Monse Bolaños & Kerry Rhodes Talk NBA Playoff Refs/LeBron James, NFL Draft, Shedeur Sanders Prank Call, and So Much More!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Eh, what's up? Everybody? Happy Sunday. Welcome to Fox Sports Radio.
I am Montzevelanos alongside my friend and former All Pro
safety Carrie Roads, and here we are again. Carrie, so
much to talk about that we're gonna try and jam
it all in in these next three hours. Don't go anywhere.
We're gonna have a lot of fun. I don't think

(00:25):
the Pistons are having fun right now. We're gonna have
some fun, but I don't think the Pistons, the Detroit
fan base, or anybody maybe that like hates the Knicks
is having a good time. Because that game, well it was.
It was super eventful from beginning to end. Yes, I
mean the Knicks were on top at one point, very

(00:46):
early on, by double digits. It seemed like they were
having their way. But it is the Detroit Pistons. It
is Kate Cunningham, you know what I'm saying, Like nobody
that's that is our technical producer because perfet who is
a Pistons fan, so he's not having it. A really game,
a really eventful game that did not end the way

(01:09):
I think many of us thought it should have ended. Listen,
they the second half. Detroit came out swinging that third quarter.
I don't know the exact number, but they outscored them,
like twenty four to twelve, twenty eight to twelve, something
like that. That third quarter was the shift in change
in that game. And then we get to the fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
And a little bit earlier than that. So going down
at the end of the second quarter, they were down sixteen, Yes,
they went on the they went on an eleven to
two run, and that shifted the game. And they came
out third quarter with the same intensity, took over. Kay Cunningham,
started to get some buckets and started to get his confidence,
and then the three balls started the fall for Detroit

(01:48):
as well in the second half, which in the first
half it was abysmal.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
It was it was, and I'm glad you did bring
that up, because you're right. It was the second quarter
where they started to make the push, but they were
still down at halftime. Yeah, and then they they came
out in the third quarter and like they at one point,
I feel like we're up by nine times they were, right,
but then it's the Knicks who you have the mister
clutch Player of the Year, Jaylen Brunson obviously in Karl

(02:13):
Anthony Towns, so you only can expect that the fourth
quarter was gonna be a good one.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yeah, and it was.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It was a chippy a lot. There was a moment,
like you may have heard Martin Weiss in the updates
that you may got. You may have like gotten a
little nervous about Jaylen Brunson because he did go to
the locker room after missing the end of the regular
season with that ankle spring. I was a little bit nervous.
And then he came back out and then in the
fourth quarter he drove late in the fourth he drove

(02:40):
in for a layup and kind of stumbled, and I
was like, oh no, oh no. All of that made
me so uncomfortable to watch because you know he's on
you know, he's on something. He's in pain.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Oh, he's gotta be in pain. Juice in the back
and came back out in the fourth is that it was.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, they didn't change his shoes this time like that,
just a little juice juice. And so it's the fourth quarter,
very close, back and forth game, threes being hit by everyone,
including Carl Anthony Towns who hit a big three also,
and then it comes down to the final possession. Yes,
and Kate Cunningham, they're down by one. Kate Cunningham had
a clear look at a good shot at the top

(03:16):
of the key right or like around the free throw line.
Maybe clean shot did not go in. They get an
offensive rebound, they kick it out to the corner and
I think it was Hardaway, Timmy Hardaway that takes a
three in the corner, misses it as time expires, but
me miss it. But did he just miss it on

(03:36):
his own? No, gets clearly bumped by the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Do you remember was Josh Harp clearly bumps him?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
No questions asked after you saw the replay, Carrie, there
was a referee right there with his hand up to
indicate that it's a three. But you miss the bump.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's crazy about missing the bump and that I think
more than anything, it was just the positioning of the referee.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Those are a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Positioning, Right, he was on the baseline, so he's on
the opposite side of where the bump took place, so
he's seeing all this in real time. Yes, and obviously
we see it and it's clear, but Josh was literally
on his right shoulder and the referees on the left
side underneath the basket, so hard to tell. The other
thing is this playoffs, all of it has been officiated

(04:28):
to a point where they're letting all these all the
physicality ramp up. They're bumping each other, they're doing all
these certain things. The games are in the nineties, barely
cracking one hundred. It's been competitive, it's been tight, and
yes they make mistakes, but I think they've done a
good job of allowing that to happen.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
But if you're the Detroit Pistons.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
You've got to be mad.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You gotta be upset to the highest degree for not
getting that call in that moment.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And you know, it's never one play as to why
you lost the game. Absolutely, And if this call was
made at the into the first half, we're not talking
about it. But it's the very last play where they're
down by one. This is a three point shot that
Hardaway is taking and they could win the game three shots. Now,

(05:13):
I appreciate you kind of protecting the ref here a
little bit, because you're right. In live time, Josh Hart
did a really good As I watched it, Josh Hart
did a really good job of trying to get out
of the way, you know, and I thought he did
so in lifetime, I was like, he didn't foul him,
And then in slow motion I see it again and
I was like, oh no, he bumped the you know

(05:33):
what out of him. It was a nice little bumm.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Absolutely, But you make a point that maybe his angles
it's just positioning well, and you know, it's funny that
you say that. I don't know if you've ever read
Kobe Bryant's a Black Mamba book. It's amazing. In it,
he talks about how he read the referee handbook so
that he knows where he could get away with stuff,

(05:59):
Like he knew where and they were standing, so he
was like, this is where I can get away with
maybe pulling a jersey. This is where maybe I could
get away with the travel because he knew where they
were standing and what they were looking at because he
read the handbook that that was Kobe Bryant. That was
Kobe Bryant. Just so you guys know, it gets you
to know that. So maybe that's one of those positionings
where like, yes, it's kind of like a like a
like a what are the stand in the car? When

(06:20):
you have a a blind spot or like a blind
a blind spot. But is what happens now? Like is
that okay? Because they already came out, They already came
out and said that it was a foul. Do we
have sound on that? We do have sound on that.
Can we get that sound?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
So it's the sound of a This is JB.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Bickers stand Jay Bickerstreight, Lions coach, not the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
There's contact on Tim Hardaway's jump shot. You know, I
don't know any other way around it. There's contact on
his jump shot. The guy leaves his feet, he's at
Timmy's mercy, and I repeat, there's contact on on his
jump shot.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Fair, fair, and it is And you know what's great.
The other thing about it in that situation is Tim
had just hit two threes back to back too, So
if he would have had a clear.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Shot, there's a real chance that's going in.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Chances are he was going to make that one. So yeah,
it's tough, it's tough. It's a tough pill to swallow.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
So crew chief David Guthrie told a pool reporter that
the foul should have been called.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
And that's what I hate the most.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
About admitting that you must up.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Out of all of it, I hate that the most.
Who are you doing justice to for that? In that situation,
the game's over, the team's loss, they're down three to one.
Now you want to say I made a mistake at
this moment, No, we don't care.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
We already know.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You made a mistake. That's crystal clear. We don't need
your your reference. Go ahead, Martin. That's what you hate
the most. That's what I hate the most.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Actually, don't. I'm with carry Hold.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Not the egregious miss foul call.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
It's not agree and he acknowledged it after the fare
was tackled.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I'm that that's a fifteen we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Oh, don't feel sorry for the referee.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Referee carries over here doing this dance.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
The referee was over here in this corner. Read the
Mamba mentality. But no, be better referee. That's a tackle.

Speaker 8 (08:19):
And Tim Hardaway Junior, who had had a terrible game
up until like two minutes, he told me, look at
very least you want to talk about a game that
was decided by the players on and so for no,
put him on the line to see if he can
make two free throws to win it seriously because he.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Excited got hit. Like you know what I'm saying, like,
how many times have we seen it?

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Expect more in college basketball, but guys blowing big free
throws that cost the games, cost some series, cost them whatever.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
We were robbed it.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
That.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Don't bring that up, Martin, robbed it.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I still got I still got this this duke thing
going on in my head. Propped and missed the free
throw on the one in one.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
Don't do that. Don't do that's.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Fresh, it's fresh, I hear, Martin. I don't think it
was pass interference like you just called it. I don't
think it was that bad because I'm telling you in
live time, I really thought he did not fail him.
In live time. It wasn't until I saw the replay
and I was like, oh, he really bumped him. He did,
but Josh Hart sold it, tried to sell it. And

(09:16):
then I also feel like, if I'm the ref and
you just miss it, that that fraction of a second
you missed that bump, do you call it? And then
you're like, what if he didn't foul him? And then
I call him and this guy's about to take three
free throws.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Oooh, that's a good what's worse?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Honestly, what is the worst situation right there?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's crazy because in that situation in the old days,
if it was the benefit of the doubt, I'm sure
you wouldn't call it. Yeah, nowadays with the coach's challenge,
if the benefit of it, if the benefit of the
doubt was given to a team and you make that
call and they have a challenge, that's another different that's
a different story. So there's so many moving mechanics and

(09:55):
mechanisms to what this what could have happened in that situation,
But in that moment, both teams were out of challenges too,
So you just it's tough.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
It's really tough.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
And that's a good thing you bring up because of
Hartman and VG on the last show, we're talking about that.
I told them, I was like, you can't challenge a
non call, but I don't think they have challenges. So
you were right on that, Yeah, you can't challenge a
non call. So in that moment, even if he had
a challenge, yes, there wasn't anything to fight. And so
now when you put it in that perspective, it's almost like, no,

(10:25):
the ref should call that. And now I'm over here
wondering if maybe, if maybe the teams should have they
should just be given a challenge in the final minute
of a game, even if they're out.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm trying to think they don't. Well, you get an
extra one if you get it right.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
If you get it right, If not, you lose it
and you lose a time out.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
It's tough. It's tough because the thing is like, we've
opened the door now to challenges. If we wouldn't have
opened that door, then none of this matters. But now
that you're opening this door to a challenge, maybe that's
something that needs to be considered, because you're right, there
needs to first be a call and then you can
challenge it. But none of that was going on, and
this whole immediately coming out and saying like we're not stuck.

(11:06):
It's kind of like, well, the did you think we
didn't already know that? This doesn't make it any better
at all, but we're gonna keep Lately, we've been seeing
the like the reports from the NBA on the final
two minutes. This is what we missed. This is what
we didn't miss. It's just like when it comes down
obviously this It isn't always like this, when it's literally

(11:27):
the final play determines the outcome of the game. It's
not always like that, right. It's sometimes a call that
happens within the final minute on a Tide game, and
then you're like, oh, if that felt would have happened,
but other things happen. This literally was the end of
the game. And so you're sitting there like, how can
you miss such an obvious shot?

Speaker 3 (11:45):
What?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think it should be an obvious because your job
is to be the ref. Yeah, not my job at
work watching it from a screen, right.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And the whole thing that makes me upset when I
think about this topic in general, or that specific situation
in general, is we're talking about that instead of the game.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
It was a.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Beautiful game with a great It was physical, it was momentum,
swings once everything, competitiveness, great old time greats from both sides,
and attendance, rooting the guys on and Spike Lee doing
this thing, and like so many stories around it, and
you know, Carl it the town's having some struggles in
the third quarter, but in the fourth quarter making huge

(12:22):
shots like so much. And then now we're talking about
the ref missing the call. That's the part I hate
about it.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Carrie Rhodes, You're so right. Why did we talk about it?
That's what we should have been talking about this whole
time instead of that's what happens. Because that game was
exciting from beginning to end. Even though at one point
there was there was a double digit lead by the Knicks,
you never felt like the Pistons were out of it.
Because there you know.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
Why you guys have been talking about it, because you
guys are fans of justice.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
That's why, thank you, justice and what's right.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Thank you, We are fans of justice.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
You're right. We are. We are fans of justice, and
we agree that that was the wrong call and that
changes the outcome because if it's three shots, I'm gonna
assume he can make one and tie the game, because
that's the whole thing. It was like you were done
only one, so like likely we should have been going
into overtime, and actually likely the Clippers and the Nuggets

(13:12):
should have been going into overtime yesterday. But we're not
gonna talk about that just yet. We are gonna talk
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(13:34):
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Speaker 2 (13:53):
What's Up Everybody Heavy Sunday Fox Sports Radio. I am
Monty Belanyas alongside my buddy and former All Pro safety
Carrie Roads and our technical producer Chris Pourphet is playing
a little bit of corn. Yes, I'm going to explain
a little behind the scenes as to what is happening.
Right before the show, our producer Shay was heating up

(14:14):
some soup and he like asked carry as Shay, what
kind of soup are you having? And She's like, oh,
I don't know, some corn and some I don't know.
And then Carrie right away is like, oh no, I'm
not I'm not into that, and I was like really,
I I was like, say less and he's like, oh,
you hate corn too, and I was like, no, I
love corn. All I needed to hear was corn, and
I was into the soup. And so we got into

(14:35):
this conversation about corn. Apparently Carrie hates puppies and ice
cream and corn, and I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
You started naming every Cornish believing that he doesn't eat
anything with corn, corn coming down the street, corn cake.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
The thing all I think about when I think about
that is what notch brain.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
On real that you don't like corn?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
I was going to actually I was gonna probably try
to take Shay soup, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
That was part of my plan. That was my process.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
I'm like, I just I was ready to offer it
to you, and they need to corn chips.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
She lit no with corn and I was like, I
am done.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't want it right away, right instant, Like I've
never seen him turn something down so fast.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
But I think the important question here is do you
like the band Corn that we just played?

Speaker 3 (15:35):
They're they're so so come on, I don't like corn exactly.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Popcorn.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Who does it like corn?

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Now that's where Carrie's gonna lose me if he doesn't
like popcorn. Yeah, yeah, you got me. You like pop
popcorn at the movies, I will.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
I also feel like popcorn is I don't think if
popcorn is corn, even though I like Yeah, so Carrie,
Carrie Rhodes doesn't like corn, Mark Madina, are you there, Monty?

Speaker 9 (16:06):
I'm here. I like corn.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, Mark, get out of here, go bye.

Speaker 9 (16:12):
I was gonna say, Monty, I say this to a
suage any frustrations. I presume you're playing this partly to
rage over a last night's Clippers lost. But look, I'm
gonna throw this out here. I think Clippers are going
to win this series in six games. I think they'll
bounce back lots unpacked. But you know, I think last
night's game was an aberration.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
You know, I don't disagree with you. Mark. Also, I'm
glad you like corn makes me like you even more.

Speaker 10 (16:36):
Get it?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
You get it, Mark, I don't disagree that the Clippers
will win this series. What is annoying to me is
that it really seems like the Clippers maybe could have
swept the Nuggets and then gotten the rest that they
need against Okac, who's about to go on vacation for
a week. You know what I'm saying, That's what's annoying
about it.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
I know exactly what you're saying. And look, Monts, I
mean game one, it's a time game, it's competitive, it
can go either way. But game four, I thought the
Clippers should have been blowing the Denver Nuggets out. I
thought after Game three, where it looked like the Nuggets
were exhausted, the Clippers would start ratting the table. Kawhi Leonard,
James Harden, Norman Powell of Vitza Zubots, They're all playing

(17:17):
at a high level. Nikola Jokic is the only one
playing well with the Nuggets, but he's tired, you know.
Michael Porter Junior's dealing with injuries. Aaron Gord and Jamal
Murray have been up and down. But you know what,
the Nuggets are very resilient. And I know there's going
to be a lot as a Bruner film like analysis
on the pup back dunk and wasn't done before the

(17:37):
time expired. The reality is the Clippers lost this well
before it because it got all flat to open the
first part of the game, You're down by twenty points,
and it's just very unbecoming of the Clippers. This was
a team that was always competitive, always scrappy, always resilient.
And after Game three they talked about they're not going

(17:57):
to take this lightly. The Nuggets are the vending champs,
got Nikola Jokicic, They're going to be ready for Game four,
and there are anything but but I think lesson learned
for to you know, for what Monday or Tuesday against
Denver and Denver Tuesday and then they'll close it out
Thursday and l Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Mark, the think about, you know, letting these games go
that you should have won.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
It puts you in the buying right now.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
You're in a two to two series and now anything can,
anything can happen. Obviously, I think the Clippers are the
better team as well. But when you put yourselves in
these situations over and over again, this is what you know,
you tend to lose those losing those situations when it
matters come up small and I think James Harden needs
to be more aggressive early on in game five. What

(18:39):
do you think about that?

Speaker 9 (18:40):
Yeah, I think what you saw James Harden game three
is exactly what he needs to play. In game five,
he was attacking the basket, drawing fouls. He was doing
his three point shots, but he wasn't gaining the freeestrow
align with just planning or landing spots. It was because
he was aggressive at the rim, and he took a
back seat in game four. And I think you're on
the money. It's not so much, okay, Why can't they

(19:02):
have a perfect series and get this done early just
for the sake of it. It's more about the attrition effects.
The Oklahoma City Thunder, as Monson mentioned, have already eliminated Memphis.
They have a week off to prepare and rest, and
they have a fully loaded roster. I mean, I think
Shay Gilgi's axhander is gonna win MVP. They have Jyalen
Williams first time all start, why, great wing defenders, They

(19:26):
got a good front cord and shed home grin Isaiah Hartenstein.
So the Clippers need to check every single box to
give themselves a fighting chance, and by prolonging this series
that obviously significantly lessons their chances. But you know, it's
the NBA playoffs. Anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Mark am I wrong, but doesn't James Harden have a
history of not playing well in a game five series?
Am I crazy? Do I make that up for?

Speaker 9 (19:54):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Okay? Thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
Here here is the thing that should be different. He
would wear down in the playoffs some previous seasons because
he was carrying such a heavy workload and that was
catching up to him. Now. He definitely had to do
that to begin the season when Kawhi Leonard missed the
first thirty four games while he's trying to finally get
that inflammation out of his right need right, But he

(20:18):
hasn't been dealing with that, you know, the second half
of the season, certainly the last month of the season.
So you know, for that to be a factor shouldn't
be it. It also shouldn't be a factor of James
hard maybe taking a back seat to Kawhi. Both players
need to be aggressive. Their strength is not just in
their star power, but in their depth and just how
scrappy they are. And then the Clippers really, not just

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Jame's Harden, but everyone else. They treated Game four is
like a game they could go on cruise control and
afford to mess around with and that's not what their
identity has been all seasons. I was surprised about it.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I want to pivot from this series a little bit,
and this is a two part question. I mean, the
playoffs has been really excited to me. I mean the physicality,
the way that the officials have been calling the game
and letting the guys play. It's been it's been real
competitive basketball and it's been fun to see.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
But where did you stand on that part of it?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
And also the call out in Detroit against the Knicks.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Yeah, we're right standing on it. Generally, I love physical
playoff basketball. This is what's all about. You want teams to,
you know, get after it and not like each other.
I love the Rockets Warriors series. You know, there's a
lot of trash talking on both sides. I think players
are relishing. It's the physical part of it. You know
what was interesting before Game three, in the context of

(21:41):
Warriors losing Game two or without Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry's
getting swarmed on double teams that I was talking to
his trainer, Brandon Pain the other day and the house
stuff is dealing with all this, and he says, oh,
he loves it. He loves playoff basketball. And so even
though he and others in his camp feel like, Hey,
I wish the officials called the game a little bit

(22:01):
more consistently. They love the whole element of physical basketball play,
because that's what high stakes games are all about. The playoffs, now,
the very specific question he had about the Pistons, Nick, Yeah,
Tim Hardaway Junior was found by Josh hard There's there's
a very good reason why the Pistons were upset. Why JB.
Bickerstaff was, you know, shouting at the Reford approaching him,

(22:24):
you know, crossing the court. After the game, they should
have given Tim Hardaway Junior those free throws because that
was a foul. Even though Josh hart was trying his
best to avoid contact, he still, you know, touched him
a little bit on the closeout. So, yeah, if I'm
the Pistons, I'm understandably upset. But you know what, the
Knicks made a lot of amazing shots. Joe Brunson came

(22:46):
through in the clutch, Carl Anthony Towns has had an
amazing shot. I think the really humbling thing about the
playoffs is whether it's the Pistons next game or Monsey's
Clippers and the Nuggets. Yes, technically, sometimes outcomes come down
to that final dramatic play, but a lot of it
is really just everything that precedes that. So, yeah, Piston

(23:07):
should be rightfully upset, but we should give credit for
how amazing the next play down the clutch.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Speaking of credit, yeah, everybody was waiting for a playoff Jimmy,
but playoff Steph Curry is a real thing. Is a
real thing, and I feel like we get so stuck
in the lebron James has been around for so long
and this is what he's doing, He's doing great, when
in reality we also have Chris Paul starting all eighty

(23:33):
two games and doing what he can at his age,
and now Steph Curry proving he's still here y'all, Like
with or without Jimmy Butler, are we not giving enough
credit to Steph Curry?

Speaker 9 (23:45):
Well, I think the underrated thing about Steph Curry. He
gets a lot of credit, But I think one thing
that isn't fully appreciate as much as it is his
dramatic shooting performances and all those championships, is just how
he plays through physicality. He is far removed from that
player earlier in his career that had a lot of
concerns about his ankle durability. I mean so much that

(24:07):
when the Warriors signed him to an extension in twenty twelve,
it was seen as a risky play because of his
ankle durability, and lo and behold, it was the wise
move and they got him on a discount. Since then,
he's done a lot of work with his trainer, Brandon Pain,
as well as you know, just behind the scenes with
the Warriors, with improving his muscle strength. He's not going

(24:28):
to be, you know, in Olympic bodybuilding contest, but he
I think has a resiliency. He's got a lot stronger.
He's really good with attacking the basket, and he trains
himself to be in tip top shape moving without the ball,
assuming he's always going to get double teams. And while
you know, Brandon Pain made it clear to me the
other day, you know, it's not like they're trying to

(24:48):
beat up on him because they want him to be
healthy during the season. They do have you know, dummy
defenders on him during these workouts so he can simulate
as best he can what it's like to deal with
the you know, a lot of defenders, what it's like
to deal with a little bit of physicality. So that
come playoff time or other high stakes games. He's very

(25:08):
well used to it. I think there are understandable concerns.
Jimmy Butler has made a dramatic impact on the Worris
the very deadline, and we've seen what the Warriors were
like before that. But in the playoffs, Steph Curry, Draymond
Green and others have a way of really lifting their
performances up. So yeah, Stepp playing all the time level.
Thankfully without Jimmy, the Warriors have some good contributions from

(25:32):
Garry paying the second and Buddy Healed, and we'll see
if they can replicate that in game four.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Mark, thank you so much for joining us. Mark Medina
our NBA insider. You can follow him on social media
and Mark gi underscore Medina. We appreciate what We.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Kind of appreciate the mind. But then he also said.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
The Clippers are going to win the series, so we
appreciate you. Mark, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Have a great rest of.

Speaker 9 (25:56):
Your Sunday, Monty care, appreciate you best. Sunday sh on
Fox Sports right in Yeah, don't worry, mon say, I
know you're upset today, but the Clippers are going to
close the series. Out this week, so you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Upset is not even the word mark, but yes, thank you,
thank you, Mark. Have a good one.

Speaker 9 (26:13):
How you too, Martin.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Your team loses unfairly, My team loses unfairly. But what
else is going on?

Speaker 4 (26:21):
My team has already gone fishing, So.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Your team's already gone fishing.

Speaker 8 (26:25):
Just a crime against humanity, happy the little Caesars in
Marina today. A crime against sport, a crime against fairness,
a crime against equity injustice.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
That's John's heart.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
Brush bumped, as I said, interpass interfered with appearance Tim
Hardaway Junior on a potential game winning three point attempt.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
He was fouled.

Speaker 10 (26:50):
In fact.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Do you have any questions about whether he was fouled?

Speaker 8 (26:52):
You can ask the NBA, because about fifteen minutes after
the game, they came up with the statement saying, in.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Fact, he was fouled and the referees just missed the call.

Speaker 8 (27:01):
The Knicks take the commanding three to one lead with
the ninety four to ninety three win in Game four.
The series heads back to New York for Game five.
Jalen Brunson with thirty two points eleven assists. He twisted
his ankle in the fourth quarter, ended up coming back
in the game and at like fifteen points afterwards, Kate
coming up with the twenty five point triple double. Right now,

(27:22):
with just under four minutes left in the third quarter,
the Lakers have an eighty to seventy six lead over
the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Anthony Edwards and Lebron James both have twenty five points
excuse me.

Speaker 8 (27:33):
Twenty five points Lebron with eight rebounds and six assists.
In the NHL, tightly contested between the Hurricanes and the
Devils has been a lot you want to tell a
physical game, this has been one of them.

Speaker 10 (27:43):
Three to two the score at the end of.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
The second period. The Blues tied the series up with
the Jets today five to one. The score there two
to two the series margin. Top of the ninth inning,
the Reds lead the Rocky seven to one.

Speaker 8 (27:55):
Bottom of the fifth, Rangers Giants tied two to two,
White Sox and Athletics the bottom of the sixth tie
one apiece. Top of the six the Diamondbacks with a
four to one lead over the Braves. Mariner's five to
two over the Marlins. Bottom of the fifth of Dodgers
six to two over the Pirates, also in the bottom
of the fifth day arrays leading the Padres, who are

(28:16):
twelve and three at home so far, three to two.
Top of the sixth inning and second game of a
double header the Yankees and the Blue Jays. Blue Jays
hoping it turns out better than the last first game
of the doubleheader, which was eleven to two the Yankees
over the Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
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(28:54):
Sports Radio videos on YouTube. That's right, That's right, all right, Carrie.
So go back to the Clippers here for a second.
I was at this game and one of the things
that Mark said to us right now was that the
Clippers came out flat, and I one hundred agree. I
was at the game, very excited, got there early, got
my James hard and shirt. You know, I am ready.

(29:15):
I'm wearing my Chris Paul Clippers suresy, the one that
was like light blue, that was like a shirt over
those years. That's what I'm That's what I'm wearing. I'm
I'm I am ready. I am ready to go and cheer.
The first thing I yelled as the game started was
step on their throats. That's what I yelled. Oh no,
I yelled. I just don't want to. I don't want

(29:36):
to break these microphones or people listening to their cars
or wherever you're listening. I don't want it to break
your speakers. But I like screamed step on their throats
with maybe an f bom or something, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
And then the.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Clippers were like, Nah, we're not We're just gonna come out.
We're gonna ease into it, We're gonna warm up, We're
gonna like go up and down. It was so annoying
because I was like, you guys, look flat, get out there.
I don't like that. Maybe they also think they're a
better team overall as everyone is saying, yeah, which I
hate that. What happened to you people not trusting the

(30:10):
Clippers go back to that. I don't like the now
all of a sudden, people trust the Clippers don't do that,
but they came out flat, and I don't like that
because I'm afraid of what might happen come Game five
to sixty seven, Like you should have been stepping on
their throat.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, when you start to develop a real killer mentality,
you don't allow you don't allow that seepest to come in.
And that's part of the identity of winning teams. They
have that, and they've developed that throughout the years. And
so with the Clippers having their history that they have,
you know that it kind of lends to the fear

(30:47):
of what you're having right like you could sense it
right away. It's one of those things where to get
over that narrative and to start being the team that
is the final team at the end of the season.
You got to develop that esctually. When you have teams
that are wounded. Right now, the nutt thought absolutely, the
head coach is gone, players are injured.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
You know, Porters not one hundred percent. He's out there
toughing it out.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Jamal Murray is suspended for the next game on that
uh huh.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Jamal Murray is kind of a shelle of what the
of the guy that we remembered of being the playoff
killer that he needs to be.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
He's not that guy. He's not that guy.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
And so you got to take advantage of these situations
and not let those teams have any life.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
And I agree with you. They look that way when
I saw it as well.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Right, it's just and NICOLEA. Yokich is phenomenal, like even
he is still having the great, you know game that
we expect every time. But it's just like that, they
looked flat and they look like they didn't want to
step on their throat, and it's like, I want you
to have that killer mentality. I want you to go
out there and make them cry. That is what I want.

(31:49):
Is that too much to ask for?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
No, it's not. I mean, I'm just thinking about you, all,
all of you. It's not a lot of me.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
No, not a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
No, that's why. That's that's that's why. That's why I said.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I can just picture you right now in the in
the stadium in the stands with my beer, like I said,
all of you with the beer one hand.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Popcorn also not popcorn hot dog.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
No, I didn't eat a lot. I did have a candy.
I mean, I'm yeah, I can just see you.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I'm enjoying the game.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
I can see you screaming and trying to get their
attention and really thinking they're hearing you two when you
know I.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Do think I know you do.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I can tell I'm the same way on TV though
I'm on I'm the TV guy doing that catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, So I feel for you.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I want the Clippers to win this series with you,
so I'm riding with you. I hope they get it together.
That's that's where I am.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I hope so too.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
And I I.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
The dunk, you know. You know what, Let's finish this
on the other side. Let's finish this on the other side.
Don't go anywhere. I still got to let this out
on the Clippers because I'm not over it. It's hasn't
been twenty four hours. It's Fox, thank you, Fox Sports Sunday.
Don't go anywhere. I'm mons he's carry listening to Fox Sports.
Fox Sports Sunday. What's up? Everybody on Monty Belangas alongside

(33:06):
all I was looking at Lebron getting hit in the
head by Rudy Gobert. Alongside for her All Pro safety
carry Rhodes. As we're watching the Timberwolves and the Lakers.
LA is up right now ninety two to eighty two
with about thirty seconds to go in the third quarter.
Shame I cut his mic. Chris Shay's a Lakers fan,
so here he is celebrating that Lebron can't can't do anything, baby.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
This entire this entire studio has been emotional all day.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Lebron over here, upset that Rudy what he was boxing
you out. He's taller than you, honestly, So here, really
real thing. If you and I are playing basketball and.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
You and I'm guarding you, you're about to get these buckets.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, you're gonna score. But if you make a movement,
if you make a tough movement and you hit me
in the face, it's not you hit me in the face.
It's just I'm shorter than you, and that's where your
elbow connected to my head. And I feel like Rudy
Gobert is taller than you, So that movement was his
elbow to the back of your head. It wasn't him
trying to hurt you, Lebron. But then, of course Lebron
pretends like, oh no, he absolutely sells it like I

(34:15):
he's not good enough to win an Oscar because I
saw space sham too. He has not good enough to win,
not good enough to win any of that. But he
definitely on the court likes to act it all out,
all of it. Back to the Clippers game last night.
As we finished this third quarter of the la versus
Minnesota game, that game winning buzzer beater dunk that has

(34:40):
never happened in the playoffs, Aaron Gordon, did you think
it should have counted?

Speaker 4 (34:44):
Oof? I don't. I still don't know. I don't.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I need I need further clarification of the rule. Obviously,
we know that if the hands still touching the ball,
it doesn't count. That's part of what we know.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
But the fact that it was in the rim inside
our headside, that's like, I don't, right, what's the rule?
Is it the rim or is it the hand? I
think it's the hand as we have always looked, it's
the hand. Is the hand still touching the ball? Yes,
you saying I don't know. I actually think that's a
great answer, right, But in the game right away they
called it a basket, So then they went back and

(35:16):
they didn't have enough evidence to overturn it.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
And it was like, no, idiots, you should have called
anything and then.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Looked at it and then made the decision. And then
that way, maybe we go to overtime and not on this.
Like again, it's one in a million, right, this never happened.
It's never they said, nothing like this has ever happened.
So I get all that, but why call it a basket?
Because in lifetime when I was there, I thought he
didn't get it. And now when I see certain frames,

(35:44):
y'all like, if he got it, it's like point zero
zero zero zero zero tens of a second. If he
got it, it's crazy, it is so freaking close. But
my gripe over here, he should not have been in
the game at that point.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Oh, that's right, you said he should have been there.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Absolutely should have been tossed. There was a scuffle that
happened earlier in the game. He absolutely swung at Norman Powell.
He missed, he did miss, but nothing happened, and they
did like equal technical fouls to both teams, and then
that was it. And then we moved on and I
was say, no, no, this mat and they showed it
like twice on the jumbo tron, and so we all

(36:21):
saw it in slow motion. This guy absolutely wound up
and swung and just missed everyone, including Norman Powell, who
I think he was going for, and I was surprised that, like,
they did not toss him. So then there's that during
that scuffle, Michael Porter Junior one thousand percent got up
from the bench and walked all the way under the
basket and then he had to be stopped by personnel

(36:44):
to go back. What is the rule. Whether you think
it's a stupid rule or not, I don't care. The
rule is you cannot leave the bench during a scuffle. Yep,
carry that's right. If Denver, If Denver has Michael Porter
Junior for Game five, if the NBA does not suspend
him for Game five, I don't know how I'm supposed

(37:05):
to believe that the league does not maybe want the
Clippers to advance. How am I not supposed to believe that?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh, that is the rule.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
That is.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
There's no question I'm not saying the rule is a
good one. He didn't touch anybody, but he definitely got
onto the court, made it all the way to the basket,
essentially where the key Is and then was grabbed by
like two or three people and dragged back to the bench,
and then they asked him after and he was like, oh, yeah, sorry,
I didn't know that that was the rule. My bad.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
Yeah, of course he's going to say that.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Of course you're gonna say. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
No, I mean, Mazi, I'm gonna tell you this. I
want him to play, and I'll say this just for
just for you and the Clipper's sake. I don't want
them to have any excuses. I want the Clippers to
beat them fair and square, which they will I believe,
And so I understand from the fans standpoint and the
actual going by the rules of what it's supposed to happen.

(37:59):
But I want both teams. And this is just from
an outside perspective, right, because I'm not a fan. If
I was a fan, i'd probably be saying the same
thing you're saying. So don't get me, don't get me wrong,
but I want them to be there. Michael Porter Junior
has been okay, he hasn't done much in this yer
Game four he played well. I want them to be
four strength and I want the Clippers to beat them
at four strength's you know, it's so.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Funny when the scuffle happened and they didn't toss Aaron
Gordon in that moment, I was like, you know what,
it's a good thing they didn't toss me. Let's beat
them full strength. And then he hits the stupid dunk
at the end, and I was like, but I also
said that I agree with what you were saying. But
because this is a rule that I feel like the
league has followed through and through throughout the years, we've

(38:42):
seen somebody get suspended for this where it's like, okay,
if you don't because this one was so blatant, I
feel like there's others where like maybe they get a
few steps. No, this guy was on the court and
literally had to be tackled and stopped by his own personnel,
And so if you don't suspend him, then we get
rid of that rule. Like you we can't pretend that
it was like, oh, we missed it, No, you know

(39:03):
it was. It was clear as day. This is not
like the dunk where you could go back and forth
on whether the dunk counted or not.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, this guy broke the rule playing playing and simple,
and the crazy part about it is, right now, I
lost my train of thought on it, because you just
said the last thing. But I'll say this about your
about your clippers. They better wake up, the better wait
and not give them any more any more air to breathe.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
This series is there to take. They better take it.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Carrie, I know, I know. Can you call them and
tell them to call them? Can you call them because
apparently my screaming yesterday it didn't reach them, because they did.
They did not play like that until the fourth quarter
when they were down by twenty. NBA Playoffs, the NFL
Draft is over. We've been talking about that and we're
actually gonna talk about that next. So don't go anywhere.
Carrie and I have so much more to discuss. It

(39:51):
is Fox Sports Sunday.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
What's up?

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Everybody Happy Sunday? Monti Lanya is alongside Carrie Roads hanging
out with you. This is our two. If you missed
the first one, Oh, we got into it. I yelled
at the Clippers step on their throat and the Clippers said, nah,
we don't want to do that. We want to cruise
through this. Then the Pistons, oh, they're probably real upset
about that missed call. At the end of the game

(40:14):
against the next carry.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
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Speaker 2 (40:40):
The Draft Raft, The Draft that's over. We talked about
it for so many weeks. It felt like so much anticipation.
Who's gonna go number one? What we knew cam Ward
was yes, because when you go on your streaming game
and you say that your favorite receivers are Calvin Ridley
or that you're one of your favorite running backs, is
to you're like, huh, that's interesting. Okay, so maybe you're

(41:03):
gonna be drafted by somebody number one overall. But there
was a lot of discussion surrounding Shador Sanders and we
aren't gonna talk about Shador. But I think what we
really need to dive into is this prank call carry Bro.
Like I remember when I used to do prank calls.
You know when I used to do them the first

(41:24):
time that it was like three way calling, where you
could get three people on the same call, and like
you would call someone and be like, let's call her
and see if she'll say what she said about you,
And oh I did that. So I would call a
girl to see if she would say to me what
she said about the other girl, and have the other
girl listening. Mary mac on the ones and twos, now
she's not in the long because she knows exactly what

(41:47):
us girls would do to try and get information and gossip.
Those were the prank calls I was doing. Yeah, not
something in the middle of an NFL draft with a player,
a young athlete that everyone is talking about, Like, you

(42:07):
didn't just you know, prank call. I don't know anyone
else you prank called, probably like the worst person to
prank call.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah, No, it was that.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That prank call stuff is just obviously it's it's naive,
it's immature, it's cruel. I mean, these these these people
lives are hanging in the balance of you know, you know,
moving on to bigger and better things in their lives
and trying to solidify themselves on a professional level and

(42:38):
getting that call, and they're with their families and their
spouses and their significant others, and you're sitting there playing
with that and making light of that, and especially in
a situation that you know Shador was in in particular,
where he's at his most vulnerable spot. He's free falling,
he's in a sense of unknown, and then you get
a number and you call it an and pretend to

(43:00):
be a GM owner of a team.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
That's cruel.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
That's somebody that has no self aw self awareness, and
it sucks. It sucks to be in that position.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Oh so it's not funny. No, Like, I don't know.
I feel like the print call could have been better
if you wanted to print call him and say like, hey,
we've got your fifty Domino's pizzas here outside, kill me right,
But instead it's like you played with his emotions in
a moment where it's like so low to do that. Like,
none of that was funny. And if you've missed some

(43:30):
of the details of this story, Shadorg Sanders apparently got
a private phone, yes, just for the draft, right. This
information was just supposed to be given to the NFL
teams and their GMS and it was separate phone than
his personal phone, literally just for the draft, so not
very many people had access to this number. Then a

(43:53):
video comes out. That's another thing, is like kids these days,
you recorded it, you recorded.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
It, you incriminate yourself, yourself, idiots, idiots.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Okay, So it came out and the guy it's a
they're twenty twenty one years old.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
I read.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I can't confirm that maybe they were frat bros at
ole miss. I don't know, like people were just talking right,
But there is a video and the kid calls and
in this video there is another kid sitting next to him.
That kid sitting next to him is what caused people
to be like, wait, is that who we think it is?
And it came out confirmed that it was Falcons defensive

(44:30):
coordinator Jeff Olbrick's son, Jack's Olbrick. So he is the
son of a defensive coordinator in the NFL, and he
was in the video, I mean idiot. And in the
video he also I don't know if he realizes that
maybe he shouldn't be in the video, because then he
gets up and walks away from the video. Yes, but
he is in it to start the video absolutely sitting

(44:52):
next to the guy making the call.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
And he's sitting next to him, but he also was
I'm sure the one that gave him the number.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Absolutely, So it's come out since then. This all came
out today. Jax Olbrick posted an apology and said on
Friday night, I made a tremendous mistake, Chadoor. What I
did was completely inexcusable, embarrassing, and shameful. I'm so sorry
I took away from your moment. It was selfish and childish.
I could never imagine getting ready to celebrate one of

(45:18):
the greatest moments of your life, and I made a
terrible mistake and mess with that moment. Thank you for
accepting my call earlier today. I hope you can find
it in your heart to forgive me. If I'm Shador,
it's like, obviously, shadors better things to worry about, probably
doesn't care anymore, but man, I would be so livid
and so upset. The Falcons have also made a statement,
and I'm not going to read it all to you,

(45:39):
but basically they said that Jeff Olbrick left maybe an
iPad out at his home and his son was visiting,
and then the iPad was open. Information was there, the
Sun wrote down the number later made a prank call.
Jeff Olbrick was completely unaware that this information was exposed
or that the prank was even a part of a

(46:01):
plan for a son.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
You know what this does, you know what?

Speaker 3 (46:03):
This just radiates this this this negative light and it
almost seems like a curse for anybody that was associated.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
With the Jets. I like that connection there, Mark, like jeff.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Oldbrook was putting the impossible situation, you know, following absolutely
and you know, you know, following those guys in the
Jets and being the interim coach during the stretch of
that season, and they look sloppy at times, look not prepared.
So for him to not know that this iPad is
sitting there with important information, important numbers. In that situation,

(46:36):
your son steals it. It just kind of kind of
leans from that situation to this and kind of you
gotta be more careful about with the stuff that you
have out and putting out there in the world and
giving access to people with.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
You're not wrong. I think that's a good message for
everyone listening, Like, protect your stuff that is supposed to
be protected. Clearly, you can't even trust your own kid
because I'm just like, if I'm Jeff and I have
this twenty one year old son, I'm sorry. You are
twenty one years old. You are not a seven year
old who maybe does not understand that my dad works

(47:10):
for the National Football League. My dad is a defensive
coordinator for a team, a job that people would kill
to have, People would kill to have a small percentage
in the world of football, like working in that field. Right, So,
I feel like I'm not even really blaming Jeff. No, no, no,
I'm like, how is your how you probably trusted your

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son that if your son walked past your desk and
saw information, that he would just look past it. That
is what you should be doing when you're twenty one
years old and you know what your father is doing.
You are not a child where you don't understand the
severity or like what you've done, not just to shadure
what you have now done to your father and his name. Yes,

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you have tainted that name for a really long time.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
And this is uh, this is the environment we live
in right now. Everybody wants to go viral, everybody wants
to have their moment, and this is that's our problem.
Everything is not a you moment. Let those kids, those
young men have their moment, and you just go about
doing other stuff that you do. Don't don't impede on
other people's happiness. And that's part of where we are
right now.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And it's like, I don't know what this is. It's like,
what were you trying to do? Be funny? Is that
what you were trying to do was c It's not funny,
It wasn't cue. Also, why are you in the video?
Why are you incriminating yourself? Like all of this, But
aside from that again, like I feel like what you've
done to your father is worse than what you actually
did to sure door standers. Door is gonna be fine,

(48:38):
yur is fine? You know what I'm saying, Like, it's
it's this will be a footnote in his story. We
will we won't be talking about it in a few years,
but maybe they're going to be talking about it about
his dad because it's like, how can we trust your
dad any organization that wants to hire him. It's like, well,
it's not that we don't trust you, it's just that
now we know we can't trust maybe those people closest

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to you because they took advantage of a moment where
it's like if I, Carrie, if you left your phone
out right now and I saw something, I'm not even
you know what I'm saying, Like, you wouldn't have to
worry about it. I'm not even if like ipothetically, let's
say so I'm gonna be like, oh, I didn't see it.
It wouldn't you know what I'm saying, Like I would
not take that information and then do something with it.
It's just a matter of respect. And I know who

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you are as a person. You know, like you have
a career, you have a history. I know not to
do that to you. Like if my friend Grace's phone
is out, I'm like, oh, what's going on here? I'm
a scroll. I'm a scroll because you know what, Grace
is not anybody.

Speaker 9 (49:34):
She's to me.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
She's my best friend. But like, you know, how, how
did there's levels to this? And that's what's so disappointing.
I think it's like we didn't just hear that it's
this nerd who cracked a code and found a number
and prank called him. That's a real print call. This
is more malicious. This is you knew what you were doing.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
This is not nice. At all.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
This is not nice at all. And like if we
would have heard like, oh it's a it's a dirty
guy that cracked it and wants to make money, all right,
But that's not the case, Martin Wise, what do you
got to say about this?

Speaker 8 (50:08):
So I think that there's a part missing in these
statements that may never be addressed.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Okay, because you.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
Know and then you asked let me ask you this
because you've been drafted and to my knowledge, Manci, I
don't know if you have, but carry the only one thing.
So and it's been some years, but maybe the process
has changed. But the way that the video came out
from Chador's people was like I got this number for
the draft, right, So this happened on Friday night?

Speaker 10 (50:40):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
This is so this is day two?

Speaker 8 (50:42):
Yes, at what point, there's all At what point did
Shador actually buy the phone and get the number?

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Because the the what the statement is saying.

Speaker 8 (50:53):
Is that Sun went home from college randomly on this
on Thursday, happened to go home and happened to find
the I bet and happen to take the number out.
Like it's a lot of circumstance that makes me feel
like that the number was leaked in a different way,
and that the kid is being the person who is
the fall guy in this way because like when I

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was I'm not saying that this is true for everybody.
When I was away to college, I didn't go back
home on a random midweek day, you know.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Just it's just feels odd to me.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I don't disagree that, because it would have.

Speaker 8 (51:28):
To line up in an hourly Like if he got
the phone on Wednesday and this is Friday, then I
want to know when he got the through.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
It wouldn't surprise me though, if he had the phone
for a bit, like what if this was you know
what I mean, like Shador Sanders his people like probably
let's say they got the phone a month ago and
it was like, this is just for the NFL Draft.

Speaker 8 (51:45):
So this is what made me think about it that way,
because all right, so there's some six hundred eligible prospects
to be drafted, right, and I imagine there has to
be some massive phone bank in case you want to
draft you know, should r Anders or you want to
draft you know.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
Mister irrelevant, right, all those phone numbers have to be there.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
So I think that, like, because not everybody's going on
top thirty visits, not everybody.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
So it makes sense to me that like he would
have gotten a phone.

Speaker 8 (52:13):
Particularly for the draft, and that there was a list
serve of phone numbers disseminated for the draft, right as
opposed to having like his personal cell phone. Do you
see what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Sure? I feel like, what if it's really that simple
that the kid didn't know it was a private number?
What if he just saw the numbers should do or
a number and just took it and not knowing, oh,
this is a private line, Like this is going to
create a story, because what if it wasn't a private line, right,
maybe it doesn't become as big of a story and.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
You're not well you're not probably not recording it and
putting on, but you're probably not the face or whatever.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, Yeah, I hear what you're saying. And I don't
know if we're ever going to get the answers to
the timeline of exactly how this happened.

Speaker 8 (53:01):
Because I'll just said that because if you ask those questions,
then it becomes a whole lot of well how did
this number actually get out?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Because unless kid just like really was there. But either way,
that's my conspiracy theory for today.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
No, I mean, like you're not wrong, but I also
believe that it could be that simple that this kid
came home, walked into an office, maybe to grab something else,
and there it is on the iPad, a list with
everyone's number. But what name do you care the most about,
right Sanders? Of course, yeah, the one you care the
most about, right.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah. I don't know how that all took place, and
I don't think we ever will know, but the fact
that he came out and apologized about it, I think
the story would be buried at this point. I mean,
no crime, quote unquote happened, and so now you just
kind of move on. And as far as like the
draft process goes and the numbers call, and I can
understand why you would want to have another number to
make sure that you don't miss the call.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
And that's really that's what that's all it is.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Do you remember getting a call?

Speaker 4 (53:58):
I do, I do.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
I got a couple of calls, you had a call,
teams called saying they you know, they were thinking about
me in that spot and may go a different end
up going in a different direction. And then I've had
you know, the actual call happened when her networks and
uh my head coach, well the Jets, the New York
Jets head coach at the time. You know, he's on
the phone talking GM Mike Tannenbaum, owner Woody Johnson, like

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all all those things were special, and you know, it's
it's crazy because the having the separate phone would have
been a great idea.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
I didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
But every call that comes in, you just the like, oh,
this is the one, this is the one, and yeah,
I'm like, man, hey, man, listen, stop calling me right now.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
You know, so you have that stuff happened.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Follow up on that. So you would get calls of
teams saying like we're thinking about you.

Speaker 4 (54:45):
You do have those interesting yes, because.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
I'd be like, Okay, don't tell me that, just call
me if you want.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Me or not for sure, but there are spots like
for me right like coming in so we talk about
the slides and all these things that happened. It's very
interesting because it's it can be you know, it can
be position specific. Sure, it can be best available. Those
things happen as well. But you know, I was graded
as a second round guy, so you know, pretty high.

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Only played safety for a short period of time.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
So I.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Obviously you're going to go in with the expectations of
being second round pick, and so I don't get drafted
that first day, I'm like, man, this is crazy. I
got family here, Like I'm having all these emotions. I
go out with my college buddies that night because I
stayed in Louisville. My family came up and we all
were there, and you know, got took off the board early,
day two whatever, and it kind of goes away. But

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it should be used as motivation in these situations because
nothing's a given and just because the team says that
you could be first round, second round, whatever, doesn't mean
it's going to happen. Circumstances changes, changes, people get taken
off the board early, and so it's it's just one
of those things where you have to sit back and
actually keep your emotions in check and be tempered and
be balance, which I've talked about talking to you about an.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
You got to be zen at all times. So more
follow up to that. It gave you momentum inspiration by falling.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Off the draft, oh one thousand, absolutely so, but it's
also who the person you are, the person you are go.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Ahead, So Shadoor Sanders. Obviously, no one expected him to
be drafted this late in the draft. No one expected it.
But I feel like, isn't this adding fuel to the fire,
Like I feel like he could This might be a
good thing.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
No, I would hope. So yes, Okay, I agree, you
went through it. I went through it like I.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
This is something I could actually talk to him about
because of like I said, second round, he could have
been second round, so you know, to drop to the
fourth round. He dropped to the fifth round. Like I
understand the emotions of that, they roller coaster of that.
And so to be the person that I'm sure he
wants to prove everybody wrong. That that's part of it.

(56:58):
But going there and be balanced in everything that you do,
I mean, work hard, be a good teammate. All these
things are factors in that next level. And so I
would love to talk to him and tell him about
more about this, and we can talk about it more
once we talk to Adam as well.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Absolutely, there's a lot of questions as to why maybe
Shador fell in the draft, and we are going to
talk to Adam Kaplan our NBA, NBA, our NFL insider
on the other side of this. So don't go anywhere.
I'm Moncey, He's Carry and this is Fox Sports Sunday.
It is Fox Sports Sunday. I am Monci Belanos alongside
former All Pro safety Carry Roads, and we are at

(57:33):
the edge of our seats with this Lakers Timberwolves game.
It was a tie game and now Minnesota has taken
the lead one fourteen to one thirteen with forty seconds
to go. But we're gonna shift gears and talk NFL
with our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan. Adam, how are you?
How are you on the Sunday guys.

Speaker 10 (57:53):
I'm good.

Speaker 11 (57:54):
I am kind of recapping and sort of decompressing after
very bad. Is a week for the draft, radio, television
and the craziness of the Sanders Sanders situation and yes,
the drop, which is what I kept telling people he
was probably not going to go in the first round up.

Speaker 10 (58:10):
He did, but I did not think it'd be this far.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
Boy that I'm still kind of shocked at that. I've
I've learned a lot from the situation. You got to
you gotta listen to what NFL people tell you, and
he was clearly not the player that a lot of
us thought early in the process, and you know, I
got on the to move him down late, and I
was right about that, but not not as not as
far as I thought.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
He He dropped way far, and I thought that that
definitely was stunning to me.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Adam.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
He was drafted after me, So that just tells you
how far were you a fourth rounder? Yes, sir, yes,
I thought so. Yeah, I thought so, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Well and Adam, we were going to start with that,
like what in the simplest explanation, why did he drop
so far?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
There?

Speaker 10 (58:49):
Really is it?

Speaker 3 (58:49):
One?

Speaker 11 (58:50):
Well, all right, I'll give you the first one, which
is the most important. And carry knows this as a
former player. The All twenty two the coaching tape, it's
about approximately seventy five percent of the grade. Yep, well,
I showed to amount of toughness. They did not have
a very good line. And yes, he's completion percentage was high.
The tape wasn't great. It was really, if you want
to be honest, like a third round great kind of tape.

(59:11):
And then why he dropped from the third of the fifth.
I think there were some ancillary issues, as one team
told me, because man I was doing television on Thursday
and Friday, so I really had a dig on this one.
So this is what I came up with. The side
show that's Dion like, this is what one team told me.
I thought this was really I'd never thought of this.
This is interesting. So and ironically he goes to a

(59:32):
place where I'm telling you that it's not out of
the question that she should have winds up starting the season.

Speaker 10 (59:38):
We'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 11 (59:39):
Based on the depth chart, they have a lot of
quarterbacks in Cleveland, but they're not very good.

Speaker 10 (59:43):
But it's for instance, this is the example.

Speaker 11 (59:47):
So let's say it's Week twelve, Cleveland's eliminated, and they
know Dylan Gabriel is a smaller quarterback.

Speaker 10 (59:53):
You know, he's probably overdraft a little bit.

Speaker 11 (59:55):
Joe Flacco was just there for one year, you know,
a journeyman who they really should have sign last year
there was a mistake, but they kind of know what
they have. And Kenny Pickett's a he's on his third
team in three years as it worked out for him.
And Watson is not going to be ready. So you
got Shudur here, who's as a more talented quarterback than

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a couple of those guys. So who's to say now,
here's the question. If the Colorado media could keep asking
every day or every week.

Speaker 10 (01:00:23):
What do you think of Shoulder? Are not playing yet?
You know, Diana is very out there. He said he might.
I mean, the quotes were out there about what he
said about.

Speaker 11 (01:00:31):
Well before Cleveland drafted him. That they're pretty some pretty
harsh comments. So this is kind of what you're dealing
with here, and folks, you gotta you kind of have
to look at that. That's that's that clubs don't want
to deal with the side show.

Speaker 10 (01:00:43):
That's just the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Okay, Adam, and this is and this is this is
where I am. Okay, the side show is one hundred
percent of real thing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
I think the side shouldn't be, but it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
It is. But the side is so part of it
is the layered part of this for me, because if
they thought he was good enough to be the starter
and be the guy that was super close to cam
Ward Side, so all that being said, they would have
still drafted him. And so in my opinion, so that
means that the side show outweighs the actual player. And

(01:01:14):
that's and I think that's what's getting lost in what
do you think about that?

Speaker 11 (01:01:17):
I would not agree with that. I would start with
the coaching tape. The coaching tape is this is the
way I see it. I would put him. I would
put your door in the third round, just based on
coaching tape. So let me explain what the third round is.
The third round is the lowest level of a drafted starter.
Fourth round and no offense to carry carry did well?

Speaker 10 (01:01:37):
He out but no, but you you outplayed your draft position.

Speaker 11 (01:01:43):
Draft position is thought to be a high end back
up some instances is starting and carry beat that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
He beat that.

Speaker 11 (01:01:49):
But third round is the lowest of the starting rounds.
One is no question will be a starter and your
one unless you're really raw.

Speaker 10 (01:01:57):
Two is a.

Speaker 11 (01:01:59):
Above average started. Three is a blow average starter. Fourth
is on the fringes of starting. So when you go
to the fifth round, you're basically saying that guy's not
a starter. And I don't agree with that with Shudur.
I I know that people are lots of more than
me and my friend Greg co sal Greg.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
I do some work with him. He's from NFL Films
and he knows the NFL matchup show.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
This.

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
I swear Greg told me this. He told me in February.
I'm done my tape study. Tyler Shuck is a better
quarterback than Shoulder Sanders. I almost fainted. I was, and
I never questioned Greg when it comes to quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
That's my Louisville guy.

Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
Adam Okay, I get yeah, that's right, And he said, listen,
he knew that he's older, and he transferred for a
bunch of schools, and he's had some injuries. But the
only greats tape and he goes it tapes way better
than Shoulders. I'm like, wow, how do I question that?
And then I'd run it by NFL people. Yeah, he's
it's not as good as you think it is. I

(01:02:51):
think a lot of guys actually like that. Dion's his
father because in Deon's Hall of Famer and he knows
what it's like to play for a coach as well,
so that I think that's important. You know, that's something
no one really talks about, which I think is super important.
You know, he's a baller. Now, I know he's rubbed
some people the wrong way, some teams the wrong way.
Now that's that's real. By the way, I talked to
a couple of those teams. I just didn't interview well

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and certain certain with certain coaches and so forth, But
I hope for the best for him. And its just
other than Miami, because the two teams I had talked
about on television were Miami and Cleveland. If he could
just hang in there, and he went to Cleveland, and
it may not be this year, folks, but he could
outlast all of them, all the other four quarterbacks for sure, all.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
The roster and Adam.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
That's and that's why I want to kind of tell
the audience as well, right the focus of him sliding
down to the draft, which it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Sucked in real time. We all we all saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
But I think he's in the best position to go
and start and so take advantage of the opportunity, the
opportunity that he's had.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
He has he's in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
We've talked me and you Adam about Cleveland not being
as bad as people think they are. I think, thinking, yeah, yes, yes, there,
they're quarterback away, so go compete and go win. Like,
how do you refocus yourself at him in these situations
to go out there and just get the job done,
as you know, in the position that you're in.

Speaker 11 (01:04:10):
I like the situation with Kevin Stefanci Kevin is really calm.
He's done a good job of developing quarterbacks. They drafted Judkins,
the running back from Ohio State who can handle a
lot of volume.

Speaker 10 (01:04:21):
He'll replace Nick Job.

Speaker 11 (01:04:23):
Their offensive line's got some issues, it's gotten older and injured,
but they have a really good defense, well coached by
Jim Schwartz. This is a team if they get I
mean they probably won't happen high level quarterback play. If
they could get above average quarterback play, this could be
a nine or ten win team. We so what flaccoed
it two years ago. He literally put the team on
us back. It was one of the all time stories,
which it's hard to believe. And the Browns made a

(01:04:47):
terrible mistake by not signing back last year, and now
they brought him back. But I honestly carry you called
it right. This is actually a great situation for me. Yeah, yeah,
I know it'll sting. I mean, if he's competitive, I'm
sure he is. Being a fifth ront pick will bother them.
But you know what, I'm sorry, Dylan Gabriel, if you're
an Argon fan, she is more talented.

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
He's just more talented. Watson probably won't be available the season.

Speaker 11 (01:05:09):
Kenny Pickett was severely over drafting Flecco's you know, at
the end of the line here, So and I know
Jones SIDZ seven, I'm I give him credit for stand
and shape still playing, but I'm not rolling out to
her starting. But once they're eliminated, assuming they are by
week twelve, thirteen or fourteen, and get some starts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Right, no movement adam literally at all leading out to
the NFL Draft, and then here come the Jaguars making
a trade to get Travis Hunter. What have you heard? Like,
when did they miss When did they decide to do that?

Speaker 10 (01:05:39):
Weeks ago?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Actually?

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Really?

Speaker 10 (01:05:40):
Yeah, it caught me by surprise. So yeah, I'm with you, Manci.

Speaker 11 (01:05:43):
I knew there was I knew that the Browns were
entertaining calls and they really wanted to move out because
they know they're not very good and they need a
lot of help because they've missed on that. They've not
drafted well since Andrewbury, their GM has been there. They've
come struggled. But look, I know I know that Brown fans,
some of them are disappointed because they missed out in
a generational player.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
But folks, he's not a quarterback.

Speaker 11 (01:06:06):
Yeah, Travis Hunter, maybe to wait player for the Jaguars,
and in fact, I usually haven't been to their camp
in a long time.

Speaker 10 (01:06:12):
I'm going to go to their camp just to see him.

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
I want to see how Travis Hunter's used here by
William Cohen and their staff.

Speaker 10 (01:06:18):
But Cleveland here, they did a good job.

Speaker 11 (01:06:22):
They got they have Jacksonvill's first round pick next year,
so that could be a top ten pick, top five potentially,
So they're going to help themselves and the Cleveland's got Look,
Cleveland's got some work to do on the roster, but
I like this move now. So what happened was this
thing was pushing, as I understand it, Tuesday Wednesday to
getting done, and both sides had to see what happened
with the first pick overall, make sure nothing crazy happened.

Speaker 10 (01:06:44):
But yeah, that now.

Speaker 11 (01:06:46):
Now, for instance, I'll give you an example where things
are just completely shut out from the media. Right twenty seventeen,
I put out a story that Mitch Trubisky would go
in the top ten. It was one of my last
stories before I left ESPN. Think he's gonna be a
top ten pick. I didn't know who was going to
draft and truth be told, So I'm at the draft
in Philly, and you know, it gets out that the
brands are trading up. I'm like, who are they trading

(01:07:07):
up for? It was really odd, like none of us
guessed right, we got it all wrong. And then when
they announced it, you could have pushed me over at
the feather. I was like, mister busy, Okay, Well that
that Ryan Ryan Pace. That was of all his bad,
bad decisions. He actually made a lot of good ones,
but that was a real bad one. That was one
that really kind of cost him his job. That that

(01:07:29):
was one where they he kept John Fox actually did
not know that they were going to draft him until
the day of the draft. In fact, Fox he told
like he was kind of surprised, like they did tell me.
He clear because he he was caught as.

Speaker 10 (01:07:41):
He didn't know. But that's not the truth.

Speaker 11 (01:07:43):
He actually knew before the draft, but it wasn't like
he knew weeks before he actually fell out. The morning
of would generally you tell the owner. Jams have told me.
They tell the owner of the morning of they finalized, Hey,
this is what they kind of know. But they go, hit,
we're definitely doing this, And I give I give Andrew
Barry credit. He did a really good job there. He
got a tremendous value for only falling down three spots.

(01:08:05):
And I thought they had an interesting draft. But I
know there's some people in the league. I want to
leave you with this who say that it's crazy what
they're doing quarterback. Why did they draft Gabriel then Sanders?
I would say this, it's because who was the best
player on the board in the fifth round, Shuret or Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
That's why they did it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Adam, I got, I got one more question for It's
a two part question. Yeah, number one, who had the
best draft? And I also want to talk about the
Baltimore Ravens in round two, number fifty nine, taking Mike Green,
who was obviously a first round talent.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
But but Phil because they off the field stuff terrible. Yeah, yeah,
tell me about that situation a little bit.

Speaker 10 (01:08:39):
We'll do the latter for us.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Mike Green.

Speaker 11 (01:08:42):
Had top Mike Green. Let me put it this way,
had had Mike Green, well, then again, he probably wouldn't transferred,
no matter what he says. But he's never he's never
been charged with anything.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (01:08:51):
Okay, there were a couple of instances where there are
some accusations women made against him and getting no chargers.

Speaker 11 (01:09:00):
And I was at the combine when he talked about
he said he was happy to talk about anything that
the media had to ask. He said, Hey, you could
ask me anything you want about it, and he explained himself.

Speaker 10 (01:09:10):
But that cost him.

Speaker 11 (01:09:10):
Now, the Ravens have a history of taking a chance
on players with shady pass or with their questions.

Speaker 10 (01:09:17):
So that's a guy who's a top ten player.

Speaker 11 (01:09:20):
I would in fact, I would have put him in
the top ten with that's because that's what I was
told he was. This is was not a great draft
with talent overall, and that's the talent that he had.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
And then he dropped. So and what was the other
question you had?

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
Oh, who had the best draft? If you if you
had this pick. Yeah, I have actually ranked him.

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I actually have to do that this week.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:09:39):
No, but I'm gonna give you Washington. Washington is right
up there the fact they've had. I got to give
Adam Peters credit, although I'm a little bit shaky about
all these former Sanran Schoot forty nine er players that
he was involved in drafting with the Niners, but Deebo Samuel,
he was a big one. But they took a terrific
tackle and Josh Connelly, who's going to go to right tackle?

Speaker 10 (01:09:59):
We play left tackle, aed Oargon. I love that move.

Speaker 11 (01:10:03):
I like to I when I look at their draft
and everything they did. Trey Amos was it had a
first run grades from other teams that I've talked to,
So do the Washington he was, He'll start a corner
on the outside. They've had a great off season, the Laramie.

Speaker 10 (01:10:17):
Tunsel trade, which I absolutely loved.

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
They and by the way, no team has won the
NFC East back to back since two thousand and four,
which seems absurd, but that's a true fact. So I
might have to rethink about Washington overtaking Philly, Like the
Philly had a nice draft, but let's not forget Well,
here's the thing. They lost five defensive players this offseason.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
Yea, yeah, it's a lot. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I mean you left us with a bit of a
momshell there.

Speaker 10 (01:10:43):
Yeah, I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:44):
I got I've got to look I gotta get opinions
and look at this a little deeper.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
But that's that.

Speaker 11 (01:10:49):
That that note that no team of the only four teams,
the only four teams of the division, no one has
won it back to back. The Eagles won four in
a row one through row four. But the Eagles are
the last team to repeat that was twenty one one
years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Face each other.

Speaker 10 (01:11:04):
Yeah, I'm thinking about it, guys.

Speaker 11 (01:11:06):
Look, the Giants completely, you know, choked obviously after shocking
the world of making the playoffs and Brian Dables first
year and the actually won a playoff game. They've been
terrible ever since. But the Giants, by the way, they
are another team that's had a really good off season.
So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Wow, Adam again, you left us with a little bit
of a bombshell that maybe.

Speaker 10 (01:11:22):
We're gonna Yeah, days, we got to do two seconds,
but we do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
We absolutely do. Adam Kaplan our NFL insider. You can
find him on ex Kaplan and NFL. We appreciate you,
and we're gonna have to do this again next time.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Oh yeah, I'll be here, you guys. Yes see, all right,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Oh man, what what.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
Philly?

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
And then he I mean he gave us a good
reason though.

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
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Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Oh, I'm lying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
We're not going anywhere. We're going to Martin. Martin, I
forgot about you. I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Sure I came into work today. It's all good, Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Blame Maddam with his bombshell.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
We've had great basketball. Oh over here chit chatting about
the NFL. I don't know if you guys have noticed,
but Anthony Edwards has arrived.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Put arrive up some points.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
I would like to say that I said that in
this series, Anthony Edwards was going to be the star
of the show. I said that before the series started.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
Bomb shows everywhere.

Speaker 8 (01:12:42):
Anthony Edwards forty three points, nine rebounds, Shick's assists. Lakers
fall to the Minnesota tip Wolves one sixteen to one thirteen.
Minnesota now with a commanding three to one lead in
the series. Much of the ceagrine of Shay he was
sick as the Lakers got outscored thirty nineteen in the
fourth quarter. For Minnesota to come from behind and get

(01:13:04):
the win. Celtics and Magic tipping in just a moment
Nix and Pistons. Pistons got robbed earlier today when the
Knicks benefited from a no foul call on Tim Hardaway
Junior's three point attempt as time expired in the fourth quarter.
Knicks win at ninety four to ninety three, Jalen Bronson
at thirty two points and eleven assists in the NHL

(01:13:25):
puck just dropped for the Capitals. In Canadians, that's scoreless.
The Blues beat the Jets five to one, tie that
series up two to two, and the Hurricanes take a
five to two win over the Devils to take a
three to one series lead.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Back to you guys, or maybe not, I don't know
they Fox Sports Radio, Martin mart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (01:13:47):
I lost it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
There was so much going on. There was so much
going on in that moment. It's true, but well again
we got more to talk about, so don't go anywhere.
Thanks Martin. This is Fox Sports Sunday. Fox Sports Sunday.
I'm Montey Belanya alongside former All Pro safety Carry Roads.
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(01:14:09):
this album like I could just listen to it on repeat.
Graduation best album, best album by Kanye.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
I think graduation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yeah, graduation, I mean late registry is up there? Sure
I for something? Yeah, maybe, okay, but I do like.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
This so I fantasy is good too. Yeah, it's graduation though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
It's graduation still well yeah, absolutely absolutely. Thanks for hanging
out with us on this Sunday. We've covered so much
caring we have.

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Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
You know, to all the men out there, tell the
fellas listening, I will tell you for the ladies, A
good smelling dude goes a long way? Am I wrong?
Mary clocked it? Like a good smelling dude goes along.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
And don't let him be fine fine, smell good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Oh no, that we can't handle that. That's too much
for sometimes I'm just saying, smell good, fellas, we really
appreciate it, and it goes along. No, dear savage over here, baby,
I need good smelling cologne. You know what I'm saying, Like,
just smell fresh. It's like I don't need you to
go spend money on an expensive cologne, but smell clean, clean,
smell fresh.

Speaker 5 (01:15:37):
Moncey's gift to the studio carry every year on Christmas,
she'll give everyone sprays, like like smelling sprays or something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Did I give you?

Speaker 4 (01:15:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:15:45):
I don't know if it's her saying like, yo, you
smell bad, you know, or if it's her being like, oh,
this would smell good.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
We're more than you men into what we want. It's
a combination. We're we're in clothes space. Oh definitely time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
I want the men I work with to smell good?
Is that too much to ask for? So I provide to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Be honest with us, let us know where Maybe it's like, no,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
That, I mean maybe some of you could use a
little help. I gave it to everyone, and it's more
that like I don't want to smell a bad person
next to me, And there's a lot of men that
Mary and I work with and I just want you
all to smell good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
The crazy part is if she gave it to like
two specific people or something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
That would be nuts, right, And it's I gave it
to everybody in the club, Okay, So damn well, I
just want to smell good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
I definitely you're all. You're all very welcome. I'm sure
after an NBA game, they probably don't smell good, but
it's okay. It's all right after an NBA game, and
that is the only acceptable time if you have just
worked out or played a game and you don't smell good.
I get that. That's not a problem. Look at look
at it. Yeah, that's right. I always smell good. Martin.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
This Timberwolves Laker Lakers game is over everybody game for
in Minnesota, and it was everything you would want again
in a game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
It was a stinker down the stretch from Lebron. Get
let's just say what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Well, I was getting there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
I know you did, you did. I was sitting watching it,
and that was like the last two minutes of that game. Lebron.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Lebron shoots a deep three for no reason, no reason.
He files Anthony lwars and lets him get two free throws.
He turns the ball over trying to throw the ball
inbound the ball to Luca the ball, and then he
doesn't take the last shot and kicks it over to
Austin reason he misses it at the end. That's just
that's an that's an embarrassing, devastating loss for the Lakers.
I mean to be in control and only score nineteen

(01:17:41):
points in the fourth quarter in a game four to
tie it up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
They were bad work.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
They were up ten, and they were up ten, and
then at one point you said, Carrie, Minnesota is up,
and I was like, how, when when did this happen?
They were just up. The Lakers were just up by
double digits. That three that you and I, yea, it
happened I think with the minute to go carry and
at that point the Lakers were up one thirteen. I'm

(01:18:07):
thinking that's the play home on. Let me double check
that Lakers were up one thirteen with about a minute
to go to one eleven against the Timberwolves and the
shot clock wasn't running now again about a minute and
he takes a deep three. Why why did you take
that three? I don't know it made no sense. Bad shot,
bad shot, bad decision to make when you were up

(01:18:29):
too and you did not need to take a three,
and the shot clock wasn't even expiring, So it was like,
were you feeling it because.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
I don't think I mean, he's for some reason, he
always does that three, and I don't know when he
hits it, I'm the happiest person in the world, but
he doesn't.

Speaker 10 (01:18:44):
Yeah he's not.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
I mean last game he was hitting it a lot,
but in this moment, this moment, and then right after
Jada McDaniels makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
And one and one, so it was just it was
had an and one one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
Yeah, yeah, he also had one too. It was I
just I don't know how to deal with a lot
of decision.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Was a bad loss, a bad loss that you absolutely
the series should be tied at to apiece, but bad
inbound passed and then you clearly fell Anthony Edwards like
clear as days.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Yeah, they weren't even looking for that foul though, they
were looking for the out of bounds ball. And then
they that the reps weren't looking for the foul. They
were looking for that out of bounds ball. But we
talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
We got to keep talking about this because there's so
much too.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Ya, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Fox Sports Sunday. We're still here. One more hour. What's up,
everybody Happy Sunday. I'm Montevillanos alongside my buddy and former
All Pro safd Carry Roads. No, we don't have any corn.
If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you've
got to You got to tune in and listen to
the podcast because it started an hour one and you

(01:19:48):
can't understand why Carrie Roads hates corn. Actually none of
us understand, but you're gonna have to listen to the podcast.
Here we are, as you just heard Martin Wise say
in the update to NBA games going down to the Wire,
We're gonna talk about the most recent one that just
ended Lakers and Timberwolves, who now lead the series three

(01:20:09):
to one, after a game that the Lakers should have won. Carrie,
they were up what felt like most of the game,
and obviously we're watching it here as we're doing the show,
but in the blink of an eye, a ten point
lead that the Lakers had was gone. Yep, when it
mattered the most in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Yeah, it was just talking. I looked up and I
was like, what whoa The Lakers are down two and
we're like what wow? When and then you see Anthony
all was end up with forty three points. So I'm
guessing he must have did a lot of damage that
in those moments we were having our other discussions.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Other discussions. Yeah, forty three points. Twelve of twenty three
from the field, five of ten from the three point line.
Now it seems like he went to them sorry, five
of ten from the three point line. From the free
throw line, fourteen of seventeen, so he definitely got found
a couple times there. For La listen, Luka Danchi once
again had a hot first quarter. I think he had

(01:21:02):
sixteen in the first quarter, which he's done this entire series.
Like it seems like the Timberwolves are like, you go
do that. Go ahead, We'll worry about everybody else. We're
gonna let you, We're gonna let you shine, and you
do you. But this other guy named Lebron James and
this other guy Austin Reeves, we're gonna shut them down.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
Yep, that's what the game plan has been. The game
plan is let Luca get his and we saw that
Game one when Luca had thirty something and one assist.
That was the game plan coming into the series. We're
gonna let Luca do his thing. We're gonna tire him
out on the other end by attacking him every possession
on the defensive end of the ball for him, and
then in the fourth quarter, he's not gonna have enough
to get it done. And that's what it looks like,

(01:21:41):
I mean. And then they are changing it up in
the fourth quarter, also mixing in coverages. They're blitzing them
a little bit, getting the ball out of his hands
and like you said, making the other guys beat them,
and they couldn't beat them today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
What you just said. There was a play in the
fourth quarter where Luca drove in maybe he tripped and
like fell, yeah, and then he just stayed there and
I was like, I Joe was like, he's tired, and
You're like, no, he is tired. And I was joking
because you're an NBA player and you're playing in the playoffs.
But he's tired. And it's not like, oh, I'm tired
from the dates. Because they are kind of suffocating him

(01:22:13):
in the sense of the defense. It's like we you
can take your your easy shots in the three point line.
But if you want to drive, we're gonna make it
a little bit harder for you if you want to
come in here in our home, in our court. H
Luca ended with thirty eight points. I mean, like, of course, yeah,
thirty eight points. Lebron James also went to the free

(01:22:34):
throw line a few times, fifteen of eighteen. He ended
with twenty seven points, twelve rebounds, and eight assists. Yeah,
so I thought maybe Anthony Edwards had the friendly whistle.
It looks like Lebron also had the friendly whistle, But
the Lakers have the friendly whistle most games, so I'm
not surprised about that. But Lebron questionable decisions in that
final minute, like why are you taking that deep three

(01:22:54):
when you're up by two with about a minute to go.
The shot clock was not expiring, and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
It's not how he usually shoots his threes. He's a
rhythm three point shooter, yes, and that was not one
of those.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
He was not stepping into it. It was not like
that at all. Then misses on the inbound pass and
loses the ball, and then fouls Anthony Edwards on a
ball that was deemed out of bounds. On Edwards and
that it was correct that it was off of his leg.
But then Minnesota challenges that when in reality they're challenging

(01:23:28):
something bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:23:29):
And let me talk about that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
So if you guys don't know when NBA teams challenge,
they have a new part of that challenge. Now that's
added to it where there's a proximity foul situation that
can happen. So everything that happens in that play when
it's being challenged, the referee can look at it. And
so when they look at the play, obviously when you
look at it in slow motion, Lebron fouls Anthony Edwards

(01:23:54):
and that's the reason the ball goes out of bound.
And so that's why Minnesota got the ball in Anthony
Edwards shot two free throws.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yes, the important thing you just said is proximity where
it's like if there was a foul happening away from
Lebron and Anthony Edwards. They also called that like they're
looking at the entire thing. But the big thing is
something has to be called. So we just saw also
earlier today the Pistons and the Knicks, a terrible way
to go down for the Pistons because a foul should

(01:24:20):
have been called. That was not There were no challenges.
But let's say that the Pistons did have a challenge,
it didn't matter because no call was made. You first
need to have a call to challenge, and that's what
happened here. So even though the Timberwolves were like, yeah, no,
the ball is off of Anthony Edwards, but what caused
that a foul? That's why we want you to go
see the whole play. Yes, and that call was overturned,

(01:24:42):
and Shay, our producer, was not happy about it. Your
emotional roller coaster that you went that we saw, Yeah,
you go through it is Yeah, no it didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
God Adam was on because I would be on the
air just like, oh my. But so I'm looking over
the stats now and I'm not even mostly pissed about
Lebron right now. So the same five players that started
the second half played the entire time. Really, they didn't
get any rest. Lebron played a game high of forty
six minutes. He didn't sit, This forty year old man

(01:25:16):
did not sit. The entire starting five that started the
second half did not sit. The only times they got
a breather was timeouts, timeouts and breaks. So I think
JJ Reddick needs to learn a few things from this game.
I understand he's a rookie coach, but this is just absurd.
It's it's getting to a point where it's like, yeah,

(01:25:38):
I understand we might not have anyone else, but what
do you expect to happen in the last two minutes
when you need these guys to press on the gas
and not make these crazy mistakes that you make when
you're tired like that. Lebron three makes way more sense
now that you were up by two. I'm saying it
makes sense because he didn't. He was tired, Like That's

(01:26:00):
what I'm saying. It's more of just everyone was tired.
It's like, I feel like anyone would have done it,
you know what I mean. It's more of like a
this is just like it was like just watching him,
like seeing this these stats now and then correlating it
with what I saw in the last five minutes. The
last five minutes makes sense. At first, it didn't make
any sense to me. I was like, why are we

(01:26:21):
doing this? Why is this happening? Why is Reeve's just
throwing that up? It didn't make sense to me. I
even said it to you during break I was like,
I don't understand why they're even giving reads the ball
right now? Sometimes offensively he was throwing at some points,
but everyone was tired, and they didn't get a single break,
and they were on the gas for what seems like
almost thirty minutes, and it's like, oh my god, you

(01:26:44):
need a JJ redick need I mean, you got to
put the bench in or something for the last like
seven minutes in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
They couldn't, right, they couldn't. Like that's and I were
up ten.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
You were up ten, but not late in the Yeah,
not late, but at least that's the that's the case
you need to do, Like are you kidding no subs
for two quarter?

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Are you kidding me? We're in the playoffs. You can't
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
No, you can't. But also, Lebron, you're over here saying like,
now I understood why you took that shot.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
I'll never under it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
But in reality, what is it? Is it, oh my gosh,
this man has been playing for twenty plus years, or
is it he's tired? Because if you've been playing for
twenty years, Lebron should in that moment, Carrie, wouldn't it
have been better if he actually like if the shot
clock expired, nothing happened, agree, because that led to a
deep rebound that led to Minnesota getting the next quick basket.

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
I'm not making excuses for him. I'm more just saying
it makes sense why he made such a dumb play. Okay, yeah,
I'm sorry, but the dude was tired, probably wasn't thinking.
I'm telling you right now, it was a horrible play. Lebron.
You should know better. I'm the biggest Lebron fan over
here and I'm hating on Lebron. It's like I'm doing
it on national radio too, So it's like a horrible play,

(01:27:59):
not a play that a goat should do. This is
going to take away from his legacy or whatever you
want to call it. A lot of MJ fans are
going to come up and be like, man, I'm J
would have never done that at me, but exactly so.
It's don't get me wrong, I think it's the dumbest
thing in the world. But at the same time, it's like,
I do think some blame should go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
To JJ Reddick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
I don't disagree with that completely. I feel like a
lot of times we don't we want to blame the
people who are on the court right, because it's like,
you have to be JJ can't do much on the side,
he can only do so much. But I feel like,
was it was it not putting in subs, Like I
don't I don't know if that was the problem here.

(01:28:40):
He obviously couldn't put in subs. The Lakers were up
by ten to start the fourth, they were up by
seven with five minutes to go, and they were up
by two with one twenty nine left.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's a meltdown. It's I mean,
obviously there's a lot of blame to go around at Shay.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
He's been watching.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
I'm sure the minutes you can't they're not going to
be able to play a whole second half against the
young Minnesota team.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Yeah, it was scoring forty two points, like forty three points.

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
It's like, but I also remember, say, like you know,
Van do wasn't having a great series. You can go
to Gaye Vnson probably, but who else would they have
gone to in that situation.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
So, I mean, Vandy's defense is good, though, who knows
if you put Vandy on ant right there, we didn't
need the offense when we were up ten to eleven points.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Yeah, who knows. If you put Vandy in, then I'm
sound like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
A Lakers podcast right now, who only played seven minutes?

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
Yeah, exactly, It's like, what do we I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
Maybe, I mean, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Compared to JJ Reddick obviously, but I feel like in
this scenario, Rest could have gone along with a long
and his his fresh legs. His defense would have been spectacular. Also,
if we're gonna, if we're gonna start naming people on
the Lakers that need to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:29:53):
Jackson Hayes, why you no, dude, No, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
His boys play four minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
It's because he's having the worst playoff like ever. Oh
my god, he hasn't done anything this entire time. We're
really buying into small ball right now, which is great,
don't get me wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
It's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
It's them, it's the future, it's the modern MBA. But
at the same time, when we're playing a team that
has Rudy Gobert Anthony Edwards who is going to drive
whenever he wants to, you can't play small ball unless
we're banging every three and today it wasn't that day.
Last game, Lebron was hot, went for five for nine.
This game not so much, especially when the forty year

(01:30:35):
old man can't even get down the entire hardwood without
having thinking maybe I should just throw this up hopefully
it goes in.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
So it's I need to stop. I'm just kissing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
I get it. Listen, I hear you. I like the passion.
I'm just wondering, like, let's say they did sit Lebron
in the fourth quarter and he didn't play as many
minutes and then you put in gave Vincent or whatever.
Are you going to be mad that gave Vincent didn't
do something like I feel like, no matter what the loss,
you maybe would have been saying the opposite, why did

(01:31:05):
we sit Lebron? We can't sit him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:07):
We need him out there, And that's that's all. That's
that's fandom, right, that is fandom. That's yeah, you know what.
Maybe I'm just being a sore loser right now. But
at the same time, it's like, dude, you kept the
same five in.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
For two that is yes, not even in the third
quarter they pulled anyone out.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
Yeah, it's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:31:28):
JJ. I'm a coach.

Speaker 5 (01:31:30):
If I did that to my girls in volleyball, I
would get people parents screaming at me saying why are
you This is unfair, blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
They need a break.

Speaker 5 (01:31:39):
I wout of the principle of the high school coming down,
being like what are you doing? Obviously it's not high school.
I get that, but it's just like in any situation,
it's crazy. I'm sorry, I'll let you go.

Speaker 4 (01:31:51):
Yeah, yeah, let's get let's get off that. Yeah that
that violin is really really time? Can we can we
talk about Steph?

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Yeah, we're gonna get We're gonna give Minnesota some credit.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Yes, absolutely traumatized, y'all please spare him.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
No, let's give Minnesota some credit for coming back right
in the game where we saw the game earlier with
Detroit New York. Detroit was down, was able to fight back,
get back in the game, and get a chance to
win the game. Minnesota was at home. They could have
easily folded with the pressure that the Lakers were giving
them this whole game. They were able to stick it out,
battle down the end the stretch there, pull out a

(01:32:32):
clutch win in Minnesota to put them up three one.
This series is over now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
I also feel like giving Timberwolves just credit for the
whole series because I thought really that they would fold
in situations where they were going to be tested. I
thought this, I thought this was going to be the
Lakers win the series in close games every single time.
But when when the going gets going, I thought Timberwolves

(01:32:58):
were gonna fold. To be honest with you, I did.
I don't trust Rudy Gobert. Nobody does. That's not that's
not a hot take. I don't trust Rudy Gobert. I
also just thought that Julius Randall was gonna be fine.
But they've been. He's been great.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
He's under control and under control.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
And then Anthony Edwards has actually in all the games
stepped up when he needed to. Every single time that
they needed him to do something, he did. And to
be honest, I didn't expect that. I really didn't against
the Lakers. It's a psychological thing, right, Like if the
Timberwolves were playing the Clippers or playing like another team,
I was like, oh, no, they're they're probably gonna win.
But against the Lakers, I was like, it's a psychological thing.

(01:33:40):
I feel like, when it's gonna get tough and gritty,
they're gonna fold. And that's what I thought going into
the season, and that's why I thought the Lakers would
win all close games. I didn't think anyone was gonna
blow anyone out, but I did think the Lakers would
win because of that. And so give credit to him,
all of them, all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
And remember we talked about this before the playoffs started.
I said, do not this this this credit Minnesota, I said,
and I did this. I know, yeah, this this team,
this team just they were just in the Western Conference
finals last year. They know how to win. This isn't
something new to them now anymore. So the thing that
they would fold in these moments, I think that was

(01:34:16):
a little bit of I think an easy assessment because
I think we can look at that and say, they
got Lebron, Lebron, the Lakers got Lebron and Luca, they
got the two closers.

Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
They're gonna win the tight game.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Absolutely, that's what I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
Anthony was the closer as well, Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Edwards a closer and proving it to me and everyone
else who just didn't see it. Honestly, I I good
for them, Good for them, for them who I did
think was going to have a great series. I just
didn't think he was going to deliver when it mattered
the most, especially game after game after game, Like, good

(01:34:50):
for you guys. Uh speaking of delivering, Steph Curry, Chef Curry,
Chef Curry has delivered. Everybody was waiting for playoff Jimmy Butler.
So it is a real thing. It is a real thing.
But man, we we forgot that Steph playoff. Steph Curry
is a real thing. I could not believe that they won.

(01:35:12):
I'm not gonna lie to you yesterday against Houston, I can't.
I cannot. But without Jimmy, I was like, there's no way. Yeah,
there's no way, because if I'm Houston, I'm gonna come
out a step on your throat.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Yeah, And we talked about that, and you gotta you
have to earn the killer mentality. You do not just
go out there and say I'm going to go out
and step on somebody's neck like you have to do it.
Do it. It's almost like you got to go through
attrition to get to that point. You got to go
through losing, You got to go fighting the struggle to
get to have that killer mentality.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
And so, yes, Steph.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Curry was great, he played well, But I want to
talk about the Rockets not getting the job done. This
is a game they had to win without Jimmy. They
came out it looked like they were going to get
that done. They were by double did double did that game.
Early Steph had a slow start. They were smothering Stead
where he didn't get he didn't get the looks. And
then somewhere in between there they got disjointed and lost

(01:36:09):
their way and now they're in trouble. They needed this game.
They allow Golden State to get it and Steph Curry
did with Steph Curry does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
And you can't let Steph feel like, oh I got
this because the shots he was making it was like no,
a hand in his face. Like So if you don't
like Steph, I get it, because that dude probably makes
grown men cry in the locker room and they just
he just doesn't know because it's incredible how quickly he

(01:36:39):
shoots that ball. Crazy, it's crazy, like giving, I asked
Mark Medina, do we not give him enough credit? Because
I feel like the ones who talk about him are
his fans, right, But if you're not talking about him,
you're not talking about how he moves to get open,
how he moves to get his teammates open. He does
so much off the ball, and then when he releases

(01:36:59):
that in the.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Tense of a second, it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
It's ridiculous. It is amazing to watch.

Speaker 10 (01:37:06):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
I can't take anything away from them at this point
in this career.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
It's it's beautiful with Houston, though, I get what you're
saying that they they let it slip.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Like hear you, they played They played terrible MASSI down
the stretch. I mean, they were so immature about the
way they played the game.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
But is it what I said going into the series,
it was like, who's gonna score for Houston? Yeah, consistently? Okay,
and Shingoon they have to aside from but Jalen Green
has had one great game, one great game this series
and then has kind of like he's fine, but you
need it's the playoffs. Now, who else is going to
consistently score? Van Vliet Fred van Vliet champion but has

(01:37:44):
not inconsistent in the series, and so and that was
like what I wondered, who, Okay, I'll prin Shingoon great,
Then who's gonna score that you can say, hey, go
get me a basket.

Speaker 10 (01:37:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
It's tough.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
And I feel like that was a part of this
as well. When the Warriors started making their comeback, he
says like, oh my, who's gonna score for us? Who's
going to keep up with this maniac? Making three is
like nobody's business. Very annoying, very annoying. Does Steph have
the killer mentality you think he does?

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
He has it? Does Lebron have it sometimes?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Sometimes? When he was laughing it up with Anthony Edwards
and that was that a killer mentality show? Because let
me tell you, like, Kawhi doesn't do that. But Kawhi
is not very doesn't have a lot of personality, right,
So I'll give him that. But like when I saw
Lebron laughing with Anthony Edwards in Game of three after
being down in that moment, I was like, what are

(01:38:40):
you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:38:40):
Pissed me off? I'm very angry right now over everything.
It's just I'm gonna turn my mic off. CC doesn't
let me say the majority of the stuff I want.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
To say that, but it's crazy though. Okay, yeah, we'll talk.
We can talk about that part a little bit more on.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Lebron on the the other end. Yeah, let's talk about
that really quickly, that moment, that moment, all right, all right, right?

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The killer mentality that some players have and some players

(01:39:27):
just don't, don't go anywhere. It's Fox Sports Sunday. Nice,
that's good. No, that is not Pharrell. That is Carrie Rhoades,
former All Pro safety And I am Moncey Belano's here
with you hanging out on this Sunday Fox Sports Radio.

(01:39:47):
Does Fharrel have the killer mentality?

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
No, I don't think he is a lover. He is
a lover. Oh so you can't be a lover and
have a killer mentality, Kobe Bryan, I think we a lover.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
He was a lover at first, and then he went
to the killer mentality, and then he went to the
killer and then he went back to a lover at
the end, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
He went back to ice. So it's one or the other.

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
Ye according to watch them skateboard boys, them skater boys,
the real killers.

Speaker 4 (01:40:15):
Think the girl got it in them.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
He may like he's like you said, you could be
a lover and then maybe you turn it off. But
you can't be both at the same at the same time.
I get that. Uh, we were just discussing this. If
you missed it, that Lebron James in Game three against
the Minnesota Timberwolves. They were down I think seven, and
there's a video and you can find it everywhere of
him laughing it up with Anthony Edwards, who again is

(01:40:40):
having a great series against you. But you're like laughing
it up and being like all friendly, friendly whatever, Like
what are we doing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
Don't do that. Don't do that right now, not right now.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
I know your friends, we know you spent the Olympics together,
but right now you're in a heated series that you
are now trailing.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Do not do that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
I have my barber who's a one hundred LA fan.
He texts me after the game and say, I know
you will get this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
Why is Lebron talking to this guy during the game,
during the game, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Like the whole thing, like you have lost a game
in the regular season, and then you don't even high
five everybody and you lead immediately to the locker room.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
So like, what is it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
Is it that you're tough and you're too good to
say goodbye to a player after the game, or are
you this guy who just wants to be friends with everybody?
And that's what I think he is. I feel like
he just wants everyone to like him. And I'm like, Lebron,
you don't need to be liked. You're Lebron James, and
you know what everybody does. I feel like people do
like you, you know what I mean? Why do you

(01:41:43):
have to have that moment with Anthony Edwards right there?

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
I didn't like the moment at all. No, not in
the competitive nature of what's going on at that time.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
No, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
No, don't don't do that right then and there. I
don't care if your friends after the game, yes, when
actually I do. Don't talk to him the whole series.
Actually that's what I want. Don't talk to him the
whole series. Don't be friends with him until you're done
playing with him exactly, but in the middle of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
Wasn't a good look.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
It's not a good look. And then it's like people
already talk about how you don't have that in you,
and then here you're doing that in game three.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Just giving ad and fuel to the fire for the
haters to come out, because that's all it is. And
I'm not even the hater, but seeing that moment was
just like, don't why Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Not to bring Shaye back into this, sorry Shaye, but
you're the Lakers fan here when.

Speaker 4 (01:42:29):
I brought this up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
When I brought this up to you, you were like, yeah,
but he's been around for so many years, you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:35):
Know, like he's just like I think he's gotten too comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Gotten too comfortable, and it's just I would hate that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
I hate that right now too. Yeah, I say that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Martin Wisse over there at the news desk. Actually, Martin,
tell us about this killer mentality that Lebron doesn't have,
and why don't you tell us what's going on in
the world of sports.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
You know, I'm choosing positivity right now.

Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
How about Anthony Edwards, Yeah, giant killer, Yeah, Kevin Durant
last year, Seeya, Nicole Jokis last year, see you Lebron
James this year on the verge uh.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12):
Seeya, luka dudets take that one with you.

Speaker 8 (01:43:17):
Three one Minnesota series lead one, sixteen to one thirteen.
The final score Anthony Edwards forty three points, nine rebounds,
six assists helped the Lakers, I mean, helped the Timberwolves
outscore the Lakers thirty two to nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
In the fourth quarter.

Speaker 8 (01:43:31):
Lebron James twenty seven points, twelve rebounds, eight assists.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
But if you listened to the last ten minutes of
this show, it's not enough.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Nope.

Speaker 8 (01:43:38):
The Knicks beat the Pistons ninety four to ninety three
after a referee didn't call a foul on Tim Hardaway Junior,
who was attempting a three pointer as time expired. Would
have won the game had the shot going in, or
had he been allowed to attempt the free throws without
a shot too, But officials came out after the game
saying there should have been a foul called.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
There was the foul call, so everybody was very satisfied
with that ending. The Knicks lead that series three to
one as well. Right now, game in progress.

Speaker 8 (01:44:10):
About twenty seconds left in the first quarter of the
Celtics with a thirty to twenty seven lead over the Magic,
Drew Holiday sitting this one out. Jason Tatum with ten
points Paolo Bancaro with twelve for the Magic. Boston leads
this series two games to one. In the NHL, at
the end of the first perier scoreless between Montreal and Washington,
Washington leads the series two games to one. The Blues

(01:44:33):
beat the Jets five to one, tied that series up
to two in the Western Conference. In the Eastern Conference
side of things, the Hurricanes beat the Devils five to two.
Carolina with a three to one series lead there for
the Yankees in the second game of a doubleheader four
to won the lead over the Blue Jays at the
top of the eighth inning. Earlier today, beat that same

(01:44:55):
Blue Jays team eleven to two in the first game
of those doubleheaders. Sunday Night baseball, the Cubs and the
Phillies tides scoreless top of the second inning. Nationals came
back to beat the Mets eight to seven. Tigers beat
the Oriel seven and nothing. Twins again blink, I mean
twins blank the Angels five to nothing. Red Sox beat
the Guardians thirteen to three. Astros over Royals seven to three.

(01:45:19):
The Brewers beat the Cardinals seven to one. The Reds
over the Rockies eight to one. Giants beat the Rangers
three to two. White Sox I'm sorry. The Athletics days
came back extra innings. It beat the White Sox three
to two. Diamondbacks four to six over the Braves, Mariners
seven to six over the Marlins. Dodgers beat the Pirates

(01:45:40):
nine to two, des probably losing starting pitcher in the
was that second inning?

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
The Rays beat the Padres four to two.

Speaker 8 (01:45:46):
Padres twelve and four at home right there right Dodgers
and Padres right there right there in.

Speaker 4 (01:45:52):
Eighteen ten, seventeen and eleven for San diego back to
you all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:56):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Mardres lost to a a row at home here after start.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Yeah, yeah, to to to the race. That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
Yeah.

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(01:46:27):
we are gonna have a little fun in just a second.
But I just wanted to give a little bit of credit,
just a smidge, to Pallo Bancro in the Magic. Okay,
they have actually made it fun. Like I know that
the Celtics are gonna win, right, Like this is not
a question. Yeah, but I want I want to see
some good basketball. And every time I've tuned in to

(01:46:50):
watch that game, they the Orlando Magic are fighting tooth
and nail till the end of the game, and Palo
Bancaro is just so much fun to watch. Again, no
one's expecting you to win. Yeah you won one, And
I was like, great, you got one. They're so fun
to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:47:06):
They are. They're gonna be good. They're gonna be good
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
Yeah, they get healthy, get Jayalen slugs back, add a
couple of shooters around, they help that team.

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
They'll be they'll be around for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
I literally can just sit and watch Paalo ban Carroll
highlights my dookie yea every time, every single you guys were.

Speaker 5 (01:47:21):
Talking about physical earlier. That's probably the most physical team
in the NBA, and I love watching them because of that.
I think that's one of the main reasons I do
love watching them is because of how physical they are.
They bring that old style of NBA back, and that's
something that I think a lot of us wish. I mean,
I'm too young to even say that old style of NBA,
but it's like I see the Hardwook Classics and it's
like something that the only comparable team that I really

(01:47:44):
can say that does it or Lando Magic. Celtics have
a big problem with it. But I mean, hey, they're
probably gonna win, but it's exciting to watch. They make
it exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
They make it exciting to watch, and you don't get
that with every series and with them, it's like I
feel like I'm watching knowing Celtics are gonna win, and
I still want to watch because I just don't know
what Orlando might do or what Pallo ban Carol might do,
which I see you guys, Like I said, I feel
like I see a lot of Lebron in him, a
big dude that can move quickly and I and every
every year, I mean it's only been two three years. Three,

(01:48:14):
I feel like a little bit better every single time,
and so it it's just exciting. And so I just
wanted to say thank you Magic for making the series
exciting even though we are all expecting the Celtics to win. Yes, yes,
but we appreciate it. All right, how about a little
easy as one, two, three, four squadro yes fascis squadro ayesda.

(01:48:36):
If you've never listened to the show and heard this
part of our show, uh, it's easy. It's fun. Carrie
can use his lifelines Martin Say and Mary to figure
out these simple questions where he doesn't even have to
give me the whole answer, just a piece of the answer.
And I'm never trying to be sneaky.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
Don't get never trying to be sneaky.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
All right, we got a little we got hockey, we've
got baseball, we've got NBA, we got it all in
this one today, all right, Carrie, all right, give me
one of two teams with the most Stanley.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
Cup wins, one of two teams with the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Most Stanley Cup wins in NHL history.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Let's say it's got to be. Some of those Canadian teams.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Are you are you pointing at something shay Shy wants
to be a lifeline?

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
Does it is one of the Canadian teams?

Speaker 5 (01:49:39):
I'm sure and that that that word Canadian as a
as a big tip the Canadian.

Speaker 4 (01:49:48):
Yes, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Is that our final answer?

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
All right, show me Canadians. That is correct, very well done.
In fact, they have the most did you know that?

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Show?

Speaker 4 (01:50:02):
I did know that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
You didn't know that?

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
Okay, Moggy fan, you are.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
I'm glad the most twenty three Stanley Cup wins for
the Montreal Canadians Toronto maple Leaves. So you're right again
those teams up there, yep, they've won thirteen, the maple
Leaves and then the Detroit Red Wings with I had
so you were there, but no, nicely done on that.
All right, moving on here? All right, give me two

(01:50:28):
of the three players to score the most points in
a single playoff game in the NBA, A single playoff game.
Two of the three players to score the most points, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
Would say, Jordan. Okay, And I will say does that
one hundred playing game count?

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Was that a playoff?

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Poff playoff game? Okay? Okay, we're in theme with it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
Okay, I get you bad. I'm focused on Lebron on
the screen. I guess I'm going to say Jordan and
I you said two right, two of the three? I
mean Lucas up there too. But let me think playoff game, playoff, Yeah,
Alan Irison, let.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
Me think, Uh, you've got live lines.

Speaker 4 (01:51:15):
I got Jordan for sure, Martin, Martin, look alive, you
got another one? What is it? The highest is the
what's the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Points scored in a playoff game? NBA playoff game?

Speaker 8 (01:51:29):
That's Jordan that I got two of the three? O
two three is Jordan's sixty three? I know that most
I know that, And so I don't know if this
is the second or third. But Donovan Mitchell at fifty
seven with the Jazz, uh in the bubble. The bubble
don't count.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
It does.

Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
This is a laker, but it does. All right? Okay,
you think it's too hard, No, No, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
You want to go, Donovan Michelle, Alright, show me MJ
that is correct. Sixty three points in game two of
the nineteen eighty six first round playoffs against the Celtics.
Show me Donovan Mitchell, nicely done. Seventy points Jazz Game one,
twenty twenty against the Nuggets. He's the third. So in

(01:52:20):
the second Elgin Baylor sixty one points wow in nineteen
sixty two against the Celtics. Other after them, so Jimmy Butler,
Charles Barkley, MG again, Wilt Chamberlain all have fifty six.
So you got it right. But we'll finish this on
the other side. See how Carrie does. Don't go anywhere.
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(01:52:42):
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you for hanging out. It's been fun, it's been wild.
It's been a typical Sunday right for us in the
middle of NBA playoffs, NHL Playoffs, and the NFL raft
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(01:53:06):
the ones and twos Yes keeping us hip with this music.
She really does. She really does, and she knows about
prank calling. She gets it what we were doing. Uh Shae,
our producer, Thanks Shay. I'm sorry about the Lakers. No,
I'm not Martin on the up on the updates, even
though I forgot about him in the second hour. But
it's okay, Martin, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Uh, let's wrap up this easy as uno dostre squadro.
All right, so you're you're pretty good right now. You've
got the first two. And I didn't give you an
over under to start.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
You didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
I did it because I really don't know about these
next two questions, so I don't know how hard they are.
So I'm gonna six six and a half six and
a half.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
Oh my goodness, no, is that too much?

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Five and a half, five and a half half? Okay, okay,
all right, but right now you're good, okay, all right,
and you still got your lifelines. It's okay, all right,
let's go on to baseball. Here, give me three of
the four teams with the best MLB record right now?

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Oh uh, I'll go pres I guess I think the
Dodgers are still in that mix. Can I look at
the teams?

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
You can look at the teams.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
That's so I have the reference for the team. I
won't no, because I look, I think the records. I
don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:20):
If anybody, let's see, you got three or four is
what we're looking for.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
Three or four, three or fourres Dodgers, and uh oh,
there's got to be somebody out on the other on
the other side on the season right now with the
records right now, just the American League. But do you
have someone you and there's another one in the same

(01:54:48):
the Cubs. The Cubs are up there too. Giants. You
sure because the Cubs and the Giants are really close,
I promise you.

Speaker 8 (01:54:55):
Okay, Giants, it's three best records in Major League Baseball, three.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
The three or the four Giants is one of them.
I got Dodgers. I think you guys are I think
it's Giants Dodgers. One more, go ahead, Martin Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Giants.

Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
Yes, the Giants have been playing well, but.

Speaker 5 (01:55:17):
The Giants were at the top of the league, in
front of the Dodgers for a while. I know they
lost their last game. Well, it's a good thing that
they are eighteen. They have eighteen winsy, I know they
have eighteen wins and the Dodgers have seventeen. Right well,
after today they have eighteen.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
The Mets have the most wins in baseball, yes they do,
even though they blue today.

Speaker 4 (01:55:35):
They have the most wins in base then, yeah, you
have to have our answers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
What are the three that you are? Tigers?

Speaker 4 (01:55:42):
They have eighteen? Yeah, this season, the Tigers got eighteen,
right the Giants. Did the Giants win today? I will
tell you the Tigers, so I don't trust me. I
know the Mets's Martin's So which one you meet?

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Three or the four?

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
I go Mets Mets. Okay, Dodgers aren't even in this.

Speaker 5 (01:55:58):
Okay, no, but the Dodgers have eighteen though, Oh my god, monceys.

Speaker 4 (01:56:05):
Smart is that it? You got Mets? And who else?

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
I know?

Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
I know the Mets despite one Mets.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
I know the out there, so we've got Ma's give
me two more.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
There's got to be something in the American I really
think it's either. I think it's Mets, Giants, Dodgers. I
don't even think Dodgers are in there.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
But I let's go Mets, Mets Padres for sure, and
then you want to go Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
I feel like the Giants won today, did they? I
know they lost yesterday?

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
You guys decide, because all right, carry you got it, Cars, Dodgers, Mets,
All right, show me the Mets. Okay, that is correct,
they have the best record right now in nineteen and nine.
Show me the Dodgers. Yes, with today's when they are eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
And tex it's the Giants. It is probably Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
Is it the Padre? Now? The Padres are there, they're
seventeen and eleven.

Speaker 4 (01:57:04):
They lost two in a row though, that's what exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
The Giants are nineteen and ten and the Tigers.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
Tigers are eighteen and there was the Giants.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
So the Tigers are also up there. That's bad not
to be.

Speaker 4 (01:57:17):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
Let's move on.

Speaker 10 (01:57:19):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
Last one here, guys, give me four of the five
NBA teams with the most consecutive playoff appearances. Not right now,
but over the course of history, four of the five
NBA teams had the most consecutive playoff appearances.

Speaker 4 (01:57:34):
Oh, not the Celtics for sure. Yeah, it's definitely the Celtics.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
I would guess the Lakers have to be in there
as well, right, uh, Pistons, the Sixers.

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 8 (01:57:49):
No, longest consecutive secretary of all time of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
Hold on, let's let's let's let's go get we gotta
hurry up.

Speaker 8 (01:57:56):
Boston, Boston Los Angeles saying Tonio, Oh, I'll go San Antonio.

Speaker 4 (01:58:04):
I'd want to say.

Speaker 8 (01:58:05):
The Miami Heat, the heat maybe, And I feel like
the Pistons are the fifth Pistons, right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:13):
How many books the fors or Bulls?

Speaker 9 (01:58:15):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:58:16):
To be honest, you know, Boston LA. I know that
the Bulls have been terrible as long as Michael Jordan
wasn't there. Yes, but Michael Jordan was there. But that
was six That was what we said. Come on, let's
go right, go go to LA.

Speaker 4 (01:58:27):
You said San Antonio.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
Spurs, Celtics, LA, and you said Boston did say so Boston, LA,
Spurs and go pist Pistons.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
Let's do it. I think sixers, but go Pistons. We'll
see what that's sounds.

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Six Ers, show me Spurs the most twenty two from
nineteen ninety eight to twenty eighteen. Show me the Celtics
they're actually fifth with nineteen nineteen fifty one to nineteen
sixty nine. Is it LA what they may be under
the Celtics? Is it the Pistons? No, you were right

(01:59:03):
with the seventies six twenty two Trailblazers twenty one from
nineteen eighty threety two thousand and three, Jazz twenty, and
that's it.

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