with the rapper Meghan the Stallion
is public. A video surfaced him this week at a
team practice and he hit seventy two three pointers in
a row back back in the old clay. So people
are saying that Meghan has brought back the old Clay.
So Meghan the Stallion, guilty or not guilty? Go, I'm

(01:17:11):
gonna say she did bring the man back guilty. I
gotta go guilty. That would be he looved it. I
saw him on the red carpet.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
She bought him of what not one hundred to two
hundred three hundred thousand dollars. Rist he took that risk
to hit seventy two straight threes. I think that is
the sign of a guilty girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Bring it back, old Clay, What say you mark not guilty?

Speaker 4 (01:17:34):
Wow? These allegations are false.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Here's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
I think that I think that seventy two percent of
NBA players could hit seventy two out of one hundred
threes wide open, just standing there with somebody passing on
the ball. I think probably close to three quarters of
the league could probably do that. The problem that I
have with this everybody's acting like this is the first

(01:17:58):
time making the Stallions dated at basketball player Tory Craig was.
I remember that relationship, but it was not the front
page of VSPN Justice for Tory Craig.

Speaker 4 (01:18:08):
I don't even know who he is. Not big. He's
not big.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
That's that's goodness, gracious.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
I can't even find him in two k It used
to be with you date it mattered in this world.
Just ask me, Just ask jay Z.

Speaker 9 (01:18:23):
MLB All Star starters stand accused. Now, the starters from
the MLB All Star Game have been taking a little
bit of heat for changing back into their street clothes
after subbing out of the game. So some fans have
been calling it pretty disrespectful to the game. So MLB
All Star starters guilty or not guilty?

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Guilty? I'm he's guilty. I'm jury. You can see it
on this smub little face.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
Guilty, I think guilty.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
If you're at work, you wear your uniform until you
clock out.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
It's just I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:18:51):
Is that a millennial take? This game was a great night,
But that's a little upsetting if you're seeing Otani, Martin
and Judge chilling and street clothes in the top of
the seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
No, I like this. Is this a millennial take? No,
it's not a millennial take.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
It's a get off my lawn, the old boomer, not kissy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Not guilty. Oh come on, pope.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
You tell me you if you can hear my voice
right now, you tell me today that youth stayed fifteen
minutes after the last the first day before vacation. You
tell me, because it's not true. For not a single
lion one of you, not none of it. They play
one hundred and sixty two day.

Speaker 4 (01:19:34):
They gonna work a hunt.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
They got a hundred since day that three sixty five.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
That's a lot. I don't even know what the number is.
I just know that I don't have not done anything.
Get the uniform all Martin, untucked the shirt, untucked the shirt.
There's the middle crew.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Here's the problem, here's your problem.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
They're the ones that are still there because everybody else's left.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Everybody else has.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Got it on their private jets to go to Texa,
Cacos and Jamaica or the Bahamas ooh pretty Mama, or
rubensjbaka whatever to go do all of that. And because
Thirk school Ball decided, oh you know what, I'm not
actually flying out. I'm just gonna go watch this thing
he's supposed to put on this dirty jersey.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
No, that's ridiculous. And all of you listening to me, No,
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
You're just saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Because you hold other people higher than you host standards
you hold yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
That's the problem with America today. I'm with that, like so.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
All of the lott he is holding people to a
higher standard. This would have you'll treat people to say
you treat people fair. And it's the same problem happening
in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
We're coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio
studios here on this Fox Sports Saturday. So if this
stands in this in the San Diego Washington get they're
playing the Nationals. I thought they were playing the Royals
when I looked at those jerseys. I hate this. Oh
my head, what are the Nationals doing wearing baby blue?

(01:21:04):
What are the Nationals? And you know what, I can't
you know what, I'm not evenna talk about it anymore because
I thought I'm not interested.

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
I was about to remind you about the hat.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
They shit. What happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
You give them an inch, Mary Mack, they take a
freaking mile. If you can have a black Dodgers hat,
you can have baby blue play in National road uniforms.
It's still our home uniform.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
It is disgusting, it drives I hate it. I hate
it so much.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I hated so so much, sit in here watching baseball.
You know, it's good to have something to hate. Watch
back as baseball is now back in full swing the
WNBA All Star Game and play right now is that
was a shoot the ball?

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Kelsey plump. We got scoring in this game. There's a
lot of scoring.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
But like you said earlier, the rules are a little
different here, shot clocks shorter four point shots out there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Oh look, Caitlyn Clark complained.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
To an official. Who would have thought that was gonna happen?
Who who could have seen it coming? Anyway, let's get
to this topic at hand. The Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron
Rodgers and Mike Tumblin. So we talked about him earlier
on the defensive side of the ball. We alluded to
it a little bit. But obviously Aaron Rodgers, the I

(01:22:18):
would say, the prodigal some returns home. But it was
his first time in Pittsburgh when he signed that contract.
You would have thought it would have been maybe the
fifth or sixth or seventh, because you know, at the
length in which, at a time in which it took
it for him to sign it, but he eventually did. Now,
I have some troubling news for you, uh uh that

(01:22:39):
you may not be aware of as we move into
the Aaron Rodgers Pittsburgh Steelers era. I know you are
all in like four am, Atlantic City.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
I've already bought it right exactly, So that's where we're
all in here. We're all in here like a like
like it's breakfast time in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
And that's how all in with alex Monica is on
this Pittsburgh Stealers and Aaron Rodgers. I wonder if he
had considered what this Pittsburgh's Dealers beat right for the
athletic Mike Defebo said on Colin Cowherd's show The Herd.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
This is what he said yesterday.

Speaker 12 (01:23:16):
Did Mike Tomlin get the most out of Antonio Brown
or did he enable him? And you know, we saw
history in some senses repeat itself with George Pickens. You
go back to where this whole postseason losing streak began.
Le'Veon Bell reported late for that playoff game. Mike Tomlin
always has a saying, I don't treat everybody equally, but

(01:23:38):
I treat everybody fairly. But when you're treating people on
different levels.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
That is unfair to the guys who are doing the
right thing.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
When you're treating people unfair? Treat don't people troople the same?
Would you treat them on different levels? Did we treat
people on different levels?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
You know, saying things get a little dicey good thing
that Aaron Rodgers has always been the consummate teammate and
you'll never have to worry about him desmanding anything different
or special at all.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
So you just love that sound bite because it's music
to your ears if you're not on the Pittsburgh wave
like I.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Well, it's just partly I had really cont like there
are things that you know, but then when somebody lays
them all out, it's like, oh wow, I didn't realize
that you know a butterfly caterpillar?

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
Huh go figure right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
There's a lot of steps in between that, but then
once you find them out, it's like I understand, now,
thank you for enlightening me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I knew obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
The Le'Veon bell was late to the playoff game, and
then Antonio Brown went on Instagram live afterwards and that
was the last playoff game that they had won, but
it didn't really track to be like it's got a
point with like this has kind of been because dare
I say consistent intreating offensive players from leading defensive because

(01:25:01):
like TJ, why and you know what to the defensive
players for they get paid? But like, how fair is
it to the TJ wats in the world that if
George Picktts is showing up late to Mike Fables point.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
And George Picktts that's one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
You're not saying that Aaron.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Rodgers didn't necessarily show up late. But I would just
say what happens when the Steelers are one and two
and Aaron Rodgers isn't necessarily smiling through it all?

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
We got an interesting Monday morning a block But the why,
Let's just live in this reality for a second. We
know what wide receivers are. Remember the throwback movie The Replacements.
Oh yeah, the wide receiver is a different let's call
them all actors almost. They are the diva in the trailer.

(01:25:50):
And that's not just on the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are
me guys more than any other position in the NFL
outside of maybe a quarter. That's where I go. All right,
Tomlin's been a defensive coach his whole career. It only
makes sense the offensive side wouldn't be as buttoned up
as a defensive guy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Sure, but also too, you're coaching the whole team. That's
one of my biggest beats with the the coach in Miami,
with the Mike McDaniel. That's one of my biggest beats
with him, is that how you just punting on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
Bro, Like, well, that's a whole that's to me, that's
different in the sense that he doesn't have He doesn't
have the resume and the cachet that Tomlin does. Now
you could almost you could also live in this reality
and go all right, he's actually because he is a
player's coach and he is a master motivator that he

(01:26:47):
actually allows them to be who they are, thus getting
the best version out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Very much chicken in the egg, right, It's like did
you maximize ab or did you taken advantage of you
know what I'm saying kind of deal. And I was
always on the side of it maximized, But to hear
it kind of play it out like that, it was
like that, Oh man, that's fascinating, especially consider Aaron Rodgers
is the one coming down the pipe and I am

(01:27:17):
growing more sympathetic to Steelers fans and the plight of
five hundred. Like the god it's hard for me as
a guy who grew up a Saints fan. It was
hard for me, for real to understand what they were
complaining about. And now, like, if you're a fan of
the Jaguars, let's say you're thirty five years old, and
you can hear me right now. You grew up listen,

(01:27:38):
and you've been rooting for the Jaguars. They've been good
in your life three times? Yeah, right, Fred Taylor, Right
like that three times? Like that's that, you know, that's
it you and good is and good is Like you
look at the Patriots their worst years, you take the
worst five years in Tom Brady's career is the best
five years of Jaguars is.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
So it's a low self esteem franchise versus the opposite,
you know, And so it's hard for me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
I'm a Saints fan.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
The Saints are the Saints just guaranteed the fortieth pick
in the draft his entire contract, you know why, because
he's gonna be the starting quarterback. What But you know,
just say all that to say Saints were good exactly
one time in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:28:23):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
So when you tell me that the Pittsburgh Steelers, oh
they just can't get over the five hundred tomp so
I trade a lot to be five hundred, but absolutely
understanding that at five hundred you really never get a chance.
If you're only hitting doubles. You can never hit a
home run. Do you know what I'm saying. You can
literally never hit a home run. It takes something else

(01:28:45):
to get you, like you can never just do it
all yourself. And so I'm starting to become more this offseason.
I'm wondering a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
About the Steelers. It's just interesting because earlier, which you
did make a very good point when you were talking Tomlin. Okay,
this is a guy that would get cooped up in
two seconds if he was on the open market as
a head coach. But let's also remind ourselves the Pittsburgh Steelers'
organization under the Rooneyes, they do business differently. Bill Cower
was a coach there as long as he's been on CBS,

(01:29:15):
which I was learning cursive when Bill Kwer was on CBS.
I mean, they don't overreact. They often don't also underreact.
But it's to me, Martin, a new leaf turn this year,
where yes, I think we will be a little more
scrutinizing Tomlin's leadership ability. But is it also worth mentioning

(01:29:38):
the guy that was a distraction is not there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
I don't love that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
Obviously, they bring in DK Metcalf that can be a
little bit wide receiver esque on the energy, but he's
a little more of a professional than Pickens.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
But trading Dk Metcalf George are swapping George Pickens for
Dk Metcalf is like swapping a Minnesota winner for a
Iowa winner.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Start Rogers bro unless Rodgers going to Metcalf, unless he
gets him off the gummy bears and onto you know,
a grass fat diet. Now we're really talking aboutcause Metcalf
is is one to one in that diet department.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
I'll say this, Dk Metcalf better stay away from Aaron
Rodgers gummy bears. You don't know what's in the thing.
He better stay away from Aaron Rodgers gummy bears. But
here's the other thing that I that is this is
the most damning thing of all when it comes to
your boy, Aaron Rodgers, and I will drop this disc
track courtesy of Mike Defebo from The Athletic on Colin

(01:30:40):
cow her Shore on Friday, right now they.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
Know that people are getting impatient. They want success and
they haven't had it, you know.

Speaker 12 (01:30:49):
And I just look at the fact that there have
been in the history of the NFL in the Super
Bowl era, quarterbacks over forty have won to combine twelve
games in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (01:31:00):
Tom Brady has ten.

Speaker 12 (01:31:01):
Every other quarterback has two combined. So it's Tom Brady
and it's everybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
And here the.

Speaker 12 (01:31:06):
Steelers are throwing their face behind assumed to be forty
two year old Aaron Rodgers to try to snap that
skin ten and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Two and ten of them are twelve and two and
ten of them are Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
But how many of them?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
How many I got cannonball?

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
How many of them have been in the woods?

Speaker 10 (01:31:26):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
To better themselves, you have to realize how this functional
New York Jets are the Aaron Rodgers slander I will
not take considering where a thousand days removed from him
having nine interceptions in back to back MVP years.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Listen, why are we getting in with his music?

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
I am not going down with this ship. Tomins won
eighty three and one oh seven. Robert Solo was a
motivator with no resume and wasn't even a head coach
in this league. He's back to where it all begins,
San Francisco. Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers are a perfect
implement to each other.

Speaker 13 (01:32:00):
Listen, turn it up, baby's but they're a perfect compliment
in the same way that like the guy that did
you never left home and you find the love of.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Your life at your fifteenth high school reunion. You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Like you guys both never left home and all of
a sudden, CC from seventh grade at thirty five looks
swow to just say check out that I will go
over there and we talk to her Midwest hoey, do you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Feel me right?

Speaker 11 (01:32:29):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Hey, listen, these market rates not going down, baby, how
you looking? Price to ags is six dollars a carton.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
Rogers the guys twelve and ten of playoffs. All right,
we know what he is in the regular season six
to sixty nine win percentage. The guy, if he just
doesn't get in the way of himself, is gonna win
ball games for the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
But okay, so I'm gonna go back to describe Janet
Jackson and said what have you done.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
For me lately?

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
And I'm not even saying that, and I get that
he's been hurt. I get that he's been hurt. I'm
not knocking that. But like when you look at Aaron
Rodgers in the last five years, if you look at
the first two and a half, he's playing MVP level football,
right and he won one last six, just making six
because he want three MVPs in that stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Yea, you know, the last.

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Three he's done more ayahuasca then playing football.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
He's ran for vice It was a campaign for vice president,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:39):
Like, and not only that, Mike de Fabo just said,
no matter what he was doing, he too old for this.
You know what I'm saying. The guy was top ten.
I need a sound effect for this. He touchdowns ten
yards with no coach, throwing to all friends on the

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cul de Sac.

Speaker 14 (01:34:02):
Wizarre and calm. Why were his old friends there, Alex?
Because feel has given too much hand. I'm telling you
the Jets are gonna turn around this year. The Steelers
are gonna turn around, and I will either be eating.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Ramen or surfing turf this year because of it. You
know what you sound like right now? Yes, I'm hot.
I'm hot.

Speaker 15 (01:34:27):
I mean generally, I can't believe people are this off
of the last of the last few years around Aaron Rodgers,
it's been a bit of a circus.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
I just my thing is, I think two things are true.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
I think that Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback the
Pittsburgh Steelers have had in the last you call it, Okay,
that's something that would be the same time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:52):
I also think that it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
It's gonna be the same situation we've seen. We're looking
eight wins, nine wins.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Let's do this for a second. Let's go old school.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
You and I are number two pencil scan tron test
takers because we're we're nineties kids. Let's go back to
ABC D on the scantron. The Steelers blow it this
year because Aaron Rodgers gets in his own way. Mike
Tomlin doesn't address the offense of players as much as
the media is alluding to.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
He doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
Is it a wide receiver walking off in some sort
of wedding crashers rule number six breaking attention to himself
in a negative way, or is it D on the scantron, A,
B and C.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
I hate to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
If you just lay it out that incredible multiple choice.
My answer is e the other teams are just better.
Oh god, I'm getting wrong, none of the additions that
they have.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
I think this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
I think this the Steelers the only team in the NFL.
To my yeah, I think they're only team in the
NFL to replaced. They're leading passer, they're leading receiver, and
they're leading rusher. And I think they got better at
all three spots. I just don't think they got that
much better to where he's gonna make a difference in
the AFC North and a grand scheme.

Speaker 4 (01:36:03):
They were second in the league in turnover differential to
Buffalo plus sixteen second. That's taking care of the rock,
doing the little things. They didn't have a so Aaron
Rodgers didn't have a coach. The Steelers had two quarterbacks,
which is the age old saying you have none and
we can't bring it all together to say they go

(01:36:26):
ten and seven.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Point of order. Why didn't Aaron Rodgers have a coach?

Speaker 4 (01:36:29):
Again, because Woody Johnson is an emotional adnational. When he
got embarrassed, and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I'll put it like this, Aaron Rodgers had the every
opportunity to go up and hug Robert Salo on the sidelines,
but instead put two hands right in his chest.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
And sent them on his way. I need I need
a water bottle over here, He'll get a water bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Speaking of hot somebody who was notoriously hot tempered had
a hot take that we're gonna pour some of Alex's
water all over. We'll get to that just a minute.
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(01:37:20):
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Martin Weiss and Alex Monico and Alex Yep. One of

(01:38:22):
the uh hot tempered hot takers in the NBA, Draymond Green,
did the latter in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
He had a hot take. You tweeted out and said, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Quote, I find it interesting that players get bad for
load management, but rookies get shut down during summer league
these days.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
Fascinating a.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Wow, profound Uh In fact, it is not fascinating, Like
it's not fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
What do you what do you like?

Speaker 7 (01:38:56):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:38:57):
This is I can't stand this.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
People do this all the time, but it's like, oh man,
you were late to work. Well, I killed his dog.
Like yo, these things are not equivalent, like these things
are different. The summer league is. At this time of
summer league, it is people like you and me, aren't there?
Like that poor boy you got dunked on. That's all

(01:39:23):
I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
All you gotta say, Noah s and gay, But he
was actually like a top ten pick.

Speaker 4 (01:39:28):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
But my point is nobody knows that now he may
go into the NBA and continue and be successful.

Speaker 3 (01:39:38):
You know what I'm saying. He's gonna have to do
a whole lot to live this down.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
But this might be you know what I'm saying, Are
you know even better? Johnny Furfey, the guy that dunked
on him?

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
This might be it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
That might be it your boys and gay. He might
have a fifteen year NBA courage, Johnny Firfree.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
That might be it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
You don't associate me with him. You are associated.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
But it's just like sous.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
You don't agree with it. You don't agree with it. No,
you do agree. I don't agree, all right, I don't agree.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
So I mean your your job is to protect the
number one draft pick, to make sure he's ready on
opening on opening night and he dropped thirty one in
his second game.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
What else?

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
What else do we need to see outside of him
being sustained health wise for game one of the Maverick season.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Are you with me on that? I? I personally don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
I used to DVR Summer League games when both DVR
and Summer League. Back in those Orlando, Utah, Vegas Summer
League days, I was really locked in.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
And I know, I don't love the fact now that
if you know, I've went.

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
To summer leagues where the first round picks are playing persistently,
and I don't love the fact now that it's like
they're not like that anymore. Yeah, like that, Like, but
I can't get super broken up about it because it
is at the end of the day, an exit and
a situation where it's much more. It's like the combine.

(01:41:06):
It's like a post combine almost like a combine is
not for Caleb Williams, it is, you know what, just
going to say, a seventh round pick who's trying to
like that these guys are trying to make the team.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Yeah, and Martin. If you're a MAVs fan, Shindo Cooper Flack,
who's been playing with grown men in the NBA for
offseason's plural. We know the guy can compete against other
NBA players. How about a guy if you're a Mavericks
fan like Nemhart Okay, can he be like his brother?
He's out there, he's getting pt. He looked phenomenal when
he was I watched him, particularly against the Lakers. But

(01:41:41):
that's a guy that summer league's more so for in
my humble opinion. Sure, and someone like a lottery pick,
let alone the number one overall pick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Draymond went on to say, a regular season game. Oh
but a regular season game on a soft Tuesday in
January matters for players. Seems like the equivalent to me. Also,
you miss how I guess he's responding to somebody. You
miss half the point. Most teams make these decisions. It's
rarely the player. I think that's the problem. I think
we are talking about the big problem out loud. It

(01:42:13):
reminds me of when Lebron said the n season Tournament
was gonna work because the financial benefit that players got,
and he said, I'll never forget this. He goes, because
when you put out an incentive like that in front
in front of a bunch of alpha males, do you
get the highest level of competition?

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
And my thought was like, bright, you know you get
paid for every other game you play.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
Too. Was before the meet the Parents medal he got
the year they got routed by the Nuggets in the
first round, or after he won the medal.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
This was this was back when they were making the
argument for the n season tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
That's all work. But it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:51):
The idea that Draymond Green is equating a Tuesday night
game in January to the third league game of summer League.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
The calls coming from inside.

Speaker 11 (01:43:02):
The house, that's a great ball, Like, what do you
mean a soft There should be no such thing as
a soft Tuesday in January.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
I understand you have different opponents.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
I understand that you have different like sure, maybe you're okay,
like you're going to the win on Wednesday may mean
more than the win on Tuesday. We see NFL teams
do that. Oh you got a Thursday. You know you
got a Sunday night er against a division rival. Maybe
you know you're pulling your guy. You have a Thursday
night er. If a Sunday night game against nobody on

(01:43:36):
a Thursday night against the division rival, maybe you're pulling
your quarterback in the fourth quarter if you're.

Speaker 4 (01:43:41):
Up big, but you better be up. You have to
be up or down. The game better be not in
the balance.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
That'd be like, you know what I'm saying, Like the
idea that a soft Tuesday in January exists, but.

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
That game counts.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
This game doesn't exactly. Like That's my point. All of
them count.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
The first one of eighty two to the eighty second
of the eighty two game count. And the only way
to measure your playoff spots is by how many games
it win or lose. They do count, So I mean
they some I mean it's all one in the win
or lost call. I get that some of them are
against teams that shouldn't even feel like a real NBA team.

(01:44:17):
Or it's in March and the Wizards are fielding a
team that wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Even wouldn't win in the G League.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
But you still gotta go win it because if you
lose that game, you're gonna drop in your playoff seamons. Anyway,
I just think NBA players should care more about the
regular season. And with that, we'll kick it over Steve
just Seger because that's a hopeless cause. But Steve, you
will bring light in levity to.

Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
Hopeless cause I assumed you were talking about the defense
in this w NBA All.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
Yeah, that was swinging. I missed by us the rare
swinging a mission on for the entirety to see. You know,
most of the time I'm at home when I'm like, well,
I was really wrong on that one.

Speaker 7 (01:44:54):
Well, it's an All Star game in hoops. Let's just
say that it's just gone final. Team Collier winner one
fifty one to one thirty one. That would be the
highest scoring w NBA All Star Game ever and team
captain Nefisa Collier, I assume will be game MVP. After all,
In only eighteen and a half minutes on the court,
she had thirty six points and nine rebounds. The losing side,

(01:45:18):
team Clark Caitlin Clark injured from three point range, was
nineteen for sixty four. Some of those, of course four
point shots. They had a couple of four.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
Point See, I wanted the Caitlin Clark's team shooting percent
is not Kitlin Clark on the road this year.

Speaker 7 (01:45:35):
Actually, this was better than Clark Clark on the road
this year. Actually, she was going to be in that
shoot I remember last night due to the injury. She
was not in the three point shooting. I know I
am not the only one who said, well, not a
bad thing, because from three point range she's twenty eight
percent this year. I looked it up, twenty nine for
one oh four this season. Home or road, from long

(01:45:59):
distance anyway, team loses by twenty In Indianapolis tonight, Scottie
Scheffler leads the open by four strokes. The Yankees have
just hit a grand slam in the ninth to take
the lead. At Atlanta, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Twelve eight over the Braves.

Speaker 7 (01:46:12):
Now bottom of the ninth Trent Grisham with the long
ball with the bases juiced against ricel Iglesias. The Rockies
at home are winning against the Twins eight to three.
It's bottom of the seventh inning, Brewers holding on in
LA five to four over the Dodgers. Bottom of the
fourth inning Showey Otani with a two run homer, his
thirty third of the year, but Dodgers shortstop Mookie Betts

(01:46:33):
has the night off. He and his two forty one
batting average Mariners lead Houston won nothing. In the top
of the third. The Cubs hit five solo homers and
beat Boston six nothing. That was the main game on
Fox TV. Tonight, Arizona a ten to one win over
Saint Louis. A Johennio Suarez two home runs. He has
thirty three and eighty one RBIs Texas sent Detroit to

(01:46:56):
a six straight loss, four to one, the win to
Kamar Rocker with six scoreless innings on the hill. Tampa
Bay scored three times bottom of the eighth and edge
Baltimore four to three. Wins for the A's and White Sox.
Washington ended a five game losing streak beating the Padres
in you Darvish four to two. The Phillies are first
in the NL East, now a game and a half
over the Mets. Mets lost at home today five to

(01:47:19):
two to Cincinnati, on the day the Mets retired David
Wright's number five. Philadelphia was a home winner tonight nine
to five against the Angels. Kyle Schwarber hit a grand slam,
his thirty second home run this year. Victories for Toronto
and Miami. The Saints gave a second round second round
quarterback Tyler Schuck a fully guaranteed contract. As it turns out,

(01:47:41):
the top eight selections in Round two got guaranteed money.
That is a first back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
You want to find fascinating, Steve, and the irony of
all of these collusion NFLPA, all this and all of
a sudden second round picked. You know what, maybe we
can ful to guarantee that contract pick number thirty five.

Speaker 7 (01:47:59):
And what if you're selection number forty one overall and
you don't get a guaranteed and everybody, literally everybody above
you in the draft, first and second round does get guaranteed. Buddy,
exactly how did that line get drawn?

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
You know, it's great thought.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Apparently if Lloyd Howell's onill, my agents still be working
for I was about to say agents will be fired,
and if Lloyd Howell was up to it, we'll never know.
We'll never know that's the case. Thanks, Steve, appreciate you
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(01:48:38):
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get off of the air, Damian Lillard.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
He's going going back back to Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Portland, all right, so three years, forty two million dollars
with no trade clause.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
And that's right. You guessed it a player option for
Dame Lillard, because I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Don't know if if I tell you this, you want
to talk about being picked up for thirty seven. I
get garantee money. If I'm in a player option agent,
what are you doing? Dame's back in Portland after that
little dalliance in Milwaukee.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
It's gonna cost.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Them twenty two point some million dollars over the next five,
spread out to the next five, over and over and
over again for the Bucks to get rid of Damian Lillard.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
And Dan goes back home. I'm living, I'm living, he
says this to me.

Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
Is I'm rehabbing in Portland's I'll be down the street. Anyways,
Let's not think about next year. Let's just do the
easy thing, the comfortable thing. And I gotta be honest.
If you are a player fan and not a Blazer
span of Dame Lillard like I am, the guy is
not only leaving food on the table, He's leaving a

(01:50:02):
legacy that could have been much better because he's going
to Portland to do what stat stuff, win thirty three
games and help nobody when he already got the bread Martin,
and he could have just rehab, been patient and gone
to a contender. All this who blow all these years

(01:50:25):
and he just goes home.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
I'm furious, So I'd say this. I can understand where
you're coming from, But I do think.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
That the national media in general overlooks the fan experience
of like the average fan, not the La New York.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Me right now, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
Like even San Diego for the Padres, is big market, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like they're spending, right,
I know you're San Diego, that's your team. They're gonna
spend like, they'll go get machiato, they'll go get to tease.
They understand the competition in the division, and so on
and so so like. But again, I grew up going
to games in a stadium in which half of half

(01:51:16):
of half was full, and of that half people had
on paper bags over their heads because they were saw
a Shane Rufe of the team.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
Smoothie King.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
They didn't want to be safer them across the street.
They did not want to be caught on camera ruining
for the team. They put paper bags over their heads.
Do I think that Damian Lillard is gonna go to
Portland and win a championship?

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
No? This was This was the whole narrative. They didn't
do enough for him. He goes he could have went.
I was hearing murmurs he was getting recruited to Golden State.
I was hearing rumors he would go to LA I
was hearing that maybe Miami. All those are compelling options.
We already know this story. It's like, I don't know

(01:52:01):
you're taking us. I'm trying to think of like a
movie reference or redoing the movie. And when is the
redo Mean Girls twenty twenty four better than the original?

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
Never?

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
I'm furious Martin. I am he is robbing NBA fans
of a guy at thirty five that could be a
key integral part of a championship team. He's gonna go
play with who Jeremy Grant.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
We will continue this conversation on the other side, but
I do want to take one moment here. As Brianna
Stewart's being interviewed by Holly row On THEWNBA postgame telecast
as Visa Collier did win the MVP Courtney Williams, and
now is another player who's the sign is actually blocking
her face. Has a sign over Holly Rowe, who is

(01:52:49):
obviously significantly shorter than the players she's interviewing. It just
has Holly row Pay like she's wearing pay the players
almost as a crown over her head.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
On what has been the biggest stage.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
In WNBA maybe in the last or I should say
this one of the three biggest stages in the w
NBA since Kateler Clark has been a part of this league.
I'll tell you, bruh, the rest of the professor of
the league's could take note of these athletes because they
are like, they are doing stuff that no Roger they
would never in the end, the NFL would never.

Speaker 4 (01:53:22):
What never?

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Coming up next, I'm gonna tell you just why Alex
is a little misguided. He's not wrong, I'm not upset,
I'm not mad. I'm just a little disappointed. Opinion on
Damian Little. We get to that coming up next, all right,
So I have a take on this and we have

(01:53:44):
time for it. Tommy Richmond, this song Million Dollar Baby,
I've never been a big industry plant guy. I've heard
three of his songs from this guy, I'm convinced that
the only reason this song exists was to make the
wingstock commercial.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Tell me I'm mine. I don't know, man, tell me
I'm lying.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
For the rest of the music I heard from this dude,
I'm like, Yo, who.

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
Is this joke? You didn't like? Devil was a lie?

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
It was a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
That's the second, the first big the second biggest lie
the devil ever told was saying that song was good.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
The first one was Andrew Wiggins and that Steph Curry
Championship twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Yeah, it's like, where did this guy come from? Never
to be seen since from before or since?

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Andrew Wigs all of a sudden, just the second best
player in the championship team?

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
Who fake you would it would have guessed?

Speaker 3 (01:54:30):
What a drop into the half pipe For the last segment.

Speaker 4 (01:54:32):
Here, so.

Speaker 3 (01:54:34):
Damian Lillard goes back to Portland and you know you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Alex Monico, Actually I should say Martin Wise joined here
with Alex Monico. Thanks for joining us. Jason Martin and
Aaron Torres up next. I don't remember a time until
the last year. I said last eighteen months when Damian
Lidler was in Portland where he was like not only

(01:55:04):
do not only did he not say I don't want
to leave? He says I want to be here, this
is where I want to win, And like it's like
what Devin Booker essentially is doing in this moment, right,
It's like I want to be in Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
Yeah, I think it's I don't care for it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:21):
For Devin Bookers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
I think he's a player that if he swung to
the Eastern Conference, could really actually make a massive difference
wing the Eastern Conference. But there's something to me, there
is something that touches twelve year old Martin's heart to
know that Damian Liller did not want to leave until
it got so bad that he felt like he you
know what I'm saying, he had to.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
I've heard a little bit about this, how what's the
best ending?

Speaker 4 (01:55:52):
Like what is the best? Like Dame is thirty two,
thirty one, whatever it is, this is going to be
the end of it. Thirty five, my god, way off.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
But either way, at thirty five, this is the end, right,
this is gonna be the end of like this, this
Achilles is not gonna be a massive, super high level
impact player, right if he can come to Portland, the
next time he takes the court will be this massive

(01:56:26):
coordination that everybody in there will be clapping. It'll leave
Sports Center, It'll there'll be kids crying and whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
The Motive Center, I think, yeah, there will be kids
crying in.

Speaker 4 (01:56:38):
That room, crying because they're nineteen and forty and because
Damn's back.

Speaker 3 (01:56:43):
But here's the thing they sucked before anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
But also too, I thought this when I saw the number,
I was like, three years, forty two million.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
Okay, it's about the mid level exception. And in a
world where.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Brad Beal is getting player options and Marcus Smart, like
when buyout players are getting player options.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
Just ask anyone who's came to LA. You could do
a lot worse than a.

Speaker 2 (01:57:16):
Two year, a two year, twenty eight million dollar contract
for Damian Lilich.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
There's no point part of you that thinks he's duck
in the smoke here. I just don't buy that he wanted.
I genuinely think mid thirties on the back nine. I
live here, I'm rehabbing here. I don't belong to any
team right now, all this re sign and I'll flip
the narrative because of twelve year old Martin's heart, he

(01:57:46):
knows there's gonna be a lot of fuel, good positive
press or reality is, he won nothing in his entire career.

Speaker 3 (01:57:54):
He won nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
And he's one of the most clutch players in the league. Sure,
one of the most decorated point guards in these kind
of playoff moments for sure. Yeah. And and this guy
used to take on the challenge, win at Russell Westbrook,
win at Paul George in his face, tapped his wrists.
Now to me, he's taking easy way out. It's almost

(01:58:17):
like kid leaves the nest, goes to the big city,
gets a little scared, pushed around, didn't work out like
the movies, goes back to base camp, plays a safe
He already knows this result.

Speaker 3 (01:58:30):
Oh the irony that holiday's back there too.

Speaker 4 (01:58:32):
I'm very disappointed, Martin, because this guy could have been
a sixth Man of the Year next year. He could
have been on a polarizing team. Now we're gonna watch
him huck.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Up, please see or getting to the point, could have
been on a polarizing team.

Speaker 3 (01:58:47):
You know what it is, you're mad he's gonna be boring.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
That's your issue, and I understand its.

Speaker 4 (01:58:56):
Imagine Dave Lillard on the Lakers next year, all through bench.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
Next year, he's off right, let's saying next year. He's saying, man,
next year, next year, the year after next. But that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
We I'm not if you the year before the Indiana
Pacers went to the Eastern Conference Finals for this first run.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
You never would have thought it could have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:59:20):
I'm not saying new Portland Trail Blazers is about to
go on some crazy run, but I do notice the
NBA is going towards size.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
They got it, and I think that while they are
not going to be a very competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Team next season, season after that, you could sell me
on them being a team that is potentially fighting for
a not necessarily home court, but to stay out of
the play in spot. And I think if you're in
that spot and you have Damian Lillard coming off your
bench and you have Drew holl like that to me
is a kind of a level of foundation, because what

(01:59:53):
happens with all these other teams that suck, like the Hornets,
they don't have a dame to come back they also
don't have. Like I said, if Marcus Farsan with a
horn as, I'd be into it because Son's got to
be a pro. You can watch Damian Littman rehab and
see how he attacks his rehabits. I do think he's
gonnattack that crazy and just watch so Drew Holliday carries himself.
If you're like Shad and sharpen that, I don't hate

(02:00:13):
it as much as everybody. I give your point, but
I don't hate it because not everybody can win.

Speaker 4 (02:00:18):
There is a positive pm W storyline to this. I'm
just not buying it. I'm in the business of big
names in big cities, and he's all, now he's going
to again. Yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna play
his career out in the playing tournament like that. It's like,

(02:00:39):
what are you doing in a small market.

Speaker 3 (02:00:40):
I want to root for the big guys. I know
this big money markets right now coming up next

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