On today’s episode, Jason discusses Matthew Stafford's narrow NFL MVP win over Drake Maye and why one voter voted for Justin Herbert, why the Los Angeles Lakers have to be considered the favorites to land Giannis Antetokounmpo this offseason, and how the Los Angeles Clippers stole the show at the NBA Trade Deadline. Plus, former NFL quarterback Matt Hasselbeck swings by to share his insight on who has the edge in the upcoming Super Bowl showdown between the New England Patriots and the Seattle Seahawks. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with his Best Bets for the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Straight Fire Fame.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Bowyer For Friday, February the sixth,
it is Super Bowl weekend, ladies and gentlemen, final weekend
of the football season.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oddly, I don't mind admitting this.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I told the wife this week, I'm kind of excited
the football season's ending, kind of excited.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm worn down, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I actually got sick this week.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I was gonna go up to San fran to Cowherd's
volume party for the day and I just was like,
I'm not feeling good. Actually to just sit down and
take a nap. Thursday afternoon before my men's league basketball game,
I was so gassed, and we ended up winning.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I know, you don't care.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I it was actually the tougher league, and I had
been struggling in the first two games, and I had
a couple threes in this one, which was nice.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Again.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The USC point guard, former USC point guard, he's very strong.
He was misseds some guys. We didn't have a couple guys.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Overall.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, good game, we won handily, but you know,
Super Bowl weekend is here, and I'm like you know
it's it's just a weird super Bowl. We got Matt Hasselbeck,
former Seahawks quarterback, coming on the show a little bit
later to talk about Drake May and youth sports. If
you're into that, I love you know, I love youth sports.
A lot of dad listening to this podcast and a
(01:27):
couple of moms literally too. And I think you like
what Hassleback has to say. We talk Super Bowl MVP potential.
I have a surprise name for you. I will be
doing props in a little bit and my official pick
and all that fun stuff. I did write up props
for the site. It went up posted. You could tell
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which way I'm leading on the game if you haven't
been paying attention. And before I get to that, though,
as I watched the Lakers Sixers final minutes here Lakers
great comeback in the fourth quarter, Luca out in the
second half with a leg injury, Austin Reeves and trying
to hold it down. But before we get to that,
I just need to quickly talk about this MVP voting.
So Thursday night at some NFL award show in San
(02:08):
Fran Yes I'm gonna say San Fran, sorry, not SF
or San Francisco. It's just easier to say San Fran.
I don't care that people don't like San Fran, like
I don't care if you. When I moved out here,
somebody told me, oh, you can't say so Cal. I'm like,
why it's so much either than Southern California. I like
to abbreviate stuff anyway. MVP voting, this is how it went.
(02:32):
Matthew Stafford twenty four votes, Drake May twenty three votes,
Josh Allen two votes, Justin Herbert one vote, and there's
all this Ajeta in New England. How could you vote
for Justin Herbert? Oh my gosh, you ruined it. We
should have had a tie. So the last tie was
(02:54):
in two thousand and three, Peyton Manning and Steve Air
McNair shared award, and one could argue, yeah, like I
don't get the Herbert vote.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I will quickly point out a.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Couple of analytics say that Justin Herbert had no business
being near the MVP. According to Pro Football Focus, Justin
Herbert was the eleventh best quarterback. Drake May was six
according to EPA at the website running backs still don't Matter.
It's actually a pretty good site, Drake May was the
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number one EPA quarterback. Now we did talk about that,
I think before the final, before the AFC Championship, about
how he weirdly became the number one EPA quarterback because
he took forty seven sacks, which is a ton for
a guy who's the number one EPA quarterback. But he
thrived on big plays, quarterback scrambles and its completion percentage.
You kind of hacked EPA. Anyways, in EPA, May was one,
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PERTY was two, Stafford five, Herbert sixteen. So by some analytics,
Herbert had no biness being near the MVP. But the
guy who voted for Herbert, Sam Monson, He's been on
this podcast. He's a former pro football focused guy. His
logic was essentially, hey man, justin Herbert didn't have his
two tackles and performed heroically.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The second Stafford's offensive line broke down, he was playing
like a really poor quarterback and his numbers showed that.
So I don't want to go overboard with hey man,
this guy was way wrong with this justin Herbert nonsense.
I thought Herbert was excellent. He had a great regular season.
Remember it's a regular season.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Award.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Drake May was good. I didn't think he was amazing.
He did lead the league in completion of percentage, and
the big plays obviously helped. I thought Josh Allen was fantastic.
I just thought it was Stafford. I thought Stafford was
the guy. And I can't hate voting for Herbert in
this spot, like was Herbert. If you asked me Jay Mackay,
Herbert or May, who you got, who would you take?
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I'm just being honest. I would take Herbert now, who
had the better season. I would lean May. But is
that skewed because of the postseason. If we did this
vote publicly right after the regular season and they handed
out the award right after the regular season, I don't
think we would have this much issue with it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now. May is in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Which has everybody all fired up. He threw for like
eighty yards in the AFC Championship game. He complete a
percentage in the three playoff games was like fifty seven
percent or something. Let's not act like May's been great
this postseason.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But Jay Weather, what about the weather?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Just like subtle down, guys, it's all the as Hasselback
will use the word massholes getting fired up about Drake
May not being an MVP.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Anyways, the big news with Stafford said he's coming back
next year, which should be a no surprise to anyone.
Obviously he's coming back. You don't win the MVP and
then retire. I mean, you retire when you're like Peyton
Manning and washed and you win the Super Bowl to Broncos.
That's okay, time to retire. So I definitely don't disagree
with the Stafford MVP, and I.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Don't disagree with the Herbert vote.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean, listen, the guy what Herbert as MVP over May,
and I don't think that's the worst. I don't think
that's the most egregious decision in NFL voting history.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
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Speaker 3 (06:28):
All right, let's go to the NBA now, before we
get to Matt Hasselbeck quickly, Lakers do hold off the
Sixers for a really nice win. Austin reeves thirty five
points in twenty five minutes off the bench. This Luca
thigh hamstring situation doesn't sound great. Almost certainly will not
play against the Warriors Saturday night. Steph Curry, by the way,
sat out last night against the Suns. I'm assuming they
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want him one hundred percent fresh for the big game
Saturday against the Lakers. And my guess is you just
shut Luca down through the All Star break. I guess
he We don't need him playing any All Star game,
just we need him for for the second half. You know,
Lakers are on a good spot in the West. I've
got a legit chance to get a top four seed
and home court advantage as of now. This SGA injury,
(07:11):
I do wonder if the Spurs could could chase him
down where it like the fifty game mark, there's like
thirty games left. SGA probably out two weeks. We'll see
with the abb they surely don't want to force anything.
The Nuggets can't stay healthy. I saw Peyton Watson just
went down. He's gonna be out a couple of weeks,
maybe longer. Houston crumbling a little bit, so Lakers right there,
four or five? You get the four, I mean, obviously
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you'd be ideally you get the three. You want to
avoid OKC in the second round, but it's a logjam there. Rockets, Lakers,
Wolves all right about the same spot. I think we
would assume the Suns will fade a little, but real quick.
So Jannis did not get dealt and Giannis, I don't
know this is I don't think this is a great
look for him. You guys, tell me what you think.
So after the trade deadline passed, Jannis goes on Twitter
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and like, I mean, I just don't really understand why
he would do this, But like, everybody knows you want
out of Milwaukee. It's like the worst kept secret in
the league. Everybody knows it. So he goes out after
the trade deadline and writes, legends don't chase. They attract
one hundred like the one keep it one hundred emoji
(08:22):
and then the sunglasses with the shades emoji, and then
Luke Luca Leonardo DiCaprio from Wolf of Wall Street saying.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm not ever going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
What are you doing, dude? Everybody knows you're not gonna
be there. You can act like this, but the Bucks
don't want you to play. They want to tank for
as high a pick as possible. They don't want you
coming back because you're not staying. It's so goofy. And
for these reporters to be out there like it's a
three team race, it was a no team race.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nobody was off or anything.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Good.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Warriors get not even close. I never bought bought the
Warrior smoke. The Minnesota stuff kind of sort of made
some sense. Miami Heat stuff was never even close. So
now the team to watch, if we're being one thousand
percent honest, is the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
In the summer.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
They're gonna have something like eighty million dollars coming off
the books. Guys, they're gonna have the money for Gianni's.
The problem is is Austin reeves and you know, three
or four number ones and whatever else they've got. Is
that gonna cut it? Or can someone blow that out
of the water. I would take keep an eye on
the Orlando Magic and Palo Banko. If they flame out
of the playoffs early, they're gonna do something. I know
(09:34):
people don't think, oh, Orlando, Jy's not gonna go.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Why wouldn't he go there?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You're in the East.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The Florida's a great tax date, you save even more money.
And they got a damn good roster. I mean, they
just can't really get it together right now. Seventh in
the in the lowly East, but they easily could go
up as high as four with the second half, with
all the talent they have. The big trade that went
down Thursday was the LA Clippers. So a day or
(09:59):
a two days after trading James Harden, they decide we
are gonna move Aviza Zubac to the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Now Zubak is a really good center. I don't know
if he's like a top seven center in the league
something around there. But he goes to Indiana.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Remember they lost Miles Turner, obviously he's on the Bucks.
Now Zubats goes to the Pacers. Here's what Indiana had
to give up, though, Ben Matherin, who I like a
lot to get from Arizona Isaiah Jackson, two first round picks,
one second round pick.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Also they get the Pacers get Kobe Brown. So my
issue with Ben Matherin is that he's only been in
the league for four years. He's twenty three to twenty
four years old.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why are you giving up on him so early?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now, I get it, you needed a center for next season, right,
You've got to get somebody to replace Miles Turner. Now,
Miles Turner was a stretch center, could go out and
hit through. Did not have a great series in the
finals against Okac. Obviously, he's really good u Zubats. But
(11:11):
without Miles Turner, Indiana just like they wreaked twenty eighth
in the league in points allowed in the paint this year,
they can't stop anybody. So Zubats is a really good center.
He's perfect for Halliburton on the pick and roll. He's
a really I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
The Lakers had him back in the day.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
He was good.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
They whiffed giving up on him. I think he's a
good player. My thing is, I really like Matherin a lot.
I think a Matherin Garland backcourt is pretty damn spicy.
I mean, Matherin's good, averaging seventeen and five this season. Now,
he said the final year of his rookie deal. Obviously,
Indiana was reluctant to extend him. I don't totally understand why.
(11:48):
I'm sure some Pacers fans who are in the know
could tell me. You know, they've got some some other
guys they've drafted who are really good and young, and
obviously Nemhard.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I love TJ. McConnell, quintessential reserve.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Nie Smith is kind of in his position, not as
offensive minded, but a better defender. Ben Shephard is young
and promising. I like Cam Jones, the kid out of Marquette,
but he hasn't shown much yet. Again, he's super young.
I mean, well, he's only twenty three, but he's it
is his first year in the league. But they clearly
like something, and they're trying this kid, Johnny Furfey from Kansas,
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who I don't really know what we I don't think
anybody can know what he is. Matherin is a bucket.
Maybe there's some maturity issues there, but Matherin and Garland
is that not bad foundation for the paper clips? And
you're buying low on a guy similar to how the
Pistons gave up on Jade and Ivy. I think Jade
and Ivy could be some those guys. These guys are
not in their prime yet. NBA prime is closer to
(12:49):
like twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine, especially for
these guards.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Twenty four.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You're still young, You're still learning how to play, so
I don't I don't hate that deal at all. I
think both teams are kind of win win. Obviously, Saturday
night is a big night in the NBA, and then
the NBA will like kind of move to the side
on Sunday for the Super Bowl. And with that, let's
move to our guest, Matt Hasselback, former NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know, Jason likes to think he knows everything when
it comes to sports. I know what sports fans want,
but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A legendary quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He's this is some week for him, his Seahawks in
the Super Bowl. Matt Hasselbeck. I see him every week
on The Herd. I think I've interviewed him once or twice. Maybe, Matt,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Cut you mic man, They cut your mic.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, well, you say so many inflammatory things. I'm trying
to jump in there and tell cow Herd he's wrong,
but I gotta I gotta pas right where Jason wisraw.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, I've been wrong about the Seahawks a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I know he's your guy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The only question for me Seattle blowout, Seattle close game
is Sam Darnold. And you've seen a lot of quarterbacks
in your time. I can't recall anybody I've seen go
through this high pick. Big Lows looked like he was
gonna be like a back up the rest of his career,
and now maybe he's gonna be like a Super Bowl MVP.
This is like movie stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, but let's go back. Okay, he was played at USC.
Quite honestly, I don't think he was pro ready. That
offense not to throw stray bullets, but like that offense
didn't prepare you for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And he was like twenty years old.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I mean, he couldn't buy a beer and he's playing
for the Jets, like can't rent a car, and he's like, oh,
but here are the keys to the Jets. You know,
Like doesn't make sense they had Josh McCowan on the roster.
He's the perfect like tape be the punching bag, show
me how to be a pro quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
He's the perfect guy.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Andy Reid did it for Donovan McNabb with Doug Peterson.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Hey day, Doug, go take a beating on our team.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That's not quite ready yet, and then Donovan learned from
him all year and then you bring your all world
ability and then we're cooking right.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean, you see it happened. Patrick Mahomes sat behind
Alex Smith did the same thing whole season. So the
fact that they.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Just the Jets, surprise, surprise, they don't know what they're
doing with the quarterback, like, hey, here you go, help us.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Twitter said that you're supposed to start. Everyone else is starting.
Here you go. Peyton Manning once said you have to
play to learn.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You're like, it's different, it's not everyone's the same situation,
and he was not ready to go.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
So, yes, it was rocky.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
He took a step back to go to to San
Francisco to get under the Kyle Shannon and Tutelage take
a deep breath, one step back, two steps forward with
Minnesota and now here we are way ahead in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, it's weird because you're a Boston guy. Sorry, you know,
I'm not a Massachusetts dude. I was born in New York,
so I don't like any of those teams.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
They're called assholes. By the way, Yes, I'm well aware
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You can say I'm assuming you grew up, you know,
high school legend, Boston College guy. You were thinking like, hey, man,
I'd love to play for the Patriots. One day.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We did that cross your moh on once or twice.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, so my dad was drafted to the New England Patriots.
He played at Colorado, was the second round pick tight end.
He was kind of gronk before there was a gronk
in my mind when I watch him play. I love
the Patriots until the Patriots traded my dad to the
LA Raiders. Then I was mad at the Patriots. But
then the Raiders we won Super Bowl eighteen with Marcus
Allen and all those guys, So then I forgave the Patriots.
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And then he went to the Minnesota Vikings and that
was super fun. The third string quarterback was Archie Manning,
so me and Cooper Manning and Peyton Manning and my
brother we were all friends.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It was a great year.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
The Vikings stunk that year, but we had fun. So
I'm like, ey, the Vikings are cool. Well, after one
year there Bill Parcells and company, who would coach my
dad originally with the Patriots, said hey, come to the
New York Giants and mentor Mark Bavarro and so the
Giants were my team till my dad was done playing
for them, and then I was a Giants fan for
most of my life after that. But then I was
(16:56):
a ball boy for the Patriots. It's you know, right
before college in high school and then I love the
Patriots again.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And so like you know, when you're in football.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
These these like these ebbs and flows of who you
root for, they go. But it is special for me
for this Super Bowl to be, you know, my old
team against my dad's old team.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
My dad passed away in April.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
So the fact that two teams that weren't even in
the playoffs last year, these two teams of all are
the are in the Super Bowl is is a kind
of a cool thing for us.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And you're joining us courtesy of the Family Heart Foundation.
Obviously you know your dad's tragic passing. How'd you guys
partner up?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So when my dad passed away, he just turned seventy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
He's in like great shape, he's like a crossfitter, he
looks great, all this stuff. He just he had a
heart attack cutting his grass, something he loved to do.
And my mom encouraged me and my brothers. She was like, boys,
can you please go get screened, have your heart screened,
blood pressure check, cholesterol checked.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
All the stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And I was, I feel like I'm in good shape.
I was shocked to find out that my LDL cholesterol
was high. And what I learned is that your LDL cholesterol,
it's invisible. It's not necessarily because of diet and exercise.
It can be genetic and there's really no way of
knowing unless you get screened. And so if your LDL
cholesterol is not in that safe zone, if it's a
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little high, you're at much greater risk for.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
A cardios cardiovascular.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Event or a stroke or dementia or something like that.
And so, you know, I think I'm so glad that
that my mom asked us to get screened. Quite honestly,
when she asked us, I kind of in my head
rolled my eyes, but I wanted to honor my mom,
so I said, okay, Mom, I will. It's ten minutes.
It's free to get your cholesterol checked. It's very simple,
ten minutes, like whatever, Mom, I know the numbers will
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come back great, and they didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
So yeah, and so that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
So cholesterolconnect dot Org is the Family Heart Foundation's website
you can sign up to get a free cholesterol screening
thing super easy and it could be very important.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm a little younger than you, but
not that much younger than you. And I know some
dads who are like, the LDL is super high and
it's scary because everybody's in.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Good shape and you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I will say the times I've spoken to you when
you've been on set unheard. Your family is obviously a
ton of like great athletes, and your kids, your brothers,
every everybody. I'm just curious, where are you, and this
is out of left field. Where are you on you sports?
And like do you do multiple sports? Do you focus
on one? Like because that's like a big topic as
my kids getting to become teenagers.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, second grade.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
If you don't know what sport you're going to be
best out as an adult by second grade, then give up,
move to Romania and be a gymnast.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Okay, second grade, No.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I listen, it's it's crazy, Okay, diversify the sport will
choose you. If I got to choose the sport when
I was a freshman in high school, I would have said,
I'm the next Roger Clemons. I'm going to be a
baseball pitcher pitching for the Red Sox, and if not,
I'm Larry Bird playing for the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But the sport chose me.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I think most people, the sport chooses you diversify. My
girls the rule in our house growing up, you I
had to play a different sport every season. Now you
could stay playing a sport club or town or in
the yard or whatever, but you got to play multiple
sports for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes you're the
best player on the team and that's in one sport.
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Other times you're the worst player on the team. It's
good to know what kind of teammate you're going to
be when you're the star player or you're the worst player.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
There's a lot of value in that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And so you know, my girls, you mentioned it, they
had very, very successful lacrosse careers. My oldest daughter, Annabelle,
she played lacross at Boston College, four national championships in
four years, one two lost to my middle daughter Mallory,
four years at BC, doing a fifth year at Stanford.
My son Henry College quarterback. So I mean it's I
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do think the diversify thing is important. And there's a
lot of parents that I think want to go that route,
but they don't know if they can. I would encourage
you their strengthen numbers do it push.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Back, but like, obviously you're an outlier because you were
a pro athlete. But a lot of these parents are like,
oh my gosh, I got to keep up with the
with the other kids who are focusing on just one
sport year round, as opposed to, hey, let me do
swimming in soccer and basketball. I got to focus on
one sport, And what do you do with I know
that the keeping up thing is is not a great look,
(21:16):
but it's kind of a thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, yeah, and I'll tell you you kind of are
year round. Like my girls were way into AAU basketball
like way. Like my oldest thought she was going to
be super bird, was sure of it. But we didn't
play club AAU basketball year round. But she was in
the driveway year round. Yeah, you know, but that's on her,
Like she's got to care about it more than I
care about it. She's got to be the one out
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there doing free throws and shooting threes and working on
her dribbling and all the stuff. And so you know,
usually it's like what your friends are into. Also, you know,
that can be a little bit of a thing too.
So you know, as I moved around, I played for
the Seahawks and then the Titans and then the Colts.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I feel like my.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Kids' sports were sort of regional, like what sports are
the people they're playing? Little bit and then what sports
are your best friends playing. That's another side of it too,
But uh no, I do. I do firmly believe that diversifying,
whether it's talk to someone like Jordan Spieth or talk.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
To you know, really anybody in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
And I understand there's certain sports, maybe hockey or some
other sports where you really got to be committed at a.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
High level at a young age. I get it. We
did it too. My son, who's the quarterback, he was
an ice.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Hockey goalie most of the until COVID and then ironically
he was committed to play lacrosse at Maryland for his
entire junior year and then finally, you know, football came around.
He matured, hit puberty and had committed to Chip Kelly
at UCLA. So I guess I just I just would
encourage people to to trust the process.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Let kids be kids and do it all. If you can't,
all right, let me quit.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Two more Super Bowl questions. First off, I'm taking a
flyer on DeMarcus Lawrence to win MVP. I know Will
Campbell's had a pretty good rookie year, but these blitzes
that McDonald senys. I'm sure you've seen the numbers against
young quarterbacks in the last two seasons in Seattle, McDonald's
defenses or the quarterbacks have gone one to nine against
McDonald with like seven touchdowns, twelve picks. They've sacked the
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young guys thirty times. Now, yeah, some of that is
bad quarterbacks, but for whatever reason, his blitz schemes keep
confusing quarterbacks and I like Lawrence to have a big game.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Any thoughts defensively, I don't hate that. I don't hate
that call.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
DeMarcus Lawrence has had a great year and he's a
different player. I would even go as far as to
say he's a different person. Listening to him talk at
the podium, it's a lot of interviews this week, listening
to him talk about the stuff outside of football, the
amount of hate he got for choosing the Seahawks and
for feeling like I believe what they're telling me, come
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here and we can win a Super Bowl. The amount
of hate like that affected him and to hear him
answer those types of questions, he's playing like a guy
on fire on a mission, in lockstep with Byron Murphy
and with Leonard Williams, and like you work as a
unit in pass rush.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
And yes, the threat.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Of dB blitzes and safety blitzes and linebacker blitzes that
Mike McDonald brings to the table, he could absolutely be
a guy with two sacks or a sack fumble, a
big play like that. There's a lot of candidates for MVP,
but that's not a bad choice.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Do you have a contrarian take on the game. A
lot of people are saying low scoring. Everybody likes Seattle neither.
These run defenses are amazing. Do you have anything that
like Adam Leftfield ol JSN two catches for thirty yards
or something.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Trick plays. They're coming.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
They're coming like you're Josh McDaniels and you're going against
the best defense in the NFL. This defense, statistically, in
a lot of ways, is better than the Legion of Boom.
And maybe we don't think about them that way because
they don't have the extra swagger or whatever, but in.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Some categories they're better. So think about that. So if
I'm Josh McDaniels, I got to come up with manufactured
offense smoking mirrors. What if the Patriots shown to do
in the past double pass Julian Edelman?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
This somebody that flee, flickers all the stuff, and you
can't take you with you. You've been practicing trick plays
all season long, Like what good does it do to
take it to April? Like cut it loose man? You know,
Philly Special. The Patriots know all about that. You know
we lost our Super Bowl. Bruce Arians called a like
a double reverse pass Antoine Randall l throwing it to
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hinz Ward like sometimes you gotta sneak one, you gotta
steal one. Sean Payton went with the surprise on side
kick against Peyton Manning and the Colts to come out
at halftime trick plays.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And so if I'm the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I am finding out who's a righty, who's a lefty
who played multiple sports in high school and was a
baseball player, you.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Know, a quarterback? Whatever it is, who are our threats
as throwers? Is it Efton Chisholm.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Traveon Henderson like? Who is it? I would look for
that in this game. I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Matt Hasselbeck, thanks a lot, buddy.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Enjoy the game and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks Jason.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
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Here's your best bet.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Good stuff from Matt Hasselbeck, and we will wrap up
this Friday podcast with some prop bets we've fired on.
So if you read the site, you know I am
on Seattle and the under. I don't see a lot
of scoring. As I wrote up on the site, I
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took a couple of long shots first touchdown, last touchdown.
George Holani, the running back for Seattle. I'm not going
to talk through the entire logic you can read it
on the site, but essentially he's the new Charbonnet. And
he was on the field for twenty snaps that were
passing against the Rams, only three for rushing. Okay, because
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in passing situations, he's you're blocking back. Kenneth Walker's not
a blocker. Obviously the Patriots saw that and they said, well,
what if we blitz a lot. You know, Darnold eight
interceptions against the blitz the season, tied for the league high.
If we just blitz the hell out of them, do
they take Kenneth Walker off the field. We'll have to
make them adjust if that happens. Obviously, Seattle's gonna be
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ready with a counter. Is one of the counters. Hey,
we're gonna rely on Holani. By the way, this kid
went to Boise. I saw he had eighty eight catches
in his career at Boise in like forty something games,
So it's not like he's got stonehands. I would not
be shocked if he was a you know, a decoy
that was wide open on a touchdown on something in
the red zone. Seattle has not been great in the
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red zone. Offense has not been spectacular. We know they're
gonna load up on the tight ends on Walker on
JSN and that could lead to Holani stealing a touchdown
that the odds are long. It's not a huge play,
but I think that's definitely a fun prop. You get
inside the ten, assuming they get to the red zone.
I remember, these are two good defenses. I'll take a
flyer on Holani. I'm on the under for Romandre Stevenson
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rush yards under fifty one and a half. He's been
a huge, huge story because in the postseason he had
his carries have gone way up. But what people aren't
noticing is that his carries are up because the Patriots
were winning all those games. They didn't trail in the
second half in the postseason yet, So what is Rabel
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gonna do? Conservative Rabel, Well, we're just gonna run the ball.
And who's he gonna trust the young rookie running back,
Henderson or Stevenson, who seems to have cured his fumble problem.
Member he had two bad fumbles early this season against
the Steelers. I was on the Patriots in that game,
I remember, and I was like, what the hell, get
this guy out of the game. He had two critical
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so Vrabels leans on his running back when they got
the lead to salt it away. Well, I don't think
they're gonna be leading in the second half, so I
don't anticipate a lot of carries for Stevenson and Seattle's defenses.
You heard from what's his name earlier this week, Aaron
Shatz the number of Seattle's run defense is the best
in the league. Well epa per rush, they're number one. Like,
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this is a great run defense. There's not gonna be
any holes. I think, if you want a running back
to bet, and I haven't bet it yet is Henderson
overs for receptions and receiving yards. But everybody's loading up
on that because everybody also sees, well, you can't run
on Seattle. So hopefully I'm not getting caught up in
too many obvious narratives here. I did take a flyer
on hold Oni anytime touchdown as well plus four forty four.
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I took a chance on DeMarcus Lawrence MVP. So Drake
k Bay has been sacked five times in each of
the three playoff games. He would sacked forty seven times
this year. He either eats a sack or goes for
the big home run play or run tucks and scrambles.
And he, by the way, fumbles a lot. I believe
he fumbled four times in the three or four times
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in the playoffs. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence has had a
great postseason, forcing fumbles I mean, he's thirty three years old,
but he's having a wonderful playoff run. He's on a
mission to win a super Bowl. You know, this has
not quite a Von Miller feel to it with the Broncos,
but it kind of sort of feels like, man, this
guy is, you know, gonna deliver here in a big
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spot for Seattle. And I wouldn't be shocked if if
Lawrence gets two sacks and a force fumble and the
Seahawks win, you know, sixteen to six, or they're about
twenty to ten, DeMarcus Lawrence is gonna be in line
for the MVP. I don't see Darnold's numbers being huge here.
You know, there are there is a thought that, hey, listen, man,
you remember all those Belichick defenses, what they did. Hey,
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we're taking away your superstar. We're gonna make you fight
left handed. We're just gonna erase him and go beat
us with anybody else. Well, if they do that to JSN,
are you confident in Donald finding Shaheed and these tight ends?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I mean, I don't see Donald or Drake May having
a big game. So again I'm on the under I
want Seattle. I took a flyer on de Marcus Lawrence,
who's a long shot to win plus seventy nine. Seventy nine.
You know, a twenty dollars bet on DeMarcus Lawrence to
win the VP pays you very handsomely those over thirteen
hundred bucks. I did take an alternate line Seattle minus
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fourteen and a half to win the game, like would
not shock me at all. And in the write up
I draw some parallels between this and the Patriots thirteen
Rams three snoozer. Fun fact, I don't even remember where
I was watching that game. It was so bad. Rams
couldn't do anything. They had a young quarterback Jared Goff,
they had a sharp offensive mind in McVeigh, and Belichick
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just wiped them. They didn't get to the red zone once.
And you know, Drake, these young quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, man,
remember Dan Marino went there. Second year, they got smashed
by the Niners. Now this Seahawks team, I don't know
that they're capable of running away and hiding, but I
think they won seven games by more than fourteen points
this season. A lot of bad teams in there, but
this defense is a bully. And when they if they're
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able to grab a nine to nothing halftime lead or something.
I think first half unders in play. I mean for
first half shutout for the Seahawks defense. I just don't
see the Patriots moving the ball that much. Now, maybe
it's colored by what I saw from that in that
first half against the Broncos, but they couldn't do anything.
That it was on the road, and don't give me
the weather that didn't kick in until the second half.
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But they couldn't move the ball against the Texans and
that was at home. They couldn't do much against the Chargers,
and that was at home. And the Seattle defense I
think is better than the Chargers, right there with the Texans,
and definitely I think better than the Broncos. I did
take a chance on last touchdown is always fun. I
did bet Arroyo the tight end for Seattle. I think
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someone's got a score besides JSN and Walker. I took
a chance on last touchdown. Rashid Shaheed and the other
old line I took was under thirty five and a
half for the game. You know, twenty one six? Is
that in play? Like I know you, maybe I'm way
lower than I should be on the Patriots. But I
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just think this Seattle team, everything I've seen from them,
go look at their last eight games. One team and
one quarterback has had success against them. That's the Rams
at Stafford. And I'm sorry, guys. Stafford is a veteran
who's seen everything. And I don't think Drake Mays in
his class, despite how good of a season may have.
So I don't think that May has the weapons that
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Stafford has. I think mcvay's a better play caller than McDaniels.
I don't see the Patriots dialing up great offensiveness. Remember
with Tom Brady, how many first quarters did McDaniels come
out and lay goose eggs? And now if you fall
behind here, I just yeah, I'm thinking low scoring twenty
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four to nine would basically be amazing. I would clean
up and not quite retire, but it would be a
would be a nice sweep of the board. Now, I
will admit all these bets you heard. If the Patriots
win this game, it's a rough one for your boy.
I don't have the Patriots winning and anything go ahead.
You can run counter to me, fade me, baby, all you.
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But I think Seattle wins fairly handily, I will say
last year, I was fortunate to call Eagles blowing out
the Chiefs. Last year was a really good season. This
regular season was good. These playoffs have not been good
to me. I've thought more with my head, thought more
with my heart than my head, which has really been foolish.
I got no dog in this fight, you guys. I
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don't like the freaking Sea Owks. I had to shave
their logo in my head when I made an idiotic
bet about Geno Smith and then making the playoffs a
few years ago. And I definitely don't like the Patriots.
But I didn't like the Chiefs last year and I
was on the Eagles. I rode the better defense to
an easy victory, and I think that happens here all right.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Enjoyed the Super Bowl. We're back on Monday.
This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up Straight Fire Fame.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Bowyer For Friday, February the sixth,
it is Super Bowl weekend, ladies and gentlemen, final weekend
of the football season.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Oddly, I don't mind admitting this.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I told the wife this week, I'm kind of excited
the football season's ending, kind of excited.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm worn down, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I actually got sick this week.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I was gonna go up to San fran to Cowherd's
volume party for the day and I just was like,
I'm not feeling good. Actually to just sit down and
take a nap. Thursday afternoon before my men's league basketball game,
I was so gassed, and we ended up winning.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I know, you don't care.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I it was actually the tougher league, and I had
been struggling in the first two games, and I had
a couple threes in this one, which was nice.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Again.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
The USC point guard, former USC point guard, he's very strong.
He was misseds some guys. We didn't have a couple guys.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Overall.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
You know, good game, we won handily, but you know,
Super Bowl weekend is here, and I'm like you know
it's it's just a weird super Bowl. We got Matt Hasselbeck,
former Seahawks quarterback, coming on the show a little bit
later to talk about Drake May and youth sports. If
you're into that, I love you know, I love youth sports.
A lot of dad listening to this podcast and a
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couple of moms literally too. And I think you like
what Hassleback has to say. We talk Super Bowl MVP potential.
I have a surprise name for you. I will be
doing props in a little bit and my official pick
and all that fun stuff. I did write up props
for the site. It went up posted. You could tell
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which way I'm leading on the game if you haven't
been paying attention. And before I get to that, though,
as I watched the Lakers Sixers final minutes here Lakers
great comeback in the fourth quarter, Luca out in the
second half with a leg injury, Austin Reeves and trying
to hold it down. But before we get to that,
I just need to quickly talk about this MVP voting.
So Thursday night at some NFL award show in San
(02:08):
Fran Yes I'm gonna say San Fran, sorry, not SF
or San Francisco. It's just easier to say San Fran.
I don't care that people don't like San Fran, like
I don't care if you. When I moved out here,
somebody told me, oh, you can't say so Cal. I'm like,
why it's so much either than Southern California. I like
to abbreviate stuff anyway. MVP voting, this is how it went.
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Matthew Stafford twenty four votes, Drake May twenty three votes,
Josh Allen two votes, Justin Herbert one vote, and there's
all this Ajeta in New England. How could you vote
for Justin Herbert? Oh my gosh, you ruined it. We
should have had a tie. So the last tie was
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in two thousand and three, Peyton Manning and Steve Air
McNair shared award, and one could argue, yeah, like I
don't get the Herbert vote.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I will quickly point out a.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Couple of analytics say that Justin Herbert had no business
being near the MVP. According to Pro Football Focus, Justin
Herbert was the eleventh best quarterback. Drake May was six
according to EPA at the website running backs still don't Matter.
It's actually a pretty good site, Drake May was the
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number one EPA quarterback. Now we did talk about that,
I think before the final, before the AFC Championship, about
how he weirdly became the number one EPA quarterback because
he took forty seven sacks, which is a ton for
a guy who's the number one EPA quarterback. But he
thrived on big plays, quarterback scrambles and its completion percentage.
You kind of hacked EPA. Anyways, in EPA, May was one,
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PERTY was two, Stafford five, Herbert sixteen. So by some analytics,
Herbert had no biness being near the MVP. But the
guy who voted for Herbert, Sam Monson, He's been on
this podcast. He's a former pro football focused guy. His
logic was essentially, hey man, justin Herbert didn't have his
two tackles and performed heroically.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
He was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
The second Stafford's offensive line broke down, he was playing
like a really poor quarterback and his numbers showed that.
So I don't want to go overboard with hey man,
this guy was way wrong with this justin Herbert nonsense.
I thought Herbert was excellent. He had a great regular season.
Remember it's a regular season.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Award.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Drake May was good. I didn't think he was amazing.
He did lead the league in completion of percentage, and
the big plays obviously helped. I thought Josh Allen was fantastic.
I just thought it was Stafford. I thought Stafford was
the guy. And I can't hate voting for Herbert in
this spot, like was Herbert. If you asked me Jay Mackay,
Herbert or May, who you got, who would you take?
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I'm just being honest. I would take Herbert now, who
had the better season. I would lean May. But is
that skewed because of the postseason. If we did this
vote publicly right after the regular season and they handed
out the award right after the regular season, I don't
think we would have this much issue with it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Now. May is in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Which has everybody all fired up. He threw for like
eighty yards in the AFC Championship game. He complete a
percentage in the three playoff games was like fifty seven
percent or something. Let's not act like May's been great
this postseason.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But Jay Weather, what about the weather?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Just like subtle down, guys, it's all the as Hasselback
will use the word massholes getting fired up about Drake
May not being an MVP.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Anyways, the big news with Stafford said he's coming back
next year, which should be a no surprise to anyone.
Obviously he's coming back. You don't win the MVP and
then retire. I mean, you retire when you're like Peyton
Manning and washed and you win the Super Bowl to Broncos.
That's okay, time to retire. So I definitely don't disagree
with the Stafford MVP, and I.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Don't disagree with the Herbert vote.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I mean, listen, the guy what Herbert as MVP over May,
and I don't think that's the worst. I don't think
that's the most egregious decision in NFL voting history.
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Speaker 3 (06:28):
All right, let's go to the NBA now, before we
get to Matt Hasselbeck quickly, Lakers do hold off the
Sixers for a really nice win. Austin reeves thirty five
points in twenty five minutes off the bench. This Luca
thigh hamstring situation doesn't sound great. Almost certainly will not
play against the Warriors Saturday night. Steph Curry, by the way,
sat out last night against the Suns. I'm assuming they
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want him one hundred percent fresh for the big game
Saturday against the Lakers. And my guess is you just
shut Luca down through the All Star break. I guess
he We don't need him playing any All Star game,
just we need him for for the second half. You know,
Lakers are on a good spot in the West. I've
got a legit chance to get a top four seed
and home court advantage as of now. This SGA injury,
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I do wonder if the Spurs could could chase him
down where it like the fifty game mark, there's like
thirty games left. SGA probably out two weeks. We'll see
with the abb they surely don't want to force anything.
The Nuggets can't stay healthy. I saw Peyton Watson just
went down. He's gonna be out a couple of weeks,
maybe longer. Houston crumbling a little bit, so Lakers right there,
four or five? You get the four, I mean, obviously
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you'd be ideally you get the three. You want to
avoid OKC in the second round, but it's a logjam there. Rockets, Lakers,
Wolves all right about the same spot. I think we
would assume the Suns will fade a little, but real quick.
So Jannis did not get dealt and Giannis, I don't
know this is I don't think this is a great
look for him. You guys, tell me what you think.
So after the trade deadline passed, Jannis goes on Twitter
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and like, I mean, I just don't really understand why
he would do this, But like, everybody knows you want
out of Milwaukee. It's like the worst kept secret in
the league. Everybody knows it. So he goes out after
the trade deadline and writes, legends don't chase. They attract
one hundred like the one keep it one hundred emoji
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and then the sunglasses with the shades emoji, and then
Luke Luca Leonardo DiCaprio from Wolf of Wall Street saying.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm not ever going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
What are you doing, dude? Everybody knows you're not gonna
be there. You can act like this, but the Bucks
don't want you to play. They want to tank for
as high a pick as possible. They don't want you
coming back because you're not staying. It's so goofy. And
for these reporters to be out there like it's a
three team race, it was a no team race.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nobody was off or anything.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Good.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Warriors get not even close. I never bought bought the
Warrior smoke. The Minnesota stuff kind of sort of made
some sense. Miami Heat stuff was never even close. So
now the team to watch, if we're being one thousand
percent honest, is the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
In the summer.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
They're gonna have something like eighty million dollars coming off
the books. Guys, they're gonna have the money for Gianni's.
The problem is is Austin reeves and you know, three
or four number ones and whatever else they've got. Is
that gonna cut it? Or can someone blow that out
of the water. I would take keep an eye on
the Orlando Magic and Palo Banko. If they flame out
of the playoffs early, they're gonna do something. I know
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people don't think, oh, Orlando, Jy's not gonna go.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Why wouldn't he go there?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You're in the East.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The Florida's a great tax date, you save even more money.
And they got a damn good roster. I mean, they
just can't really get it together right now. Seventh in
the in the lowly East, but they easily could go
up as high as four with the second half, with
all the talent they have. The big trade that went
down Thursday was the LA Clippers. So a day or
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a two days after trading James Harden, they decide we
are gonna move Aviza Zubac to the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Now Zubak is a really good center. I don't know
if he's like a top seven center in the league
something around there. But he goes to Indiana.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Remember they lost Miles Turner, obviously he's on the Bucks.
Now Zubats goes to the Pacers. Here's what Indiana had
to give up, though, Ben Matherin, who I like a
lot to get from Arizona Isaiah Jackson, two first round picks,
one second round pick.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Also they get the Pacers get Kobe Brown. So my
issue with Ben Matherin is that he's only been in
the league for four years. He's twenty three to twenty
four years old.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Why are you giving up on him so early?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now, I get it, you needed a center for next season, right,
You've got to get somebody to replace Miles Turner. Now,
Miles Turner was a stretch center, could go out and
hit through. Did not have a great series in the
finals against Okac. Obviously, he's really good u Zubats. But
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without Miles Turner, Indiana just like they wreaked twenty eighth
in the league in points allowed in the paint this year,
they can't stop anybody. So Zubats is a really good center.
He's perfect for Halliburton on the pick and roll. He's
a really I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
The Lakers had him back in the day.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
He was good.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
They whiffed giving up on him. I think he's a
good player. My thing is, I really like Matherin a lot.
I think a Matherin Garland backcourt is pretty damn spicy.
I mean, Matherin's good, averaging seventeen and five this season. Now,
he said the final year of his rookie deal. Obviously,
Indiana was reluctant to extend him. I don't totally understand why.
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I'm sure some Pacers fans who are in the know
could tell me. You know, they've got some some other
guys they've drafted who are really good and young, and
obviously Nemhard.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I love TJ. McConnell, quintessential reserve.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Nie Smith is kind of in his position, not as
offensive minded, but a better defender. Ben Shephard is young
and promising. I like Cam Jones, the kid out of Marquette,
but he hasn't shown much yet. Again, he's super young.
I mean, well, he's only twenty three, but he's it
is his first year in the league. But they clearly
like something, and they're trying this kid, Johnny Furfey from Kansas,
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who I don't really know what we I don't think
anybody can know what he is. Matherin is a bucket.
Maybe there's some maturity issues there, but Matherin and Garland
is that not bad foundation for the paper clips? And
you're buying low on a guy similar to how the
Pistons gave up on Jade and Ivy. I think Jade
and Ivy could be some those guys. These guys are
not in their prime yet. NBA prime is closer to
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like twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine, especially for
these guards.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Twenty four.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You're still young, You're still learning how to play, so
I don't I don't hate that deal at all. I
think both teams are kind of win win. Obviously, Saturday
night is a big night in the NBA, and then
the NBA will like kind of move to the side
on Sunday for the Super Bowl. And with that, let's
move to our guest, Matt Hasselback, former NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You know, Jason likes to think he knows everything when
it comes to sports. I know what sports fans want,
but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Let's just say I know a guy who knows the
guy who knows another guy.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A legendary quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He's this is some week for him, his Seahawks in
the Super Bowl. Matt Hasselbeck. I see him every week
on The Herd. I think I've interviewed him once or twice. Maybe, Matt,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Cut you mic man, They cut your mic.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Yeah, well, you say so many inflammatory things. I'm trying
to jump in there and tell cow Herd he's wrong,
but I gotta I gotta pas right where Jason wisraw.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, I've been wrong about the Seahawks a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I know he's your guy.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
The only question for me Seattle blowout, Seattle close game
is Sam Darnold. And you've seen a lot of quarterbacks
in your time. I can't recall anybody I've seen go
through this high pick. Big Lows looked like he was
gonna be like a back up the rest of his career,
and now maybe he's gonna be like a Super Bowl MVP.
This is like movie stuff.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah, but let's go back. Okay, he was played at USC.
Quite honestly, I don't think he was pro ready. That
offense not to throw stray bullets, but like that offense
didn't prepare you for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And he was like twenty years old.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I mean, he couldn't buy a beer and he's playing
for the Jets, like can't rent a car, and he's like, oh,
but here are the keys to the Jets. You know,
Like doesn't make sense they had Josh McCowan on the roster.
He's the perfect like tape be the punching bag, show
me how to be a pro quarterback.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
He's the perfect guy.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
Andy Reid did it for Donovan McNabb with Doug Peterson.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Hey day, Doug, go take a beating on our team.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That's not quite ready yet, and then Donovan learned from
him all year and then you bring your all world
ability and then we're cooking right.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I mean, you see it happened. Patrick Mahomes sat behind
Alex Smith did the same thing whole season. So the
fact that they.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Just the Jets, surprise, surprise, they don't know what they're
doing with the quarterback, like, hey, here you go, help us.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Twitter said that you're supposed to start. Everyone else is starting.
Here you go. Peyton Manning once said you have to
play to learn.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
You're like, it's different, it's not everyone's the same situation,
and he was not ready to go.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
So, yes, it was rocky.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
He took a step back to go to to San
Francisco to get under the Kyle Shannon and Tutelage take
a deep breath, one step back, two steps forward with
Minnesota and now here we are way ahead in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, it's weird because you're a Boston guy. Sorry, you know,
I'm not a Massachusetts dude. I was born in New York,
so I don't like any of those teams.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
They're called assholes. By the way, Yes, I'm well aware
of it.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You can say I'm assuming you grew up, you know,
high school legend, Boston College guy. You were thinking like, hey, man,
I'd love to play for the Patriots. One day.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
We did that cross your moh on once or twice.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, so my dad was drafted to the New England Patriots.
He played at Colorado, was the second round pick tight end.
He was kind of gronk before there was a gronk
in my mind when I watch him play. I love
the Patriots until the Patriots traded my dad to the
LA Raiders. Then I was mad at the Patriots. But
then the Raiders we won Super Bowl eighteen with Marcus
Allen and all those guys, So then I forgave the Patriots.
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And then he went to the Minnesota Vikings and that
was super fun. The third string quarterback was Archie Manning,
so me and Cooper Manning and Peyton Manning and my
brother we were all friends.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
It was a great year.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
The Vikings stunk that year, but we had fun. So
I'm like, ey, the Vikings are cool. Well, after one
year there Bill Parcells and company, who would coach my
dad originally with the Patriots, said hey, come to the
New York Giants and mentor Mark Bavarro and so the
Giants were my team till my dad was done playing
for them, and then I was a Giants fan for
most of my life after that. But then I was
(16:56):
a ball boy for the Patriots. It's you know, right
before college in high school and then I love the
Patriots again.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
And so like you know, when you're in football.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
These these like these ebbs and flows of who you
root for, they go. But it is special for me
for this Super Bowl to be, you know, my old
team against my dad's old team.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
My dad passed away in April.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
So the fact that two teams that weren't even in
the playoffs last year, these two teams of all are
the are in the Super Bowl is is a kind
of a cool thing for us.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And you're joining us courtesy of the Family Heart Foundation.
Obviously you know your dad's tragic passing. How'd you guys
partner up?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
So when my dad passed away, he just turned seventy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
He's in like great shape, he's like a crossfitter, he
looks great, all this stuff. He just he had a
heart attack cutting his grass, something he loved to do.
And my mom encouraged me and my brothers. She was like, boys,
can you please go get screened, have your heart screened,
blood pressure check, cholesterol checked.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
All the stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
And I was, I feel like I'm in good shape.
I was shocked to find out that my LDL cholesterol
was high. And what I learned is that your LDL cholesterol,
it's invisible. It's not necessarily because of diet and exercise.
It can be genetic and there's really no way of
knowing unless you get screened. And so if your LDL
cholesterol is not in that safe zone, if it's a
(18:13):
little high, you're at much greater risk for.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
A cardios cardiovascular.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Event or a stroke or dementia or something like that.
And so, you know, I think I'm so glad that
that my mom asked us to get screened. Quite honestly,
when she asked us, I kind of in my head
rolled my eyes, but I wanted to honor my mom,
so I said, okay, Mom, I will. It's ten minutes.
It's free to get your cholesterol checked. It's very simple,
ten minutes, like whatever, Mom, I know the numbers will
(18:40):
come back great, and they didn't.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
So yeah, and so that's it.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
So cholesterolconnect dot Org is the Family Heart Foundation's website
you can sign up to get a free cholesterol screening
thing super easy and it could be very important.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm a little younger than you, but
not that much younger than you. And I know some
dads who are like, the LDL is super high and
it's scary because everybody's in.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Good shape and you just don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I will say the times I've spoken to you when
you've been on set unheard. Your family is obviously a
ton of like great athletes, and your kids, your brothers,
every everybody. I'm just curious, where are you, and this
is out of left field. Where are you on you sports?
And like do you do multiple sports? Do you focus
on one? Like because that's like a big topic as
my kids getting to become teenagers.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, second grade.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
If you don't know what sport you're going to be
best out as an adult by second grade, then give up,
move to Romania and be a gymnast.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Okay, second grade, No.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
I listen, it's it's crazy, Okay, diversify the sport will
choose you. If I got to choose the sport when
I was a freshman in high school, I would have said,
I'm the next Roger Clemons. I'm going to be a
baseball pitcher pitching for the Red Sox, and if not,
I'm Larry Bird playing for the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But the sport chose me.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I think most people, the sport chooses you diversify. My
girls the rule in our house growing up, you I
had to play a different sport every season. Now you
could stay playing a sport club or town or in
the yard or whatever, but you got to play multiple
sports for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes you're the
best player on the team and that's in one sport.
(20:13):
Other times you're the worst player on the team. It's
good to know what kind of teammate you're going to
be when you're the star player or you're the worst player.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
There's a lot of value in that.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
And so you know, my girls, you mentioned it, they
had very, very successful lacrosse careers. My oldest daughter, Annabelle,
she played lacross at Boston College, four national championships in
four years, one two lost to my middle daughter Mallory,
four years at BC, doing a fifth year at Stanford.
My son Henry College quarterback. So I mean it's I
(20:42):
do think the diversify thing is important. And there's a
lot of parents that I think want to go that route,
but they don't know if they can. I would encourage
you their strengthen numbers do it push.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Back, but like, obviously you're an outlier because you were
a pro athlete. But a lot of these parents are like,
oh my gosh, I got to keep up with the
with the other kids who are focusing on just one
sport year round, as opposed to, hey, let me do
swimming in soccer and basketball. I got to focus on
one sport, And what do you do with I know
that the keeping up thing is is not a great look,
(21:16):
but it's kind of a thing, you know.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, yeah, and I'll tell you you kind of are
year round. Like my girls were way into AAU basketball
like way. Like my oldest thought she was going to
be super bird, was sure of it. But we didn't
play club AAU basketball year round. But she was in
the driveway year round. Yeah, you know, but that's on her,
Like she's got to care about it more than I
care about it. She's got to be the one out
(21:39):
there doing free throws and shooting threes and working on
her dribbling and all the stuff. And so you know,
usually it's like what your friends are into. Also, you know,
that can be a little bit of a thing too.
So you know, as I moved around, I played for
the Seahawks and then the Titans and then the Colts.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I feel like my.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Kids' sports were sort of regional, like what sports are
the people they're playing? Little bit and then what sports
are your best friends playing. That's another side of it too,
But uh no, I do. I do firmly believe that diversifying,
whether it's talk to someone like Jordan Spieth or talk.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
To you know, really anybody in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
And I understand there's certain sports, maybe hockey or some
other sports where you really got to be committed at a.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
High level at a young age. I get it. We
did it too. My son, who's the quarterback, he was
an ice.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Hockey goalie most of the until COVID and then ironically
he was committed to play lacrosse at Maryland for his
entire junior year and then finally, you know, football came around.
He matured, hit puberty and had committed to Chip Kelly
at UCLA. So I guess I just I just would
encourage people to to trust the process.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Let kids be kids and do it all. If you can't,
all right, let me quit.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Two more Super Bowl questions. First off, I'm taking a
flyer on DeMarcus Lawrence to win MVP. I know Will
Campbell's had a pretty good rookie year, but these blitzes
that McDonald senys. I'm sure you've seen the numbers against
young quarterbacks in the last two seasons in Seattle, McDonald's
defenses or the quarterbacks have gone one to nine against
McDonald with like seven touchdowns, twelve picks. They've sacked the
(23:14):
young guys thirty times. Now, yeah, some of that is
bad quarterbacks, but for whatever reason, his blitz schemes keep
confusing quarterbacks and I like Lawrence to have a big game.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Any thoughts defensively, I don't hate that. I don't hate
that call.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
DeMarcus Lawrence has had a great year and he's a
different player. I would even go as far as to
say he's a different person. Listening to him talk at
the podium, it's a lot of interviews this week, listening
to him talk about the stuff outside of football, the
amount of hate he got for choosing the Seahawks and
for feeling like I believe what they're telling me, come
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here and we can win a Super Bowl. The amount
of hate like that affected him and to hear him
answer those types of questions, he's playing like a guy
on fire on a mission, in lockstep with Byron Murphy
and with Leonard Williams, and like you work as a
unit in pass rush.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
And yes, the threat.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Of dB blitzes and safety blitzes and linebacker blitzes that
Mike McDonald brings to the table, he could absolutely be
a guy with two sacks or a sack fumble, a
big play like that. There's a lot of candidates for MVP,
but that's not a bad choice.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Do you have a contrarian take on the game. A
lot of people are saying low scoring. Everybody likes Seattle neither.
These run defenses are amazing. Do you have anything that
like Adam Leftfield ol JSN two catches for thirty yards
or something.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Trick plays. They're coming.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
They're coming like you're Josh McDaniels and you're going against
the best defense in the NFL. This defense, statistically, in
a lot of ways, is better than the Legion of Boom.
And maybe we don't think about them that way because
they don't have the extra swagger or whatever, but in.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Some categories they're better. So think about that. So if
I'm Josh McDaniels, I got to come up with manufactured
offense smoking mirrors. What if the Patriots shown to do
in the past double pass Julian Edelman?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
This somebody that flee, flickers all the stuff, and you
can't take you with you. You've been practicing trick plays
all season long, Like what good does it do to
take it to April? Like cut it loose man? You know,
Philly Special. The Patriots know all about that. You know
we lost our Super Bowl. Bruce Arians called a like
a double reverse pass Antoine Randall l throwing it to
(25:28):
hinz Ward like sometimes you gotta sneak one, you gotta
steal one. Sean Payton went with the surprise on side
kick against Peyton Manning and the Colts to come out
at halftime trick plays.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
And so if I'm the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
I am finding out who's a righty, who's a lefty
who played multiple sports in high school and was a
baseball player, you.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Know, a quarterback? Whatever it is, who are our threats
as throwers? Is it Efton Chisholm.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Traveon Henderson like? Who is it? I would look for
that in this game. I like that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Matt Hasselbeck, thanks a lot, buddy.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Enjoy the game and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks Jason.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
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Here's your best bet.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Good stuff from Matt Hasselbeck, and we will wrap up
this Friday podcast with some prop bets we've fired on.
So if you read the site, you know I am
on Seattle and the under. I don't see a lot
of scoring. As I wrote up on the site, I
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took a couple of long shots first touchdown, last touchdown.
George Holani, the running back for Seattle. I'm not going
to talk through the entire logic you can read it
on the site, but essentially he's the new Charbonnet. And
he was on the field for twenty snaps that were
passing against the Rams, only three for rushing. Okay, because
(27:12):
in passing situations, he's you're blocking back. Kenneth Walker's not
a blocker. Obviously the Patriots saw that and they said, well,
what if we blitz a lot. You know, Darnold eight
interceptions against the blitz the season, tied for the league high.
If we just blitz the hell out of them, do
they take Kenneth Walker off the field. We'll have to
make them adjust if that happens. Obviously, Seattle's gonna be
(27:33):
ready with a counter. Is one of the counters. Hey,
we're gonna rely on Holani. By the way, this kid
went to Boise. I saw he had eighty eight catches
in his career at Boise in like forty something games,
So it's not like he's got stonehands. I would not
be shocked if he was a you know, a decoy
that was wide open on a touchdown on something in
the red zone. Seattle has not been great in the
(27:56):
red zone. Offense has not been spectacular. We know they're
gonna load up on the tight ends on Walker on
JSN and that could lead to Holani stealing a touchdown
that the odds are long. It's not a huge play,
but I think that's definitely a fun prop. You get
inside the ten, assuming they get to the red zone.
I remember, these are two good defenses. I'll take a
flyer on Holani. I'm on the under for Romandre Stevenson
(28:18):
rush yards under fifty one and a half. He's been
a huge, huge story because in the postseason he had
his carries have gone way up. But what people aren't
noticing is that his carries are up because the Patriots
were winning all those games. They didn't trail in the
second half in the postseason yet, So what is Rabel
(28:39):
gonna do? Conservative Rabel, Well, we're just gonna run the ball.
And who's he gonna trust the young rookie running back,
Henderson or Stevenson, who seems to have cured his fumble problem.
Member he had two bad fumbles early this season against
the Steelers. I was on the Patriots in that game,
I remember, and I was like, what the hell, get
this guy out of the game. He had two critical
(29:00):
so Vrabels leans on his running back when they got
the lead to salt it away. Well, I don't think
they're gonna be leading in the second half, so I
don't anticipate a lot of carries for Stevenson and Seattle's defenses.
You heard from what's his name earlier this week, Aaron
Shatz the number of Seattle's run defense is the best
in the league. Well epa per rush, they're number one. Like,
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this is a great run defense. There's not gonna be
any holes. I think, if you want a running back
to bet, and I haven't bet it yet is Henderson
overs for receptions and receiving yards. But everybody's loading up
on that because everybody also sees, well, you can't run
on Seattle. So hopefully I'm not getting caught up in
too many obvious narratives here. I did take a flyer
on hold Oni anytime touchdown as well plus four forty four.
(29:46):
I took a chance on DeMarcus Lawrence MVP. So Drake
k Bay has been sacked five times in each of
the three playoff games. He would sacked forty seven times
this year. He either eats a sack or goes for
the big home run play or run tucks and scrambles.
And he, by the way, fumbles a lot. I believe
he fumbled four times in the three or four times
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in the playoffs. I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence has had a
great postseason, forcing fumbles I mean, he's thirty three years old,
but he's having a wonderful playoff run. He's on a
mission to win a super Bowl. You know, this has
not quite a Von Miller feel to it with the Broncos,
but it kind of sort of feels like, man, this
guy is, you know, gonna deliver here in a big
(30:30):
spot for Seattle. And I wouldn't be shocked if if
Lawrence gets two sacks and a force fumble and the
Seahawks win, you know, sixteen to six, or they're about
twenty to ten, DeMarcus Lawrence is gonna be in line
for the MVP. I don't see Darnold's numbers being huge here.
You know, there are there is a thought that, hey, listen, man,
you remember all those Belichick defenses, what they did. Hey,
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we're taking away your superstar. We're gonna make you fight
left handed. We're just gonna erase him and go beat
us with anybody else. Well, if they do that to JSN,
are you confident in Donald finding Shaheed and these tight ends?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
I mean, I don't see Donald or Drake May having
a big game. So again I'm on the under I
want Seattle. I took a flyer on de Marcus Lawrence,
who's a long shot to win plus seventy nine. Seventy nine.
You know, a twenty dollars bet on DeMarcus Lawrence to
win the VP pays you very handsomely those over thirteen
hundred bucks. I did take an alternate line Seattle minus
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fourteen and a half to win the game, like would
not shock me at all. And in the write up
I draw some parallels between this and the Patriots thirteen
Rams three snoozer. Fun fact, I don't even remember where
I was watching that game. It was so bad. Rams
couldn't do anything. They had a young quarterback Jared Goff,
they had a sharp offensive mind in McVeigh, and Belichick
(31:53):
just wiped them. They didn't get to the red zone once.
And you know, Drake, these young quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, man,
remember Dan Marino went there. Second year, they got smashed
by the Niners. Now this Seahawks team, I don't know
that they're capable of running away and hiding, but I
think they won seven games by more than fourteen points
this season. A lot of bad teams in there, but
this defense is a bully. And when they if they're
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able to grab a nine to nothing halftime lead or something.
I think first half unders in play. I mean for
first half shutout for the Seahawks defense. I just don't
see the Patriots moving the ball that much. Now, maybe
it's colored by what I saw from that in that
first half against the Broncos, but they couldn't do anything.
That it was on the road, and don't give me
the weather that didn't kick in until the second half.
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But they couldn't move the ball against the Texans and
that was at home. They couldn't do much against the Chargers,
and that was at home. And the Seattle defense I
think is better than the Chargers, right there with the Texans,
and definitely I think better than the Broncos. I did
take a chance on last touchdown is always fun. I
did bet Arroyo the tight end for Seattle. I think
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someone's got a score besides JSN and Walker. I took
a chance on last touchdown. Rashid Shaheed and the other
old line I took was under thirty five and a
half for the game. You know, twenty one six? Is
that in play? Like I know you, maybe I'm way
lower than I should be on the Patriots. But I
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just think this Seattle team, everything I've seen from them,
go look at their last eight games. One team and
one quarterback has had success against them. That's the Rams
at Stafford. And I'm sorry, guys. Stafford is a veteran
who's seen everything. And I don't think Drake Mays in
his class, despite how good of a season may have.
So I don't think that May has the weapons that
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Stafford has. I think mcvay's a better play caller than McDaniels.
I don't see the Patriots dialing up great offensiveness. Remember
with Tom Brady, how many first quarters did McDaniels come
out and lay goose eggs? And now if you fall
behind here, I just yeah, I'm thinking low scoring twenty
(34:02):
four to nine would basically be amazing. I would clean
up and not quite retire, but it would be a
would be a nice sweep of the board. Now, I
will admit all these bets you heard. If the Patriots
win this game, it's a rough one for your boy.
I don't have the Patriots winning and anything go ahead.
You can run counter to me, fade me, baby, all you.
(34:23):
But I think Seattle wins fairly handily, I will say
last year, I was fortunate to call Eagles blowing out
the Chiefs. Last year was a really good season. This
regular season was good. These playoffs have not been good
to me. I've thought more with my head, thought more
with my heart than my head, which has really been foolish.
I got no dog in this fight, you guys. I
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don't like the freaking Sea Owks. I had to shave
their logo in my head when I made an idiotic
bet about Geno Smith and then making the playoffs a
few years ago. And I definitely don't like the Patriots.
But I didn't like the Chiefs last year and I
was on the Eagles. I rode the better defense to
an easy victory, and I think that happens here all right.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Enjoyed the Super Bowl. We're back on Monday.
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