Mike Harmon & Jared Smith talk NCAA Tournament, NBA Steph & LeBron Have RISEN, Jo Adell, & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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if you will sit a spell as we get you
ready for a big Easter Sunday.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're in the middle of Passover. However you celebrate, if
you celebrate, if it's just the Hey, we got up
and we got another shot to go one and oh today,
we appreciate you giving us a few minutes from your
time as part of the extended family here Fox Sports Radio.
Blessed to be with you once again. I'm Mike Carbon
alongside me Jared Smith in the big chair today live
from Las Vegas. We've had an opportunity to do a

(00:32):
couple of runs here on the network as Jared's filled
in from my guy Jason Smith in the seven to
eleven window Monday through Friday. Jared, it's a blessed day.
I know you're gonna get some miles in early before
it became one hundred and thirty seven degrees and before
the full Sporting slate took over.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
What's going on, buddy, Happy eas to everyone, Happy passover.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
I did get my miles in this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I got a ten kN sixty nine minutes flat, and
it's actually nice. It's a nice day. I was thinking
about running outside. But yeah, I actually like people think
I'm crazy. I don't mind running on the treadmill because
I get I know exactly what my time is and
it's not like crazy hills and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
But it was a tough It was a long road
this morning. It was tough.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Some days it's tougher than other of course, right we
got to try to find our motivations for whatever we're
doing work. Family is not always easy. Extended family, your
friends may be driving your nuts, whatever the case is.
Hopefully for the next two hours we can find a
little piece levity for you. We got some great stories,
some rebirths, cautionary tale using the term resurrection. But the

(01:40):
NBA has got a couple of stars that are front
and center. Later on today, we've got the Joe Adell
hat trick, which is just odd. Between that and there
was another statistical anomaly that occurred in Major League Baseball yesterday,
we'll get into that some of the abs early returns again,
with Jared being in Las veg I guess maybe we

(02:01):
go a little deeper in the numbers and what it's
starting to mean for game to game processing. But we'd
be remiss if we didn't start off as the NCAA
Men's Final is set after what was a thumping right,
we got a close game early? Was it pretty?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
But as long as it's close ish late, sign me up,
because well we know how easily it can go the
other way, Jared. But the nightcap, the Michigan Wolverines just
came out and absolutely stomped our beloved companion Arnie Spaniards
Arizona Wildcats to where that game was. To say not

(02:41):
pretty would be me being kind and showing, you know,
the pat on the back, good job, good effort, you know,
like that kid in Miami all those years ago as
people were going up the tunnel. But that's kind of
what we got as they win in a massive fashion,
ninety one seventy three, another beatdown. We're watching them score

(03:01):
ninety points in game, even though you're missing one of
your stars. He wanted to play despite the injury, going nope, nope, nope,
I'm not listening to the trainer, I'm not listening to mom.
I'm getting back out on the court because this is
what I do. And you know it's the old mantra.
You know, you got to keep getting after it even
if you're not one hundred percent. Was it necessarily the

(03:23):
smartest thing for Lindenbourg to get out there? Yeah, maybe not,
but fourteen minutes he didn't have to do a whole
lot as Michigan cruises.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, I guess we'll start with Yukon at one point
in the game. So if you go back to the
last ten minutes of the Elite Eight and the first
twenty six minutes of the Final four, they did not
commit a turnover, So essentially about thirty six and a
half minutes of game time, high leverage game time, second
half against the first half, tight nerves against Illinois, and

(03:55):
then you know, for the first six minutes or so
of the second half did not commit a turnover.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Basically a full game.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Incredible, And we talked about this on Saturday Morning Show.
We said it felt very team of destiny vibes. Where
Illinois's roster was better, and I think their players at
their peak are better, but that doesn't mean you're gonna
get peak output when when you know, tight sphincter's kind
of set in there in in those in those difficult,

(04:22):
high leverage environments, whereas Yukon rose to the moment and
I didn't think Yukon played this elite game. They just
didn't beat themselves right, right, Like they just didn't turn
it over. They made their open shots and they forced
turnovers on the other end, and Illinois didn't make their
open shots. And that really is what the game boiled
down to. The nightcap was a very different game Michigan.

(04:46):
Both teams were goliaths in my opinion, but Arizona brought
a brought a knife to a gun fight last night.
Like it just they just didn't have their level right.
And we've seen that level take place throughout the court
of the tournament against Arkansas. We saw it in second
half against Purdue. But remember that first half against Purdue

(05:06):
where they were kind of going through the motions. And
what I said on all my podcasts and show appearances
this week, I said, if if Arizona doesn't play a
full forty, that's where I see Michigan being better, a
little bit more consistent.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I think they're better coached.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Tommy Lloyd brought or excuse me, Dusty May brought out
the basketball who to the Big House this week to
prepare his team for playing in the weird, cavernous environments
of the football stam video.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Right, that was also talking points both for the men's
side and certainly for the women's side of shooting, backdrop
schedules and everything else. But that little vignette, coupled with
Dusty May sitting out and watching yeah first game for
the first half, just signaled something much different.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, he's been to a Final four before, yeah, right now.
This is his.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Second time in the Final four in the last three
years with two different programs. So this is a coach.
I think that the two best coaches in the Final four.
I did a ranking of my final my top final
four coaches last week, and I didn't put Hurley one,
and maybe that's that's on me.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
I put Dusty May one. Hurley too, and.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I said the backdrop of the Mount rushmore.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, and I really And the reason is is because
I you know, maybe Hurley rubs me at times the
wrong way.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
But that's not the take away from his coaching ability.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
I think those guys are one A, one B and
there's a clear gap between them and Underwood and Lloyd.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
And not to take anything away from Underwood.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And Lloyd, but Hurley and May have been there before.
And I think when you're on that stage, it's different,
and how you prepare your team is different, and I
thought that played into Michigan showing up and Arizona kind
of falling flat.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, just a very very different style and approach. But
for Dusty may riding the resume. Next hour will get
deeper into the Danny Hurley part of the conversation because
we're talking rarefied airon. I think you laid it out
perfectly there that you can't grab with a hug if
you're just a general fan. Right. I don't know that

(07:05):
he'd let you either, but it's just that idea of
you're either lean into it right, here's full villainy and
here's what I am or not. And I don't know
if there's something in the water there and stores. Plus
you know down in in at LSU with the coaching
UH trio that they've acquired it. I mean, it is

(07:25):
very interesting, you know, these personalities, uh and how much
bigger they are because we've been talking coaching a lot
during this tournament, some of the the poignant, quiet moments,
but certainly on display the fiery to a fault at times.
Hy Geno Oriama and Danny don't.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
We got Yeah, we we got two hours.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Are you a fan?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Because I like Hurley as like a man like coach,
Like I feel like he's very mat he has these
very strong masculine qualities.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I'd want my son to play for him.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But sometimes I think it's two extreme, like we go
like a step too far. But that doesn't mean I
don't think he's a good coach, and I don't think
he's an elite coach and an elite mind. But sometimes
I feel like it's like too fiery, like I'd want
a little more poise. Sometimes that'd be my only complaint.
How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
And I think that's just very much it. Right, There's
something to be said for sometimes you need to be loud.
Sometimes you need to just snap people back into space.
And that goes for anybody in any workspace, but certainly
in the coaching environment. You can't stay at that level
all the time. Yeah, right, Which is he rides the lightning,
there no question about it, and it burns hot. Whether

(08:39):
at some point that you just stop hearing the message. Well,
to this point, he's not right, as you said. Third
final appearance a couple of titles going for the third
and this separates him if they're able to pull this off. Yeah,
Rann be a big upset. But second, and you know,
we start talking about those larger coaching history conversations. But yeah,

(09:01):
I mean, I certainly look at it from from my
very limited athletic run before I blew up my legs,
and that was kind of the end of it. Very
early was I had coaches that were the all right,
here's how we got to talk to you guys, to
get you in your best frame of mind to go play.
And then I had the guy that would drag my

(09:22):
face mask over and slam my helmet into the guy
next to me if he didn't whipping me in the
helmet with a whistle or whatever else like we I had.
I ran the spectrum and clearly.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The what did you respond to better because I didn't
respond to the angry part early late. Now, if I
was coached like that today, i'd respond very differently to it.
But when I was younger, I was a little softer.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well, but that's it, right, When you're younger, it's like
these people have been entrusted, you know, implicitly, and maybe
you know your parents, your guardian people aren't fully aware
of the mes things to the madness because the only
time they see these guys are at the the team
dinners or when they're handing out the jerseys and you're

(10:08):
signing this over whatever, so everybody's all happy, go lucky.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
And back then, I like for a lot of things,
for well, for better, for worse. Let's just leave it
at that. Folks just kind of went about their business,
and you went and said, well, I don't want to
go to practice necessarily because this is what I'm going into.
But it's not like you were complaining to mom and
dad and begging off and whatever else, right, so uh,

(10:34):
and then each dealt with it as you could. I
I was fortunate I grew early. Unfortunately that meant as
soon as I got to high school, everybody surpassed me.
And I'm that leprechaun like character that I play on
radio and television as I waved to the camera in
my short stature, I should just have one of those
little green bowler hats like Warwick Davis, and then we

(10:54):
go from there. But it's the the idea of I think,
you know, in our workplaces, you know we're taught about,
you know, the softer skills whatever. But every once in
a while you need to snap people back into line,
like like your kids. Right, I've got two daughters. They
respond very differently to some of those conversations. Sometimes it's
almost the you know, Rod Tidwell's laying on the ground

(11:18):
and I got to snap a lot of it with
the clap over the head, going hey come on, and
they respond, you know, differently to those things, right, loud noises, excited,
utterance is yelling very different and that goes and I
think for most people it's the same way. And when
you're leading people, you're trying to individualize it as best

(11:39):
you can. But if the group that you're leading is
I don't know, fifty three people or this case, you know,
fifteen plus on you on your bench, plus your assistance
plus whatever else, you know, you've got to have one
consistent message and people are gonna come to it or
they're not.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Yeah, I think he's I think he understands. I think
being a coach is more about being a leader of
men than being a tactician at times. I think the
especially in the current era that we live in where
the staff matters so much, the staff has to be
elite tacticianers and you have to have elite minds around you.

(12:16):
And that's not to say that the coach didn't rise
to that level by being a great tacticianer and being someone.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Who knows the game and knows the x's and o's.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
But I do think that being a head coach, especially
at the collegiate level in the recruiting era, you have
to be more of a fundraiser and a baby kisser
than you do a tacticianer. And I think he really
understands the culture of what Yukon basketball is and I
think it comes from Calhoun, right, and that's kind of
where this dynasty kind of started. And now he's kind

(12:45):
of taken the torch and run with it, and I
think he gets the culture very much.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
So I think it fits Yukon.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I don't know if his style would fit everywhere, but
it fits Yukon, and he's gotten the most out of
let's be honest, the team that was not preseason ironically enough,
they were actually the high of the final four teams.
They were actually the highest ranked team in the preseason
eightp pole. I did that research before the Final four.
That actually surprised me. It actually is interesting sometimes how
we forget how highly touted and coveted. Some of the

(13:14):
preseason teams are that make it to the final four.
And you know, Michigan and Illinois has had these great runs,
but they were outside the top five to start the preseason.
Same with Arizona. I think Arizona was the lowest. I
think they were twelve at thirteenth or fourteenth. So Yukon
did have the pedigree coming into the season. We obviously
know they've won two out of the last three national championships,

(13:35):
and their season kind of went up and down a
little bit, but now it crystallizes, and you know, climax
is on Monday night.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Which they're a big dog.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
They opened a seven and a half point dog, down
to six and a half now at BETMGM. I took
some seven and a half last night. I thought it
was a little too heavy. I think I thought it
was gonna come down a little bit, and it did.
And I wouldn't be betting against Yukon. I just I
know Michigan's looked great, but man, it just it feels
like kind of hungry, hungry Husky's vibe, right, like they're
just kind of not to be denied. And that thought

(14:06):
the same Michigan isn't gonna win, but I think this
is gonna be a battle on Monday Night.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I really do.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah. I think with Yukon what we've seen through this
season in particular, and you go back to the preseason
rankings of there were a lot of unknowns, right for
these other squads. It was if this happens, and this happens,
and check these boxes, right guy, Because we talk about
how much players move around you and I talked about

(14:31):
it the other night when you were with me and
Jason Smith. Right, we had that grid of the elite
or I should say the Sweet sixteen teams that you
were literally one team Michigan State, where their five starters
are their guys. Everybody else was an amalgam of something.
We had four or five teams that either had four
or three, and then you had some that were just

(14:52):
all right. We grabbed these five guys together and said
let's go. So on paper, it could be, Hey, these
guys are all great and it should stack up. Well.
You trust the coach to a degree, but you have
no idea. With Danny Hurley, you know the effort you're
gonna get, And I think that's what translates again going
into Monday night, Right, they could have packed it in
against Duke. Right, that game was done until it wasn't.

(15:17):
And so when you've got that resolve and you've got
the pedigree, and you've got guys in the program that
have been through these moments multiple times, you never feel
like you're out of it. And if you're gonna play,
you know within yourselves. Talk about the turnover free basketball,
and that was a pretty clean game against Illinois all told,
and Illinois had eight turnovers for the game. Problem is

(15:39):
they only had three assists, so you're not moving the
ball well. Not finding an open man goes to defensive
pressure slash integrity as it were, and just a bad
night shooting for the ALIGNI.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
There was a lid on the basket for them. They could.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
They looked like they were a little overwhelmed by the moment.
They they really did. And that's not to say that
they're you know, they're not well coached and they're not
a talented team. But I do think that we forget
sometimes that you're dealing with twenty year olds, and.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's just it doesn't always relate.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
When you're coaching it and you're playing and you're watching
what they're doing, and then all of a sudden, the
stakes get higher and their level of play drops, and.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
You're like, what's going on.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
You're not playing like the team that I expected you
to well, because they're nervous, they're they're a little bit tentative,
and they're also playing a team that is the opposite
of overwhelmed by the moment. So it's I think those
two factors really were key in Yukon controlling the tempo
of the game well.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Because the other part of it is again go back
to your Mount Rushmore of coaches and go through Underwood
and look, I'm a Northwestern grad. So generally it's say,
you know, Chicago's Big Ten team, my Northwestern Wildcats in
that battle with the folks down in Urbana. You know,
I celebrate the Big Ten as a whole, but generally
Illinois that someone's got to be last. But for Underwood,

(16:58):
it's been fun watching his prime through the year some
of what he said and you coaching, but a big
part of the backstory coming into the Final four was
his long road to get to this point, which is fantastic. Yeah,
but it also means that you're still in that Wow,
I can't believe I'm on this stage. And I think

(17:19):
that translated to the entirety of the Illinois experience in
yesterday's game.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, it really did. I think it sets up a
really fun matchup on Monday Night. I think it. I
don't think Illinois would have been game to beat Michigan.
I really don't. I think the.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Only team that can be Michigan has looked inevitable. Like
if you go back and you and you examined Michigan's
early season and you look at.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
What they did.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
They absolutely obliterated several teams in Vegas back in November,
Auburn by thirty, again, Zaga by forty.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
I mean, these are good.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
These are toorney, you know, attorney teams often just missed Attorney, Like,
these are good basketball teams that they just housed. And
then you get into the guts of Big Ten play
and they for the most part dominated the Big Ten.
They lost a tough game against Wisconsin when Wisconsin shot
gajillion threes fifteen mad threes. They shot almost fifty percent

(18:14):
from three. Besides that, they won every Big Ten game.
They lost the tough game, the high leverage game to
Duke in DC in February, and I think what that
did is is it pushed people off the scent where
people didn't realize that Michigan was really a dominant team
that just had a bad shooting night and Duke did
a really good job of holding them down. Michigan went
six of twenty five from three in that game. It

(18:34):
was one of the worst games of the year from three,
and I think people kind of forgot how dominant Michigan
was in November, and then they lost to Purdue by
a pretty wide margin.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
In the championship game of the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
And I think that again, they played two high leverage
games the last three weeks of the year against Duke
and against Perdue in the Big Ten title and they
lost both of them, and I think people forgot how
good Michigan was. And then they had a chance to
rest up for a few days after.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
The gauntlet of the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
And you've seen it ninety plus in all five turning games.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, size matters. We watched their bigs get after it.
We'll do more on the game as we roll on.
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Smith Vetts is where you find him, find me over
at Swollen Dome. And today a resurrection slash rebirth a
little bit as we will, because we got two long
time NBA veterans bet are front and center today. Jared one.
Steph Curry returns to the court after missing well seemingly

(21:09):
months at a time. His last game was the thirtieth
of January in a loss to Detroit. Look, the season
is done, there's no reason really to push it at
this point. But guy who wants to get back on.
We've got that whole Yiannis thing swirling in the background,
load management, the sixty five games, all of those things swirling.

(21:30):
But the fact that Steph Curry is rolling him back
out onto the court to finish off this campaign. You know, one,
thank you for actually wanting to play some basketball. But
we look at the overall ranking. I mean, they're sitting
in that ten seed right now at a robust thirty
six and forty one, but they are going to be

(21:53):
part of the play ins. So still some meaningful basketball
to a point to be played here for Curry and
the Warriors. So good to get him back on a
big Sunday affair.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
So let me get this straight.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
There are people out there, and I don't follow the
NBA as closely with the in the weeds, you know,
drama te behind the scenes as as maybe some others do.
I mean, obviously I'm aware of the big stories that
take place, and I knew he was coming back, But
there are people out there in the community, the NBA
communities that feel he shouldn't come back because the season

(22:26):
is lost.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Is that well, that that's the thing right where you're
at and your injury continue him and what the the
long path is and injuries at this point, are you
a contender? You're riding out the string whatever. I mean,
You're in the playoffs comfortably right because Memphis in.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
The game from what it looks like.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Right, where are you on this on this debate? Do
you think he should just pack it in?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
No, I'm always the if you're feeling that you can
play and you know the the old lottery picks, be
darned family, right.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
On the play to win the game.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Edwards, there you are nicely done.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
That is the only and and that's where I was
going with my line.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yes, thank you very much Chris Purfett, our trusted audio guru,
dropping that one, because that is the only thing that
matters in sports. Sometimes we lose the plot in sports
analytics and narratives and clickbait and rage bait, we lose
the plot in sports.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
It's to play and win the game. That is the plot.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
That is why you stand back in your garage or
in your backyard and you, you know, take all those
practice shots and you work on your your your stroke,
and you work on your form for hours as a kid.
Not so when you're healthy to sit on the bench
and watch you play to win the game. And I
know there is business involved, I understand that, but at

(23:53):
our core as human beings, we want to watch people
play at the highest level. That is why we buy
tickets and watch. So like anyone out there who's like, Eh,
Curry should just pack it in and there's nothing to
play for, get lost. That is an insane narrative to me.
You play to win the game, period, end of story.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, I mean we had the same kind concerned slash
conversation what is it six weeks ago or thereabouts, wondering
about whether Jason Tatum was going to come back and play,
and here he is, missus games here and there. But
overall they're looking at it as Wow, we got our

(24:29):
guy back for the second half of the season, i e.
When it counts the playoffs. And now Boston's one of
those few teams that you mentioned in the little Hey,
they can be champions bubble because the rest of the
league is doing everything they can to amass lottery tickets,

(24:50):
ping pong balls. Well, it's just a stupid thing. They're
in the NBA, and we watch how improbable incredible it is. Hey,
it grows, goes Chicago, Lebron James goes to Cleveland Cooper
Flag right after what some have argued is going to
prove to be the worst trade in NBA history one

(25:11):
point eight percent. There he is in Dallas, but all
of that to say the guy that you know stirred
the drink there, Luka dancts now injured. We can talk
about the debates of you know, appealing to be considered
for all NBA purposes. I've long said this in my
stance stands strong, just like when Bill Nyi and Harry

(25:35):
Potter says your ministry remains strong. That's what I'm saying.
This is stay of the course here, Jared. When it
comes back to the idea of at no point should
an award people are voting on decide whether you make
another fifty million dollars, that's just the most asinine thing
in the world to me. But either way, that's the

(25:55):
battle MVP considerations and all nbas. For Luca, He's wins
the scoring title because he's played in at least fifty
eight games.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
So you know, why is the scoring title different than
the other threshold?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Has it bothered Swoop?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. I think the pushback.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I understand why there's a minimum for certain awards and
things like that, but I think that there should be
some kind of addendum or amendment for minutes played because
I do think minutes also matter. I don't think they
should be like binary. I think we should maybe have
if a guy can't qualify for the games, if he
can qualify for the minutes, and he started like ninety

(26:37):
five percent or something of the games available with certain
aount minutes. Like again, I'm not a math or science
guy when it comes to this kind of stuff, but
I think there's a way to kind of make exceptions
for players like Lebron or Luca that just play, you know,
an insane amount of minutes, but maybe get hurt or
miss games for other circumstances like legitimately hurt. I just

(26:58):
I think the sixty five games, I do think we're
going to get some reform on that at some point.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, and it'll be curious to see how that gets administrated,
and certainly when we talk about MVP odds, and we
can do a little more on that as we go.
We had a great showdown between Jokich and Wemby yesterday.
I mean Wemby kind of as brilliant as he's been
in his twenty nine thirty minutes a game. The fact
that he sat out the second night of a back
to back against you know, a good team the other

(27:23):
day really kind of rubbed me the wrong way. You know,
we're talking about elder statesman's and load management whatever else. Like, No, no,
you're perfectly fine to go and shellac the Bulls. But
you play a Clippers team, which we can argue about
how good, bad or ugly they are on a night
to night basis, but at least in theory, a team

(27:44):
that's much better than the drek you've been playing. You
take that one off and your team still goes and
wins handling, So there's something to be said that. But
the other guy that's got to rise up now is
Lebron James because he's got nobody else left with him, right.
Lucas hurt, Austin Reeves after a ad MRI that they
had to redo, is now going to miss extended time.
Currently in the third seed, can drop all the way

(28:07):
to what fifth, maybe even well, no fifth, because I
don't think there's enough games from Minnesota to catch them necessarily.
But I mean, this is pretty crazy here down the
stretch talking about how contested it all is. But forty
eight hours from hell for the Los Angeles Lakers, between
the Luca pull up and hamstring injury and then losing

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Austin Reeves shortly thereafter.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, that okay s game was was rough, But I
do think it is kind of the okay See Invitational
in the West this year. I mean, it's just it's
gonna be tough to beat them in a seven game series.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Guys, Well, it was fun because it was cute, right,
because they're just going about their business and playing. And
we talked a little bit of MVP talk when you
and I got together earlier in the week and SGA
going I just let my game play, And we've been
talking a lot about Luca and his six hundred points
in March and all of these other things, and the
Lakers and their run and the Thunder essentially just said

(29:04):
hold my beer.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
And they play him again in a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I just think it's gonna be a tough sled,
a tough a tough ask for any team to win
four out of seven.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
So Lebron, what is he twenty five and I have
for twenty six today for his points?

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Let's take a look. I didn't look at the points
prop today, but.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
They aren't playing Dallas, so it's a I mean, we
at least get to see Cooper flag against Lebron. That's true.
Lebron basically asked to become Lebron of ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Maybe also in these situations, and I've been watching Lebron
a very long time, he also can become a distributor
at times in these moments.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
So nobody to distribute to.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I know, But what do you think, like if you're
playing like and this is this is this goes back
to last night?

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Right, and.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
I thought Dusty May is a really good coach. And
Arizona's numbers all said they are very hesitant to shoot three.
They're a team that likes to pack it inside and
don't like to shoot a lot of threes. That's what
they're That's what their numbers say. So what a Dusty
May do? He packed it inside the paint and he
made Arizona shoot threes and they didn't shoot threes. So
Jason Kid's a pretty good coach, right, we think we

(30:11):
think he's a pretty good coach. I think we can
all reasonable. Mine's gonna agree that he's pretty sharp. You
know that Lebron's the only guy, So what do you think.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
You're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
You're gonna force the ball out of his hands? Like
I mean, like I'm not and I'm not a basketball coach.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
So that's what I would do, and so and then
that particular case, the points problem might not be your
best wager.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Today.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Lakers opened at six and a half uh the favorite
currently at minus one and a half. As we rolled through,
we had a couple of really fun things coming out
of Major League Baseball. You gotta hear the audio because
the incredulity really takes the cake. But first, let's kick
it over to the news desk, fully armed with a
team to support him in any verbal attack I may

(30:57):
launch on him. It's our guy, Isaac Loewany Island, Hello.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
Mike and Jared, and our matchups set in the National
Championship game is on Saturday night. Michigan beat Arizona ninety
one seventy three. Before that, Yukon topped Illinois seventy one
sixty two, So it'll be Michigan against Yukon for the
title tomorrow night. Yukon head coach Danny Hurley said a
short time ago, guys, that Husky's junior guards Solo Ball

(31:22):
sprain his left foot in the win over Illinois and
will not practice today. Ball is currently in a walking boot.
He's Yukon's third leading scorer on the season at thirteen points.
A game coming up at three point thirty Eastern time,
it'll be the women's National Championship game between South Carolina
and UCLA Baseball. Saturday night, Joe Adell of the Angels

(31:43):
robbed the Seattle Mariners of three separate home runs at
a one nothing victory, and he saved the best for last.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
JP Crawford into the corner.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
And there's no right shoot down.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's having the night of his life.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Who went into the crowd and just run? It's third
hold Rome.

Speaker 8 (32:10):
Los Angeles Dodgers star Mookie Bets meanwhile diagnosed with the
right oblique strain and will be placed on the ten
day injured list. Their game at Washington today has been
delayed due to weather. Finally, Mike and Jared in the
National Hockey League on Saturday night, Jared's Los Vegas Golden
Knights won at Edmonton five to one, but the game
was more memorable for what was going on off the

(32:32):
ice at Rogers' Place in Edmonton, as detailed on Hockey
Night in Canada Breaking News.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
We have word that someone has gone into labor here tonight.
There's a baby being born on the seventh floor at
Rogers Place as we speak, So someone's going to have
a great story to tell. It would be nice to
have the mother join us in after hours to describe
what's happened, but that.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Could be asking a bit much.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yeah, you think those are all the details we have
as of now, but some people do anything to avoid
those ticketmaster fees.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Back to you, guys, I have two questions. First about
the hockey Why would you go to a hockey game
if you're that close to giving birth. That seems like
a very odd decision. Second, with the baseball home run,
I saw him go into the stands. I was under
the impression that if you catch a ball and go
into the stands, it's a home run because the ball's
in the stands.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Am I wrong on that rule?

Speaker 8 (33:27):
No, that that's actually a good point that's been discussed
on social media today. So apparently the rule is if
you first make contact with the ball while part of
your body is in the field of play, it's an out.
But you can't jump over the fence completely and catch
the ball thereage Oh yeah, unless on stilts, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I know. I mean you can do that. You can
look at them.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Sought the ball while still feet on the ground and
then tumbled into the stands, and that's why I was
an out. Yeah, that's how I'm interpreting.

Speaker 8 (33:56):
My understanding is as long as your whole body is
not over the defence in the stands when you catch
the ball, it can be considered.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
An interesting part of the field to play.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I wasn't on Seattle money line or anything on them
to win the aos.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
That's why I was curious psychologically that one will stay
with you until the final days.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
What a weird story in Edmonton. Good stuff?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Oh that I mean, that's great though, But I mean, look,
we all know things can escalate quickly. I had a
daughter that decided to come into the world almost what
six weeks early.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
They're hardcore about their hockey up there in Canada.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I guess you could have felt great and then got
it and that's it, I'll tell you. And maybe you
sho didn't like the cut of someone's jib in that
section and got got her Dan Dan Drup, I don't know.
Thanks alough at Isaac Lowan Crown check out everything He's
got going to Angel City, uh, and the love fest
of Mike McDaniel and Jim Harbaugh. As we continue, it's

(34:51):
Jared Smith at Jared Smith Bets and me Mike Harman
at Swollen Dome. We'll stay with that Major League Baseball
story because there were two statistical just a non is
Adele's game, can we argue it's the greatest thing we've
ever seen. The other is someone stole a base It's
been a minute since he's done that, which means we
can all do something great today. Let's get after it.

(35:12):
Next on Fox.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
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Speaker 2 (35:18):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday. Almost
said that other show that I do, Yeah, that's the
Jason Smith Show with me Mike Carmon during the week
seven to eleven Pacific. But here we're just getting you
going on a big Sunday out and about to Grandma's house,
as the promo says, or just kind of hunkering down
with a big date of baseball basketball. We've got some

(35:42):
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I Mean, there's so much going on, but if you
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Rich Hornberger on Saturdays with me in doing more work
here on the networking with me this morning. Blessed to

(36:25):
have him in as we roll into a big sports Sunday,
and you know we played it with with Ilo. He
played the hat third of the hat trick from Joe Adell,
a guy who seems like he should be about forty
five years old, because you know, when you collect trading cards,
prospect cards come up really fast. He is only twenty six,

(36:46):
but he's seemingly been in and around the major league
world for quite a while. Here Jared and making noise
with his bat last year at thirty seven home run
ninety eight RBI. But yesterday and we've got a little
montage here that I that I like to play before
we jump into this bigger of Joe Adele yesterday on display,

(37:07):
not one, not two, but three times the charm.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
No balls at one swife. There's a drive out to
light from Raleigh. Hodel's back near the wall. He leaps
so down he has a track to right. Adele is back,
he's at the wall. He leaps up.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
He got another one.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Flood to night.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Believe there's claw from the fly bat.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Away, tore the carter.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's joe ah Deell again near the floppit three.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Touch it again.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
He fell into the crowd, so it's a home run.
They called him out.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
He did it.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Again, so you know, rough day for the announcers trying
to go through it. The first one right, because he
sold it like he absolutely no sold like if someone
put their finishing move on with a WWE match and
then held up the ball and threw it back into
the fields.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
Oh no, he caught it. It was you know, it's
above the league. Remember the scene in Major League. There
you go, and he put the ball through like that
cardboard thing thing out.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Nicely done, Ye had Danny Danny Roe or I'm sorry
it was Isaac who hit one through the net in
Ted Lasso as well, those kind of things where you
got to do that review. So a bit of fooling folks.
But like I was thinking about it last night as
this was going on, and he's taken over the timeline
a little bit opposite the NCAA tournaments. Like we see

(38:37):
a lot of cool things in sports, right, and Major
League Baseball is is rich in its history and numbers.
But I've seen perfect games. I've seen dominant pitching performances, right,
Carrie Wood in his twenty strikeouts, Elcintara say, and I
pitched in front of nobody, but thank you to the
fans when he dominated the White Sox, you know, in

(38:58):
the opening weekend and all of that stuff. But I
look at this and it's it's incredible to me because
we're seeing a guy might rob two home runs in
a year. This guy had the day of days, seeing
the ball well, tracking it well, and the old you know,
stick to it kind of notion of I just don't

(39:20):
assume it's it's out of reach, which is a good
lesson in life.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
So I'll tell a brief story.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
So when I graduated at Penn State in two thousand
and eight, my first job out of college, I moved
to Atlantic City and I got an internship at one
of the radio stations down in Atlantic City, and I
met down there the play by play announcer of the
Atlantic City Surf played in the canam League, and that
was my first gig out of college really where I

(39:47):
was paid to help him call Atlantic City Surf games.
And then I went on to call games for the
Trent and Thunder after that. You know, double a affility
to the Yankees. So I worked in minor league baseball
for the first two years basically after college, and I
learned very quickly that every day you go to the ballpark,
you see something you've never seen before. And that's that's
really the only way that I can explain baseball on
a daily basis. When you watch it every single day,

(40:08):
you will see something every single day that you have
never seen before. And that was what we saw last
night with Jodell Well.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
We also saw gian Carlos Stanton steal a base, something
he has not done.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
And he looks very sprightly.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Well, eventually you realize carrying the extra weight is probably
uh maybe robbing you of what could have been a
Hall of Fame run.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Maybe your fitness and health matters.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
People, Well you know what what but yeah, see there
it goes. He got preachy on me, telling me I
needed to do his ten miles. Ah, He's Jared Smith,
help by Carvin Abs System and more Major League Baseball
next here on Fox.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Green Eggs and
welcome in hour two of the program.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
As we roll on here a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday,
Happy Easter pass over to those who commemorate, cell lebrate
everybody else, whatever you've got going on in your lives,
We're glad you're with us for a few minutes here
this morning early afternoon. Go out and make it, make
it a masterpiece, as it were, Go one and know today.

(41:10):
That's the mantra. As we roll on at Swalling Home,
where you find me at Jared Smith Bets. Where you
find my partner today, Jared Smith, as he gets ready
for a full day of sporting action and he's already
gotten his big workout in so now he can gluttonize
like the rest of us.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Rot as they say, there's nothing real.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Usually what I do.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Listen, I'm all about balance.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
I'll run six miles and then I'll sit around all
day and watch sports for twelve hours.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Balance.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Look, we're always looking to achieve balance, As Arnold Schwarzenegger
said in the famous nineteen seventy seven documentary Pumping Iron.
Always work for balance and definition.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Balance. Meanwhile, my dog doesn't have balance. He just rots.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
He's currently passed out on his little couch in my office.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, but he's a good boy.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Oh, he's a good boy.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
And at the end of the day that is as loyal,
a true and trusted soul depends on you, but knows
you've got him. Like it's it's the perfect thing.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
There's like there should be books and movies about such things.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Yeah, some kind of good boy, is there?

Speaker 6 (42:15):
Is?

Speaker 3 (42:15):
There is there a cliche where they say that they're
a man's best friend.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I think I might have heard that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I heard that one before.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, you're not you're not traversing new ground there.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
So there you go. Whether it's hanging out with the pets,
getting ready for a full slate of sporting action, we
talked a little bit Lebron James uh playing without Luka,
Doncic and Austin Reeves here to close out the campaign,
The return of Steph Curry. All of those in the backdrop,
we've got the National title game uh tomorrow night. We'll
get deeper into that matchup more from the Danny Hurley

(42:50):
side of things. I think from the the matchup side
of it, it's the scrappy underdog and that's how Danny
Hurley will play it. With the Yukon Husky's decided. What
is It's six and a half currently against Michigan, so
we'll keep an eye on that. One of the other
curious things, you know, to wrap the sporting world in

(43:12):
a hug, is you're out there in Las Vegas and
and certainly day to day, it's about information, finding more
data points to support a pick right. It's not like
the wild eyed, you know, hair flapping in the breeze,
person coming from out of state that just wants to
get money down may have a little bit of insight,

(43:33):
but mostly it's a gut that will rule over everything.
One of the things for Major League Baseball for this
year has been this automated ball and strike system, which
has caused great consternation and concern. We've seen some big moments.
We talked about CB Buckner the other day and his

(43:54):
trials behind on plate, later exacerbated by a blown call
at first base, and then eventually he took a baseball
to the mask. He has had a week, but he
has become the poster child for the way this can
go wrong, and certainly for the reputation of umpires. And
this goes across all sports. Because this weekend, commemorating the

(44:16):
announcement of the Naysmith Basketball Hall of Fame class, one
of the guys going in Joey Crawford. For those of
a certain age, maybe you WinCE a little bit about
a call that went against your star, Right, your star
wasn't big enough to get the call against a Jordan,
against Akarl Malona or one of the other luminaries along
the way. But he still works for the NBA all

(44:39):
these years later, been retired about a decade and started
going into the larger perspective of the technological games that
we've had and what it means. And he brought it
down to brass tax Jared quote. You're paid to get
the plays right. You're paid to get them right. So
we trained referees and they're very very good, gonna make mistakes.

(45:01):
There are guys who miss a jump shot, coach calls,
the time out they shouldn't have called. It's all the
same thing. We've got to watch. You're at the end
of the game. The key is to not blow that
whistle and guess you got to know where that had happened,
don't assume that it happened. And we've seen that quite
a bit again talking about the agonizing over crucial calls

(45:21):
and how you know at different points of your career
you wear it a little bit different. It's like anything.
I think any job you're in, right when you're first
new to it, you're in that stressed out period of
all right, I gotta make sure that every t is crossed,
every eye is dotted. I've got to play nice sandbox
with everybody, because I have to play nice sandbox. I

(45:42):
don't want anybody to keep me out of a project,
keep me out of a meeting, or you know, perception
versus reality of quote unquote holding me down. And then
if you're at a place long enough, you get comfortable,
and it's not that you're subtly sloppy and you don't care,
but you're comfortable and who you are and what you've
done and what you contribute to the process. So if

(46:04):
you're not in on a meeting or a chain of
calls or whatever, you don't necessarily get, you know, bristle
over such and then you get to the in phase
where things are changing in an organization. Maybe you've got
a different boss, your company gets acquired. People that you've
been teammates with leave, and once again you're on pins

(46:26):
and needles because you want all the information that you
can possibly get, so you at least know what you're
dealing with going into the office on a day to
day basis. So like you have that time continuum, and
he kind of related that to the umpire cycle of
like early on and then talking about it now when
you have the advent of so much in terms of gambling,

(46:48):
that things that might have just gone into the ether
of that's too bad now become blown up in a
whole other way. So it's trying to meeter expectations and
everything else. I love the challenges. I initially didn't, but
now I love it because you have to understand at
the end of the game, if you screw a play up,
you're going back to the hotel dreading it. I had

(47:08):
a number of those nights and we certainly see it
when it comes to the ABS because it's their front
and center. And even if it's a margin of inches,
it's a game of win and loss. Right, it's a
game within a game. At this point.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, I'm fully in favor of it.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I think the idea and the other you know, news
making headline about it was when Richie Garcia came out
about the ABS and said it was embarrassing and you know,
you know, guys are going to get humiliated in front
of thirty forty thousand people, And I just don't I
don't really relate to that because I think at the
highest level of high leverage employees, and I use the

(47:47):
dan Orlovski example, if you're a high leverage employee, and
every umpire at a professional level, every referee at a
professional level, is a high leverage employee, you are under
the microscope that comes with the territory pressure is a privilege.
I wish people cared so much about my football opinions
that they would roast me to the level that people

(48:09):
roasted dan Orlovski about his Ty Simpson opinion. And we'll
see if he's right or wrong. He'll probably be wrong,
but we don't know that for sure, but the point
is if that much attention is being brought forth on
someone's opinion, and at the end of the day, that's
all referees are paid to do, is to give their opinions, educated,
highly educated opinions on what they're seeing. If their opinion

(48:34):
is that much under the microscope, that is a privilege.
In today's society, most people use social media in other
ways to shout into the ether and nobody gives a damn.
Nobody cares. But if you are one of those fortunate
people that have a high leverage job where thousands and
millions of people care about everything you do, well, then

(48:55):
you are under the microscope to get it right. That
comes with the territory. So now we have a tool
to assist you in getting it right. I don't see
how this is bad. There is no downside to it.
Besides your feelings might get hurt, but screw your feelings.
You are getting paid a significant amount of money to
get this right. And if you don't get it right,

(49:17):
other people lose money, not just gambling, but human beings
that are paying that are getting paid to do their
job on the field. If they're not getting if you're
not getting your calls right, then they're struggling to do
their job. So we need to get this right. And
now we have a way, which, by the way, I
think in sports, other than the block charge call, I

(49:38):
think balls and strikes is the most difficult play to officiate.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
It's balls moving at.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
A whiskers notice a split second. You got to find
pinpoint accuracy where it landed on the play. Very difficult
to do. So I give them the benefit of the
doubt a lot when they get things wrong. But now
we have a way to fix it. So I don't
understand how it's bad. There is no scenario where it's
bad other than nostal and this isn't the way it
used to be, and we need the human error in sports.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
And blah blah blah blah blah. I'm past that.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
I'm past that point where the human error is so
much a part of sports that we're willing to get
things wrong in order to sacrifice them.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, I think it's you know, does the evolution of
things right? You go back. The NFL's had replay what
since ninety nine, We got the NHL going back a decade,
the NBA and the coaches challenge over the what since
twenty nineteen twenty twenty that season, and we get some
great explanations at the desk, right with smile and with

(50:36):
a couple of jokes to get you through the explanations
of how it was adjudicated. Look, what's a catch? What's
not a catch? Who actually got the ball at the
bottom of a scrum before something terrible and undoored? And
since it's a Sunday morning, I'm not even gonna say
what happens at the bottom of those piles and maybe
the football changes hands again. I mean, there's there's certainly

(50:56):
those instances. For Major League Baseball umpires, they were getting
about ninety three percent of ball strikes right. And again
we can quibble over point three inches here, point three
inches there. It's either right or it's not. Now I
understand there's some reticence, and we've had Walker Bueller talking
about it's like, hey, write a passage and the guy

(51:17):
would earn like a Greg Maddox right that little extra
spot off the black because he was consistently hitting it there. Well,
that's now gone and everybody's trying to learn the new
strike zone. But if you can eliminate a good chunk
of that seven percent error why not? Yeah, I get it.
Short term, guys are gonna have to wear it, and
it is virtually impossible from sixty feet six inches behind

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a catcher be moving parts. I miss the framing part
of catchers and the games been shipped there. But you
know what, we're go But I'll get over it. You
know what I'll get over It's.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
A small pot.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I mean, how many pitch we talk about this on Wednesday?
How many pitches throughout the course of a game. Do
you think our quote unquote frame aimed correctly. I mean
it's probably less than five.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
No, that's it. But but maybe if you get the
one call.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
You get the one call.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yes, that one call a big spot, right if it's
But it balances out because then there's probably something later
in the game that you should have gotten that you
didn't and now you're gonna get it. Like so I
do think over time, Like I talk about this in
gambling all the time, you get that horrific beat, like
the beat that never should have happened. The game should
have been over and something happened. Just calm down, It's

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gonna balance out later when you win a game, When
you win a bad well mid a month from now
that you shouldn't have they should have won.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
It's all about sample sizes. Right, my wall had got hit.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Today, but over tomorrow might be better.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Right, tomorrow might be better, But certainly statistically relevant, we
need at least thirty instances, right, as we all remember
from our basic statistic coursion, now that we don't run
and try to extrapolate based on early returns. But we've
got you know, about a fifty five percent success rate,
fifty eight percent for the pitchers and catchers, and about

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fifty two percent I think it was for hitters to
this point when they've challenged. So we'll watch it as
it gets adjudicated and fine tuned as long as the
measurement system is right. And that was the only argument
to any of it that made any sense to me, Jared,
is that you know the configurations and placement of sensors
and everything might be different, and how guys were measured

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versus you know, how they stand in a batter's box.
There might be a little bit of a difference that
needs to be accounted for, but again it's all iterations
and iterative process. You've got to start somewhere if you're
gonna build the perfect model. I think back to I mean,
how many times did I worked at Yahoo? How many

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times we would look at a product and start building
the site and we'd probably go through nine billion. Obviously,
I exaggerate iterations of it before it got pushed to everybody,
because you wanted the user interface to as seamless as
it could, to look good, to look smart. Man. I
reference to Artemis too. That's not one day of hey,

(54:06):
you know what, we should do this? All right? Line
it up tomorrow, right. I mean there's a lot goes in. Likewise, Baseball,
multi billion dollar organization, they're not doing anything likely lightly.
They've made some changes to pace and play, pace of
game whatever, and maybe this is a way to just
fight the referees and the umpires unions as we've got

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out there between them and the NFL. But it seems
like if you can improve the efficiency and effectiveness of
the play to play, it seems like you should take
that opportunity if the technology is there.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
And I'm not saying get rid of umpires behind the plate.
I'm not saying get rid of umpires period. I don't
think that's the answer either. I think the answer is
a happy medium. The answer is a little bit more nuanced,
where we get the call from the robot and the
umpire has like a little walkie talking in his ear
and it just says ball in Japan, and the umpire

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can actually physically still call it, like he could still
do as little like you know, the naked gun. He
could still make his call, but it's just not originating
from your brain. It's originating from some eye in the
sky because you're still gonna have to do everything else course,
and what it does at play at the plate, there's

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check swings, foul tips, there's all kinds of things that
the umpire needs to officiate behind the plate, but that
doesn't mean he has to be the actual signaler of
the ball and the strike that actually makes the call.
You can physically be the person that makes the call,
but it's not originally from your brain, and it just
it just doesn't It just doesn't make any sense, Mike,

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when we can get this right so quickly and so
easily that they're pushing back on it so hard, and
it makes me think that there is some kind of
ulterior motive, some other agenda going on behind the scenes
that the Empires think they're going to lose out money
or something along those lines. But yeah, we just need
to make it very seamless. Where umpire standing behind the plate,
little buzzer in his ear say Paul, and it's Paul,

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and it's strike all right, strike three.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
You're out like to be fair same way.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I mean, look, corporate society, if I take away a
bunch of your responsibility, yeah, I'm going to try to
cut your paycheck. So I understand you know some of
the fears and that you know you're you're fearful of
the robot overlords maybe taking away some of your responsibility
and your juice, right, because we all know the umpires

(56:32):
that were big deals. They were larger than life, for
better or for worse in terms of how they adjudicated things.
Certainly behind home plate, he's Jared Smith. That Jared Smith.
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Hurley a lot over the next twenty four and forty

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eight hours, and we'll tip it off next Here on.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
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Speaker 2 (57:25):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday,
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Sports Radio and your channels. How about that?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
How about a QR code? These days, everything's QR code.
Put the QR code in the easter basket. I don't
know how easter baskets work.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
I'm Jewish. But if that's.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
But you're in the basket, you open one of these
plastic eggs. Maybe you get a little coin, maybe you
get a little treat. But the gift that keeps giving
the QR code for the Fox Sports Radio, iHeart Radio app,
and certainly the YouTube channel, all of those beautiful things.
Keep an eye on at Jared smith bets for everything
he's got popping all of his different explorations and deep

(58:50):
dives into the sporting universe and the world at large.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
I'm working on a NFL draft project right now. That's cool.
Blow your guys mind.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (58:59):
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
You got that fitness book you were working on.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Yeah, a bankroll turned bankroll into biceps.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Biceps betting to biceps whatever the case in aple fool's joke.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
People actually a lot of people. I had a couple
of people.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Reach out and they said, I on followed you after
you posted that, and then they followed me back, and
I was like, well, you obviously didn't really do a
good job of vetting it, because I posted like an
hour later that it was a joke.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
You started singing like Jonathan Groff in Hamilton, You'll be back,
and I believe.

Speaker 4 (59:29):
And then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Speaker 6 (59:31):
That was.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
That was what I posted about an hour or so
after I originally posted that I was quitting gamble. I
was retiring from gambling forever. Like, come on, no one
does that. Who retireship gambling?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Not one. You may claim it, but you're still making
picks happening. You're still going. You may say that you're
completely against gambling in any way, shape or form. Uh,
yet you're talking about the spread. It's in there. It's
in there, It always there.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Stuck with me forever.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
And I'm working on this insane project for the anim
draft that is all about betting on the NFL Draft.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Yeah, wait, three weeks, let's knock it down, lock and load.
Maybe we'll do that coming up in about fifteen minutes
from now, because my guy Jason Smith had a fun
little hot take that got fust Out curs mad at
him about the draft, and it's something we've talked about.
It was a news item that popped up, and it's
certainly while maybe far fetched, like hey, there's alternate universes.

(01:00:24):
I watched the Marvel Cinematic universes. Lots of ways. I'm
watching some crazy film with two Vince Vaughn's and a
James Marsden in there. I mean it's crazy, but either way, look,
we have the Joe Adell having the time of his life,
obviously callback to Sergio dipp in his twenty seventeen run
at ESPN. But we talk about the Yukon Huskies as

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a collective organization, love them to hate them, villains, heroes
depends on which side of the aisle yard maybe which
side you bet, but certainly look Oriema and his tirade
with the apology non apology. I've gret relationship with a
lot of the staffs like no, no, no, we're asking
you about you and Dawn Staley because that's really where

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it comes down to. And then Danny Hurley, who's playing
on first for Oriema. He's done. Later on today, we've
got South Carolina and UCLA getting it on. Our guy,
Steve Hartman comes up in about a half hour from now.
He's gonna talk a lot about the Bruins. But when

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we look at it, the end of that game, Jared,
and it's been broken down a million different ways. Just
want to make sure we set the record straight. They
shook hands at the end of the game. That's where
all the cursing and yelling at each other went on.
There just happened to be point one seconds left on
the clock for them to run it out, and then

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Gino left. Okay, he's still a baby. He's still a
cry baby that took his ball and went home and
blamed everybody else except for shot making, his coaching. Because
the third quarter rant really didn't help anybody. I don't
know if that was Hey, you guys hearing this. Look
look what I'm doing. I'm blaming the ref and I'm
blaming Don Staley for using abusive language. Now let's go

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out and play that fourth quarter in a five point
game and win. No, I mean, we could have a
whole two thoughts concurrently on him. Twelve time winner, one
of the great ambassadors for the game overall, but this
was not his finest hour, and as a deposed tyrant,
he went back into the locker room. Meanwhile, we got
Dandy Hurley walking around screaming in the bowels of stadiums,

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seemingly to himself, channeling some of his inner Jeremy Strong
from succession as he goes and puffs his chest out
when he's getting booed in the post games, like why
you're mad about the head butt? Like, well, I think
folks were kind of salty about that because in theory
you could have lost because of your skull budding of
an official. But play on, as they say. There's the

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walking the tightrope kind of aspect to this, right hero
for some villain for others. But the largess of it
all is the greatness of their coaching acumen, whether it's
as a people manager or as a tactician or however
you assign that pie makes me want to go buy

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a pizza after him done is the genius of it
all when we talk about these coaches, and for Danny
Hurley on Monday night, he has an opportunity to go
into some rarefied air. I mean, we are talking of
a class of two four. What have we got six
guys ahead of him in terms of all time NCAA titles.
Wouldn't attend Coach k at six again, Coach k Wavin

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and everybody after Shire loss was Funny Rup at four
and then you got WILLIAMS Calhoun and Bob Knight at three,
and Danny Hurley has an opportunity to join that class
on Monday night.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I'll start with the gino stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
I think I think coaches should be graded differently on
how they react post game, whether they win or lose.
I think the way that Hurley won his game and
how he reacted after that with the headbud and I
guess they call it a forehead hug. I don't know,
whatever you want to call it. It like you give

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him a little leeway because he just like, that's one
of the most iconic moments in college reason college basketball history,
and and your emotions take over in the right the
you know, the thrill of victory, and then there's the
agony of defeat. And I think how a coach handles
himself in defeat really much more defines you as a
coach than how you handle yourself in victory, because I

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think again the emotions of victory since sometimes can be
so overwhelming that he almost like you lose yourself a
little bit. Wherein defeat, I believe is where you find yourself.
You find who you really are as a person. And
I think that is what concerns me about how Geno
acted because based on what I heard, and again this
is just me gathering the walnuts into the into the

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you know, the in the acorns to try to figure
out what happened here. He was upset that don didn't
give him give him a handshake before the game. Like
there's like a Final four protocol that says you're supposed
to the coaches are supposed to meet in a certain spot,
you know, the nineteenth grade, you know, the ninth green
at nine tricks. So to say, yeah, it's supposed to,
they're supposed to be in a certain spot and handshake
and this and that, and and Down knows that because

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she's been in the Final four, and Gino knows that
because he's been in the final fr and and and
Down kind of stiffed him like like that's that was
the glean of what I figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, what it came down to is the waiting game
kept me there for three minutes, you know whatever. The
protocol is, Hey over the loud speaker, an announcement and hey,
go shake hands whatever. But they did shake hands before the.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Game, and technically Geno's right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
I think technically Geno's right that in that moment, Don
should have been there and she and and she wasn't.
But my question is that's before the game starts, yep.
And now you're carrying that anger with you throughout the
entire game because obviously this was something that he was
steing over.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
I don't know for how long.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
But they got their butts whooped in that game, and
it's fair to question if Gino's mind was in the
right place during the course of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
And that's it, right in that third quarter interview, And
again we can always have that conversation of whether you
should be having these interviews in the middle of a game.
I think they're fun and when done right, like I always.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
I think it reveals a lot about the character again
of the coach to us during the heat of the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
How does that coach handle themselves well?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
And he handled himself poorly. And that's where you know,
as as Jason and I were talking about it as
it was breaking down, we had all the audio. You
can find the podcast in its full form the trunk
aate it. I think for Dawn Staley, this was not
just to win in the moment to propel you to
the final. I think for her and for all the

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other elite programs in women's college basketball, there's an invisible
high five chain going along against the juggernaut that's been
gino Oriama. Doesn't mean he doesn't still have great relationships
with his players, right. We watched all the TIERI stuff
with Page Beckers a year ago and all of that stuff.
But on the grand scheme, how unhinged he got in

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that interview, and she's saying things I can't even begin to.
Oh my ears they hurt over that. Yes, because nobody's
ever cursed at an official on a sideline before. Yeah, right, right,
So like he ad come off a.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
Little bit petty, a little sour grapes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
It kind of felt like he was a little upset
that his team was getting whooped and he took it
out on Dawn in that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Situation, right, But that's what it looks you would have
felt like for.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Me, but you were the big bad bully all season
along and what thirty six points.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
Per game at least don't like to get bullied.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
But that's just all of a sudden, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
It reminds me of like, you know, you're having a
bad day at work and like things are going really bad,
you know, like you get a flat tire and all
these things, and then you come home and your your
your spouse like overcooks dinner, puts too much salt in
you know, your tomato sauce, and then you freak out
over that, and like the little thing escalates into this
big explosion because over the course of your day you

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had a really rough day. But it really wasn't that
handshake that probably, you know, miffed Gino. It was probably
the fact that his team got their butts handed to
them for forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
But yeah, it was just amazing to watch though. As
it melted down on the court, right you had players
missing wide open layups. You had little bunnies in the
lane that they've taken a million times that are suddenly misses.
Your your two biggest players. When I think, what was
it combined seven for thirty one. Yeah, your point guard

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missed a layup after splitting the lane late bad day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
The office to something very minor.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
But that's it, right, So it all adds up. And look,
you could you could be unhappy about the officiating if
you're if you're going down that road, if you're gino.
Guess what they just I did like the Legion of
Boom and like the Patriots all those years ago, they
were gonna let you get physical, and that was true
in that game, beat each other up, have at it,

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and your team didn't answer the bell, and then when
you had open shots, you didn't make those. And I
guarant damn tea going into the fourth quarter. Some of
those errors that got exacerbated were largely in part because
you watched your coach lose his mind for the prior
three quarters. And to that that ultimate interview where Holly

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Rowe was just she had a massive game for her
for sure of Wow, what am I even seeing here?
Going back to the halftime sprint and the jersey thing,
I'll strong ripped her own jersey, but you know what
it made for better fodder and better copy until there
was videotape to prove that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Just at Gino gets the help he needs because it
feels like that was a rough like he it seems
like he just a little bit of little therapy. After
that moment, just saying Jared, the recruiting trail just got
that much more exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Hey, you know you want to cross Yukon off your list.
Here's how we operate here.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Well, they're gonna ask him about it now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
They have to listen.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Recruiting is more about fundraising and relationships than it is
about actually finding talent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Absolutely absolutely, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Know how that situation helps him in that area. It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Meanwhile, on the other side, Danny Hurley, as we alluded
to the rarefied air only six with more championships under
their belt. Polarizing guy, But you know me, I'd rather
have it one or two villains in the mix that
we can talk about that stir the drink and going
back to our one folks can find again the podcast.

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Shay and Chris will get that together and get that
up when we're finished. But you don't have to like
the methodology, you don't have to like the guy, but
there has to be the begrudging for some respect about
the results and all they're decided underdogs here, Jared. I mean,
I don't know that there's gonna be any coach that'll
be able to play that better than Danny Hurley.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Oh that that's all he needed to see, because I
know they were technically an underdog against Illinois, but that
game was a very tight line. I think it closed
one and a half. It was barely an underdog. Now
he's a seven point under, a full touchdown underdog to Michigan,
and he gets to use that narrative in his back pocket.

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Now that's not gonna help his team make shots. So
they were plus eighteen net three point margin. They made
twelve and Illinois made six. That's you know, six threes
times three is eighteen. They're gonna need to be in
that range again on Monday night, and they were a
plus four turnover margin. They won the turnover margin eight
to four. They're gonna have to win both three and

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turnover margin on Monday night, and I don't think. I
don't think they can do it, but I wouldn't put
it past I wouldn't be shocked if they do it,
but I don't think they can do it. I don't
know if they can play that well well and that efficiently. Again,
they did it against Duke the final ten minutes. They
were incredible. They won the turnover margin eleven to one
over the final ten minutes of that Duke game, and

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then again didn't turn it over in the last ten
minutes of the game. Their last turnover in the Duke
game was that the ten minute mark of the second half. Incredible,
and then they went the first twenty six minutes without
a turnover against Illinois. I don't know if they can
go thirty six minutes without a turnover again, but they
might have to, and they might have to make a
bowtload of threes again.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Now, maybe they do. Maybe the shots.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Fall if they do. If they do those two things, well, Mike,
they are live on Monday night.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
I just hope it's close late Jason Smith and I'll
have it on air for you here. We'll be breaking
it down and well ripping folks appropriately as it goes through.
The last thing off of those two final four games
from yesterday, Jared, I the eight combined assists between Arizona
and Illinois. That's less than most rec League games. I mean,

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that's that level of ineffectiveness.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Michigan was just like so wide open, free flowing, like
it's just Arizona just did not get into them at
all defensively, and and you know, you just give him,
you give him a lot of credit for that. And Illinois,
I think is another one too, where Illinois just didn't
have any of that fight. Yeah, you know, early in
the game they got punched and then they battled back
a little bit, but then down the stretch like it

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was just like they kind of knew. I think it's
tough when a twenty year old kick kind of knows
you're gonna lose. It's just it's tough to kind of
continue to fight sure and play at that high level.
And that's why when teams do get blown out and
you get the one player on the losing team that's
just going off still, I think that's almost more impressive
than when you're winning and you're going off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
There's no question about it. At Jared Smith Betts is
where you find and find me over at swallowing him
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Speaker 8 (01:13:49):
What's up by Low and Mike and Jared are busy
day already as we look forward to the National Championship
game tomorrow night between Michigan and Yukon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Is today you kind of?

Speaker 8 (01:13:57):
Head coach Danny Hurley said that Husky junior guards Solo
Ball sprained his left foot in the win over Illinois
and the Semis last night. He will not practice today.
In fact, today he's in a walking boot. Ball is
Yukon's third leading score at thirteen points a game on
the season, so his status for the National title game
against the Wolverines presently undetermined. Off the court, Alabama head

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coach Nate Oates has signed a new contract that will
make him one of the top five highest paid coaches
in the country. Coming up just under two hours from
now with three point thirty eastern, it's the women's National
Championship game between South Carolina and UCLA and Major League
Baseball Los Angeles Dodgers star Mookie Betts has been diagnosed

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with a right oblique strain. He'll be placed on the
ten day injured list. The Dodgers game at Washington today
presently in a weather delay. And more big coaching news
out of the National Hockey League, of course, is Jared
Knows with the Las Vegas Golden Knights recently out of
nowhere hiring John Tortorella the New York Islanders to fired

(01:15:01):
head coach Patrick Waugh, hall of Fame goalkeeper, and they
replaced him with former Dallas Stars head coach Peter DeBoer,
who is fired by the Stars last year despite the
fact that he helped lead them to the Western Conference finals.
So a busy Sunday already, guys, back to you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Thanks so much, Ilo, have a blest one at Isaac
Lohencron where you find him in the Twitter verse, find
Jared over at Jared Smith Bets by Me at Swollen Dome. Also,
yesterday the Sabers qualified for the Stanley Cup playoffs, first
time that they've been able to do that in a decade.
So you know what rebirth renewal. We talk about it
as well. Team out there in the deserts trying to

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do it. Did a move they made this week change
their fortunes of these coming weeks? And will it change
Jared Smith's prep. We'll explain it all as we wrap
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Any pick for the women's game later under.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
So the under is eight and oh in the last
eight women's turning games. It went four and oh in
the Elite eight, it went two and oh in the
final four. And I just feel like these teams just
kind of shrink up in the moment because the overs
were actually very profitable early on in the tournament. In fact,
despite the fact that the unders hitting eight straight Women's

(01:16:52):
turning games, the over is still thirty five and thirty
one in the tournament. So that means it was thirty
five and twenty three until the last two games of
the Sweet sixteen, and we've had an eight straight underrun.
Because I think when the when the the level increases
of the players and the teams. I think the the
play tightens up a little bit. I call it TSS

(01:17:12):
tight sphincter syndrome, and it's just it's very prevalent in
these important games. When you're dealing with twenty year olds.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
There you go South Carolina, four and a half is
what I'm seeing. One twenty seven and a half.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Wow, I got won thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Okay, so we're seeing some movement.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Then, yeah, well, because again the sharp betters are seeing
what I'm seeing. Not saying that I am a sharp
better but I play one on TV sometimes. But they
they they see what I see with these numbers, and
they're been there. It's been it's been significant. I mean
the UCLA Texas game the other day stayed under by
forty points. The total was one thirty four and a half.
The final game total was ninety five.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah. Those those games on Friday night were we say,
esthetically displeasing. I mean, the best part was the drama
with the coaches.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
That was the only good part of either game. South
Carolina you con stayed under by twenty six and a
half point. No total State at one ten.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
That's second half. I mean, give Betts credit though. I mean,
she's an absolute menace on the defensive end, which.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Is why you say, like keeps it tight.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
It feels like it could be a close game, but
I think South Carolina is the better team.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Get in about eighty seven dollars, all right, we got
about two minutes left here, So I give you the
Jason Smith hot take. After the five year, one seventy
two deal, which is essentially we all agree in theory
a one year, twenty million dollars deal for Kirk Cousins
showing up there in the desert, now play as well

(01:18:35):
activate some of these other things. He's still getting eight
million or thereabouts from Atlanta that you're looking at a
scenario and look, it's ninety nine point five percent or
whatever probability. But what if gold Mendoza gets spun off
somewhere else and that Captain Kirk is the guy because
they're not ready to win now, like is my extension

(01:18:56):
of it. And by time you are, you're already making
a decision of whether he's got to be your guy.
Because if you're bringing in Kirk Cousins, is he just
saying no, no, no, I get it. I'm number two here.
I don't buy that he's ever that guy.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
I disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
I mean because also the Raiders signed Tyler Lindabam, Kay
Walker and Nkobe Dean, Jalen Naylor, Quidy pay, Eric Stokes,
Malcolm Konz, they traded for Toron Johnson, and they get
Max Crosby back. So I'm not under the impression that
the Raiders can't win for a year. Go, you know,
start to build a culture of winning in the locker
room with Kirk and then pass that on to Mendoza,
and Mendoza takes over at some point inevitably when Kirk

(01:19:34):
struggles because physically he's not probably ready to start and
play seventeen games at a high level.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
That's my take on the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, and that's the curiosity right where he's at physically
two years removed from a huge injury, and last year
there were a couple of moments where it looked like
Kirk Cousins of a few years prior, and then an
awful lot of boy, he looks every bit the thirty
seven plus that he is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
So I think they draft Mendoza and they figure out
who's better from the camp returns, and that's who they
figure out who to start, and either way, Cousins is
going to be a mentor even if he doesn't start
from week one. I would make Cousins the favorite to
start week one, but that doesn't mean he will.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
I just like the the hot take rey of it,
of course, because we got a talking point because we
got nothing in this draft otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
That's what the Raiders are intending to do, because I
don't think they would have signed all these other players
if they thought they were punting this year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Well, you just had a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Uh, But then they get crossby back and they still
kept all of them because they could have backed down
all those deals because it was they weren't finalized.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Well, you still had all that money to spend. We
got plenty of time on that at Jared Smith Batts
find me over at Swollen Dome coming back. He got
Steve and VJ. Happy Easter, everybody, go do great things.

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