June 9, 2026 • 39 mins
On this edition of The Best of Stugotz and Company LIVE!: Stugotz and the guys react to the result of game 3 of the NBA Finals as the Spurs creep back into the series with a win. The guys respond to a report about a missed foul on Victor Wembanyama. Stugotz and the fellas have a spirited discussion about Draymond Green's role on the dynastic Warriors and how the Knicks are now drawing a line in the sand with Wemby. Plus, Stu and company feature Board Op Ricardo's list of the 50 shows he believes is better than Breaking Bad.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We are a wounded group today.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
By group, I mean me and Taylor.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
As the Knicks lose last night at the Mecca, the
series now two games to one, we have ourselves a series.
Here Israel Goudieirez, who was trying to make himself a
Knicks fan, seems to suddenly try to or at least
from the conversation we had before the show, is trying
to distance himself from the New York Knicks and their
fan base. But we'll get to that in just a second.
(00:51):
What were your thoughts the big I guess the big
complaint from Nick fans last night. Mike Brown lent his
voice to it after the show, and we'll play that
in just a second. What were your thought the officiating
last night?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Is he I think for the entire series it feels
like it's uneven officiating. I would even go back, not
necessarily the Eastern Conference Finals, but include the Western Conference
finals in this conversation. So anything involving Wemby for the
last two rounds has been uneven officiating. There have been
times where I'm just like, that's clearly a foul and
it doesn't even matter which team I'm talking about. It
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doesn't you know, the foul isn't getting called. There are
other times, I mean there I feel like the guy
who has the biggest complaint of everybody in this series
is Stefan Castle, who feels I feel like he gets
fouled multiple times every time he drives and very rarely
gets the call, and he has been holding back on
how he can react. If he decides to unleash, it's
going to be a bad thing for the Knicks and.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
For the officials.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
And so yeah, I think it's been uneven officiating. I
think when you get to this point, it feels like
over the last couple of years to that officials have
been going more hands off the deeper they get into
the playoffs. Yes, and that to me is a problem. Right,
It's like, we have to be consistent with how we
call these games. Don't make it more difficult just because
we're deeper into the playoffs, be consistent with the entire
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series and so or entire playoffs. And so last night
I thought, yes, if you were to just look at
it this one single game, it looked like the officials
maybe favored the Spurs. Maybe the Knicks got away with
the few i'm sorry, the Spurs got away with some
fouls and the Knicks that weren't.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Whistled at all.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And if you look at the final numbers to field
goals made for the series so far, the Knicks have
eight more okay field goals attempted. You know, they're basically
trying to put up more shots because they're not getting
to the free throw line as much. And on the
free throw line, the Spurs have a seven i'm sorry,
the Spurs have a twenty three free throw advantage for
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the series. And so when you're down two to one
and you're the Spurs, when you look at those free
throws numbers, you can't help but say, yes, we've been
benefiting from the whistle. But just watching the game, it
just looks like the refs are just having a hard
time period.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
And is he that that twenty three advantage on the
free throw line doesn't even account for some of those
free throws that the Knicks are taking are the hack
of Mitch Robinson where the Spurs are intentionally putting him
on the line.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, for sure and so but the other thing about
that is if you look at Victor Wembinyama and we
talked about you talked about it in the previous series, right, Taylor,
it feels like they don't know how to call a
goaltend against him because they've never really dealt with the
ballgatting blocked.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
We've never seen anything like him before in the NBA.
Of of course, he's hard to officiate.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
He's got so much body that it's hard to see
when his body is getting contacted. Like Mitch Johnson even
had to pull a similar to Mike Brown on that
three point and one attempt by Victor wembin Yama had
to challenge an out of bounce call just so you
can see how badly Victor Wembinyama was getting fouled. And so, Yes,
(03:50):
in general, I believe the officiating two have been bad.
Do I think that it's favoring one team.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
More over the other?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I can't really say, because it's possible the Spurs deserve
even more whistles.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Then they've gotten.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Taylor put it on the poll.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Every time the camera pans over to Mitch Johnson, do
you think he's going in for Stefan Castle?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The guy looks like he's twenty five years old. Man
does it looks like he can play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Let's listen to Karl Anthony Towns after the game talking
about the officiating.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
No, I ain't cost us a game, turned the ball over,
didn't execute, didn't do what got us thirteen straight wins
in a row. That's how you lose the game. We
didn't do what we didn't doing for thirteen. We decided
to do something different. It ain't gonna work and I'm
throwing the ball away. Is a clear indication of how
you're going to lose a game, especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
All right, So that's Karl Anthony's town Karl Anthony Towns'
version of it. Here is Knicks head coach Mike Brown
talking about the officiating.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
If we play Game four and in the second half
they get twenty four free throw attempts tar eight and
maybe we were fouling. Maybe we were fouling, but they
fouled too. Can't get the ball off of loose ball
rebound and he shoots it and he gets whacked across
the arm and they hit the ball and it goes
out of bounds on the baseline. There's no foul. There
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were opportunities for fouls to be called to at least
try to even the free throws out to go twenty
four free throw attempts in the second half. That's forty eight.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
For the game.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
If you think about it, the way that they called
that second half, compared to eight all the shots we took,
we got fouled four times roughly for eight free throw temps. Again,
I don't complain much. I never thought i'd see that
in an NBA Finals game, and I saw it tonight.
It's tough to overcome when you're playing against a great team.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He doesn't complain much, but he should complain more because
he's not good at it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He needs to practice.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I hear both of those that I hear Karl
Anthony town saying what a player who had a bad
game should be saying. Right, I'm not going to blame
the officials, not going to blame the referees.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And then I hear a coach and this should be
obvious to most people.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Because Mike Brown's getting killed today for complaining about the
officiating right after that game, as if that's the reason
they lost.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He's not doing that. He knows the Spurs out played
him last night. What he is doing is laying down
a foundation for game four.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
That's all really though, purely, because all he's doing is
bringing out the numbers. If you're trying to lay a foundation,
then say then say, hey, Cat got filed on this play.
Cat got filed on this play. Cat got filed on
this play. He deserves more calls. Jalen got fouled on
this play. He deserves more calls. Don't go give me
the math, because the math for a half, stew the
whole game wasn't even that bad. You're talking about a half,
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you're just picking a time. It's nonsense. And so yeah,
and the funny part about the Cat quote isn't necessarily
the fact that he completely contradicted his coach, But when
he went into further detail, he's not only contradicting his coach,
he's saying, hey, we got away from what we were doing, Stu,
what were they doing? He was the MVP through two games, right, yes,
and then he said throwing the ball away. He was
(06:48):
essentially saying, give the ball back to me, correct and
take it away from whom the guy who was throwing
the ball away, who had five turnovers. Yes, Jalen Bruni,
if this team hadn't just won thirteenth straight, you would say, hey,
maybe there's some internal issues going on.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Yeah, So, dating back to last postseason, New York is
fourteen to zero. When Karl Anthony Towns has four or
more assists in a game, Jalen Brunson this postseason or
this series has as many turnovers as assists, And I
think Jalen Brunson would be the first person today that
would tell you he has to play better. The one
encouraging thing how people took encouraging signs from Game two
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that the Spurs would play better in Game three was
Jalen Brunson in that fourth quarter where you see the flashes,
where you see him score twelve points that quarter. You
see the player that Knicks fans have kind of gotten
to know the past couple of years, like if we're
in crunch situations, if we're in clutch situations, this is
gonna be the guy that comes through for us. Where
he's four or six from the field. And while I
(07:50):
think the officiating was bad, While I think the officiating
was slanted one side, ultimately, Stu, you know this, it's
a make or miss league. The Knicks are twelve and
one when they outshoot their opponent from three, two and
two when they don't. From the field, it's thirteen and
oh one in three when they don't.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
It's even what you're talking about with the Karl Anthony
Towns assists number. That's entirely dependent on mak or miss.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He could hit wide open people and they could still
miss that shot. So it is very much that it's
make or miss. But it does feel a little annoying,
not as a Knicks fan, but as a bona fide
New Yorker. You're yesterday when you're putting up more shots,
and you're making more shots, and you're just not getting
to the free throw line enough. That's the difference in
this thing. It feels like, as a basketball player, a
(08:35):
little unfair, even if it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I have to follow the face of mikey A. He's
always making faces. You were making faces as tailor was
talking what was going on there.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I'm a son, I have three brothers, I have two kids,
I have a dog and a loving wife.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Man, nobody loves me the way Taylor loves you. I
don't know he will.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Like honestly, listen, he'll be the first to tell you
that he needs to play like. It's just there's just
such an unquestioned love for him, and I just I'm
jealous because nobody loves me.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, he's written five songs.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Four wasn't enough, and he said Jalen Brunton has changed
his life and so therefore he's going to defend Jalen
Brunson until the very end here, until they lose, and
then he'll turn on them.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You'll see, raise your hand if you're a son, Oh
that's all us. Raise your hand, if you have a dog,
that's some of us.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh sorry, is he.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You got it? You got it too soon?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is he who wanted to be a Knick fan yesterday
when they were up to oh and it was convenient
and they look like maybe the best team effort to
run through the postseason because they had one thirteen straight,
is now disgusted by the Knicks and their fan base
because they were getting all over San Antonio's fan base
yesterday after that loss.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What happened is he man. First of all, I was
just trying to be accepted by the Knicks face. I
didn't want to necessarily become a Knicks fan project yes rejected.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And the way he tried to do it was to
point out that his grandmother's building in New York was
once in a movie, amongst other things.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
By the way, Taylor, you got to give me the
stamp if you're rejecting it. That was one thing he was.
My grandmother's building was in the scene of the movie
Boomerang where Eddie Murphy and Halle Berry were walking down
the street a famous seed. And they also lived most
of their lives and died in New York. And I
was also born in New York, so plenty of bona
fides there. But I saw the video, multiple videos rather
(10:29):
of Knicks fans effectively going to rip off the shirts
of the jerseys of Spurs fans, and that to me
is just such a line crosser, like you do not
do that to another person. You have to give the
posing teams fans the freedom to exist in your space
like you can't be, especially as a Knicks fan, where
(10:51):
you see Knicks fans be in every other building all
across the country, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, we're representing.
And yet when they come represent in your place, you're
going to rip off or attempt to rip off their
jerseys and get these people even more upset at you.
Ye shout out to Real Takes Reviews who had this point.
I think he is a Philadelphia guy on Instagram where
he said Knicks fans are what people think Philadelphia fans
(11:14):
actually are and Taylor, I'm sorry, but this is one
hundred percent true because I would rather watch a crazy
Sixers fan or a Philly fan eat his own poop
then I would see this nonsense and just disrespecting another
human like that.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
New York City has more than eight million people. Miami
has fewer than five hundred thousand people. So I just
I just don't agree with you know, spare me the
attempts to paint an entire city based on a video
of a few fans fighting after Game three. You're gonna
you're gonna have idiots doing idiotic things when you have
a city of eight million people. That's not a but.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
It's multiple, multiple videos, multiple people doing it, the people
watching cheering them on. That's a good portion of a
fan base. It's like that doesn't represent everybody. Of course,
and I don't really know where Miami came into this,
but that doesn't represent everybody. But again, I don't see
this in Philadelphia. I don't see this in Golden State
when they're winning. I don't see this anywhere else. It's here,
(12:12):
and it's supported in those videos by.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
A bunch of just annoying folks.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He said when they're winning, which is a good point, tailor,
that was their reaction. They're up two games to one
in the series. Imagine if they lose a Game six
at home and they lose the NBA Championship, how they're
going to act around Spurs fans who decided to come
into town to see that game. He is right from
that standpoint. I would also tell Philadelphia fans, relax, this
is not your moment to attack New York and their
(12:39):
fan bases, okay, because yours is the worst in the country.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Period.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You cheered a man who was almost paralyzed being carried
off a football field, Michael Irvin, the playmaker. I do
not want to hear you threw eggs at your offensive
coordinator's house. The guy won you a Super Bowl a
year or two before. I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
From Phillis offering him some eggs because they're expensive, and
they're like, here, you might need these, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We're also offering Santa batteries apparently.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Again, Taylor, I don't mean to make it sound like
I am, you know, painting the entire fan base with that,
But no other fan base do I see that particular action,
And to me, that was just unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
The overwhelming majority of Knicks fans spent the night being
just normal fans, celebrating the stressing, arguing about the referees. Yes,
there there's there's more videos when stuff like this comes
out because it's New York City and you just have
an influx of people there. But I just I just
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like when when I'm out in the city, like that's
that's not my experience, and what I'm doing when I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Out there, well, I mean, tell you're going to an
open bar and getting a Shirley temple, so you're not
look it up your your decent human being is what
I'm trying to say. Uh and and and listen, your
point is a good one. There's a very small percentage
of fans who are actually out there doing that stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And it's unfortunate that they have to represent the same
group of people that Taylor's representing.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So it's just you have to be lumped in together.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Your small percentage of the worst of you are going
to represent.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
All of you.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
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Speaker 1 (14:28):
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Is he I cannot get tailor focused on anything else
other than things happening at Madison Square Garden, around Madison
Square Garden, anything going on with the Knicks. We have
a report from Mark Stein on Wemby's foul last night.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We'll get to that in a second mark Stein.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But Taylor, since you are in New York, you're close
to the action. What are Nick fans doing in terms
of exercising the demons right now?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Because Nick fans are wheeling today we are nerve. We
were celebrating last night headed into Game three. At twenty
four hours later, we could now see a path with
the Spurs or holding up the Larry O'Brien Trophy at
the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So one fan in particular with my Sam he hosts.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
He hosts seven PM in Brooklyn with the Kid Merrow
and Carmelo Anthony. He tweeted, all Knicks fans, meet me
in front of MSG at one thirty pm and bring
your sage. We gotta clean this out for Wednesday. A
lot of people thought he was joking. He was serious.
He really did bring the sage. This is kind of
everybody do your part. I'm gonna do my job so
(15:39):
the Knicks can do their job Game four.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I appreciate the gesture. I just hate the smell of
burnt sage. I don't like it at all. And if
they're just making that entire area smell like that, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
If it's gonna help Gotadell and Stu.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
If I could stay with the Knicks topic for a second,
Langston Galloway tweeted, no, boy, I need tickets for Game
four and somebody from the Knicks has to do something
because Langston Galloway legend. Nobody epitomizes better the stretch of
basketball between finals appearances be with nineteen ninety nine and
(16:18):
twenty twenty six than Langston Galloway, where somebody came out
from from almost out of nowhere to be like, is
this gonna be the guy that saves the Knicks. Now,
ultimately he was not the guy that saved the Knicks,
but still Knicks fans today we love Langston Galloway. Knicks
give the tickets to Langston Galloway instead of DJ Khal
dj kllen out of there.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I mean, I don't even get me started on DJ Khaled.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
DJ Khaled was literally on my Miami Heat podcast four
Years of Heat as our our celebrity fan, our signature
celebrity fan.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
He's talking about.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
All his hits and how they line up with the
championships from the Heat, and then you see him as
Fat Joe's guest on the wood in New York. I
feel like his card is completely absolutely just gonna get
torn up, like he cannot be a Heat fan anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, in fact, Joe's his card should be torn up
for bringing a Heat fan. No, well that's another thing now,
it's a terrible job by him. And what is Bob
Kraft doing there?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
That's another one, another one.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It's like, that's the one thing about Nicks games when
you look and you just can find a celebrity anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Just is that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think it is. But here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
The only redeemable quality here are the only argument that
Dj Khaled has here is if the Knicks lose and
lodes this series, he would say, you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I went there to jinx them.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Another one, another one, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
And to DJ Cowed's credit, to DJ Cowd's credit, at
least he didn't fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
No man away.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But Nick fans are really Mikey a the Bob Craft
Mikey A many times me and him are doing a
show inside the show and it's just eye contact. We're
not saying a word to each other. You were laughing
because I had to get Bob Craft in there.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean, of course you gotta get Bob Crafted there
because he has no business being there.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's is he doing another one? And another one?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
And I'm thinking back to on the podcast go Download It,
ste got some company where you could not figure out
how to deliver the joke, but you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Had the punchline. Yeah, so you just said something about
in another one. Here was Fat Joe's plus one.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I wanted to say it was Fat Joe's another one.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
That would have been good, just like Ricardo when he
said earlier Donald Slump.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Speaking of Ricardo, he does, We'll get to this in
the final segment. He has fifty shows better than Breaking Bed.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We'll take them five at a todd Yeah, what is
going on here?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Taylor mark Stein is reporting what as it relates to
Wemby's possible flagrant foul that was missed by the referees
in last night's game.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So Mark Song tweeted out.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
The NBA head of officiating, Monty McCutcheon, is appearing now
on ESPN. He acknowledges that a foul was missed on
Victor Wenbinyama's first quarter shove of Jalen Brunt and says
the league's review is still ongoing regarding whether the play
will be deemed a retroactive flagrant foul. So is he
If this is deemed a flagrant foul, Wembinyama will now
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have three flagrant foul points, and if he gets four,
he would be suspended. So we are we are getting
dangerously close to a potential Game seven that doesn't include
Victor Webbinyama.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right at the very least, this forces him. If indeed
it isn't forced, this would force him to play differently,
especially on the defensive side of the of the court.
Right is he potentially I mean he's thinking there because
the next one is a full game.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, And let me just say this, this is complete BS.
Don't give me the retroactive flagrant foul ruling. Okay, if
you didn't rule it after potential review, even if you
didn't review it, if you didn't rule it on the court,
it's over man, it's over with.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Like this affects the game too much.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
It's like saying, oh, I'm sorry, we missed two plays
where Karl Anthony or Victor Webinyama stepped out of bounds.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The Knicks actually.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Won this game.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Reverse that. It's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I'm actually going the opposite ways too coarse Yeah one, yes,
when he whispered that thunder series and then Mason Plummey
took somebody out, I want that to be retroactively.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Looked at it.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I Beliegue would never allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
Mike GOLOKSENI you're going to join us in about fifteen minutes.
We have not talked nearly enough about Brendan Soresby two
game suspension.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
We'll talk about that with Mike coming up.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is He's been walking around here mikey A and Taylor,
and he just keeps muttering under his breath. Steph Curry's
my goat. Steph Curry's my goat. Steph Curry's my goat.
And I haven't said any to him. I just let
him say it. I haven't engaged him. I don't want
to get into that conversation. I'm focused on the New
York Knicks right now.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I am.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I would like Taylor to go out to the Guarden tomorrow,
to the Mecca before they shut down Midtown Manhattan like
they did yesterday, and actually go to a restaurant buy
Madison Square Guardian, talk to a host and ask him, hey, host,
one table left to this restaurant. Carl Anthony Towns walks in,
and Patrick Ewing walks in. Who's getting the table now.
(21:13):
Yesterday the answer would have been Karl Anthony Towns. Today
that answer is Patrick Youwday it is. Yes, that's a
great idea him going to actual New York restaurant. It
would be great check it out the Harpbar Taylor or
Blarney Stone Josh Hartbar. Not if I have Patrick Ewing
and o g walking in to a Blarney Stone in
(21:34):
Midtown Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
To sit down and have some dinner, it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So is he's walking around Steph Curry's might go what
is going on with you and Steph Curry today?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I'll just just you can follow me on this because
this is where my thinking was whenever I saw Draymond
Green on the UH in the.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Broadcast booth yesterday.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's, first of all, he's got to be looking down
and he's got to be laughing at these conversations about
Victor went and yeah, I'm a being a dirty player,
because Holy Christ, the things that Draymond Green got away with,
even at this level. Right, there's the old videos of
Steph Curry the Warriors offense how it used to be,
and it's just moving screen bah after moving screen bah.
(22:15):
And obviously we've seen what Draymond Green has done. He
did the lebron you know, kick to the testes when
he was in the finals, and so he's got to
be laughing at this, like it doesn't even reach Draymond
Green levels of physicality that Victor Webinyam has been doing.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have to think of Taylor called Wemby a scumbag
earlier on the podcast, and listen, he's reeling, he was
in a bad moods. I'm starting to see color back
in his face. He's starting to regroup and regather himself.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Go ahead, Tylor, But just.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
To be clear, I do stand by that statement.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It was a bit harsh. It was a bit harsh
for Wemby. But even the nick players, the nick legends
who were watching these games, they would laugh at the
notion that Wemby is a dirty player. All of the
guys watching the game when they were playing, they were
dirtier than the guy that everyone is calling dirty.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Today, when you have to resort to more physical play
because you're getting deeper in the playoffs, some of it
might look dirty.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Not everybody plays this way all the time.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
But so there's that, right, the Draymond having and then
I sort of followed that thread, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Wait a second.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
All these folks who are complaining about how Jalen Brunston
is getting defended and getting fouled all the time, go
check the tapes of Steph Curby while he was winning
championships and see how they were defending him, just pulling
and grabbing and tugging all over the place. And you
know it's par for the course at this time.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
So, then, Taylor, We've had this conversation. Right, if Draymond
Green gets drafted by any other team or by two
thirds of the team in the league, he has a
role player. He never sniffs an All Star game, maybe
has a four or five year career, and it's put
right right. That seems to be what a lot of
people would agree with.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right place, right time. Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame.
You know who else belongs in that Hall of fame?
Who Klay Thompson? Really?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
If Klay Thompson was not on the Warriors and a
you know, a fellow what do they call each other,
splash brother, then he is nowhere near the superstar that
he was. And I've said this since he was a star.
Put him on a team that does not have another
star make him the number one guy in his prime
on his team.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
What does that look like? Not great?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
The only thing I can compare it to is like
when Glenn Rice was the best player for the Flamy Heat, they.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Were a decent team.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That's a good cop right there. Yes, And then so
he had his moments.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Because he's had you know, he's a great shooter surrounded
by great talent, running in a great offense. So he
had a lot of great moments. But that's because of
Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
He can do that.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
He can have a five point game and nobody notices. Okay,
and yet Steph did all of that, the unanimous MVP,
the multiple championships, got robbed of an NBA Finals MVP
as well. And yes, when he had KD they were
an unfair team. Just the two of them are unfair.
But even if you look at those stats, the games
that they won with Steph and without KD something like
(24:56):
eighty percent. The games that they played with KD and
without Steph they won fifty four percent. That man elevated
everybody around him and by himself was an absolutely Like
we don't.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Talking about ethical hoops.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That is the most ethical Hooper there was right, Yeah,
And so everything about that man says the purity of
sport and what makes somebody a winner Like that dude
has done it over and over again. And I'm telling
you we're over estimating the abilities of Draymond and Clay
because they were teammates with him.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So you're saying, Steph, the reason those guys have had
Hall of Fame careers is in large part because they
had the opportunity to play with Steph Curry. But isn't
that the job of the great players of all time?
Like when you talk about the greatest players, Michael Jordan,
does Scotty Pippen have the same career? Does someone else
have the same career Scottie Pippen? Thank you for it
if they.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
End up playing with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Now I know Jordan went out for a year or
two and Pippen still got his team to the Eastern
Conference semi finals to a game seven against the Knicks,
a game.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
The Bulls probably should have won. So Pippen did.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Prove Hey, I could do it on my own, but
he proved it within the infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
That Michael phil Bilte.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
You could argue that if he didn't play with Michael,
he never would have built himself to the player that
he was, whether it be because of him, whether it
because of the level of teams that were playing, whether
because it was the coaching. That's fine, But we saw
what he looked like in his prime without Michael Jordan,
and you can say to yourself, that guy would have
been a multiple time All Star, whether he had mj
next to him or not. Maybe not winning championships right,
(26:21):
but would have been a multiple time All Star. I
don't think anybody says that about Dre or maybe Clay
one or two All Star games, because he's such a
great shooter. But the man on a team, being the
man that's relied upon night after night on a team,
I don't think he had.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That in him. Go ahead tell.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Listening to Stu Gotts talk about the nineties bulls is
like watching Barry Bonds take batting practices.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah yeah, I have him committed to memory.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I mean I do the first three.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Teams, the second three teams, Oh yeah, I could name
all of them. I mean I hear listen, there was
a time I got into this industry because at one
point in my life I cared about sports.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Do nothing makes me laugh harder than watching these reels
of these you know, young twenty something year olds realizing
how Michael Jackson played, Michael Jordan actually played. They're like
showing the tapes. I'm like, yeah, I know, I live
through this. I watch the man, You're nothing. Makes me
feel older.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
They're also, uh, they're also learning how talented Michael Jackson
was and he went there. I think Billy Gene is
number one again. I mean, it's insane, it is right,
go ahead tell it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So I have an update when it comes to the
Jalen Brunson Victor Wembin Yama stuff, because when Jalen Brunson
was asked about it yesterday, he said, whatever you saw
is what you saw. He wasn't really taking the bait.
He didn't want to put Fiel to that fire. He
was gonna let his play.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
The talking not not anymore because the anti has been
upped today. Jose Albarado on Wemby's shove of Jalen Brunson,
he got away with one. That'll be the last.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
We've got ourselves a series. Boys.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I oh, let's analyze this.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
That'll be the last one.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
So does that mean they're going to proactively do something
to Wemby so that he can no longer foul anybody,
or they have to wait until he flagrantly fouls somebody
else to then react.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And you'll see what we do then. Is that what
he means?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
This is the Knicks putting their foot down and saying, Wemby,
enough is enough. You're not coming into our building and
punking us anymore. What you did was was a cheap
shot to Jalen Brunson. Yep, that'll be the last one.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
These are the things that happen when you stop celebrating
your two oho series lead and start realizing you're playing
a really good basketball team who's just as good as
you are, and you're terrified. So you start talking. And
now it's become a series. This has become a series.
And it's odd, is he because as a Nick fan,
I would prefer, obviously to be up three to zero
and try to close it out on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
As a sports fan, okay, you are getting exactly what
you wanted. Because there are a precious few days remaining
before we get to baseball.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Joey Chess nothing to do on the weekends.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And so fans really want to enjoy these final couple
of games here and the Spurs by winning last night,
and fans don't care how we get to the winning.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
They only care about their own interests.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And fans now have themselves a series where Alvarado is
talking to Wemby, and Wemby's talking and we got Monni
mccutching going on and what a great name on the
ESPN to talk about whether or not this thing is
going to be overturned. I mean, now you have yourself
a series that sports fans can really wrap themselves around
and get themselves into. Because before last night is he
(29:33):
we had nothing even close to that. We had a city,
the number one city, the biggest market in America, celebrating
a championship two games before they wont actually anything.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Listen, Alvarado, grand theft Alvarado, I love him. You can't
say that stuff through three games in the finals. Yes,
when you're shooting thirty three percent fourteen percent from three
and giving me four points.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
All right? Yeah, and Jose Alvarado, get me a steal,
do something.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Jose Alvarado's impact goes way beyond the box score. He's
one of the few people that doesn't look like he's
afraid of Victor wembin Yama. Yeah, and he went to
Christ the King. He's a true New Yorker. Julian Champagne.
On the other side, if Julian CHAMPENNI wanted to prove
that he was a real New Yorker.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
He let the Knicks wins for a high school ever,
Price the King put.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It on the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
If Champenny wants to prove that he's a true New Yorker,
should he let the Knicks win the NBA Championship.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
There is no way.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Like like, if your family member goes into the NBA
most of the time, you would just assume they're gonna
just root for the team that you play for. There
is no way Julian Champagny's family grew up Knicks fans
and are now rooting for the Spurs against the Knicks.
His parents are wearing there. They're Carmelo Anthony and Steve
Novak jerseys.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You think Victor webin Yama's parents grew up Spurs fans.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Do you think someone has a Steve Novak jersey? McCain,
I know McCain, he has everyone's jersey.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I mean his discount double check was good.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Do you have a Langston Galloway jersey?
Speaker 6 (31:17):
I would have to check my closet. Douglas, I definitely
have a Tony Douglas jersey. I didn't know that Tony
Douglas and Harry Douglas were brothers.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Huh yeah, athletic family.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, what do you want me to do with that?
I mean, did you guys know that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I don't know. I add to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I don't know. We do radio. Let's reverse roles here.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Let me throw that dead fish on your lap and
tell me what you would do with it. I didn't
know Harry Douglas and Tony Douglas we're brothers, did you Huh?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
I didn't know that, because you would assume Harry Douglas
went to Louisville, Tony Douglas went to Florida State. There
wasn't really much cross over there. You've never really seen
them together. That's how you do radio, baby, or does
it getting exact?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah? But I they have the same last name, siblings
would never go to different schools.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Stud But he's doing this all. Oh, I didn't see him.
I've ever seen him together in the same last name.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Not that shocking, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do much with it.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I handed him the ball, he didn't do much with it.
He's acting like he did more than I did with it.
Telling me how to do sports radio. I've been doing
sports radio twenty five years around here.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Don't call me Omar.
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Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thanks to Mike Golik for joining us in that last segment.
Taylor seems to with every passing hour. It seems like
he begins to gather more and more hope than the
Knicks actually gonna get this done. He's starting to get
some color back in his face. I'm starting to see
him smile again. How you feeling, Taylor? How you feeling so?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
One of the things I learned from my college days
at North Carolina. Some days on a football field, you
just have to be able to fake it. Right now,
I'm faking it. I'd much rather be part that Central
Park right now on a blanket, crying, crying away. But
that's not any good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, it's such a good. It's such a like.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's exactly what I was thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Earlier today, Taylor. I was like, man, I.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Wonder what it's actually like in his shoes, because you
got to wake up and pretend that that didn't happen
last night. And I'm trying to think of, like, man,
the times that my teams have lost, like in a
really poor fashion that I'm upset with.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Normally, the next day I can just ignore it altogether.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes, So the worst thing that happened to me last
night after the game. I'm walking into the car and
I got two sandwiches before the game that I brought
to the bar because it was bring your own food.
I forgot the second sandwich at the bar, left it
in the car.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
He left it in the bar. Huh wow, I left
it bar? Yeah, chicken cutlet. What was it?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
It was a grilled chicken with mozzarella and pesto sandwich.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And it's probably bad by that point.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Anyway, that's a lot of effort into a sandwich to
leave at a bar man. You could charge thirty brother
that sanwich to New York's very happy with you, right.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yes, we teased last week.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Somehow I never got back to it, as we tend
to do on this show that bornout. Ricardo has a
list of fifty shows that are better than Breaking Bad.
I can't, so we're gonna do them five at a time. Here,
Mikey's shaking is why are you shaking your head over?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm so because I am so mad.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You know what we are in the business of hot takes,
but every hot take we've given has a little bit
of truth behind it.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
At least like I believe this in some form of fashion.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
There is no way Ricardo thinks that these fifty shows
are better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
There's just not because there aren't.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I find it hard to believe there are fifty shows
better than Breaking the ten shows that are better than
Breaking Bad?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Taylor, you just started watching Breaking Bad? Where are you
with this series?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
I started at about two weeks ago. I finished it
in about five days. I was watching about seven episodes,
aday just just banging through.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Them, all right? Hard? Would it be inside?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're I don't have seven hours in a day to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Would it be inside? You're just talking behind the microphone?
Would it be would it be inside? Your top ten
all time TV shows?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So I probably haven't watched ten TV shows in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
So it does get on out of that. He's too
busy watching sports.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's breaking bad in the Sopranos. That's probably
my one and two.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
All right, So how do we want to do this?
Do we have music for it? We'll do five at
a time. Bord up Ricardo claims that he has fifty
shows better than what many considered to be the best
show in the history on television, but bored up Ricardo says, no,
it's fifty one on my list.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So we'll count down here from fifty. We'll do it
five at a time.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's like it's like the Bleacher Reports top one hundred
NBA players of all time. So bordout Ricardo taken away,
I mean, I just how do you get to fifty?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's a list of the top twenty five players better
than Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
That's what this is. It is a perfect way to
put it in.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yes, yes, no, put it on the pole tailor. Is
Breaking Bad the Michael Jordan of TV shows? Because I'm
with Izzy Lebron.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Actually earlier, I was actually talking to my friend about it,
and I said, Breaking Bad is the Alex Smith of
TV shows.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
All right, try to replace him, Patrick Mahomes, what average?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I mean, Andy Reid, you have some nerve? All right,
go ahead, give us number fifty here. This is the
fiftieth be best show according to bordop Ricardo, the fiftieth
show that is better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Golden Girls. Oh, it's a good one. You gotta go
five in a row.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You gotta go five in a row?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right? Oh? No, no, no it doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I mean we could stop and comment on each Do
you have any quite like follow ups before he starts.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
The list here? Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Do we have fifty minutes in this segment?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So the first one, number fifty is Golden Girls. There's
no there's no fanfare. Alright, alright, all right, I can't
really just well, it's not better than Breaking Bad, but
it was a good ship.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's nine percent themes saw way better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I mean the stories on Saint Olaf alone are worth
its own TV show. Number forty nine, Board Out, Rigardo, we.
Speaker 9 (37:20):
Got White Lotus on HBO, Get out of Here.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yea, Taylor's making a face. It's a face he made
when Wemby broke him out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Well, Taylor's never seen it.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
He's only seen two TV shows, so he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I have seen White Lotus.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
It's it was not better than Break Welcome on because
I always say this about White Lotus, and clearly this
is going to have to be a list that goes
on for weeks because we're not going to get them
all here. But the thing about White Lotus is it's
effectively a limited series every single season, so you can
do something completely different every season.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It's a little unfair on the list, but I definitely
like it all right. Number forty eight, it's not better
than Breaking Bad, though.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I mean, it's not even closed to rewatch Number forty eight, Ricardo,
go ahead, this is outraging all of us.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Go ahead six feet under my first disagreement.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
So I'm not disputing that any of these shows are
good shows. I'm just saying they're not better than the
Michael Jordan of TV shows.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Six Feet Under was the first show that I said
to myself, get over yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It is.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's a little and they're trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They're trying too hard. Yeah, all right, it insists upon itself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
There it is.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
It was an early prestige TV show. They were still
trying to get their feet under them easy.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
The only thing I really remember about that show is
how many people wanted to get the part of the
dead body like that was a huge thing in Hollywood.
I want to play the dead person on six feet under.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
The knicks Field six feet under. Right, Now, let's go
to number forty seven. Sorry, Taylor, I'm hurting today. Taylor's
going the other way. He's getting life back in them.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm going I God, I'm terrified.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Now, bake it till you make it.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Forty seven Sanford and Son. That's a good show, me, Jesus,
that's a good show. All right. Taylor's never seen half
of the what are we even talking? I've seen any
of these ten? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, that couldn't That show couldn't work these days because
his famous lineup, I'm coming Elizabeth would be heard totally
different there.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
All right, we'll get to five more tomorrow, but number
forty six.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
According to bordop Ricardo, the forty six television show that
is better than Breaking Bad the British Office, So the
office in England says your.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Original if you will h the original is not done
as well. So somewhere on this list, probably in the
top ten, is the American Office. I understand, I.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Don't think so. I mean, all of this, are you know?
I mean all this begs the question have you seen
Breaking Bad? Ricardo?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I have, I have, and kind of mediocre if you
ask me.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We need a good night's sleep and hopefully we'll wake
up in a better mood. I mean, Jesus, The Knicks
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
We are a wounded group today.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
By group, I mean me and Taylor.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
As the Knicks lose last night at the Mecca, the
series now two games to one, we have ourselves a series.
Here Israel Goudieirez, who was trying to make himself a
Knicks fan, seems to suddenly try to or at least
from the conversation we had before the show, is trying
to distance himself from the New York Knicks and their
fan base. But we'll get to that in just a second.
(00:51):
What were your thoughts the big I guess the big
complaint from Nick fans last night. Mike Brown lent his
voice to it after the show, and we'll play that
in just a second. What were your thought the officiating
last night?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Is he I think for the entire series it feels
like it's uneven officiating. I would even go back, not
necessarily the Eastern Conference Finals, but include the Western Conference
finals in this conversation. So anything involving Wemby for the
last two rounds has been uneven officiating. There have been
times where I'm just like, that's clearly a foul and
it doesn't even matter which team I'm talking about. It
(01:22):
doesn't you know, the foul isn't getting called. There are
other times, I mean there I feel like the guy
who has the biggest complaint of everybody in this series
is Stefan Castle, who feels I feel like he gets
fouled multiple times every time he drives and very rarely
gets the call, and he has been holding back on
how he can react. If he decides to unleash, it's
going to be a bad thing for the Knicks and.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
For the officials.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
And so yeah, I think it's been uneven officiating. I
think when you get to this point, it feels like
over the last couple of years to that officials have
been going more hands off the deeper they get into
the playoffs. Yes, and that to me is a problem. Right,
It's like, we have to be consistent with how we
call these games. Don't make it more difficult just because
we're deeper into the playoffs, be consistent with the entire
(02:07):
series and so or entire playoffs. And so last night
I thought, yes, if you were to just look at
it this one single game, it looked like the officials
maybe favored the Spurs. Maybe the Knicks got away with
the few i'm sorry, the Spurs got away with some
fouls and the Knicks that weren't.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Whistled at all.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
And if you look at the final numbers to field
goals made for the series so far, the Knicks have
eight more okay field goals attempted. You know, they're basically
trying to put up more shots because they're not getting
to the free throw line as much. And on the
free throw line, the Spurs have a seven i'm sorry,
the Spurs have a twenty three free throw advantage for
(02:48):
the series. And so when you're down two to one
and you're the Spurs, when you look at those free
throws numbers, you can't help but say, yes, we've been
benefiting from the whistle. But just watching the game, it
just looks like the refs are just having a hard
time period.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
And is he that that twenty three advantage on the
free throw line doesn't even account for some of those
free throws that the Knicks are taking are the hack
of Mitch Robinson where the Spurs are intentionally putting him
on the line.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Yeah, for sure and so but the other thing about
that is if you look at Victor Wembinyama and we
talked about you talked about it in the previous series, right, Taylor,
it feels like they don't know how to call a
goaltend against him because they've never really dealt with the
ballgatting blocked.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
We've never seen anything like him before in the NBA.
Of of course, he's hard to officiate.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
He's got so much body that it's hard to see
when his body is getting contacted. Like Mitch Johnson even
had to pull a similar to Mike Brown on that
three point and one attempt by Victor wembin Yama had
to challenge an out of bounce call just so you
can see how badly Victor Wembinyama was getting fouled. And so, Yes,
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in general, I believe the officiating two have been bad.
Do I think that it's favoring one team.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
More over the other?
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I can't really say, because it's possible the Spurs deserve
even more whistles.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Then they've gotten.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Taylor put it on the poll.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Every time the camera pans over to Mitch Johnson, do
you think he's going in for Stefan Castle?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The guy looks like he's twenty five years old. Man
does it looks like he can play a little bit.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Let's listen to Karl Anthony Towns after the game talking
about the officiating.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
No, I ain't cost us a game, turned the ball over,
didn't execute, didn't do what got us thirteen straight wins
in a row. That's how you lose the game. We
didn't do what we didn't doing for thirteen. We decided
to do something different. It ain't gonna work and I'm
throwing the ball away. Is a clear indication of how
you're going to lose a game, especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
All right, So that's Karl Anthony's town Karl Anthony Towns'
version of it. Here is Knicks head coach Mike Brown
talking about the officiating.
Speaker 8 (04:45):
If we play Game four and in the second half
they get twenty four free throw attempts tar eight and
maybe we were fouling. Maybe we were fouling, but they
fouled too. Can't get the ball off of loose ball
rebound and he shoots it and he gets whacked across
the arm and they hit the ball and it goes
out of bounds on the baseline. There's no foul. There
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were opportunities for fouls to be called to at least
try to even the free throws out to go twenty
four free throw attempts in the second half. That's forty eight.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
For the game.
Speaker 8 (05:17):
If you think about it, the way that they called
that second half, compared to eight all the shots we took,
we got fouled four times roughly for eight free throw temps. Again,
I don't complain much. I never thought i'd see that
in an NBA Finals game, and I saw it tonight.
It's tough to overcome when you're playing against a great team.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
He doesn't complain much, but he should complain more because
he's not good at it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He needs to practice.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I hear both of those that I hear Karl
Anthony town saying what a player who had a bad
game should be saying. Right, I'm not going to blame
the officials, not going to blame the referees.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And then I hear a coach and this should be
obvious to most people.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Because Mike Brown's getting killed today for complaining about the
officiating right after that game, as if that's the reason
they lost.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
He's not doing that. He knows the Spurs out played
him last night. What he is doing is laying down
a foundation for game four.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
That's all really though, purely, because all he's doing is
bringing out the numbers. If you're trying to lay a foundation,
then say then say, hey, Cat got filed on this play.
Cat got filed on this play. Cat got filed on
this play. He deserves more calls. Jalen got fouled on
this play. He deserves more calls. Don't go give me
the math, because the math for a half, stew the
whole game wasn't even that bad. You're talking about a half,
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you're just picking a time. It's nonsense. And so yeah,
and the funny part about the Cat quote isn't necessarily
the fact that he completely contradicted his coach, But when
he went into further detail, he's not only contradicting his coach,
he's saying, hey, we got away from what we were doing, Stu,
what were they doing? He was the MVP through two games, right, yes,
and then he said throwing the ball away. He was
(06:48):
essentially saying, give the ball back to me, correct and
take it away from whom the guy who was throwing
the ball away, who had five turnovers. Yes, Jalen Bruni,
if this team hadn't just won thirteenth straight, you would say, hey,
maybe there's some internal issues going on.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Right.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Yeah, So, dating back to last postseason, New York is
fourteen to zero. When Karl Anthony Towns has four or
more assists in a game, Jalen Brunson this postseason or
this series has as many turnovers as assists, And I
think Jalen Brunson would be the first person today that
would tell you he has to play better. The one
encouraging thing how people took encouraging signs from Game two
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that the Spurs would play better in Game three was
Jalen Brunson in that fourth quarter where you see the flashes,
where you see him score twelve points that quarter. You
see the player that Knicks fans have kind of gotten
to know the past couple of years, like if we're
in crunch situations, if we're in clutch situations, this is
gonna be the guy that comes through for us. Where
he's four or six from the field. And while I
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think the officiating was bad, While I think the officiating
was slanted one side, ultimately, Stu, you know this, it's
a make or miss league. The Knicks are twelve and
one when they outshoot their opponent from three, two and
two when they don't. From the field, it's thirteen and
oh one in three when they don't.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
It's even what you're talking about with the Karl Anthony
Towns assists number. That's entirely dependent on mak or miss.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He could hit wide open people and they could still
miss that shot. So it is very much that it's
make or miss. But it does feel a little annoying,
not as a Knicks fan, but as a bona fide
New Yorker. You're yesterday when you're putting up more shots,
and you're making more shots, and you're just not getting
to the free throw line enough. That's the difference in
this thing. It feels like, as a basketball player, a
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little unfair, even if it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I have to follow the face of mikey A. He's
always making faces. You were making faces as tailor was
talking what was going on there.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I'm a son, I have three brothers, I have two kids,
I have a dog and a loving wife.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Man, nobody loves me the way Taylor loves you. I
don't know he will.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Like honestly, listen, he'll be the first to tell you
that he needs to play like. It's just there's just
such an unquestioned love for him, and I just I'm
jealous because nobody loves me.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, he's written five songs.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Four wasn't enough, and he said Jalen Brunton has changed
his life and so therefore he's going to defend Jalen
Brunson until the very end here, until they lose, and
then he'll turn on them.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You'll see, raise your hand if you're a son, Oh
that's all us. Raise your hand, if you have a dog,
that's some of us.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh sorry, is he.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
You got it? You got it too soon?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is he who wanted to be a Knick fan yesterday
when they were up to oh and it was convenient
and they look like maybe the best team effort to
run through the postseason because they had one thirteen straight,
is now disgusted by the Knicks and their fan base
because they were getting all over San Antonio's fan base
yesterday after that loss.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What happened is he man. First of all, I was
just trying to be accepted by the Knicks face. I
didn't want to necessarily become a Knicks fan project yes rejected.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And the way he tried to do it was to
point out that his grandmother's building in New York was
once in a movie, amongst other things.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
By the way, Taylor, you got to give me the
stamp if you're rejecting it. That was one thing he was.
My grandmother's building was in the scene of the movie
Boomerang where Eddie Murphy and Halle Berry were walking down
the street a famous seed. And they also lived most
of their lives and died in New York. And I
was also born in New York, so plenty of bona
fides there. But I saw the video, multiple videos rather
(10:29):
of Knicks fans effectively going to rip off the shirts
of the jerseys of Spurs fans, and that to me
is just such a line crosser, like you do not
do that to another person. You have to give the
posing teams fans the freedom to exist in your space
like you can't be, especially as a Knicks fan, where
(10:51):
you see Knicks fans be in every other building all
across the country, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, we're representing.
And yet when they come represent in your place, you're
going to rip off or attempt to rip off their
jerseys and get these people even more upset at you.
Ye shout out to Real Takes Reviews who had this point.
I think he is a Philadelphia guy on Instagram where
he said Knicks fans are what people think Philadelphia fans
(11:14):
actually are and Taylor, I'm sorry, but this is one
hundred percent true because I would rather watch a crazy
Sixers fan or a Philly fan eat his own poop
then I would see this nonsense and just disrespecting another
human like that.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
New York City has more than eight million people. Miami
has fewer than five hundred thousand people. So I just
I just don't agree with you know, spare me the
attempts to paint an entire city based on a video
of a few fans fighting after Game three. You're gonna
you're gonna have idiots doing idiotic things when you have
a city of eight million people. That's not a but.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
It's multiple, multiple videos, multiple people doing it, the people
watching cheering them on. That's a good portion of a
fan base. It's like that doesn't represent everybody. Of course,
and I don't really know where Miami came into this,
but that doesn't represent everybody. But again, I don't see
this in Philadelphia. I don't see this in Golden State
when they're winning. I don't see this anywhere else. It's here,
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and it's supported in those videos by.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
A bunch of just annoying folks.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He said when they're winning, which is a good point, tailor,
that was their reaction. They're up two games to one
in the series. Imagine if they lose a Game six
at home and they lose the NBA Championship, how they're
going to act around Spurs fans who decided to come
into town to see that game. He is right from
that standpoint. I would also tell Philadelphia fans, relax, this
is not your moment to attack New York and their
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fan bases, okay, because yours is the worst in the country.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Period.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
You cheered a man who was almost paralyzed being carried
off a football field, Michael Irvin, the playmaker. I do
not want to hear you threw eggs at your offensive
coordinator's house. The guy won you a Super Bowl a
year or two before. I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
From Phillis offering him some eggs because they're expensive, and
they're like, here, you might need these, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
We're also offering Santa batteries apparently.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Again, Taylor, I don't mean to make it sound like
I am, you know, painting the entire fan base with that,
But no other fan base do I see that particular action,
And to me, that was just unacceptable.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
The overwhelming majority of Knicks fans spent the night being
just normal fans, celebrating the stressing, arguing about the referees. Yes,
there there's there's more videos when stuff like this comes
out because it's New York City and you just have
an influx of people there. But I just I just
(13:42):
like when when I'm out in the city, like that's
that's not my experience, and what I'm doing when I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Out there, well, I mean, tell you're going to an
open bar and getting a Shirley temple, so you're not
look it up your your decent human being is what
I'm trying to say. Uh and and and listen, your
point is a good one. There's a very small percentage
of fans who are actually out there doing that stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Is he right?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And it's unfortunate that they have to represent the same
group of people that Taylor's representing.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
So it's just you have to be lumped in together.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Your small percentage of the worst of you are going
to represent.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
All of you.
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Is he I cannot get tailor focused on anything else
other than things happening at Madison Square Garden, around Madison
Square Garden, anything going on with the Knicks. We have
a report from Mark Stein on Wemby's foul last night.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
We'll get to that in a second mark Stein.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But Taylor, since you are in New York, you're close
to the action. What are Nick fans doing in terms
of exercising the demons right now?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
What is going on?
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Because Nick fans are wheeling today we are nerve. We
were celebrating last night headed into Game three. At twenty
four hours later, we could now see a path with
the Spurs or holding up the Larry O'Brien Trophy at
the end of the season.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
So one fan in particular with my Sam he hosts.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
He hosts seven PM in Brooklyn with the Kid Merrow
and Carmelo Anthony. He tweeted, all Knicks fans, meet me
in front of MSG at one thirty pm and bring
your sage. We gotta clean this out for Wednesday. A
lot of people thought he was joking. He was serious.
He really did bring the sage. This is kind of
everybody do your part. I'm gonna do my job so
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the Knicks can do their job Game four.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I appreciate the gesture. I just hate the smell of
burnt sage. I don't like it at all. And if
they're just making that entire area smell like that, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
If it's gonna help Gotadell and Stu.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
If I could stay with the Knicks topic for a second,
Langston Galloway tweeted, no, boy, I need tickets for Game
four and somebody from the Knicks has to do something
because Langston Galloway legend. Nobody epitomizes better the stretch of
basketball between finals appearances be with nineteen ninety nine and
(16:18):
twenty twenty six than Langston Galloway, where somebody came out
from from almost out of nowhere to be like, is
this gonna be the guy that saves the Knicks. Now,
ultimately he was not the guy that saved the Knicks,
but still Knicks fans today we love Langston Galloway. Knicks
give the tickets to Langston Galloway instead of DJ Khal
dj kllen out of there.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I mean, I don't even get me started on DJ Khaled.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
DJ Khaled was literally on my Miami Heat podcast four
Years of Heat as our our celebrity fan, our signature
celebrity fan.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
He's talking about.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
All his hits and how they line up with the
championships from the Heat, and then you see him as
Fat Joe's guest on the wood in New York. I
feel like his card is completely absolutely just gonna get
torn up, like he cannot be a Heat fan anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Well, in fact, Joe's his card should be torn up
for bringing a Heat fan. No, well that's another thing now,
it's a terrible job by him. And what is Bob
Kraft doing there?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
That's another one, another one.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
It's like, that's the one thing about Nicks games when
you look and you just can find a celebrity anyway.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Just is that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I think it is. But here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
The only redeemable quality here are the only argument that
Dj Khaled has here is if the Knicks lose and
lodes this series, he would say, you're welcome.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
I went there to jinx them.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Another one, another one, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
And to DJ Cowed's credit, to DJ Cowd's credit, at
least he didn't fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
No man away.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But Nick fans are really Mikey a the Bob Craft
Mikey A many times me and him are doing a
show inside the show and it's just eye contact. We're
not saying a word to each other. You were laughing
because I had to get Bob Craft in there.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean, of course you gotta get Bob Crafted there
because he has no business being there.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's is he doing another one? And another one?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
And I'm thinking back to on the podcast go Download It,
ste got some company where you could not figure out
how to deliver the joke, but you.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Had the punchline. Yeah, so you just said something about
in another one. Here was Fat Joe's plus one.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I wanted to say it was Fat Joe's another one.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
That would have been good, just like Ricardo when he
said earlier Donald Slump.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Speaking of Ricardo, he does, We'll get to this in
the final segment. He has fifty shows better than Breaking Bed.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We'll take them five at a todd Yeah, what is
going on here?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Taylor mark Stein is reporting what as it relates to
Wemby's possible flagrant foul that was missed by the referees
in last night's game.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
So Mark Song tweeted out.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
The NBA head of officiating, Monty McCutcheon, is appearing now
on ESPN. He acknowledges that a foul was missed on
Victor Wenbinyama's first quarter shove of Jalen Brunt and says
the league's review is still ongoing regarding whether the play
will be deemed a retroactive flagrant foul. So is he
If this is deemed a flagrant foul, Wembinyama will now
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have three flagrant foul points, and if he gets four,
he would be suspended. So we are we are getting
dangerously close to a potential Game seven that doesn't include
Victor Webbinyama.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Right at the very least, this forces him. If indeed
it isn't forced, this would force him to play differently,
especially on the defensive side of the of the court.
Right is he potentially I mean he's thinking there because
the next one is a full game.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Yeah, And let me just say this, this is complete BS.
Don't give me the retroactive flagrant foul ruling. Okay, if
you didn't rule it after potential review, even if you
didn't review it, if you didn't rule it on the court,
it's over man, it's over with.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Like this affects the game too much.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
It's like saying, oh, I'm sorry, we missed two plays
where Karl Anthony or Victor Webinyama stepped out of bounds.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
The Knicks actually.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Won this game.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Reverse that. It's just it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
I'm actually going the opposite ways too coarse Yeah one, yes,
when he whispered that thunder series and then Mason Plummey
took somebody out, I want that to be retroactively.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Looked at it.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I Beliegue would never allow it.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
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Speaker 1 (20:22):
Mike GOLOKSENI you're going to join us in about fifteen minutes.
We have not talked nearly enough about Brendan Soresby two
game suspension.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
We'll talk about that with Mike coming up.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Is He's been walking around here mikey A and Taylor,
and he just keeps muttering under his breath. Steph Curry's
my goat. Steph Curry's my goat. Steph Curry's my goat.
And I haven't said any to him. I just let
him say it. I haven't engaged him. I don't want
to get into that conversation. I'm focused on the New
York Knicks right now.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I am.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I would like Taylor to go out to the Guarden tomorrow,
to the Mecca before they shut down Midtown Manhattan like
they did yesterday, and actually go to a restaurant buy
Madison Square Guardian, talk to a host and ask him, hey, host,
one table left to this restaurant. Carl Anthony Towns walks in,
and Patrick Ewing walks in. Who's getting the table now.
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Yesterday the answer would have been Karl Anthony Towns. Today
that answer is Patrick Youwday it is. Yes, that's a
great idea him going to actual New York restaurant. It
would be great check it out the Harpbar Taylor or
Blarney Stone Josh Hartbar. Not if I have Patrick Ewing
and o g walking in to a Blarney Stone in
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Midtown Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
To sit down and have some dinner, it's absurd.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
So is he's walking around Steph Curry's might go what
is going on with you and Steph Curry today?
Speaker 5 (21:44):
I'll just just you can follow me on this because
this is where my thinking was whenever I saw Draymond
Green on the UH in the.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Broadcast booth yesterday.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
It's, first of all, he's got to be looking down
and he's got to be laughing at these conversations about
Victor went and yeah, I'm a being a dirty player,
because Holy Christ, the things that Draymond Green got away with,
even at this level. Right, there's the old videos of
Steph Curry the Warriors offense how it used to be,
and it's just moving screen bah after moving screen bah.
(22:15):
And obviously we've seen what Draymond Green has done. He
did the lebron you know, kick to the testes when
he was in the finals, and so he's got to
be laughing at this, like it doesn't even reach Draymond
Green levels of physicality that Victor Webinyam has been doing.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have to think of Taylor called Wemby a scumbag
earlier on the podcast, and listen, he's reeling, he was
in a bad moods. I'm starting to see color back
in his face. He's starting to regroup and regather himself.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Go ahead, Tylor, But just.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
To be clear, I do stand by that statement.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
It was a bit harsh. It was a bit harsh
for Wemby. But even the nick players, the nick legends
who were watching these games, they would laugh at the
notion that Wemby is a dirty player. All of the
guys watching the game when they were playing, they were
dirtier than the guy that everyone is calling dirty.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Today, when you have to resort to more physical play
because you're getting deeper in the playoffs, some of it
might look dirty.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Not everybody plays this way all the time.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
But so there's that, right, the Draymond having and then
I sort of followed that thread, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Wait a second.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
All these folks who are complaining about how Jalen Brunston
is getting defended and getting fouled all the time, go
check the tapes of Steph Curby while he was winning
championships and see how they were defending him, just pulling
and grabbing and tugging all over the place. And you
know it's par for the course at this time.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
So, then, Taylor, We've had this conversation. Right, if Draymond
Green gets drafted by any other team or by two
thirds of the team in the league, he has a
role player. He never sniffs an All Star game, maybe
has a four or five year career, and it's put
right right. That seems to be what a lot of
people would agree with.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Right place, right time. Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame.
You know who else belongs in that Hall of fame?
Who Klay Thompson? Really?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
If Klay Thompson was not on the Warriors and a
you know, a fellow what do they call each other,
splash brother, then he is nowhere near the superstar that
he was. And I've said this since he was a star.
Put him on a team that does not have another
star make him the number one guy in his prime
on his team.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
What does that look like? Not great?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
The only thing I can compare it to is like
when Glenn Rice was the best player for the Flamy Heat, they.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Were a decent team.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
That's a good cop right there. Yes, And then so
he had his moments.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Because he's had you know, he's a great shooter surrounded
by great talent, running in a great offense. So he
had a lot of great moments. But that's because of
Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
He can do that.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
He can have a five point game and nobody notices. Okay,
and yet Steph did all of that, the unanimous MVP,
the multiple championships, got robbed of an NBA Finals MVP
as well. And yes, when he had KD they were
an unfair team. Just the two of them are unfair.
But even if you look at those stats, the games
that they won with Steph and without KD something like
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eighty percent. The games that they played with KD and
without Steph they won fifty four percent. That man elevated
everybody around him and by himself was an absolutely Like
we don't.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Talking about ethical hoops.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
That is the most ethical Hooper there was right, Yeah,
And so everything about that man says the purity of
sport and what makes somebody a winner Like that dude
has done it over and over again. And I'm telling
you we're over estimating the abilities of Draymond and Clay
because they were teammates with him.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So you're saying, Steph, the reason those guys have had
Hall of Fame careers is in large part because they
had the opportunity to play with Steph Curry. But isn't
that the job of the great players of all time?
Like when you talk about the greatest players, Michael Jordan,
does Scotty Pippen have the same career? Does someone else
have the same career Scottie Pippen? Thank you for it
if they.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
End up playing with Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Now I know Jordan went out for a year or
two and Pippen still got his team to the Eastern
Conference semi finals to a game seven against the Knicks,
a game.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
The Bulls probably should have won. So Pippen did.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Prove Hey, I could do it on my own, but
he proved it within the infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
That Michael phil Bilte.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
You could argue that if he didn't play with Michael,
he never would have built himself to the player that
he was, whether it be because of him, whether it
because of the level of teams that were playing, whether
because it was the coaching. That's fine, But we saw
what he looked like in his prime without Michael Jordan,
and you can say to yourself, that guy would have
been a multiple time All Star, whether he had mj
next to him or not. Maybe not winning championships right,
(26:21):
but would have been a multiple time All Star. I
don't think anybody says that about Dre or maybe Clay
one or two All Star games, because he's such a
great shooter. But the man on a team, being the
man that's relied upon night after night on a team,
I don't think he had.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That in him. Go ahead tell.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Listening to Stu Gotts talk about the nineties bulls is
like watching Barry Bonds take batting practices.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah yeah, I have him committed to memory.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I mean I do the first three.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Teams, the second three teams, Oh yeah, I could name
all of them. I mean I hear listen, there was
a time I got into this industry because at one
point in my life I cared about sports.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Do nothing makes me laugh harder than watching these reels
of these you know, young twenty something year olds realizing
how Michael Jackson played, Michael Jordan actually played. They're like
showing the tapes. I'm like, yeah, I know, I live
through this. I watch the man, You're nothing. Makes me
feel older.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
They're also, uh, they're also learning how talented Michael Jackson
was and he went there. I think Billy Gene is
number one again. I mean, it's insane, it is right,
go ahead tell it.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
So I have an update when it comes to the
Jalen Brunson Victor Wembin Yama stuff, because when Jalen Brunson
was asked about it yesterday, he said, whatever you saw
is what you saw. He wasn't really taking the bait.
He didn't want to put Fiel to that fire. He
was gonna let his play.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Dude.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
The talking not not anymore because the anti has been
upped today. Jose Albarado on Wemby's shove of Jalen Brunson,
he got away with one. That'll be the last.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
We've got ourselves a series. Boys.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I oh, let's analyze this.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
That'll be the last one.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
So does that mean they're going to proactively do something
to Wemby so that he can no longer foul anybody,
or they have to wait until he flagrantly fouls somebody
else to then react.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And you'll see what we do then. Is that what
he means?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
This is the Knicks putting their foot down and saying, Wemby,
enough is enough. You're not coming into our building and
punking us anymore. What you did was was a cheap
shot to Jalen Brunson. Yep, that'll be the last one.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
These are the things that happen when you stop celebrating
your two oho series lead and start realizing you're playing
a really good basketball team who's just as good as
you are, and you're terrified. So you start talking. And
now it's become a series. This has become a series.
And it's odd, is he because as a Nick fan,
I would prefer, obviously to be up three to zero
and try to close it out on Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
As a sports fan, okay, you are getting exactly what
you wanted. Because there are a precious few days remaining
before we get to baseball.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Joey Chess nothing to do on the weekends.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
And so fans really want to enjoy these final couple
of games here and the Spurs by winning last night,
and fans don't care how we get to the winning.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
They only care about their own interests.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And fans now have themselves a series where Alvarado is
talking to Wemby, and Wemby's talking and we got Monni
mccutching going on and what a great name on the
ESPN to talk about whether or not this thing is
going to be overturned. I mean, now you have yourself
a series that sports fans can really wrap themselves around
and get themselves into. Because before last night is he
(29:33):
we had nothing even close to that. We had a city,
the number one city, the biggest market in America, celebrating
a championship two games before they wont actually anything.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Listen, Alvarado, grand theft Alvarado, I love him. You can't
say that stuff through three games in the finals. Yes,
when you're shooting thirty three percent fourteen percent from three
and giving me four points.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
All right? Yeah, and Jose Alvarado, get me a steal,
do something.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Jose Alvarado's impact goes way beyond the box score. He's
one of the few people that doesn't look like he's
afraid of Victor wembin Yama. Yeah, and he went to
Christ the King. He's a true New Yorker. Julian Champagne.
On the other side, if Julian CHAMPENNI wanted to prove
that he was a real New Yorker.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
He let the Knicks wins for a high school ever,
Price the King put.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It on the ball.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
If Champenny wants to prove that he's a true New Yorker,
should he let the Knicks win the NBA Championship.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
There is no way.
Speaker 6 (30:36):
Like like, if your family member goes into the NBA
most of the time, you would just assume they're gonna
just root for the team that you play for. There
is no way Julian Champagny's family grew up Knicks fans
and are now rooting for the Spurs against the Knicks.
His parents are wearing there. They're Carmelo Anthony and Steve
Novak jerseys.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You think Victor webin Yama's parents grew up Spurs fans.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Do you think someone has a Steve Novak jersey? McCain,
I know McCain, he has everyone's jersey.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I mean his discount double check was good.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Do you have a Langston Galloway jersey?
Speaker 6 (31:17):
I would have to check my closet. Douglas, I definitely
have a Tony Douglas jersey. I didn't know that Tony
Douglas and Harry Douglas were brothers.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Huh yeah, athletic family.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, what do you want me to do with that?
I mean, did you guys know that?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I don't know. I add to the conversation.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I don't know. We do radio. Let's reverse roles here.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Let me throw that dead fish on your lap and
tell me what you would do with it. I didn't
know Harry Douglas and Tony Douglas we're brothers, did you Huh?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
I didn't know that, because you would assume Harry Douglas
went to Louisville, Tony Douglas went to Florida State. There
wasn't really much cross over there. You've never really seen
them together. That's how you do radio, baby, or does
it getting exact?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah? But I they have the same last name, siblings
would never go to different schools.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Stud But he's doing this all. Oh, I didn't see him.
I've ever seen him together in the same last name.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Not that shocking, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Do much with it.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I handed him the ball, he didn't do much with it.
He's acting like he did more than I did with it.
Telling me how to do sports radio. I've been doing
sports radio twenty five years around here.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Don't call me Omar.
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Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thanks to Mike Golik for joining us in that last segment.
Taylor seems to with every passing hour. It seems like
he begins to gather more and more hope than the
Knicks actually gonna get this done. He's starting to get
some color back in his face. I'm starting to see
him smile again. How you feeling, Taylor? How you feeling so?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
One of the things I learned from my college days
at North Carolina. Some days on a football field, you
just have to be able to fake it. Right now,
I'm faking it. I'd much rather be part that Central
Park right now on a blanket, crying, crying away. But
that's not any good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, it's such a good. It's such a like.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That's exactly what I was thinking about this.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Earlier today, Taylor. I was like, man, I.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Wonder what it's actually like in his shoes, because you
got to wake up and pretend that that didn't happen
last night. And I'm trying to think of, like, man,
the times that my teams have lost, like in a
really poor fashion that I'm upset with.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Normally, the next day I can just ignore it altogether.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes, So the worst thing that happened to me last
night after the game. I'm walking into the car and
I got two sandwiches before the game that I brought
to the bar because it was bring your own food.
I forgot the second sandwich at the bar, left it
in the car.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
He left it in the bar. Huh wow, I left
it bar? Yeah, chicken cutlet. What was it?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
It was a grilled chicken with mozzarella and pesto sandwich.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
And it's probably bad by that point.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Anyway, that's a lot of effort into a sandwich to
leave at a bar man. You could charge thirty brother
that sanwich to New York's very happy with you, right.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Yes, we teased last week.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Somehow I never got back to it, as we tend
to do on this show that bornout. Ricardo has a
list of fifty shows that are better than Breaking Bad.
I can't, so we're gonna do them five at a time. Here,
Mikey's shaking is why are you shaking your head over?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm so because I am so mad.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You know what we are in the business of hot takes,
but every hot take we've given has a little bit
of truth behind it.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
At least like I believe this in some form of fashion.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
There is no way Ricardo thinks that these fifty shows
are better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
There's just not because there aren't.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
I find it hard to believe there are fifty shows
better than Breaking the ten shows that are better than
Breaking Bad?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Taylor, you just started watching Breaking Bad? Where are you
with this series?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So?
Speaker 6 (34:56):
I started at about two weeks ago. I finished it
in about five days. I was watching about seven episodes,
aday just just banging through.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Them, all right? Hard? Would it be inside?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You're I don't have seven hours in a day to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Would it be inside? You're just talking behind the microphone?
Would it be would it be inside? Your top ten
all time TV shows?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
So I probably haven't watched ten TV shows in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
So it does get on out of that. He's too
busy watching sports.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's breaking bad in the Sopranos. That's probably
my one and two.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
All right, So how do we want to do this?
Do we have music for it? We'll do five at
a time. Bord up Ricardo claims that he has fifty
shows better than what many considered to be the best
show in the history on television, but bored up Ricardo says, no,
it's fifty one on my list.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So we'll count down here from fifty. We'll do it
five at a time.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
It's like it's like the Bleacher Reports top one hundred
NBA players of all time. So bordout Ricardo taken away,
I mean, I just how do you get to fifty?
Speaker 5 (36:01):
It's a list of the top twenty five players better
than Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
That's what this is. It is a perfect way to
put it in.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yes, yes, no, put it on the pole tailor. Is
Breaking Bad the Michael Jordan of TV shows? Because I'm
with Izzy Lebron.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Actually earlier, I was actually talking to my friend about it,
and I said, Breaking Bad is the Alex Smith of
TV shows.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
All right, try to replace him, Patrick Mahomes, what average?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (36:28):
I mean, Andy Reid, you have some nerve? All right,
go ahead, give us number fifty here. This is the
fiftieth be best show according to bordop Ricardo, the fiftieth
show that is better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Golden Girls. Oh, it's a good one. You gotta go
five in a row.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
You gotta go five in a row?
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Right? Oh? No, no, no it doesn't have to.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I mean we could stop and comment on each Do
you have any quite like follow ups before he starts.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
The list here? Or yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Do we have fifty minutes in this segment?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So the first one, number fifty is Golden Girls. There's
no there's no fanfare. Alright, alright, all right, I can't
really just well, it's not better than Breaking Bad, but
it was a good ship.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
It's nine percent themes saw way better than Breaking Bad.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
I mean the stories on Saint Olaf alone are worth
its own TV show. Number forty nine, Board Out, Rigardo, we.
Speaker 9 (37:20):
Got White Lotus on HBO, Get out of Here.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yea, Taylor's making a face. It's a face he made
when Wemby broke him out of here.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Well, Taylor's never seen it.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
He's only seen two TV shows, so he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I have seen White Lotus.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
It's it was not better than Break Welcome on because
I always say this about White Lotus, and clearly this
is going to have to be a list that goes
on for weeks because we're not going to get them
all here. But the thing about White Lotus is it's
effectively a limited series every single season, so you can
do something completely different every season.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
It's a little unfair on the list, but I definitely
like it all right. Number forty eight, it's not better
than Breaking Bad, though.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
I mean, it's not even closed to rewatch Number forty eight, Ricardo,
go ahead, this is outraging all of us.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Go ahead six feet under my first disagreement.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
So I'm not disputing that any of these shows are
good shows. I'm just saying they're not better than the
Michael Jordan of TV shows.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Six Feet Under was the first show that I said
to myself, get over yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It is.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
It's a little and they're trying too hard.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
They're trying too hard. Yeah, all right, it insists upon itself.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
There it is.
Speaker 9 (38:26):
It was an early prestige TV show. They were still
trying to get their feet under them easy.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
The only thing I really remember about that show is
how many people wanted to get the part of the
dead body like that was a huge thing in Hollywood.
I want to play the dead person on six feet under.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
The knicks Field six feet under. Right, Now, let's go
to number forty seven. Sorry, Taylor, I'm hurting today. Taylor's
going the other way. He's getting life back in them.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
I'm going I God, I'm terrified.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Now, bake it till you make it.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Forty seven Sanford and Son. That's a good show, me, Jesus,
that's a good show. All right. Taylor's never seen half
of the what are we even talking? I've seen any
of these ten? You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Yeah, that couldn't That show couldn't work these days because
his famous lineup, I'm coming Elizabeth would be heard totally
different there.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
All right, we'll get to five more tomorrow, but number
forty six.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
According to bordop Ricardo, the forty six television show that
is better than Breaking Bad the British Office, So the
office in England says your.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Original if you will h the original is not done
as well. So somewhere on this list, probably in the
top ten, is the American Office. I understand, I.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Don't think so. I mean, all of this, are you know?
I mean all this begs the question have you seen
Breaking Bad? Ricardo?
Speaker 4 (39:41):
I have, I have, and kind of mediocre if you
ask me.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
We need a good night's sleep and hopefully we'll wake
up in a better mood. I mean, Jesus, The Knicks
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