Mike Harmon & Ryan Hollins talk Lakers 3rd in West, Bam Adebayo's 83, Steve Kerr & So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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As we roll it on.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
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Speaker 2 (00:56):
But today it's Ryan.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Hollins and I longtime friend of our show of the
network working with the Planet Houston. The Houston Rockets played
in the league for a decade, the UCLA Bruins. All
of that at the Ryan Hollins on Twitter, Ryan, welcome in.
It's been a minute's things. How's travel in the great NBA?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
What is going on? My brother? It has been too long.
I have no complaints. I had no complaints. It's been
a great season. Kevin Durant has been just a breath
of fresh air. And I think for me, even as
a guy that played against Kevin, getting the chance to
see him every single day, man, you really enjoy him.

(01:40):
And I'm telling you, man, he's so much different than
what anyone would assume. Man. And I'm telling you, like,
he goes out of his way, and he's a guy
that embraces literally any and everybody from the fans, the organization,
the coaches. But I say that to say that it's
been a wonderful season, my brother.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, it's been a topsy turvy. Obviously a lot of
negativity across the league.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
We'll get to bam Adebayo next hour. Because as a
guy that played for a decade in the league and
now you're you're around these guys and the competition nightly,
everybody chiming in, and we'd be remiss if we didn't
scratch that itch a little bit here with you. I
mean I had my feelings front and center because outside
of folks in the arena, I might have been one

(02:26):
of ten people to actually watch that game.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
So I have some thoughts. But all of that to say.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I mean for the NBA, if you take the microcosm
and and leave out the noise from the macro sense,
right of, and tanking is a problem, and look, trying
to find solutions for any of that becomes a long
arduous process. But night to night, you know, when we
get those marquee matchups, we're gonna get Minnesota and Oklahoma

(02:54):
City coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
When when we get those teams involved and some of
these heavyweights, it really is at the best of what
the sport offers. You know, the tanking part of it
is a problem, and it seems to extend and pull
on the league a little bit more. And let's face it, Ryan,
we bask in negativity in sports media in the world

(03:18):
in general, so it tries to detract from the greatness atop.
But you know, Kevin Durant and those rockets at forty
one and twenty five, one of the stories and teams
that has us with our eyebrows raised as we start
getting ready for the April and second tournament.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, listen, I think for everybody got it. And I
want to address the one thing you said, because everybody's
up in arms about this tanking thing, and there's two
sides to it. For one, you probably have one of
the best drafts maybe ever that we have happening. Okay,
where if you're anywhere in the top eight, you got

(03:59):
a franchise, you potentially a franchise changing player. Okay, that's
why you're seeing a lot of teams shut it down.
But I also understand the NBA has done a great
job with tanking. And I want to say this in
this apple, take this food for thought. The playing tournament
really changed a lot of that. Before you'd have eight
teams from each conference that got in, and now you

(04:21):
have what an additional what for playing in And what
that does is you create a more competition later in
the season. So when I played eight teams that got in,
and what happened was towards the end of the year,
you'd see teams go and they would shut it down,

(04:42):
and they'd start shutting it down way sooner. You can't
afford to shut it down and later we're gonna get in.
We talked a little bit Houston already, we're gonna talk
about the Lakers, that big win over Denver. We're gonna
talk about Minnesota that seting in there. The three to
six spot is ridiculous, and what it does is it
sets up for some really good basketball down the stretch

(05:03):
and then you got teams that are going to be
fighting to get into the play in. So again, I
think Adam Silver has done a great job addressing tanking.
Forgive me, it's not just going to go away. If
you're a fan that feels short changed by your team
not playing well or how long they do it are
the ethics behind it? I get it, I understand it,
but there have been provisions put in place to address such.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, Unfortunately, Like it's still a business at the end
of the day, right, and so long as the draft
lottery exists, you've got the incentive. It's like, well, we're
not a title contender, and then you have to decide,
you know what level you want to be at. Right,
there's those elite teams and we'll get into that at
over the next two hours of all, Right, where's that

(05:46):
line of demarcation between these are legitimate title contenders. Then
we have the the what for lack of a better term,
the Hall of very good and the teams that are
good and competitive to a point, and then we've got
down in the play in the seven through tens and
eleven twelve, down the stretch of all right, can you

(06:07):
really compete? Or is it better to just say, hey,
like Dallas did a couple of years ago, all right,
we don't want to be in that play in because
it means a couple extra ping pong balls and a
lot of wishing and wanting and hoping. To your point,
we've got eight to ten guys right off the jump,
all these freshmen and would be superstars that are going
to come into the league right away. Maybe changes the fortune,

(06:29):
but you'd rather do that and take your spin on
that wheel and that game show, then continue to be
mired in mediocrity. So that's where we get into the
I think the anger that folks and vitriol, and the
hard part is if you're a perennial team in that space,
that's where the frustration lies.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, and you know we're gonna talk about later. Vam
out of Bio. My angle isn't from Vam's angle of frustration.
It's on the other side.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, I mean, that's just it, right.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
There are so many different ways to you know, peel
that onion back the the rank vitriol that folks have had,
the obviously older players from a generation gone by. Yeah,
we would have put that guy in the fourth deck.
Maybe you would have, maybe maybe you wouldn't have. But
you know, it's been one of the great debates. Normally

(07:23):
these things you have about a twenty four to forty
eight hour cycle. So I love that there's still some
oxygen in the fire there. But let's stay in the
Western Conference. Let's stay with those Houston Rockets, because as
they said here forth, see, we'll get into the Lakers
in ernest in a couple of minutes, coming off of
the heroics against Denver, Minnesota in the fifth spot, Denver

(07:44):
at six, and then we get to Phoenix, the Clippers,
who have been ridiculous after that six and twenty one,
start suddenly at thirty four and thirty three. And when
we talk about Kevin Durant, we'd be remiss not to
grab Kawhi Leonar a couple years younger. But the same
idea of you know, when we see the elder statesman

(08:04):
standing up and putting their teams on their back. Really
quite impressed, especially for a Clippers team that looked like
when they were making deals that they were ready to
bottom out.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean I think I'm blown away with Kawhi Leonard.
I think from a a someone who's covered his career
played against them, I think there's like a forgive me
for wrong, right, Like there's like a Kawhi fatigue. And
I say it in a sense because Mike, what would
you say, am I wrong? Probably about three or four

(08:34):
years straight, we're like, watch out for the Clippers, watch
out for the Clippers, watch out for the Clippers, because
you had such a respect for his talent level and
what he could bring to the table. They had Paul George,
and he had James Harden and they were pretty much loaded.
And after a certain point, you know, the Clippers were
like everybody else's pick. You know, before that it was Boston.
Remember you'd always go Boston, watch out for the Celtics.

(08:56):
Then they finally end up getting a championship. But for
Kawhi Leonard, I think by far he's gonna go down
as having one of the most outstanding but yet most
intriguing careers in NBA history, because you've never seen a
guy that has been injured this much, have legitimately injured surgeries,

(09:18):
have the ability to play at the level that Kawhi
Leonard is playing on any given night. Mike, tell me
if I'm wrong, he is the best player in the NBA.
And I saw it up close and personal. As that consistent.
Is he always gonna be healthy? We don't know. We
haven't known for some years, but he has been in

(09:40):
several moments the best player in the league. Sorry Jokic,
Sorry Giannis, sorry Shay, I've seen them all. When he
turns it on, he's second to none.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Still, Yeah, it's one of the fun things we get
to do. Obviously, Smith and I work in the evening
shift here Fox Sports Radio West Coast on we get
to watch a lot of those Clipper games live and
in living color, and we forget about how old some
of these guys are. And now I don't mean it
from the pejorative side of it's just the look they're
in year fourteen, fifteen seventeen. In the league, we talk

(10:12):
about KD and his history. You look at Kawhi he
came into the league in twenty eleven, twenty twelve. Now,
whatever's going on with old Uncle Dennis no show jobs
or whatever else, that's still being ferreted out, and whether
the Clippers ultimately pay a huge price for it will
remain to be seen. But at this age, at this moment,

(10:33):
with the surrounding cast, that he has fifty percent from
the field and averaging twenty eight points a game, twenty
eight points a game, which is a career high. I mean,
that's the absurdity level of it. You go back to
his first year with the Clippers in twenty nineteen average
twenty seven to one. He's a point higher than that

(10:55):
and carrying this squad and night to night. You're right,
he is in that upper echelon and the you know,
the metal stand and then you just decide, you know
which level of game you want we'll get. We'll get
into the whole Shake Gildess Alexander angle because that that
ties back into to BAM to a degree as we
go through. But yeah, for Kawhi Leonard right now and

(11:17):
what the Clippers have done, are they a true contender?

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I don't know. But every night he's on the court,
you got a puncher's chance.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
No, you do. And you know it's almost like I
remember JJ Reddick was talking about a couple of years
back when he was doing TV that he got a
chance to watch one of Kawhi's Leonard's workouts. He Pat
Beav talked about him kind of being a perfectionist in
the workouts and like whatever, he's doing well working out,

(11:45):
Like he's not short changing the game. Now you could
argue you sort of changed his contract, the expectations with
the Clippers, whatever it may be. But like as far
as controlling what he can or putting his effort in,
it's there man and handles about as tight as it
can get. He's got a unique like Mike Like, it's
a crazy way he plays. Because Kawhi's hands are so big,

(12:08):
he can make plays that other people can't make. When
he grabs the ball, he almost just picks it up
out the air and shoots a three or shoots a
pull up like it's it's a really really unique style
of play that it's hard to emulate. And then he's
so strong that he can just create space pound dribble
pound dribble, punt, shoulder step back in those fadeaways are

(12:30):
just about unguardable man. And again you can see the
lab work that he's put in. But he's he's going
to go down as the most intriguing player for many reasons,
Robby to have ever ever played this game. That you
could you could put over a number of these guys
on any given night. You know he's gonna be that guy.
We're the old guy. You may Mike. If you ever
hear the old old g'z, they go, what do you

(12:51):
know about Michael Thompson? Michael Thompson was one of those
names you talked about, not talking about Clay's dad, the
other Michael Thompson. Kawhi Leonard's gonna be one of those names.
Are you guys don't know about Kwhi Leonard?

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Well, get folks to go back and the way back, right,
because that run in San Antonio is like another lifetime
ago at this point, right, he's lived several basketball lives since.
And the effort that they're putting up this year again
after the six and twenty one start absolutely absurd. Now
you mentioned the size of his hands. You know you

(13:22):
can do all those comparative things when they have those
all star kind of representations. Hey, put your hand, you know,
against their handprints, like you're out in front of Grahman's
Chinese Theater here in Hollywood, right, you can step in
the shoes of the greats. I gotta do that. It's
Oscar night. And for Kawhi, they have the thing with
the basketball. They're actually doing a bobblehead promotion on March

(13:44):
twenty fifth where they'll have a full size claw machine
in the pop Plaza. You can go and play in
the machine and try to win some prizes. But it's
literally a Kawhi claw machine bobblehead where one of his
hands is the giant claw that you would use to
go and extract prize. You don't like your and toy
story and the aliens and the claw that can see

(14:07):
I'm showing my age and the love of kids movies
with my girls, you know, all of that stuff. But
that's pretty good. You got the raptors and the clippers
for that game at the end to a dome. But yeah,
for Kawhi Leonard, it's and that does the hard good
for me though on the grand scale, Ryan, when we

(14:27):
talk about these teams that are still battling and competing
right now, that a lot of them are led by
guys in their mid thirties and beyond, so I don't
feel quite as old.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's a golden era a basketball.
I remember, Mike, there was a great time in the
NBA where you had young Tim Duncan, young Kobe, Young Garnet,
and then you know, you still had Carl Malone, Michael Jordan,

(15:02):
John Stockton, you had you kind of had a crossover
of those stars. And then you gotta think, like, Lebron's
been doing this deal for twenty years, so you know
you're now getting that other crossover of the Katie Lebron
Curry who were still playing at a really, really high level.
And then you get the Anthony Edwards, the Luka, donc

(15:23):
Chiz Janni sounds Aakoupo somewhere in the middle man. But
the NBA ends up having this crossover of talent. And
you know, it's funny with doing an NBA broadcast versus
like a college broadcast. I tried to explain to people.
They go, well, what's what's what's the difference when they're
getting the business. I say, well, when I'm doing college,

(15:43):
you know, those guys are there for four years. I
can't imagine now they're probably there for a season or two.
Two years out of university in the NIL era is
probably a long time where when you go to NBA,
we've seen the same Lebron James for twenty years. You
know you can break them down. You know what he's
gonna do. You've seen a number of games, you have
the history. But that's the difference, man. But it is

(16:07):
amazing de longevity and then the fact that these guys
are putting in so much work. We see Kevin every night,
and the thing about Kevin Durant is the way that
he works, Like he's pushing our young guys going like
I want to play eighty two games, Like you got
to force me to sit out, you got to force
me not to practice, Like I love basketball. It's go time.

(16:29):
But you know that effect that he's having on our
younger players who don't come from that generation play, you know,
things are different. You know, we'll be honest. So again, man,
it's been a breath of fresh air. But you know,
you get like you said, you get these old heads
and you got the young boys going at it at
the same time, and it makes us some good basketball.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, and lastly on Kevin Durant, one of my favorites
to watch and a medical marvel, a man who's had
the NBA career he has despite no discernible calves.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Man he is and you're funny. Man.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Come on, man, no hint a muscle on it, and
God bless them. Look, we got to continue. We got
the Lakers. We'll talk about something Lebron did last night
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Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, welcome back ed Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Sunday,
Mike Carment, Ryan Hollins with you. We've got the IVY
League off and Pacy will get an update from our guy,
Isaac Lowenkron on the early goings here about midway through
the first four more championship games later and then bracketology,
a lot of talking. Miami, Ohio will touch on that

(19:29):
a little bit next hour. Dan Byer and Aaron Torres
on their show later on this afternoon, they will break
it all down, sauce toss all of those kinds of
things that we used to say, do you set up
the Hey, they're gonna break down the bracket, the good,
the bad, the ugly.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Who got left out?

Speaker 1 (19:47):
If you got left out of a sixty eight turn
team field, that'll feel terribly bad for you. But you
know what, someone will feel hurt because well that's what
we take it as a slight and an insult. Not
here though a lot of positivity. We got the team together,
we got Chris and Shay the other side, we got
our boy Isaac Low and Kron with us, and we
got a full slate of action and we had a

(20:08):
sixteen year old score in the Premier League. Ryan, did
you see this? Sixteen years seventy three days. Absolutely insane.
As you're in the final minute, right, you're an extra time,
they bring the goalie up as there's a corner kick
coming in, they get it out and then the sixteen

(20:29):
year old dribbles it, deeks a couple of defenders and
scores the goal. So I mean, I think back to
sixteen year old self and boy, if I could be
a top notch guy in the Premier League, what a life?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Oh yeah, no, there's set in money wise. Yeah, if
I had to choose, you know, me and God had
a conversation before I was born, you know it would
have been soccer. Then the money's a whole lot different. Okay,
we understand even in basketball we can't compare. But you know,
at sixty, man, sometimes you just have these phenoms that

(21:05):
can make those plays. And it's funny you talked about
Luka Doncetz earlier. We're gonna talk about him coming up.
Like people don't realize he was fifteen, sixteen years old
and he had been this good for a very long time.
These were the plays that he was making, and a
lot of people didn't understand playing for Real Madrid like

(21:27):
what it was. You know, the respect wasn't there from
an NBA standard, But for Luka Donchets at his age
to be making those plays and you talk about a
sixteen year old, you know, scoring in the Premier League
like that's kind of the equivalent of what Donchez was doing.
A lot of people didn't you know, didn't get it.
So he's off to ethan man that is that is
it's like a monster. Like what does he go back

(21:49):
to school or class and say or if at all
does he need school anymore? You know, of course he does.
But look that's phenomenal.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, Max Domain with the goal sixteen year, seventy three days.
Talk about Luca Dodgs playing overseas. Right in individual sports,
we've had that all fine and good. When did you
know that you were going to be able to start
pushing the envelope? George a collegiate career and then a
ten year year career in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, gosh, as far as college, when was there a moment?
I mean, it was a goal but I will say
the NBA was always a goal. But I will say,
like the moment I knew I was good enough to
play in the NBA, there were runs that used to
be at UCLA at the winning center, winded Center was
getting fixed. They were down at gosh, what is that

(22:42):
that high school? It was at one of the local
high schools. Forgive me, I'm getting old. I forget the
high school. But you had Baron Davis, Paul Pearce, Sean Marion,
Joe Johnson. You had all these like like NBA players
in there. And I remember I just rose up. One
of my teammates at the time, Brian Morrison, threw me
alive and like I dunked over a few guys, and

(23:06):
I remember going like, Okay, I think I could play
in the NBA. So that's the moment I called my
mom afterwards, A think I think I could go to
the v A.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
What was Mom's reaction. She was like, oh, really, you
got a test Wednesday, get back to books.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think you can go to me. And she said,
oh really, She's okay, well I guess I believe I
guess I believe you. And then later on she's like, yeah,
you did say you'd do it.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, and then there you are for a decade now
covering the league and joining us here on a Fox
Sports Sunday. But yeah, it's always that fascinating. I hit
the rewind button. When did you know you wanted to
do X, y Z. Whatever the the path and life
people take, and certainly for athletes that opportunity, you know,
maybe a growth spurt early in domination. Maybe it's the

(23:57):
slow growth what's curious. And we were talking about up
the draft and and coming up this year and how
interesting it'll be with all the one ones and dons,
and then I see the sixteen year.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Old'm like, could we should?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
We always wondered if if someone wanted to take a shot, Hey,
this guy's developing, and even if he's not ready for
year one, well we kind of red shirt him to
a degree, but he's in our system. Wondering if that
day ever comes.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Man, I think the NBA and it's probably based on
player like and I think about this as far as
you know, like a younger player playing and when they're
ready or when they're not ready. Let me ask you this, Mike,
can you imagine Lebron James or Kobe Bryant going to college. No,

(24:46):
like like like as much as we want to wrap
our minds, and it would have been Lebron at Ohio
State unless things change, and Kobe Bryant at Duke. But
like like and had I had to sit back myself
and really wrap my mind around, like can I imagine that?
And I don't. I don't think that I could. Now. Obviously,
you have some guys go g League, some guys go overseas,
now you know they do that. And I wonder in

(25:09):
Wimby if you think about it, he was already an
international player, so he just kind of came over when
it was time. But if we have the next American
born player that's coming up through the rankings, will that
player be dominant enough to change the age rule? And
my understanding was why it was changed. As we dive in,
it's just imagine this, Mike. They said the NBA gms

(25:33):
got and tired of going and scouting AU in high
school tournaments. Do they have a case? Are they wrong?
Or is that strong enough itself? That's part of it, yeah, No,
that was a big part of it.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
The other part was the number of times that they
took the idea that this guy's going to be a
beast at the next level and guessed wrong.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
So they also were protecting themselves.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
M yeah, I gotta give you that too, Right, A
lot of.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Those guys that were coming in that either hadn't played
that meant maybe they weren't the hardest workers just all around.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
So, and we always wonder when someone gets the bag,
because if you're coming out, generally it's because someone's convinced
you you're a top pick. Yes, so once all of
a sudden, I got a giant bag, and in the NBA,
it's guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
As that guy's still gonna keep working.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, here's the thing. Even in terms of the G League,
there's there's the two A players added on I think
you get you get like three of those. You have
the G League, they make more money now you have overseas,
you have more leagues of play in. And it looks
like college is getting a lot more lenient in the
sense of understanding, like, uh, there's that they got to

(26:45):
make money. They have to have something entertaining, you know,
you know, the kids just weren't coming to school anymore.
It's not the same like like I would have like
it was a dream not just an NBA but like
to go play at UCLA or play Big t I'm
college basketball, you know it. This new generation of kids,
they don't feel the same. So I think that the

(27:08):
challenge was, you know, how do you make college more
enticing or allowing these kids to come back? But I
think maybe we are getting into a space I don't
know how you feel, Mike, where you can have these
collegiate players go out and make some money, you know,
playing in college, or let's say they put their name
in the draft it doesn't work out. I think there's

(27:29):
other avenues where they play where they're not so much
you know, ruining their lives or there's just nothing there.
Or from a development standpoint, things are changing. So like
when I was coming out, like like there wasn't like
NBA development. It was like you got it or you don't.
And you had guys consistently playing sixteen seventeen year career.
So you know, as a young guy like you just

(27:51):
didn't get opportunity and a big reason was for that,
And let's educate right here. The NBA salary cap was different,
so I mean you had a veteran, a guy who
was an NBA veteran, his contract didn't count against the books,
against the salary cap, So you were incentivized to keep
older players on your roster. Now you're incentivized with the

(28:11):
two way contracts to get younger and keep younger players
on your roster, which helps out because you get more
looks at which player could be the next best thing.
Now you lose the veterans and the maturity in the
locker room, but you're not incentivized to keep the older
players the same way that you were in the past.
So I think there's a number of challenges that step
into the rules of saying, hey, if there's a player

(28:32):
Mike that that's dynamic, is he going to be worth
a rule change or give an opportunity for him to play.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And when you talk about the collegiate side, I mean,
certainly football we have the eye popping numbers that people
have resonated and put forth all the way through media NBIR.
For the college bucket side of it, I don't think
we get as much of hey, this player made X.
The only guy we really did that with was Cooper
Flagg a year ago. But I just think back to

(29:01):
the you know, national title chase for college football this year,
and you know, being asked, hey, what'd you do for classes?
And then you know your quarterback says, I haven't been
in class in two years. Right, So I mean there's
a little bit. The term we love is the mastardization
of things of you know, what is you know, college

(29:22):
sports at this point. But you know, as you said,
you can make some money, set yourself up a little bit,
and we remember we always have the battles within the
battles of the cbas right. You know, on the football side,
you used to be the number one pick. You got
that giant, novelty, novelty sized check like you just won
on a game show, and you had a bunch of
veterans going, I'm a ten year guy and I'm barely

(29:44):
grinding on, right, So you had a bit of a
shift as to the slotting and everything that went on
in terms of the draft for the NBA a little
bit the same in terms of the luxury tax and
how you know those are redjudicated, but the development of
these other certainly, you know, the death knell isn't hey,
I didn't get picked in the first round, right, because

(30:05):
outside of the first round, for those unaware, you don't
get any guaranteed money unless you're Brownie James.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
You know what you know?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Side note, you know it's funny the little context. So
before the before the games, I get my notes and
I like to just kind of go over my notes.
So we have some fun we have, like like we
play some trivia, and you know, I was the fiftieth
pick in the NBA draft, played ten years and like
I look back and I look at all we look
at all these rosters and I'll go, hey, this guy
is the first round pick. And it's like it's so

(30:34):
rare now that you even see teams with second round
picks on their team. All these guys are first round picks,
and I just think how how rare it is, even
like you just mentioned, just to be in the NBA,
like it's it's darn near impossible.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Well, that's why we're going to celebrate one of the undrafted.
You mentioned Luca on one end. Now this teammate of
the Lakers are different. No, no, no, we'll do Lebron
with with the different. But let's go to Isaac Low
and Crown. Now get an update of everything that's trending
in our sporting universe.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
What's up by Low, Hey, thank you, Mike, we meet again, Holand.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Hey Holline.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
We could have used you and Michael Frank yesterday against Perdue.
We were minus eleven on the board. Anyway, Elsewhere at
college basketball, we've got the IVY League Tournament championship game
going on right now, and Penn has just gone up
thirty four to thirty over one seed Yale. They have
three minutes and forty four seconds left to play in

(31:36):
the first half. On Saturday Night, Number one Duke what
It's second straight ACCED Tournament, beating tenth rank Virginia seventy
four to seventy. Number two Arizona won the Big Twelfth
Tournament over fifth ranked Houston seventy nine to seventy four.
California Baptist going to the NCAA Tournament for the first
time ever. They won the Whack championship game over Utah
Valley sixty three sixty one. Hawaii won the Big West

(31:57):
over UC Irvine seventy one sixty four. NBA Saturday Night
Lakers over Denver in overtime one twenty seven one twenty five,
Luka Doncic to the game winning jumper with point five
to play. Finally, Mike and Ryan. In the quarterfinals of
the World Baseball Classic on Saturday night, Venezuela eliminated defending
champion Japan eight to five.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Here is how will your abra us go ahead?

Speaker 7 (32:21):
Three run home run for Venezuela sounded in Spanish on
Fox Deportes.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Hardnecho except way sin despellia, seguilla Velo, Pramo, Cartres, Carrera,
tanto la vintaja. I'ven isuela cette Carrera, Sasenko.

Speaker 7 (32:45):
Thing Jack abayo, Yeah, come io back to you guys.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know Ryan Ilo was mouthing along that entire call,
and he threw a pen in the air as high
to bring you through his back estimated.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
He was so jacked up about it, no question about
it now looking at the history of fiftieth picks, but
thank you Ilo. We'll hear if you again as we
roll through. And not a lot of guys with playing
time in coming out of those fifty picks. I think
Niang is the one guy that stands out in the years.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Hence how many, how many how many fiftieth picks got
ten years? I'm interested, man, I gotta final, I gotta
find some angle for myself.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Right, No, that's good.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I like that you become one of the things as
you get introduced. Well, we'll do the research on that
and see if we can find that answer. I'm also
thinking back. I've been sorting some trading cards and I
have my little personal box guys i've had the opportunity
to work with. I found one of your rookie cards.
As you're standing there looking half between smolder like your

(33:54):
Flynn Ryder entangled. There you go, all you people with
your your kids going through your princess movies or trying
to say I'm gonna kick your butt. I'm not quite
sure what the look is, but it's the folded arms
and kind of looking ahead, sir.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think I know it's exactly what you're talking about too.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
No, I'll send it to you when when I get
home later and see if we confirm that.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
All right, we'll talk about the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Austin Reeves, heroics, Lebron diving on the floor, all of
this and chaos setting up for Luka Doncicz the Lakers.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
How dangerous are they? We'll talk about it next year
on Fox.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday by
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(34:52):
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about the Western conferences. We've gotten things rolling this morning, Ryan,

(35:35):
and Well, a big win for the Lakers last night,
led by one of the heady plays of a rising star.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
Reads puts it up play for Breads.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
NBA on NBC. You get Mike Breen on the call
on ABC. Yeah, as we talk about the the big
Saturday night affair, and well that's that's part, that's the preamble.
We got overtime, we got free basketball, and then we
get this.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
Reeves to stcher chones on him.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Here's the double dotchach.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
On the drive, step back, what's.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
It up.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
On the seconds by two?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
There you go again, ABC on the call, and you
hear the crowd losing their mind. One, twenty seven, twenty five,
your final the Reeves play. You can practice that a million, uh,
in one times, Ryan Hollins, to get that proper return
off of the rim, well that's not happening, uh. But
you get the opportunity for the make and then eventually

(36:52):
Luca seals it. He had twenty. He finished with thirty
on the night, Reeves with thirty two. Lebron James finished
with seven. Dean and Rugburn after diving on the court
something j Jit Reddick and many others laugh going. We've
watched you for a long damn time, and I got
to think people are going through the archives to the
today to see if he's really ever done that before.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Man, Man, I gotta think about it. I mean, young
Lebron was a much better defender. He played the passing
lanes a lot. But going vertical for a ball, man,
I think it's a great sign for LA. Man, he's
locked in. And I think me and Lebron are the
same age are pretty darn close. And the problem is

(37:35):
not running. The problem's not jumping. The problem is stopping.
And when you dive out for a ball, the problem
is getting back up off the floor. So kudos to Lebron.
But you know, it shows how serious that he that
he's taking it, you know, and I know he's been
under He and Luke have been under a lot of
scrutiny for their defense in their husholds, So plays like

(37:55):
that LA definitely needs them.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, you always gotta have one in your back pocket. Everyone,
I laid out for that ball against the Nuggets. Yes, everybody,
shut up. He gave the fan of the game. And
you know a fan that was on the Jumbo trond
little kid losing his mind, you know, saying that was
inspiration for the victory. But for the Lakers, you know,
at forty two and twenty five, we've watched it night in,
night out again, Jason Smith and I during the week,

(38:20):
we watched all of these games in our window, and
the defensive.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Effort is there.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I laugh because I got Jason sitting next to me,
So I just keep yelling nixx yo when it comes
to defensive effort on a consistent basis. But it's the
the old fear of all right, here's a big win
against Denver, and over the last couple of weeks, they
beat the Knicks in a home date, you know, in
the early window a week ago, and they've had a

(38:49):
couple other wins, but overall, the forty two wins goes
back to what we started the hour with that you've
got that divide in the league between the good, the bad,
and the I really hope we get enough ping pong
balls for the number one spot. And for the Lakers,
they've beaten a lot of teams in those final categories.
But as we get ready for this final month of

(39:09):
the regular season, to see them stack a couple of
big wins to gut this one out, and Lebron's gonna
be polarizing. I mean, you can't be in the published
consciousness for this long without your level of lovers and detractors.
But this level of effort against the Nuggets team that's
finally getting healthy, pretty huge win for JJ Redicking company.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
It's a monster win and Denver's good. You know, I'm
not sure Peyton Watson played, but other than that, theyre'
as healthy as they've been all season long. To call
it yolkis is still unbelievable. So hats off to the
Lakers for owning Denver. They got Denver's numbers somehow, and
again it's a monster win. Even more so, you know,

(39:51):
Mike earlier in the show, what we talked about the
teams Houston, Denver, Minnesota. I think Phoenix is somewhere knocking
on the door. So all these game games and this
is the goal. Is everybody complained about tanking like you're
kind of getting early playoff previews. It's like many playoffs
that you're getting already. So they swept the series. I
am impressed.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Still waiting to see Watson back, hasn't played in a
while here, but otherwise, getting Aaron Gordon back, Look, the
tournament's going to be fun to watch. It's just a
question of the Lakers are winning these these ISO experiments
against Denver, but will they be felled as they have
been in the past when they've gone to series mode.
That's the curiosity, right what flips in that next run?

(40:34):
And for the Lakers, they're operating with zero depth right now.
They scored one hundred and forty two against the Bulls
the other night. They had five bench points in the
one twentive win. Last night they had eighteen. So a
lot on those starting five at the Ryan Hollins where
you find them on Twitter, catch them on all the
Houston Rockets broadcasts. But coming up as we continue here,

(40:58):
I find me over at Swallowdome. My just posted a
picture of that sweet card. We talk about the quest
for eighty three in the markets it's created.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
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Speaker 1 (41:10):
Welcome in an hour two of the program, fast paced,
cruising along here on a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Couple of games.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Still the role in the.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
College world, settling the conference championships, the IVY League, offen
pacing Big Ten, wrapping up and then we'll get into
the selection Sunday Show. Dan Byer Aaron Torres will have
that for you as the brackets are revealed and break
down some of those paths that roll through. We'll get
into one the curiosity of a schedule and whether it

(41:39):
can come back to bite you in a moment as
we roll in on Mike Harmon seven to eleven weeknights
here Fox Sports Radio alongside Jason Smith with me this Sunday,
my guy, Ryan Hollins at the Ryan Hollins ten years
in the National Basketball Association works for the Houston Rockets.
Went to ucla Arden supporter of Mick Cronin and his

(42:02):
ability to throw his own players out of games.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I get what's going on.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
It's that where we're going hard.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
No, no, no, no, look make it. Mackay deserved a
little dry mind for that one. But uh, you know
U c l A. Bruin has been an interesting season,
but they're dangerous day just but they lost a big
player in the Big Ten tournament UH to injury, which
may upset their fortunes. But Mick gives us a lot
of content. Ryan, So you know your alma mater UH

(42:31):
is certainly a gift to us in the evenings here
on Fox.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Uh. Here's my thing. Did Mick make a mistake? Yeah,
he came out and apologized. That was big of him.
I didn't think he'd do that, but he apologized. And
you know, my thing is Mick is made for March.
His coaching ain't everybody's cup of tea?

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (42:51):
In?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Uh? For for you know, the regular the regular season,
but in March, when it's winning time, mixed teams, they
play their best and because it's it's a game of toughness,
the excuses go out the window, and the camaraderie is there.
So I fully expect UCLA to be in the tournament
where they land, I'm not sure, but I think they've
proven beyond a shadow of doubt. And this is a

(43:14):
large reason why you go over to the Big ten,
because now you have a chance to get some national wins.
You get a chance to get that RPI up by
getting monster wins against Illinois, making noise it now. And
when you get those wins and later on to the
tournament committee, you get a chance to be in the
tournament where if the strut, the schedule, or the conference

(43:35):
wasn't that strong, you're not gonna get the same respect
for those wins. So hats off to UCLA that definitely
deserve to be a tournament team. Mick Cronin has has
shown his worth and it's always fun to see UCLA streaking.
It's a great national story. Team. Teams and everybody get
behind the Bruins and we've seen.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
It well, it would be fun. You know.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
He's one of those guys that always gives us a
good quote and then you have to decide which side
of the fence you stand on. Some of his comments
when he starts complaining about travel, it's like, you, guys,
your school chose to go to.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
The Big Ten. You didn't, You didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
You can also quit and leave that money on the
table and go somewhere else. But here they are ready
to roll and we'll get the full bracketology later on
and all of the ins and outs and chaos. Who
got some rumors of some college coaching hires in the offing,
but one of the games from yesterday, I want to
bring this in, you know, as a big man working
around the low post, not necessarily hanging out at the

(44:32):
three point line like a lot of these guys do. Now, Ryan,
we talk about a different age of basketball. But we
had the California Baptist Lancers and the Utah Valley Wolverines.
And here's how this game came to an end.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Running to his left screen by Davis Linhardt driving to
the goal of floater short.

Speaker 7 (44:49):
Davis tap best to put back dog.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Lancers have it. The Lancers are.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
The Western Athletic Conference champions. You almost can't believe it.

Speaker 8 (44:59):
Isaac Day was wide open and he missed the dunk,
and the lanswers are celebrating.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, he rolled to the bucket and missed the dunk.
Ryan Isaac Davis five or fourteen from the field, twelve points.
But the guy executed the move perfectly. Davis rolled to
the basket perfectly and then couldn't get the flush. Any
big memories of a flush maybe you didn't make or

(45:27):
one that got put on you.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
I'll tell you one thing pressured us. Two things that
either burst pipes or it creates diamonds. My first year,
we sent records at UCLA for losses. Second year we
lost in the I think like the conference tournament. We
would have had to win out to have a chance.
Third year, we made the tournament, lost in the first round.
Senior year, we went to the championship. Now, for myself,

(45:53):
I didn't play a major part in those losses, but
I made sure that when we went on a run,
I was a part of those wins. You remember moments
like that and they just stick with you like forever,
and then you got to sit with them and think
about it. So you hate to see someone that you
made a mistake like that. But those big games and

(46:14):
why we love March so much, It just comes down
to nerves. It comes down to who's ready, and you
get battle tester through your conference tournament. You get battle
tester through the end of conference play, and it's stuff
because unlike the NBA college you play about, I think
these guys played normally play about two games a week,
so you know everything your opponent is gonna do. When
you beat a guy beat a team in conference twice,

(46:37):
they know what you're doing. You know what they're doing,
you know the roster, they know your moves, they know
everything about you. So these James just end up being special.
And there's something about as a young athlete, as your
college career come down to an end and you're like
this is it? Like you're like this is my last game.
The memories on campus coming in the work you put

(46:59):
in the way room, all the like, like you're like,
this is it. So you're seeing these guys play for
their lives and you know it's funny. I was just
wondering this the other day and I'm like, from a
scientific aspect, what is it coming to play for some people?
And you see it so much in March, Like what
does the brain do in this fight or flight mode
where you see and we're seeing a lot of them,

(47:20):
Mike you talked about earlier. We're seeing a lot of
them where you see people hitting these buzzer beater shots
and like what like like how hard is that? And
you have certain guys you can tell the way they're dribbling,
the way the ball left their hand, their energy, but
you're like that SHOT's going in. If he gets a
look at a three, the three is going in. So
it's it's a it's a really cool unique time that

(47:44):
is it's it's authentic to the NCAA tournament. It's authentic
to March that you cannot replicate and you can't see
it anywhere, but it's something about, uh, you got to
cheer for someone playing with their with their life on
the line in anything any and we get to see
it in the game of basketball.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I always marvel, right, just the ability to slow things
down and depending on the job that you have, you
have those pressure moments right where things come together or
like for us, like a much different animal here working
on radio, trying to break down subjects. But every once
in a while there's just that convergence of circumstance and story.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
You've got to take it.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
It's like, how do we make it accessible and make
it make sense? So you have that your personal lives,
whatever else, But like that ability to just drown out
all the noise right. Cinematically, it was done probably best
in the movie For Love of the Game, Kevin Costner,
the aging pitcher and and he's throwing a perfect game.

(48:43):
It's narrated by Vin Scully. So baseball fans, if you
haven't seen that one, go back in the way back.
John c Riley is his catcher for the Detroit Tigers.
But he had this whole thing of clearing the mechanism. Right,
there's the fans cheering, there's everybody chattering, guys razing them
mouth the bass path, you know, you know, all all around,
right that the first base coach is yelling at him

(49:05):
from over there and you're getting into his wind up
and the next pitch of all right, that's it. Clear
the mechanism and isolating, and I got to imagine everybody's
got their version of that, and we're watching it on
displaying these big moments like we did the other night
when bam Adebayo went for his eighty three point game
against the Washington Wizards. And I'll be honest with you, Ryan,

(49:28):
as Smith and I were watching it live, I held
two thoughts and they ran parallel to each other, like,
this is pretty cool that a guy's getting to run
to this point, right, This is we don't see it.
Oftentimes guys will have a good first three quarters and
if they're with teams winning in a blowout, they sit down.
The Miami Heat are a playoff viable squad. Maybe not

(49:51):
the sexiest pick, maybe not a front running squad, but
if healthy, Like once we get into the second season,
chaos happens, we see it. And bam Adebayowa a long
celebrated player for his defense and you know, just all
round work, but certainly not known as a score. So
twenty point scorer on his career, and here he is

(50:12):
after thirty one in the first and rising through that
as Smith and I are watching it and we're looking
at each other, and you know, he's starting to get
pumped up, and I'm looking at it, going, this is fun.
Let's see what happens in the fourth. And then it
stopped resembling the free flow of what we want esthetically
in a basketball game, and for a lot of box
score readers immediately went to the forty three foll attempts.

(50:35):
It's not that he had forty three follo attempts, it's
kind of how we got to that number. And watching
it live, it was the in the moment of is
it not that it didn't feel right, It's like it
just wasn't It tempered some of my excitement and enthusiasm
for the register going up right for folks that were
just getting the update on their phones, like, hey, you
scored again. Cool, and they're kind of paying attention but

(50:56):
watching it as it bogged down, and with the different
strategies of following, you're extending a game a little bit differently.
Normally we put guys to the foul line because we
think we can still come down, hit a three, get
a steal, and make a bucket to win the game.
In this case, it just began a prolonged effort.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
There. I don't hate it.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Man, Look again, if you're gonna play, it's kind of
like all year it's complaining about tanking and then questioning
why Jason Tatum's trying to fight back to play and
should he coming off that injury, Like no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Guy wants to play basketball. Guy wants to score.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I'm in fact, yeah, yeah, Here my two thoughts, and
we've been kind of building up to this. First and foremost,
my major problem comes from the Washington Wizards. And we
talked earlier about how do you get rid of tanking?

(51:48):
To me, this is how you get rid of tanking.
When you see these teams on your roster, on your
schedule and you have a chance do what the heat did,
blow them out the water. And I'm sure there is irritation.
I'm sure there is frustration. I'm sure now there's probably

(52:09):
some bad blood with Miami. If you're Washington, we man,
you left them in the game. You didn't have to
do it. Yes, stop tanking, Yes I did. Now I'm
gonna give you context into the eighty three. If we
remember earlier in the season, the challenge was tanking, right
and the Miami Heat, who they lose to. They lost
to the Utah Jazz, who were supposed to be a

(52:32):
tanking team, right right right make and that was a
big embarrassing thing. So Spoe goes before the game pulls
Bam in that office at Bam, let it rip, no excuses.
Don't play down here, and look, my rockets are guilty
of it two playing down we lost. The guys lost
to Utah also, okay, and and and go out and

(52:52):
compete because they're trying to get contracts. These guys are
These guys are playing hard. You know they're not quitting
on the other sid And I don't care who it is.
You get to a close game, anything can happen, and
you just don't have the swagger and the juju going
on that day, right, So the frustration goes Washington. Put
your guys out there, Washington, give a credible team and

(53:16):
stop throwing these games, and you won't get eighty three
hung on your head now. Relationship, I know, Bam out
of bio. This isn't a surprise. Juwan Howard years ago
when he first got there. Hassan Whiteside got the Monster contract.
It was his team and he goes, yeah, but Bam

(53:36):
out of Bias. Are you sure about him? He said,
Bam out of Baio's the guy. Juwan Howard let me
know how great Bam out of Bayo was and we
saw it on display, and he's the heart and soul.
This guy is so selfless, he said, screens, he rolles
the room, he does whatever, spoll in the heat and
roles and those guys asking him so, I couldn't be happier.

(53:59):
And I think it should be a roll of thumb, Mike.
I want to know how you feel about this. If
a players hot and so you mentioned he was hot
and he was rolling, and he gets there, let him
go for it, let him go for it, Let him
go and try to win these games and see how
much he can get. And then after that no more.
He got his numbers. It's something you can never take back,

(54:21):
for instance, in high school. Right, it's not that fire
I got a date back. I didn't.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I don't think I had a Glory Days soundtrack.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I mean what song is when you roll back to
Ryan Holland's highlight Highlights from high school and stuff like
what songs in your head.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
We came out to Rottwiler, who was a method man
of Redman right, Rotthwaller right, and we played that song
and I had thirty five and three quarters. I did
miss a shot. I was red hot, and my coach
sat me down for the whole four quarter, you know,
and ethically as he should. But I go, coach, let
me go get fifty. Let me go see what I

(54:58):
could have done, you know, because it would have It's
been something that I'd have been able to hang my
head on for the rest of my career, the rest
of my life. You don't realize these guys have that.
And Earl Watson did that for Devin Booker before Devin
Booker was really Devin Booker. He had seventy three I think,
I almost want to say against Boston, and it gave
Devin Booker confidence to say and it was a national story. Man.

(55:20):
His sons weren't going anywhere in Eura Watson neew. But
it gave Devin Booker the confidence to say, I'm one
of these guys, okay, and he approached the game as such.
So I think for bam Oudebio, like you walk around
with a S on your chest after that, nobody could
say nothing to you. And I think for these players,
if you get that one moment, that one game, Mike,
am I wrong? Let your guy go for it. No.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I love that they were unapologetic, right, I'm Friday, you know,
or as the week went on, you know, the the
defiance of it, Smoles drawn. I think it was Friday
had his you know, I'm apologizing to nobody. We joked
about the Connor McGregor reference in that regard bam Adebio
doing his p The is like I was playing, well,

(56:02):
I mean, who's coming out with nine minutes left? And
the points that you're putting up Now that the heat
will see the Wizards two more times, whether they'll actually
play any of the guys that are supposed to be starters,
which is a whole other thing going on there, right,
because all those guys were in street clothes. I think
it was about five hundred million dollars in suits on
the sidelines there for the Wizards for this last game.

(56:26):
But it's just that, right, if you had that opportunity,
you don't know if it's coming up again, right, it's
the Kobe Bryant eighty one that everybody decided to lionize
at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
You know, they won that game.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
By eighteen going away in the fourth quart right like
there was not a close game any longer. It was
through three quarters, and then they blew the doors off
from late. So you know, it's just all a matter
of perspective as you go. I was showing Shay, you
know me and my love of the cards and memorabilia.
I put up that Ryan Hollins trading card.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Did you tweet it or would I tweeted it?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Out at Swollen Dome. It's up there.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
You're tagged in it, So folks want to decide whether
it's hard guy or Hollywood leading Man smolder guy mode.
In that photo the upper deck, I think that's the
SBX card from his rookie year. But you know, the
Heat have celebrated. They came right back with an eighty
three dollars jersey, eighty three cent food specials, all of

(57:25):
those things. After the big performance, he followed up with
the twenty one point effort in a win over the
Milwaukee Bucks for seventh straight win. He was six to
twenty from the floor in that one. But they did
some things they're creating the eighty three throwback jersey, but
you could have gotten an eighty three cent popcorn, chips
or soda for at least one day. Nobody's complaining about prices.

(57:47):
Maybe other teams look into this and find their wins
with an opportunity. And there was an eight dollars thirty
cent meal deal Ryan a hot dog, popcorn and fountain drink.
But I was showing Shay as well. There was a
Darren ravel in the memorabilia circuit. Someone had a what
looked to be a coffee or bourbon stained ticket. Stuff
from Wilt Chamberlain's hundred point game certified authentic thirty five

(58:13):
thousand dollars. Wow, Wow, there you go. So any of
the stuff you got in your trunks, you know, we
need to go through and figure out what the the
logistics were on those particular games, to see if you
don't have a fortune in your attic.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Hey, hey, Mike, I want to throw this to you too.
So obviously let's keep context. We're not going to compare
it with the Kobe game. Okay, So Kobe's game, these
are two different games, okay, And I don't think anybody's
challenging that now and it's just like weird, did people
get so up in arms and everything needs to be
compared to the great Kobe Bryant who's not here. Okay,
you don't need to compare. Everything is not about Kobe. Well,

(58:50):
love and respect them, there's no question there. But I
wonder what was the competition, like when Chamberlain went for
one hundred.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Well, but that's I will normally just gets pushed off
to the side in all conversations anyway though, right like
usually it's you against Bill Russell, but everything else didn't
count based on the players.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
And but he doesn't get he doesn't get true true,
but he doesn't get challenged. I mean, there was just
like a weird uproar and and I get it. They
started failing and if you see Bamata Bayo tells his
teammates stop fouling, you know, don't don't do it. You know,
don't do that. And I think it's just a lot
of people don't watch basketball, don't know bam at A Bayo,

(59:33):
or don't have a respect for his game. I think
it's just it's it's a it's disappointing man, just because
a player doesn't do something, doesn't mean that they can't.
And you know, in fairness my scrutiny of Bam out
of Bio, I thought, I thought he let guys off
the hook a lot. Man. I thought, offensively, he's always
had this. You know, I'd be lying if I said
he always had eighty three. I don't want to throw

(59:55):
up like one of those comments. Sure, sure, I felt
like he could always have been more rest of offensively
because he's that skilled and people forget you remember this,
Mike bam Mataba won this skills competition an NBA All
Star one year, right, Okay, So like like this guy
is not a just a just a stationary, you know,
banger defender, Like he's incredibly skilled in Miami, knows exactly

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what they have and out of.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Bio and in that day they got it all and
then some, and it reverberates. Hey, how about these kind
of events and whether we see more or less of them.
Steve Kerr has an immodest proposal of what the NBA
should do to combat some of what we're talking about
down the stretch. He's Ryan Hollins on Buy Garment. This
is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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(01:01:20):
seven point lead midway through the first we got Arkansas
four point lead on Vandy, and Yale's got a three
point lead on Penn coming up final eight minutes of
that one. So much going on as we get ready
for the beginning of March Madness. I think I owe
somebody seven dollars just by saying that, but we'll figure

(01:01:41):
that out in the wash. All of your analysis as
the brackets are unveiled later on today here on Fox
Sports Radio, as well as some of the would be
first in, first out or last out kind of snubs
and everything else. But I'd be remiss if we didn't
tie a bow on this because it ties right to
our next story here. Ryan Hollins says Steve Kerr had

(01:02:02):
some thoughts earlier this week in terms of tanking and
the league year and all of those things. And you
know what, in nineteen eighty eight, he was the fiftieth
pick of the NBA draft.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Are you gonna beat me to it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
What's that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
You're gonna beat me to it? Aren't you? No? No, finish,
finish your thought.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Georgi Yang Okay, DeAndre Liggans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Twenty eleven Orlando Magic played one hundred and seventy seven games,
but he won two G League Defensive Players of the
Year of the Year award.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
And then there's you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Well, here's the deal, and me and Steve and I
assume Nie Yang will be the next are the only
two to play ten years? There you go, yeah, look,
next time I see him, I have a talking point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
See Georgia, George should be in year ten now, So
there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
It's okay, So he's not. It's well, I guess it
kind of counts, is it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
Ten?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Now for George twenty sixteen. Oh gosh, the Indiana Pezers.
So here we go. All right, Well, Steve Kerr chimed in,
as so many of us have see there, I made
you you feel older because George is a decade into
the league. That's what we do, though, like when we
start putting context on it. Remember fresh face you honest, Yeah,
he's in your fourteen all of that stuff. But Steve

(01:03:25):
Kerr earlier this week talking about where the league schedule is,
You've got Steph Curry still trying to come back from
injury and all.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Of those things. Here, he chimed in.

Speaker 10 (01:03:34):
I know this will not be a popular opinion in
the league office, but I will continue to say it
because it's obvious we need to play fewer games. We
need to take ten games off the schedule. I think
it would be great for the league. And I get it,
it's revenue and you'd have to get everybody to agree
to take a little less money, and that's a really

(01:03:57):
hard thing to do. But what I know about the league,
about coaching, about how hard it is to play the
modern game with the pace and the space, I think
it would be a more competitive and healthier league.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
If we played few games.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Meanwhile, let's add a couple of teams. No, but when
he talks about it taking a little less money, that's
a lot of revenue, particularly with where we're at in
this current marketplace. Ryan, Right, they just did a bunch
of these television deals, and there's always reups and reconstitutions
and the next window that you want to do. We're

(01:04:32):
watching with the NFL left and right, where we're going
to play football six days a week before it's all
said and done. Tuesday, I think will be the become
a sacred day on the calendar where it's just sit
and watch some film. But for the NBA, ten games
per team, we're talking billions of that revenue going right
back out the door, and the players getting the amount

(01:04:56):
that they do of that, which I think gets lost, like, yeah,
there's always the one a little more. As players are
the product, they do get about fifty percent of things.
So when you start shaving off that amount of money,
that really adds up fast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
I'm really disappointed by hearing this. I couldn't have heard
of Morey and I got a lot of respect for
Steve Kurr. There's no question you can't take away from
what he's done as a player and as a coach.
But I'm so disappointed you talk about moving the goalpost.
He refused to play Jonathan Kaminga. Whatever happened, however, got personal,

(01:05:34):
whatever it went, he refused to play Jonathan Kaminga. It's
tough time getting moody on the floor. The reason I
bring that up, these are the guys that get you
healthy through the season, your youth. Steve Kerr refuses to
coach youth. He refuses to develop youth. So yeah, for

(01:05:56):
your older players, for Draymond, for Stafford, these guys, we're
missing games. And now you become so dominant on your
starting lineup, so dominant on your your your your your
top seven, your top eight. You're gonna get injuries and
there's no there's no backup plan, there's no b playing,
there's no seed plan because you don't develop get with
the times as a front office, as a as as

(01:06:20):
a general manager, as is executives. You have to prepare
for this. Don't ask for time off, and I get it.
You got Steph Curry. You want to maximize that. I
don't want to play Steph Curry forty minutes if I
could too. But if you if you value your development
and your young player and the way that the league
is being played with pace and space and youth, you're

(01:06:43):
gonna have to go ten eleven deep to keep guys
fresh through the season. And if there is an injury,
then you do have a B and a C plan
prepared to go. And hats off and and and for
kerr Hey, he'll he'll play a guy undrafted playing minutes.
You got to fit in his style of play. Our
respect that, I understand that, but this is just saying

(01:07:03):
Steph is older, Dre is older, and these are the
guys that I want to play minutes, and I don't
want to go and be resourceful and find someone who
can give me a level of production. And oh hell,
we got rid of Jordan Poole. That was our other
youth movement. We just traded them away to the Wizards.
So like that is disappointing to hear, because I tell

(01:07:27):
you one thing, you don't want to be losing ten
percent of your check or whatever percent of your check.
Look look from the regional side, Mike, when we don't
have these games. And this new big deal was made
and it was great for the league, guess what, we
lost a lot of money about fourteen to fifteen games lost.
That's money gone. Those are game checks gone. Like, come on, coach, like,

(01:07:49):
you gotta be better than this. And I understand you're
gonna you're fighting for any tactical advantage that you have
during the season at what you have, but you've got
to be more rest of which you're coaching. And Golden
State is arguably, in my opinion, the best with Kevin Durant,
that is the best basketball team that's ever touched the floor. Now,
you got to be able to move on from that,

(01:08:10):
you know, and easier said than done, but you know,
don't move the goldposts and ask for less games. It's
just disappointing to hear. And again it's it's a young
man's game. Well, I think it is. At the end
of the day. You got to develop Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Well and that's you know, going to one of the
big themes for the show for the two hours is
just talking about the developmental process, right, talking about those
guys one and done or whatever. The college slash pro
experience globally becomes the G League as a more developmental force.
But calling it back to Jordan Poole a big deal, right,

(01:08:44):
because when we talk about college buckets, how many guys
bailed coaches saying I can't coach in this new world, right,
the new nil and the changing face of college athletics
because they always were able to make the rules right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It was the coach. It was one hundred percent at them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Now players having more equity and more say and you
go back, and some will say it's Lebron James fault
for when the heatals exist and decide where you're at
in that time continuum.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
But you're not unringing the bell, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
And for the NBA in this style of pace and
everything else, not being able to develop younger players. Yeah,
eventually you run out of the superstars. They run out
of their time. For Jordan Poole, he gets excise because
Draymond Green punched them in the head and they can't coexist. Instead,
so that's a guy that would have eaten minutes. And

(01:09:35):
he loves to shoot, so he would have eaten a
lot of shots for you too. Instead, you move on.
I don't know what Jonathan Kaminga will be, but that's
always he's for three years we've been wondering behind the scenes.
What's the reality of that dynamic, that scenario in terms
of his ability, aptitude or just Steve Kerr not wanting

(01:09:55):
to move into that next phase.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Well, and here's here's my opinion. I don't know anything.
At a certain point it got personal. I don't know why,
but I assume that by the family room comments. But
Steve Kurr is big on you know, like IQ in players, movement,
team ball, set a screen cut, set a screen move
you know, read the screen. How's a guy playing? Has you?

(01:10:20):
You know in it? All fair? Is like Comenia got
the ball and it was go time, like it was
it was time to bookie. But the challenge is, okay,
it's not working, you know, let him move on. And
when you go on draft players have that communication between
Kurt and the front office where hey, you're you're drafting
his style of guy. So going Kerr like, this is
the guy you wanted. You know, clearly he wasn't on

(01:10:42):
board with kaminga, you know, and it showed, and you
know it is what it is. It's just part of
professional sports. It's spilled milk at that point in time.
But hey, you know, you got to lock in on drafting.
You know you gotta you gotta have your hand in
a cookie jar when it comes to things, uh, things
like that. And I'm sure Golden State will be more
wise moving forward. But I just think that comment. You know,
it's disappointed when I get it. You want every effort there,

(01:11:04):
but man, you you take it? Man, ain't. I don't
know about you, Mike, I don't. I really don't like
giving money back. That's funny, because hey, I really don't
like what missing work. Hey man, you spoke about that.
We're like, hey, Scott, how many more shifts you got
for us? We'll sleep at the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I got no problem, wake me up. I just need
cat naps, cat naps and pre coffee. That's that's how
you get the end of the studio.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Actually, got an emergency, Mike, you want another shift?

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yes, I can be there in twenty minutes. Actually, I
have my machine on me. I've embedded it in my brain,
so I just need to hit the on switch at
the Ryan Hollins where you find them in the Twitter verse.
Find me over at Swollen Dome. Now for an update
on all these conference title games, the world at large,
your nemesis, It's Isaac blowing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
A rivalry renewed. Indeed, all right, we will start with
the SEC Championship game, where right now Arkansas and Vanderbilt.
Arkansas is just taking a twenty five to twenty three
lead with five twenty eight left to play in the
first half. But one story that has been trending out
of this tournament this weekend the presence of a substitute

(01:12:14):
freshman guard on Vanderbilt. He was actually trending across Twitter
yesterday because of his name, Chandler Bing, who claims that
he has never seen an episode of Friends and also
claimed that his parents did not name him Chandler for
any connection with the show Friends or the character, of course,

(01:12:37):
played by the late Matthew Perry. Chandler Bing. However, it
turns out to be a distant cousin of former NBA
All Star and one time mayor of Detroit Dave Bing.
By the way, so again that's a name to focus
on for the rest of March. We've got the IVY
League Tournament championship game going on right now, Yale holding

(01:12:57):
a sixty five sixty three lead over pen They have
five minutes and twenty one seconds remaining in the second half,
and in the Atlantic ten Tournament Championship game vcu IS
of twenty eight to nineteen over Dayton with five and
a half minutes remaining in the first half. Now late
on Saturday night, Hawaii won the Big West Tournament over

(01:13:19):
UC Irvine seventy one to sixty four, California Baptist, going
to the NCAA Tournament for the first time in program history.
As on Saturday night, they defeated Utah Valley in the
WHAC Championship game sixty three to sixty one. On Saturday night,
in the quarterfinals of the World Baseball Classic, Venezuela eliminated

(01:13:39):
defending champion Japan eight to five. Coming up at tonight
at eight Eastern times, the semi final round begins between
Team USA and the Dominican Republic.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Mike and Ryan, back to you, the man, the legend,
the myth himself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
It's Isaac Lowing gron At Isaac Loewinggron, Angels CITYFC now
Los Angeles charge. I keep want to call him San
Diego because they keep putting all these throwback cards in
these products. Now, Ryan Hollinds, so san Diego on the
brain at eesa glowing ground where you find him on
Twitter Hey, coming up, there's a state that wants to

(01:14:13):
take a lot of players' money and they just pass
something in one part of their legislature. We'll see if
it passes muster overall. But I'm sure you'll have some
thoughts on this one, mister Hollins. A little bit of
college buckets and the Oscars are tonight. I gotta imagine
in your travels you watch the movies. We'll talk all
about that next. As we finish up here on Fox
Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Right after we get off the air.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Appreciate y'all giving us a few minutes of your time
the late morning, early afternoon, wherever you're out and about
on a Sunday, Go make it your best the goal
for all of us. Let's go one to know. We
got a good start just by answering the bell this morning,
so let's go finish the job. Plenty of college buckets
talk as the day goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Steven v.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Jail get your rolling into Dan and Aaron a little
bit later on with all of that. As the brackets
are unveiled. Monte Bolanos will be over at the news
desk with the developing story coming out of college basketball,
readying for the World Baseball Classic and everything else. Now
I mentioned Steve Kerr wants to take your money. You know,
people in the state of Washington, they want to do

(01:16:10):
that now to Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Oh No.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Lawmakers in Washington State this week approved the new income
tax on residents that make more than a million dollars
nine point nine percent. Currently no state income tax there.
John Schneider addressed it as Seattle got into free agency
mode in the NFL this week of Hey, it's it's
a consideration now, you know, it hasn't had to be

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and now, all of a sudden, if this comes into play,
we might lose a guy or two here and there
because you talk about losing ten percent of your cash.
Much different consideration here in the state of California. Your
top tax bracket thirteen percent.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, that that's tough. And you know you think about
the Seahawks and Seattle top the list the NBA as
far as the expansions yet in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Now that's it, right, So all of a sudden, it's like,
wait a minute, Wait a minute. Yeah, we want a
team to go back, but you might have a couple
of guys going, wait, I'm gonna have to cut off
if I'm a max player. I mean, that's thirty million dollars.
That's a nice row of homes you can own in
any town USA. Again, different problems than the rest of
the world, but still a consideration as your team tries

(01:17:23):
to build towards the next So we'll keep an eye
on that as we go. See, I just got to
tie all our bows together here in the final minutes
March Madness. A little later, a lot of the heavyweights
are back up at the top of the board, right,
the blue bloods, the legacy teams, all of those things,
which is great for this selection Sunday as we're finishing
up these conference tournaments and getting into it. But curious

(01:17:46):
of your thoughts on Miami Ohio. Now they lost in
their conference tournament early, but thirty one and oh in
the regular season. But because of the Ken Palm rating
and the strength of schedule, they could be looking at
an outside look at you be left outside of that
proverbial bubble, looking there and sipping their Sodi's and eating

(01:18:09):
popcorn and watching everybody else have all the fun. There
was a Freedom of Information Act where they uncovered a
reporter did at least twenty schools that were contacted. Hey,
we'd love to play a conference and you know, a
non conference with you. No, no, no, we're good. So
you tried but didn't. And now that thirty one to
oher regular season record could leave them out of the dance.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's tough. And we spoke earlier about
UCLA and their struggles are going up and going down, Well,
guess what, they beat Michigan State, the teams that the
incidents against, you beat Illinois twice and you get some
major wins there, and they say it wasn't a perfect season,
but now you should have strongly made a push to

(01:18:54):
put yourself in the NCAA tournament. You had to play
some type of competition. You gotta play some competition or else.
This is gonna be a season that you go down
with frustrations with now. I mean, I'd have no problem
them getting in at the end of the day or
putting them in the tournament when you won like that,
But it is tough when it comes back and you've

(01:19:17):
had teams within the runs say hey, come play as Hey,
we'll see if you really are that type of you
know that record, and then you know, I'm sure the
committee knows you turn the games down. So I understand
both sides. If I have my vote, i'd put them in.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Yeah, I think you got thirty seven at large bids.
You know, the worst is it's a good TV show,
which at the end, isn't that what the NCAA Tournament is.
I mean, it's an athletic competition. Don't get me wrong.
But you know that also trans translates to billions of
dollars of revenue and eyeballs watching the sport. Why not

(01:19:54):
have another story in your teleplay by leaving them out?
You know, that's a story line that never gets to
exist because it either goes one of two ways. They
go on a nice little run and it's hey, we
got them in and look at what these little guys
can do given a chance, or they get beaten and
you never have to open that door again, and you
put it up on the wall of hey, we tried.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
In your travels, do you guys watch a lot of movies?

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Yes and no. I mean I try to catch up
on sleep. I'll be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Well, look it's asked and answered.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
Yeah, because the Oscars later on tonight a lot about Hollywood,
Hollywood shut down, so out and about here in la
Hey be careful out there. But yeah, it's the I
watched a lot of the Best Picture contenders and there's
a lot of great individual performances, but I'm like that
movie got nominated for Best Picture?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
What am I missing? So I felt like I missed
something this year in the transition.

Speaker 3 (01:20:49):
By the way, they lost the UMass in the quarterfinals
thirty one one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
Well but it's one still, just a one big one
at the Ryan Hollins. Where you find them on Twitter,
find me over adswollen home thanks for having with us.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Steven vj are next

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
MHM

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