April 8, 2026 • 52 mins
Stugotz & Company react to Michigan's big win over UConn to claim the national title, Justin Jackson joins the show, Think About It Thursday (on a Tuesday), and guessing reactions to a Tom Rinaldi Masters story.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,
please put it on the pole at Steve got seven
ninety one X. When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico
smiling on the inside? Also, are you a bench below
the court guy?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Or no?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Hm?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't like it. It scares me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is Lloy Vaught
sitting around going, hey.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
What about us? Oh?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And the other Michigan you double double machine? Yes?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yes, what do you mean? What about us?
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or in that team in particular,
like that team has been mentioned, just the Fab.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Five getting all the you know praise.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
They didn't win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson,
Glenn Rice.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They won a national championship, No one talks about it.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
If it was the first question on that pole.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico smiling on the inside?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm smiling on the inside.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I just told you I saw a video of him
at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,
and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's
just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but
Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You could spend a day with one group, the Fab five.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Who you got.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Fab five currently? I'm sorry for the follow up.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So this is the modern Crently this is Fab five?
Then this is the modern day Fab five. What happened
last night? Those are five guys all came through the
transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern
day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to
see five freshmen come in at the same time and
make a run to the championship game and then lose.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We're never going to see that again.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But you had five guys come together through the portal
from different schools playing in their first season together.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And they went on to win a national championship instead
of the Fab five since their transfers.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Can we call them the trans five? No, I don't
think we can do that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I don't know, can we I don't think we can.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That
is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.
Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.
He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph.
Speaker 7 (02:44):
Wow, I would love Willie Randolph.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I know you did.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Anybody got a number for him?
Speaker 8 (02:49):
I do?
Speaker 9 (02:49):
Willie Randolph. I graduated with his daughter. He was the
commencement speaker at my graduation.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Gosh, I wish you hadn't told him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let me seriously, so, Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously
to be on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Is it your thoughts last night? Dan Hurley going for.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Three national championships over the last four years.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He still has two. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Made it into the final game three times in four years.
I'm not certain how many people like him. But the
alternative is, you know, is a coach that people from
Michigan that people find to be very boring.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I mean so Yukon has done so much winning overall
but also lately under Hurley. Yeah that I forgot that
they won back to back championships, like when they were
going for three out of four because I said this
and thank you guys for not noticing and you know,
picking up my mistakes. But I said at some point
about the Gators not repeating. I think I said the
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last team to repeat won't be the next team to repeat. Yeah,
completely forgetting that Yukon just repeated a couple of years ago,
and so my bad for that retroactively. You know what's
crazy is last night felt like a game that Yukon
was going to steal, Yes and forever be that championship team, right,
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the team that had the grit that found away.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But Michigan was ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously surprised.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
When Seth Davis pig Michigan.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
It all so the level of you know that my
voice got when I said, really he picked them.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
To be fair to us.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We were fresh off the Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We
thought they were the best team in the country, and
we learned that they weren't.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has
been the best team in this tournament the entire time.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
And I remember back in two thousand and was it
six or seven, which everyone was the first one of
the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White
Chocolate Jason Williams was on the Miami Heat at the time,
and as a former Gator we used to chat about.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
And after the second round of that tournament and this
is the Gators that weren't supposed to win it that
year that played George Washington et cetera second game of
that tournament, we both looked at each other and said,
they're the best team in the tournament. Yeah, And that's
because I was watching intently, right, If I was watching
intently as closely as I was that tournament, for this tournament,
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Michigan was so obvious.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It was so obvious. They're huge.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,
you can't really get great shots around that size. And
then they have enough guard play, enough shooting, and enough
talent around them where it's just like it's a better
version of last year's Gators.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, so big.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches
that are a little bit lower.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Vanderbilt has that right at their home arena.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches
are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta
yell all the way over there to talk to my coach.
But that somehow, some way makes the players look like
well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,
that they're on a stage and then you throw in
their height and they look even taller.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Somehow.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I was terrified for Tracy Wilson. I was anyone else?
Put it on the pole tailor where you're terrified.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
For Tracy will Wolfson.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes
a picture next to the tallest player that she interviewed,
and it's just.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Laugh out loud and funny. The discrepancy.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.
I feel bad for Reid on Yukon. Yeah, because he
transferred from Michigan to Yukon and now he's been at
Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those
teams have won three titles. He has zero.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Just can't get it right. I mean, he just can't
the problem wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
He was great on the boards. I don't know if
he was the problem.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
He was so nice about his situation, and he was
like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Love those guys.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
He had a great chance at Yukon, looked amazing, was huge,
and the Duke comeback win only to come up short.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But that seems impossible that he would be on both
those teams. They won three national championships in four years
and he hasn't won one.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have
three championships right now.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And if I'm reading mikey a correctly, he is the problem.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't
care how hard he hit the boards last night.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
He's the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
There you go future, Nick.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Jetan whatever.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.
But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,
Michigan was the best team all year, and in a
sport like March Madness, a sport like college basketball, it
does feel kind of rare to get to the end
of the season and be like, oh, the unquestioning best
team won the tournament. With how random it is to
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a point where it does feel like an extra reason
to celebrate this Michigan team.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Just dating back to last year, for example, there's no
way anybody in the first three months of the season
would have said Florida was your national champion and then
they just got hot at the right time. This was
absolutely one of those years from start to finish, the
three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the difference
that the point differential in these games in the tournament
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just goes to show you when they're locked in, doesn't
matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen to
twenty point advantage.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here, Okay, Michigan last
night became the first team since two thousand and nine
right to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins
these tournaments. Dan Hurley said it it's a one game scenario.
Once you get to the NCAA tournament, you have to
win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan
in a best of seven, of course you would take Michigan.
But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,
and Hurley said this, does the best team in college
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basketball win the national championship. You can go back to
you know, NC State winning it, Villanova beating Georgetown. Georgetown
was the best team in the country that year, but
in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,
play four corners on offense, and milk the clock and
win that game.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And so you rarely get the best team winning the
NCAA tournament.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
It's odd And that's why I feel like coaching a
little bit more important in college basketball in terms of
winning the championship, yes, than it is in NBA basketball,
because over a seven game series, you put you know,
eight talented NBA, smart NBA players out there, they can
figure it out from one game to the next. In
a one game setting, your coach has to have you
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absolutely ready, and Taylor not to go off on a
side tangent here. But the more I think about the
Michael Malone hire, the more I like it for UNC
because he's just established as somebody you have to listen to,
and when you do listen to him, he hammers home
defensive principles and wants you to play that hard all
the time. And frankly, if you're a college kid with
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any sort of skill and you play that hard and
listen to him, you're gonna do well.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I think Taylor is starting to come around to Michael Malone.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, warming up. I wish you would go by Mike
Malone sometimes, just because it's a little it's a lot
easier to just say Mike Malone when you're talking as
much as we are.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I don't have to call him Michael, do I Because
I'm not going to call him Michael. I mean, he's
Mike Malone.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
I call him coach.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I call Mike Maloney.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Well what all the time?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
When did we stop saying coach something and start calling
them by their full names? Because I remember back in
the day, like even in college, we were encouraged to say, hey,
coach Spurrier or coach Meyer.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I think if you're a coach or a coach for life.
I mean, that's it. Yeah, you tell you think that.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, But I'm just wondering when we started using full
names on coaches, because it used to be understood it
it's cool if we just call him coach or coach
and his last name.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I think at some point these big jay journalists started
pushing back on that, being like, hey, I went to
journal in school. I'm not calling anybody coach. And then
somebody said it disrespectful. Somebody said it to me.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Are you looking at is he?
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Somebody said it to Dion Sanders, and Dion was like,
call me coach. Yeah, well, and then it's right, yep, exactly,
coach Prime. I'm with him.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, he was specifically wanted you to call him coach Prime,
which to me is a little bit of an issue.
But in terms of calling somebody coach versus their first name,
I kind of understand that. Like, I don't think that
you're demeaning the journalist by saying, hey, call me coach.
It's just what you're used to. It's just what you
want to hear, and I'm totally fine with it. It's
not disrespectful of the person calling you coach.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I sent a text to Phil Martelli Junior, who joined
US a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Ago, and he's gonna a me more sports radio.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I sent them a text. I sent it as
coach Martelli. He said, call me Phil. I said, I
will not do that, and he said, okay, because I
respect the coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Once you're a coach, you're always a coach. I mean,
listen the bartender and cheers. We called him coach. Well
after he was done coaching and he was bartending. I
don't think coachman coach how about that.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'm not gonna lie. Until this moment, I did not
know he was a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But I think if you're a coach, you have earned
You've earned that. They all want to be called coach.
They do, don't they. I think, well, you think Bobby
Knight wanted to be called Bobby Get out of here.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I think college coaches, in particular, because they're you know,
they're athletes, their pupils will call.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Them coach more often than not. It just feels right.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
And when you're moving from your players to the journalists,
I don't mind just requesting it. Like if it's an
ego thing, fine, it's not gonna hurt my ego to
call you coach, just answer my questions.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Is he One of the other things I've seen what
Michael Malone is that Mike one of the biggest complaints
of him in the NBA was it was kind of
his way or the highway correct, and some people do
think that will translate well to the college basketball world,
where you're not really having to deal You're having to
deal with the nil and recruiting, but you're not really
having to deal with the ego so much. Once they're
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on campus.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You pretty much only have to deal with in terms
of any sort of egos colliding is your own assistance.
And if you hire people, maybe you know the ad,
but he's not going to come tell you basketball in denounced.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
He's just going to deal with the whole program.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
So yeah, I think if you can hire assistance that
you can communicate properly with this is exactly the arena
for him because it is his way or the highway.
As it is with most college coaches. They don't take
a lot of anything from anybody and it's just their way,
and frankly, the second it shows to work, then they're
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just going to dig in and do it even more
and it's going to double down, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
So you almost have to establish that if you're a
college coach.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
The most impressive thing about Michigan, if you asked Dan
Hurley before the game, where do you want this game played,
meaning in terms of numbers score, he would tell you
in the sixties that's the best chance I have at
beating Michigan. And it was sixty nine to sixty three,
and he's still lost. Michigan defends very well and Michigan's
best player was hurt, and they still got it done
(14:05):
and they still won the national championship.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to
say because they like to be very nice to these
college players.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Hey, Alex Caraban hit a shot man, that.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Dude was I think he was zero for five before
that one that he hit to get the Duke rally going,
So he was what one for six maybe one for
five in that game, and this when he ends.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Up three for ten.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Two of those who are pretty late and they kind
of nothing.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Situation, My guy, if you're the senior that everybody loves,
give me some moments in the last game.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I am so proud of you. I really I've never
been more attracted to you.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
He is he When when I have Michigan in the
bracket pool to win and I didn't hedge before, I'm
going into that game and I'm counting, I'm counting the money.
When Michigan's up double digits, then they cut it to four,
Yukon starts pressing. Caravan puts up a three to cut
it to yep, and my heart dropped to the floor.
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And then I saw it clang off the rim and
I was like.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That's God.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Even the one where the fast break where they could
have cut it back to four again, and they blew
that one because they kind of rushed the shot a
little bit when the defense was coming. They could have
slowed it down. I was like, Man, Yukon has had
so many opportunities, and that's why I said they're so
well coached. They were so ready to steal this one,
but it just wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Taylor the Sea and Caravan stands for clank. He's been
to three.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Final fours in four it it's also a cab Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I don't care, that's the joke.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, Jesus, I was just gonna ask you if
it knew.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But I can't believe we're passing that kid today. I
mean he went to three title games in four years
and won.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Two of them.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Well, they're gonna have to replace him, Yes, Justin Jackson
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a twoenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,
CONSETTSUS First Team All American, played at Carolina.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Taylor loves him. He loves Taylor, and he's doing media
work for phil as MBA. He hasn't an NBA champion
as well. I love that app. And he's doing media.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Stuff for the Field of sixty eight. What are you
doing with Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Man, I'm just filling it whenever they need me.
Speaker 11 (17:01):
And then I guess at the start of January, I
started with the ACC network too, So we're just kind
of seeing where this goes.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I see your jersey from college hanging right behind you
on the wall. Do you have a jersey hanging anywhere
in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's somewhere up there.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you walk in the gym
you can find it somewhere, but I'm not totally sure
where it might be.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
When you say somewhere, you mean in the rafters of
the Dean Dome, right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
I'm pretty sure it's up there with some with some
other other jerseys that they decided to hang up.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So I'm definitely blessed for that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your
jersey is hanging in Chapel Hill?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
So I have one at Pantana Bob's, and then one
at the pizza reap three.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Be more specific, Yes, right next to the bathroom pantana.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Bob that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's a legend, so I can see it. I can
definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I want to start with the National Championship Game, but
I feel like that would be a waste of times.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Mike Maloney, Michael alone becoming the next head coach at
North Carolina. It's a totally on North Carolina thing to do,
to go outside.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Of the family. What were your thoughts.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever
you start to you start to break down the fact
that his daughter is at.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
School when he was fired.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
If I'm not mistaken, he did a lot of He
spent a good amount of time around the program, whether
that was at practices with the coaches, things like that.
So once I thought about that and added that up,
I wasn't too shocked. Now I am shocked because in
my opinion, I didn't think he should have been fired
from the NBA. So I was a little more shocked
from the standpoint of if he's getting back into coaching,
(18:38):
I'm sure there's NBA jobs available, but look, we'll take them.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
We'll definitely take them.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
I think a lot of people are excited to kind
of see what his name brings. Obviously his coaching speaks
for itself, being an NBA champion, but kind of what
he brings and kind of what the new look of
the Tarios will look like.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Justin I kind of want to circle back to the
previous coach and obviously you want a championship with Roy.
What was the problem then with Hubert? What wasn't the
same from one coach to the next.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean, it's tough.
Speaker 11 (19:09):
Coach Williams, in my opinion, is, if not the best,
one of the best college basketball coaches of all time, right,
So to have somebody come in right after that, it's
going to be some really massive shoes to fill. When
you look at Coach Davis's, you know, five years, most
people would say it was a pretty successful five years
of coaching, right. And I think that's what's so difficult
(19:31):
for the coaches that come through North Carolina is when
you talk about the standard, the standard's pretty high, right,
and that standard was set from not just Coach Williams,
Coach Smith, all the coaches that have come through and
the players that have come through. And so I think
the difficult part was people had this image of what,
you know, that standard of North Carolina basketball is, and
(19:52):
I think at times didn't take into account the changing
landscape of college basketball as well, right, And I think
that's kind of where you saw it. And then obviously
that loss to VCU was a tough one. And I
think when that happened, I mean I've said this multiple times.
If they win, and they even go on to lose
by thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the
discussion of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I
(20:14):
think we're talking about what transfers are we going to
get in, what recruits are coming in, that whole sort
of thing. And so I think that's the difficult part
of it was. I think the VCU game for a
lot of people, especially in the decision making process, kind
of saw that as you know, do we make the
decision to go in a different route or do we
bring them back?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And obviously, you know they decided to go in a
different route.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job,
one of the things that always comes up is they
have to understand what it means to be a part
of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part
of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family
look like to you and kind of mean to you?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
I mean, it looks different for me and probably the
majority of former players, right it looks like going back
in the summer and playing pick up. It looks like
going back for camp, playing in the camp game versus
the current players coming back for games throughout the season
and kind of feeling the love and walking through that
tunnel and feeling that that, to me is what Carolina
family is about.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But it also goes deeper.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Than that, right, Like I'll never forget my first time
playing against Marvin Williams in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And I had really met.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and
you know, we met up at half court during warm
ups and it was as if we had interacted a
ton before, right, And so it just goes deeper than that,
And so I think that's something that can translate. Obviously
he doesn't have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball,
but I think it can go it can stay the
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same even with somebody new it the head.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,
I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious
from what you've learned or what you've figured out or
knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially
well that translated to the college students at the time.
Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you
think he has in his coaching bag if you will, well.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I mean you talk about I mean, he's a genius
when it comes to x's and o's, right, like you
talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached. Obviously
he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and then
a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the two
guys at the top. But that also goes back to
coaching as well. He was there from the beginning with
those guys, right, He put things around around them, a
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system and things like that.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge part of.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It, exactly.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being
able to find good talent and the transfer portal and
things like that, you've got to have an eye for
that right. You don't have guys that are just staying
three four years like coach Williams was obviously blessed to
have and guy stayed because it was coach Williams in
North Carolina. But you don't have that necessarily now and
so you got to be able to in a you know,
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a few weeks really nowadays, you got to be able
to say, Okay, you know what, that fits what I'm
trying to do. This fits what I'm trying to do.
And I think Mike Malone did that great with Denver
and it's funny. You know, people have talked about how
he's like an old school coach, right, and how he
holds everybody accountable. That was one of the things that
coach Williams always did right. It didn't matter if it
was me the acc player of the Year my junior year,
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or if it was a walk on in practice right
that didn't do something correct. He was going to hold
whoever it was accountable because it was a bigger goal.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think that's something.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
That obviously, you know, you got to kind of taper
back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,
You're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.
But I think that's something that can translate well to
to you know, kind of coming into this program of hey,
we've got a certain standard and a system that we're
running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind
of falls into the Carolina way or the family that
you want to talk about.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that
fit what he wants to do. How much of it
is bringing in the right people to do what you
want to do versus adapting what you do to what
you have.
Speaker 11 (24:03):
I think it's a good mix, honestly, and that's kind
of why I think when you look at the people
that he's going to bring it around him, I think
it's important to have people that have been around the
college space for a while right have seen the differences
and the changes and the transitions that we've seen through
college basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in
as far as player development or things like that. I
think that's really key as well. And so I think,
you know, when you talk about him as a coach,
it's going to be just as important the staff and
the people that come in around him. And it also
goes as far as you know, who are we bringing
in from the transfer portal, right like now with the
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freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,
but also what maybe we still have there when he
comes in or things like that. So it's I think
that's going to be the big thing to see, is
that transition for him, but also the help that he
has with him through that transition.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,
how much of that skeptic do you think comes from
what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
All of it.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I was waiting for Bill Belichick question. I mean the
tough part about where college sports is in general, right
is you have to have the money.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Period like that. That's just the way it is. And
I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any decision
making rooms. I'm not any really.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Any any conversations when it comes to decision making for
any athletics at North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But if you don't have the money, and you.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
Don't have the money to pay players, then you could
have a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just
might not translate, right, And so I think that's another
aspect of not only the staff that you know, Mike
Malone brings in, but also making sure that we have
the money to be able to divvy out to these
players that maybe they're wanting to go after to now
bring in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once
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you have the talent sitting in the locker room. And
so I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody
asked me, I think it was this morning. Actually they
asked me about kind of the whole brand conversation, right,
and when you talk about the brand of these different teams,
North Carolina, Duke Kansas, everybody's taking a hit, right, The
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brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one conversation
that you're having is the money aspect. How much can
I get? You know, like where can I sign on
the dot line for this? And then we'll talk about okay,
you know what. I like that interlocking and see right
like that's that's just the reality of college sports now.
And so I think if we have that in place
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and we have good people around coach Malone. I think
his ability to coach and his ability to hold people
accountable and have a certain standard, I think we could
I think we could be right back to where we
need to be.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on
the university.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Rewind like a year and a half. He'd be like, Wow, Billalich, Yes,
now it's just like Noll Belichick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So justin if I told you you could hand pick
any coach you wanted to be the next head coach
at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,
who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Right now?
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because
now that I'm in the media space.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I have to try to be as unbiased as possible.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
It depends on it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The guy, the guy down.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
The road at Duke is doing an unbelievable job, right
I would never say, hey, we need to go, we
need to go grab him.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Be careful their soul though.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Is But but when I like when when the conversations
were happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is TJ.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Alsoberg at Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I
see the Michigan hat. He just won a national championship, right,
He's a really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love
Tommy Lloyd. So there was good option and all the
names that were thrown around. And I also see from
their perspective of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the
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nil come in where I'm at. I can build a
program up exactly how I want it to be, and
I'm not having to come in kind of with the
circumstances that North Carolina has been in. So I can
see it from both sides. But those coaches, I mean,
I don't think you could have went wrong with any
of them. And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher,
I don't think it's a panic or a settle by
any means. So I think it's it's exciting to have
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him in.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But those are some of the coaches I liked.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?
Speaker 11 (28:39):
Who team construction? I think it has to be in
the conversation. I will say that, wow, no big. I
mean the tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan
really didn't even play well and they still won a
national championship. Right, And so I think that you know,
when you talk about it, For me, the best team
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TA ever assembled is and in my mind is that
Kentucky team that we played against, that Platoon team. They
didn't even win a national championship, but that team was
loaded from one to ten. But I mean, you have
to you look at some of these I mean they
went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,
like five or six games in a row and things
like that, So I mean they got to be I
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guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,
they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona, and what they
did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they
were the best team in college basketball at that point.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Stu.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
What you might not be aware of is that me
and Justin used to play video games together and I
would use Justin as a sounding board for some of
my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when
it comes to March Madness that I want to run
by you. One shining moment is the most overrated tradition
in all of sports blasphemy.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the
teams that don't win it. I will say that for
the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't
want to hear.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
None of that.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
The year that we lost in the championship, turn it off, please.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something
that you've always seen and you know, you kind of
fall into that aspect and it's pretty special once they
show you at the end of it. But I mean,
it's not a bad It's not a bad take when
it comes to the teams that you know, when it
comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a
terrible take.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Can I go back real quick? What was that best
team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
What was that?
Speaker 11 (30:41):
I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played tea deep,
Book played like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I mean they had guys everywhere.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had
Willy kley Stein, they had everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, you're in the media game now, like you got
you understand what they're doing with one shining moment.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Right, it's just to keep you around till midnight. You
get it, right, I mean it's.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
You gotta keep you gotta keep people locked in as
as best as you can. So I definitely understand from
that perspective too.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But there are no shotting moments. Only one team as
a shining moment, is what you're saying.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had
crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that
are at home watching it like doesn't have It's not
the same. It's not the same feeling as you being
up there on the stage watching it.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Like.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You play tailor and video games? Who wins more you? Taylor?
Speaker 11 (31:38):
You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got
two kids now and me and Vip have not played.
I mean it's been a it's been a minute at
this point, Like this was during.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
My kids will do that so lot.
Speaker 11 (31:48):
Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,
road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,
but Zip it depended on what game. Majority of the time,
video games was kind of my my spot.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
He's being very humble, right, now, I'm certain he is.
He's being very humble right now. Whenever we would play
a shooter video game, he would have to carry me
and I was just his backpack.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Gladly.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
He was a great He was a guy you know,
you need guy got your back.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
You know what I'm saying. I just have the visuals.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
They might not ever do anything really, but they're at
least gonna have great call outs and.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
They're gonna have great communication that everywhere.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Most of the pros have a hand eye coordination that
the rest of us don't know about.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
So it helps with video games too.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Does he still wear you at with sports takes or what?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know?
Speaker 11 (32:35):
He there for a while, he would, he would come
in pretty hot with him.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He hasn't.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
He hasn't come with anything really here lately. I'm sure
now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll start getting
you know, I'm sorry, I mean, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Always down for him because I love a little back
and forth.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
So all right, justin we appreciate the time. I'd like
to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is
going to continue to bother you. Check out his work.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, man, check out his work field of sixty eight.
We appreciate it, man, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
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Speaker 1 (33:35):
We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,
so of course we're going to do a think about
It Thursday.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I think we're off Thursday, and so that's why we're
doing it today.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yes, well, I mean I am so Taylor wants to
do it today. So we need the image of guys.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
You know that segment talk about It Tuesday on Hawkman
Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big
and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think
about it Thursday on a Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Welcome in. You think about it Thursday on a Tuesday. Yes,
so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired Patrick Waugh yep as
their head coach. They replaced him with Peter de Boor.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And when you hear the name Debor, you think kayland
Boor at Alabama yep. So the think about it Thursday
is who would do better coaching the other person's sport?
Peter DeBoer coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylan de Boor
now coaching the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'll put it on the poll first. When you think
Peter de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan
de Boor. No, So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor
be a better hockey coach than Peter Debor would be
a college football coach?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Wow, I'm thinking.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yes, now, let's not really taking that lot and I
usually save all my thinking for Thursday.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
This is this is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so
you know, oh no, we're off. Never mind.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, I.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
This feels like a very clear answer here where Kaylin
de Borr is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You give
him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,
I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,
not nearly as much pressure.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
He's not. You know, he's not replacing Nick Saban.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Listen, You're not replacing al Arbor who in the eighties
won four straight Stanley Cups with the Islanders, went to
a fifth, lost to Edmonton, and then Gretzky went on
a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody. I mean, I think
Kaylin de Boor would be a great hockey coach.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
I say this having lived in the New York market
for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like
that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I would if I'm Kaylin Duboor. I'm trying to make
this happen.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, yes, right, As opposed to being the eye on
their coach. No one cares. I mean geez, yeah, no
we cares, right. I mean, you know whatever, Mike and
Garden City Billion Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach.
They're the only people that care if the Islanders are good.
Speaker 13 (36:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
So, has Taylor d Boor actually won anything?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
No, I mean Peter de Boor has gotten closed and
never actually won anything either. But I think Kaylen's been
further away from real winning than Peter.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Has he lost to the championship to Michigan.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Outside of that, because he's got a lot of Coach
of the Years in his resume, but not a lot
of championships.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away
from winning the whole damn thing.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So the answer is no, because he didn't win that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company
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Speaker 1 (37:09):
So we crowned a national champion last night. Michigan wins
the national championship.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
And actually get a crown, do they?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
But we crowned one, which means I could shift my
focus over to Augusta. I'm very excited because this gets
underway tomorrow. Bomani Jones will join us at about fifteen minutes.
Thank you, iyoha, Sam. We needed that, we needed another one.
Thank you appreciate it. Is he when you think of
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some of the great storytellers of all time in sports media,
who is second place to me?
Speaker 10 (37:49):
You got that one, well done, well done.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I was gonna say your Finney story, It's just it
sticks in my head for life. I would say.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
The person that is used more like a verb or
and adjective is Tom Ernaldi. Yes, good guess, because yeah,
I was always wanting to be the next Tom Ronaldi,
or if I'm going to Tom Ronaldi.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
This thing by making people cry, that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
This is the best week on the sports calendar for me.
And I don't feel like is he is into it.
I'm not certain Tailor's into it because he's still focused
on Carolina and who's going to get the coaching job,
even though they gave the coaching job to Mike Maloney already,
Mike Malone. He is praying that that gets reversed somehow.
It seems like I'm on board with it, are you really?
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I'm trying to book Tyler Hansbrough right now, psychot.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
How that, by the way, it is college basketball player
of all time.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Don't correct yourself anymore when you say Maloney, I know.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That, right, I know, I know so Tom Ronaldi, mikey
I want to play a game, and Dan Byer, if
you're close to a microphone, please come over.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I think you will like this, Okay, mikey A.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Tom Ronaldi was on Stegatson Company couple of years ago,
right before the Masters, and we had a great discussion
with him about the course, about the tournament, what that
place means to so many you know, kinds of people.
And I am wondering here there are only three options. Tears, goosebumps,
or I don't give a bleep. Okay, So I'm going
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to play the sound it's like six minutes long because
Tom Ronaldi, like myself, is a great storyteller, and he
takes a minute to tell this story, but it is
worth it. And so I am asking you, Taylor, tears, goosebumps,
or I don't give a bleep. I don't want Taylor's answer.
I want mikey A's prediction.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Taylor, I had a hard time placing him. I'm going
to give him I don't give a bleep.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Okay? How about is he goosebumps?
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Definite goosebumps?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
How just because he likes storytelling, right, good storytelling, He's going.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
To appreciate that the big j of the journalism of
it all.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Okay, born out Ricardo, what do you think?
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Uh he doesn't mention baseball, I'm gonna say, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
How about Iowa Sam?
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Iowa Sam is gonna be uh not goosebumps?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Okay, not listening right, doesn't care? Ep Jason is he here?
Speaker 7 (40:19):
He's not here?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Okay, so we don't care about him today? And how
about Dan Bayern? Because I hand Buyer's full on tears weeping, yes,
fully weeping.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's a special place, it's a special week, it's a
special tournament. And here's just one example of why. This
is me with Tom Ronaldi a couple of years ago.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
But a weird game for ten million dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Okay, Tom, this is such an odd game, but I
have to ask it.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
It's you, it's Scott van Pelt, and of course it's
Jim Nance.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Ten million dollars goes to the person with the coolest
story involving Augusta.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Tom Ronaldi is pulling out what story?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
So? I had a chance to play Augusta National a
few times, but the last time I played, I was
invited by a member. He had invited me and two others.
We had the date. We were going to come in,
stay at the cabin overnight. We were going to play
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the afternoon before, have dinner, get up the next morning,
play again, and leave. The member is just a wonderful,
wonderful guy. And a week before Stude, the member calls
me and says, one of the other members of the
foursome can't make it. You can bring anyone you want.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (41:47):
So I call my brother and he could not get
out of a work obligation. My brother works for the
Federal Reserve and he had this he had to go
to Washington and he could not get out of it.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
He should.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
The person I called Stu is a great friend of mine, Kevin,
who I've known for more than twenty five years at
that point, without getting into all the details, he he'd
suffered a terrible, terrible loss, he'd lost an infant child,
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and he loves golf, he loves the Masters. And I
called the member and I said to the member, this
is the person that I'm that I'm I'd like to invite,
but I want you to know why, because he's been
through the most difficult thing any person can go through,
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and he's found a way to continue to keep his
family together, to be a great father to his other children,
to be a great husband. He's shown so much heart
through so much pain. And we're playing and there's a
moment to where Kevin is out walking in front of
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myself and the member on eleven and he's just sort
of strolling and looking around. He's distanced from the caddy.
He's just walking down eleven fair Way by himself. And
the member who I guarantee has taken dozens and dozens
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and dozens of people in to the gates down Magnolia
Lane to stay in a cabin, to share this magical
place and experience. You would think he had never done
it before. And he stopped me and he put his
hand on my shoulder and he gestured toward my friend
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out fifty sixty yards in front of us, and he
said quietly, that's augusta God. And I choked up, like
I can't even tell you about what that meant to me.
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That the member who's such a wonderful, wonderful guy, had
the generosity of heart and spirit, had the perspectives to
he's been a member there for a long time. Again,
he shared this experience with so many people, but the
fact that he gave me this additional opportunity. This was
the person I chose, and it meant that much to him,
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not to me, to him that he would stop me
and say, look at that, look at what he's feeling,
look at how he's appreciating it, whatever he's thinking through
remembering feeling. That's Augusta, that's why you come here, And
to me, to the day I die, I will never
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ever forget that moment with that member and my friend
out in.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
Front of us and the member.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I'm certain Tom is saying, hey, just leave him alone,
let him enjoy the moment, let him take it all in, right,
That's what he was there, just peace.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
He just said, I want you to just hang back
for a minute. Just look at him, look at him,
what he's what he's experiencing right now. That's the gift
to this place, right. And you know, did my friend
play particularly well? No? Did it matter to the member zero.
(45:53):
The only thing that mattered to that member was that
this man had gone through terrible loss and this day,
this drive down Magnolia Lane, staying in the cabin, having dinner,
(46:14):
getting up the next morning, all of it. He knew
we are going to give this man a gift of
a day. He deserves it. I don't even know him.
He's a friend of yours, you're a friend of mine,
and this place is in some small way for this
(46:36):
period of time. Dude, going to let him heal, going
to let his heart heal. And I'll tell you my
friend talks to me about that thirty hours, right, multiple
(46:58):
times a year, multuple times a year. Love it, I
have Ay, that's my story about Augusta.
Speaker 10 (47:05):
You won the ten million dollars the second you opened
your mouth, right, the second and the second.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
You open your mouth, you won the ten million dollars.
A gay, all right, Taylor, So let's get your real
answer here. Tears because I was crying. Wait wait, wait, wait,
and I was there for it. Is crying.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Laughing also an option, not because I'm insensitive, but I'll
explain later.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay, Yes, I don't care how you cry. I mean,
you can cry because you're laughing at me. You can
cry because it was an emotional story told by one
of the great storytellers second place to me in the
history of sports media.
Speaker 10 (47:38):
Dude could spin a yard.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I mean, he's so good it's unbelievable. Oh, my god,
is he good?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
H Taylor tears, goosebumps or I don't give up bleep?
Speaker 7 (47:48):
So I was on the fence until we got this.
Speaker 13 (47:52):
Augusta one more time, ricardoff, that's Augusta.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah the pause, Yeah, let me hear it one more
time so I can.
Speaker 13 (48:00):
That's Agusta.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
And I know what you're trying to do, sir. You're
trying to pigeonhole me to say something bad about Tom
or Nole. I dare you you want me to say
that he only has one note and he's gonna tell
that same exact story. Yeah, forty different ways.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
I would never I would never even consider it. That
thought never even crossed my mind.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All right, So goosebumps, Yeah, goosebumps, bumps. Hold on a second,
let's go to board out, Ricardo. I have a feeling
he didn't give a bleep.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yeah, I'm watching.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
I got you pegged.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Let's go to uh Iowa, Sam, I'm pretty certain he's
also watching Paralta.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Go ahead, Iowa, Sam. Well, I'm looking at my arms.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I see a few small little I guess they'd be goosebumps.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
So that's Agusta, baby, goosebumps that's a gust all right.
That means you're alive.
Speaker 13 (48:49):
I'm alive. That's for the people in the back.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes, I'm gonna go to Dan. Last year, Israel Gutierrez
was laughing. He was snorting during it. He was disrespecting,
and he's a storyteller.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
I mean, all right.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
So my first reaction, literally when I heard Ronaldi's voice,
immediate goosebumps before the stage. Just like that, they just
appeared on my arms with a sound that said, here's
the goose bumps.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
That's that's what happens when you got goosebumps.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Yet and then they immediately just hid under my skin.
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 6 (49:22):
Once he said that's Augusta, because it wasn't even a
Ronaldi thing. It was this member. It is a little
full of himself and the course, okay, like the man
lost a child.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
I'm pretty sure he would have been emotional, and.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Regardless of the setting, this just happens to be a
very pretty one in which he gets to play golf.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
It's the healing powers of Augusta. Are you listening to Tom?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
That's like the warners of Lake Minnetonka.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Augusta.
Speaker 13 (49:49):
That's Augusta thank you.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
And then what brought out the tears was when I
was crying, laughing at your reactions. Crying, Well you should
if you would have just cut out everything else and
just put Stu Gott's's noises in there.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
They're the number of things.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
You could have been doing, and it's not always listening
to Tom Ronaldy talk about golf.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
In Magnolia Lane. So I got ab in. Oh.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
My answer is I felt all the things except for
the item Giva believe I did not feel that whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But you felt the full range of emotions there, including laughter.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
Well done, well worth the six minutes I have, go ahead, Taylor.
Speaker 7 (50:28):
Some people might say that the only thing they felt
was that six and a half minutes probably could have
been two and a half minutes, but it could have
been not me, and again not me.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't think it. It's a dangerous game. It's Tom Rnaldi, Okay,
He's a legend. I had Dan Buyer crying weeping because
he loves golf, and I think he's the only person
who loves this week the way I love this week.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Who's associated with this show? Dan, what were your emotions
during that.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I was cutting onions.
Speaker 14 (50:57):
Yes, yes, because it's it's the the child portion of
it as well, like that that tiede like just that
part gets me. I feel for anybody that had to
go through that. But also, if you love this tournament
as much as Stu and I do, and I think Stu,
I assume you've been there. We haven't had conversations. I've
been fortunate enough to be there a few times myself.
(51:20):
But everyone knows the course. So when you talk about
walking up eleven Fairway, you know exactly where he is
in eleven Fairway is the start of Amen Corner. And
for as much as if you love the Masters, you
can name one, two, all the way through eighteen, but
there is something special about getting to Amen Corner. And
(51:40):
I remember the first time I was ever there. You
walk in on the property, You're like, oh there's one,
You're oh, there's nine, green, eighteen, the whole deal. When
you get to Amen Corner, it is absolutely different. And
I can't imagine what it's like without a soul around
except you know, you and your playing partners. Yeah, just
the magical story and then you add telling the story.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, when you go there, it sucks your right down
to a man corner. You're forced to just walk down
there to me here, it's real.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Yes, hey man Thompson corner.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Hey, look at you all right, Bomani Jones back to
college basketball.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
Bomani Jones joins us.
Speaker 6 (52:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is the best of Stu Gotson Company Live on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
A few poll questions to get the show started today. Taylor,
please put it on the pole at Steve got seven
ninety one X. When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico
smiling on the inside? Also, are you a bench below
the court guy?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Or no?
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Hm?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
I don't like it. It scares me.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Also put this on the pole, tailor. Is Lloy Vaught
sitting around going, hey.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
What about us? Oh?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And the other Michigan you double double machine? Yes?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Yes, what do you mean? What about us?
Speaker 6 (01:01):
Is nobody mentioning Lloyd Vaught or in that team in particular,
like that team has been mentioned, just the Fab.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Five getting all the you know praise.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
They didn't win anything, Lloyd Vaught, Terry Mills, Rameil Robinson,
Glenn Rice.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
They won a national championship, No one talks about it.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
If it was the first question on that pole.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
When Luca pulled a Hammy, was Nico smiling on the inside?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Does anybody know what Nico's doing anymore?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm smiling on the inside.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
I just told you I saw a video of him
at an airport and he's got a fly commercial these days,
and so that's not the greatest. I'm pretty sure he's
just trying to be in hiding as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Last poll here Justin Jackson going to join us, but
Monti Jones going to join us an hour number two.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You could spend a day with one group, the Fab five.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Or the starting five from last night's National Championship game.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Who you got.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Fab five currently? I'm sorry for the follow up.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So this is the modern Crently this is Fab five?
Then this is the modern day Fab five. What happened
last night? Those are five guys all came through the
transfer portal playing their first season together. It's the modern
day equivalent of the Fab five. We're never going to
see five freshmen come in at the same time and
make a run to the championship game and then lose.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We're never going to see that again.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
But you had five guys come together through the portal
from different schools playing in their first season together.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And they went on to win a national championship instead
of the Fab five since their transfers.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Can we call them the trans five? No, I don't
think we can do that.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I don't know, can we I don't think we can.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Dangerous Gape eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That
is eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox again.
Justin Jackson going to join us because Taylor's producing the show.
He's producing his show tomorrow. Willie Randolph.
Speaker 7 (02:44):
Wow, I would love Willie Randolph.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I know you did.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Anybody got a number for him?
Speaker 8 (02:49):
I do?
Speaker 9 (02:49):
Willie Randolph. I graduated with his daughter. He was the
commencement speaker at my graduation.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Gosh, I wish you hadn't told him.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Let me seriously, so, Willie Randolph, I was joking seriously
to be on the show tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Is it your thoughts last night? Dan Hurley going for.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Three national championships over the last four years.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
He still has two. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Made it into the final game three times in four years.
I'm not certain how many people like him. But the
alternative is, you know, is a coach that people from
Michigan that people find to be very boring.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I mean so Yukon has done so much winning overall
but also lately under Hurley. Yeah that I forgot that
they won back to back championships, like when they were
going for three out of four because I said this
and thank you guys for not noticing and you know,
picking up my mistakes. But I said at some point
about the Gators not repeating. I think I said the
(03:45):
last team to repeat won't be the next team to repeat. Yeah,
completely forgetting that Yukon just repeated a couple of years ago,
and so my bad for that retroactively. You know what's
crazy is last night felt like a game that Yukon
was going to steal, Yes and forever be that championship team, right,
(04:07):
the team that had the grit that found away.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But Michigan was ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Like when I said this yesterday, I regret sounding ridiculously surprised.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
When Seth Davis pig Michigan.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
It all so the level of you know that my
voice got when I said, really he picked them.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
To be fair to us.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
We were fresh off the Arizona Sweet sixteen victory. We
thought they were the best team in the country, and
we learned that they weren't.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We were drunk off of Arizona. Let's be real.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
And then then you start realizing, oh, no, Michigan has
been the best team in this tournament the entire time.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
And I remember back in two thousand and was it
six or seven, which everyone was the first one of
the Gators back to back championships and Jason Williams White
Chocolate Jason Williams was on the Miami Heat at the time,
and as a former Gator we used to chat about.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
All the time.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
And after the second round of that tournament and this
is the Gators that weren't supposed to win it that
year that played George Washington et cetera second game of
that tournament, we both looked at each other and said,
they're the best team in the tournament. Yeah, And that's
because I was watching intently, right, If I was watching
intently as closely as I was that tournament, for this tournament,
(05:17):
Michigan was so obvious.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
It was so obvious. They're huge.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
They can't like, it doesn't matter what your bigs are,
you can't really get great shots around that size. And
then they have enough guard play, enough shooting, and enough
talent around them where it's just like it's a better
version of last year's Gators.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Marrow looked like he was eight foot five out there.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, so big.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Yes, you mentioned the elevated courts or whatever, the benches
that are a little bit lower.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Vanderbilt has that right at their home arena.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I don't like it.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Yeah, well, I hate it at Vanderbilt because the benches
are on the baseline and it's just like I gotta
yell all the way over there to talk to my coach.
But that somehow, some way makes the players look like
well obviously reasons, I guess now that you think about it,
that they're on a stage and then you throw in
their height and they look even taller.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Somehow.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I was terrified for Tracy Wilson. I was anyone else?
Put it on the pole tailor where you're terrified.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
For Tracy will Wolfson.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Doesn't she do the thing every year where she takes
a picture next to the tallest player that she interviewed,
and it's just.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Laugh out loud and funny. The discrepancy.
Speaker 7 (06:21):
So Stu, you know who I feel bad for today.
I feel bad for Reid on Yukon. Yeah, because he
transferred from Michigan to Yukon and now he's been at
Michigan and Yukon now and in his four years, those
teams have won three titles. He has zero.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Just can't get it right. I mean, he just can't
the problem wherever he goes.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
He was great on the boards. I don't know if
he was the problem.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
He was so nice about his situation, and he was
like whenever he talks about he's like Noel Will to Michigan.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Love those guys.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
He had a great chance at Yukon, looked amazing, was huge,
and the Duke comeback win only to come up short.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But that seems impossible that he would be on both
those teams. They won three national championships in four years
and he hasn't won one.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Just flip his time with both teams and he'd have
three championships right now.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
And if I'm reading mikey a correctly, he is the problem.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Mikeyye doesn't care how well he played last night, doesn't
care how hard he hit the boards last night.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
He's the problem. If he's on your team, you lose.
Speaker 10 (07:27):
There you go future, Nick.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Jetan whatever.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
To further your point, Michigan was the best team all tournament.
But to a lot of people that watch college basketball,
Michigan was the best team all year, and in a
sport like March Madness, a sport like college basketball, it
does feel kind of rare to get to the end
of the season and be like, oh, the unquestioning best
team won the tournament. With how random it is to
(07:55):
a point where it does feel like an extra reason
to celebrate this Michigan team.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Just dating back to last year, for example, there's no
way anybody in the first three months of the season
would have said Florida was your national champion and then
they just got hot at the right time. This was
absolutely one of those years from start to finish, the
three losses where almost nothing, you know, just the difference
that the point differential in these games in the tournament
(08:21):
just goes to show you when they're locked in, doesn't
matter the opponent, this team has like a fifteen to
twenty point advantage.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Stu, I have a ridiculous stat here, Okay, Michigan last
night became the first team since two thousand and nine
right to beat Yukon in the sweet sixteen or later.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Wow, I mean, listen to your point about who wins
these tournaments. Dan Hurley said it it's a one game scenario.
Once you get to the NCAA tournament, you have to
win six one game scenarios. If we were playing Michigan
in a best of seven, of course you would take Michigan.
But in a one game scenario, anything could happen, and rarely,
and Hurley said this, does the best team in college
(09:01):
basketball win the national championship. You can go back to
you know, NC State winning it, Villanova beating Georgetown. Georgetown
was the best team in the country that year, but
in a one game scenario, Villanova could slow it down,
play four corners on offense, and milk the clock and
win that game.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And so you rarely get the best team winning the
NCAA tournament.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
It's odd And that's why I feel like coaching a
little bit more important in college basketball in terms of
winning the championship, yes, than it is in NBA basketball,
because over a seven game series, you put you know,
eight talented NBA, smart NBA players out there, they can
figure it out from one game to the next. In
a one game setting, your coach has to have you
(09:45):
absolutely ready, and Taylor not to go off on a
side tangent here. But the more I think about the
Michael Malone hire, the more I like it for UNC
because he's just established as somebody you have to listen to,
and when you do listen to him, he hammers home
defensive principles and wants you to play that hard all
the time. And frankly, if you're a college kid with
(10:07):
any sort of skill and you play that hard and
listen to him, you're gonna do well.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I think Taylor is starting to come around to Michael Malone.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, warming up. I wish you would go by Mike
Malone sometimes, just because it's a little it's a lot
easier to just say Mike Malone when you're talking as
much as we are.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I don't have to call him Michael, do I Because
I'm not going to call him Michael. I mean, he's
Mike Malone.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
I call him coach.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I call Mike Maloney.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Well what all the time?
Speaker 6 (10:29):
When did we stop saying coach something and start calling
them by their full names? Because I remember back in
the day, like even in college, we were encouraged to say, hey,
coach Spurrier or coach Meyer.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I think if you're a coach or a coach for life.
I mean, that's it. Yeah, you tell you think that.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Yeah, But I'm just wondering when we started using full
names on coaches, because it used to be understood it
it's cool if we just call him coach or coach
and his last name.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
I think at some point these big jay journalists started
pushing back on that, being like, hey, I went to
journal in school. I'm not calling anybody coach. And then
somebody said it disrespectful. Somebody said it to me.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Are you looking at is he?
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Somebody said it to Dion Sanders, and Dion was like,
call me coach. Yeah, well, and then it's right, yep, exactly,
coach Prime. I'm with him.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, he was specifically wanted you to call him coach Prime,
which to me is a little bit of an issue.
But in terms of calling somebody coach versus their first name,
I kind of understand that. Like, I don't think that
you're demeaning the journalist by saying, hey, call me coach.
It's just what you're used to. It's just what you
want to hear, and I'm totally fine with it. It's
not disrespectful of the person calling you coach.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I sent a text to Phil Martelli Junior, who joined
US a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Ago, and he's gonna a me more sports radio.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Well, I sent them a text. I sent it as
coach Martelli. He said, call me Phil. I said, I
will not do that, and he said, okay, because I
respect the coaches.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Once you're a coach, you're always a coach. I mean,
listen the bartender and cheers. We called him coach. Well
after he was done coaching and he was bartending. I
don't think coachman coach how about that.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I'm not gonna lie. Until this moment, I did not
know he was a coach.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But I think if you're a coach, you have earned
You've earned that. They all want to be called coach.
They do, don't they. I think, well, you think Bobby
Knight wanted to be called Bobby Get out of here.
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I think college coaches, in particular, because they're you know,
they're athletes, their pupils will call.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Them coach more often than not. It just feels right.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
And when you're moving from your players to the journalists,
I don't mind just requesting it. Like if it's an
ego thing, fine, it's not gonna hurt my ego to
call you coach, just answer my questions.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Is he One of the other things I've seen what
Michael Malone is that Mike one of the biggest complaints
of him in the NBA was it was kind of
his way or the highway correct, and some people do
think that will translate well to the college basketball world,
where you're not really having to deal You're having to
deal with the nil and recruiting, but you're not really
having to deal with the ego so much. Once they're
(13:01):
on campus.
Speaker 6 (13:02):
You pretty much only have to deal with in terms
of any sort of egos colliding is your own assistance.
And if you hire people, maybe you know the ad,
but he's not going to come tell you basketball in denounced.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
He's just going to deal with the whole program.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
So yeah, I think if you can hire assistance that
you can communicate properly with this is exactly the arena
for him because it is his way or the highway.
As it is with most college coaches. They don't take
a lot of anything from anybody and it's just their way,
and frankly, the second it shows to work, then they're
(13:36):
just going to dig in and do it even more
and it's going to double down, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
So you almost have to establish that if you're a
college coach.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
The most impressive thing about Michigan, if you asked Dan
Hurley before the game, where do you want this game played,
meaning in terms of numbers score, he would tell you
in the sixties that's the best chance I have at
beating Michigan. And it was sixty nine to sixty three,
and he's still lost. Michigan defends very well and Michigan's
best player was hurt, and they still got it done
(14:05):
and they still won the national championship.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
So is nobody saying what I think I'm about to
say because they like to be very nice to these
college players.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Hey, Alex Caraban hit a shot man, that.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Dude was I think he was zero for five before
that one that he hit to get the Duke rally going,
So he was what one for six maybe one for
five in that game, and this when he ends.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Up three for ten.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Two of those who are pretty late and they kind
of nothing.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
Situation, My guy, if you're the senior that everybody loves,
give me some moments in the last game.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I am so proud of you. I really I've never
been more attracted to you.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
He is he When when I have Michigan in the
bracket pool to win and I didn't hedge before, I'm
going into that game and I'm counting, I'm counting the money.
When Michigan's up double digits, then they cut it to four,
Yukon starts pressing. Caravan puts up a three to cut
it to yep, and my heart dropped to the floor.
(15:04):
And then I saw it clang off the rim and
I was like.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
That's God.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Even the one where the fast break where they could
have cut it back to four again, and they blew
that one because they kind of rushed the shot a
little bit when the defense was coming. They could have
slowed it down. I was like, Man, Yukon has had
so many opportunities, and that's why I said they're so
well coached. They were so ready to steal this one,
but it just wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Taylor the Sea and Caravan stands for clank. He's been
to three.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Final fours in four it it's also a cab Oh.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I don't care, that's the joke.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I mean, Jesus, I was just gonna ask you if
it knew.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But I can't believe we're passing that kid today. I
mean he went to three title games in four years
and won.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
Two of them.
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Well, they're gonna have to replace him, Yes, Justin Jackson
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
He's a twoenty seventeen National Champion ACC Player of the Year,
CONSETTSUS First Team All American, played at Carolina.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Taylor loves him. He loves Taylor, and he's doing media
work for phil as MBA. He hasn't an NBA champion
as well. I love that app. And he's doing media.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Stuff for the Field of sixty eight. What are you
doing with Field of sixty eight?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Man, I'm just filling it whenever they need me.
Speaker 11 (17:01):
And then I guess at the start of January, I
started with the ACC network too, So we're just kind
of seeing where this goes.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
I see your jersey from college hanging right behind you
on the wall. Do you have a jersey hanging anywhere
in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's somewhere up there.
Speaker 11 (17:16):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if you walk in the gym
you can find it somewhere, but I'm not totally sure
where it might be.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
When you say somewhere, you mean in the rafters of
the Dean Dome, right, I mean yeah.
Speaker 11 (17:25):
I'm pretty sure it's up there with some with some
other other jerseys that they decided to hang up.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So I'm definitely blessed for that.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Okay, Taylor, would you like to tell Justin where your
jersey is hanging in Chapel Hill?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
So I have one at Pantana Bob's, and then one
at the pizza reap three.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Be more specific, Yes, right next to the bathroom pantana.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Bob that.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's a legend, so I can see it. I can
definitely see it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I want to start with the National Championship Game, but
I feel like that would be a waste of times.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
I know Taylor wants me to ask you about Mike Maloney.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Mike Maloney, Michael alone becoming the next head coach at
North Carolina. It's a totally on North Carolina thing to do,
to go outside.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Of the family. What were your thoughts.
Speaker 11 (18:09):
I mean, I was shocked at first, but then whenever
you start to you start to break down the fact
that his daughter is at.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
School when he was fired.
Speaker 11 (18:16):
If I'm not mistaken, he did a lot of He
spent a good amount of time around the program, whether
that was at practices with the coaches, things like that.
So once I thought about that and added that up,
I wasn't too shocked. Now I am shocked because in
my opinion, I didn't think he should have been fired
from the NBA. So I was a little more shocked
from the standpoint of if he's getting back into coaching,
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I'm sure there's NBA jobs available, but look, we'll take them.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
We'll definitely take them.
Speaker 11 (18:43):
I think a lot of people are excited to kind
of see what his name brings. Obviously his coaching speaks
for itself, being an NBA champion, but kind of what
he brings and kind of what the new look of
the Tarios will look like.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Justin I kind of want to circle back to the
previous coach and obviously you want a championship with Roy.
What was the problem then with Hubert? What wasn't the
same from one coach to the next.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I mean, it's tough.
Speaker 11 (19:09):
Coach Williams, in my opinion, is, if not the best,
one of the best college basketball coaches of all time, right,
So to have somebody come in right after that, it's
going to be some really massive shoes to fill. When
you look at Coach Davis's, you know, five years, most
people would say it was a pretty successful five years
of coaching, right. And I think that's what's so difficult
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for the coaches that come through North Carolina is when
you talk about the standard, the standard's pretty high, right,
and that standard was set from not just Coach Williams,
Coach Smith, all the coaches that have come through and
the players that have come through. And so I think
the difficult part was people had this image of what,
you know, that standard of North Carolina basketball is, and
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I think at times didn't take into account the changing
landscape of college basketball as well, right, And I think
that's kind of where you saw it. And then obviously
that loss to VCU was a tough one. And I
think when that happened, I mean I've said this multiple times.
If they win, and they even go on to lose
by thirty to Illinois, I don't think we're having the
discussion of Mike Malone being the head coach, right, I
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think we're talking about what transfers are we going to
get in, what recruits are coming in, that whole sort
of thing. And so I think that's the difficult part
of it was. I think the VCU game for a
lot of people, especially in the decision making process, kind
of saw that as you know, do we make the
decision to go in a different route or do we
bring them back?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And obviously, you know they decided to go in a
different route.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
Justin when they're talking about candidates for the North Carolina job,
one of the things that always comes up is they
have to understand what it means to be a part
of the Carolina family, even if they're not a part
of that Carolina family directly. What does that Carolina family
look like to you and kind of mean to you?
Speaker 11 (20:54):
I mean, it looks different for me and probably the
majority of former players, right it looks like going back
in the summer and playing pick up. It looks like
going back for camp, playing in the camp game versus
the current players coming back for games throughout the season
and kind of feeling the love and walking through that
tunnel and feeling that that, to me is what Carolina
family is about.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
But it also goes deeper.
Speaker 11 (21:15):
Than that, right, Like I'll never forget my first time
playing against Marvin Williams in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And I had really met.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Marvin probably once or twice before playing against him, and
you know, we met up at half court during warm
ups and it was as if we had interacted a
ton before, right, And so it just goes deeper than that,
And so I think that's something that can translate. Obviously
he doesn't have a connection other than his daughter playing volleyball,
but I think it can go it can stay the
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same even with somebody new it the head.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Justin you had really high praise there for Roy Williams. Obviously,
I don't think anybody would argue with you. I'm curious
from what you've learned or what you've figured out or
knew from Michael Malone, what things that Roy did especially
well that translated to the college students at the time.
Can Michael sort of try to replicate or do you
think he has in his coaching bag if you will, well.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I mean you talk about I mean, he's a genius
when it comes to x's and o's, right, like you
talk about those Denver Nuggets teams that he coached. Obviously
he got lucky having a guy like Jokic and then
a guy like Jamal Murray kind of being the two
guys at the top. But that also goes back to
coaching as well. He was there from the beginning with
those guys, right, He put things around around them, a
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system and things like that.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Finding how good Yolkic is, right, that's a huge part of.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It, exactly.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
And nowadays if you talk about talent scouting or being
able to find good talent and the transfer portal and
things like that, you've got to have an eye for
that right. You don't have guys that are just staying
three four years like coach Williams was obviously blessed to
have and guy stayed because it was coach Williams in
North Carolina. But you don't have that necessarily now and
so you got to be able to in a you know,
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a few weeks really nowadays, you got to be able
to say, Okay, you know what, that fits what I'm
trying to do. This fits what I'm trying to do.
And I think Mike Malone did that great with Denver
and it's funny. You know, people have talked about how
he's like an old school coach, right, and how he
holds everybody accountable. That was one of the things that
coach Williams always did right. It didn't matter if it
was me the acc player of the Year my junior year,
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or if it was a walk on in practice right
that didn't do something correct. He was going to hold
whoever it was accountable because it was a bigger goal.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I think that's something.
Speaker 11 (23:30):
That obviously, you know, you got to kind of taper
back a little bit. You're not dealing with grow men,
You're dealing with kids and people trying to figure it out.
But I think that's something that can translate well to
to you know, kind of coming into this program of hey,
we've got a certain standard and a system that we're
running and there's no letdowns from that, and that kind
of falls into the Carolina way or the family that
you want to talk about.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Justin you mentioned how he's trying to find people that
fit what he wants to do. How much of it
is bringing in the right people to do what you
want to do versus adapting what you do to what
you have.
Speaker 11 (24:03):
I think it's a good mix, honestly, and that's kind
of why I think when you look at the people
that he's going to bring it around him, I think
it's important to have people that have been around the
college space for a while right have seen the differences
and the changes and the transitions that we've seen through
college basketball.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Well.
Speaker 11 (24:19):
Also, I wouldn't mind seeing an NBA guy come in
as far as player development or things like that. I
think that's really key as well. And so I think,
you know, when you talk about him as a coach,
it's going to be just as important the staff and
the people that come in around him. And it also
goes as far as you know, who are we bringing
in from the transfer portal, right like now with the
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freshman and transfer portal, what fits what he's looking for,
but also what maybe we still have there when he
comes in or things like that. So it's I think
that's going to be the big thing to see, is
that transition for him, but also the help that he
has with him through that transition.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
Justin any Carolina fans that are skeptical about the hire,
how much of that skeptic do you think comes from
what they just saw with Bill Belichick in football?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
All of it.
Speaker 11 (25:06):
I was waiting for Bill Belichick question. I mean the
tough part about where college sports is in general, right
is you have to have the money.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Period like that. That's just the way it is. And
I don't know. Once again, I'm not in any decision
making rooms. I'm not any really.
Speaker 11 (25:26):
Any any conversations when it comes to decision making for
any athletics at North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
But if you don't have the money, and you.
Speaker 11 (25:35):
Don't have the money to pay players, then you could
have a Bill Belichick in the seat and it just
might not translate, right, And so I think that's another
aspect of not only the staff that you know, Mike
Malone brings in, but also making sure that we have
the money to be able to divvy out to these
players that maybe they're wanting to go after to now
bring in the talent. Now, the coaching takes over once
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you have the talent sitting in the locker room. And
so I think that's a big part. I mean, somebody
asked me, I think it was this morning. Actually they
asked me about kind of the whole brand conversation, right,
and when you talk about the brand of these different teams,
North Carolina, Duke Kansas, everybody's taking a hit, right, The
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brands aren't the same anymore, because the number one conversation
that you're having is the money aspect. How much can
I get? You know, like where can I sign on
the dot line for this? And then we'll talk about okay,
you know what. I like that interlocking and see right
like that's that's just the reality of college sports now.
And so I think if we have that in place
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and we have good people around coach Malone. I think
his ability to coach and his ability to hold people
accountable and have a certain standard, I think we could
I think we could be right back to where we
need to be.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
It would have thought Bill Belichick would have staying on
the university.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Rewind like a year and a half. He'd be like, Wow, Billalich, Yes,
now it's just like Noll Belichick.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
So justin if I told you you could hand pick
any coach you wanted to be the next head coach
at North Carolina, anyone, and it's your decision and yours alone,
who you're going with, who's doing it better than everyone else?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Right now?
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Man, See, that's a tough that's a tough question because
now that I'm in the media space.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I have to try to be as unbiased as possible.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
It depends on it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
The guy, the guy down.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
The road at Duke is doing an unbelievable job, right
I would never say, hey, we need to go, we
need to go grab him.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Be careful their soul though.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
It's a dangerous it's a dangerous game.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Is But but when I like when when the conversations
were happening with coaches, A guy that I loved is TJ.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Alsoberg at Iowa State, Like, I love what he does there.
Speaker 11 (27:49):
Obviously you talk about Dusty Mayheck, he just won I
see the Michigan hat. He just won a national championship, right,
He's a really really good coach. Tommy Lloyd, I love
Tommy Lloyd. So there was good option and all the
names that were thrown around. And I also see from
their perspective of hey, I'm getting paid, I'm having the
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nil come in where I'm at. I can build a
program up exactly how I want it to be, and
I'm not having to come in kind of with the
circumstances that North Carolina has been in. So I can
see it from both sides. But those coaches, I mean,
I don't think you could have went wrong with any
of them. And I think, you know, the Mike Malone higher,
I don't think it's a panic or a settle by
any means. So I think it's it's exciting to have
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him in.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But those are some of the coaches I liked.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Has Michigan entered the all time best team conversation?
Speaker 11 (28:39):
Who team construction? I think it has to be in
the conversation. I will say that, wow, no big. I
mean the tough thing about the game against Yukon, Michigan
really didn't even play well and they still won a
national championship. Right, And so I think that you know,
when you talk about it, For me, the best team
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TA ever assembled is and in my mind is that
Kentucky team that we played against, that Platoon team. They
didn't even win a national championship, but that team was
loaded from one to ten. But I mean, you have
to you look at some of these I mean they
went on a streak where they beat teamed by forty,
like five or six games in a row and things
like that, So I mean they got to be I
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guess you got to put them in a conversation, but man,
they were a gauntlet. I loved Arizona, and what they
did to Arizona I think kind of solidified that they
were the best team in college basketball at that point.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Stu.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
What you might not be aware of is that me
and Justin used to play video games together and I
would use Justin as a sounding board for some of
my takes. So, Justin, I have an unpopular opinion when
it comes to March Madness that I want to run
by you. One shining moment is the most overrated tradition
in all of sports blasphemy.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
I mean, it's probably the most overrated thing for the
teams that don't win it. I will say that for
the teams, the teams that don't win it, I don't
want to hear.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
None of that.
Speaker 11 (30:11):
The year that we lost in the championship, turn it off, please.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
There were no shining moments for you, right, I'm with you.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Yeah, But the team that won it, it is something
that you've always seen and you know, you kind of
fall into that aspect and it's pretty special once they
show you at the end of it. But I mean,
it's not a bad It's not a bad take when
it comes to the teams that you know, when it
comes to Yukon walking off the floor, that's not a
terrible take.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Can I go back real quick? What was that best
team ever that you said? Which Kentucky team?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
What was that?
Speaker 11 (30:41):
I think that was my freshman year twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen.
I think they lost to Wisconsin. Yeah, Booker played tea deep,
Book played like fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I mean they had guys everywhere.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
They had the Harrison Twins, they had Cat, they had
Willy kley Stein, they had everybody.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, you're in the media game now, like you got
you understand what they're doing with one shining moment.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Right, it's just to keep you around till midnight. You
get it, right, I mean it's.
Speaker 11 (31:08):
You gotta keep you gotta keep people locked in as
as best as you can. So I definitely understand from
that perspective too.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But there are no shotting moments. Only one team as
a shining moment, is what you're saying.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
Yeah, I mean even the teams maybe that like had
crazy buzzer beaters or crazy moments in the tournament that
are at home watching it like doesn't have It's not
the same. It's not the same feeling as you being
up there on the stage watching it.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Like.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's just not you know, it doesn't connect the same.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
You play tailor and video games? Who wins more you? Taylor?
Speaker 11 (31:38):
You know what's crazy. We talked about it. I've got
two kids now and me and Vip have not played.
I mean it's been a it's been a minute at
this point, Like this was during.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
My kids will do that so lot.
Speaker 11 (31:48):
Yeah, my playing career when I would have you know,
road trips and stuff like that, and I was free,
but Zip it depended on what game. Majority of the time,
video games was kind of my my spot.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
He's being very humble, right, now, I'm certain he is.
He's being very humble right now. Whenever we would play
a shooter video game, he would have to carry me
and I was just his backpack.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Gladly.
Speaker 11 (32:12):
He was a great He was a guy you know,
you need guy got your back.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
You know what I'm saying. I just have the visuals.
Speaker 11 (32:18):
They might not ever do anything really, but they're at
least gonna have great call outs and.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
They're gonna have great communication that everywhere.
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Most of the pros have a hand eye coordination that
the rest of us don't know about.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
So it helps with video games too.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Does he still wear you at with sports takes or what?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You know?
Speaker 11 (32:35):
He there for a while, he would, he would come
in pretty hot with him.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He hasn't.
Speaker 11 (32:39):
He hasn't come with anything really here lately. I'm sure
now that you're saying that, I'm sure I'll start getting
you know, I'm sorry, I mean, and I'm.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Always down for him because I love a little back
and forth.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
So all right, justin we appreciate the time. I'd like
to do this more often if possible. So Taylor is
going to continue to bother you. Check out his work.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah, man, check out his work field of sixty eight.
We appreciate it, man, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
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Speaker 1 (33:35):
We only have a couple of minutes here. It is Tuesday,
so of course we're going to do a think about
It Thursday.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I think we're off Thursday, and so that's why we're
doing it today.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Yes, well, I mean I am so Taylor wants to
do it today. So we need the image of guys.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
You know that segment talk about It Tuesday on Hawkman
Crowder in Soleiro. This is like that, but bigger, big
and better, and forty eight hours later, they seems think
about it Thursday on a Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Welcome in. You think about it Thursday on a Tuesday. Yes,
so Stu gotts. The Islanders fired Patrick Waugh yep as
their head coach. They replaced him with Peter de Boor.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
And when you hear the name Debor, you think kayland
Boor at Alabama yep. So the think about it Thursday
is who would do better coaching the other person's sport?
Peter DeBoer coaching Alabama football, right, or Kaylan de Boor
now coaching the Islanders.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
I'll put it on the poll first. When you think
Peter de Boor, do you, of course think of Kaylan
de Boor. No, So you're asking, would Kaylin de Boor
be a better hockey coach than Peter Debor would be
a college football coach?
Speaker 7 (34:55):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Wow, I'm thinking.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I'm trying to get all my Peter de Boor knowledge.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yes, now, let's not really taking that lot and I
usually save all my thinking for Thursday.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
This is this is a difficult one. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
I'm only thinking half as hard on Thursday. Yes, so
you know, oh no, we're off. Never mind.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Well, I.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
This feels like a very clear answer here where Kaylin
de Borr is struggling with the Alabama expectations. You give
him a different sport. I'm worried about him crumbling. Yeah,
I think a hockey guy translates to coaching football.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, but a lower bar if he were coaching the Islanders,
not nearly as much pressure.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
He's not. You know, he's not replacing Nick Saban.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Listen, You're not replacing al Arbor who in the eighties
won four straight Stanley Cups with the Islanders, went to
a fifth, lost to Edmonton, and then Gretzky went on
a run. Okay, he's replacing nobody. I mean, I think
Kaylin de Boor would be a great hockey coach.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
I say this having lived in the New York market
for pretty much my whole life. There is nothing like
that Alabama job when it comes to pressure to win.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I would if I'm Kaylin Duboor. I'm trying to make
this happen.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, yes, right, As opposed to being the eye on
their coach. No one cares. I mean geez, yeah, no
we cares, right. I mean, you know whatever, Mike and
Garden City Billion Ocean Side, you know, Jimmy and Long Beach.
They're the only people that care if the Islanders are good.
Speaker 13 (36:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
So, has Taylor d Boor actually won anything?
Speaker 4 (36:29):
No?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
No, I mean Peter de Boor has gotten closed and
never actually won anything either. But I think Kaylen's been
further away from real winning than Peter.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Has he lost to the championship to Michigan.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Outside of that, because he's got a lot of Coach
of the Years in his resume, but not a lot
of championships.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Has he ever won anything? He was sixteen minutes away
from winning the whole damn thing.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
So the answer is no, because he didn't win that.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
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Speaker 1 (37:09):
So we crowned a national champion last night. Michigan wins
the national championship.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
And actually get a crown, do they?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
But we crowned one, which means I could shift my
focus over to Augusta. I'm very excited because this gets
underway tomorrow. Bomani Jones will join us at about fifteen minutes.
Thank you, iyoha, Sam. We needed that, we needed another one.
Thank you appreciate it. Is he when you think of
(37:41):
some of the great storytellers of all time in sports media,
who is second place to me?
Speaker 10 (37:49):
You got that one, well done, well done.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
I was gonna say your Finney story, It's just it
sticks in my head for life. I would say.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
The person that is used more like a verb or
and adjective is Tom Ernaldi. Yes, good guess, because yeah,
I was always wanting to be the next Tom Ronaldi,
or if I'm going to Tom Ronaldi.
Speaker 5 (38:12):
This thing by making people cry, that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
This is the best week on the sports calendar for me.
And I don't feel like is he is into it.
I'm not certain Tailor's into it because he's still focused
on Carolina and who's going to get the coaching job,
even though they gave the coaching job to Mike Maloney already,
Mike Malone. He is praying that that gets reversed somehow.
It seems like I'm on board with it, are you really?
(38:36):
I'm trying to book Tyler Hansbrough right now, psychot.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
How that, by the way, it is college basketball player
of all time.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
Don't correct yourself anymore when you say Maloney, I know.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
That, right, I know, I know so Tom Ronaldi, mikey
I want to play a game, and Dan Byer, if
you're close to a microphone, please come over.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I think you will like this, Okay, mikey A.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Tom Ronaldi was on Stegatson Company couple of years ago,
right before the Masters, and we had a great discussion
with him about the course, about the tournament, what that
place means to so many you know, kinds of people.
And I am wondering here there are only three options. Tears, goosebumps,
or I don't give a bleep. Okay, So I'm going
(39:19):
to play the sound it's like six minutes long because
Tom Ronaldi, like myself, is a great storyteller, and he
takes a minute to tell this story, but it is
worth it. And so I am asking you, Taylor, tears, goosebumps,
or I don't give a bleep. I don't want Taylor's answer.
I want mikey A's prediction.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
Taylor, I had a hard time placing him. I'm going
to give him I don't give a bleep.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Okay? How about is he goosebumps?
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Definite goosebumps?
Speaker 4 (39:49):
All right?
Speaker 1 (39:50):
How just because he likes storytelling, right, good storytelling, He's going.
Speaker 9 (39:54):
To appreciate that the big j of the journalism of
it all.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Okay, born out Ricardo, what do you think?
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Uh he doesn't mention baseball, I'm gonna say, doesn't.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
How about Iowa Sam?
Speaker 9 (40:10):
Iowa Sam is gonna be uh not goosebumps?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Okay, not listening right, doesn't care? Ep Jason is he here?
Speaker 7 (40:19):
He's not here?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Okay, so we don't care about him today? And how
about Dan Bayern? Because I hand Buyer's full on tears weeping, yes,
fully weeping.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It's a special place, it's a special week, it's a
special tournament. And here's just one example of why. This
is me with Tom Ronaldi a couple of years ago.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
But a weird game for ten million dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:42):
Okay, Tom, this is such an odd game, but I
have to ask it.
Speaker 10 (40:46):
It's you, it's Scott van Pelt, and of course it's
Jim Nance.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Ten million dollars goes to the person with the coolest
story involving Augusta.
Speaker 10 (40:56):
Tom Ronaldi is pulling out what story?
Speaker 8 (40:59):
So? I had a chance to play Augusta National a
few times, but the last time I played, I was
invited by a member. He had invited me and two others.
We had the date. We were going to come in,
stay at the cabin overnight. We were going to play
(41:20):
the afternoon before, have dinner, get up the next morning,
play again, and leave. The member is just a wonderful,
wonderful guy. And a week before Stude, the member calls
me and says, one of the other members of the
foursome can't make it. You can bring anyone you want.
Speaker 5 (41:45):
Wow.
Speaker 8 (41:47):
So I call my brother and he could not get
out of a work obligation. My brother works for the
Federal Reserve and he had this he had to go
to Washington and he could not get out of it.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
He should.
Speaker 8 (42:08):
The person I called Stu is a great friend of mine, Kevin,
who I've known for more than twenty five years at
that point, without getting into all the details, he he'd
suffered a terrible, terrible loss, he'd lost an infant child,
(42:30):
and he loves golf, he loves the Masters. And I
called the member and I said to the member, this
is the person that I'm that I'm I'd like to invite,
but I want you to know why, because he's been
through the most difficult thing any person can go through,
(42:53):
and he's found a way to continue to keep his
family together, to be a great father to his other children,
to be a great husband. He's shown so much heart
through so much pain. And we're playing and there's a
moment to where Kevin is out walking in front of
(43:19):
myself and the member on eleven and he's just sort
of strolling and looking around. He's distanced from the caddy.
He's just walking down eleven fair Way by himself. And
the member who I guarantee has taken dozens and dozens
(43:42):
and dozens of people in to the gates down Magnolia
Lane to stay in a cabin, to share this magical
place and experience. You would think he had never done
it before. And he stopped me and he put his
hand on my shoulder and he gestured toward my friend
(44:03):
out fifty sixty yards in front of us, and he
said quietly, that's augusta God. And I choked up, like
I can't even tell you about what that meant to me.
(44:25):
That the member who's such a wonderful, wonderful guy, had
the generosity of heart and spirit, had the perspectives to
he's been a member there for a long time. Again,
he shared this experience with so many people, but the
fact that he gave me this additional opportunity. This was
the person I chose, and it meant that much to him,
(44:50):
not to me, to him that he would stop me
and say, look at that, look at what he's feeling,
look at how he's appreciating it, whatever he's thinking through
remembering feeling. That's Augusta, that's why you come here, And
to me, to the day I die, I will never
(45:14):
ever forget that moment with that member and my friend
out in.
Speaker 10 (45:20):
Front of us and the member.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I'm certain Tom is saying, hey, just leave him alone,
let him enjoy the moment, let him take it all in, right,
That's what he was there, just peace.
Speaker 8 (45:29):
He just said, I want you to just hang back
for a minute. Just look at him, look at him,
what he's what he's experiencing right now. That's the gift
to this place, right. And you know, did my friend
play particularly well? No? Did it matter to the member zero.
(45:53):
The only thing that mattered to that member was that
this man had gone through terrible loss and this day,
this drive down Magnolia Lane, staying in the cabin, having dinner,
(46:14):
getting up the next morning, all of it. He knew
we are going to give this man a gift of
a day. He deserves it. I don't even know him.
He's a friend of yours, you're a friend of mine,
and this place is in some small way for this
(46:36):
period of time. Dude, going to let him heal, going
to let his heart heal. And I'll tell you my
friend talks to me about that thirty hours, right, multiple
(46:58):
times a year, multuple times a year. Love it, I
have Ay, that's my story about Augusta.
Speaker 10 (47:05):
You won the ten million dollars the second you opened
your mouth, right, the second and the second.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
You open your mouth, you won the ten million dollars.
A gay, all right, Taylor, So let's get your real
answer here. Tears because I was crying. Wait wait, wait, wait,
and I was there for it. Is crying.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Laughing also an option, not because I'm insensitive, but I'll
explain later.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Okay, Yes, I don't care how you cry. I mean,
you can cry because you're laughing at me. You can
cry because it was an emotional story told by one
of the great storytellers second place to me in the
history of sports media.
Speaker 10 (47:38):
Dude could spin a yard.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
I mean, he's so good it's unbelievable. Oh, my god,
is he good?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
H Taylor tears, goosebumps or I don't give up bleep?
Speaker 7 (47:48):
So I was on the fence until we got this.
Speaker 13 (47:52):
Augusta one more time, ricardoff, that's Augusta.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah the pause, Yeah, let me hear it one more
time so I can.
Speaker 13 (48:00):
That's Agusta.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
And I know what you're trying to do, sir. You're
trying to pigeonhole me to say something bad about Tom
or Nole. I dare you you want me to say
that he only has one note and he's gonna tell
that same exact story. Yeah, forty different ways.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
I would never I would never even consider it. That
thought never even crossed my mind.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
All right, So goosebumps, Yeah, goosebumps, bumps. Hold on a second,
let's go to board out, Ricardo. I have a feeling
he didn't give a bleep.
Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yeah, I'm watching.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
I got you pegged.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Let's go to uh Iowa, Sam, I'm pretty certain he's
also watching Paralta.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
Go ahead, Iowa, Sam. Well, I'm looking at my arms.
Speaker 5 (48:42):
I see a few small little I guess they'd be goosebumps.
Speaker 4 (48:45):
So that's Agusta, baby, goosebumps that's a gust all right.
That means you're alive.
Speaker 13 (48:49):
I'm alive. That's for the people in the back.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yes, I'm gonna go to Dan. Last year, Israel Gutierrez
was laughing. He was snorting during it. He was disrespecting,
and he's a storyteller.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
I mean, all right.
Speaker 6 (49:03):
So my first reaction, literally when I heard Ronaldi's voice,
immediate goosebumps before the stage. Just like that, they just
appeared on my arms with a sound that said, here's
the goose bumps.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
That's that's what happens when you got goosebumps.
Speaker 5 (49:17):
Yet and then they immediately just hid under my skin.
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 6 (49:22):
Once he said that's Augusta, because it wasn't even a
Ronaldi thing. It was this member. It is a little
full of himself and the course, okay, like the man
lost a child.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
I'm pretty sure he would have been emotional, and.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Regardless of the setting, this just happens to be a
very pretty one in which he gets to play golf.
Speaker 4 (49:42):
It's the healing powers of Augusta. Are you listening to Tom?
Speaker 3 (49:45):
That's like the warners of Lake Minnetonka.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
Augusta.
Speaker 13 (49:49):
That's Augusta thank you.
Speaker 6 (49:51):
And then what brought out the tears was when I
was crying, laughing at your reactions. Crying, Well you should
if you would have just cut out everything else and
just put Stu Gott's's noises in there.
Speaker 5 (50:05):
They're the number of things.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
You could have been doing, and it's not always listening
to Tom Ronaldy talk about golf.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
In Magnolia Lane. So I got ab in. Oh.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
My answer is I felt all the things except for
the item Giva believe I did not feel that whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
But you felt the full range of emotions there, including laughter.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
Well done, well worth the six minutes I have, go ahead, Taylor.
Speaker 7 (50:28):
Some people might say that the only thing they felt
was that six and a half minutes probably could have
been two and a half minutes, but it could have
been not me, and again not me.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
I don't think it. It's a dangerous game. It's Tom Rnaldi, Okay,
He's a legend. I had Dan Buyer crying weeping because
he loves golf, and I think he's the only person
who loves this week the way I love this week.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Who's associated with this show? Dan, what were your emotions
during that.
Speaker 5 (50:55):
I was cutting onions.
Speaker 14 (50:57):
Yes, yes, because it's it's the the child portion of
it as well, like that that tiede like just that
part gets me. I feel for anybody that had to
go through that. But also, if you love this tournament
as much as Stu and I do, and I think Stu,
I assume you've been there. We haven't had conversations. I've
been fortunate enough to be there a few times myself.
(51:20):
But everyone knows the course. So when you talk about
walking up eleven Fairway, you know exactly where he is
in eleven Fairway is the start of Amen Corner. And
for as much as if you love the Masters, you
can name one, two, all the way through eighteen, but
there is something special about getting to Amen Corner. And
(51:40):
I remember the first time I was ever there. You
walk in on the property, You're like, oh there's one,
You're oh, there's nine, green, eighteen, the whole deal. When
you get to Amen Corner, it is absolutely different. And
I can't imagine what it's like without a soul around
except you know, you and your playing partners. Yeah, just
the magical story and then you add telling the story.
Speaker 5 (52:01):
My goodness.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, when you go there, it sucks your right down
to a man corner. You're forced to just walk down
there to me here, it's real.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Yes, hey man Thompson corner.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
Hey, look at you all right, Bomani Jones back to
college basketball.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
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