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much to do, so little time and yes, in these
recent times where history is being made and virtually a
daily basis, well, Friday night at the Chicago White Sox
also made history. Goodbye nineteen sixty two Mets. Hello twenty
twenty four White Sox. You know, making history is oftentimes
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serious business or epic or melodramatic, but not always. Sometimes
it's even hilarious humorous. Take the nineteen sixty two Mets.
Until Friday, they were the losing his team in the
history of Major League Baseball. They were managed by Kathy Stenegel.
They lost one hundred and twenty games in their inaugural season,
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but they did it with this sort of a pinachat
the flair that will never be duplicated. Here's an example,
they have this rookie shortstop. His name was Eliot Chacone,
super athletic, dazzling fielder. He displayed such a lack of
awareness with complete raw efficiency that it's almost too absurd
to believe, but it's all true. Whenever a pop fly
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would float into left center field, Chackne would pursue with
a vengeance. Many times he crashed into the centerfielder, the
Mets centerfielder Jim Hickman, knocking him to the ground, inevitably
causing him to drop the fly ball. True story, This
happened multiple times. Finally, Hickman's teammate Joe Christopher suggested that
Hickman yell outyolo tangoyolo tango instead of I got it,
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because see Chacone didn't speak English, and clearly I got it.
Wasn't working. Sure enough, a few days later, right on
que a flyball drifts it into short center field, Hickman
camped under it. Youo lo tango, youo lo tangoyoltango. You
could hear it all the way to Staten Island, And yes,
sure enough, Elia Chacone peeled away, giving Hickman plenty of
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space to feel the popfly and Just as it reached
his glove, Hickman was slammed to the turf by the
Met's left fielder Frank Thomas, who conveniently enough didn't speak Spanish.
You know what he Allen said it best, Nostalgia is
a trap. You know who else made history on Thursday,
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the Oakland A's. They played their final game in Oakland.
Sometimes history is nostalgia, you see, because for many people,
the power of sports fandom is he's darned near a
religious experience. Thousands of people packed themselves in the stadium's
venues arenas. They're there to root their team, provide emotional support.
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But the chair they boo. But it's all toward a
single cause. There's majesty in that, even if beers now
cost about twenty five bucks a piece these days. But
I digress from afar. I wasn't there that stadium many times.
What happened Thursday in Oakland felt like one of those
religious experiences in the best way, but yet the most
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painful way. Nearly forty seven thousand people jammed into Oakland
Alomuna County Coliseum to see the Oakland A's play one
last time. It was joyful, The joyfulness of these people
was evident, but even more evident and obvious was their pain.
There was a tangible, visceral feel, so human, so relatable.
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Woody Allen said it best, Nostalgia is a trap. Forty
six eight and eighty nine fans came through the turnstiles Thursday,
hoping for one last memory in Oakland, and they wound
up on nostalgia overload. Ricky Henderson and Dave Stewart, both
Oakland A's legends and Oakland natives who rank among the
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Oakland A's greatest players, they combined to throughout the first pitch.
Barry Zito, who won the Scion Award back in twenty
oh two, sang the national anthem, and for more than
a full hour before the game, the Video Scoreboard aired
the broadcast of the nineteen seventy two World Series, the
first of three consecutive World Series titles for the Old
Swing and A's of that era. This wasn't that these
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modern Oakland A's lost at least ninety games for three
straight seasons, but the final note on this day long
Swanselng will nevertheless rank among the most memorable days of
Oakland fans in coliseum history. Cars lined up outside the
gates before seven am for a twelve thirty local start.
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Fans cheered the action as if the pent were on
the line. Especially the A's have a center fielder named
JJ Bleday. You may or may not have heard of him,
but you'd have thought it was the seventh game of
the World Series. He raced through his right to make
a spectacular diving catch on a call hit by Carson Kelly,
and the place went bananas. I'm told that driving in
the gates Thursday and seeing the fullness of the parking
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lot and feeling the energy the emotion of all the
fans was something these people will never forget, they'll treasure
for the rest of their lives. But there was also
palpable anger on the day. There were shirts bearing the
words sell. They ranked as the probably most popular fashion choice,
and after a few fits and starts early in the game,
chance of quote sell the team caught on to the
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fifth inning, and it echoed throughout the stadium throughout the
late innings. The bottom line, alas the Oakland, Alameda County
Coliseum is no more. Perhaps a bart Giamati had it right.
The games our design to break your heart. The fans
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in a gentleman. It's his third appearance on the show.
His name's Doug Anderson. He's a prominent doctor chiropractor in Brea.
He works with Olympians, works with professional athletes, and Doug
and I have been friends a long time high school
football teammates. We had him on after Damorrow and the
d Mar Hamblin injury. Told us exactly what happened with
the commodial quarters had him on before the season, said
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is Aaron Rodgers is going to be okay. Doug basically
predicted exactly the way Aaron looks right now. Now we're
going to talk about Tua, tell me he is coming back,
but we're also going to reference hereon as well. So
we're gonna talk concussions, and we're gonna talk forty year
olds with Achilles injuries and what's next. I'm Bernie Fradderwick
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Welcoming a gentleman. This is his third time on my show,
and I will tell you his first appearance. He explained
to the nation exactly what happened to Demor Hamlin with
commercial courts nailed it. We had him on just before
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a week one in the NFL. He predicted that Aaron
Rodgers would be just fine. Rogers looks like he's turned
the clock back fifteen years to that we're gonna at
the TUA and talk about Rogers. He's a prominent sports
doctor chiropractor in brad California. Good friend of mine too
from a football high school. Buddy say healo to Dougie Anderson. Doug,
welcome back, Bud, Hey, very, how's it going good. I'm
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so glad to have you back because you've been nostre
damas so far. And before I get to TUA, which
is an important subject because we're getting word today, he
definitely wants to come back and play, and I believe
you will week seven, So we'll get to that in
a second. You nailed the Aaron Rodgers thing. You cited
many examples of players who'd had achilles, even quarterbacks, so
we're forty that had Achilles. What I didn't know, Doug
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is he would have this much mobility, et cetera. What
are you seeing and can discontinue?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
No, I see no reason why it will continue. You know,
he is, he is really really good and basically, you know,
based on what Dan Marino did was an achilles that
wasn't repaired on one leg, he still performed pretty good
for a year. So yeah, I think I think Rogers
is going to be fine is basically, you know, the
big thing is the offensive line for him. They gave him,
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you know, enough time and he's gonna be He's going
to be fine.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, he's rolling right, he's scrambling. He seems like
he's got a little first up explosion. Turn the clock
back fifteen years. He's taken a few hits now, so
that's baked into the keg. What happens done now that
the surgery is completed, do the support muscle groups around
you start to get uh stronger and those muscles that
weren't firing start to fire again? What what's happening?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Well, that's happening. But remember too that you know, he
went through extensive rehabilitation and in fact, you know, although
I didn't agree, but he he was thinking he was
going to be ready last December, so he's had plenty
of time to get that thing. I doubt if he's
fealing much difference. You know, when you have a surgery,
once you're done with rehab and stuff, you'll still most
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people will still feel changes for a while, and so
you know his body is probably still going through changes.
Let well, I'm guessing it's he's probably getting close to
where he doesn't really even think about it anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, with three games under his belt, So you nail
that one. So let's talk about too. Here's what we know.
He's telling people today that he feels great, he feels fine,
he feels normal, He very much wants to come back
and play, and he's seeing a neurologist this week. So
let's start there. What do you think two is in
his recovery two weeks later.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Well, we know that about eighty percent of the people
that when they get a concussion by after two weeks,
they know they are recovered, they feel pretty much normal.
So appently, that's that's what he's saying where he's at.
Luckily the team, you know that when the team put
him on the injury list, the NFL rules say you
can't come back for four weeks, and you know, those
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extra couple of weeks are huge because even when you're asymptomatic,
the longer you wait before you come back and play,
that the lower the risk is of you know, the
second impact syndrome. And that's what we worry about with
him because that brain is you know, does become more
vulnerable once you take a good hit. So the fact
that he's not going to play till till week seven,
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is you know, is somewhat protected having had said that,
you know, if you know the fact, the kid, you know,
right he is. You know, everyone's telling him, well, you
should probably retire. He's got all the money in the bank,
et cetera, but he wants to play. I would I
would make sure. I would never let him on the
field without a mouthpiece. And he doesn't know how to
talk without a mouthpiece. I'd put a mouth piece in
him right now and have him, you know what, I
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want you talking all day long with a mouthpiece. I
don't want that thing out. I would make him wear
a queue collar, and I would make him wear a
Guardian cap, which the Guardian Cats are now legal member.
Last year they could only wear him, you know, in
the preseason and practice. And if you if your listeners
don't know what a guardian cap is, that's that thing
they put on top of the helmet, those giant padded
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things on top of the helmet. That's a Guardian cap.
The queue caller is is a little compressive device that
goes around the back of the neck and comes up
almost to the not all the way around, but comes
up to the sides. And what that queue collar does
is that puts a light pressure on your on your
blood vessels, and that increases the pressure in the brain
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because when we get a concussion, when we get hit,
it's what happens is that the brain, the outside of
the brain hits the inside of the skull back and forth.
That's that's what the what the damage has done. So
if that moves less like it's just like your little kid,
you're shaking a box at Christmas and something.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
That's movement in there.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
You know, if you wouldn't, you know, put more you know,
put more paper around there, more bubble wrap where you've
shaken it, you don't feel it banging. That's basically what
the queue caller is doing. And interesting, you know, they
and they got the queue collar. They figured that one
out from studying woodpeckers because of the tremendous damage the
workpeckers get. And they can how come these guys don't
get brain damage. And it turns out the workpicker has
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a tongue that ends up going around its brain. Well
it's well, it's you know, well, it's take it on
the wood to protect it from from moving too much.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
You know what I think, I honestly, I think I
saw that in the movie Concussion with Will Smith.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, you know what, we may have I'm trying to
remember if that was in there or not.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Cool talking with Doug Anderson, prominent sports doctor chiropractor Bray California,
works with olympians, works with professional athletes. So let's talk
about this que caller because you know, I've seen linebackers
wear them, but never a quarterback. Had he had a
Q caller on the night he suffered the injury a
couple of weeks ago, I wonder if he might have
foregone getting a concussion.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Your thoughts, uh, you know he My guess is he
probably still would have had a concussion, but the degree
of it may have been was probably going to be decreasing.
And that's the thing. None of the stuff can none
of the stuff can prevent a concussion. But what they
can do is they can reduce the reduced the sari
of the concussion. So if he if just now Thurn
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was in property, if he had the queue caller, Anachy
had that big guardian cap, which is now legal. I
haven't seen many people wearing them, but you know that
guardian cap. If you hit your helmet hits a reg
their helmet, that's going to that's decreases the impact by
about ten percent. If two guardian helmets collide now it's
going to be about a twenty percent decrease in the impact.
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Of course, when we're talking concussion and stuff too, there's
so many other variables as far as you know, are
you the striker or are you the person that's going
to get struck. The person that's going to get struck
usually is the one that incurs more damage. Also the direction,
the line of drive that is important, and also positioning.
You know, they've studied the positions and you know, we
know that wide receivers, TVs and quarterbacks tend to have
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the highest risk. They tend to have the highest single
incident you know, trauma. But then on the other side,
the linemen have more repetitive micro traumas. And you know,
when you're talking serious things like CTE, you know, a
lot of the literature now is saying that it's it's
that that's the small mini traumas, the subconcussive traumas, the
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ones that aren't concussion, but they add up over time.
Those also can can trigger the trigger damage.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So Doug, let's talk about this, because two of went
the entire season twenty twenty three without a concussion. He
worked with martial artists, learn how to fall, learn how
to avoid contact. Seem to have a mental apse in judgment.
Can he simply return to what he was doing before
and find a safe space, as Steve Young says, Uh,
you know.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
We've seen it before. You know they can. I mean
when you go down the list of quarterbacks that have
had concussions, you know, quite a few of them had concussions,
and and you know many of them have come back
and done just fine, right, I mean Ty had what
ten concussions and had ten?
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Uh, the old Manning had four or five? Uh, you
know Rogers had had at least three. But again with
the long term damage. We're worried about, though, is you
have the big concussions, but then it's it's a little hits,
you know, the ones that add up. Like Brent Park says,
he goes, you know, when you have the ringing of
the ears, seeing stars, he goes, You know, that's a concussion,
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he goes. And if that's a concussion, I've had hundreds
of them.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, that's I don't think he's wrong. All right. All
this is predicated on Tua being cleared. I bet a
finger he'll be cleared. What are your thoughts do you
see any scenario that Tua is not cleared to come back.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Well, the expression I got from from reading the release
today was that you know, he's saying he's feeling good,
so I'm assuming he's probably gone, you know through most
of the protocol, right, you know, you've got it. First
it's say, you know, you just limited activity, white activity.
Then it's going to be a roabic exercise. Then you're
going to start adding weights and you know, and football
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specific exercise but without you know, any contact. Then you're
in football drills. And finally it's you know it's full
you know, full well full on scrimmaging, you know, uh,
you know, with contact. So those are those are the steps,
and you know, he seems to have been, you know,
from what we can tell from him, he seems that
he has recovered again. The good news for me is that,
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you know, without the history, they'd probably be putting him
back this this upcoming week because I had some quarterbacks
you know, trouble without him. But that he's not gonna
be able to play until week seven, and to me,
that is even more protected. Having said that, though, boy,
if he gets another one this year, that's probably gonna
be season over and then they're really gonna be you know,
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doing a palo on his on his uh, you know,
his career.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
But are we in agreement that he will be cleared
and he will be back on the field this year?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Uh, I would be surprised if that's not the case.
I am pretty confident that we're gonna see him, see
him in.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Week seven because doctors are always cautious, and I know
Teddy Bruski always said, you know, all clear you, but
you're on your own. This is your decision. There's a
lot of disclaimers. Uh, what's a quick, you know, one
minute conversation. Sound like that when a doctor tells two
he's gonna clear him.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well again, he's gonna he's gonna tell tour he's gonna
clear him because true has already gone through all the steps, Right,
He's gone through all the stages, you know, and and
including you know, the screens about just you know, his
cognitive function and that sort of thing. Right, I mean,
he's you know obviously if he if he's still a
sensitive to light or noise, if he's still dizzy, if
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he still has headaches, if he has brain vulger memory problems,
there's no way he's going to come back and play.
He's saying, all that stuff is already over and now
he's you know, and now he's going through the you know,
the protocol as far as getting himself back on the field.
So you know, it's all that is good. Then it's
pretty hard for us to say, you know, don't do it,
but we will give him a warning because you know,
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we now know that look at this stuff has serious
long term consequences, as we know from the movie Concussion, right.
And that's the thing is that when you start looking
at the statistics of NFL players who have donated their
brains to science, or a very high percentage of him,
you know, have chronic traumatic and stuff lost basically reading
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brain damage.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
So last thing for me, Scott, about a minute, sir.
I'm always blown away by the circle of life. You
nailed Rogers. I think you've probably nailed two as well.
And of course the circle of life to his collision
was with yep, tomorrow. Hamlin can't make this stuff up.
And Joe O three you talked about commocial cords. How's
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Damar Hamlin? He looks like he's back playing. Is he safe?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I think he's gonna be fine. I already do. I
think he's gonna be fine. I think that was just
a freak one shot thing. Just you know what. We
see him in the hockey players too. They get a
punchetsh just right the right spot, and that just they
can get that as well. Right, So I think he's
gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Doug, great stuff. We're gonna definitely get you back on
after TWA makes his return, which you both believe you will,
God forbid he gets another concussion. We'd have you on
then as well. But I'll have you observe him and
his play and some of the suggestions you made with
the mouthpiece and the additional padding and the helmet, and
we'll see where this goes. Doug, very good, Britty, appreciate it.
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You got a peal that is Doug Anderson. He's a
prominent sports doctor, chiropractor and Brea, California, a good friend
of mine, and he nailed the Tomorrow Hamlin thing that
have happened. And then right before Rogers stepped down the
field to make his return. He essentially predicted what has happened.
And Rogers looks like he's turned back the clock and
now here's Tua and we hope it's okay. And I
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know before the Dolphins play Week seven, I think they
have a buy in there. So I think we're looking
at like, I don't know, October twenty fifth, something like
that around then, But about a month we expect to
see two back on the field. Well, you know who
won't be on the field Saturday is UNLV takes on
Fresno State. He's a quarterback match Luca, who left the
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team suddenly Tuesday because of an NIL dispute. We're going
to talk about that coming up, because the story has
many layers, and it's like throwing a pebble in a
pond and watching the ripples across this nation of NIL athletes.
And the fact that this is a wild wild West
system with no regulation. Is the UNLV thing. The first
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to many like this, we'll talk about it. The first
is go to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wire.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
The latest, Yeah, Bernie, a blockbuster trade in the NBA Tonight,
ESPN reporting the Necks are acquiring Karl Anthony Towns from
the Timberwolves in exchange for Julius Randall and Donovan Devon
chen Zoe. Minnesota also will receive a twenty twenty five
top thirteen protected first round pick from New York via
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the Detroit Pistons, while the Charlotte Hornets, reportedly are the
third team in the deal, will receive draft compensation for
helping make the deal work. College football controversial ending down
in South Florida after thunder review.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Is reversed since an eighty.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Three cloud.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
A winning moment for the University of Miami and the
crowd as going back soly wild.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
With joy jubilation.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Miami Sports Network there with the call as Virginia Tech
appeared to take the lead as time expired on a
hell Mary call, but the ball that was initially ruled
complete was ruled incomplete because the officials said the player,
by their determination, was out of bound. So Miami holds
on to win at thirty eight thirty four. The Hurricanes
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now five and oh Rutgers it stays undefeated. They hold
on against Washington twenty one to eighteen, so the Scarlet
Knights find themselves at four and zero on the season
in Major League Baseball. ESPN is saying the Marlins and
Marlins manager Skip Schumacher will reportedly not return next season,
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and he informed his team of the news after the
team's fifteen to five win against the Blue Jays on
Friday night. As for the action on the diamond, the
Chicago White Side losing to the Detroit Tigers and they
set a new MLB record for most losses in a
season at one hundred and twenty one. They still got
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a couple of more games to go after their lost
four to one to Detroit tonight. The Cubs do blank,
the Reds won nothing. Nationals over the Phillies nine to one,
Pirates beat the Yankees four to two. Marlins blow out
the blue Jays fifteen to five. Astros beat the Guardians
five to two, Rays over the Red Sox two to one.
Brave shout out the Royals three to nothing, Orioles over
the Twins seven to two. Dodgers blow out the Rockies
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eleven to four. Brewers top the Mets eight to four,
Rangers over the Angels five to two. Padres get the
win against the Dianingbacks five to three. Mariners shout out
the Athletics to nothing, and the Cardinals beat the Giants
at San Francisco six to three.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Back to you, Bernie, all right, chef, thanks a lot.
So by now you've heard the term NIL a million times.
Imagine the NIL as a highway. I'm gonna give you
an analogy. Forget they say it's landscape. I'm gonna call
it a highway. Imagine the Nils a highway. There are
no traffic lines, there's no stop signs, lanemarkers, there's no guardrails,
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there's no law enforcement. And that's what we have in
the NIL. As a result, there's virtually no oversight. There's
no accountability in the Nile space, and far too often
promises are made to student athletes that are broken UNLV
on their way to an epic season. They had a legitimate,
legitimate chance to make the college playoff. That's not hyperbole.
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I was in Houston for their game Week one, when
they hammered Houston. I saw their quarterback, Matt's Luca. He
looked very good, tremendous field. General poor Man's rock Party
doesn't pass like Brockbirdy, but he was a great leader
and a superb runner, and he ran Barry Odom's offense
and won that job period. As a matter of fact,
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I would say, look his seventy five yard drive with
a minute fifty to go against Kansas two we used
to go in Kansas was the stuff legends are made of.
I don't know if the other quarterbacks in the roster
would have done that, But I digress. How the hell
does this happen? Where prior to week four? We all
know if he doesn't do it before week four, he's done.
He's a fifth year red shirt, one of the final
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one of the final COVID babies as I call him.
So he can quit now and find another team next year.
But he has to do it before week four? So
how does this happen?
Speaker 9 (25:25):
All?
Speaker 10 (25:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
There's no short story, but I can tell it quick
see because it all started in January when Matt Sluca's
coach at Holy Cross, Bob Chesney was his name. He
left totally Cross for James Madison. Sluca was invited but
with no guarantees, so he connected with Brennan Marion, UNLV's
offensive coordinator, who allegedly told allegedly told Matt Luca that
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quote getting one hundred grand Nile money wouldn't be a
problem Now two things. I get it. All the lawyer
geniuses on Twitter that don't know a damn thing said
why he's got to sign contract? Well, first of all, yes,
I get it, this was a verbal agreement. But if
you understand contract law, this met the standards of offer,
acceptance and consideration. Verbal contracts are very enforceable if the
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elements align, and in retrospect, these appear to do just that.
And I am not applying it anyway. He's ever going
to take legal action against the school. I'm trying to
set their record straight. My keythitch when I hear people
try to talk about this. Furthermore, according to Max Luca's
agent advisor, Marcus Comarty, this agreement was made in January,
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and according to Comarty, you can't even sign an NIL
agreement in writing without the student being enrolled at the school,
which wasn't going to be for several more months. So
UNOV issued a statement in response on Wednesday, but it
was a bit vague and obtuse, and it really didn't
contend any language, specifically denying Sluke was offered one hundred
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thousand dollars. Now, honestly, how hard would it be to
just simply make the defindity of statement in succinct terms.
We never promised him one hundred thousand dollars, period, but
they didn't. Additionally, Brennan Marrion, the OC who allegedly told
him that gave him a hundred grand wouldn't be a problem,
couldn't be reached for comment, So for now he's not talking.
(27:19):
All I know is if I never told somebody I'd
give him a hundred grand and it made national news,
I would be talking a lot. Now. That's fast forward
to June of this past year, Sluca arrived on campus
and he was actually paid three thousand dollars and a
completely separate deal for a certain summer deal, which they
categorized as the Child Cancer Society. When you know, Sluca
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enrolled at UNOV in June and his advisor Marcus Cormarti
openly explaining that money was only designated as a relocation fee.
The story got a little sideways because people thought that
the three thousand dollars deal was a was the deal
he agreed to and sad on the contract for for
four months note not true. But shortly thereafter that practice
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starts and they're in camp and Marcus Cromarti, his advisor,
insisted he really started to follow up pretty vehemently on
the payment that he thought Sluca was promised, and the
response he got was that the offer wasn't legitimate since
it didn't come from head coach Barry otom Coromarty then
said he tried to negotiate a negotiation ensued. They went
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from ten grand a month to five grand a month,
only to be told that the best Unov could offer
would be three thousand dollars a month for four months.
There's another wrinkle here too. I'm told the local collective
here I believe their name is Blueprint Sports and Entertainment,
they said they couldn't talk to Comarty because he wasn't
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licensed in the state of Nevada, which is true. So
team Sluca, team Comarti. They said, Hey, we're out of here.
We've been lyed to. That was their statement, and they're gone.
Matt Sluka has entered a transfer portal, and I'm told
he's already getting attention from a couple of power for schools,
and don't be surprised that if January rolls around, I'm
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told he could get money in excess of one hundred
grand to do it to another school. So there's that
amateur psychology suggesting that Unov really never believed Luca would
Sluca would leave. They called his bluff, but he did. Well,
that's just a theory. Another theory is that the nil
collective here, the Blueprint Sports and Entertainment company, maybe they
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don't have the money. They just simply don't have the money. Now,
this is the summation. Basically, it appears that in January
twenty twenty four, the OC at Unov ostensibly made a
verbal commitment he was not authorized to make. Then it
was outsourced to a third party, which is the anile collective.
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In this case, they're called Blueprints Sports and Entertainment, who,
by the way, did vehemently deny knowing anything about disagreement.
Their third statement was much stronger. Sluca's moved on, and
I think he's drawing interest from Power four schools. I
believe he'll get more than one hundred grand next year.
So what are we going with this? Well, first of all,
you ANDV plays Saturday a little over twelve hours here
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at Legion Stadium against Fresno State. First conference game. Should
be a doozy. They'll start a quarterback named Hodge Malik Williams,
who's a transfer from Campbell, will be his first start.
Sluca beat him out, and we'll see where they go.
We'll see where the season goes from here. There's already
narrative farming. I'm not going to waste my time with that.
But this is going to be a major topic for
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a midnight hour and I can't wait to hear from
our callers at eight, seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty
three six nine, eight, seven, seven, nine and nine on Fox.
Callers have been tremendous. Who do you believe? Who do
you believe? Do you believe Sluca's version and his dad
and the agent advisor Marcus Cromarty, or do you believe
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the school's version. What's your reaction? What's your reaction on
the thoughts and the whole nil thing in the first place,
and how this is clearly a thorn becoming more of
a thorn in college football? And you know, do you
expect more of these events to happen? Or is this
(31:28):
just a new normal? This is it? Get over it?
So from where I sit here in Las Vegas, in
twenty minutes, it'll be twelve midnight, And from where you
sit perhaps it will also be twelve midnight literally or
maybe figuratively. But anyway you slice, at the midnight hour
is where you have the final word, kind of a metaphor.
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So I want to get your thoughts. What was your
reaction when you heard at the quarterback three and zero start,
legitimate chance to get to the playoff. Very good football team,
very good. They've beaten two Big twelve teams on the
road already this year Houston and Kansas. And Kansas was
ranked fifteenth before the season started. And if they just
kept winning, yes, I think there's a high possibility, if
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not a probability, you unov could have had a shot playoff.
The quarterback walked away from that over money, over what
he thought was a promise. Who do you believe? Whose
sade of you on? What are your thoughts? What are
your thoughts on? Nil? Want to hear it all? Coming up?
Will tell you the part B of what we'll be
talking about tonight in the midnight hour. Although I do
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believe party is probably gonna take up most of the
air in the room. I'm Bertie Fraddle. We are coming
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midnight hour. Your calls eight seven, seven ninety nine on
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Fox A seven seven nine nine six six three sixty nine.
Definitely very much look forward to hearing your thoughts on
the situation at UNLV with a quarterback quit summarily in
an undefeated team because of an nil dispute. You heard
me lay it out for you. I want to hear
your side. Who you believe? You believe the quarterback? Do
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you believe the school? What's your thoughts on nil? To
begin with? If you take it anywhere you want, caller
has been great, all right. You heard my monologue at
the top of the show. The games you decided to
bring your heart. The bottom line is the oaklan As,
Jeff pass It tweeted out the baseball writer. Here's what
he said. The Oaklanas were killed by greed. Do not
allow the people responsible for this to spend it in
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any other way. John Fisher did not have to move
this team. Major League Baseball and its owners did not
need to be complicit in it. This was a choice,
a wrong one. History will sneer. I don't think I
can disagree with any any of that. The crazy thing
about what happened Thursday in Oakland was that the forty
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seven thousand fans seem to find a way to try
to enjoy one last hurrah, knowing the inevitability was about
to happen. Remember, this is a city that wave goodbye
to the Warriors, the Golden State Warriors. Yeah, they're still
in the Bay Area, but they left Oakland. The Raiders
left Oakland twice, came here. They've been here three or
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four years now. And now if everything goes according to Oyles,
well the oklan Azi play here, we'll see, we'll see.
There's just too many questions still, it's probably a seventy
five percent, but I don't know that it's one hundred
percenter piece on people I talked to. But let's not
focus on that. One of the more poignant backstories is,
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you know, when you go to an event, you go
to a Major League Baseball game, you go to any
kind of event, professional sports, college sports, even a concert,
there's merchandise that's sold, there are vendors. These people make
a living. And I'm told that before, during, and after
the game, the Oakland fans literally cleaned out every bet
(35:15):
of merchandise that existed, including all the merchandise that's bootleg
merchandise that you often see selling up and down the
streets of stadiums after games. They even interviewed a couple
of these people. They were, you know, were emotional. They
were quite poignant. I mean their names. I don't think
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they mind me mentioning him. Ken Hopkins and Mike Faye.
They had to combine thirty eight years of spell experience
selling shirts outside baseball stadiums. They've been stationed right next
to each other by the south gate of the coliseum
near some taco vendors, and one of the shirts said
thanks for the memories. And there are images of Ricky
Henderson and Dennis Eckersley and Roley Fingers etc. In the
(35:59):
two typical A's kelly green, yellow, et cetera. Hopkins is
a gentleman. He said he lived in Oakland all his life.
He's been selling parking lot T shirts and hats for
fifteen years. But he also said he's been a fan
of the A's since he was six years old, and
he told the reporter how truly sad it was to
lose his home round team, hometown team. But then there
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was a resignation in his voice. He knew it was coming.
He said, it is what it is. Will he travel
to Sacramento next year to do the same thing? No, quote,
I probably won't do no business in Sacramento because it's
my Oakland A's, just like they were my Oakland Raiders.
The other gentleman, fayhe he hasn't made the decision yet
as to whether or not he'll travel the A's games
to sell shirts. That's a ninety mile drive each way
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to West Sacramento and it's not even a major league ballpark. However,
he says, I don't know if I'm gonna let them
get rid of me that easily. This guy's been selling
T shirts outside the stadium going back to twenty oh two,
even had a job inside the coliseum going back to
nineteen eight eight. So I want to hear from the
callers part B as well, what are your thoughts on
the Oakland A's leaving Again. I've always said the most
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boring conversations are when everybody agrees. You may say, get
over it, suck it up, Buttercup, this is progress. You're
coming to Vegas. Or you may be more sentimental. You
might have your own thoughts. Whatever your thoughts, I want
to hear them. I don't dictate to people what to say.
But you saw what happened Thursday, and this has been
inevitable for a long time, you know, the last team
(37:30):
to leave their city in Major League Baseball and up
route with the Montreal Expos. So it's been a minute.
So first topic, well, the A's will be the second topic.
Feel free to weigh in on that as well. But
I'm thinking the topic that's probably going to you know,
certainly certainly take all the air out of the room,
and justifiably so as the smile thing. As we have
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another full slate of college football. By the way, if
you like to write good read good journalism. Tim Kown
of ESPN A wrote of fabulous. I guess it's being
deemed a eulogy over the Oaklan Ace and the headline
is Oklan A's fans say painful farewell ahead of move
to Las Vegas. And there's a lot of detail in there,
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and there's a lot of personal stories, and there's a
lot of history and too smart sports fans and thoughtful
sports fans like the ones who listen to call this show.
I think you'll enjoy it. So we got nil issues,
a quarterback quitting on his team, and we've got Oakland
A's issues as they leave the city to head to
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another city in front of forty seven thousand fans, and
you got to see the suffering on their faces. On Thursday.
Want to hear from minute eighty seven to seven, nine
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quarterback quitting. Who do you believe Who's sat of you
on and the Oakland A's are no more. It's time.
It's the midnight hour. Well, I always look forward to
the midnight hour because everybody does such a great job.
But last week at this time, who knew a quarterback
would quit? And the way he quit, and of course
the oklin As reaction. Now that it's over looks just
(39:34):
a little different. We waste no time. Let's get a rolling.
Paul in San Jose starts us off tonight. Paul, your
first step at the midnight hour?
Speaker 11 (39:42):
Hey, how do I sound?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
It sound fine?
Speaker 9 (39:44):
All right?
Speaker 11 (39:45):
So I wanted to touch really quick on the NIO and
the Oakland A's first at the NIO. My view on
it is remember when the NCAAA got two three years
ago and it went all the ways of Supreme Court
and the highly polarized society we live in with six
conservative judges liberal judges. That case was unanimous against the NCAA,
that said what they were doing.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Heyl to stop. Paul, I don't want commentary. It's going
back in the court. They're gonna have revenue sharing. I
want to know what your response was when you heard
the kid quit, and who do you believe hammered the school.
Of course, it's him.
Speaker 11 (40:18):
It's it's That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 12 (40:20):
These schools are businesses and these players are employees. If
the business does not meet the demand, meet the requirements
that were met in the conversations, Hey tough, Look, you
got to pay with the kid what you promised.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's how these schools operate. I'm an agreement. We're in
an agreement on that, So you go ahead, Paul.
Speaker 11 (40:40):
And then for the Oakland as, I think John Fisher
operated in bad faith. I don't think he ever had
an intention to build that stadium. Twenty years and he
didn't get a deal done.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
I mean, the lowest payroll and what for how many
years going on?
Speaker 11 (40:51):
However, what I have not heard was the city of
Oakland has lost three professional teams in three years. I mean,
at some.
Speaker 13 (40:58):
Point, where do weter we look to share them?
Speaker 11 (41:01):
I think both I share the blames for that.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Appreciate your thoughts, Paul, Thank you, and don't be a stranger.
You're always welcome on my show, Mike. In Las Vegas,
your thoughts, Hey.
Speaker 13 (41:13):
Bernie, Yeah, I'd like to touch on both subjects. In
Las Vegas, there's no such thing as a handshake.
Speaker 11 (41:19):
Deal, sure there is.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's not true. That's not true. Okay, So who do
you believe? Okay, here's the deal. I'm setting the rules people.
I don't want anybody not being able to get in tonight.
Commentary is fine, haven't got time for it tonight. Do
you believe the kid or do you believe the school?
Speaker 13 (41:36):
I don't believe either of them.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Warn Oh, com on, you don't think what conversation do
you think took place? Why do you think he moved
down here?
Speaker 9 (41:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (41:45):
Oh the kid?
Speaker 13 (41:46):
The kid is an innocent but his agent should not
have been negotiating because she was not a registered agent.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
He wasn't negotiating. You don't know the story.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
I know the whole story.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I just want to know who you believe.
Speaker 13 (42:01):
So I do know the story.
Speaker 14 (42:02):
I read the story.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Okay, I listen, listen, you stand on line, Mike. I
love having you, but we're gonna have real conversations tonight.
We're not gonna We're not gonna skiter around. I'm as
well sourced on this as anybody. All I want to
know is who do you believe? And what do you
think of the state of nil in college? And then
if we've got time. You can talk about the Oaklan as.
Speaker 13 (42:23):
Yeah, I think that that the UNLB are scumbags for
not coming up with one hundred thousand dollars in our stage,
in our city of Las Vegas for this student athlete
three and oh that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
I'll move on to Oakland, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 13 (42:41):
Oakland is a dying town. They're almost as dead as Detroit.
They've and as the previous callers said, they've lost three
national franchises, and not in three years. But in essence,
I'll say three years. And yes, Oakland's gonna come here, but.
Speaker 14 (43:00):
Not until they play in Stockford, Meto. And again, a
crappy Triple A ball club that doesn't even compared.
Speaker 15 (43:07):
To our.
Speaker 14 (43:09):
Our ballpark where the Aviators, an open Triple A franchise,
is playing right here in Summerland, about ten miles from
the strip. So so much for Open. You're a suck city.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
All right, thanks a lot, but I appreciate you, Thanks Mike,
and you're always welcome to call of your Friday night.
What I'm trying to figure out, folks, is how do
you feel about the team city losing his team? By
the way, Detroit's dead that's new to me. I jes
say August sixth, it's actually flourishing. And the Tigers were
fifty five and sixty three on August eleven, and they're
going to the playoffs. That the lines are sold out.
But all the respect, Mike, No, you call any time.
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We don't always have to agree, but I want to hope.
I want people to stay on point tonight. Andrew in Bakersfield,
you are up next. Your thoughts on this whole in
I in Las Vegas deal, who do you believe?
Speaker 16 (43:58):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I believe the kid, but I am just wondering.
Speaker 16 (44:01):
This is all I want to say.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
I don't understand what NIL is, and I don't understand
what the portal is.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Okay, I'm gonna explain that after you get off the phone.
You believe the kid. I appreciate your honesty. We thought
about the Oaklan Ags leaving their beloved city.
Speaker 16 (44:18):
I have no thoughts because I missed your commentary.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
All right, Well you can check in, Andrew. You've called
before and you're always welcome. Appreciate it. NIL stands for Name,
Image and Likeness, which was sort of approved whereby players
can earn money based on their name, image, and likeness,
it's turned into pay for play. The portal is merely
a way station for when a young man wants to
transfer from one school to another. He enters the portal
so that other schools know he's available. Long gone or
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the days of the red shirt rules where you can't
got to sit out a here, And so I hope
I explained that ever so quickly. I got to get
to these callers. Paul, Mike, Andrew, thanks for getting it
started off tonight. I genuinely appreciate you stepping up.
Speaker 4 (44:56):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Well, well we got tonight.
Speaker 17 (44:57):
Bud Faction came in the chain reaction because I strong
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man Bernie Fraddle and all of the Fox Sports radio nations.
Speaker 10 (45:18):
Bernie, how the hell are you?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
I'm doing great? Man. You sound like you had a
couple of Joe Cohler's there. Man, Well, oh man, just
a rock, maybe a couple of cream dements alongside or
do anyway? What's your thoughts on this whole in ild
the thing?
Speaker 17 (45:32):
Okay, then I think, man, I think the whole thing
is a sham.
Speaker 15 (45:36):
You know, I know the old Bannon brothers.
Speaker 10 (45:38):
Fought for it and all that.
Speaker 17 (45:41):
Wow, I honestly think it's a sham. And I think
Reggie Bush is the biggest piece of crap on the
faith of birth. I believe the guy, the kid.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
You believe Matt Lucas, you believe his version.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Yeah, I believe the kids.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Okay, my thoughts on Oakland leaving.
Speaker 17 (45:58):
Big fellow man, So we got a compown on what
a couple of callers were saying.
Speaker 10 (46:03):
Oakland is in a shambles, the city itself. I mean, look,
I work in the docks, and years ago the docks
in Oakland were flourishing. Over the last ten years, save
dwindled to just barely anything. And it's because of the
infrastructure of the.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
City, man.
Speaker 17 (46:20):
And it's a shame because it's a great tay. It
was a great town now being overrun by a bunch
of thugs and hoodlums. And it's just a shame, man.
Speaker 10 (46:29):
I mean, I think we saw it when In and
Out closed the only freaking franchise it's ever closed.
Speaker 18 (46:37):
And it was in Oakland because of all.
Speaker 17 (46:39):
Of the crafts. So I don't know, man, I know
Fisher wasn't on the huff and up exactly. He kind
of had that Seattle SuperSonics game plan. But you know what,
you can't blame him, man, because that place is like
by root, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Man, weell, if we can just get you to get
over the shiness, you're going to be just fine. Reading
between the things. But reading between the lines, you believe
they had no choice and at this point they just
can't sustain the major league franchise. Again, We're not always
going to agree, and I'm not saying I don't agree
with I'm just saying, you know, we're going to get
opinions from all over and I'm here for it. Van
(47:15):
in Minnesota, you are up next.
Speaker 19 (47:17):
Joined the party, Bernie. I think this is just a
tragedy the of Oakland. I feel so bad for these people.
I grew up in Chicago. I wasn't a names fan.
I'm seventy one years old. I remember when that was the.
Speaker 18 (47:30):
Kansas City's Sure, I remember the Reggie Jackson ears, you know,
and they had a storied franchise, a crazy owner, Charlie Finley,
by the way. But after all these losses for that
poor town, it's like people give up on these places
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that they I'm a white guy places there are twenty
two percent black like Oakland and have other or other
problems related to the poverty and the misery.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
So Van, Okay, let's pick. Well, this has been twenty
years in the making. I hate to say it, and
I'm not taking sides, although I do agree with Jeff
passengers remarks. Let's jump to how familiar are you with
the Nile situation here at n V with a quarterback
quit on Wednesday? I'm sorry, man, not at all. Okay, Well, listen,
(48:26):
you enjoy your evening, appreciate you checking in. We do
it every Friday night at midnight Pacific. Poppy in San Diego,
All right, Poppy, what do you think about the quarterback quitting?
Who do you believe? His story? Who do you believe?
Speaker 20 (48:39):
Yeah, Bernie, Yeah, well look on the quarterback situation, it's
gonna be back Bernie on the show. And look, I
believe the student, hard worker going to college. And look
you and I'll be a little Tanani gig with the money. Hey,
we got money. We know how much money Las Vegas
has come on now they're gonna get the Oaklan age
right there. I'll talk about the open eggs later. But
(48:59):
you look, they just didn't want to pay the kid.
I believe the kid, and look, he's gonna set out.
I don't know what's going to happen with you and
l V. Are they gonna win the next game?
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I don't know it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Do you believe the kid. That's the bottom line, all right?
The Oakland age, they're gone, gone, Zoe. They're playing Sacramento
the next three years and then we'll see if they
make it to Vegas. Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 20 (49:17):
On that look, I shout out to my friend Mason.
I called him out. He's from the Bear and I
called him on the last game, the Oakland one. He
was really sad they were He was drinking beers with
this friend over there, very emotional stuff from him and
the people in the open area, and I'm like, hey,
I'm sorry about that. You know. He was happy that
they want sorry they you know, it's the last game.
People filling seats out of the stadium and want souvenirs.
(49:39):
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
There was like sold out.
Speaker 20 (49:41):
It was amazing. I mean I saw the game and like,
I just feel bad for the people that I told you.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
My nostalgia's at track, all right. Poppy always appreciate you.
Check it in. Good luck to your pottery's, everybody in
the playoffs, Jim, Rob, Brian, Fernando, You're all getting in.
Hang tight. The midnight hour continues. You want to hear
from you, who do you believe in this innile situation,
your thoughts on nil in general? And then ever so
quickly the Oakland A's and Jackson. You hang ted. You're
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The Men that Hour continues, very spirited. Appreciate all the callers.
We go back out to the phones. Jim in Minnesota,
you're next, Hello, Jim, do we have Jim? Welcome back
(50:48):
to Jim later. Rob in Orlando, welcome back. You've called
the Men that Hour before.
Speaker 15 (50:52):
Good evening, Bernie, Happy Friday night, or Friday.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Morning where you're at all good, thank you sir.
Speaker 15 (50:59):
You got it man. Yeah, so, I definitely think the
kid is the one who's correct in this situation or
being honest about it. I mean, at the end of
the day, his story sounds very plausible and to my understanding,
if he didn't leave now, he would have lost this
his final year of eligibility by playing one or two
more games.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
So yeah, one more game, if he'd have played Saturday,
that would have been it.
Speaker 15 (51:22):
Yeah, exactly. So I think he put him over barrel.
Sounded like a game of an opportunity, come right with
the money.
Speaker 13 (51:28):
And they did not.
Speaker 15 (51:29):
So even if he's not a pro talent, which I
don't think he is, you know, at the very least
you can cash in for a half million or a
million next year, and sadly that's what that's what the
NCAA football.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Has come to. Very true, all right, Any thoughts on
the Oakland is vacating.
Speaker 15 (51:45):
Yeah, I'm not a huge you know, California guy, but
I will tell you this, as with any business, if
you patronize the business, they're going to stay strong and
be there. And my understanding their attendance, I know the
Park is crappy and all that good stuff. But I
grew up with minor league baseball here in Orlando. It
at you know, historic ticker Field.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, you know the Double A team there.
Speaker 9 (52:06):
Yep.
Speaker 15 (52:07):
I've had the dad the Orlando Twins here for years.
All the players that came up for the championships for
them came through there. And that was a horrible, horrible
place to go watch a game. But if you love it,
you go to it. You you know, as your local
sandwich shop or whatever else. If it's great, you you
go and you patronize. You give them your money and
they stay. If you don't, they leave.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Great call Rob, solid, rock solid on both points. And
that's an element to this, no question, that's an element
to this. Although the Okan fans would argue that, you know,
the payroll and John Fisher didn't really try to put
a winner on the field, et cetera, et cetera. I
mean it's going back to moneyball, right so, but great stuff, Rob.
Thank you. Brian in Minnesota. Lots of folks at Minnesota today,
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welcome in, Brian.
Speaker 5 (52:52):
Hey, how are you man?
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Good?
Speaker 21 (52:55):
I tend to believe Sluta side. I mean, the truth
is always to be in the middle. But as an
athlete in the spotlight, you know, especially a quarterback leader
of the team, he has to know that leaving is
going to raise some eyebrows and some questions. And I
just really can't believe that he would do this lightly
and like bring these questions with him into his next
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situation unless there were some real issues with the agreement
not being met. That's just kind of I just don't
buy that he would just lightly do that.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree only because UNLV's statement was
so tepid and they but but you know, we're never
gonna know. This is just a great roundtable discussion. Brian,
your thoughts on the oak leaving.
Speaker 21 (53:39):
You know, it's really sad and I think it's gonna
be a big what if as to if Fisher had
sold the team, if the new owner could have gotten
a stadium agreement done, because everyone's just saying sell the
team and it's going to be taken care of. But
I don't think it's that cut and dry, given that
other teams also seem to be leaving in droves. I
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think it's just really sad for the fans and a
really big what if has if the situation could have
been saved.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Thanks Brian, appreciate you checking in tonight. Fernando in Las Vegas.
You're up next, Good morning, good evening.
Speaker 22 (54:11):
Wherever the hell we are, doesn't matter what time it is.
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Hey.
Speaker 22 (54:14):
I believe h Fluca and I hope that a stay
up there in second man it because we don't want him.
Fisher can pay for the stadium, the four hundred million
dollars wherever he wants, no more owner welfare.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Thanks, it's Fernando. You there. Don't leave, yees, sir, because
so see you live here. You kind of get the vibe.
It's not like they're welcoming with open arms like the
Raiders were in the Golden Knights, where they kind of
showed up uninvited, hat in hand. How do you think
that rears exugly had here in the city.
Speaker 22 (54:44):
Your thoughts Probably it'll have a little honeymoon period for
a little bit. But yeah, they figured it out that
the turist will come play. I'll come pay and play,
you know, have a see some games and stay at
the hotels and gamble and money. It's all about money.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Bernie r y I Ron Fernanda, thanks a lot. We'll
see they're going to raise the Tropicana. I get two
thirty in the morning on October ninth, and you know
we'll go from there. Just because they do, that doesn't
mean one hundred percent the A's are coming. I still
think there's a lot of boxes to check. Jackson in Portland,
welcome in.
Speaker 23 (55:20):
Well listen. I'm not super familiar with the nil situation
with Sluka, but I'm definitely on his side in this situation.
From what I read, it seems like he's definitely you know,
he was made some Paul's promises and he basically had
no choice. But when it comes to the Aids, you know,
I went down to a game back in July against
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the Orioles, and even though I had nothing to do
with the A's or anything, I've never been ages fan.
The some of the friendliest people, friendliest stats. But the
whole situation is sad, and you know, I live in Portland,
so if the Blazers ever left, you know, Portland, I
know that that would be just devastating. And at the
end of the day, I feel like it was always
money over p pull money for fans, and that's what
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they're going to get. So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:03):
Yeah, no, you're not wrong. You heard Yeah, thanks a lot,
good stuff, Jackson. And you heard Jeff Passons quote Jim
in Massachusetts. Well, well, sure you got some things to
say about the nil situation here in Vegas with the quarterback,
and then we'll get to the.
Speaker 24 (56:18):
A's there you go, Ernie, Uh, the kids, right, I
think I believe the kid. I mean, at the end
of the day, it's about you and your family and
you know what you want to take care of and
stuff like that, because all sports is it's just a
meat factory. You know, if you're good, you stay. You know,
an injury puts you out, you know, so you got
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to grab for the gusto. You gotta go with the money.
Speaker 9 (56:41):
I mean, this day and age, you know so.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Well, I don't believe what you're doing. So how do
you feel about the A's.
Speaker 24 (56:48):
You know what? The that city you know, ever since
ever since the Raiders left, that city was going to
go downhill with all that's going on out there, and
you know you can't go out after noon time out
of the streets. I mean, they're they're a product of
their own being, not not the age personally, but society
out there. When they dropped the ball is when, uh,
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they should have made that building, you know, for baseball
and football and then have them piggybacker have him paid
for half. That would have been the smart thing to do.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
You know. Well he still hasn't coming up with the
money here for his end of the bargain in Vegas.
I mean this is a weird one. Man.
Speaker 24 (57:31):
Well, they shouldn't even you know, money talks everything else.
They should have had something on the line before they
started all this.
Speaker 2 (57:37):
Well they think they think they did. They think they
buttoned it all up. But you know, when the rubber
hits the road and life and folds and living color,
we see, we see. What's what? Jim always always great
to hear from you appreciate it. As a matter of fact.
Coming up, I want to hear what the crews got
to say. We got three great sports fans, Mark Bree
and of course the chef Kevin Wired When after in
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a minute, coming up your thoughts David in Kansas, you're
up next. What are your thoughts on the nil situation
and the you know of your quarterback?
Speaker 16 (58:08):
Hi, Bernie, I've close it before. I got three words,
free market capitalism. Let the market determine, keep the government
out of it. Let things happen. If the kid has
talent and he's he's probably telling the truth, then that
will survive. If you don't have talent, if you don't
have a market, whether you're a person or a university,
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you're not going to survive. If you're a city and
you don't have a market, you're not gonna survive. Make
things marketable and that's how things will work.
Speaker 2 (58:40):
All I appreciate it, David, Thank you very much. Yeah,
I do remember their call from before. All right, coming up,
I want to get the cruise thoughts on the Oakland
a's in that whole situation. You know, how would you
feel if your favorite team left town? Irrespective of what
the situation is in Oakland? Be first to go back
to a guy Kevin Wyre at the chef with the last.
Speaker 6 (58:58):
Yeah, Bernie, we had a couple of great games in
college at football. On Friday night, we had some controversy
at the ending down in South Florida.
Speaker 25 (59:06):
Roads takes drops, walks, walks, still looking fires for the
end zone. It is juggling around, it's still loose. Touchdown
cooking and throwing a touchdown, cooking a rolling a touchdown.
Speaker 7 (59:21):
After thunder review the runing on the final in his reversed.
Speaker 8 (59:25):
It's an eighty three time a winning moment for the
University of Miami Miami Sports Network with the call, as the.
Speaker 6 (59:33):
Seventh ranked Hurricanes stay undefeated. They hold off that Hail
Mary attempt as time expired by Virginia Tech to win
at thirty eight thirty four, as the pass was initially
ruled complete but was later determined by the officials to
be caught out of bound, so it is the Hurricanes
who do win this one. Rutgers gets by Washington twenty
one to eighteen, and in the NBA blockbuster trade Karl
(59:54):
Anthony Towns going to New York as the next acquiring
him in exchange for Jillius Randall and Donovan de Vincenzo,
as well as a top thirteen a protected first round
pick in a Major League Baseball Marlin's manager Skip Schumacher
reportedly will not reach her next season, and the Detroit
Lions filled the Detroit Tigers four to one and set
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a new record for most losses in a season at
one hundred and twenty one.
Speaker 26 (01:00:19):
Thank you, Bernie.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
All right, thanks chef, We'll get to the crew in
a minute. But first Ryan in Seattle joins us. Ryan,
your thoughts on this nil deal here in Vegas and
you're in Ylkameze?
Speaker 10 (01:00:30):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Bertie?
Speaker 27 (01:00:32):
I believe the kids the andil deal. What does he
have to lose If he was promised one hundred thousand
dollars and he doesn't get it.
Speaker 17 (01:00:39):
From the school, he can get.
Speaker 15 (01:00:43):
To the transfer portal and go somewhere else for fifty grand,
why would he take three?
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, it's raised his questions. Thoughts on the Oaklangs leaving.
Speaker 27 (01:00:51):
I'm a diehard baseball fan up here in Seattle, but
I'm not a fan of the Baroners. I'm a fan
of the team that I got to watch that would
the Atlanta breaks all of our games?
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Do you live? Did you live in Atlanta?
Speaker 27 (01:01:04):
No, I've ever lived in Atlanta, but I turned on.
Speaker 20 (01:01:06):
T D S, t N, t.
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
UH the Atlanta. The Atlanta had a hockey team leave,
the Atlanta Flams, and of course this super Sonics left Seattle.
So dealing with the Yeah, all right, Ryan appreciated. Man,
Let's get the crew in here. We got some good
sports fans. Mark Ramsey, Uh, I know you got to
have some thoughts on on the Oakland age. Let's just
let's just focus on that, uh, because the d nil
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thing gets so convoluted. I know you're a sports fan. Uh,
look at this through the prism of the good people
in Oakland. Just what are your thoughts on this whole deal?
Speaker 28 (01:01:41):
If I would live it in that town and my
team was about to leave, I would have so much,
you know, memories of the Reggie days and the days
of like you I want to call to, said Charlie
Finley putting together a team like so I'll name some
of the guys with the sal Bando and Roley Fingers
(01:02:04):
as a pitcher. Just the history of those teams that
were so great, so dominating, they would just wipe out
the entire season because the teams are so good and
so time passes and things change. And for the town
of Oakland to have such a crappy baseball team, and
(01:02:24):
from what I heard, never been there a crappy stadium
that across the board everybody talks about is a dump.
Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
So I've never been there.
Speaker 28 (01:02:34):
I can't say I've been there, but I've heard so
much about people who have been to the games and
have been following that that stadium is such a horrible
place that the city, the mayor, and the politicians in
that city when it comes to that stuff, couldn't find
a way to get it together and pull it together
(01:02:54):
to put a decent team on the field.
Speaker 7 (01:02:58):
And it's such a horrible thing where.
Speaker 28 (01:03:00):
The fans have to deal with that after all these
years of great success and then just basically into the
toilet and now their team is going to lose.
Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
And no, you're not, you're not, You're not wrong. I mean,
it's a it's a highly charged situation. They didn't spend
enough money on payil to put up you know, they
had competitive teams and listen, that stadium is old, it's dilapidated,
but man, it's it's still a vibe. It's it's there's
something about it when you look at all the history there.
And I guess at video montage they played history. The
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Raiders and the Age won three straight championships and you
had the Bash Brothers, et cetera. Breed the Oakland. A's
leave h did they leave Oakland? What your what are
your thoughts?
Speaker 29 (01:03:40):
So we were talking about it a little bit earlier.
Speaker 30 (01:03:42):
I actually went about two weeks ago, me and Monte
Bolognio is one of our anchors here.
Speaker 29 (01:03:47):
We did like a day trip.
Speaker 30 (01:03:49):
And it was just it was it was like heartbreaking
for me to see because I obviously I'm from here
in southern California, so to actually go and see the
fans and and kind of see and know that, you know,
like the clock was ticking, it was It's just heartbreaking
because it's like the fans really are behind, like they're
the ones, like the heart and soul of the team unfortunately,
(01:04:11):
but it's all about it's just it's just really corrupt
and just really sad. So I'm heartbroken for the fans
and I'm watching that yesterday was just really really sad.
And I couldn't imagine being a fan of that team
and just having them just like leave, Like I couldn't, like,
I like there'd be no world where the Dodgers would
ever leave La, Like you know, it's not like Brooklyn,
you know, like so the Dodgers.
Speaker 29 (01:04:32):
Aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 30 (01:04:33):
But I couldn't even imagine, like that's that would be
like disastrous and just devastating.
Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Right, And and the folks in Oakland they've lost the
Golden State Warriors. They moved across town. They're gone, and
then you lost the Raiders, and now you lose the
A's And it was on display Thursday with with the
emotional reactions. All right, chef, your thoughts.
Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
Yeah, the main reason that the Oakland are moving, actually
the only reason is John Fisher does not want to
be in Oakland anymore. He's a billionaire. I think it's
the gap that he owns so he has the ability
to pay for whatever stadium he wants. And simply put,
he just wasn't able to get free public money out
of the city of Oakland and was able to get
it in Las Vegas. And that's why that's the only
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reason he's moving. There's no loyalty on his part, has
absolutely no regard for the fans at all, and it
is a reminder that professional sports are big business. And
whatever they talk about community the fans, what's best for
the fans and how we come together, that's all just
lip service for them to make money. And that's something
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we need to that's something we need to remind ourselves.
I'm a big sports fan. The Dodgers, the Lakers, the Rams,
the Kings of those are all my teams. But I
also understand that they're not out there for me as
a person. They're there to make money. These are big businesses,
and I choose to participate as a customer in consuming that.
(01:06:00):
And if there's someone in Oakland right now, what reason
do you have to continue following Major League Baseball because
you were told that your loyalty you're spending on the
team over the years does not matter?
Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Right right? Got it good? I agree with everything you
said there, Chef. Let's go back out to the phones, Mike,
and Houston joins us. Mike, do you have any thoughts
on the mal situation in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
And then of course the a's, well, the a's, you know,
that's mostly why I called. Yeah, I do feel bad.
I have not been to Oakland, Yosh, some thirty years.
But I'm a baseball historian on the amateur level. Of course,
I can remember the Brawlin as you know the history.
You know, the seventies teams and the namorate with Reggy Jackson,
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Joe Joe Rudy and Bert Champonaires. And I'm liking you.
I don't know what Oakland, if they'll ever have a
chance to get to baseball, but to remember, but Adam
ripped the hall out of the city when he took
the oilers out.
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I mean, you're right with to Tennessee, right right?
Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
What's Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Tennessee we used in fans. We understand that the t
belongs to them now.
Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
But the memories walked us. I love you Blue Days,
you know the running shoot of warn Moon and got it.
It's heartbreaking to me.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
The bottom line is a you did Mike, thanks a
lot for calling. You just spoke to the nostalgia we
talked about in the opening. You remember in names, You're
going back and uh listen. It's heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking,
and it's an impossible situation because it's a business and
the businessman claimed they tried to keep the team there.
The fans didn't show up, but the stadium is not great,
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the team wasn't competitive. What are you gonna do? It
turned into an impossible situation. Coming up, we wrap up
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up on the midnight hour. Come to you live from
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the Fox Sports Radio Tirak dot com studios here in
Las Vegas at Bernie Fratto Show. Before I get to
the caller from Kansas City, a couple tweets from Fred Nebraska. First,
he says, Matt Sluca or any quarterback is not going
to pull up stakes to move across the country for nothing.
So I believe Sluca. I'm also a bit surprised you
and if you could not come up with one hundred
(01:08:45):
k after they're three and oh now, and he's no kid.
I think by the time they got to three and oh,
the ship had sailed. It got a little rough on
Monday from what I understand. But they've been trying to
you know, the agent Marcus CROMARTI been trying to negotiate
since since July to make this happen. And it was
kind of a he said, he said deal so and
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then Fred Putsbernie, if the Fisher didn't put any money
into the team in Oakland, what makes anyone think he's
going to put any money into the team in Las Vegas.
He's not going to change. I don't know that You're wrong, Fred,
and I believe it's if I had a nickel for
every time that conversation has come up here in Las Vegas.
Elon must be more in my lawn. Let's go back
out to the lawn. The phone lines cut in Kansas City.
(01:09:29):
Welcome in cut.
Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
Hey, Hey, good morning man. I gotta say something. And
I know it's not going to be the most popular
thing on earth, but I was born in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 20 (01:09:41):
I have a whole lot.
Speaker 9 (01:09:43):
Of people here in Kansas City, in Missouri that I remember,
old timers. I grew up right down the street from
Fatto Page and right around the corner from one of
the greatest scouts in the history of major leagues, and
the Negro leagues muckle.
Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yes, he's a great guy, hilarious man, and he told
some stories.
Speaker 9 (01:10:09):
I will tell you that. But let me tell you
something us here in Kansas City and me, especially as
a kid, I heard a lot of the old timers
talk about how much it hurts when the Kansas City
A's a team that bought us Fighter Blue and the
last I think it was draft, we actually got Reggie
(01:10:31):
Jackson while they were still here. But yet they were
moving out of Kansas City, while the city council and
everyone here was basically begging Charles o'finley to keep the
team here, and they said they would build a stadium
because they were still playing at old Morning Stadum behind
my old high school, Lincoln High School here in Kansas
City of eighteenth Street, and he was just like, can't
(01:10:55):
nobody tell me I gotta stay here. He defied the
Major League Baseball commissioners, he defied everybody and said, I
will move to California where there will be greater times
and there will be greater ways. And he was still
the same, the same cheapo that he was here. And
everything went wrong. So I have to say that one
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of the oldest trains in the history of life came
back to them. It might have took fifty seven years,
but if they'll do it richer, they will eventually do
it to you. And Oakland unfortunately, Oakland, Unfortunately, they now
are dealing with This is what happens when you deal
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with a snake. And that organization started out. When it
left there, it left somebody scorn, It left somebody upset,
and it left somebody hurt. And now you think you're special.
That's not the way life works. And I'm for the fans,
the younger generations of people like myself. Like I said,
(01:12:02):
I was born in sixty nine. That happened a few
years before me. But it might have took fifty seven
years for the chickens to come home to roofs, but
they did. And now yep, I.
Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I appreciate you. Cut good stuff. Man, don't be a stranger.
Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
We do this every Friday night at midnight, at midnight hour.
You know, you know, I don't care when anybody was born.
People can pick up a book. I mean you have
to pick up a book. It's easy to log onto
the internet and research stuff and you can learn and listen.
This is nothing new. All right. Interestingly enough, I was
(01:12:43):
going to mention this to Cut during his call. Before
the Athletics were in Kansas City, Hell, they were in Philadelphia.
So they started their professional franchise. It was born in Philadelphia,
then moved to Kansas City, then moved to Oakland. And
now we think they're coming to Vegas. When I bet
(01:13:05):
a finger, they're gonna end up here. No, I know
a lot of let's just put it this way. Don't
tell me, show me. But how about the Rams. The
Rams weren't born in Los Angeles. They were born in Cleveland.
They moved to Cleveland from they moved from Cleveland to
Los Angeles. They were the first major expansion team. And
(01:13:25):
let's not forget the Rams left, well, they left the Coliseum,
and then they moved to Anaheim Stadium, and then in
nineteen ninety five they bolted there and went to Saint Louis.
And now they're back in Los Angeles, and hell, I
don't even know how much the city. I still think
their fourth or fifth place in line behind the Dodgers
and Lakers and USC and UCLA and who knows, you know, Look,
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Hank Aaron seven hundred and fifty five home runs, with
the Atlanta Braves. Well, the Braves originally left Austin to
go to Milwaukee, left Milwaukee to go to Atlanta. The
Brooklyn Dodgers, they've never forgiven. They have never forgiven the
Dodgers for leaving to go to the West Coast in
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nineteen fifty eight because they had already lost the Giants
and then lose the Dodgers. The Lakers, they weren't even
born in Los Angeles. They were born in Minnesota. We
talk about the Golden State Warriors. They were born in Philadelphia.
Moved to San Francisco in nineteen sixty two. At one
time there was a team in Saint Louis that was
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an NBA team, the Saint Louis Hawks. Well, they moved
from Milwaukee to Saint Louis in the fifties, and then
they moved from Saint Louis. I don't even I think
they moved to Atlanta. Right. How about the Washington Senators
in nineteen seventy two, they went away, They went to
become the Texas Rangers. The NBA once had a team
(01:14:58):
in Cincinnati, the Cincinnati Royals with the gre Oscar Robertson.
They were in that market. Fifteen years major professional sports
kind of just get I mean, you had the Reds there.
Of course they end up moving to I think it
was they became the Kansas City Omaha Kings for a
bit of time, and then they moved to Sacramento. How
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about San Diego. I believe that the Buffalo Braves before
the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard, long before the Clippers were
the Los Angeles Clippers, they were the San Diego Clippers.
And before they were the San Diego Clippers, they were
the Buffalo Braves. This has been going on forever. The
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Utah Jazz, they weren't originally from Utah. Yeah, they may
be in Salt Lake City now, but they started out
in New Orleans with the great Pete Merrivich. Now we've
come full circle. Let's go back to the Oakland Raiders.
It all started in nineteen eighty two. This is one
of the more infamous departures in sports history because Al
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Davis moved the Raiders without the NFL's approval, said hell
with you, guys, I don't need your approval. He bolts
from Oakland, goes to Los Angeles. And here's what's interesting
about that, because Al wanted a stadium. So for the
folks who remember they never got their stadium, well Al
wanted one. What was that forty four years ago? And
(01:16:22):
so by eighty two he said, I'm out of here.
The Raiders had just won Super Bowl fifteen I think
it was, beating the Philadelphia Eagles twenty seven to ten leads.
The next year ends up in a notorious court battle
al Davis won. It was very awkward because then two
years later the LA Raiders beat the Redskins in Super
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Bowl eighteen. I think it was Pete Roselle, the very
guy had beat it in court, had to hand Al
Davis the Lombardi Trophy. Right, folks who remember the great
Colorado Avalanche teams, well they're still there. Well you know
Jersey Colorado. They're joined at the hip. And who can
forget the Baltimore Colts leaving by the cover of darkness
(01:17:07):
in the middle of the night with a bunch of
moving vans going from Baltimore to Indianapolis. So look, I'm
not justifying any of this. I am not listen. We're
just doing sports talk radio here. Sometimes I'm an encyclopedia
of useless information. I pay attention to things once it
gets into my mind. I learn it, I know it,
I remember it. I never forget anything. Mike Ross from
(01:17:30):
suits just the way I roll. So look what I
will remember are the somber faces. Are the good people
in Oakland watching that game on TV, having been to
that stadium. I know it's far from perfect, but what
a vibe and the memories. And that's the thing. When
you go to Wrigley Field, you can say, wow, Babe
Ruth stood in that box and if you got a
pulse and a heartbeat as a sports fan, that's going
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loves movies. Everybody loves talking about movies. Obviously, if you
love sports, as Bob cost this one said, if you
know baseball, you know rock and roll. If you like movies,
you typically like like sports, typically like pop culture, you
like movies. And that's why every time, every week, at
this time, one am Pacific, we have Breeze threes.
Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Not one, not two, but three.
Speaker 21 (01:19:04):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
It's entertainment. It's good. It's Breeze three.
Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
All right, take it away.
Speaker 30 (01:19:13):
Alrighty, So I'm gonna piggyback off of our midnight hour
topic and about the whole U n L V NIL controversy.
And I'm gonna start off and actually and also I'm
gonna mix it with the Oakland A's I'm gonna start
off with Moneyball since that so the topic really is
about revolving around money. I guess I should say that too.
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So I'm gonna go the twenty eleven classic. Aaron Sorkin
obviously wrote this screenplay. We all know Aaron Sorkin from
the West Wing, so it follow everybody knows. I followed
the two thousand and two Oakland A's and it starred
actually one of my favorite Brad Pitt movies in Moneyball.
I don't know about you, Bernie. I just felt like
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he was incredible playing Billy Bean.
Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
I thought he pulled it off. I mean, I know
the script was written written for him, but that's how
baseball talk sounds.
Speaker 30 (01:20:03):
Yeah, yeah, And so that was kind of the beginning
of just looking at metrics and analytics I think in baseball.
Speaker 29 (01:20:09):
So that was my first one, and then I went
with and So that's about saving money.
Speaker 30 (01:20:13):
Then I went Ocean's eleven with Stealing Money, the two
thousand and one classic with George Clooney and Brad Pitt.
I feel like that's a movie that everybody can like
watch over and over again. It's always on TV, and
I probably have memorized like eighty percent of that.
Speaker 29 (01:20:29):
Of that dialogue.
Speaker 30 (01:20:30):
And then the third movie I went was a little
bit random, and it was a nineteen ninety four movie
with Nicholas Cage and Bridget Fonda. It could Happen to You,
So a rom come you know about a police officer
who doesn't have cash, and he's at this little cute
diner and so him and the waitress like get along,
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and he was like, Okay, so I don't have a
tip or anything, but I'm gonna play the lottery and
if I win, I'll give you half. And I mean,
I feel like everybody kind of says that. I mean,
especially like office pools or if you're at seven eleven
and the person's really nice, you're like, Okay, if I win,
I'll give you half, or like for me, like my
joke is like okay, if if I like, if you win,
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just buy me at a beach house and then we'll
call it even, Like that's all I need. Any So,
Nicholas Cage actually wins the lottery and he actually goes
back to give the waitress half of his earning of
his winnings. So it kind of takes off from their
really adorable movie, really kind of funny, it's lighthearted. Rosy
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Perez is in it too. She kind of provides that
like a comedic relief. So I don't know if Bernie,
you've heard of that movie. Yeah, yeah, when.
Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
It first came out, I remember just moved to Michigan,
their family. And the thing is they were saying it
was based on a story.
Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
It was.
Speaker 29 (01:21:59):
It was based on a true story.
Speaker 30 (01:22:01):
And there wasn't a romance in it though, but in
actually the police officer was a regular at the diner
in New York was yeah, and so he was. It
was like place where they had like linguini and clam sauce,
and the waitress her actual name was Phyllis and so,
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and the same thing kind of happened, you know if
like the ship, the waitress actually helped him picked out
the numbers for the lotto card. So I mean it
kind of worked out. And then he did win the
six million dollars and he did split the winnings. Yes, yeah,
and so and so that was a true story that
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happened back in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
You know, Isaac Cayes was also in that movie.
Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yes he was.
Speaker 30 (01:22:48):
Yeah, so such out there so that though, So those
were my three. So I kind of based it, like
I said, around money, So Moneyball, saving money, Ocean's eleven,
stealing money. It could happen to you winning money. So
I try to hit each of them. So now I'm
gonna throw it over to.
Speaker 28 (01:23:05):
Mark so I'm gonna focus on My breeze three is
to be movies that I like, but maybe movies that
bree hasn't seen. Maybe she doesn't, maybe she's not aware
of some of these maybes. Well, so here we go.
My first breeze three is Taking of Pelham one two three.
That's a Walter Mathow Robert Shaw. Robert Shaw is from Jaws.
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He was Quinn, the ship guy. He was in that.
That was another heist movie taken with Pelham one two three.
Another one Thomas Crown Affair. That the one I'm thinking
about is in ninety nine, but it was a remake
in nineteen seventy eight with Steve McQueen Faye Dunaway, So
that's Pierce Brosnan. Renee Russo's in that. And then the
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one I was thinking about maybe you don't know about,
maybe you don't is the Sting with Paul Newman or
Robert Redford. So that's another question. And then my honorable mentions, uh,
Dog Day Afternoon and al Pacino that's a bank.
Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Thing that's also a weird one that's based on a true.
Speaker 28 (01:24:05):
Story, right, and then another one I was thinking about,
maybe you don't know this, Maybe you don't a fish
called Wanda, Jamie Lee Curtis and Kevin Klein and John Cleese,
maybe you know that about that? And then I was thinking,
maybe you don't know about Bonnie and Clyde, Warren Batty,
Faye Dunaway, and then another was thinking about Jackie Brown,
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Pam Grier, and the guy Robert Foster.
Speaker 7 (01:24:27):
So those are my.
Speaker 28 (01:24:30):
All the above taking appellam one two, three, Thomas Crown
Affair and the Sting. So those are my bunch and
my honorable mentions. And now this's throw it over to Kevin.
Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
Yeah, so two of mine are gonna be the same
as Breeze because I had to mix Baseball money Moneyball
absolutely fan It's one of my favorite baseball movies because
of one how well Brad Pitt didn't up portraying Billy
Bean too getting into the analytics, which when that movie
came out, a lot of pe people still didn't really
understand or get a full grasp of. And I thought
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they did a great job of kind of explaining exactly
the concept behind using analytics to build baseball team. So
I really like that and it really gave a good perspective.
Although my only gripe with that movie is that they
did not mention Barry Zito, Mark Mulder and Tim Hudson
having an outstanding year that year, enabling that Moneyball concept
to work at least on the offensive side of things.
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And the second movie, Ocean's Eleven, just because I like
watching that. To give myself to Losions a grandeur before
walking into a casino almost never works out, but it
does fire me up before I do make a trip
out there, and staying with the casino theme and making
money casino with Robert de Niro. Sharon Stone was in it,
and it was just about you know, how you keep
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the customers coming, how you keep that money flowing for
all activities that you might want to participate in, using
the teamsters money to help build your casinos, skimming it
the cashier's cage to Fundrome, Fundrome lifestyle. It was a
great movie and like how Joe Peshe at the end
suffered a fate that he had imposed on so many people.
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So those are my three Casino, Ocean's eleven in Moneyball,
all right.
Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
So before I dive into my three ever so quickly,
a couple thoughts on Moneyball, because I had actually read
the book and I really loved that movie and the
writing was superb. And the reason I know that is
because I know, damn well Brad Pitten never played baseball,
and I sure as hell know Jonah and by no
one's mentioning Jonah Hill, I thought he was tremendous. He
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plays a guy named Peter brand You got it. Yeah good.
Speaker 26 (01:26:37):
I'm a Dodger fan.
Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
I stole by Thunder, but I'm glad you did. And
I'm okay with that because I'll tell you why. I
think Paul Podesta very much was bothered because he looks
nothing like Jonah Hill. But that's his story for.
Speaker 26 (01:26:48):
A different Adrian Deltreel. I'll never forgive him for that.
Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
And then Philip Seymour Hoffman, you know, God rest his
soul as the manager. I mean, the conversations that took
place really sounded like real conversations. The writing was phenomenal,
and so Brad Pitt. They all pulled it off. Brad
Pitt and of course Jonah Hill and in Philip Seymour
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Hoffman top credit. But the writing was superb. It just
it clicked on so many levels for me. One of
my very favorite movies of all time. All Right, So
my three for the money. I got to start with
Wall Street, and all three of my movies have a theme.
They have exquisite, incredible casts with really epic actors. At
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Wall Street, Charlie Sheen and of course Michael Douglas, Greed
is good, Gordon Gecko a great movie name. Charlie Sheen
plays Bud Fox, this young up and coming and of
course his dad, Martin Sheen is also when the movie,
plays his dad in the movie, and it really talks
about how bad some people want success, but at what cost?
So I thought, well, I mean, wal Wall Street is
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purely about money. The second one a little more lighthearted.
I bet it holds up today. Trading Places with dan Aykroyd,
Eddie Murphy, Billy Ray, Valentine Capricorn. Right, I mean, great movie,
funny movie, you know, feeling good, Billy Ray looking good, Lewis,
you know, I mean, just really good, funny movie. But
it also tells a story that sometimes if people had
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opportunity they might not have had, what might they do
with it? And we'll have a roundtable around. I'm sure
you guys know about trading places. You have to the
other one. This one's a little obscure, but I got
to tell you it has in fact become an absolute
cult classic over the years. It came out in nineteen
ninety two. The movie is called Glen Garry Glenn Ross
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again a tremendous I would call it a you know,
an ensemble.
Speaker 7 (01:28:45):
Cast, great writing too, Like you said.
Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Well, it's set a record. They used the F bomb
one hundred and forty four times in the movie.
Speaker 26 (01:28:54):
Sounds like my kind of movie one hundred and forty
four times.
Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
And I remember walking out of the movie. Well later
is muttering the war has lost its effectiveness, not least
it so much. Anyway. You start out with Alec ball
when I don't like but that opening speech when he
pulls up at the BMW and double parks with the rain.
You know, you get a set of state guns, but
you've got al Pacino, Jack Lemon, Alec ball Ed, Harris
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alan Ark, and Kevin Spacey. And it's about these real
estate salesman in New York and the pressure's on because
all but two are going to lose their job at
the end of the week. And they all got personal
stories where they really need the money. And it's like
whoa everybody's ever worked for a company that they think
is going on a business. You get their little pit
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in your stomach, whatever the case may be. And so
what it does is, you know, one guy's trying to
get better leads and the other you know. And one
thing I should note about the movie. It was Screenplayers
by David mammontt And if you know anything about David Mammont,
David has nothing but a phenomenal background of work, really
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intense tremi this movies The Untouchables, The Spanish Prisoner, Wagged
the Dog, The Verdict, really heavy duty movies that make
you think. So those are my three Wall Street Trading
Places with Dan Aykroyd and Eddie Murphy and then Glengarry
Glenn Ross.
Speaker 26 (01:30:16):
Greed is good.
Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
That's Gordon Gecko.
Speaker 26 (01:30:21):
Not that I believe that, but iconic line.
Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
It was a movie I will a lot of people
do believe that. Yeah, I mean again the famous speech
that that Michael Douglas has Gordon Gecko makes when he leaves.
These are movies that have stood the test of time,
I believe because of partly because of the actors, but
then the characters they created, the storylines. But then of
course quotes from the movie.
Speaker 30 (01:30:44):
I loved Trading Places. I was gonna say, I thought
that was a great one. I love, I love, I
just love Eddie Murphy in that time just was awesome
around that.
Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
That was really really the pinnacle of his career. You know.
He had a bunch of comedies starting with that, you know,
Beverly Hills Cop and such any final thoughts by the crew, and.
Speaker 30 (01:31:01):
Then going back to Mark's movies. So I actually love
this sting. My dad and I watched that probably about
like ten years ago for the first time, so I
think I've watched it at least like two or three times.
Speaker 29 (01:31:11):
Love that movie. And then the Taking of palam one
two three.
Speaker 30 (01:31:14):
I only saw the two thousand and nine one, okay,
I didn't see the nineteen seventy something, right, yeah, and
then the other ones I did not see.
Speaker 29 (01:31:23):
Of your less so you were right.
Speaker 7 (01:31:25):
Thomas Crown, Thomas Crown Affair, yeah yeah, and Dog.
Speaker 28 (01:31:28):
Day Afternoon was a bank thing, and Fish Call one
it was just another heist.
Speaker 7 (01:31:33):
And Bonnie and.
Speaker 28 (01:31:33):
Clyde there's two robbers I think in the thirties or
forties during during the depression time. And Jackie Brown is
another got Samuel Jackson. Robert Denair was also in it,
but that was another like stealing Monday, stealing money, switcheroo
kind of thing, just to trying to get money away
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from a guy that they would have you know, Samuel's
Jackson's character would have needed some money. Oh was owed
some money. He was trying to get it and they
were trying to maneuver it around so they didn't have
to give it back to him.
Speaker 29 (01:32:05):
And then Bonnie and Clyde I did see Okay, forgot
about that one. Okay, yeah, so awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
So what it's fourth? Can I can do one thing?
Speaker 4 (01:32:11):
So?
Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Who mentioned the sting that might take the cake? Everybody
take a guess how many Academy Awards the sting won.
Speaker 7 (01:32:22):
Take a guess did it run the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Did it get all overbody throw?
Speaker 29 (01:32:28):
I'm going to say five, Chef, I'll go ten.
Speaker 7 (01:32:33):
Mark, I do like Price is right eleven sixteen.
Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Best Picture, Best Director.
Speaker 9 (01:32:40):
Bet.
Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
First of all, it holds up because again they're writing
in the dialogue and Redford and Newman were just the
bomb digity, let's face it, and it takes place and
I went, I think nineteen twenties to Chicago and Robert
Shaw who was Chief Eye, and I don't know. He
was in Jaws the Shipman. He's swallowed by Jaws and
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and they con him. It's a it's one con after
another and it it's so clever, and it's a period piece.
So you know, if you like movies where they showed
the old cars at that time and the music at
that time, and the and the clothing of that time,
that's all part of it. That's why it's sweats. So
I won sixteen Academy Awards, so great research by everybody,
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a great job and uh, you got the light.
Speaker 30 (01:33:27):
So I mean, if anybody has any other movies that
we might have missed, definitely tweet at Fox Sports Radio
and at your handle, Bernie Beef, Bernie Fratto. It's just
nice and easy for you, so feel free to tweet
in any that we might have missed. I think Dirty
Rotten Scoundrels was kind of good too, that I just
thought of right now.
Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Michael Kain, Yeah, that that either agetting another another sort
of a con con man.
Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
I forget through out one last one. It's about to go.
Reservoir Dogs is another good movie.
Speaker 26 (01:33:57):
Class I forget that. I can't believe I didn't think
of that one.
Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
You know, The thing is though, and and of course
the judges will allow it, but do we really categorize
Reservoir Dogs as as a money movie?
Speaker 26 (01:34:11):
I mean we can.
Speaker 7 (01:34:12):
We can well the emphasis of what they are griminals, emphasis.
Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
They want to carry out a robbery. I get it.
Speaker 28 (01:34:17):
Yeah, so that was basically about and then so so
we just see the aftermath of what happened after the incident.
Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
We see what you think involving Quentin Tarantino.
Speaker 28 (01:34:28):
Come on, man, we just yeah, we just see the
incident of what happened after somebody got hurt, and then
you get a cop in the room and torture and
just things and just that, you know, Quintantino's a dialogue.
Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Just you know, you got Harvey Kaitel, who's a whack job.
You get Steve ou Shamy who's a whack job. Quentin Tarantino,
who's a whack job. That movie's just I mean, it's
one of those deals, right.
Speaker 7 (01:34:52):
Michael Madson he was a madman.
Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Toothpick he was, he was They're all they're all crazy.
I mean that that movie it struck a chord with
like cult movie goers. I mean, let's just face it.
You're right, and I gotta plead guilty. I might not
categorize that as a money movie per se.
Speaker 6 (01:35:11):
But I maybe put Scarface out there is another one,
why not al Pacino.
Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
There's a few f bombs in that movie.
Speaker 6 (01:35:19):
Too, Slipping a drug lord in Miami, I mean, yeah,
no better way to make money than that, Right now.
Speaker 30 (01:35:28):
That opens a whole other thing of just like money,
cartel and drugs. Right Like, that's like a whole other
like second genre. Lie there, you can go so many directions,
you really can.
Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Thanks guys, right, great job by everybody, great research, and
fortunately we have three real movie buffs on this show,
and I think that kind of makes the discussion flow
because you really have everybody's seen these movies. These movies
affected you in a certain way and to the point
where they're kind of logged in your memory. Bank. Football fans,
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All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show. Fox Sports
Radio got a very interesting tweet from a gentleman named
Donald E. McLoud said, love the show tonight. Interesting side
note check this out. I was the gorilla on the
train in trading places. Also the gorilla from the American
tourist or luggage ats. WHOA. Now that's something that is
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saying something I don't know. I guess unless you if
you're trying to get working movies, you end up getting
tight catches at gorilla. Maybe that's not a good thing,
But I remember those. I remember both those things. So
something I always appreciate when people take them time to
tweet and listen to the show, give us her thoughts.
Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago about taking calls
during the midnight or check that during the movie. Said,
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I don't want to do that, but everybody's free to
weigh in on Twitter. You had a movie or a
thought or the subject matter or remember this, you guys
left that one out. That stuff's all good, all right?
In just a few hours, here a very full slate
of college football. There are three games I'm most interested in.
I mean, we'll start with the obvious one, Georgia Alabama.
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It's the biggest game of the twenty twenty four season.
You got an SEC show down between these two knuncleheads.
Interestingly enough, the first time they've played in a regular
season game since twenty twenty because they're usually playing for
the SEC championship. They even play for the national championship
one season. It'll be Kaitlin Debora's first test in Alabama. Boy,
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I know there's high hopes Saban own Georgia. We'll see
if Kaitlyn de bor can do it. The second game,
obviously that I'm most interested is in Las Vegas. I
want to see what happens if UNLV can keep the
magic going. Fresno State has been a thorn in their side.
They've beaten him six times in a row. You know,
you found itself as the center of attention in college
football this week because they're starting quarterback Matthew Sluca announced
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he will sit out in red shirt the rest of
the season and then they'll ender the transfer portal, and
that stirred up plenty of controversy and fallout. Obviously, the
nil deals will now become part of a national conversation,
and people wonder is it's going to happen more. I
don't know, but UNLV he's going to have to block
out the noise. They got a you know, their new
starting quarterback, Hodge Malik Williams, who transferred in from Campbell
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and he lost the job to Matts Luca and Fresno
State's no slots man. They went into Michigan played them
head up. Except for that pick six, that thirty to
ten score really felt more like a twenty three to
seventeen score. Fresno State was on the on the goal line.
But there should be drama. There's already been drama off
the field this week for UNOV. There should be plenty
of drama on the field. Speak of a drama. You
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can't tell me you can take your eyes off Colorado.
They traveled to UCF, and you saw how that Colorado
game ended last week and the double Hail Mary. He
looked there three and one. Two years ago, they'd won
one game, the worst team in college football. Last year
they won four and I didn't. I still think they're
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gonna win five or six. But that's just me. UCF
is going to be a tough, tough draw. That's gonna
be a tough put for them. They're UCS favored by fourteen.
They can run the ball like crazy, and Colorado cannot
stop the run. I can see no way Colorado wins
that game. But I'm not laying the point. I'm not
taking the points. I'll just be a fanboy. With those
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three games. Later on this afternoon on Saturday, coming up,
we've got Chris profets World Soccer for first, we'll go
back to our guy, the chef, Kevin Wired with the
sting review.
Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
Yeah, speaking of drama, we had plenty of that at
the end of the game. Down in South Florida.
Speaker 25 (01:40:20):
Roads makes drops looks looks still looking fires for the
end zone.
Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Juggling around.
Speaker 25 (01:40:30):
It's no loose touchdown.
Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
We're gonna throlling a touchdown.
Speaker 26 (01:40:34):
They're gonna roll in a touchdown.
Speaker 16 (01:40:35):
You have to fund the review.
Speaker 32 (01:40:37):
The roaming on the field, the little Jenny's reverse, it's
an interestlete cut.
Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
A winning moment for the University of Miami.
Speaker 6 (01:40:45):
Miami Sports Network there with the call as the seventh
ranked Hurricanes hold off that Virginia Tech hail Mary to
win at thirty eight to thirty four.
Speaker 26 (01:40:52):
Look like the Hokies might have won.
Speaker 6 (01:40:54):
It was ruled a complete pass on a touchdown, but
upon further review, it was determined the receiver was out
of so the pass ruled incomplete and the Hurricanes get
the victory. Rutgers is undefeated four now and they get
their first win in the Big Ten, beating Washington twenty
one to eighteen, as the Huskies now three and two,
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one in one in their first go round in a
Big Ten play in the NBA. A huge trade going
down on Friday night. ESPN the first to report the
Knicks acquiring Karl Anthony Towns from the Timberwolves in exchange
for Julius Randall and Donovan Devincenzo Minnesota will also receive
a twenty twenty five top thirteen protected first round pick
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from New York via the Pistons and the Charlotte Hornets,
reportedly the third team the deal that will receive draft
competition for helping make this trade happen. In Major League Baseball,
Marlin's manager Skip Schumacher reportedly will not return next season,
and he informed his team of the news after the
team's fifteen to five win against the Blue Jays on
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Friday night. As for the other action on the diamond
the White Sox setting a new record for futility one
hundred and twenty one losses. That is the modern record,
although the Cleveland Spiders did lose one hundred and thirty
nine back in eighteen eighty nine, but at least for
the modern era, it is the White Sox beating the
nineteen sixty two Mets for that record, losing the Tigers
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four to one. Elsewhere in Major League Baseball, Cardinals over
the Giant sixty three, Mariner shout out the Athletics to nothing,
Padres over the Diamondbacks five to three in an NL
West battle, Rangers top of the Angels five to two,
and the.
Speaker 26 (01:42:36):
Brewers hold off the Mets eight to four. Back to you, Bernie.
Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
All right, Jeff, good stuff, Thanks Man. A little later
in the show, we talked about history being set with
the Oakland as in our last game, and Shohiotani's making
history every damn day. Aaron Judge, the Chicago White Sox,
of course, made history on Friday night, the losing his
team in the history of Major League Baseball. Well, Caitlin
Clarks made some history too, and I'm going to share
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with you the proof of the Caitlin Clark effect again
for the emptieenth time on something happened last week on Sunday,
Game one between the Fever and the Connected Sun. But
first we go to Chris Perffet's World of Soccer.
Speaker 31 (01:43:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Aim, It's all here in this report from the World
of Soccer, Ernie.
Speaker 32 (01:43:35):
Before we get going, congratulations to the Detroit Tigers, ten
years in the making to return to the Major League
Baseball Playoffs. It's been a long time for the Tigers,
a team I know you and I both dearly care
about part of the rich fabric of Detroit sports, and
I've covered it for a very long time, usually on
the case of the Detroit Lions, but I would also
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be remiss if I wouldn't help take this time to
also point out another bound team, which is Detroit City
FC in the city itself. Detroit City is a squad
that has meant a lot to me. Yes, they don't
play in the MLS, they don't play at the top
level what we have considered the top level of American soccer,
but they have worked themselves up to the USL Championship,
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the top level outside of MLS. In the USL's kind
of counter pyramid system that it's had more grassroots grown
for clubs rather than owners who pay half a billion
dollars for the rights to own a club as is
the MLS model. And Detroit City came up from basically
nothing from local businessmen in the metro Detroit area in
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down setting up a club in downtown Detroit back when
they were just playing in the NPSL, which was semi professional.
They were getting guys who had just been mostly with
experience playing college and couldn't kick it on professional clubs
anywhere else. And with time, sweat, energy, and a lot
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a lot of fan support, Detroit City grew up to
the USL Championship a few years ago, almost from nothing,
and that is the magic of soccer when it is grassroots,
and it is something that I think when we talk
so much about the top level, which we wont to
do here, even on the world of soccer, we sometimes
miss that soccer is ultimately a game of the people,
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by the people for the people, and supporters are a
huge part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
You look at the.
Speaker 32 (01:45:30):
Lower levels of English soccer, you look at the USL
of American soccer, you will find smaller towns, cities who
have been passed over for MLS plenty of times, as
Detroit has. There's been plenty of attempts by Dan Gilbert
and Tom Gores to bring a MLS team to Detroit
and they've been rebuffed. And a lot of that is
because well, Detroit has a team, Detroit City, which has
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always been very strong. They are probably bound for the
USL Championship playoffs, not hard to do. They're currently sitting
forth going into this weekend and the top eight clubs
in USL Championship all get to go. But just another
facet of the city of champions that Detroit aspires to
once again become with the Detroit Tigers and the Lions potentially,
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and of course hoping to see a turnaround for the
Detroit Red Wings the Pistons.
Speaker 26 (01:46:22):
Not so much.
Speaker 32 (01:46:24):
And now from there to Spain, let's talk about the
first real test coming up here for Real Madrid. I know,
I'm not talking about a Classico this early. I'm talking
about their other derby against Atletico lad let it Coo
and Real Madrid. We'll face off here on Sunday. And
it's been something of an interesting start to the season
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for Real Madrid, who we kept talking about before the
season that they were rich and they were simply getting richer,
bringing in Killian Embappe the French phenom, and overhauling the
roster with so many young talents all around them that
they had been percolating for so long. And I think
the onus at that time was on the case of
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their longtime rival Barcelona to prove that they could not
could be the real ones to compete and hold serve
against what Real Madrid is doing. However, seven games in
to the La Liga series, that's not really been the case.
There's been two draws for Real Madrid, whereas Barcelona is
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undefeated and on a win streak seven straight wins, giving
them an early four point lead over Real Madrid. And
in La Liga between these two clubs, well we know
that year and year after time after time, those kind
of small point differences are usually what damn one of
the clubs over another.
Speaker 1 (01:47:48):
At Letiko is not to be overlooked either.
Speaker 32 (01:47:50):
At Lettiko is at fifteen points coming into this competition
as well, right on the heels of Real Madrid.
Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
But the story is with Real Madrid. This is a
club that has really struggled.
Speaker 32 (01:48:01):
To get Killian and Bape going right now, and unfortunately
the Frenchman was injured in the last match against Alaves
on Tuesday night. He kind of gestured to the bench
for a change, came out and it was announced that
he was injured. So they're already down a phenom to hear.
So Real Madrid will look to Jude Bellingham perhaps Connor
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Gallagher to really get going, and the team really needs
a shot in the arm to really start to show
that they are dominant. And again Atletico is no pushover.
This is a team that just about thirty games ago
knocked Real Madrid out of the Copa del Rey and
as we know, Spanish Darby's are not to be taken
lightly at all. Meanwhile, it's time for someone to maybe
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stop Christian Pulisic. It's been some time in the wilderness
for Captain America, the man who has been long waited
to show why he is as dominant as American fans
believe he is, and he hasn't really brought that Sometimes
in Europe, however, with ac Milan, he has shown that
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he seems to be coming about just fine. As on Friday,
Milan took a three noo win over Lesse and Christian
pulis has scored in that game, and that is the
first time in his career he has scored in five
straight matches. Yes, it seems that Milan has been able
to figure out what Chelsea and English sides have not,
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how to put Pulisitic out there, how to get him
in a position to make the plays and scores. They
scored three goals in five minutes before the half, getting
off to a flying start, and Milan needs the firepower,
especially in a very competitive start to the Italian Seria.
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It's early season. It's hard to take any results from
what the table looks like right now. I don't believe
to Reno will remain undefeated, certainly, nor do I think
they'll remain at the top of the table. And when
the shakeup is all said and Milan will be there
as will there very heated rivals with Internazional monopoly is
showing that they're sticking around and this could be the
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year that we finally see Uventus return to prominence now
that a lot of their points deductions are finally passed
in the rear view window, and we'll see if Lazio,
who has really been trying to put it together in
the past two years, can really finally do just that
and try to actually make a break for the studetto.
But for now, a lot to be seen in Milan,
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still the cream of the crop and with Christian Pulisic
leading the charge.
Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
That's it for this week, Bernie. We'll see you next
time on the World of Soccer.
Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
And as Chris mentioned, shout out to the Detroit Tigers,
the team I covered many years, still got my credential,
but I will well, let's just put it this way.
Ten years playoffs drought and they were fifty five and
sixty three. On August eleventh, they were five hundred and
one to get to the World Series them Now coming up, Well,
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Tiger's made history, and Johio Tony made history, and the
White Sox made history and Soded Aaron Judge and so
the Oakland A's. Well guess who else made history again?
For the young teeth time last Sunday, I'll explain. Coming up,
I'm Bernie Frattle. We are coming to your line from
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All right, wrapping it up on the Bernie Frattle Show
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Great job by everybody. Awesome teamwork and onward and upward.
That's how we keep the show on the air with
the broadcast team back in Los Angeles. And by the way,
I'll be back on these airwaves later on tonight, Saturday night,
eleven pm Pacific time. We'll take you up to three am,
full slate of stuff, including fresh editions of a kind
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of brand new FOOLU and what my Name? We'll have
a college football slate to break down. We'll see what
happens in that Colorado game. We'll see what happens in
that Bama game. We'll see what happens in that UNLV
President State game. There's a lot of other quality games too.
Those are the ones that got my eye. We have
Steve Hezig gone for the PHYSI five breaking them down.
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The NFL card for Sunday. We got Medina Magic, major
trade in the NBA on Friday. We've got to talk
about that Saturday night, of course, and as well as
all the usual hijinks, there's a lot of trends in
the NFL. You know, you've really got to be on
your p's and q's. NFL underdogs of more than five
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and a half points are ridiculous. Fourteen and two against
the number this season so far. People like to bet,
everybody likes to talk about it on our shows. And
by the way, you may not have noticed the NFL
is experiencing something and hasn't for twenty years. There's less passing.
For years, it was just nothing but a pass happy league,
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and before that had been ground and pounds. So now
all of a sudden, now you're going back thirty years
in terms of how teams run the ball. After the
first two weeks, three weeks, what we've witnessed the fewest
touchdown passes since twenty oh six. You know, designed run
plays versus past you know, we'll talk about the changing
landscape of the NFL. So we've got all that coming
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up Saturday night, eleven pm being Pacific. There's even more
proof of the Caitlin Clark effect. This is not worth debating.
The Caitlin Clark effect is real. It has been real,
and it is real on the WNBA. Whether some people
like it or not, it's real. ESPN announced that last
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Sunday's game won between the Indy n Fever again Caitlin Clark,
that team was nowhere near the playoffs. The year before
Caitlin Clark joined the team, they make the playoffs. I
think that's a coincidence. They played the Connecticut Sun in Connecticut.
The attendance the game was shown on ABC right in
the middle of the NBA NFL Sunday competing against the
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NFL games had to head averaged one point eight million
viewers tipped off at three thirty Eastern time on Sunday.
It made it the league's most watch playoff game in
twenty four years. That was the finals contest in the
WNBA and the most watched playoff game on ESPN platforms. Ever,
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despite simultaneously with the NFL's Week three games, you're going
up against the full NFL s late, you still draw
one point eight million viewers. Now that number actually more
than doubles the average viewership that you have for WNBA playoffs,
which is right around seven und twenty thousand. And that
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average viewership was during the finals last year, the twenty
twenty three WNBA Finals, as the Las Vegas Aces were
in the midst of repeating right so well, the Fever
Sun contest hit a playoff viewership record. Well, they weren't
the only They weren't the only playoff game in the WNBA.
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There were three other games on that day on ESPN
and they all averaged around four hundred thousand viewers. By
the way, those games were down from the average four
hundred and eighty thousand during the playoffs in twenty twenty three,
because again you're going up against the NFL. In those
games didn't have Caitlin Clark. The game that had Caitlin
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Clark one point eight million games, it didn't have Caitlin
Clark four hundred thousand. And the Caitlin Clark game more
than doubles what was going on in the finals in
the WNBA for twenty twenty three when they jumped up
to about seven hundred and twenty thousand, and we're not
talking about slotch teams. The one PM contest between the
Atlanta Dream and the New York Liberty drew about four
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hundred and ten thousand viewers. And I got to believe
the Liberty is their hell bent on repeating. They'll call
it the Unfinished Business Store. They open up Sunday against
the Las Vegas Aces, who are going for a three peat.
The game will be in New York, and well, I'll
be curious to see what that game draws compared to
the Caitlin Clark game one point eight million. By the way,
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the Phoenix Mercury and Minnesota links to other very good
teams averaged about four hundred and three thousand viewers. And
then the nightcap, which was played Sunday night here in
Las Vegas, the Aces against the Seattle Storm drew about
four hundred and sixty one thousand viewers. Still dramatically, it's
twenty five percent of what the game Caitlin Clark was drawing.
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I am then told that Wednesday night, game two of
Caitlin Clark's WNBA playoff, they set another record on Wednesday night.
And you know, it's sometimes it's kind of foolish just
to come on the radio and give a bunch of numbers.
They start to jumble together. But to make the point
of the Caitlin Clark effect, you cannot not give numbers.
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That's just the fact, because the numbers really tell the
story of what's going on. It's not just an imagined situation.
The Caitlin Clark effect is real. It's been incredibly successful
season for the WNBA, not just because of Kitlin Clark.
But let's let's call it like we see it, and
the numbers don't lie. She had a dramatic effect on
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the season and she's only getting better. And I think
the league is on a rizon. They should get behind
Caitlin Clark, because it's proven to produce numbers. I'll be
back on these airwaves Saturday night, eleven pm Pacific. Until then,
we'll see you in the meantime. Keep it locked up.
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