Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell preview NFL Headlines heading into Week 11, the NFC West Battle of the Weekend, & MORE!

On a new episode of FOX Football Sunday with Mike Harmon & Greg Cosell, Mike and Greg recap the Patriots dominance over the Jets on Thursday Night Football, the NFC West battle between the Seahawks + Rams, the Stafford MVP + go in depth previewing each game of Week 11 in the NFL ! 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Greetings and welcome in. It is another beautiful Fox Football Sunday,
Week eleven of your National Football League season already underway.
We'll go through the particulars of that first game from
the winning side, because that's far more compelling as we
roll through. As much as we love chaos, for the
purpose of the show today, we will highlight greatness at
every opportunity. Welcome in on Mike Garment alongside me forty

(00:27):
six years NFL films the Matchup Show and he joins
Colin Cowherd on Thursdays one pm Eastern. It's my buddy,
Greg Coast Cell. We're back together for another fun and
exciting two hour run here at Fox Sports Radio at
Greg Coast Cell. Greg, another big week, and as I
look at it, we've got fifteen games in total, only

(00:49):
the Saints and Colts taking the week off, so one
Jonathan Taylor cannot save people's fantasy teams this week. But
we've got a slate that I would say is about
half and a half half of really great games and
compelling matchups on both sides. A few whether it's one sided,
and what are they? Can you know can they avoid
a letdown? And then of course there's always a couple

(01:10):
of hey, I'm really happy for your home team kind
of situations.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
No, there's some good ones this week, Mike, for sure,
some really compelling games. I know we'll get to those
in some detail. But looking forward to another Sunday morning, Hey,
it's football Sunday. What could be better than that?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Absolutely, we get an early game. We've got the Commanders
and the Dolphins coming to us from the stadium of
Real Madrid. So another one of these international fairs.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I think it's the last one, is it not international game?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, So that'll do it some some to talk about
on that game. We'll get to that coming up in
about ten minutes from now. But we hit the rewind
button and we go back to Thursday night because a
lot of conversation flowing out of it, particularly on the
winning side. As we talk about a certain young quarterback.
Let's hear a little Drake May at work.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Stapp to May looks to his left, he pumps, he throws,
pull puts down Patriots and who cut it trivial Underson.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Tred for the rookie, have yourself a day, Rooke, no
question about it. Three touchdowns too on the ground. The
receiving end there from Drake May, who operated from what
might have been the cleanest pocket we will see all
season long. They got one sack on him, a couple
of hurries, but twenty five and thirty four overall, throwing

(02:31):
to a lot of space and Stefan Diggs celebrating the
birth of a child, goes for nine and one hundred
and five, Greg And what looks a lot closer than
I think it in terms of the final box score
as to opposed to watching it on Thursday night, to
where if you didn't have the scoreboard in front of you,
you would have thought New England was up forty.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah. May's obviously played extremely well this year. He's so
poised and composed. You watch him war in the pocket,
kind of navigate the pocket. Everything looks controlled, Mike, Everything
looks calculated. He sees the field with clarity. You know
what a lot of defenses try to do with young
quarterbacks is they do what we call late coverage rotation.

(03:16):
They show you something pre snap and then they change
the picture post snap, and that can be very difficult
for you on quarterbacks because it speeds up their internal clock.
They don't have a lot of time to begin with,
and then for a millimeter of a second they don't
see it the right way. That can be a little difficult,
but he is really really good at seeing things. Even

(03:36):
versus that late coverage rotation, it does not slow down
its processing. And one other point, they are so good
on first down, and I think that's a really important point.
I think you and I have probably talked about this before,
but first down is normally the best down to throw
on for multiple reasons. And they are aggressive throwing the
ball on first down. And May's been phenomenal eight touchdowns

(03:59):
on first downs, no interceptions, completing seventy eight percent of
his passes. He's in the top three in the league
in terms of dropbacks on first down. So the Patriots,
even with a young quarterback and a defensive head coach,
very often you hear, oh, defensive head coach, they're not
going to throw it. They throw it on first down,
and they've been really really good.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Starting to see just that difference in philosophy, I think
some of those old models are getting shaken up a bit. Yeah,
we'll talk a little bit about Dan Campbell fist pumping
before a play, even gets snapped knowing he's got a
big one in the offing as he's got that big
play sheet under his arm and the looking all studious
with the glasses on the sideline. But for Mike Brable,

(04:42):
it's been a fantastic ron. I think the most impressive
thing one we get Henderson and we've been waiting to
see him unleashed a little bit more. We've seen the
big playability here with Ramandre Stevenson out once again. Has
the Lions share nineteen of the twenty on on our
twenty seven. I should say rushing attempts overall, but still

(05:05):
being judicious with the usage, knowing that as the weather turns,
perhaps you're gonna need a little more of the short
game and the run game to take over with that explosiveness.
But in the passing game, mac Hollins was number two.
Stefan Diggs, as I said, stepped up with nine of
eleven there and the efficiency, but without that true because

(05:25):
is Stefan Diggs still you know, would you still consider
him that true number one that he was those years ago?
I mean spreading the ball around and Drake may standing
tall in the pocket week after week, it's no Fluke
at this point folks that wanted to dismiss this new
England team early.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
No, I don't think Diggs is a true number one
in that sense, but I think it's a really well
schemed offense. Josh McDaniels obviously has been doing this for
a long time, Mike, But I wouldn't put Diggs, you know,
in the category of the guys we think of as
true number ones. But I think one important point here,
and we overlook it because of Drake May. Their defense
is very very good. Now they just lost Milton Williams

(06:04):
and that's a big deal for four games. Uh, and
he's a very important player. But their defense is very good.
They've got good players at all three levels, and they're
not a high percentage pressure defense. They're very selective with it,
but they're very good when they do blitz and very
typical of Rabel. They've got guys that you've probably never

(06:24):
heard of. A couple of guys, uh, you know that
that are really important players. Like they have this kid
Elijah Ponder who's from San I guess cal Poly San
Luis Obispo. I just by the way, loves saying San
Luis Obispo. Yeah, it just flows beautifully, doesn't it. But
you know, here's a kid. I'm watching the tape of
their defense over these last couple of weeks and I'm saying,

(06:45):
who is this guy? And then I look them up because,
to be honest, with all the pre draft work I do,
I did not know who Elijah Bonder was. You know,
he's in the Big Sky Conference. Like I said, cal
Poly San Luis Obispo, his pre draft measurables were crazy,
they were phenomenal. And I'm watching him rush the quarterback
and I'm thinking, God, this guy can really rush the quarterback.

(07:05):
And then they have another kid on the d line
named Durden. I believe it is. And you know, this
typical of Rabel. He doesn't care what your pedigree is.
He wants guys that can perform and play and give
effort and can take hard coaching. That's a big deal
with Mike Rabel. Hard coaching and that doesn't mean yelling
at you. That means coaching guys, and that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's funny. We looked up Durden the other day, right
his name coming up a bit. As you mentioned here, Greg,
he was originally a free agent pickup by the Lions.
Then went to the Rams, spent a little bit of
time with the Giants before finding his way to New England.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
And I think when he came out of high school,
I think he was maybe not a five star. But
did he start at Florida State? Somehow that sticks.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
In my mind that that was right, yep.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, And so he's not obviously, you know, it's just
a small school guy that didn't come didn't have any pedigree.
But obviously he moved around was viewed as a big
time prospect. But guys like that, you know, they're really
really important to Mike Rabel. If you can line up
and play and take hard coaching, you're going to play
for Mike Rabel.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, I would look at that defense. I mean, obviously
Gonzalez was the big name from the twenty three draft.
You bring in Landry and Carlton Davis and.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Look at the safety Woodson. Woodson's a fourth round pick,
I believe from Cal is the fourth rounder. You got it, yeah,
because I remember I evaluated him coming out because Cal
amazingly enough had a number four players last year on
defense and then a bunch of them play a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Pretty amazing considering what that team was.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So yeah, so, so, I mean you're dealing with you know,
here's Woodson. That's the reason they got rid of Kyle
Duggar because you know, Woodson beat out dugger so and
he's played well. So you know this is I don't
want to give short thrift to this defense. And this
takes nothing away from Drake May who's obviously playing phenomenal football.
But they are not a one dimensional team.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
No, absolutely got to celebrate it on both side. It's
clearly a lot of run, no question about it. For
Drake May as he is the favorite in the MVP
race as we sit here ahead of the rest of
the games of week eleven, and certainly some other candidates
like Stafford and others will get to make their mark,
no question about it. We talk about the New England
defense overall. They are currently fifth in what I call

(09:22):
total defense. I do only care how many points you
give up, Greg right, you can move the ball between
the twenties all you want. I don't care. Eighteen point
seven points per game allowed. That has done good, about
two points behind the leaders, who are the Houston Texans.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
So yeah, and by the way, do you think that
people could name their two predominant edg rushers. If you
just say, hey, who are the two predominant edge rushers
for the Patriots, you think that would just flow up,
But people's tongue, no, I would doubt it. No, it's
it's a soundration. Yeah, it's Landry who was with him
in Tennessee with Rabel and Tennessee. And then it's another
example of a guy who's been with a few teams

(09:58):
is Chase On and he was a first round pick
when he came out of LSU. Actually thought he'd be
a good pro. But it's starting to show up now.
So again, now you have to start to think about
the coaching end of it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Six and a half on the year ten tackles disruptors
taking care of business. Obviously it's the Jets. So you know,
the only thing there is continued chaos. As we watched
that unfold, you had that opening drive, Greg and I thought, hey,
we're at least going to get a game for a
while here. Turns out that was really it did get.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
To be twenty one to fourteen in the third quarter. Mic, So,
I mean, I don't think anybody felt watching the game
that the Jets were going to win even at that point.
But I mean it's an NFL team and it's an
NFL game.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, Yeah, that first drive was impressive, though going full
seventy two, we only had what one and a half
drives through a first quarter of a game. Yeah, New
England drive wasn't even finished at that point.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Look, I mean there's not obviously a lot to say
about the Jets. I mean, I think we now understand
that Fields, justin Fields is not an NFL starting quarterback.
They know that, you know, That's the reason they made
those trades. They're just trying to accumulate as many draft
picks as possible. And again, this may not be a
good quarterback draft. We'll find out. But you know, you know,

(11:12):
when you don't have a quarterback, you know, guys that
you probably shouldn't draft start to look good because you
don't have one.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you start doing the unfair comparison to what you're
sitting with correct posed to what you really need most Like, yeah,
in those draft rooms. As we look ahead here, Greg,
we got this game coming up in about an hour
and fifteen minutes. Those early fantasy lineups that folks have
to get in Washington, Miami, Miami about a field goal

(11:39):
favorite forty seven the total, just to kind of inform
it from a larger expectation of offense. Here Mike McDaniel
getting the vote of confidence and the push and for
to a tongue of bailoa. The last couple of weeks
found great success after saying he couldn't see jail and
waddle the last three weeks. Sixteen catches and some pretty
big numbers flow and through for him. Looking at what

(12:03):
it's sixty catches averaging eighty eight yards per games, got
two touchdowns, eight chan obviously the big explosives last week.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, but you.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Go up against a Washington squad that at this point
we don't really have an identity. You've got Mariota under
center with the hope that Daniels could come back after
their bye week which is week twelve, and mclaurin's still
on the shelf, deebos in and out of the lineup.
He's their leading receiver with all of three hundred and
ninety six yards.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, and you know, getting back to Miami because obviously
they had the big, big win last week, you always
have to be a little careful with them. I always
tell people, obviously they've not played well two has been
very up and down, and two is a certain kind
of quarterback and he is what he is and he's
not much more than that. But there's any given week
where they can look very good and they've got speed.
Eight Chane. You'd probably say that eight Chane and Tamir

(12:51):
gives the two fastest backs in the league. Certainly, Waddell
is an explosive player, so any given week they can
really they can go off a little bit. And that's
what we saw last week against the Bills, So you
never know.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well, credit to you, you saw that one lying in
the weeds there.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
I did. I did.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
As we talked about it last week, you said look
out for the speed element.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
And we'll get to Buffalo because there's a lot to
say about that because that's one of the big games
this weekend, Bucks at Bills, and we'll get to that
in some detail a little later. But you always have
to be a little careful with Miami. They just and
you know what, say what you want about Mike McDaniel.
You know, we're not there. Nobody can say whether he's
a good head coach bad head coach. You'd have to
be there to know that. But I'll tell you what

(13:35):
When it comes to offensive football and scheming, he is
one of the best in the league, and he's highly
highly respected, So you know, you always have to be
careful when you play Miami that you're going to see
some things that are difficult to defend.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah. I enjoy him immeasurably. First off, the scheme on
the field, but certainly even the pressers that many dismiss.
I'm always looking for nuggets I find. I find him
an interesting guy that I think his mind is racing
five times as fast as it is mouth.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I've been fortunate tape. Yeah, I've been fortunate enough to
be around him. He's incredibly intelligent. He just doesn't come across,
you know, in that stereotypical football coach way, which I
think leads a lot of people to believe, oh, he's
not a head coach. But again, unless you're there, you
don't know that. But he's incredibly intelligent, and when it
comes to offensive football, some call him a savant. He

(14:25):
just has a great feel for how to use personnel, formations, motions,
all kinds of things that make it difficult to defend.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Winners of two of their last three, they had that
win over Atlanta thirty four to ten, that a loss
to Baltimore, rebounded last week that win against Buffalo. Still
a lot left on their schedule here, Greg, you got Washington,
then the bye week, New Orleans, the Jets, the Steelers,
we'll talk about them a little bit. The Bengals well
by that point, maybe maybe not Joe Burrow. And then

(14:56):
you got Tampa and New England to close out the year.
But those next five games, including this game against Washington,
winnable games if you can keep the mistakes to them
inimum and suddenly you find yourself fighting back towards the
wildcard opportunity.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
No question. I mean again, I doubt people think of
them right now as a playoff type team. But you
know how it is with players. I mean, I hear
this all the time. I love when people say things like, oh,
are they going to quit on the coach? Well, you know,
I don't think these players when they go out there
on Sunday think in terms of well, I'm not really
going to play hard today because I don't like the coach.

(15:33):
I mean, do fans really think that, you know that
when a guy's out there back playing, yeah, I mean,
do they really think that that's what players think, well,
you know what, I'm really not going to try today
because you know what, I don't really like the coach.
I mean, come on, that is that is almost ridiculously
stupid to think like that.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Let me go into my contract negotiations. Yeah, I got
up six weeks of bad tape why spite?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I played terribly this year because
I just didn't like the coach.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I mean, come on, how long do you think that
works in a football world?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Like, hey, how how many years can I get away with? Well?
And then they brought in that guy and clearly we
did not get along and see how to ie, you know,
because he was Star Trek, I was Star Wars. He's
great guy. Sell at greg go cell where you find
him on Twitter. Find me over at Swollen Dome.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Hey.

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(17:05):
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back in Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Looking at
the early morning the playoff picture up on the AFC
in the studio and gets me all excited because we're
getting towards that time of year. You know, it's rained

(18:10):
for forty eight hours here in Los Angeles, Greg, so
the world is shut down.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I guess it doesn't rain a lot out there.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Huh well, I mean they did have that in a song.
I mean, all those years ago. It never in southern California.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know who did that song?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Catch You? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think it was Albert Hammond.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Maybe that sounds right?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Does that ring a bell?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
That does sound right? I'm usually pretty good at those.
I don't think my second cup of coffee as and.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
I think he was actually the same guy who wrote
a very famous song by the Hollies. If I'm not mistaken,
you'll know the holly song The air that I breathe.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's consumtames area.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
That's it. That's it. I believe it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And to love you there you yeah, Yeah, musical history
here as we.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Roll, Hey you get we get everything here, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, it's a very eclectic thing. Saw the reboot of
The running Man with my daughters almost thirty eight years
to the day of the release of the original Schwarzenegger film.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
So years ago.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Wow, pretty scary, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
It is.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That's crazy because that's the last time I got to
really celebrate massive Chicago football success.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
We're at Was there any good movie by the way?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Good? Yeah, you know, Josh Brolin's always a win. Yeah,
Glenn Powell's got that uh you know, southern snarky, smart
ass thing, and uh you know, as a resident loudmouth
here in the studio, I got I got some of
that in me. So I appreciate some some one liners
along the way, and Coleman Domingo takes on the Richard Dawson.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Role with uh Richard, there you go.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, Hogan's heroes into eventually The running Man. But certainly
I'll watch some Family Feud reruns every now.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
And yeah, I was going to say Family Feud. Probably
allt of people remember him mostly from that.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Walking around and uh yeah, let's to have us a kiss. Well,
I tell you that's different times in the game show world.
I have no question about it. But some classics there.
You can find that. On Game show Network you want
to go back, and certainly on YouTube you want to
relive the game shows of the seventies, Peter Tamarkin and
all those guys. While we're running around with it. Wink

(20:20):
Martindale not just a great defensive coach, one hell of
a game show host as well. So all of that
to say.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think we're a little off track here, Mike, Hey, hey.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Hey, I tied it back into football. I got it
back in all right, tamping Buffalo. Buffalo is six favorite
at home, forty six and a half. Two of my
favorite quarterbacks getting after it here, the Buccaneers, losers of
two of three. You're looking at Baker at a sixty
four percent completion rate, sixteen to two touchdown to interception ratio.
It'll be White and Sean Tucker still waiting for Bucky

(20:53):
Irving to go, and since his departure, we'd kind of
highlight how much he meant to them as a runner
and a receiver. But certainly the walking wounded in that
receiving core week to week with Baker Mayfield wondering who's
showing up to line up in the outer positions formed.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Right, Yeah, they've they've not looked very rhythmic the last
number of weeks. Obviously, Irving gives them explosiveness as a back,
both as a runner and receiver. They don't have that
right now. So their offense has been a little uneven,
let's use that word. But I think the bigger story
here is really the Bills. And you know, the Bills

(21:32):
are a team I watch really closely and have for
years and years, and you know, I've talked about this
even going back to last year, particularly in the matchup
room here with my guys. The Bills passing game in
many ways, with its concepts, is somewhat elementary, and it's
so there's a number of things that work here. The

(21:54):
past game concepts are somewhat elementary. Allan does have a
tendance obviously to break down in the pocket prematurely and
make special plays with his legs and his arm. But
what's happening now is, for whatever reason, he's not trusting
the process, however basic it may be, He's not delivering

(22:16):
the ball within the structure that is presented. So you
have a combination here that's very it's very odd. You
have it an offensive approach in the past game that
doesn't really present a lot to him, and I don't
know whether he's not comfortable with it. I don't know
the reason. But there's just not a lot to their
passing game right now, and it's just it's a hard

(22:39):
watch right now. And I don't know what their playing is.
I know they're changing receiver's word is that Kean Coleman's
going to be a healthy scratch. The Hardman is up.
I think Gabe Davis will be up. Look, when Gabe
Davis left Buffalo, he was just another guy, So I
don't know what they expect from him. The only thing
with Hardman is he can run. So I'm very anxious

(22:59):
to see them today because this is a pass game
that needs a lot more conceptually in what they do
with route concepts and combinations.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, the Davis said, what ten games, twenty catches for
the Jaguars now returns to Buffalo going to get elevated. There,
you mentioned Kean Coleman, a healthy scratch for Josh Allen
overall seventy percent completion, three to one touchdown to interception
ratio fifteen to five, career best in terms of completion
percentage at that seventy point three percent and yards per

(23:30):
attempt at eight point one, but trying to find some
sumblance of consistency. The Dalton Concaid's out for this one.
Yeah as well, Who's been a leading receiver for them
a number of times. And we've talked about trying to
find that go to trustworthy guy. I mean, Khalil Shakir
can move the chains, but the explosives aren't there.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
So yeah, and as good as Alan is and there's
no question he's a terrific quarterback, he does have that tendency.
If he doesn't see it right away, he's going to
leave the pocket. And we know he can make special plays.
That's a given. He's done that his whole career and
some of the plays he makes are just incredible, wow plays.
But that's not the way to build a consistent pass

(24:11):
game that you can count on week to week. You know,
no coach rolls the ball out in practice and says, hey,
you know what, let's just run around and see what
happens today, and then hey, good things may happen. You
can't do that. You've got to find a way to
play within the structure of the offense with some kind
of consistency.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Now as we look a little further down the schedule,
Greg we get the return of Brock Purty yep, and
a lot's been made of it the last few weeks
of the difference between mac Jones and brock Purty in
terms of their orchestration of the offense. Jones a quitting
himself quite nicely during this stretch five and three record
Party hasn't been under center since going back to September

(24:54):
for the forty nine ers as a whole minus eight
and the take in the turnover ratio fifteen giveaway on
the year. We talked about Christian McCaffrey. He's already up
over thirteen hundred total yards on the season. They will
get Ricky Piers All back in looking at the squad
and then I kind of their ebb and flow. He
hasn't played since the end of September and he's still

(25:16):
their third leading receiver by a pretty wide margin. So
some happy returns here. But I guess the elemental thing
is how much difference is the offense with Brock Purdy
under center.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Probably it won't be much different conceptually. I think one
difference between Purdy and Jones and make no mistake, Purdy's
a better quarterback. Purty's a little more aggressive throwing the ball.
And now that they get Pierce All back, you know,
Piersall might not be a true vertical dimension the way
you think of pure speed, but he does have enough.
What he does give you something vertically, and I think

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that's been lacking in their offense. Now. Granted, it's a
very choreographed offense. It's very structured, and then Kyle Shanahan
always believes that he can call plays that eat the
defense he anticipates and expects, so that's really how they
structure their pass game. But Purdy's just a guy that
he'll be a little more aggressive throwing the ball. Purty

(26:10):
is I don't like to use the word elade because
it's too strong a word, but he's a really good
post snap operator because their offense is what we call
pure progression. So in other words, they call plays and
there's a primary, there's a secondary, there's a third, and
then the quarterback will move and Purdy's really good at recognizing, hey,

(26:31):
what's the defense. My primary is going to be there? No,
my primary is not. Now my secondary's there. He's really
good post snap. Now, Jones is good too, but I
think Purdy's really high level.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Now as we look at this game six and four,
the forty nine ers still trying to fight in the West.
We'll talk about Seahawks and Rams in about ten minutes
from now, but another game here in division for the
forty nine ers. They've got Arizona on the other side,
operating with Jacoby Brissett, who's been fantastic. Trey McBride has
really elevated his game here over the last several weeks

(27:04):
thirty two catches over three hundred yards, five scores. He
was one of those guys last year marching up and
down the field, but seemed like he had well fear
of the painted grass. Okay, well that was more of
the quarterbacking in the red zone, but either way it
played out that way. Here he's finding his stride. Nope,
Fred Warner, we're seeing tight end's feast in that regard

(27:28):
since he's been off the field. Big big game for
San Francisco on the very big three and a half
point favorites for here. No Marvin Harrison Junior out after
an appendectomy. De Mercado Demarcado will be the leader in
the backfield for Arizona, but just a different flow with
Jacoby Brissett and pretty dangerous against a San Francisco defense

(27:53):
that's not getting the same level of juice and heat
on quarterbacks that we're used to.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
No, they've not been able to rush the court back
effectively with their four down linemen, So that becomes a
week to week thing. What does Robert Salo want to do?
Depending on the opponent, you could see more blitz pressure
this week. It's not a very good Cards all aligned.
Jacoby Brissett at times will hold the ball in the pocket.
But at least what Prissette gives you is there's a
little sense of structure to the pass game. He'll make

(28:20):
the throws, he sees it, he'll make the throws, but
he does have a tendency to hold the ball a
Last week's game for the Cards was just one of
those games. Not that you burn the tape, No coaches
ever do that. They obviously look at the tape. But
they were down thirty five nothing early in the second quarter.
Tough to really play that way, but they're really their
defense is not an easy defense to play against. They're

(28:42):
very they're very tactical and how they approach things. They
don't have great corners. We'll see. This is like you said,
this is a big game for the Niners to stay
in the race because obviously we'll talk about Seahawks Rams,
which is one of the two biggest games on the
schedule this week, but they've they've got to win this
game to stay, you know, within within a chance of

(29:03):
winning the division.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, there's no question this one this week. Eleven matchup
division matchups there in the NFC West. Yeah, looming large
and nothing bigger than Stafford and Sam Donald. I still
just like being able to talk about Sam Donald in
big games. It really just tickles the funny bone. Just
the way the NFL works. Guys get the opportunity and

(29:28):
they bounce a little bit, find a right system, a
right coach, and an approach, and they're certainly in Seattle
on both sides of the ball. It's working that night.
I work with a Jets fan five nights a week, Greg,
So whatever he's Jet now good. It goes on a
giant board here.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
For I mean, we'll get to that in detail, but
it's coaching in scheme with quarterbacks. You know, there's very
few transcendent quarterbacks. People might think there are, but there
are very few, and even the ones that we consider great.
I mean, I get an opportunity to talk to defense
of coaches and they'll tell you that there are certain
flaws and games of quarterbacks we think are just great,

(30:05):
and they are great, but you know, the defenses still
see things and know that, hey, if we can do
this or do that, they're not going to be as good.
So with a quarterback, it comes down to coaching and
scheme more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
At Greg Cosell where you find them on Twitter, find
me over at Swollen Dome. As we continue here, let's
get to another game. As my guys, we're leaving. We
have a number of our brethren here at Fox Sports
Radio that work on the Chargers broadcast. They were killing
it the quote return to the scene of the crime.
Minus three are the Chargers on the road against the

(30:39):
Jacksonville Jaguars. When we talk about the Jaguars still tied
for second in terms of turnover differential, just behind Chicago,
the leaders in the clubhouse there but for Trevor Lawrence
ten touchdowns against seven picks. Injuries plaguing that receiving core
etn is explosive on occasion, but certainly not the consistency

(31:01):
they anticipated. But for the Chargers, it's been a lot
of early success with other receivers, but the past five
or six weeks it's that connection between Herbert and Lad
McConaughey once again.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, and they've they've run the ball well enough that
it's they've been able to sort of settle down a
little bit because they just don't have a very good
offensive line. And when you don't have a very good
offensive line as good as Herbert's been by the way
making plays with his legs, you don't want to really
be in that situation all the time, you know. But
on the other side of the ball, you know, I've

(31:33):
always enjoyed watching Jesse Minter, the decoordinator for the Chargers,
even going back to Michigan. I think he does really
good things. Now. He's not what should call a high
percentage Blitzer mic, but he's very selective and he's very
very good at it. And this particular opponent, the Jaguars,
with an old line that's probably just okay, and a
quarterback quite frankly Lawrence who's not played particularly well and

(31:57):
he's played long enough now that we start to think
this is who he is. I would not be surprised
to see a little bit higher blitz frequency in this
game by Jesse Minter. Doesn't mean he's all of a
sudden gonna blitz, you know, fifty percent of the time,
but I think you'll see him just amp up and
dial up some more blitzes and in certain high leverage situations,

(32:17):
long yardede situations, and I think that'll be a problem
for the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Could be a big opportunity on both sides to get
home twenty six sacks allowed by the Jaguars, Herbert has
taken thirty three. To your point about using his legs,
he's got more rushing yards than Josh Allen at this
point in the season.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, No, he's been doing that quite a bit. And
again some of that's a function of the fact that
the old line obviously they're playing with backup tackles, and
it's hard in this league to play with backup tackles.
I mean, it's just you know, to spit weigh so
much exactly, Yeah, I mean, because yeah, then you have
to start keeping people in whether they're primary pass protectors,
which means you're cutting down on the number of eligible

(32:57):
receivers you send out into routes or even if the
chip that means that they're not really primary receivers, they
are sort of later in the down receivers. So it
impacts what you can do in your pass game because
I learned this a long time ago from John Gruden.
And the first thing when I was talking to John
Gruden years ago that he said to me was, you

(33:18):
don't have a pass game if you can't protect. And
he's right, if you can't protect, you don't have a
pass game. So protection always has to be number one.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
See always one of my favorites. When you start talking
about a point, you really had to pay attention because
you would get this guy and it's like, well, okay,
who was he talking about.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm not sure, right, right, right, right? But what? But no,
I mean so it all Look, you know, they've gotten
decent production, pretty good from from Vidal the running back,
and you know, I assume it'll continue to be him.
I guess Hampton should.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Be back either next week or the week after. Yeah, yeah,
be able to be ramped up.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, because because with that O line, they do need
to have some let's put it this, they need some
volume in their run game. Obviously, everybody wants production, but
they can't have with that old line. Herbert dropping back
forty five times a game by choice just not sustainable.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
The big end game goal here, as I joke about
it often as I drive the highways of Los Angeles,
we've got the accident and injury attorneys, the theme parks,
and we've got Harbaugh and the Chargers up on the
billboards there. Greg, So you be able to sell those
and get in there and be playing into January to

(34:31):
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(35:38):
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(36:22):
game for the division lead, and one guy making his
claim for an MVP nod. Matthew hows It, throws down
the line tunnel screen, Pooka.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Nakua gets one block, now another.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's cleaned. Ten.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Five touchdown Pooka ten.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
The Rams serge to a two touchdown lead in Santa Clara,
Hey go the Rams radio network on the call. Sixty
seven percent completion rate overall, twenty five touchdown against two picks,
thirteen touchdowns the last two weeks. Nikua with touchdowns four
of five, Adams with six touchdowns over the last three weeks.

(36:57):
Nine overall. The offensive jug or not that the run through,
even if the run game has its fits and starts
along the way. With Korum and Williams, Greg I mean's
Matthew Stafford. I think finally getting some of those appreciation notes,
even though he was great for all those years in
Detroit was kind of dismissed. Teaming him up with Sean

(37:19):
McVay takes him to that whole next level.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Oh, there's no question about that. I mean, he's always
been a great quarterback. But I got to tell you, Mike,
they made a change this year beginning three weeks ago.
You just don't see this kind of change in the
middle of a season. This is a team that three
weeks ago started playing with what we call thirteen personnel,
one back, three tight ends, and only one wide receiver
on the field. Okay, the last three games they've played

(37:45):
eighty nine snaps at a thirteen personnel and the first
five games of this season no snaps at a thirteen personnel.
Last year three snaps total for the whole season. So
this is a truly dramatic change. And think of this.
In these last three games, Okay, Stafford has dropped back

(38:08):
thirty two times at a thirteen personnel. He's throwing eight
touchdown passes. That's remarkable. One quarter of his dropbacks in
thirteen personnel in the last three games have been touchdown passes.
And a couple of other points about it. Nicoua really
only plays when they're an eleven personnel with three wide

(38:30):
receivers on the field. He does not play when they
have two tight ends on the field hardly ever, and
he never plays when they're with three tight ends and
the wide receiver and three tight ends is usually Devonte Adams,
sometimes it's Mumpfield. But this is just an unbelievably dramatic
change in their offensive approach.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Just an amazing run and a heater that they're on
right now is one of the marquee matchups of this
part of the season. Forty eight and a half. The
total rams about a field goal are three and night
hook favorite with Sam Darnold and company coming in. Sam
seventeen to six touchdown to interception ratio, averaging nearly nine
yards per attempt. He's only thrown the ball more than

(39:12):
thirty times three times in a game. That run game
hasn't been dominant, but as we talk about it, you
stay committed to it, grind clock, keep him honus, and
try to set up some opportunities downfield. The big thing
is always, all right, who's going to rise up alongside
JSN when they do a basketball box and one on them?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah? Well, now they have Shaheed and that fits the
entire approach of Klint Kubiak, who starts with the run game.
A lot of it is outside zone and then the
under center play action and push the ball down the field.
That's what they want to do. And now Shaheed with
another week of practice in another week, he obviously knows
the system. He was in New Orleans with Klink Kubiak,
so he's not started from scratch. But that's how they

(39:53):
want to play offense. But by the way, their defense,
and we could probably spend another segment talking just about
the Seahawks defense and the Rams defense, because both these
teams are very, very good and very defined in what
they do.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, no question about it. We've talked about that front
seven for the Rams quite a bit, but certainly for
Seattle McDonald that's the one thing you knew was going
to be there as he rolled up. They get the
defense in check, but certainly offensively with Sam Darnold. This
creates a very tasty matchup for us here in week eleven.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Sure does. Yeah, And I think the defense is something
we should just revisit quickly after the break because there's
some really good things there.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
We'll dive back in there. Some Jared Vers love, some
McDonald love. He's Greg Cosel, Mike Carbon, It's Fox Football
Sunday at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
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Speaker 2 (40:44):
Greetings, welcome in. It's our two of the program. Half hour.
He'll kick off of the Commanders and the Dolphins from
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games still to preview as we roll up and Greg,
we were talking about the Rams and the Seahawks, the

(41:48):
nod to the defenses, certainly Sam Darnold and Matthew Stafford
getting the run. But we'll look at the Rams currently
second in the NFL giving up just seventeen points per game.
Rectified some of those things in the secondary that they
still need a kicker and consistent special teams. But we'll
address the defense for now. Unless you can kick.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
No, no, no, I cannot I cannot kick.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Maybe you can selve that all. And then Seattle sitting
at nineteen point one points allowed per game, that's good
for six in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, two teams that have very good defensive fronts. Neither
team is really a high percentage blitz defense. What they
do do is they do what we call stunting, where
there's a penetrator and a looper behind, and they are
the two teams in the league that stunt the highest
percentage of the time with their four man d lines
and they're very, very good at it. Now, what's really

(42:43):
interesting about Seattle is because of nick em and Wari,
who is really a safety, but he's become sort of
their second level, multi dimensional player, lining up as the
slot corner, lining up in the box, doing multiple things.
Because of nick Emminwari, the Seahawks playing more nickel defense
than any team in the league. And on the flip side,

(43:04):
the Rams play more dime defense with six defensive backs
than any team in the league. So it'll be interesting
to see how these teams choose to play against the
particular opponent. I mean, we talked about the Rams playing
with three tight ends. Will the Seahawks continue to play
him and worry or will they go to what is
truly their base front, which is sort of five across.

(43:28):
I guess people think of it as a three to four.
I call it a five to two. So it'll be
interesting to see how Mike McDonald views is I just
to me watching tape, I would not take Nicki min
Worriy off the field.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Yeah, it's curious just going through some of the metrics
and some of the deeper dives. Fourth most blitzed on
the year's Matthew Stafford. Yes, and just Carvin teams up
if you can't get home. I think kind of going
back to those preseason injury issues and the fact that
he is not terribly mobile. Of our if we can collect,

(44:00):
we've got a shot. But I mean he gets the
ball out fast and two of the surest handed guys
in Nikua and Adams in the game.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, no, Stafford is. The great thing about Stafford too,
just having played so long, is he sees things before
the snap. He's very good checking audibling, doing whatever is
necessary before the snap. Keep in mind that against the
blitz this year he's thrown eighteen touchdowns without an interception.
That leads the NFL by far. So yes, he's been

(44:32):
blitzed a good amount in terms of just sheer numbers,
but he's been really really good versus blitz and Mike
McDonald is not by nature a high percentage blitzer.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And certainly here Stafford might just have a sign blinking
that says, ideare you which at eighteen to nothing ratio
that you cite.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Greg Well and the other thing. Just one quick point,
if they're going to play a lot more with you
continue playing with thirteen personnel, and one would think they
would given the six they've had, very very hard to
blitz versus thirteen personnel because of the defense that you're playing.
You know, Tom Brady and I made a note of this.
Tom Brady talked about this because he had that game.

(45:13):
He said the here's what he said. Because I really
made a note of this. I said, the interesting thing
about eleven personnel eleven now three y is that there's
probably twenty to twenty five different coverage combinations you can
face as a quarterback. When you go to with three
tight end grouping and they play more base defense, you're
only dealing with three or four combinations. So it simplifies

(45:34):
the defensive playbook by about twenty percent, so many less
looks for a quarterback to diagnose post snap and allows
you as a play call or to dial up exactly
what you want. That's what Tom Brady said doing the game,
and he obviously knows a little more about quarterbacking than
I do, so keep that in mind. That's one reason
why the thirteen personnel is such an effective personnel package.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Gives you the read. It's the tell at the poker table,
Matthew Stafford as he flows through. All right, so we've
got the well accomplished on the road. He and Drake
may ahead in the MVP candidacy. Thus far, Let's go
to another game, go to the NFCED north Well and
my guy who's starting to come into his own and

(46:18):
getting some love along the way, let's hear little Caleb Williams. Okay,
as we wait on that the Bears. All right, we'll
do that again. All right, let's tell you here, little
Caleb Williams Walls rolling was.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Left running now fifteen to ten, five head zone, tiptze
in touchdown in the blue pain. Caleb Williams seventeen yards.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Took care of business himself, the scramble to get it done.
Jeff Joniac on the call again. Some of those shots
from the Chicago radio booth and certainly their postgame show.
It's highly entertaining, even if you're not a fan of
the Bears, even if you hate the Bears, they are
animated to an entire different level. We look at Caleb
Williams right now, Greg thirteen touchdowns against four picks. Yeah,

(47:06):
sixty point eight completion rate certainly not the metric in
today's NFL that stands out. It only got one game
with greater than sixty percent completion rate since Week three.
But you're looking at a defense that's been greatly opportunistic
and Williams and Ben Johnson dialing up the right plays

(47:27):
when it matters in the fourth quarter of late.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, number of things. Number one, that winning touchdown, that
was a great snapshot of Williams at this point in
his development. For this reason, it was play action boot
left with Comet wide open immediately on the crosser from
the back side. That was the play. The ball should
have been thrown to Commet, but he kept the ball
and ran, so we had a great result on the

(47:51):
absolutely wrong decision. That's a very good snapshot of Williams
at this time. But the one thing that is starting
to really stand out is the Ben Jonson offenses really
starting to take shape. Williams has the second most play
action dropbacks from under center in the NFL, and that
is truly a foundation of the Ben Johnson passing game.

(48:11):
And so we're starting to see that Williams is obviously
a special talent who can make certain throws, particularly on
the move, that not a lot of guys can make.
Just with the velocity is what I'm talking about, and
he makes four or five plays a game. I mean,
you may remember the Burden twenty seven yard completion on
the winning TD drive. I know you're a Bears guy.

(48:34):
I mean that was a stutter go stop and that
was an unbelievable throw without standing anticipation, great timing, precise
ball placement. If you were sitting with me, Mike as
I'm watching that, and I froze it when Williams started
his delivery, you know, just when he separates his hand,
burden hadn't even really begun, you wouldn't have known where

(48:56):
he was throwing the ball. And that's the kind of
anticipation that you really love to see from a young quarterback.
So he's developing. But he's a little uneven, which is
one reason why you mentioned the completion percentage. But he's
you know, he's obviously still a work in progress, but
you know what, he makes really important plays and they're winning.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Well, it's it back to back wins, looking at six
of their last seven after those two opening losses in
division to the Vikings and Lions, and now gets another
shot at these Vikings on the road, a game that
was defined by the fourth quarter by JJ McCarthy that
first time out. And now we look at him on
the other side here absorbed a bunch of really, he'll

(49:40):
take his hits. He's averaging what's fifty three point seven
percent thus far, only one sack against Baltimore, but just
six point four yards per a ten. You've got justin
Jefferson still looking to find his way in this offense
just ten what twenty one yards over the last couple
of week weeks, and you're looking at Naylor was the

(50:02):
big hero a week ago on Jubern twenty four in
a touchdown, So that secondary guy that he was working
with on his way back. I guess we always kind
of point that out for fantasy purposes, but a Minnesota
offense that still begets a lot of questions.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah, two quick points. I just want to go back. Yeah,
I think that this game is going to be fascinating
to see what Brian Floreses does because don't forget they
played Week one. At that point, you're not sure what
Williams is going to look like in the Ben Johnson offense.
Now you have a lot of tape, and Flora's obviously
knows Ben Johnson, so I'm very curious to see. I
can't wait to see that tape next week when I

(50:37):
can really study it. But getting back to McCarthy, McCarthy
and none of this is a surprise, by the way, Okay,
this is not a surprise. So McCarthy is is a
very inexperienced player who has a lot more developing to do.
So what that often means for young quarterbacks. You see
it even with Jackson Dart, who's obviously not playing this week.

(50:59):
But McCarthy's playing a little fast mentally right now, and
that's not a surprise given his lack of experience, and
you can kind of see that reflected with his at
times lack of poison in the pocket. Everything's just happening
a little too fast for him, and that will slow
down with more experience. And I think I mentioned this
last week. There's one thing about the way he delivers

(51:21):
a ball with his lower body mechanics that a lot
of guys, there have been guys who've done this before,
and it just limits certain kinds of throws. He's what
we call a locked front and leg thrower, and so
when he steps in he locks that front knee, it locks,
and it's literally like running into a wall. And I'm
not a quarterback coach. I don't know if you can

(51:42):
fix that, because I actually think his arm in and
of itself is strong. But when you lock your front leg,
it limits your velocity because you can't bring your hips
and your core with you, so you don't really and
that's true in any sport. It'd be like trying to
hit in baseball without your hips or your core, you know,

(52:02):
then you're not going to have any power. So it's
it's it's a very interesting thing. And I'm curious to
see him as he develops under Kevin O'Connell.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Curious to see if that does lead to some physical
issues as well. Yeah, and if you're locking that way
and the torque and and trying to contort your body
along the way. But yeah, to your point, I mean,
go back to week one. I think it was trying
to figure out exactly what it would be and Williams
and and the Bears had success early and then Flores

(52:31):
won won the day Light with McCarthy making a couple
of big plays that put him on hero status, and
we saw some of that alter ego emerge. But certainly
much different game as we look at it here in Minnesota.
Nearly a field goal favorite, forty eight and a half
to total, so expecting some points because the Bears have
been opportunistic defensively, no questions about it. But they still

(52:53):
have their their spots and they're banged up in the secondary,
so perhaps a little more opportunity for Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
And huge game from Minnesota. I mean their home. This
is a game they have to win to stay involved.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
That's a playoff picture. That's scary that we're already at
that point in the season, Greg, where we're just starting
to really look at the back end and how meaningful
these these games are. Yeah, one at a time, and
we certainly have a couple more big ones to talk
about here. Two more on on my board that stand
out above others, and we'll do one of those as

(53:27):
we continue. We've got Kansas City and Denver. The way
Denver's being talked about, you think they were two and eight.
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(54:11):
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(54:32):
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where you find me at Greg co Cell in the twitters.
Greg AFC West battle tenver Broncos rolling up to seven
straight wins. Bo Nicks has only taken ten sacks. He's

(54:53):
completing sixty one percent eighteen and eight the touchdown interception ratio.
Adding some effort on the ground. Troy Franklin's become his
guy the last couple of weeks, touchdowns three of his
last four games. They lose JK. Dobbins presumably for the year,
some more RJ. Harvey out of the backfield, but you
would think they were on the down side of say

(55:16):
five or six or all seven of those last decisions.
With the conversation surrounding Bo Nicks this.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Week, Yeah, well, Knicks, has he struggled a bit this year.
He's been very, very uneven. There's been times he's looked good.
There's other times he hasn't looked very good at all.
And he's been for a guy who's in his second
year and has played a lot of football, is in
a Sean Payton offense, there are times he just looks

(55:43):
a little for netic and chaotic in the way in
which he's playing, and that's kind of surprising to me.
But you know, the way I would describe it is,
I think when the picture gets a little cloudy, he
gets hesitant. He's had too many and I hate to
use this word, but I can't think of another one
right now. He's had too many panic responses to pressure,

(56:05):
and sometimes it seems like he's perceiving pressure that isn't
really there, so he kind of breaks down and then
misses some pretty routine throws. So he just has been
very uneven in the way he's played this year. And obviously,
with Dobbins now out, it seems for the season r J.
Harvey will become the feature back, but the one thing,

(56:27):
as you said about Nick, he doesn't get sacked very much,
but he hasn't been I would say his development hasn't
continued the way we probably would have expected off his
rookie season.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Certainly projecting forward when you look at Sean Payton as
the go to guru for him. There, we watched the
defense rise up, leading the NFL with forty six sacks.
They've got their test today trying to hold down the
Kansas City Chiefs coming out of their bye week. We
know Andy Reid and the brilliance historically Mahomes completing about
sixty five percent of his throws seventeen five touchdown to

(57:00):
interception ratio overall, had that rough outing last time out
against the Bills defense. Some I'm wondering if that was,
you know, the Bill's Super Bowl and all of those
kind of hyperbolic things that we're on it. But Rashie
Rice in three games twenty catches two, fifteen and three,
changing the element of how they operate the offense. How

(57:22):
do they slow down the aggressive front?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Yeah, this is this to me is kind of where
the rubber meets the road in this matchup. One of
the things you see with the Chiefs offense is Mahomes
has been quick to get rid of the ball playing
the ball's coming out very quick. He's playing with in structure,
within timing well obviously always has the ability to make
those special plays outside of structure. He's as good as
there we've ever seen doing that with his spatial awareness

(57:48):
and his great vision on the move. But he's been
getting the ball out quick. And this is a difficult
defense to play against because they can beat you in
so many different ways. They can beat you with pressure,
with blitz, they can beat you with just lining up
with five across and doing what we call gap you out,
creating one on one matchups because they have really four

(58:11):
guys that can win one on one matchups and both
edge players Cooper and Benito and Zach Allen and Franklin Myers.
So and one thing about Vance Joseph on the back end,
he does a lot of different things. So sometimes it
looks like man, but it's not really man. Although it
looks like man, you know, he's It's just a very

(58:33):
difficult defense to play against. And again I'm not suggesting
they're going to shut down the Chiefs because we know
what Mahomes has done in his career and how good
he is. But to me, it's just a really intriguing
tactical matchup as.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
We look at it. I've got that the board of
dropped passes, Matt Patrick Mahomes is tied for fifth in
the league with Caleb Williams and cam Ward receivers betraying
him some fourteen times the leader in that category. Just
go back to our one and put a note there.
Trevor Lawrence thirty one drops attributed to his receivers this year.

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Just an unfas.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Yeah, you know, it's funny, that's an interesting stat because
I always like to see you know, I'm being honest.
I like to see those plays. Sure, you know, before
I make that. It's just like they have all these
metrics now for quarterback throws under pressure, Well I need
to see those plays to know what because to me,
pressure could be a totally different thing. Very often a

(59:29):
lot of these metrics are based on the chips in
the players uniforms, and you know, so I have to
see those plays in order to know what that means.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Same with drops, Yeah, certainly a deeper dive. Just trying
to add a little more flavor to it all. Not
all drops created equal of course, correct as well, you
know what my fingertip versus two hands versus hey, he's
wide open, So right, all of those things. As we continue,
we'll get to Philly in Detroit in another big one
after we talked to Dan Bayer at the news desk,

(01:00:00):
because that is to me, the last of the massive
games from both sides. But let's really quick give a
minute to this one. Green Bay back to back loss. Yeah,
only twenty points combined, sixty eight point nine percent overall
for Jordan Love, Caleb Love bringing in point guards from
college basketball path, thirteen touchdowns against three picks. But you've

(01:00:24):
got four games where he's thrown for fewer than two
hundred yards. Really the offense all Josh Jacobs eight of
nine games, hasn't had one hundred yard rushing game yet,
which is surprising. I mean, he's gotten close couple times,
but hasn't eclipsed that. And they get to navigate Jamis
Winston in the post Brian Dable era. So it's a
new world order with Mike Kafka. But for Green Bay

(01:00:47):
right now, sputtering in the heart of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Yeah, offensively, they've been a little bit of enigma to me,
because when I watch their tape, I don't feel like
Jordan Love if I'm just evaluating him as an isolated quarterback.
I don't feel like he's playing poorly. Now. Last week
against the Eagles, he had a couple of poor plays. Certainly,
that fumble late in the first half was something you
cannot do, and certainly in a game like that where

(01:01:13):
that was very close and just it seems like one
play becomes magnified. But I don't think he's played poorly.
Based on a breakdown of his tape, you made a
great point about the run game, you know. I think
we would have expected Josh Jacobs to have one hundred
yards multiple times this year, and their run game hasn't
been quite as good as we've seen it the last
couple of years. And we know that Matt Lafleur really

(01:01:34):
wants his offense to start there. So it's they've been
a little you know, they're kind of an enigma wrapped
in a riddle to me, Mike, I'm just not sure
when I watch their tape what to make of it,
because it's easy right now to say, oh, Jordan Love,
Jordan Love. You know, that's the immediate. You know how
it goes with quarterbacks. Team plays well, that means quarterbacks great.

(01:01:54):
Team doesn't play well, quarterback stinks. That's the way people
automatically respond. But if you watch Love carefully on tape,
he has not played poorly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, that's the Pavlovian experiment to him. Yes, yeah, And
even when teams win again, I give the nod to
my hometown of Chicago. They can win by two touchdowns,
and certainly the criticisms of the quarterback are going to
be loud and well, trying to generate some calls along
the way. Jackson dart out with concussion in this one.
We've talked about the frequent yeah trips to the tent,

(01:02:27):
and they finally add up to where he has to
miss a game, and for us, we get the excitement
that is Jamis Winston. You know what I'm saying Hamilton
stuff earlier this week.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I'm glad to see it. You know what, there's a guy. Look.
I know when he was in Tampa. Obviously he threw
a lot of interceptions. He had that one year where
he threw thirty. But there's something about Jameis Winston the
way he plays that I liked and he's a very
aggressive thrower. Certainly, what he did last year in Cleveland
on a bad team, you almost have to throw that out.
But that year, which I forget what year was, maybe

(01:02:58):
twenty twenty one, is it back that far when he
was the starter for New Orleans and he tore his
acl what in week seven, eight or nine? And he
I think he These are just numbers, but they're reflective
of how he was playing. I think he had fourteen
touchdowns and only three interceptions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Yeah, about sixty of his passes, but yeah, fourteen and three.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
He's never gonna have a high high completion percentage because
he's an aggressive thrower. But he was doing very very
well that year in that offense. And you know, of course,
that's the last time he really had meaningful you know,
when he was the defined starter and in some ways,
I don't look, I don't know every situation he's been in,
but I think he could have been a good NFL

(01:03:42):
quarterback in the right situation. Now, this is probably not
the best situation, just like Cleveland wasn't a year ago.
But we'll see. I mean, the one thing about Jameis
Winston is he will throw the football.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
That's gonna say he's gonna play free and loose. There
is no no question to that. Yeah, and obviously go
back to his college days. Guy had some some missteps
and some problems. It seems like he's rectified a lot
of that. And when he gets in front of a microphone,
we get goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
Well, you know what. I got a chance at won
Super Bowl years ago to talk with him at an event,
and he is great to talk to. I mean, he
loves ball. He's a super smart guy. I mean he's
just he's a fascinating study. He's a really interesting guy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
We'll see what he can do today. Trying to avoid
the pass rush. A bunch of pressures for Green Bay
against Philly, but they never got home against Jalen Hurts.
We'll see if Michael Parsons and company can reach some
habit because otherwise, I mean you got Jamis tried to
play spoiler in the larger NFC playoff picture later Rosh today,
he's great. Go sell on Mike Carbon It's Fox Football Sunday,

(01:04:46):
Fox Sports Radio. Now, let's take a trip. I had
a kickoff to the news desk and stand byer my partner,
the I Watch a Flex Podcast you'll hear him later
on today as part of End Zone Radio. What's on Dan,
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Fellas? The Giants Packers gaming guys talked about Adam Schefter
of ESPN saying that the Giants, some within the organization
have spoken to Jackson dart Of saying they want to
cool it a little bit on the running at least
be careful on when he's outside of the pocket and
scrambling and running for yards. The report saying people both
inside and outside the organization saying so. Jaden Daniels learned

(01:05:20):
that the hard way as well a couple of weeks
ago against the Seahawks. He's obviously inactive going through the
national anthems right now in Spain. Is the Commanders and
Dolphins about to get underway. Chargers of Jaguars playing you
guys talked about it a bit earlier. Quinton Johnston in
for the Chargers, but it's not expected to have to
be a game to have Brian Thomas Junior for the Jaguars.

(01:05:40):
He's expected to miss the contest. Titans home to the
Texans today in an AFC South Showdown. Defensive tackle Jeffrey
Simmons should be back for Tennessee and Drake London's going
to be a go for the Falcons against the Panthers today.
Patriots got that win on Thursday, but they lost defensive
tackle Minton Williams. He was placed on injured reserve. Some
golf already in the folks today from Dubai. Matt Fitzpatrick

(01:06:02):
beat Rory McElroy in the first toll of the DP
World Tour Championship in Dubai. So Fitzpatrick wins the tournament,
but McElroy wins the tour as for the fourth straight
year he's Europe's top player. Winning the race to Dubai guys,
mac to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I feel like I need to go buy donuts or
something for the group to celebrate because it's a championship
Sunday now, yes it is, Yes, it is adding value
at Dan bayer on Fox is where you find him.
You'll hear him throughout the day. Thanks Dan, appreciate that.
Greg Cosel, Mike Harmon with you here. It's the Fox
Football Sunday and the showing Dan Quinn. They were just
doing a fascinating thing of the transformation of the pitch

(01:06:40):
into a football field that had me transfixed a little
more elegant in the way they did that. Greg then
changing up Wrigley Fields dimensions to be a football game
for Northwestern in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Right game too, by the way, a good game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I'm salty that with five turnovers, couldn't salt it away
on that last second field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
But you know, okay, Michigan gotta win.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
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(01:07:25):
let's go to what is to me the last of
the Marquee games. Doesn't mean we won't give a minute
or two to the remaining sally as we go, because
that's about what it'll deserve. But Detroit and Philly. Let's
start with those Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
There's the snap that Jered who wants to throw, looking
throwing middle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Cart the five to their gift to the end zone.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Touchdown, Detroit Lions fourteen yards on the strike off to
get you can't cover that man one on one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
You just can't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Three hundred and twenty passing yards as highest total since
Week two, seventy four percent completion rate on the year,
twenty touchdowns against three picks, and as we love it,
yards per attempt is at eight point two. Jamir Gibbs.
That been judicious. He's only got one game with more
than seventeen carries on the year, Greg, So it looks
like it's setting up for well, like the second half

(01:08:16):
of a year ago where suddenly he becomes the bell
cow and they lean in a little heavier and they'll
need to do it against the Philadelphia Eagles today, coming
off that hard fought win against the Packers, narrow home
favorites of two and a half over under sitting at
forty six and a half. But for Jared Goff, yeah,
Dan Campbell run around with a play sheet.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Now, Yeah, and there was a noticeable difference with Dan
Campbell calling the plays, and the difference I know two
things really stood out to me. One was the increase
in under center play action. Goff was eleven for sixteen
for one hundred and seventy two yards in what I
call conventional play action under center. It was the most
under center play action dropbacks in any game this season,

(01:08:59):
so they went back to that. That's something that was
a clear foundation under Ben Johnson when he was there.
And the other thing that that that bread I guess
was Thatmes James and Williams was more involved as a
receiver in that game than he had been in recent weeks.
So those are two things that stood out to me.
You know, it's funny you played the golf radio call

(01:09:19):
how old is Jared Goff? Because you know, he's put
up pretty good numbers in his career and he's obviously
not near the I wouldn't think he's not near the
end of his career, and he's in a pretty good
situation where you know he's going to continue to put
up numbers. I can't believe he's that old at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
He at this point yep, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
I mean again, you know, he's in a good situation.
You never know what tomorrow brings, but you have to
believe he's playing five six more years. And I'm not again,
I'm not sitting here saying, oh he's a Hall of Famer,
That's not my point. But yeah, he's going to end
up with a pretty darn good career assuming it stays
along this path.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Remember all those years ago with that Jeff Fisher year
high Yes, sixteen, Yeah, and a lot of hand ringing
of what am I watching? I remember again, I guess
San Francisco watching that live. I was Kaepernick on the
other side and just wondering what I just committed five
hours of my day too.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Oh you know. And the other thing that you in
the piece, you played the touchdown to Jamir Gibbs. Now,
Jamir Gibbs can be a really, really dominant receiver, and
there's no question that linebackers. That was Jordan McGee, a
linebacker for Washington trying to cover him. That's not going
to happen. But the thing is is you go back
a couple of weeks now, the Eagles and Vic Fango,

(01:10:34):
they are not the Vikings the way Brian Flora is plays.
So this is not an apples to Apple's comparison. But
in that game two weeks ago, when we talked about
this last week, Brian Flora has blitzed a ton through
the a gap inside and the reason he did that
was to make sure that Gibbs had to stay in
and pass protect. Fifteen of Gof's thirty two dropbacks in

(01:10:56):
that game, Gibbs had to stay in to pass protect. Now,
I'm Vic Fanjo is not exactly that guy obviously, and
normally Vic does not like to blitz at a high percentage.
But I'm just going to be really curious in some
critical situations, you know, long yardage, third down, if Vic Fanjo,
who's one of the smartest guys around, obviously, just tries

(01:11:18):
to create something with his pressure that dictates that Gibbs
has to be part of the protection because he's so
good coming out of the backfield. So I'm very curious
about that in this game.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
All right, let's go to the other side real quick,
on the offensive side, and let's hear from AJ Brown
for a quick second here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
It's not just solely about my situation.

Speaker 7 (01:11:36):
I mean, guys like obviously I want to win too,
you know, and I think if we're we're really focusing
on winning and doing our job like that, we can't
just keep slapping the band aid over the defense doing
their job and getting us out of trouble. At what
point we're going to pick a box slag as an
offense that we're saying we're so great, you know, And
that's where I'm getting it. It's not about we're not

(01:11:58):
winning or I don't care winning all I care about
his step. No, it's been week got the week. Sometimes
we're not contributing, we're not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Doing our job on offense.

Speaker 7 (01:12:08):
So you can't keep slapping a band aid over there
and you strike the win later late in the year
and you think you're gonna go to it in and
the year. It's not gonna Yeah, it's not gonna happen. Well,
last show what it was, Thank you for the ring.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
But it's a new season. There you go. He's got
as many games with fewer than fifteen receiving yards as
he does over forty three. Uh, try to figure out
on tape they say they went rogue on that final call.
Uh taking that shot down field that hit the defender
in the back.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Now, gig.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
But you know, the offense again fits and starts all year.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
It was one of the strangest offensive performances I've seen
against the Packers. And this is what I'm about to
say is not a knock on Jalen Hurts at all,
But it seemed as if the game was being played
to minimize hurts his factor in the game. Now, again,
people are gonna take that as a rip on the
on the play calling, and but it just you have
to think beyond that. Why would they do that? I mean,

(01:13:00):
there was a play on the first third quarter possession,
the game was scoreless, Mike, Okay, it was third and
twelve from the plus twenty five yard line going in. Okay,
third and twelve plus twenty five, scoreless game, they handed
the ball to Shipley. That's a give up call in
a scoring situation. In a scoreless game, why wouldn't you

(01:13:21):
want Hurtz to drop back, not only to throw it potentially,
but you know that how many times has he made
third down scrambles that break the back of a defense.
So I was just surprised, fascinated. I certainly don't have
the answer to why this. They did that, but they
played that game as if they were playing with the

(01:13:42):
rookie quarterback in his first start. And it's just it
was hard to understand watching the tape.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Curious, certainly a big spot here today matchup against Detroit
Philly taking a lot of the oxygen and certainly aj
Brown the comment we played was about as well as
you can put things without questions. That's are great, but
you know, in the end, I want to be involved
and do my part, and as an offense, we're not
getting it done. We've talked a little bit about Saquon

(01:14:08):
Barkley over the course of the year as.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Well, and Mike, that's the bottom line point. I mean, people, look,
I'm in the Philly area, so obviously you're getting a
lot of we hate aj Brown, he's selfish, But the
bottom line point that he's making is that this offense
has not been very good. And the Eagles are a
very odd team right now. Mike. They're seven and two,
they have the best record in the conference, they're Super

(01:14:32):
Bowl champions. Okay, but you could say this year they're
seven and two, but they've not run the ball well
and they've not thrown the ball well. And I think
pretty much anybody who watches tape and studies the Eagles
would say that both those things are true. Yet they're
seven and two.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
It's a very odd thing about the way this game works.
As my petter Jason Smith during the week said, they
bathe in dysfunction. And I'm thinking about making a perfume
line and a line of soaps, Greg called dysfunction for many.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Well, you gotta give Nick Sirianni a ton of cratch.
I mean, it's I mean, it's his record since he's
been the head coach is phenomenal. The team wins, which
is always to getting back to the soap analogy, which
is always the deodorant, as it were, when you win.
But it's been a very strange and look, I studied
Eagles in great detail and their past game is somewhat limited. Again,

(01:15:29):
people can decide why that is. Hurts, of all the
quarterbacks who have started every game, has the fewest pass
attempts on throws between the numbers that travel ten to
twenty eight yards from the line of scrimmage. And he
does not see the middle of the field with clarity.
That's not been his game even when he's at his best.

(01:15:49):
But he's a super Bowl champion. He's been in two
of the last three Super Bowls. You can easily argue
we have played mahomes in both of those games, so
it's a very odd situation.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Well, we'll grab some popcorn for that one. That's the
last of the big games. We got three to do
a quick whip around with. As we continue. He's great.
Co Sell on Mike Carbon and this is Fox Football
Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in final throws
for us here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday by Carbon,
Greg co Sell with you. Miami up three to nothing
on Washington well middle of the first quarter, Washington on

(01:16:23):
the move now at the Dolphins thirty five. We'll keep
you a prize as that rolls on here Fox Sports Radio.
We had three more games left on the slate, Greg,
that we haven't covered in depth. We did a good
job on all the heavy hitters. The podcast will go up. Breann.
I'll have that Thank you, Brianna in advance so you
can check that out at your leisure. But we got

(01:16:46):
Carolina versus Atlanta. Michael Pennix kind of stepped in it
at the podium earlier in the week to say the
least fifty eight percent for the year, nine touchdowns, three picks.
Pretty much everything goes to Drake London or Bejon Robinson.
We've talked about him a lot, only one game with
more than twenty carries on the year. Last time they met,
they lost thirty to nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Yeah, that whole Bjon Robinson thing still has me very
very surprised. I mean, to me, Bjohn Robinson, I've said
this before. I think just in terms of his overall trades,
he's the best back in the league. He's not deployed
that way in Atlanta's offense. To me, if you're trying
to stabilize your offense, that's the starting point. You rarely

(01:17:31):
see teams stabilize an offense by throwing the ball. They
stabilize it by running the ball, and I think that
it needs to go through Bjhon Robinson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
We got Houston, Tennessee. Any notes you want to make
on that one or just you want to walk punt.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
No, No, Houston's defense is a fun watch every week.
They unit in the game very good, yep. I mean
those two edge players are outstanding. I really like there's
an overlooked underrated linebacker in my view name EJ. Speed,
who's been playing really well for them. They have two
really good corners and I think Kaln Bullock is one

(01:18:07):
of the best pure post safeties in the league. And
they play a lot of single high coverage. So their
defense is a fun watch every week.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Davis Mill's certainly taken advantage of Nico Collins last two
weeks twenty six targets for him, So for fantasy purposes,
all I promise you his volume. So we'll get some
more of him and Dalton Schultz a little bit later today,
some more woody marks. Let's go to the last game
on the slate, highly entertaining the first time out, Joe
Flacco against Aaron Rodgers. Rogers had his best game of

(01:18:35):
the year two forty nine and four in that one.
Flacco that was his first game after becoming a Bengal,
and he's certainly taken advantage of it with some big
stat lines. For Pittsburgh, just still so many questions. Third
worst running game in the league and for Rogers six
point one yards per attempt or worse the last three

(01:18:59):
really not being able to take advantage of what dk
Mettcalf once was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
It's just the exactly what you don't want in an offense.
No run game and a condensed pass game, so you
get no big plays and it's very hard to move
the ball in the NFL like that. Although we've seen
a lot of quarterbacks have big games against the Bengals
defense unfortunately, but Flacco, he's been remarkable. I mean, I
feel like Joe Flacco when he's seventy years old, is

(01:19:24):
going to be able to throw the ball like this, Mike,
Don't you think it just looks like it's effortless.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
And I'm still quarterbacking because that means I'll get to
cover it all the way through right, right right, and
I'll keep feeling young because we got a seventy year
old out there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
But the Steelers' defense has picked it up the last
couple of weeks. They played better. The edge players Watt
and Highsmith are really difficult to deal with. Some of
their interior guys Benton has started to play better. Their
defense has started to play the way we expected them
to play right from the beginning of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Be curious to see what Cincinnati they've gotten. Chase Brown
on track three straight hunters, Yeah, totally yard games, Jamar
Chase fifty targets from Joe Flacco the last three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
Joe's gonna throw it. Now, Joe's gonna throw it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
That's it. Ice up. Yeah, I want a cast of
that arm from my wall side. He's great. Co Sell,
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