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May 18, 2025 159 mins

In the latest episode of The Bernie Fratto Show, Bernie begins the show explaining the oddities and quirks in the NFL Schedule & FOX Sports Radio NBA Analyst Mark Medina joins the show to talk about possible destinations for Giannis Antetokounmpo , which Eastern Conference Team does he think KD might end up on, what’s next for the Celtics & the NBA Lottery Conspiracies. Bernie explains what outcome will be most likely after news was released that Pete Rose would be inducted into the MLB Hall of Fame. ECI Sports Consultant Jeff Dawson joins the show to talk about the Celtics collapse and what is next for the team & franchise altogether + your calls during the Midnight Hour! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, that's right, you heard the man. It is that
time of week. My name is Bernie Fraddle. We are
coming to your line from the tyreq dot com studios
here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio. We'll take up
to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. And my goodness,
what an absolute jam pack show we have for you tonight.

(00:26):
What a week it has been in sports on and
off the field. You know, we had a little thing
called the NBA Draft lottery. We'll certainly unpack that and
we will uh well, we'll give the conspiracy theorists their
day in court, but surely you jest. I will break
down my reasons why it's impossible that this could have

(00:46):
been rigged, but just one man's opinion. But I'll bring receipts.
Pete Rose back in the news now. I told you
January eighth, his family met with Rob Manfred and Ranfred's
It's something kind of clever, even for him, very clever.
Rarely his man for had done anything clever in my view,
but this might have been one of them. We've got

(01:08):
a lot to say about this tonight. I want to
tell you what happened what's likely to happen, what's going
to happen next? And I guess you can mark your
calendars for, you know, July twenty twenty eight. Do I
think he's getting in on the first I'm going to
save that. I'm want to save that, but I will,
I will sort the crap from the manure, as they say,

(01:30):
how about these NBA playoffs? You know, the NBA regular
seasons is for gayzy, pretty obvious, it's meaningless. These playoffs
have been pretty good. Lots of twists and turns, and
we've got a great game seven about thirteen and a
half hours from now. The NFL schedule was released this
week May fourteenth, Wednesday, and you know I always noticed

(01:51):
the oddit ease and unusual quirks in the schedule. I
got a Baker's dozen for you tonight. I'll give you
a little tease. How about the Super Bowl champs thes
What if I told you, yes, they actually play a
football game this year on five different days of the week, Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday,

(02:11):
a Black Friday matchup, and then Saturday in week sixteen.
But yet somehow they don't have back to back home games,
and they're Slate. How about the lovable Dallas Cowboys on
their way to another seven to ten season. They're the
first team ever to have four Thursday games that includes
the season opener versus the Eagles. Go figure. Then they

(02:31):
got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, the Lions on a Thursday,
and Christmas Day with the Washington Commandos. There you go.
Nicely done. Okay, cam Ward I like cam Warden. I'd
like to see him play this year. I would the
first overall pick. Remember you're so enamored with the Shodoor Sanders,

(02:52):
even though not one NFL contact told me they had
him graded number one or as a first round guy.
But you know the group thin Keck Chamber was working overtime.
Some people have hit him. Uh you know rate it
as a first barney. At the end of the bar
is the guy who had that. Then the word got
out and Dion and Dion Junior and Charlo and you
know they'll be okay. Well, how about cam Ward Tennessee

(03:15):
Titans don't have a single primetime game. Hold that thought,
we're gonna come back to this fodder. I always get
a kick out of these oddities that we have. Rock
Perdy got paid later on the show. I'll justify why
he's worth it. Yes, I will justify why he's worth it.
Hear me out. But I didn't know that i'd start
with this, But I have to, because after watching the

(03:37):
New York Knicks ride the Boston Celtics like a stick horse.
If you're an NBA fan, if you're a Celtics fan,
you have to ask yourself, well, where does Boston go now?
I don't know, home, dinner, maybe a show. Just fourteen
short days ago, I'm here fortnite. The Celtics were favored
to come out of the Eastern Conference according to that

(03:59):
anonymous player's poll. They thought they'd win, The media thought
they'd win. I didn't really have an opinion, but I
didn't rule sure as hell, didn't rule them out. But
nobody really repeats anymore. And you figured, well, even if
they didn't win this year, maybe they get to the
finals and they're still well stacked to make another great
run in twenty twenty six. Right now, yeah, not so much.

(04:23):
First of all, the Celtics. You're never gonna like the
way you lose. But this the Celtics, their second round
series against the Knicks was an abject disaster. You start
with consecutive twenty point blown leads at home, you go
down oh two. Then Boston squandered away a fourteen point
lead in Game four when Jason Tatum ruptured his rd

(04:45):
achilles during a last gas attempt. That play might have
cost the Celtics next season. Two. Frankly, big Jason Tatum fan,
I think he is a class act on a heat.
You talk about Tyrese Halibert not getting love, I don't know.
I think Jason Tatum there's more love. And then finally, mercifully,
it came to an end at Madison Square Garden one
nineteen eighty one, and now the Celtics are going to

(05:08):
be left to scratch their heads for the soft season.
Why well, I'll tell you why. Jason Tatum is going
to miss a consequential period in his career. He's I
think the best player on Boston's team, maybe still the
best team in the NBA on paper, and not just
for the rest of this playoff run, for much of
next season two, if not all the next season. And

(05:29):
he's only twenty seven years old. That's not usual. It's
rare a caliber player like Jason Tatum just has this
type of a devastating injury, A catastrophic injury at a
time when he's really entering his prime, A real centima moment,
seminal moment for Jason Tatum and the entire Celtic family. See,

(05:51):
because without Tatum, the Celtics are going to have to
find their wins elsewhere some quick path. Tatum is worth
between nine and ten wins in each of the plast
four seasons per Basketball Reference. Now, the Celtics will somehow
try to mitigate their loss, but you don't so easily
replace Jason Tatum. Part of the reason is the Celtics
are in salary cap hill. Boston might be able to

(06:13):
get some cap relief and a lot of Tatum's injury.
For the most part, the Celtics remain on the hook
for his fifty four million dollar cap hit. By the way,
the Celtics are above the NBA's second apron tax penalty
threshold and they're poised to pay more penalties, and this
is for the price of keeping their championship squad together.
So at this point it's really you can't really be

(06:36):
sure how much longer the Celtic faithful the Celtic management
will want to keep paying those bills. They're actually the Celtics,
as you know, are in the middle of an ownership
change and they have a new group taking over gradually,
and they're selling the team at a record six point
one billion dollar valuation. Well, you know, you don't know

(06:58):
how you know the current see the it's complicated. The
current boss is a guy named Why Grousebeck. He's agreed
to sell the team, but he's still the governor for
three more seasons. Go figure. So what are the Celtics
gonna do? They could do nothing. They could hold their
nose and keep paying these enormous tax penalties. Try to

(07:20):
make do without Jason Tatum. You know, maybe you're a
lot of good Catholics in Boston. You know, maybe you're
rope burn from the Rosaries. Will heal and you will
find solutions. Maybe he comes back sooner than you'd think,
Jason Tatum, and can he still be effective? You still

(07:40):
got Jalen Brown, you still got Derek White, still got
Peyton Pritchard. They're all in their primes. But the Celtics,
they're in the middle of their sale. They're a tax crunch.
My guesses are gonna want to free up some dollars.
But the specter of a Jason Tatum less season next
year is going to be a difficult pill to Wallo

(08:01):
come October. So now I might ask Mark Medina this.
In about ten minutes, they have reached the proverbial yogi
berra fork in the road. What do I mean by that?
Dare the Celtics do they dare take apart the roster?
And well, I won't use the word rebuild, but certainly retool.

(08:23):
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We're fifty five old minutes away from midnight to midnight
hour from where I sit. It's going to be a
beauty some emotionally charged events this week, and I look
forward to our callers in Again. Before the show's over tonight,
we're going to get to the NFL schedule some more quirks,

(09:05):
some more takeaway, some more notables. Pete Rose, I want
to set the record straight. We'll get to the NBA
lottery not buying the conspiracy. We've got the midnight hour,
your calls and much before it. Oh yeah, brock Perty
got paid as well. Maybe we'll even get to to
Draymond Green, who had more choice words? Why not? I'm

(09:26):
Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your line from the
Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios, So keep it locked
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Speaker 2 (09:47):
All right, we're back on the Bernie Frattle Show Fox
Sports Radio. Just getting started. We'll take you up to
three a m. Pacific six am Eastern. A lot of
stuff to get to, but as you know, every Saturday
night at this time, well three simple words, It's that time.

(10:08):
Mark Medina Medina Magic, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru.
You hear him all around the network and now featuring
multiple intro tunes as well. Mark welcome man. How are you, buddy?
Do we have mister Medina? Okay, well we're efforting mister Medina,

(10:29):
and I'm sure we'll get him in just a minute.
All good. I want to look, I'm gonna talk to
Mark about a lot of things. But one of the
things I want to get out of the way right
now is I don't think there's any way in west
hell the NBA Draft lottery is rigged, no chance. Think

(10:51):
about the financial risk. If the NBA rigged the lottery,
it would be incredibly incredible, enormous risk for the NBA,
potential leading to what possible financial ruin or reparable damage
to the league's reputation. What the NBA lottery is designed
to do is create a more competitive league, and it

(11:11):
does so to provide a chance for struggling teams to
acquire top talent. And that's same. You know, that's what
happens here. You can accuse, you can think, and we're
gonna probably get to this at the midnight hour. All right,
let's go to Mark Badina. We now have Mark Nina.
Thanks Mark, welcome in, buddy.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
How are you, Bernie. I'm doing well? You know, another
week goes by a lot of stuff to unpacked with
the NBA.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
A ton of stuff, So we're gonna dive right to it.
I want to start. We're going to get to the
fun stuff. Game seven a little later. Yannis. One of
the chances he's wearing a Houston Rockets uniform next year.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
I think there's a really strong chance. I mean, there's
a really strong chance that he's wearing any uniform except
with the molarkey Bucks, because you know, he's made it
clear that he's not asking to leave, but he's keeping
an open mind. And usually that open mind is the
first step of having a more difficult conversation. So you know,

(12:07):
there's a lot of things that have to happen before
it gets to this point, but the fact that they're
having that step one, they're going to have tough conversations.
If Yannis ever demands to be traded, I think the
Bucks will acquiesce to it because they feel, you know what,
they went through three consecutive first round next sits. They
got to get someone in return. But I don't think

(12:28):
they'll do it until Yannas asked them first. Now your question,
do the Houston Rockets to get them? That's my guess,
But they want them, They do want them, but at
what cost? And that's that's really the tough thing. I
think what the playoffs showed is that their youth is
not good enough to win a playoff series. They need

(12:50):
to add another championship veteran and a star player, but
they don't want to get rid of all their youth
in continuity. So you know, if it's Jalen Green, Jabari
Smith Junior and some draft picks, I could see it happening.
But I don't think that they'll empty the cover bear.
And that's where the challenge is going to be, because
expect a very fluid off season with the dominant start

(13:12):
with Giannasnte Tokumpo and Kevin Durant. There's going to be
interested teams, but I think the interested teams will also
try to draw a wine that they're not going to
get either superstar at the expense of serious roster depth.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well ever so quickly, it's my understanding they've got a
meeting set up in Milwaukee this week sometime with Giannis
and the Brass. I doubt us to talk about who's
bringing potatoes down to the picnic?

Speaker 4 (13:37):
No, I think I think we're going to talk about
what bratworths they're going to get in, you know, season
tickets for the Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
There you go, all right, so we'll see. This is
interesting when we after the Luca trade, I mean, maybe
the floodgates have open, maybe it's open season. And the
next guy on the list is, of course, is Kevin Durant.
And the question is is there much of a market
for Kevin Durant And in terms of what you might
have to pay for him.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Yeah, I don't. If this was ten years ago, the
market would be twenty nine NBA teams. But given what's
going on now where he's later in his career, he's
still playing at a high level, but he's not always
available because of his health, and he also had a
very expensive salary. He earns every penny here. But when
it comes to again teams managing assets and wayne, do

(14:24):
you want you know, good rotation players, depth young players,
I think teams are airing on that side. And you know,
one of the many reasons is they can look at
what happened with the Phoenix Suns last few years when
they decided a load up on the star player system
didn't really work out. So I think the most realistic
options in order is Miami, Houston, San Antonio. But my

(14:47):
money is on the Heat getting Kevin Durant for ls here. Well,
hear me out, Bernie. I think Miami they feel after
the Jimmy Butler Stavia did not wear out and they
got embarrassed by the Cleveland Cavalier in the first round.
It's not even winning a single game. They feel they
got to make some changes. Now here's the challenging part.

(15:07):
I don't think Miami is ready to give up any
combination of bam Adebio Tyler Hero. So who does that
leave them with on what to offer the Phoenix Suns.
Well draft picks Andrew Wiggins, Himy Hawkins, Junior Duncan Robinson.
They're all good players, not great. Andrew Wiggins a good
two way talent, but not consistent. But here's the thing.

(15:30):
The market value is a two way street here. I
think the Phoenix Suns are going to be in a
position of desperation because they're not going to find much
of a market for Kevin Durant. And even though that
matter should be a talk's a big game that he
doesn't believe in rebuilds and he believes in Devin Booker,
and he's a huge fan of Kevin Durant. He's gone
through two coaching changes in consecutive seasons. He's gone through

(15:53):
early playoff exits and consecutive seasons. He's got to do
something different or else. So just fulfill the definition of insanity,
which is doing the same thing over and over again.
I expecting a different result.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
All right, I'm glad you mentioned Jimmy Butler because I'm
going to jump to quote playoff Jimmy I for what
it's worth. In my eyes, his stock has dropped like
a un andle and a bugs Bunny cartoon because it
get one win Mark to get Curry back on the
floor ostensibly, and playoff Jimmy was not so much playoff Jimmy,

(16:26):
and that's the reason they got him. Not so much.
Their effective highly effective with him and Steph at least
during the regular season, but with Steph out. You hope
he can carry the load. One time I didn't.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
I was very.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Unimpressed with Jimmy Butler during the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Your thoughts, you spoke the truth, You spuck the gosfele here.
So just preaching, I'll continue to back you up here
with you one hundred percent. To be clear, the Warriors
loss without Steph Curry as a team. But to your point,
Jimmy Butler has to be the guy. That doesn't mean
he has to be a high volume shooter, but he's
got to lead the team and drag him the wins

(17:03):
by whatever means necessary. And under that definition, he didn't
do it. And since appointing for two reasons, instant success
in the regular season, Now, a lot of that has
to do with the fact that he was playing with
Steph Curry. But we've seen Jimmy Butler be able to
carry an average team in the Miami Heat as an
eighth seed to the twenty twenty three NBA Finals. Now,
you know, like that twenty twenty three playoff run age,

(17:26):
and you know, some injuries caught up to him. So
I'm not discounting that that fault in Houston was a
real scary injury. But he's got to rise above it
and still make an imprint on the game. And so
moving forward, all this talk that oh, yeah, the Warriors
are going to be fine next season because of all
this great chemistry that he and Steph had, and you
know Steff's going to be healthy, well, Steph's already getting old,

(17:48):
so to assume that he's going to be healthy is
fools gold. Jimmy Butler is the same way, and we've
seen that the supporting cast it's good, but not great
and not quite good enough to make a playoff push.
So I think the next domino here is what do
they do with Jonathan Kamena. He's going to be a
restricted free agent. You know, the Warriors are likely going

(18:09):
to give him a qualifying offer only because they then
can match any other offer other teams give them. But
the rating is on the wall that they're going to
do a signing trade. Even though that owner Ja Lakeup
is very high on Johnathan Kamiga. Steve Kerr isn't as much,
and partly it's because he trusts veterans more and also
with Kaminga himself. He's a great athletic player, lots of potential,

(18:33):
lots of upside with how he is as defender. He's
grown as a shooter, but he's very inconsistent. He's very
erratic with his decision making, and so they're going to
trade him. But the challenging part is what do they
get in return? They have to have win now players,
that not only win in the regular season, but win
in the playoffs. And that's very hard to find, especially

(18:55):
when you're dealing with a promising but inconsistent young player.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Let's flip. We're talking with Mark deinam Adina Magic every
Saturday night here on the Bernie Fratto Show. He's our
Fox Sports Radio NBA Google you hear him all around
the network. Let's slip to the Boston Celtics is not
sure if you're an opening monologue, but you never like
the way you lose. Let's face it, though, New York
wrote him like a stick horse. And now you've got

(19:20):
Jalen Brown with the torn meniscus. That's not that big
a deal. But losing Jason Tatum heading into his you
know prime, he's twenty seven years old. I think Boston's
got real problems. Do they make a bunch of roster
moves or they just kind of hold their nose? They're
in salary cap Hell, what do you do for your Boston?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, they can't hold their nose. You know they might
in a perfect world just say hey, let's run it back. Well,
they're only in season removed from winning a championship. Excuse me,
Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown are still, you know, young
and in their prime, but you put it correctly, they're
in salary cap hell. They have to make tough decisions.
So here's what's gonna happen. Jason Tatum, he's gon to

(20:00):
come back at some point next season. I think that
he's still going to be a good player, but he's
not going to be the same player. The good thing
that's going for him is he's in his twenties, not
his thirties. But Dominique Wilkins is literally the only success
story as far as a player that played better post Achilles.
There's been a lot of comeback stories, whether it's Klay Thompson,
Kobe Bryant, DeMarcus Cousins, you go down the line, they

(20:23):
all returned. You credit them for their resiliency in their fight,
but they weren't the same players once they came back.
So I think Jason Tatum is still going to be
an all Star caliber player, but I don't know if
he's going to be in the best phases of the
league moving forward. So that's number one. Number two. I
don't think they deal with Jalen Brown, but I think

(20:43):
all their other supporting cast members outside of Derek White,
because he is under contract for a few more years,
is up for graps. So that could be Drew Holliday,
Christoph Porzingis, and basically every other role player that's on
the market for a deal. And it's not just because
again the Selick's are upset that they want early in
the playoffs and they expects they content for a championship.

(21:05):
They are what you said in salary capital. So again,
under the second apron, they're going to have to make
some tough basketball decisions.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, they are going to be very tough basketball decisions.
So we'll see what they look like next year. All Right,
I was reluctant to bring up this subject.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
But I have to celeber Ronnie came let's go.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh No, I'm never reluctant to bring up Ronnie. I
think he's the face of the NBA. Yeah. Absolutely. Bottom
line is these Ever since nineteen eighty five and the
Patrick ew and frozen envelope, there have been allegations of
the rigged you know lottery. Look, the notion that the

(21:45):
NBA would conspire to do this, you know, which would
ruin them in their reputation and finding if it was
ever proven and there's no evidence. And I get how
neutral observers are outraged by what they see. And it
wasn't just what happened Wednesday. You got to situation going
back what Anthony Davis. They got picked by New Orleans

(22:07):
after they traded Chris Paul Right, Zion picked Zion after
trading Anthony Davis, the Magi, the MAV's not get Cooper Flagg.
This has been going on. There's been these long shots.
Chris Webber was one point five percent to go to
the Magic and back in nineteen ninety three, Jarrick Rose
in two thousand and eight. It's happened a bazillion times.
I'm just going to give you the floor. Please open
the window, clear the fog, let some fresh air into

(22:30):
the room so people can understand. Truly, there's no way
this could have been rigged.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, there's no way it could be rigged. A lot
of crazy coincidences. I get it. But I was in
the I've been in the NBA Draft lottery room for
a few years in twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen during the Lakers rebuilding years. And the way
it works is it's in a private room before the

(22:55):
lottery even takes place live because it's a longer process
than the televised broadcast. And there's you know, for every
lottery team, there's a team official, there's a bunch of
league officials. There's about ten different writers that are there
to be witnesses. There's a whole accounting firm that witnesses.
So to pull off this kind of heist would require

(23:18):
a lot of machinery that would go over everyone's eyes.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Here.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
It just isn't realistic. And let me walk you through it.
There's you know, a manufacturing company that measures and evaluates
the ping pong balls themselves to make sure that the
NBA Draft Lottery is not another version of the flight gates.
That's number one, number two again, an independent accounting firm

(23:42):
witnessing the entire turn of events. There is someone who
takes time with a stopwatch to make sure that there
is equal time for each ball to come out of
the machine, right, so it's equal time. There. There's also
judges that have their backs turned against the person picking

(24:05):
the balls to then turn around and tell them to stop.
So there's a lot of good checks and balances and
being there to see all this play by play for
a few years. I can tell you full confidence it's
not rigged. And for people who don't believe me that's
not rigged, it would be more implausible than the opening
scene the Dark Knight the Batman movie, or that crazy

(24:28):
bank robbery game organized by the Joker somehow took place
and was unbelievable. So, yeah, it's not rigged. But I
get all the coincidences.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Why so serious? By the way, I'm glad you mentioned
a little known fact. There are journalists in the room
and you saitting you were there in twenty fourteen. Well,
guess who drafted number one overall? They had at one
point seven percent chance it was Cleveland. They got Andrew Wiggins,
So you were there for one of those. Yeah, so
you know your points taken. You know, I'm probably gonna

(25:03):
talk about this in the Midnight Hour because I respect
other people's opinions. When you have these many bizarre occurrences,
and there's too many for me to list in this conversation,
I might do it later in the show. I understand
that a reasonable person, a rational person normally in their life,
a neutral observer could be outraged and shot rigged. But

(25:24):
the problem is the claim doesn't hold up the scrutiny
when you consider the narrative you just gave and the
checks and balances that exists, well, that enabled Dallas to
get the number one overall pick. There's no dobt in
my mind. I check with people. They will draft Cooper Flag.
They're not gonna screw this up and try to trade
it for your honest or no, they will take they
will not look a gift towrs in the mouth. So

(25:45):
all of a sudden, now you might have a Dallas
team next year. When you get Kyrie Irving back and
Anthony Davis and Cooper Flag, They're gonna make some noise. Now,
I'm not ready to throw Nico a bone yet. I've
said I'm gonna wait three years. But this keeps pressure
on the Lakers to keep Luca. What is the current
contract situation with Luca? Not the current contract situation, the

(26:08):
current landscape with which the Lakers are trying to lock
him up long term.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, I mean he's eligible for an extension August first,
he could sign excuse me, a four year deal if
he wants to, or he can wait until the following
year to sign a five year max. So I think
the expectations. Regardless of whether he does that, He's going
to be under contract next season, so he's not going anywhere.

(26:33):
Even though he was very heartbroken and disappointed that the
Mavericks traded him, he's embraced being with the Lakers, being
part of that organization, wanting to win a championship, wanting
to show that he has what it takes to win
a title. He loves playing with Lebron James. He idolized
the Lake Kobe Bryant. So I don't think he has
any misgivings about having a long term future with the Lakers.

(26:56):
It's just going to come down to nitty gritty financials
that does he want to wait to do that extension
for another year because he could then be eligible for
even more money, or would he like to go with
the security And you know, a lot of times you
can't really predict these kind of things, and you understand
both reasons why players might opt in for the deal

(27:18):
early or decide to wait another year. But as to
pertains a Luca, I want to interpret any decision as
any writing on the wall about his feelings toward the Lakers.
Mark this down. He is going to be a Laker
long term.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Fair enough, All right, let's look ahead. We are all
very much looking forward to the Pacers Knicks Eastern Conference
final series. My eyes are on Mitchell Robinson. He's not
being talked about enough. He missed like the first sixty
games of the season, but what a playoffs he's had.
I did a little research with Mitchell Robinson on the

(27:54):
floor against Boston, his plus minus was plus forty six.
By the way, when he was not on the floor,
the next plus minus was plus three. How big of
a factor is Mitchell Robinson in your eye? In your
eyes coming up with a series against the Pacers or
what are the angles you're seeing?

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Well, it's huge because he's their best defender on the floor,
and he gives them a lot of length. You know,
obviously Karl Anthony Towns is another seven footer, but you
know his value is more on the offensive end, with
just his pick and roll chemistry, with Jalen Brunson, his
ability to hit threes, great post up game, but Mitchell
Robinson defines their defensive tenacity. And I know oj I

(28:37):
nob he's a great defender. Same thing with Michale Bridges,
Josh Hart's great defender. They have enough wing defenders, but
they really need a lockdown big man. You know, even
in today's NBA where it's all about small ball and
shooting a lot of freeze, it's very important to have
a good rim protector because you know, guys try to
try the basket, get foul calls, and also host matchups

(29:00):
where they're trying to get a big onto a guard
so they can cross them up and create a viral moment.
And he doesn't have those things. The only thing that's
been holding him back, as you mentioned to is he's
had some different injuries, but when he's been on the floor,
he has been a true difference maker with the Necks,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
One thing, and of course I was in Detroit right
in the middle of the Rick Carlisle era before he
was unceremoniously fired and went to Indiana and was there
for the mentals of the Palace. I have a lot
of respect for Rick Carlile and I got a feeling
he's going to put Jalen Brunson in a vice. He
has a tendency to put size on a team's top score,
especially when you know you're the size of Jalen Brunson,

(29:41):
I got a sneaking suspicion. I know this is going
to piss a lot of people off, hopefully to my
good friend Jason Smith. I've got a sneaking suspicion that
the Knicks are going to screw this up and Rick
Carlisle's going to have a coaching clinic. You've got the
flashword on that.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Wow, Well, Rick Carlile is a great coach, a great tactician.
I think that, Yes, you're looking at the Pacers. Obviously
a lot of attention on Tyres Halliburn because of the
whole underrated narrative with the anonymous poll and him making
clutch shots. He's the best passer in the NBA. But
they have a lot of good complimentary players. Pascal Siakam.

(30:16):
He is one of those defensive options that Rick Carlisle
can go with because he's so great on the wings,
great length and knows how to be physical. The same
thing with Obi Toppin. But as much as I think
the Pacers has their past expectations, they play well as
a team. They play at a really fast paced I
think the Knicks are onto something. Jalen Brunson has cemented

(30:38):
himself as a really good star in this league. I
think one of the best clutch players in the NBA,
and Mitchell Robinson's been a the game changer. The Villanova
squad's been a game changer. I think that their identity
is just this defensive minded, gritty type team with a
really tough point guard that knows how to make play

(30:59):
plays down the tretch. It's a really tough combination to beat.
So I will go with New York. I'm sorry to
upsot you, but no, iide I love it.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
This is fun. Look, I'm going to pick the Pacers
and six. They go eleven deep. They've got at least
ten guys in their roster who played at least nineteen
minutes per game during the playoffs. I got a lot
of faith in Rick Carlisle. I've seen him up close
and in personal. And there's one last thing we haven't
even brought up. I think the Pacers learned a lot
from getting swept in the Eastern Conference Finals against the

(31:31):
Celtics last year. And if you remember the first two games,
they could have easily won both of those games. I
think they're going to be back with a vengeance the
same way the eighty seven Pistons came back in eighty
eight when Kevin Mchaal whispered in Isaiah Thomas's ear. So
we'll have fun going back and forth in the next
couple of weeks because one of us has to be
right correct.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
At one hundred percent. There's a two results when it
comes to professional sports, wins or losses. And I think
that you're on the money about the Pacers. I mean,
we have to keep in mind that they're playoff shortcomings
and also the rough start to open the season, a
lot of it had to do with the fact that
tyres Halburn wasn't fully healthy. So now that he's reasonably healthy,

(32:10):
you know, under playoff standards goes. That's a real game
changer because he is not only their best player, but
he's really what their identity is, playing fast tempo, playing
really good as a team, having a balance offense, and
powering teammates. So that's obviously a huge game changer. Or
whenever he's at.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
The healthiest, just remember they go ten to eleven deep,
and I think you're going to see Rick Carlisle find
ways to bother Jason Jalen Brunson. Yeah, look, man, you
know I'm no Dumby. I was class fallows of Tourny.
My summer school were media class in a repeated the
eighth grade. So I think through these things, Mark, last thing,

(32:50):
Game seven in twelve and a half hours. I'm gonna
throw something else at you because you love these things. Look,
it's terrible that Aaron Gordan's got a hammy. He's just no.
He will be lucky if he's fifty percent of what
he is. You know, Nikole jok will be everything you
expect him to be. A bit how much gas to
him and Jamal Murray have when the fourth quarter rolls

(33:12):
around and there's a reason Okse won sixty eight games
and they go ten D two words. Russell Westbrook. They've
been leaving him open all series. He's been atrocious. He
has one game left, Mark, to win you over. You
got about thirty seconds. Does Russell Westbrook come through Sunday?
Keep an eye on him.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I do not think he comes through some that well.
Keith exceeded my expectations in the playoffs, but that was
a different opponent. So I think he's going to come
back to the old former virus. Even though the Nuggets
have some pass expectations. Overall, you hit the nail on
the head. Aron Gordon's standing with a hamstring injury. I
think Jamal Murray has shown that he's finally playoff Jamal,
whether he's dale with a illness or not. Takole Jokhich

(33:53):
is a triple double machine, but they Oklahoma said he's
under their regular season record.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Isn't a fluke.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
I think Chevy ojis Alexander It's going to have an
MVP performance, Joe Waite Williams is going to have a
balance back performance, and they're really going to try to
get after it defensively. They have so many wing players
and that's what's gonna wind up helping them prevail in
a game seven.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Well, next time this week, Uh, let me try that
again an English Mark. This time next week, we'll have
two whole games into books. Please, two games we eat
now and next Sunday, and we'll see where it's at.
And the Knicks check that the Pacers six hundred been
playing six hundred basketball on the road, uh since February.

(34:36):
So I'm going to looking forward to this series. Mark,
great stuff is always I'm already looking forward to next Saturday.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Appreciate you, my friend. Let's book it next week.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
All right. That is thanks. That is Mark Medina, Medina
Magic every Saturday night on Fox Sports Radio, Bernie Frattle Show,
coming up, Keep it locked. This is the part we
look forward to the most. We're seventeen minutes away eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine, eight seven seven ninety nine
on Fox. We have three topics and even a three
A I'll throw in there for the hell of it,

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based on something that happened Saturday. Dying to hear what
the callers have got to say. From where I sit.
In seventeen minutes, it will be twelve midnight literally from
where you sit, perhaps the same, but certainly figuratively twelve
millyon night, which means you get the last word in
the midnight hour. We'll set those topics up. Coming up.
I'm Bernie Frattle, or come to your line from the
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(35:29):
listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, back on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio,
ten minutes away the midnight hour. Give us a call
eight seven, seven, nine and nine on Fox eight seven seven, nine,
nine six six three sixty nine, Topic number one. All right,
let's dive right into it. Do you believe the NBA

(35:52):
Draft lottery is rig Now you heard what I had
to say, but I got a lot of good listeners
and a lot of times folks treat at me. For instance,
Todd Pessitene from Pittsburgh, I think he says, can't wait
to hear your thoughts on Pete Rose and a crooked NBA.
So he thinks, well, you can read through the lines
there if you believe it is, just tell me why

(36:13):
you think it is. This is all good, but the
most boring conversations are when everybody agrees. Okay, look, you
go back to nineteen eighty five, the pre lottery, the
team of the worst record simply got the first pick.
But then that next year they introduced the lottery. They
implemented a lottery system to deter teams from intentionally losing,

(36:34):
and the first lottery used envelopes with team names. That
is when it started the alleged lead. The Commission reached in.
There was a frozen envelope. It was the Micks, and
they got Patrick Ewing. He felt a we'll never know.
Then they went to a weighted lottery system in nineteen
ninety using ping pong balls, which they still have. And look,
the NBA is as transparent as they can be. You

(36:54):
just heard remark when Dein He said to that end
now that Dallas is going to get Cooper lag and
they'll have eventually Kyrie Irving back and Anthony Davis. Is
Nico perhaps going to get vindicated two three years down
the road, or maybe even next year because everybody laughed
him off when he made the trade. I said, let's
just wait three years. Obviously looks bad. He's a loser

(37:16):
out of the gate. He's in last place right now.
But I don't have any fateth The Lakers gonna win
the championship with Luca been a professional BASKETBA player twelve years.
He's going to show up and be Gary Payton. I
don't think so. The third subject is in this I
expect to get some of our best calls on this ever.
I really do, because we've talked about this before, the

(37:38):
reluctant redemption of Pete Rose. All right, I continue right now.
The Athletic did a poll. They got eighteen thousand votes
amongst the public, fifty three percent says no, he won't
Pete will never get into the Hall of Fame. Forty
seven percent says yep, he's the all time hit king.
They also did a poll among twelve famous baseball players

(38:02):
and many of them were interesting. You know, four said yes,
two said no, and the rest punted. Well, if you
punt that, that's not a yes, is it. So you
know what's gonna happen is in December of twenty twenty seven,
the Airas Committee will meet to vote on players before

(38:25):
nineteen eighty. So Pete's gonna have his Dan Courty as well.
We don't know who the committee is going to be,
but he's still going to be twelve out of sixteen votes.
All right. A lot of people feel doesn't serve any
fruitful purpose to keep him out of the Hall of
Fame anymore. These accomplishments are undeniable on the field. If
you borrow him on character issues, well it creates some hypocrisy.

(38:45):
By the way, I think Joe Jackson choose Joe Jackson
should get in. I know he took five grand, the
guy was illiterate, signed his name, didn't know what the
hell he was doing, batted three seventy five and the
nineteen nineteen World Series got twelve hits, which at the
time was the world Series record, and he didn't make
a single air. All right, so we got is the
NBA Draft Lottery rid? Do you believe it is? Mike,

(39:06):
Nico and Dallas given his good fortune have the last
laugh three years from now? And Pete Rose, how do
you feel?

Speaker 7 (39:13):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
By the way, is this a big fe you to
Pete Rose? Will they wait till he's dead to do this?
Do you think he gets in on the first ballot
as he deserved to get in? And then topic three
A if you would like to, you can weigh in
on the Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese little dust up today.
I don't think it was a flagrant file. I get it.
Angeuries had seventeen rebounds? Ye had that in fifty cents

(39:35):
to get one of her McDonald's meals. If you lost
by thirty five? Did you really get eighteen rebound? Is
this even a rivalrymore? Can we stop?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
But you know what I got?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Smart callers, Let's hear what you gotta say eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine
six six three sixty nine Draft Lottery, Nico, Pete Rose, Angel,
and Caitlin, keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie
Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radar the midnight Hour.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fradle Show keeps
rolling right along. We're coming to your line from the
Fox Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Will take
you up to three and Pacific six am Eastern. Just
getting started and for many, including me, this is fast
becoming my favorite hour of the show because we get
to hear from the peeps. We've got three and a

(40:24):
half great topics. Tonight is the NBA Draft lottery rigged
by the way, Mike Nico Now have the last laugh
in three years. Pete Rose, you know you know what
we're looking for here. Finally, if you want a weigh
in on Angel Reese, Caitlin Clark, we'll look forward to
hearing from you. It's real simple. It's the midnight Hour,
all right. Let's like this, Kendall, we go out to Pennsylvania.

(40:46):
We're joined by Todd.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Todd.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
I believe this is your first time calling the Midnight Hour.
Welcome in.

Speaker 8 (40:52):
Thanks for having me, boy.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, I see your tweets all the time, so I know.
I'm guessing you have a very strong opinion on the
NBA lottery.

Speaker 9 (41:02):
Right, you know I did.

Speaker 8 (41:05):
I thought it was rigged and a sketchy at the least.

Speaker 10 (41:09):
However you speak, Uh, you know, I have to pull.

Speaker 11 (41:15):
It back and rain it in.

Speaker 8 (41:17):
You know, I don't think there's smoke. I don't think
there's fire. The officiating in the NBA, to me, he's just.

Speaker 10 (41:27):
It's just terrible.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
That's where the sketchiness is.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
I think it is.

Speaker 8 (41:32):
But I really wanted to speak to you about Pete Rose,
who is my hero growing up. I'll tell you what
I was lucky enough to grow up in the seventies,
Roger Staubach, Pete Rose icons.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
But what Pete Rose did.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
I got to see Pete Rose in his first game
as a Philly in the VET. He hit two home runs.
My dad missed both home runs because he was on.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
A beer run.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
So let me ask you, do you think Pete is
going to get in in the first ballot here? Will
he ever get in? Do you think he deserves to
be in?

Speaker 8 (42:06):
I think he's going to get in, but I don't
think he deserves to be in. What he did as
a manager is just you.

Speaker 11 (42:15):
You can't do that.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
You can't break those rules and expect just because.

Speaker 12 (42:22):
Of who you are, to be able to not answer
for them.

Speaker 13 (42:27):
But he's going to get in.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
Uh, he still has a whatever happens, he has a
presence in.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
The Hall of Fame. There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
That's true. He actually does a good point to But
I don't know, Todd. I appreciate you taking time to
call the night. Don't don't be a stranger by the
way top of the R one am Pacific, four m Eastern.
I'm going to give a length your commentary about Pete Rose.

Speaker 14 (42:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I want to lay it out. What what the hell
just happened? What did rob men for do? It's kind
of cleverly. What happens next? When does it happen? And
I'll give you my thoughts if I think he's getting
in or when he might be getting in. Jim in Massachusetts,
the voice the Reason from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. What's up, Jim?

Speaker 15 (43:09):
Well, I'll tell you the truth.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Bernie.

Speaker 15 (43:11):
I don't think the ping pong balls are rigged.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
You know.

Speaker 15 (43:14):
It's not like there's a little magnet in one of them.
They get sucked up to another magnet when they turn
on the switch or not. So I don't think that
any of that's going on. That was going on, and
they would have found out about that long ago. So
you know, hey, bless the Dallas. Let's see what happens
and they get that guy, and like you said, the
other two guys come back and we'll see.

Speaker 8 (43:34):
You know.

Speaker 15 (43:35):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 5 (43:36):
His balance.

Speaker 15 (43:37):
That's the whole thing about the thing is to try
to balance everything else.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, that was the ideology behind the lottery in the
first place. Hey, which I think it's done.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
No, No, that's okay as far as Pete Rose goes.

Speaker 15 (43:50):
No, I don't want him in the hall. I don't
care what he did on the field.

Speaker 16 (43:55):
Me.

Speaker 15 (43:55):
It's more of a personal thing. What he did the
fosse there in the All Star Game enough to get
that as well as I live. That's just being scumb
that's not sportsmanship, that's not anything else what he was
thinking about, I know. And that's just the way he was.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
You know.

Speaker 8 (44:11):
Everybody will say he's a good guy and everything.

Speaker 15 (44:13):
But there's always something about him and I never liked
him and I hope he never gets sent you know.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
All right, so far but do you think he will
and if so, do you think it'll be the first ballot?

Speaker 14 (44:24):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (44:24):
Well, I'll tell you right now. I think shoeless Joe
Jackson should get in. I mean, how do you throw
a game when your bat.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Three ninety that's and he was illiterate and did.

Speaker 15 (44:33):
Make an error, yeah, and all that other stuff, you know,
like he wasn't trying.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Jud Judge Landis was pissed because he took the five grand.
But I don't think he signed his name X. He
couldn't read or write. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (44:43):
I think I think all those guys were the product
of the times and what was going on and how
you know, the gangster life was big in the country
and prohibition all you know, all that that mumbo jumbo.
But I think he I think those guys all get screwed.

Speaker 8 (44:59):
But now I think.

Speaker 15 (45:02):
It all the time. Heals all wounds, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
We don't know who the committee is. I tell you
right now, Jim. The people I know, and I know
a lot, I'm going to guess that that first vote
in December of twenty twenty seven, depending on the committee is,
he's not getting twelve out of sixteen votes to first
go around. That's my prediction. That's still two years away
from this Christmas. Hey, real quickly, Jim, do you have
any thoughts. I gotta hold my nose and ask this question.

(45:28):
Any thoughts on Angel Reese Caitlin Clark today?

Speaker 15 (45:31):
Well, see, the thing the problem there is is that
all Caitlyn cares about is what happens on the court.
Angel Reese's problem is she just cares about what happens
off the court. You know, she always wants to be
in for a camera, that she always wants.

Speaker 12 (45:47):
To be doing this and that and everything, and that.

Speaker 15 (45:50):
I just don't think she has enough self discipline, you know,
to pay attention to her game.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
If well, when you win a national championship and the
first thing you do, she was a key cog on
that LSU team three years ago, and you follow Caitlyn
Clark around the floor with your hand in her face,
that's going to raise questions. Right when Carter slams slams
Caitlin from behind and she's jumping up and down, cheer
and let she just won the lottery. Just not a

(46:18):
good look. Then again, I'm not that smart, Jim. Jim,
I appreciate your calling. And he's always keeping the ball rolling,
hold it down there in the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Stephen Kansas City, always got some thoughts. What do you
got for us tonight, Steve.

Speaker 9 (46:32):
Oh, Bernie, I'm just an old country lawyer, but I
think the WNBA maybe this is awful. I mean a great,
great topics tonight. You know, this was a classic old
school retaliation. Caitlin is no longer rookie. She's got her
shot back. She waited for a chance, and she put

(46:54):
old Angel down, and Angel sold it to I mean,
it was this is textbook on how to promote your league.
We should be breaking down Joker versus SBA in Game.

Speaker 12 (47:04):
Seven, but that way, I don't really want to.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
This is the only time I'll give. I'm not going
to be an NBA guy. I w NBA guy. I
respect the product on the floor, but yeah, keep losing
fifty million here, call me when you make a few bucks.

Speaker 9 (47:16):
All right, Well, you got to you got to start somewhere,
and I'm I'm I'm here for every I'm here for
every minute of it. The first day of school. If
you're Caitlin Clark, you're no longer a rookie. You you
smacked you smacked the biggest bully that you can in
the faith.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
It was she went for the ball and got risked
right too bright. Let's let's move along. I I I
hate that NBA draft. Watterson read yes or no.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
No, and then and here's here's the thing about Pete
Rose is he's never get the veteran is it's Karmac justice.
He's going to be judged by his peers, by by
the managers, the players, the executives at his time.

Speaker 5 (47:58):
It's not a media vote.

Speaker 9 (47:59):
He's going to be strudged and he's going to be
found wanting. He's never getting in. Buck O'Neill is practically
a living saint and he got in by one vote
and they had to put a statue of him outside.
Pete Rose will never be in this Hall of Fame ever.
It will never happen because those guys hate him. Pete

(48:21):
Rose has described as you want him on your team,
but you don't want him.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
To be your neighbor.

Speaker 9 (48:26):
You don't want him in your neighborhood. The guy is
a degenerate. He's always going to be a degenerate.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
You have to accept that.

Speaker 9 (48:33):
But boy, I tell you, I mean this is this
is I don't like Rob Manfred, you know, normally, but
he's I'm going to explain at.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
One o'clock why he did what he did. I'm going
to explain that, Hey, great call is always Steve, and
I appreciate you. Don't equivocate you bringing like it is
great name drop on Buck O'Neill. I met Buck O'Neill
at the nineteen ninety one National Sports Collections Convention. What
a tremendous guy. Oh my god, played the game with joy,
not announce of bitterness in his soul because he was,

(49:03):
you know, kept out, But he just a great conversation, lived,
lived a nice long life. I'm glad he's in. Of course,
I've met Pete many times, and so I kind of
run hot and cold. I just I don't know what
to think. I don't think it serves any fruitful purpose
to keep him at anymore, but I don't think I
don't like his chances anytime soon. Well, December of twenty

(49:24):
twenty seven is with the first time the Heirs Committee vote.
I'm going over all this at one o'clock. He's gonna
need twelve out of sixteen. We don't know who the
committee is yet, so give me the names, and I'll
tell you what I think. But I'm gonna just say
I don't think he's getting in first ballot. Poppy in
San Diego, you're up next, buddy.

Speaker 12 (49:41):
Hey, Bernie, well, I lot to talk about with the NBA.
Like I met Adam Silbert.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
What can I say?

Speaker 12 (49:50):
Honest man, Like my conscious tells me it's not rap. Yeah,
you know, I met her and I got some stords
to show. I told them when it's the first, I know,
the championship, you know, like the mid season tournament, if
I can get free tickets, right, Bernie, I asked them
and he's like, hey, that's a good idea. And I

(50:11):
was waiting for your emo, Adam Silver, give me free tickets.
He didn't give me nothing, So that was a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
So it was a lottery riggs.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (50:19):
Well and then my heart says, yes, it is Ray completely.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
It is. How the hell do you do that, Poppy?
How would they possibly pull that off?

Speaker 12 (50:28):
Well? This is this is this is how they come up.
They have like some they've been practicing to be born.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
They have some numbers.

Speaker 12 (50:33):
All they do it and like put some little bunches
behind the things and make like buttons.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
With twelve journalists in the room. Yeah with you, Poppy,
you know I love you, But you haven't been in
a grandpas You got a little too much dip on
your chip tonight. Dear big fella, you have been in
a grandpa's cough syrup tonight, have you?

Speaker 16 (50:50):
Well?

Speaker 12 (50:50):
Actually, yeah, Bernie actually went to the San Diego FC
game and now actually we tired. So maybe that's why
I hear me like a little voice out.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
But yeah, let's let's move on to ped road. Is
will he get in the Hall of Fame? And does
he deserve it? What are your thoughts?

Speaker 12 (51:03):
Yeah, yeah, pee rolls, I honestly think he deserved it.
He's a Hall of Famer. Now with all this sports
betting going on, everything's being legalized, like you can't punish him.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Like see that's where the Lions get a little blurred. Now,
yes see that's you still I players can't bet anymore
and stuff. But it's a little hypocritical when you got
people in the stamps betting on their apps in the
game in progress exactly. And I know the dob report
has evidence of Pete Bett as a player manager, but
he paid his time. He's dead. He's thirty years. I mean,

(51:32):
I guess all I'm saying thirty six years doesn't certain
be fruitful purpose anymore. All Right, you got real quickly.
You got the last word, Poppy.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (51:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (51:39):
And also I was gonna tell you tomorrow is going
to be a great game. I'll pre pick that's Thunder
Minders eight and a half. I think that thunder gonna win.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
And Clayton Clark.

Speaker 12 (51:46):
I was gonna have a good one right here with
Angel Reeds. This is what I got, Bernie Angel Reeves,
like Clayton Clark.

Speaker 5 (51:52):
Bernie even touched you.

Speaker 12 (51:53):
I got some suggestions for you. How about you go
to the jams, you work lower bodies, you get the
muscles instead of going on and live thank your social
media and this isn't that. How about you build some muscles.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
So that was a hard fall, Yeah, Poppy, appreciate it.

Speaker 16 (52:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
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The Midnight Hour is rolling right along, and go back
out to the phone. Lines Mark and Maryland. Thanks for
hanging on. What do you got for us tonight? Buddy?

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Hey Bernie, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Man?

Speaker 5 (53:35):
You the best?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (53:36):
The first topic, the NBA is absolutely not rigged, but
the coincidence in the draft dates back to Pat Ewing
as you as you said, so it's suspect. But my
thing is the system is broken.

Speaker 10 (53:52):
Change it.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
The draft is supposed to reward the lesser team, the
richer getting richer, redesign it. I don't know what they're doing,
but it's not working. The Mavericks had one point eight.
You know, I'm a Wizards fan. You know, I was
really hoping for this franchise player. I think, and I'm
not getting racial. I think he's the best American born

(54:17):
white player since Larry Bird. He has that type of potential.
You know, he's a franchised player. So you know, Dallas
getting them just made me absolutely sick.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Okay, justifiably.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
Yeah, And it bailed out Nico because he's trash. Okay,
you know now now now everything is over, Okay, it
worked out for it. He wanted the lottery, that's what
he did. So anybody I want to comment on Pete Rose,
I'm making it quick for you. Pete Rose deserves to
be in the Hall of Fame, first ballot based on

(54:50):
baseball performances. Okay, he's paid his debt. It's personal now.
Charlie Hustle, the Big Red Machine was one of the
best teams ever.

Speaker 12 (55:00):
What ever, you know.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
So that's the way I feel about that, and they're
just piling on. Pete Rose needs to get it, you know,
just based on base The whole of fame to me
is based on baseball performance. It's personal now. It's about character. Yeah,
I hete bet on the game. It's egregious and they
made him pay for it. But enough is enough, you
know what I mean? Pete Rose is one of the

(55:22):
best baseball players ever in history.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Stay on the line, Mark, stay here, stay right here.
You what you're essentially saying it s there's no fruitful
purpose after thirty years because the hardware is there. But
I want to digress for just a second. You brought
up an excellent point. I've been thinking this to myself.
Rather than I argue about the lottery, change it. I
believe there should be something along the lines of, once
you're eliminated, whoever has the best record. From the point

(55:46):
after being elimined. You play to win so you get
that number one pick. Just the thought, but you got
the last word.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Okay, I'm kind of torn on it. You raise a
good issue because teams are tanking, I hate but the
whole point of the draft lottery is to reward the
lesser teams and we're not doing it. So figure out
a way, NBA, because it's not working.

Speaker 14 (56:11):
I hate it.

Speaker 5 (56:13):
Last thing, Kaitlyn. Caitlyn is finally, it's finally standing up.
Reeve deserves all of it. She's a bully and don't
get me wrong, I like Reese okay, but she's making up.
Caitlyn is a generational player in my opinion. Okay, Now,

(56:33):
Reese is playing the old game where she's trying to
intimidate her because she's a lesser. She's trying to buy
bully her an intimidator because she's a lesser player, lesser talent.
So I love when Caitlyn it's kback because she's always
done little snotty things towards Kitlyn, and Caitlyn's always taking

(56:54):
up her hand, so this ain't number payback and I
love it, okay because the girl she's getting start second,
you now and she's getting more confident and she's given
Reese what she deserves. She getting some payback. And that's
all I gotta say with your sam.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Bam bam, excellent, Mark, appreciate the energy. My friend h
Kyle and Vegas. Hey, welcome back in Kyle. I missed
you last week.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Man, what's Bernie? I know, man, my worst cousin has
got me chaotic right now.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
But I got you.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
I got you. I'll try to catch it when I can,
and lately I've been missing it. But I'm gonna make
this short, sweet and concise. So I agree with your
last call of Mark with Pete Rose. Uh, people don't.

Speaker 14 (57:40):
Understand professional and personal. Take the personal feelings out of
the matter. The man deserves to be in there. I
don't even watch baseball like that, and I didn't grow
up in the air where he was around. But ever since,
you know, jose Canseco and all these other guys, and uh,
the Mark Maguires, the Sammy Sosis, the Barry Bond, you

(58:00):
know they're getting in. They they they've paid their debt,
they've gotten in, they've done their due time. Whatever however
you feel about them off field, that's that's your opinion.
Whatever they've done off the field, that's the that's your opinion. However,
professionally that man deserves to be in Kaitlin Clark.

Speaker 5 (58:18):
Angle Rees man, oh man, can we just get some
Can we get roller Derby back? You know, I keep saying,
can we just get roller Derby? Please? Please? I'm tired
of this.

Speaker 14 (58:28):
I'm tired of these women thinking that they're and not
the sound misogynistic. I'm tired of the w NBA thinking
because they have one good year of revenue that all
of a sudden they deserve to be overly hyped with
the other four major sports in this country.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
You don't. First off, it would take another seventy five
years for you to break even and then to make
a profit. So let's not go there. Angle Rees love you,
but honey, like the kids say nowadays, take several seats.
You you missed, You miss your own shots, you grab
your own rebounds. Does that count? Your double doubles are

(59:08):
off of nine to twenty seven.

Speaker 14 (59:10):
Or four thirty and you get a double double because
you're going to the free throw line. You're worse than
Shock Dwight Howard Trolder. In a recent YouTube clip, Bibe
Girl just you got one championship ring that you probably
didn't even really contribute to most of the year because
you were, you know, following up your own shot. That's

(59:31):
what you're taught to do. However, gon go to the
NBA Draft. Is the lottery?

Speaker 5 (59:37):
Is it rigged? The child in me screams yes. But
we did this topic last year, and I have to
be honest with you, did I don't think it's rigged.
It's just the luck of the bounce sometimes. I mean, heck,
you know, I'm a Bulls fan. We got Dereck Rose
in a year that we shouldn't even been nowhere near,

(59:59):
and to even get to that number one pick, and
it's just sometimes the luck of the bounce. Nico Harrison,
Is he gonna be GM of the Year? No, it's again,
he's just getting lucky. However, I do think that Cooper
Flag will be the next dirt in Dallas. If not

(01:00:19):
probably he won't have the same accolades, but he will
be something close to it. But Yeah, lastly, I just
want to say again, bring it Roller Derby.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
All right, Kyle strong stuff appreciated Mark and Kyle getting
it rolling? Am it? What's up? Buddy?

Speaker 17 (01:00:37):
What's going on, Bernie, Now, I want to talk about
Calin Clark, but I'll do you that favor and not
do it so I don't have to bore you for
a couple of minutes. But I'll start with the NBA
Draft lottery now kind of look like what Kyle said.
It's like the child in me's like, oh yeah, that's rigged.
And I've heard some people that like don't really like
no ball obviously, like on Instagram and twaiter say oh well,
it's like this is.

Speaker 18 (01:00:57):
Playing to happen.

Speaker 17 (01:00:58):
It's like, no, it wasn't, because Kyle, you can't plan injuries.
But Niko Harrison. The other thing here is I think
that this man is he's just lucky, Like this man
is the luckiest man of all time.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
The low as Rob Parker would say, I.

Speaker 17 (01:01:11):
Mean, you trade away like a generational talent and then
less than three months later you land another generational talent
with that number one pick, and I think it's gonna
make us forget.

Speaker 12 (01:01:22):
About a lot of this stuff.

Speaker 17 (01:01:23):
And less Cooper flag just completely fails and he's like
an Anthony Bennett level bus and it doesn't work out,
then that's the only way. But like this whole draft
lottery stuff is crazy. You mentioned the one point eight percent,
and the other one that I wanted to mention is
that you have a better chance of being a D
one college player that makes it to the NFL compared
to having Mavericks got the number one pick. And also

(01:01:44):
I thought it was interesting how the Spurs got the
number two pick, Like that's how you know that? Like
Mark said, like you kind of agreed with him that
this lottery might need to be changed because the Spurs, like, yeah,
they had their misfortunes, but they're rich too, and flout
ring Rose if he wrongs. I think that he deserves
to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean the
callers kind of said it perfectly. I mean, you got

(01:02:06):
to take your like personal bias out of it. And
we talked about a couple of weeks ago and I
called in. I forgot about what topic, but we were
saying that you can't have your personal bias in this
and it comes with the Pete rostuff. I mean, I
do think it was kind of a slap in the
face to wait until he passed away to kind of
like do this whole thing. But I also understand that
he is such a key factor in the MLB, and

(01:02:28):
the Hall of Fame is like what made the sport great,
you know, and what players really showcase the greatness of
that sport, and Pete Rose is one of them. So
I think he does deserve to be in considering how
we got like guys like Lebron on ads for betting
betting website, so we're in a whole different time now
and gambling's okay, so he should be okay to be
in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Bernie, all right, good stuff it Bingle, Bengal, Bongo, Jack
and South Carolina. Welcome into the Bernie Froule Show.

Speaker 19 (01:02:54):
Hey, Bernie, how you doing with the NBA Draft lottery?

Speaker 20 (01:03:00):
Really with the NBA, And the bottom line is it's
reputation precedes it. I mean they, I mean they could
bring the pulpe end to run the lottery. It ain't
gonna work that. Somebody's always going to think it's rigged.

Speaker 13 (01:03:10):
But it's because of the whole history of the NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Well, I have a really good point there, Jack, because
guess whatever, there's a bad call in the NFL that's rigged,
bad call in the NBA. So I think a lot
of the you know, default anger, misplaced anger when someone
doesn't get their way. And I'm not picking on anybody
because sports fans are emotional. Short for a fanatic. You
bring up a good point when you look at the history,

(01:03:34):
that's Chris for the mill continue on.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Jack, Yeah, so it's it's not rigged.

Speaker 20 (01:03:39):
But with Pete Rose, I mean, look, the man played
like his hair was on fire, which means his brain
was probably singed. Do you do some dumb things? Yeah,
but he'll he'll eventually get in. Maybe not first ballot,
but they're gonna they'll eventually put him in. When they
look at it and say the man was a great
player's kind of dumb with some things, but he'll get in.

(01:04:00):
You go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna say. I think the
Caitlyn Clark Angel Rees thing, I need a couple of
years on that. It's a media creation.

Speaker 13 (01:04:09):
At this point still it's too early.

Speaker 20 (01:04:12):
Let me see in a couple of years now, then
we'll know if it's a real kind of rivalry kind
of thing going on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I don't think it's, Jack. I appreciate you hitting on
all the bullet points. I don't think it's a rivalry.
Arew Reeves took over a team that made the playoffs
and they didn't make the playoffs. Last year, Caitlyn Clark
took over a Bob lall Er, they made the playoffs.
This year, they might play for a championship, but you'd
lose by thirty eight. Yeah, I missed me with that one.
I don't really see the rivalry at this point. I
think it's a situation where there's some personal animus, mostly

(01:04:40):
coming from angel Rees side. That's okay, she's a human being.
I don't subscribe to her actions, but we're talking about it.
Paul and Denver, Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. Hello, Paul,
you're on the air, budl Paul in Denver, going once,
going twice. Paul, I appreciate you call in call back.

(01:05:03):
It looks like you got distracted there. Either that or
that was one hell of a Marcel Marceaul imitation. Andrew
and Bakersfield Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show.

Speaker 13 (01:05:13):
Hey, Bernie, I thought about starting the call with like
a snoring sound, but anyways.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
You can huh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Sound effects are welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:05:24):
I think the NBA lottery is not rigged, but I
would say this if it is not Nico Harrison has
to be stoked, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Well, he's got a real reprieve if they do some
with it. Now, I think if you're Nico, you got
rope burns from your rosary. You're hoping that Kyrie comes
back healthy, ad doesn't get hurt again, and all of
a sudden you got three. You got a pretty damn
good core of three to go into the NBA season
next year.

Speaker 12 (01:05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:05:55):
So Pete Rose, now we know why he was hustling hard.
He was paying, he was playing for his rent.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Okay here all week to show Saturday, don't forget to
try the semi bonus spaghetti continue on my friend.

Speaker 13 (01:06:12):
But I don't think he should get in, you know it,
that's fair. It affected his play correct possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Well, look, this is a highly charged situation and if
you don't feel that should get in, I can't you know,
practice Sandwicheur psychology with lot a license about what it affected.
And his numbers were certainly there top of the R
one am I'm gonna give a pretty I'm gonna have
a pretty strong journalistic commentary covering all English. But if
you don't feel I should get it, and that's good
enough of me. Do you have anything on Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 13 (01:06:40):
And uh uh no, I didn't see it, so I'll
wait for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
All right. Hey, always appreciate it, Andrew. I love the
Bakersfield single A Dodgers. I think they still exist. I
don't know, maybe not. Hey, Rick in Louisiana, back in
the fold, welcome back in the Bernie Frattle Show.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Yes, sir, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
How are you to not doing well?

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
You doing well?

Speaker 6 (01:07:04):
As far as the lottery being rigged, I won't say
that it's rigged, but I can understand why a person
would feel that it's rigged because it's a business, and
if it's something that's going to help promote the business
because there's a product they're putting out there, I can
understand that because at the end of the day, it

(01:07:24):
is a business. But I will say that it's not rigged.
But when you watch enough sports, though, you know I'm
still chewing on the fact that should do it and
go to the fifth round. I look at when BF
Mode got Peattle to the one yard line, but then
Tekel decides to throw the ball on the one yard

(01:07:46):
line instead of giving it to be smoked. That wasn't
a good look. Sometimes things just aren't a good look.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
You know what you're dealing with, human beings. Rick looked
in New York Jets were a seventeen point underdog. Some
people thought to the Baltimore Colts and Super Bowl three
Bob Yucker once hit a home run off Sandy Kofact.
Sometimes we just have to go with it, and I
understand that it can raise questions. That's why I'm having
the the subject. I'd like to get to Pete Rose.

(01:08:13):
Your thoughts on Peter Rose.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
With Pete Rose that I think that eventually he will
get in, but I think there's still people that are upit.
And if that committee that you were discussing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
You can be sure of it, you can be sure
of it. Rick, I'll.

Speaker 6 (01:08:30):
Then, no, they're not gonna let me in initially.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Any final thoughts on Kitlin Clark and injuries.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
No, I didn't catch it, so I have no comment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Well, Rick, I always appreciate you calling, always thoughtful and
uh uh, you know, hope you call back next week.
Here on the five welcome in here, we got a
barn Burner on topics tonight.

Speaker 15 (01:08:53):
His like the pizza I are going to go to
commercial first and then well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
My timing is impeccable.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
Yeah, set me up, please, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Okay, So we've got three topics. Is an NBA lottery rigged?
You know, Mike Nico have the last last three years
from now, Pete Rose? Okay? And then of course yeah,
you know what to do, all right?

Speaker 7 (01:09:14):
So, uh, is lottery rig I'm still trying to figure
out how the Lakers got James Worthy two years after
they got Magic Johnston, right, and so people are talking
about the reason to change was because of.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
What the Patrick ewing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Uh, well it was it's been rigged.

Speaker 8 (01:09:32):
Even before that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
But no, it's not rigged.

Speaker 10 (01:09:34):
It's King punk balls.

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
And if it's if that's rigged and the lottery's rigged
and Powerball and all that, I guess who the heck knows?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Pete Rose, your thoughts on that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
So we talked last week about all of the yacht,
all the all the gibber jabber about the personality. But
we're not putting people in the Hall of Fame on
their personality, right, We're putting in the Hall of Fame
over their play on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
More than just personality. He broke a he violated a
pretty serious rule as media credential since ninety four, and
if you walk in any clubhouses, it's it's right on
the wall. You bet your bands go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 7 (01:10:16):
So was he so ninety four?

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
Was you managing or was you playing still?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
He was ninety four, Pete was long gone. Pete's final
year in the major leagues was eighty six. As a manager,
I think you might have managed your eighty seven or eight.

Speaker 7 (01:10:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think I think you
just gotta okay, just just like Black and White is,
how did you do on the field? As far as
Hall of Fame, we're going to get pure love is Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
Is he going to get there?

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
I don't think so, because I think whatever the whoever
the power is to be, are that decided. Okay, he's dead,
He's not going to get the satisfaction.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Yeah, it's a good angle. You did it again. You
good angle. That's one of the things I was waitning
for people to get into. Last question for you, is
this maybe kind of an f you to Pete Rose
that they waited till he was dead?

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Yeah? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
What kind of pizza you have in Hugh? Margarita Margarita
I'm very familiar with that. Yeah, no, no, that marguerite pepperoni.
It's good pepperoni. It's not Margarita is a vegetarian pizza.
Oh you said Margarita. Margarita is a drake. Hugh, that's
not pizza. Marguerite pepperoni is what my guy Al scally

(01:11:34):
at Dell's. Here Dom de Marco's pizzas. If you ever
order marguerite pepperoni, you're a vegetarian, mostly cool, All right, listen,
let me listen. I always appreciate your calls. Man, get
back to your vegetarian pizza, and I always appreciate it.
Hugh uh Be in Nashville, Sean and Santa Clarita. Paul

(01:11:55):
from Denver will get to you. Mike the Leprechaun. We're
going to get to all you. Please be patient. We'll
get with you and shout out to Pta. I'm a
big backer of pita. That would be people eating tasty animals.
Sorry for that, folks, that's just how I roll. I'm
Bernie Frattle. Come to your line from the Las Vegas
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to
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(01:12:19):
on The Bernie Frattle Show. The midnight hour rolls on
Fox Sports Radio. Props to he on the five for
eating a Margherita pizza, which I confused with Margarita pepperoni.
There is a difference margarita pizza. Actually it's only got
I think red tomato, sauce, white mozzarella, and fresh green basil.
Those are the colors of the Italian flag. It's vegetarian now.

(01:12:40):
Margerita pepperoni is a really tasty pepperoni that's made in
Pennsylvania and served at Dom de Marco's Pizza. Here, my
buddy Al Scalliot, Me crack Man, Jim Feist, all the
dudes hang out.

Speaker 5 (01:12:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I'll just say this, I got a few holes in
my game. Pew knows that all part of the charm
be in Nashville. Welcome into the Bernie Frattle Show. Are you?

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
I'm good man?

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
How you doing good? Thank you sir? You gots.

Speaker 18 (01:13:06):
I just want to speak on I want to talk
about Pete Rose. The guy's name is Charlie Hustle. He's
the all time leader in here. If you're an all
time leader in anything, you're a hall of famer period.
People have gotten hated on for being the all time
anything and not in the hall Brad Bonds Hall of

(01:13:27):
Fame should be. He's not, Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I agree. I agree. I think it's time real quickly.
I'll give you the floor. You had the steroid era,
and now you know the guy pitching the ball was
probably juice and the guy chasing it down with centerfield
bondsys did it better. I've had it. Here's what's happening
now Bee. He's gonna get his chance. There's gonna be
a committee as symbol and eras committee in two years,

(01:13:53):
in December twenty twenty seven to vote in Pete's era.
Do you think he'll get in? I know you believe
he should. Do you think he will?

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Yes?

Speaker 18 (01:14:02):
I think he will. I think he will. I think
people will recognize the greatness. And you know he bet
on the game. But he did make a claim that hey,
I never bet on to lose. That's I mean, come on.

Speaker 5 (01:14:17):
That's that all right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
And anything else to that, big fellow. I just want
to get to all the calls. Anything else you.

Speaker 18 (01:14:22):
Got, yeah, okay, I got you got you, Kaitlyn Clark.
That was a regular foul. That was not a flagrant foul.
I played ball.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
That was a very regular foul.

Speaker 18 (01:14:31):
It wasn't anything like she didn't beat her up, get
her a black guy. No, there was nothing like the eighties,
so that shouldn't be talked about. And as far as
a lot of he goes, it was rigged once upon
a time in my opinion. But nowadays, when when mister
magic Man came on and said he sat in the room,

(01:14:52):
that probably was no guy sitting in the room in
eighty five. But hey, nowadays there people sit in the room.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
It's not rigged.

Speaker 18 (01:15:00):
It's not read.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
B love it, man, I love that final take. Maybe
it was at one time, we'll never know in nineteen
eighty five when they reached into a barrel and there
were a bunch of envelopes and allegedly the New York
Knicks was frozen, so he felt the cold envelope pull
it out. That enable the next to draft Patrick Ewing.
We'll never know, I'm not saying, but we'll never know.
Bryce in Texas, welcome back into the Bernie Fradle Show.

(01:15:23):
They're going tonight, good man.

Speaker 15 (01:15:25):
You good so real quick, I'll sut.

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
Was the Caitlin Clark thing about oh thirty years ago,
there was a girl by the name of Jackie Style
of the East Tide from Missouri State.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
Now I'm from Springfild, Missouri. She's the first woman to
ever score were.

Speaker 11 (01:15:41):
A thousand points in D one and I remember at
that point everybody was like, oh man.

Speaker 8 (01:15:45):
This is what's gonna put the WNBA in the map.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
And here we are thirty years later, still hoping that
the did in the NBA would be on the map.
The foul that was done tonight, we wouldn't even be
talking about this river NBA. So the fact that we're
talking about it is just one more push to try
to make them realll this fight complete, agree and this
is going to stay away. I think the elbow to
the back of Natasha Howard's head as Reese is trying

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to get the rebound was more.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Fair enough, fair enough, and good call on Jackie Styles.
The only thing is she only played like five years
in the league, and I don't think she was really
My thing with the w NBA is I got no
product problem with the product and the floor. But you
lose fifty million every year, okay, so cut the crap.
Anything else for us tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
Bryce, as far as Pete Rose.

Speaker 11 (01:16:33):
I think everybody else said it. It's his play on
the field. I do think he's gonna end up getting in.
I don't think it's going to be first ballot, because
the MLB is going to turn this into a tr
stunt where he's going to get in later it's gonna
be like, oh, well, we love him in anyways, but
not good enough for a first ballot, Like they're going
to try to make as many people happy as possible
by putting it in later on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
You know, you may be right, but we don't know
who the committee's going to be. And I when I
give my commentsary next hour, i'll share with you the
you know who was pulled and people who could be
on the committee anything else.

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
The last thing, I don't think that the NBA lottery
is rigged, but I do believe that people love conspiracy theories.
There's a study done years ago where people were bringing
up tragic events and they'll fill their minds with all
sorts of stories that aren't real. I think that that's
the human effects in everything that's surrounding things that can't
be explained well.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Very well articulated. Thanks Bryce, that was outstanding. What I'm
going to do is Sean from Santa Clarita is going
to be our final call before one am Pacific, But
Paul from Denver, if you hold on the line and
Mike the Leprechaun will get you right on after one
am Pacific four am Eastern, you'd be the final two calls,
and that way no one gets turned away. Sean from

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Santa Claria to welcome and Bernie fradleshow.

Speaker 8 (01:17:53):
Hey, Bernie, I got to tell you. I've been listening
to you for years, but this is the first time
I've been copelled to actually call you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Welcome in.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
I'm gonna start with Peter Rose first.

Speaker 8 (01:18:04):
My opinion is everybody should be eligible for the Hall
of Fame, whether Shoeless, Jo Jackson, Peter Rose, Barry Bonds.
If the Astros can keep their title for cheating, then
I'm sorry, anybody else should be eligible for all same
Let's let's writers decide. You know who didn't want to
let it? Okay, that's first. Now my main reason for

(01:18:27):
calling I'm sorry, Bernie. You know I like you, I
normally agree with you, but when it comes to you, Okay,
let me ask you a question. If tomorrow between OKAC
and Denver. Uh, the game was whatever the final score was.
If somebody called you and said, hey, man, the rests
they set that game up, what would you say, you

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see they're crazy, right, won't wait?

Speaker 5 (01:18:50):
Am I right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
I'd say it's ninety nine percent? You're crazy. We already
had a Tim Donney situation, so I can't get it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
Exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:18:59):
We had a Tim Donnegie situation, and you can't tell
me he's the lone wolf. Anyways, go one to my
point about the lottery.

Speaker 5 (01:19:05):
I'm going to give you a list.

Speaker 8 (01:19:07):
This list, I'm gonna give you every one of these
lot of winners had a less than five percent chance
of winning.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
I'm gonna I already did that at the top part
of the show. Listen your point. I'll tell you what
we'll do, Paul. Uh if excuse me, Sean, if you
can hang on the line, because we're coming up against it.
I got a few seconds and uh, we're gonna pick
this up after the top of the hour. So if
you're willing to wait, I'll give you a little latitude here.
But I don't want to give the whole list because

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people can go on and google it. But you're but
you are on a strong point where you think you're
one of the people who actually thinks there's real merit
to perhaps just being Rick. So let me know if
you hang on the line, we'll come back to you
right after the top of the hour. Sean, Paul, Michael Leprechahn,
and I'm gonna get to my Pete Rose commentary. Keep
it locks the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
You heard the man, the Bernie Frattles Show. Keep roll
it right along. My name is Bernie Frederick. Come you
lyon from the Fox Sports Radio studios and we continue
on with the midnight hour. Let's go back to Sean
in Santa Clarita. Sean, here's the good news. I like
what you said. I disagree with you, Bernie, so state
in your case you don't necessarily have to list all

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the names. I'm familiar with that part of it. But
that's your evidence to make your closing argument. So pick
up where you would have left off there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
Sure, So my point is this is Bernie, that.

Speaker 8 (01:20:30):
If it happens once or twice, okay, you know, defining
the odd but less than a two percent chance, I
get Okay, fine, it happens. But when you talk about
the one time the Spurs are bad in the nineties,
they get Tim Duncan. When you talk about when Lebron
comes out in the drafts, he goes to his hometown Cleveland.

(01:20:51):
When you talk about Derreck Rose comes out, he goes
to his hometown Chicago. When they trade ad the Lakers
two weeks later, Normer did.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Their first pick to get his bye on. When Lebron
goes back.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
To Cleveland, they get the number one pick who they
trade for Kevin Love. When you know, I mean, it's
just over and over and over again, and at some point,
I'm sorry, I gotta believe my eyes, my ears, and
the mass. You know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
You raise an empirical argument. Okay, you have what they
call empirical evidence, but there's no hard evidence that's ever happened.
And I'm not dismissive of your premise. Listen, I've said,
if everybody agrees only one head's doing all the thinking,
this just doesn't pass muster with you. It just doesn't. Unfortunately,
there's no hard evidence to back it up.

Speaker 8 (01:21:43):
No, there will never be hard evidence because that will
never be allowed to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
But in this land we live in do you do
you really believe these conspiracy theories on this grand level exist.
No one can keep a secret in this world.

Speaker 8 (01:21:55):
Look what happened to Tim Donnihe Let me ask you
one question, Bernie, do you really believe that Luca goes
to the Lakers by coincidence? They could have traded Luca
to a bunch of other teams and got way more
in assets than they got from the Lakers, and then
all of a sudden they have a one twenty chance
to get a horpor And I mean it just it

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doesn't add up, It doesn't patter.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
I'm not trying to Yeah, no, no, no, no, no no,
this is stop provoking anything else, Sean.

Speaker 8 (01:22:26):
Yeah, one last thing about Caitlyn Clark and Ingel Reese.
You know, Angele reach. She can dish it out, but
she can't take it. She's the Draymond Green of the WNBA,
and she can give it out, but you know, one
little foul.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
She goes crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:22:38):
But look what she did to Klayton Park last year
multiple times, Okay multiple times, and it's just like, come on, man,
get get over it. She's a great player. Caitlyn Cark's
a great player. You know, I'm not saying you have
to like her, but you know, she scowls you a
little bit hard once. It wasn't even that hart no style.

Speaker 12 (01:22:58):
You know, be better than that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:59):
That's all you gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Thanks, Thanks Man, thanks for checking in. Don't be a stranger,
Paul and Denver, thanks for hanging on. You're you're up?

Speaker 19 (01:23:06):
Hey, how you doing. I called you about George Furman
a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah, Hey, listen, listen,
I'm gonna make it quick. Love the beef lotto, blah
blah blah. I don't know about that women's basketball. I've
tried to watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
I don't like it.

Speaker 19 (01:23:20):
Pete Rose I watched him play live. I didn't like
him because he was kind of an arrogant, you know,
but but Charlie Hussel was one of the one of
a kind, one of the great players. This this idiot
he about telling a guy, and he's dead now because
he gambled. I don't care if it's in the locker
room wherever Loo's what's happening nowadays, it's an apocalypse. We

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get the guy in there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:45):
Come on, what do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Gritty?

Speaker 5 (01:23:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
I appreciate your call up. Anything else, Paul, No, but
that I will give my thoughts here coming up.

Speaker 8 (01:23:55):
If never remember mountain Land, that's how he ran baseball with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
An iron fist. And I feel more badly actually for
shoeless Joe Jackson then I feel for Pete Rose, because, yes,
Pete Rose a lot of decades of self inflicted wounds
that movie.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
And I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Now, Yeah, you know he had a listen, I know
a lot of people, Okay, And I would just say this,
Pede Rose had a real opportunity to cut a deal
back in nineteen eighty nine. But because of his arrogance
and huberts and denials and the Dob report is full
of documented lies, he people became his own worst enemy.
Or he may have gotten in as simple as that.

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All right, we wrapping up with Mike the Leprechaun. Mike
your turn.

Speaker 16 (01:24:39):
Good morning, Ernie Heide, morning Morney. I'm having left over
mushroom pizza by the way, right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Now, as you see fascinating. All right, what do you
think about our topics?

Speaker 16 (01:24:51):
Ben Ben Dollard said you're his favorite visitor, so hexpecting
the visits anyway. Conspiracy theory, I'm a sin of teacher.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:24:59):
Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 16 (01:25:02):
Is a human being.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
He's not perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Do you think you're getting voted in when the Risk
Committee comes up in a couple of years, he.

Speaker 10 (01:25:10):
Will get in.

Speaker 16 (01:25:11):
Eventually.

Speaker 5 (01:25:11):
He's probably in Heaven for sure.

Speaker 16 (01:25:13):
I mean, I don't think they put him to hell
or doing what he did anyway, that's my opinion on
kid Rose. Charlie hot though, right, Okay, Caitlin Knx, let
me tell you my take on her.

Speaker 10 (01:25:27):
I believe the foul was on reas right.

Speaker 16 (01:25:31):
If you watch to play that other girl pushed away
for Caitlin Clark's teammates hard at first, it shouldn't have
been a foul. Then Kit and Talk reached in hard.
It was hard, but it wasn't dirty. It definitely should
not have been a technical.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Yeah, well anything ever so quickly. And if you think
the NBA Draft lottery, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:25:56):
Yeah, it was a I mat teach you one. Then
I think there's some I think fat has obtain this.
They give away Luca for nothing, and the Dallas Mavericks
had a one point chance, and last but not least,
the Celtics fell lives on their face.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Well yeah, I think so. No, one's gonna argue with that.
That right there? All right, thanks, and I want to
thank all the callers for taking the time to call
in some really good stuff tonight. As usual, that's what
we've become accustomed to. People give their opinions, it don't equivocate,
and they get to the point. I appreciate everybody an excellent,

(01:26:36):
excellent job. We had some new callers tonight, good stuff.
Appreciate it. It adds a dimension to the show, and
it adds some texture to the show. And as I've
said a thousand times, you know, the most boring conversations
with everybody agrees. I don't have to agree. By the way,
thanks for slow dive, he texted in, or text excuse me,

(01:26:57):
he tweeted in A piece of pizza. Maybe it's it
looks like it's actually Margarita pizza that's got some tomatoes
and basil and the colors of the flag.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
So there it is.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
I'm just not one of those dudes that eats vegetarian pizza.
Color me weird, I know, maybe not so much. All right,
let's get to the Pete Rose situation. Let's start with,
first of all, what the hell happened this last week
that caused us to talk about this. And what's interesting
is on January eighth, Pete Rose's kids, Fawn and Pete Junior,

(01:27:31):
met with the commissioner to see if Pete could perhaps
be reinstated and taking off the permanently band or you know,
whatever you want to call it. It was basically called
Baseball's permanent band on Pete Rose. All right, and so
Rob Manfred has now lifted that band. Had he not,

(01:27:52):
I was gonna wait till we get to the six
month March July eighth, run the All Star Game and
have this as a topic, say do you think he'll
ever do it? Well, he did it, and here's he
meaning Rob Manfred did it. This was kind of a
stunning move this week Manfred, as you know, he's a
Major League Baseball commissioner. He came out and said Rose
will be reinstated, quote after spending more than thirty years

(01:28:13):
on the permanently ineligible list. Basically, it was a simple
stroke of a pen, but it's got some complex ramifications.
Let me spell this out for you. Number one, This
was kind of a clever move on behalf of Rob Manfred.
And I'm not necessarily a mott Rob Manfred fan. I'm
not a Rob Manfred hater. I think he's sort of

(01:28:34):
an in artful communicator. And as far as the long
line of commissioners go, I'm a little underwhelmed. But under
his watch, you know, we've got the game sped up
and pep, you know, all time attendance. But what he did,
he did not really directly reinstate Pete Rose. But what
Rob Manfred did is alter a rule in which a

(01:28:56):
deceased player can now be removed from the permanently ineligible.
In short, Manfred argued that quote these players could not
harm the game further. Rose died last September at age
eighty three. Rose and sixteen hundred players, including Shoeless Joe Jackson,
were reinstated with the move. There's a list you can
google and find pretty easily. By the way, for what

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it's worth, in the history of the Hall of Fame,
there have been one hundred and thirty seven players inducted posthumously.
So what Minefred did was include Rose among fifteen other
players and say, all right, if you're no longer living,
you can't hurt the game anymore. We're taking you off
the permol in an eligible list. Kind of clever, kind
of takes a little heat offer, right. The timing is

(01:29:38):
a little odd because Rob Manfred, he'd projected Pete Rose's
petitions over and over and over they met in twenty fifteen,
it never looked worse. He'd been trying to get reinstated
while he was alive. Manfred seemed to me that he
was steadfast in his belief, all right, And there was

(01:30:02):
a meeting with President Trump, who would loudly arguet in
social media that Rose should be reinstated. Ken Rosenthal wondered,
what sort of precedent the reinstatement what's set was a
politically motivated I don't know, I don't care it happened.

Speaker 5 (01:30:16):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
This does not mean Rose goes directly into the Hall
of Fame with the other reinstated players. He's going to
be considered by what's called the Historical Overview Committee. They'll
decide if any of the sixteen warrant a hearing. If
sold in the eras Committee, and this is completely separate
from Baseball, will vote on an election to the Hall.

(01:30:37):
Rose and any other person hoping to get in based
on this permanently banned list and of course you've heard
of shootless Joe Jackson. They're going to need at least
twelve with the sixteen votes to get in if this
all happens, If everything goes perfectly. According to Hoyles, the
earliest possible election for Pete Rose is Christmas to twenty

(01:30:58):
twenty seven, which means in July twenty twenty eight. In theory,
Pete Rose could hypothetically be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
So much has to happen between now and then. Okay,
we get it by merits alone. On the field, Rose
two hundred and fifty six hits most in history slam dunk.

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That's the con Pete Rose bet on baseball, which was
his original banishment. He also allegedly did some other unsavory
things off the field, and even did five months in
prison for tax invasion in nineteen ninety. Now the bottom line,
there is some positive sentiment around Rose earning a Hall
of Fame plaque. The longtime writer Jason Stark believes Rose

(01:31:42):
will make the Hall okay, which raises the question, Now,
this is where it gets complicated. How about the Barry
Bonds and the Mark mcguires. You know, the Sammy Sosis,
the Rafael Paul merrows, should they maybe be on the
list next? And there's this is where it really gets.
It's a dicey. Okay. People have spoken on this. The Athletic,

(01:32:04):
which is a fabulous publication, did a poll. Eighteen thousand
people responded fifty three percent No, Rose isn't going to
get inven percent, Yes, he's going to get in.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Then they pulled twelve Hall of famers and very you know,
a lot of them just didn't want to answer. Force
said yes, the couple said no, and the rest punted.
And you can read the answers on the Athletic. You know,
if someone asked me directly, I'm not sure if it
serves any fruitful purpose anymore to keep him out. It's
been thirty six years, he's dead. You can ban him

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on character issues fair enough. That the problem is, there's
other people in the Hall of Fame that have character issues.
Now what's interesting is I'm going to give you these
are the types of names, and you'll remember most of them. Okay,
these are the types of people that are going to
comprise that committee. These are examples. I'm not saying these
are the people. These are examples. Now that Rose has

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been reinstated, Reggie Jackson could be on the committee. He
loves Pete Rose, said no doubt. Reggie believes there are
some steroid users that have stuck patch of the goalie.
He believes Pete Rose the band's over put him in.
Jim Palmer, Okay, he doesn't think Pete Rose will get
in now. Maybe that'll change over time, but now no.

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Mike Schmidt, one of Pete's teammates with the Phillies. Mike
gave kind of equivocating answer, says he can see both sides.
Didn't really answer. Jim Leland, who managed you Tigers, big
love the guy spend a lot of time around him
when the Tiger would cover the Tigers in the early
two thousands. He said, I don't really know the answer.
He punted. Jim Cott pitched in the major leagues twenty

(01:33:47):
six years. Great announcer, great guy. He even had my
radio show once in nineteen ninety six. He didn't really
answer you move on. John Smoltz, he said he would
vote for Pete Rose, Billy Wagner. These are all guys
that are already in the Hall of Fame, all right,
he says, he's glad Pete's getting his chance. You know,
he didn't really he didn't really know Bill Mazeroski obviously,

(01:34:09):
who played for the Pirates, you know, in the Pete
Rose era as it were, from fifty six to seventy two.
He said, yeah, but not right away. I'd make him
wait a little longer. Pat Gillick, the Great GM, the
architect of the Toronto Blue Jays teams that went back
to back World Series in ninety two and ninety three.
He says, based on performance, it's a no brainer. But

(01:34:30):
then again, he just said that's going to be a
tough subject. Andre Dawson, he said, yes, it's long overdue.
Tony Larusa he says, the stats are a little undeniable.
Then he goes on with a lot of words, salad stuff.
Tony Prez and of course Tony Prez was Pete's teammate
in Cincinnati. So there's sixteen he said yes, Ottolo, sixteen,

(01:34:53):
four said yes, two said no. Ten didn't want to answer. Well,
if they didn't want to answer, that's not a yes,
is it, that's not yes. So because of their nineteen
ninety one ruling, the Baseball Writers' Association of America ballot
never had a chance to vote for Pete and it's
too late now for that ballot. That means whatever consideration

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there is, this is how it's set up. All lay
it out really simple. One of the three Era committee ballots.
These used to be called Veterans committees. Our buddy Steve
Hartman knows all this stuff backwards and forwards. He knows
exactly what I'm talking about. Voting rules require that any
candidate on the Baseball Writers of Writers Association of America

(01:35:36):
must have played in the major leagues no more than
fifteen years prior to each election. Well, Rose's candidacy under
that framework has expired. Now he's been removed. Pete Rose
has from Baseball's permanently ineligible list, so now he's eligible
for consideration by the Hall of Fame's Era Committee process.

(01:35:58):
Again used to hear them reins as the Veterans Committee.
There's three Era committee buckets. Won the Classic Baseball Era
that's the one Pete's in. Those are for players whose
primary contributions to the game came before nineteen eighty That
includes Neger Leagues candidates. The second bucket the Contemporary Baseball

(01:36:19):
Era Committee. Those are for players whose contributions came in
nineteen eighty or later. And then there's a third bucket
and has to do with managers, executives, umpires also nineteen
eighty and later. Rose look Rookie of the Year in
seventy three, checked that, sixty three MVP and seventy three
the Big Red Machine. All most of it before nineteen eighty,

(01:36:41):
even though Rose did play through nineteen eighty six. Because
of that, Rose would be part of that first committee.
All right, the Classic Baseball era. They don't vote again
until December of twenty twenty seven. They'll consider any candidates
in that bucket for induction, which wouldn't happen until the
summer of twenty twenty eight. We're not even to the

(01:37:01):
summer of twenty twenty five yet, well we kind of are.
So you're basically looking at it thirty nine months away.
Best case scenario, not can it happened. They've just selected
Dave Parker and Dick Allen. That committee just did the
same thing. So look market calendar. If you think you're
feeling lucky. August sixth, twenty twenty eight, you may see history.

(01:37:22):
All right. The petition was filed Manfred is ruled. Terry Francono,
another great guy managing in the major leagues currently. Former
player says quote, if Pete Rose is not in the
Hall of Fame, then there isn't one you can see.
This is a highly charged subject. You could hear the callers.
Now you know what has to happen. Will it happen?

(01:37:45):
I don't know. Honestly, Tell me who the committee is
and I'll give you a better guess. But I will
tell you this based on what I know and people
I've talked to. I don't think Pete Rose is going
to get voted in in December of twenty twenty seven.
Eventually the Classic Era Committee will meet again and have
a second bite of the apple, I believe, but it

(01:38:07):
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How about Rafael Devers. I don't want to play first base,
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NFL schedule comes out every year, they make a big
deal about it, and we all we're all there for it.
Of course, I happen to notice, like the bizarre things,

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the little quirky things that are within the slate. And
I have a Baker's dozen this year of things that
you know, you tell me if the NFL schedule is rigged,
because how can these things happen?

Speaker 5 (01:40:37):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
For instance, for the fourth straight year, the Bengals visit
Baltimore to face the Ravens in prime time four straight
years now. Bizarrely, every game of this series has played
in Cincinnati during the span. Happens at one one pm
Eastern Time, which is typical typical, you know, part of

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the Sunday slate with eight ten other games, but when
you go to Baltimore, it's always a primetime game. Here's
one for you. Week eight, Miami and two Otaga Lalua
will face Michael Pennix and the Atlanta Falcons. What's the
angle there, Well, they're both left handed quarterbacks. You know,

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there has not been an NFL matchup featuring two starting
NFL quarterbacks since two thousand and six. Two thousand and six.
What the hell just there for you? A little quirky, right?
How about the forty nine Ers. People think they're lucky.
They're the owner of the NFL's easiest strength to schedule.

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They play zero teams coming off of by. Meanwhile, the
Washington Commanders they have to play four teams coming off
of by. The hapless Cowboys will be the first team
ever to have to face four concentative opponents that won
fourteen plus games in the previous season. Starting in Week twelve,

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in a row, they play the Eagles, Lions, Vikings, and Chiefs.
By then, the Cowboys should be well on the Doldrums.
I have zero faith in Dak Prescott. I have zero
faith in the culture of that team. I can't pick
on Mike McCarthy anymore Barney Rode because he's not there anymore.
But you get the picture. Back to the Baltimore Ravens.

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They have kind of a what we call this a
baseball schedule in the NFL. From weeks five to eight
Baltimore is a stretch of three straight contests at home,
but then they go on a three game road trip
before returning to their home M and T Banks Stadium
to play three consecutive home matchups again. So three in

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a row at home, three in a row in the road,
and three in a row at home. Is that intention?
I don't know. The Panthers well, I have a lot
of faith in Bryce Young and he started to show
that that, you know, his is by faith in him
was warranted because he started to play, you know, in

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a way that was befitting of what I believed his
potential was. In all seriousness. So that doesn't mean necessarily
that the there's good times ahead for the Panthers. I
don't know if they're going to the Super Bowl. They
opened up against Jacksonville. But here's the funny thing. It's
the third time ever that the team who plays Jacksonville

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in Week one, and the Panthers reached the previous two
go rounds in three. Remember that great Super Bowl when
Jake Delom dueled Tom Brady in Houston and then twenty
fifteen when Cam Newton they got smacked by the by
the Denver Broncos. But this is the third time in

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Carolina's history they've opened up against Jacksonville the year first
two times they made the Super Bowl. That I know,
it's a little bit of a stretch. I get it. Minnesota.
How about the Vikings, they'll be uh, they'll be you know,
touring Europe this year. They'll be the first ever NFL
team to make consecutive international appearances back to back weeks.

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That's the department of redundancy department in different countries. See
the Vikings have road matchups against the Steelers in Ireland
and then the following week against the Cleveland Browns in England. London.
The Vikings are actually four to zero in London games.
The good news is they get to play Pittsburgh in Ireland.

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They don't have to play them in Pittsburgh, where they're
zero to three the Saints. Speaking of no primetime appearances,
the Saints got shut out from the primetime slate for
the first time in twenty five years. And the reason
I brought that episode that's at the top of the
show cam Ward. I like cam Ward. I really want

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to see what he can do in the NFL. The
first overall pick. We'll have to look hard to find him.
I got the NFL tickets. I'll see him. But the
Tennessee TEGs will have a single primetime game this year.
You think they have at least won with a number
one overall pick, but they don't. Back to Dallas first
team ever. They have four Thursday games the Cowboys. Remember

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the opposite of love is not hate. It's in difference.
People love to hate watch the Cowboys. That's just a fact.
This includes a season opener against the Eagles on Thursday night,
then they got to go against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving,
and then you got the Detroit Lions, which will be
a Thursday game, not on Thanksgiving, and then they play

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on Christmas Day. It's part of a triple header against
the Washington Commanders. I'm gonna go on on a limb
and say Dallas goes zero to four in those games.
I don't think I'm that far off. How about the Eagles.
No love for the Super Bowl champs. Somehow they don't
have back to back home games the entire year, but
their schedule features multiple consecutive road contests. However, this is

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the real interesting about the Eagles. You're gonna get lots
of opportunities to see them. They're all over the calendar.
The Eagles will play NFL football games on five different
days of the week coming up this season. They'll play
a Sunday game, a Monday night game, a Thursday game,
they're going to play on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving,

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and they'll play a Saturday game on Week sixteen. So
give it up to the Eagles and Eagles fans. By
the way, the schedule also features five situations in which
division rivals face off twice in a three week span.
This is kind of interesting. The Giants and Eagles will
play in Week six and Week eight. The Ravens and

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Bengals week thirteen and week fifteen, Packers and Bears Week
fourteen and sixteen, Bucks and Panthers Week sixteen and eighteen.
And this is this could be really interesting. Commanders and
Eagles week sixteen and eighteen. Think about that that week eighteen,
the Commanders and Eagles. I think the Commanders would be
really good. And I also be Deals gonna be really
good again this year as well. So those two knuckleheads
could be you know, week sixteen and eighteen, that those

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could be you know, games having a lot on the line,
you know. So look, it's always a lot of fun
when the schedule comes out. We start off the season
with a bang Eagles, Cowboys and a Thursday night opener.
It's kind of an appetizer. It's my belief that the

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NFL was not as happy with It's it's my understanding.
I've been told by people smarter to me that the
NFL was not one hundred percent happy with the ratings
they got last year, and so therefore they wanted to
front load some of these games to you know, get
a you know, hit the ground running with the ratings
this year, and so you got a primetime matchup Eagles

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Cowboys Thursday Night. You know that's come on everybody's you're
coming off the six month hiatus. Everybody loves that Thursday
Night open. It always features the Super Bowl defending champs
and the Cowboys. It should be something to see. And
it's a divisional game, divisional game, so if you folks,
there are several divisional games by the way week one
and that's a store sorry for a different day. I

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was talking to my buddy Jason McIntyre right before the season.
I'm going on as podcast. If you bet the Dogs
week one and divisional games, you've done quite well over
the last eight years. But there's a lot of other
good matchups. The first weekend, the Chargers got to play
the Chiefs. That's on a Friday night in Brazil. The
Ravens will get an immediate opportunity for playoff redemption. They're

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playing the Bills on Sunday night. WHOA and then Ben
Johnson and then Luke Bears. They're going to be immediately
put to the test. They host the Vikings on Monday night.
But it's not just primetime games. Lions Packers Week one,
that'll be a big time draw off A Sunday afternoon slate,
and there's also some less obvious games. So if I

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had a nickel for every radio host this week said, ooh,
lose move. Well, they scheduled the Jets and Steelers Week one.
The Steelers, I think most people still feel are going
to get Aaron Rodgers if we spill past June tenth,
which is when you start to have the mandatory uh
you know, mini camps. If Rogers isn't on the team,

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then he's not doing anybody any favors. And that's coming up.
All right, Today's May eighteenth, so you got another three
three weeks in two days. It feels like, look, I
don't know anything. I really don't. There's some kind of
handshake agreement, but it would be juicy for Pittsburgh to
go into New York Aaron Rodgers a quarterback for the

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Steelers and guests, he's a quarterback for the Jets, justin
field from the Steelers. You tell me that that game
doesn't have some interest. By the way, the Patriots kick
off the Mike Grabel Area at home against the Raiders.
Maybe there'll be another tuck rule game. And by the way,
we don't know where Tom Brady will be in the
broadcast booth. But Vegas, you know, you know, opening up

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in New England when you know they just reshaped the
whole team. They got rid of, you know, Josh McDaniel
years ago, you got Pete Carolyn. Look, Week one is
really is really going to be start with a band
cam One. Can't excuse me, cam One. Cam Ward is
gonna have a real tough draw to start his NFL career.
He's got to go up against Sean Payton's Broncos defense

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on that unit only got better this offseason. They were
number one in defensive EPA play last year and they
added to it, right, they got a couple of X
forty nine ers, Dre Greenlaw, Talino, Hufnaga. Look, Broncos are
gonna be good. They're they're on the upswing last last
year and they're gonna continue to be good. So if
you look at the Week one there's a lot of

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juicy matchups there with big time storylines including By the way,
now you jumped to week two, As I said, it
was front loaded, guess what you got a Super Bowl rematch.
Week two, the Chiefs will host the Eagles. It'll be
a late afternoon game. Won't be a primetime affair. But
the Eagles have lost some key defensive pieces. But you
know how he rose, how he always manages to draft well, Philadelphia,

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if you look at their roster and you're being objective
and honest, they still have the most talented roster in football.
They just simply do well.

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
You know, coming back after a Super Bowl win is
not easy. The New York Giants, no one did them
any favors. I like Brian Dable, I don't know Joe Shane.
Heading into the season, they've been terrible. We both know
darn well that they're on the block. I never call
for anybody's job, but they're on the block. And New

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York has an incredibly difficult schedule. Now they open up
at Washington and then at Dallas. Now I have no
faith in Dallas, but the New York Giants, they're not
a lock against anybody. But then after that, you got
the Chiefs Chargers, the Eagles in the Week six, the
Broncos in Week seven, the Eagles again a week eight,
and then you got the Niners, Bears in Green Bay,

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and then the Lions. Okay, the first twelve weeks, the
Giants are gonna have to really surprise us to tell
me you're not going to be something like you know,
four and eight. In those first you don't get a week,
you don't get a bye to a week fourteen. I
will continue on with the rest of what I consider

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to be some very interesting schedule observations. As the NFL
has frontloaded the schedule and started off with a bang.
We'll get to that coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle, come
to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Keep it locked. It's the Bernie Fridle Show on Fox
Sports Radio. We're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox
Sports Radio, coming live from the studios here in Las Vegas.

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At about thirteen minutes, we'll have Jeff tauson on from
Boston to talk about the Celtics collapse. They got rode
like a stick horse by the New York Knicks. We'll
see what's next. They have a real law I think,
a real uh uh you know situation where they've got
some choices to make. Some of our choices is uh ash.

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Mark Mondina said back in our in our first hour,
so we've talked about a lot of the goofy quirks
and how the the schedule was really front loaded, and uh,
I think the NFL was concerned a little bit that
the ratings, believe it or not, the TV ratings weren't
quite as high last year as they wanted to be.

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So they want to come out of the gate with
the bang, and that's exactly what they're doing. If you
listen to some of these matchups. Some other observations. Look,
everybody was talking about last year, no one wants to
play the Bengals. Well, they didn't even make the playoffs
and became one of those group think echo chamber of narratives.
Because they finally started to play well the last three

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or four games of the season. Joe Burrow had his
best year ever. That's that's not debatable, but the defense
took forever to round out. And the truth of the
matter is, I think Zach Taylor is a good coach.
He got into the Super Bowl. But the Bengals have
been notoriously slow starters in the Zach Taylor era. In

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the first two weeks of the season, total of twelve
games in the last six years, they're one on eleven,
one on eleven and their only win was four years ago.
They beat the Vikings in overtime, and that was before
the Vikings really got good. So, you know, feel free
to get out of the blocks a little sooner. Cincinnati. Well,

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here's what's interesting. Perhaps the NFL has given them an
assist because the Bengals kick off the Whether or not
people really were afraid to play the Bengals during the
playoffs last year, if they would have made it is debatable.
I don't know, but you don't want, you know, Joe
Burrow is always going to be a tough out. So
kicking off this year, guess what the Bengals get the

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Browns and the Jaguars. That should give Cincinnati every opportunity
to reverse that trend to the last six years were
they're one to eleven in the first two games their
last year though, but again there's no locks. Okay, remember
what the Bengals did last year in their season opener.
They lost to a New England Patriots team. They might

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have struggled to beat Ohio State, and interestingly enough, that loss,
despite a hot finish, might have been the difference in
the Bengals missing out on the playoffs, missed by one game.
You can't win the Super Bowl in September but you
can lose one. So here's the deal. Though there's no
rest for the wicked the Bengals, let's sag just for

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the hell of it, for purposes of this conversation. The
Bengals get out of the gate two and zero. Their
next four games come against the Vikings, the Broncos, the Lions,
and Packers, and three of those four are on the road.
So what's Zach Taylor's going to be a record gonna

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be after Week six? Yes, if his record is five
hundred or less on week six, I think he's put
himself on the extreme hot seat.

Speaker 14 (01:56:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Thanksgiving is a staple for the NFL. It's been for forever,
but it's been kind of on a cold streak these
past few years when scheduling Thanksgiving games, even if you
had good ones. You know, the Saints got blown out
by the Bills in twenty twenty one, and that was
you know, pre Jaden Daniels. Commanders barely put up a

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fight in Dallas in twenty twenty three. The Giants had
no business on the stage that year. So you can
blame the NFL for forcing the nation to eat their
turkey and have trouble. Didjusting it by watching Matt Eberflus
the historically and that clock management in twenty twenty four.
I know you've already forgotten that what happened in Detroit
last year. I'm sure the Bears want to forget it too.

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Matt Flueberflus is no longer there, so look, anything can happen.
And I know that the great Jim Brown used to
say there is no such thing as an easy schedule.
This is a gauntlet. He's right. I covered the Lions
for ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:57:09):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
These guys are trained killers, are all good. But when
the team's under five hundred, or well under five hundred,
they've got years off making the playoffs. They might be
a little less of a tough out than a team
that's perennially good. But for instance, you can presume Thanksgiving
this year is going to be a hell of a
lot more fun to watch. You got the Packers and Lions.

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They'll kick off. It starts as early as nine thirty
am out here in Pacific times and where I live.
Pretty good way to start.

Speaker 6 (01:57:39):
The gay day.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Then you got Chiefs Cowboys. That's a marquee matchup. If
the Cowboys suck, you'll still watch them you'll hate you know,
the hate watchers will watch them, but if they're good
for some reason, couly you get you have Pack mcgolman
the Chiefs. Then you got the Bengals and Ravens. That's
always a fireworks game on the evening game, which will
kick off five so Pacific time, eight pm Eastern. Then

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you get the Bears and Eagles on Black Friday. Tell
me that's not going to be a good game. We
all want to know what Ben Johnson can do with
Caleb Williams, and Bears have short up their offensive line.
And I'm watching this because I know Ben Johnson's kind
of a hard ass coach. I'm curious how Caleb, you know,
Williams is gonna handle that. Cowboys getting some Christmas Day
love as well. That's a little bit much for the

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average fan to stomach, but you know they're going to
play against a fun team and the Commanders in it's
a divisional game. Then you got the Lions Vikings as
part of that Christmas Day triple header, and the Broncos
Chiefs in the nightcap. So the holiday schedule this year,
presumably presumably should be a lot better, Okay, and we'll

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have to see, so got to get on the field.
Hopefully teams aren't injured all that kind of stuff. But look,
we all love standalone games. The beauty of it is
late night Monday night games. For the first time since
twenty twenty two, of the four Monday night double headers
on the schedule, we have kickoffs at seven pm Eastern times.
We had ten pm Eastern time, so that's four and
seven Pacific Chargers Raiders in that extra late spot. Week two.

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Texan Seahawks get in Week seven. There's other doubleheaders coming
up on Monday night football. But hey, standalone, everybody wants
more football, not less football. We're just getting the you know,
we're kind of scratching the surf. We'll have a lot
more of the NFL schedule takeaways probably in next week's show,
but there's enough to get you started coming up. Look,

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we saw the Boston Celtics get poll axe ridden like
a stickhorse. What's next. We'll go out to Boston. Our
guy Jeff Dustin joins us. Keep it locked. You're listening
to the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Yep, you heard the man, Bernie Fradles show keeps rolling
right along. My name is Bernie Fraannlewer. Come to you
lying from the Fox Sports Radio Las Vegas Studios. We'll
take after three am Pacific, six am Eastern. Let's take
you out to Boston. We're joined by a gentleman. You've
heard them many times on this show. Boston very much
in the news given to the somewhat unceremonious way they

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exited the NBA playoffs. Say hello to Jeff Thouston. Hey, Jeff,
really appreciate you making time. I know you're traveling, and
had Boston not been ridden like a stick horse so
badly by the Knicks, we probably could have put this off.
But thanks for coming on.

Speaker 10 (02:00:18):
Well, we're lines from Columbia, South Carolina, about eight minutes
right now from the Gamecock Stadium, so I'm always a
poisure to be on. The first time I've been near
that stadium is gignormous. I'd love to get back for
a game, but yeah, glad to be here to talk

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to some Celtics with you good stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
I've actually been by the stadium. The road drives right
by it. On that one side of the statement's right
up against the road, so let's dive into this, Jeff.
The real question is when you know what's next for
the Celtics. And here's why people want to know, because
two weeks ago they were considered the favorites to win it,
and even if they didn't this year, they're poised for
twenty twenty six. Now you got Jalen Brown, got them aniscus. Okay,

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he'll come back from that. They're really gonna miss Jason
Tatum and I'm already hearing potential trade roads. But Boston's
and Sarry cap Hell, what do you expect him to
do here in the offseason.

Speaker 10 (02:01:14):
Yeah, the real hard point is they sold the team.
Here's a team that won the championship last year, were
paid everyone. We're talking Derek White, we're talking Porzingis Holiday.

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Of course the supermaxis with Tatum and Brown, so they
are in that second tier luxury tax. So going into
next year, between the payroll and the luxury tax, you're
talking a team that over five hundred million dollars will
be over between payroll and now luxury tax. So you

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have a gentleman and the purchases of the team or
a group that paid six billion dollars, they don't own
the build in Bernie, and now we knew there was
going to be some moves this year coming up with
the payroll now not Tatum, most likely for the full year,

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Jalen Brown with a meniscus. So I guess you have
to look at it two ways, Bernie, from a fans
perspective and something that most people don't want to talk about,
from a true business perspective. The window has closed this team,
so if you take it from a business standpoint, it

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could be a great time for a quick reset. The
problem is their biggest chip is Jalen Brown torn meniscus. Now,
I don't know how that would slow that process down
if they go to the extreme burning.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
Jeff, I'm glad you brought up the fact I did
this on an opening monologue, that the Celtics have been
sold and the lead owner of White Grouseback, who's been
there I think twenty five years. Here's what I find weird.
He's going to remain off for three more years to
serve as governor and CEO. So he's on his way out,
got one foot out the door selling the team, but
he's still going to have input on roster moves, right, Yeah, So.

Speaker 10 (02:03:21):
The way I understand it. There was Wick, and there
was Wick's dad to own the team, and the Sun
was the one writing these checks almost like in daddy's pocket.

Speaker 5 (02:03:33):
Here, and Dad got to look at what was going
on and he's like.

Speaker 10 (02:03:37):
Sudden, enough's enough. We won the title. What's selling this team?
He saw the opportunity, so they brought Wick on, I think,
which was a part of the sale as Hey, I'm
going to remain on for the next couple of years
because everyone was paid Bernie. So the thought was, you know,
you won the championship last year, the other favorites.

Speaker 5 (02:03:58):
Going in this year, you had the two young guys.

Speaker 10 (02:04:03):
With Tatum and Brown already paid. So let's see how
far we can ride out our dynamic duo, and we'll
fill the pieces in and we will cut the sal
the payroll check for the luxury text.

Speaker 4 (02:04:17):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (02:04:19):
So we're joined by Jeff Dawson CI and Boston's our
Boston Insider. So here's one potential trade I'm hearing because
it appears to me that the Celtics need a center,
but they're going to trade Krista Forzingis, or they're considered
trading Porsingis possibly to Atlanta. Your thoughts is, is Kristap's gone.

Speaker 10 (02:04:45):
I think if they had it their way, Porzingis and
Holiday would be gone.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
He was next, He was my next name on the list.

Speaker 5 (02:04:54):
Go ahead.

Speaker 10 (02:04:56):
Yes, those two would definitely be gone. I think fifty
to fifty, maybe even sixty forty at least that there's
a good possibility that Horford retires as well, so you
could have three starters gone from this roster with Porzingis,
Holiday and Horford retirement. So you didn't get a good

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look at Porzingis, especially down the stretch of the playoffs.
He's dealing with a virus issue. Hopefully they get that
taking care of sooner than later. Big contract, big money.
But if they could get out of Porzingis in Holiday's
contract while keeping Brown and Derek White, then I would

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definitely sign up for that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Burning Well, the thing if they moved through Holiday, they
saved ninety seven million in the next three years, and
he's a good defender, so he should attract some interest.
But with his new apron situation, you know they did
the salary cap as it were in the NBA, that's
going to be a tough nut. But you just mentioned
Derek White because that's the third that's the third name

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I'm hearing now we're seeing it's on holiday. They're obvious
trade candidates because they're expensive and their age and their
medical histories and it's you got some issues there. But
do you dare explore a Derek White trade? Okay, he
does turn thirty two and you could get some value back.
And I'm hearing that there may be interest between the

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Mavericks and the Celtics. Is that just a WHOI or
is there some merit to that?

Speaker 6 (02:06:32):
Well?

Speaker 8 (02:06:33):
I think there's some hooey to it.

Speaker 10 (02:06:36):
The problem is this, what do you sell your fan base?
It's in other words, Derek White's the one player that
I think has still some upside, some value to the team.
So notatum, Let's just play the game. No, prazingis a holiday.
So you have a start in lineup of hopefully Jalen

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Brown and Derek White with Pritchard and then you put
the rest of the pieces together. Derek I would have
to say that he's the one that get the most
interest in the NBA Bernie versus the other two. With
porzingis and holiday and especially with their salary, I think

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it's a tough not to sell two owners moving forward.
That's why I've said for a while now Bernie, Jalen Brown,
he's under a big superman contract. But e MA and Houston,
they're looking for that one big star. And I've said

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now for a while on your show, on my show,
he potentially could be looking to be that autphit. He's
always wanted his own team. It's always been Jason's team.
Yet last year, Jalen Brown wins the Eastern Conference MVP

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and he also wins the NBA Finals MVP. But now
being hurt, I don't know how that would even slow
that process.

Speaker 2 (02:08:12):
Established Well, all right, let's talk about the elephant in
the room. The Celtics are going to badly miss Jason
Tatum next year, and they go, It's funny how things
change on a dime, Jeff, because this is a group
that won the championship and they brought their entire rotation
back all of a sudden boom. This year is not

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only in the dumps, next year very well could be.
How do you think about possibly you don't replace Jason Tatium,
how do you replace his production to the point where
the Celtics can be a playoff contender next year?

Speaker 10 (02:08:50):
It's they lived and died by the three. They have
an offense where everyone on the court, for the most part,
can shoot the three. So it depends on how many
of these pieces are gone in And Brad Steven has
been an amazing gentleman upstairs. He has made some real

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great trades. He has an eye for talent. You're not
going to be able to replace Tatum, but Brown, if
healthy and still on the team, can Basically, I would say,
picked up to the slack. He's the leader, he's the voice.

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You got Prichard, it would be interesting. You've got Derek White,
So you have three pieces there moving forward of your
starting rotation that I think will be good. Bernie. I
think what's going to happen in this offseason is you're
going to hear more and more Missoula talk. He fell

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really thoroughly got out coached by Timms, you know, to
the point where you know he doesn't run an offense.
It's all threes in Game one, uh No, in Game
two when they blew the twenty point, he doesn't even
call the time out, runs the same play again. I
think you're going to hear a lot of rumblings back here, Bernie,

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Missoula and even uh.

Speaker 5 (02:10:22):
Yeah, I I yes, I think he's still one. If
anyone that.

Speaker 10 (02:10:28):
Fell on the sword in this offseason, I wouldn't be shocked.

Speaker 8 (02:10:32):
Would be Brazil.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
All right, last thing, Jeff, and I'll let you run. Uh.
It's been a real topsy turvy few months for Rafael Devers.
First he got ticked when the club asked him to
move from third base to DH when they brought an
Alex Bregman. And then now he's playing d H. And
then he was getting comfortable in his new role. And
your first base who is a Tristan Casas?

Speaker 5 (02:10:53):
Is that his name? Uh?

Speaker 10 (02:10:55):
First basely Cats twisting Kansas.

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
Yes, So he got hurt and and then you know,
Dev says, hell, I'm not playing first base, and that
made national news. I guess the owner or John Henry
had to fly to Kansas City and speak with him.
But then Devors s it's his first walk off career
home run Saturday night to break the Socks four game
losing streak. What's going on with the Rafael Devers saga

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in Boston.

Speaker 10 (02:11:21):
Party? That is the million dollar question. We bring bregmant
in in the spring as soon as he lands up
at camp Raffie leaves for a few days, very salty,
very upset that they have brought in pregnant to take
third base. Korra was able to sue the situation, you're

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a full time DH, put your glove away. We have
both corners covered, and he finally warmed up to it.
He started the season like hope for nineteen with like
thirteen strikeouts, but he caught his groove. Now Cassas goes down,
and now we don't have a first basement. So the

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assumption very quickly is, well, Raffie, we need you to
grab your glove again, and we need you to start
taking grab ball to get acclimated to first. No, that
didn't go over well there, so Kristin Campbell was taken
to my work at first. The last couple of days here,

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I think more of the situation, Bernie, is what's going
on with Cora and Breslow. Because it wasn't Coorra trying
to take care of the situation. They had to fly
upper management in to Kansas City, So I think Cora
kind of washed his hands clean and today, guys, I

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dealt with this during the spring here. I'm not going
back to RAFFI and say it. By the way, grab
your glove.

Speaker 6 (02:12:50):
We need you at first.

Speaker 10 (02:12:51):
If you want him at first, you guys fly into
Kansas City. Because I'm not taking care of this one.

Speaker 2 (02:12:57):
It's it's a circus. It's just not good. It's just
not good. It really starts to chip away. Hey, Jeff,
I want to get you on again before too long,
because there are other subject matters we want to tap
into your expertise, of course, as well as your knowledge
in sports betting. So enjoy your time in South Carolina.
I appreciate you making time to jump on with us

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this morning.

Speaker 10 (02:13:20):
Well, Bertie, I tell you, with the demise of the
Boston teams, I'll just tell you this, the buzz now
is not only in The Patriots are ten plus.

Speaker 5 (02:13:29):
Win this year.

Speaker 10 (02:13:31):
I think by the time we get back on, you're
going to hear that their cold favorites to win the
East against the Bills. So I'll be ready.

Speaker 2 (02:13:40):
Well, and that's all going to depend I know they've
showed up the defense, and I don't know if Mike
Vrabel's a miracle worker, they should be better. It's all
going to be predicated on Drake May and can Drake
May take that quantum leap upward. He had pretty good
year last year. You believe Drake May can take that
quantum leap upward.

Speaker 7 (02:13:58):
I do.

Speaker 10 (02:13:59):
And with Rabel, they brought Josh McDaniels back, brought in
a veteran leader, a leader at wide receiver with Stefan Diggs.
Everyone is buying in.

Speaker 2 (02:14:09):
That's what worries me though. He talked his way out
of Minnesota, then talked as with go ahead, you got
the floor. I'm not a Stephan Diggs gap.

Speaker 10 (02:14:17):
Neither am I neither is my As you said, talked
his way out of Minnesota, had a couple of great
years with Buffalo. Then you could see the writing off.

Speaker 2 (02:14:26):
They didn't exactly miss him this year, did they Buffalo?

Speaker 10 (02:14:31):
All the all the so called experts to got Buffalo
finally winning the championship this year. Then he goes to
Houston and I never understood that move gets hurt there.
So we needed him. We needed a veteran leader at
wide receiver. So he's coming around good or well, I
should say. But they spent all the money on free

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agency on the defensive side. They drafted trevy On Henderson
out of Ohio State. They got Will Campbell, They drafted
a wide receiver. They're looking the buzz is there? Well,
we needed here.

Speaker 8 (02:15:04):
Because we have no buzz.

Speaker 10 (02:15:05):
So they've gone right to the top and all the
pieces are in place for an exciting year. But the problem,
I will tell everyone is to pump the brakes here.
They've won five home games in the last three years.

Speaker 4 (02:15:19):
Bernie.

Speaker 10 (02:15:22):
Yeah, everyone's got them going seven and one at home
this year, the easiest schedule, So it's kind of comical.
I would say, don't drink the kool aid so fast,
but you and I will be coming back and forth there.
I'll pull my nose to the grindstone.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
Well, and you open up against the Raiders week one?
You making that a W? You consider that to be
a W.

Speaker 10 (02:15:42):
I think I've seen a three point favorite. So the
media hype is TB twelve, Tom Part owner of the
Raiders versus Mike Rabo and Drake May. So that's going
to be must watch TV. I'll give them a twenty
four to twenty When how's that to.

Speaker 6 (02:16:01):
Start the year.

Speaker 2 (02:16:02):
All right, there you go, Jeff, We're gonna get you
out again real soon. Joy your rest of.

Speaker 10 (02:16:04):
Your day, pal, All right, you take tank you Berning.

Speaker 2 (02:16:08):
Jeff Dawson e ci our Boston insider. As you can
see very much finger on the pulse, and of course
you couldn't tell you from Boston at all with that accent.

Speaker 5 (02:16:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
Couple quick things, A couple of bits of business. I
always find this interesting. The thirty two NFL teams will
fly at total of six hundred and twenty six mile
one thousand miles this year. That's an average in nineteen
thousand four team, Well, they didn't do the Chargers any favors.
They're traveling thirty seven thousand miles this year thirty seven

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o eighty six exact, more than any other team. The
team in the least amount of travel your Cincinnati Bengals
only eighty seven hundred. I heard someone on the raider
say that doesn't really matter, Like, no, it doesn't if
you're not the one that has to do it. I
think it absolutely matters. Every little bit matters. By the way,
we had we had a very lively Hall of Fame talk.

(02:17:00):
James Deer tweets in there should be Bernie, there should
be a separate wing of the Hall of Fame for
all the players. Will sketch you behavior off the field,
this w end, this never any debate about McGuire, Sosa,
bonds Rose. They are definitely huge parts of our great
national pastime. You're not wrong, and I've heard that suggested
as well, from the standpoint of you put Rose in

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and then you have a giant narrative plaque above listing
his indiscretions as sort of a footnote. I don't know.
I don't think the Hall is never going to do that,
but look, things evolve, right, things evolve in the world.
He used to fight wars with a single shot rifle.
By the way, you can stream this show and all
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(02:18:07):
news again. I thought they were eliminated from the playoffs.
Well they were, but that doesn't prevent Draymond Green from
being back in the news and he might be fifty
thousand dollars later in the wallet. Why, I'll tell you why.
I'm Bernie Frattle. We're company live from the Las Vegas
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Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
You're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio
Comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.
A couple of other bits of business. Hey, we're a
little over ten hours away from what promises to be
a very intriguing Game seven, because there are four storylines

(02:19:01):
that absolutely catch my eye. First of all, the MVP
showdown between Jokic and SGA. The league hasn't awarded the
most cherished individual trophy yet, but look, and they won't
do it till probably before the NBA Finals. But both
of these guys, this is a bit of a referendum.
I love jok I don't know how much Gas. Him

(02:19:23):
and Jamal Murray are gonna havehi the tank in the
fourth quarter. The other thing that's concerning to me if
you're a Nuggets fan, because if it's fabulous, Aaron Gordon's
left hamstring is gonna be a problem. These things Linger,
He's gonna get on the floor. He's gonna give it
a go. His worth to the Nuggets is tremendous. He's
got an ability to close games. He's a great defender.

(02:19:45):
The Nuggets don't have anywhere near the depth that ok has.
They gotta play the game on the road. If Gordon can't,
player is limited. I'm concerned this may not be the
good game we want, but we'll see. Okay. Russell Westbrook
has a last chance for redemption. They've left him open
all and he's he's not been good. He was good
against the Lakers or checked that, yeah, well not against

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the Lakers. He was good in the previous series, but
not good in this series. He's back in Oklahoma City
where he actually won an MVP, but they've left him
open and dared him to shoot, and he's been not good.
The thunder have really disrespected him. They left him wide open.
They're begging him to shoot. And then what is Rushbrook drew?

(02:20:26):
He usually accommodates. He's got a motor, he's got energy.
But you know Rostbrook, he'll dribble off his foot when
it matters most finely. Okay, see his depth. There's a
reason they won sixty eight games. They go ten deep.
We'll see. This is for all the marvels quantum physics.
Check in here, Draymond Dreen find fifty dollars. Why well,

(02:20:47):
he questioned the integrity of the game, according to the NBA,
by referring to the point spread with fifteen seconds to go,
the Warriors were trailing by eight. The point spread was
five and a half, but the hit a three in
their final possession and covered the spread as a dog.
Green was of course not on the floor at the time.
He'd follow out of the contest. But the NBA's assertion

(02:21:09):
was that Green was calling the integrity the game in
the question by implying the officiating was trying to ensure
Golden State did not cover all that levable dry ground. Green,
he just never shuts up. What's interesting is this plays
into earlier discussion where people were up in arms about
the NBA lottery and whether or not in fact it
was rigged. I made my perry Mason case that it's not.

(02:21:29):
But back to Draymond Green, he always thinks people have
it in for him. He'll probably see his further evidence
the league is singling him out. Well we'll see, we'll see,
but he's fifty grand lighter in the wallet and we'll
see you next year. Draham on will we cover all
the sports here? We talked a lot of football tonight
with the new schedule, but we also talked the international

(02:21:52):
version of football futbol we referred to as soccer. It
is time Chris Perfett's World of.

Speaker 3 (02:22:01):
The Greatest Goals, the thrilling finishes the international drum. It's
all here in this report from the World of Soccer. Well,
don't call it a relic just yet.

Speaker 21 (02:22:23):
The FA Cup has been one of those tournaments in
England that has come under a lot of fire in
recent years. It's a very old open cup format and
it has a lot of romance about it. It is,
of course the tournament where every team across England is
invited to participate, from every level, every level on down

(02:22:43):
through all of the EFL up to the Premier League itself.

Speaker 1 (02:22:47):
It pits as an open Cup.

Speaker 21 (02:22:48):
It pits plenty of small teams against big teams, but
in recent years it's had a lot of scrutiny because
for a lot of those big teams isn't really worth
their time. The prestige of winning the f Cup has
been something that has really fallen and a lot of
big clubs you see from the Premier League simply don't
send their best squads anymore, preferring to focus on European

(02:23:10):
football or on winning the Premier League title itself. But
that wasn't true of Manchester City and Crystal Palace who
Manchester City had needed some pride and Crystal Palace.

Speaker 2 (02:23:22):
Is one of those teams who is going to finish
in the.

Speaker 1 (02:23:24):
Dead middle of the table.

Speaker 21 (02:23:27):
And if you're writing about the demise of the FA Cup,
you really can't tell it to Crystal Palace. Crystal Palace
will be celebrating its one hundred and twentieth year of
being a club in September and they are now lifting
their first ever major trophy with a defeat of Manchester
City one nil at Wembley Stadium on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (02:23:49):
The Eagles are a team I've really kept my eye
on for a long time.

Speaker 21 (02:23:53):
They are they came up back in twenty thirteen promoted
to the Premier League. Inspite of being a founding member
and the recent iteration of Crystal Palace has been a
team that I've watched every preseason for the Premier League,
thinking these guys can really do some damage. They're built
the right way. They're not built like like some of
the clubs that come up and really start to spend much.

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They're a club that has really focused on roster construction
over everything. It's not really put itself out there very
well in domestic play, but in the FA Cup they
have their first major title, and they will be playing
in Europe in the Europa League, the second flight of
European football, next season as well. It will be a

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chance to really put Crystal Palace on the map at
that point, and I'm sure they will want to continue
to build upon this because I see great things in
the future for Crystal Palace. Now, let's talk a little
bit about Manchester City The Loser's Locker Room, which I
should have started with if you believe in Ben Maller,
but I just found Palace that kind of a compelling story.

(02:24:55):
Let's talk about what happened with Earling Holland, who a
lot of really concern happening here. Man City was awarded
a penalty following Tyrek Mischel's challenge on Bernardo Silva and
it was originally going to be Earling Holland. You'd expect
the best score from Manchester City to take that kick,
and instead, apparently according to manager Pep Guardiola, it was

(02:25:17):
decided on the pitch that instead of Earling Holland it
would be Ormar mar Musch who would step up and
take it. It ended up being a save by Palace
keeper Dean Henderson and it's really brought a lot of
questions onto why Earling Holland decided not to take to kick.
It was never really explained by Guardiola. It was just
said that it was decided on the pitch. Earling Holland

(02:25:38):
has failed to register a goal or an assist in
any of the four finals he's played in for Manchester City.
That's three FA Cups and one Champions League final and
it was yes a FA Cup loss for Manchester City
last year as well to cross time rivals Manchester United.
The pressure is on man City. They have two chances
before next Sunday to get ahead of a log jam

(02:26:01):
in the Premier League. For at least fifth place to
be in the Champions League next year. That held born
Mouth on Tuesday, Fulham on Sunday, and I'm sure both
would dearly like to knock me In City down a peg.
City probably needs at least three points if it wants
to keep level with some of the other clubs looking
to get into into the Champions League. Finally, Bernie, we
talked a lot about El Classico last weekend. It was

(02:26:23):
a thrilling victory for once again for Barcelona. Now we
have North America's side, El Traffico coming nine pm Eastern
six pm local time in Los Angeles as Galaxy takes
on LAFC and a little bit of odd news. First off,
let's I think odd news on the defending champion to
start with, in case you haven't been paying attention to MLS, Galaxy,

(02:26:44):
who are the defending champion, are winless. We are thirteen
match days into Major League Soccer and they are oh
three and ten three draws, ten losses, no wins for
the defending champion. It's nothing short of concerning. But you
know who's not concerned? La Galaxy apparently most for most
other clubs around the world. A thirteen game winless record

(02:27:09):
would be enough even as a defending champion, to kick
the manager out from a third story window, But instead,
on Friday and head of their in City Derby, Galaxy
decided to give a multi year extension to head coach
Greg Vaney. Now, Galaxy did say the decision to keep
Vanie around was decided earlier in the year, obviously because

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Vane had just won the MLS Cup, his second. But
I've seen managers you can for a lot less than this,
and it seems like being this laid in there, you
might have wanted to reconsider some stuff. I don't know
if I really agree with the move, but far be
it from my place to fire coaches. LAFC is formidable
as always, Galaxy is gone from one of the cool

(02:27:53):
stories in North America once again to the basement cellar
dwellers that they are. I'd love to say Galaxy, he
desperately needs a win here, but a lot of that
pressure just got taken out of the sales by deciding
to extend Vaney right before El TRAFFICO. That's gonna do
it for us, Bernie. Next weekend is the final match
day in England. As we said, Manchester City desperately needs

(02:28:16):
some points if they're gonna make it, and we will
talk next time previewing the Champions League final between Paris
Saint Germaine and Inter Milan.

Speaker 1 (02:28:25):
We'll see then.

Speaker 2 (02:28:27):
Well, speaking of La Galaxy Ula Galaxy fans, there's actually
Sunday night soccer. La Galaxy will play their rival LAFC,
who also had a rough start of their own, but
they've started to kick things off a little better, if
you get my drift. So there's your soccer report coming up.
We're gonna wrap up the show, and I want to

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set it up this way. You know, the eleven highest
pig quarterbacks, what do ten have in common? They've never
won a Super Bowl. Dak Prescott makes sixty million, Shallon
fifty five, Joe Burrow fifty five, Trevor Lawrence fifty five,
Jordan Love fifty five, Tua fifty three point one. Now

(02:29:08):
Brock perties in there between Tua and Jordan Love just
got a five year, two hundred and sixty five million
dollars deal, one hundred and eighty one million guaranteed. That's
the horse they're gonna ride. Jared Goff fifty three million,
Justin Herbert fifty two point five, Lamar Jackson fifty two
and Jalen Hurts the lone winner of the Super Bowl
in that list of eleven. So why do I bring

(02:29:29):
that up? I'm gonna make a case, Yes, you heard
me right, why brock perties contract is well deserved? Yes,
even though I just told you ten of the eleven
for Perty's been to a Super Bowl and what's their alternative? Okay,
you're gonna go to go back and try to get

(02:29:49):
Trey Lance again. So coming up, we wrap up the
show and I'm gonna share with you why I believe
brock Perty's contract is absolutely well deserved. Fraddle, come to
your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Keep it locked right here. You listen to the Bernie
Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We'll wrapping it up

(02:30:10):
on the Bernie Frattle Show. Fox Sports Radio. Been with
you since eleven pm Pacific on Saturday night. I'll be
back on these airwaves next Saturday night, eleven pm Pacific.
I want to thank my producers Mark and Brianna for
all their efforts tonight. Really appreciate it. Before I get

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to my commentary on why I believe that Brock Purty
is very deserving of his contract. Let's just quickly dive
into this Thunder Nuggets game, which you'll tip off here
in about about ten hours in Oklahoma City. The Thunder
seven and a half point favorites. The total is two twelve.

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I will tell you that games Evans are normally tight,
especially after the first round. They tend to go under
about sixty sixty five percent of the time when you
go back ten years. There's a grind in the first quarter,
in the fourth quarter, and the role players tend to,
you know, not take as many shots as they do.
They defer to the stars. So look, there you have it.

(02:31:20):
I like Denver plus the points, and I think Denver
has covered seven of the last ten times they've played
Oklahoma City. I like the under as well, but I'm concerned,
very concerned about Aaron Gordon's hamstring. I'm concerned about how

(02:31:41):
much gas in the tank that Nicola Jokic and Jamal
Murray will have in the fourth quarter during crunch time.
It's been a hell of a year. Would it surprise
me if Denver won?

Speaker 5 (02:31:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:31:53):
But look, Oklahoma City's home. They won sixty eight games
this year and Denver, will you know, they up their
championship hopes alive at home because Jokich, Murray, and Christian
Braun combined for seventy seven points. Now, this will be
a referendum on Shay Gilges versus Jokic as an MVP

(02:32:14):
type of a battle, although I think SJA will win
the MVP. And of course, let's not forget Russell Westbrook,
who the Nuggets, the former checked at the Thunder. His
team has the former Thunder player. Excuse me, his team
has really disrespected man. They've left him wide open, daring
them to shoot. And it's not been a good series

(02:32:34):
for Russell Westbrook. So he's got a chance for redemption,
will he? I don't know. Mark m'doney doesn't think.

Speaker 7 (02:32:41):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:32:43):
You're gonna need big games out of the stars, and
Denver's proven they can do that. But they go about
three and a half players deep and the Thunder goes
about ten deep, just the way the cookie crumbles this
time of year. All Right, you heard me say a
few minutes ago that of what are ten of the
top eleven paid quarterbacks in the NFL have in common,

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they have never won a Super Bowl. That would be
Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence, Jordan Love To,
Tacovo loo At, Jared Goff, Justin Herbert Lamar Jackson, and
now Rock Party enters the fray. The only person on
that list who's won a Super Bowl he'll make fifty
one million this year is Jalen Hurts. But I believe

(02:33:30):
strongly that Rock Proty's contract is well deserved. Why his performance.
Let's face it, Okay, he dip a bit last year
because there were a lot of injuries. But here's the reality.
Someone who's who covered the Lions for ten years from
ninety eight to eight and saw it all right, and

(02:33:52):
it was part of the pre and postgame team. I
was there in the middle of the belly of the Beast,
and I saw from Wayne to Bobby Ross to you know,
Gary Muller, who was an interim. Then Matt Millen takes over,
hires Marty morning Wegg. That was a disaster. They fire him,
They bring in Steve Merriyucchi fires him on ceremoniously on

(02:34:14):
Thanksgiving Day two thousand and five. And then you bring
in you know Rod Merrick. Well, I liked they brought
in Dick Churn as a as an interim I liked him,
but they weren't going to sell the press conference hiring him.
So then they end up with Rod Marrinelli. And so
when I say I said it all, I did. Okay,
My first year ninety eight was Barry Sanders last year,
and my last year in two thousand and eight was

(02:34:34):
the oh and sixteen Rod Marrinelli team. So yes, I
saw it all, including three playoff teams. But the one
thing is I can't remember. They were the entire ten
years where the fan base and the management and the
coaches had confidence and our quarterback as a true franchise quarterback.

(02:34:55):
John Lynch is a smart guy. Kyle Shanahan's a smart guy.
They whipped on the Trey Lance thing. But look what
they've managed to do. They've been to the Super Bowl Tour.
Look they have confidence in Brock Purty as their franchise quarterback.
That's what's you're weight in goal in the NFL. Yes,
there was a challenging twenty twenty four season. You had

(02:35:16):
many injuries to key players, but Purdy showed an ability
to lead the team to a strong finish, including playoff appearances.
He showcased his potential, He showcased his worth, this is
what the pay scale is now, all right. This gives
the forty nine ers security at the quarterback position through
twenty twenty nine, and basically it's a reflection of their

(02:35:37):
belief that brock Purty, with the right supporting cast, can
lead him to a super Bowl victory this time. Okay again,
the twenty twenty four season was difficult. The Niners were
a mass unit. Perty still led the team to a
fairly strong finish. He has not only performed on the field,

(02:35:59):
he has shown his potential as a franchise quarterback. No question,
this is an underappreciated player. I believe who frankly you
know is now can maybe shake the name mister irrelevant
for good because his rise to prominence as a starting
quarterback after being drafted last in twenty twenty two. He

(02:36:21):
is a testament to who he is as a player
and as an athlete and as a teammate, and his
perseverance and his talent. Let's not forget that. Let's not
dismiss that so quickly. So look, the other thing, too,
is Perdy's contract is significant. It's still basically considered team
friendly according to the forty nine ers, and so they

(02:36:44):
still believe they can build a strong roster around him.
I believe Rock Prody was well deserving of that contract
to sixty five, two hundred and sixty five million for
the next five seasons. I mean, he made like two
point six million his first three seasons. And look George
Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and Kyle Usacik, they've all posted

(02:37:07):
on Twitter. They're very happy with fire emojis. They know
what he can do. Deebo Samuel Samuel, who's only a
long even with the team, congratulated Rock Perty, saying, you
know what he had it coming. Quote congratulations brother, well deserved,
Deebo Samuel, He's not even with the team anymore. So

(02:37:28):
if the Niners can stay healthy, I think Perty, I
think their best days are ahead of him. And when
you consider, you know, it's the thinnest position in all sports,
let's face it, I think it was very well deserved. Finally,
give it up. I'm loving every benut of this. We're
gonna have to wait till next year, but Michael Jordan
is joining NBC Sports as a special contributor to their

(02:37:50):
NBA coverage when the twenty five to twenty six season
begins next November. NBC made the announcement just this last Monday,
and I think it's kind of a foreshadowing preview of
a movie like type thing, because they want people to
look forward to see the NBA back on NBC. I

(02:38:10):
think Jordan even said that the NBA on NBC was
a meaningful part of Jordan's career. Remember that and Jordan.
I think Michael Jordan is a very articulate guy. He
is a very interesting guy. Obviously, I consider him to
be the goat. He's been out of the NBA for
twenty three years, but he still sells more jerseys and
swag than anybody else. And look, Jordan's not one of

(02:38:32):
those guys that seeks attention, but his legacy on and
off the court speaks for himself. So I will guarantee you,
and I think it'll be a lot better than Tom
Brady is. I guarantee you that when Jordan, you know,
takes his position at the broadcast desk as it were,
we're all gonna be paying attention. And by the way,
they're launching Sunday Night Basketball in January NBC in Peacock,

(02:38:56):
so hopefully of Michael Jordan to be a part of
that it's gonna do it for the Bernie Frattle Show.
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